The Business Of Marketing

The Business Of Marketing

The Business of Marketing podcast discusses how to win in the current marketing landscape. Hosted by A. Lee Judge, Digital Marketing Consultant along with a Mastermind Group of professional marketers. Stay up to date and sharp on your marketing knowledge while learning from these experienced marketers.

Episodes

July 28, 2025 41 mins

This episode explores the strategic value of podcasting for businesses and personal brands, offering expert insights on how to launch, structure, and promote a podcast effectively. Lee Judge and Katie Brinkley discuss common misconceptions, content repurposing, and the importance of aligning podcast goals with broader marketing strategies. 

  • Determining the purpose and format of a podcast
  • Common mistakes and red flags whe...
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The episode explores the intersection of design and marketing, emphasizing the importance of visual communication that drives business outcomes rather than just aesthetic appeal. A. Lee Judge and guest Jim MacLeod, author of The Visual Marketer, discuss how marketers can leverage design principles and professional tools to create visuals that are both effective and aligned with business goals. 

  • The role of design in dri...
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The episode explores how B2B professionals can strategically use LinkedIn to build authentic engagement, optimize their profiles, and leverage AI to enhance content creation and visibility. Lee Judge and guest Neal Schaffer dive into the nuances of LinkedIn's evolving features, including newsletters, carousels, and video, while emphasizing the importance of intentionality and audience alignment in content strategy. 

  • Opt...
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The episode explores how aligning sales, marketing, and product teams through a unified go-to-market narrative can drive better revenue outcomes and improve the customer experience. A. Lee Judge and Bruce Scheer discuss the importance of storytelling, internal alignment, and reducing friction in the buying journey to close more deals and retain customers. 

  • Defining and aligning around a go-to-market strategy
  • The power of...
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Data is the foundation of effective AI implementation in marketing. Lee Judge and Todd Ervin explore how clean, structured data enables AI to drive segmentation, buyer journey mapping, and campaign optimization. They also discuss the importance of building brand awareness, aligning marketing with revenue goals, and using AI to enhance research and content creation. 

  • The critical role of clean data in powering AI for mar...
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The episode explores the evolving role of marketing in B2B organizations, emphasizing the need for marketers to take ownership of strategy, customer understanding, and collaboration with sales. Lee Judge and guest Mary Keough discuss the importance of customer-centric content, the limitations of attribution in modern marketing, and how marketers can adapt to AI and shifting buyer behaviors. 

  • Differences in marketing str...
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The episode explores how AI is reshaping the landscape of SEO and digital marketing, urging marketers to shift from traditional keyword strategies to relevance and intent-based content creation. A. Lee Judge and Dale Bertrand discuss the importance of building content that resonates with human audiences while adapting to AI-driven search environments, emphasizing the need for marketers to align their efforts with business ...

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Jennifer Jurgens, CEO of 1BoldStep, shares how to reframe marketing as a core revenue function by focusing on measurable outcomes, fixing funnel bottlenecks, and driving customer retention.

From aligning with sales to applying Lean principles across the revenue cycle, Jennifer explains what it really takes to prove marketing’s value and earn a permanent seat at the table.

Conversation points:

  • Why the marketing-to-sales ha...
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In this special internal episode, A. Lee Judge and Marc Raco from Content Monsta unpack how companies can build content engines that deliver consistent visibility, authority, and demand—without burning out their teams.


They reveal why framing matters when selling marketing initiatives internally, how to build a content engine from expert conversations, resulting in multiple formats and a steady cadence of content creati...

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Pam Didner, B2B marketing expert and author of The Modern AI Marketer, joins A. Lee Judge to break down why prompting, automation, and AI-driven workflows are now critical for marketers.

She shares practical frameworks for individuals, teams, and enterprises - and explains why focusing on workflows (not tools) is the key to staying competitive.

If you want real-world strategies to future-proof your marketing career in an AI-...

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Best-selling author Mark Schaefer shares how marketers can thrive in AI by leaning into what machines can’t replicate: creativity, community, and courage.

Drawing from his latest book Audacious, Mark breaks down how to create standout content, build trust through word-of-mouth, and foster shared experiences that make your brand unforgettable. 

Grab a copy of Audacious by Mark Schaefer here: https://amzn.to/44zPOpO

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Drew Neisser, author of Renegade Marketing and founder of CMO Huddles, shares what he’s learned from interviewing hundreds of top CMOs. He reveals how the best marketers earn trust in the C-suite, build real influence, and prove marketing’s value through smart business alignment.

From building pricing power to reshaping internal messaging, Drew explains how today’s marketing leaders can do more than drive leads—they can sha...

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Nancy Harhut, author of Using Behavioral Science in Marketing, breaks down the psychology behind consumer decision-making and how marketers can apply these insights to drive action. She reveals how small, science-backed tweaks in messaging, design, and pricing can dramatically increase conversions.


From the power of social proof to the influence of scarcity and authority, Nancy shares how behavioral science can make you...

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Joe Pulizzi, the "Godfather of Content Marketing," shares how businesses and creators can build sustainable, revenue-generating content brands.

From monetization strategies and employee-driven content to the impact of AI on content creation, Joe unpacks what’s working today—and what’s next for content entrepreneurs.

He also explores why most companies underutilize their employees as brand advocates, how to diversify revenue...

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Sandy Carter, COO of Unstoppable Domains and a leader in AI, blockchain, and next-gen marketing, breaks down how emerging technologies are reshaping the way businesses connect with customers.

From the impact of AI on SEO and content marketing to the growing role of blockchain in trust and privacy, Sandy shares insights from the World Economic Forum and beyond.

She also dives into AI-powered agents, the evolution of marketin...

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B2B buyers are changing, and trust in brands is at an all-time low. Aaron Hassen, co-founder of AH Marketing, breaks down why traditional marketing strategies are failing and what businesses must do to stay relevant.

From building bold brands to navigating the shift toward informal, trust-driven engagement, Aaron shares insights on what it takes to capture attention and create demand.

He explores why businesses struggle to b...

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Marcus Sheridan, author of They Ask, You Answer, breaks down the evolution of content marketing and why trust is the ultimate competitive advantage.

From turning his struggling pool company into the most trafficked swimming pool website in the world to helping businesses become industry leaders, Marcus reveals the strategies that drive real business growth. He explains why traditional sales tactics are failing, how buyer be...

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AJ Wilcox, founder of B2Linked, breaks down the complexities of LinkedIn advertising and shares expert insights on making the platform work for your business. 

As one of the world’s top LinkedIn Ads specialists, AJ shares solutions to the challenges of high costs, targeting the right audience, and structuring campaigns for maximum ROI. From understanding LinkedIn’s unique ad ecosystem to building multi-stage funnels that nu...

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Wil Reynolds, founder of SEER Interactive, gets real on the rapidly evolving landscape of digital marketing. 

Wil shares his unique perspective on navigating the AI revolution, the importance of continuous learning, and why marketers need to adapt quickly to survive. From practical advice on mastering LLMs (Large Language Models) to building authentic influence through valuable content, this episode delivers actionable insi...

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February 11, 2025 27 mins

Rand Fishkin, founder of SparkToro and former co-founder of Moz, takes us through the evolution of digital marketing. 

From the concept of "zero-click marketing" to why traditional traffic-focused metrics are becoming less relevant in today's digital landscape, the conversation explores how major platforms are keeping users within their ecosystems, making it harder to drive external traffic, and why marketers need to adapt ...

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