April 8, 2025 • 58 mins
When traditional approaches to growth hit a wall, the answers often lie beneath the surface in our subconscious mind. In this fascinating conversation with clinical hypnotherapist Ally Rose, we explore how the deepest roots of our challenges—and their solutions—reside in beliefs formed decades ago.
The episode unveils the profound difference between self-sabotage and self-protection, revealing how behaviors we typically fight against are actually protective mechanisms created in childhood. We dive into the fascinating science behind why beliefs, not just thoughts, create our reality, and how hypnotherapy provides direct access to rewire these foundational operating systems. You'll learn practical signals that indicate when a challenge might be subconscious in nature—particularly the frustrating "loop" of making progress only to find yourself back where you started.
Throughout our conversation, Ally offers insights into complementary practices that enhance hypnotherapy's effectiveness and ways to incorporate these powerful tools into busy modern lives. Whether you're hitting roadblocks in business growth, struggling with recurring patterns, or simply curious about the untapped potential of your mind, this episode offers a fresh perspective on creating transformation from the inside out.
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Amber Annette (00:02):
Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, where
each episode I take you on anintuitive journey that will
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Whether it's the soul-ledconversations with my guests,
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entrepreneurial spirit.
I'm your host, Amber Annette,and I'm thrilled to be here with
you today to explore the depthsof what it means to be a woman
in business.
I believe that business isabout more than just profit.
It's about purpose and beingfully in your gifts.
So sit back, get present andlet's dive in and uncover the
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secrets to building a businesswith soul, purpose and magic.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
I'm Amber Annette, your host,and I am so excited to share
with you one of my previousclients, allie Rose.
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It's always so exciting to havesomebody I have actually worked
with before on the show,especially to reflect on how far
they have come and what theyare now doing out in the world.
So I'm excited to introduce youto Allie Rose.
She is a certified clinicalhypnotherapist and coach who
helps her clients get to theroot of and rewire their
self-sabotaging behaviors andsubconscious blocks so that they
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can create wealth, worth andwellness from within.
I absolutely am so excited totalk about hypnotherapy, the
subconscious, all of thesethings.
I've always been so interested,so fascinated, and work with my
own clients on these topics.
So, allie girl, let's get intoit Welcome.
Ally Rose (01:47):
Thank you so much for having me, Amber.
I'm so excited to be here withyou.
Amber Annette (01:51):
And we were just talking, I think.
I think we landed on the number.
Like it's been eight years orso, maybe around then, since,
like we've connected and sincewe work together.
So it's so wonderful to see youout in the world still bringing
your gifts to the world.
I it just I love it when I seemy past clients having so much
success.
So I'm so excited to have youhere and and so just kind of
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catch me up and share with myaudience what me hypnotherapy
like I know you used to be kindof more of that like traditional
therapist hypnotherapy Like Iknow you used to be kind of more
of that like traditionaltherapist.
So what made you kind of makethe switch?
Or let's get into it.
Ally Rose (02:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I've always beensomeone who I would say, has
been on the fringe of thetraditional therapy world.
I was doing video sessionsbefore COVID, like you know,
when people were laughing at melike what do you mean?
You're doing video sessions,all of that.
And so I've always exploreddifferent modalities within,
like, the therapeutic space, gotcoach training in 2013.
You know, so I'm always lookingfor ways, just like personally,
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for myself, to take things tothe next level, to make things
easier and also for my clients.
I'm always the guinea pig.
I try things on myself firstand then I bring them to my
clients.
So what happened withhypnotherapy was I for my
lifetime, I struggled withlevels of depression at times
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sometimes would dip into verylow spaces, and I did talk
therapy myself and it definitelyhelps.
However, I kept feeling like Iwas running into this wall.
I kept thinking why am I notable to get over this depression
?
And so I had been followingMarissa Peer and I did a few RTT
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it's called RTT hypnotherapy.
I did a few RTT it's called RTThypnotherapy.
Yeah, I did a few RTT sessionsfor myself and let me tell you,
my partner looked at me and saidafter the third one.
She was like I don't know likewhat happened to you, but you
are a completely differentperson.
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Like you look different, youfeel different, and I could feel
it within myself.
I could feel that something hadshifted so dramatically within
me, like a layer had been peeledoff, like I could feel it in my
body that something had shifted.
So I decided that I wanted totrain in RTT.
I wanted to bring the sameexperience that I had with
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clients, which was they wereseeing results, but I wanted
them to feel this like wow, Ifeel different, like I look
different, you know, into theirlives as well.
So that's kind of what led methere.
Amber Annette (04:37):
Okay, and so how?
What is that process like toget you know?
I mean, if you're in the, let'ssay, online development,
personal development space,right, we see lots of
certifications, what is to getcertified like in hypnotherapy,
kind of what?
What is that process like?
Ally Rose (04:56):
Yeah, I mean it's a very lengthy process.
You know you do modules, ofcourse, learning modules as
you're learning the technique.
So, bit by bit, you're learningdifferent pieces of the
technique.
You're also doing virtualclassrooms, which is where you
spend four hours with trainersand people from all over the
world practicing the things thatyou're learning and then, to
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complete it, you have to do apractical assessment or a
knowledge assessment, which iswhere you take an exam, and then
you also have to do a practicalassessment or a knowledge
assessment, which is where youtake an exam, and then you also
have to do a practicalassessment, where you actually
do a session on a fellowpractitioner and someone from
the school is actually likewatching you, observing you as
you do the session.
You know, to make sure that like, yeah, you have actually like
learned how to do them, you paidattention, right, right, right,
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like they're not going to sendyou off into the just like okay,
great, you've like passed yourtest and now you know I love
that about it Because, obviously, as a therapist, I went through
, you know, six years oftraining, and so that's
something that I actually reallyliked and appreciated was that
there was somebody who wasactually kind of observing
people making sure you weredoing it accurately, right
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Before you go out and do thisprocess with people.
So yeah, so it took me.
I would say I think I completedin about nine months.
Um, yeah, I completed aboutnine months much different than
six years.
Yeah so much different, butmuch more intensive.
Amber Annette (06:19):
So yeah, I was just going to say.
So let's and I don't want toslam at all the benefits of
traditional therapy, right Um.
However, I am just seeing somany more people be drawn to
alternative modalities, versusjust that traditional talk
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therapy where you go in once aweek or biweekly see a therapist
, you kind of unload and thenwashrooms, repeat kind of week
after week or, you know, sessionafter session, ultimately to
kind of feel most often I don'twant to say always, but most
often like there's not anyprogress, like there's not any
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change or growth.
You know, I mean I'll even use,you know, and I think that there
are absolutely times wherethere's, I mean there's a big
difference between coaching andtherapy, right, um, and I mean
there have been times myselfI've gone to traditional
therapists in my life and Ialways kind of left not
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necessarily feeling like worsethan I got there, but not always
a lot better, um, maybe evenmore frustrated, because maybe
things got brought to thesurface that then didn't get
resolution in that moment.
What are your thoughts on howto know if you need a
traditional therapist or ifmaybe something like
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hypnotherapy or something likethis is a better solution and
option for you?
What are some things to lookfor?
Ally Rose (07:53):
It's hard because I you know there are certain
conditions that hypnotherapy isnot appropriate for someone with
epilepsy.
You know, schizophrenia, anytype of psychosis, delusions,
hallucinations, anything likethat not appropriate for
hypnotherapy.
However, I do, I'm always goingto say that hypnotherapy is a
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viable option and what I thinkcan be really good is that,
because it's intensive and wereally drill down to the root is
you could see a hypnotherapistfor a session and also have a
traditionally trained talktherapist as support to do the
follow-up work with that Right.
So I don't know, I thinkhypnotherapy can be used in any
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moment.
I just think that the resultsgo much deeper and they happen
much faster.
So, like with the traditionallytrained talk therapy, like, I
worked with clients for yearsand, yes, I saw results, but it
was over the span of years.
Amber Annette (08:51):
Right.
Ally Rose (08:51):
With my hypnotherapy clients.
I see results within one tothree sessions.
It's very different.
Amber Annette (08:57):
And that's because hypnotherapy goes to the
root right.
It goes to where those probablylimiting beliefs are really
starting to take root in yoursubconscious right.
Ally Rose (09:10):
Yeah, absolutely, Because those are like the seeds
that were planted so long agothat the roots are very deep for
most of my clients.
I mean, you know 30, 40, 50years of roots.
Amber Annette (09:21):
So how do you know, like, let's say, you're
going on in your life, you'regoing on in your business and
maybe there's just something youcan't overcome, or maybe
there's something you're tryingto achieve and you just can't
seem to achieve it?
How do you start to recognizeif it is in your subconscious,
is if it's in, um, maybe actionsyou're not taking or not taking
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the right actions?
How do you know if it's in yourstrategy, if it's just what
life threw you Like, how do youreally know it's the
subconscious that is what isholding you back.
Ally Rose (09:56):
What I would say is to me, when you know that it is
a subconscious block, is whenyou have actually tried a lot of
strategy work, you've gone atit at a practical level, you've
seen, maybe you've seen somesuccess right, and then you kind
of find yourself falling backinto some similar patterns and
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behaviors and I will say I callthat the loop right Like it's a
loop, absolutely.
Amber Annette (10:22):
It's a loop that you can kind of get stuck on
where, um, it's almost I've I'vesaid this to my clients before
is this something new or is thisthe here we go again?
And what's so interesting isalmost always the answer is it's
here we go again.
It's, it's the.
You know you've.
I'm sure you've heard the term.
You know new level, same devil.
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You know meaning that, thatsame kind of thorn in the side
same issue.
Ally Rose (10:52):
So it's that's kind of what you're referencing.
Yes, and I will caveat thiswith I think there's a
difference between you know,shiny object syndrome, where you
kind of feel like you know thenext thing is going to save your
business or the next thing isgoing to there's something to be
said about someone who has putin a lot of consistent work,
right?
I'm thinking I have onespecific client who's coming to
my mind and she did a lot ofconsistent work, right, strategy
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work.
She was sticking to her planand she would see these, these,
these peaks and valleys, and itjust felt like she couldn't get
to.
You know, that next level.
So you know she came to me andthat changed everything for our
business.
Amber Annette (11:30):
So I want to stay on this topic of
self-development, switching alittle bit from hypnotherapy,
because just recently I havebeen thinking, having new
thoughts, about how easy it isto get addicted to
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self-development.
And can that addiction of youknow the next book, the next
course, the next thing you needto heal, the next thing that's?
I don't want to broken feelslike kind of a harsh word, but
what are your thoughts on that?
Do you think that there aresome people that it's the act of
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looking for something to bewrong that keeps them in the
state of always needing to like,fix something and do that
self-development work?
Or do you think that maybe weare just always really looking
for the next layer, like that'sjust part of being a human?
Ally Rose (12:30):
I think it's individual, for each person.
I think that absolutely goinginto cycles of personal
development over and over andover again, looking for what's
wrong, can be a form ofself-sabotage, can be a form of
procrastination, it can be afear of really being visible,
right, oh, I'm just going towork on this before I do X,
right, that can be.
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That can be self-sabotaging,right?
That can be a subconsciousblock in and of itself, and I
think that we are alwaysevolving.
I think that you know I lovevisuals of trees and roots, and
so I think that sometimes we doget to a certain level and then
we do need to go deeper becausenew things have presented
themselves.
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Right, we've worked through acertain level and then new
things present themselves for usto work through.
But I think we have to giveourselves the time and space to
integrate and to allow space fornew things to present
themselves.
We're constantly working on thesame thing, right, and feeling
like the same thing, and thatmight be a sign that it is more
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of a procrastination, more of aself-sabotaging behavior.
Amber Annette (13:36):
Yeah, I, um, I love it when I have a new
thought about something, youknow, like something I've never
thought about before.
A new perspective, a shift likethat, it, it tells me that
expansion is happening, my ownpersonal growth that's happening
.
You know, when you have athought you've never had before
and one of the other ones that Irecently, you know, I, I, I
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live my life and run my businessbased on the law of attraction
I always have and I am alwaysvery conscious about thoughts
that I'm thinking because, as wehave always heard, thoughts
create your reality, you know,and I, all of a sudden, the
other day, was like I don't, Idon't think that that's true
anymore.
I think that beliefs create ourreality and there is something
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that beliefs create our realityand there is something, there
was something that, really, whenI had that realization and that
thought not too long ago, Iremember I was sitting right
where I'm sitting now and I waslike holy shit, like that, I've
been so worried about theday-to-day, what I'm thinking
right now, in the moment, versusreally getting deeply into
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those deep roots, those deepbeliefs.
How do you start?
You know, how do you, when youwork with your clients, do you
let your intuition kind of likeguide you to maybe what are the
deepest ones.
Do you kind of start with the E, like I love the, I love the
reference of like roots, flowers, right.
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Do you start with the weeds,the easy ones that can kind of
be pulled quickly and, you know,maybe make everything kind of
look nice but then still work onthe deeper ones?
That got to go deeper?
I'm just curious on this.
Ally Rose (15:22):
Yeah, I mean.
So, basically, when someonecomes to work with me, right,
because when we're working witha subconscious, we're working
with things that we can'tnecessarily access with our
conscious mind, and so I couldsit there and I could talk with
them.
Of course, I have ideas that,as I'm listening to their story,
but what I always tell peopleis let's let your subconscious
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show us.
And so typically, people comein and I prefer to work with
people in sort of like a threeround process, so, and that's
really just because a lot ofpeople aren't used to this
process, and so the first timearound we work with whatever
they're bringing to me.
That's the surface level.
That's the thing, right, andwhen we go in, what we do is we
let our sub, your subconscious,show us like what the belief,
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what the deep rooted belief is,and a lot of times people are
actually surprised, like what itis they don't know.
They didn't know because ifthey knew, then they could do
something about it.
But and then from that sessionwe can go deeper, because
something typically emerges fromthe first session and then we
can work on that, and thensomething typically emerges from
the second and we get to thatreally deep rooted layer of
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things where it's like, okay,we've hit the jack on it.
Does that make sense?
Amber Annette (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, no for sure.
And I have gone.
I worked with a.
I worked with a hypnotherapistbefore um years ago.
It was amazing, and I sometimeswill listen to, like guided,
pre-recorded, you know, like Ibought like a bundle at some
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point of of you know, hypnosissessions, and if there's
something that I'm just notfeeling good about or anxious
about, I'll listen to those,like all night long.
I put my phone literally rightunder my pillow.
I'll listen to those, like allnight long, I put my phone
literally right under my pillow.
Oh, this will be.
This will be curious.
I'm curious to hear what youthink about this.
So I will take my phone and Iwill put it right under my
pillow and listen to that allnight long, cause my phone will
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just continuously play it and Ithink the ones that I have are,
you know, maybe two or threehours long.
So it'll just keep playing, andI usually do.
I don't.
Sometimes it's one of thosethings where I'm like, why don't
I do this every night?
Because I always feel better.
Some, you know like usually Ican see a shift or something you
know manifest, you know rarelyor fairly quickly from from
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doing that.
So do you think things likethat can also be beneficial to
you know, like, listen to themon repeat.
You know, I don't I don't knowhow I feel about affirmations as
much as, um, you know, kind ofit goes, that kind of ties into
you know, it's not just thethoughts you're thinking, it's
not just the things you'resaying, it's more of those
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deeper beliefs which are, youknow, really probably creating
how your, your frequency, howyou're feeling, your, your
energy, your aura, right, likethose are the beliefs are what's
creating that.
So do you think listening toaffirmations, listening to
hypnosis, are as effective?
Can that, can that help?
Can that start with thesubconscious rewiring?
Ally Rose (18:24):
Absolutely.
I mean even before I wasintroduced to RTT, I mean I went
through a divorce and duringthat time part of my process was
writing affirmations and doing.
You know, I call it gratitudein the future, people call it
scripting, things like that.
Amber Annette (18:42):
And.
Ally Rose (18:42):
I was.
I was really, you know,visualizing and writing out what
I wanted my life to look like,and what I was doing was I
recorded, like every.
I recorded pages and pages andpages of these things and I
would listen to those things allthe time, walking in the shower
when I went to bed, and I dobelieve that that actually
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started to shift things within,like who I am as a person.
It allowed me to come out ofthat time period in my life as a
different person.
So I do believe that part of itis, you know, the affirmation.
It's looking at the beliefs.
Part of it is action andstarting to act into.
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You know, if I'm saying thatthis is the person that I want
to be, what does the person thatwants to be that?
What do they do?
So it's not to me, it's not,they're not in isolation.
Like I don't believe that youcan simply read an affirmation,
say an affirmation, and likelife is going to change for you,
like if the deeper rootedbeliefs about yourself are still
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terrible, like it's kind ofjust like you're just like
putting something on top of them.
Right, and I do, and I dobelieve that part of how we
change our perception of who weare is by acting in a different
way.
It starts to really solidify thethings that you're listening to
the new belief, right?
I don't, yeah.
So it's not just like oh,here's an affirmation, I'm going
to say it.
It's like here's an affirmationand then it's like taking it to
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the next level of okay, if Ifully loved and appreciated
myself, how would I show updifferently in my life?
What's one small step I cantake in that direction?
Amber Annette (20:27):
Yeah, I'm always curious when do you think that
most of these deeply rootedbeliefs like really take hold?
I intuitively kind of alwaysget a sense, like for my clients
, right, like I call it.
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I call it psychic hypnosis in away, right Like I feel like I
just kind of can get a generalsense of a timeline of like when
maybe something happened intheir life and it always seems
to be young, like really youngages, you know, I would say
between the age of maybe fourand 10, you know, maybe at the
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most like 12 is where most ofthe things that they're, I feel
like they're stuck on,struggling now started.
Then you know they started, Iguess at least, to take root.
Then what do you think it takesfor something to truly take
root and become that belief,where it's starting to become a
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hindrance, where it's startingto be a block, it's starting to
be a, it's starting to bebecomes part of your identity
and behavior?
Ally Rose (21:40):
Yeah, and I would agree with you.
I think between the ages ofzero to 10 is where most of this
happens, more than anything.
It's so things happen in ourlives and more than anything,
it's the meaning that we make ofthem to me, and I might make
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one meaning about it and you maymake another, but that's really
what I do.
When I go in with my clients andwe, I take them back to three
different scenes that are all todo with the cause, root and
reason for why whatever they arecoming in for.
And we go back to these scenesand the biggest thing is what
were they feeling and what didthey make it mean about
themselves, the world and otherpeople?
And then we connect the dots,because typically there's a
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theme between the three scenes,and then how it's connected to
what's the present issue is, andso, really, more than anything,
it's like what did this causeyou to believe about yourself,
the world and other people?
What did this cause you tobelieve about yourself, the
world and other people?
Now, I can look at their scenesand I might have made different
meaning about that, but theymade this meaning about what
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happened to them, and so,therefore, that is how the
belief got planted in their lifeand so from there, when you get
to that root, then it's do youdo like inner child work on that
?
Amber Annette (23:06):
Do you do you have like your own kind of like
signature way, your proprietaryprocess that you do at that
moment with them?
Ally Rose (23:16):
first, what we do is we go to I mean, it's parts work
we go to the part of them thatcreated this either this block
or this belief and we ask thatpart what's your role, what's
your function, what's yourpurpose, what's your intention?
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And we hone in on, like thispart of you created this belief
or this behavior for a certainpurpose at this time in your
life.
How amazing that you know.
This part of you created thisto protect you right.
To help you in some way.
However, you're no longer fiveyears old and we need to show
this part of you, we need toupgrade it.
We need to show this part ofyou that you're not five years
old.
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And I have people walk through.
Okay, now, how is this belief,how is this behavior, how is it
no longer serving you?
It was then right and we cansee, because it's just told us,
but it's no longer serving youanymore.
So what we do is we ask thepart itself what would it need
in order to feel safe enough toleave?
And if it doesn't want to leavebecause what I find is that
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sometimes protective parts andif they've been protecting us
for a very long time they'rehesitant to leave then we give
it a new role.
We give it, we upgrade it, wegive it I always say we give it
a promotion.
What would be a better job forit to have if it doesn't really
want to?
leave you, if it still wants tostay with you, let's give it a
new role.
And then we go back in and Ihave them as the adult that they
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are now, step back into thescenes and reparent that child
that that whatever happened inthe scene happened to them.
And what do they need to hear,knowing what you know now as an
adult?
Amber Annette (24:55):
Yeah, I, I, I love how you, you know, you tie
that to the meaning thateverybody you know attaches for
themselves, like we could, youknow.
That's why a lot of times youcould have a brother and a
sister that live in the samehouse, experience the same
things and yet remember thingsvery differently, and that's
because they're both attachingdifferent meaning to different
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experiences and circumstancesand people.
So I love the way that you wordthat have another as you were
talking.
Do you think that there is adifference between
self-protection andself-sabotage?
Ally Rose (25:37):
I think that parts of us are always because our
mind's entire job, our brain'sentire job, is to keep us alive,
and so I think thatself-sabotage is a form of
self-protection.
Amber Annette (25:52):
Yeah.
And it just shows updifferently.
I mean, of course, like kind ofin again, like the
self-development space, right,like we hear self-sabotage so
much, the self-development space, right, like we hear
self-sabotage so much, and thatcan kind of be a little kind of
a little scary if you thinkabout it, right, like if you
think, like you know, that feelslike it has a little bit more
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maliciousness to itself-sabotage like you're and it
feels like a little bit morelike self, you know created.
And I think, shifting thelanguage from self-sabotage to,
you know, self-protection, itcan kind of bring, bring the
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energy to not be so fearfulabout doing some of that mindset
work, doing things likehypnosis, in my opinion, because
I mean, I don't think anybodywants to be self-sabotaging,
right, I think it can.
I think that I actually thinkthat causes a lot of fear around
and especially as entrepreneurs, I think, in the space like am
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I self-sabotaging, am I keepingmyself from doing this?
And I think that can take youdown a very different rabbit
hole versus if you're aware thatit's actually just
self-protection and I don't know.
Do you see where I'm going withthat?
Ally Rose (27:24):
we tap into that part and we look at the role,
function, purpose and intention.
That's really what we're doingis I ask every client I say how
do you feel about this part ofyou, the self-sabotaging part?
Often it's like I hate it, Iwant it to go away, it's
blocking me, like all thesethings.
And then by the end, thepurpose of me saying how do you
feel about it at the beginningand then when we get to the end,
once we've asked it what itsrole, function, purpose and
(27:44):
intention is, is to bring somecompassion to that part to see
okay, wow, you've really beentrying to keep me safe.
I understand now why I'm doingthe things that I'm doing, why
this part of me has been doingthis thing, because, at the end
of the day, you've been tryingto keep me safe and that's where
we we thank the part right Fortrying to keep the person safe.
(28:06):
Like, we have a whole kind ofshift around how you feel about
this part of you and that allowsyou to engage with that part of
you differently, moving forward.
Amber Annette (28:15):
Yeah, I know, my very first book that I read as
an entrepreneur was the big leapby Gay Hendricks.
Did you ever, did you ever read?
you ever yeah long long ago,yeah, long, long, long ago.
Well, get it out, dust it offand reread it, cause that's one
of those books I feel like everytime I read it I have like a
new aha awareness.
Uh, you know, I I'm a differentperson every time I read it.
(28:36):
I feel like so.
But that is one thing thatalways just kind of I don't know
there's something about, I'llsay it just kind of gives me the
ick factor when I think ofself-sabotage, like that just
has never felt right.
So I love shifting to thelanguage of, like
self-protection versusself-sabotage.
So what do you think you know?
(28:57):
Are you know, in addition tohypnotherapy, what are you kind
of seeing out there that youknow people are being drawn to
for, like other modalities?
Or you know how can, how canpeople really start focusing?
I feel like mindset is such abroad word, right, like there's
(29:17):
so many different modalities.
But you know what would besomething that would be
complementary to hypnotherapy inyour opinion?
Ally Rose (29:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think anything right.
So basically, with hypnosis,what we're doing is, you know,
and it's totally natural,totally normal, we go in and out
of it all the time, throughoutthe day.
We don't realize it we justdon't call it that, but I think
it's shutting that inner critic,the voice that's always
narrating is really shuttingthat down and allowing space for
(29:49):
other things to get there, solike in there, like more
positive things.
So I think that anything thatcan kind of take you from a
heightened state down into amore grounded state, whether
that's you know down into a moregrounded state, whether that's
you know breath work, whetherthat's just regular meditation,
(30:09):
anything that kind of takes yourstate from a place of like
hyper arousal down, I think isgoing to be helpful to allow you
to see your world differently,allow you to hear things
differently.
Yeah, because so many of us.
If we go back to theself-protection, so many of us
have this part that's inconstant high alert and that's
(30:30):
really when, like, theself-sabotaging or
self-protective behaviors kindof come up, is when we're in a
state of high alert, and so, Ithink, being able to calm your
nervous system down, I thinkthat that helps calm your
nervous system down.
Amber Annette (30:44):
I think that that helps.
Yeah, and again, like thenervous system, I mean we're, I
see so much I pay attention totrends I've hit, you know.
I mean I'm sure you have tohave been in this industry for
over 11 years and to see youknow all the different.
And maybe trend is not theright word, but you know, right
now I'm seeing a lot around thenervous system regulation, um,
(31:10):
and what's interesting aboutthat.
So I was sharing with you thatI did um for years and years.
I've listened to like these.
Hypnosis is at different timesin my life to fall asleep.
And just recently, like withinthe last week, I found something
around, um, it wasn't hypnosis,but it was nervous system
regulation that you could listento.
And I must have woke up I amnot kidding you six or seven
(31:32):
times so angry, listening, and Idon't know what I was listening
to, right, I mean, like, causeI'm sleeping, so I don't know
what it was, but there wasclearly something, as I was
sleeping, that I was listening,that was triggering me and I
would just like wake up here.
I would just like wake up,irritated.
And I didn't kind of connectbecause I'm used to listening to
things as I fall asleep, thatit might've been something
(31:55):
getting stirred up in in inthose particular.
So what do you think about that?
I mean again like I've listenedto hypnosis and never had
anything like that.
So is that maybe an indicatorto stay away, or that there's
something trying to come up?
Ally Rose (32:10):
I mean I would always like advise, like I don't want
to be, like you know, alarmingor dramatic, but I just think I
would always advise, kind oflike you know, if something is
is stirring you up, I mean thatcan be a good thing in some ways
because it maybe brings thingsto the surface.
But if it's like causing you tofeel agitated, then like your
(32:30):
nervous system is not feelingsafe and it might just lead you
into a state of like morehypervigilance.
Amber Annette (32:34):
So yeah, it was interesting.
I was just curious on yourperspective on it because I've
not had that.
I've not, I have not had thatexperience before.
And I mean her, the person thatwas like taking me through it,
she was very calm, like it wasso anyway, I just thought that
was interesting because I dothink that so many people
(32:56):
operate, I know myself, fight orflight, you know, and so to be
able to sometimes even bringthat down, just to get present
enough, you know, to be able tothen even be able to do hypnosis
, you know, I think sometimesyou almost have to get yourself
in the receiving state to beable to receive from any of
(33:16):
these types of mindsetmodalities.
Do you agree with that?
Ally Rose (33:20):
Yeah, I mean, and I find that you can do things that
kind of like that help thatobviously.
like I'm a big fan of bilateraltapping, you know it's something
that is used in EMDR, but youcan just use it just in general
to kind of like bring your, yourstate down.
Yeah, and I think it's like youknow, for me it's kind of like
if we go back to the metaphorshere it's like preparing the
soil so that the seeds can beplanted right.
(33:42):
Like you have to prepareyourself in some ways so that
you're ready to receive that,which is why listening to things
when you're sleeping isactually really great, because
your body is already going intothat relaxed state.
So you have to do a lot lesspreparing.
I often tell my clients tolisten to their custom
recordings that they get from me, either when they first wake up
, because your mind's comingright out of that state, or what
(34:03):
as they're going to sleep,because your mind's going into
that state.
Right, it takes a lot more whenyou're in the middle of your
day and you've maybe had, like ayou know, a fight with one of
your colleagues or something'sgoing on with your kid.
It takes a little bit moregrounding to get into the space
to receive in those states.
Amber Annette (34:18):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I, um, I used to have abeautiful practice of being able
to get really present in themornings.
I call it coffee with theuniverse and, um, I also have
been going through I wentthrough a divorce, so and and
during that like I just I lastalmost kind of the ability to
(34:39):
get really present like that andI miss that.
I, I crave that.
I don't, I sometimes don'tdon't know how to get back to
being able to go that deep andbe that connected, be that
present.
How do do you think thathypnosis is something that can
help you with mindfulness,getting present.
It's not always necessarilysomething to get to, like those
(35:01):
deeper subconscious beliefs, butcan also help you with things
like that.
Ally Rose (35:06):
Yeah, absolutely I mean, because again it goes back
to kind of shutting off thenarrator, shutting off the inner
critic, shutting off the partof you that tells you.
I don't want to say shutting off, but like I think of like a
like a turning down right Justturning that down a little bit
so that you can get a little bitmore present with yourself,
with your thoughts, you know.
So yeah, I think that itdoesn't always have to be about,
(35:27):
like you know, deep rooted work.
It can just be about I want tojust quiet my mind a little bit
so I can be more present.
Amber Annette (35:34):
Yeah, so, and one last question here.
So from a hypnosis perspective,you know, like I shared, I
always listen to it at nightbecause that's what even he says
is like you know, make sureyou're not driving, you know,
make sure you're lying downthroughout your day.
(36:03):
That are more on like thesubliminal level, but aren't
going to make you go to sleep,aren't going to.
You know, can kind of berunning in the background while
you're also active and, you know, going throughout your day, or
are they really best when you'rein a state of being relaxed or
going to sleep, that kind ofthing?
Ally Rose (36:16):
So here's the thing, right.
We live in a very busy, youknow culture, everybody's busy.
I always tell my clients it'sbest you know the track that I
give them.
It's best if you can be sittingor lying down, if you can have
your eyes closed.
However, I never want that tobe a barrier.
(36:38):
I'd rather you listen to therecording at some point
throughout your day, and so Ialways just say do not listen to
it, like while you're doinganything where you could hurt
yourself.
Do not listen to it, you know,while you're driving.
However, if you want to listento it while you're taking a walk
, absolutely Walking in and ofitself is bilateral stimulation.
(36:59):
If you want to listen to itwhile you're doing the dishes,
while you're doing laundry,while you're doing maybe your
morning routine, you know if, ifthat's going to help you listen
to the recording, go for it.
Amber Annette (37:13):
That's what matters.
Ally Rose (37:14):
I always say the best time to listen to it is going
to be whenever you can get intothat state, but I also
understand that not everyone youknow has the ability, depending
on what their lifestyle lookslike, to get into that state
every single day, and so I'drather they listen to it just in
general.
Or I might say, double it uplisten to it in the morning
while you're maybe doing yourmorning routine or walking, and
(37:37):
then, if you can like, listen toit at night while you're making
dinner or something like that,right?
So the point is to just, Ithink, to just listen to it,
right, because the subconsciousmind is always listening, right?
Amber Annette (37:49):
So, yeah, and how do you I know I said one final
question, but as you're talkingahead, I'm I have.
You know, I think I have justalways been so fascinated, from
when I was like a little kid,right, like, even like in high
school, like my favorite classwere always the psychology
classes right, like, this is themind, has just always been so
fascinating to me.
(38:09):
And then, as a psychic, youknow, being able to kind of see
both pieces right, the spiritualside, the energy side, and then
this, how we just need the two,we need the two working
together.
So, anyway, I've always beenfascinated.
So this episode could go onforever.
But my last question to you, Ithink, is Okay, so this might be
(38:35):
the last question um, dependingon the uh, depending on the
answer, but you know so, if you,if you start to do this work
right, you start to work on yoursubconscious, you go through,
you go through hypnosis, you,you go through all these
different modalities, how do youreally know that that belief
(38:55):
has been rewrote?
How do you really know you madethe breakthrough You've had, um
, you're up level, like,whatever you want to call it
Like.
How do you, how do people knowthat?
Ally Rose (39:07):
So I would say that there's two parts to this.
The first is that I always saythat hypnosis hypnotherapy is
about creating more ease in yourlife, and what that means is
that you have less resistance todoing the things that you know
that you want to do.
So that's how you can start totell that there's less noise,
there's less resistance, andthen you see that the behavior
(39:28):
has changed, so it just becomeseasier for you to do the thing
that you want to do.
You don't have to think aboutit, it feels natural Whenever
you do it.
I think that that's how youknow that the belief has been
rewritten.
Amber Annette (39:42):
And, and then I'm also drawn back to like where
you kind of started, where yourpartner even said to you though
you look different, you feeldifferent, something's changed.
So you, there's probably maybelike a lightness that can kind
of come over like that.
I mean, I think sometimes thethings that have been with us
for a long time, they're heavy.
You know, those roots getreally heavy.
Ally Rose (40:02):
Right, absolutely, and so I would say that that as
well, right, you might be ableto feel it, feel a difference.
I have felt the difference inmy own life.
Other people might reflect backto you, like my partner did.
I've had friends reflect me.
You look different, likethere's something different
about your face, about yourcountenance.
Yeah, it's heavy caring oldbeliefs that are no longer
serving you.
(40:23):
So when you release them, whenyou rewrite them, you know you
look lighter, you feel lighter.
Amber Annette (40:29):
Yeah, you know, I have to kind of give myself
like a moment here to rememberhow much work I've done.
I often joke with my friendsabout and my friends often say
to me they're like, are youliving like your best, like
Benjamin Button, life Right,because I just turned 44.
And when I tell you I lookyounger at 44 than I did at 21.
(40:51):
I wholeheartedly like it's,it's, it's incredible to me and
I know I guess I just neverrealized, like until this moment
, that that's probably some ofit, that's probably a lot of it.
It's all of the, the work right, the self-work, the mindset,
(41:13):
work that starts to make youfeel younger, lighter, at ease.
It's not, it's, you know it's.
It's not the other things, it's, you know not the new makeup I
switch to.
It's not that I decided toalways be blonde instead of
brunette.
It's not that I, you know, doit.
(41:34):
It's not that those aren't thethings Right.
It's not.
Oh, where did you get your?
You know, where did you getyour outfit?
It's, it's not right.
I mean, it is really probablythe internal work that shows up
the most on the external.
Ally Rose (41:51):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I always believe that,like, what's inside is always
going to come out in some way,whether it is through the way
that you look, or it's the waythat you interact with people,
or just the way that you show upin the world.
What's going on internally foryou is going to show up somehow
externally.
Right?
So once you shift what'sinternal, what what comes out of
(42:13):
you will shift.
Amber Annette (42:16):
I just I, I love it when I can have, like in an,
like I'm having an in the momenthere perspective shift, right,
like I think it's often thoseexternal things that we look at,
though first are the reasonswhy things are changing.
Now I would say, with like theexception of, like you know your
physical body right, like I'vestarted going to the gym more,
(42:37):
like, of course, that's going tochange my physical body, but
that the energy shift that youcan clearly feel from people, um
, that's that's from doing thatinner, that's from doing the
inner work that comes, that thatcomes from there.
So thank you for that person.
I just I appreciate I alwayslove it when I can be inspired,
(42:59):
when I can have a perspectiveshift, when something like that
happens.
So, um, thank you for thatAwesome.
This was so good, and I knowthat you have something amazing
for our listeners too.
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So, thank you so much.
That's such a generous offerfor our listeners.
I really appreciate that.
Ally Rose (43:54):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Amber Annette (43:57):
All right.
So now it comes to like myfavorite part of of the show,
which is where I get to tap intoyou and give you a business
reading.
Are you ready?
I'm ready, I, um, I want totake just kind of a second here.
I want to tap in.
All right, so let's tap in hereand Okay.
(44:26):
So, um, the first thing that iscoming to me is I see the words
in person and I see a stage.
I see a stage.
(44:50):
I feel like a lot of maybe whatyou have been doing has been
zoom online and there is justsomething telling me that this
is a year.
This is the year for you to domuch more in person, public
speaking.
Anything about that showing upfor you, or has that been on
your agenda or something?
Ooh, actually, or is thatsomething you've been a little
anxious and nervous about?
Is big, bigger stages andspeaking like that?
Ally Rose (45:09):
So it's interesting, it's not in person, but for the
last five years I've wanted todo a podcast and I have just
I've got.
I've stopped right before I gotstarted and I, this weekend,
I'm recording my first episode.
You're doing it.
Amber Annette (45:27):
I also.
So, in addition to that, I feellike maybe an opportunity is
going to be coming your way, orsomething.
Do you live on the East coast?
Your way, or something?
Do you live on the East coast?
Yeah, oh, okay.
So East coast, it feels likesome type of stage, some type of
speaking opportunity.
(45:47):
This is very much on a stage.
Is that something you haven'tdone before?
Ally Rose (45:53):
Not on like a large stage now.
Amber Annette (45:55):
Yeah, so this is, I would say it feels um end of
the summer, mid June.
Maybe the opportunity presentsitself in June, um, and then the
stage is a little bit later,but, um, I think you're going to
surprise yourself at how muchyou really enjoy that.
So that's, that's the that'snumber, so that's the number.
(46:19):
So that's the first thing thatI see.
Well, now that you said podcast, let's tap into her podcast,
please.
Okay, so the first thing thatI'm hearing for you with your
own podcast is don't script it.
(46:43):
If you have been like scriptingor like getting, like thinking
you want to be very specific in,I feel like what?
What the universe is kind ofshowing me for you, allie, is to
just really speak from yourheart, be more.
Don't script it, like maybegive yourself a couple bullet
points.
But if you have been likereally getting into, like deep
(47:07):
nothing, like there's somethingabout just really letting it
float, being very intuitive inthe moment I would say almost in
the moment podcasting, versuslike today's the day that I'm
going to sit down and I'm goingto do it, you get in the
universe, you're gettinginspired thoughts and ideas and
creative content pieces all thetime, and I feel like those are
(47:30):
in the moment, in the moment,messages that are going to.
That's what's going to makeyour podcast super powerful.
Okay your podcast super powerful.
(48:05):
Okay, I are you on Tik TOK?
I'm not.
No, I feel like you have aunique, you have your own unique
way to do.
I want to like almost likequaint it like something really
clever like half a minutehypnosis or like one minute
hypnosis right hypnosis, or likeone minute hypnosis right,
where it's like this, in themoment, quick shift that you can
give people Right.
(48:26):
And if you think about socialmedia, what I'm being shown is
like that's what people arelooking for.
They're looking for these likequick hits, right.
And yet when they experiencethat with you and they have that
with you, they're going to belike click profile, get your you
know maybe current offer orjoin your newsletter, because
(48:50):
that is showing me that's yourloop is you are just keep
talking kind of like to the samepeople, almost like over and
over, that are in your currentspace.
And what I love about I seelike do you have resistance
(49:12):
sometimes to social media?
Ally Rose (49:14):
going live, being yeah, right, just to social
media in general, sometimesbecause I feel like I'm a very
deep person and sometimes socialmedia feels a little too
shallow for me, but I'm makingpeace with it more and more.
Amber Annette (49:30):
So I, literally I need you, I need you to trust
me.
I need you to trust me in thismoment when I tell you that like
I'm really drawn to TikTok forit for some reason, I think it's
interesting you aren't even onTikTok and like that's the
platform that I keep seeing.
And here's why I feel like theability for your like one minute
(49:56):
hypnosis or one minute, oneminute meaning or like remember
earlier you were talking aboutlike getting to the meaning,
like one, one minute to themeaning, or something like coin
it, like there's somethingclever that can come through
from a marketing perspective,but giving those people that
quick aha, awareness perspectiveshift, I think is going to be
(50:21):
amazing for you.
And the other thing is, when Isee you, I see you going live
and being very much again in themoment, saying, if you can take
a break, like take a break withme, have a seat, because I'm
going to take you through aguided, a guided hypnosis
(50:44):
session right now, right here,to a B, c.
You know, overcome this, stopdoing this.
And I feel like you just havethe ability to.
There's like virality there.
You have the, and that's whatthe universe is saying to me.
Is that sometimes what you'resitting there saying you're like
(51:04):
why isn't this, you know, goingto the level that you want?
Or why what?
This is the piece for you, andit's not a coincidence that you
feel the most resistance to it.
Right, because so many peopledo so.
How amazing is it that you canuse your own modality on
yourself to overcome what youmost feel resistance to, that
(51:26):
also most other people feelresistance to, and then go show
up and be like here's proof ofhow this works.
I feel like the inner weavingsof this are what are going to
take you bit Like.
It is this visibility aspect,particularly around being in
your gift and being live withyour gift.
Ally Rose (51:48):
Okay, I love it.
Yeah, that's exciting.
Amber Annette (51:51):
So love it, you're going to do it or love it
, and I'm going to sit with thisAmber.
No, no, no.
Ally Rose (51:56):
Like love it.
Like you tapped into a lot ofthings that I feel like are
already in the works for me,like, like you know, like it's
like they're sitting they'vebeen sitting on this tip and I
feel like you just helped, likebring them forward a little bit
more.
Like, oh okay, you, the little,the little pings that you've
been getting, you're you'regoing in the right direction.
Amber Annette (52:24):
Yeah, and I can.
I feel this last thing that I'mkind of seeing for you is this,
um I'm going to use the wordwavering between help me maybe
what's coming to me?
This wavering between scienceand spirituality, where
sometimes you are like more onthe analytical, practical, um,
(52:51):
science side right, like you'resmart, like you know that side,
and then also there's this otherside of you that believes in
energy and intuition and, um, Ifeel like maybe sometimes I'm
not sure if there's a clash andor if there's, I'm hearing self
(53:18):
like not just self-trust butalso trust in that bigger
universal force, in the, thetrust in higher purpose, higher
calling the universe and reallysurrendering, and really
surrendering to that.
Anything about that come up foryou.
Ally Rose (53:38):
I don't know.
I feel like I'm going to haveto sit with that one a little
bit more.
It's probably more so the factthat the fact that I'm coming
from that traditional therapybackground yeah that's really
what I'm getting is like yeah.
I feel like there's a part ofme that has struggled to really
be seen in, like the morespiritual, even hypnotherapy
(54:00):
being on the fringe because Istill have ties to the
traditional therapy world.
Amber Annette (54:05):
Yes, yes so that's what's coming.
So that's where I'm saying,like science is kind of clashing
, like the two worlds aresometimes clashing, and my
invitation to you from theuniverse is to to surrender more
there, receive more there,allow more there and, more than
anything, trust, trust so muchmore there.
(54:27):
So let's, let's see where thatgoes, let's see Anything,
anything else that you have aspecific question about or want
me to tap into, anything else?
Ally Rose (54:40):
that you have a specific question about or want
me to tap into.
Oh, I don't think so.
I wasn't prepared.
That's okay, ask a question, sothat's okay.
Amber Annette (54:57):
The only.
So, now that I'm like, the onlyother thing is I don't know if
you always get super specific inlike like your niche of, like
who you serve or who you workwith or how you help individuals
, if it's always moreentrepreneurial or I know it
said like wealth and wisdom fromwithin.
The only other thing I'm goingto kind of give you to think
about and maybe this issomething that'll start showing
up is fertility, which is reallyinteresting, yeah, and I don't
(55:23):
know if that is specifically foryou or if that is specifically
for helping people be able touse hypnosis for fertility.
But the universe is showing methe image of a sea turtle, and
so be aware of that.
If that shows up in your space,in your that's not a typical
(55:43):
sign that I ever get.
So I mean that's prettysignificant, like that's pretty
specific.
So if there's ever somethingthat you see about a sea turtle,
know that the universe istrying to kind of guide you and
saying don't forget, like youhave the ability to, I think,
help people with hypnosis andyour gifts from a fertility
perspective.
Ally Rose (56:02):
Very interesting.
Amber Annette (56:03):
Yeah, yeah, okay, ever felt anything about like
fertility.
Ally Rose (56:06):
Well, yeah, I've helped.
Um, I had a client who, uh, wehad one session and she got
pregnant after two years ofinfertility.
Oh my, gosh.
Amber Annette (56:15):
Okay, so that could definitely be, maybe just
something that you're uniquelyable to activate within people.
So in such a beautiful gift,which is so interesting though.
Ally Rose (56:26):
So I will say this.
So, and then you know, I haveworked with other women.
You know, and I think what cameup for me?
There's been some heartbreak ofnot being successful in it.
And so I think I kind of waslike I don't know that I can do
that.
I don't know that I can walkthat walk with people, because
it's such a devastating like.
It's different than like a,it's different than something
(56:49):
more general.
Amber Annette (56:50):
Absolutely so it's.
Ally Rose (56:51):
it's interesting that you say that, cause I kind of
feel like I wrote that area oflike hypnosis and hypnotherapy
off, because after you knowexperiencing, you know a
heartbreak with someone, um.
So it's interesting that youbring it up.
Amber Annette (57:08):
I, I, I think it'll be interesting to see what
unfolds for you, what comes foryou from that kind of maybe
being brought back into yourawareness.
Um, I kind of was sensing itwas more from the ability to
help people for sure.
Um, so we'll, we'll see.
Here's what I can tell you.
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I have been doing thesebusiness readings on this
podcast for, uh, a year and ahalf and when I tell you, people
are coming back, like even ayear after being a guest on here
and they're like, oh my gosh,you said this, I can't even
believe.
Like you said this, this hashappened.
Like, sometimes these things,just like anything, take a
little bit of time to take root.
(57:50):
So you'll have to make sure youcome back and you tell me, you
tell our guests, like, if someof these things happen, if you
get the speaking gig, if some ofthese things about you know,
maybe specializing or having aunique aspect of your business
with fertility, actually comeinto fruition.
I'm always fascinated to see soyeah.
Well, thank you so much, too,for being here.
Yeah, this was great.
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I know my audience is going tolove it.
I enjoyed every second, and I'mjust so grateful that you had
the ability and time to come andshare this with us.
So thank you so much, Allie,and to all of my listeners.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
And now it's your turn.
Go be in your gift.
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Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
I'm Amber Annette, your host,and I am so excited to share
with you one of my previousclients, allie Rose.
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It's always so exciting to havesomebody I have actually worked
with before on the show,especially to reflect on how far
they have come and what theyare now doing out in the world.
So I'm excited to introduce youto Allie Rose.
She is a certified clinicalhypnotherapist and coach who
helps her clients get to theroot of and rewire their
self-sabotaging behaviors andsubconscious blocks so that they
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can create wealth, worth andwellness from within.
I absolutely am so excited totalk about hypnotherapy, the
subconscious, all of thesethings.
I've always been so interested,so fascinated, and work with my
own clients on these topics.
So, allie girl, let's get intoit Welcome.
Ally Rose (01:47):
Thank you so much for having me, Amber.
I'm so excited to be here withyou.
Amber Annette (01:51):
And we were just talking, I think.
I think we landed on the number.
Like it's been eight years orso, maybe around then, since,
like we've connected and sincewe work together.
So it's so wonderful to see youout in the world still bringing
your gifts to the world.
I it just I love it when I seemy past clients having so much
success.
So I'm so excited to have youhere and and so just kind of
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catch me up and share with myaudience what me hypnotherapy
like I know you used to be kindof more of that like traditional
therapist hypnotherapy Like Iknow you used to be kind of more
of that like traditionaltherapist.
So what made you kind of makethe switch?
Or let's get into it.
Ally Rose (02:34):
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I've always beensomeone who I would say, has
been on the fringe of thetraditional therapy world.
I was doing video sessionsbefore COVID, like you know,
when people were laughing at melike what do you mean?
You're doing video sessions,all of that.
And so I've always exploreddifferent modalities within,
like, the therapeutic space, gotcoach training in 2013.
You know, so I'm always lookingfor ways, just like personally,
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for myself, to take things tothe next level, to make things
easier and also for my clients.
I'm always the guinea pig.
I try things on myself firstand then I bring them to my
clients.
So what happened withhypnotherapy was I for my
lifetime, I struggled withlevels of depression at times
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sometimes would dip into verylow spaces, and I did talk
therapy myself and it definitelyhelps.
However, I kept feeling like Iwas running into this wall.
I kept thinking why am I notable to get over this depression
?
And so I had been followingMarissa Peer and I did a few RTT
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it's called RTT hypnotherapy.
I did a few RTT it's called RTThypnotherapy.
Yeah, I did a few RTT sessionsfor myself and let me tell you,
my partner looked at me and saidafter the third one.
She was like I don't know likewhat happened to you, but you
are a completely differentperson.
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Like you look different, youfeel different, and I could feel
it within myself.
I could feel that something hadshifted so dramatically within
me, like a layer had been peeledoff, like I could feel it in my
body that something had shifted.
So I decided that I wanted totrain in RTT.
I wanted to bring the sameexperience that I had with
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clients, which was they wereseeing results, but I wanted
them to feel this like wow, Ifeel different, like I look
different, you know, into theirlives as well.
So that's kind of what led methere.
Amber Annette (04:37):
Okay, and so how?
What is that process like toget you know?
I mean, if you're in the, let'ssay, online development,
personal development space,right, we see lots of
certifications, what is to getcertified like in hypnotherapy,
kind of what?
What is that process like?
Ally Rose (04:56):
Yeah, I mean it's a very lengthy process.
You know you do modules, ofcourse, learning modules as
you're learning the technique.
So, bit by bit, you're learningdifferent pieces of the
technique.
You're also doing virtualclassrooms, which is where you
spend four hours with trainersand people from all over the
world practicing the things thatyou're learning and then, to
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complete it, you have to do apractical assessment or a
knowledge assessment, which iswhere you take an exam, and then
you also have to do a practicalassessment or a knowledge
assessment, which is where youtake an exam, and then you also
have to do a practicalassessment, where you actually
do a session on a fellowpractitioner and someone from
the school is actually likewatching you, observing you as
you do the session.
You know, to make sure that like, yeah, you have actually like
learned how to do them, you paidattention, right, right, right,
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like they're not going to sendyou off into the just like okay,
great, you've like passed yourtest and now you know I love
that about it Because, obviously, as a therapist, I went through
, you know, six years oftraining, and so that's
something that I actually reallyliked and appreciated was that
there was somebody who wasactually kind of observing
people making sure you weredoing it accurately, right
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Before you go out and do thisprocess with people.
So yeah, so it took me.
I would say I think I completedin about nine months.
Um, yeah, I completed aboutnine months much different than
six years.
Yeah so much different, butmuch more intensive.
Amber Annette (06:19):
So yeah, I was just going to say.
So let's and I don't want toslam at all the benefits of
traditional therapy, right Um.
However, I am just seeing somany more people be drawn to
alternative modalities, versusjust that traditional talk
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therapy where you go in once aweek or biweekly see a therapist
, you kind of unload and thenwashrooms, repeat kind of week
after week or, you know, sessionafter session, ultimately to
kind of feel most often I don'twant to say always, but most
often like there's not anyprogress, like there's not any
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change or growth.
You know, I mean I'll even use,you know, and I think that there
are absolutely times wherethere's, I mean there's a big
difference between coaching andtherapy, right, um, and I mean
there have been times myselfI've gone to traditional
therapists in my life and Ialways kind of left not
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necessarily feeling like worsethan I got there, but not always
a lot better, um, maybe evenmore frustrated, because maybe
things got brought to thesurface that then didn't get
resolution in that moment.
What are your thoughts on howto know if you need a
traditional therapist or ifmaybe something like
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hypnotherapy or something likethis is a better solution and
option for you?
What are some things to lookfor?
Ally Rose (07:53):
It's hard because I you know there are certain
conditions that hypnotherapy isnot appropriate for someone with
epilepsy.
You know, schizophrenia, anytype of psychosis, delusions,
hallucinations, anything likethat not appropriate for
hypnotherapy.
However, I do, I'm always goingto say that hypnotherapy is a
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viable option and what I thinkcan be really good is that,
because it's intensive and wereally drill down to the root is
you could see a hypnotherapistfor a session and also have a
traditionally trained talktherapist as support to do the
follow-up work with that Right.
So I don't know, I thinkhypnotherapy can be used in any
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moment.
I just think that the resultsgo much deeper and they happen
much faster.
So, like with the traditionallytrained talk therapy, like, I
worked with clients for yearsand, yes, I saw results, but it
was over the span of years.
Amber Annette (08:51):
Right.
Ally Rose (08:51):
With my hypnotherapy clients.
I see results within one tothree sessions.
It's very different.
Amber Annette (08:57):
And that's because hypnotherapy goes to the
root right.
It goes to where those probablylimiting beliefs are really
starting to take root in yoursubconscious right.
Ally Rose (09:10):
Yeah, absolutely, Because those are like the seeds
that were planted so long agothat the roots are very deep for
most of my clients.
I mean, you know 30, 40, 50years of roots.
Amber Annette (09:21):
So how do you know, like, let's say, you're
going on in your life, you'regoing on in your business and
maybe there's just something youcan't overcome, or maybe
there's something you're tryingto achieve and you just can't
seem to achieve it?
How do you start to recognizeif it is in your subconscious,
is if it's in, um, maybe actionsyou're not taking or not taking
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the right actions?
How do you know if it's in yourstrategy, if it's just what
life threw you Like, how do youreally know it's the
subconscious that is what isholding you back.
Ally Rose (09:56):
What I would say is to me, when you know that it is
a subconscious block, is whenyou have actually tried a lot of
strategy work, you've gone atit at a practical level, you've
seen, maybe you've seen somesuccess right, and then you kind
of find yourself falling backinto some similar patterns and
(10:17):
behaviors and I will say I callthat the loop right Like it's a
loop, absolutely.
Amber Annette (10:22):
It's a loop that you can kind of get stuck on
where, um, it's almost I've I'vesaid this to my clients before
is this something new or is thisthe here we go again?
And what's so interesting isalmost always the answer is it's
here we go again.
It's, it's the.
You know you've.
I'm sure you've heard the term.
You know new level, same devil.
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You know meaning that, thatsame kind of thorn in the side
same issue.
Ally Rose (10:52):
So it's that's kind of what you're referencing.
Yes, and I will caveat thiswith I think there's a
difference between you know,shiny object syndrome, where you
kind of feel like you know thenext thing is going to save your
business or the next thing isgoing to there's something to be
said about someone who has putin a lot of consistent work,
right?
I'm thinking I have onespecific client who's coming to
my mind and she did a lot ofconsistent work, right, strategy
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work.
She was sticking to her planand she would see these, these,
these peaks and valleys, and itjust felt like she couldn't get
to.
You know, that next level.
So you know she came to me andthat changed everything for our
business.
Amber Annette (11:30):
So I want to stay on this topic of
self-development, switching alittle bit from hypnotherapy,
because just recently I havebeen thinking, having new
thoughts, about how easy it isto get addicted to
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self-development.
And can that addiction of youknow the next book, the next
course, the next thing you needto heal, the next thing that's?
I don't want to broken feelslike kind of a harsh word, but
what are your thoughts on that?
Do you think that there aresome people that it's the act of
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looking for something to bewrong that keeps them in the
state of always needing to like,fix something and do that
self-development work?
Or do you think that maybe weare just always really looking
for the next layer, like that'sjust part of being a human?
Ally Rose (12:30):
I think it's individual, for each person.
I think that absolutely goinginto cycles of personal
development over and over andover again, looking for what's
wrong, can be a form ofself-sabotage, can be a form of
procrastination, it can be afear of really being visible,
right, oh, I'm just going towork on this before I do X,
right, that can be.
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That can be self-sabotaging,right?
That can be a subconsciousblock in and of itself, and I
think that we are alwaysevolving.
I think that you know I lovevisuals of trees and roots, and
so I think that sometimes we doget to a certain level and then
we do need to go deeper becausenew things have presented
themselves.
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Right, we've worked through acertain level and then new
things present themselves for usto work through.
But I think we have to giveourselves the time and space to
integrate and to allow space fornew things to present
themselves.
We're constantly working on thesame thing, right, and feeling
like the same thing, and thatmight be a sign that it is more
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of a procrastination, more of aself-sabotaging behavior.
Amber Annette (13:36):
Yeah, I, um, I love it when I have a new
thought about something, youknow, like something I've never
thought about before.
A new perspective, a shift likethat, it, it tells me that
expansion is happening, my ownpersonal growth that's happening
.
You know, when you have athought you've never had before
and one of the other ones that Irecently, you know, I, I, I
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live my life and run my businessbased on the law of attraction
I always have and I am alwaysvery conscious about thoughts
that I'm thinking because, as wehave always heard, thoughts
create your reality, you know,and I, all of a sudden, the
other day, was like I don't, Idon't think that that's true
anymore.
I think that beliefs create ourreality and there is something
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that beliefs create our realityand there is something, there
was something that, really, whenI had that realization and that
thought not too long ago, Iremember I was sitting right
where I'm sitting now and I waslike holy shit, like that, I've
been so worried about theday-to-day, what I'm thinking
right now, in the moment, versusreally getting deeply into
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those deep roots, those deepbeliefs.
How do you start?
You know, how do you, when youwork with your clients, do you
let your intuition kind of likeguide you to maybe what are the
deepest ones.
Do you kind of start with the E, like I love the, I love the
reference of like roots, flowers, right.
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Do you start with the weeds,the easy ones that can kind of
be pulled quickly and, you know,maybe make everything kind of
look nice but then still work onthe deeper ones?
That got to go deeper?
I'm just curious on this.
Ally Rose (15:22):
Yeah, I mean.
So, basically, when someonecomes to work with me, right,
because when we're working witha subconscious, we're working
with things that we can'tnecessarily access with our
conscious mind, and so I couldsit there and I could talk with
them.
Of course, I have ideas that,as I'm listening to their story,
but what I always tell peopleis let's let your subconscious
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show us.
And so typically, people comein and I prefer to work with
people in sort of like a threeround process, so, and that's
really just because a lot ofpeople aren't used to this
process, and so the first timearound we work with whatever
they're bringing to me.
That's the surface level.
That's the thing, right, andwhen we go in, what we do is we
let our sub, your subconscious,show us like what the belief,
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what the deep rooted belief is,and a lot of times people are
actually surprised, like what itis they don't know.
They didn't know because ifthey knew, then they could do
something about it.
But and then from that sessionwe can go deeper, because
something typically emerges fromthe first session and then we
can work on that, and thensomething typically emerges from
the second and we get to thatreally deep rooted layer of
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things where it's like, okay,we've hit the jack on it.
Does that make sense?
Amber Annette (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, no for sure.
And I have gone.
I worked with a.
I worked with a hypnotherapistbefore um years ago.
It was amazing, and I sometimeswill listen to, like guided,
pre-recorded, you know, like Ibought like a bundle at some
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point of of you know, hypnosissessions, and if there's
something that I'm just notfeeling good about or anxious
about, I'll listen to those,like all night long.
I put my phone literally rightunder my pillow.
I'll listen to those, like allnight long, I put my phone
literally right under my pillow.
Oh, this will be.
This will be curious.
I'm curious to hear what youthink about this.
So I will take my phone and Iwill put it right under my
pillow and listen to that allnight long, cause my phone will
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just continuously play it and Ithink the ones that I have are,
you know, maybe two or threehours long.
So it'll just keep playing, andI usually do.
I don't.
Sometimes it's one of thosethings where I'm like, why don't
I do this every night?
Because I always feel better.
Some, you know like usually Ican see a shift or something you
know manifest, you know rarelyor fairly quickly from from
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doing that.
So do you think things likethat can also be beneficial to
you know, like, listen to themon repeat.
You know, I don't I don't knowhow I feel about affirmations as
much as, um, you know, kind ofit goes, that kind of ties into
you know, it's not just thethoughts you're thinking, it's
not just the things you'resaying, it's more of those
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deeper beliefs which are, youknow, really probably creating
how your, your frequency, howyou're feeling, your, your
energy, your aura, right, likethose are the beliefs are what's
creating that.
So do you think listening toaffirmations, listening to
hypnosis, are as effective?
Can that, can that help?
Can that start with thesubconscious rewiring?
Ally Rose (18:24):
Absolutely.
I mean even before I wasintroduced to RTT, I mean I went
through a divorce and duringthat time part of my process was
writing affirmations and doing.
You know, I call it gratitudein the future, people call it
scripting, things like that.
Amber Annette (18:42):
And.
Ally Rose (18:42):
I was.
I was really, you know,visualizing and writing out what
I wanted my life to look like,and what I was doing was I
recorded, like every.
I recorded pages and pages andpages of these things and I
would listen to those things allthe time, walking in the shower
when I went to bed, and I dobelieve that that actually
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started to shift things within,like who I am as a person.
It allowed me to come out ofthat time period in my life as a
different person.
So I do believe that part of itis, you know, the affirmation.
It's looking at the beliefs.
Part of it is action andstarting to act into.
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You know, if I'm saying thatthis is the person that I want
to be, what does the person thatwants to be that?
What do they do?
So it's not to me, it's not,they're not in isolation.
Like I don't believe that youcan simply read an affirmation,
say an affirmation, and likelife is going to change for you,
like if the deeper rootedbeliefs about yourself are still
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terrible, like it's kind ofjust like you're just like
putting something on top of them.
Right, and I do, and I dobelieve that part of how we
change our perception of who weare is by acting in a different
way.
It starts to really solidify thethings that you're listening to
the new belief, right?
I don't, yeah.
So it's not just like oh,here's an affirmation, I'm going
to say it.
It's like here's an affirmationand then it's like taking it to
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the next level of okay, if Ifully loved and appreciated
myself, how would I show updifferently in my life?
What's one small step I cantake in that direction?
Amber Annette (20:27):
Yeah, I'm always curious when do you think that
most of these deeply rootedbeliefs like really take hold?
I intuitively kind of alwaysget a sense, like for my clients
, right, like I call it.
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I call it psychic hypnosis in away, right Like I feel like I
just kind of can get a generalsense of a timeline of like when
maybe something happened intheir life and it always seems
to be young, like really youngages, you know, I would say
between the age of maybe fourand 10, you know, maybe at the
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most like 12 is where most ofthe things that they're, I feel
like they're stuck on,struggling now started.
Then you know they started, Iguess at least, to take root.
Then what do you think it takesfor something to truly take
root and become that belief,where it's starting to become a
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hindrance, where it's startingto be a block, it's starting to
be a, it's starting to bebecomes part of your identity
and behavior?
Ally Rose (21:40):
Yeah, and I would agree with you.
I think between the ages ofzero to 10 is where most of this
happens, more than anything.
It's so things happen in ourlives and more than anything,
it's the meaning that we make ofthem to me, and I might make
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one meaning about it and you maymake another, but that's really
what I do.
When I go in with my clients andwe, I take them back to three
different scenes that are all todo with the cause, root and
reason for why whatever they arecoming in for.
And we go back to these scenesand the biggest thing is what
were they feeling and what didthey make it mean about
themselves, the world and otherpeople?
And then we connect the dots,because typically there's a
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theme between the three scenes,and then how it's connected to
what's the present issue is, andso, really, more than anything,
it's like what did this causeyou to believe about yourself,
the world and other people?
What did this cause you tobelieve about yourself, the
world and other people?
Now, I can look at their scenesand I might have made different
meaning about that, but theymade this meaning about what
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happened to them, and so,therefore, that is how the
belief got planted in their lifeand so from there, when you get
to that root, then it's do youdo like inner child work on that
?
Amber Annette (23:06):
Do you do you have like your own kind of like
signature way, your proprietaryprocess that you do at that
moment with them?
Ally Rose (23:16):
first, what we do is we go to I mean, it's parts work
we go to the part of them thatcreated this either this block
or this belief and we ask thatpart what's your role, what's
your function, what's yourpurpose, what's your intention?
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And we hone in on, like thispart of you created this belief
or this behavior for a certainpurpose at this time in your
life.
How amazing that you know.
This part of you created thisto protect you right.
To help you in some way.
However, you're no longer fiveyears old and we need to show
this part of you, we need toupgrade it.
We need to show this part ofyou that you're not five years
old.
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And I have people walk through.
Okay, now, how is this belief,how is this behavior, how is it
no longer serving you?
It was then right and we cansee, because it's just told us,
but it's no longer serving youanymore.
So what we do is we ask thepart itself what would it need
in order to feel safe enough toleave?
And if it doesn't want to leavebecause what I find is that
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sometimes protective parts andif they've been protecting us
for a very long time they'rehesitant to leave then we give
it a new role.
We give it, we upgrade it, wegive it I always say we give it
a promotion.
What would be a better job forit to have if it doesn't really
want to?
leave you, if it still wants tostay with you, let's give it a
new role.
And then we go back in and Ihave them as the adult that they
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are now, step back into thescenes and reparent that child
that that whatever happened inthe scene happened to them.
And what do they need to hear,knowing what you know now as an
adult?
Amber Annette (24:55):
Yeah, I, I, I love how you, you know, you tie
that to the meaning thateverybody you know attaches for
themselves, like we could, youknow.
That's why a lot of times youcould have a brother and a
sister that live in the samehouse, experience the same
things and yet remember thingsvery differently, and that's
because they're both attachingdifferent meaning to different
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experiences and circumstancesand people.
So I love the way that you wordthat have another as you were
talking.
Do you think that there is adifference between
self-protection andself-sabotage?
Ally Rose (25:37):
I think that parts of us are always because our
mind's entire job, our brain'sentire job, is to keep us alive,
and so I think thatself-sabotage is a form of
self-protection.
Amber Annette (25:52):
Yeah.
And it just shows updifferently.
I mean, of course, like kind ofin again, like the
self-development space, right,like we hear self-sabotage so
much, the self-development space, right, like we hear
self-sabotage so much, and thatcan kind of be a little kind of
a little scary if you thinkabout it, right, like if you
think, like you know, that feelslike it has a little bit more
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maliciousness to itself-sabotage like you're and it
feels like a little bit morelike self, you know created.
And I think, shifting thelanguage from self-sabotage to,
you know, self-protection, itcan kind of bring, bring the
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energy to not be so fearfulabout doing some of that mindset
work, doing things likehypnosis, in my opinion, because
I mean, I don't think anybodywants to be self-sabotaging,
right, I think it can.
I think that I actually thinkthat causes a lot of fear around
and especially as entrepreneurs, I think, in the space like am
(26:57):
I self-sabotaging, am I keepingmyself from doing this?
And I think that can take youdown a very different rabbit
hole versus if you're aware thatit's actually just
self-protection and I don't know.
Do you see where I'm going withthat?
Ally Rose (27:24):
we tap into that part and we look at the role,
function, purpose and intention.
That's really what we're doingis I ask every client I say how
do you feel about this part ofyou, the self-sabotaging part?
Often it's like I hate it, Iwant it to go away, it's
blocking me, like all thesethings.
And then by the end, thepurpose of me saying how do you
feel about it at the beginningand then when we get to the end,
once we've asked it what itsrole, function, purpose and
(27:44):
intention is, is to bring somecompassion to that part to see
okay, wow, you've really beentrying to keep me safe.
I understand now why I'm doingthe things that I'm doing, why
this part of me has been doingthis thing, because, at the end
of the day, you've been tryingto keep me safe and that's where
we we thank the part right Fortrying to keep the person safe.
(28:06):
Like, we have a whole kind ofshift around how you feel about
this part of you and that allowsyou to engage with that part of
you differently, moving forward.
Amber Annette (28:15):
Yeah, I know, my very first book that I read as
an entrepreneur was the big leapby Gay Hendricks.
Did you ever, did you ever read?
you ever yeah long long ago,yeah, long, long, long ago.
Well, get it out, dust it offand reread it, cause that's one
of those books I feel like everytime I read it I have like a
new aha awareness.
Uh, you know, I I'm a differentperson every time I read it.
(28:36):
I feel like so.
But that is one thing thatalways just kind of I don't know
there's something about, I'llsay it just kind of gives me the
ick factor when I think ofself-sabotage, like that just
has never felt right.
So I love shifting to thelanguage of, like
self-protection versusself-sabotage.
So what do you think you know?
(28:57):
Are you know, in addition tohypnotherapy, what are you kind
of seeing out there that youknow people are being drawn to
for, like other modalities?
Or you know how can, how canpeople really start focusing?
I feel like mindset is such abroad word, right, like there's
(29:17):
so many different modalities.
But you know what would besomething that would be
complementary to hypnotherapy inyour opinion?
Ally Rose (29:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think anything right.
So basically, with hypnosis,what we're doing is, you know,
and it's totally natural,totally normal, we go in and out
of it all the time, throughoutthe day.
We don't realize it we justdon't call it that, but I think
it's shutting that inner critic,the voice that's always
narrating is really shuttingthat down and allowing space for
(29:49):
other things to get there, solike in there, like more
positive things.
So I think that anything thatcan kind of take you from a
heightened state down into amore grounded state, whether
that's you know down into a moregrounded state, whether that's
you know breath work, whetherthat's just regular meditation,
(30:09):
anything that kind of takes yourstate from a place of like
hyper arousal down, I think isgoing to be helpful to allow you
to see your world differently,allow you to hear things
differently.
Yeah, because so many of us.
If we go back to theself-protection, so many of us
have this part that's inconstant high alert and that's
(30:30):
really when, like, theself-sabotaging or
self-protective behaviors kindof come up, is when we're in a
state of high alert, and so, Ithink, being able to calm your
nervous system down, I thinkthat that helps calm your
nervous system down.
Amber Annette (30:44):
I think that that helps.
Yeah, and again, like thenervous system, I mean we're, I
see so much I pay attention totrends I've hit, you know.
I mean I'm sure you have tohave been in this industry for
over 11 years and to see youknow all the different.
And maybe trend is not theright word, but you know, right
now I'm seeing a lot around thenervous system regulation, um,
(31:10):
and what's interesting aboutthat.
So I was sharing with you thatI did um for years and years.
I've listened to like these.
Hypnosis is at different timesin my life to fall asleep.
And just recently, like withinthe last week, I found something
around, um, it wasn't hypnosis,but it was nervous system
regulation that you could listento.
And I must have woke up I amnot kidding you six or seven
(31:32):
times so angry, listening, and Idon't know what I was listening
to, right, I mean, like, causeI'm sleeping, so I don't know
what it was, but there wasclearly something, as I was
sleeping, that I was listening,that was triggering me and I
would just like wake up here.
I would just like wake up,irritated.
And I didn't kind of connectbecause I'm used to listening to
things as I fall asleep, thatit might've been something
(31:55):
getting stirred up in in inthose particular.
So what do you think about that?
I mean again like I've listenedto hypnosis and never had
anything like that.
So is that maybe an indicatorto stay away, or that there's
something trying to come up?
Ally Rose (32:10):
I mean I would always like advise, like I don't want
to be, like you know, alarmingor dramatic, but I just think I
would always advise, kind oflike you know, if something is
is stirring you up, I mean thatcan be a good thing in some ways
because it maybe brings thingsto the surface.
But if it's like causing you tofeel agitated, then like your
(32:30):
nervous system is not feelingsafe and it might just lead you
into a state of like morehypervigilance.
Amber Annette (32:34):
So yeah, it was interesting.
I was just curious on yourperspective on it because I've
not had that.
I've not, I have not had thatexperience before.
And I mean her, the person thatwas like taking me through it,
she was very calm, like it wasso anyway, I just thought that
was interesting because I dothink that so many people
(32:56):
operate, I know myself, fight orflight, you know, and so to be
able to sometimes even bringthat down, just to get present
enough, you know, to be able tothen even be able to do hypnosis
, you know, I think sometimesyou almost have to get yourself
in the receiving state to beable to receive from any of
(33:16):
these types of mindsetmodalities.
Do you agree with that?
Ally Rose (33:20):
Yeah, I mean, and I find that you can do things that
kind of like that help thatobviously.
like I'm a big fan of bilateraltapping, you know it's something
that is used in EMDR, but youcan just use it just in general
to kind of like bring your, yourstate down.
Yeah, and I think it's like youknow, for me it's kind of like
if we go back to the metaphorshere it's like preparing the
soil so that the seeds can beplanted right.
(33:42):
Like you have to prepareyourself in some ways so that
you're ready to receive that,which is why listening to things
when you're sleeping isactually really great, because
your body is already going intothat relaxed state.
So you have to do a lot lesspreparing.
I often tell my clients tolisten to their custom
recordings that they get from me, either when they first wake up
, because your mind's comingright out of that state, or what
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as they're going to sleep,because your mind's going into
that state.
Right, it takes a lot more whenyou're in the middle of your
day and you've maybe had, like ayou know, a fight with one of
your colleagues or something'sgoing on with your kid.
It takes a little bit moregrounding to get into the space
to receive in those states.
Amber Annette (34:18):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I, um, I used to have abeautiful practice of being able
to get really present in themornings.
I call it coffee with theuniverse and, um, I also have
been going through I wentthrough a divorce, so and and
during that like I just I lastalmost kind of the ability to
(34:39):
get really present like that andI miss that.
I, I crave that.
I don't, I sometimes don'tdon't know how to get back to
being able to go that deep andbe that connected, be that
present.
How do do you think thathypnosis is something that can
help you with mindfulness,getting present.
It's not always necessarilysomething to get to, like those
(35:01):
deeper subconscious beliefs, butcan also help you with things
like that.
Ally Rose (35:06):
Yeah, absolutely I mean, because again it goes back
to kind of shutting off thenarrator, shutting off the inner
critic, shutting off the partof you that tells you.
I don't want to say shutting off, but like I think of like a
like a turning down right Justturning that down a little bit
so that you can get a little bitmore present with yourself,
with your thoughts, you know.
So yeah, I think that itdoesn't always have to be about,
(35:27):
like you know, deep rooted work.
It can just be about I want tojust quiet my mind a little bit
so I can be more present.
Amber Annette (35:34):
Yeah, so, and one last question here.
So from a hypnosis perspective,you know, like I shared, I
always listen to it at nightbecause that's what even he says
is like you know, make sureyou're not driving, you know,
make sure you're lying downthroughout your day.
(36:03):
That are more on like thesubliminal level, but aren't
going to make you go to sleep,aren't going to.
You know, can kind of berunning in the background while
you're also active and, you know, going throughout your day, or
are they really best when you'rein a state of being relaxed or
going to sleep, that kind ofthing?
Ally Rose (36:16):
So here's the thing, right.
We live in a very busy, youknow culture, everybody's busy.
I always tell my clients it'sbest you know the track that I
give them.
It's best if you can be sittingor lying down, if you can have
your eyes closed.
However, I never want that tobe a barrier.
(36:38):
I'd rather you listen to therecording at some point
throughout your day, and so Ialways just say do not listen to
it, like while you're doinganything where you could hurt
yourself.
Do not listen to it, you know,while you're driving.
However, if you want to listento it while you're taking a walk
, absolutely Walking in and ofitself is bilateral stimulation.
(36:59):
If you want to listen to itwhile you're doing the dishes,
while you're doing laundry,while you're doing maybe your
morning routine, you know if, ifthat's going to help you listen
to the recording, go for it.
Amber Annette (37:13):
That's what matters.
Ally Rose (37:14):
I always say the best time to listen to it is going
to be whenever you can get intothat state, but I also
understand that not everyone youknow has the ability, depending
on what their lifestyle lookslike, to get into that state
every single day, and so I'drather they listen to it just in
general.
Or I might say, double it uplisten to it in the morning
while you're maybe doing yourmorning routine or walking, and
(37:37):
then, if you can like, listen toit at night while you're making
dinner or something like that,right?
So the point is to just, Ithink, to just listen to it,
right, because the subconsciousmind is always listening, right?
Amber Annette (37:49):
So, yeah, and how do you I know I said one final
question, but as you're talkingahead, I'm I have.
You know, I think I have justalways been so fascinated, from
when I was like a little kid,right, like, even like in high
school, like my favorite classwere always the psychology
classes right, like, this is themind, has just always been so
fascinating to me.
(38:09):
And then, as a psychic, youknow, being able to kind of see
both pieces right, the spiritualside, the energy side, and then
this, how we just need the two,we need the two working
together.
So, anyway, I've always beenfascinated.
So this episode could go onforever.
But my last question to you, Ithink, is Okay, so this might be
(38:35):
the last question um, dependingon the uh, depending on the
answer, but you know so, if you,if you start to do this work
right, you start to work on yoursubconscious, you go through,
you go through hypnosis, you,you go through all these
different modalities, how do youreally know that that belief
(38:55):
has been rewrote?
How do you really know you madethe breakthrough You've had, um
, you're up level, like,whatever you want to call it
Like.
How do you, how do people knowthat?
Ally Rose (39:07):
So I would say that there's two parts to this.
The first is that I always saythat hypnosis hypnotherapy is
about creating more ease in yourlife, and what that means is
that you have less resistance todoing the things that you know
that you want to do.
So that's how you can start totell that there's less noise,
there's less resistance, andthen you see that the behavior
(39:28):
has changed, so it just becomeseasier for you to do the thing
that you want to do.
You don't have to think aboutit, it feels natural Whenever
you do it.
I think that that's how youknow that the belief has been
rewritten.
Amber Annette (39:42):
And, and then I'm also drawn back to like where
you kind of started, where yourpartner even said to you though
you look different, you feeldifferent, something's changed.
So you, there's probably maybelike a lightness that can kind
of come over like that.
I mean, I think sometimes thethings that have been with us
for a long time, they're heavy.
You know, those roots getreally heavy.
Ally Rose (40:02):
Right, absolutely, and so I would say that that as
well, right, you might be ableto feel it, feel a difference.
I have felt the difference inmy own life.
Other people might reflect backto you, like my partner did.
I've had friends reflect me.
You look different, likethere's something different
about your face, about yourcountenance.
Yeah, it's heavy caring oldbeliefs that are no longer
serving you.
(40:23):
So when you release them, whenyou rewrite them, you know you
look lighter, you feel lighter.
Amber Annette (40:29):
Yeah, you know, I have to kind of give myself
like a moment here to rememberhow much work I've done.
I often joke with my friendsabout and my friends often say
to me they're like, are youliving like your best, like
Benjamin Button, life Right,because I just turned 44.
And when I tell you I lookyounger at 44 than I did at 21.
(40:51):
I wholeheartedly like it's,it's, it's incredible to me and
I know I guess I just neverrealized, like until this moment
, that that's probably some ofit, that's probably a lot of it.
It's all of the, the work right, the self-work, the mindset,
(41:13):
work that starts to make youfeel younger, lighter, at ease.
It's not, it's, you know it's.
It's not the other things, it's, you know not the new makeup I
switch to.
It's not that I decided toalways be blonde instead of
brunette.
It's not that I, you know, doit.
(41:34):
It's not that those aren't thethings Right.
It's not.
Oh, where did you get your?
You know, where did you getyour outfit?
It's, it's not right.
I mean, it is really probablythe internal work that shows up
the most on the external.
Ally Rose (41:51):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I always believe that,like, what's inside is always
going to come out in some way,whether it is through the way
that you look, or it's the waythat you interact with people,
or just the way that you show upin the world.
What's going on internally foryou is going to show up somehow
externally.
Right?
So once you shift what'sinternal, what what comes out of
(42:13):
you will shift.
Amber Annette (42:16):
I just I, I love it when I can have, like in an,
like I'm having an in the momenthere perspective shift, right,
like I think it's often thoseexternal things that we look at,
though first are the reasonswhy things are changing.
Now I would say, with like theexception of, like you know your
physical body right, like I'vestarted going to the gym more,
(42:37):
like, of course, that's going tochange my physical body, but
that the energy shift that youcan clearly feel from people, um
, that's that's from doing thatinner, that's from doing the
inner work that comes, that thatcomes from there.
So thank you for that person.
I just I appreciate I alwayslove it when I can be inspired,
(42:59):
when I can have a perspectiveshift, when something like that
happens.
So, um, thank you for thatAwesome.
This was so good, and I knowthat you have something amazing
for our listeners too.
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So, thank you so much.
That's such a generous offerfor our listeners.
I really appreciate that.
Ally Rose (43:54):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Amber Annette (43:57):
All right.
So now it comes to like myfavorite part of of the show,
which is where I get to tap intoyou and give you a business
reading.
Are you ready?
I'm ready, I, um, I want totake just kind of a second here.
I want to tap in.
All right, so let's tap in hereand Okay.
(44:26):
So, um, the first thing that iscoming to me is I see the words
in person and I see a stage.
I see a stage.
(44:50):
I feel like a lot of maybe whatyou have been doing has been
zoom online and there is justsomething telling me that this
is a year.
This is the year for you to domuch more in person, public
speaking.
Anything about that showing upfor you, or has that been on
your agenda or something?
Ooh, actually, or is thatsomething you've been a little
anxious and nervous about?
Is big, bigger stages andspeaking like that?
Ally Rose (45:09):
So it's interesting, it's not in person, but for the
last five years I've wanted todo a podcast and I have just
I've got.
I've stopped right before I gotstarted and I, this weekend,
I'm recording my first episode.
You're doing it.
Amber Annette (45:27):
I also.
So, in addition to that, I feellike maybe an opportunity is
going to be coming your way, orsomething.
Do you live on the East coast?
Your way, or something?
Do you live on the East coast?
Yeah, oh, okay.
So East coast, it feels likesome type of stage, some type of
speaking opportunity.
(45:47):
This is very much on a stage.
Is that something you haven'tdone before?
Ally Rose (45:53):
Not on like a large stage now.
Amber Annette (45:55):
Yeah, so this is, I would say it feels um end of
the summer, mid June.
Maybe the opportunity presentsitself in June, um, and then the
stage is a little bit later,but, um, I think you're going to
surprise yourself at how muchyou really enjoy that.
So that's, that's the that'snumber, so that's the number.
(46:19):
So that's the first thing thatI see.
Well, now that you said podcast, let's tap into her podcast,
please.
Okay, so the first thing thatI'm hearing for you with your
own podcast is don't script it.
(46:43):
If you have been like scriptingor like getting, like thinking
you want to be very specific in,I feel like what?
What the universe is kind ofshowing me for you, allie, is to
just really speak from yourheart, be more.
Don't script it, like maybegive yourself a couple bullet
points.
But if you have been likereally getting into, like deep
(47:07):
nothing, like there's somethingabout just really letting it
float, being very intuitive inthe moment I would say almost in
the moment podcasting, versuslike today's the day that I'm
going to sit down and I'm goingto do it, you get in the
universe, you're gettinginspired thoughts and ideas and
creative content pieces all thetime, and I feel like those are
(47:30):
in the moment, in the moment,messages that are going to.
That's what's going to makeyour podcast super powerful.
Okay your podcast super powerful.
(48:05):
Okay, I are you on Tik TOK?
I'm not.
No, I feel like you have aunique, you have your own unique
way to do.
I want to like almost likequaint it like something really
clever like half a minutehypnosis or like one minute
hypnosis right hypnosis, or likeone minute hypnosis right,
where it's like this, in themoment, quick shift that you can
give people Right.
(48:26):
And if you think about socialmedia, what I'm being shown is
like that's what people arelooking for.
They're looking for these likequick hits, right.
And yet when they experiencethat with you and they have that
with you, they're going to belike click profile, get your you
know maybe current offer orjoin your newsletter, because
(48:50):
that is showing me that's yourloop is you are just keep
talking kind of like to the samepeople, almost like over and
over, that are in your currentspace.
And what I love about I seelike do you have resistance
(49:12):
sometimes to social media?
Ally Rose (49:14):
going live, being yeah, right, just to social
media in general, sometimesbecause I feel like I'm a very
deep person and sometimes socialmedia feels a little too
shallow for me, but I'm makingpeace with it more and more.
Amber Annette (49:30):
So I, literally I need you, I need you to trust
me.
I need you to trust me in thismoment when I tell you that like
I'm really drawn to TikTok forit for some reason, I think it's
interesting you aren't even onTikTok and like that's the
platform that I keep seeing.
And here's why I feel like theability for your like one minute
(49:56):
hypnosis or one minute, oneminute meaning or like remember
earlier you were talking aboutlike getting to the meaning,
like one, one minute to themeaning, or something like coin
it, like there's somethingclever that can come through
from a marketing perspective,but giving those people that
quick aha, awareness perspectiveshift, I think is going to be
(50:21):
amazing for you.
And the other thing is, when Isee you, I see you going live
and being very much again in themoment, saying, if you can take
a break, like take a break withme, have a seat, because I'm
going to take you through aguided, a guided hypnosis
(50:44):
session right now, right here,to a B, c.
You know, overcome this, stopdoing this.
And I feel like you just havethe ability to.
There's like virality there.
You have the, and that's whatthe universe is saying to me.
Is that sometimes what you'resitting there saying you're like
(51:04):
why isn't this, you know, goingto the level that you want?
Or why what?
This is the piece for you, andit's not a coincidence that you
feel the most resistance to it.
Right, because so many peopledo so.
How amazing is it that you canuse your own modality on
yourself to overcome what youmost feel resistance to, that
(51:26):
also most other people feelresistance to, and then go show
up and be like here's proof ofhow this works.
I feel like the inner weavingsof this are what are going to
take you bit Like.
It is this visibility aspect,particularly around being in
your gift and being live withyour gift.
Ally Rose (51:48):
Okay, I love it.
Yeah, that's exciting.
Amber Annette (51:51):
So love it, you're going to do it or love it
, and I'm going to sit with thisAmber.
No, no, no.
Ally Rose (51:56):
Like love it.
Like you tapped into a lot ofthings that I feel like are
already in the works for me,like, like you know, like it's
like they're sitting they'vebeen sitting on this tip and I
feel like you just helped, likebring them forward a little bit
more.
Like, oh okay, you, the little,the little pings that you've
been getting, you're you'regoing in the right direction.
Amber Annette (52:24):
Yeah, and I can.
I feel this last thing that I'mkind of seeing for you is this,
um I'm going to use the wordwavering between help me maybe
what's coming to me?
This wavering between scienceand spirituality, where
sometimes you are like more onthe analytical, practical, um,
(52:51):
science side right, like you'resmart, like you know that side,
and then also there's this otherside of you that believes in
energy and intuition and, um, Ifeel like maybe sometimes I'm
not sure if there's a clash andor if there's, I'm hearing self
(53:18):
like not just self-trust butalso trust in that bigger
universal force, in the, thetrust in higher purpose, higher
calling the universe and reallysurrendering, and really
surrendering to that.
Anything about that come up foryou.
Ally Rose (53:38):
I don't know.
I feel like I'm going to haveto sit with that one a little
bit more.
It's probably more so the factthat the fact that I'm coming
from that traditional therapybackground yeah that's really
what I'm getting is like yeah.
I feel like there's a part ofme that has struggled to really
be seen in, like the morespiritual, even hypnotherapy
(54:00):
being on the fringe because Istill have ties to the
traditional therapy world.
Amber Annette (54:05):
Yes, yes so that's what's coming.
So that's where I'm saying,like science is kind of clashing
, like the two worlds aresometimes clashing, and my
invitation to you from theuniverse is to to surrender more
there, receive more there,allow more there and, more than
anything, trust, trust so muchmore there.
(54:27):
So let's, let's see where thatgoes, let's see Anything,
anything else that you have aspecific question about or want
me to tap into, anything else?
Ally Rose (54:40):
that you have a specific question about or want
me to tap into.
Oh, I don't think so.
I wasn't prepared.
That's okay, ask a question, sothat's okay.
Amber Annette (54:57):
The only.
So, now that I'm like, the onlyother thing is I don't know if
you always get super specific inlike like your niche of, like
who you serve or who you workwith or how you help individuals
, if it's always moreentrepreneurial or I know it
said like wealth and wisdom fromwithin.
The only other thing I'm goingto kind of give you to think
about and maybe this issomething that'll start showing
up is fertility, which is reallyinteresting, yeah, and I don't
(55:23):
know if that is specifically foryou or if that is specifically
for helping people be able touse hypnosis for fertility.
But the universe is showing methe image of a sea turtle, and
so be aware of that.
If that shows up in your space,in your that's not a typical
(55:43):
sign that I ever get.
So I mean that's prettysignificant, like that's pretty
specific.
So if there's ever somethingthat you see about a sea turtle,
know that the universe istrying to kind of guide you and
saying don't forget, like youhave the ability to, I think,
help people with hypnosis andyour gifts from a fertility
perspective.
Ally Rose (56:02):
Very interesting.
Amber Annette (56:03):
Yeah, yeah, okay, ever felt anything about like
fertility.
Ally Rose (56:06):
Well, yeah, I've helped.
Um, I had a client who, uh, wehad one session and she got
pregnant after two years ofinfertility.
Oh my, gosh.
Amber Annette (56:15):
Okay, so that could definitely be, maybe just
something that you're uniquelyable to activate within people.
So in such a beautiful gift,which is so interesting though.
Ally Rose (56:26):
So I will say this.
So, and then you know, I haveworked with other women.
You know, and I think what cameup for me?
There's been some heartbreak ofnot being successful in it.
And so I think I kind of waslike I don't know that I can do
that.
I don't know that I can walkthat walk with people, because
it's such a devastating like.
It's different than like a,it's different than something
(56:49):
more general.
Amber Annette (56:50):
Absolutely so it's.
Ally Rose (56:51):
it's interesting that you say that, cause I kind of
feel like I wrote that area oflike hypnosis and hypnotherapy
off, because after you knowexperiencing, you know a
heartbreak with someone, um.
So it's interesting that youbring it up.
Amber Annette (57:08):
I, I, I think it'll be interesting to see what
unfolds for you, what comes foryou from that kind of maybe
being brought back into yourawareness.
Um, I kind of was sensing itwas more from the ability to
help people for sure.
Um, so we'll, we'll see.
Here's what I can tell you.
(57:28):
I have been doing thesebusiness readings on this
podcast for, uh, a year and ahalf and when I tell you, people
are coming back, like even ayear after being a guest on here
and they're like, oh my gosh,you said this, I can't even
believe.
Like you said this, this hashappened.
Like, sometimes these things,just like anything, take a
little bit of time to take root.
(57:50):
So you'll have to make sure youcome back and you tell me, you
tell our guests, like, if someof these things happen, if you
get the speaking gig, if some ofthese things about you know,
maybe specializing or having aunique aspect of your business
with fertility, actually comeinto fruition.
I'm always fascinated to see soyeah.
Well, thank you so much, too,for being here.
Yeah, this was great.
(58:10):
I know my audience is going tolove it.
I enjoyed every second, and I'mjust so grateful that you had
the ability and time to come andshare this with us.
So thank you so much, Allie,and to all of my listeners.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
And now it's your turn.
Go be in your gift.
(58:31):
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