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March 8, 2025 33 mins

In this episode of The Care Collective, Dr. Anjelica Peacock, MD, joins hosts Dr. Uwaila Oronsaye, Pharm.D. and Dr. Siddhi Chandra, OD, to debunk common skincare myths and share expert advice on achieving healthy skin. Dr. Peacock explains the importance of sunscreen for all skin tones, offers tips on preventing and treating keloids, and shares crucial information on spotting early signs of skin cancer. The episode also covers the impact of nutrition on skin health, along with practical beauty tips and customized skincare solutions from St. Hope Healthcare’s compounding pharmacy.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, welcome to the Care Collective, a podcast
brought to you by St HopeHealthcare.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm Dr Uwaila Aranse and I'm Dr Siddhi Chandra.
The Care Collective is apodcast dedicated to empowering
and connecting individuals whoare passionate about creating
positive change.
Our mission is to sharevaluable insights and knowledge,
foster a supportive andinclusive community and provide
engaging and entertaining.
Foster a supportive andinclusive community and provide
engaging and entertainingcontent that inspires growth and

(00:29):
connection.
Together, we aim to make caringcontagious and amplify the
power of collective action.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So welcome to the Care Collective.
I'm Dr Uwala Aranseye.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hi, I'm Dr Siddhi Chandra.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And this podcast is brought to you by St Hope
Healthcare, and today we'regoing to be talking about the
glow guide right Beauty andskincare.
Yes, so I think it's going tobe a really fun episode.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Absolutely.
We're really looking forward totalking about some of our
favorite products and what we dowith our own skincare.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yes, yes, it's one of my favorite topics, so let's
get into it.
The first question is what isyour standout makeup product of
the year and what makes it yourfavorite?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, so for this year it's definitely going to be
lipstick.
Okay, I love a bold lip.
I think, even if you keepeverything else simple, just
putting on a nice lipstick clamsit up.
Yeah, I, everything else simple, just putting on a nice
lipstick clams it up, yeah, Iwill be honest, something I
learned this year and I feellike how have I never done this
before?
Is to use lip liner.
Okay, I know it's wild it'swild.
I look back at all my picturesand I'm like why don't?

(01:36):
I have a yes, so a nice lipstickand a nice little lip liner.
One of my favorite productsactually right now is the NARS
Power Matte the long-lasting one.
Okay, you can put that on andit does not come off.
I promise, even with eating anddrinking, no Okay, and people
like you will literally drinkyour water and no, the glass is

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clear.
Okay, so this is like my go-tofor a mask.
I'm going to have to add thatto my list.
Yes, it's so essential.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I will have to add that on.
That's really good, because,yeah, that's the main thing.
The problem I have with my lipliner is that you always have to
reapply it after you eat ordrink.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes, and then it smudges everywhere.
And then, for the lip liner, Iwas going to recommend the Huda
Beauty Lip Liner.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yes, I think that also Okay okay.
For an affordable option thoughMaybelline the Vinyl Ink.
Okay, that is like a holy grail.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
And that's a lip liner as well.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's a long-lasting lipstick.
Oh, lipstick okay.
It's really moisturizing, whichis surprising, it's not drying
at all.
Vinyl Ink.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yes, okay, nice to know, that's my lipstick.
Yeah a bold lip is always agood vibe.
Bold lip is always a good vibe.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
What would you say is your favorite makeup product?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
So my favorite makeup product, because I like to make
it very simple and quick.
So to make it look like I, youknow, put a little more effort,
a nice blush, so I either gowith like maybe like an orange,
pink or purple tint, or and likea color on my lid.
So just a basic color on my lidand it makes it look like you

(03:07):
went all out.
So that's what I.
Those are my favorite twothings I like to do if I'm just
trying to make it look a littlemore elevated.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know I'm still testing out blushes.
What do you feel that youprefer, like a cream, blush or a
powder brush.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I love a cream blush, but you have to have some
time to do the cream blush, butit just melts into your skin so
effortlessly.
So I do love a cream blush, acream blush.
So, yeah, that's my favorite,the cream blush.
I do still use powder blushes,but most of the time it's a

(03:45):
cream, yeah.
I can say because the powder isquicker, right yeah, it's
quicker, like afterwards, but itjust looks more powdery.
But if you do have a powderbrush and you want it to look
like a cream blush, um, usinglike a setting spray after you
finish your makeup, that giveslike a glowy look, kind of makes
everything melt in, so itdoesn't look as what are you

(04:08):
using to put on your cream blushLike a brush or a sponge?

Speaker 2 (04:13):
A brush?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So I use a.
I don't know the names of thebrushes, but I use a brush to
like stipple it in.
Okay yeah, that's what I waswondering, okay yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
So there were years, years ago, ago, do you remember,
when it was like the biggesttrend to use a sponge for
everything?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
yes, like your foundation, I'm just literally
transitioning over to brushes metoo oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, so my whole life I was always doing a sponge
.
I feel like that was a thingfive years ago, ten years ago,
and last year I really switchedover to using a brush for my
makeup and it changed.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
It's like, first of all, the sponge takes more of
your product so you're likedabbing and it's like soaking up
everything.
So, yeah, that was like thetips that the tiktok girlies
have been saying.
Yes, that was me too, like ohwait.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
So sponges are out of trend now, right, so I switched
to brushes and it made a hugedifference.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Same for me.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Same.
I think that's some great tipsusing a brush.
Speaking of our guest speakeris available right now, so we're
going to join on to Zoom andhave her introduce herself.
All right, oh hi, dr Peacock,hi, oh hi, dr Peacock, hi.
So we have Dr Angelica Peacock,who is the current chief

(05:34):
resident with New York MedicalCollege at a metropolitan
hospital in traditional SpanishHarlem, manhattan, new York.
She earned her medical degreefrom Wayne State University in
medicine at Detroit, michigan,where she worked extensively
with underserved populations andconducted research extensively
with underserved populations andconducted research.
After completing a year ofinternal medicine at St Mary
Mercy Hospital, michigan, shemoved to Cleveland to work
within the dermatologydepartment at University
Hospitals, where she conductedclinical trials on novel

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treatments.
Now, in her final year ofdermatology residency, dr
Peacock is passionate aboutexpanding access to
dermatological care andadvancing research in
inflammatory skin diseases.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having me.
We're excited to ask you somefun questions on dermatology.

(06:17):
Absolutely, fire away.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yes, yes, yes, and, by the way, my name is Uwaila.
I'm Dr Uwaila Aronte.
I'm a pharmacist here from StHope Healthcare, so I'm excited
to be here with you as well.
So I guess I'll start with thefirst question on social media
about chemical versus mineralsunscreens.
So which one would you prefer,and why?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Or you know, depending on your answer.
Sure, so I mean there's plusesand minuses to both physical and
chemical sunscreens.
So for me personally, I workwith mostly patients of skin of
color, and what I generallyrecommend is more of a physical
sunscreen, and the reason why isbecause it tends to be less
what we call photo labile,meaning that it's not going to
break down when you're going tobe in the sun for an extended
period of time.
The nice thing about physicalsunscreens is that I

(07:17):
particularly recommend thingscalled tinted, chemical or,
excuse me, tinted physicalsunscreens rather than regular
chemical sunscreens.
And the number one reason Irecommend this is because it
actually helps to prevent moreof like hyperpigmentation
darkening of the skin on more ofa broader spectrum of the UV
scale.
Anytime you go outside, you'regoing to be exposed to UVB rays

(07:40):
which burn you, UVA rays whichage you, and so what happens is,
with these physical sunscreens,they do a better job of kind of
hastening the process of makingsure that you don't necessarily
develop either burning or aging.
With that being said, chemicalsunscreens are great for people
too Some people like them.

(08:00):
I think what's going to be bestfor my particular patients,
even though I recommend tintedphysical sunscreens, or you
could use your chemicalsunscreens.
The one that's going to be thebest for anyone is going to be
the one that you're actuallygoing to use.
Whether it's going to be one orthe other, Just make sure you
wear your sunscreen every day.
If you're going to be outsidefor an extended period of time,

(08:21):
you need to reapply every twohours, and usually a half hour
before you go outside.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, I think that's the biggest point.
Like every two hours, I feellike for me.
Even I put it on in the morning, I'm good with it, but I forget
to put it on again.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I don't reapply my sunscreen, and that's the thing
is I tell people, you know, takea little sample size or take a
little trial size with you, andyou know, kind of make it into a
habit.
Do it every two hours, put areminder on your phone.
Sometimes I have to do that too, so, and as a dermatologist,
sometimes I forget too.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
So yeah, and I think that's the whole every two hours
, like having like they havelike the different powders and
things that you can use overyour makeup and stuff.
So it's just kind of being moreone that fits your lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Exactly, and the thing is is a lot of those
tinted sunscreens that I wastalking about.
They have the consistency ofmakeup, so a lot of my patients
like it.
So then, instead of putting on,just like a regular BB cream or
any sort of foundation, theyput on their tinted sunscreen,
they walk outside and they'reready to go.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Great.
So for my question what is themost prevalent skincare
misconceptions you encounter,and how can individuals educate
themselves to avoid thesepitfalls?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah.
So, going back to the sunscreen, I think one really big
misconception, especially withthe patients that I treat in
skin of color, is that thedarker your skin tone, you don't
necessarily need to use anysort of sunscreen.
That is a big misconception.
Even though there's a lot ofindividuals who do have darker
pigment, who do have a littlebit more melanin, that doesn't

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necessarily provide you withmore protection than, let's say,
someone with a skin color suchas mine.
What I really like to tellpeople is that even though you
are darker skin skin, anyone isat risk of melanoma.
So for people who are actuallydarker skinned, there is a type
of melanoma that tends to bevery dangerous.
It's called acral lentiginousmelanoma, and this is typically

(10:15):
seen in individuals with darkerskin types.
And so what I tell people is inorder to help to prevent this
you know you wear your sunscreen, everyone should be wearing
your sunscreen.
I think, for me personally, justworking with a lot of
individuals from a number ofdifferent backgrounds, I think,
with me telling people this, Ithink people just don't realize

(10:36):
it and then, once again, oncethey start wearing that
sunscreen and doing those thingsand making it a habit, I I'd
like to say that I help thesepeople and I'd like to say that
you know what happens is they doit and then they tell their
friends, they tell their family,and so it's kind of like a
domino effect.
And then I think, in terms ofhow people should educate

(10:57):
themselves, I think the biggestthing is that a lot of people
tend to get a lot of theirinformation from social media.
I don't I would not actuallyrecommend doing something like
that just because there are alot of things that people put on
the internet, as I'm sureeveryone is very well aware,
that is not necessarily true.
So what I tell people is look,go to your board certified

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dermatologist, go to the AADwebsite, that's, the American
Academy of Dermatology.
Or, for my patients, especiallyof skin of color, I recommend
them to go on the Skin of ColorSociety website and look things
up.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, I love that, I love that.
So that's a good segue into mynext question.
It's good, I love that you workwith a lot of people skin of
color, and so my next questionwould be what is the best way to
treat keloids which that, sincethat is a big thing that people
of color seem to get, and howcan we prevent them from forming

(11:55):
after an injury?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And how can we prevent them from forming after
an injury?
Sure, so I'll start with yoursecond question first.
So, for preventing keloids, Ithink the biggest thing is that
if you know you're prone tokeloids, I would recommend
patients to not undergo thingslike unnecessary tattoos,
piercings or like electiveprocedures that could
potentially put you at risk.
Keloids tend to happen on kindof the central area right, so

(12:19):
the chest a lot of the times,the shoulders and the earlobes.
Other things that I recommendmy patients to do is, especially
if they need a surgery,especially if it's going to be
something that has to be a bigsurgery, I usually recommend
talking to their physicianbeforehand to kind of discuss
management options, discussexpectations and things like
that.
So those would be the thingsthat I generally recommend for

(12:40):
my patients in terms of, youknow, potentially developing
keloids.
Now, in terms of treatment,there's a number of different
things that we do.
From a dermatology perspective.
There's our tried and truething that we do, which is
called intralesional kenaloginjections.
So these are steroid injectionsthat we can utilize for people
who already have keloids.
Something that's actually comeon the market, that's gaining a

(13:03):
little bit of popularity as well, is using something called
cryotherapy or something calledliquid nitrogen.
What liquid nitrogen does is itbasically freezes the keloid.
It kind of helps to break upthat scar tissue and then what
we do is the intralesionalinjections afterwards, and it's
actually have really goodsuccess and there's actually
some clinical studies that haveshown that it has very good

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clinical success.
The only thing about the liquidnitrogen is that sometimes it
can cause hypopigmentation.
It can cause white spots inpatients.
Other things that we can use,especially after keloids are
treated, are things likesilicone scar gel sheets, and
especially for patients whodevelop keloids are treated, are
things like silicone scar gelsheets, and especially for
patients who develop keloids.
On the ears, we like usingpressure earrings, which tend to
work pretty well.

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Otherwise, I have had a lot ofpatients who tend to get keloids
.
The main thing you can do isobviously get rid of them.
Right, you want to do surgery,but the thing is is after
surgery I usually tell patientslook, you're going to commit to
about a good six months worth ofinjections to make sure that
the keloids don't come back, andI think the last thing that we
do which tends to be for peoplewho have very large keloids is

(14:05):
we'll do surgery and then afterthat you can do what's known as
radiation therapy.
Usually, the radiation therapyis only a couple of sessions and
it takes a lot of coordination,and I think that's going to be
for the people who have verylarge keloids for patients who
want to be a little bit moreinvolved in their therapy, just

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because they don't want it tocome back, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay, that's really nice to know.
I like that cryotherapy.
I have a couple of friends thathave that, so I will be sharing
that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Moving on to I have one more question for you.
I'm going to combine twoquestions actually.
What are some key questions andtreatments also that our
patients here at St Hope shouldask their primary care providers
related to skincare anddermatological concerns?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, so, absolutely so.
I think the main thing thatpatients should be asking number
one is just about general skinhealth, right?
So I mean everyone, like I wasmentioning, I would prefer if
everyone wore their sunscreen,but the other thing is, you know
, there's a number of differentpeople who come from a number of
different backgrounds, right,and I understand with you guys
over at St Hope, there's a largepatient population who hasa

(15:10):
history of HIV.
So with HIV, I think there's alot of things that you know
could potentially happen topatients, right, a lot of dry
skin.
Some people have eczema,psoriasis, things like that.
So I think the first thing thatI encourage people to ask is,
in terms of just overall dryskin, how do I treat my dry skin
?
Right, I get that question alot, and so what I tell people

(15:32):
is look, I think you need topractice gentle skincare.
I tell my patients, you know,taking lukewarm showers, try not
to take scalding hot showers.
Pat yourself dry when you'reoutside of the shower.
Don't rub the skin and irritateit and use a lotion or a cream.
That's going to be best for you, that's going to be fragrance
free.
I think the second thing that Ireally encourage my patients to

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ask their primary carephysicians is again going back
with HIV, is things like what'sgoing to be the best way to look
for signs and symptoms of skincancer, and so what we as
physicians, as dermatologists,recommend is following something
called the ABCDE rule.
I'm not sure if you guys areaware of that.
So A is for asymmetry.
You know, if your one side ofyour mole looks a little bit

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square and the other side looksa little bit kind of funky,
that's going to be concerning.
B is for borders.
If the border is raised, theborder tends to bleed.
That's going to be something.
Concerning C is for color.
I always say three or morecolors.
You got to get concerned Black,blue, brown, pink, white,
things like that.
D is for diameter, usually forthings that tend to be over,

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like about a good like four tosix millimeters.
We get a little bit concerned.
And E is for evolution.
Let's say, today it's, you know, very, very small.
In the next six months itdoubles, if not triples in size.
That's something that youreally need to be asking your
primary care physician about,especially because the main
thing we want to prevent ismelanoma in anyone in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Mm, hmm, that's good to know these are great
questions.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Our patients are going to come in well-informed.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yes, they are.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I hope so.
I hope so They'll be like Doc,have you done the ABCD have?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
you Right?
Yeah, I think that was all ofour questions, right?
Did you have any otherquestions?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I think that is all I have as well.
Thank you so much for joiningus.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
This was really informative and very useful for
us, so thank you.
Thank you so much for having meand obviously, if you guys have
any other questions or want toreach out, I'm always here yes,
thank you so much thank youladies.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Um, dr picot was so wonderful, very informative.
Like I learned a lot from there.
Like the cryotherapy I'mdefinitely going to have to look
into because you know I kind ofask questions for myself as
well.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
So, dr Ouala, tell me what are some favorite skincare
ingredients and why.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Some of my favorite skincare ingredients.
Okay, so for me, I guess, withmy skincare I like to keep it
simple but effective.
So some of my favorite skincareingredients.
The first thing that comes tomind for me is niacinamide, and
the reason I love niacinamidebecause for me I used to.
Well, naturally I have oilycombo, oily acne prone skin, so

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niacinamide is really good forpeople with like oily acne prone
.
If you have large pores, itjust gives you that flawless
look to your skin, so orporeless look.
So that's one of my favoriteingredients.
I know some people do have asensitivity to niacinamide, but
I'm so happy I do not.
So if you are wanting to trythat, just be careful and, you

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know, do a patch test.
Yeah, so niacinamide is one ofmy favorite.
Anything that has that helpswith like anything that helps
with hyperpigmentation or likemelasma, especially for me, like
after I have kids, like when Iafter my pregnancy, I have
horrible melasma.

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So that's why I have to makesure I wear my sunscreen and
that I'm using ingredients thathelps to keep it brightened and
not get that melasma I'll getlike that mask around my face
and on my neck.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
So oh, okay, I need to try it.
I actually haven't tried it.
Oh really, yeah, you shouldsend me a recommendation, it's
like which one?
I would try it.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
What expert tips can you share for achieving a
flawless makeup application?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay, I'm actually really excited about this
question.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Because I watched every YouTube, every.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
TikTok video and.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I feel like I studied for an exam to get my makeup
there.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And it was a lot.
Like you know, makeup trendschange and skincare changes.
Yeah, I felt like the last timeI did it I was in my early 20s
and then, you know, now I'm inmy, we'll just say it's our
early 30s okay, that's whatwe'll say for real and I was
like, okay, I think it's timefor me to reinvest in education
about makeup.
Um, the first thing, absolutely,for achieving a flawless makeup

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application, is to hydrate,hydrate, hydrate.
I agree, right, I mean, I'mtalking about even the amount of
water you consume.
It really does show on yourface it really does and to have
that flawless finish, you need agood base.
So, of course, drinking a lotof water, but then, prepping
your skin, you need to have agood moisturizer or primer.
Yes, and don't forget eye creamyou know, we're all putting

(20:23):
those concealers under our eyesand stuff and that skin is so
delicate.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
And it can dry your skin out.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yes, and then if you're wondering why your makeup
looks patchy and your eyes lookpatchy, that was me, okay.
That was me as the eye doctor.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I was like why are my eyes so?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
patchy.
This is not working Because youreally got to step up your eye
cream and you put it on beforeyou put your makeup.
Yes, it's not just like amorning or nighttime thing.
You really have to like hydrateyour face before you put on
makeup.
I think that's the biggestthing.
And then another one is like,between each step of putting on
your makeup, take time to justlike let it set and dry.

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So don't just put on like yourprimer, then your foundation,
then your concealer, then yourblush.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
And then it's like all like this.
It doesn't melt in it, it's notcohesive.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, it looks patchy like you said, yes, so you have
to let it set.
Take a second.
Have a cup of coffee.
Okay, you have to make time andyou?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
you have to make time to do your makeup right, so
whenever you are, wanting tohave that flawless look beauty
takes time it does well.
Is there anything differentthat you do when it um like if
you don't, if you have a shortamount of time?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I do.
I've actually cut out theamount of makeup, like right now
, all I have is a tintedsunscreen I don't have
foundation on because, I'll behonest, I had a.
You know I had patients thismorning I was getting to the
clinic I was like look let mejust do.
I want to look beautiful, butit's just not within my my time
frame, you still do lookbeautiful I was like it's gonna
be a tinted sunscreen, a littlebit of concealer, um.

(21:53):
And then the other thing I wasgonna say is you have to set
your makeup, so a setting powder.
Yeah, again, I'm gonna keepreferencing huda beauty because
I just love her products.
I use the Huda Beauty settingpowder and that just really
helps with any oily, greasy lookand just helps your makeup last
.
That's part of my everyday.
Just sunscreen concealer.

(22:13):
I do my eyebrow a littlebecause you know, in our culture
it's all about the eyes.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, and it crames the eyes, you have to.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
So I do that.
But if I was doing like a fullglam look, I also wanted to put
out the what is it?
The Patrick Star.
They're one size.
It's called one size.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
One size the waterproof.
So I haven't used any of hisproducts or the Patrick Star
products and I'm just like I'vebeen seeing it everywhere and
I'm like, okay, I need to trysomething wear.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
and I'm like, okay, I need to try something you need
to try that setting.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Spray it literally will like freeze your face.
Yeah, that's what.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Anytime I see people spraying, they're like it's like
hairspray on your foot beforeyour makeup it seriously is you
can go out and it's raining athunderstorm, a hurricane your
makeup will be good.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I need to try it.
That's another one to put on mylist.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yes, so that those are, like my big recommendations
for that flawless makeup thatlasts long, all day, okay, okay,
that's good to know.
Dr Walla, being in pharmacy,tell us what role nutrition and
supplementation plays inachieving healthy skin.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Okay, so this one is very dear to my heart because
for me, I guess my backgroundI'm a person who used to suffer
from acne in my teens andeverything so it was this when I
went into like doing moreresearch on it.
It's actually a lot of researchthat people who have acne or

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even like psoriasis, eczema,that they have a lot of
inflammation or they're noteating enough like the healthy
fats.
So eating less pretty much junkfood, dairy things that spike
your insulin, sugar, those cancause inflammation in your body
and can come up in your skin,and so a lot of times, our skin

(23:58):
is just a sign of what'shappening in our bodies.
So some of my favoritesupplements that help with skin
my number one on the list isgoing to be omega fatty acids.
So those are really good If youdon't get enough healthy fats
from seafood, like salmon, orfrom avocados, or using olive

(24:20):
oil instead of canola oilcertain oils that you cook with
is important as well, because alot of those things the bad fats
can cause inflammation.
So, yeah, omega fatty acids issomething that I take every day,
and I've been taking it everyday since I was like in college
maybe.
So that's the number one tipthat I would say is really good,

(24:42):
but of course you do have tocheck in with your doctor to
make sure that it's OK that youknow you don't have any
conditions, that you don't needto be taking that, but it is
good for not only skin healthbut for heart health.
It's also good for that as well.
So, yeah, nutrition does play abig part.
And then, like with dairy, soyeah, nutrition does play a big
part.
And then, like with dairy, sosome people are sensitive to

(25:04):
dairy or, in general, dairy doescause a little inflammation in
your body.
So certain milks like for me, Idon't drink.
Most of the stuff I drink islike non-dairy, but not only for
my skin, but because I'm alittle lactose intolerant as
well, because I'm a littlelactose intolerant as well.

(25:24):
But non-dairy milk I usually doalmond milk or milk
alternatives just for my tummyand just because I noticed when
I cut it out I did have lessbreakouts and things like that,
yeah.
So, yeah, there is a lot of ourconditions.
Our skin conditions does have alot to do with how we eat and

(25:44):
our nutrition.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I definitely agree with you.
I also use almond milk, so hugedifference.
But I mean, I love a good milk.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, but that's the thing.
Milk tastes good.
You know, I love me some milk,but milk does not love me back.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Definitely, I agree with you.
I mean, right now I'm eatingvery healthy because I'm doing a
75-day challenge which we willhear more about next episode.
Okay, but it's like strict dietso I've cut out like anything
processed all carbs, all sugar,and it's definitely the best my
skin has ever looked.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I agree, and don't you feel more like you have more
energy right?
For sure, once you get pastthat first week yeah then you're
good, I know because when Itell you sugar is so addictive,
it's literally like a drug whenyou're trying to come off of
sugar.
Yeah, you, you really have tohave your mind in the game
because, like they said it,sugar is a dopamine.

(26:40):
Rush it.
It spikes your dopamine justlike a drug would.
So you do have to really putyour mind to it.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
And you know I'm going to tag off of you on the
fatty oils, the omega-3, right.
You're saying that's actuallyreally good for your eye health.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So it's not just good for your skin, it's good for
your eyes, especially dry eyes.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
So it just helps keep your eyes dry and healthy.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
You know that's so funny because I did used to have
really dry eyes and yeah, Iguess I never really put two and
two together.
That yeah.
I don't really experience dryeyes as much anymore.
Well, there you go, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
That's good to know.
Two and one Okay.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, Dr Chandra, what are the essential do's and
don'ts of applying eye makeup?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Okay.
So when it comes to eye makeup,there's definitely some do's
and definitely some don'ts.
One of the do's I said Ialready brought up was eye cream
.
Okay, that just helps to keepmoisturized and you know, when
you're putting on makeup on top,it just has a very nice have,
that healthy barrier In terms ofdon'ts.
These are some things that havecome up in my eye exams.

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I would say don't put eyelineron your waterline.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Really On the inside.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
You can do the outside, but think about the
inside.
All that stuff mixes with yourtears and it gets in your eyes
and it causes red, itchy,irritated eyes.
Yeah, but it looks so good?
I know, I know, but it's not sonot on the eye line, on the eye
on the outside it's fine but,like you know, like some people
like really put it right there,like it's touching your eye you

(28:16):
know, it is because you feel it.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Let's not lie, you feel it touching your eye.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
So that's definitely a don't.
And another huge one because um, I've noticed this a lot with
patients is lashes.
I feel like that's the newestthing, right, getting your
lashes done.
So one if you're getting themdone, make sure you're going to
someone who practices goodhygiene.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, because I I actually have had um um some
patients that have come in andhave like an infection from
their last extension and I'mjust like it's like a bit it's
horrible.
Oh, I've been there, yeah, youknow like I see it all the time.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
so you want someone who's doing good hygiene, who's
like using the right products,like ask them what products
they're using to apply the lashextensions on.
And you yourself, if you'regetting a lash extension, you
should be cleaning them everynight.
You're supposed to wash yourlashes every night.
So I guess you know we havepatients coming in and I'll see

(29:10):
the glue, I'll see all thatstuff on their eye and they're
like oh, my eye hurts so bad.
I was like it hurts looking andI see why.
Like this is not good.
And then there's you you know,I've also had the opposite,
where I'm like who does yourlashes?
Because I need to go there okay, this is flawless, it's clean,
it's perfect, like this is greatand it's a learning process.

(29:32):
But with lashes, definitely theupkeep and make sure you're
going somewhere.
Good, if you're doing themyourself, because there was
definitely a time I was doingthem myself um, make sure you're
taking them off fully at night.
They are supposed to come offand you're getting that glue out
of your eyelashes, okay.
Because, it will stick and itwill irritate your skin.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah, that's so true.
Yeah, I definitely have comeacross a few patients that come
and their eyes are literallybloodshot red.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It's those lashes yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
So those are good tips.
Okay, Dr Chandra.
So what should patients knowabout skincare when it comes to
St Hope?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's a great question.
I think one of the biggestthing is that we offer it right.
Yes, you should definitelycheck in with your primary care
providers when you come to StHope.
I was just talking with DrGoody and she was saying how she
goes over skincare routine.
She'll go over your face, washyour moisturizer and also like
any medications you need, likeif you need a retinol or
tretinoin or something forbrightening acne medications.

(30:38):
So our providers are going overskincare and we all want to
look young and beautiful.
So take those extra few minutesand ask them those questions,
because we also have compoundingat our pharmacy.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
We do.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Excellent, and why don't you tell us a little bit
more about that, dr Lawler?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So, yes, we do have compounding available at St Hope
and some of our skincareproducts that we have.
We have one for like hormonalacne.
So if you do suffer from likehormonal acne, that is something
that you can go to yourprovider for and let them know
and they will be able to justwrite your prescription for our
compound.
We also have a compound that isreally good for like people who

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suffer from melasma like myself, compound that is really good
for like people who suffer frommelasma like myself, or
hyperpigmentation.
So if you have like dark spotsand dark areas on your face that
you have not been able to getrid of, then we also have a
cream for that too.
So that's something that youcan look into.
And the other one that weactually actually have is for
people with really dry, bumpyskin.

(31:43):
So if you have, like you know,those rough patches that
sometimes people get, like onthe back of their arms or on the
back of their legs or certainareas where you have the what
they call keratosis pilaris.
So it's just like those bumpyareas sometimes on your elbow as
well that you're just not ableto get rid of and it's really
dry, we also have a cream forthat.

(32:05):
So like, if you're looking forskincare products that are
custom made for you and for yourskin concerns, then you can
always come to St Hope and askyour provider to write you a
prescription for that.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh, that's great to know.
Definitely, this was an amazingpodcast.
I learned so much and I lovelearning about your tips and
tricks as well.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes, I loved it as well.
Yes, so I guess we are comingto an end.
We just want to say thank youfor watching the Care Collective
podcast.
This podcast is brought to youby St Hope Healthcare and we
service all your health careneeds.
You can visit us atofferinghopeorg and you can
check us out.
If you're wanting to book anappointment, you can also go

(32:49):
there as well.
So thank you for listening.
Thank you for joining you.
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