October 11, 2022 • 38 mins
TIMESTAMPS!
3:18 - Megan Thee Stallion paid $250K for Future to rap a verse for her new Traumazine Album.
4:34 - Drake getting his Face Tattooed
5:19 - Tony Jefferson being Criticized for Not wearing his glasses
6:00 - Wearing Glasses
14:33 - Frank Gore Accused of Grabbing a Naked Woman by her Hair
17:50 - 21 Savage Complains about Gun Culture
28:18 - Rubi Rose "N" word Controversy
32:33 - Aaron Rodgers taking Ayahuasca
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Zach (00:00):
The best teachers are just people who haven't, like, you
Unknown (00:03):
know, experienced a lot,
Zach (00:05):
you know, like, yeah,
Johnny Mansun (00:06):
I also had a teacher Professor last semester
that was my religion like WorldReligion professor and he was a
trip. It was as old as whitedude, but like literally banging
like reggaeton folk in likejamming before class. He's like,
I want everyone to show up like10 minutes early so we can all
(00:28):
listen to music together andlike relax and like, get into,
like, the vibe, and I'm thinkingYo, he's like, I'm, uh, I'm
gonna like he says, he's like an80 year old, like white dude.
And he's like, I went to Bostonfor school. And he's like, just
so you know, like, no one givesa fuck about your degree, like,
no one cares. Like, he's justranting and just talking about
like Jesus and like Muhammad andlike, all this shit. And I was
(00:50):
like, I would I love that shit.
So I would always like talk inhis class. I don't know. It's
really interesting. Whatever.
I'm going I'm ranting right now,but,
Zach (00:58):
you know, reminds me of though. He reminds me somewhat
of like, the dude we had inEnglish, you know? Yeah, senior.
Johnny Mansun (01:06):
Yes. In that same that dude when he's old. Yeah,
that's when he's like 70 Same
Zach (01:13):
type of vibe. Just the way you were describing him already
knew what type of
Johnny Mansun (01:16):
Dela Cruz Dela Cruz his name he doesn't even
teach anymore. I was living on afarm all the time fucking making
his own mushrooms and lead tohim. Shout to him, y'all. We
love you, bro. Without yourclass. The butcher shop wouldn't
exist. Yeah, a real one yearthis teacher
Zach (01:38):
was so cool. We played like 21 Savage like on the
fucking screen. And like he wasvibing with it. We had a project
and he like told us like hey,like pick a song to like
describe your senior year likeyour high school experience. And
like he let us choose anythinglike what again? He was such a
cool teacher.
Johnny Mansun (01:58):
I think what a G Holy fuck.
Zach (02:00):
Yeah. What a good way to start it. Let's respect shout
out to you man. Shout out togood teachers. Let's go ah,
Episode 26 Back in this monthFoster
Johnny Mansun (02:14):
26 episodes in
Zach (02:16):
type shit. If I'm not like, wrong it's 27 I'm not. Is
there? We definitely have somany lost episodes. One a little
girl.
Johnny Mansun (02:30):
Yeah. 26 was really like 56 So
Zach (02:33):
it's the butcher shop.
What's up man? We're back.
Welcome. How are you man? John?
Johnny Mansun (02:40):
I'm good. Yeah, you think in an alternate
universe we called our podcastthe meat shop.
Zach (02:46):
The meat shop I honestly I you serious?
Johnny Mansun (02:53):
I literally so I have this joke with Jerry at
work where I'm like, I'm likeyo, I'm gonna do the love above
party with Johnny is Jay Yeah,yo, I'm gonna start a podcast
called the meat shot
Zach (03:07):
Yeah, hey, man, if he wants to competition Let's go.
Johnny Mansun (03:12):
Oh, yeah. So what do we got today? We got a lot to
talk about a lot going on in theworld. This is not in any
specific order by the way. Letme just look through this. I
mean Megan the stallion paid 250racks for future to go fucking
on Adderall Adderall and I focuson Adderall
Zach (03:37):
it's so funny that you say that because she paid that much
money and I have not heard thatsong neither have I so you know
it's a business Hey man, I hopeit you know did a lot for and
progressed her career
Johnny Mansun (03:56):
I wouldn't know I don't listen to her
Zach (03:57):
that future verse focusing on how to row
Johnny Mansun (04:03):
i and I know that because I haven't even heard the
song but I saw in the commentsof the tweet where I saw
whatever Yeah, not much likebars like from genius of him
saying like the same line fourtimes and I just already knew
I'm like I know that it'sfucking weak.
Zach (04:20):
He sent that shit in bro he didn't give it four rows
faded he's like yo plug in runout or oil Yeah. To him and 50
to go spin this shout out domainstallion we're not hating on
you. We love you
Johnny Mansun (04:36):
honey we're gonna keep doing your thing keep
making your fucking money keepfucking running it up respect
all love. Yeah, so crazy shitcrazy shit. Drake got his
fucking face tatted now forfinally caves into that fucking
hype. Rap. Fuckin should callit. He got his mom's initials.
Zach (05:01):
I mean, I can't hate him for again that he feels like
that
Johnny Mansun (05:04):
but facetite Your Drake though? Yeah, whatever
Zach (05:07):
he wasn't going to pop up in in the movies or nothing like
that. And if he does that,they're not going to not have
him because he has such a smalltat
Johnny Mansun (05:15):
and you can literally cover them. They do
that for actors on their fuckingbodies.
Zach (05:22):
Shout out the Sanju gram Nokia facts
Johnny Mansun (05:32):
I'm not gonna say when I was about to say so.
Yeah, speaking of a while andyou saw Tony Jefferson the
second straw he has been comingunder fire recently as he should
as he should because he's beenon he's been getting exposed on
the internet for missing gaps bylike fucking 10 yards like
(05:53):
missing shit like not seeingpeople like not knowing who has
the ball and shit and he talksabout how what he he stopped
wearing his glasses.
Zach (06:02):
Yeah, literally blind. Go ahead say it. Yeah, he
Johnny Mansun (06:05):
said I can't even lie. I stopped wearing my
glasses years ago.
Zach (06:12):
This is a wild thing for professional
Johnny Mansun (06:15):
glasses right now like so what happened is that I
wear contacts but my contactsare like backordered so I
haven't got them so I'm like ina period of time where it ran
out and I don't have any so Igotta wear my glasses whatever
but I just got these glasseslike month ago I'm trying to
flex them anyways so ladies,
Zach (06:30):
let's go all the way okay
Johnny Mansun (06:44):
now this is called stripe SassaFrass if
you're interested but
Zach (06:49):
i i gave me what goes on the
Johnny Mansun (06:54):
rug or the Warby Parker we were in the Percy
medium not the wide the mediumyou know fit my face they're
affordable to
Zach (07:05):
them not not not an ad not
Johnny Mansun (07:10):
I swear I'm not even sponsored it's just I've
been I've been I've been wearingtheir glasses for fucking five
six years really folk
Zach (07:21):
Warby Parker.
Johnny Mansun (07:23):
I say that I say that one actually hear stories
so they have a couple of storiesand I wanted to go and figure
out which ones I wanted. So Imet with my mom we went we went
to Wynwood and because they gotto store down there right in the
heart of Wynwood so like ohlet's go get glasses and we'll
go you know grab some grab itwherever I go. I show up she's
fucking taped up like not tapedup like I was gonna say boarded
(07:49):
up but it didn't have likeboards on the Windows blog on
the Windows was like film a tapelike saying like, Oh, we're
remodeling, whatever. So likefuck, we had to go drive from
Wynwood to Coconut Grove.
Whatever. We ended up getting abite to eat and when would and
then we went to Coconut Grovegot the glasses whatever
sidetrack side story we're notsponsored by Warby Parker and I
don't even know how I got tothis point. Oh, Tony Jefferson.
gladder? Brah if I didn't wearmy glasses, I wouldn't even be
(08:16):
able to drive. Like, if I drove.
Maybe I could survive. But I'dprobably get into an accident.
For real, like, nah, nah, Icould I could drive but I would
be a danger to other others.
Damn. Yeah, yeah. 100% I wouldnot be I would not be like, No,
I mean, you get a you get an AI,you get a vision test. When you
(08:40):
get your driver's license. Theywouldn't give me a license with
my vision if I didn't haveglasses. Yeah, sure. Yeah. And
so I'm like, I'm thinking atwork. I'm just like, walking
around. And like, I'm sweating.
My glasses are falling off andlike, I never wear glasses. So
it's like, I'm seeing it's likemaking me confront like, how
fucking fucked up my vision is.
And I'm like, thinking tomyself, like, what happened
before people invented glasses.
(09:06):
They were really just thoughtwere ya know that I mean 50 was
like, Damn, that's sad. Like, Ithink about all the people that
didn't have good vision thatdied. My bad yeah, died. Like,
like, before we were alive up.
But they lived without theirvision. Like, I remember when I
first got glasses, like, like, Ilooked at the trees. I was like,
(09:28):
Oh, damn, like, I could see allthe leaves.
Zach (09:32):
That reminds me of just like, watching true life or
whatever that shit was on MTV.
And they would be like, Yo, truelife like, you know, I'm deaf.
And then they like go and like,the person might like end up
having like, their like, youknow, their shit fakes. And just
like different shit like that,because it's like, yeah, that's
(09:52):
crazy, right? You wouldliterally see somebody like here
for the first time. That's causefor like, it was like, damn, or
like, you know, we take thatshit for granted. You know what
I mean?
Johnny Mansun (10:05):
100% 100% And I mean, I could take this on a
whole different like route.
Like, think about the fact thatwe have rods and cones in our
eyes that allow us to see color.
Like we have rosin. We haverods.
Zach (10:17):
No See you. I thought you said Say it. I don't even know
that this sounded. I thought yousaid my country came out. Sorry.
Gosh,
Johnny Mansun (10:27):
South Carolina.
Yes.
Zach (10:30):
Yeah, fuck Clemson.
Gamecocks folk Clemson all
Johnny Mansun (10:34):
the way Oh this year even though the last time
you played a song No Nobody
Zach (10:38):
who fought with Crimson flow would you straight up on
God um but uh what are wetalking about my bad
Johnny Mansun (10:47):
now we're talking about fuck
Zach (10:51):
fuck Clemson this dude Tony Jefferson and Seamus rocky
with no glasses like bro comeon. If you if you have to wear
glasses, or you need to wearfucking that prescription
shitting your eye? What arethose shirts called contact
icons? I know what I mean, bro.
Do that. But the fact that wehave so much film on him like
(11:13):
you know running through thewrong gap missing tackles all
this shit.
Johnny Mansun (11:20):
And for him tweeting and admitting it
finished the tweet so so he'syou know, this
Zach (11:24):
is gonna fuck up some contract negotiations to
Johnny Mansun (11:27):
I mean, bro, they're gonna be like, okay in
your contract.
Zach (11:32):
No way. No boy giving
Johnny Mansun (11:35):
you a vision test before each game if you can't
read the third fucking line fromthe bottom.
Zach (11:40):
Contract void.
Unknown (11:43):
You're missing out on like 800 ran track
Zach (11:46):
fucking four
Johnny Mansun (11:47):
said he said about not worrying about
stopping wearing his glasses. Hesaid, that might have been the
dumbest thing I've done. I cansee I can see so much clearer
and further with my glasses.
It's wild. Who would have thunkyou? Who would have thunk it?
Zach (12:03):
It's insane. Man, who would have thunk it being a
grown ass man. And just likedeciding I don't want to see
Fuck it. I'll just see the wholeworld. Like,
Johnny Mansun (12:13):
blurry, bro. It's like, maybe you know what a
really good,
Zach (12:18):
holy shit.
Johnny Mansun (12:20):
You know what it could be? I think a lot of
people are afraid of touchingtheir eyes. So they don't want
to put they don't feelcomfortable or scared of putting
contacts in. Right? Even thoughyou're technically not touching
your eye or touching a contactthat touches your eye but
whatever.
Zach (12:34):
I don't have glasses. So like wearing glasses is that
uncomfortable?
Johnny Mansun (12:39):
Yeah, like you can hurt like, you know, if you
wear your glasses all day, atleast for me, like and I don't
use usually wear them a lot,like, like right here on my
head. Like right here on myhead. Like it'll get kind of
sorta or want to take them offand kind of like massage it
because it's like, they have topress on your head enough to not
fall off. So it's like pressure.
It's like wearing a ponytail fora girl. Like, you don't really
feel it, you know, but it's likepulling your hair back. You
(13:02):
know, it's like the same thing.
So like, if there's like minorlike things that are putting
pressure on your body, you'llfeel them after a while. So it's
like sometimes I take my glassesoff like massages are like
wearing headphones. They're nowpushing. I have my headphones
over. I knew I knew.
Unknown (13:23):
Knew it. I knew it. I
Johnny Mansun (13:30):
knew it. I knew it. Wait, hold on pause the
situation. I used to have hairbefore I was bald. And I used to
have long hair. So I know whatit's like to put my hair like
try putting my hair into aponytail and that's it's
uncomfortable.
Zach (13:50):
I could agree. Okay, it's so funny because nobody like
watching this video. You have noidea that we both used to have
like long hair and like here weare
Johnny Mansun (14:02):
so but yeah, so what was I talking about? Yeah,
like caught like wearing glassesand knowing the context like
when I first put in context Iwas like freaking out like how
am I get to touch my eye is notthat difficult it I do it now
like second nature it's easierthan brushing my teeth but yeah,
he's probably just scared ofputting in contacts and whatever
(14:23):
doesn't want to do that but he'swilling to like slam his body
against like 200 pound likeathletes like fucking like
muscular as fuck like strong asfuck whatever like that's crazy.
You're scared of that you'rescared of like putting the
contact in but you're just likeyou're playing football in the
NFL whatever as crazy like forme I'm the opposite I'd much
(14:44):
rather put a contact in before Irun the foot through the fucking
gap or whatever.
Zach (14:49):
Run through the a gap I'm definitely
Johnny Mansun (14:52):
lays my shit out on my knocked out I got another
concussion. Yo speaking of CTEand this is not like I'm not
trying to troll but canes.
LEGEND Frank Gore has recentlycome under fire and you know we
have a lot we have a largeaudience in Miami so everyone
knows Frank Gore especially ifyou're from Miami legend out the
you literally to fucking tornACLs and college still went on
(15:14):
to be one of the best rushers inthe NFL like third in all time
rushing yards crazy likeprochains really out here like
whatever. He recently came underfire was trying to hype you up
before
Zach (15:35):
you want me to say
Johnny Mansun (15:41):
like put you on a tight ship not so fashionable.
Yeah. So he, uh, got accused ofgrabbing naked woman by her hair
and dragging her across a hotelroom hallway during an
altercation in Atlantic City,
Zach (15:55):
and the good thing is that we said, you know, accused
accused, you know,
Johnny Mansun (16:02):
according to TMZ, you know, on TMZ is for what
it's worth. It's TMZ and
Zach (16:06):
shit Atlantic City as a like, Garden State native. You
know what I mean? Yeah, AtlanticCity is like Vegas. You know
what I mean?
Johnny Mansun (16:15):
I know there's at least one woman that there's not
like lagers to get dragged byher hair naked. I'm playing I'm
playing like
Zach (16:24):
the butcher shop does not endorse that statement.
Johnny Mansun (16:27):
I'm playing Oh,
Zach (16:28):
my back to the podcast. So like, you know, Atlantic City,
man, it's one of those placeslike Vegas you know what I mean?
I don't know we got to see whathappens. I don't want to like
you know, tear him down and likeyou know, say anything crazy and
yadda yadda because you know,like mentally I don't know what
happened you know?
Unknown (16:48):
And word I didn't even read the article.
Zach (16:52):
No debt as same that's why I'm like shit I
Johnny Mansun (16:55):
feel like people I feel like those people that
were mad are Kelly fans and thenthat shit came out they're like
free our Kelly like I love FrankGore like he's such a good
player in the NFL as a man likeI don't want this to
Zach (17:08):
be true you know how many ACLs he came back from
Unknown (17:12):
to know 1/3 All Time Rush Yeah, yeah, that's pretty
Zach (17:18):
epic. peace to everyone in that situation
Johnny Mansun (17:22):
again you know the obviously the butcher shop
doesn't condone violence againstanyone we do not and you know, I
hope this isn't true and if itis I hope you know the proper
ramifications are you know heldor laid down whatever Yeah, so
speaking of some just wild shitand earth as a human
Zach (17:52):
Oh my god.
Johnny Mansun (17:55):
So like, Greg
Zach (17:58):
fucking poli sci class.
Johnny Mansun (18:02):
Yeah, the debate with a blue haired girl tomorrow
first class book. I have to tellher that like genders are a
thing that people arebiologically born like one or
the other. Unless they're bornwith like, both parts which
(18:22):
happens so anyways 21 Savagecomplains about gun culture and
says quote, we have to we had toquote Put the guns down. What
What's his group called again?
Zack. Can you remind me
Zach (18:37):
slaughter gang?
Johnny Mansun (18:40):
Slaughter gang, bitch.
Zach (18:42):
I thought about this so many times, man and I just think
I understand what he's saying.
Right? Yeah, but with him sayingthis I feel like I should never
hear him say anything aboutshooting someone or anything
like that on a song again,
Johnny Mansun (19:00):
because spin the blood twice. Like they know
where to
Zach (19:03):
say Put the guns down and then promote guns and violence.
Like that makes no sense. Likebro, you can't say you're not a
hippie culture. But he would sayI love his music but that's
literally hypocritical.
Johnny Mansun (19:14):
But he would say I'm not promoting it. It's
entertainment.
Zach (19:19):
You're promoting it through entertainment. What is
your point?
Johnny Mansun (19:22):
Yeah, okay, so what you make a movie about like
serial killer I mean, you'restill like showing people about
being a serious you're not
Zach (19:30):
even just that but 21 Savage has said and has you know
hospital records and shit likethat, bro. He's literally been
in shootouts in different shitlike that. And he's in a gang.
He's promoted gang violence andshooting like throughout his
whole career. So for him to say,you know, put the guns down and
shit like that. I agree with himfor sure, put the guns down. But
(19:53):
I also do think that he shouldalso like, you know, like, talk
about the fact that he you didat one point, promote that? You
know what I mean? And from that,and from that, but he's moving
past Yeah, he's a lot is allabout, you know what I mean?
Johnny Mansun (20:11):
And, and him tweeting this, and this is what
we're talking about. This is atweet thread that we found,
like, he's moving past it, youknow, but he understands at the
same time, what sells and whohis market is, and what, what
sounds cool will gain him money.
So it's kind of like he'sselling this product, knowing
that it's promoting the thingthat he is against, that he may
(20:35):
have ties, like emotional tiesto because it was part of his
past. Right. But he's stillpromoting it. So it's like, it's
the internet and you know,people people have nothing
better to do but you know, callyou out. Yeah. And so if you
say, Atlanta, we need to put thefucking guns down. But you're
(20:56):
talking about spin split, spinthe block twice. You've been
telling
Zach (21:01):
Atlanta to put the guns like, you know, oh, man, like,
Unknown (21:06):
literally,
Zach (21:07):
like, Las Vegas.
Johnny Mansun (21:09):
Like, if I was Will Smith, I would have smacked
him with a stick
Zach (21:12):
like my yo. Nobody told you to say that. You said that.
Oh, my God. It's like,
Johnny Mansun (21:17):
why does he say that? Because it's cool, because
it sells because it's whatpeople want to hear. You know,
so if you want to hear that, andyou know that and you're selling
and you're playing to that, butthen at the same time, you're
saying the opposite on yourtweets. Yeah, that's it, it was
at least he's saying it though.
And I have to give him creditwhere credit is due. Because at
least he's saying that and atthe end, the people that listen
(21:38):
to his music and hear that shitand are really in that lifestyle
and listen to him, because hetalks about that, like they're
not
Zach (21:46):
putting the guns out because he said that they're
not, but
Johnny Mansun (21:50):
someone that they listened to, and maybe respect
is at least saying it as he's atleast as part of their
conscious, because if Joe Bidensays that shit, or some random
fucking person, they don't givea fuck about their conscience
Zach (22:04):
that have a main point of it to me, though, is the fact
that like, I feel like somestreet people would understand
it, and maybe be like, you know,what, hey, if this street dude
who literally, you know, thestreet dude said this, right?
And then he actually is saying,like, Hey, I'm not gonna rap
about that anymore. And I'mgoing to, like, you know, really
(22:25):
get away from that, like, I'mtrying to progress. I want us to
progress. You know what I mean?
If he was to do that, then Ithink like real people who
actually like think, right,would understand it and be like,
Damn, that's actually cool.
Unknown (22:38):
Right? Move by.
Zach (22:42):
But what he's doing right now, and then being like, Nah, I
don't yada yada is not gonnamove. Nobody cuz it's fake. You
know? It's fake. And we all knowthat.
Johnny Mansun (22:53):
Telling people like, Yeah, put the guns down.
But also like, once you get yourmoney up, yeah, like, Yeah, you
don't have to have the guns up,but whatever.
Zach (23:02):
I thought what your 21 but you just keep it consistent.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, if you're gonna saythat, you got to like stop
rapping about but
Johnny Mansun (23:11):
here's the thing we're saying. We fuck with 21
Savage and savage mode, too. Ilove that album. I
Zach (23:18):
was I've been struggling with 21 Savage since like, if I
want to say the song that he haslike that, I that well, yeah,
read it read ops, but I wasthinking about a song he got
called drinking and driving onthe Slaughter Tape. You know
what I mean? And like thatshoots a fire song not promoting
drinking and driving, but I'mjust saying, You know what, I'm
(23:40):
more slaughtering orslaughtering people literally,
right. But like, it's crazy,right? Because I'm done with it.
Johnny Mansun (23:50):
Yeah, stop while you're ahead, bro. We're not in
Pine Crest. Okay. Now, lastthing I want to say though, is
like, fuck. I mean, maybe like,do you think Yeah, okay. So if
you're saying one thing, we'redoing the other and we're
saying, you know, you shouldn'tbe hypocritical, but we love
(24:10):
your music. It's like, Yeah, welove his music. And we love it.
Because it's his music and hismusic is what he talks about.
And we're trying to sit here andsay, change what you talk about,
but I love what you're doing.
Keep doing it. Because he has sohow is he like? He's my message.
Because I want to, because youwant me to keep making music you
(24:34):
like but I shouldn't keep makingmusic you like so I can stand
more firm behind my message thatyou want to say
Zach (24:42):
either tell us the contract either toes to put the
guns down and actually tell usto put the gun down or don't
like what yeah, like yeah, it'sjust that's my whole point.
Yeah, it's like Nobody forcedyou to say this. You came.
Johnny Mansun (24:58):
Is it kind of like well, maybe prisoners do.
It's like they say it, but Idon't really mean that shit. And
yeah, we didn't stop gunviolence, but they don't do
anything to stop.
Zach (25:06):
What's the thing where it's like you? It's a Freudian
slip, where you go and you bringup something that nobody brought
up, but you brought it up. No,you're promoted. Exactly. And
that's my whole thing, man isthat it's literally that, like,
Johnny Mansun (25:24):
I hear you, I hear you. Last thing just to
give 21 his credit. He responds,he
Zach (25:30):
does do a lot. He does do a lot in the community and shit
like that. Don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying and from thispoint of view from like, you
know about what we're talkingabout. I just disagree on that
topic. But he does do a lot.
Johnny Mansun (25:41):
And that's the thing. Like, like I said, I love
savage mode to like, I respectyour music and how talented you
are. You know what I'm justsaying
Unknown (25:49):
what he does in the community. And yeah, right,
right. For me, personally, like,
Johnny Mansun (25:54):
I remember, it's funny. Last night, I was
actually listening to OceanDrive, and I was driving Mike
home and he had never heard thatsong. And we him and I had just
made a song called Ocean Drivethat we're about to drop. And
I've been performing shit, whichhas been going crazy. And I'm
showing him ocean drivers whohad never heard that like, damn,
I told him the story about whenI was at rolling loud in 2018.
(26:14):
He performed Ocean Drive and Iwas like walking from like,
another stage or like, hadgotten food or water or some
shit. I was walking. I was like,behind the crowd. And I was
walking in and I just saw like,the crowd and the stage like the
whole thing. And he's playingOcean Drive. And I'm just
fucking vibing like that. Shewas so fucking dope, very
(26:35):
strong, because like Miami, andit was rolling loud in Miami
eyebrow. I was just like, I lovethat song. Like, I fucking love
that song. So, I mean, keepdoing your thing, bro. But it's
like, it's tough, bro. I just Ireally, I really just look at
it. Like it's just hard to. It'sa difficult situation to be in
because you want to be that youwant to talk about what's real
(26:56):
and you want to like, encouragepeople. Let me ask you this
before we move on to a differenttopic. I know we spend a lot of
time on this, but like, do youthink regardless of like the
hypocrisy or whatever, do youthink that one person? Like you
think he affected at least onehuman being on Earth with that
tweet? I do think there's oneperson out there that saw that
(27:18):
and said 21 said Put the gunsdown.
Zach (27:21):
Fuck no. I'm happy. You said that shit like that?
Because really, bro? I wasthinking about it. And I was
like, man, maybe somebody did.
But then I was like, bro, youthink somebody was like oh, so
who needs to shoot me? I'm notgonna shoot at them because 21
said not to fuck all that shit.
(27:42):
like, Nah, man, that shit ain'tdo nothing bro. You know that I
know that everybody know that
Johnny Mansun (27:48):
word. So last thing I want to say 21 said this
is just to give context. A songis for entertainment. It's not
an instruction manual on how tolive life in real life. I give
away a lot of money and spreadfinancial literacy to my
community stop trying to make meone dimensional
Zach (28:05):
no one's making him one dimensional. I mean, I feel like
he's or did that himself. Butnevermind. Yeah. With his
Johnny Mansun (28:16):
with his music.
Zach (28:17):
I mean, you do like your music. Our podcast is is what we
put out. And his music is whathe puts out and if in every song
he's putting out something aboutshooting somebody, like really
bro think about it as
Johnny Mansun (28:31):
a song without him talking about shooting
somebody. I don't know if youcan find one.
Zach (28:36):
And that's why I'm saying both even if there is right the
fact that we have to reallythink about it is the problem
because he's promoting gunfire
Johnny Mansun (28:47):
right so he's saying stop trying to make me
one dimensional but smoking gunis about one sort of dimension
of life. I mean, whatever realmi No one's perfect you know you
feel me Oh, we all can be cutedoing the show you're doing for
your for your community and onthe ground. That's what really
(29:07):
matters. No cat on Twitter shit.
It's just it's spec. It's notspeculation. It's just it's just
comment. commentary and I shouldmanagement Yeah, just keep doing
your thing, bro.
Zach (29:18):
I'm currently drawers man.
Johnny Mansun (29:20):
Literally weigh more than what the fuck? Any of
that shit is about So Ruby Rose.
Zach (29:27):
Yeah, it's awesome. As
Johnny Mansun (29:31):
I'm, I'm actually gonna make it way worse. So Ruby
Rose says it's okay for nonblack people like me what? To
say the N word. As long as it'snot used in a hateful way. Why
is she the judge? And when Isaid like me, I didn't mean like
me who says the N word. I mean,like a non black person just to
(29:54):
be clear got it. Bye Uh, what doyou think about that? Zack? You
know, like, I don't know. Yeah,what is your opinion on this?
What do you think about that?
Zach (30:06):
I'm not sitting here. I'm you know me. I'm not the fucking
thing police I don't I'm notsitting here doing that man I
got too much shit in my life toworry about. So
Johnny Mansun (30:17):
if someone says if a white dude says the hammer
with a
Zach (30:20):
brush, I'm just saying, Do you think but if somebody
catches you, right, or you know,do some teeth that don't you
know, for help, like, yeah,don't look for me for help. And
like, also, you know, yourealize that you had that should
come in. Yeah. Because no, Idon't know anyone who walks
around saying racial slurs. Likelike it's not like, like, it's
(30:42):
nothing. I don't know. I don'twalk around saying racial slurs.
No, I don't. Like do you knowwhat I mean? I definitely do.
So.
Johnny Mansun (30:51):
I'll say racial slurs to like the Irish. Potato
breath.
Zach (30:56):
I see you're Italian so you have that right. Yeah,
Johnny Mansun (30:59):
cuz people fucking slurs all the time.
Zach (31:02):
Damn for I don't even see that's the thing is I'm not
racist. And I'm not I'm also notItalian. So I
Johnny Mansun (31:09):
have no idea immigrant group, which is about
95% of America has been attackedracist in a racist way. You
know, obviously, there's levelsto this shit. But like the
Irish, for example, areItalians, for example. Like,
like they were there was racistattacks against peep there was
there were signs and Vulcanstores. I said no dogs and no
(31:32):
Irish like, damn. Like this
Zach (31:35):
turn that the butcher shop is like History Channel. But you
Johnny Mansun (31:40):
know, like, whatever. So, yeah, I mean, I
already kind of knew what you'regonna say. But I don't you know
why she's saying that do youthink like, because this is an
interesting topic, we could goreally deep into this topic
because it gets into hip hopculture, like we were just
talking about to get with 21.
You know, like, it gets into itgets into, you know, the history
(32:01):
of America. Like it's a lot tiedinto this topic.
Zach (32:07):
Let me take back a point I said, Ruby Rose does have an
opinion. Yes. She does have anopinion. And she deserves to
have an opinion. Right? But mything is,
Johnny Mansun (32:19):
she's hot.
Everyone wants to say I don't
Zach (32:23):
think that her opinion is valid. Because saying that
people should be able to sayracial slurs just because
they're in songs or yada yada aslong as it's so painful way
sounds so fucking dumb butstill, how do you know how
somebody is saying some shit?
Just because I say some shittingon it and um, I got a smile on
(32:44):
my face. I mean, I don't hateyou broke. So you know what I
mean? Like, it's like that's whyyou know, yeah, point is sort of
invalid but I
Johnny Mansun (32:55):
feel like what she was saying was she was
trying to say without saying itexactly like this is saying as
long as they say it with the Aand not the ER as long as they
sit not in like a that type ofway. But yeah, I feel like a lot
of people agree with you. I feellike a lot of people agree with
you. I agree with you. I don'tsay that shit. I mean, I know
(33:16):
white people that do say thatshit and like, I just look at
them like like kind of like whatyou were saying like okay, but
like you got to come in likeyeah, like like you know and
whatever it's everyone got tolive they got has to live their
own life and has to face theirown consequences and eat even
just personally just how beingconscious and self aware you
(33:39):
know, like everyone says it's ajourney for everyone but
whatever. Yeah,
Zach (33:44):
that's good topic.
Johnny Mansun (33:45):
Yeah. Anyways, moving on. Aaron Rodgers. Let's
do it, bro. be trippin.
Zach (33:53):
What about him? Oh, literally,
Johnny Mansun (33:55):
he's literally tripping. Like he said that he's
like taking a he's takenayahuasca, which is a very
powerful psychedelic brew madewith vines from the Amazon
forest rainforest. And itcontains DMT it's one of the
(34:16):
strongest psychedelics you cando. He said he's taken that.
He's also done mushrooms and hesaid it's helped him. It's
helped him with his footballcareer. Now, one of the most
infamous haters like maniacal,borderline, psychopathic haters
(34:39):
on the internet and in thepublic sphere. Skip Bayless, you
know very well, he recently cameunder fire King for getting on
brawny, like 17 year old kid fornot dunking it with his left
hand like his dad or something.
Anyways, he he this is he had tosay, he said in regards to the
(35:00):
Aaron Rodgers Ayahuasca thing hesaid, quote, this tweet.
Apparently, Ayahuasca has onlyregular season benefits. Shut
the fuck up, bro throw onetouchdown in the NFL. I think
one shot in the NBA.
Zach (35:22):
It's funny because he's making a joke but I think skip
needs some iOS he needs he needs
Johnny Mansun (35:27):
Ayahuasca facts, Dan Zak, that's the best shot.
I've heard this whole politics.
That's dude, how to not thinkabout
Zach (35:36):
I think the funny part is man, like, everybody needs some
I waslike, I don't know, man, I feel
like everybody needs to be ableto like step outside,
Johnny Mansun (35:53):
some people can lash it. And people can't handle
like lesser psychedelics. Like,
Zach (35:58):
just to realize, you know, like, this shit in their life
that they take serious that theydon't need to take serious and
should that they do need to takeserious and just to really, you
know, like, actually realizewhat life is about. And, you
know, things that it entail,which is
Johnny Mansun (36:16):
being president, you know, like, we're always
tripping about the past and thefuture and stuck in that shit
where it's like, Dude, we're allgonna die. And we don't want to
talk about it. We don't talkabout it, but but it is what it
is. So what are you doing now?
You feel me like I think aboutthat shirt a lot, actually. Like
I think like, with everyone likedoing should they don't want to
(36:36):
do and fucking living a lifelike working this job or like,
doing this thing in life thatsomeone else wants them to do or
they think they have to do it'slike, bro, fuck that. Like when
you die? Like you're gonna belike, Damn, I'm happy I did that
shit I didn't want to do now.
You're gonna be like, Yo, thankGod, I spent that time with my
(36:56):
homies or I did this shit withlike, doing this shit like
fucking playing video games orpursuing my dream of music or
doing a fucking podcast. Like,that's the shit that you'll
think it'd be like, damn, like,I did what I wanted to do. I
wasn't governed or controlled ormanipulated into a fucking way
of life that I don't want tofucking do so like, ultimately,
(37:19):
that's what it's about. Bepresent. And enjoy the moment
and listen to yourself andlisten to your gut and follow
that shit. Like don't fuckingDon't live your life for other
people, bro. That shit willnever work out that shit will
never fucking lead to anythingother than disappointment and
misery. facts but you shall getD
Zach (37:47):
Thank you for listening.
It's been the boys. I think thisis a really good episode. This
is really insightful. Appreciateyou for watching once again.
Johnny Mansun (38:00):
Bad luck to the butcher shop family fax
Zach (38:04):
Drive Safe Have a good night. All that shit. You know
the vibes. Thank you for pullingup. One
Johnny Mansun (38:10):
fun love. Yeah,
Zach (38:14):
that's a great episode.
Unknown (38:14):
Oh yeah.
The best teachers are just people who haven't, like, you
Unknown (00:03):
know, experienced a lot,
Zach (00:05):
you know, like, yeah,
Johnny Mansun (00:06):
I also had a teacher Professor last semester
that was my religion like WorldReligion professor and he was a
trip. It was as old as whitedude, but like literally banging
like reggaeton folk in likejamming before class. He's like,
I want everyone to show up like10 minutes early so we can all
(00:28):
listen to music together andlike relax and like, get into,
like, the vibe, and I'm thinkingYo, he's like, I'm, uh, I'm
gonna like he says, he's like an80 year old, like white dude.
And he's like, I went to Bostonfor school. And he's like, just
so you know, like, no one givesa fuck about your degree, like,
no one cares. Like, he's justranting and just talking about
like Jesus and like Muhammad andlike, all this shit. And I was
(00:50):
like, I would I love that shit.
So I would always like talk inhis class. I don't know. It's
really interesting. Whatever.
I'm going I'm ranting right now,but,
Zach (00:58):
you know, reminds me of though. He reminds me somewhat
of like, the dude we had inEnglish, you know? Yeah, senior.
Johnny Mansun (01:06):
Yes. In that same that dude when he's old. Yeah,
that's when he's like 70 Same
Zach (01:13):
type of vibe. Just the way you were describing him already
knew what type of
Johnny Mansun (01:16):
Dela Cruz Dela Cruz his name he doesn't even
teach anymore. I was living on afarm all the time fucking making
his own mushrooms and lead tohim. Shout to him, y'all. We
love you, bro. Without yourclass. The butcher shop wouldn't
exist. Yeah, a real one yearthis teacher
Zach (01:38):
was so cool. We played like 21 Savage like on the
fucking screen. And like he wasvibing with it. We had a project
and he like told us like hey,like pick a song to like
describe your senior year likeyour high school experience. And
like he let us choose anythinglike what again? He was such a
cool teacher.
Johnny Mansun (01:58):
I think what a G Holy fuck.
Zach (02:00):
Yeah. What a good way to start it. Let's respect shout
out to you man. Shout out togood teachers. Let's go ah,
Episode 26 Back in this monthFoster
Johnny Mansun (02:14):
26 episodes in
Zach (02:16):
type shit. If I'm not like, wrong it's 27 I'm not. Is
there? We definitely have somany lost episodes. One a little
girl.
Johnny Mansun (02:30):
Yeah. 26 was really like 56 So
Zach (02:33):
it's the butcher shop.
What's up man? We're back.
Welcome. How are you man? John?
Johnny Mansun (02:40):
I'm good. Yeah, you think in an alternate
universe we called our podcastthe meat shop.
Zach (02:46):
The meat shop I honestly I you serious?
Johnny Mansun (02:53):
I literally so I have this joke with Jerry at
work where I'm like, I'm likeyo, I'm gonna do the love above
party with Johnny is Jay Yeah,yo, I'm gonna start a podcast
called the meat shot
Zach (03:07):
Yeah, hey, man, if he wants to competition Let's go.
Johnny Mansun (03:12):
Oh, yeah. So what do we got today? We got a lot to
talk about a lot going on in theworld. This is not in any
specific order by the way. Letme just look through this. I
mean Megan the stallion paid 250racks for future to go fucking
on Adderall Adderall and I focuson Adderall
Zach (03:37):
it's so funny that you say that because she paid that much
money and I have not heard thatsong neither have I so you know
it's a business Hey man, I hopeit you know did a lot for and
progressed her career
Johnny Mansun (03:56):
I wouldn't know I don't listen to her
Zach (03:57):
that future verse focusing on how to row
Johnny Mansun (04:03):
i and I know that because I haven't even heard the
song but I saw in the commentsof the tweet where I saw
whatever Yeah, not much likebars like from genius of him
saying like the same line fourtimes and I just already knew
I'm like I know that it'sfucking weak.
Zach (04:20):
He sent that shit in bro he didn't give it four rows
faded he's like yo plug in runout or oil Yeah. To him and 50
to go spin this shout out domainstallion we're not hating on
you. We love you
Johnny Mansun (04:36):
honey we're gonna keep doing your thing keep
making your fucking money keepfucking running it up respect
all love. Yeah, so crazy shitcrazy shit. Drake got his
fucking face tatted now forfinally caves into that fucking
hype. Rap. Fuckin should callit. He got his mom's initials.
Zach (05:01):
I mean, I can't hate him for again that he feels like
that
Johnny Mansun (05:04):
but facetite Your Drake though? Yeah, whatever
Zach (05:07):
he wasn't going to pop up in in the movies or nothing like
that. And if he does that,they're not going to not have
him because he has such a smalltat
Johnny Mansun (05:15):
and you can literally cover them. They do
that for actors on their fuckingbodies.
Zach (05:22):
Shout out the Sanju gram Nokia facts
Johnny Mansun (05:32):
I'm not gonna say when I was about to say so.
Yeah, speaking of a while andyou saw Tony Jefferson the
second straw he has been comingunder fire recently as he should
as he should because he's beenon he's been getting exposed on
the internet for missing gaps bylike fucking 10 yards like
(05:53):
missing shit like not seeingpeople like not knowing who has
the ball and shit and he talksabout how what he he stopped
wearing his glasses.
Zach (06:02):
Yeah, literally blind. Go ahead say it. Yeah, he
Johnny Mansun (06:05):
said I can't even lie. I stopped wearing my
glasses years ago.
Zach (06:12):
This is a wild thing for professional
Johnny Mansun (06:15):
glasses right now like so what happened is that I
wear contacts but my contactsare like backordered so I
haven't got them so I'm like ina period of time where it ran
out and I don't have any so Igotta wear my glasses whatever
but I just got these glasseslike month ago I'm trying to
flex them anyways so ladies,
Zach (06:30):
let's go all the way okay
Johnny Mansun (06:44):
now this is called stripe SassaFrass if
you're interested but
Zach (06:49):
i i gave me what goes on the
Johnny Mansun (06:54):
rug or the Warby Parker we were in the Percy
medium not the wide the mediumyou know fit my face they're
affordable to
Zach (07:05):
them not not not an ad not
Johnny Mansun (07:10):
I swear I'm not even sponsored it's just I've
been I've been I've been wearingtheir glasses for fucking five
six years really folk
Zach (07:21):
Warby Parker.
Johnny Mansun (07:23):
I say that I say that one actually hear stories
so they have a couple of storiesand I wanted to go and figure
out which ones I wanted. So Imet with my mom we went we went
to Wynwood and because they gotto store down there right in the
heart of Wynwood so like ohlet's go get glasses and we'll
go you know grab some grab itwherever I go. I show up she's
fucking taped up like not tapedup like I was gonna say boarded
(07:49):
up but it didn't have likeboards on the Windows blog on
the Windows was like film a tapelike saying like, Oh, we're
remodeling, whatever. So likefuck, we had to go drive from
Wynwood to Coconut Grove.
Whatever. We ended up getting abite to eat and when would and
then we went to Coconut Grovegot the glasses whatever
sidetrack side story we're notsponsored by Warby Parker and I
don't even know how I got tothis point. Oh, Tony Jefferson.
gladder? Brah if I didn't wearmy glasses, I wouldn't even be
(08:16):
able to drive. Like, if I drove.
Maybe I could survive. But I'dprobably get into an accident.
For real, like, nah, nah, Icould I could drive but I would
be a danger to other others.
Damn. Yeah, yeah. 100% I wouldnot be I would not be like, No,
I mean, you get a you get an AI,you get a vision test. When you
(08:40):
get your driver's license. Theywouldn't give me a license with
my vision if I didn't haveglasses. Yeah, sure. Yeah. And
so I'm like, I'm thinking atwork. I'm just like, walking
around. And like, I'm sweating.
My glasses are falling off andlike, I never wear glasses. So
it's like, I'm seeing it's likemaking me confront like, how
fucking fucked up my vision is.
And I'm like, thinking tomyself, like, what happened
before people invented glasses.
(09:06):
They were really just thoughtwere ya know that I mean 50 was
like, Damn, that's sad. Like, Ithink about all the people that
didn't have good vision thatdied. My bad yeah, died. Like,
like, before we were alive up.
But they lived without theirvision. Like, I remember when I
first got glasses, like, like, Ilooked at the trees. I was like,
(09:28):
Oh, damn, like, I could see allthe leaves.
Zach (09:32):
That reminds me of just like, watching true life or
whatever that shit was on MTV.
And they would be like, Yo, truelife like, you know, I'm deaf.
And then they like go and like,the person might like end up
having like, their like, youknow, their shit fakes. And just
like different shit like that,because it's like, yeah, that's
(09:52):
crazy, right? You wouldliterally see somebody like here
for the first time. That's causefor like, it was like, damn, or
like, you know, we take thatshit for granted. You know what
I mean?
Johnny Mansun (10:05):
100% 100% And I mean, I could take this on a
whole different like route.
Like, think about the fact thatwe have rods and cones in our
eyes that allow us to see color.
Like we have rosin. We haverods.
Zach (10:17):
No See you. I thought you said Say it. I don't even know
that this sounded. I thought yousaid my country came out. Sorry.
Gosh,
Johnny Mansun (10:27):
South Carolina.
Yes.
Zach (10:30):
Yeah, fuck Clemson.
Gamecocks folk Clemson all
Johnny Mansun (10:34):
the way Oh this year even though the last time
you played a song No Nobody
Zach (10:38):
who fought with Crimson flow would you straight up on
God um but uh what are wetalking about my bad
Johnny Mansun (10:47):
now we're talking about fuck
Zach (10:51):
fuck Clemson this dude Tony Jefferson and Seamus rocky
with no glasses like bro comeon. If you if you have to wear
glasses, or you need to wearfucking that prescription
shitting your eye? What arethose shirts called contact
icons? I know what I mean, bro.
Do that. But the fact that wehave so much film on him like
(11:13):
you know running through thewrong gap missing tackles all
this shit.
Johnny Mansun (11:20):
And for him tweeting and admitting it
finished the tweet so so he'syou know, this
Zach (11:24):
is gonna fuck up some contract negotiations to
Johnny Mansun (11:27):
I mean, bro, they're gonna be like, okay in
your contract.
Zach (11:32):
No way. No boy giving
Johnny Mansun (11:35):
you a vision test before each game if you can't
read the third fucking line fromthe bottom.
Zach (11:40):
Contract void.
Unknown (11:43):
You're missing out on like 800 ran track
Zach (11:46):
fucking four
Johnny Mansun (11:47):
said he said about not worrying about
stopping wearing his glasses. Hesaid, that might have been the
dumbest thing I've done. I cansee I can see so much clearer
and further with my glasses.
It's wild. Who would have thunkyou? Who would have thunk it?
Zach (12:03):
It's insane. Man, who would have thunk it being a
grown ass man. And just likedeciding I don't want to see
Fuck it. I'll just see the wholeworld. Like,
Johnny Mansun (12:13):
blurry, bro. It's like, maybe you know what a
really good,
Zach (12:18):
holy shit.
Johnny Mansun (12:20):
You know what it could be? I think a lot of
people are afraid of touchingtheir eyes. So they don't want
to put they don't feelcomfortable or scared of putting
contacts in. Right? Even thoughyou're technically not touching
your eye or touching a contactthat touches your eye but
whatever.
Zach (12:34):
I don't have glasses. So like wearing glasses is that
uncomfortable?
Johnny Mansun (12:39):
Yeah, like you can hurt like, you know, if you
wear your glasses all day, atleast for me, like and I don't
use usually wear them a lot,like, like right here on my
head. Like right here on myhead. Like it'll get kind of
sorta or want to take them offand kind of like massage it
because it's like, they have topress on your head enough to not
fall off. So it's like pressure.
It's like wearing a ponytail fora girl. Like, you don't really
feel it, you know, but it's likepulling your hair back. You
(13:02):
know, it's like the same thing.
So like, if there's like minorlike things that are putting
pressure on your body, you'llfeel them after a while. So it's
like sometimes I take my glassesoff like massages are like
wearing headphones. They're nowpushing. I have my headphones
over. I knew I knew.
Unknown (13:23):
Knew it. I knew it. I
Johnny Mansun (13:30):
knew it. I knew it. Wait, hold on pause the
situation. I used to have hairbefore I was bald. And I used to
have long hair. So I know whatit's like to put my hair like
try putting my hair into aponytail and that's it's
uncomfortable.
Zach (13:50):
I could agree. Okay, it's so funny because nobody like
watching this video. You have noidea that we both used to have
like long hair and like here weare
Johnny Mansun (14:02):
so but yeah, so what was I talking about? Yeah,
like caught like wearing glassesand knowing the context like
when I first put in context Iwas like freaking out like how
am I get to touch my eye is notthat difficult it I do it now
like second nature it's easierthan brushing my teeth but yeah,
he's probably just scared ofputting in contacts and whatever
(14:23):
doesn't want to do that but he'swilling to like slam his body
against like 200 pound likeathletes like fucking like
muscular as fuck like strong asfuck whatever like that's crazy.
You're scared of that you'rescared of like putting the
contact in but you're just likeyou're playing football in the
NFL whatever as crazy like forme I'm the opposite I'd much
(14:44):
rather put a contact in before Irun the foot through the fucking
gap or whatever.
Zach (14:49):
Run through the a gap I'm definitely
Johnny Mansun (14:52):
lays my shit out on my knocked out I got another
concussion. Yo speaking of CTEand this is not like I'm not
trying to troll but canes.
LEGEND Frank Gore has recentlycome under fire and you know we
have a lot we have a largeaudience in Miami so everyone
knows Frank Gore especially ifyou're from Miami legend out the
you literally to fucking tornACLs and college still went on
(15:14):
to be one of the best rushers inthe NFL like third in all time
rushing yards crazy likeprochains really out here like
whatever. He recently came underfire was trying to hype you up
before
Zach (15:35):
you want me to say
Johnny Mansun (15:41):
like put you on a tight ship not so fashionable.
Yeah. So he, uh, got accused ofgrabbing naked woman by her hair
and dragging her across a hotelroom hallway during an
altercation in Atlantic City,
Zach (15:55):
and the good thing is that we said, you know, accused
accused, you know,
Johnny Mansun (16:02):
according to TMZ, you know, on TMZ is for what
it's worth. It's TMZ and
Zach (16:06):
shit Atlantic City as a like, Garden State native. You
know what I mean? Yeah, AtlanticCity is like Vegas. You know
what I mean?
Johnny Mansun (16:15):
I know there's at least one woman that there's not
like lagers to get dragged byher hair naked. I'm playing I'm
playing like
Zach (16:24):
the butcher shop does not endorse that statement.
Johnny Mansun (16:27):
I'm playing Oh,
Zach (16:28):
my back to the podcast. So like, you know, Atlantic City,
man, it's one of those placeslike Vegas you know what I mean?
I don't know we got to see whathappens. I don't want to like
you know, tear him down and likeyou know, say anything crazy and
yadda yadda because you know,like mentally I don't know what
happened you know?
Unknown (16:48):
And word I didn't even read the article.
Zach (16:52):
No debt as same that's why I'm like shit I
Johnny Mansun (16:55):
feel like people I feel like those people that
were mad are Kelly fans and thenthat shit came out they're like
free our Kelly like I love FrankGore like he's such a good
player in the NFL as a man likeI don't want this to
Zach (17:08):
be true you know how many ACLs he came back from
Unknown (17:12):
to know 1/3 All Time Rush Yeah, yeah, that's pretty
Zach (17:18):
epic. peace to everyone in that situation
Johnny Mansun (17:22):
again you know the obviously the butcher shop
doesn't condone violence againstanyone we do not and you know, I
hope this isn't true and if itis I hope you know the proper
ramifications are you know heldor laid down whatever Yeah, so
speaking of some just wild shitand earth as a human
Zach (17:52):
Oh my god.
Johnny Mansun (17:55):
So like, Greg
Zach (17:58):
fucking poli sci class.
Johnny Mansun (18:02):
Yeah, the debate with a blue haired girl tomorrow
first class book. I have to tellher that like genders are a
thing that people arebiologically born like one or
the other. Unless they're bornwith like, both parts which
(18:22):
happens so anyways 21 Savagecomplains about gun culture and
says quote, we have to we had toquote Put the guns down. What
What's his group called again?
Zack. Can you remind me
Zach (18:37):
slaughter gang?
Johnny Mansun (18:40):
Slaughter gang, bitch.
Zach (18:42):
I thought about this so many times, man and I just think
I understand what he's saying.
Right? Yeah, but with him sayingthis I feel like I should never
hear him say anything aboutshooting someone or anything
like that on a song again,
Johnny Mansun (19:00):
because spin the blood twice. Like they know
where to
Zach (19:03):
say Put the guns down and then promote guns and violence.
Like that makes no sense. Likebro, you can't say you're not a
hippie culture. But he would sayI love his music but that's
literally hypocritical.
Johnny Mansun (19:14):
But he would say I'm not promoting it. It's
entertainment.
Zach (19:19):
You're promoting it through entertainment. What is
your point?
Johnny Mansun (19:22):
Yeah, okay, so what you make a movie about like
serial killer I mean, you'restill like showing people about
being a serious you're not
Zach (19:30):
even just that but 21 Savage has said and has you know
hospital records and shit likethat, bro. He's literally been
in shootouts in different shitlike that. And he's in a gang.
He's promoted gang violence andshooting like throughout his
whole career. So for him to say,you know, put the guns down and
shit like that. I agree with himfor sure, put the guns down. But
(19:53):
I also do think that he shouldalso like, you know, like, talk
about the fact that he you didat one point, promote that? You
know what I mean? And from that,and from that, but he's moving
past Yeah, he's a lot is allabout, you know what I mean?
Johnny Mansun (20:11):
And, and him tweeting this, and this is what
we're talking about. This is atweet thread that we found,
like, he's moving past it, youknow, but he understands at the
same time, what sells and whohis market is, and what, what
sounds cool will gain him money.
So it's kind of like he'sselling this product, knowing
that it's promoting the thingthat he is against, that he may
(20:35):
have ties, like emotional tiesto because it was part of his
past. Right. But he's stillpromoting it. So it's like, it's
the internet and you know,people people have nothing
better to do but you know, callyou out. Yeah. And so if you
say, Atlanta, we need to put thefucking guns down. But you're
(20:56):
talking about spin split, spinthe block twice. You've been
telling
Zach (21:01):
Atlanta to put the guns like, you know, oh, man, like,
Unknown (21:06):
literally,
Zach (21:07):
like, Las Vegas.
Johnny Mansun (21:09):
Like, if I was Will Smith, I would have smacked
him with a stick
Zach (21:12):
like my yo. Nobody told you to say that. You said that.
Oh, my God. It's like,
Johnny Mansun (21:17):
why does he say that? Because it's cool, because
it sells because it's whatpeople want to hear. You know,
so if you want to hear that, andyou know that and you're selling
and you're playing to that, butthen at the same time, you're
saying the opposite on yourtweets. Yeah, that's it, it was
at least he's saying it though.
And I have to give him creditwhere credit is due. Because at
least he's saying that and atthe end, the people that listen
(21:38):
to his music and hear that shitand are really in that lifestyle
and listen to him, because hetalks about that, like they're
not
Zach (21:46):
putting the guns out because he said that they're
not, but
Johnny Mansun (21:50):
someone that they listened to, and maybe respect
is at least saying it as he's atleast as part of their
conscious, because if Joe Bidensays that shit, or some random
fucking person, they don't givea fuck about their conscience
Zach (22:04):
that have a main point of it to me, though, is the fact
that like, I feel like somestreet people would understand
it, and maybe be like, you know,what, hey, if this street dude
who literally, you know, thestreet dude said this, right?
And then he actually is saying,like, Hey, I'm not gonna rap
about that anymore. And I'mgoing to, like, you know, really
(22:25):
get away from that, like, I'mtrying to progress. I want us to
progress. You know what I mean?
If he was to do that, then Ithink like real people who
actually like think, right,would understand it and be like,
Damn, that's actually cool.
Unknown (22:38):
Right? Move by.
Zach (22:42):
But what he's doing right now, and then being like, Nah, I
don't yada yada is not gonnamove. Nobody cuz it's fake. You
know? It's fake. And we all knowthat.
Johnny Mansun (22:53):
Telling people like, Yeah, put the guns down.
But also like, once you get yourmoney up, yeah, like, Yeah, you
don't have to have the guns up,but whatever.
Zach (23:02):
I thought what your 21 but you just keep it consistent.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, if you're gonna saythat, you got to like stop
rapping about but
Johnny Mansun (23:11):
here's the thing we're saying. We fuck with 21
Savage and savage mode, too. Ilove that album. I
Zach (23:18):
was I've been struggling with 21 Savage since like, if I
want to say the song that he haslike that, I that well, yeah,
read it read ops, but I wasthinking about a song he got
called drinking and driving onthe Slaughter Tape. You know
what I mean? And like thatshoots a fire song not promoting
drinking and driving, but I'mjust saying, You know what, I'm
(23:40):
more slaughtering orslaughtering people literally,
right. But like, it's crazy,right? Because I'm done with it.
Johnny Mansun (23:50):
Yeah, stop while you're ahead, bro. We're not in
Pine Crest. Okay. Now, lastthing I want to say though, is
like, fuck. I mean, maybe like,do you think Yeah, okay. So if
you're saying one thing, we'redoing the other and we're
saying, you know, you shouldn'tbe hypocritical, but we love
(24:10):
your music. It's like, Yeah, welove his music. And we love it.
Because it's his music and hismusic is what he talks about.
And we're trying to sit here andsay, change what you talk about,
but I love what you're doing.
Keep doing it. Because he has sohow is he like? He's my message.
Because I want to, because youwant me to keep making music you
(24:34):
like but I shouldn't keep makingmusic you like so I can stand
more firm behind my message thatyou want to say
Zach (24:42):
either tell us the contract either toes to put the
guns down and actually tell usto put the gun down or don't
like what yeah, like yeah, it'sjust that's my whole point.
Yeah, it's like Nobody forcedyou to say this. You came.
Johnny Mansun (24:58):
Is it kind of like well, maybe prisoners do.
It's like they say it, but Idon't really mean that shit. And
yeah, we didn't stop gunviolence, but they don't do
anything to stop.
Zach (25:06):
What's the thing where it's like you? It's a Freudian
slip, where you go and you bringup something that nobody brought
up, but you brought it up. No,you're promoted. Exactly. And
that's my whole thing, man isthat it's literally that, like,
Johnny Mansun (25:24):
I hear you, I hear you. Last thing just to
give 21 his credit. He responds,he
Zach (25:30):
does do a lot. He does do a lot in the community and shit
like that. Don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying and from thispoint of view from like, you
know about what we're talkingabout. I just disagree on that
topic. But he does do a lot.
Johnny Mansun (25:41):
And that's the thing. Like, like I said, I love
savage mode to like, I respectyour music and how talented you
are. You know what I'm justsaying
Unknown (25:49):
what he does in the community. And yeah, right,
right. For me, personally, like,
Johnny Mansun (25:54):
I remember, it's funny. Last night, I was
actually listening to OceanDrive, and I was driving Mike
home and he had never heard thatsong. And we him and I had just
made a song called Ocean Drivethat we're about to drop. And
I've been performing shit, whichhas been going crazy. And I'm
showing him ocean drivers whohad never heard that like, damn,
I told him the story about whenI was at rolling loud in 2018.
(26:14):
He performed Ocean Drive and Iwas like walking from like,
another stage or like, hadgotten food or water or some
shit. I was walking. I was like,behind the crowd. And I was
walking in and I just saw like,the crowd and the stage like the
whole thing. And he's playingOcean Drive. And I'm just
fucking vibing like that. Shewas so fucking dope, very
(26:35):
strong, because like Miami, andit was rolling loud in Miami
eyebrow. I was just like, I lovethat song. Like, I fucking love
that song. So, I mean, keepdoing your thing, bro. But it's
like, it's tough, bro. I just Ireally, I really just look at
it. Like it's just hard to. It'sa difficult situation to be in
because you want to be that youwant to talk about what's real
(26:56):
and you want to like, encouragepeople. Let me ask you this
before we move on to a differenttopic. I know we spend a lot of
time on this, but like, do youthink regardless of like the
hypocrisy or whatever, do youthink that one person? Like you
think he affected at least onehuman being on Earth with that
tweet? I do think there's oneperson out there that saw that
(27:18):
and said 21 said Put the gunsdown.
Zach (27:21):
Fuck no. I'm happy. You said that shit like that?
Because really, bro? I wasthinking about it. And I was
like, man, maybe somebody did.
But then I was like, bro, youthink somebody was like oh, so
who needs to shoot me? I'm notgonna shoot at them because 21
said not to fuck all that shit.
(27:42):
like, Nah, man, that shit ain'tdo nothing bro. You know that I
know that everybody know that
Johnny Mansun (27:48):
word. So last thing I want to say 21 said this
is just to give context. A songis for entertainment. It's not
an instruction manual on how tolive life in real life. I give
away a lot of money and spreadfinancial literacy to my
community stop trying to make meone dimensional
Zach (28:05):
no one's making him one dimensional. I mean, I feel like
he's or did that himself. Butnevermind. Yeah. With his
Johnny Mansun (28:16):
with his music.
Zach (28:17):
I mean, you do like your music. Our podcast is is what we
put out. And his music is whathe puts out and if in every song
he's putting out something aboutshooting somebody, like really
bro think about it as
Johnny Mansun (28:31):
a song without him talking about shooting
somebody. I don't know if youcan find one.
Zach (28:36):
And that's why I'm saying both even if there is right the
fact that we have to reallythink about it is the problem
because he's promoting gunfire
Johnny Mansun (28:47):
right so he's saying stop trying to make me
one dimensional but smoking gunis about one sort of dimension
of life. I mean, whatever realmi No one's perfect you know you
feel me Oh, we all can be cutedoing the show you're doing for
your for your community and onthe ground. That's what really
(29:07):
matters. No cat on Twitter shit.
It's just it's spec. It's notspeculation. It's just it's just
comment. commentary and I shouldmanagement Yeah, just keep doing
your thing, bro.
Zach (29:18):
I'm currently drawers man.
Johnny Mansun (29:20):
Literally weigh more than what the fuck? Any of
that shit is about So Ruby Rose.
Zach (29:27):
Yeah, it's awesome. As
Johnny Mansun (29:31):
I'm, I'm actually gonna make it way worse. So Ruby
Rose says it's okay for nonblack people like me what? To
say the N word. As long as it'snot used in a hateful way. Why
is she the judge? And when Isaid like me, I didn't mean like
me who says the N word. I mean,like a non black person just to
(29:54):
be clear got it. Bye Uh, what doyou think about that? Zack? You
know, like, I don't know. Yeah,what is your opinion on this?
What do you think about that?
Zach (30:06):
I'm not sitting here. I'm you know me. I'm not the fucking
thing police I don't I'm notsitting here doing that man I
got too much shit in my life toworry about. So
Johnny Mansun (30:17):
if someone says if a white dude says the hammer
with a
Zach (30:20):
brush, I'm just saying, Do you think but if somebody
catches you, right, or you know,do some teeth that don't you
know, for help, like, yeah,don't look for me for help. And
like, also, you know, yourealize that you had that should
come in. Yeah. Because no, Idon't know anyone who walks
around saying racial slurs. Likelike it's not like, like, it's
(30:42):
nothing. I don't know. I don'twalk around saying racial slurs.
No, I don't. Like do you knowwhat I mean? I definitely do.
So.
Johnny Mansun (30:51):
I'll say racial slurs to like the Irish. Potato
breath.
Zach (30:56):
I see you're Italian so you have that right. Yeah,
Johnny Mansun (30:59):
cuz people fucking slurs all the time.
Zach (31:02):
Damn for I don't even see that's the thing is I'm not
racist. And I'm not I'm also notItalian. So I
Johnny Mansun (31:09):
have no idea immigrant group, which is about
95% of America has been attackedracist in a racist way. You
know, obviously, there's levelsto this shit. But like the
Irish, for example, areItalians, for example. Like,
like they were there was racistattacks against peep there was
there were signs and Vulcanstores. I said no dogs and no
(31:32):
Irish like, damn. Like this
Zach (31:35):
turn that the butcher shop is like History Channel. But you
Johnny Mansun (31:40):
know, like, whatever. So, yeah, I mean, I
already kind of knew what you'regonna say. But I don't you know
why she's saying that do youthink like, because this is an
interesting topic, we could goreally deep into this topic
because it gets into hip hopculture, like we were just
talking about to get with 21.
You know, like, it gets into itgets into, you know, the history
(32:01):
of America. Like it's a lot tiedinto this topic.
Zach (32:07):
Let me take back a point I said, Ruby Rose does have an
opinion. Yes. She does have anopinion. And she deserves to
have an opinion. Right? But mything is,
Johnny Mansun (32:19):
she's hot.
Everyone wants to say I don't
Zach (32:23):
think that her opinion is valid. Because saying that
people should be able to sayracial slurs just because
they're in songs or yada yada aslong as it's so painful way
sounds so fucking dumb butstill, how do you know how
somebody is saying some shit?
Just because I say some shittingon it and um, I got a smile on
(32:44):
my face. I mean, I don't hateyou broke. So you know what I
mean? Like, it's like that's whyyou know, yeah, point is sort of
invalid but I
Johnny Mansun (32:55):
feel like what she was saying was she was
trying to say without saying itexactly like this is saying as
long as they say it with the Aand not the ER as long as they
sit not in like a that type ofway. But yeah, I feel like a lot
of people agree with you. I feellike a lot of people agree with
you. I agree with you. I don'tsay that shit. I mean, I know
(33:16):
white people that do say thatshit and like, I just look at
them like like kind of like whatyou were saying like okay, but
like you got to come in likeyeah, like like you know and
whatever it's everyone got tolive they got has to live their
own life and has to face theirown consequences and eat even
just personally just how beingconscious and self aware you
(33:39):
know, like everyone says it's ajourney for everyone but
whatever. Yeah,
Zach (33:44):
that's good topic.
Johnny Mansun (33:45):
Yeah. Anyways, moving on. Aaron Rodgers. Let's
do it, bro. be trippin.
Zach (33:53):
What about him? Oh, literally,
Johnny Mansun (33:55):
he's literally tripping. Like he said that he's
like taking a he's takenayahuasca, which is a very
powerful psychedelic brew madewith vines from the Amazon
forest rainforest. And itcontains DMT it's one of the
(34:16):
strongest psychedelics you cando. He said he's taken that.
He's also done mushrooms and hesaid it's helped him. It's
helped him with his footballcareer. Now, one of the most
infamous haters like maniacal,borderline, psychopathic haters
(34:39):
on the internet and in thepublic sphere. Skip Bayless, you
know very well, he recently cameunder fire King for getting on
brawny, like 17 year old kid fornot dunking it with his left
hand like his dad or something.
Anyways, he he this is he had tosay, he said in regards to the
(35:00):
Aaron Rodgers Ayahuasca thing hesaid, quote, this tweet.
Apparently, Ayahuasca has onlyregular season benefits. Shut
the fuck up, bro throw onetouchdown in the NFL. I think
one shot in the NBA.
Zach (35:22):
It's funny because he's making a joke but I think skip
needs some iOS he needs he needs
Johnny Mansun (35:27):
Ayahuasca facts, Dan Zak, that's the best shot.
I've heard this whole politics.
That's dude, how to not thinkabout
Zach (35:36):
I think the funny part is man, like, everybody needs some
I waslike, I don't know, man, I feel
like everybody needs to be ableto like step outside,
Johnny Mansun (35:53):
some people can lash it. And people can't handle
like lesser psychedelics. Like,
Zach (35:58):
just to realize, you know, like, this shit in their life
that they take serious that theydon't need to take serious and
should that they do need to takeserious and just to really, you
know, like, actually realizewhat life is about. And, you
know, things that it entail,which is
Johnny Mansun (36:16):
being president, you know, like, we're always
tripping about the past and thefuture and stuck in that shit
where it's like, Dude, we're allgonna die. And we don't want to
talk about it. We don't talkabout it, but but it is what it
is. So what are you doing now?
You feel me like I think aboutthat shirt a lot, actually. Like
I think like, with everyone likedoing should they don't want to
(36:36):
do and fucking living a lifelike working this job or like,
doing this thing in life thatsomeone else wants them to do or
they think they have to do it'slike, bro, fuck that. Like when
you die? Like you're gonna belike, Damn, I'm happy I did that
shit I didn't want to do now.
You're gonna be like, Yo, thankGod, I spent that time with my
(36:56):
homies or I did this shit withlike, doing this shit like
fucking playing video games orpursuing my dream of music or
doing a fucking podcast. Like,that's the shit that you'll
think it'd be like, damn, like,I did what I wanted to do. I
wasn't governed or controlled ormanipulated into a fucking way
of life that I don't want tofucking do so like, ultimately,
(37:19):
that's what it's about. Bepresent. And enjoy the moment
and listen to yourself andlisten to your gut and follow
that shit. Like don't fuckingDon't live your life for other
people, bro. That shit willnever work out that shit will
never fucking lead to anythingother than disappointment and
misery. facts but you shall getD
Zach (37:47):
Thank you for listening.
It's been the boys. I think thisis a really good episode. This
is really insightful. Appreciateyou for watching once again.
Johnny Mansun (38:00):
Bad luck to the butcher shop family fax
Zach (38:04):
Drive Safe Have a good night. All that shit. You know
the vibes. Thank you for pullingup. One
Johnny Mansun (38:10):
fun love. Yeah,
Zach (38:14):
that's a great episode.
Unknown (38:14):
Oh yeah.
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