#1952 - Fluids, Filters, and Funny Noises

In the latest episode of the CNC Auto Show, hosts Aaron Clements and Jamie Bridges take listeners on a comprehensive journey through the world of car maintenance. Broadcasting from their fully functioning automotive repair shop in downtown Augusta, they share invaluable insights and practical tips to help you keep your vehicle running smoothly. The episode kicks off with a heartfelt appreciation for the linemen and emergency responders who have been working tirelessly to restore normalcy in their community. Aaron and Jamie B commend their efforts, setting a positive tone for the discussion that follows. As the conversation shifts to car maintenance, the hosts delve into the importance of fluids in your vehicle. They emphasize that without proper fluids, a car simply cannot function. Engine oil, one of the most critical fluids, is highlighted for its role in lubricating, cooling, and cleaning the engine. Aaron and Jamie B explain that while many people know the basics of engine oil, there are nuances that can make a significant difference in your car's longevity. The hosts also tackle the topic of coolant systems, explaining how coolant not only prevents freezing but also increases the boiling point of your engine's fluids. They stress the importance of regular coolant exchanges to avoid costly repairs down the line. Transmission fluid, often overlooked, is another key focus. Jamie B points out that transmission fluid is crucial for transmitting power from the engine to the wheels and that regular fluid exchanges can prevent major issues. Throughout the episode, Aaron and Jamie B sprinkle in tips about oil change intervals, the importance of using the right viscosity, and the benefits of keeping detailed maintenance records. They also touch on the reliability of turbocharged engines and the significance of diminished value in insurance claims. Whether you're a seasoned car enthusiast or a casual driver, this episode is packed with expert advice that can save you time and money. Tune in to the CNC Auto Show and equip yourself with the knowledge to keep your vehicle in top condition.

Episode Transcript

>> Aaron Clements (00:04):
And we do welcome you to the CNC auto show. I'm Aaron
Clements here with wonderful co host
Jamie Bridges. Jamie, are we ready for a
new show?

>> Jamie B (00:13):
We're ready.

>> Aaron Clements (00:14):
Yeah. Let's crank this bad boy up. How about it?

>> Jamie B (00:16):
Let's go.

>> Aaron Clements (00:17):
Yeah, we're gonna do it. We got some great tips today, some things
about cars. We'll be taking calls today
also.

>> Jamie B (00:23):
Yes, yes.

>> Aaron Clements (00:24):
We love those phone calls. That's one of the favorite parts of the show.
So you give us a call, and that number is 802
249-0090
and we're doing a studio show again today.

>> Jamie B (00:35):
We are. It's nice and warm in here.

>> Aaron Clements (00:37):
Yeah. Yep. that is true. it won't
be long, though. We got some road trips planned.

>> Jamie B (00:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (00:44):
So we'll be playing the, song on the road
again very soon. we'll be out there.
I think we got some car shows coming up. We got some
other events coming up that we'll be
having some shows at, so we'll be having a good time there.
But I think you're right. It might be starting to get a little bit
cool when we're going through that.

>> Jamie B (01:02):
Yeah. But, you know, I always like those, the Christmas toy drives
and the things of that nature. Holidays always like those,
so, yeah, it's worth it.

>> Aaron Clements (01:10):
It is. It is. It is worth it. but I
know that most of the time, you hang out inside the trailer with the
heater. As we're doing that, a lot of.

>> Jamie B (01:17):
Times during all the breaks, you're telling all my secrets.

>> Aaron Clements (01:20):
Yeah. Boom, you're gone. Okay, we're transmitting out of
a fully functioning automotive repair shop here in
downtown Augusta. We got about 35 bays down here,
and, a lot of fantastic technicians. Been a real
busy week. And, Jamie is in the truck
industry, part side of it, and she said they've been
busy. They had a lot of, linemen, coming in
these larger trucks, bucket trucks. I imagine you've seen a

(01:43):
fair amount of those.

>> Jamie B (01:43):
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of bucket trucks. And these. And
these guys are good sports. They've been running wide
open for sleep.

>> Aaron Clements (01:51):
Yeah. I can't say enough about how good they've been.

>> Jamie B (01:54):
They. They have been fabulous. And I talked to, one of the guys
that runs a shop at one of our local electric co
ops, and just the amount of
the logistics of what they've done in
the last week and a half, two weeks here, you know,
from bringing in all these outside people to
coordinating all the outside people to putting them in the right
areas and just knocking this stuff out and getting us back to normal,

(02:16):
it is really impressive. So they
are, I can't say thanks enough for all the effort
and work that they put in down here.

>> Aaron Clements (02:24):
They really stepped up to the plate.

>> Jamie B (02:25):
They did.

>> Aaron Clements (02:26):
They sure did. And got it done. So we want to say
thank you to all of you linemen and. And
so many others. There's a lot of other industries
that stepped up and doing so many tree cutters have
done just unbelievably, good to
clear that much in such a short period of time.
It just. Just so many to say thank you to.

(02:46):
And it's, the emergency responders and all of
the others, we thank you.

>> Jamie B (02:51):
Yes.

>> Aaron Clements (02:52):
And, and things are starting to get back to normal here. We're getting
everything going.
So I thought it might be a real good time to
start discussing fluids on cars.
Yeah. one of the most important
items on a car, it's what adds to the
longevity of a car. And, of course, you take away
the fluids, and the car just is not going to function.

(03:12):
Things, are going to go. So
I think it's important to know a lot about the fluids,
because there are certain things that you may pick
up during this show that may. You may not have done.
I know that most people know the a, large amount
about the car, but you never know. You might pick up a good
tip, and also you may have a
question. So now's the time.

>> Jamie B (03:34):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (03:35):
we'll do that. I, do want to mention, it.
Well, I tell you, I'm gonna throw a tech tip quiz out first,
before we, go to this first, fluid. And,
of course, the winner will be bestowed with the, tech
tip quiz. Honorary title. It's, kind of a
big deal, really, is, and
all the. A few prizes that go along with it.
Okay, this tech tip quiz is true. This is

(03:57):
a true tech tip quiz.
the names have not been changed. And
again, very true. and it's about
me. I
accidentally drain the
fluid on Raymond's Nissan
Maxima some years ago. It made me
sick as a dog. Now, what fluid did

(04:19):
I change? And how can accidentally
draining a fluid make me
sick? And, I mean, I was sick,
very sick. So if you know the answer to today's tech tip
quiz, you can give us a call in that number. 802
249090. You
give us a call. And on, the thing that
I want to mention before we start talking about fluids

(04:42):
is that the fluid
recommendations vary a lot from car to car.

>> Jamie B (04:47):
Yes, they do.

>> Aaron Clements (04:47):
And then you add to that the different year
make, model, engine
sizes, different driving
conditions, different driving habits.
So there's no way that the two of us can sit here and
say, this is when a
certain item needs to be done. Yeah, we
can only give you some guidelines. Take

(05:09):
those guidelines and add to them, your owner's
manual. Look in your owner's manual and talk to your service
advisor and make a decision on when
you're going to change certain things. So, as
we talk about different fluids, I want you to remember
that just, general
generic items. But I
promise these telephone calls will

(05:32):
be getting. Well,
that one is not set up yet.
Okay. But we're going to talk about engine
oil. I think that that's one of the
first items that it's good to recommend.
and, and it's well known that engine oil
is one of the more important, fluids that you'll
be working with, to add to the

(05:55):
longevity of your vehicle. It's the one everybody
talks about. So we, will
talk first about the, what it
does. And one of the things that it does is
everybody knows it lubricates the fast
moving parts inside your engine. If you were to take
the oil out, even for a few seconds,

(06:15):
your engine would be toast because you'd have all these bare
metal items grinding, up
together and they would build up heat and boom and be gone.
Something a lot of people don't think about, though. On, on engine
oil, is it cools?

>> Jamie B (06:28):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (06:29):
I mean, that's why the oil pan is usually made
thin or usually has little ridges in
it, so that that oil can go up to
the top with all of these fast moving parts,
camshafts and timing chains and all of
this, and pick up that heat. And then you have
the combustion in the engine and pick up
that heat and then go back down and

(06:52):
then be cooled off because
the surrounding areas around there.
So that's why a lot of times when people say, well, I'm on
the ad, Mark, I'm okay. Well, you're on the ad,
Mark, you're okay. But you don't have as much
oil to absorb that heat to get it
out. So cooling is a very important part of

(07:12):
it. And another part not many people think about
is it actually cleans.

>> Jamie B (07:16):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (07:17):
All of these combustion and things that create
sludge inside an engine, it is
held into the engine oil
until you change it. That's if you change it. if you
don't change it. It stays there.

>> Jamie B (07:30):
Yeah, well, that's why it goes from when you pour it out of a bottle,
it's kind of a honey color, and then when you drain it out, it's.
It's black. Exactly.
Where that. That's what happens as it's
trapped all of this.

>> Aaron Clements (07:43):
The containers holding blow by gases
that come from combustion. And
that's one of the reasons that you don't have to
change the transmission fluid, is often you don't have
combustion inside the transmission.

>> Jamie B (07:55):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (07:56):
So with the oil, you do well.

>> Jamie B (07:57):
So that was one of the biggest questions that I would
get when I was at the auto parts store, was they'd bring me two
bottles of oil, brand a and brand b. And, hey, what's the
difference between, you know, name brand oil
and, you know, bottom of the barrel
oil? The cheapest stuff that we had, you know, $1.99 a
quart. And it's. The detergents and the
additives that are in the oil make a huge

(08:20):
difference in the way that the oil functions
inside of your engine. And then the other thing with that, and you have to
watch out for, let's say, cost
effective oils or the less
expensive oils, is a lot of times
they'll be refurbished oil, too. So you have
to be really, really careful, unless you

(08:40):
just don't care about refurbished oil. But most people
want. Yeah, you know, brand, new oil instead
of cleaned. And detergent sanity.

>> Aaron Clements (08:48):
Exactly.
And we are ready to go to the phones. We are going to go
straight to. I have
Burton and Saluda. Burton, welcome to the
CNC auto show. And what can we help you with?

>> Carol Proctor (09:01):
Yes, good morning. Enjoying the show?

>> Aaron Clements (09:03):
Well, thank you. We enjoy you being here with us.

>> Carol Proctor (09:08):
Yes. Something strange has happened in
the mornings. I've been warming my van
up, but when I get in, it's
cold. but now when I get going down
the road, it. It. So I was
asking what might be wrong with
the.

>> Jamie B (09:26):
And then when do you.
so you're driving along and it gets warm. Warm again. And then as
soon as you stop at a red light or a stop sign, it goes back to
cold.

>> Carol Proctor (09:35):
Yes.

>> Jamie B (09:36):
It sounds like your coolant levels low.

>> Aaron Clements (09:38):
Yep. And I agree, could be coolant level.
Of course, another thing that could be going on is your
thermostat could be acting up, too. And
it's usually one of those two things. Just like, just
like Jamie said, when. When you have a, When your
vehicle is either not warming up like it should, or it warms up
a little. Bit, then goes back down or even

(09:58):
fluctuates a little bit. Most of the time, we
find either low coolant, and of course, we always look
at that first, or the thermostat
itself can be acting up. And
many times, when the thermostat acts up, it can even set a
code. Matter of fact, I got an email on that, earlier
this week that had to do with a, vehicle

(10:19):
not cooling like it should. And, and that's what
I talked to that person about,
is that there's other tests that you can run
as far as, as far as
what's going on, but in short, wait, till the engine cools
off. Take your radiator cap off, look inside there. So if it
looks like the coolant is low,
on that one, though, I believe you have to just look in the coolant jug

(10:42):
just to sift that jug. is low. Is.
If it is low, add a little
coolant, warm the engine up, add a little bit
more until you're at the full line. You don't want to overfill it, but
you want it to go up to the max mark on
there. And then look at your temperature gauge. If your temperature
gauge starts moving up toward the two, hundred,

(11:02):
range 210, 220, then that's good.
But if it takes a long, long period of time for your temperature
gauge to start moving up, and especially if it
moves up and you start going down the road and it goes back down
some or fluctuates around a little bit, high
probability you need a thermostat. And if you
do, let's say for those that are doing it theirself, I'm not
sure if. If you are or not. but if you are doing

(11:25):
it yourself, that's a great time to change to coolant. So on the
thermostat, I would put a motor rad thermostat in there.
Those are the best. They make them oe for a lot of
vehicles. And then once you have the new
thermostat in and you, that's great. Time
to go and drain the old coolant out, put new coolant back
in, and of course, coolant. Everybody knows I love the peak antifreeze

(11:45):
plus coolant. antifreeze, Because it's
just, it's the kind we use and it does really well.
So, great shot. Time to change the coolant.
And then what everybody needs to
remember, please, please, please. Especially those that are
used to changing their own coolant. And just draining it out
and then pouring some back in. A vehicle has to be

(12:05):
bled out. Now because of the engine designs, you can
have, air pockets inside the cooling
system. So bleed, bleed that system out according to
what the manual tells you to do. on bleeding it,
high probability that's going to take care of your problem.

>> Carol Proctor (12:22):
Thank you so much.

>> Aaron Clements (12:23):
Well, great call. Thank you very much for the call
and you have a fantastic day.
Okay. The number to call 802
249090.
And we were talking about engine oil and one of the things that
we want to mention, having to do
with engine oil, we

(12:44):
talked about what it does, but we want to
discuss how often should you change to
engine oil? And that's a little bit tricky because
it varies, from vehicle, to
vehicle in some cases. Some euro cars, we
won't discuss those right now because those
are a little bit of a different animal

(13:05):
when some are recommended. so
we'll go mostly into your average
vehicles. the
Honda's, Toyota's, Ford,
chevrolets and a large number
of european cars. We normally
recommend 5000 miles. I know some people still
say, well, I do mine at 3000 miles.

(13:27):
And in some cases, if you're using a semi
synthetic oil and you're under certain
driving conditions, 3000 is not a bad idea. But
as a general rule, most people go 5000 miles
now and most vehicles use a full synthetic
oil. And as we're discussing oil, we want to
make sure that, people know to use the proper viscosity because

(13:47):
that is an old myth that thicker oil
is good.

>> Jamie B (13:51):
Yeah, no, not, not. Maybe back in the day when
your, your internal engine clearances were
larger you could get away with that. But now everything
is so there's, it's just so snug in
there together. There's really not room
for you to put a heavier weight oil. It's,
it's like, you know, you, you store your

(14:12):
pancake syrup in the, in the refrigerator and you
just take it straight out of the fridge and you go to pour it on your pancakes and it's so
slow to come out of the bottle. That's about what thick
oil does in your engine. It's not going to move as quickly.

>> Aaron Clements (14:23):
Right. And it takes longer, when you first start up, it
takes longer for that oil to get up to the top of the
engine to start lubricating those parts. So that
causes wear until it
happens. So using the proper viscosity. and
like you mentioned, the tolerances are just so close on
the later model engines and there's areas

(14:44):
that oil has to get too fast. For instance, the timing
chain area. So if. If
the book calls for five w
20, definitely recommend five w 20. If it
calls for 00:10 which
is pretty much like water. Yeah, yeah, use
it. That's what it. That's what the engine calls for.

(15:04):
And also the oil. thicker
oil can cause bad gas mileage because if you try
to spin something around and
thicker oil, it. It takes more
energy because it's not as free moving.
Ready to go to next call?

>> Jamie B (15:20):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (15:20):
All right, let's go. let's see here. We have Mike on
the line. Let's go over to
Mike. And
Mike, welcome, to the CNC auto show. And what can
we help you with today?

>> Ron (15:35):
Aaron, can you hear me?

>> Aaron Clements (15:36):
Okay?

>> Ron (15:36):
I'm on my,

>> Aaron Clements (15:40):
Absolutely. I believe we got you.

>> Ron (15:45):
All right. I've got a 2013.

>> Aaron Clements (15:49):
And I've got no audio on my
work.
Okay, you are cutting in and
out there, Mike. but you're saying you got
a 2013 truck
and the audio is not working,
is that right?

(16:11):
That's correct.

>> Gary (16:12):
It's just the audio.

>> Ron (16:13):
Everything.

>> Aaron Clements (16:16):
Okay.

>> Jamie B (16:17):
There is a tech service bulletin
for that truck. may
exhibit intermittent concern of no audio
output after starting the vehicle. May
occur during cold, ambient temperatures or when
abnormally low battery voltage levels are present.
So I would probably start
out with, how old is your battery? When's the last

(16:39):
time it was changed or serviced? If it's
weak, it sounds like that could be causing your problem.
the other thing that the TSP states is that
if, your battery is good, it appears that there's an update
for your radio, like a software
update that you could download.

>> Aaron Clements (16:56):
Would that be something the dealer would have to do?

>> Jamie B (16:59):
says that now, I'm not.
Let's see,
reprogram the audio control module, latest
calibration. Make sure you're
connected to the Internet when programming the
module. Maybe
calibration files may be obtained at motorcraft service.com
dot. Yeah, so it sounds like, they

(17:22):
may need a laptop to.

>> Aaron Clements (17:24):
Yeah, and we could program those. Now, of course,
the dealer do a great job. they do fantastic.
But, we have the same piece of equipment, and a lot of
other shops do, so high probability if you
have a shop that you go to on a regular basis,
high probability they will have the
equipment. but, some don't.
it's a. It would be a factory piece of

(17:46):
equipment that you would need to reprogram the vehicle
ids, actually, and that's what you would
need. And most shops can do it so you wouldn't
necessarily have to go back to a dealer.

>> Carol Proctor (18:00):
Aaron, the, phone. The call has got a lot of reverberation.

>> Aaron Clements (18:05):
I'm just. If y'all don't have to hear me, I can barely make out
what you're.

>> Carol Proctor (18:08):
Saying, I guess because I'm talking on the phone and the radio at the same time.

>> Aaron Clements (18:11):
Okay.

>> Jamie B (18:12):
Yeah, that's a. Ah, I would, check, check your
battery. And then if the battery is, as new and
strong, then I would take it to you or have to take
it to, you can take it to the dealer, or you can take it to a
shop, that has the capability to just
run the update, download the update, and put it in,
into the truck.

>> Carol Proctor (18:32):
Okay, well, thank you.

>> Aaron Clements (18:36):
Oh, everything's fine, and we appreciate the call very
much. Okay. The number to call is 802
249090.
we'll lay the tech tip quiz back out on the table. And
this is a true tech tip quiz. I
accidentally drained the fluid
on Raymond's Nissan Maxima,
and it made me sick.

(18:57):
So what fluid did I drain
accidentally, and why did it make me sick? If
somebody knows the answer to that, they can give us a call. 802
249090. But also
if someone has a question about the car, the truck, their
suv, they can also give us a call,
and we will be very happy to answer those questions. And
you answered that one very well, Jeremy.

(19:19):
Sounded real good.
All right. We were talking about
engine oil. Want to say just a few, final
things about engine oil. We discussed when it needs,
when we recommend, changing the oil. And that
varies from car to car. But many cars is
5000 miles. The main thing is to
have a schedule and stick with it.

>> Jamie B (19:41):
Yes.

>> Aaron Clements (19:41):
If you're saying 3000 miles, do it in 3000
miles. Say five. Do it in five.
And if you do the math, if you're trying to
squeeze an extra thousand or 2000, and let's
say you say, well, I'm gonna go for six, I'm gonna go
for seven. If you do the math, it's pennies
over the course of a year. And having that little bit

(20:02):
of extra protection for your vehicle
can mean a lot, because the wear that
you get early, let's say you got 50, 60,000
miles, if you add that little bit of extra
wear there, you won't know it until you get 100 and
5200. And the ones
that I've seen over the years that get the
really high mileage out of their vehicles

(20:24):
has to do with the ones that change their oil on a
really regular basis.

>> Jamie B (20:29):
Now, the other side to that oil change
interval is, yes, there's a mileage
recommendation, but there's also a time recommendation.

>> Aaron Clements (20:37):
Excellent point.

>> Jamie B (20:38):
You have something that you store in your garage and you
only take it to car shows and you maybe put 2000 miles
in it, on it in a year. You still
need to change that oil at least yearly because
oil does break down over time.
And not only the oil, but your detergents and additives also
will break down. So even if you're not driving the
car and to the mileage recommendation,

(21:01):
still make sure that you're changing it at least once a year.

>> Aaron Clements (21:04):
Yes, moisture can build up inside the crankcase and that
moisture can cause corrosion, dilute the oil.
So you want to get that oil out of there even if it's been a
short. And, and also a vehicle that's driven very
little, it builds up more combustion
gases because the heat up cycles. As a matter of
fact, if you drive a car, let's say you got up every morning and

(21:24):
drove it for, on a three hour
drive, every single day, you
could easily go more miles doing that than
you could on a vehicle that you get up and drive a few miles to
work a few miles back. because they
is to heat up cycles and
when the engine is cold it's less efficient and that's where
you get a lot more the combustion gases going into the

(21:47):
oil. So so make sure that you
have a regular schedule. And we'll mention the last,
last item. keep good records on your oil change.
know when it don't depend on that little
indicator.

>> Jamie B (21:59):
No, no, no.

>> Aaron Clements (22:00):
Don't let that be your backup.

>> Jamie B (22:02):
Extreme, extreme backup.

>> Aaron Clements (22:04):
Yes.

>> Jamie B (22:04):
I mean I still reset it every time the oil
has changed.
But I've never had it to where it pops up. Because after
say in my work truck, I get it changed every
5000 miles. It's an f 150 and it
takes a synthetic blend oil. So every 5000 miles
I'm getting the oil changed. But if I let it
roll on, if I don't reset the oil light and

(22:26):
go another, I can go about 8000 miles before that
oil light.

>> Aaron Clements (22:30):
Exactly.

>> Jamie B (22:30):
That service, service engine soon like comes on.
So I wouldn't want to go 8000 miles
on an oil change.

>> Aaron Clements (22:37):
No.

>> Jamie B (22:38):
So no.

>> Aaron Clements (22:39):
And that's what makes the vehicle. I still, I personally
still like the little sticker in the windshield. That to me works
as good as anything else.

>> Jamie B (22:46):
That's what I rely on. Sticker in the corner.

>> Aaron Clements (22:49):
So, so make sure you have a good watch that
sticker when it's due for an oil change, take it in, don't
wait on that, reminder light. I like the
reminder lights because they're a good backup system for
people. if you forgot or your sticker
was misprinted or something, sticker fell
off, you at least got
something as a last resort to come

(23:12):
on and say boom, I need an oil change.
So make sure you do that final thing.
Keep records of your oil change, and
just know that it's due to be
changed, at a certain time and when it
was changed because that will add value to
your vehicle.

>> Jamie B (23:29):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (23:30):
if you go to a regular shop, the same shop all the
time, and they're more than likely
have a computer system that keeps track of your oil changes
and you can walk in. If you decide to sell your car or
you're wondering about something, they could push one button and give
you a whole history, of when it was done
each time. And not to mention most shops now

(23:50):
report to Carfax so you, other people can
look on Carfax. And if I'm buying a
car and it shows that an oil change was
done like every ten or 12,000
miles, I probably won't buy it. If it's got
over 20 or 30,000 miles I probably won't buy it.
But if it shows that that person had their oil changed every,
every five, 6000 miles, that's a

(24:12):
plus to me when I'm purchasing one.

>> Jamie B (24:14):
Well it was maintained.

>> Aaron Clements (24:15):
Yeah. You know that, that, you know that even though
it's got a fair amount of miles, it's probably still going to run
a lot more.

>> Jamie B (24:22):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (24:22):
because it was serviced correctly. So keep those records
and try to make sure that the vehicle is being reported to
Carfax. So you'll have that. But if you don't have
your file with all your records, if you changed all
yourself, have a file with it exactly when it
was done and all the receipts of where you
bought the oil, and it will pay
off in the long run.

>> Jamie B (24:43):
Oh yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (24:44):
And one of the things that we've been talking a lot about
has to do with different fluids on the vehicle
because of course there is no question that's what
makes a vehicle last longer. If you keep your
fluids, exchanged like you
should, that will make a big difference in the
life of your vehicle. And the

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resale value because you have the records and all that.
Let's talk a little bit about coolanthouse.

>> Jamie B (25:09):
Yeah, no, it's not for just
not freezing. It does a lot more than not
freeze.

>> Aaron Clements (25:15):
And that's what everybody thinks about. They say antifreeze,
and they, in their mind, if
you were to pull into a shop and they were to check
it, and they say, yeah, you're in a freeze, it'll get
down to -20 degrees. And you say, well,
it's not getting that cold. I'm good. Boom, you're out the
door, you're going, well, you do that for

(25:36):
a few years, and then the next thing you see
a little coolant leak. You check the water pumps leaking.
you have that repaired. Then a little while later, you have,
a a ah, radiator is leaking. So you have
that replaced. Then you have a heater cord and you
have gaskets. One thing right after another.

>> Jamie B (25:53):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (25:53):
Whereas if you get your coolant replaced
when it should be replaced, your getting
all the metal particles out of the
inside of the coolant and getting
that old coolant out of there, because all of
its rust inhibitors and,
corrosion inhibitors that were put into the
antifreeze new are gone. They're

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expired. So putting new
antifreeze in there, you get new corrosion, anti
corrosion inhibitors put in there.
you make it to where it
decreases the freezing point a
huge amount. in the -20
-30 is what I normally like to see.
but another thing people don't think about, it

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increases the boiling point.

>> Jamie B (26:38):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (26:39):
it's. Sometimes people will look at their, gauge and they'll
see where the temperature on the vehicle is running,
220 degrees. And if you think about it a
minute, you say, wow, this engine running, 220
degrees. Wind it boiling. Well,
two or three reasons. number one is it's
under pressure. So under 13 somewhere, ah, between
13 and 16 psi, and

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that increases the boiling point. And then you
have your, and your coolant,
or it's antifreeze, like some people call
it. and it, and it's a.
It increases the boiling point. So those two things
together keeps your engine from boiling.
And of course, like we mentioned, it keeps out the
corrosion. Now, of course, I'm. Gives me a chance to mention

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I love peak antifreeze, what we use. I, love a lot of peak
products. But, but if
it's due, if it's been, if it's a brand
new car, you might be able to go a little longer than this. But if
it's an average vehicle, every couple of
years, I would recommend doing a coolant
exchange. And that would include
removing all of the old coolant out of

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the system. And we have a piece of equipment that does that. And
most shops do. When I say things like that, I'm
not saying, hey, you would have to bring your car
here to get a particular service because a lot of great
shops around. The main thing I'm after is to make
sure you have it done. Yeah, love to see you do it here,
but, but the main thing is to have it done.

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Pull all of that old fluid out of there, that
old cooling out of there. And, whereas
many years ago you used to have to loosen a hose and let it
drain into a bucket and then you put it back. Now there's a
piece of equipment, it just sucks it all out.
And then it puts a vacuum on the system. And what's
good about that is that vacuum, once you
have a vacuum on there and you turn the knob to let the

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new, coolant go in.

>> Jamie B (28:32):
Whoosh, whoosh.

>> Aaron Clements (28:34):
It goes in there and there's no air pockets in
the system. And that's what's really good about it.
Because an air pocket, you got to figure if you got one
little air pocket floating around, in a head
somewhere, cylinder head, or the back of the engine somewhere,
if that one area does not have
coolant there, it's a hot spot. Exactly.

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It will create a terrible hotspot and you're going to cause a
problem right in that spot. So, for
those that do their own coolant exchanges, which is
fine if you do it correctly, make sure that
you look in the book and find out if there is a bleed
procedure for that vehicle. And if it is, make sure
that you do that bleed procedure. Because if you don't,

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you could have a toasted engine.

>> Jamie B (29:16):
Yeah, well, you know, back in the day, you'd fill it back up and you'd
crank it up and you take, have the radiator cap off and you'd
watch it bubble air out and then, you know, but it's
not like that anymore because what you're looking for is
the highest point in the system. And that's
not a radiator cap in most cases
nowadays it's, it's a, jug or there's a little
bleeder screw somewhere, somewhere in there.

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So do your research before you, before you
start to make sure that you don't have to have it towed to a shop.

>> Aaron Clements (29:45):
Yeah, this part's kind of sad. But a, person that loved to
work on their vehicles themselves and, they didn't have to.
They just kind of enjoyed it.

>> Jamie B (29:53):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (29:53):
but that, this was last year actually. But they had a Land
Rover and they decided to do their own
coolant exchange and they did not know about the bleed
procedure. Toasted the engine and those
engines are 910 thousand dollars. very, very sad
to see that. and that's the reason I mentioned things
like this. Cause I don't want that to happen to others. I want people's

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cars to last them a long, long, long time.

>> Jamie B (30:15):
Oh, yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (30:16):
And they will they cost more money. but if
you maintain them, they will last a long
time. If you don't maintain them, they don't last as long as even older
cars because they don't stand the abuse like they
used to. Used to be radiators, were real large,
real heavy. and
they would you could run an engine hot and

(30:37):
stop and pour a little water in there and keep going, not worry about
it. Now, if you run an engine hot you
have done damage. It just. The question is
how much damage and where. Yeah, you and if
you run the engine low in oil or out of all or
don't do an oil change you caused where you
caused a problem, it's only a question of how much.

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When will it show up that it was there.
So maintaining your vehicle is, is very important.
And doing it with the proper fluids
are major importance. right there.
And now of course with
antifreeze now it's different than it used to be. You have
several different types of antifreeze and

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usually different colors.
You got the red, the blue, the orange.
yeah. and almost a clear color
that sub forged use. And what's good is peak
antifreeze. They make all of those, but also they've
got a coolant that's more of a
universal, that meets all of those standards
on practically every car that there

(31:39):
is. So you can use that type
antifreeze also. And of course, just like
in the past, antifreeze works best when it's mixed with
a 50 50 mixture of.

>> Jamie B (31:51):
distilled or purified water, not 50 50
antifreeze or coolant. And host water like garden
hose water because your tap
water has got different minerals and
additives that are in it, you know, for
safety purposes, for, you know, drinking to keep
bacteria down or whatever, whatever. That is not necessarily what your

(32:11):
car needs though. It's okay for us, but not
for your.

>> Aaron Clements (32:15):
And peak ganna freeze also has a system that's already
premixed to where you can use it, especially if you
like to top off your vehicle.

>> Jamie B (32:22):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (32:22):
That you don't have to pour a little bit and then a little bit of
water. You could just pour the premix,
antifreeze in as a top off. last
thing about antifreeze, if you have to add some, it went
somewhere.

>> Jamie B (32:34):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (32:34):
so if you add, possibly if you add just a
little bit, you might say, well, I'm gonna keep an eye on it, but if
you continuously have to add a little bit of antifreeze, you've got a
leak somewhere. And you really need to find that leak because
it could be a hose, it could blow out at any time.
it could be a radiator, it could cause you
a problem. Could be a water pump seeking, seeping, that

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you need to know about. So keep an eye on that.
And, and I will say again, I can't stress the
importance of keeping that antifreeze nice and fresh
because water pumps that used to be a, ah,
couple of $100. There's water pumps now that are
eight, $900 up to $1500
on these things.

>> Jamie B (33:13):
Have gotten, gotten nuts.

>> Aaron Clements (33:15):
They have this bright idea of putting the water pump behind the
timing chain mechanism.

>> Jamie B (33:19):
Yeah. So you have to pull it all down. And one more, one more
thing. If you have a diesel engine, your coolant is
different from a gas engine.

>> Aaron Clements (33:27):
Oh, great point.

>> Jamie B (33:27):
So don't put, be careful what you buy. Pay attention to what
you're buying.

>> Aaron Clements (33:31):
Make sure that what, whatever
fluid is built is made for that
vehicle goes down that you're putting it in.

>> Jamie B (33:38):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (33:38):
Okay, Jamie, are we ready? We're ready, yeah, we're ready to
crank up another hour of the CNC auto show
and we are transmitting from the studio
today. we, feels kind of unusual because we've been on the
road so much. we were in studio last week,
in the studio this week. But I think next week we have
another car, show, if I'm not mistaken. It'll
be the lost in the fifties car show that'll be located,

(34:01):
in Evans, Georgia, if I'm not mistaken.
And we will also have a show
after that, which will be a Mustang club show. I think
that was around November 2, right around in that
range. And we have some other ones. So we will be back on the
road again very soon. we all, we enjoy
both. it's a lot of fun to attend,

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the different events that we have now.
During the show today, we'll be talking about
fluids. during the first hour
we did discuss a lot, having to
do with engine oil and coolant. And
we did give a disclaimer, and I'm gonna give that disclaimer
now. We
fluids and fluid intervals

(34:43):
vary a lot from vehicle to
vehicle, year, mate model, driving
habits. There's a lot of factors involved in
when to change your fluids. And of course
we recommend as far as using the proper
viscosity and the levels
need to be just right. And to do that, I
would recommend looking at your owner's

(35:05):
manual and talking to your service advisor.

>> Jamie B (35:08):
Yeah, yeah. These are
generalized, suggestions.
So always refer back to the book
or for new cars, download the book to
your phone, because they don't always come with books anymore.

>> Aaron Clements (35:21):
But the main thing you want to get it done. if you if you
drive a vehicle and you have in that vehicle
has certain fluids in there, high probability
that fluid has a change interval. Now we're going to get
some general ideas of when and things that they
do.
Now during the last hour we talked a little bit about the
engine oil, how it lubricates, cools, prevents

(35:42):
sludge, in most cases on most
vehicles. I recommend it every 5000 miles on
the average vehicle. Again, you want to discuss that with
your owner? Well, go to your owner's manual and discuss it with
your service advisor. But that's a general rule
on there. but the main thing is have a
schedule and stick to that schedule.

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Engine coolant, we discussed that it decreases the
freezing level and increases the boiling point.
it has anti corrosion
inhibitors, in there. It lubricates the
water pump. Just makes the cooling system last a long
time. if you don't get all those little
metal particles out of there, the
coolant system in effect turns into a battery. And of

(36:24):
course a battery will corrode and you'll
ruin things like radiators, heater cores, gaskets.
Just a lot of different things. Cost you a lot of money.

>> Jamie B (36:33):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (36:33):
so one of the next thing we'll talk, discuss a little bit, is
transmission fluid.

>> Jamie B (36:37):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (36:38):
transmission fluid is a
very important fluid in the vehicle. It plays a part
in transmission, transmitting all of that
power from the engine back to the
wheels.

>> Jamie B (36:50):
Yeah, yeah. It's a
make everything functions in there off of different pressures.
So if your, your fluid gets
cruddy, then things don't move
the way that they're supposed to. The little bbs don't
go into the.

>> Aaron Clements (37:05):
Passageways and, and it don't lubricate because
of course, transmission fluid. One of its jobs is lubricate. Hey,
we're going to come back to the transmission fluid because we're going to go to the next
caller.
let's go over to
Ronnie. Ronnie, welcome to the CNC auto
show. And what can we help you with?

>> Gary (37:25):
yes, Aaron, you're,
you're talking about the,
oil changes. M. I have
a maverick hybrid
and I ran across a YouTube
video last night about
changing oil in a hybrid

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because the, a lot of
times the engine is not running
long enough to
evaporate. The moisture that builds up.
I'm getting a bad feedback.

>> Jamie B (38:02):
oh, we can, we can hear.

>> Gary (38:03):
Maybe you would like to elaborate on
that.

>> Aaron Clements (38:07):
yes, that goes hand in hand with one of
the things that Jamie was talking about a little bit earlier.
for vehicles, let's say a classic car
or a vehicle that's just not driven that much.
Maybe it's a weekend warrior, to where you just drive
a short period of time. Well, when you do
that, we still recommend changing the oil at

(38:27):
times because moisture can build up
inside that engine even though it's not being
driven very much. And of course, that gets into the
oil, it can loot, can cause
corrosion inside the engine, cause
sludge, and also it can help it to,
dilute, make it where it don't lubricate the parts as well
as they should. So, yes, even if, even an

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engine such as a hybrid is not
run, it would be, considered like a low
mileage engine, because it's not running
very much. Even though the vehicle may have more miles
on it, the engine may not have that
many hours on it. And because of
that, there's a oil change interval.

>> Gary (39:10):
I have the 23 maverick. I
bought new and I only put
4100 miles on it
the first year, but I still changed the
oil.

>> Aaron Clements (39:23):
Yes. Yes, you're exactly
right. And I would definitely do that. I would change it at least
every year, regardless, of
the number of miles that you put on it, because that way you'll go.
Now what? Here's what I normally tell our
customers that don't drive very much. Let's say
that we change the oil and you can go 5000

(39:43):
miles. Well, that that customer
calls and they say, hey, I think I need a new oil
change, because it's been over three
months or been over five months. I say if you hadn't
been that many miles, I don't really recommend having to change
the oil again. I would like to look at the
car. and there's no charge to do that. We
bring it in, we look at the tires, we look at the tire pressure,

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we check the engine oil level, coolant
level, and just get. And check the lights and make
sure everything's looking good. And then I tell them to go
ahead and drive it another five or six
months until it's been one year.
Then at the one year mark, I recommend replacing it
regardless. So I'm not saying don't have the

(40:26):
car looked at during that length of time,
but, just the oil change itself. And, of course, that's what
a lot of people don't think about. The oil change is
only part of a service. the
good part about the oil change is you're also, if you, if
it's done correctly, you're also doing a good inspection
on the car, checking things like tire pressure, tires, tire

(40:46):
wear, checking, to see if other things are
due.

>> Gary (40:51):
Okay, well, thank you very much.

>> Aaron Clements (40:53):
Oh, great, great point there, Ron. And
now we, don't get upset. Cause we tease, that
guy about his maverick a lot. So you might hear that from
time to time. Okay.
All right. the number to call is 802
249090.
And we had talked a little bit about having the gentleman on
the. That owns the maverick that all of you,

(41:16):
caught up with.

>> Jamie B (41:17):
Yeah, poor guy. Yeah, we, we
do need to get his side of things, one of these days.

>> Aaron Clements (41:23):
I think. I think the controversy is that,
it's a truck shop to where large trucks
are worked on. And he's saying it's
a truck, but all of his team members
are saying that's not a real truck.

>> Jamie B (41:37):
Well, I mean, we, you know, we spend all day looking at road
tractors and, you know, medium duty
utility vehicles, you know,
and then he pulls up in this little
tiny, hybrid, maverick.
And it's just an ongoing, and
ongoing thing.

>> Aaron Clements (41:54):
Yeah.

>> Jamie B (41:55):
With the maverick, is it a truck or not? It's labeled as a
truck, but does it meet the
traditional specifications?

>> Aaron Clements (42:01):
So, in effect, they're saying he's less of a man.

>> Jamie B (42:06):
I'm sorry, Matt, because he's not driving.

>> Aaron Clements (42:09):
A, ah, real truck. Is that it?

>> Jamie B (42:11):
No, he, Matt is a great guy. He really is. He's got
an amazing sense of humor. He puts up with our foolishness,
but.

>> Aaron Clements (42:19):
Yeah, but that's what they're saying, though.

>> Jamie B (42:22):
Yeah, I guess, indirectly, in a
way. Poor, poor Matt.

>> Aaron Clements (42:26):
All right. Okay, we're gonna finish talking about transmission
fluid. okay. We talked about
it playing a good part in transmitting the power from the engine to
the wheels. how it's some of the things it does
as far as lubrication. the other thing that
it does is it holds debris.
Also, because you gotta, anytime you

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have fast moving parts, I don't care how
well it's lubricated, you're gonna have some, you're gonna have somewhere.
And of course if you have somewhere, you're gonna have some
particles. And also you're gonna build
up heat. And heat is what
kills transmission fluid.

>> Jamie B (43:03):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (43:03):
I've looked at charts before and a chart
of recommendations on when to
change the fluid. And let's say if the fluid's running
pretty cool, 100 6171 hundred 80. Stuff
like that. That vehicle that it can
go way on up there before it needs 80
9100 thousand miles before it's really

(43:24):
needs a transmission fluid exchange. But
you add just a little bit to that, you start going up
to 100 9200 and it
starts dropping quick. So
it's so changing. It's real important
with, okay, we have been talking about
transmission fluid. Last thing we'll mention before we
go to the cost is that on the

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transmission fluid, there was a time where people used to remove
the pan and they'd put a new filter up there. And then they put the
new pan there. Now, many years ago, a
Ford motor company did a study. And they found out that this
filter that everybody's been changing even after over
100,000 miles, is only about 10% restricted.

>> Jamie B (44:04):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (44:04):
so there's And not to mention that once you
pull that pan down, it is very difficult to get that
factory seal back. Don't know why, but it's
always a difficult thing to do. You
increase the risk factor because you wonder, is
the right filter on there? Did it seat
correctly? Really? There's just no need in
replacing that filter.

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Unless you suspect a problem is inside the
transmission.

>> Jamie B (44:30):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (44:31):
And if that filter is restricted, you got a whole lot more
problems than just. Yeah,
just the fluid is going to help. So
recommend, fluid exchange. machine. And we have that
piece of equipment that we that we use.
And it's And what's good about it is for
every, every single bit of old
transmission fluid that is pushed to the

(44:53):
front to go through the cooler. Before it goes through
the cooler, it goes into this machine and
it pushes a little piston up.
And inside the cylinder is the new
fluid. And that new fluid goes in and just takes the
place of the old fluid.

>> Jamie B (45:08):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (45:09):
So you're doing a complete fluid
exchange. And that's why many years ago
people used to say, well, I had, my transmission was doing good,
I had it changed and now I have a problem. You don't
get that with a total fluid exchange because the
transmission, if you only pull the pan off and pour
new fluid in, you're replacing about five quarts of
fluid and you're mixing that new fluid with the old fluid.

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When you use a exchange machine, you're
replacing all twelve quarts or more
that needs to be replaced. So you get a nice
clean job other ways like washing dishes and dirty water, you
really hadn't done anything. So it
recommend a complete fluid
exchange when you do it. Ready to go to calls?

>> Jamie B (45:49):
Yeah, let's go.

>> Aaron Clements (45:50):
Okay, let's go over here and do it. We will go over here
and talk to let's see here.
I'm not sure, I didn't see it. Welcome to the
CNC auto show. There it is. Gary, welcome
to the show.

>> Ron (46:05):
Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my call.

>> Aaron Clements (46:07):
Thank you for calling.

>> Ron (46:10):
I was listening to you all talking about the
insurance, on your vehicles.
Well, I was, I don't know if a lot of people know
this. I learned, I learned this
by experience.
My wife was involved in accident about
four years ago.
And it wasn't her fault. She was sitting still

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and of course the other person's insurance company
had to pay, you know, of course to have her car fixed
and stuff.
Her car was about, at the time was
between, about five years old
and after everything had been done
and her car was fixed,

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of course they sent me, sent us a check.
At that time. And so
I got to talking to the insurance lady at
the other company who had been
dealing with very nice lady.
And I said, listen, I said when my
wife go to get another vehicle or

(47:14):
trade this vehicle in,
it's going to have a diminished value.
The value is not going to be as much because if they do
RFox or whatever they do, it's going
to, instead of the car's value is
diminished,
more so, so
anyway, they did agree to

(47:36):
that and we agreed. And I
think at ah, the time I ended up,
I got, we got a check for an additional
$1200 for
the diminished value
on the vehicle.

>> Aaron Clements (47:51):
Mm Absolutely.

>> Ron (47:52):
you know, the car is still running good and it does fine,
but that is something,
I learned through that experience that I didn't know
before.

>> Aaron Clements (48:03):
Mm

>> Ron (48:04):
And I just wanted to put that out there yes.

>> Aaron Clements (48:07):
That is definitely a good thing to mention to people
is that if you have a vehicle that has
body repair and it's not your fault,
let's say a tree fell on it or you were in an accident,
somebody else's fault, when you start to sell that
vehicle, it will show up on a Carfax report
because it was handled through insurance and

(48:27):
you will lose value on that vehicle. So,
yes, diminished, value should be part of
the conversation that you have when you, you're having your
car repaired. And again, we, we mentioned
save notes, who you talk to and
all of the details on the whole process.
So, Gary, that's a great point, and thank

(48:47):
you very much, on bringing, that up
also.

>> Ron (48:51):
Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
M my
last question
is, I called, you know, a few weeks ago about
the, maintenance and upkeep on these new
turbo vehicles. I do not have one, but
I see they're becoming more and more
popular, more and more vehicles and,

(49:14):
And down the road, one of these days, I may have to,
have to have one of these vehicles.

>> Aaron Clements (49:21):
Yep.

>> Ron (49:22):
I won't have an option. But
my question today on this turbo
situation is the reliability.
Like, you know, we
got vehicles out there running 200,
300,000 miles.
Are these Turbos, looking at

(49:42):
them, are they, are they going to last that
long or.
Well, you know, what, what did you
look at on this, as
far as, you know, the life of one of them?

>> Aaron Clements (49:56):
Yeah, I'll mention from the car side and then I'm
sure Jamie might have some input on the truck side
also. But we, but the fleets of
vehicles that we work on and we have a lot of
our, all types of vehicles, but one that just
comes to mind is a lot of the transit vans that
we see. I'm seeing a large portion of
those, having, in the, in the

(50:18):
2200, 5300 thousand mile
range on those vehicles. And I bet we out
of, out of the whole fleets in the last year. I think
we probably replaced a couple of turbos on those
and those are for kind, of
weird circumstances that they had. But
I think it goes back to just like we were talking about

(50:39):
on, on other parts of the vehicle, changing the
oil because the turbo is spinning very fast, five,
6000 rpms or more, and
it requires good lubrication. And some turbos are
cooled by coolant.

>> Jamie B (50:52):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (50:52):
so building up a little bit of corrosion in there can cause a
problem. So I would say to answer on
my end would be if the vehicle is taken
care of. Turbos just last
an, amazing amount of time.
Much longer than I ever would have imagined. Jamie,
what do you think?

>> Jamie B (51:10):
well, on the, on the semi truck side, they are.
They do have oil lines that are hooked up. So,
you know, routine oil changes. same thing with
coolant. They have coolant passages. Coolant runs through them to help cool
them. as long as everything's,
kept up. As far as your fluid maintenance, then you're, then
you're good. I do see them go bad every once in a while.

(51:31):
It just, you know, depends on maintenance. Or maybe they
hit something and the charge air cooler got punctured and. And,
you know, but there's. There's more into it then that.

>> Aaron Clements (51:39):
Those oil lines are very small. It don't take very much
sludge to stop up that oil line. And once
that oil line is restricted, it don't take very long
at all with that, turbo spinning at the
speeds that it spins to cause a major
issue inside there, of course, keeping the air
filter replaced because you don't want any debris

(51:59):
coming through the system. but doing the
maintenance, I would have to say great. And
they're, and they're absolutely amazing. I mean, like,
right now, my. My vehicle is a
canyon, 2017 canyon. It's got that
little four cylinder diesel that they're putting in the
gym seas. And that son of a gun has an amazing
amount of power. Well, we drove it to Birmingham, remember?

>> Jamie B (52:21):
Yeah, we pulled the trailer.

>> Aaron Clements (52:22):
Pulled the trailer very well. And it's. It's just a
beautiful, I think
they're. They're amazing, in my opinion,
amount of power that they add to the vehicle and fuel
economy, that truck gets great fuel economy.
So, I don't think I would worry when it comes time to buy a turbo,
I would jump all over it.

>> Jamie B (52:40):
Yeah.

>> Ron (52:43):
Okay. Well, listen, I thank you for taking my call.

>> Aaron Clements (52:46):
Hey, how are you listening to the show? Are you listening on
the Internet or laptop
or through a station there?

>> Ron (52:54):
Listen, we have a local radio
station here,
97.3.

>> Aaron Clements (53:01):
uh-huh

>> Ron (53:02):
And you're, on every,
Saturday morning.
And I don't get to listen to you every Saturday morning,
but I thoroughly enjoy the show
and the education and the knowledge
that you put out there, guys,
doing what I call the driveway boogie.

>> Aaron Clements (53:25):
Yes.

>> Ron (53:27):
You know, the Diyers,
you, know, I appreciate. Thank you very much.

>> Aaron Clements (53:34):
Well, Gary, thank you. Thank you for the call. Thank you for the input.
Fantastic. And thank you for listening.
Okay, we're going, we were talking a little
bit about transmission fluid,
but we have an important phone call here of
something I was going to correct. But I'm hoping that
Carol, do that for me. So I'm going to bring Carroll
Proctor on. Ac proctor Peyton body. Carol,

(53:57):
welcome, to the show.

>> Carol Proctor (53:59):
Good morning, Aaron. I don't know if you know it, but you've got a
real bad echo.

>> Aaron Clements (54:04):
Now, is this on the radio side
or through the phone?

>> Carol Proctor (54:10):
Well, I'm on my phone right now, so I
don't know if it's on the radio, but it's definitely on this.

>> Aaron Clements (54:16):
Okay.

>> Carol Proctor (54:17):
Only on hold.

>> Aaron Clements (54:19):
Thank you. And we will try to correct
that and, And get that taken care of.
Appreciate you mentioning that.

>> Carol Proctor (54:27):
Well, the main reason I was calling is you talking to the caller a
minute ago about diminished value and
a little mistake. Diminished value is
only, is triggered by any
accident in Georgia. First party or third
party. But it.
A Carfax report is only

(54:47):
triggered by an
inch. a police report.

>> Jamie B (54:52):
Oh, so it's not pulled off of an insurance claim.

>> Carol Proctor (54:55):
Body shops and insurance companies do not
report to Carfax.
if you. If you take your car into it. Now, one other
little thing. If you take your car into a dealership
and they happen to
fix some collision work,
and it listed as collision, that could

(55:17):
generate a Carfax report. But
body shops and insurance companies do
not report,
stuff to Carfax.

>> Jamie B (55:28):
Well, that's good to know.

>> Aaron Clements (55:29):
And that's. That's a good point. And what. What
you're saying that I was about to throw you under the bus,
Carol? People think when they carry a
vehicle to have work.

>> Jamie B (55:43):
Carol's gonna end up with a bunch of angry phone calls.

>> Aaron Clements (55:45):
But that is. That is a great, great point, Carol, to
make sure that people know exactly how that works. So if you have
a. If you have an accident and that officer makes
out a report on that vehicle, you,
will generate a Carfax report that
was involved in an accident. And of course, they may
note know whether it was, an officer may

(56:06):
classified as major. And it really in
reality be minor because you know how
vehicle looks when it has the. The front
cover knocked off of it. It looks like it's terrible, but
in reality, it's just a matter of, replacing, the front.

>> Carol Proctor (56:20):
Well, true story. To give you an example.
My father in law bought my mother in law a new
car one time before he got cancer.
And, before he died, he went to trade it.
But that other car he had bought, the day he had bought it,
he went down to McDonald's to get a cup of coffee after
negotiating all day. And a guy opened the car

(56:42):
door up against it. He got so mad, he called the police. That
had an accident reporter on it.
For a dollar 200 paintless door dent.
Oh, and when he went to trade it, four
years later, there was a
carfax report on it. And it cost him $3,000
at trade. But I know
another customer got drunk on his hunting

(57:04):
land, wrapped
his truck around a pine tree, did about
$15,000 worth of damage.
There was no police report.
No carfax ever.

>> Aaron Clements (57:19):
Wow. so that's really important to
know how that works. And, Carol, that's very
helpful. That's. That's the reason that we. We
have you on retainer as our. As our collision
repair person.

>> Carol Proctor (57:32):
And with all the damage, the vehicles from these
trees and stuff, you know, everybody needs to ask their
insurance adjuster about it,
because some of this damage is structural
damage on these cars from these trees falling.

>> Aaron Clements (57:49):
Well, something interesting to know, Carol, and we'll share this real
quick, right before we, run to this break.
But there is a chance then a tree could fall, on a
car, do a lot of damage to the
vehicle. They could take it in, have it
repaired, and somebody buy it
later. And there may not be any kind of report that that
vehicle had damage.

>> Carol Proctor (58:11):
Oh, true.

>> Aaron Clements (58:13):
Okay. Wow. Okay. That's something to think about.
Important information, Carol. Thank you
very much.

>> Carol Proctor (58:19):
And a lot of these cars, they get fixed, too.
They get the roof damaged, and it was raining. And water
gets down in the dash. It's not a flood,
but water gets into the dash, and you
could have electrical problems later on.

>> Aaron Clements (58:33):
Wow. Okay, that's good.

>> Carol Proctor (58:35):
A lot of the insurance companies and I know the better body shops
in town. If we saw a car that got
water into the dash or around the electrical
components, we're listing that stuff,
and a lot of the insurance companies are totaling those
cars.

>> Aaron Clements (58:50):
Wow.

>> Jamie B (58:51):
Well, yeah, it's hard to find those gremlins once
water gets in the wires.

>> Aaron Clements (58:55):
Yeah. Great information, Carol. Thank you
very much.
Let's go over to Donnie. Donnie, welcome to
the CNC auto show. And what can we help
you with?

>> Ron (59:08):
you. There's an echo. I, don't know if I can understand.

>> Aaron Clements (59:12):
Yeah, we're trying to, figure, what's going
on. We'll get that repaired a little bit. well,
we might not get repaired for this show, but, yes,
I've heard.

>> Ron (59:22):
As an echo, I can tell you what I'm talking?
What I'm calling about
my daughter's 26 team
Nissan. The air conditioner all of a
sudden started making a funky noise.
And. But they see works
fine. It's not a real loud noise, but you

(59:43):
can hear. Have you run into that before?

>> Aaron Clements (59:46):
Well, it makes me wonder if you might have a
blower motor issue. And I will
say from time to time, things can. The blower
motor is just a little squirrel cage fan.

>> Jamie B (59:57):
Yeah.

>> Aaron Clements (59:57):
And there's times that things can fall down inside
there. That's one item. The
other item that it could be. You mentioned a thumping
noise, and that brings to mind a
possibility. Yeah, exactly. Jamie, hit it
there. An actuator inside the dash.
It used to be the system would use vacuum to move

(01:00:17):
the control doors to mode doors and the, air temp
doors, but now they use a little electric
actuators that move
the doors. And if a,
if one of those actuators is either out of calibration
or bad, usually they're just bad. they would
need to be replaced. You can tell if it's that

(01:00:38):
by moving. A lot of times you might be able to
move to a different mode. Like if you
got it blowing out the defrost, move it to blow
out the heater, sift changes,
and, or if the temperature, you can go from
hot to cold and sift, the noise either goes away
or gets worse. And that

(01:00:58):
will let you know if it is an actuator.
And you may be able to tell which actuator it
is from there, because there's about three or usually three
or four different actuators. One to control the mode,
one, whether it's going up or down or out the
vents, facing you, or the
temperature, blend door or the
recycle door, any one of those can

(01:01:21):
be. And a lot of cars now have dual
temperature control, so some of them have two of those.
So, Alain, a little bit more. You
describing a air door
actuator. And that's something
that ranges in price
tremendously, depending on which one it
is. Some can be replaced without pulling the dash,

(01:01:43):
some m, you have to pull the whole dash.

>> Jamie B (01:01:45):
So what I would do to start out, I'd probably pull
that cabin filter and make sure that it's been changed and it's
got, not got some, something
inside that's, you know, pulled into the blower
motor, which, you know, if it hasn't been changed in
a while, it's a good idea to change it anyway.
but those blower motor actuators, if you get to

(01:02:05):
where you're going to do the repair for those
yourself, they come with instructions
in the box. Make sure you read the
instructions for the actuators, because if you plug it
in and then install it, you messed up the
calibration, and it is not going to work.

>> Aaron Clements (01:02:21):
Like you shot after that.

>> Jamie B (01:02:23):
Yeah. So make sure you, do
research for those actuators. If that's the route that you're going
to. Got to go with it.

>> Aaron Clements (01:02:31):
M
Donnie, did that fix you up?

>> Ron (01:02:40):
Well, there's, like. There's an
echo. I didn't. I couldn't understand all you were
saying.

>> Aaron Clements (01:02:48):
Wow. Okay. We,
definitely apologize for the echo. It does seem like I
can hear it now. It is. It is a lot worse.
we will get that taken care of and
repaired, and we very much
appreciate the call. Thank
you. Okay, we will go to the
next caller, and if it's got too much of an

(01:03:10):
echo on it, we may or
may not be able to make that work.
Kim, welcome to the CNC auto show. What can
we help you with?
May not be able.
Kim, I think we have an echo. We

(01:03:32):
may have to, We
may have to get you to call next week.

>> Carol Proctor (01:03:43):
I can listen to you on the radio.

>> Aaron Clements (01:03:46):
Okay. We, We unfortunately,
are not able to make.

>> Jamie B (01:03:51):
If he's, talking into his phone and listening through the
radio, then he.

>> Aaron Clements (01:03:55):
I don't think that's what's happening. I think we have an issue with the, With
the stations giving us feedback. Okay, we'll continue
on. We'll continue talking about the fluids that
we got. And we, We will have the,
Hopefully, we'll get the phones repaired before the
end there.
one of the fluids that gets overlooked a lot is rear
differential fluid. so many

(01:04:16):
times, it's out of sight, out of mind,
and so many. And it's got a long interval
before it has to be replaced. So many times, people just
overlook it. They just. They don't even think about it
until the rear differential starts making a
noise. They're riding down the road. They either hear a grindy noise or
hear a, whining noise.

(01:04:36):
And then they say, oh, I hadn't had my rear differential
replaced and it's got 150,000 miles. I need to
go get it done. so, of course, once you hear the
noise, the damage is already done.

>> Jamie B (01:04:46):
Yep.

>> Aaron Clements (01:04:47):
so you might as well go ahead and, you're going to end up needing
bearings or something. Keep an eye out. If
your car is a rear wheel drive
vehicle, or it has a four wheel
drive on it. You have differentials
on it. You have a transfer case on it. Those
fluids have to be replaced from time to time. Some
have an interval as long as 90,000

(01:05:09):
miles. Other ones have an interval at 30,000
miles. So take a glance at that owner's manual, which
that kills me on somebody to buy a,
$20 watch and read the whole
manual on how to work the watch. and
they'll buy, $80,000 vehicle. Never open a
manual, which I understand

(01:05:30):
that because some of them are pretty thick now, but I would at
least look at the intervals
or get with your service advisor and let
them give you an idea of when they recommend this,
when they recommend that. And each time you take your
vehicle in for a service, let them do a good
inspection on the vehicle and let them tell you if things
are coming due on the vehicle. Because if

(01:05:53):
nobody tells you at 90,000 miles, hey, you need to have your
rear differential fluid change. Then the next thing you'll
know, you'll have 125, 150, you'll hear the
grinding noise, and you'll spend thousands of dollars.

>> Jamie B (01:06:04):
And then, I think that's probably one of the worst, worst
smells in the automotive world is
burnt gear oil.

>> Aaron Clements (01:06:11):
Yes, yes.

>> Jamie B (01:06:12):
it's as hard to describe it. If you've
never, smelled it, then, you're lucky.

>> Aaron Clements (01:06:17):
Yes. So that's, that's rear differential, front
differential. If you have a four wheel drive unit
and, ah, or an all wheel drive unit and
the transfer case that you have, which,
if you have an all wheel drive, you'll have a transfer case of
sometime have that fluid, change when it's
required on there, and we're gonna move on. Oh,

(01:06:38):
we're not gonna get to cover brake fluid.

>> Jamie B (01:06:40):
No, we ran out of time.

>> Aaron Clements (01:06:42):
We'll just say it flat out. Brake fluid exchanges are
important.

>> Jamie B (01:06:45):
Yes.

>> Aaron Clements (01:06:46):
it holds moisture. so
if you brake fluid, there's a test strip that people
can put in. If you brake fluid has 40, 50,000
miles, have the test strip done, on a regular basis.
We're out of time. We sure enjoyed it this week
at a, fantastic show. but it's
time to shut it down for this week.