July 17, 2025 • 54 mins
What if living in full truth is the most valuable currency you hold?
In this intimate and expansive conversation, Sabrina Riley joins Elizabeth Ralph on The Spiritual Investor podcast to explore how radical self-honesty, inner alignment, and embodied frequency are redefining what it means to be wealthy and to be free.
Sabrina shares the deeper layers of her own evolution: leaving behind a finance career, navigating identity and self-worth, and learning how to receive both money and love without needing to suffer for it. Together, they explore the tension between expression and ego, between clarity and control, and how true impact isn’t something you perform, it’s something you become.
This is an episode about embodiment, integrity, and frequency. About stepping into the version of you who doesn’t need to prove or perform, but who simply is. It’s also a powerful reminder that we don’t need to scream who we are for the world to change. We just need to live it.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Thank you so much.
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going to shift your world.
I guess let's just start thisout as we're starting it out,
which is this is Sabrina.
She's amazing.
She's one of everyone'sfavorites, although everyone in
the mastermind has their ownkind of deal and everything, but
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she's definitely a shining lightin the spiritual investor
mastermind.
And I mean, just to even haveher on and be able to be myself,
be in her energy, plus sort ofhave you guys get to know her as
well.
It's just absolutely magical.
So one of the things that Iasked her when we first came on,
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and there's really no start andstop to this, I guess, because
this podcast is a conversation.
It's just a real conversation.
When I asked her, because shesaid she's excited, I said, if
you could bottle thatexcitement, what would that be?
So what
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
would it be?
I don't know, what really comesup for me is just the fact that
I kind of manifested and claimedthis quite a while ago.
When I first started getting toknow your podcast and getting to
know your world a little bit, Iwas like, I'm going to be in
Elizabeth's world.
(01:46):
I'm going to be on this podcast.
So I've been thinking about thisfor like a year.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
Really?
That is so amazing.
Well, that's so amazing on somany levels.
I think for me, I think for you,uh, cause like when you think
about something for a year andit comes to fruition, it's like,
there's just such like beautifulvalidation for that, you know?
And I think that's inspiring forpeople because everyone has that
thing that they've been thinkingabout.
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And so thank you for sharingthat.
SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
Yeah.
So, um, Is, is that sort of, soyou, you kind of meandered your
way in.
So you sort of came into thepodcast and then did you come in
through the SI club first or didyou just get, you did and you
went, then you went to themastermind, right?
That's right.
Because you, that's right.
You were incredible.
My team fell in love withSabrina, by the way, as soon as
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she came in, because one thing Iwill say about you and I, I want
to just like, I want to hearyour version of this, but I also
want to make something verydistinct about to people that I
see about you that I guess thisis also maybe a reflection back,
which is one of the mostsuccessful, one of the most
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dominant traits that I see invery successful people is that
when they take something on,they go vertical.
They just, they live it.
They just go in it.
Right.
And so I would say it's anability, you know, because it is
like, you know, we choose whatwe focus on.
And ever since you came into theclub, like you have been so
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present and you have been sothere.
And I also think that there's acertain level of openness and
vulnerability that's requiredfor someone to go vertical.
And it says a lot about your theamount of confidence that you
have.
within yourself.
And so I just want to say that Iappreciate that because of
course, you've been magnifiedeven more inside the mastermind,
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which is so fun for us all.
So I just want to preface that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:49):
Thank you.
I appreciate that so much morethan you know.
The version of me that's capableof that has really been
developing over the past twoyears.
I don't know exactly how muchyou know about my story, but it
was actually two years ago lastweek, the night that I realized
I was a trans woman.
And I weirdly realized a lot ofthings very quickly.
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And one of those things was Iwas socialized as a man, so I
had a lot of the confidence andwilling to speak up and things
just already a little bit moregiven to me, I guess, that
sometimes women don't have.
And I was like, I have thechance to be a really powerful
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voice and I have the chance togive other people permission to
be vulnerable and authentic andwhatever that is.
And so it's really been like avery intentional part of this
journey.
SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
God, that is so wonderful.
You know, I never even thoughtof that.
You kind of have the best ofboth worlds, don't you?
I love it.
And you worked in finance aswell, which, you know, that's, I
probably should have said thatat the beginning.
So like you have all of thisstuff that you were able to
bring forward.
(05:07):
And speaking of that, can you goa little bit deeper for us so
that we can understand what doyou want to bring forward?
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah.
Weirdly enough, I was a littlebit nervous for the podcast
because I haven't had as muchclarity recently as I wanted.
When I left my finance job inApril, I thought a lot of things
were going to drop in.
I thought I already understood,like, what am I doing?
What's the message?
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All of these things.
And then I kind of realized Ididn't, and it was really
uncomfortable.
And so much has happened throughthe mastermind, actually, with
you talking about things Like,you know, not not holding on to
certain identities, or just likegoing beyond, you know, who you
think you currently are.
And I realized that it's, it'sall about freedom.
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And it's actually been aboutfreedom.
Since I was 15.
I had this night where I hadthis conversation with my dad.
And I don't remember the exactwords he used.
But I ultimately realized he wassaying that he didn't believe in
himself.
And it kind of shattered myworld.
And I realized a bunch of peoplearound me didn't believe in
themselves.
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And I was like, I don't knowwhat was in me at 15 that I was
like, I'm not going to live thatway.
I'm not going to settle.
I'm not just going to like, Iguess, play the game or just do
whatever I'm told I'm supposedto do.
I want to have a really amazinglife and I want to feel truly
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free.
And so a lot of my work isexactly that.
And kind of in a business senseis where I've been focusing.
It's like, how can moreentrepreneurs do things they
really love and just be free?
I
SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
love it.
Well, it's kind of like...
you are emulating what you aredoing because I would say that's
kind of, that's exactly whatyou're doing right now.
I mean, you're learning how tocall in more money.
You're becoming more open tomoney.
You're stepping into thechallenging things.
You're expanding money throughinvesting.
You're becoming more of who youare.
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And that's really a lot of thedeep work that I've seen you do.
And I also want to just revealto people that, you know,
Sabrina doesn't just come intothe group with all the, oh, this
is what I had such a wonderfulday yesterday.
Like when I say that Sabrinagoes vertical, like she comes in
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with a, oh my God, like I don'teven know how I'm going to get
through today kind of thing.
Like, or she's, you know, she,she brings who she is and, And,
you know, we always talk aboutlike money and freedom.
And of course, like, you know,we all want just, we all want to
have so much money that we don'teven have to think about money
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because that feels like freedom.
And while that is true, truefreedom is being able to show up
as you are and you do that sowell already.
And so it's not surprising thatyou want to merge that and sort
of bring that into business.
And like we started this with,Yeah.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
And it's weird because I even struggle with it
sometimes.
But it's funny that you talkabout that, that showing up
vulnerably and not alwaysshowing up with just all the
good or like the, I guess Ithink of that almost as like a
mask, like pretendingeverything's fine, even though,
you know, obviously like lifehappens.
I literally just had that kindof morning.
I was actually like all over theplace.
(09:04):
I just started my own podcastand it didn't upload correctly.
And I was really not having Andit was only like 45 minutes ago,
I was like, how you talk all thetime about standards, especially
in the mastermind.
I was like, I've got to getmyself right, not in a way of
like, I've got to perform andI've got to be like...
(09:26):
100%, you know, something forthis podcast, but in a way of
like, I need to show up with myfull self, like I need to be
able to show up with presence.
And I don't want all of thesethings this morning that
distracted me.
So I literally like took moretime for myself before I jumped
on here with you, because I justknew that I wasn't willing to
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show up with the version of methat was showing up earlier this
morning.
SPEAKER_01 (09:54):
Oh my God.
I am so glad that you broughtthis up because you, of course
you have tapped into somethingthat is, I think really, really
on the forefront with people,because for me, what you just
described is true empowermentand true.
And there's only one thing,there's only one frequency and
it's love.
And then we label it and we sortof, we're always trying to use
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these other frequencies to getback to love.
So empowerment at the level thatyou just described, which is you
are managing your own frequencyso that you can show up in a way
that is open and available toothers.
So this is the opposite of ego,right?
What we're seeing a lot now iswe're seeing this, like, I'll
say empowerment or authenticityout there where people are like,
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I need to speak my truth.
Well, it's not that you don'tneed to speak your truth, but if
you're speaking your truth andyou're being an asshole and
you're hurting someone else,that is not empowerment.
Empowerment is what Sabrina isshowing you now.
Empowerment is managing your ownfucking frequency based on a
higher standard of who you knowyou want to be and then show up.
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And you know what?
You're still going to have theshit show out here, but you at
that frequency will be able toweather the shit show.
And that's the key here isbecause everybody's trying to
fix the shit show.
And I'm like, but it's notreally a shit show if you're
willing to do what Sabrina justsaid, which is internal
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empowerment.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
Yeah.
It's just the universe, likemirroring things back to us, or,
I mean, I guess we really arethe universe.
We are source.
So we're sort of doing it toourselves.
It's like me saying like, youneed to see this this morning.
You need to work through thisthis morning.
And, and yeah, it's not, it'snot bad.
It's literally just us teachingourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (11:42):
It is, you know, and I'm going through a lot of this
stuff now too.
Like I'm like creating theselittle mini bombs around me and
I'm like, but I'm trying, youknow, but the reality is, is
that I am bumping up against mycapacity left and right right
now.
So I am creating bombs, but itdoesn't really matter.
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What matters is how am I goingto show up for it?
Right.
Um, And I think that we have toget to a certain level of like
the shifts within us that allowus to show up.
And so I would love to hear fromyou.
And I think this would help thelisteners as well, because we're
always looking for that.
(12:23):
Well, what changed?
Well, what shifted?
Well, what, where's that pivotpoint, you know?
And so it doesn't really matterwhether it's in the mastermind,
outside of the mastermind orboth or whatever.
If you were to think of, well,Like a pivot point that's
happened probably within thelast, let's say, three to six
months.
What would that be?
SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Definitely both inside and outside of the
mastermind.
But coming back to that identityand authenticity thing, you
probably don't realize how muchyou challenged me with that
because I...
Thank you so much.
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like this is who I am and I'mnot willing to, to like see
myself any other way.
And, and it was stopping me.
And, and I've started to realizethat I don't necessarily need to
like always talk about thatidentity or I don't, or I don't
need to say this is exactly whatmy work is, or this is exactly
what it's going to be.
(13:37):
And so that challenged me veryhard.
That, that was, that was like areally weird edge that I had
where I like, again, knew thatmaybe there was some good to the
way that I was showing up, butyou were also still like over
here challenging me in a bigway.
And it really took me like maybealmost a month.
(13:57):
I think it's already been a fewweeks since you started bringing
that up in the mastermind tolike really start to realize the
beauty of, or even like thefreedom of not feeling like I
have to show up a certain wayand just kind of seeing where
everything goes.
SPEAKER_01 (14:14):
Oh, I love that.
And I remember, I remember theconversation.
I think, I think it was part of,we had that conversation in one
of the, the, the live calls,didn't we?
Where, yeah, I remember thatwhere it was like, we had this
version of self-expression wherewe feel like we need to tell
people who we are.
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And then we have this version ofself-expression where they are
decide who we are.
And when they decide who we are,and it's that powerful version,
that's where the expansionfactor kicks in.
Because when I've decided whoyou are, I'm carrying you within
me.
SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
And
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
that is the merging of us.
And when I go out there, I can'twait until I get to talk about
you.
And I get to say, oh, my God,guess what?
This is like Sabrina on thepodcast.
This is what she does.
Right.
But if you are telling me whoyou are, then it's going through
my filter system, which I havebrokenness and conditioning to.
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We all do.
So I'm only getting the parts ofyou that I can take.
And it's actually like, it's notserving us either, right?
And so I think our opening andyou are teaching us this in this
very moment, which is whensomeone else tells you who you
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are and it resonates, you'rethere.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
And
SPEAKER_01 (15:39):
that's what we're going for.
And we're creating the space forthat rather than trying to tell
someone, I'm this, I'm this, I'mthis.
Because when I don't tellsomeone who I am, they're
curious and curiosity is adrawing into the void.
It's an invite.
Right.
(15:59):
But when I'm like in somebody'sface and blah, blah, blah,
they're not curious.
They're like, and I think I lovethat you brought this up.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Because I think we're all goingthrough it.
Myself included.
We're all going through it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
It's a huge pivot point for you.
SPEAKER_00 (16:16):
And honestly, one of the hard things in conjunction
with that is the receiving.
I have been struggling to, whenI hear things like what you've
said about me, to just sit withthat and to realize, yeah, this
is who I am now.
Because in many ways, comingback to that 15-year-old version
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of me that I mentioned thatrealized things and reality was
shattered, I really started todream in a big way.
about who I could become and Ikind of weirdly fulfilled this
vow to myself that I made at 15very recently I'm so much of who
I intended to become and I'm 30I turned 30 in April so it's
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like still blowing my mind notthat time or the age has to
matter but it's still blowing mymind and I'm still trying to to
like come to the realizationthat like this is who I am right
now um and that I could even bethat much more powerful
tomorrow.
So I'm receiving that a lotbetter in this moment than I
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might have even a couple ofweeks ago.
But but that's been reallydifficult, too.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
God, I'm so glad you brought up the receiving part.
It is it is it's it's a.
It's quite challenging becausereceiving is basically just re
is like retaking in the form ofus that we perhaps don't want to
see.
Mm
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
And who wants to do that?
Right.
It's like, don't feed me choppedliver.
Right.
I came here for a filet andyou're giving me chopped liver
and you're expecting me to beokay with this.
Right.
You brought something into thespace and I, cause you, you, you
have a wisdom about you.
You've probably heard thatbefore.
You have a wisdom.
You're like, Oh my God.
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I was like, I could have met youon the streets in India or
something, you know?
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (18:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
You brought something into the space that
came up for me.
And this is really, in someways, it's like me learning, me
asking you to reflect back tome, but at the same time, hoping
that this kind of resonates withother people as well in their
life, which is, so when I saidthose things, um, which were,
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see, it's like kudos for youbecause that could have been
polarizing for you and you couldhave been like, oh my God, get
up and run away, right?
But you didn't.
When I said those things, sobecause I am saying things
without intention and becauseI'm saying things to
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authentically provide and lovesomeone, I don't have fear when
I say those things.
What I've noticed is thatbecause I have one relationship
in my life in particular whereI'm kind of trying to like make
things better for this person.
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I'm trying to orchestrate it.
Let me make this world betterfor this person.
And what I find is I keep likerunning into walls.
So I'm thinking, OK, I'm makingthis world better.
But yet a lot of times I amshowing up inauthentically
because I'm kind of hiding whatI really want to say because I'm
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doing it for the benefit ofthem.
But ultimately, that's notbenefiting them.
So there's this line betweenlike.
saying something from a place oflove, but also sometimes not
saying something.
And that is love.
So I would just love to hearyour take on that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:04):
Yeah, honestly, it's so interesting because I just
had coffee with a friendyesterday, and the way he put
this was so incredible.
At one point, he was going toshare something slightly
difficult with me, and he waslike, if you don't mind, I'm
just going to drop a pebble inyour experience.
And however that ripples orwhatever that does, like...
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you can take it or leave itbasically in a very loving way.
And that's almost what I feellike you do in, in the podcast
and in the mastermind and in thecommunity is, is it just feels
like you, you like drop theselittle pebbles that you ripple
out and have more of an effect.
Usually later on, we don't, wedon't even always realize like
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how much what you said isaffecting us in that moment, but
it, it feels very, very, I getwhat you're saying, that it's
not intentional.
You're not purposefully sayingcertain words, but it almost
feels really skillful at thesame time, if that makes any
sense.
I can tell you had to show upwith a lot of intention to be
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able to let the right words comethrough you, I guess.
SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
Thank you for talking about this and
explaining this, because asyou're saying this, I'm trying
to think, because I...
When I'm saying these things, Ifeel like my arms are wide and
I'm pulling in the energy ofother people.
So I actually don't even feellike I'm.
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I feel like I'm kind of sayingit to myself and everyone.
I think that's the difference.
I think, you know, because if Ifeel like I'm saying it to
someone else only, then I wouldbe judging.
SPEAKER_02 (21:50):
If
SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
I don't also include that, then there's a comparison,
which means there's a judgment,which means there is a lack of
oneness.
And so what it's doing, and thisreflection back is helping me
sort of raise my...
It's not that I want to changeit, but our standards keep
changing based on our reflectionback.
(22:12):
And so if I'm in a situationwhere I don't also see that in
myself, then perhaps...
it might feel authentic, butmaybe it's not.
Do you get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (22:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love, I love it.
It's, it's, it's so cool to beable to be at this place of like
questioning things, but notalways needing the answer right
away.
I feel like that makes, makesthe adventure so much more fun
because it's not like, Oh myGod, I, I, I really, you know,
that kind of rocked me and likehaving a problem with it.
It's just, Oh, that'sinteresting.
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Like I'm going to reflect onthat.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think that there is alevel of when we don't have to
always be right, there is a lotof freedom.
And I'm looking at that in mylife.
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I'm looking at areas in my lifewhere I'm like, where do I
almost know too much freedom?
that i need to unknow becauselike if i don't unknow then i'm
blocking and it doesn't matterwhat i know or don't know what
matters is that i'm not willingto unknow and so i am looking at
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ways i'm like almost likeobserving myself in terms of
that in order to um unlockdifferent things and i'm also
looking at what's challengingyou know, as well.
And I think, you know, when wetalk about this with money, you
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know, we are just effectivelymoney conduits.
You know, we're out here tradingenergetic currency for whatever
form of abundance, right?
I feel like this is only, it'sgetting more and more so now, is
now that people are using,they're like basically like
self-expressing who they areLike we just talked about like
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the business for you and they'reexchanging that energetic
currency of really, truly whothey are for money, you know?
And I think like probably one ofthe most classic cases is, do
you know that Indian spiritualguru named Amma?
Do you remember her?
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
think so.
SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Anyway, so she tours all over the world and she gives
hugs and it is just lines andlines and lines of people out
the door.
And so she just has thisresonance where it's like this
energy that she's able to emitfor people coming on stage.
I mean, people wait likethroughout the night to give her
a hug and go up there and you dothat.
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And so it's like if someone everasked her, is that a good
business idea?
I mean, like...
That would not, but it'sphenomenal.
Or even you look at AbrahamHicks who, what, 30 years ago
just basically started puttingpeople on stage and asking them
questions, right?
So I love that you are, I feellike, on the journey of helping
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people get there because I dobelieve that we're getting
closer and closer and closer toa future where not only will the
wealth be in the hands of thosewho are conscious, right?
Cause that is, that's the realpivot shift.
People will be trading trulylike who they are for whatever
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form of abundance.
What, what is your thought onthat?
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Honestly, I think about this so often.
And I think you know from themastermind I've talked about
wanting to make big change inthe world, but I've been kind of
vague about it.
And I really had to...
I think I mentioned it a littlebit last week.
I really had to work on that.
And I had to work on allowingmyself to dream a little bit
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bigger and have more specificdesires.
And I genuinely think that...
Conscious business and consciouswealth is going to change the
world.
I mean, it literally has to.
And it's not that I thinkthere's not other ways of doing
it, too.
But that's one of the reasonswhy I'm so focused on working
with entrepreneurs, because I'mthinking.
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Someone like you is a greatexample.
Like you're going to put outreally impactful work in the
world.
You're going to pay the peoplethat worked for you really well.
You're going to treat themreally well.
You're going to allow them to bemore of themselves.
You're going to help them grow.
Like that's just such adifferent ecosystem than so much
of what we know work to be rightnow.
(26:52):
And so, yeah, it's like, likethis, this whole conversation is
close to my heart.
Like, I think, I think itreally, I think, like you said,
it's already changed.
And I think it's also changingat a pace that we can't really
comprehend.
Like, I actually think a lotabout human design when I talk
about this and some of the othermodalities that suggest that
2025 was already a massive shiftand like 2027 and some of these.
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Like, I think we're I thinkwe're here.
I think it's happening now.
I think in some ways it feelsweird or it looks weird because
especially in the US, there's somuch happening.
But I think there's so muchhappening because it's making
space for So I think we'reliterally right on the cusp of
like a completely different wayof life and way of business and
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all of these things.
And I think we have no idea thatmaybe even two years from now,
it's not going to look anythinglike it does right now.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
No, it's not.
And you're exactly right that itis already changing.
I mean, you know, it is justrecently where it has shifted
that smaller teams actually havea stark advantage.
Why?
Because of AI, right?
And you can change and you canturn and you can pivot and do
things, right?
Another thing that I think haschanged in the industry, and
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this comes from, you know,talking to some friends of mine
who are just really just spot onwith just marketing and stuff.
is that just even social mediaand the way that we're talking
to people or not talking topeople, I would say it's been
like that in the past.
Seeing that so much is goingmore sort of like in the groups,
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you know, so like basicallyhaving people join groups and
then There's a shocking amountof value that's going on inside
groups.
Not to say it's not going outthere on social, but what I find
is that sometimes people stay inthe hamster wheel if they're
just trying to learn from socialbecause you're getting the
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crumbs.
You're getting the look here,look there, which I don't know
how much of that is reallydistillable.
Versus if you take that extrastep, like you did, like go
vertical, get in the group, yougot to get into a group that's,
that's really going to blow youaway though, is that with
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values.
I think the standards are sohigh.
Right.
And so I'm always looking tomyself, right?
Like, Oh, like if it's notblowing me away, it's not
blowing them away and viceversa.
Right.
And I think,
SPEAKER_02 (29:28):
yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:29):
But you know what's funny and what I'm trying to
catch up with is it's so hard toexplain too, because I think
it's changing so fast.
Like even the mastermind thistime, I've told you guys, it's
so different.
It's like we've had greatmasterminds, but this one is so
different, right?
I mean, I don't know.
What is your experience of themastermind?
Because I don't even know that Ican describe.
(29:50):
I think I do a poor job of itreally.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:55):
I don't know.
I think, I think in a weird way,it's one of those things that's
hard to describe, but I'll justsay it just, I think it's, I
think it's the way that, thatcoming back to the way that you
challenge us.
I think one of the best ways todescribe it is you just
challenge us to take massiveleaps in like who we are and how
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we show up in the world.
SPEAKER_02 (30:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
And I feel like there's a lot of groups you can
go in where, yes, you're stillgetting a lot out of it, but
it's kind of like how you alsotalk about like getting on your
yoga mat and then like feelingreally good afterwards.
Like I don't feel that from themastermind.
I don't feel this.
Like every time I get off acall, I feel really good.
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Or I necessarily feel like theold identity is validated.
I feel more challenged to likemake a big leap or, or to move
past an edge.
And so I feel like it's, itfeels like the mastermind is
like, we're really doing thework and that's not to compare
in a way or like suggest thatother people aren't.
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But I think sometimes we we showup in ways where we create
containers where we're justgetting we're just nudging like
slightly forward.
And that's OK, too.
But I feel like your mastermindis like, let's just throw it all
out the window and let's let'slet's like find find new
versions and find new ways likelike let's let's let's just get
after it because because whynot?
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Thank you so much for thisreflection back, because I Um,
what you, first of all, I'm soglad that that's your
experience.
Like I, I can, I could not bemore grateful in this moment
because I feel like, I feel likeeveryone who comes into the
mastermind, like, and we do usethat very first call just to get
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to know each other and likeshoot the shit.
Okay.
This is what are you doing inlife?
And you know, I feel like I fallin love with everyone in the
mastermind in the beginning andyou are, I'm even feeling
emotional about it because it's,Like you're helping me see that,
that that is part of it is thatI do.
And I've never realized that.
And I think what it does too ishearing you describe it or is
(32:15):
showing me where I show up inthe mastermind.
What you're describing in themastermind is how I live my
life.
And when we are theself-expression in our work of
who we are in life, then there'sno difference, right?
(32:35):
But it's showing me that whenI'm in the areas of my life that
I'm not that.
Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (32:41):
I also need to share with you, like, sure, I do see
where there's different levels,right?
Like, I do see where you do showup in the mastermind, maybe even
more so.
But I know for sure that youalso show up that way in the
other spaces, including thepodcast.
Like you said, like that's justwho you are.
Because when I first startedlistening to the podcast, I
(33:05):
think it was like a year and ahalf ago or something like that.
I actually put it down for acouple months because I was
like, I don't really understandthis.
I don't feel super comfortablewith this.
Like you say very challengingthings, not just when someone's
like, On the call, like reallyclose with you, like you really
challenge everybody in everyspace that you have and in the
(33:29):
best way.
And so, yeah, like I even had alittle bit of trouble with the
podcast at one point because Iwas like, I don't know that I
want to feel these
SPEAKER_01 (33:39):
things.
I love that.
I love that you're saying that.
No one could give me more value.
And I feel like I'm feeling veryselfish because I'm like, I
didn't mean to make this aboutme, right?
No one could give me more valuethan you're giving me right now,
which is like having a realconversation with how this is
shifting you.
Because I can't read the labelfrom outside the jar, right?
(34:02):
I do hear, I hear this a lotwhere people, they say, I didn't
totally understand what you weresaying.
but I knew that I needed to keeplistening.
But then it finally clicked andmy life has shifted.
I hear that.
(34:24):
So I think you're saying that,which what it does is it makes
me actually do nothing.
Like do nothing different thanwhat I'm doing, right?
I had someone the other day sayto me that I have my own
language, right?
that I kind of like speak adifferent language, which I
don't know that.
(34:46):
And she was like, well, what ifpeople don't understand the
language that you're using?
And I'm like, well, first ofall, how do we know that?
We're only in here.
Secondly, I guess if they don'tunderstand it, they'll go away.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
Yeah.
I mean, in many ways, Isometimes...
Yeah.
(35:26):
I don't necessarily thinkthere's anything wrong with
that.
It kind of almost just feelslike you're just like
transmitting what we need tohear.
And maybe it's not always meantto be entirely understood.
Maybe sometimes it's just meantto be felt.
SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
Yes.
And thank you for that.
And also, you are exactly right.
I do not feel like any of thisis me.
Like when I'm really there,like, and I would say like in
those mastermind calls, it will,like you say, even here on the
podcast, right.
When, when there's like a stateof being, and I think we all
(36:03):
access this.
So I'm not saying that I'manything special or anything,
but we get to this place whereit's like, for me, the
experiences, the world couldblow up around me right now.
And I wouldn't notice.
SPEAKER_02 (36:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
You know, and, and it's not because that's not
important.
It's because like, like I'mlaser focused, like this
conversation is my entire world.
Right.
And so bringing that level toit, but it doesn't happen unless
it's also not me.
(36:38):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And so is it, this is the, thisis the question.
Is it the seeking or, of doingthat more in the world or is
that the ego version of us thatwants to do more of it because
we're so conditioned to achieveand what we're doing now is just
fine and if we were actuallyokay with it's just fine then we
(37:02):
would be doing more of it soit's like The removal of the
trying, the removal of thechasing, which is what we talk
about with money.
You take the chasing away frommoney and people can't wait to
give you money.
SPEAKER_00 (37:17):
Yeah.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
(37:47):
But I also accidentally kind offigured out how to, I found out
how to not want either.
And I wasn't allowing myself tolike want more wealth or to want
more impact or anything likethat.
So I've been really toyingaround with a lot of that
lately, what you're talkingabout, especially trying to
figure out like if it's ego ornot.
And I feel like what I've cometo is I feel like the universe
(38:11):
or source or again, Maybe evenyou want to say it's just us
mirroring it back to ourselves.
I feel like when we have like alike a like one of those ego
desires, it almost feels alittle bit fleeting.
It's almost like I would love todo this.
That would be really cool if Igot to do that or I got to do
this for more people.
But when I think of like thethings that I'm at least
(38:33):
currently perceiving as likemore sacred, it's like an ache
inside of me.
to do that work or to help thatmany people.
And it's never ending.
It just feels like it's deeperin there, I guess, if that makes
sense.
SPEAKER_01 (38:51):
It does.
And okay, this is great.
So from that state, because Iwanted to ask you this anyways,
but I didn't ask you.
I was meant to ask you this now.
From this state...
What do you really want to do inthe world?
Because a lot of people aregoing to be like, oh my God, who
is this powerful human?
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Yeah, this really started to come to me within the
past few days.
I, and I'm using comparisonsjust to like try to put words to
it because I can't even reallyput words to this.
I want to be like an MLK or aGandhi, right?
I really want to just change theworld.
(39:36):
I want to leave this worldknowing that billions of people
decided to truly live, whateverthat means.
Maybe that's creating your ownbusiness.
Maybe that's just a betterrelationship with money.
Whatever it is, it doesn'treally matter because, again,
freedom can take so many forms.
(39:56):
But I want to leave.
(40:27):
I'm just worried abouttransmitting that, like giving
that permission for you to feelalive, for you to truly do the
things that you want, becausethen you're going to change
everybody else around you.
And so I truly think that'simportant.
in a sense, the new way of uschanging things or like the new
(40:47):
activism.
Like I'm not always speaking onlike trans rights or something
like that because I don't reallythink I need to do that a lot.
I think I just need to show upand give you permission to do
whatever your thing is.
And then now we're just going tochange everything together.
We can't help but change itbecause of the frequency that
we're arriving at when we'redoing the work that we really
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love.
SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
Oh my God.
That was so beautifully said.
And I love that you brought uptrans rights and I love the way
that you say it because it's notbetter or worse, but not
everyone has to be like out withthe flag, right?
(41:33):
I almost can't even speak.
I'm so like moved by thisbecause you are just by you
being the self-expression of whoyou are and being trans, you are
speaking up for trans rightsbecause you are being who you
are.
And so someone is going to comein contact with you that would
have never even been at thatparade or whatever.
(41:55):
Someone that lives like in themiddle of nowhere, who's been
watching TV and been totallyagainst it.
And it's like, wow, this persondoes change my life.
I just got chills.
This person does change my life.
Yeah.
And she's trans.
And that is powerful.
SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Yep.
They're going to experience meand they're going to realize who
I am.
And that's going to speak morevolumes than it ever could for
me to hold that flag and say,like, why are you doing this to
me?
Like, why do you hate me?
I don't I don't need to do that.
I just need to show up.
exactly how I'm showing up rightnow.
And it's going to affect you.
(42:34):
I actually even think about itsometimes when I'm at like the,
the grocery store.
I, one of the things I love themost about who I am and is the
fact that I can show up in aspace and you kind of inherently
know that I'm, I'm somebodydifferent just by, just by
taking a look at me.
And, and that might affect you.
I didn't do anything.
(42:56):
You might just see me and thatmight affect you.
And I actually, I, I used tothink I wanted to train my voice
to change and I was potentiallygoing to get a surgery for my
face to change.
And I may still, I have no idea,whatever is meant to be will be,
but I've started to think morerecently, maybe I don't want
(43:18):
that.
Maybe I kind of like this weirdin-between stage where it's very
obvious that I am who I ambecause that does so much on its
own.
SPEAKER_01 (43:29):
You're right, it does.
It's almost like the equivalentof money neutrality, which is
the greatest opening.
Like by you being so much of whoyou are, it's like you have a
magnetism that you wouldn't haveif you didn't appear like you
appear in the middle of thegrocery store.
You could just be like, thisperson that's just like over
(43:52):
there and, you know, whatever.
Like, so in some ways, is itkind of by design?
SPEAKER_02 (43:58):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (43:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
you know, that, that like when someone, someone might
look at you versus just someother person over here and like,
you get to smile at them, youget to be in their world.
It's like this silent invite.
And it could be, you know, it'sup to them, whether that's from
a place of curiosity or whetherthat's from a place of anger and
(44:20):
that's their frequency.
But as strong as you are in yourfrequency of, you're not as
affected by that, which is soamazing.
And part of the reason whyyou're not affected by it is
because you're not looking forvalidation.
SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (44:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
So if, if people were to come to you and say,
cause I'll, I'm going to giveyou what I see.
Right.
So you, people block money allday long.
Because they can't show up aswho they are because they feel
like they are not ready yet.
(45:01):
They're not good enough.
There's all of these reasons,right?
And then when people do show upfor money, like you had brought
up earlier, it's very difficultfor them to receive, which also
is a worthiness thing too.
It's just the flip side of thecoin because money is circular,
right?
We have the abundance curve,which is circular.
(45:22):
So it's like, I feel like, youhave the ability to take people
deeper within themselves.
I love the fact that you're notsaying, well, you need to be a
coach or you need to be a swimteacher.
You need to be a blah, blah,blah, blah.
Because ultimately it's likeyou're working at a higher level
than that, right?
Like Gandhi didn't walk down thestreet and be like, how much
(45:44):
money do you have?
Or what, how many kids do youhave or whatever, right?
It's almost like you've risenabove that.
And you're like, no, no, no.
You can teach people How to bemore of who they are and you're
effectively teaching them almostthrough a level of transparency
and vulnerability coined withthat level of you do have a
(46:06):
level of permission and speakingup for yourself just because of,
you know, like you said, likenot being always raised as a
woman.
Like you have the whole packagehere really to be able to
deliver to someone.
And the thing that I also seeabout this, and I'm saying this
(46:27):
to people out there as well, isthat what Sabrina is expressing
in the world and teaching andoffering completely bypasses
time.
And so don't think, oh, it'sgoing to take me all this time
to learn this or whatever.
It's all about going vertical.
And if you resonate withSabrina, if you or if you
(46:49):
resonate with anything on here,and I always say this, take it,
do what you can with it.
If you resonate with Sabrina tothe point where you want to get
in contact with her, we're goingto put that here.
How can they?
What's the best way?
Is it Instagram?
SPEAKER_00 (47:04):
LinkedIn, actually.
I'm very active on LinkedIn.
SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
Okay, so how would they find you?
SPEAKER_00 (47:10):
You can actually find me...
pretty much anywhere at theSabrina Riley.
It's, it's almost the same onevery platform.
So it's I mean, like you said,we'll, we'll have it in the
description, but I believe it'slinkedin.com slash I N slash the
Sabrina Riley, if you were goingto actually type it in, but
yeah, it's very easy to find me.
SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
Okay, great.
Okay, perfect.
So if you are wanting to godeeper with this podcast,
self-expression of who you are,because I'm telling you, I'm
telling you that is linked tomoney.
The more you show up as who youare, the more abundance that you
will get.
And you're always choosing thatform of abundance, whether it's
(47:54):
a relationship, whether it'smoney, whatever it is, what you
bring to it is what you're goingto receive.
And so if you're feeling likeyou're blocked and you, you,
you're looking for permissionand you're looking for
something, um, definitely reachout.
Um, and yeah, Yeah, I just Icannot thank you.
I'm like, I cannot thank youenough for this conversation,
(48:15):
Sabrina.
Like you've given such a gift toeveryone here.
And we've got a lot oflisteners.
This podcast is actuallysurprised.
I was surprised.
It's very high ranked now.
And so you've got a lot ofpeople who you have you have
helped and you have given yourlove to.
And I just can't can't thank youenough for this.
SPEAKER_00 (48:36):
I can't thank you enough.
I've definitely struggled alittle bit with being patient
about how much impact I've had.
So like I said, I've beenmanifesting this for a year.
I've been looking forward tothis.
As soon as you told us in themastermind a couple of weeks
ago, we're going to give youguys an opportunity to be on the
podcast.
(48:56):
I was like, I can't email youfast enough.
Like, please, I am so excitedfor this conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (49:04):
I know.
I think you were the first, youmay probably the first one I'd
have to ask Leanne, but like,yeah, I think we got 12 people
immediately within 10 minutes orsomething.
Right.
But I think that you were thefirst one.
And I was like, okay, this isvalidation.
This is, this is what I shouldbe doing.
I should be, you know, learningeven about myself.
I learned so much about myselfthrough, through you guys,
(49:26):
whether I, you know, whetherit's mastermind or whether it's
here.
So is there anything that youkind of want to like, the part
that you would say, okay, if youwere standing on the top of a
building and you had amicrophone, what would you say
to people?
SPEAKER_00 (49:43):
I think I would say something that I feel like we
don't often say aboutself-development and growth and
that type of thing.
I think we usually either talkabout one kind of end of the
spectrum or the other.
We're either showing all thegood And not showing any of the
bad.
We're just like, I've grown somuch in the past six months and
(50:05):
it's amazing.
And then no one really knowswhat to do with that because
that often makes them feel lessor makes them feel like, well, I
don't know if I can do that too.
Or we talk about like reallyhard things, but we don't
necessarily like give anyoneanything to do with that.
And I think the thing that'shelped me the most over the past
(50:27):
two years on this journey Iguess I'll call it like
different timeline of this likenew version of myself is the
honesty that I've had.
I constantly ask myself, is thiswhat's going to make me truly
happy?
(50:47):
And that's how I've come so farin the last two years, because I
actually, the, the night that ithappens, it, it, the, the, The
fact that I'm trans literallydropped in.
It wasn't like a gradual thing.
It literally dropped in.
And I accepted it pretty quicklybecause I was honest with
myself.
And I said, I am basically numball the time.
(51:10):
I hate my life right now.
So how can this be any worse?
And so I think it's almost justlike a...
a call to the adventure.
It's like, why not have theadventure?
I get that it's scary and it is,don't get me wrong.
Like I was saying, I was justhaving a little bit of a morning
(51:32):
earlier.
I was feeling a little bitscared about certain things.
Like it happens, but you willnever regret trying to just go
on the adventure anyway, ortrying to like ask yourself the
tough questions anyway.
But I can guarantee you mightregret not doing that.
(51:53):
So self-development isn't alwayseasy, but it is always going to
be worth it every single time.
Like even as many times as youhave challenged me throughout
the last 10 weeks, maybe likethat wasn't easy.
But I can tell you I'm muchhappier that I'm able to show up
the way I am today than the wayI was 10 weeks ago.
(52:13):
I'm not sitting here thinkingabout, oh, my God, these last 10
weeks have been hard.
I'm sitting here celebrating thefact of like how enjoyable it is
to be this version of me.
UNKNOWN (52:24):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (52:26):
Wow.
Absolutely incredible.
It's lighter, isn't it?
That's the ironic part is thatwe go through the fire.
And it's like, oh, my God, oh,my God, you know, I got to get
out of this.
I got to fix this.
I got to fix this.
But when we don't fix it, it'slighter on the other side, isn't
it?
It's because that stuff had todie.
SPEAKER_02 (52:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (52:51):
Yeah.
Thank you so, so much.
Oh my God.
And so we'll definitely look upSabrina.
You're on Instagram too, right?
LinkedIn
SPEAKER_00 (53:00):
and LinkedIn, Instagram, sub stack, tick tock.
I'm kind of everywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (53:05):
Okay, great.
And if for some reason you can'tfind her, you could always send
me a DM and we'll, we'll get youhooked up.
You'll also see her inside ofthe groups as well because she's
in the mastermind now, but thenyou're also in club too.
And she's really active in thereand like a massive, massive
contributor and always answeringpeople's questions and giving
(53:27):
them feedback.
It's funny because you'realready giving so much value at
such a high level.
I don't know if you realize howmany people you really are
affecting already in a veryshort amount of time.
SPEAKER_00 (53:45):
I'm starting to learn to step into that and
recognize that, but I candefinitely tell you I have no
idea.
SPEAKER_01 (53:50):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (53:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (53:54):
So, all right.
Well, so thank you for listeningand enjoying this.
I certainly enjoyed it.
And we will see you on theepisode next week.
Thank you so much.
(00:30):
going to shift your world.
I guess let's just start thisout as we're starting it out,
which is this is Sabrina.
She's amazing.
She's one of everyone'sfavorites, although everyone in
the mastermind has their ownkind of deal and everything, but
(00:50):
she's definitely a shining lightin the spiritual investor
mastermind.
And I mean, just to even haveher on and be able to be myself,
be in her energy, plus sort ofhave you guys get to know her as
well.
It's just absolutely magical.
So one of the things that Iasked her when we first came on,
(01:11):
and there's really no start andstop to this, I guess, because
this podcast is a conversation.
It's just a real conversation.
When I asked her, because shesaid she's excited, I said, if
you could bottle thatexcitement, what would that be?
So what
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
would it be?
I don't know, what really comesup for me is just the fact that
I kind of manifested and claimedthis quite a while ago.
When I first started getting toknow your podcast and getting to
know your world a little bit, Iwas like, I'm going to be in
Elizabeth's world.
(01:46):
I'm going to be on this podcast.
So I've been thinking about thisfor like a year.
SPEAKER_01 (01:51):
Really?
That is so amazing.
Well, that's so amazing on somany levels.
I think for me, I think for you,uh, cause like when you think
about something for a year andit comes to fruition, it's like,
there's just such like beautifulvalidation for that, you know?
And I think that's inspiring forpeople because everyone has that
thing that they've been thinkingabout.
(02:13):
And so thank you for sharingthat.
SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
Yeah.
So, um, Is, is that sort of, soyou, you kind of meandered your
way in.
So you sort of came into thepodcast and then did you come in
through the SI club first or didyou just get, you did and you
went, then you went to themastermind, right?
That's right.
Because you, that's right.
You were incredible.
My team fell in love withSabrina, by the way, as soon as
(02:37):
she came in, because one thing Iwill say about you and I, I want
to just like, I want to hearyour version of this, but I also
want to make something verydistinct about to people that I
see about you that I guess thisis also maybe a reflection back,
which is one of the mostsuccessful, one of the most
(02:59):
dominant traits that I see invery successful people is that
when they take something on,they go vertical.
They just, they live it.
They just go in it.
Right.
And so I would say it's anability, you know, because it is
like, you know, we choose whatwe focus on.
And ever since you came into theclub, like you have been so
(03:22):
present and you have been sothere.
And I also think that there's acertain level of openness and
vulnerability that's requiredfor someone to go vertical.
And it says a lot about your theamount of confidence that you
have.
within yourself.
And so I just want to say that Iappreciate that because of
course, you've been magnifiedeven more inside the mastermind,
(03:44):
which is so fun for us all.
So I just want to preface that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:49):
Thank you.
I appreciate that so much morethan you know.
The version of me that's capableof that has really been
developing over the past twoyears.
I don't know exactly how muchyou know about my story, but it
was actually two years ago lastweek, the night that I realized
I was a trans woman.
And I weirdly realized a lot ofthings very quickly.
(04:14):
And one of those things was Iwas socialized as a man, so I
had a lot of the confidence andwilling to speak up and things
just already a little bit moregiven to me, I guess, that
sometimes women don't have.
And I was like, I have thechance to be a really powerful
(04:34):
voice and I have the chance togive other people permission to
be vulnerable and authentic andwhatever that is.
And so it's really been like avery intentional part of this
journey.
SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
God, that is so wonderful.
You know, I never even thoughtof that.
You kind of have the best ofboth worlds, don't you?
I love it.
And you worked in finance aswell, which, you know, that's, I
probably should have said thatat the beginning.
So like you have all of thisstuff that you were able to
bring forward.
(05:07):
And speaking of that, can you goa little bit deeper for us so
that we can understand what doyou want to bring forward?
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah.
Weirdly enough, I was a littlebit nervous for the podcast
because I haven't had as muchclarity recently as I wanted.
When I left my finance job inApril, I thought a lot of things
were going to drop in.
I thought I already understood,like, what am I doing?
What's the message?
(05:36):
All of these things.
And then I kind of realized Ididn't, and it was really
uncomfortable.
And so much has happened throughthe mastermind, actually, with
you talking about things Like,you know, not not holding on to
certain identities, or just likegoing beyond, you know, who you
think you currently are.
And I realized that it's, it'sall about freedom.
(05:59):
And it's actually been aboutfreedom.
Since I was 15.
I had this night where I hadthis conversation with my dad.
And I don't remember the exactwords he used.
But I ultimately realized he wassaying that he didn't believe in
himself.
And it kind of shattered myworld.
And I realized a bunch of peoplearound me didn't believe in
themselves.
(06:20):
And I was like, I don't knowwhat was in me at 15 that I was
like, I'm not going to live thatway.
I'm not going to settle.
I'm not just going to like, Iguess, play the game or just do
whatever I'm told I'm supposedto do.
I want to have a really amazinglife and I want to feel truly
(06:41):
free.
And so a lot of my work isexactly that.
And kind of in a business senseis where I've been focusing.
It's like, how can moreentrepreneurs do things they
really love and just be free?
I
SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
love it.
Well, it's kind of like...
you are emulating what you aredoing because I would say that's
kind of, that's exactly whatyou're doing right now.
I mean, you're learning how tocall in more money.
You're becoming more open tomoney.
You're stepping into thechallenging things.
You're expanding money throughinvesting.
You're becoming more of who youare.
(07:18):
And that's really a lot of thedeep work that I've seen you do.
And I also want to just revealto people that, you know,
Sabrina doesn't just come intothe group with all the, oh, this
is what I had such a wonderfulday yesterday.
Like when I say that Sabrinagoes vertical, like she comes in
(07:40):
with a, oh my God, like I don'teven know how I'm going to get
through today kind of thing.
Like, or she's, you know, she,she brings who she is and, And,
you know, we always talk aboutlike money and freedom.
And of course, like, you know,we all want just, we all want to
have so much money that we don'teven have to think about money
(08:00):
because that feels like freedom.
And while that is true, truefreedom is being able to show up
as you are and you do that sowell already.
And so it's not surprising thatyou want to merge that and sort
of bring that into business.
And like we started this with,Yeah.
(08:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
And it's weird because I even struggle with it
sometimes.
But it's funny that you talkabout that, that showing up
vulnerably and not alwaysshowing up with just all the
good or like the, I guess Ithink of that almost as like a
mask, like pretendingeverything's fine, even though,
you know, obviously like lifehappens.
I literally just had that kindof morning.
I was actually like all over theplace.
(09:04):
I just started my own podcastand it didn't upload correctly.
And I was really not having Andit was only like 45 minutes ago,
I was like, how you talk all thetime about standards, especially
in the mastermind.
I was like, I've got to getmyself right, not in a way of
like, I've got to perform andI've got to be like...
(09:26):
100%, you know, something forthis podcast, but in a way of
like, I need to show up with myfull self, like I need to be
able to show up with presence.
And I don't want all of thesethings this morning that
distracted me.
So I literally like took moretime for myself before I jumped
on here with you, because I justknew that I wasn't willing to
(09:49):
show up with the version of methat was showing up earlier this
morning.
SPEAKER_01 (09:54):
Oh my God.
I am so glad that you broughtthis up because you, of course
you have tapped into somethingthat is, I think really, really
on the forefront with people,because for me, what you just
described is true empowermentand true.
And there's only one thing,there's only one frequency and
it's love.
And then we label it and we sortof, we're always trying to use
(10:14):
these other frequencies to getback to love.
So empowerment at the level thatyou just described, which is you
are managing your own frequencyso that you can show up in a way
that is open and available toothers.
So this is the opposite of ego,right?
What we're seeing a lot now iswe're seeing this, like, I'll
say empowerment or authenticityout there where people are like,
(10:37):
I need to speak my truth.
Well, it's not that you don'tneed to speak your truth, but if
you're speaking your truth andyou're being an asshole and
you're hurting someone else,that is not empowerment.
Empowerment is what Sabrina isshowing you now.
Empowerment is managing your ownfucking frequency based on a
higher standard of who you knowyou want to be and then show up.
(10:58):
And you know what?
You're still going to have theshit show out here, but you at
that frequency will be able toweather the shit show.
And that's the key here isbecause everybody's trying to
fix the shit show.
And I'm like, but it's notreally a shit show if you're
willing to do what Sabrina justsaid, which is internal
(11:20):
empowerment.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
Yeah.
It's just the universe, likemirroring things back to us, or,
I mean, I guess we really arethe universe.
We are source.
So we're sort of doing it toourselves.
It's like me saying like, youneed to see this this morning.
You need to work through thisthis morning.
And, and yeah, it's not, it'snot bad.
It's literally just us teachingourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (11:42):
It is, you know, and I'm going through a lot of this
stuff now too.
Like I'm like creating theselittle mini bombs around me and
I'm like, but I'm trying, youknow, but the reality is, is
that I am bumping up against mycapacity left and right right
now.
So I am creating bombs, but itdoesn't really matter.
(12:02):
What matters is how am I goingto show up for it?
Right.
Um, And I think that we have toget to a certain level of like
the shifts within us that allowus to show up.
And so I would love to hear fromyou.
And I think this would help thelisteners as well, because we're
always looking for that.
(12:23):
Well, what changed?
Well, what shifted?
Well, what, where's that pivotpoint, you know?
And so it doesn't really matterwhether it's in the mastermind,
outside of the mastermind orboth or whatever.
If you were to think of, well,Like a pivot point that's
happened probably within thelast, let's say, three to six
months.
What would that be?
SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Definitely both inside and outside of the
mastermind.
But coming back to that identityand authenticity thing, you
probably don't realize how muchyou challenged me with that
because I...
Thank you so much.
(13:16):
like this is who I am and I'mnot willing to, to like see
myself any other way.
And, and it was stopping me.
And, and I've started to realizethat I don't necessarily need to
like always talk about thatidentity or I don't, or I don't
need to say this is exactly whatmy work is, or this is exactly
what it's going to be.
(13:37):
And so that challenged me veryhard.
That, that was, that was like areally weird edge that I had
where I like, again, knew thatmaybe there was some good to the
way that I was showing up, butyou were also still like over
here challenging me in a bigway.
And it really took me like maybealmost a month.
(13:57):
I think it's already been a fewweeks since you started bringing
that up in the mastermind tolike really start to realize the
beauty of, or even like thefreedom of not feeling like I
have to show up a certain wayand just kind of seeing where
everything goes.
SPEAKER_01 (14:14):
Oh, I love that.
And I remember, I remember theconversation.
I think, I think it was part of,we had that conversation in one
of the, the, the live calls,didn't we?
Where, yeah, I remember thatwhere it was like, we had this
version of self-expression wherewe feel like we need to tell
people who we are.
(14:34):
And then we have this version ofself-expression where they are
decide who we are.
And when they decide who we are,and it's that powerful version,
that's where the expansionfactor kicks in.
Because when I've decided whoyou are, I'm carrying you within
me.
SPEAKER_02 (14:51):
And
SPEAKER_01 (14:51):
that is the merging of us.
And when I go out there, I can'twait until I get to talk about
you.
And I get to say, oh, my God,guess what?
This is like Sabrina on thepodcast.
This is what she does.
Right.
But if you are telling me whoyou are, then it's going through
my filter system, which I havebrokenness and conditioning to.
(15:13):
We all do.
So I'm only getting the parts ofyou that I can take.
And it's actually like, it's notserving us either, right?
And so I think our opening andyou are teaching us this in this
very moment, which is whensomeone else tells you who you
(15:33):
are and it resonates, you'rethere.
SPEAKER_02 (15:36):
And
SPEAKER_01 (15:39):
that's what we're going for.
And we're creating the space forthat rather than trying to tell
someone, I'm this, I'm this, I'mthis.
Because when I don't tellsomeone who I am, they're
curious and curiosity is adrawing into the void.
It's an invite.
Right.
(15:59):
But when I'm like in somebody'sface and blah, blah, blah,
they're not curious.
They're like, and I think I lovethat you brought this up.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Because I think we're all goingthrough it.
Myself included.
We're all going through it.
SPEAKER_00 (16:13):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
It's a huge pivot point for you.
SPEAKER_00 (16:16):
And honestly, one of the hard things in conjunction
with that is the receiving.
I have been struggling to, whenI hear things like what you've
said about me, to just sit withthat and to realize, yeah, this
is who I am now.
Because in many ways, comingback to that 15-year-old version
(16:39):
of me that I mentioned thatrealized things and reality was
shattered, I really started todream in a big way.
about who I could become and Ikind of weirdly fulfilled this
vow to myself that I made at 15very recently I'm so much of who
I intended to become and I'm 30I turned 30 in April so it's
(17:02):
like still blowing my mind notthat time or the age has to
matter but it's still blowing mymind and I'm still trying to to
like come to the realizationthat like this is who I am right
now um and that I could even bethat much more powerful
tomorrow.
So I'm receiving that a lotbetter in this moment than I
(17:23):
might have even a couple ofweeks ago.
But but that's been reallydifficult, too.
Oh,
SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
God, I'm so glad you brought up the receiving part.
It is it is it's it's a.
It's quite challenging becausereceiving is basically just re
is like retaking in the form ofus that we perhaps don't want to
see.
Mm
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
hmm.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
And who wants to do that?
Right.
It's like, don't feed me choppedliver.
Right.
I came here for a filet andyou're giving me chopped liver
and you're expecting me to beokay with this.
Right.
You brought something into thespace and I, cause you, you, you
have a wisdom about you.
You've probably heard thatbefore.
You have a wisdom.
You're like, Oh my God.
(18:05):
I was like, I could have met youon the streets in India or
something, you know?
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (18:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
You brought something into the space that
came up for me.
And this is really, in someways, it's like me learning, me
asking you to reflect back tome, but at the same time, hoping
that this kind of resonates withother people as well in their
life, which is, so when I saidthose things, um, which were,
(18:36):
see, it's like kudos for youbecause that could have been
polarizing for you and you couldhave been like, oh my God, get
up and run away, right?
But you didn't.
When I said those things, sobecause I am saying things
without intention and becauseI'm saying things to
(18:57):
authentically provide and lovesomeone, I don't have fear when
I say those things.
What I've noticed is thatbecause I have one relationship
in my life in particular whereI'm kind of trying to like make
things better for this person.
(19:18):
I'm trying to orchestrate it.
Let me make this world betterfor this person.
And what I find is I keep likerunning into walls.
So I'm thinking, OK, I'm makingthis world better.
But yet a lot of times I amshowing up inauthentically
because I'm kind of hiding whatI really want to say because I'm
(19:43):
doing it for the benefit ofthem.
But ultimately, that's notbenefiting them.
So there's this line betweenlike.
saying something from a place oflove, but also sometimes not
saying something.
And that is love.
So I would just love to hearyour take on that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:04):
Yeah, honestly, it's so interesting because I just
had coffee with a friendyesterday, and the way he put
this was so incredible.
At one point, he was going toshare something slightly
difficult with me, and he waslike, if you don't mind, I'm
just going to drop a pebble inyour experience.
And however that ripples orwhatever that does, like...
(20:26):
you can take it or leave itbasically in a very loving way.
And that's almost what I feellike you do in, in the podcast
and in the mastermind and in thecommunity is, is it just feels
like you, you like drop theselittle pebbles that you ripple
out and have more of an effect.
Usually later on, we don't, wedon't even always realize like
(20:49):
how much what you said isaffecting us in that moment, but
it, it feels very, very, I getwhat you're saying, that it's
not intentional.
You're not purposefully sayingcertain words, but it almost
feels really skillful at thesame time, if that makes any
sense.
I can tell you had to show upwith a lot of intention to be
(21:11):
able to let the right words comethrough you, I guess.
SPEAKER_01 (21:15):
Thank you for talking about this and
explaining this, because asyou're saying this, I'm trying
to think, because I...
When I'm saying these things, Ifeel like my arms are wide and
I'm pulling in the energy ofother people.
So I actually don't even feellike I'm.
(21:37):
I feel like I'm kind of sayingit to myself and everyone.
I think that's the difference.
I think, you know, because if Ifeel like I'm saying it to
someone else only, then I wouldbe judging.
SPEAKER_02 (21:50):
If
SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
I don't also include that, then there's a comparison,
which means there's a judgment,which means there is a lack of
oneness.
And so what it's doing, and thisreflection back is helping me
sort of raise my...
It's not that I want to changeit, but our standards keep
changing based on our reflectionback.
(22:12):
And so if I'm in a situationwhere I don't also see that in
myself, then perhaps...
it might feel authentic, butmaybe it's not.
Do you get what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (22:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love, I love it.
It's, it's, it's so cool to beable to be at this place of like
questioning things, but notalways needing the answer right
away.
I feel like that makes, makesthe adventure so much more fun
because it's not like, Oh myGod, I, I, I really, you know,
that kind of rocked me and likehaving a problem with it.
It's just, Oh, that'sinteresting.
(22:46):
Like I'm going to reflect onthat.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah.
And I think that there is alevel of when we don't have to
always be right, there is a lotof freedom.
And I'm looking at that in mylife.
(23:09):
I'm looking at areas in my lifewhere I'm like, where do I
almost know too much freedom?
that i need to unknow becauselike if i don't unknow then i'm
blocking and it doesn't matterwhat i know or don't know what
matters is that i'm not willingto unknow and so i am looking at
(23:35):
ways i'm like almost likeobserving myself in terms of
that in order to um unlockdifferent things and i'm also
looking at what's challengingyou know, as well.
And I think, you know, when wetalk about this with money, you
(23:56):
know, we are just effectivelymoney conduits.
You know, we're out here tradingenergetic currency for whatever
form of abundance, right?
I feel like this is only, it'sgetting more and more so now, is
now that people are using,they're like basically like
self-expressing who they areLike we just talked about like
(24:19):
the business for you and they'reexchanging that energetic
currency of really, truly whothey are for money, you know?
And I think like probably one ofthe most classic cases is, do
you know that Indian spiritualguru named Amma?
Do you remember her?
I don't
SPEAKER_02 (24:37):
think so.
SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Anyway, so she tours all over the world and she gives
hugs and it is just lines andlines and lines of people out
the door.
And so she just has thisresonance where it's like this
energy that she's able to emitfor people coming on stage.
I mean, people wait likethroughout the night to give her
a hug and go up there and you dothat.
(25:00):
And so it's like if someone everasked her, is that a good
business idea?
I mean, like...
That would not, but it'sphenomenal.
Or even you look at AbrahamHicks who, what, 30 years ago
just basically started puttingpeople on stage and asking them
questions, right?
So I love that you are, I feellike, on the journey of helping
(25:23):
people get there because I dobelieve that we're getting
closer and closer and closer toa future where not only will the
wealth be in the hands of thosewho are conscious, right?
Cause that is, that's the realpivot shift.
People will be trading trulylike who they are for whatever
(25:43):
form of abundance.
What, what is your thought onthat?
SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Honestly, I think about this so often.
And I think you know from themastermind I've talked about
wanting to make big change inthe world, but I've been kind of
vague about it.
And I really had to...
I think I mentioned it a littlebit last week.
I really had to work on that.
And I had to work on allowingmyself to dream a little bit
(26:08):
bigger and have more specificdesires.
And I genuinely think that...
Conscious business and consciouswealth is going to change the
world.
I mean, it literally has to.
And it's not that I thinkthere's not other ways of doing
it, too.
But that's one of the reasonswhy I'm so focused on working
with entrepreneurs, because I'mthinking.
(26:31):
Someone like you is a greatexample.
Like you're going to put outreally impactful work in the
world.
You're going to pay the peoplethat worked for you really well.
You're going to treat themreally well.
You're going to allow them to bemore of themselves.
You're going to help them grow.
Like that's just such adifferent ecosystem than so much
of what we know work to be rightnow.
(26:52):
And so, yeah, it's like, likethis, this whole conversation is
close to my heart.
Like, I think, I think itreally, I think, like you said,
it's already changed.
And I think it's also changingat a pace that we can't really
comprehend.
Like, I actually think a lotabout human design when I talk
about this and some of the othermodalities that suggest that
2025 was already a massive shiftand like 2027 and some of these.
(27:17):
Like, I think we're I thinkwe're here.
I think it's happening now.
I think in some ways it feelsweird or it looks weird because
especially in the US, there's somuch happening.
But I think there's so muchhappening because it's making
space for So I think we'reliterally right on the cusp of
like a completely different wayof life and way of business and
(27:39):
all of these things.
And I think we have no idea thatmaybe even two years from now,
it's not going to look anythinglike it does right now.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
No, it's not.
And you're exactly right that itis already changing.
I mean, you know, it is justrecently where it has shifted
that smaller teams actually havea stark advantage.
Why?
Because of AI, right?
And you can change and you canturn and you can pivot and do
things, right?
Another thing that I think haschanged in the industry, and
(28:09):
this comes from, you know,talking to some friends of mine
who are just really just spot onwith just marketing and stuff.
is that just even social mediaand the way that we're talking
to people or not talking topeople, I would say it's been
like that in the past.
Seeing that so much is goingmore sort of like in the groups,
(28:34):
you know, so like basicallyhaving people join groups and
then There's a shocking amountof value that's going on inside
groups.
Not to say it's not going outthere on social, but what I find
is that sometimes people stay inthe hamster wheel if they're
just trying to learn from socialbecause you're getting the
(28:56):
crumbs.
You're getting the look here,look there, which I don't know
how much of that is reallydistillable.
Versus if you take that extrastep, like you did, like go
vertical, get in the group, yougot to get into a group that's,
that's really going to blow youaway though, is that with
(29:17):
values.
I think the standards are sohigh.
Right.
And so I'm always looking tomyself, right?
Like, Oh, like if it's notblowing me away, it's not
blowing them away and viceversa.
Right.
And I think,
SPEAKER_02 (29:28):
yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:29):
But you know what's funny and what I'm trying to
catch up with is it's so hard toexplain too, because I think
it's changing so fast.
Like even the mastermind thistime, I've told you guys, it's
so different.
It's like we've had greatmasterminds, but this one is so
different, right?
I mean, I don't know.
What is your experience of themastermind?
Because I don't even know that Ican describe.
(29:50):
I think I do a poor job of itreally.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (29:55):
I don't know.
I think, I think in a weird way,it's one of those things that's
hard to describe, but I'll justsay it just, I think it's, I
think it's the way that, thatcoming back to the way that you
challenge us.
I think one of the best ways todescribe it is you just
challenge us to take massiveleaps in like who we are and how
(30:17):
we show up in the world.
SPEAKER_02 (30:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
And I feel like there's a lot of groups you can
go in where, yes, you're stillgetting a lot out of it, but
it's kind of like how you alsotalk about like getting on your
yoga mat and then like feelingreally good afterwards.
Like I don't feel that from themastermind.
I don't feel this.
Like every time I get off acall, I feel really good.
(30:42):
Or I necessarily feel like theold identity is validated.
I feel more challenged to likemake a big leap or, or to move
past an edge.
And so I feel like it's, itfeels like the mastermind is
like, we're really doing thework and that's not to compare
in a way or like suggest thatother people aren't.
(31:04):
But I think sometimes we we showup in ways where we create
containers where we're justgetting we're just nudging like
slightly forward.
And that's OK, too.
But I feel like your mastermindis like, let's just throw it all
out the window and let's let'slet's like find find new
versions and find new ways likelike let's let's let's just get
after it because because whynot?
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Thank you so much for thisreflection back, because I Um,
what you, first of all, I'm soglad that that's your
experience.
Like I, I can, I could not bemore grateful in this moment
because I feel like, I feel likeeveryone who comes into the
mastermind, like, and we do usethat very first call just to get
(31:47):
to know each other and likeshoot the shit.
Okay.
This is what are you doing inlife?
And you know, I feel like I fallin love with everyone in the
mastermind in the beginning andyou are, I'm even feeling
emotional about it because it's,Like you're helping me see that,
that that is part of it is thatI do.
And I've never realized that.
And I think what it does too ishearing you describe it or is
(32:15):
showing me where I show up inthe mastermind.
What you're describing in themastermind is how I live my
life.
And when we are theself-expression in our work of
who we are in life, then there'sno difference, right?
(32:35):
But it's showing me that whenI'm in the areas of my life that
I'm not that.
Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (32:41):
I also need to share with you, like, sure, I do see
where there's different levels,right?
Like, I do see where you do showup in the mastermind, maybe even
more so.
But I know for sure that youalso show up that way in the
other spaces, including thepodcast.
Like you said, like that's justwho you are.
Because when I first startedlistening to the podcast, I
(33:05):
think it was like a year and ahalf ago or something like that.
I actually put it down for acouple months because I was
like, I don't really understandthis.
I don't feel super comfortablewith this.
Like you say very challengingthings, not just when someone's
like, On the call, like reallyclose with you, like you really
challenge everybody in everyspace that you have and in the
(33:29):
best way.
And so, yeah, like I even had alittle bit of trouble with the
podcast at one point because Iwas like, I don't know that I
want to feel these
SPEAKER_01 (33:39):
things.
I love that.
I love that you're saying that.
No one could give me more value.
And I feel like I'm feeling veryselfish because I'm like, I
didn't mean to make this aboutme, right?
No one could give me more valuethan you're giving me right now,
which is like having a realconversation with how this is
shifting you.
Because I can't read the labelfrom outside the jar, right?
(34:02):
I do hear, I hear this a lotwhere people, they say, I didn't
totally understand what you weresaying.
but I knew that I needed to keeplistening.
But then it finally clicked andmy life has shifted.
I hear that.
(34:24):
So I think you're saying that,which what it does is it makes
me actually do nothing.
Like do nothing different thanwhat I'm doing, right?
I had someone the other day sayto me that I have my own
language, right?
that I kind of like speak adifferent language, which I
don't know that.
(34:46):
And she was like, well, what ifpeople don't understand the
language that you're using?
And I'm like, well, first ofall, how do we know that?
We're only in here.
Secondly, I guess if they don'tunderstand it, they'll go away.
SPEAKER_00 (35:01):
Yeah.
I mean, in many ways, Isometimes...
Yeah.
(35:26):
I don't necessarily thinkthere's anything wrong with
that.
It kind of almost just feelslike you're just like
transmitting what we need tohear.
And maybe it's not always meantto be entirely understood.
Maybe sometimes it's just meantto be felt.
SPEAKER_01 (35:41):
Yes.
And thank you for that.
And also, you are exactly right.
I do not feel like any of thisis me.
Like when I'm really there,like, and I would say like in
those mastermind calls, it will,like you say, even here on the
podcast, right.
When, when there's like a stateof being, and I think we all
(36:03):
access this.
So I'm not saying that I'manything special or anything,
but we get to this place whereit's like, for me, the
experiences, the world couldblow up around me right now.
And I wouldn't notice.
SPEAKER_02 (36:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
You know, and, and it's not because that's not
important.
It's because like, like I'mlaser focused, like this
conversation is my entire world.
Right.
And so bringing that level toit, but it doesn't happen unless
it's also not me.
(36:38):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And so is it, this is the, thisis the question.
Is it the seeking or, of doingthat more in the world or is
that the ego version of us thatwants to do more of it because
we're so conditioned to achieveand what we're doing now is just
fine and if we were actuallyokay with it's just fine then we
(37:02):
would be doing more of it soit's like The removal of the
trying, the removal of thechasing, which is what we talk
about with money.
You take the chasing away frommoney and people can't wait to
give you money.
SPEAKER_00 (37:17):
Yeah.
Thank you so much for joiningus.
(37:47):
But I also accidentally kind offigured out how to, I found out
how to not want either.
And I wasn't allowing myself tolike want more wealth or to want
more impact or anything likethat.
So I've been really toyingaround with a lot of that
lately, what you're talkingabout, especially trying to
figure out like if it's ego ornot.
And I feel like what I've cometo is I feel like the universe
(38:11):
or source or again, Maybe evenyou want to say it's just us
mirroring it back to ourselves.
I feel like when we have like alike a like one of those ego
desires, it almost feels alittle bit fleeting.
It's almost like I would love todo this.
That would be really cool if Igot to do that or I got to do
this for more people.
But when I think of like thethings that I'm at least
(38:33):
currently perceiving as likemore sacred, it's like an ache
inside of me.
to do that work or to help thatmany people.
And it's never ending.
It just feels like it's deeperin there, I guess, if that makes
sense.
SPEAKER_01 (38:51):
It does.
And okay, this is great.
So from that state, because Iwanted to ask you this anyways,
but I didn't ask you.
I was meant to ask you this now.
From this state...
What do you really want to do inthe world?
Because a lot of people aregoing to be like, oh my God, who
is this powerful human?
SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
Yeah, this really started to come to me within the
past few days.
I, and I'm using comparisonsjust to like try to put words to
it because I can't even reallyput words to this.
I want to be like an MLK or aGandhi, right?
I really want to just change theworld.
(39:36):
I want to leave this worldknowing that billions of people
decided to truly live, whateverthat means.
Maybe that's creating your ownbusiness.
Maybe that's just a betterrelationship with money.
Whatever it is, it doesn'treally matter because, again,
freedom can take so many forms.
(39:56):
But I want to leave.
(40:27):
I'm just worried abouttransmitting that, like giving
that permission for you to feelalive, for you to truly do the
things that you want, becausethen you're going to change
everybody else around you.
And so I truly think that'simportant.
in a sense, the new way of uschanging things or like the new
(40:47):
activism.
Like I'm not always speaking onlike trans rights or something
like that because I don't reallythink I need to do that a lot.
I think I just need to show upand give you permission to do
whatever your thing is.
And then now we're just going tochange everything together.
We can't help but change itbecause of the frequency that
we're arriving at when we'redoing the work that we really
(41:10):
love.
SPEAKER_01 (41:12):
Oh my God.
That was so beautifully said.
And I love that you brought uptrans rights and I love the way
that you say it because it's notbetter or worse, but not
everyone has to be like out withthe flag, right?
(41:33):
I almost can't even speak.
I'm so like moved by thisbecause you are just by you
being the self-expression of whoyou are and being trans, you are
speaking up for trans rightsbecause you are being who you
are.
And so someone is going to comein contact with you that would
have never even been at thatparade or whatever.
(41:55):
Someone that lives like in themiddle of nowhere, who's been
watching TV and been totallyagainst it.
And it's like, wow, this persondoes change my life.
I just got chills.
This person does change my life.
Yeah.
And she's trans.
And that is powerful.
SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Yep.
They're going to experience meand they're going to realize who
I am.
And that's going to speak morevolumes than it ever could for
me to hold that flag and say,like, why are you doing this to
me?
Like, why do you hate me?
I don't I don't need to do that.
I just need to show up.
exactly how I'm showing up rightnow.
And it's going to affect you.
(42:34):
I actually even think about itsometimes when I'm at like the,
the grocery store.
I, one of the things I love themost about who I am and is the
fact that I can show up in aspace and you kind of inherently
know that I'm, I'm somebodydifferent just by, just by
taking a look at me.
And, and that might affect you.
I didn't do anything.
(42:56):
You might just see me and thatmight affect you.
And I actually, I, I used tothink I wanted to train my voice
to change and I was potentiallygoing to get a surgery for my
face to change.
And I may still, I have no idea,whatever is meant to be will be,
but I've started to think morerecently, maybe I don't want
(43:18):
that.
Maybe I kind of like this weirdin-between stage where it's very
obvious that I am who I ambecause that does so much on its
own.
SPEAKER_01 (43:29):
You're right, it does.
It's almost like the equivalentof money neutrality, which is
the greatest opening.
Like by you being so much of whoyou are, it's like you have a
magnetism that you wouldn't haveif you didn't appear like you
appear in the middle of thegrocery store.
You could just be like, thisperson that's just like over
(43:52):
there and, you know, whatever.
Like, so in some ways, is itkind of by design?
SPEAKER_02 (43:58):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (43:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
you know, that, that like when someone, someone might
look at you versus just someother person over here and like,
you get to smile at them, youget to be in their world.
It's like this silent invite.
And it could be, you know, it'sup to them, whether that's from
a place of curiosity or whetherthat's from a place of anger and
(44:20):
that's their frequency.
But as strong as you are in yourfrequency of, you're not as
affected by that, which is soamazing.
And part of the reason whyyou're not affected by it is
because you're not looking forvalidation.
SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:38):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (44:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
So if, if people were to come to you and say,
cause I'll, I'm going to giveyou what I see.
Right.
So you, people block money allday long.
Because they can't show up aswho they are because they feel
like they are not ready yet.
(45:01):
They're not good enough.
There's all of these reasons,right?
And then when people do show upfor money, like you had brought
up earlier, it's very difficultfor them to receive, which also
is a worthiness thing too.
It's just the flip side of thecoin because money is circular,
right?
We have the abundance curve,which is circular.
(45:22):
So it's like, I feel like, youhave the ability to take people
deeper within themselves.
I love the fact that you're notsaying, well, you need to be a
coach or you need to be a swimteacher.
You need to be a blah, blah,blah, blah.
Because ultimately it's likeyou're working at a higher level
than that, right?
Like Gandhi didn't walk down thestreet and be like, how much
(45:44):
money do you have?
Or what, how many kids do youhave or whatever, right?
It's almost like you've risenabove that.
And you're like, no, no, no.
You can teach people How to bemore of who they are and you're
effectively teaching them almostthrough a level of transparency
and vulnerability coined withthat level of you do have a
(46:06):
level of permission and speakingup for yourself just because of,
you know, like you said, likenot being always raised as a
woman.
Like you have the whole packagehere really to be able to
deliver to someone.
And the thing that I also seeabout this, and I'm saying this
(46:27):
to people out there as well, isthat what Sabrina is expressing
in the world and teaching andoffering completely bypasses
time.
And so don't think, oh, it'sgoing to take me all this time
to learn this or whatever.
It's all about going vertical.
And if you resonate withSabrina, if you or if you
(46:49):
resonate with anything on here,and I always say this, take it,
do what you can with it.
If you resonate with Sabrina tothe point where you want to get
in contact with her, we're goingto put that here.
How can they?
What's the best way?
Is it Instagram?
SPEAKER_00 (47:04):
LinkedIn, actually.
I'm very active on LinkedIn.
SPEAKER_01 (47:07):
Okay, so how would they find you?
SPEAKER_00 (47:10):
You can actually find me...
pretty much anywhere at theSabrina Riley.
It's, it's almost the same onevery platform.
So it's I mean, like you said,we'll, we'll have it in the
description, but I believe it'slinkedin.com slash I N slash the
Sabrina Riley, if you were goingto actually type it in, but
yeah, it's very easy to find me.
SPEAKER_01 (47:32):
Okay, great.
Okay, perfect.
So if you are wanting to godeeper with this podcast,
self-expression of who you are,because I'm telling you, I'm
telling you that is linked tomoney.
The more you show up as who youare, the more abundance that you
will get.
And you're always choosing thatform of abundance, whether it's
(47:54):
a relationship, whether it'smoney, whatever it is, what you
bring to it is what you're goingto receive.
And so if you're feeling likeyou're blocked and you, you,
you're looking for permissionand you're looking for
something, um, definitely reachout.
Um, and yeah, Yeah, I just Icannot thank you.
I'm like, I cannot thank youenough for this conversation,
(48:15):
Sabrina.
Like you've given such a gift toeveryone here.
And we've got a lot oflisteners.
This podcast is actuallysurprised.
I was surprised.
It's very high ranked now.
And so you've got a lot ofpeople who you have you have
helped and you have given yourlove to.
And I just can't can't thank youenough for this.
SPEAKER_00 (48:36):
I can't thank you enough.
I've definitely struggled alittle bit with being patient
about how much impact I've had.
So like I said, I've beenmanifesting this for a year.
I've been looking forward tothis.
As soon as you told us in themastermind a couple of weeks
ago, we're going to give youguys an opportunity to be on the
podcast.
(48:56):
I was like, I can't email youfast enough.
Like, please, I am so excitedfor this conversation.
SPEAKER_01 (49:04):
I know.
I think you were the first, youmay probably the first one I'd
have to ask Leanne, but like,yeah, I think we got 12 people
immediately within 10 minutes orsomething.
Right.
But I think that you were thefirst one.
And I was like, okay, this isvalidation.
This is, this is what I shouldbe doing.
I should be, you know, learningeven about myself.
I learned so much about myselfthrough, through you guys,
(49:26):
whether I, you know, whetherit's mastermind or whether it's
here.
So is there anything that youkind of want to like, the part
that you would say, okay, if youwere standing on the top of a
building and you had amicrophone, what would you say
to people?
SPEAKER_00 (49:43):
I think I would say something that I feel like we
don't often say aboutself-development and growth and
that type of thing.
I think we usually either talkabout one kind of end of the
spectrum or the other.
We're either showing all thegood And not showing any of the
bad.
We're just like, I've grown somuch in the past six months and
(50:05):
it's amazing.
And then no one really knowswhat to do with that because
that often makes them feel lessor makes them feel like, well, I
don't know if I can do that too.
Or we talk about like reallyhard things, but we don't
necessarily like give anyoneanything to do with that.
And I think the thing that'shelped me the most over the past
(50:27):
two years on this journey Iguess I'll call it like
different timeline of this likenew version of myself is the
honesty that I've had.
I constantly ask myself, is thiswhat's going to make me truly
happy?
(50:47):
And that's how I've come so farin the last two years, because I
actually, the, the night that ithappens, it, it, the, the, The
fact that I'm trans literallydropped in.
It wasn't like a gradual thing.
It literally dropped in.
And I accepted it pretty quicklybecause I was honest with
myself.
And I said, I am basically numball the time.
(51:10):
I hate my life right now.
So how can this be any worse?
And so I think it's almost justlike a...
a call to the adventure.
It's like, why not have theadventure?
I get that it's scary and it is,don't get me wrong.
Like I was saying, I was justhaving a little bit of a morning
(51:32):
earlier.
I was feeling a little bitscared about certain things.
Like it happens, but you willnever regret trying to just go
on the adventure anyway, ortrying to like ask yourself the
tough questions anyway.
But I can guarantee you mightregret not doing that.
(51:53):
So self-development isn't alwayseasy, but it is always going to
be worth it every single time.
Like even as many times as youhave challenged me throughout
the last 10 weeks, maybe likethat wasn't easy.
But I can tell you I'm muchhappier that I'm able to show up
the way I am today than the wayI was 10 weeks ago.
(52:13):
I'm not sitting here thinkingabout, oh, my God, these last 10
weeks have been hard.
I'm sitting here celebrating thefact of like how enjoyable it is
to be this version of me.
UNKNOWN (52:24):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (52:26):
Wow.
Absolutely incredible.
It's lighter, isn't it?
That's the ironic part is thatwe go through the fire.
And it's like, oh, my God, oh,my God, you know, I got to get
out of this.
I got to fix this.
I got to fix this.
But when we don't fix it, it'slighter on the other side, isn't
it?
It's because that stuff had todie.
SPEAKER_02 (52:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (52:51):
Yeah.
Thank you so, so much.
Oh my God.
And so we'll definitely look upSabrina.
You're on Instagram too, right?
SPEAKER_00 (53:00):
and LinkedIn, Instagram, sub stack, tick tock.
I'm kind of everywhere.
SPEAKER_01 (53:05):
Okay, great.
And if for some reason you can'tfind her, you could always send
me a DM and we'll, we'll get youhooked up.
You'll also see her inside ofthe groups as well because she's
in the mastermind now, but thenyou're also in club too.
And she's really active in thereand like a massive, massive
contributor and always answeringpeople's questions and giving
(53:27):
them feedback.
It's funny because you'realready giving so much value at
such a high level.
I don't know if you realize howmany people you really are
affecting already in a veryshort amount of time.
SPEAKER_00 (53:45):
I'm starting to learn to step into that and
recognize that, but I candefinitely tell you I have no
idea.
SPEAKER_01 (53:50):
Yeah.
UNKNOWN (53:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (53:54):
So, all right.
Well, so thank you for listeningand enjoying this.
I certainly enjoyed it.
And we will see you on theepisode next week.
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