December 19, 2024 • 35 mins
Ever wonder how your brain chemistry, protein intake, and blood sugar impact your relationship with alcohol? In this episode, I sit down with Lindsay Marie, a mental health nutrition coach and mom of four, as she shares her inspiring story of finding balance after giving birth. We dive into how brain chemistry shapes our well-being, the feelings of disconnection that can arise when it's out of sync, and simple ways to reconnect with our natural systems.
We also talk about the powerful connection between diet and cravings—especially the role of protein in stabilizing blood sugar and balancing neurotransmitters like serotonin and dopamine. If you’ve struggled with stress or addictive habits, this conversation is packed with insights, like how nutrition can naturally support your body and mind.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Catholic Sobriety Podcast, the
go-to resource for women seekingto have a deeper understanding
of the role alcohol plays intheir lives, women who are
looking to drink less or not atall for any reason.
I am your host, christi Walker.
I'm a wife, mom and ajoy-filled Catholic, and I am
(00:22):
the Catholic Sobriety Coach, andI am so glad you're here.
Ever since I read the bookDrink the New Science of Alcohol
and your Health by ProfessorNutt, I was completely blown
away to learn just how muchalcohol affects our brains and
why.
And I don't know about you, butwhen I know the why of
(00:45):
something, it often gives me theclarity and drive that I need
to make the desired changes thatI want to do.
But I just haven't put intopractice yet, and I hope that
that is what this episode willdo for you.
And because I don't feelqualified to speak on this very
important topic, I wanted tofind an expert that could help
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explain the neuroscience behindalcohol, overdrinking and
developing a disorderedattachment.
So, as you might imagine, I wascompletely over the moon
excited when my guest todayreached out to me and I just
couldn't wait to have her on tome, and I just couldn't wait to
(01:28):
have her on.
Lindsay Marie is a mental healthnutrition coach and creator of
Master your Mood, a programdedicated to helping women
naturally restore their energy,happiness and mental health
through personalized nutrition.
With her relatable approach andscience-backed strategies,
lindsay empowers women to breakfree from their vices and create
lives they truly love.
(01:50):
That's what we all want.
Right, it is yeah.
Thank you so much for beinghere, lindsay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Thanks for inviting me, or however God made this
happen.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Exactly it was definitely a God thing.
So why don't you just go aheadand just start by telling us a
bit more about yourself and howyou got into doing the work that
you do?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sure, yeah, I, like you said, I'm a mental health
nutrition coach and I got intothis space because there was a
time in my life where I didn'tfeel like myself anymore.
I had three babies really closetogether and in hindsight what
that did was deplete my brainchemistry a lot and I didn't
replenish it very well.
(02:30):
And then I had gotten to thisspace where, like I said, I just
didn't feel like myself.
I was yelling at my husband, mykids, like screaming at myself,
screaming in my pillow, likejust really not, um, not who I
was created to be for sure, andfeeling really crappy about the
fact that I didn't know what todo about it.
Um, so I was chasing after allthe things um, chiropractor, my
(02:56):
diet, um, therapy, uh, gosh, allof the things.
Like all of the things thatthey say self-care.
I would go to the.
I would go to the things likeall of the things that they say
self-care.
I would go to the.
I would go to the coffee shopand just stare at the ceiling,
like one night a week to justlike try to shut down my brain
and my life and just relax.
Date nights with my husband ona regular basis.
(03:19):
We would go on vacation withoutthe kids, like nothing was
really making the differenceuntil I learned about my brain
chemistry and how, when I hadthose three babies really close
together, I kind of got wonkywith my brain chemistry and
never, never fixed it.
So turning my attention to thebrain chemistry helped enhance
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all of those things that I hadbeen trying and spinning my
wheels.
Once I got my brain chemistryhumming, I felt good, I felt
human, I felt like, oh yeah,this is how God designed life to
feel, like what I was feelingbefore.
So just that change was goshnine years ago and it's still
(04:05):
that way, like it hasn't.
I haven't gotten to a placewhere, like, there's enough
awareness now, like you said,like once you know right, like
you can do something about it.
And so learning that,replenishing my body, um, and
just being aware, um, for thelast nine years, has continued
to keep me in this space ofpurpose and clarity and just,
(04:29):
yeah, loving life in that.
Regretting, you know, creatinga family or whatever it was at
the time.
I certainly was resentful ofbeing a mother back in the day
because of the life I createdand didn't feel great about.
And so now I live on my dreamfarm and have four kiddos and,
(04:49):
yeah, just really feel blessedevery day and grateful every day
and can live in that space ofgratitude and purpose and
delight in the Lord for just thelife he's blessed me with.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank you so much for sharing that.
I am just listening to you andI'm sure I can just imagine so
many women out there justnodding their head.
Yes, like the whole, like youdidn't feel like yourself
anymore.
You were, you know, just notreally enjoying this life that
you had created.
You didn't know how to shutyour brain off, that I hear that
so much.
(05:24):
Like, how do I shut my brainoff?
Especially because I work withwomen who are using alcohol to
try to shut their brain off andthey don't know what else to do
or how to do it.
So not only am I sure that theysee themselves in your story,
but they're probably so excitedwith the hope that you provide
(05:46):
too, and they want to know why,like, how did you do that?
Like, how did you do that?
So why don't we start with youjust telling us what some of the
key symptoms are that are inour bodies that help us to relax
and feel pleasure and findfocus?
Because I think that's mostlywhat we're all struggling with.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, it's such a beautiful thing that God created
us with these systems to feelthis way.
Naturally, he wants us to behappy, he wants us to relax, he
wants us to have the energy todo the things that he put us in
this world to do, and he wantsus to just be comforted and have
pleasure and just put that bigsmile on your face and feel
great, like authentically, andnot like you're hiding behind
(06:32):
something.
He created all of that in usand, yeah, it's a beautiful
thing.
So, yes, you have four systemsin your body that are designed
to do that.
You have your happy engine iswhat I call it your relaxation
engine, your energy engine andyour pleasure engine, and all
(06:55):
four of those systems are fedthrough amino acids, and amino
acids come through protein.
So it's really important to eatprotein, because if you're not
eating protein, you're notgetting the amino acids that all
of these engines need in orderto fire.
So these systems that I'mtalking about the happy engine,
(07:18):
relaxation engine, pleasureengine and energy engine really
have like scientific names rightand they're really probably
more common these days than theyused to be.
So I can tell you what they areright.
Your happy engine is yourserotonin.
Your serotonin system was putthere because God wants you to
be happy.
Okay, you have catecholamines,which is the most popular one is
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dopamine.
These days People hear a lotabout dopamine.
So your dopamine, yourcatecholamines, were put there
to give you energy.
If you don't have energy, thenthere's something going on with
that catecholamine system.
The relaxation engine is yourgamma.
So that system is in your bodyto help you relax, because God
wants you to relax.
And then your pleasure engineare those endorphins, those
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happy, loving, just carefree,like I, just that like smile
that comes on your face whenyou're truly like enjoying your
children or your little girl oryour little boy like runs up to
you and like mommy, you're homeand like gives you that big hug
and that, those feelings thatyou just feel they're meant.
(08:22):
God wants you to feel, those.
God wants you to enjoy life inthat way.
That's why he gave you yourendorphins, or your pleasure
engine.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Fantastic.
That's really helpful to knowand understand all of those
different things, and I reallylove that you explained that we
can actually fuel those engineswith protein, because we are
hearing so much about proteinthese days.
Right, I'm a woman, aperimenopausal woman, so I get
that messaging all the time Likeyou need to be eating your
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protein.
It used to be drink your water,drink your water, drink your
water.
Now it's like eat your protein,but you explained it in a
perfect way.
Like I just knew I needed toeat my protein to build muscle
and do other things, but now,knowing that it also fuels all
of those engines as I love thenames of them it just makes it
(09:13):
even more.
I want to eat it even more.
So, like I said at thebeginning, like knowing things
just helps so much.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I have another big reason you should eat
protein, actually that has to dowith addiction as well.
So protein I tell people to eatit for two reasons.
One, because of why I alreadysaid, but also because of blood
sugar balance.
When you eat protein, your bodyis not so dysregulated when it
comes to the sugar.
It helps balance out your sugar.
And when you are on a bloodsugar roller coaster, it's a lot
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easier to fall into your vices.
And when your blood sugar isspiking, your body starts to
feel all the symptoms of thatblood sugar spiking You're tired
, you're cranky, your eyes areburning, you know, like
something's happened right.
When that's spiking and you goto the food, or you go to the
alcohol, or you go to thechocolate, or you go to the
carbs.
You go to the chocolate or yougo to the carbs, whatever it is,
(10:06):
to try to feel better when it'speaking.
And then, oh shoot, it wentreally high.
Now your blood sugar is dipping, dipping, dipping, dipping,
dipping, and now you have theopposite problem, but you get
similar.
You get similar symptoms again.
So the symptoms that are reallylike.
In a lot of cases, this is wherethe alcohol comes in the
strongest, because your bloodsugar just went down so low.
(10:28):
Now alcohol is going to makeyour blood sugar come back up,
and so you start to cravealcohol, If that's already one
of your vices.
You're more likely to go to thealcohol if your blood sugar is
dipping.
So by eating the protein,you're giving yourself all of
that fuel that you need forthese feel good engines, and if
you eat it often enough oftenenough, which I say like every
(10:50):
three to four hours you'rekeeping that blood sugar stable
throughout the day to setyourself up to not go into those
valleys of your blood sugarwhere you're inevitably going to
be up against this craving foralcohol again, if it's already
one of your vices.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, that's really helpful to know because I think
a lot of times women are just orpeople in general are just
craving alcohol and they don'tknow why, or they think that
they're craving it for thealcohol.
But a lot of times it could bea variety of things, like I
always have my clients check inwith themselves, like are you
hungry, angry, lonely, tiredthat whole, or are you bored?
(11:29):
Or.
But I mean, then there's thishave you been getting enough
protein?
Is your blood sugar spiking?
You know?
That's just another impacts ourbrains to crave it because
(11:49):
we've made a habit of it for solong that it's depleted some of
these.
Is that correct, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So not only has it depleted some of them, possibly,
but like what happens?
It's fascinating.
We'll talk about serotonin.
Okay, amino acids when you eatthe protein, like fire that
serotonin neurotransmittersystem and it makes you happy.
What's tricky is alcohol comesinto your system and can look
like the same thing and it firesyour serotonin.
(12:18):
So it's not that it's notfiring your serotonin, it is
firing your serotonin,legitimately firing your
serotonin.
That's why it's making you feelhappy, it's making you feel
more relaxed in that socialenvironment, because your
serotonin is firing because ofthe alcohol.
But then what happens is likeyour body gets like used to that
and it's like, oh well, I don'treally need to go through all
(12:41):
the work in order to pull theamino acids out of that protein
because it's a lot of work,right, you need a lot of things
going on in your body to digestthat protein and do it well.
So the alcohol is mimicking whatyour body actually needs to
fire the serotonin.
So then your body ends upcraving that alcohol because
(13:02):
it's getting lazy in actuallydoing the protein part of things
and it's like, oh, I can justdrink alcohol and get it real
fast, leading to one of thosecravings.
So, yes, it depletes yourserotonin, but really because
it's replacing it, like if youstop, stop drinking it, it
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doesn't have to take a long time.
I guess is what I'm saying,like, like when I, when I hear,
like well, my serotonin isreally low, like it doesn't have
to take forever and ever andever to build that back up.
Um, just like the alcohol cando it quickly, there's other
hacks that we can do to do itmore naturally to get your
serotonin to boost up as well.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And when you're talking about that.
Thank you for explaining thatso well, but when you're talking
about that, so I had somebodyon who was talking about, like
how it depletes our dopamine andthen we rely on it to get that
dopamine because we are notproducing it on our own and it
can take anywhere from 30 to 90days to like reset those
(14:10):
receptors or, you know, likemessing with all of those
neurotransmitters or thosechemicals that are in our brains
that help us to sleep, to beawake, to be happy to, you know,
(14:30):
do all those things.
I guess the reason I wanted topoint that out is, like also be
patient with yourself, becauseit may not happen right away.
Like I tell people all the timeyou'll sleep so much better
when you do not drink alcohol.
You will sleep so much better.
Now, it doesn't happen rightaway, though, right, because is
(14:51):
it the chemicals in your brainthat have to kind of learn how
to reset to be able to help yousleep and stay asleep, because
it's been disrupted from thealcohol?
I don't do you know?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah Well, let's say you're let's say again you're
using alcohol for.
Let's say you're using it forrelaxation, because that's a
typical thing, like in theevening.
Like you, you know the kids arefinally in bed and you got a
glass of wine and you just likeit's my time to relax.
What's happening in that momentis what the wine's actually
doing is firing your GABA.
So your GABA is firing so youcan relax.
(15:26):
Now you can go to sleep becauseyou're relaxed.
If you just cold turkey, no morewine, I'm just going to you
know willpower through this.
I know that if I go long enoughwithout the wine, like things
will start to reset.
Your body's not relaxing.
Your body got used to the wineto fire your GABA and now you're
(15:48):
not drinking the wine.
So your GABA is not firing, soyou're not relaxing, so you're
not sleeping Right At first.
What I do with clients is weactually use supplements to fire
that GABA.
So if it's an evening thing, wejust make sure that you are
(16:10):
taking supplements in theevening in order to fire that
GABA system, so that your bodyisn't completely like cold
turkey, Like what you expect meto fall asleep now.
You used to drink wine to helpme relax and now you're just
going to not do anything to helpme relax and you're going to
expect me to fall asleep.
No, I value it, so it's.
I mean it works eventually, butit's.
It can be a lot of willpowerand a lot of mindset and a lot
(16:32):
of stuff, and you can make iteasier on yourself by getting
some supplements to reallysupport that GABA.
In the evening You're like, oh,it's still fiery, Now I can
still go to sleep, Right.
And then gradually, at thatpoint, you know, then you can
start making real lifestylechanges when you're supporting
yourself with that personalizednutrition Because you're not
(16:52):
trying to willpower througheverything which gets exhausting
and hard sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah.
So, from your experience, whydo you think that for some
people it's so hard to say noand for other people it seems
like it's easier for them tostop?
You know, with like one or twodrinks Like I'm a person that
will just if I have one, it'slights out Right, but if my
(17:20):
husband has one, he's like oneand he's great.
You know, like sure how.
What's the difference?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, yeah, everybody reacts to alcohol differently,
just like everybody.
Honestly, like in this world,like we know, everybody reacts
to corn differently, everybodyreacts to dairy differently,
everybody reacts to alcoholdifferently for one reason or
another, and it's probably a lotmore complex than dairy and
corn and gluten and all thatstuff.
But in my experience and fromwhat I've learned, someone let's
(17:52):
say somebody's allergic toalcohol.
That might be why they can'tsay no.
That might be like when you'reallergic to alcohol, when you're
having an abnormal reaction toalcohol, you're actually craving
more.
It's not normal to like be ableto drink so much and keep
craving.
And keep craving likesomething's going on in your
body with the way it'sprocessing that alcohol.
That is needs to be repaired.
(18:15):
Some people are just allergic.
Some people it's omega-6deficiency.
Your essential fatty acids aresomething's off with your
essential fatty acids.
So you're depressed, right, andwhat the alcohol does in that
case is it lifts the depression.
But really the root cause isthat your essential fatty acids
(18:39):
aren't being processed correctly, and that's what we got to work
on.
Other times it's there's someenzyme in your body.
I don't remember what it'scalled.
It's really hard to say, so Idon't ever remember it, and I
think it's that you have toomuch of it, but like you convert
alcohol so fast and it createsthis like it.
(19:01):
It's something about youropioid receptors, which is your
endorphins.
So you're getting that likeremember that pleasurable
feeling with the kid walking inand you're like, oh you know,
and you're so happy to see yourkid and it gives you those all
those great endorphin feelings.
For some people that's what itfeels like when they drink
alcohol and so like, and that'sthe only way they know how to
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get that feeling then at thatpoint into that extreme is to
drink it.
So and then for me personally,like I don't have to drink a
drop to go have fun and feelrelaxed and alcohol's never like
been like a thing in my lifethat I've ever really wanted.
But it's not.
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It's really from my perspectiveabout like my biochemistry and
my family history, like mygenetics and all that stuff.
Like some people just don'thave the, they don't have the
vice, because chemically they'vejust never understood why does
somebody want to drink.
You know where other people arelike how do you not drink?
(20:03):
But it's so much in in ourbiochemistry and really getting
to the root of of thenutritional reason why someone's
craving, everybody's different?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, absolutely and it's.
I always say that alcohol isjust a symptom, like overuse of
alcohol or over drinking alcohol.
That's just a symptom ofsomething else.
So, whether it's, I always saythat alcohol is just a symptom,
like overuse of alcohol or overdrinking alcohol.
That's just a symptom ofsomething else.
So, whether it's somethingchemically that's happening
within our bodies, whether it'swe're looking to not think about
how bad today was or, you know,like trying to forget about
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things, it can be to try to healtrauma that will never be
healed with a substance.
And I always like to tell peopleit's like taking an irritant,
like something that's irritatingyou or that you don't want to
do or you don't want to thinkabout, and packing snow around
it.
Right, so you just pack snowaround it and it's good Like it.
That's why you keep going backto it, because it's doing
(21:02):
something for you.
But as soon as that snow meltsaway, you're left like, like you
were saying, the depressionlifts for a moment, but then
it's back as soon as that buzzwears off and it can be even
worse.
That anxiety, that depression,your sleep is worse.
You wake up in the middle ofthe night.
It helps you fall asleep, butyou wake up in the middle of the
night.
You wake up in the middle ofthe night.
(21:23):
It helps you fall asleep, butyou wake up in the middle of the
night.
And so I like to tell peoplethat when you're doing, when
you're making changes, you'retaking that irritant.
And I used to work in jewelryforever, so I think about like
diamonds and gemstones, but Iwas thinking about a pearl and
how a pearl is an irritant andan oyster puts layer after layer
(21:44):
of nacre to build this treasureand this really solid thing
that will not ever like meltaway.
And that's what we do with goodhabits, that's what we do by
resetting thoseneurotransmitters, that's what
we do with good nutrition andtaking care of ourselves.
And, like, so much of the workthat you do with women is
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building up that resistance tothose irritants so that you can
deal with them.
And then when it's, you know itdoesn't just melt away, like
you've been able to deal with itor find ways to cope that are
so much healthier and better foryou.
But I think we don't understandthat a lot, because it's oh it's
(22:29):
fixing this problem right now,whether it's alcohol, food
scrolling, whatever, because weall have our things that we use
to make ourselves feel better,to numb out, to cope, and yeah.
So that's why I love the workthat you're doing, because I
think that you're giving oh, Iknow you're giving women like
really good tools and resourcesand you know a way to get
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through that without having toturn to it.
It's not that you never will,but it definitely gives you more
like tools in your tool belt.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I would say people feel like empowered
around it after working with me.
Like it's like, whether that'scoffee or sugar or alcohol, it
no longer controls their life.
They don't have to rely on it.
Um, you know, they can chooseto have a cup of coffee instead
of needing it every morning, andthey can choose to have a drink
(23:26):
if that's in their wheelhouseand that's what they want to do.
Like it's not.
It no longer becomes this thingthat their life is depending on
, right.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, they're free from it.
They're free to choose.
That's what I always say.
That's how you know when youreach your desired level of
sobriety Right, because you cantake it or leave it with peace.
It's not causing chaos andthat's like what you were saying
with coffee or sugar orwhatever, not feeling compelled
or controlled by it anymore,when it when you're not thinking
about it and planning about it,and you know, like doing all
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those things that we do, yeah,and we're really, really
attached to something, yeah, soI'm glad that you pointed that
out.
So how can somebody know iftheir cravings for substances
like alcohol are rooted in thatimbalance or if it's like a
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deeper need for healing orsomething else?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sure, so I would say that's always where I start,
personally is with theneurotransmitter system.
The neurotransmitter system,and how can we like support the
neurotransmitter system first,to make sure that that's not why
it's happening, because to methat's the easiest thing to fix.
We can get some supplements, wecan get your neurotransmitter
(24:46):
systems firing, um, to get it tomake it so.
Life isn't so hard.
And then, as we see, thosedifferent energy and those
different engines fill up or notfill up, then that's when we
start to go, okay, we've got thenutrition, we've got the
(25:07):
supplements to help you firethese neurotransmitter systems
naturally, but you're stillcraving the thing.
Like now we go like what'sdeeper?
What's deeper?
Because they might go fromtheir buckets.
Like when you take, if you takethe mood checkup, you'll like
get like a different score foreach one of your engines and
somebody will start at like atwo, like they're supposed to be
(25:29):
at 10, if it's like all the wayfull, and they'll start at like
a two, and so we'll get themfrom, say, a two to a six.
Well, that feels amazing, youknow, it feels amazing, but it's
like, yeah, but 10 is likeheaven, so maybe let's try to
get to an eight, and so thereit's like when they're feeling
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like at that six, they'reprobably where it's more of a
habit now instead of a I have tohave this.
It's like wait, I couldactually say no right now, but
I'm just going in the fridge,because I always went in the
fridge at eight o'clock at night, so I could probably just stop
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going in the fridge, you know.
But it's still like just on theedge of it's like that next
level where things start to get,I think, more into the
differentmitter systems arefiring so much better than they
were when they were at theirlowest.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, that's great.
So, supplements, nutrition,exercise what are your pillars?
Do you have certain things thatyou suggest?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
The protein is number one.
So everybody who comes into myprogram knows that I'm going to
ask them every time we talkwhen's the last time you ate?
Before we even talk, anytime,they send me a message and
something's going off.
They're going to tell me and Iate one hour ago and this is
what happened.
So it's very much aroundgetting the protein in your body
(27:15):
to balance the blood sugar.
And then it's the supplements.
We use amino acids to make surethat we are supporting the
right engines that need the mostsupport to get them to be able
to eat right, Right, Like a lotof people come in and they're
like Lindsay, I can't eatprotein every three to four
(27:35):
hours.
I don't even know what to eatand I don't have time to figure
out how to make it easy, and soit's like, okay, well then we're
just going to actually get yourneurotransmitter system firing
so that you can learn how torelax and tolerate stress and
have the energy to do this, andthen we'll go back and we'll fix
the food part of your lifestyle.
But and we'll fix the food partof your lifestyle but first we
got to get you out of thisoverwhelmed state and we're just
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going to do that with somesupplements as a quick crutch
and then go back to the food.
I also use labs in my programthat get really specific about
which foods are really affectingyour metabolism.
So when the foods are affectingour metabolism they're not
getting digested well and thenthat leads to all the autoimmune
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stuff.
So between the supplements andthe really personalized food
plan based on the not really afood plan, it's like
substitutions of.
You know, eat this type ofapple instead of that type of
apple, because this type ofapple, because this one
metabolizes in your body waybetter than that one, and stop.
So, yeah, just stop stressingyour body out with the things
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that you're eating and supportyour stress tolerance by taking
these different amino acidsupplements for whatever engine
needs the most support in yourbrain engine needs the most
support in your brain.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, that's great.
That makes so much sense totackle that first and then, you
know, address everything else ifthat's the main cause.
So one of the things that I geta lot with women who come to me
is that they just feel, youknow, they feel so alone, they
feel like there's somethingwrong with them.
They've been just beatingthemselves up constantly because
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I have no willpower, I'm nevergoing to get this, you know,
like all those mean things thatwe like to think about ourselves
, and so I'm always all aboutlike, let's look at this, let's
examine this from a place ofbeing like a scientist and not
being judgmental, but what ifthey just still feel broken?
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Like what do you have to say towomen like that?
That?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
God designed you on purpose and that your brain and
your body is meant to feel good.
And if you don't feel good yet,it's just that you haven't quite
figured out what your body istrying to say and what it really
wants.
And so my hope is that, bylistening to this and following
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Christy and myself, like justthe information that we've
shared gives you the hope thatyou need to keep pressing on,
because, as long as you're here,god doesn't want you to give up
, and your life, your purpose,really depends on you being able
to live with energy andhappiness and be able to relax
and be able to just soak up allthose lovable moments in your
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life, and he wants that for you.
He wants that for you no matterwhat, because he designed you
that way.
I know he did, because you'rehuman and you're woman and
you're listening to this, soyou're meant to feel good.
And, yeah, it's only a matterof trust that he really did
create you that way, to believethat he created you that way and
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that there is a way throughthis, there's people to help.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Oh, that was beautifully said, Lindsay.
Thank you so much for that.
So I know that everybody isgoing to want to know where they
can find you, where they canlearn more about you, and
definitely about your moodtracker that I mentioned at the
beginning.
Is it the Master, your Moodprogram?
But you also have a moodtracker.
(31:34):
Anyway, I'm going to stoptalking.
You just tell them all thethings.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Oh, buddy, yeah, so my program is called Master your
Mood, but the easiest way tojust kind of get a gauge on how
these engines are operating inyour body is to take the mood
checkup.
You can find that atmoodcheckuprebuildyourbrainnet
and that will take you through aseries of questions that asks
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you about different symptomswith all these different engines
and you'll be able to see whichengines are really struggling
the most and hopefully reallystart to connect some dots on
how you really are designed tofeel great and it's just this
engine that needs a little extrasupport right now.
So once you fill that out,you'll get a customized like
it's a graph with all thedifferent levels of how all your
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different buckets are fullright now and any next steps to
take as far as supporting all ofthose engines will be included
in the mood checkup results thatyou'll get in your email after
you fill it out will be includedin the mood checkup results
that you'll get in your emailafter you fill it out.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Perfect, I will have links in the show notes.
And yeah, I just thank you somuch, lindsay, for being here.
I've learned a lot, and I'msure that my listeners have too,
so I appreciate you and I lookforward to talking to you again
soon.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Thanks, so much for having me, Christy.
I really appreciate it and Iwish the best for all of your
viewers and yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Well, that does it for this episode of the Catholic
Sobriety Podcast.
I hope you enjoyed this episodeand I would invite you to share
it with a friend, who mightalso get value from it as well.
And make sure you subscribe soyou don't miss a thing.
I am the Catholic Sobrietycoach, and if you would like to
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learn how to work with me orlearn more about the coaching
that I offer, visit my website,the catholic sobriety coachcom.
Follow me on Instagram at theCatholic sobriety coach.
At the Catholic Sobriety Coach.
I look forward to speaking toyou next time, and remember I am
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here for you, I am praying foryou.
You are not alone, thank you.
Welcome to the Catholic Sobriety Podcast, the
go-to resource for women seekingto have a deeper understanding
of the role alcohol plays intheir lives, women who are
looking to drink less or not atall for any reason.
I am your host, christi Walker.
I'm a wife, mom and ajoy-filled Catholic, and I am
(00:22):
the Catholic Sobriety Coach, andI am so glad you're here.
Ever since I read the bookDrink the New Science of Alcohol
and your Health by ProfessorNutt, I was completely blown
away to learn just how muchalcohol affects our brains and
why.
And I don't know about you, butwhen I know the why of
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something, it often gives me theclarity and drive that I need
to make the desired changes thatI want to do.
But I just haven't put intopractice yet, and I hope that
that is what this episode willdo for you.
And because I don't feelqualified to speak on this very
important topic, I wanted tofind an expert that could help
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explain the neuroscience behindalcohol, overdrinking and
developing a disorderedattachment.
So, as you might imagine, I wascompletely over the moon
excited when my guest todayreached out to me and I just
couldn't wait to have her on tome, and I just couldn't wait to
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have her on.
Lindsay Marie is a mental healthnutrition coach and creator of
Master your Mood, a programdedicated to helping women
naturally restore their energy,happiness and mental health
through personalized nutrition.
With her relatable approach andscience-backed strategies,
lindsay empowers women to breakfree from their vices and create
lives they truly love.
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That's what we all want.
Right, it is yeah.
Thank you so much for beinghere, lindsay.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Thanks for inviting me, or however God made this
happen.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Exactly it was definitely a God thing.
So why don't you just go aheadand just start by telling us a
bit more about yourself and howyou got into doing the work that
you do?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sure, yeah, I, like you said, I'm a mental health
nutrition coach and I got intothis space because there was a
time in my life where I didn'tfeel like myself anymore.
I had three babies really closetogether and in hindsight what
that did was deplete my brainchemistry a lot and I didn't
replenish it very well.
(02:30):
And then I had gotten to thisspace where, like I said, I just
didn't feel like myself.
I was yelling at my husband, mykids, like screaming at myself,
screaming in my pillow, likejust really not, um, not who I
was created to be for sure, andfeeling really crappy about the
fact that I didn't know what todo about it.
Um, so I was chasing after allthe things um, chiropractor, my
(02:56):
diet, um, therapy, uh, gosh, allof the things.
Like all of the things thatthey say self-care.
I would go to the.
I would go to the things likeall of the things that they say
self-care.
I would go to the.
I would go to the coffee shopand just stare at the ceiling,
like one night a week to justlike try to shut down my brain
and my life and just relax.
Date nights with my husband ona regular basis.
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We would go on vacation withoutthe kids, like nothing was
really making the differenceuntil I learned about my brain
chemistry and how, when I hadthose three babies really close
together, I kind of got wonkywith my brain chemistry and
never, never fixed it.
So turning my attention to thebrain chemistry helped enhance
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all of those things that I hadbeen trying and spinning my
wheels.
Once I got my brain chemistryhumming, I felt good, I felt
human, I felt like, oh yeah,this is how God designed life to
feel, like what I was feelingbefore.
So just that change was goshnine years ago and it's still
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that way, like it hasn't.
I haven't gotten to a placewhere, like, there's enough
awareness now, like you said,like once you know right, like
you can do something about it.
And so learning that,replenishing my body, um, and
just being aware, um, for thelast nine years, has continued
to keep me in this space ofpurpose and clarity and just,
(04:29):
yeah, loving life in that.
Regretting, you know, creatinga family or whatever it was at
the time.
I certainly was resentful ofbeing a mother back in the day
because of the life I createdand didn't feel great about.
And so now I live on my dreamfarm and have four kiddos and,
(04:49):
yeah, just really feel blessedevery day and grateful every day
and can live in that space ofgratitude and purpose and
delight in the Lord for just thelife he's blessed me with.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Thank you so much for sharing that.
I am just listening to you andI'm sure I can just imagine so
many women out there justnodding their head.
Yes, like the whole, like youdidn't feel like yourself
anymore.
You were, you know, just notreally enjoying this life that
you had created.
You didn't know how to shutyour brain off, that I hear that
so much.
(05:24):
Like, how do I shut my brainoff?
Especially because I work withwomen who are using alcohol to
try to shut their brain off andthey don't know what else to do
or how to do it.
So not only am I sure that theysee themselves in your story,
but they're probably so excitedwith the hope that you provide
(05:46):
too, and they want to know why,like, how did you do that?
Like, how did you do that?
So why don't we start with youjust telling us what some of the
key symptoms are that are inour bodies that help us to relax
and feel pleasure and findfocus?
Because I think that's mostlywhat we're all struggling with.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, it's such a beautiful thing that God created
us with these systems to feelthis way.
Naturally, he wants us to behappy, he wants us to relax, he
wants us to have the energy todo the things that he put us in
this world to do, and he wantsus to just be comforted and have
pleasure and just put that bigsmile on your face and feel
great, like authentically, andnot like you're hiding behind
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something.
He created all of that in usand, yeah, it's a beautiful
thing.
So, yes, you have four systemsin your body that are designed
to do that.
You have your happy engine iswhat I call it your relaxation
engine, your energy engine andyour pleasure engine, and all
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four of those systems are fedthrough amino acids, and amino
acids come through protein.
So it's really important to eatprotein, because if you're not
eating protein, you're notgetting the amino acids that all
of these engines need in orderto fire.
So these systems that I'mtalking about the happy engine,
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relaxation engine, pleasureengine and energy engine really
have like scientific names rightand they're really probably
more common these days than theyused to be.
So I can tell you what they areright.
Your happy engine is yourserotonin.
Your serotonin system was putthere because God wants you to
be happy.
Okay, you have catecholamines,which is the most popular one is
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dopamine.
These days People hear a lotabout dopamine.
So your dopamine, yourcatecholamines, were put there
to give you energy.
If you don't have energy, thenthere's something going on with
that catecholamine system.
The relaxation engine is yourgamma.
So that system is in your bodyto help you relax, because God
wants you to relax.
And then your pleasure engineare those endorphins, those
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happy, loving, just carefree,like I, just that like smile
that comes on your face whenyou're truly like enjoying your
children or your little girl oryour little boy like runs up to
you and like mommy, you're homeand like gives you that big hug
and that, those feelings thatyou just feel they're meant.
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God wants you to feel, those.
God wants you to enjoy life inthat way.
That's why he gave you yourendorphins, or your pleasure
engine.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Fantastic.
That's really helpful to knowand understand all of those
different things, and I reallylove that you explained that we
can actually fuel those engineswith protein, because we are
hearing so much about proteinthese days.
Right, I'm a woman, aperimenopausal woman, so I get
that messaging all the time Likeyou need to be eating your
(08:52):
protein.
It used to be drink your water,drink your water, drink your
water.
Now it's like eat your protein,but you explained it in a
perfect way.
Like I just knew I needed toeat my protein to build muscle
and do other things, but now,knowing that it also fuels all
of those engines as I love thenames of them it just makes it
(09:13):
even more.
I want to eat it even more.
So, like I said at thebeginning, like knowing things
just helps so much.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, I have another big reason you should eat
protein, actually that has to dowith addiction as well.
So protein I tell people to eatit for two reasons.
One, because of why I alreadysaid, but also because of blood
sugar balance.
When you eat protein, your bodyis not so dysregulated when it
comes to the sugar.
It helps balance out your sugar.
And when you are on a bloodsugar roller coaster, it's a lot
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easier to fall into your vices.
And when your blood sugar isspiking, your body starts to
feel all the symptoms of thatblood sugar spiking You're tired
, you're cranky, your eyes areburning, you know, like
something's happened right.
When that's spiking and you goto the food, or you go to the
alcohol, or you go to thechocolate, or you go to the
carbs.
You go to the chocolate or yougo to the carbs, whatever it is,
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to try to feel better when it'speaking.
And then, oh shoot, it wentreally high.
Now your blood sugar is dipping, dipping, dipping, dipping,
dipping, and now you have theopposite problem, but you get
similar.
You get similar symptoms again.
So the symptoms that are reallylike.
In a lot of cases, this is wherethe alcohol comes in the
strongest, because your bloodsugar just went down so low.
(10:28):
Now alcohol is going to makeyour blood sugar come back up,
and so you start to cravealcohol, If that's already one
of your vices.
You're more likely to go to thealcohol if your blood sugar is
dipping.
So by eating the protein,you're giving yourself all of
that fuel that you need forthese feel good engines, and if
you eat it often enough oftenenough, which I say like every
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three to four hours you'rekeeping that blood sugar stable
throughout the day to setyourself up to not go into those
valleys of your blood sugarwhere you're inevitably going to
be up against this craving foralcohol again, if it's already
one of your vices.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, that's really helpful to know because I think
a lot of times women are just orpeople in general are just
craving alcohol and they don'tknow why, or they think that
they're craving it for thealcohol.
But a lot of times it could bea variety of things, like I
always have my clients check inwith themselves, like are you
hungry, angry, lonely, tiredthat whole, or are you bored?
(11:29):
Or.
But I mean, then there's thishave you been getting enough
protein?
Is your blood sugar spiking?
You know?
That's just another impacts ourbrains to crave it because
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we've made a habit of it for solong that it's depleted some of
these.
Is that correct, yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So not only has it depleted some of them, possibly,
but like what happens?
It's fascinating.
We'll talk about serotonin.
Okay, amino acids when you eatthe protein, like fire that
serotonin neurotransmittersystem and it makes you happy.
What's tricky is alcohol comesinto your system and can look
like the same thing and it firesyour serotonin.
(12:18):
So it's not that it's notfiring your serotonin, it is
firing your serotonin,legitimately firing your
serotonin.
That's why it's making you feelhappy, it's making you feel
more relaxed in that socialenvironment, because your
serotonin is firing because ofthe alcohol.
But then what happens is likeyour body gets like used to that
and it's like, oh well, I don'treally need to go through all
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the work in order to pull theamino acids out of that protein
because it's a lot of work,right, you need a lot of things
going on in your body to digestthat protein and do it well.
So the alcohol is mimicking whatyour body actually needs to
fire the serotonin.
So then your body ends upcraving that alcohol because
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it's getting lazy in actuallydoing the protein part of things
and it's like, oh, I can justdrink alcohol and get it real
fast, leading to one of thosecravings.
So, yes, it depletes yourserotonin, but really because
it's replacing it, like if youstop, stop drinking it, it
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doesn't have to take a long time.
I guess is what I'm saying,like, like when I, when I hear,
like well, my serotonin isreally low, like it doesn't have
to take forever and ever andever to build that back up.
Um, just like the alcohol cando it quickly, there's other
hacks that we can do to do itmore naturally to get your
serotonin to boost up as well.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And when you're talking about that.
Thank you for explaining thatso well, but when you're talking
about that, so I had somebodyon who was talking about, like
how it depletes our dopamine andthen we rely on it to get that
dopamine because we are notproducing it on our own and it
can take anywhere from 30 to 90days to like reset those
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receptors or, you know, likemessing with all of those
neurotransmitters or thosechemicals that are in our brains
that help us to sleep, to beawake, to be happy to, you know,
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do all those things.
I guess the reason I wanted topoint that out is, like also be
patient with yourself, becauseit may not happen right away.
Like I tell people all the timeyou'll sleep so much better
when you do not drink alcohol.
You will sleep so much better.
Now, it doesn't happen rightaway, though, right, because is
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it the chemicals in your brainthat have to kind of learn how
to reset to be able to help yousleep and stay asleep, because
it's been disrupted from thealcohol?
I don't do you know?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah Well, let's say you're let's say again you're
using alcohol for.
Let's say you're using it forrelaxation, because that's a
typical thing, like in theevening.
Like you, you know the kids arefinally in bed and you got a
glass of wine and you just likeit's my time to relax.
What's happening in that momentis what the wine's actually
doing is firing your GABA.
So your GABA is firing so youcan relax.
(15:26):
Now you can go to sleep becauseyou're relaxed.
If you just cold turkey, no morewine, I'm just going to you
know willpower through this.
I know that if I go long enoughwithout the wine, like things
will start to reset.
Your body's not relaxing.
Your body got used to the wineto fire your GABA and now you're
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not drinking the wine.
So your GABA is not firing, soyou're not relaxing, so you're
not sleeping Right At first.
What I do with clients is weactually use supplements to fire
that GABA.
So if it's an evening thing, wejust make sure that you are
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taking supplements in theevening in order to fire that
GABA system, so that your bodyisn't completely like cold
turkey, Like what you expect meto fall asleep now.
You used to drink wine to helpme relax and now you're just
going to not do anything to helpme relax and you're going to
expect me to fall asleep.
No, I value it, so it's.
I mean it works eventually, butit's.
It can be a lot of willpowerand a lot of mindset and a lot
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of stuff, and you can make iteasier on yourself by getting
some supplements to reallysupport that GABA.
In the evening You're like, oh,it's still fiery, Now I can
still go to sleep, Right.
And then gradually, at thatpoint, you know, then you can
start making real lifestylechanges when you're supporting
yourself with that personalizednutrition Because you're not
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trying to willpower througheverything which gets exhausting
and hard sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah.
So, from your experience, whydo you think that for some
people it's so hard to say noand for other people it seems
like it's easier for them tostop?
You know, with like one or twodrinks Like I'm a person that
will just if I have one, it'slights out Right, but if my
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husband has one, he's like oneand he's great.
You know, like sure how.
What's the difference?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, yeah, everybody reacts to alcohol differently,
just like everybody.
Honestly, like in this world,like we know, everybody reacts
to corn differently, everybodyreacts to dairy differently,
everybody reacts to alcoholdifferently for one reason or
another, and it's probably a lotmore complex than dairy and
corn and gluten and all thatstuff.
But in my experience and fromwhat I've learned, someone let's
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say somebody's allergic toalcohol.
That might be why they can'tsay no.
That might be like when you'reallergic to alcohol, when you're
having an abnormal reaction toalcohol, you're actually craving
more.
It's not normal to like be ableto drink so much and keep
craving.
And keep craving likesomething's going on in your
body with the way it'sprocessing that alcohol.
That is needs to be repaired.
(18:15):
Some people are just allergic.
Some people it's omega-6deficiency.
Your essential fatty acids aresomething's off with your
essential fatty acids.
So you're depressed, right, andwhat the alcohol does in that
case is it lifts the depression.
But really the root cause isthat your essential fatty acids
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aren't being processed correctly, and that's what we got to work
on.
Other times it's there's someenzyme in your body.
I don't remember what it'scalled.
It's really hard to say, so Idon't ever remember it, and I
think it's that you have toomuch of it, but like you convert
alcohol so fast and it createsthis like it.
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It's something about youropioid receptors, which is your
endorphins.
So you're getting that likeremember that pleasurable
feeling with the kid walking inand you're like, oh you know,
and you're so happy to see yourkid and it gives you those all
those great endorphin feelings.
For some people that's what itfeels like when they drink
alcohol and so like, and that'sthe only way they know how to
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get that feeling then at thatpoint into that extreme is to
drink it.
So and then for me personally,like I don't have to drink a
drop to go have fun and feelrelaxed and alcohol's never like
been like a thing in my lifethat I've ever really wanted.
But it's not.
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It's really from my perspectiveabout like my biochemistry and
my family history, like mygenetics and all that stuff.
Like some people just don'thave the, they don't have the
vice, because chemically they'vejust never understood why does
somebody want to drink.
You know where other people arelike how do you not drink?
(20:03):
But it's so much in in ourbiochemistry and really getting
to the root of of thenutritional reason why someone's
craving, everybody's different?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, absolutely and it's.
I always say that alcohol isjust a symptom, like overuse of
alcohol or over drinking alcohol.
That's just a symptom ofsomething else.
So, whether it's, I always saythat alcohol is just a symptom,
like overuse of alcohol or overdrinking alcohol.
That's just a symptom ofsomething else.
So, whether it's somethingchemically that's happening
within our bodies, whether it'swe're looking to not think about
how bad today was or, you know,like trying to forget about
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things, it can be to try to healtrauma that will never be
healed with a substance.
And I always like to tell peopleit's like taking an irritant,
like something that's irritatingyou or that you don't want to
do or you don't want to thinkabout, and packing snow around
it.
Right, so you just pack snowaround it and it's good Like it.
That's why you keep going backto it, because it's doing
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something for you.
But as soon as that snow meltsaway, you're left like, like you
were saying, the depressionlifts for a moment, but then
it's back as soon as that buzzwears off and it can be even
worse.
That anxiety, that depression,your sleep is worse.
You wake up in the middle ofthe night.
It helps you fall asleep, butyou wake up in the middle of the
night.
You wake up in the middle ofthe night.
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It helps you fall asleep, butyou wake up in the middle of the
night.
And so I like to tell peoplethat when you're doing, when
you're making changes, you'retaking that irritant.
And I used to work in jewelryforever, so I think about like
diamonds and gemstones, but Iwas thinking about a pearl and
how a pearl is an irritant andan oyster puts layer after layer
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of nacre to build this treasureand this really solid thing
that will not ever like meltaway.
And that's what we do with goodhabits, that's what we do by
resetting thoseneurotransmitters, that's what
we do with good nutrition andtaking care of ourselves.
And, like, so much of the workthat you do with women is
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building up that resistance tothose irritants so that you can
deal with them.
And then when it's, you know itdoesn't just melt away, like
you've been able to deal with itor find ways to cope that are
so much healthier and better foryou.
But I think we don't understandthat a lot, because it's oh it's
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fixing this problem right now,whether it's alcohol, food
scrolling, whatever, because weall have our things that we use
to make ourselves feel better,to numb out, to cope, and yeah.
So that's why I love the workthat you're doing, because I
think that you're giving oh, Iknow you're giving women like
really good tools and resourcesand you know a way to get
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through that without having toturn to it.
It's not that you never will,but it definitely gives you more
like tools in your tool belt.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, I would say people feel like empowered
around it after working with me.
Like it's like, whether that'scoffee or sugar or alcohol, it
no longer controls their life.
They don't have to rely on it.
Um, you know, they can chooseto have a cup of coffee instead
of needing it every morning, andthey can choose to have a drink
(23:26):
if that's in their wheelhouseand that's what they want to do.
Like it's not.
It no longer becomes this thingthat their life is depending on
, right.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, they're free from it.
They're free to choose.
That's what I always say.
That's how you know when youreach your desired level of
sobriety Right, because you cantake it or leave it with peace.
It's not causing chaos andthat's like what you were saying
with coffee or sugar orwhatever, not feeling compelled
or controlled by it anymore,when it when you're not thinking
about it and planning about it,and you know, like doing all
(24:00):
those things that we do, yeah,and we're really, really
attached to something, yeah, soI'm glad that you pointed that
out.
So how can somebody know iftheir cravings for substances
like alcohol are rooted in thatimbalance or if it's like a
(24:22):
deeper need for healing orsomething else?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Sure, so I would say that's always where I start,
personally is with theneurotransmitter system.
The neurotransmitter system,and how can we like support the
neurotransmitter system first,to make sure that that's not why
it's happening, because to methat's the easiest thing to fix.
We can get some supplements, wecan get your neurotransmitter
(24:46):
systems firing, um, to get it tomake it so.
Life isn't so hard.
And then, as we see, thosedifferent energy and those
different engines fill up or notfill up, then that's when we
start to go, okay, we've got thenutrition, we've got the
(25:07):
supplements to help you firethese neurotransmitter systems
naturally, but you're stillcraving the thing.
Like now we go like what'sdeeper?
What's deeper?
Because they might go fromtheir buckets.
Like when you take, if you takethe mood checkup, you'll like
get like a different score foreach one of your engines and
somebody will start at like atwo, like they're supposed to be
(25:29):
at 10, if it's like all the wayfull, and they'll start at like
a two, and so we'll get themfrom, say, a two to a six.
Well, that feels amazing, youknow, it feels amazing, but it's
like, yeah, but 10 is likeheaven, so maybe let's try to
get to an eight, and so thereit's like when they're feeling
(25:51):
like at that six, they'reprobably where it's more of a
habit now instead of a I have tohave this.
It's like wait, I couldactually say no right now, but
I'm just going in the fridge,because I always went in the
fridge at eight o'clock at night, so I could probably just stop
(26:27):
going in the fridge, you know.
But it's still like just on theedge of it's like that next
level where things start to get,I think, more into the
differentmitter systems arefiring so much better than they
were when they were at theirlowest.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, that's great.
So, supplements, nutrition,exercise what are your pillars?
Do you have certain things thatyou suggest?
Speaker 2 (26:53):
The protein is number one.
So everybody who comes into myprogram knows that I'm going to
ask them every time we talkwhen's the last time you ate?
Before we even talk, anytime,they send me a message and
something's going off.
They're going to tell me and Iate one hour ago and this is
what happened.
So it's very much aroundgetting the protein in your body
(27:15):
to balance the blood sugar.
And then it's the supplements.
We use amino acids to make surethat we are supporting the
right engines that need the mostsupport to get them to be able
to eat right, Right, Like a lotof people come in and they're
like Lindsay, I can't eatprotein every three to four
(27:35):
hours.
I don't even know what to eatand I don't have time to figure
out how to make it easy, and soit's like, okay, well then we're
just going to actually get yourneurotransmitter system firing
so that you can learn how torelax and tolerate stress and
have the energy to do this, andthen we'll go back and we'll fix
the food part of your lifestyle.
But and we'll fix the food partof your lifestyle but first we
got to get you out of thisoverwhelmed state and we're just
(27:57):
going to do that with somesupplements as a quick crutch
and then go back to the food.
I also use labs in my programthat get really specific about
which foods are really affectingyour metabolism.
So when the foods are affectingour metabolism they're not
getting digested well and thenthat leads to all the autoimmune
(28:20):
stuff.
So between the supplements andthe really personalized food
plan based on the not really afood plan, it's like
substitutions of.
You know, eat this type ofapple instead of that type of
apple, because this type ofapple, because this one
metabolizes in your body waybetter than that one, and stop.
So, yeah, just stop stressingyour body out with the things
(28:42):
that you're eating and supportyour stress tolerance by taking
these different amino acidsupplements for whatever engine
needs the most support in yourbrain engine needs the most
support in your brain.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, that's great.
That makes so much sense totackle that first and then, you
know, address everything else ifthat's the main cause.
So one of the things that I geta lot with women who come to me
is that they just feel, youknow, they feel so alone, they
feel like there's somethingwrong with them.
They've been just beatingthemselves up constantly because
(29:21):
I have no willpower, I'm nevergoing to get this, you know,
like all those mean things thatwe like to think about ourselves
, and so I'm always all aboutlike, let's look at this, let's
examine this from a place ofbeing like a scientist and not
being judgmental, but what ifthey just still feel broken?
(29:42):
Like what do you have to say towomen like that?
That?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
God designed you on purpose and that your brain and
your body is meant to feel good.
And if you don't feel good yet,it's just that you haven't quite
figured out what your body istrying to say and what it really
wants.
And so my hope is that, bylistening to this and following
(30:20):
Christy and myself, like justthe information that we've
shared gives you the hope thatyou need to keep pressing on,
because, as long as you're here,god doesn't want you to give up
, and your life, your purpose,really depends on you being able
to live with energy andhappiness and be able to relax
and be able to just soak up allthose lovable moments in your
(30:44):
life, and he wants that for you.
He wants that for you no matterwhat, because he designed you
that way.
I know he did, because you'rehuman and you're woman and
you're listening to this, soyou're meant to feel good.
And, yeah, it's only a matterof trust that he really did
create you that way, to believethat he created you that way and
(31:07):
that there is a way throughthis, there's people to help.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Oh, that was beautifully said, Lindsay.
Thank you so much for that.
So I know that everybody isgoing to want to know where they
can find you, where they canlearn more about you, and
definitely about your moodtracker that I mentioned at the
beginning.
Is it the Master, your Moodprogram?
But you also have a moodtracker.
(31:34):
Anyway, I'm going to stoptalking.
You just tell them all thethings.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Oh, buddy, yeah, so my program is called Master your
Mood, but the easiest way tojust kind of get a gauge on how
these engines are operating inyour body is to take the mood
checkup.
You can find that atmoodcheckuprebuildyourbrainnet
and that will take you through aseries of questions that asks
(32:03):
you about different symptomswith all these different engines
and you'll be able to see whichengines are really struggling
the most and hopefully reallystart to connect some dots on
how you really are designed tofeel great and it's just this
engine that needs a little extrasupport right now.
So once you fill that out,you'll get a customized like
it's a graph with all thedifferent levels of how all your
(32:25):
different buckets are fullright now and any next steps to
take as far as supporting all ofthose engines will be included
in the mood checkup results thatyou'll get in your email after
you fill it out will be includedin the mood checkup results
that you'll get in your emailafter you fill it out.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Perfect, I will have links in the show notes.
And yeah, I just thank you somuch, lindsay, for being here.
I've learned a lot, and I'msure that my listeners have too,
so I appreciate you and I lookforward to talking to you again
soon.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Thanks, so much for having me, Christy.
I really appreciate it and Iwish the best for all of your
viewers and yourself.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Well, that does it for this episode of the Catholic
Sobriety Podcast.
I hope you enjoyed this episodeand I would invite you to share
it with a friend, who mightalso get value from it as well.
And make sure you subscribe soyou don't miss a thing.
I am the Catholic Sobrietycoach, and if you would like to
(33:18):
learn how to work with me orlearn more about the coaching
that I offer, visit my website,the catholic sobriety coachcom.
Follow me on Instagram at theCatholic sobriety coach.
At the Catholic Sobriety Coach.
I look forward to speaking toyou next time, and remember I am
(33:39):
here for you, I am praying foryou.
You are not alone, thank you.
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