All Episodes

July 24, 2025 40 mins

What happens when you’ve spent your whole career doing meaningful work… but you’re still underpaid, undervalued, and quietly burning out?

This week, I’m joined by Kim Kiel—a brand voice expert, copy coach, and former nonprofit pro who walked away from a 20-year mission-driven career to start something of her own.

At 42, with two young kids and no plan B, Kim left the “safe” path. What followed was a powerful unlearning of everything she’d been taught about money, worth, and what it means to be of service.

In just two years, she went from writing grants for causes to running a thriving copywriting agency—earning more in a month than she used to in a year, while helping purpose-driven entrepreneurs sell with integrity.

We talk about what it really takes to walk away from a role that no longer fits, how to navigate the identity shift of starting over, and why choosing yourself doesn’t mean abandoning your values.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:
✅ The mindset shifts Kim had to make after leaving the nonprofit world
✅ How she built a six-figure copywriting agency rooted in integrity
✅ Why ethical copywriting is more powerful (and profitable) than you think

3 KEY TAKEAWAYS:
1️⃣ Wanting a proper salary doesn’t make you selfish. It makes you sustainable.
2️⃣ You don’t have to choose between purpose and profit. You can build both.
3️⃣ Your voice is your superpower—and people are craving real connection.

🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES:
Listen to Kim’s podcast: ill communication
Download Kim’s Sales Copy Scorecard: kimkiel.com/scorecard
Follow Kim on Instagram: @kim_kiel_copy

MORE FROM ME:

Follow me on Instagram → @janditchfield.co

RATE, REVIEW, & FOLLOW ON APPPLE PODCASTS

"Jan’s advice on building a business that aligns with my values is exactly what I’ve been looking for!" <– If that sounds like you, I’d love for you to take a moment to rate and review The Business of Good.

Your feedback helps me reach more purpose-driven women like you who are ready to create profitable businesses that make a difference.

Simply click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then, don’t forget to share what resonated most with you in this episode!

And if you haven’t done so already, be sure to hit the follow button. I’ve got even more actionable strategies, inspiring stories, and tools to help you grow your business of impact—don’t miss a thing!

JOIN THE FREE COMMUNITY:

Want to dive deeper into the conversations we’re having here? Join me in The Business of Good Collective, my free community where we share resources, support, and strategies to help you turn your mission into a thriving business. Head over to janditchfield.co/good to join today!

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist

It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.