April 30, 2025 • 64 mins
Feeling stuck in your business despite knowing exactly what to do? Your body might be holding the key to your breakthrough.
Jackie McDonald, founder of Tapping School, reveals how EFT tapping - a powerful blend of Eastern medicine and Western psychology - can reset your nervous system and release subconscious blocks in minutes. This somatic healing technique goes beyond traditional mindset work by engaging your body's natural wisdom.
The most innovative aspect of Jackie's approach is using tapping not just for healing but for manifestation. By tapping into your future self - the woman you're becoming - you create a somatic memory that activates that version of you now. Your nervous system begins to recognize this elevated state as safe and possible, making inspired action your new default.
For high-achieving entrepreneurs, tapping addresses a common paradox: making more money while experiencing more anxiety. Jackie works with women who appear successful on the outside but still feel like impostors. Through her three-stage tapping process (venting, releasing, and affirming), these women learn to feel safe in their success - combining peace with prosperity.
What hidden resistance might your body be revealing about your next business breakthrough? Try tapping and discover for yourself.
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Amber Annette (00:02):
Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, where
each episode I take you on anintuitive journey that will
bring you clarity, inspirationand help ignite sales and
marketing magic in your business.
Whether it's the soul-ledconversations with my guests,
the solo episodes where I'msharing messages from the
universe, or using my gifts anddoing business psychic readings,
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you're sure to find anenergetic spark for your
entrepreneurial spirit.
I'm your host, amber Annette,and I'm thrilled to be here with
you today to explore the depthsof what it means to be a woman
in business.
I believe that business isabout more than just profit.
It's about purpose and beingfully in your gifts.
So sit back, get present andlet's dive in and uncover the
(00:43):
secrets to building a businesswith soul, purpose and magic.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
I'm Amber Arnett, your host,and today I have the fabulous
Jackie McDonald here and we aregoing to be talking about EFT
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tapping.
If you're not familiar withthat, you are going to want to
stick around, because it isgoing to be an absolutely
magical episode for you.
So let me tell you a little bitabout Jackie.
She is the founder of TappingSchool, where she teaches women
how to release and receive withEFT tapping.
Tapping is a somatic formtherapy that is famous for its
fast and effective ability tohelp you release anxiety,
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physical pain and overcome evenlimiting beliefs that you may
have.
For the past 13 years, jackiehas been teaching women and
children around the world how touse this fabulous technique not
only to heal, but actuallycreate a life that they love
from the inside out.
Her mission is to get tappinginto the hands, hearts and homes
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of people worldwide, and Ithink you are going to find that
she has an amazingly uniqueperspective on tapping.
Jackie, welcome, I'm so excitedyou're here.
It has.
We were just talking rightbefore we hit record.
As I feel I do with a lot of myguests.
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's likepast lives in this life.
Here we are again.
It's been a hot minute.
(02:08):
How are you girl?
Oh my gosh.
Jackie McDonald (02:10):
It's so good to be here.
I'm so excited to share withyour audience the magic and
power of tapping.
And I was thinking we met Idon't even know like maybe seven
years ago, eight years ago itwas a long time ago and you had
such a profound impact on mylife Like it was so cool.
Thank you.
Amber Annette (02:28):
I appreciate that .
I think we sometimes forget tolike, reflect for, reflect, like
just in general, on, like thepeople that have been a part of
this wild, amazingentrepreneurial journey.
So, thank you, I appreciatethat.
Here's the reason I know it was2017.
So it was almost eight yearsago.
(02:50):
I am not a huge astrology person, even though I'm a psychic
medium which people are alwayslike Nope, very different.
I don't, astrology is verydifferent but I happen to pick
up on that, like Venus is inretrograde right now.
So, if you guys are, if you'relistening to this episode, uh,
we're, we're recording it, uh,mid March and, um, so Venus is
(03:11):
in retrograde and I was likewell, what does that mean?
You know, I'm an Aquarius andso I've been very fascinated by
the, you know, age of Aquarius,and so that's kind of what
piqued my interest in astrologya little more this year.
And, anyway, one of the thingswas anything that you were doing
in 2017, you need to be likepaying attention to, because
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it's coming full circle for youin 2025.
So ideas you didn't complete,you know any of those things
like now, like you got a windowhere, like with this, with Venus
and retrograde.
So I was going through my 2017journals, and I had been
journaling about what I wasgoing to speak at the event that
you and me were both at.
So that's that's how I actuallyknow.
Jackie McDonald (03:53):
I mean, I could probably even tell you almost a
specific date, because I waslike oh, isn't that interesting
Full, so many things, fullcircle you know that's so cool
and I remember I think I washosting the event with our
friend Dajon and you, I think,closed the day or you were at
like the end of the day and youdid a psychic reading and you
picked me in the audience and Idon't know if you remember this.
(04:17):
Yeah, you picked me in theaudience and you were starting
to just I think you pickedsomeone else you were describing
to them and I was like I thinkthat's mine.
And you were describing mydad's energy and you said
something about a briefcase,which was really cool because it
was one of the last things thiswas one of the only things I
actually like of meaning that heleft behind and I knew where it
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was and when I went home Iopened it and there was one of
because my dad built heli-skiand cat-ski lodges up here in
Canada.
There was a drawing that hedrew a picture of his next lodge
and it was in that suitcase andyou telling me that made me
find it.
It was so cool.
Amber Annette (04:55):
Oh my gosh, that gave me goosebumps, I would say.
One of the things that isprobably a gift and a hindrance
all in one is what I callpsychic amnesia.
It's when I deliver messages, Ido readings and I don't retain
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any of it, and I I understandwhy, right, Like it would be
impossible for me to likeremember everything and hold
onto that for all.
I mean in the.
In the 11 years I've been doingthis, I've probably done
probably close to 10,000readings at this point, and that
includes like individualreadings, group readings, Like I
mean, it's, it's that many,it's it's just been amazing.
(05:36):
But that is like the one thingthat I wish I would have done a
little bit more was likedocument a lot of those moments
for people, Um, because I don'tremember once.
It's kind of like over and donewith it's.
It comes to me and through me,for the person.
So I love hearing stories likethat I do.
I love hearing those storieslike that because, um, it's
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almost like a first time for metoo.
Jackie McDonald (06:03):
Yeah, that sounds amazing, I know.
Amber Annette (06:06):
I know Sometimes I mean sometimes it's really
wild Like somebody will.
I've had people come up to meat like target and they're like,
oh my gosh, like how are you?
And I'm like I am so sorry,like I don't remember, and that
they've like been in my office,had like full on readings, where
I've been to their home, donegroup readings and I'm like I
have no idea who you are.
It's bananas, it's it is.
(06:26):
It is that intense.
The psychic amnesia is real.
So anyway, I love hearing thatI'm so excited to catch up what
you've been up to over theselast.
I mean I know you're stilldoing a lot of the similar
things, but just at such aprofound level.
I mean I see you from time totime in social media and I am
just so excited to.
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As soon as I realized I waslike I've never had anybody on
to talk about tapping.
You're my girl, so let's do it,I'm honored.
Jackie McDonald (06:56):
Yeah, I mean, my business really blew up from
when we got together in 2017,2018 on.
Uh, I really started to like Igrew a school, so I created
something called tapping schoolwhere I everyone was asking me,
like Jackie, will you teach metapping?
And I was deflecting and I waslike no, go to other people.
Like there's lots of peoplethat teach tapping.
(07:16):
Like don't come to me.
I didn't want to teach it inthe way everyone else was
teaching it and I didn't realize.
That's why people wanted me toshow up and create a
certification.
And so I decided, okay, well,I'll step into this.
But I had to do a lot of my ownwork around it because I had a
fear of, like you know,disrupting the industry or not
teaching it the same way.
But I put it out there and, ohmy gosh, like right away, people
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signed up.
But my first cohort we had sixpeople right away and then from
there it scaled and grew yearafter year.
I think my biggest cohort hadover 50 people in it.
Oh, that's amazing.
And yeah, it's become a movement.
Right, we just built a movementwith Tapping School to get
tapping into the hands, heartsand homes of people all over the
world and doing it in a waythat, like traditionally, eft is
(08:02):
known as a technique to helpwith things like PTSD and trauma
which I do teach pieces of thatbut I started using it in my
own personal journey to manifestthe things I wanted in life and
to create the greatest,grandest vision that I had for
myself, and so that's what Ipersonally did, and then I
started showing people how theycould do the same, and that's
where Tapping School was bornVery cool.
Amber Annette (08:29):
Well, for our listeners that maybe don't know
what tapping is, kind of sharewith them a little bit about.
I mean, it can definitely be,it can definitely be a visual
like sometimes seeing it, but Ithink also just hearing like a
great definition of like what istapping.
You know, kind of give us therun the, the rundown to maybe
anybody listening who doesn'tknow, or just a refresher to
people who, um, I mean, causetapping's been around forever.
I mean, I think it just likeand you know, like we were
(08:52):
talking kind of before we hitrecord here it but to me tapping
has never been trending, right,it's never.
It's always been, it's alwaysbeen a foundation, a
foundational healing modality.
Right, it's not something thatcomes and goes or um, but I
would say, from a visibilitystandpoint, you don't always
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hear about it or you kind offorget about it, or so, anyway,
just kind of share a little bitabout tapping, um and like,
maybe even like your firstexperience where you were like
holy shit, like this work.
Jackie McDonald (09:24):
Yeah, I always say tapping is a better
experience than explained,because it looks kind of weird
Like the first time I saw it.
I was like, am I really havingto do this right now?
Amber Annette (09:34):
But um do you know what I call it?
Oh my God, this sounds horrible.
I call it finger acupuncture.
Jackie McDonald (09:40):
It's similar.
You know it's very similar.
Amber Annette (09:46):
It's like acupuncture with your fingers,
like it is right way to describeit.
Jackie McDonald (09:48):
So EFT so it's official name is emotional
freedom techniques, also knownas EFT, but we call it tapping,
because you're tapping onacupuncture points on the face
and bodies.
Instead of like putting aneedle there, you're tapping on
these points and it's like ablend of Eastern medicine and
Western psychology.
So you're tapping on thesepoints and it's like a blend of
Eastern medicine and Westernpsychology.
So you're tapping on points andyou're saying statements like
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even though I feel reallyanxious today, I love and accept
myself anyway.
Or even though I really want tohit this goal in my business
and I don't know if I can do it,I love and accept myself anyway
.
Or even though I really want tolose weight, there's a part of
me that doesn't think I can doit because I've tried it in the
past and it hasn't worked and Ilove and accept myself anyway.
So there's different languagingthat we use, obviously depending
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on the topic that we're tappingon.
And what happens when you tapis that you are pretty much
resetting your nervous system.
There's the part of your braincalled the amygdala which
controls that fight or flightcenter, and just by tapping on
these points you're soothing theamygdala so you don't have to
believe in it to work, you don'thave to say the right words for
it to work.
(10:50):
You can just tap on thesepoints and you're going to
notice.
People will yawn, people willcry.
Sometimes you feel kind of awave of feeling tired for a
moment.
Then you feel really energizedagain.
It's resetting the nervoussystem in a really fast and
efficient way.
Amber Annette (11:04):
And nervous system, like that topic is
everywhere right now.
I feel like all of a sudden,everybody is a somatic coach or
everybody's like helping withnervous system rewiring or
something like, and I know we goagain like just kind of where
we were talking about tapping.
Like I know that we go throughdifferent.
You know trends and phases likethat.
You know in the online, uh,self-development space, healing,
(11:29):
um, spirituality, like kind ofall of those kinds of genres,
right, um, but why do you thinkthe language change, the
messaging is changing aroundthis?
You know, before nobody evertalked about the nervous system
reset, nobody ever really talkedabout even somatic healing.
(11:51):
Like I would say, those twothings have become kind of
buzzwords, I would say over thelast, maybe just even year even,
I feel like is when I reallystarted noticing it.
Jackie McDonald (12:02):
Well, I think, because it works.
You know people are realizingthat this work works and being
solely in, you know, just yourdriven take action mode, only
gets you to a certain point.
And there is a big shifthappening right now where, you
know, the feminine is rising.
And I believe in both.
I believe that your body has tobe on board with who you're
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becoming is what I teach, and soyou can have this vision for
your life.
But if there is an anxiety inyour chest or you're getting
migraine headaches, there's apart of you that doesn't feel
safe.
Stepping into that and workingwith that part of you is
actually the key to unlockingthat next level.
And I think you know there'sall kinds of incredible
researchers, there's so many newbooks coming out.
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People are realizing that thiswork has worked for centuries
and now that it's just becomingmore acceptable and more
mainstream, because before itwas kind of, you know, being
like, oh, that's woo, woo.
But it's like people are wakingup to the world and the things
that work, and I think that'swhy it's taking off.
Amber Annette (13:05):
So I want to talk about the somatic aspect of
this.
Right, like I, about threeweeks ago, I follow this online
influencer and love her contentlike love everything that she's
kind of putting out and she putout this webinar where she was
going to talk about, like whyit's important and how to reset
your nervous system and somatichealing all of it.
(13:25):
I was like really excited,attended this, sat in this
webinar and not once was thereever actually an example of how
that, how to do it Right, and sothat took me down a rabbit hole
of like how do you actually andalmost all of the people that I
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like started following from acontent creator perspective
coaches all the things were notreally even explaining or
showcasing, showing like how todo that for your body, but
tapping does, like it's very,it's the how.
I'm like are people just like,not like is it a gatekeeping
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tactic?
Like what is going on with that?
We're like nobody is reallyshowing what somatic healing is.
They're just talking about it.
Jackie McDonald (14:22):
Yeah, and that's why I always say it's
better experience and explain.
With tapping I actually leadwith the experience versus lead
with the explanation, cause Ican talk to you all day long
about the science behind tappingand how and why it works, but
until I would rather just tapwith you and in two minutes you
see your anxiety go or sometimesit's a little longer, but go
from a 10 to a four to a zero,like in 20 minutes or less.
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I can decrease your anxietyfrom a 10 to a zero, guaranteed.
I've done it for 13 years.
I know the process, but it allstarts with, like you as the
guide, as a human.
So my first question to alwaysask is you know, close your eyes
, tune into your body.
How are you feeling right now?
And if it's a goal that we wantto hit, so how are you feeling
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about that goal?
And I always say resistance isthe roadmaps.
If you're saying like I know Ican hit it, but there's just
like something there, okay, whatis that something there and
where does it live in your body?
And usually people say it's inmy chest, it's in my head, it's
in my stomach.
Great, that's.
Our body is talking to us, it'stelling us there's a part of me
that doesn't think I can dothis, then what we do is we rate
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it on a scale of zero to 10.
So if I have some resistance inmy chest around going after
this big goal and it's like aseven, there's languaging that
we use depending on the numberthat you give.
So if your number is high, ifyou're like between an eight and
a 10, that tells me thatthere's a lot of subconscious
resistance and we need to dowhat's called venting tapping
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and you just need to vent outall the reasons why you don't
think you're going to hit thegoal.
And it's saying things likeI've done this before and it
didn't work.
It's so frustrating, I'm afraidof failing, I'm afraid of
putting myself out there what ifpeople laugh at me?
So that the numbers have a lotof meaning in tapping and it
helps you, as the consumer know.
Numbers have a lot of meaningin tapping and it helps you, as
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the consumer know.
Oh, this is actually what Ishould be saying at this level.
The second stage is what we callthe releasing, letting go stage
, and this is where you'll hearlanguaging change.
So it's like, even though Iwant to hit this goal.
There's a little bit ofresistance here, but I'm open to
letting it go.
And the cool thing is is whenyou work with the body.
You'll say it and you'll feelit.
The body will be like, yes, Ido feel ready to let that go,
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and you'll.
You'll feel that convictionbehind your words.
The third stage is where youstart using affirmations.
This is when your subconsciousbrain is primed, prepped and
ready to receive an affirmationso you can say things like I'm
going to the next level.
Now I can see this businesscoming to life, I can feel this
vision happening in real time.
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You'll say it and you'll feelit because your subconscious is
on board with that vision, yoursubconscious now believes it yes
you got it.
Amber Annette (16:58):
And I think that for those that believe and are
truly embody, I would say, likethe law of attraction, right, I
think most of us especially ifyou've, if you've been doing
this work for a while for wewere told that our thoughts
create our reality.
(17:19):
You know, what you thinkbecomes your reality, and that
just does not ring true for meanymore.
It's that our beliefs createour reality, and so that's why I
love, that's why I loved, likeEFT, like so many of the
different modalities that areout there, because we all know
that well, if you don't know,our beliefs come from our
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subconscious and I think sooften we see, you know, I'll see
my clients, or I mean evenmyself, or my kids, like all
kinds of right, all kinds ofpeople in different experiences,
where they're, they just can'tfathom and understand why
something's not working for them.
Jackie McDonald (17:58):
And that's why it's because there is a deeper
rooted, subconscious belief thatinsert yeah, you know, xyz,
whatever the reason, and that'swhat we got to get to the root
of in in completely heal andclear and that's something that
in tapping school that I teach,that you won't learn anywhere
else, is that the body is thesubconscious mind there's a
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great book by candice pert thatexplains that but in the body
will also show us parts of self.
So say you're like, yeah,there's a part of me that really
wants to go fast and build thisthing, but there's also a part
of you that's scared.
And so with tapping we can talkto that part of you that's
scared, we can talk to the partythat wants to go fast and we
can get them to work together.
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So you're not internallybattling each other.
The other cool thing is, onceyou get into that, that part of
you that's scared is oftenlinked to a past memory.
And that's where we go in andwe actually tap with your
younger self.
So it's not just, like you know, doing inner child work.
It's tapping with your innerchild is a completely different,
profound experience, becauseit's the somatic piece.
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Yes, your inner child canprocess mentally what happened,
but the body keeps score.
So when the body releases thememory, it's a whole different
type of movement that startshappening, are you?
Amber Annette (19:12):
perfect.
Yeah, yep, yep, I'm reading itright now.
Um, and help me, I think,understand this part that I like
again.
Like I remember when I firstkind of came and entered into
the space, tapping was one ofthe Brad Gates.
I watched some of the old BradYates tapping who I mean it's
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like the OG of tapping Right andwhat made me stop tapping and I
don't know why.
Like I didn't like the Isometimes the negative
reinforcement, right, I at thetime I was like this is so
counterintuitive, this doesn'tto me in the moment I was like
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this doesn't feel right, like Idon't like saying these things,
I don't believe these things,and that's what made me actually
like kind of get away from itand look for different
modalities.
Can you kind of talk about likehow that works, like with the
subconscious?
Like you know, I've again goingto like law of attraction,
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right, it's like we want to bemindful of the words that we're
speaking, because that becomesour belief.
So it's like enforcing thepositive.
But how do you clear thenegative, get into that kind of
part of tapping?
I've always been fascinated bythat.
Jackie McDonald (20:27):
First of all, girl, you gotta come tap with me
because this is what this iswhy.
This is why I created mymovement, because people people
that tap with me know Jackiedoes it different.
That's the thing I hear themost, and it's because I
actually do the opposite to him.
Um, where I will do like youknow, you have to release the.
The quote unquote, negative iswhat's really going on
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subconsciously for you.
So it's like it's saying it'sraining outside, it's not good
or bad, it's just what is it'sraining.
If you don't like rain, thenit's not a good day, right.
But we all have this internaldialogue that's running and the
way to take your power back fromit is to get it out and let it
go, and we do that throughtapping.
But one of the things that I sawa lot of people do is stay in
that space and then they didn'ttake people to the next level.
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And that's what I created in mymethod.
I call it the McDonaldmanifestation method.
It's like let's tap into yournext level.
So I do a lot of affirmativetapping, where it's not just
affirmative but affirmativevisioning, where I'm like I am
building a movement and I canfeel this movement being built
in me and I can see it comingtogether and I can feel it and I
was born to do this, and so Istarted focusing more on that.
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I ran a 21 days of tapping andaffirmations program and that's
what really blew up my business.
But in a tapping liketraditional tapping sense, they
do that repetitively becausethat is what's releasing the
subconscious resistance I justfound they would stop at that.
I just explained, like levelone, level two, level three,
they would stop with the leveltwo.
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They wouldn't take it.
Amber Annette (21:56):
They wouldn't take it all the way to level
three and just like keepreinforcing it, like keep
listening to this, keeplistening to this.
Yeah, so that must have beenprobably the point that I got to
where I was like I don't wantto say this and believe this
anymore.
You know, like this and youcause you don't right, I was,
yeah, I was ready to graduateonto McDonald, manifesting, for
(22:17):
sure, the McDonald method,because I, I mean that made me
then go look for, like, okay,what's not necessarily my next
thing, but also okay, what canhelp me kind of have my next
break here, or what can, yeah,like what can?
I think you know, I mean I'vedone hypnosis.
I mean I love, I love hypnosis.
Jackie McDonald (22:37):
I mean, I think , combined with this, you know,
like all the differentmodalities, but I think so what
my approach is like usingtapping as an accelerator and an
activator, because you can tapinto who you're becoming.
And that's one question I askeveryone, and I would ask
everyone that's listening today.
Write down the sentence thewoman I am becoming is and just
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let that land for a moment.
Think about how would I answerthat Like.
The woman I am becoming is.
Maybe she's healthier thanshe's ever been.
She's unstoppable, she's a mom,she's a multimillionaire, she's
leading a movement.
Start writing that out and thenwhatever you write out, that's
what you tap in.
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So you're going to read thatand tap that through.
The woman I'm becoming is anunstoppable force.
She is building a movementaround her message and that's
where you'll start to feel anactivation happen in the body.
The body will start to rememberwhat it feels like to be that
future self.
Amber Annette (23:37):
So when you say the body, this is let me tell a
little bit of story here why Istarted reading the body um,
keep score, the body keeps score.
So I started going to the gymthis year and I realized I, hey,
this is like the most I've everworked out in my life.
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I'm going like religiously andit feels so good, I love it when
I'm there.
But I realized when I was thereI like didn't want to sweat.
And I know that sounds likestupid, right, like we're
obviously going to like we'regoing to the gym to work out,
but like right before I wouldget like really hot or start
sweating, I would stop.
I would kind of like pull backand stop myself.
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And I was like something justtold me like that was a
resistance.
There was like some my body waslike not even wanting to let go
of that Like and I was like whatelse is my body not willing to
let go of?
And that brought me down thisjourney of like.
And it was just like thisintuitive insight that I had
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when I was at the gym of likesweating is a form of somatic
healing in a way, like workingout is like all, like all of the
we need to be moving all ofthis out of our body, just like
out of our body, just like outof our mind, just like anything
else, right, like we move thingsaround our environment, we're
always like, but we don't do itnecessarily out of our bodies.
(25:02):
And I just had this again likekind of like the psychic insight
to like ourselves, what are ourcells, our body like holding on
to, and that tapping, workingout all of these like things
combined with, just combinedwith, not I don't want to just
say like positive affirmations,but intentions even, can be so
(25:23):
clearing of what is holding usback from believing and really
believing that we can become whowe want.
Jackie McDonald (25:32):
Yeah, from believing and really believing
that we can become who we want.
Yeah, that's such a beautifulexample, because what I would
recommend doing and what I teachin tapping school is to get
curious with our bodies versuscritical, because our body is
truly our best friend.
It's the thing that wakes upwith us every single day.
It'll take whatever we put init and do its best.
It is here for us and I don'tthink we've been taught that as
women, it's the thing we've hadto battle against for so long.
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And so in tapping school, Ispend a lot of time teaching you
how to communicate with yourbody.
So if there's something toresistance, like sweating, it's
like oh, curious, like what, Iwonder what that's about.
And just doing like five, 10minutes of tapping around it,
you'll probably come up withright to the root of why.
And ultimately it's the bodysaying feeling safe enough to
let it go.
And you're just going to startto say to the body it's okay to
(26:15):
let this go now, we're safe,we're good, and you'll feel your
whole system release and relaxand it'll be interesting.
Next time you go to the gym,I'll listen to you be like wait,
I'm sweating and I didn't evenrealize it.
Amber Annette (26:25):
Yeah, and that was like a couple of weeks ago,
and so that's what I'm, almostexactly what I started doing.
Like I often say, curiositieslead to callings, and those
curiosities definitely led me torealize, like not wanting to
push myself, like I was holdingon to a lot of like judgment,
fear, body, all the like, allthe things Right, and did some
(26:49):
hypnosis, or like, at the time,did some hypnosis around it and
then, like, since I've beengoing to the gym, I've been like
pushing my, like not, I justdon't care.
Jackie McDonald (26:56):
Like and I created a like.
Amber Annette (26:59):
I'm trying to now instill a belief that, like,
I'm sweating what out what doesnot serve me Like it beautiful
affirmation which gets me pumpedto like reinforce the habit of
becoming the person that goes tothe gym all the day.
It's just so I think we canfind, you know, I think we can
find these opportunities to growin any particular situation.
(27:23):
When we look for thatresistance and you know I think
we resist sounds again it kindof sounds like pretty, but we
resist the resistance even.
Jackie McDonald (27:34):
you know, we looking for it, looking for the
opportunities, and I I alwayssay resistance is the roadmap to
get you where you want to go.
When a client comes to me andthey're like, oh, I'm so
frustrated, like you know,there's resistance there, I'm
like, oh, we're, we're on theedge of gold, like that's my
golden nugget, because I cantell within 10 to 15 minutes of
(27:55):
tapping that resistance is justshowing you the key to your next
level.
There's a part of you therethat needs to be seen in order
for you to elevate, and so assoon as we see her and she feels
safe, then boom, you're good togo.
So anytime you're feelingresistance, it's a roadmap to
your next level.
And I always say your body'snot here to hold you back, it's
here to help you and it'll sendyou messages through symptoms
and signs and you have the powerto talk to the body through
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something like tapping.
Amber Annette (28:20):
What are you think are some like common
things that maybe you have seenfor your clients, that are
indicators that tapping wouldwork.
Or it's like it's in thesubconscious, it's in the body,
like what are some really goodindicators that no amount of
strategy is going to get themthere, no amount of, you know,
(28:42):
marketing, whatever right, yeah,no amount of action is going to
get them there.
What are some commoncommonalities you see?
Jackie McDonald (28:50):
Well, I work with women at all levels but,
like my high level women, theyhave come to me with anxiety.
They feel like they're makingmore money but they have more
anxiety than ever and when theywalk into a room, even though
they're the leader of theirindustry, they feel like an
imposter when they walk intothat room.
So that's like my high levelclients.
That's kind of what we'reworking on is helping them feel
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safe in their success and beingable to have success and peace
at the same time.
Feel safe in their body, feelrelaxed, like they belong.
It's okay for them to take upspace, it's okay for them to be
celebrated.
So that's one symptom.
Another one is visibilityblocks.
So they know what they need tobe doing but they're not doing
it because there's a fear ofbeing seen at some level,
(29:35):
whether that's maybe they'realready showing up in their
posting, but they could be goingto another level and they're
not being seen for some reason.
Time to come tap with me.
Or they are having a strangesymptom in their body.
Like, I work a lot with womenwho right now I'm working with
somebody who's going through.
She had an explant done andshe's done all the other things
(29:57):
for her body.
She's taking the supplements.
She's like doing the outer work, going to the gym, but there's
some deep inner forgiveness thatshe had to do with her body
forgiveness, work and her, hertrusting her body and her trust,
her body trusting her again.
So it's oftentimes when peoplehave done all the external
(30:18):
things that get them to acertain point and there's a
deeper level there.
Tapping can get to the root ofit quickly and we can get you
like it.
It's an accelerator.
It will move them very quicklyto that next level of healing
money, love, whatever it isthey're looking for.
Amber Annette (30:34):
Yeah, I think what's interesting is I think
those are just some of the mostcommon you know, whether I guess
it's high level women that arealready like crushing it in the
industry, or sometimes even likeyou're just starting out brand
new, right, like new level samedevil.
(30:56):
You know, it's like, it's kindof the same Like.
If I think about, even formyself, some of the things it's
like what I was sharing with youabout, like, going back and
reading my journal, I was like,I don't want to say like
frustrated, but part of me waslike man, the, the thoughts I
(31:16):
was having back then are trulystill some of the same thoughts
and things I'm journaling andwriting about now.
And yeah, how much time is like.
And at the same time, jackieright, there was also a list of
like, all of these things that Ilike, wanted to like my, it was
like my 2017 desire list.
(31:36):
Right, girl checkmark next toall of those.
Fast forward to today.
So it's like, oh my gosh.
And yet here I sit, stillhaving some of the same thoughts
that 2017 me had.
Jackie McDonald (31:49):
So yeah it, and that's one thing I love to talk
with women about.
I'm actually hosting a visionboard party this Friday because
I find, yeah, I find a lot ofwomen are like you and I, like
you've done it, like youmanifested dream homes, you've
with your dream partner, likelots of the things you've asked
for have happened.
But there's a greater levelthat you could be playing at,
(32:11):
and I just went, I just spoke atan event called Dream Bigger.
Megan Hales put on thisbeautiful event.
Amber Annette (32:16):
I need to get her on here.
Jackie McDonald (32:18):
Yes, it was such a great event and I she
gave me the keynote spot, whichis so such an honor.
But being at that event was anactivator for me because I
started sharing some of the bigdreams that I've secretly had
but haven't said out loud.
And for the past two years I'vebeen writing down every day
that I'm a happy, healthybillionaire.
Like I write that down everysingle day but I wasn't telling
people because I was afraid of,like what people would think.
(32:41):
And then I started sayingthings like oh, I'm raising my
daughter with a billionairemindset and it felt edgy.
Or I don't just have clients, Ihave celebrity clients and I
think that there's a greaterlevel for a lot of women right
now that we could be playing at.
But we haven't claimed.
And one of my core philosophiesis that your body has to be on
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board with who you're becoming.
So if you're saying thesestatements and there's a little
bit of like I don't know if Ishould say that out loud like
that might ruffle some feathersthat's the time to tap.
It's just.
It's just helping again thebody feel safe to elevate to
that next level.
So I don't know if any of thoseresonate with you or what your
next level is Amber if there'ssomething bigger you're ready to
(33:37):
claim.
Amber Annette (33:37):
That's like do we ever overcome some of these
like past traumas, these pastlimiting beliefs, to the point
where we're just like man, I'mgood, like I don't need hypnosis
anymore, I don't need, I havebecome so, I don't.
I think there's sometimes acatch 22 in this, a little bit,
you know, of like, if I'm, ifI'm wanting to become her, and I
(33:59):
just, and then I just shift myenergy to say, well, I am her,
well, does she need thesemodalities?
Or do you know where I'm goingwith this?
Yes, have just like.
When.
Like when does theself-development become the
addiction and the thing that'sactually keeping you from being?
Jackie McDonald (34:22):
Well, in my perspective, I have always used
tapping to connect with God andI don't think that there's ever
going to be a time that we stopevolving or we stop being faced
with fears or resistance.
I just find that we're able tobounce back quicker.
So it's not that I every levelis like, oh, finally, I just
don't need these things anymore.
(34:43):
It's like I can just getthrough those moments quicker.
And with tapping I always liketo use it, for I tap into what's
called your wildly wealthywoman, which is your future self
, and I spend a lot of time withwomen there, like who is she?
And she changes.
Sometimes she's dressed inwhite, sometimes she's in a
t-shirt and jeans, and takingthat advice from your future
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self has been, to me, a key tothe evolution.
But going back to your questionof like when will this ever
stop?
I?
To me it's a spiritual practice, like I don't look at it so
much as a personal development.
I look at it as like tapping ismy time with God, which is
really time with myself.
Amber Annette (35:25):
Oh, beautiful.
I've always considered tapping,hypnosis, maybe even
forgiveness work, my ownmodalities as that modalities,
mindset modalities, versus aspiritual practice, and maybe
that's because I have like aseparate spirit, like I call
(35:47):
mine coffee with the universe,right, like I am tapped in, kind
of talking to spirit, I think,all the time where, no, no pun
intended, untapped in, but like,um, you know what I mean, like
I yeah, I don't know, I, I thinkI just am always talking, like
I, I use universe, just universe, god, spirit, source,
(36:11):
interchangeable, all the words,right, I've never thought of
these modalities that way.
So that's an interestingperspective because, right, I
would never stop, I'll neverstop, coffee with the universe.
And maybe it's more of um, youknow some of these things,
thinking of it more as likemaintenance mode, versus, and I
(36:34):
think it's how you learn tappingtoo.
Jackie McDonald (36:36):
Right, if you learn tapping, cause it is
traditionally taught as like ahealing modality, and that's
where I it's why I just createdmy method.
It's so much more than that.
I can show you the magic oftapping, which is really the
magic of yourself and coming toit as an amplifier, like if
you're having coffee with theuniverse throw some tapping in
(36:57):
there and it'll sink into yourbody faster too.
Yeah, so I'm like let me giveyou a session.
See a session.
I'll show you how we can makeit not just again.
Amber Annette (37:08):
Can we do it here , like where people can like
listen, like can we do it.
I was going to say like let's do, let's do that so that they can
.
And it's always fun to bringfull circle, like back when
people have been on on thepodcast and I can be like here's
an update, like those are,those are the best for sure.
So I mean I know you do likethe majority of your business
(37:30):
online.
Let's kind of talk about thatside a little bit.
You know both right before yourschool, your certification.
Just kind of get into that side, the online marketing space
side of it too.
Jackie McDonald (37:42):
Yeah, I know I will get into that in a minute.
I know before you mentionedlike you have a lot of people
that have online businesses, butyou're also interested in
working with women that are likein brick and mortars.
Some of my top clients aren'tin an online business.
They're in mortgage or in realestate and or their partners are
, like you know, contractors.
And it's so cool to work liketapping can be worked with
(38:04):
anyone on anything but I didchoose to build my business
online 13 years ago.
Tapping found me at my worst andbrought me to my best.
I was 19, had my daughter andwent into like my own healing
mode and went to all the doctors.
They were like you're just atired new mom, you'll figure it
out, you'll get better.
But I had to take my healthinto my own hands and that's
(38:25):
when tapping taught me that Ihad a lot of grief that was
stored in my body and I was like, okay, if this helped me, this
can help others.
So that's why I chose to bringit online and my journey with
that was I wrote a letter to theuniverse and I said I want to
be in a community of women thatthink like I think and do the
things that I do.
At that day that I wrote thatletter, I was working in an
(38:47):
accounting office doing being abookkeeper and I was like this
is not what I meant to be doing.
I was listening to LewisHowell's podcast and I was like
I'm supposed to be the one thathas the podcast, you know, and
that later that afternoon wentonline and I saw some random
Facebook posts.
It was like from the FemaleEntrepreneur Association.
Someone posted in there thatthey were doing an event.
(39:11):
The event happened to be twohours from where I lived and
that you could win a spot tospeak on stage.
And I was like I'm winning thatspot.
So if you sold the most tickets, you won the spot.
I sold the most tickets, wonthe spot on stage, tapped with
this room of femaleentrepreneurs and all had
Facebook groups and they werelike oh my gosh, you moved the
room.
Will you come tap in myFacebook group?
So that's what initially got meonline, as I started tapping in
(39:34):
Facebook groups and then Idecided I'm going to do a
Facebook live, like I'm going totap on Facebook live.
So I called it Tapping Tuesdayand the first live I was like
I'm going to tap on anxiety,because that's what tapping is
known for helping helping peoplewith anxiety, but I look like
I'm having an anxiety attack.
On going live was like oh mygosh, it just came out like it
(39:57):
was a brand new feature.
So I'm like sweating and likelike trying to tap and say these
words and all my like my highschool friends are on my aunts
and cousins and I'm like, oh myGod, what is she doing?
But then people startedmessaging and they're like, oh
my God, jackie, my anxietydecreased.
Whatever you just did workedand I was kind of like, really,
(40:19):
I'm surprised because I looklike a mess, but that's what
brought me into the online spaceand I started tapping every
Tuesday, built this Facebookgroup and then 2020 hit and
everyone was at home and anxiousand I had this technique to
help people feel less anxiousand build a business from
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anywhere.
And that's when Tapping Schoolreally like I had my first
six-figure launches.
It was like a massive expansionin my business and how that
evolved was like I was gettingpeople like such fast results.
Well, they were gettingthemselves results because they
were learning tapping.
Then it evolved.
All those people have graduated, they have built successful
(41:02):
businesses a lot of them offline, like just through their
communities and asking me like,how do you build an online
business?
So I've been exploring that thepast year.
I ran something called salesschool for healers, which has
been a huge hit, but theindustry has changed since 2020
to now.
It's changed a lot and it goesback to basic business
principles.
You, as an entrepreneur, areplaying a lot of different roles
(41:27):
and as a healer, that's onerole.
But if you want to have anonline business, you're a
marketer, you're a customerservice, you're in sales.
So teaching the practitionerslike look, you have to learn
other skills and entrepreneursare innovators.
So just because what wasworking in 2020 might not work
right now doesn't mean thatthere's anything wrong.
(41:48):
It just means that we'reevolving and, as an entrepreneur
, you have to evolve.
Yes, so that's kind of myopinion on it.
I don't know if that's wherethe answer you're looking for,
but oh, yeah, no, no no, no.
Amber Annette (42:00):
I think I think at the core of business, at the
core of being an entrepreneur,is somebody is gifted, and I
think that's that's probably mynext evolution in business is I
don't.
I don't want to say it's likenot teaching, I don't know that
(42:21):
I want to teach business as muchas I want to help entrepreneurs
really see that their bestmarketing strategy is leading
with their gift and their heart.
Yeah, there's something more, Ithink I I love marketing and I
(42:41):
love sales, and to try to infusethat passion into somebody else
and get you know what strategymaybe work for me or one of my
other clients to work for youknow a room, an online Zoom room
full of 50 other people is, is,I just don't think, realistic
(43:01):
anymore.
I, everybody has a uniqueenergetic blueprint, you know,
and that blueprint is made up ofbeliefs, it's made up of
experience, it's made up ofenergy, their intuition, and
that's why I can't teach aframework anymore around
(43:22):
business, because I don't.
First of all, I just don't, Idon't, I don't believe in five
steps and this framework.
The things I used to evenbelieve in in this, in business,
I don't believe in necessarilyanymore, and so it's hard to
really I can't teach it anymore.
If I don't believe in it, Iobviously can't teach it anymore
.
So but what I do believe in andwhen I really sat with that,
(43:43):
like I was like I don't, youknow, talk about resistance,
right, like I did not want to goout and be like come take this
masterclass with me and learnabout intuitive messaging, or oh
, like it just felt awful, Ididn't want to do that anymore.
I just can't.
But what I, or sales or any ofthat, but what I do, what I do
want is for people to realize,at the end of the day, what
(44:09):
people buy is your gift.
That's what people want to be apart of.
It's your gift.
It's when you're passionateabout your gift, and so helping
women expand those gifts isnaturally going to lead to them
expanding their wealth, theirincome, their impact all the
things that you know, the womenlike you and me work with.
Jackie McDonald (44:29):
So yeah, it's definitely I.
I agree with that and I think Itend to attract what I call
unconventional women, and whenan unconventional woman tries to
fit into a traditional orconventional and like I'm not
just saying like be a doctor,but like an online way, it
messes with their mind and thenthey think there's something
wrong with them when there'snothing wrong with them.
(44:51):
And last year I worked withsomeone who's very well known in
this industry.
She's amazing.
I love her, but her, her styleis very like authority driven
and it's like you know, this iswhat you have to do if you're
going to make sales.
And so I started doing that, butit didn't feel like me and it
(45:12):
didn't even sound like me, andwhat's always worked for me is
leading from the heart, isshowing up, sharing who I am and
speaking from the heart, and Icould feel like it felt off,
like I was like why is this sohard?
Like content has never beenhard for me.
Why does it feel hard?
But it's because I was tryingto follow someone else's formula
, and when you're anunconventional woman, like
you're a trailblazer, likeyou're not meant to follow.
Amber Annette (45:34):
You're meant to lead, yeah.
Jackie McDonald (45:36):
And that's why you can't fit into everyone
else's stuff.
Amber Annette (45:38):
It's because you are meant to create your own way
and inspire your people tocreate their own way with you,
yes, and I think that's wherethere's, you know, when we talk
about, like, the shifts that arehappening.
I think that's that's one ofthe core shifts.
For me is, though and it's notthat I, in the moment that I
used to talk about these thingslike they were very real, like I
(46:00):
believed in them and like, butagain, like we, we get
permission to evolve our messageas well, we get, you know, and
I think that's what's hard whenyou start to make some pivots in
your business, when you startto have a new direction you want
to go.
It doesn't mean that what Ionce believed doesn't matter.
(46:21):
It's just that I've now I don'tknow, I guess reached a new
level of beliefs and areas thatI want to focus on or talk about
, or passions, and I think thatthat's that evolution is
necessary, and I do think thatthere are people that need a
formula.
I do think that there are peoplethat need the step-by-step,
(46:42):
that need the detail.
I just can't be the person togive that to them.
That's step that need thedetail.
I just can't be the person togive that to them.
That's that's not what my nextphase of of business.
That's just not my next phaseof what my business looks like.
Jackie McDonald (46:54):
So and it depends where you're at in
business.
Certain seasons you will need aformula and a framework, like
when I teach tapping school.
There's a framework to tapping,like, yeah, you need to know
some basics, but it's also anart and everyone has their own
style, and we really encouragethat in tapping school.
Here's the great basics thatyou need to know.
Now go play with it and test it, and that's why we have so much
practice time in tapping school, because then you start to see
(47:16):
new methods be born out of outof my method, right, and I
encourage that.
Like it doesn't need to staythe same, and you don't either,
because, like you said, you'regoing to evolve, so your
business will too.
Um, but as long, I think, aslong as you stay connected to
your heart, you don't lose yourheart in it.
Amber Annette (47:34):
That's the main thing.
Sell with heart what you createwith soul.
Right girl, amen, so good, um,well, what else do you got?
So I know one of the thingsthat we had talked about is your
gift that you have for mylisteners, which is like
basically a brand new to tappingkit.
(47:55):
Tell them a little bit about it, because I want to make sure
they go to show notes.
They grab it from you.
So kind of get into that alittle bit.
Jackie McDonald (48:01):
Yeah.
So it's a tapping starter kitand it's if you've never heard
of tapping before or if you'venever tapped with me before,
it's a great starting place.
It's going to give you a PDFwith what what points do we
actually tap on when we're usingEFT, a script so you can try
tapping on your own, and a videowith me walking you through it.
So I kind of gave you a quickversion in our episode today.
(48:22):
But it's like actually breakingthose points down and the first
question I always ask is youknow, what is it that you want
or desire?
How do you want to feel?
And I ask myself that questionevery day because I do tapping
every single day.
I do affirmation tapping withmy community and I'm like okay,
what do I want to feel today?
Why, what's stopping me fromfeeling that way?
And we teach you how to releasethat really quickly and then
(48:44):
get into that really beautifulaffirming space.
So I would highly recommend goget that download.
I always have fun free thingsgoing on too, Like right now I'm
doing a tapping.
It's called the Wildly WealthyOne Vision Board Party.
So we're doing tapping andvision boarding.
I have a I call it the make ithappen movement.
I'm working with women who arereally making big things happen
(49:04):
this year and I tap with themevery week, so there's always
fun things going on in mycommunity, and the best place to
hang out with me is onInstagram, at the Jackie
McDonald, or on my own podcast,which I'll have you on the
Wildly Wealthy Woman podcast.
Amber Annette (49:18):
Oh, my gosh, please Instagram, not so off of
Facebook groups like is thatkind of trend, kind of hit hit,
it hit?
Jackie McDonald (49:28):
the.
You know where I started.
Amber Annette (49:31):
I started in Facebook groups Also.
I came across a group I don'tknow if you were ever in it the
entrepreneur incubator withBecky Dixon.
Were you ever in that one?
Yes, that was my very first.
It was like, right, whenFacebook groups came out, it was
my very first group.
I went in the group and I justdecided to like I was still
(49:52):
working at the time, like allthe things I decided to do a
group of a post to the like.
And I remember I was like sorryabout the sweating, right, I was
like sweating.
I was like, okay, like what ifsomebody from my work is in this
?
I was like nobody from yourfreaking work is in this
Facebook group.
Like, first of all, right, Ijust I remember sitting at my
kitchen counter going through itand I was like, okay, I'm just
going to do it, I'm going to putthis out there.
And I was like you know I'm abusiness psychic and I just want
(50:14):
to like, use this gift andcomment here If you want me to
no-transcript.
And I did in the Facebook grouppeople reached out, booked
(50:37):
private sessions, it just it.
I mean literally one postchanged my life and again, kind
of talking about full circle,right, like.
I think we sometimes need toremember that it just takes one
second for something, for onesecond and your whole life can
change in the most amazing,brilliant way.
(50:59):
And we get.
It's my favorite number.
I'm actually like pretty sureit's going to be my next tattoo.
But 86,400, that's how many weget every day Like, and it just
takes one of those you know andevery like wow.
Anyway, that's that's my littlelike shout out to like man
Facebook groups they, they weremagic.
(51:22):
They were, they really were.
Jackie McDonald (51:24):
And but again, everything evolves, and as has
that so where I'm having funright now on instagram is the
instagram channel.
Like I have a wildly wealthywoman channel and it's such a
great way to just like connectwith my community, see who's
really following you and like isthat the same?
Broadcast.
Yep, it's a broadcast channel.
Amber Annette (51:42):
Yeah, I am not on , I'm rarely on Instagram, but
just recently I was like I feellike, if I was going to do
something on that particularplatform, broadcast would be the
way to go.
Jackie McDonald (51:56):
And I'm on Facebook too.
I mean Facebook, instagram,youtube but I found, like I've
liked to build a communitythrough the podcast, like you're
doing.
It's just you feel like you'rehanging out with your besties,
you know, having conversationsand so yeah, I, I'm still on
Facebook, uh, here and there,but I have, I'm not an active
group at the moment.
Amber Annette (52:17):
Yeah, I hear you.
I mean I post, I'll do anoccasional real or video, but
not nearly as, not nearly asmuch as some other.
Actually, email has always beenmy favorite, Honestly like.
I've always loved to communicate, I love to write, so that's
always kind of been like themajority of my time has been
there.
But podcasting, oh, it is thebest, it is my.
(52:42):
I mean, you saw me right.
Like all my guests are usuallylike you become like a different
person when wait, wait, why doyou start?
Punk it.
Just, it does it.
I love, I love this podcast somuch.
Yeah, so um, awesome.
Well, I will make sure all ofyour, all of your details are
going to be in the show notesand I cannot wait for my
audience to meet you and learnfrom you and tap with you.
(53:05):
And now, in true the businesspsychic fashion again.
No, no pun intended, but nowit's time for me to tap in and
give you a business reading.
Are you ready, girl?
Jackie McDonald (53:16):
I'm so excited.
Amber Annette (53:17):
Yes, thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So I don't know if this isalready something in the works
or if you've been thinking aboutit, but I so strongly get that
you need an app and it's tap thetapped app, tapped, tapped app.
(53:39):
Like anything along, anything.
You're like laughing, so I mustbe picking up something here.
It is.
Jackie McDonald (53:48):
I don't want me to tell you, but yeah.
Amber Annette (53:50):
So I think that that is like paving the way for
billionaire status for you.
I see that not only just likeserving.
I don't even know that.
It's, sir, like yes, could yourcurrent community like learn
from it, be served by it?
Yes, but here's where you'regoing to take it to a different
(54:13):
level.
Is you're going to go to likeworkplace wellness programs
everywhere and say like this isyou know, for your company to
pay a hundred dollars a month tobe a subscriber to it?
All of your employees getaccess to it?
And that, to me, bringing this,I feel like you'll be one of
(54:38):
the first practitioners to getEFT into workplace wellness
programs.
So that, first and foremost, Idon't even know that we need to
like talk about anything else,because how can we make this app
happen so you can become mylike first billionaire podcast
guest.
Jackie McDonald (54:58):
This is so wild , amber, because at that psychic
telling you like crazy.
So at the Omaha event, dreamBigger I in my speech randomly
decided to get everyone that waslike, if you have a bigger
dream, stand up and tell me whatit is.
So people were like voicing it.
And then later that day I waslike, okay, I'm going to voice
mine.
And I was like I have a dreamto build a hundred million
(55:20):
dollar company through an app.
Like I need to build a tappingapp.
And I've been doing it behindthe scenes my membership.
I've been stockpiling thevideos because I've done tapping
every day, five days a week forfive years.
So I have thousands of videos.
And that's what I said out loudand I was like I have no idea
how it's going to happen, butI'm just going to say it.
So the fact that you're sayingit is wild, Like that's what I
(55:44):
meant to make happen.
Amber Annette (55:52):
Yes, wild, like that's what I meant to make
happen.
Yes, and I am going to give youa little bit of coaching.
Right back at you, you'reresisting it.
I can feel it Like the universeis like showing me this, like
big, um, oh, you're loving, justlike pretending you're building
the app.
Behind the scenes is what thisguide is saying, like the
(56:14):
stockpiling, the planning, and Ithink You're looking at this
like long, long term strategyfor the app instead of just this
in the moment.
Energy of just get it started.
You can refine and define it asyou go.
(56:36):
Get it started.
That will be.
I think it'll go way fasterthan any launch you've ever done
before.
I think that will be the thingthat will get you so much more
visibility.
I like that.
This other thing that comes inoff of the side here, um, like
the word sponsorship, you know,like getting like sponsored ads,
(56:58):
those kinds of things aroundthe app, I think will be so much
quicker, faster, because it'snot just going to be for
entrepreneurs, it's going to befor everyone.
I think that's the other thing.
Right Is, this feels like itcan really be a movement for the
masses.
I just I really hope you feelthe energy behind that one, it's
okay.
(57:21):
So normally I would then ask atthis point is there, you know?
If you could tap into anybodyin spirit, like who would it be?
But I don't even need to askyou because I feel your dad, um,
and I and I know you said thatI feel that entrepreneurial
(57:44):
spirit just from him, like notonly just, not only just your,
your biggest cheerleader, butyour biggest fan.
But he says to me the greatestpart out of everything is, yes,
(58:06):
of course, watching all of yoursuccess and the half like yes,
yes, he's like yes, yes, yes,he's just like, literally.
That's why I said cheerleader,right?
However, he wants you to knowthat part of his greatest legacy
is watching you become the momyou've become.
That's his greatest legacy.
Is what he's saying?
That it's not about business,it's about the legacy of
(58:31):
continuing of you being a mom,watching you be a mom.
Jackie McDonald (58:36):
Wow, you got me .
Amber Annette (58:40):
Yep, welcome to the show.
Yes, he is also referencing acoffee cup.
Anything about a coffee cup forhim?
A white coffee cup, blacklettering, anything about that.
You're laughing, so it must besomething.
Or why that would be something.
Was he a coffee drinker?
Jackie McDonald (59:00):
yeah, I can see .
It's funny.
My mom has these coffee cupsthat she's had forever.
And as soon as he said that, Ipictured it, because he used to
have them in the lodge and I'mlike, oh my God, there's two
left in there.
There's no writing on it.
I don't think.
Well, there's one in hercupboard that has writing, but I
don't know what it says.
Amber Annette (59:18):
But yeah, maybe ask her to like what is it?
It was his specifically.
I've not like what is it?
It was his specifically.
I've known like that'll beinteresting to see.
Like what's on this coffee cup?
(59:38):
Um, there's something about that.
Like he like, um, breakfast,breakfast space, that morning
time I don't know if that's justwhen you're like most or most
open or have more space, buthe's really just saying he wants
, he's, he is very present andconnecting with you during
during that time.
He says she, she, you're a sign, you're a sign, you're a signs
(01:00:04):
person like you, like your signs.
But he's wanting to go.
I feel like something even morethat's so specific that it's
you are, your vibration isalways putting you in position.
He's saying so you're gettingthis, the numbers, the angel
(01:00:25):
numbers, the he shows me,they're around you constantly.
So he's saying he wants you andhim to right now, in this
moment, have your own specific.
He's saying something new,something specific from from him
.
Does that match?
Do you feel like you're gettingall the coincidences, all the
synchronicities and he's sayinghe wants to give you something
(01:00:48):
in this moment specific?
Does that make sense?
That he would say that?
Jackie McDonald (01:00:52):
I feel like it's coming and I'm curious, um,
because I am really connectedto nature and I have always
lived in nature Like I've neverhad neighbors and like the
Eagles lately are nuts, like Isee three Eagles at a time and
I'm like, oh my gosh, and I talkto him a lot when I'm driving,
but I feel like it's coming,like the more you talk, I'm like
(01:01:14):
trying to figure out what he'sshowing me.
Amber Annette (01:01:19):
So what's interesting is, you said eagles,
but I didn't see an eagle.
He showed me a nest.
Hmm is?
You said Eagles, but I didn'tsee an Eagle.
He showed me a nest.
Um, which to me is like kind ofgoes back to where he was
saying you know about you tohave a daughter, do you?
Yeah, you have a, yeah, youhave a daughter.
Um, so that's kind of that's tome like, when I think of a nest
(01:01:41):
, I would think of like takingcare, like a bird taking care of
, like.
So I would say I'm going to gowith that.
I would definitely say nestsomething with something with
odd Is it an odd sign for sure,but nest eggs, something like it
will be.
You will be like are youfreaking kidding me?
(01:02:01):
Like you are going, you aregoing to know.
Like, are you freaking kiddingme?
Like you are going, you aregoing to know.
And then the other thing is didhe love music?
Was he like, was that a guitar?
Okay, so he's also saying, likeit's not random, um, is this I
I don't know, I could be totallywrong like Jimi Hendrix?
(01:02:21):
Was that kind of like a thing?
Jackie McDonald (01:02:24):
for him that era of music he liked to like.
Yeah, he played guitar, so heloved guitarists, yeah.
Amber Annette (01:02:30):
I have no idea of Jimi.
I think Jimi Hendrix was likethat's not like an artist I'm
super familiar with, but likethat type of like.
I think it was like guitar,that kind of feeling.
It's not coincidence when here,starting soon, that type you're
, it's going to be everywhere,it's going to be everywhere for
you.
You're going to be like, oh mygosh, dad, okay, I got you.
You're going to feel it.
Jackie McDonald (01:02:52):
Oh my goodness, amber, this is wild.
I had my birthday last week andI was really craving a reading
and I was like, but I don't know, I know so many people in this
industry, but I was like, but Idon't know, like I know so many
people in this industry, but Iwas like, not, like I couldn't
figure out who it was.
Amber Annette (01:03:09):
It's totally, because it's happy birthday.
Jackie McDonald (01:03:15):
Thank you so much.
I this was the clarity that Ineeded and, like the sign that I
needed and the nurturing that Ineeded and, like you said, the
quickness of it.
I think that's what I hide in.
I was like my other friend,megan.
She's building a hundredmillion dollar app for women,
like female entrepreneurs thatare scaling to six figures.
It's amazing, like she's thereason that I had my first six
(01:03:38):
figure launch and I'm likehaving like she's like, oh, it's
going to happen in these likecertain five year, 10 year
processes.
So in the back of my mind, I'mlike, yeah, like just you know
it'll happen, but I know I haveto make it happen, like I have
to initiate and that it could benext week.
People could like I can seeright now the way that I could
(01:03:59):
just build the app next week andit could be running, so it
could be up and running.
Thank you.
Amber Annette (01:04:03):
You're so welcome and thank you so much for being
on this episode.
I hope you loved it.
I know my audience is going tolove it and for everybody
listening, I just want to take amoment and say thank you so
much for being here with me andgo, be in your gift until next
week.
(01:04:23):
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Welcome to the Business Psychic Podcast, where
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Whether it's the soul-ledconversations with my guests,
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I'm your host, amber Annette,and I'm thrilled to be here with
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It's about purpose and beingfully in your gifts.
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secrets to building a businesswith soul, purpose and magic.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Business Psychic.
I'm Amber Arnett, your host,and today I have the fabulous
Jackie McDonald here and we aregoing to be talking about EFT
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tapping.
If you're not familiar withthat, you are going to want to
stick around, because it isgoing to be an absolutely
magical episode for you.
So let me tell you a little bitabout Jackie.
She is the founder of TappingSchool, where she teaches women
how to release and receive withEFT tapping.
Tapping is a somatic formtherapy that is famous for its
fast and effective ability tohelp you release anxiety,
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physical pain and overcome evenlimiting beliefs that you may
have.
For the past 13 years, jackiehas been teaching women and
children around the world how touse this fabulous technique not
only to heal, but actuallycreate a life that they love
from the inside out.
Her mission is to get tappinginto the hands, hearts and homes
(01:47):
of people worldwide, and Ithink you are going to find that
she has an amazingly uniqueperspective on tapping.
Jackie, welcome, I'm so excitedyou're here.
It has.
We were just talking rightbefore we hit record.
As I feel I do with a lot of myguests.
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's likepast lives in this life.
Here we are again.
It's been a hot minute.
(02:08):
How are you girl?
Oh my gosh.
Jackie McDonald (02:10):
It's so good to be here.
I'm so excited to share withyour audience the magic and
power of tapping.
And I was thinking we met Idon't even know like maybe seven
years ago, eight years ago itwas a long time ago and you had
such a profound impact on mylife Like it was so cool.
Thank you.
Amber Annette (02:28):
I appreciate that .
I think we sometimes forget tolike, reflect for, reflect, like
just in general, on, like thepeople that have been a part of
this wild, amazingentrepreneurial journey.
So, thank you, I appreciatethat.
Here's the reason I know it was2017.
So it was almost eight yearsago.
(02:50):
I am not a huge astrology person, even though I'm a psychic
medium which people are alwayslike Nope, very different.
I don't, astrology is verydifferent but I happen to pick
up on that, like Venus is inretrograde right now.
So, if you guys are, if you'relistening to this episode, uh,
we're, we're recording it, uh,mid March and, um, so Venus is
(03:11):
in retrograde and I was likewell, what does that mean?
You know, I'm an Aquarius andso I've been very fascinated by
the, you know, age of Aquarius,and so that's kind of what
piqued my interest in astrologya little more this year.
And, anyway, one of the thingswas anything that you were doing
in 2017, you need to be likepaying attention to, because
(03:32):
it's coming full circle for youin 2025.
So ideas you didn't complete,you know any of those things
like now, like you got a windowhere, like with this, with Venus
and retrograde.
So I was going through my 2017journals, and I had been
journaling about what I wasgoing to speak at the event that
you and me were both at.
So that's that's how I actuallyknow.
Jackie McDonald (03:53):
I mean, I could probably even tell you almost a
specific date, because I waslike oh, isn't that interesting
Full, so many things, fullcircle you know that's so cool
and I remember I think I washosting the event with our
friend Dajon and you, I think,closed the day or you were at
like the end of the day and youdid a psychic reading and you
picked me in the audience and Idon't know if you remember this.
(04:17):
Yeah, you picked me in theaudience and you were starting
to just I think you pickedsomeone else you were describing
to them and I was like I thinkthat's mine.
And you were describing mydad's energy and you said
something about a briefcase,which was really cool because it
was one of the last things thiswas one of the only things I
actually like of meaning that heleft behind and I knew where it
(04:37):
was and when I went home Iopened it and there was one of
because my dad built heli-skiand cat-ski lodges up here in
Canada.
There was a drawing that hedrew a picture of his next lodge
and it was in that suitcase andyou telling me that made me
find it.
It was so cool.
Amber Annette (04:55):
Oh my gosh, that gave me goosebumps, I would say.
One of the things that isprobably a gift and a hindrance
all in one is what I callpsychic amnesia.
It's when I deliver messages, Ido readings and I don't retain
(05:15):
any of it, and I I understandwhy, right, Like it would be
impossible for me to likeremember everything and hold
onto that for all.
I mean in the.
In the 11 years I've been doingthis, I've probably done
probably close to 10,000readings at this point, and that
includes like individualreadings, group readings, Like I
mean, it's, it's that many,it's it's just been amazing.
(05:36):
But that is like the one thingthat I wish I would have done a
little bit more was likedocument a lot of those moments
for people, Um, because I don'tremember once.
It's kind of like over and donewith it's.
It comes to me and through me,for the person.
So I love hearing stories likethat I do.
I love hearing those storieslike that because, um, it's
(06:00):
almost like a first time for metoo.
Jackie McDonald (06:03):
Yeah, that sounds amazing, I know.
Amber Annette (06:06):
I know Sometimes I mean sometimes it's really
wild Like somebody will.
I've had people come up to meat like target and they're like,
oh my gosh, like how are you?
And I'm like I am so sorry,like I don't remember, and that
they've like been in my office,had like full on readings, where
I've been to their home, donegroup readings and I'm like I
have no idea who you are.
It's bananas, it's it is.
(06:26):
It is that intense.
The psychic amnesia is real.
So anyway, I love hearing thatI'm so excited to catch up what
you've been up to over theselast.
I mean I know you're stilldoing a lot of the similar
things, but just at such aprofound level.
I mean I see you from time totime in social media and I am
just so excited to.
(06:47):
As soon as I realized I waslike I've never had anybody on
to talk about tapping.
You're my girl, so let's do it,I'm honored.
Jackie McDonald (06:56):
Yeah, I mean, my business really blew up from
when we got together in 2017,2018 on.
Uh, I really started to like Igrew a school, so I created
something called tapping schoolwhere I everyone was asking me,
like Jackie, will you teach metapping?
And I was deflecting and I waslike no, go to other people.
Like there's lots of peoplethat teach tapping.
(07:16):
Like don't come to me.
I didn't want to teach it inthe way everyone else was
teaching it and I didn't realize.
That's why people wanted me toshow up and create a
certification.
And so I decided, okay, well,I'll step into this.
But I had to do a lot of my ownwork around it because I had a
fear of, like you know,disrupting the industry or not
teaching it the same way.
But I put it out there and, ohmy gosh, like right away, people
(07:41):
signed up.
But my first cohort we had sixpeople right away and then from
there it scaled and grew yearafter year.
I think my biggest cohort hadover 50 people in it.
Oh, that's amazing.
And yeah, it's become a movement.
Right, we just built a movementwith Tapping School to get
tapping into the hands, heartsand homes of people all over the
world and doing it in a waythat, like traditionally, eft is
(08:02):
known as a technique to helpwith things like PTSD and trauma
which I do teach pieces of thatbut I started using it in my
own personal journey to manifestthe things I wanted in life and
to create the greatest,grandest vision that I had for
myself, and so that's what Ipersonally did, and then I
started showing people how theycould do the same, and that's
where Tapping School was bornVery cool.
Amber Annette (08:29):
Well, for our listeners that maybe don't know
what tapping is, kind of sharewith them a little bit about.
I mean, it can definitely be,it can definitely be a visual
like sometimes seeing it, but Ithink also just hearing like a
great definition of like what istapping.
You know, kind of give us therun the, the rundown to maybe
anybody listening who doesn'tknow, or just a refresher to
people who, um, I mean, causetapping's been around forever.
I mean, I think it just likeand you know, like we were
(08:52):
talking kind of before we hitrecord here it but to me tapping
has never been trending, right,it's never.
It's always been, it's alwaysbeen a foundation, a
foundational healing modality.
Right, it's not something thatcomes and goes or um, but I
would say, from a visibilitystandpoint, you don't always
(09:12):
hear about it or you kind offorget about it, or so, anyway,
just kind of share a little bitabout tapping, um and like,
maybe even like your firstexperience where you were like
holy shit, like this work.
Jackie McDonald (09:24):
Yeah, I always say tapping is a better
experience than explained,because it looks kind of weird
Like the first time I saw it.
I was like, am I really havingto do this right now?
Amber Annette (09:34):
But um do you know what I call it?
Oh my God, this sounds horrible.
I call it finger acupuncture.
Jackie McDonald (09:40):
It's similar.
You know it's very similar.
Amber Annette (09:46):
It's like acupuncture with your fingers,
like it is right way to describeit.
Jackie McDonald (09:48):
So EFT so it's official name is emotional
freedom techniques, also knownas EFT, but we call it tapping,
because you're tapping onacupuncture points on the face
and bodies.
Instead of like putting aneedle there, you're tapping on
these points and it's like ablend of Eastern medicine and
Western psychology.
So you're tapping on thesepoints and it's like a blend of
Eastern medicine and Westernpsychology.
So you're tapping on points andyou're saying statements like
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even though I feel reallyanxious today, I love and accept
myself anyway.
Or even though I really want tohit this goal in my business
and I don't know if I can do it,I love and accept myself anyway
.
Or even though I really want tolose weight, there's a part of
me that doesn't think I can doit because I've tried it in the
past and it hasn't worked and Ilove and accept myself anyway.
So there's different languagingthat we use, obviously depending
(10:29):
on the topic that we're tappingon.
And what happens when you tapis that you are pretty much
resetting your nervous system.
There's the part of your braincalled the amygdala which
controls that fight or flightcenter, and just by tapping on
these points you're soothing theamygdala so you don't have to
believe in it to work, you don'thave to say the right words for
it to work.
(10:50):
You can just tap on thesepoints and you're going to
notice.
People will yawn, people willcry.
Sometimes you feel kind of awave of feeling tired for a
moment.
Then you feel really energizedagain.
It's resetting the nervoussystem in a really fast and
efficient way.
Amber Annette (11:04):
And nervous system, like that topic is
everywhere right now.
I feel like all of a sudden,everybody is a somatic coach or
everybody's like helping withnervous system rewiring or
something like, and I know we goagain like just kind of where
we were talking about tapping.
Like I know that we go throughdifferent.
You know trends and phases likethat.
You know in the online, uh,self-development space, healing,
(11:29):
um, spirituality, like kind ofall of those kinds of genres,
right, um, but why do you thinkthe language change, the
messaging is changing aroundthis?
You know, before nobody evertalked about the nervous system
reset, nobody ever really talkedabout even somatic healing.
(11:51):
Like I would say, those twothings have become kind of
buzzwords, I would say over thelast, maybe just even year even,
I feel like is when I reallystarted noticing it.
Jackie McDonald (12:02):
Well, I think, because it works.
You know people are realizingthat this work works and being
solely in, you know, just yourdriven take action mode, only
gets you to a certain point.
And there is a big shifthappening right now where, you
know, the feminine is rising.
And I believe in both.
I believe that your body has tobe on board with who you're
(12:22):
becoming is what I teach, and soyou can have this vision for
your life.
But if there is an anxiety inyour chest or you're getting
migraine headaches, there's apart of you that doesn't feel
safe.
Stepping into that and workingwith that part of you is
actually the key to unlockingthat next level.
And I think you know there'sall kinds of incredible
researchers, there's so many newbooks coming out.
(12:43):
People are realizing that thiswork has worked for centuries
and now that it's just becomingmore acceptable and more
mainstream, because before itwas kind of, you know, being
like, oh, that's woo, woo.
But it's like people are wakingup to the world and the things
that work, and I think that'swhy it's taking off.
Amber Annette (13:05):
So I want to talk about the somatic aspect of
this.
Right, like I, about threeweeks ago, I follow this online
influencer and love her contentlike love everything that she's
kind of putting out and she putout this webinar where she was
going to talk about, like whyit's important and how to reset
your nervous system and somatichealing all of it.
(13:25):
I was like really excited,attended this, sat in this
webinar and not once was thereever actually an example of how
that, how to do it Right, and sothat took me down a rabbit hole
of like how do you actually andalmost all of the people that I
(13:48):
like started following from acontent creator perspective
coaches all the things were notreally even explaining or
showcasing, showing like how todo that for your body, but
tapping does, like it's very,it's the how.
I'm like are people just like,not like is it a gatekeeping
(14:13):
tactic?
Like what is going on with that?
We're like nobody is reallyshowing what somatic healing is.
They're just talking about it.
Jackie McDonald (14:22):
Yeah, and that's why I always say it's
better experience and explain.
With tapping I actually leadwith the experience versus lead
with the explanation, cause Ican talk to you all day long
about the science behind tappingand how and why it works, but
until I would rather just tapwith you and in two minutes you
see your anxiety go or sometimesit's a little longer, but go
from a 10 to a four to a zero,like in 20 minutes or less.
(14:42):
I can decrease your anxietyfrom a 10 to a zero, guaranteed.
I've done it for 13 years.
I know the process, but it allstarts with, like you as the
guide, as a human.
So my first question to alwaysask is you know, close your eyes
, tune into your body.
How are you feeling right now?
And if it's a goal that we wantto hit, so how are you feeling
(15:03):
about that goal?
And I always say resistance isthe roadmaps.
If you're saying like I know Ican hit it, but there's just
like something there, okay, whatis that something there and
where does it live in your body?
And usually people say it's inmy chest, it's in my head, it's
in my stomach.
Great, that's.
Our body is talking to us, it'stelling us there's a part of me
that doesn't think I can dothis, then what we do is we rate
(15:24):
it on a scale of zero to 10.
So if I have some resistance inmy chest around going after
this big goal and it's like aseven, there's languaging that
we use depending on the numberthat you give.
So if your number is high, ifyou're like between an eight and
a 10, that tells me thatthere's a lot of subconscious
resistance and we need to dowhat's called venting tapping
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and you just need to vent outall the reasons why you don't
think you're going to hit thegoal.
And it's saying things likeI've done this before and it
didn't work.
It's so frustrating, I'm afraidof failing, I'm afraid of
putting myself out there what ifpeople laugh at me?
So that the numbers have a lotof meaning in tapping and it
helps you, as the consumer know.
Numbers have a lot of meaningin tapping and it helps you, as
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the consumer know.
Oh, this is actually what Ishould be saying at this level.
The second stage is what we callthe releasing, letting go stage
, and this is where you'll hearlanguaging change.
So it's like, even though Iwant to hit this goal.
There's a little bit ofresistance here, but I'm open to
letting it go.
And the cool thing is is whenyou work with the body.
You'll say it and you'll feelit.
The body will be like, yes, Ido feel ready to let that go,
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and you'll.
You'll feel that convictionbehind your words.
The third stage is where youstart using affirmations.
This is when your subconsciousbrain is primed, prepped and
ready to receive an affirmationso you can say things like I'm
going to the next level.
Now I can see this businesscoming to life, I can feel this
vision happening in real time.
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You'll say it and you'll feelit because your subconscious is
on board with that vision, yoursubconscious now believes it yes
you got it.
Amber Annette (16:58):
And I think that for those that believe and are
truly embody, I would say, likethe law of attraction, right, I
think most of us especially ifyou've, if you've been doing
this work for a while for wewere told that our thoughts
create our reality.
(17:19):
You know, what you thinkbecomes your reality, and that
just does not ring true for meanymore.
It's that our beliefs createour reality, and so that's why I
love, that's why I loved, likeEFT, like so many of the
different modalities that areout there, because we all know
that well, if you don't know,our beliefs come from our
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subconscious and I think sooften we see, you know, I'll see
my clients, or I mean evenmyself, or my kids, like all
kinds of right, all kinds ofpeople in different experiences,
where they're, they just can'tfathom and understand why
something's not working for them.
Jackie McDonald (17:58):
And that's why it's because there is a deeper
rooted, subconscious belief thatinsert yeah, you know, xyz,
whatever the reason, and that'swhat we got to get to the root
of in in completely heal andclear and that's something that
in tapping school that I teach,that you won't learn anywhere
else, is that the body is thesubconscious mind there's a
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great book by candice pert thatexplains that but in the body
will also show us parts of self.
So say you're like, yeah,there's a part of me that really
wants to go fast and build thisthing, but there's also a part
of you that's scared.
And so with tapping we can talkto that part of you that's
scared, we can talk to the partythat wants to go fast and we
can get them to work together.
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So you're not internallybattling each other.
The other cool thing is, onceyou get into that, that part of
you that's scared is oftenlinked to a past memory.
And that's where we go in andwe actually tap with your
younger self.
So it's not just, like you know, doing inner child work.
It's tapping with your innerchild is a completely different,
profound experience, becauseit's the somatic piece.
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Yes, your inner child canprocess mentally what happened,
but the body keeps score.
So when the body releases thememory, it's a whole different
type of movement that startshappening, are you?
Amber Annette (19:12):
perfect.
Yeah, yep, yep, I'm reading itright now.
Um, and help me, I think,understand this part that I like
again.
Like I remember when I firstkind of came and entered into
the space, tapping was one ofthe Brad Gates.
I watched some of the old BradYates tapping who I mean it's
(19:32):
like the OG of tapping Right andwhat made me stop tapping and I
don't know why.
Like I didn't like the Isometimes the negative
reinforcement, right, I at thetime I was like this is so
counterintuitive, this doesn'tto me in the moment I was like
(19:56):
this doesn't feel right, like Idon't like saying these things,
I don't believe these things,and that's what made me actually
like kind of get away from itand look for different
modalities.
Can you kind of talk about likehow that works, like with the
subconscious?
Like you know, I've again goingto like law of attraction,
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right, it's like we want to bemindful of the words that we're
speaking, because that becomesour belief.
So it's like enforcing thepositive.
But how do you clear thenegative, get into that kind of
part of tapping?
I've always been fascinated bythat.
Jackie McDonald (20:27):
First of all, girl, you gotta come tap with me
because this is what this iswhy.
This is why I created mymovement, because people people
that tap with me know Jackiedoes it different.
That's the thing I hear themost, and it's because I
actually do the opposite to him.
Um, where I will do like youknow, you have to release the.
The quote unquote, negative iswhat's really going on
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subconsciously for you.
So it's like it's saying it'sraining outside, it's not good
or bad, it's just what is it'sraining.
If you don't like rain, thenit's not a good day, right.
But we all have this internaldialogue that's running and the
way to take your power back fromit is to get it out and let it
go, and we do that throughtapping.
But one of the things that I sawa lot of people do is stay in
that space and then they didn'ttake people to the next level.
(21:11):
And that's what I created in mymethod.
I call it the McDonaldmanifestation method.
It's like let's tap into yournext level.
So I do a lot of affirmativetapping, where it's not just
affirmative but affirmativevisioning, where I'm like I am
building a movement and I canfeel this movement being built
in me and I can see it comingtogether and I can feel it and I
was born to do this, and so Istarted focusing more on that.
(21:34):
I ran a 21 days of tapping andaffirmations program and that's
what really blew up my business.
But in a tapping liketraditional tapping sense, they
do that repetitively becausethat is what's releasing the
subconscious resistance I justfound they would stop at that.
I just explained, like levelone, level two, level three,
they would stop with the leveltwo.
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They wouldn't take it.
Amber Annette (21:56):
They wouldn't take it all the way to level
three and just like keepreinforcing it, like keep
listening to this, keeplistening to this.
Yeah, so that must have beenprobably the point that I got to
where I was like I don't wantto say this and believe this
anymore.
You know, like this and youcause you don't right, I was,
yeah, I was ready to graduateonto McDonald, manifesting, for
(22:17):
sure, the McDonald method,because I, I mean that made me
then go look for, like, okay,what's not necessarily my next
thing, but also okay, what canhelp me kind of have my next
break here, or what can, yeah,like what can?
I think you know, I mean I'vedone hypnosis.
I mean I love, I love hypnosis.
Jackie McDonald (22:37):
I mean, I think , combined with this, you know,
like all the differentmodalities, but I think so what
my approach is like usingtapping as an accelerator and an
activator, because you can tapinto who you're becoming.
And that's one question I askeveryone, and I would ask
everyone that's listening today.
Write down the sentence thewoman I am becoming is and just
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let that land for a moment.
Think about how would I answerthat Like.
The woman I am becoming is.
Maybe she's healthier thanshe's ever been.
She's unstoppable, she's a mom,she's a multimillionaire, she's
leading a movement.
Start writing that out and thenwhatever you write out, that's
what you tap in.
(23:20):
So you're going to read thatand tap that through.
The woman I'm becoming is anunstoppable force.
She is building a movementaround her message and that's
where you'll start to feel anactivation happen in the body.
The body will start to rememberwhat it feels like to be that
future self.
Amber Annette (23:37):
So when you say the body, this is let me tell a
little bit of story here why Istarted reading the body um,
keep score, the body keeps score.
So I started going to the gymthis year and I realized I, hey,
this is like the most I've everworked out in my life.
(23:58):
I'm going like religiously andit feels so good, I love it when
I'm there.
But I realized when I was thereI like didn't want to sweat.
And I know that sounds likestupid, right, like we're
obviously going to like we'regoing to the gym to work out,
but like right before I wouldget like really hot or start
sweating, I would stop.
I would kind of like pull backand stop myself.
(24:19):
And I was like something justtold me like that was a
resistance.
There was like some my body waslike not even wanting to let go
of that Like and I was like whatelse is my body not willing to
let go of?
And that brought me down thisjourney of like.
And it was just like thisintuitive insight that I had
(24:40):
when I was at the gym of likesweating is a form of somatic
healing in a way, like workingout is like all, like all of the
we need to be moving all ofthis out of our body, just like
out of our body, just like outof our mind, just like anything
else, right, like we move thingsaround our environment, we're
always like, but we don't do itnecessarily out of our bodies.
(25:02):
And I just had this again likekind of like the psychic insight
to like ourselves, what are ourcells, our body like holding on
to, and that tapping, workingout all of these like things
combined with, just combinedwith, not I don't want to just
say like positive affirmations,but intentions even, can be so
(25:23):
clearing of what is holding usback from believing and really
believing that we can become whowe want.
Jackie McDonald (25:32):
Yeah, from believing and really believing
that we can become who we want.
Yeah, that's such a beautifulexample, because what I would
recommend doing and what I teachin tapping school is to get
curious with our bodies versuscritical, because our body is
truly our best friend.
It's the thing that wakes upwith us every single day.
It'll take whatever we put init and do its best.
It is here for us and I don'tthink we've been taught that as
women, it's the thing we've hadto battle against for so long.
(25:53):
And so in tapping school, Ispend a lot of time teaching you
how to communicate with yourbody.
So if there's something toresistance, like sweating, it's
like oh, curious, like what, Iwonder what that's about.
And just doing like five, 10minutes of tapping around it,
you'll probably come up withright to the root of why.
And ultimately it's the bodysaying feeling safe enough to
let it go.
And you're just going to startto say to the body it's okay to
(26:15):
let this go now, we're safe,we're good, and you'll feel your
whole system release and relaxand it'll be interesting.
Next time you go to the gym,I'll listen to you be like wait,
I'm sweating and I didn't evenrealize it.
Amber Annette (26:25):
Yeah, and that was like a couple of weeks ago,
and so that's what I'm, almostexactly what I started doing.
Like I often say, curiositieslead to callings, and those
curiosities definitely led me torealize, like not wanting to
push myself, like I was holdingon to a lot of like judgment,
fear, body, all the like, allthe things Right, and did some
(26:49):
hypnosis, or like, at the time,did some hypnosis around it and
then, like, since I've beengoing to the gym, I've been like
pushing my, like not, I justdon't care.
Jackie McDonald (26:56):
Like and I created a like.
Amber Annette (26:59):
I'm trying to now instill a belief that, like,
I'm sweating what out what doesnot serve me Like it beautiful
affirmation which gets me pumpedto like reinforce the habit of
becoming the person that goes tothe gym all the day.
It's just so I think we canfind, you know, I think we can
find these opportunities to growin any particular situation.
(27:23):
When we look for thatresistance and you know I think
we resist sounds again it kindof sounds like pretty, but we
resist the resistance even.
Jackie McDonald (27:34):
you know, we looking for it, looking for the
opportunities, and I I alwayssay resistance is the roadmap to
get you where you want to go.
When a client comes to me andthey're like, oh, I'm so
frustrated, like you know,there's resistance there, I'm
like, oh, we're, we're on theedge of gold, like that's my
golden nugget, because I cantell within 10 to 15 minutes of
(27:55):
tapping that resistance is justshowing you the key to your next
level.
There's a part of you therethat needs to be seen in order
for you to elevate, and so assoon as we see her and she feels
safe, then boom, you're good togo.
So anytime you're feelingresistance, it's a roadmap to
your next level.
And I always say your body'snot here to hold you back, it's
here to help you and it'll sendyou messages through symptoms
and signs and you have the powerto talk to the body through
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something like tapping.
Amber Annette (28:20):
What are you think are some like common
things that maybe you have seenfor your clients, that are
indicators that tapping wouldwork.
Or it's like it's in thesubconscious, it's in the body,
like what are some really goodindicators that no amount of
strategy is going to get themthere, no amount of, you know,
(28:42):
marketing, whatever right, yeah,no amount of action is going to
get them there.
What are some commoncommonalities you see?
Jackie McDonald (28:50):
Well, I work with women at all levels but,
like my high level women, theyhave come to me with anxiety.
They feel like they're makingmore money but they have more
anxiety than ever and when theywalk into a room, even though
they're the leader of theirindustry, they feel like an
imposter when they walk intothat room.
So that's like my high levelclients.
That's kind of what we'reworking on is helping them feel
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safe in their success and beingable to have success and peace
at the same time.
Feel safe in their body, feelrelaxed, like they belong.
It's okay for them to take upspace, it's okay for them to be
celebrated.
So that's one symptom.
Another one is visibilityblocks.
So they know what they need tobe doing but they're not doing
it because there's a fear ofbeing seen at some level,
(29:35):
whether that's maybe they'realready showing up in their
posting, but they could be goingto another level and they're
not being seen for some reason.
Time to come tap with me.
Or they are having a strangesymptom in their body.
Like, I work a lot with womenwho right now I'm working with
somebody who's going through.
She had an explant done andshe's done all the other things
(29:57):
for her body.
She's taking the supplements.
She's like doing the outer work, going to the gym, but there's
some deep inner forgiveness thatshe had to do with her body
forgiveness, work and her, hertrusting her body and her trust,
her body trusting her again.
So it's oftentimes when peoplehave done all the external
(30:18):
things that get them to acertain point and there's a
deeper level there.
Tapping can get to the root ofit quickly and we can get you
like it.
It's an accelerator.
It will move them very quicklyto that next level of healing
money, love, whatever it isthey're looking for.
Amber Annette (30:34):
Yeah, I think what's interesting is I think
those are just some of the mostcommon you know, whether I guess
it's high level women that arealready like crushing it in the
industry, or sometimes even likeyou're just starting out brand
new, right, like new level samedevil.
(30:56):
You know, it's like, it's kindof the same Like.
If I think about, even formyself, some of the things it's
like what I was sharing with youabout, like, going back and
reading my journal, I was like,I don't want to say like
frustrated, but part of me waslike man, the, the thoughts I
(31:16):
was having back then are trulystill some of the same thoughts
and things I'm journaling andwriting about now.
And yeah, how much time is like.
And at the same time, jackieright, there was also a list of
like, all of these things that Ilike, wanted to like my, it was
like my 2017 desire list.
(31:36):
Right, girl checkmark next toall of those.
Fast forward to today.
So it's like, oh my gosh.
And yet here I sit, stillhaving some of the same thoughts
that 2017 me had.
Jackie McDonald (31:49):
So yeah it, and that's one thing I love to talk
with women about.
I'm actually hosting a visionboard party this Friday because
I find, yeah, I find a lot ofwomen are like you and I, like
you've done it, like youmanifested dream homes, you've
with your dream partner, likelots of the things you've asked
for have happened.
But there's a greater levelthat you could be playing at,
(32:11):
and I just went, I just spoke atan event called Dream Bigger.
Megan Hales put on thisbeautiful event.
Amber Annette (32:16):
I need to get her on here.
Jackie McDonald (32:18):
Yes, it was such a great event and I she
gave me the keynote spot, whichis so such an honor.
But being at that event was anactivator for me because I
started sharing some of the bigdreams that I've secretly had
but haven't said out loud.
And for the past two years I'vebeen writing down every day
that I'm a happy, healthybillionaire.
Like I write that down everysingle day but I wasn't telling
people because I was afraid of,like what people would think.
(32:41):
And then I started sayingthings like oh, I'm raising my
daughter with a billionairemindset and it felt edgy.
Or I don't just have clients, Ihave celebrity clients and I
think that there's a greaterlevel for a lot of women right
now that we could be playing at.
But we haven't claimed.
And one of my core philosophiesis that your body has to be on
(33:02):
board with who you're becoming.
So if you're saying thesestatements and there's a little
bit of like I don't know if Ishould say that out loud like
that might ruffle some feathersthat's the time to tap.
It's just.
It's just helping again thebody feel safe to elevate to
that next level.
So I don't know if any of thoseresonate with you or what your
next level is Amber if there'ssomething bigger you're ready to
(33:37):
claim.
Amber Annette (33:37):
That's like do we ever overcome some of these
like past traumas, these pastlimiting beliefs, to the point
where we're just like man, I'mgood, like I don't need hypnosis
anymore, I don't need, I havebecome so, I don't.
I think there's sometimes acatch 22 in this, a little bit,
you know, of like, if I'm, ifI'm wanting to become her, and I
(33:59):
just, and then I just shift myenergy to say, well, I am her,
well, does she need thesemodalities?
Or do you know where I'm goingwith this?
Yes, have just like.
When.
Like when does theself-development become the
addiction and the thing that'sactually keeping you from being?
Jackie McDonald (34:22):
Well, in my perspective, I have always used
tapping to connect with God andI don't think that there's ever
going to be a time that we stopevolving or we stop being faced
with fears or resistance.
I just find that we're able tobounce back quicker.
So it's not that I every levelis like, oh, finally, I just
don't need these things anymore.
(34:43):
It's like I can just getthrough those moments quicker.
And with tapping I always liketo use it, for I tap into what's
called your wildly wealthywoman, which is your future self
, and I spend a lot of time withwomen there, like who is she?
And she changes.
Sometimes she's dressed inwhite, sometimes she's in a
t-shirt and jeans, and takingthat advice from your future
(35:05):
self has been, to me, a key tothe evolution.
But going back to your questionof like when will this ever
stop?
I?
To me it's a spiritual practice, like I don't look at it so
much as a personal development.
I look at it as like tapping ismy time with God, which is
really time with myself.
Amber Annette (35:25):
Oh, beautiful.
I've always considered tapping,hypnosis, maybe even
forgiveness work, my ownmodalities as that modalities,
mindset modalities, versus aspiritual practice, and maybe
that's because I have like aseparate spirit, like I call
(35:47):
mine coffee with the universe,right, like I am tapped in, kind
of talking to spirit, I think,all the time where, no, no pun
intended, untapped in, but like,um, you know what I mean, like
I yeah, I don't know, I, I thinkI just am always talking, like
I, I use universe, just universe, god, spirit, source,
(36:11):
interchangeable, all the words,right, I've never thought of
these modalities that way.
So that's an interestingperspective because, right, I
would never stop, I'll neverstop, coffee with the universe.
And maybe it's more of um, youknow some of these things,
thinking of it more as likemaintenance mode, versus, and I
(36:34):
think it's how you learn tappingtoo.
Jackie McDonald (36:36):
Right, if you learn tapping, cause it is
traditionally taught as like ahealing modality, and that's
where I it's why I just createdmy method.
It's so much more than that.
I can show you the magic oftapping, which is really the
magic of yourself and coming toit as an amplifier, like if
you're having coffee with theuniverse throw some tapping in
(36:57):
there and it'll sink into yourbody faster too.
Yeah, so I'm like let me giveyou a session.
See a session.
I'll show you how we can makeit not just again.
Amber Annette (37:08):
Can we do it here , like where people can like
listen, like can we do it.
I was going to say like let's do, let's do that so that they can
.
And it's always fun to bringfull circle, like back when
people have been on on thepodcast and I can be like here's
an update, like those are,those are the best for sure.
So I mean I know you do likethe majority of your business
(37:30):
online.
Let's kind of talk about thatside a little bit.
You know both right before yourschool, your certification.
Just kind of get into that side, the online marketing space
side of it too.
Jackie McDonald (37:42):
Yeah, I know I will get into that in a minute.
I know before you mentionedlike you have a lot of people
that have online businesses, butyou're also interested in
working with women that are likein brick and mortars.
Some of my top clients aren'tin an online business.
They're in mortgage or in realestate and or their partners are
, like you know, contractors.
And it's so cool to work liketapping can be worked with
(38:04):
anyone on anything but I didchoose to build my business
online 13 years ago.
Tapping found me at my worst andbrought me to my best.
I was 19, had my daughter andwent into like my own healing
mode and went to all the doctors.
They were like you're just atired new mom, you'll figure it
out, you'll get better.
But I had to take my healthinto my own hands and that's
(38:25):
when tapping taught me that Ihad a lot of grief that was
stored in my body and I was like, okay, if this helped me, this
can help others.
So that's why I chose to bringit online and my journey with
that was I wrote a letter to theuniverse and I said I want to
be in a community of women thatthink like I think and do the
things that I do.
At that day that I wrote thatletter, I was working in an
(38:47):
accounting office doing being abookkeeper and I was like this
is not what I meant to be doing.
I was listening to LewisHowell's podcast and I was like
I'm supposed to be the one thathas the podcast, you know, and
that later that afternoon wentonline and I saw some random
Facebook posts.
It was like from the FemaleEntrepreneur Association.
Someone posted in there thatthey were doing an event.
(39:11):
The event happened to be twohours from where I lived and
that you could win a spot tospeak on stage.
And I was like I'm winning thatspot.
So if you sold the most tickets, you won the spot.
I sold the most tickets, wonthe spot on stage, tapped with
this room of femaleentrepreneurs and all had
Facebook groups and they werelike oh my gosh, you moved the
room.
Will you come tap in myFacebook group?
So that's what initially got meonline, as I started tapping in
(39:34):
Facebook groups and then Idecided I'm going to do a
Facebook live, like I'm going totap on Facebook live.
So I called it Tapping Tuesdayand the first live I was like
I'm going to tap on anxiety,because that's what tapping is
known for helping helping peoplewith anxiety, but I look like
I'm having an anxiety attack.
On going live was like oh mygosh, it just came out like it
(39:57):
was a brand new feature.
So I'm like sweating and likelike trying to tap and say these
words and all my like my highschool friends are on my aunts
and cousins and I'm like, oh myGod, what is she doing?
But then people startedmessaging and they're like, oh
my God, jackie, my anxietydecreased.
Whatever you just did workedand I was kind of like, really,
(40:19):
I'm surprised because I looklike a mess, but that's what
brought me into the online spaceand I started tapping every
Tuesday, built this Facebookgroup and then 2020 hit and
everyone was at home and anxiousand I had this technique to
help people feel less anxiousand build a business from
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anywhere.
And that's when Tapping Schoolreally like I had my first
six-figure launches.
It was like a massive expansionin my business and how that
evolved was like I was gettingpeople like such fast results.
Well, they were gettingthemselves results because they
were learning tapping.
Then it evolved.
All those people have graduated, they have built successful
(41:02):
businesses a lot of them offline, like just through their
communities and asking me like,how do you build an online
business?
So I've been exploring that thepast year.
I ran something called salesschool for healers, which has
been a huge hit, but theindustry has changed since 2020
to now.
It's changed a lot and it goesback to basic business
principles.
You, as an entrepreneur, areplaying a lot of different roles
(41:27):
and as a healer, that's onerole.
But if you want to have anonline business, you're a
marketer, you're a customerservice, you're in sales.
So teaching the practitionerslike look, you have to learn
other skills and entrepreneursare innovators.
So just because what wasworking in 2020 might not work
right now doesn't mean thatthere's anything wrong.
(41:48):
It just means that we'reevolving and, as an entrepreneur
, you have to evolve.
Yes, so that's kind of myopinion on it.
I don't know if that's wherethe answer you're looking for,
but oh, yeah, no, no no, no.
Amber Annette (42:00):
I think I think at the core of business, at the
core of being an entrepreneur,is somebody is gifted, and I
think that's that's probably mynext evolution in business is I
don't.
I don't want to say it's likenot teaching, I don't know that
(42:21):
I want to teach business as muchas I want to help entrepreneurs
really see that their bestmarketing strategy is leading
with their gift and their heart.
Yeah, there's something more, Ithink I I love marketing and I
(42:41):
love sales, and to try to infusethat passion into somebody else
and get you know what strategymaybe work for me or one of my
other clients to work for youknow a room, an online Zoom room
full of 50 other people is, is,I just don't think, realistic
(43:01):
anymore.
I, everybody has a uniqueenergetic blueprint, you know,
and that blueprint is made up ofbeliefs, it's made up of
experience, it's made up ofenergy, their intuition, and
that's why I can't teach aframework anymore around
(43:22):
business, because I don't.
First of all, I just don't, Idon't, I don't believe in five
steps and this framework.
The things I used to evenbelieve in in this, in business,
I don't believe in necessarilyanymore, and so it's hard to
really I can't teach it anymore.
If I don't believe in it, Iobviously can't teach it anymore
.
So but what I do believe in andwhen I really sat with that,
(43:43):
like I was like I don't, youknow, talk about resistance,
right, like I did not want to goout and be like come take this
masterclass with me and learnabout intuitive messaging, or oh
, like it just felt awful, Ididn't want to do that anymore.
I just can't.
But what I, or sales or any ofthat, but what I do, what I do
want is for people to realize,at the end of the day, what
(44:09):
people buy is your gift.
That's what people want to be apart of.
It's your gift.
It's when you're passionateabout your gift, and so helping
women expand those gifts isnaturally going to lead to them
expanding their wealth, theirincome, their impact all the
things that you know, the womenlike you and me work with.
Jackie McDonald (44:29):
So yeah, it's definitely I.
I agree with that and I think Itend to attract what I call
unconventional women, and whenan unconventional woman tries to
fit into a traditional orconventional and like I'm not
just saying like be a doctor,but like an online way, it
messes with their mind and thenthey think there's something
wrong with them when there'snothing wrong with them.
(44:51):
And last year I worked withsomeone who's very well known in
this industry.
She's amazing.
I love her, but her, her styleis very like authority driven
and it's like you know, this iswhat you have to do if you're
going to make sales.
And so I started doing that, butit didn't feel like me and it
(45:12):
didn't even sound like me, andwhat's always worked for me is
leading from the heart, isshowing up, sharing who I am and
speaking from the heart, and Icould feel like it felt off,
like I was like why is this sohard?
Like content has never beenhard for me.
Why does it feel hard?
But it's because I was tryingto follow someone else's formula
, and when you're anunconventional woman, like
you're a trailblazer, likeyou're not meant to follow.
Amber Annette (45:34):
You're meant to lead, yeah.
Jackie McDonald (45:36):
And that's why you can't fit into everyone
else's stuff.
Amber Annette (45:38):
It's because you are meant to create your own way
and inspire your people tocreate their own way with you,
yes, and I think that's wherethere's, you know, when we talk
about, like, the shifts that arehappening.
I think that's that's one ofthe core shifts.
For me is, though and it's notthat I, in the moment that I
used to talk about these thingslike they were very real, like I
(46:00):
believed in them and like, butagain, like we, we get
permission to evolve our messageas well, we get, you know, and
I think that's what's hard whenyou start to make some pivots in
your business, when you startto have a new direction you want
to go.
It doesn't mean that what Ionce believed doesn't matter.
(46:21):
It's just that I've now I don'tknow, I guess reached a new
level of beliefs and areas thatI want to focus on or talk about
, or passions, and I think thatthat's that evolution is
necessary, and I do think thatthere are people that need a
formula.
I do think that there are peoplethat need the step-by-step,
(46:42):
that need the detail.
I just can't be the person togive that to them.
That's step that need thedetail.
I just can't be the person togive that to them.
That's that's not what my nextphase of of business.
That's just not my next phaseof what my business looks like.
Jackie McDonald (46:54):
So and it depends where you're at in
business.
Certain seasons you will need aformula and a framework, like
when I teach tapping school.
There's a framework to tapping,like, yeah, you need to know
some basics, but it's also anart and everyone has their own
style, and we really encouragethat in tapping school.
Here's the great basics thatyou need to know.
Now go play with it and test it, and that's why we have so much
practice time in tapping school, because then you start to see
(47:16):
new methods be born out of outof my method, right, and I
encourage that.
Like it doesn't need to staythe same, and you don't either,
because, like you said, you'regoing to evolve, so your
business will too.
Um, but as long, I think, aslong as you stay connected to
your heart, you don't lose yourheart in it.
Amber Annette (47:34):
That's the main thing.
Sell with heart what you createwith soul.
Right girl, amen, so good, um,well, what else do you got?
So I know one of the thingsthat we had talked about is your
gift that you have for mylisteners, which is like
basically a brand new to tappingkit.
(47:55):
Tell them a little bit about it, because I want to make sure
they go to show notes.
They grab it from you.
So kind of get into that alittle bit.
Jackie McDonald (48:01):
Yeah.
So it's a tapping starter kitand it's if you've never heard
of tapping before or if you'venever tapped with me before,
it's a great starting place.
It's going to give you a PDFwith what what points do we
actually tap on when we're usingEFT, a script so you can try
tapping on your own, and a videowith me walking you through it.
So I kind of gave you a quickversion in our episode today.
(48:22):
But it's like actually breakingthose points down and the first
question I always ask is youknow, what is it that you want
or desire?
How do you want to feel?
And I ask myself that questionevery day because I do tapping
every single day.
I do affirmation tapping withmy community and I'm like okay,
what do I want to feel today?
Why, what's stopping me fromfeeling that way?
And we teach you how to releasethat really quickly and then
(48:44):
get into that really beautifulaffirming space.
So I would highly recommend goget that download.
I always have fun free thingsgoing on too, Like right now I'm
doing a tapping.
It's called the Wildly WealthyOne Vision Board Party.
So we're doing tapping andvision boarding.
I have a I call it the make ithappen movement.
I'm working with women who arereally making big things happen
(49:04):
this year and I tap with themevery week, so there's always
fun things going on in mycommunity, and the best place to
hang out with me is onInstagram, at the Jackie
McDonald, or on my own podcast,which I'll have you on the
Wildly Wealthy Woman podcast.
Amber Annette (49:18):
Oh, my gosh, please Instagram, not so off of
Facebook groups like is thatkind of trend, kind of hit hit,
it hit?
Jackie McDonald (49:28):
the.
You know where I started.
Amber Annette (49:31):
I started in Facebook groups Also.
I came across a group I don'tknow if you were ever in it the
entrepreneur incubator withBecky Dixon.
Were you ever in that one?
Yes, that was my very first.
It was like, right, whenFacebook groups came out, it was
my very first group.
I went in the group and I justdecided to like I was still
(49:52):
working at the time, like allthe things I decided to do a
group of a post to the like.
And I remember I was like sorryabout the sweating, right, I was
like sweating.
I was like, okay, like what ifsomebody from my work is in this
?
I was like nobody from yourfreaking work is in this
Facebook group.
Like, first of all, right, Ijust I remember sitting at my
kitchen counter going through itand I was like, okay, I'm just
going to do it, I'm going to putthis out there.
And I was like you know I'm abusiness psychic and I just want
(50:14):
to like, use this gift andcomment here If you want me to
no-transcript.
And I did in the Facebook grouppeople reached out, booked
(50:37):
private sessions, it just it.
I mean literally one postchanged my life and again, kind
of talking about full circle,right, like.
I think we sometimes need toremember that it just takes one
second for something, for onesecond and your whole life can
change in the most amazing,brilliant way.
(50:59):
And we get.
It's my favorite number.
I'm actually like pretty sureit's going to be my next tattoo.
But 86,400, that's how many weget every day Like, and it just
takes one of those you know andevery like wow.
Anyway, that's that's my littlelike shout out to like man
Facebook groups they, they weremagic.
(51:22):
They were, they really were.
Jackie McDonald (51:24):
And but again, everything evolves, and as has
that so where I'm having funright now on instagram is the
instagram channel.
Like I have a wildly wealthywoman channel and it's such a
great way to just like connectwith my community, see who's
really following you and like isthat the same?
Broadcast.
Yep, it's a broadcast channel.
Amber Annette (51:42):
Yeah, I am not on , I'm rarely on Instagram, but
just recently I was like I feellike, if I was going to do
something on that particularplatform, broadcast would be the
way to go.
Jackie McDonald (51:56):
And I'm on Facebook too.
I mean Facebook, instagram,youtube but I found, like I've
liked to build a communitythrough the podcast, like you're
doing.
It's just you feel like you'rehanging out with your besties,
you know, having conversationsand so yeah, I, I'm still on
Facebook, uh, here and there,but I have, I'm not an active
group at the moment.
Amber Annette (52:17):
Yeah, I hear you.
I mean I post, I'll do anoccasional real or video, but
not nearly as, not nearly asmuch as some other.
Actually, email has always beenmy favorite, Honestly like.
I've always loved to communicate, I love to write, so that's
always kind of been like themajority of my time has been
there.
But podcasting, oh, it is thebest, it is my.
(52:42):
I mean, you saw me right.
Like all my guests are usuallylike you become like a different
person when wait, wait, why doyou start?
Punk it.
Just, it does it.
I love, I love this podcast somuch.
Yeah, so um, awesome.
Well, I will make sure all ofyour, all of your details are
going to be in the show notesand I cannot wait for my
audience to meet you and learnfrom you and tap with you.
(53:05):
And now, in true the businesspsychic fashion again.
No, no pun intended, but nowit's time for me to tap in and
give you a business reading.
Are you ready, girl?
Jackie McDonald (53:16):
I'm so excited.
Amber Annette (53:17):
Yes, thank you, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
So I don't know if this isalready something in the works
or if you've been thinking aboutit, but I so strongly get that
you need an app and it's tap thetapped app, tapped, tapped app.
(53:39):
Like anything along, anything.
You're like laughing, so I mustbe picking up something here.
It is.
Jackie McDonald (53:48):
I don't want me to tell you, but yeah.
Amber Annette (53:50):
So I think that that is like paving the way for
billionaire status for you.
I see that not only just likeserving.
I don't even know that.
It's, sir, like yes, could yourcurrent community like learn
from it, be served by it?
Yes, but here's where you'regoing to take it to a different
(54:13):
level.
Is you're going to go to likeworkplace wellness programs
everywhere and say like this isyou know, for your company to
pay a hundred dollars a month tobe a subscriber to it?
All of your employees getaccess to it?
And that, to me, bringing this,I feel like you'll be one of
(54:38):
the first practitioners to getEFT into workplace wellness
programs.
So that, first and foremost, Idon't even know that we need to
like talk about anything else,because how can we make this app
happen so you can become mylike first billionaire podcast
guest.
Jackie McDonald (54:58):
This is so wild , amber, because at that psychic
telling you like crazy.
So at the Omaha event, dreamBigger I in my speech randomly
decided to get everyone that waslike, if you have a bigger
dream, stand up and tell me whatit is.
So people were like voicing it.
And then later that day I waslike, okay, I'm going to voice
mine.
And I was like I have a dreamto build a hundred million
(55:20):
dollar company through an app.
Like I need to build a tappingapp.
And I've been doing it behindthe scenes my membership.
I've been stockpiling thevideos because I've done tapping
every day, five days a week forfive years.
So I have thousands of videos.
And that's what I said out loudand I was like I have no idea
how it's going to happen, butI'm just going to say it.
So the fact that you're sayingit is wild, Like that's what I
(55:44):
meant to make happen.
Amber Annette (55:52):
Yes, wild, like that's what I meant to make
happen.
Yes, and I am going to give youa little bit of coaching.
Right back at you, you'reresisting it.
I can feel it Like the universeis like showing me this, like
big, um, oh, you're loving, justlike pretending you're building
the app.
Behind the scenes is what thisguide is saying, like the
(56:14):
stockpiling, the planning, and Ithink You're looking at this
like long, long term strategyfor the app instead of just this
in the moment.
Energy of just get it started.
You can refine and define it asyou go.
(56:36):
Get it started.
That will be.
I think it'll go way fasterthan any launch you've ever done
before.
I think that will be the thingthat will get you so much more
visibility.
I like that.
This other thing that comes inoff of the side here, um, like
the word sponsorship, you know,like getting like sponsored ads,
(56:58):
those kinds of things aroundthe app, I think will be so much
quicker, faster, because it'snot just going to be for
entrepreneurs, it's going to befor everyone.
I think that's the other thing.
Right Is, this feels like itcan really be a movement for the
masses.
I just I really hope you feelthe energy behind that one, it's
okay.
(57:21):
So normally I would then ask atthis point is there, you know?
If you could tap into anybodyin spirit, like who would it be?
But I don't even need to askyou because I feel your dad, um,
and I and I know you said thatI feel that entrepreneurial
(57:44):
spirit just from him, like notonly just, not only just your,
your biggest cheerleader, butyour biggest fan.
But he says to me the greatestpart out of everything is, yes,
(58:06):
of course, watching all of yoursuccess and the half like yes,
yes, he's like yes, yes, yes,he's just like, literally.
That's why I said cheerleader,right?
However, he wants you to knowthat part of his greatest legacy
is watching you become the momyou've become.
That's his greatest legacy.
Is what he's saying?
That it's not about business,it's about the legacy of
(58:31):
continuing of you being a mom,watching you be a mom.
Jackie McDonald (58:36):
Wow, you got me .
Amber Annette (58:40):
Yep, welcome to the show.
Yes, he is also referencing acoffee cup.
Anything about a coffee cup forhim?
A white coffee cup, blacklettering, anything about that.
You're laughing, so it must besomething.
Or why that would be something.
Was he a coffee drinker?
Jackie McDonald (59:00):
yeah, I can see .
It's funny.
My mom has these coffee cupsthat she's had forever.
And as soon as he said that, Ipictured it, because he used to
have them in the lodge and I'mlike, oh my God, there's two
left in there.
There's no writing on it.
I don't think.
Well, there's one in hercupboard that has writing, but I
don't know what it says.
Amber Annette (59:18):
But yeah, maybe ask her to like what is it?
It was his specifically.
I've not like what is it?
It was his specifically.
I've known like that'll beinteresting to see.
Like what's on this coffee cup?
(59:38):
Um, there's something about that.
Like he like, um, breakfast,breakfast space, that morning
time I don't know if that's justwhen you're like most or most
open or have more space, buthe's really just saying he wants
, he's, he is very present andconnecting with you during
during that time.
He says she, she, you're a sign, you're a sign, you're a signs
(01:00:04):
person like you, like your signs.
But he's wanting to go.
I feel like something even morethat's so specific that it's
you are, your vibration isalways putting you in position.
He's saying so you're gettingthis, the numbers, the angel
(01:00:25):
numbers, the he shows me,they're around you constantly.
So he's saying he wants you andhim to right now, in this
moment, have your own specific.
He's saying something new,something specific from from him
.
Does that match?
Do you feel like you're gettingall the coincidences, all the
synchronicities and he's sayinghe wants to give you something
(01:00:48):
in this moment specific?
Does that make sense?
That he would say that?
Jackie McDonald (01:00:52):
I feel like it's coming and I'm curious, um,
because I am really connectedto nature and I have always
lived in nature Like I've neverhad neighbors and like the
Eagles lately are nuts, like Isee three Eagles at a time and
I'm like, oh my gosh, and I talkto him a lot when I'm driving,
but I feel like it's coming,like the more you talk, I'm like
(01:01:14):
trying to figure out what he'sshowing me.
Amber Annette (01:01:19):
So what's interesting is, you said eagles,
but I didn't see an eagle.
He showed me a nest.
Hmm is?
You said Eagles, but I didn'tsee an Eagle.
He showed me a nest.
Um, which to me is like kind ofgoes back to where he was
saying you know about you tohave a daughter, do you?
Yeah, you have a, yeah, youhave a daughter.
Um, so that's kind of that's tome like, when I think of a nest
(01:01:41):
, I would think of like takingcare, like a bird taking care of
, like.
So I would say I'm going to gowith that.
I would definitely say nestsomething with something with
odd Is it an odd sign for sure,but nest eggs, something like it
will be.
You will be like are youfreaking kidding me?
(01:02:01):
Like you are going, you aregoing to know.
Like, are you freaking kiddingme?
Like you are going, you aregoing to know.
And then the other thing is didhe love music?
Was he like, was that a guitar?
Okay, so he's also saying, likeit's not random, um, is this I
I don't know, I could be totallywrong like Jimi Hendrix?
(01:02:21):
Was that kind of like a thing?
Jackie McDonald (01:02:24):
for him that era of music he liked to like.
Yeah, he played guitar, so heloved guitarists, yeah.
Amber Annette (01:02:30):
I have no idea of Jimi.
I think Jimi Hendrix was likethat's not like an artist I'm
super familiar with, but likethat type of like.
I think it was like guitar,that kind of feeling.
It's not coincidence when here,starting soon, that type you're
, it's going to be everywhere,it's going to be everywhere for
you.
You're going to be like, oh mygosh, dad, okay, I got you.
You're going to feel it.
Jackie McDonald (01:02:52):
Oh my goodness, amber, this is wild.
I had my birthday last week andI was really craving a reading
and I was like, but I don't know, I know so many people in this
industry, but I was like, but Idon't know, like I know so many
people in this industry, but Iwas like, not, like I couldn't
figure out who it was.
Amber Annette (01:03:09):
It's totally, because it's happy birthday.
Jackie McDonald (01:03:15):
Thank you so much.
I this was the clarity that Ineeded and, like the sign that I
needed and the nurturing that Ineeded and, like you said, the
quickness of it.
I think that's what I hide in.
I was like my other friend,megan.
She's building a hundredmillion dollar app for women,
like female entrepreneurs thatare scaling to six figures.
It's amazing, like she's thereason that I had my first six
(01:03:38):
figure launch and I'm likehaving like she's like, oh, it's
going to happen in these likecertain five year, 10 year
processes.
So in the back of my mind, I'mlike, yeah, like just you know
it'll happen, but I know I haveto make it happen, like I have
to initiate and that it could benext week.
People could like I can seeright now the way that I could
(01:03:59):
just build the app next week andit could be running, so it
could be up and running.
Thank you.
Amber Annette (01:04:03):
You're so welcome and thank you so much for being
on this episode.
I hope you loved it.
I know my audience is going tolove it and for everybody
listening, I just want to take amoment and say thank you so
much for being here with me andgo, be in your gift until next
week.
(01:04:23):
Be in your gift until next week.
Thanks for listening to thisepisode.
I hope it inspired and ignitedyour entrepreneurial spirit and
turned up your intuition andtrust in the universe.
Make sure to check out the shownotes section for access to
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