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We're back with a fresh season to discuss the seismic shift in social media's landscape, examining the aftermath of Elon Musk's Twitter acquisition and its metamorphosis into X. Lets go down the rabbit hole, exploring the exodus of users from Twitter and speculating on the emergence of a new platform ready to take the reins. 

The money game is on. It's Kodak Black and 6ix9ine's collaboration causing a stir and we're not shying away from a robust debate on the ethics of going all out for the 'bag'. Touching on Boosie Badazz's viewpoint, we question whether there's a line not to be crossed, regardless of the lucrative rewards. The stakes are high in the sports world too, as we ponder the fairness of NFL players betting on their own teams - could this disrupt the sanctity of the game? 

Just when you thought we're done, we're shaking things up with a discussion on the indictment of Donald Trump. We're dissecting the implications and repercussions for society from every angle. And yes, we're going there - extraterrestrial life. Are aliens our saviors or do they herald an apocalypse? Could our reality even be a parallel universe with advanced technology? There's more than meets the eye, and we're here to explore it all. 

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(00:07):
The bently stays, the brokehoes go.

Zach (00:26):
The Bently stays, the broke hoes go.
What up y'all?
Welcome back to the ButcherShop, season 3, we're back.
How you feeling, ?
Feeling good shit, we'reexcited to be back.

Johnny Mansun (00:39):
I'm feeling good, bro, I'm feeling great.
Actually, I'm so excited to beback and you know, it's crazy
that we started this in 2020.
Yeah well, it's 2023, broseason 3.
Every year, new season.
You may have noticed.
For our Visual observers whoare not listening to the podcast

(01:01):
, you may have observed that weare in a different location.
We are officially in theButcher Shop headquarters.

Zach (01:11):
Welcome we were in headquarters last time, but we
switched it up on you, so youknow what the vibes are.

Johnny Mansun (01:16):
We got multiple headquarters.
You never be somewhere too longfor all the ops out there.

Zach (01:22):
Keep looking took a little vacation hour back.

Johnny Mansun (01:26):
All right, man, let's get, let's get ready while
we were on vacation fucking.

Zach (01:31):
Elon Musk bought Twitter and ruined it.

Johnny Mansun (01:34):
Yeah, bro, I hate Elon Musk.
I don't hate him, but I thinkhe's like whack.
I think he's lame.
Yeah, he's lame for sure right,like like he's trying way too
hard to be cool and shit.
You know what I mean?

Zach (01:44):
I Just and like funny and how people used to say like you
know, one day something's gonnabuy Twitter and like make it,
like you know, not free, right?
So he literally did thatexactly.
We ruined Twitter like peopleruined Twitter.

Johnny Mansun (01:59):
I mean, it's not even called Twitter anymore,
it's called X.

Zach (02:03):
You think people will ever call it X?
I don't think anyone will everrefer to it asX.

Johnny Mansun (02:09):
I mean, I don't know if, if people still use
this app 10 years from now, 15years from now, then yeah,
because there's gonna be peoplethat come up that only know it
is that, if you think about it?
Yeah, what if you call TwitterX like you're a jit?
People are gonna laugh at you.
Yeah, for sure.
The only people calling TwitterX right now are in cells and

(02:32):
dudes that haven't showered intwo weeks.

Zach (02:35):
So I think also, like we're gonna get away from like
Twitter very soon.
You know, I mean like I don'tthink what do you mean?
Twitter's gonna be like themain like Platform for, like,
yeah, what it is right now.
Oh, you're big on threads.
No, I just Something else willhappen.

(02:58):
I feel like because a neweverybody's already getting away
from Twitter.
No, when I say getting away fromwhat, I mean like we think like
Twitter is, like you know,having to pay for it, the like
the blue check, all that dumbshit, you know, yeah, fucking up
the timeline, it's all thelittle things that like add up

(03:18):
and, like you know, ruin, likesomething right?
Yeah, I feel like eventuallypeople were like Transfer to
something else because that'swhat I was supposed to be, and I
was so when I was a kid, rightlike Facebook was like lit,
right, but now like Twitter'slit and Facebook's for like old
people.
I think it's what we're watchingis like Twitter's about to be

(03:39):
for old people and then anotherlike you know Things well, I
mean, I mean, we just don't knowwhat it is.
Yeah, I don't think necessarilythreads is gonna be it, but I
think that I think that thing istick tock.
Tick tock is like I alreadyhear, literally yeah, but it's
but you, but I know what?

Johnny Mansun (03:57):
you mean like a, like a Platform that is similar
to that?
Yeah, it's.
Facebook was like posts andstuff, just like Twitter in a
sense.

Zach (04:06):
But you can't really like post through it.
I mean, well, the thing is Iguess you have a point, cuz tick
tock is like video, so it's youknow.
You don't have to post words,like you know, you could just
like watch the video or hear theaudio.
So You're right on that.

Johnny Mansun (04:21):
I don't think threads is ever gonna work.
Do you have a threads?
Did you even make one?

Zach (04:24):
I Did, but I never win on it.
You know what I mean, like Ijust did it one day and then
never hopped on it again.

Johnny Mansun (04:32):
Honestly, when we at, where we at, where we at,
where we at Threads.
My all only Threaded one thing.

Zach (04:48):
Oh, so you actually thread it, that's, I thought.

Johnny Mansun (04:51):
I threaded, I thread it for real, I threaded.
But it was just like Did youalso fall for the Facebook
rebrand or some shit along thoselines?

Zach (05:05):
cuz bro it's owned by face Branded.

Johnny Mansun (05:08):
Yeah, that's what threads is.

Zach (05:09):
I mean, yeah, I know that, but what do you mean?
Facebook rebrand?

Johnny Mansun (05:13):
That's what threads is.

Zach (05:14):
I mean, yeah, I know it was on my Instagram and Snapchat
meta the parent company.

Johnny Mansun (05:19):
They made it obviously.
It's literally like you knowwhy?

Zach (05:23):
I mean, I joined it just because I guess I thought it
would be something a littlebetter.
You know?

Johnny Mansun (05:28):
I mean me too, but it turned out to be not that
well, I feel like it could gointo that.

Zach (05:34):
Exactly, they have a great idea and everything, but they
just, like you know, give itsome time.
They have to, like you know,come out with, I don't know,
just something, wait wait.

Johnny Mansun (05:47):
So Elon fucks up Twitter for another day, like he
did on the day Damian Lillardrequested a trade.
I mean out of all days, bro,when I'm like feening to get
like updates, like injectedstraight into my veins every
minute, every second, about thenews about Damian Lillard
announcing he wants to trade, tothe heat, that's the day that
Twitter goes down.
That was some fuck shit andthat's.

(06:09):
And then, literally right afterthat, what happened?
Threads comes out and nowEveryone hops on threads.
They're like ah, this iswhatever it's like.
This is.
This is a prime example, not toget too political, but this is a
prime example of why, likehaving these billionaires or
these people with hundreds ofbillions of dollars, like Elon
Musk or Jeff Bezos, like JeffBezos owns the Wall Street Sorry

(06:32):
, the the Washington Post, youknow what I mean like when, when
you have people with all thismoney and power, like it could
have a negative effect, likemonopolies and shit, like that's
.
That's what we see in Americaand that's what we have.
Like we don't have the onlyalternative to Twitter is owned
by yeah, he's one, you know whatI mean.
It's like can we get like a?

(06:53):
Can we get something like freshand something that's not?

Zach (06:56):
coming from.
The only alternative to that is, you know, owned by China.

Johnny Mansun (07:02):
So, or rumble, you got a rumble account.

Zach (07:05):
What is rumble I've never heard of?
I think.

Johnny Mansun (07:09):
Correct me if I'm wrong or I guess whatever in
the comments or some shit, but Ithink it started by like some
of the dudes from like milk,maybe it's like a bunch of those
dudes and like like the AndrewTates of the world.
Okay, they started social mediahe didn't it not Andrew Tate,
not him, but like people in that, like like you know.

(07:31):
I mean like yeah, I don't knowhow to describe, but like they
started like a thing, like it'salso has like a conservative
Underlying sort of thing in it,like all the people that were
like getting banned because theywere like yo, you know, like
the election was stolen, youknow, I mean whatever people
getting Shadow banned and allthis stuff, whatever.

(07:54):
But yeah, so there's like thisother thing called rumble, but
like no one fuck, you don't evenknow about it, no one fucking
likes that shit.
So I know what the answer is.
But this guy I just told youyou can't just make like some
random shit, you know.

Zach (08:06):
That's why I think Facebook had a really good idea,
right, and they had some goodthings in there that they
implemented right.
Like you know, you didn't haveto go like search for people,
you just, like you know, itautomatically sync with your IG
or what.
Yeah, right.

Johnny Mansun (08:22):
Like that you like.

Zach (08:23):
I thought it was smart because, like it, I mean, dude,
if you had to go like Manuallytrying to find people and shit
like that, were you gonna go anddo that?
Yeah, no, exactly you know.
So, like they had to do that,you know, I think little things
like that are smart, but I justthink that they should have
thought about it a little longerand Probably would have went, I

(08:43):
think.

Johnny Mansun (08:44):
I think what brought it about so suddenly?
Yeah, although they had to havebeen working on that for a long
time.
But like they realized, oh,now's the time.
As soon as Twitter went downthere, like okay, now's the time
yeah but uh.

Zach (08:58):
I don't know man.

Johnny Mansun (08:59):
I don't know.
I don't think anyone's evergonna call it X.
I'm never gonna call it X.
And also I'm thinking about Ithought about this yesterday
what do you call a retweet, are-X Like, fuck, no, bro, stop
fucking ruining shit.
We like yeah, for what, dude?
You didn't even want Twitter,bro.
You didn't even want Twitter,bro, and here you are ruining

(09:23):
this shit For all the normalfucking people.
Can you just take all of yourmoney that you're hoarding, that
you could never spend in 10,000lifetimes, and fuck off and not
take, fucking, not ruineverything, bro.
Just fucking.
Leave something for us, please.
You took all the money Justleave us some little joy that we
have in our fucking Twitter.
Bro, fucking ruin the algorithm.

(09:44):
You noticed that too, right,yeah, man.
You never had anything manDon't get me started Fucking
America.
I'm gonna stop singing beforeyou know that.
Yeah, I'm gonna stop singingfor his dog.
It goes crazy.
Alright, so next up, man.
I want you to choose the nexttopic.

(10:05):
Zach, I want you to choose it.
You can go in order.
You could choose whatever youwant.

Zach (10:10):
So Kodak Black, they have the song with 6ix9ine.
Yeah, and Bootsy Badass hassome choice words for him.

Johnny Mansun (10:21):
What did he?

Zach (10:21):
say, quote it.
I'm not gonna quote it, butpretty much.
Bro said that he'd do anythingfor the money and that he
doesn't stand on shit and thatyou know he would take one of
his shit for, like you knowanything.
So my whole point is that, um,do you think that?

Johnny Mansun (10:47):
So he's mad at Kodak for being a rat or not for
working with a rat, sorry.

Zach (10:51):
Yeah, exactly, and he's saying that because you're
somebody who's you know quoteunquote in the streets or
whatever right, should you goand, like you know, do a song
with somebody who, like, goesagainst everything that you
stand for?
But, it shouldn't matter whatthe money is right, because,
like you know, you stand forsomething or die for you know

(11:14):
you gotta say you fall foranything.

Johnny Mansun (11:16):
Right, right, right.

Zach (11:17):
And um, that's just what Bootsy was saying.
I see both sides of the coin,right, because Kodak's like fuck
it, the jig gave me a milliondollars, right.
It's like seven racks per wordor some shit, right, but like
everybody else is looking at youlike I mean, yeah, I guess he
gave you a million, but like youcouldn't have got that from
somewhere else, I guess I don'tknow.

Johnny Mansun (11:39):
You, you, you know it's his life, his shit,
whatever.
I don't know who else would payKodak a million for a verse.

Zach (11:45):
There's not a lot of people out there who pay a
million for a verse.
You don't have to get themillion from the verse.

Johnny Mansun (11:50):
You could just like you know, Do four for two
of it.
But later you could go and dosome shows.
What if you didn't code I?

Zach (11:59):
guess you yeah.

Johnny Mansun (12:00):
Well, let me say but then you're fucking up your
whole.

Zach (12:03):
Like you know everything you stand for in your whole,
like you know.

Johnny Mansun (12:07):
Right, but I mean because you can't sit there and
say You're saying he's from thestreets and it's against like
the street code.

Zach (12:13):
How is Kodak supposed to be a street rapper, but he out
here Working with a?
Rat yeah and does that makesense Nobody's after.
Because, bro, how many featuresyou saw on Gunn and the album,
bro, bro?
Bro, that's my boy, come on,bro Like.

Johnny Mansun (12:30):
I was surprised.
I don't want to hear about thefuture, I'm just saying that
that wasn't on that.
Huh, I said I was surprisedthat young thought wasn't on
that gun album.
You think he's going to be onthe album?
I'm just kidding.

Zach (12:39):
I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.

Johnny Mansun (12:39):
I'm just kidding.
Now, what I was going to say isthat, uh, I think that when
you're in the streets or you'relike living that lifestyle, what
is the most important thing?
Some people will say it'sbrotherhood.
You know what I mean.
Some people will say it's moneyI give them, yeah.
Some people will say it'sbitches Sorry, excuse me, women

(13:05):
you feel it, my thing is so it'slike everyone falls under
different circumstances ordifferent like categories and
apparently to Kodak, the mostimportant thing is money and I
feel like a lot of other dudes,like in the streets or whatever
are, are doing it for the money.
I think most the majority, andthat's why you have-.
Yeah, bro, hey, what do youthink?

Zach (13:26):
But I I'm just saying if you would sleep with the rats
for some money I don't know ifthat's a, you know, is that a
Like?

Johnny Mansun (13:33):
that's not necessarily a good thing, but
let's be realistic, but let's berealistic, but let's be real.

Zach (13:37):
Of course Should you just do anything for money, of course
.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I'm just like thinkingabout it from the other side,
like flip the coin right, ofcourse.

Johnny Mansun (13:45):
And like but we're acting like.
We're acting like Kodak, yeah.
Like went and like informed onsome people or on some situation
.
He just got paid by a dude whois, or did he got paid to do a
verse?
Did the verse contain anythingthat he's like ratting on

(14:05):
someone?

Zach (14:06):
No, so Kodak has a song where he literally says he's
smoking the roach and killingthe rats, Right, and he he talks
about like you know shit allthe time in his songs and stuff
like that, Right.
So it's just like how can yousay this and claim that you live
this and shit like that?
Because, bro-.

Johnny Mansun (14:23):
And then go and do the other.

Zach (14:25):
You just took a million dollars from that dude First off
, we don't even know that hereally gave him a milli, I feel
you Right, I feel you.

Johnny Mansun (14:33):
That's the funniest part.
If he did it, then this isreally bad Right.

Zach (14:37):
I'm just saying that, like , for him to go and do that dude
is sort of showing that hewould do anything for a bag, in
a sense, and that's not a goodtrait for anybody in this
country.

Johnny Mansun (14:49):
I agree, but it's a trait that you should go do
anything for a bag.

Zach (14:53):
That's how you ruin, but you ruin like anything.

Johnny Mansun (14:56):
But, bro, that's like.
That's like America, thoughright In a sense, like that's.

Zach (15:00):
that's what America is about In a sense, but think like
Doing anything for a bagthere's a bunch of actors and
different shit, like that right,where, like they go and do a
bad movie, right, and it gavethem a bag, like because they
gave him a bag, right, but themovie did bad and then it fucked
up there, like you know, likehow people perceive them and
shit like that right.

Johnny Mansun (15:18):
So maybe you get the mill now, but it may fuck up
future Exactly Like people youcould work with, because now
you've got that mark on you.
That's like you worked with arat and that's my whole point is
like it does a good point.

Zach (15:29):
Like you know, the milli may be here now, but like-.

Johnny Mansun (15:32):
How much are you losing in the future?

Zach (15:34):
You got me because now, who really wants to do a song
with you?

Johnny Mansun (15:37):
in a sense, I don't know, but do you think
that's really the case?

Zach (15:40):
I think it could be.
Why not, Pete?
It's not like people were outhere doing songs with six, nine.
You know, he the only personwho did it.

Johnny Mansun (15:49):
I don't know.
Well, I think that's not eventhe most important or sorry, the
most fascinating or intriguingaspect of this whole thing,
because what stood out to mewhich we've talked about this on
the show before is Boosie beingvery homophobic, but in a very
like weird way.

(16:09):
Yeah, I get that.

Zach (16:10):
That's kind of sus, it's because he went to.
He's like a old southern dudewho's been in jail and shit like
that.
Like prison, like it'sdefinitely sus and it's weird,
yeah, but it's just-.

Johnny Mansun (16:24):
He's just a product of his environment.
He get what I'm saying.
I hear you, buddy, I hear you.
We all are.
We all are he just thinks it'ssus.

Zach (16:30):
You know what?

Johnny Mansun (16:30):
I mean yeah, but bro, I mean I mean let's
Regardless of D-Wade kids andall the new Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Shout out to.

Zach (16:36):
D-Wade, you're a legend.

Johnny Mansun (16:37):
I fucking love you, bro.
You're my favorite basketballplayer of all time.
What I will say is what he saidhere.
He said I know you would take adick for 20 million.
Whoa bro, whoa bro, got alittle too much dip on your chip
.
Chill out, dude.
It's a little much, it's alittle extra.

(16:57):
I don't know why are youtalking about that, but I get,
because it's what you weresaying about what you'll do
anything for money, whatever.
I get the point.
But it's like, why does healways have to use that
situation as a way to prove hispoint?

Zach (17:16):
He just used it in a way to show you would do anything.

Johnny Mansun (17:23):
And he said along the lines you're not from the
street and you're a cap rapperor whatever.

Zach (17:29):
John Slug, because I explain this whole thing and he
said.

Johnny Mansun (17:35):
He said should have stuck their finger in your
asshole, like what?
Like?
Why are you taking it that far?
Like I get it.
If you don't like gay people oryou don't like gay shit, quote
unquote.
Why are you gonna keep listingthose things Like it's so?
Sus to me, bro.
It screams projection, itscreams like insecurity.

(17:58):
It's mad, weird.
But you know, to each their own, and I'm not him and I didn't
go through his experiences and Idon't know what his life is
like, so I can't, I'm not one tojudge.
I'm just saying to me from theoutside, from my perspective,
that shit's wild, is it not?

Zach (18:16):
What are his experiences in that industry?

Johnny Mansun (18:19):
You f***** me.
You said it not like that, bro.
You're huge, you're trolling.
Nah, bro, you know what I mean,what you were saying about how
he's been to prison, where he'sfrom, etc.
Etc.
That's what I mean.

Zach (18:33):
It's because, dude, he's been to prison right where
snitching and different sh**like that names will kill you
for that, and so has Kodak right.
So for Kodak to be some youknow whatever he is right and go
out here and then do a songwith a dude like 6'9" right, it
doesn't really make sense.

(18:53):
It doesn't matter how much hegave you, you get what I'm
saying I feel like it makessense to me, but I get why Well,
I don't know if that's a goodthing or a bad thing.

Johnny Mansun (19:02):
But I don't.
Yeah, I know I feel you like.
I don't think you're wrong, Idon't think that I'm necessarily
right.
I don't really know the truthand I guess it's a-.

Zach (19:09):
I just say you don't do anything for money.
Right, have standards, haveethics, have ethics.

Johnny Mansun (19:15):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, that's the message Shoutout to all the parties involved.

Zach (19:21):
Shout out to all the parties involved for show.

Johnny Mansun (19:24):
Shout out to yeah , exactly, Alright, let's go to
the next one Sticking on thistopic of jail that we brought up
.
So there's a video going viralright now and it's captioned OG,
Fresh out and trying to controlhimself.
It's a video of this dude in aclub listening to like Meg the
Stallion or like Sexy Red orsomething and like, all the hoes

(19:47):
are out and he's literallyfreaking out Bros.
Like you can see it on his face, his posture, his energy.
He is not ready for everything,like he's not ready, bro.

Zach (20:03):
Don't judge the man.

Johnny Mansun (20:04):
So, instead, hearing Sexy Red with nothing
but BBLs around for the firsttime since 2011 will have you
feeling like Robin Williams andJumanji.
That's crazy.

Zach (20:14):
Don't judge the man.

Johnny Mansun (20:17):
Nah, I feel for him.
I hope he got some play thatnight or since then.
Looking at that video, the oddsaren't-.

Zach (20:24):
Yeah.

Johnny Mansun (20:25):
I know that guy I'm playing.
I don't want to say that theway he's bopping to the music
he's like he's tweaking.
He's tweaking up like somefucking drugs bro Nah, I figured
that's crazy.
So the next thing that we have,battle Wrap needs to be

(20:45):
abolished.
We have a video.
Can we play it on here so thepeople can-?
And did you notice I ain'thomophobic because my stick got
a dick, but only hit men, so myweapon gay.
And did you-?
Nah, too far, cancel Battle.

Zach (21:01):
Wrap.
This dude was really like a topfive rapper back when I was
like seven.

Johnny Mansun (21:09):
And did you notice For real, I can't.
I'm done with this.
Just know like Battle Wrapneeds to fucking chill.

Zach (21:28):
I'm afraid I think this probably is going to be the
whatever go ahead.

Johnny Mansun (21:37):
I'm afraid we have to talk about-.

Zach (21:39):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about this nasty name, can I?

Johnny Mansun (21:43):
say I unfollowed no jumper, like a day or two ago
.

Zach (21:46):
I did too.

Johnny Mansun (21:47):
I was like I had it.

Zach (21:49):
And I muted Linda the-.
I unfollowed her ass on Twitterand shit like that.
I got tired of scrolling-.

Johnny Mansun (21:55):
Dude.
Why it's like why, bro, it'slike there you go, she's fucking
dudes now.

Zach (22:03):
Yeah, but I got tired of her just literally posting pussy
on the timeline.

Johnny Mansun (22:07):
She's posting pussy on the timeline, pussy on
the timeline and I'm not herefor it.
Not here for it.
You're out in public trying toget a puff sub and you open up
your fucking.

Zach (22:17):
Instagram.
I'm not here.

Johnny Mansun (22:18):
You open up your Twitter and it's just a picture
of this random chicks vagina.
Come on now.
That's the extra.
I don't know man, I reallydon't like this.

Zach (22:28):
He sold his wife for it, but-.

Johnny Mansun (22:29):
He sold and again , I feel like that's the theme
of this episode and if thelistener, if you could take
anything from this episode, it'sthat money is not the ultimate
thing, that you can still makemoney and retain your pride and
your ethics and your morals.

Zach (22:47):
You don't have to sell your soul or your wife for money
.

Johnny Mansun (22:50):
Speaking of which , Jeff Bezos, if you want to
support the pod, the Patreon isin the link in our bio.

Zach (23:01):
Yeah, honestly, if Jeff Bezos listens to this shit, stop
, don't listen to this shitanymore.

Johnny Mansun (23:07):
This is not a safe space for you, bro.

Zach (23:09):
Fuck outta here.
Fuck outta here, bitch ass,bitch ass.
Yeah, brother, pussy ass.
All right, ethan, fucking pussyass, bitch ass.

Johnny Mansun (23:18):
Fucking pussy, ass, bitch ass.

Zach (23:21):
So that man really did sell his wife for a couple of
million or whatever they made?

Johnny Mansun (23:26):
Yeah, so if you guys don't know what we're
talking about.
Congrats, you're about to findout, whether you like it or not.

Zach (23:33):
Come 22.

Johnny Mansun (23:34):
What do you mean?
You're about to-.

Zach (23:35):
Come 22.
Not doing it?
That's tough.
Yeah, honestly, I don't want totalk about this shit anymore.
Fuck that dude.
Fuck that dude.
You need to get a grip.

Johnny Mansun (23:47):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

Zach (23:50):
I don't know, Is he like a good player?
Yeah, he is Okay word.

Johnny Mansun (24:03):
So he said he tweeted out regarding the NFL's
recent gambling suspensions.
He said I understand rules arerules, but I can risk my life so
that my team wins, but I can'trisk 1K on my team winning.

(24:24):
Is that a fair point?

Zach (24:27):
Zach.
I think it's a fair point, asyou should never be able to bet
on your team to lose, but youdefinitely should be able to bet
on your team to win, right?
I was like, of course you'regoing to put your all out on it
Now.
I do think letting players beton the game, though, does sort

(24:49):
of make it a little wishy-washyabout whether or not people are
playing and what they're playingfor.

Johnny Mansun (25:00):
There's a lot of concerns about the integrity of
the game.

Zach (25:03):
That would definitely ruin the game.
So I'm for not letting playersbet on the game, but I don't
think that players shouldn't beable to bet on a different sport
or some shit like that.
You know what I mean, right,but I don't think that you
probably should not be able tobet on your game.

Johnny Mansun (25:21):
No, what about your sport?
Like other football games,other NFL games.
No.

Zach (25:27):
Still, you want to know why.

Johnny Mansun (25:28):
Because it's like inside and inside, exactly.
I just realized that.
Bro, if you know that thepressure sucks.

Zach (25:35):
And if they you know what I mean why would you of course
you're going to bet on them.

Johnny Mansun (25:39):
And you know, the defense that they're going to
go up against is like, yeah,you're going to have players put
in a melee only game and shitlike that they're putting
imagine you sign your contractand you put your whole contract
down on the one game to lose andyou're about to catch the win.
You're about to catch the ballin the end zone for the win and

(25:59):
you fucking drop it.
That's what I'm saying.

Zach (26:01):
I don't know it's going to fuck up the integrity of the
game.

Johnny Mansun (26:03):
I agree with you.
I think that you know bettingplayers, betting on sports,
would ruin the integrity of thegame.
However, I do feel for this guybecause he is I get where he's
coming from right, because he'slike if I'm risking my life, why
can't I risk my money?
But it's and I like what yousaid, because if you can bet

(26:26):
only on winning, that makessense, but I don't know how you
do that.
It's because the reason?

Zach (26:30):
well, the reason why you're making money right Is
because people are watching asport right when they know that
everybody's playing, like notfor necessarily, like you know,
some extra money on the line orwhatever it is you know, but
because, like, they love thegame and yada, yada, right,

(26:51):
right.
It's just like they're not likebetting to lose or you get you
get.
I'm saying like if they're overhere playing to lose and we
don't know that.
You know what I mean.
Why the fuck would you everwant to watch your favorite team
again?

Johnny Mansun (27:04):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and that would
ruin the game.

Zach (27:07):
Yeah, so I.

Johnny Mansun (27:09):
I just know it's not the same as allowing teams
to tank for draft picks or adraft position because it's like
you're you're not Going outthere really trying to win.

Zach (27:21):
I think you should be able to tank for a draft position.
If you want to go out there andfuck around for a whole season
and ruin your fan base and shitlike that, do it.
If you think it'll get you abetter player, right Fuck it.

Johnny Mansun (27:34):
But I don't think that, like I mean, I'm glad
that the that the dolphinstanked for tua.

Zach (27:39):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like I don't think tanking is aslogan for the dolphins fan
base.

Johnny Mansun (27:44):
Like in what 2019 ?

Zach (27:45):
and to be honest, If you want to tank, there's a team out
there that's happy as fuckyou're tanking, because that
means that's a win for them.
You know what I mean.

Johnny Mansun (27:54):
Yeah, if you want to be a and they're trying to
get that night to make the wildcard, yeah, go tank.

Zach (27:59):
I don't give a fuck, if you know.
That's like being like, yeah,I'm gonna purposely fail so I
get the best tutor.
You know what I mean?
That's all right, whatever, doyour thing, homie, but we're
gonna pass over here, yeah, forsure.

Johnny Mansun (28:12):
We're trying to pass that shit today.
Hey, you know.
So, speaking of the NFL, thereis this thing that they, that
they tweeted and it said thechoice is yours.
You're in an NFL game.
You get one chance to completea play.
Which do you choose?
Gain one yard rushing againstsan francisco's defensive line
for 10 grand.
Right, would you do that for 10grand?
Would you throw and complete ago route to tyree kill?

(28:36):
For 20?
Grand?
You'd have to have a fuckingcannon for an arm to do that.
It's two yards against sanfrancisco's one yard game, game,
one yard, fuck it.
I'm over there, I mean, butthat's difficult because it's
like all right, who's my o-line?
I'm running it right, right inthe agap.

Zach (28:55):
I'm guessing I have san francisco's o-line.
If so, how would you have san?

Johnny Mansun (29:00):
francisco's o-line.
If you're playing them, who'stheir?

Zach (29:03):
rival?
I don't know Okay.

Johnny Mansun (29:08):
The next one is cat catch a pass against sauce
gardener for 50,000 Block micaparson's, mico parson's, yeah,
whatever, who gives a?
Fuck for 100 racks and thenbreak a tackle against erin
donald for a million.

Zach (29:21):
I'm definitely rushing against the 49ers.
It doesn't matter To give afuck, it's a yard.
It's a yard, honestly.
Five dudes who just weigh 300they don't even have to be good
and I could get a yard.

Johnny Mansun (29:36):
Yeah, I think that.
Yeah, but you're gettingpummeled.

Zach (29:39):
Don't give a fuck, I'm just getting.

Johnny Mansun (29:42):
It's one play and okay like, and then I'm getting
rocked, like someone's speeding, like, like, full speed at you
like.

Zach (29:48):
You're just running into a line where these guys are
already hitting each otherunless the linebacker comes in.
Do you think you're gonna doany of those other things?
Break a tackle against erindonald.

Johnny Mansun (29:57):
No, no, no so I was gonna say the only other
thing that I could maybe seemyself doing if I train for it,
don't laugh at me no would be tothrow and complete a go out.
But it couldn't be like.
Everyone knows, I have onechance to throw this go route to
tyreek hill.

Zach (30:11):
But that's, but I don't think, but I don't think I could
do it.

Johnny Mansun (30:13):
I don't think I could do it, like either way, no
matter what there's too much.
I don't have the arm for thatnumber one, like I don't have
the strength arm strength that Ihave to train for that.
And then I'm also not that tall.
I'm like 5, 10, 5, 11, brah, I,I don't know if I can, like, I
don't know the fucking o line,the d line, they're tall as fuck
.
I don't know if I could see andshit.

(30:35):
So I don't know, man, yeah,it's not All right.
We got a couple more topics.
Um, it's getting a littleserious in america.
Here we go today.
Trump was indicted on fourcounts by a grand jury, uh, for
his role in january 6th.
This is a big day in americanhistory that our kids and our

(31:00):
grandkids will read about,hopefully, uh, unless, uh, they
completely, you know, if theylike take over and they just ban
all of this from ever beingtold or read, which would be
terrible.
But, uh, for the moment westill have democracy, we still
have free speech, so we're gonnatalk about it a little bit.
Um, yeah, he's indicted.

(31:21):
Uh, it's pretty crazy.
Uh, conspiracy to defraud theunited states, conspiracy to
obstruct an official proceeding,obstruction of an attempt to
obstruct an official proceedingand conspiracy against rights.
They also named sixco-conspirators.
Uh, I believe, uh, possiblysydney powell and, uh, rudy

(31:44):
juliani Maybe on that list.
Uh, I'm not sure, but yeah,this is crazy.
Uh, I personally, uh, reallyquickly just want to say that
I'm happy that this happened.
I think that we need to do this.
I think that if we don't dothis and we allow this behavior,
it's gonna happen again andthey may be more successful, and

(32:06):
that is not good for democracyor good for our, our society.
I don't think.
What do you?
What do you?
What's your reactions at?

Zach (32:14):
Honestly, man, if he did that shit, send his ass to jail
or whatever.
If he didn't do that shit, Idon't really give a fuck.
I just um, I want to knowwhat's up with that
motherfucking um, that joe biden, uh, student loan shit Facts.
Trying to get that shit facts,bro, fuck trunk.

Johnny Mansun (32:38):
Yo, you know, we didn't even put on the list.

Zach (32:40):
Yo, facts, just fucking.

Johnny Mansun (32:42):
I want them.

Zach (32:43):
I want, yeah, like that nigga.

Johnny Mansun (32:44):
And give me my fucking student loans relief,
but uh yo what we didn't put onthe list fighting bucks, fucking
aliens, bro Yo.

Zach (32:57):
Can we talk about aliens?

Johnny Mansun (32:58):
real quick for five seconds bro.

Zach (32:59):
We come back and aliens are like official masks.

Johnny Mansun (33:01):
Yeah, so welcome back Trump's indicted.
Like fucking four differentlike cases.
Aliens are real Fucking.
What else?
Abortion is illegal, like what?
Like what has happened since welast potted?
He said abortion is whatillegal?
Like a Florida now has asix-week ban.

(33:22):
Like the Supreme Court is goingcrazy, bro.
A lot of crazy shit's going on.
But the aliens, dude, I don'tknow, man, I think I Don't know.
I have two theories.
One of them is that they'rehere to help us because, like
we're destroying the planet andyou know, maybe they put us here

(33:45):
or have some sort of hand inour Development as a species and
they're just here to help us,not destroy earth, whatever,
whatever.
Either that or it's like somerevelations, like end of the
world, like People are gonnalike like a whole thing's gonna

(34:08):
happen.
I don't know.

Zach (34:09):
I wonder if it's like some interstellar shit, where, like,
the aliens are us?
From like a different, like youknow, dimension or some shit.

Johnny Mansun (34:19):
I can't.

Zach (34:20):
That's why we don't like say shit about it or whatever,
cuz it's, like you know, like us, like it's like a certain few
like scientists or whatever, andthey're not gonna, like you
know, snitch on this shit andstuff.
They just know that if theycome back Over here and try and
help us and guide us to theright way, that, like you know,

(34:41):
maybe you know the good,something good will happen or
whatever.
But good, let me know youshould.

Johnny Mansun (34:46):
This might blow your mind because to to add on
to your point that they might beus.
So Not to get too deep or likeweird, but there's people that
claim to be like channels rightFrom, like different dimensions,
or like higher dimensions, likespirit guides, whatever.
There's this famous book calledmany lives, many masters, which

(35:08):
talks about this guy he'sactually from pinecrest who
Through hypnosis he was a, hewas a, he was a therapist, a
psychologist.
One of his patients came to himand in his, in his Sessions
with his patient, he discoveredthat through hypnosis she would

(35:29):
start to recall her past lives.
She was he, they.
Then he then discovers that shewas channeling her
quote-unquote spirit guide thatBasically was there Throughout
all of her reincarnations orwhatever, and was explaining to
this guy like all of her pastlives, basically he'd be like

(35:53):
when, like who are you, what doyou look like?
You know what time is it, what,what year is it?
Where are you?
You know, take me to the lastday that you were alive and how
did you die, etc.
What happens after you died.
And that's what the book isabout.
I say that to say this there.
So that is that whole thing isthis person is claiming that His

(36:16):
patient was basically a channelfor this, like spirit or
whatever from a higher dimension.
Right, there's this other guywho also claims the same thing,
but he claims to be channeling aGray or an ET.
You know, the classic grayalien with the big eyes, the big
head, the small body, likethree feet tall.

(36:39):
Whatever he claims to be, them,his Sto, any, any channels he
claims to be a channel.
Now, something that that isinteresting about his case is
that when they studied his brain, when he goes into this
channeling state, is His.
The part of his brainresponsible for his personality

(37:00):
turns off.
So if his personality and himis not there, who is right?
Also, your brain functioning it.
It basically Reaches itsmaximum around like seven or
eight, no later than ten years,and it's at a set point, let's
say ten Hertz.

(37:20):
They observe this guy when hegoes into this channeling state
and you can't change it.
By the way, they notice thisguy when he was in his
channeling state that not onlywas the personality portion of
his brain turned off, but healso was raising the functioning
of his brain to like 11 and 12Hertz, which is unheard of and

(37:41):
is not really known to be like,possible or like whatever.
I say that to say this heclaims to be a channel for like
these, these ETS.
Whatever his story, is that he,these, these grays?
They come from an Parallelreality of earth that these

(38:03):
humans on this earth Merged withtechnology.
They lost some of theiremotionality and spirituality,
ended up Destroying the earth.
They had to move underground atone point because the earth was
no longer habitable, theirGenetically modifying themselves

(38:29):
to survive underground withoutsunlight, etc.
That's why they're gray andthey had to eventually clone
themselves and that At one pointstopped working.
So they had to then tunnel intoparallel realities to find
humans that were Still alive andstill had viable DNA.

(38:50):
And that's where the wholeprobing shit comes from and how
that they're here, because theyneeded to create hybrids of
their species in order tosurvive.
That is a thing that in a dudein pinecrest spoken.

Zach (39:07):
He's not connected to that .
I'm like no, no, no, he's analien.

Johnny Mansun (39:11):
No, no, no, he just did he in.
He basically introduced thiswhole topic to the West, I would
say, because his book wasreally famous.
He's from pinecrest.
My mom babysat for him and Ihave a crazy story about
Pinecrest gardens, about thatwhole shit.
I met someone that was thatcame in looking for to rent

(39:35):
hibiscus.
Yeah, and the way she wasdescribed.
She's like, oh, I want the roomand I was wondering if I could
put like curtains on the window.
So if you think she's an alien,no, what I'm saying is that she
, she wanted to do like thisthing in hibiscus and I had,
just, I was, I was like theprime of when I was Reading all

(39:56):
this shit.
I see and I go you wouldn'thappen to be a past life
regression hypnotist, would you?
Random, like there's no way Icould have guessed that.
Like there's nothing, she said,that could have, that could
have like led me to thatconclusion.
I Said are you a past liferegression hypnotist?

(40:16):
And she said that's exactlywhat I am.

Zach (40:22):
I Would your response to that.
I said holy shit.

Johnny Mansun (40:27):
I said what the fuck?
She gave me her fucking cardand everything.
I still have it in my wallet tothis day.
But yeah so that's the alienstory you should they're in that
shit away, dude.
I don't know.
That shit's crazy.
I don't know about the aliens,bro, but I guess, as the podcast
goes on, we'll we'll keep youguys updated on the aliens and
our ideas about them and whatnot.
But I'm very fascinated aboutit.

(40:49):
I think it's very fucking crazyand I Don't know what's gonna
happen.
It could be a million differentthings.
Who knows what it really is?
But I'm excited to learn moreand you know, we'll see.
We'll see where it goes.
Hopefully we don't all die.
I don't think we will, becauseI mean, if they Wanted to kill
us and they have this technology, that probably could have
already happened.
So but who knows, who knows?

Zach (41:12):
on that note, I Think that's a good Name for the
episode.

Johnny Mansun (41:18):
Yeah, a little little bonus episode Little
bonus little, a bonus part aboutaliens ranting a little bit.
But yeah, shit's crazy.
This is a butcher shop.
Thank you guys for watching.
We're so happy to be back.
Great episode, good times to beback with you, zach.
I'm so happy to be here.
Welcome to season three.
We're gonna have so much funthis upcoming season.
I hope you guys stay tuned.
I hope you keep listening, keepwatching, keep supporting, keep

(41:40):
liking, keep commenting allthat shit.
Keep showing love.
We'll be back soon, thank you.

Zach (41:47):
Peace.
Oh, oh, should I play that shitoh.
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