July 20, 2022 • 7 mins
Nardean opens up to B Wise about pursuing a rap career despite family pressures and what it was like signing the record deal with famed local label Elefant Traks.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Back it up. The best moments from the week on Kita.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is by your Side with be Wise.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to by your Side with be Wise and Tino. Well,
we have a very special guest with us right now.
She is a MC singer poet. She's just dropped her
EP called The Architect, and it's our pleasure and a
privilege to have her on the show. It's her first
time being with us. So Nadine, welcome back, welcome to
by your Side, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Back, welcome back to your company. There we go.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's exactly it actually, you know, be speaking of like
I feel like I've seen you here and there, different
sessions and things like that out in the scene. But
it's been a minute since like we've just like kind
of sat down and caught up in regards to music.
So I mean, first off, how just how you doing?
Like how you've been?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Bring us up. I'm good man, I'm living, I'm learning,
you know what life psych Some days some days you
crank that soldier. Some days to soldierble did you say,
some days thanks to you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
See that's that's the quiet, right idea. We get that
out of shirt for sure. Yeah, that's how I am
that's real, all right, coll So it's a bit of
ever flowing. Yeah, yeah, you know how go Yeah, well,
I want to jump into some music real quick in
a sense, I mean I've been watching you. I've seen
you doing your thing, I mean from about twenty eighteen,
seeing you, you know, really come out doing your thing,
(01:25):
putting music out independently as well and really just pushing
pushing the dal and building your creativity and your art.
But for any of our listeners that home, who is
the first time hearing you and speaking was getting to
know you. Give us a bit more background about like
where you're from and also what brought you into the
art of making music, what inspired you to start that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, So I have a bit of a weird story
where I did it. So I grew up in an
Egyptian family, like out in western Sydney, yep. And mom
and dad were very much like you know, the African
Arab mentality of like go to Uni, you go to
church every Sunday, you get married, you get a job,
(02:05):
you die and hopefully go to heaven. Yeah that was
the so. And like obviously as well, lawyers, doctors, engineers,
like all through my whole family, you know, and then
I was studying at UNI. I was going to be
an English and drama teacher. Oh really yeah, so have
an English degree actually, and then one day I was
like to.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Talk at home, going to see club well done, bless up.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah yeah. And then I was like kind of one
day I was like this, I want to be a rapper.
I started dating a guy who was a rapper actually,
and then I remember seeing I remember seeing you know, mirror,
mirror reflects. Yeah, yeah, shout mirror, shout out mirror. Man.
I saw her on stage one day. This was like
before like when I was really I was really sheltered.
(02:50):
I was really sheltered, and I saw her on stage
one day and I just remember having like full body
goose bumps, like being like that is what I want
to do, Like I want to do that. I'd never
really live music like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Now I want to get into twenty twenty one. You
made an announcement which was quite significant. You've been pushing
the doll doing your thing as well. And first off,
shout out because to the independent artists. We love how
in the artists we've been grinding from the start, pushing
up this. That's why we you know, we favor on
our show. However, you made an announcement that you signed
to Elephant Tracks. First off, congratulations on that. For those
(03:24):
who don't know, Elephant Tracks is an iconic Australian hip
hop and electronic label. You know, home to like You've
got in the company of like Horror Show, Hormaitude, Earth
Boy Are, just to name a few. And so I
wanted to ask you how did that come about? Like,
how did the whole the relationship start? How did that
come about? And then also how does it feel to
now have you know, more of a family and more
(03:45):
people around you sort of helping you move your message
to the masses.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's funny, It's funny what happened with Elephant Tracks.
I'm just like, I'm not shy, you know what I mean.
I was just kind of of say things that I want.
So there was one moment with Caitlin, who does the
marketing there, and we were kind of messaging on Instagram
about something. I don't remember what, but this was like
(04:12):
maybe maybe it was twenty twenty or something. It was
like a while ago, and I was like, we said
something to each other on Instagram and I was just like, hey,
by the way would totally love if Elephant Tracks cross
Nardine was a thing just saying so I shot man,
I wasen and it was like, because Elephant Tracks was
(04:32):
always my dream label as well, I was always like
I want, I want to sign with Elephant Tracks. So
I shot my shot and that was like, you know,
a year ago or like two years ago something. I
planted the seed. And then eventually, like my manager carlored
kind of started talking to Tim and we sent them
the Architect, which was like very close to being finished
by the time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So you already make you were already in the process
or finalizing.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was already there. And then yeah,
and then Carolina shout out Carolina A and R I
was the first person that she signed. Wow, and then
we did it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Amazing man, No, congratulations because they are a real family.
And then everything it seems to be it seems to
really now really becoming full circle and seeing the push
and then going on. You then finished the Architect, polish
it off, and you've now released The Architect, which was out.
I want to talk about that title. What is tell
us more about the title and also the theme that
(05:24):
overall you wanted people to take home away from this
EP and what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, So the architect the EP is kind of about
how so, you know, we talk about music, I've just
been grinding and like making it happen, you know. And
I've always really strongly believed that your life, like my life,
is my responsibility. I can't make excuses, like I can't
say people are sleeping on me or whatever. It's like
(05:48):
that's my job to get myself out there or whatever. Like,
so with music, I've always had that mentality. But the
architect was actually about relationships and how well I've like,
I have this mentality here, you know, with my career
where I'm like, it's my job, blah blah blah. But
with relationships, I've just like been in just the worst
(06:09):
circumstances where I'm like, I've let people treat me that
way at the end of the day. So that was
my realization, and the whole record as well kind of
goes from like this. At the beginning, I'm like, aha,
you know, and I'm kind of like, well done, I've
made all this amazing stuff over here. What the hell
am I doing on this side of my life?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I know, I know you made it kind of feels
like that. There was a line you said in one
of the records as well as quite similar as uh,
you was identifying that I that I pick up I
choose like the wrong guys and that kind of I got.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
A thing for boys who treat me like you know,
the type cold heart good is by your side with
b wis.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You've been listening to a cater podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Catch more videos, interviews, news and shows at cater dot
com dot au, Australia's home of hip hop and R
and B.
Back it up. The best moments from the week on Kita.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is by your Side with be Wise.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to by your Side with be Wise and Tino. Well,
we have a very special guest with us right now.
She is a MC singer poet. She's just dropped her
EP called The Architect, and it's our pleasure and a
privilege to have her on the show. It's her first
time being with us. So Nadine, welcome back, welcome to
by your Side, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Back, welcome back to your company. There we go.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
That's exactly it actually, you know, be speaking of like
I feel like I've seen you here and there, different
sessions and things like that out in the scene. But
it's been a minute since like we've just like kind
of sat down and caught up in regards to music.
So I mean, first off, how just how you doing?
Like how you've been?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Bring us up. I'm good man, I'm living, I'm learning,
you know what life psych Some days some days you
crank that soldier. Some days to soldierble did you say,
some days thanks to you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
See that's that's the quiet, right idea. We get that
out of shirt for sure. Yeah, that's how I am
that's real, all right, coll So it's a bit of
ever flowing. Yeah, yeah, you know how go Yeah, well,
I want to jump into some music real quick in
a sense, I mean I've been watching you. I've seen
you doing your thing, I mean from about twenty eighteen,
seeing you, you know, really come out doing your thing,
(01:25):
putting music out independently as well and really just pushing
pushing the dal and building your creativity and your art.
But for any of our listeners that home, who is
the first time hearing you and speaking was getting to
know you. Give us a bit more background about like
where you're from and also what brought you into the
art of making music, what inspired you to start that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, So I have a bit of a weird story
where I did it. So I grew up in an
Egyptian family, like out in western Sydney, yep. And mom
and dad were very much like you know, the African
Arab mentality of like go to Uni, you go to
church every Sunday, you get married, you get a job,
(02:05):
you die and hopefully go to heaven. Yeah that was
the so. And like obviously as well, lawyers, doctors, engineers,
like all through my whole family, you know, and then
I was studying at UNI. I was going to be
an English and drama teacher. Oh really yeah, so have
an English degree actually, and then one day I was
like to.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Talk at home, going to see club well done, bless up.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah yeah. And then I was like kind of one
day I was like this, I want to be a rapper.
I started dating a guy who was a rapper actually,
and then I remember seeing I remember seeing you know, mirror,
mirror reflects. Yeah, yeah, shout mirror, shout out mirror. Man.
I saw her on stage one day. This was like
before like when I was really I was really sheltered.
(02:50):
I was really sheltered, and I saw her on stage
one day and I just remember having like full body
goose bumps, like being like that is what I want
to do, Like I want to do that. I'd never
really live music like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Now I want to get into twenty twenty one. You
made an announcement which was quite significant. You've been pushing
the doll doing your thing as well. And first off,
shout out because to the independent artists. We love how
in the artists we've been grinding from the start, pushing
up this. That's why we you know, we favor on
our show. However, you made an announcement that you signed
to Elephant Tracks. First off, congratulations on that. For those
(03:24):
who don't know, Elephant Tracks is an iconic Australian hip
hop and electronic label. You know, home to like You've
got in the company of like Horror Show, Hormaitude, Earth
Boy Are, just to name a few. And so I
wanted to ask you how did that come about? Like,
how did the whole the relationship start? How did that
come about? And then also how does it feel to
now have you know, more of a family and more
(03:45):
people around you sort of helping you move your message
to the masses.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's funny, It's funny what happened with Elephant Tracks.
I'm just like, I'm not shy, you know what I mean.
I was just kind of of say things that I want.
So there was one moment with Caitlin, who does the
marketing there, and we were kind of messaging on Instagram
about something. I don't remember what, but this was like
(04:12):
maybe maybe it was twenty twenty or something. It was
like a while ago, and I was like, we said
something to each other on Instagram and I was just like, hey,
by the way would totally love if Elephant Tracks cross
Nardine was a thing just saying so I shot man,
I wasen and it was like, because Elephant Tracks was
(04:32):
always my dream label as well, I was always like
I want, I want to sign with Elephant Tracks. So
I shot my shot and that was like, you know,
a year ago or like two years ago something. I
planted the seed. And then eventually, like my manager carlored
kind of started talking to Tim and we sent them
the Architect, which was like very close to being finished
by the time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So you already make you were already in the process
or finalizing.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was already there. And then yeah,
and then Carolina shout out Carolina A and R I
was the first person that she signed. Wow, and then
we did it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Amazing man, No, congratulations because they are a real family.
And then everything it seems to be it seems to
really now really becoming full circle and seeing the push
and then going on. You then finished the Architect, polish
it off, and you've now released The Architect, which was out.
I want to talk about that title. What is tell
us more about the title and also the theme that
(05:24):
overall you wanted people to take home away from this
EP and what you were saying.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, So the architect the EP is kind of about
how so, you know, we talk about music, I've just
been grinding and like making it happen, you know. And
I've always really strongly believed that your life, like my life,
is my responsibility. I can't make excuses, like I can't
say people are sleeping on me or whatever. It's like
(05:48):
that's my job to get myself out there or whatever. Like,
so with music, I've always had that mentality. But the
architect was actually about relationships and how well I've like,
I have this mentality here, you know, with my career
where I'm like, it's my job, blah blah blah. But
with relationships, I've just like been in just the worst
(06:09):
circumstances where I'm like, I've let people treat me that
way at the end of the day. So that was
my realization, and the whole record as well kind of
goes from like this. At the beginning, I'm like, aha,
you know, and I'm kind of like, well done, I've
made all this amazing stuff over here. What the hell
am I doing on this side of my life?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I know, I know you made it kind of feels
like that. There was a line you said in one
of the records as well as quite similar as uh,
you was identifying that I that I pick up I
choose like the wrong guys and that kind of I got.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
A thing for boys who treat me like you know,
the type cold heart good is by your side with
b wis.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You've been listening to a cater podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Catch more videos, interviews, news and shows at cater dot
com dot au, Australia's home of hip hop and R
and B.
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