S2:E8 - "Cocks Win"

No seriously the cocks won

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Zach (00:20):
We're in this muther fucker its the butcher shop. I
told you we'd be back.

Johnny Mansun (00:36):
No time.

Zach (00:37):
Should we just get to it?
Fucking Coach K,

Johnny Mansun (00:40):
let's just let's just not. Yeah, let's just make
this episode about being silent.

Zach (00:46):
How long do you think we could be silent without people
just like, I don't want to

Johnny Mansun (00:52):
10 seconds but like, I think we should do like
25 minutes and just silence andsee if we get one listener to
listen to the whole thing wedid. That's how we know starting

Zach (01:04):
now. So my fucking Coach K dude, it's so crazy

Johnny Mansun (01:12):
because I'll be back another year.

Zach (01:14):
He's gonna do a tie who would fit I fucking hope right?
But the thing is is like he madeit so interesting to watch like
March Madness because like, Iremember watching Coach K the
first time like I ever watchedMarch Madness and I was like,
Oh, I like this Duke team. Andthey went in they won the
championship, bro. So to now seelike John Shire, like about to

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be the coach and he was like thestar player for that team. And
this is back in like 2010 Bro,like, it was a long time ago.
You know? It's just like, it'scrazy to see like life like, you
know, being in like a circle.
But yeah, I'm excited to seewhat happens with Duke but it
was crazy man like those. It'scrazy because UNC really like

(01:56):
took him out of there twice.

Johnny Mansun (02:00):
Is it kind of disappointing though that UNC
ads Dukes like magical, like,movies sort of like run like
Coach K's last season to win thechip. And they add that in the
Final Four. Yeah, then they goto the chip and then lose after
holding of 15 point lead athalftime? Is it that fucked up?

(02:21):
It's like damn, they thoughtthey had it. They didn't fucking
have shit. They did

Zach (02:25):
everything but finish at the end. You know what I mean?
Is that just goes to show yougotta always finish out then

Johnny Mansun (02:32):
ask your girl how important it is to finish at the
end.

Zach (02:37):
You can't just like you know, give it three fourths
effort. I have, bro. You gottalike really Joe? Like Kansas
famous that the hit?

Johnny Mansun (02:46):
No, but, you know, real talk. I'm a Miami fan
and Kansas. We were also leadingkids don't bring here. You're
also leaving Kansas in the EliteEight. Halftime not by 15. But
we were leading them and we wereplaying on par with them. At the
very least you're leading them.
They seem like crazy. And theydid the same thing in the

(03:09):
fucking championship game inNorth Carolina should have known
and the ACC didn't win the chipthis year even though we had
three teams in the NBA.

Zach (03:19):
I think well I don't know if you'll be back we'll have the
same

Johnny Mansun (03:22):
I mean, the reason why this Miami team was
so good was they were oversYeah. And there's so many
transfers now the transferportal is really becoming a
thing and I think Miami is iswith this whole free agency
thing existing I think Miami isof course, a very attractive
location geographically, but nowwith a new ad and the main sport

(03:47):
being taken seriously akafootball funded was and this
current run to the Elite Eightwhich is a record which we Miami
but who says never got to. Ithink all of that combines to
make Miami a possible contendercoming in the next five years in
college basketball and see if wecould get another team to the

(04:09):
Elite Eight. If FSU could do itMiami can fucking do it. Now if
you see our little fucking sons

Zach (04:19):
that's a feel. Anybody you want to say that to specifically
Mike Norville.

Johnny Mansun (04:25):
Sean Yeah. BHS what's the difference between
Mike Norville and Sean there'svery little the

Zach (04:30):
same. Literally same dude.
Same dude. Different Erica.
Yeah, both can win in theleagues. Same Erica.

Unknown (04:41):
So I said different haircut.

Johnny Mansun (04:44):
No, we love you, Shawn. We're just getting

Zach (04:47):
shining. Did you see that LeBron James? April Fool's joke.

Johnny Mansun (04:53):
Yeah, too bad. It wasn't a joke. Even though it
was on April 1. First it was notcat. He said, I'm out for the
season officially see y'all inthe fall. Done. Here's the
thing, though. So yeah, we allknow that the Lakers were kicked
out of the playoff playing. Andthey're officially not going to

(05:15):
have a chance to play in theplayoffs. They have three games
left, I believe. Yeah. LeBronsuffered a ankle sprain. And the
thing is, he didn't play in thegame they had to win to stay in
to reach the playoffs or theplay in tournaments. Sorry, but

(05:37):
he could potentially play thelast two or three games of the
season. And you ask why? Whywould he do that? If he wasn't
well enough to play for the gamethey needed to win? To make the
play in tournament? Why would heplay right now? When you're
there's no shot you make theplayoffs? Why would you risk

(05:58):
getting injured? Why would youthere's no point there's no
point in those games. He is inthe running for

Zach (06:05):
Get the fuck out eight points.

Johnny Mansun (06:10):
Leader, the most points per game leader the
scoring title is he really andhe's down behind Joelle and bead
jeweller beat as 30.4 isaveraging 30.4 points per game
LeBrons averaging 30.3. Thething is, LeBron has to play two
more games to be eligible forthe scoring title. And there's

(06:32):
three games left. So people arelike, is he gonna go play
meaningless games after theLakers completely flopped? And
he didn't even play the gamethat matter for them to go get a
selfish like thing, but it'slike, bro, yeah, he's 37 MJ got
his the MJ had the oldestscoring title. And that was when

(06:52):
he was 35. So if LeBron putsthat on his resume, that
definitely is an accolade. Noone's gonna talk about how
Russell Westbrook is trashed?
Did

Zach (07:01):
MJ make the playoffs that year? When he did that? Quite. I
don't know. Because he mostlikely fucking did. And I'm
pretty sure he didn't lead theleague in scoring and then his
team like didn't make theplayoffs. So it's like even if
LeBron does this shit, it's notreally a flex because nigga you

(07:23):
like made you made a whole bunchof shots on a terrible team that
you couldn't make like good. Andthe crazy part is is bro I was
seeing in the preseason whenthey started this team like, day
one. When the season started,this team had six Hall of Famers
on it. Now I understand that Oh,but like bro, they still had
some youth. And I feel like theycan't do something. I just feel

(07:47):
like they really like obviouslythe ad had to endure in shape.
But I felt like nobody reallytook this year serious. And at a
certain point, they justrealized that Fuck it. We'll
just go for next year.

Johnny Mansun (07:58):
Next year. It's never gonna happen though,
because they're getting so muchcriticism because so many people
had them as the favourites towin it all. That's a Brooklyn.
Yeah. Even make the play intournament with Lebron James
averaging the most points he'sever averaged in the league.
That's crazy. Yeah, shoot wasbad. But I mean, bro. Listen,

(08:21):
LeBron, relaxed just coming toMiami next year. We already got
a championship caliber team.
LeBron alue. From stress toLeBron, I need to see it. I need
that in my life.

Zach (08:33):
Honestly, though, I think the best take from all of this
came from three year Letterman.

Johnny Mansun (08:39):
My favorite Twitter user,

Zach (08:41):
so he said, Not acceptable of wrong as a youth football
coaching legend. I've instructedplayers to return to games on
come on come onso I think the best take

(09:05):
honestly came from three yearsLetterman. He said not
acceptable LeBron as a youthfootball coaching legend. I've
instructed players to return togames on compound like fractures
and they've done it they've allsaid the long term pain was
worth the championship ring sadyou don't have the same winning

(09:28):
mindsets all facts I dude ontothat literally went in said that
he said That's fucked up. Ifyou're making kids play with
broken legs. Just say.

Unknown (09:52):
Just saying oh no Kathy, she's not funny. Like

Zach (09:58):
you're literally putting People that dude like yo, it's
crazy they make today so fun.

Unknown (10:10):
That response. He should have just tweeted I'm an
NPC I have NPC 2476 If you don'tget your

Zach (10:35):
MO when I seen the shit I died. All right. So why is LSU
2019 versus 2001 Even a debate?

Johnny Mansun (10:46):
Well, because Joe burrow just went to the Super
Bowl

Zach (10:49):
the fuck out. I mean, they really weren't a trash team,

Johnny Mansun (10:55):
bro. He had the worst ol line and he's the
quarterback. That's important.

Zach (10:59):
I mean, they had a bad old line, but they had a good team.
They had a decent Yeah, he has.
Eli has three. But still he hasthree great wide receivers. And
I mean if you're just gonna passit all the day, like that helps.
And then if you have he has agreat running back who can catch
and do everything he does. Youknow what I mean? I get it his
old lines not good. But theyfight though. Like they fight

(11:20):
hard. So like they're not likethey're not good, but they fight
and that helps. You know, Imean, and then it's not like
they're like Apple was badright? But their defense is
pretty solid. Like and they madesome they had some like lucky
things bro literally they were aRyan Tannehill like dumb play
away from like going home. RyanTannehill threw like a dumbass

(11:41):
pick and then gave the Bengalsback and all the Titans had to
do was like kick a field goalthere's some shit so like yeah,
against the Bengals like sothat's what I'm saying is

Johnny Mansun (11:54):
that like pick one yeah, they had to do is hit
the field goal.

Zach (11:57):
Yes, bro. That's what I'm saying. Like literally the
Bengals It was sort of luckythat they got into the Super
Bowl, but they were still a goodteam, you know? But like, I'm
just like, you can't go and

Johnny Mansun (12:07):
someone loses the LSU team they're not better.
There's also recency bias.

Zach (12:12):
Yeah, and I'm like, bro you're talking about the
quarterback. Alright cool. Butwhat about the US defense? I'm
gonna you told them how they gotall pros. They have NFL all pros
at third string um, like I wasyou don't have that. I'm like
come on like let's not do thatlet's

Johnny Mansun (12:28):
use playing in the weakest defensive SS SEC
that has existed in the pastfucking footcare every year like
the SEC hasn't played this baddefense and allowed this many
points ever. Like and that'sjust that just shows how college
football is changing. But NA andEU overall isn't isn't throwing
isn't winning the game againstthat 2001 Miami D for LSU

Zach (12:52):
also has fallen off a cliff. This UN team did not
follow up a quick Kobe stop theMiami oh my oh my

Johnny Mansun (13:00):
gosh certified Miami is so much more certified
than LSU will ever be this iswhy literally bro. Miami
Hurricanes football with MarioCristobal who hasn't coached a
single game for you M footballyet has so much hype and has
such a star studded loaded listof coaches under him the coach

(13:24):
of that 29 Team LSU teamliterally was posting pictures
of him at UNM at their coachescamp with Sean McVeigh the the

Zach (13:35):
NFL road doing Clover I'll keep it a buck is keep they're
all

Johnny Mansun (13:39):
like yo Welcome to Miami here's some Do you like
some blue Stella Would you likesome cocaine think they

Zach (13:43):
didn't pull up the biology a little bit different there my
man talking to Ryan

Unknown (13:53):
Yeah, really well yeah, so Yeah,

Zach (13:57):
is this we could say that the dudes Whatever

Johnny Mansun (14:00):
dude now all I'm saying is Sean McVeigh was there
Miami so much more certified thecoach of this team was literally
at Miami wearing a US shirt likerockin that shit his son has a
job with us now like he got hisson like a job like super low in
the ranks of like motor you saida job and yeah, so I mean my
wish is way more certified broall these teams want to talk

(14:22):
shit to Miami and unless you'reAlabama with like a fucking
million chips like no one reallyelse can stack up like Nebraska
and like that's it. And Nebraskawe shit on Nebraska in 2001 with
that team so

Zach (14:36):
I don't know man playing teams like Nebraska and
Wisconsin. It's tough. I don'tthink we got good records
against them boys because it'sthe last time we played like two
teams like that we don't last

Johnny Mansun (14:48):
night we fuck up.

Zach (14:49):
We we always get lost in the Orange Bowl. Exactly. But
they also had always folks likeJonathan Taylor and like mad
like oh linemen and like yeah,don't like that. So that makes
sense. And you know, theyliterally ended. Who was that
dude Russell Wilson. Like Idon't know what they ended like
two of our players careers onthat day. You don't remember

(15:10):
that corner and someone elselike literally they got injured
like neck injury, same shit. Butyeah, they play like hard pause.
So that's why it's like, oh, Iwant to like you know, we talked
about Wisconsin, you know whatI'm saying is you say okay, or
okay.

Johnny Mansun (15:30):
I said, okay, okay, I'm gay

Unknown (15:39):
luck is Oh, man. That's

Zach (15:41):
what I heard you say Brother.

Unknown (15:43):
As you say, We're gonna cut all that out. What are we
even talking about? Fucking No,

Johnny Mansun (15:51):
do Okay, check it out. I got you. The

Zach (15:56):
NA are my gay. I watched sway I watch

Unknown (16:00):
sway every day 24/7 365

Zach (16:06):
And I gotta rode my name Johnny. The book all that I

Johnny Mansun (16:11):
like to drive.

Zach (16:13):
I got rainbows in my room cuz I'm gay. Like you I got how
many times this is really weird,postman you my son I wouldn't
let you had

Unknown (16:27):
your unacceptable this was a sports pod. It's just as
homophobia pod.

Zach (16:32):
Honestly, because this is for sponsors. We can get our
shit off. My thing is did youwant to talk about the well we
talked about dolphins and pathsthat's gonna draw

Johnny Mansun (16:42):
so Okay, so

Zach (16:47):
I didn't really I guess I didn't see we didn't the Bolinas

Johnny Mansun (16:52):
Devonte Parker I want to hear bro let me know you
didn't really talk to me aboutthis Devonte Parker thing What
do you think about DevonteParker you know how I feel I
told you I feel but what's yourtake on it as a Patriots fan?

Zach (17:07):
I think he'll be a good addition. Good number two I
still think we need to findsomebody else but knowing the
patriots we probably won't andwe'll go out there with that but
I think Mac Jones regardless isgoing to play really good
because if you can get open ornot even get open if you can get
like slight open rack Jones canget you the ball like he's not

(17:28):
taught or to anon whatever youdolphins

Johnny Mansun (17:34):
can't get people the ball know if there was a
jailer water who set like arecord for like rookie receved

Zach (17:40):
Shaelyn water was catching the ball like two yards off the
one scrimmage

Johnny Mansun (17:46):
still a thrown a patch but still has to be right
on the right you

Unknown (17:52):
know you could do that.

Johnny Mansun (17:54):
Yo you ever heard of the guy debo Samuel

Zach (17:58):
debo Samuels not a fucking quarterback?

Johnny Mansun (18:01):
No but his coach who was calling him bad plays
and he was getting wide open

Zach (18:08):
but Okay, so the thing is is bro I guess you but
regardless

Johnny Mansun (18:14):
if I racial bro you know my favorite two rappers
are biracial Jay Cole logic? Andnow the dolphins coach's
biracial bro

Zach (18:30):
honestly, honestly, you don't have anything else on
here. And I'm like, I don'tthink we have anything.

Johnny Mansun (18:39):
So you think so?
Wait, hold on. So you thinkDevonte Parker is like is like
better than Nelson Aguilar.

Zach (18:48):
Oh, honestly, they're probably both the same. They're
both. You're just adding moremade way, man. Okay, well, let's
keep it a book.

Johnny Mansun (18:58):
What did what did the dolphins get in return for
this? Can you tell me they

Zach (19:05):
got 20 23/3 round pick.
Not to mention though thePatriots got Parker and a fifth
round pick for this year. So Ithink the the Patriots win
because they needed a widereceiver. And they pick up an
extra fifth round pick, theywin. They are giving the
dolphins a 20 23/3 round pick.

(19:27):
And JC Jackson signed with theChargers. So they're gonna get a
third round pick from theChargers like you know what I
mean? So this pays for that. Soessentially, they got Devonte
Parker and a pic for free. Youknow what I mean? So it makes
sense and they needed anotherwide receiver. Devonte Parker's
talented. We seen Devonte Parkercarhops the foreign Gilmore you

(19:49):
know what I mean? So like, Fuckit, you know what I mean?

Johnny Mansun (19:52):
He's not bad, but I also think that he's not, he
can't be your number one widereceiver he's not going to be
but He is right now notechnically not who is your
number one wideout Mac Jonesknow your wide receiver Mac

Zach (20:08):
Jones he's gonna play wide receiver PC Jones plays Jones
our law he looks like a slotreceiver Casey Jones plays
quarterback

Johnny Mansun (20:17):
he was a tight end or like a slot receiver I'd
be like that dude sounds likehe's like good and put on some
more weight bro skinny brah ohwell

Zach (20:29):
judging another man's weight class brother weight up
if you're what you're doing Areyou an NFL scout?

Johnny Mansun (20:35):
Nah Nah I'm just saying like PC Jones's bid and
tour with the actual good playeron the O line and an actual
running back. Two of them in inChase Edmonds and Raheem moster
and then Ty Hill and Jalen Waldoand Mike a second you realize

Zach (20:53):
that those two running backs you just named for him
Moser is literally injured

Johnny Mansun (20:59):
literally runs like a four to six like that.

Zach (21:03):
Alright, so I don't one thing you don't know about that
dude is that he's he's been likeyeah, like chronically
chronically injured like for thelast like three years and you
expect him to just go out thereand yeah, he guess what bro he
ran out. Ran out for three athis draft day. That was before

(21:24):
he tore his ACL three times fuckI had on my face and then those
the other dudes you said Chaseadmins Chase Edmonds literally
got injured last year and wasout for like, I think 10 games
and he's the reason why JamesConnor got all those fucking
carries and shit. So I'm likebro don't act like James Connor

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not doing like Chase admins andfucking row where he most are
such a great combo going from

Johnny Mansun (21:51):
miles Gaskin and all respect due to the UAM
legend Duke Johnson.

Zach (21:55):
Stomp. Shadow the Duke

Johnny Mansun (21:57):
Dude, come on. I mean, it's not my fault you
chase Edmonds if he's healthy isa good running.

Zach (22:03):
It's literally not my fault. You guys have a trash bag
room.

Johnny Mansun (22:08):
Bow. So that's what I'm saying. If you're a
dolphin sandwich you're not butif

Zach (22:13):
you are yellow spring, like so much money on like, just
sec.

Johnny Mansun (22:16):
We have more calf space. And you guys

Zach (22:19):
I mean cool because you have a Turkish team lubra

Johnny Mansun (22:22):
We literally won just as many years as you guys
did practically. Yeah, I guessbut not every beat you guys two
times last year.

Zach (22:31):
I have to. I have the Molo out of it. But I'm just gonna
leave it at this man. Thedolphins are trash and the thing
is, is you know this everyDolphins fan know this. How are
you gonna say fins up? What haveyou done? What is like what have
you done for the fence to be I

Johnny Mansun (22:51):
so I gotta say one started just randomly spin
this row receivers debate. Thisis my favorite isn't my favorite
line that I think justencapsulates what I'm trying to
say. Is that what have thePatriots done without Tom Brady?
That's so important. Becauseeveryone every Patriots fan is
worshipping Matt Jones. Becausethey pray and hope and believe

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and want Matt Jones to beanything resembling the sweat
butt off of the fucking face ofTom Brady.

Zach (23:28):
You realize you could say that for your bone franchise,
right? Because you guysliterally went out there and
drafted to over Justin Herbertright. And to, to obviously is
not just an herb or everybodyknows that. So who you are
capping throwing as much fuckinglike shit on to, to like, you
know, try and make him soundgood. And you know, he's going

(23:50):
to be so good and shit likethat. When he's not Justin
Herbert just to fucking makeyourself feel good. Okay, for
drafting that bus over him. Nobook out of here. Nobody feels
sorry for you, but massfranchise. And not only that, we
talked about this. You have abiomass owner, who literally
tried to like pay his coach tofucking lose games, and you

(24:12):
think two is gonna succeed? Getthe fuck out of my face.

Johnny Mansun (24:16):
Bro, when I saw the things I was like tank for
two. I was like, why are peopleso like, hell bent on this guy.
Man. You wanted to think buthere's the thing. Now listen,
you wanted that too. We canalways we can always look at
every draft in every sport andsay why don't you draft this
guy? Why don't you draft thatguy. It happens. It's the

(24:38):
fucking nature of the game ofsports in general. But with that
being said, I don't believe thattoo is a bad quarterback. I
think this season, he's going toshow what he could do. In fact,
I know this season. He's goingto show what he could do because
what happens this season isgoing to go Like to determine

(25:01):
his future on the Miami Dolphinsand in the NFL as a starter and
what his status is because nowyou have names like Chase
Edmonds and Ty Hill around youwhere you didn't have a one at
wide receiver besides a rookiewho you played college ball
with, and no running back. Andno o line, and you just got one

(25:24):
of the best o lineman in theleague from an actual solid
franchise like New Orleans and anew head coach, because
apparently,

Unknown (25:35):
the owner had some beef with the with the

Zach (25:41):
so he hired

Unknown (25:44):
early. Then filed a lawsuit.

Johnny Mansun (25:48):
I don't know. Can we talk about the heat a little
bit little five minute lucky.
Yeah, go ahead. Keith scored themost points in franchise
history, I think are tied themost points in franchise history
and a regular season gameagainst the Hornets. Last night
they scored 144 points. Tylerhero had a season high 35
points. Well, congrats. Yep. Andwe are first in the East two and

(26:09):
a half games.

Zach (26:12):
That's good. But congrats.
Here's the thing.

Johnny Mansun (26:15):
So I want to take a look, Zak at this. Ranking at
this at the standings. Theyreally look at this, you see.

Zach (26:31):
I get it. It just felt like anything could happen from
now like so check

Johnny Mansun (26:35):
it out, like so I was looking at this right? I was
looking at this. I looked atBrooklyn schedule, because what
Miami wants is for Brooklyn toget that eight, right? Because
they're probably not going toget the seven in the standings,
right. But what happens is, ifBrooklyn gets the eight, they
play seven for the seven seat,and if it's Cleveland, I feel

(26:59):
like they could win. Okay. Sothat's what we want, because we
would rather play Cleveland orATL or Charlotte. Before
Brooklyn. Yeah, for sure. ButI'm also not scared of Brooklyn.
I'm not now with the home courtadvantage, not with my IV
playing as well as they'veplayed this year.

Zach (27:18):
I don't know. It'd be tough. I don't think I'm gonna

Johnny Mansun (27:21):
be the top.
Scared No, but it wouldn't bethe toughest matchup out of
Cleveland ATL Charlotte. Ofcourse, Charlotte has no defense
ACLs week and so as a Clevelandas a poverty franchise, as Zack
likes to say. But so listen, solook, check this out. So look, I
was trying to I was trying tofigure out what the playoffs are

(27:42):
going to look like and what theCD is going to look like. So
let's just say for this is whatI think is gonna happen. I think
Brooklyn is gonna get thateighth spot. I think Miami is
gonna play Cleveland or I don'tknow I don't know who they're
gonna play. It could beCleveland ATL Charlotte I really
don't see Brooklyn getting theeight seat. I think the eight

(28:03):
see plays Milwaukee I don't evenknow I don't even know now. I
don't know I'll see about thisearlier but like it could go so
many ways. I think once it'ssolidified we should have Carlos
we're going to cut this out. Ithink we should have caught what
I was trying to talk about totalk about the he playoffs what

(28:26):
we expect and the playoffs

Zach (28:31):
because it's like there's no sense in me like talking
about it right now. Yeah, cuz somany fucking beats and change
like let's just talk about itwhen we know what the playoffs
like.

Johnny Mansun (28:42):
Alright, like I said 25 minutes. Yeah.

Zach (28:46):
It's the butcher shop. You see in a couple of days. We out.
Oh,

Johnny Mansun (28:54):
and we back and you saw it too. It's like when
your favorite rapper like fallsoff?

Zach (29:01):
He's like Oh man. Yeah, this

Johnny Mansun (29:03):
chance rapper like coffee hot shower.

Zach (29:07):
Hot coffee hot shower cauliflower, cauliflower him a
powder ah, it's the boys whoawhoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa me
out. I hope I didn't just fuckedup yo, yours

Johnny Mansun (29:22):
was just shot the butcher shop

Zach (29:33):
shoot, but everything a little bit.