This week's episode explores the intersection of golf and life, featuring lively stories from tournaments, insightful gear discussions, and the personal journeys of each host. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own experiences with golf and how the game shapes their mindset.
• Recap of Harry Hall's recent success at the Sony Open
• Discussion on the recent trip to South Carolina and unexpected delays
• In-depth exploration of True Blue and Caledonia golf courses
• Insights into Charleston Muni's historic design and template holes
• The psychological impact of streaks in golf and life
• Emphasis on enjoyment and connection over competition
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is Harry Hall and you're listening to the
Chasing Daylight Podcast.
This is Harry Hall and you'relistening to the Chasing
Daylight Podcast.
Hey, what is up everybody?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Chasing Daylight Podcast and
congrats to Harry Hall on hissecond top 10 of the season.
Off to a banging start.
(00:36):
He's actually in the Comcasttop 10 right now, so congrats to
him on a killer start to thenew year.
Golf is back in the mainlandthis week.
Joe, jot this down.
Let's do the odds near the endof the show, like we used to.
We haven't done that in a longtime, so maybe some people might
find that entertaining.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
As again, let's see if they got them up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, should it's the.
Amex.
I saw them on ESPN already, sothey should be up there.
So thanks everybody for tuningin.
We're live on YouTube, we arelive on X and we are live on
Instagram.
Already got some people poppingon there Sports Dad 1, golf Ho.
Thank you all for tuning in,also real quick.
(01:18):
Want to thank the Golf Stop fortheir continued support for the
show Roars Golf out in Miami.
The man, the legend, uh, themyth, all of those things.
And uh, las vegas goldsuperstore, along with scott
russo from unwritten law,because we do love that harmonic
intro hey fellas, how's, it?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
going great cold going well joe dan you a little
tired yes, I am, yeah, dan gotmonday to just chill.
I think I did not so nice, nice, did you?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
uh, how was the flyback?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
everything okay, no issues, no delays, nothing I
mean you might need to ask danthat one, but I mean it was fine
we, uh, we had a little delay,but yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Uh, it was a crazy flight back home.
Everybody fell asleep and theflight attendant just took a
liking to me.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was a flight attendant.
She picked him out of the crowd, right off the bat man.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Julian did not tell me it was a flight attendant.
I thought he made it sound likeit was a passenger.
Oh no, wow, oh, so were you upthere earning some frequent
flyer miles.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I didn't earn anything really, but she was
cool, so I fell asleep right andI had one and a half beers.
Did you pay for my beers?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, okay, so shout out to her, you free beers yeah,
she must open up for you nice,nice, all right so you guys go
good together, they go goodtogether you guys got back from
south carolina, we'll, we'll betalking about that.
Uh, the sony open took place.
So he said here he got a top 10in haw for the final event in
(03:04):
Hawaii, went to the firstplayoff of the season.
That was kind of exciting.
The new gear from Callaway'shitting stores Got my elite hat
being displayed in the greenelite background.
I didn't know Joe was reppingthe elite stuff as well already.
So respect, respect Jeremy onhis trip can.
(03:26):
If you're watching on instagramor youtube or x, you can see
he's rocking some new headwearbecause he was, uh, down in
scottsdale visited.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, new level, true facility with doc for a little
bit and, uh, I hung out with Docfor a little bit, and Titleist
just lost another player.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, it did, Wow wow .
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we'll be talking about that.
And then today I was chattingwith somebody from Crank Golf.
We're going to have LanceReeder, the owner, the man
behind Crank Golf, is going tocome on.
We're going to have aninterview with him and talk
about all the things thatthey're doing with all the
success that they have had, andthat should be a fun episode.
(04:14):
I I love talking gear withpeople, so, and then, uh, roars
and I we haven't recorded awhile, our schedule just haven't
jived lately, but he's beengetting all the new stuff in.
Uh, you know, I I'm dealingmainly with Callaway, he's
dealing with all of it, andwe've got some great
conversation pieces that we wantto start mainly revolving
around from the fitterstandpoint, not the player
standpoint, the fitterstandpoint, the new cog on the
(04:38):
Cobra drivers that has 32different adjustable settings.
So we we will be talking aboutthat.
I will say this absolutelybrilliant from a fitting
standpoint.
Absolutely horrible thatthey're allowing people to take
those off the shelf.
buy them and take them home souh yeah, word said uh, yeah, I'm
(04:59):
going to be ordering them, it'sgoing to come in, I'm going to
super glue the adapter in placeand ship it.
Nobody needs to have that muchadjustability, that's a lot.
That's just too much, you knowwhat.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
In a previous life, though, matt, I think you would
have thrived having that manyoptions.
The Tinkertown would be.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Hey, I will tell you I would have gone nuts on it and
it would have really fuckedwith me.
Because I mean with that, ifyou don't know what is causing
what, or why what is happening,you can have a hundred changes
on there and none of it's goingto work for you because you have
(05:46):
no idea.
You know, unless you hit thecenter of the face with every
ball strike.
I, I think callaway has toomany options on theirs because
you know, there's just, there'ssome things that don't need
changing, as some people swingsor some people swings, and it's
not going to change.
So it's.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's nice that we have options, but it's good for
some people, I would think, butuh, terrible for others.
But uh, like, you know, likethe the callaway, uh hosel is is
nice, I mean it's easy toremember.
Like, especially if you take agolf trip, take off your head,
you know, you know what it's atyou know, like if you take a
(06:24):
golf trip, take off your head,you know, you know what it's at.
Yeah, you know like, even for me, with my five wood and the
tailor-made hosel, I know I'mlike one to the right of
standard loft, so but if there'slike options that aren't
labeled, like you know and yougo on a trip man, that you
definitely gotta take picturesof your settings before, when
you gotta, when you gotta, bringa pdf with you to yeah exactly
(06:45):
open up to make sure you have iton the right.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know it.
Just, it just seems like yousaid overkill a little bit.
But hey, you never know, younever know.
Uh, tgl had their second weekjust wrapped up earlier.
The start time threw everybodyfor a little bit of a curve big
beef.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I got big beef with that yeah, I figured you would.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I know I posted that and you're like it's already on
and I'm like oh shit, he didn'tI.
I found it by accident, so Ijust thought I was in the, not
knowing that it was coming on atfour instead of six our time,
which I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I also think it's a big miss for them too.
Like you know.
Like you know they, they hadgreat ratings last week.
Uh, the ratings were higherthan something else.
I can't remember, but I sawstats, but I mean you got you
got tiger for the first time ontgl and you start it before the
west coast is done, working witha typical business day.
(07:39):
Yeah, you know, um, some peopleget off earlier.
You know, of course, but youcan't.
You can't do that the firsttime tiger is showing up to the
tgl.
You can't start it before five.
You can't do that.
And if that's the case youshould have done, you should
have started tiger last week atsix pm, prime time.
(07:59):
It's only two hours.
So like 8 pm, uh, eastern 5 pm,start on the west coast is.
It's perfect timing.
The east coast is done by betterthan four yeah, I mean, what
the hell is up with seven likeoh, they got to get home for the
10 pm news or something, and onthe east coast I don't know.
But yeah, that was bad.
(08:19):
I think that was a big miss ontheir part big miss.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So they'll see what happens with the reading.
So I don't know if they'regoing.
You know we didn't get as muchaudience on the east coast
because it started later.
So let's flip it this week andsee what happens.
But I think they're going tolose a lot of west coast
viewership.
So I don't know, maybe they'relike well, there's, you know.
No, I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, if they want to get ratings, I mean they have
to cater to both coasts, youknow.
I mean I know that theyprobably don't care about the
West Coast, but if they wantratings, they need it.
It needs to be 8 pm Easternstart and it needs to be
consistent.
It can't be.
Last week was 6 pm West Coaststart, 9 pm Eastern.
If they want to make this work,it needs to be consistent.
I mean, it's it's not like, youknow, football, where people
(09:06):
are going to watch regardlessand it's on the weekends.
You know, this is a tuesdaynight where people got things
going on.
So it's like, make itconsistent, don't change your
fucking times.
Because I was expecting like tograb the kids, get their dinner
ready and then they starteating and then 6 pm I throw on
tgl and I get to watch whilethey eat.
You know, yeah, that was a bigcurveball.
(09:28):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I didn't like that at all I'm wondering if it has
anything to do with likescheduling um yeah, because
they're having a basketball gameor something tonight, exactly,
yeah, that espn already had, youknow, committed to cover, so
they're like, guess what youknow?
Tgl is going to be in the fouro'clock slot.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, Duke, miami was on.
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's a terrible, terrible time to play such a big
, big name match like that, youknow, with Tiger's debut in it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But another blowout.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, another blowout .
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Another blowout.
Let's talk about how pedestrianKisner lived tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Blading in the back and then flagstick if he's lucky
that could have been in thecrowd he's getting used to that
uh, that uh booth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You know that announcer's booth living
comfortable up in there whenthey were interviewed, tiger and
he's like that thing was rising, it was gonna hit somebody yeah
, for sure but, it was good tosee them being like friends and
playing though like oh yeah I, Ido think in that aspect it was
better than last week's in theyou know trash talk, uh,
(10:33):
personality aspect a little bitbetter personalities.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It was nice to see justin rose having a little fun
out there, because he always hasseemed like a stuffy neck guy.
It was great seeing Saheeth outthere.
Kisner's great Han was great.
Tiger is Hanma who said Hanma,max, hanma, max, hanma.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Did he create Hanma Max?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Homa.
I'm sorry, homa, he's a Homa,so it was nice seeing their
banter.
They have a little bit morepersonalities.
We'll see what happens.
I don't know.
Tiger, I think when he's on thecourse he's a little bit better
than when he's off the course,because him in the booth last
week was not good and he hasn'talways been particularly great
(11:18):
at the genesis I, I mean, I dothink that you know, like, of
course, tiger didn't play up tohis standards, that we think he
should, but I think it was justcool to see them in a relaxed
atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean, it's, it's not real golf, it's simulator
golf, like kisner was, like Iflushed that one and it was like
10 yards short.
You know, yeah, yeah, that'sthe same thing we've done at
five iron, so it's relatable,which I enjoy you know, so is it
?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
joe from lofty?
Is that the account that's oninstagram?
You guys follow him at all uh,he made a post.
I think that's what I'll have tolook and see uh, he made a post
earlier today uh, after tgl andhe was saying that you know
when you're watching a PGA Tourevent on the weekends unless
you're watching PGA Tour live,but the casual viewing fan that
(12:10):
flips on NBC at 2 o'clock in theafternoon watching they're
highlighting the leaders, theguys that are tearing it up.
They're not looking at theperson that is at the bottom of
the field, and so you're seeingelite players playing elite golf
.
Well, now you have six guys andif someone's struggling, guess
(12:31):
what, they're getting televised,and so he said it's.
He thinks that you know,potentially it could be a
viewership problem, that peoplearen't going to get behind
watching guys struggle.
Whereas he said and I agree, Ilove watching pros struggle.
Because it makes me relate tothem a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
We're never going to match bank accounts.
We certainly can match HouselRockets in a bunker, greenside,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So we'll have to see Uh-oh Hot take Tiger walking out
to Eye of the tiger was a bitcringy I didn't catch that
because I didn't know what timeit started, but uh, I gotta
assume that that might be a bitcringy yeah, when I turned it on
they were, uh, getting ready tohit, but everybody was talking
about the tiger.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Entrance was electric , so I was, but you know, I have
the tiger.
Tiger, come on.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
That makes sense I did see the meme where it was
like the, the haze and the fogand he's walking out and it's
like there's red lights and hislike eyes are a little low and
it's like me back in 10th gradein the back seat in my friend's
car yeah, uh, I can relate I canrelate yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We'll see if that happens.
Uh, I mean, oh, can't wait forthe first tgo crash out.
Yeah, I, I can't wait for, youknow, a ball in the stands.
That's going to be fantastic,it's bound to happen.
And then, oh, there's going tobe nets now all the way around.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, and you said you sent the ticket prices too.
Do you think that it did?
Was that for tonight's?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
match.
What did it say?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't remember, but I just saw that and went wow.
Yeah, I mean it was $846.
I think there's not a lot ofseats in the place but I mean,
for the first time tiger showingup, I could see.
I could see that price.
You know, it's like if lebroncomes to, comes to see the
indiana pacers or something like, the tickets are probably going
(14:32):
to be higher on resale caitlinclark coming and playing the
aces.
Oh, let's move the arena tot-mobile, where it fits 17 000
yeah, I mean I'm curious to seewhere that goes, because they
don't have a lot of seats inthat building.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, this was down in section 118, row WC1, $876.
That's insane.
That was a tweet fromMondayQInfo.
He's like no, I don't want toplay in the TGL, I just want to
watch.
And it shows the ticket pricesat $876 each, which is that's as
much as the Ryder Cup isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah.
Yeah, $750 for the Ryder Cup,which they did.
They did earlier this weekright T's expansion to Las Vegas
.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, Phoenix Vegas.
And what was the other one?
Did they say in that?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Was it Seattle or something like that?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Maybe Seattle, yeah, so you know, we got the space
for it.
We do.
I mean they're not going toconvert the sphere, because
that's.
I mean that would be awesome,but that's not going to happen.
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy.
(15:47):
You know all I got?
They got all that room behindthe uh paris.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You know where they have, uh, the battle bots, yeah,
and formula shout out jared.
Are they talking about, likebuilding a whole facility, or is
it just a team from vegas?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
oh, I don't know yeah , that's what I didn't know for
sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So oh well, if it's a , I mean, why would you hype up
a team expansion because there'sno?
Just hey, we're gonna add moreplayers.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Just do that you know , yeah, like if you want a team.
I mean, like you know, theteams don't make sense already.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Anyway, yeah, because if we get, if we get you know
some golfers I can't stand thataren't even from Vegas.
Now you fill it with all theUNLV guys that are playing on
tour Harry Hall, Ryan Moore.
Harry, Ryan Moore, TaylorMontgomery.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Or.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Kitayama.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Kitayama.
Hey, yeah, that's a Vegas team.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I can get behind that .
Speaker 1 (16:38):
All coming out there wearing Rebel Red?
Yeah, that would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Or live here.
It's something Colin Steak andXander Steak and Kevin Na is not
getting a piece of that.
No, scott Piercy.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
We'll see what happens with that.
Did you guys watch any of theSony Open?
A little bit Not much.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You guys were in South Carolinaolina so you
really don't care yeah, you weretraveling, jerry, I was a
homebody, I had nobody to goplay golf with and sat at home
and watch tv.
No, it was pretty good it was.
It was.
It was a good tournament.
You know, I was rooting forharry there and he got it to 15
under.
I think he was a couple off andthen had a couple whole stretch
(17:26):
where just kind of fell off anduh didn't didn't finish as
strong as he could have.
But hey, like I said, anothertop 10 had to play off with uh,
nick, taylor and Nico or howeveryou say his last name.
That was fun to see.
Glad the Hawaii swing is over,because what's the guy's name
(17:50):
that's there, that lives inHawaii?
That's, I cannot standlistening to him commentary
because every shot is a bad shot.
Oh, that's a poor shot from him.
Oh, that's a poor shot.
He's really going to be upset.
Oh, that's a portion.
Every freaking shot that's notwithin four feet of the pin.
Oh, that's a bad shot.
He's really going to be upsetwith himself, for that's a bad.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's like good lord dude, go back to maui yeah, but
don't you think that's like anissue with a lot of golf, when
you play with people that aren'tup to your skill level, skill
level or you're below theirskill level, you know?
I mean, I feel that way.
Sometimes I mean, I'm not agreat golfer, but you know if
(18:31):
I'm, I plan on hitting the greenand you know if I'm just short
or something like that, I'mplaying with someone I don't
play with often and they're like, hey, no, that was a good shot
because it's uh, he, obviouslythat commentator is not a good
golfer.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So well, I just don't think he's a better golfer than
they are I just don't thinkevery shot needs to come out
with oh that was a poor shot.
He's really going to be upsetwith that because definitely,
yeah.
So maybe he didn't hit itwithin the tour average to 15
feet, but okay, maybe the liewasn't exactly perfect, maybe
(19:06):
there was a gust of wind, maybehe caught a little fat.
You know, it's like god man,it's just.
It doesn't have to be bad abouteverything.
He's just a pessimist, I guessI don't know, it was just.
I was like put it on mute andjust listen to some tf still in
the background.
I was watching it because Ijust can't stay elusive to dibs.
All right, let's get into yourtrip.
(19:29):
Let's hear about it.
Everybody's interested.
I was bummed because four of myclosest friends are on a golf
trip and I'm getting no content.
None, I'm refreshing the app.
I'm like what the hell app.
I'm like what the hell is goingon.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
so what the hell is going on go ahead, dad, we froze
out pretty much day one.
We uh get a call the nightbefore we're supposed to tee off
saying hey, we know you got atee time at eight, but just to
let you know, you know we'vebeen having frost delays and
we've been sending people outabout 10, 30, 11 o'clock.
(20:07):
So get on the horn later in thenext morning to call them to
see what the delay is going tobe like.
And the guy's like, yeah, letme find out.
Once we talk to thesuperintendent, you know, we'll
let you know.
Calls back about 20 minuteslater.
Yeah, you guys are shit out ofluck.
We're closing the course today,which?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
course was that one.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That was True Blue.
True Blue was the first yeah,was the first one and then we
were supposed to play Caledoniain the afternoon.
So we hit up Caledonia and theypretty much told us that they
don't see it getting much warmerand that they're going to shut
it down too.
So day one was a complete loss.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But we also called.
So we also called TPC MyrtleBeach and Prestwick, which were
supposed to be played the nextday, and they kind of gave us a
little run around like hey, Imean it's possible, blah, blah,
blah.
So like up until 12, we're justtrying to find a golf course
that's open for the day you know, just to go play golf and not
go stir crazy in the house.
(21:11):
Um, dude at tbc myrtle beach Ithink his name was brian legend,
that dude was awesome.
Um, we prepaid for that roundand he's gonna send us some rain
checks because that wasactually for Saturday, right?
But you know we you know Treyasked like what do you guys want
(21:33):
to play?
And you know I said True Blueis number one, caledonia is
number two.
So we had to move True Blue andCaledonia because that was our
first day which they closed thecourses, and caledonia because
that was our first day whichthey closed the courses.
We moved those to saturday.
And tpc myrtle beach andpressed wick, which is a pbp dye
design.
Um was saturday, so we justcanceled that as well.
(21:54):
And they had, uh, trey's creditcard on file and the dude was
really cool there too.
I can't remember his name, buthe canceled it for us.
No charge, nice.
But yeah, we went.
We were a little.
We went to publics two or threetimes on friday, just to get out
of the house we were hitting,uh ping pong balls into fucking
(22:14):
coffee cups and trying to make,uh, you know, mini golf holes in
the house.
Uh, on friday, because andthere was no smoking in the
front, no smoking in the back,so it's raining a little bit.
We're walking half block downthe street, uh, just to go hang
out.
And uh, yeah, it was.
(22:35):
Uh, that friday was prettyrough, wow and it wasn't even
that bad, though that's thething.
We were in the public and we'restanding in the parking lot and
I'm like this is fucking nice.
And Julian kept asking me.
He's like, would you play golfin this?
Yes, of course I'd play golf inthis.
You know, it wasn't bad at all,it was actually very nice.
(22:55):
I mean, there was no wind,there was like a little gentle
drizzle.
I think they were just scaredof what could happen and it
never came.
Personally, I don't think thecourses were froze, because the
next day the you know tea wouldgo down all the way, down all
the way down.
Yeah, so first day pretty suck,pretty bad the tray by his
(23:20):
gallon of ice tea from publics.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
No, I think you skipped that one.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, okay, but you did get the chicken tender sub,
got it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, we also had, we definitely went to more grocery
stores than we did.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Golf courses on this trip, hey.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Julian giving you much props.
Dan said you stuck to the fooddiet.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I did.
Yeah, my mind is set food diet.
I did.
When my mind is set onsomething, I'm locked in, I'm
right there with you.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Except when it comes to vaping.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
My mind was never set .
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I set my mind.
Somebody was trying to set hismind.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
We went and bought cards from Publix.
We were playing cards, we had aping pong match because there
was a ping pong table in thegarage.
That was actually a lot of fun.
That was fun.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
yeah, joe's nuts with a ping pong battle, bro.
I didn't realize that.
Joe's over there, just likehe's freaking national champion
forrest gump over there, justhitting these nasty little
cutters and shit like damn joe,I can shape it on the ping pong
table.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I can shape it, I hit draws low fingers.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, he's hitting power cuts with a serve and shit
it's so funny when I when Iplay pickleball with the wife.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I, because I I'm the same way with ping pong.
I'm the same way as I was thesame way when I played tennis.
And it's like she gets so madbecause I'll do this backspin
liner that just stops when ithits the ground and you can
never pull that off with.
You know people that know whatthe hell they're doing when they
play pickleball, but it's funjust messing around with it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah yeah, but it was .
I mean, all in all it was.
It was a good trip.
We made the most out of it.
Um, even though friday all thecourses were closed, it was.
It was good to uh hang out, youknow, have a little.
The house was great.
The airbnb was great.
It wasn't a trailer on the sideof a state highway in the
middle of nowhere next to adollar general, um, but yeah,
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saturday, uh.
So we changed friday's twotimes to true blue, caledonia,
no, frosted.
Late saturday played true bluein the morning, caledonia in the
afternoon, which that's a wholeother story.
The pro shop guy was like yeah,you know, we can tell you about
that if you want, but um, well,yeah, that's why we're here
yeah, so first of all, we canstart with true blue.
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It was a little cold, it waschilly, but it was.
It's doable, it was totallydoable, it wasn't miserable, it
wasn't bad and an incrediblegolf course.
True blue, I could play everysingle day of my life and be
completely happy.
My strands flatter tobacco roadnot as crazy as tobacco road
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like so good, yeah, so good istrue, blue a design of his or
did he?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
remodel it?
Did he like?
I was waiting for dan to jumpin, but go ahead, jeremy.
So is true, blue.
Did he actually design it ordid he, like, renovate it?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah.
So mike strance, um, he passedaway too early.
He, he worked under, uh shit,tom fazio.
He worked under tom fazio, uh,for a long time.
He only he died early.
So he only has eight solodesigns.
Um, his first solo design iscaledonia, and then he designed
true blue tobacco road, royalkent, royal new kent, stonehouse
(26:43):
, bulls bay and, uh, the one in,uh, san jose.
I forget the name, but and tothill and thought hill and tot
hill.
So, um, yeah, he died too early.
He also worked on montereypeninsula golf club or uh, cc,
um.
But his first solo design wasCaledonia, and I'm assuming True
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Blue is next.
I don't know for sure, but yeah, it's all strands, it's strands
through and through and youknow, this is the third strands
that me and Dan have played, aswell as Juju and Trey, and you
start to see the characteristicspop out on the golf course.
And it was interesting to playhis first golf course that he
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designed in Caledonia, becauseyou can see him trying to find
himself.
It was really fucking cool forme because Caledonia felt
Fazio-esque, but then there wasthese like strands pieces, and
he didn't want to like detourtoo much from where he learned.
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But then you play true blue.
Well, I wish we played.
I wish you played inchronological order, but we
didn't.
But true blue is is tobaccoroad, a flatter tobacco road,
and it was incredible.
Like true blue is so dope, sosick and trey almost hold out on
every, every fucking part.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
What every fucking part what makes it so sick,
though, for people that haven'tplayed one?
I haven't played one, I've justseen pictures it's fun.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
That's the thing.
Like he uses a lot of like thenewer art, newer designers now
using a lot of the natural wildgrasses and using like a lot of
different of the naturalcontours that are there.
But he also puts his littletwist on it, like I'm going to
go ahead and make this part, youknow I'm going to raise this
bump up here and make this overhere a little bit bigger and
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more slope on this side, but hemakes it where it's not like
unfair.
He actually built like designslike these huge, like swales and
bumps to actually kind of toyour benefit, cause like there's
a lot of times where you hitinto his green complexes and
you'll see this giant slope, butif you hit it towards that
slope it's going to funneleverything right down towards
the hole.
(28:58):
So he, he, like Joe said, withthe three courses that we played
, with Caledonia being his firstand possibly true blue being
the second, you could, you cantotally see the progression and
the risk that he take, that hetook in building a course like
tobacco road, because when youplay tobacco road and play
caledonia, I mean you both, youget the strands feel on both
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courses, but one is so extremeand the other one is just a lot
more subdued, both fun as hell.
Just he's just.
You can tell that he wasdesigning his golf courses to
have fun on.
He didn't really design them tokick your ass too much.
He was just like, hey, let'stry this.
And then, you know, it came out.
It came out brilliant.
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I think he was just.
He's one of the most fun golfcourse designers there is.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Truth, he's one of the most fun golf course
designers there is Truth, isit's still?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
pretty long, isn't it ?
I was Tobacco Road's, notTobacco Road's, not longer.
They had a lot of tee boxesclosed, so it could stretch out
a bit for sure.
That's true, I think Dan'scompletely correct.
And also, playing the templateholes that we saw at Charleston
Muni, you can see how Stranceused the Redan slopes and the
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double plateau slopes to hisadvantage in his mind, how he
thought about a golf coursewhich was so sick.
They call him the maverick.
He's a little different.
He goes against the grain and Imean there's.
I've never played another golfcourse where you drive through
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bunkers, for example, like thecar path is the bunker bunkers,
where the car path, just like attobacco road, you drive through
bunkers, you know the bunker is, you know, a hazard, but you
can lay your club, especially attobacco road.
Nobody rakes any bunkers attobacco road and it's just kind
of like you hit it where you hitit and you find a way to get
out of it and you you play itfrom there and um, a lot of like
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big sandy areas and like theselittle, you know, like round
little pieces of grass that have, like, um, native grasses in
them and like feeding to things,feeding to holes, different pin
positions and it's like, uh,it's like a roller coaster.
It's kind of like it's it's.
You can be creative on his golfcourses.
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That's what I really enjoyliving for the moment yeah,
exactly yeah, that's what he didand I wish he had more moments
to build for us, because he'sonly got eight solos and, uh, it
is definitely a goal of mine toplay all of them.
Yeah, for sure, because he is.
He.
Is he after this trip?
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He moved up like he might.
He could potentially overtakeDoak.
He is number two for mecurrently.
Awesome.
That dude is a brilliant mindin golf course design.
He went against the grain andhe built golf courses for fun.
You can tell that in the design.
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He enjoyed making the golfcourse to play know, and I
really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I wish he was able to build more gotta take advantage
of the time you got when you'rehere, man, it's the yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
The only bummer about true blue is we started on
number 10 um, so I wish we wouldhave played it to his original
design um 18, which is the ninthhole that we played great
finishing hole you're.
You're hitting into big there'sa big uh lake on the side and
you're hitting into theclubhouse.
But to me I think the frontnine was better than the back
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nine, like the the front ninewhich was our, you know, back
nine was back nine yeah, so sick, like that short par four was
so dope.
That par three with the wateraround it and it looked like a
fucking dumbbell.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, that par five where it just it's literally
like a sea yeah, goes aroundthat big lake so many amazing
golf holes, so many rob says yougot to play todd hill, provided
conditions are good.
It's a dialed up tobacco road.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's almost unfair in some spots, but most fun courts
will ever play yeah todd hillis on the list, um, and after
the, the renovation to strances,original design, that's
definitely on the list, um, youknow.
And then after, uh, after trueblue, we got to play caledonia,
which was his first design andis probably one.
(33:30):
It is probably the bestentrance to a golf course I've
ever.
Personally, it's definitely amagnolia lane-ish it's super
magnolia, lane-ish man, you,just you, it's like.
It's like probably like aquarter mile just canopy over
the whole drive sick so sickuntil you go into the clubhouse
(33:55):
and meet old.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What was his name?
I don't even remember anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So we showed up you showed up at like we just
finished True Blue, we didn'teat anything.
We get over to caledonia and uh, he's like, uh, you know, and
the replay, the, the rates werefantastic, shout out the rates,
um.
But he's like you guys want toplay 9 or 18.
And uh, we're like 18.
(34:21):
He's like, oh well, uh, yeah, Idon't know like he's like I
don't know what he's trying todo, right, but it sounded like
he wanted us to play nine andwe're like, well, we want to
play 18.
It was one o'clock, sun goesdown at like 5, 30, almost six,
yeah, yeah, close to six.
And uh, we're like we want toplay 18.
And then he's like, well, youknow, I mean, because I mean it
(34:45):
was just so weird, he didn'twant us to be there for 18 holes
.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, I think he was.
Honestly, I think he was justwanting us to play nine so they
could shut down early because itwas a little chilly.
But we were already, the sunwas out and the wind had picked
up a little bit that second halfback, the second 18 for us, so
the wind got a little chilly.
But yeah, he was like, he wastotally like uh yeah, he was
like it's fast, he doesn't getoff the course that better for
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us all yeah, it's like well.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He literally said well, it's cold outside, like he
was trying to talk us out ofplaying 18.
It was so weird, um, but wewere.
I was like, and I was like canwe just pay for 18 and if we
don't finish, we'll just comeoff when it's time?
He's like well, then we got tosend someone out there to get
you.
It was really weird.
So, but we ended up playing, wepaid for 18.
(35:36):
We played, we caught up to thegroup in front of us on like 13.
And they let us play throughand we finished by 430.
And I was expecting, when wecame in, he was there, I was.
I was expecting him to be like,yeah, you guys, good for you
guys.
You know, I didn't think youguys were gonna do it, you know,
but he, he was silent um but,yeah, what, what a fucking
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fantastic finishing hole atcaledonia like that finishing
hole is sick.
So dope, dope.
I said to Dan.
I think I said could youimagine playing this during a
VGN finals, this final hole?
It would be so perfect.
The patio right there lines upperfectly to the 18th green.
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And it is a fantastic finishing18th hole and beyond the 18th
hole.
There are so many great holesout there and the bridges out
there are incredible and themoss hanging from the trees are
fantastic.
The par threes are so sick andit was just for me.
It was really cool being a golfarchitecture fan and playing
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Mike Strance's first golf coursehe ever built and, like I, I
thought it was incredible andyou can see you can see the
fazio in it, which was kind ofcool, and you can see him trying
to break away from thefazio-ness of where he he
understudied.
I thought I thought it was greatand and they make perfect
sister courses they areliterally two minutes from each
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other.
You play true blue and they'reright across.
Like it took us two minutes toget to caledonia.
The only, the only thing that Idid not like is that the the
chowder shack was closed for theseason and I wanted to get some
chowder because it's next tothe practice green and you know
(37:30):
during the season they have.
They have a guy out there justgiving you chowder when you pass
by and I really wanted.
I really wanted that.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So that just means you gotta go back, exactly yeah
I'd be happy to go back 100.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I didn't get the chowder we have a rain check, so
we're going to have to go back.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
All right.
So then what happened the nextday.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So, yeah, we did that .
We found out that most of uslove really good salads, so we
had another salad at Lowe's Food.
Shout out Lowe's Food.
Lowe's is awesome, I cut up asalad tonight and that's what
I'm gonna have, trying torecreate the lowes food salad I
have a salad almost every dayhey, and shout out salty golfer,
he's tuning in.
(38:14):
Uh, I did have a salty golferbeer if you're in the area, and,
uh, and so did dan you grabyourself a salty golfer beer.
His, uh, yearly two-mantournament, right, yeah, two-man
tournament.
It's called the plunder.
It's happening at caledonia inaugust, I believe.
So if you're interested ingoing down there to play that,
go hit up the salty golfer andsign up for that.
(38:34):
It's a fantastic spot for atournament, um, but, yeah, after
that.
So we hung out and then, uh, wewoke up at 6 am, uh, and drove
down, yeah, and then we wentdown to charleston muni golf
course, uh, and shout outcharleston muni.
What a great logo.
1929.
(38:56):
Uh, reno, reno'd.
I get reno'd, yeah, in 2020 bytroy miller.
Uh, we met up with Tyler Woodsand Jameson, who has been on the
podcast Blind Squirrel Golf.
It was.
It was true Muni, true, trueMuni.
100% true Muni.
(39:17):
But the greens, the greens,tiny greens tiny greens, tiny
template greens.
You have no idea about thesegreens.
These are greens, these arehistoric greens, they are rainer
greens, they are templategreens, like and it's.
And what was so cool aboutcharleston muni was, you know,
(39:37):
like old mac is built off oftemplate greens, or template
holes as they call them, andlike the redan and the maiden
and you know the alps, andthat's what charleston muni is.
It's completely.
It's basically flat.
It's a flat golf course.
Not many interesting t shots,uh, unless the hole turns a
little bit or something likethat, or if there's a tree in
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the way.
But the greens are based on, uh,you know the, the template
holes that cb mc, cb McDonaldcame up with and that Doak built
basically Old Mac off of andtook his mind to in recreating
Old Mac and the Lido and allthat.
So every hole has a name.
(40:20):
It's based on the template.
And we got there and I was likethis is cool, but it's a Muni.
And then we got on the firstgreen which you can't even tell
from the first fairway.
You don't even like you see thegreen or you're hitting into
the green and you're like, oh,it looks like a green.
And then you get up there andyou're like holy shit.
Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Double plateau first green double plateau plateau.
First green double plateau.
First green plateau on the leftside.
Plateau on the back side.
Everything's sloping from theleft to right and then from back
to front.
Wow, it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Uh, it was cool yeah, oh, yeah, it's, yeah, yeah
tough tea time.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's a tough tea time to get, supposedly yeah so
tyler booked it for us.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
He he lives 10 minutes away and um we were.
Uh, trey texted him.
He's like uh, so we're gonna beout there.
He's like well, it's nearlyimpossible to get two times so
he was able to secure some, butum would have took more pictures
of the greens and the.
The camera just does does notdo any justice to that place at
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all.
Those greens are insane, likethe punch bowl.
Is that punch bowl green isnuts, it's literally a fucking
bowl.
It's crazy, yeah.
And the Redan hole and the roadhole and the Maiden and it's
just really fucking cool, reallyfucking cool to play some like
(41:47):
historic golf and understandwhere these template holes came
from and they're like they'retrue template holes.
They're not like reincarnations, like Doak did at Old MacDonald
, like at Old MacDonald, likeDoak reinterpreted them, which
they're still the templates.
But these are like hard cutting, cookie cutter templates, like
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yeah, the edges are cut, likethis is a template hole and you
can, you can move some stuffaround, like dope did old mac,
like you can soften it here,soften it there, but this is
like cookie cutter template holeand it was wild great deal for
locals too.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
We got a.
We got paired up with this, uh,with this kid what was his name
?
Do I forget his name?
Patrick, patrick, yeah, and hebrought, he brought his dog out.
Kevin.
Kevin was awesome, um, but 25for that course to walk, yeah,
wow, 25 bucks we paid, you guyswalk 82 to ride.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, we paid to ride our cars have flat tires yeah
yeah, but it's $25 to the locals.
You don't have a lot of truebudget yeah true muni it is a
true muni through and through,like at 75 years running the
shop good conditions, thoughcobwebs in every single corner.
(43:03):
Greens were great.
Fairways, dormant, firm, firmfast.
Greens were great, Bunkers weregreat.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Really good.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Dormant and firm and laid grass was laying down, but,
yeah, the the holes 11 through11.
12, 13, 14, 15, 16,.
11 through 16 is actually well.
What is that?
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
11 through 16 is actually well.
11 through 14 is why you go,but 11 through 16 is incredible.
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It's Redan, cape Road, shortand then Maiden.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, the road was cool.
I like that one a lot.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, redan, cape Road and Short is why you go
there.
I had a putt.
So if you've watched, like theFriday video, uh, short, short
is a template hole.
It's a short par three, sobasically.
And then there's anothertemplate hole that's called long
.
That's a long par three, but thethe short is a square green and
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it's got like basically a bigthumbprint in the middle that
doesn't go all the way through.
So it's not like a beer, it's.
It's like a like a three bigthumbprint in the middle that
doesn't go all the way through.
So it's not like a beer ritz,it's like a three-quarter
thumbprint in the middle.
Basically, yeah, it looks likea toilet seat.
So I was right at the bottom ofthe toilet seat and I was like
trying, like and it breaks ashit ton and the hole was back
left, so I was like trying toslingshot it around the toilet
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seat and it took up and I hit ittoo hard and it was so close to
going off the back of the green.
It's like it's like playingDonald Ross, like everything
feeds off, you know, and DonaldRoss is like turtleback.
This is like it's like it justgoes like plateaus.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, almost every green is like
raised there like three feet,three to four feet, so there's
one hole.
What was that?
Par five, joe?
It's raised like seven feetit's huge.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was uh, I think that was called
knob, knob, knob oh yeah, that'swhat I like great name um, and
then nine, nine, so nine.
There it's a long par four.
There's a bunker that's like inthe middle of the fairway and
we we saw it coming in and thethe bunker is 30 yards short of
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the green yeah, 50 yards shortof the green.
But when you, when you hit itand you're in the fairway,
you're like that's right infront of the green and so you're
just trying to hit it over thisbunker.
And then, if you hit it overthat bunker, you still got 30,
40 yards to get to the green.
And it was so cool, like thedeception, uh.
And also they have short flags.
The flags are like three feettall yeah yeah so really wow.
(45:56):
They say it like if you're notfrom there.
It plays with your perceptionof like you know yeah depth.
You pick up these flags andyou're like this feels like a
toy.
It was so weird.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Like you know, I just put my arm on the putting green
yeah, a little taller than theflags on the putting green yeah,
pretty crazy, yeah, and afantastic logo, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Then we hit the, then we hit the Charleston pub or
whatever sports pub, yeah, andthen we, then we did the airport
shuffle and got out of Dodge,you know.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Well, it sucks about the first day, but yeah you made
the best of it.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
We did.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Sometimes you have a reason to go back to.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
There is a lot of golf out there to play A lot of
golf.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
And Bulls Bay is horses.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
There's shit done.
Bulls Bay is private strandscourse.
It's like an in our charlesyeah so it's in between
charleston and paulie's island.
We were in paulie's island,which is a little south of
myrtle, but uh, yeah, I'm on amission to play every strands
course.
So if anybody knows anybody atbulls bay, I'll come out and
play it, if you can get us outthere.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
If you're listening.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I saw a video some guy posted where he had rated
some of the courses inMassachusetts and he said that
the Massachusetts GolfAssociation came out with their
top 100 courses in Massachusetts.
He was going down this list andI'm like.
Massachusetts isn't the biggeststate in the union.
They have the top 100, whichmeans there's more because some
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courses don't make the top 100.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
In massachusetts I was like good lord, but you know
what's so funny about like thatis like east coast golf is so
different from what we have outhere oh yeah, I was in boston.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That course I played in boston was so different, so
there is.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
There is massive pockets of incredible golf,
incredible golf course logos and, uh, you know it's there's too
much out there to play and uh,you know massachusetts is in
that area, where you know it,there's Connecticut, there's
Delaware, there's New York rightthere.
(48:20):
Like there's so much out therethat you can hit, I mean a lot
of it's private, that's oldmoney up there and there is a
shit ton of golf to play.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
And history is incredible.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, the history is so crazy.
Well, where?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
we played was across the street from old sandwich and
, oh yeah, I was like why didn'twe play there?
Because I didn't know anythingabout the area where we're going
.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
He's like, oh, I'll find a place to go and I'm like
old sandwiches across the road,dude yeah because yeah, that was
like 145, this was only 35 Idon't know if it's just like
because I'm, because I live invegas, or like you know, like I
understand, like the west coastgolf, but like the east coast
golf is a whole nother animal.
There was like so many hiddengems out there that we've
(49:10):
probably never even heard ofthat are just tucked away in the
trees behind walmart.
You know, like you can't seeanything there because it's all
flat and it's it's behind that.
If you, if you didn't know itwas there, you wouldn't know it
was there.
You know, because it's hidden,you can't see beyond the horizon
and it's there's something doperight behind those trees.
(49:30):
So I love, uh, east coast golfand I want to play more of it.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
All right, we're going to take our break and we
will be right back.
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Speaker 2 (50:17):
Ooh hey, did you see?
Salty golfer said top hill istobacco road on acid yeah, I saw
that yeah and then joe fromlofty was in the chat, that's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
So, joe, click on joe from lofty, make sure you're
following him chapman.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Rob chapman said that too, didn't he, didn't you say
something about?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
that's just.
I mean, that's crazy that'scrazy, though, because tobacco
road looks so more madprofessory to me, and I think
that might be one of the greatthings, though that tot hill is
like it in any video or anythingI've seen, it doesn't reveal
too much, yeah, you know, andand any video I watched on true
(50:58):
blue does not do true blue anyjustice at all.
This is true drone footage orwhatever, but all right.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
What's that music?
Did you say something youcreated in the lab today, matt,
that's feeding the duck baby,quack, quack, quack that that
was doing acid earlier today Ifound this the on stream song.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
They've got some free music that you can play and I
was, like some of them are justlike bad, like nobody ever will
ever play that on anything, andI found this little gem.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'm like sounds pretty soul gulf for me.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
New ringtone and it's called feeding the ducks.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Quack, motherfucker, quack, quack yeah that, that it
is pretty dope.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I do like it I do like it, it's gonna.
I think, dan, I think you'reright, I'm to have to make that
a ringtone Anyways.
So, jeremy, you, jeremy is here.
If anybody's just listening, heis actually here on the show
tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, you were down in Scottsdale a little family
trip with with with the family.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
And you stopped in at new level.
I did saw dock and uh well, oh,wasn't playing, wasn't really
planned.
Um, I did bring my clubs and Idrove by so many courses and I
named them all but I didn't playany of them.
So I need to definitely go back.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
But we drove down to southern dunes because I can't
believe you were there anddidn't I know, I know for real
and you had your clubs with youI had my clubs, but I didn't
know.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
You didn't have anything to do drove to southern
dunes and didn't play.
Yeah, I had lunch.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's not like.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's like driving it's not a bad drive, it was
only like he's a bit, he's a bigdriver guy he's a big driver
driver yeah.
So I didn't mind the drive, butI just wanted to show him
because that only like he's abig, he's a big driver guy, he's
a big driver driver, yeah.
So I didn't mind the drive, butI just wanted to show him
because that's like that'sprobably one of my favorite
courses, so we had lunch.
The patio there is like one ofthe best no, I I promise honey.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Once we get over, the horse smell well yeah it's
beautiful yeah, so that was,that was cool.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
But yes, I did.
I reached out to doc.
It was like 9 30 at night onFriday night.
I'm like, hey, you're probablynot going to be open tomorrow,
but if you are, can I come by?
He's like I'm not going to bethere but I have a tee time I
can meet you before.
So he was going to go play.
So he met me there early in themorning Saturday and I just
wanted to check it out because Iknow you guys went and you said
(53:33):
how cool the studio was and theshop and all that.
And I wanted to see the new 702irons because I sort of fell in
love with them when I saw thema couple months ago, went in,
hit them they're amazing inperson, felt so good and got
them.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And just got them.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
It was an easy sell BNLG, BNLG, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
So Doc is awesome and got him so and just it was a.
It was an easy sell it wasn't abnlg, bnlg yeah, doc is awesome
.
That was the first time I methim in person, but oh, really
yeah, doc's the man.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, yeah, he knows his stuff.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
It was cool.
What was that?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I got a 702 cbs in the four andfive and a six through wedge in
the mbs.
But they do have the 702 plus,which I possibly will get in,
like the four, iron or something.
Order another one, because it'sa little bit more forgiving,
but there's, all of them arereally similar in size.
(54:30):
There's no, it's not liketitleist or tailor-made how you
progressively get much larger.
They're all so good I think youwill all be impressed with them
.
I should get them this week,though.
That's why I wanted to playSunday, but I might have to do
some indoor golf or somethingWe'll have a golf stop session.
(54:55):
Yeah, they're pretty sweet,though he was talking to me.
I'm not the biggest nerd whenit comes to equipment like specs
and technology, but they'rethey.
They're packed full ofinteresting things into a small
little package and they wereworking out really well for me.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
so very, very one year in our clubs.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, yep, and I mean the price.
It's hard to beat too.
So yeah, but they're doing morecustomization.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
The ferals and the you know all the extra stuff, so
yeah, did you pick up anytruths while you were there?
Speaker 5 (55:29):
um no, but I did find the ones that are spiked, which
I I'm a fan of spiked and theyhe had a couple pairs of those
which I love, so I don't thinkthey're out yet.
They've been.
They were supposed to be outearlier this last year yeah and
they've just kept pushing themand, pushing them and but yeah,
I really like them off to sendyou a picture.
I don't know, I'm sure you'veseen them, but yeah, tons of
(55:52):
good shoes.
I didn't try any on I.
It was nice to see him inperson, though, because I have a
really hard time choosing whichones I want because there's so
many and you guys have all ofmine.
It's hard to see, yeah, so itwas cool to see all of them and
definitely gonna order.
Ordered a couple already,actually, so just waiting for
those spiked ones uh, so the?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
or did you go to Putting World or no?
Speaker 5 (56:19):
No, we didn't go to Putting World.
It was right by where we stayed, though.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I think it's right by New Level yeah it's right
around the corner, it's justdown the street, yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:29):
Yeah, we didn't go there, but good food.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Did you hit that In-N-Out right there?
Speaker 5 (56:35):
No, yes, we did.
Yes, it's great right, it's thebest.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
That's like the best in and out I've ever been to but
it was so busy.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
I mean they're all busy.
It took like 45 minutes, 45minutes.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, a 45-minute wait.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
We didn't eat in there.
We went through thedrive-thruru and it was not a
short line.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
That is the best In-N-Out I've ever ate at.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
They opened one up in Boise and it was like a
six-hour drive-thru.
Speaker 5 (57:07):
It was the same in Utah when they did it.
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
It's a fucking burger people.
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
Even here now, every In-N and out is you're gonna be
there for at least 15 minutesthe one on saint rose is
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
There's never not a line there, it's.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
We got a lot of them, but that is the best in and out
I've ever been to, so shout out, scott still I will say this
because it's close in and out.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
That better buzz coffee.
That just opened up.
That's in the holy shit, thatis good coffee I do want to try
it, but I'm not waiting in linefor coffee oh no, I I I.
There was nobody in line when Iwent the other day oh, the
hype's that down okay yeah, Imean when it first opened up you
couldn't get in the parking lot.
It was so, yeah, much of a line.
(57:51):
But yeah, there was one carthat pulled forward as I pulled
in.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
So I thought that was a Vegas local thing, but we saw
one in Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yes, it's from California.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Oh man, I was impressed.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Seven brews bro.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
It was really good, that's all.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
I got.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
You guys got anything else.
Anything else you want to talkabout, all right, I tell you
this.
Since nobody's got anythingelse, I'll just I'll blab this
out.
So I, I am working on somethingthat I'm trying to I don't know
formulate or try to puttogether.
I'm going to reach out to JohnSherman from sweet spot golf,
(58:36):
because he's a golf mental coachand and see if he has any ideas
on this.
But because I know you guys allplay golf differently.
Joe with a soul, soul golf.
Dan, you know you're a greatplayer and you've played
competitively.
Jeremy, great player, youplayed, you know high school, um
, and me as a, you know a scrubthat is refined and and I'm a
(58:57):
good player now and and statjunkie, mind, blah, blah.
But I, I've noticed something inmy life when things happen that
are when streaks are involved,how much more focused you get
when a streak is involved, notnecessarily just with golf, I'm
talking with anything like um,um, you know, when I when back
(59:19):
going 10 years, when I wasrunning every day, it was like I
had built up this streak ofrunning.
You know I, I was 10 days in arow and it's like, oh, I'm going
to go, cause I don't, I'm on astreak.
I'm on a streak and it justmade it easier.
And as that street got bigger,the desire to not do it because
(59:39):
you were going to end the streakbecame more than what you were
doing.
So like for me right now withalcohol.
You know I'm on two years noalcohol.
It's a hell of a streak.
I don't have any desire to drinkanymore but like the desire the
desire to continue the streakis kind of taken over my desire
to not drink yeah so with hasthat ever happened to you with
(01:00:02):
golf?
because I was talking about itwith kenzie because she's
helping me with this foodnutrition thing right now.
Um that you know last year Ihad a streak of 11 rounds in the
70s.
I'd never done that before.
You know, I think I had maybeback-to-back rounds in the 70s
once or twice in my life, soputting together 11 in a row it
was, and it changed the way Iwas playing golf because I was a
(01:00:25):
little bit more focused onplaying a little bit more of a
strategic game out there and notnot going for the hero shots
and, you know know, playing itsafe a little bit, but I was
posting good scores and thestreak was a part of that.
So I was curious if you guyshave ever had a streak any, not
necessarily in golf, butanything that has really like
(01:00:48):
changed you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I mean like if I mean if I was doing like when
I've done the gym, you know, andI'm like like, well, I can't
miss today.
I've been going every day fortwo weeks.
Yeah, of course there's streaks, but you know, I'm on a I'm on
a big streak of not caring aboutthe golf shot and hitting the
funnest shot that I can, and I'mgonna hit the funnest shot I
(01:01:15):
can.
So I'm on a streak of hittingthe most ridiculous shot.
I potentially can not pullingit off all the time, but I'm on
a streak not playing thesmartest shot you can, but
playing the funnest shot you can.
So that's a big streak.
I got going on right now likewhen we were at charleston uni I
(01:01:35):
told you I had a shot and I waslike I don't know if I can get
over these trees, but if I, if Ijust lay up over here there's
that little window there andjulian goes.
Well, you know, it'd be coolvideos if you just try and hit
it under that branch, which waslike five feet off the ground,
and just hit a little drawstinger up there, that'd be a
cool video.
I was like he's like, but youprobably don't want to do that.
(01:01:57):
I was like, yes, I do, that'sthe funnest shot that we can do
right now.
So I did it, I pulled it off andit ended up on the green, which
was super sick so I'm on a bigstreak on hitting the funnest
shots I can and I I willcontinue to hit the funnest
shots I can, because I'm on astreak right now.
They don't always turn up, butI'll continue doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But I do agree.
If you got something going andyou're working towards something
, yes, you are correct.
If you're going to the gymevery day, every day, every day,
every day, you feel worseskipping a day than you do going
.
So I do completely understandit and that's the thing you got
to get in that groove.
Once you're in that groove,you're done like, just like dan
(01:02:47):
dan.
Dan slipped up a couple timesbut you know he picked it right
back up and he's streaking.
Right now he's through the,through the gymnasium, into the
quad.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Dan is streaking all the way, yeah he's doing it he's
streaking.
Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Jeremy, you've had anything like that um, I was
trying to think like severalyears ago, before I moved here,
I, I, I sort of was committingto practicing, uh, hitting the
range, hitting the, you know,short game area, and I think I
was like a month or two monthsof every day.
I spent time practicing.
And you definitely know likenow I don't practice very much,
(01:03:27):
but when I do I can tellimmediately that it's a huge
benefit, and not only justmaking reps but just working on
specific little things.
But but yeah, a couple, severalyears ago I would practice
every single day and my scoresreflected it played in the state
am tournament a couple years ina row.
But it's hard to get back intothat.
(01:03:47):
But I think really it's justcommitting and actually doing it
because it's you mean, once youstart something like that just
like stopping drinking, going tothe gym, eating better,
whatever it is is the hardestpart is starting, because once
you're on, the street.
It's just coasting through andand building up.
So yeah, probably practicing Iwould love.
Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I would love to figure out what, what it is that
you know, clicks in your, thatthat makes you think differently
, because a streak is involved,you know, and is.
Is anybody able to tap intothat mindset not on a streak and
have that positive influence onwhat you're doing without a
(01:04:30):
streak being involved?
It's, I'm, it's just.
I love, I love how the mind yeah, I love how the mind works and
I love how the mind works and Ilove how you can trick your own
self, because there's nodifference.
It's just because something ishappening.
Your mind is in a differentplace.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I will say Jeremy was on a very big streak and now
he's on a new streak streak.
And now he's on a new streak.
Jeremy was on a big titleiststreak for years.
Now he broke that streak andnow he's on a streak against a
titleist, Switching balls.
Switching irons, he'srediscovering his stuff.
(01:05:15):
I've always had a ping bag.
Yeah, I know, but you've you'vehad ping bag is a streak, yeah
yeah, I see, but I don't think Ithink there's anything wrong
about breaking a streak if itcreates new, yeah, areas for you
to learn, like jeremy'slearning along this process
because he broke his title ofstreak and he's going to figure
(01:05:38):
out more about himself in thelong run breaking the streak,
and he'll know if he wants to goback to that streak of being
Titleist.
And I think that's under theclouds where you can learn as
well.
You know, I don't think there'snothing wrong with breaking
streaks, but you learn a lotfrom yourself if you break a
(01:05:58):
streak as well.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Oh, absolutely you do .
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I'm just gonna leave that there leave it there.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
All right, streak talk over.
All right, it's gonna do it forthis week's show.
Thank everybody.
Uh, thank you all for tuning in.
Um, we'll be back next weekwith another show.
Joe, do your thing.
And oh, did you look with theodds there?
Do you want to?
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
do the odds.
Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
We got the american express, the first tournament in
the in the in the continentalstates, yeah I was, I was
thinking about the sorry aboutthe fires and how it was going
to affect riviera, because Ikept watching those maps with
the evacuations and it'sactually inside the fire zone,
(01:06:41):
but it sounds like everything's.
It wasn't affected at all, sohopefully it'll still happen.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Much prayers to the people out there.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, shout out to everybody that is dealing with
some shit.
I mean, you know, it's a toughgo.
Yeah, that is really shitty.
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Kevin Furness was like he's been posting.
You know, anybody needsanything, need a place to stay.
I got an extra room.
You need any food.
I know people, I mean it's,it's, I feel, 10-year-old boys,
it's correct, it's a dopaminehit.
It's awesome what you knowcommunity, how community helps
in times like this.
So you know community, howcommunity helps in times like
(01:07:21):
this.
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
So it's absolutely devastating what's going on
there.
Yeah, crazy shit man.
Odds got odds.
Yeah, uh.
The amex, uh.
Palm springs.
Sudden jm is your favorite at12 to 1.
Just thomas, 12 to 1, alongwith sam burns, patrick, uh,
slow ass.
Cantlay.
14-1.
Tony fina 22-1.
Kurt kittayama 25-1, along withwyndham clark, max uh,
(01:07:41):
gracerman.
Tom kim 28-1.
Davis thompson, cameron young35-1.
Siwu kim, harry, uh, siwu kim's40-1.
Harry hall at 45 to one.
Shout out harry nick dunlap.
45 to one is.
Did nick dunlap win the?
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
he won this one last year, yeah zal torres 55 to 1.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Jj spawn 61.
Jason day 60 to 1.
Let's look for some.
Cam davis 40, 75 to 1.
Ricky fowler 90 to 1.
Nick taylor 90 to 1.
Doug gimm 100 to one.
Go all the way down to thebottom.
Is there someone you're likelooking for, or what?
Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
blades brown what's kyle mendoza?
Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
oh, is he playing in this?
Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
yeah, yep, kyle's at the bottom.
Uh, what is that plus?
Five thousand one, fivethousand one I 5,001.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
5,001, I think $5 on.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Commandoza $5 wins 25 Gs.
Let's go, Comm.
Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
All of us do that, and then we'll go to South
Carolina next week.
I just put it in.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Let's go Commandoza.
What is this?
It's G186.
That's the name, right here,G186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
2,500 to 1 g 186, that's the name that's right
here.
How drunk are you?
Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I'm not fucking kidding, dude g 186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I don't know where am I.
I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Hey, it's all blurry oh there it, there it is Golfer
number 186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That's wild.
Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
It's probably the alternate, because Shoffley
popped out, so it's probably thealternate.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
That's Elon Musk's other kid.
That's X42L hyphen.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Let's go, kyle Mendoza.
Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Let's go, kyle did you see blades brown on there?
Did you see blades brown?
Was he on there?
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
um, there's a lot of players that are low oh, blades
brown 501 17 year old.
Phenom turn pro his firstname's blades.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Huh oh, he's elite, oh he's elite blades, brown
travis, matthew calloway.
Yeah, 17, good lord room forkyle.
Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Mendoza over blades brown oh, absolutely, absolutely
sorry blades is he?
Oh, he did good at the.
Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
He did good on the corporate last year he was,
didn't he to get week, is he?
Oh, he did good at the.
He did good on the corn prairie.
Last year he was, didn't he Toget status.
Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
He won twice or something like that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Interesting.
It's always a fun one to watch.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Julie and I are going to be out at Summit on Friday
and then then Los prados onsaturday yeah, you get to see
los prados finally, yeah uh itwas just for years and years and
years and years ago.
So of course, yeah, um, we'llbe playing visiting summit
(01:10:53):
what's that?
Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Is this your first time visiting Summit?
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Is this your?
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
first time visiting Summit.
It'd be my first time on theproperty.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Yeah, You're going to love the practice area.
Oh, I've seen it from space.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
It's amazing, yeah, the range is dope.
It's amazing, yeah, it is dopeLooking forward to that.
Hey, shout out Cliff tuning in.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Hey Cliff, you need to go see True Blue, you need to
go play True Blue next timeyou're there.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
You won't regret it, All right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Joe, take us home.
Hey, thanks for tuning in thisepisode of Chasing the Daylight
Podcast, number 308, which iscrazy, shout out to everybody
that listened last weekend.
We got a bump in downloads lastweek, so that was awesome to
see, and continue sharing theshow.
If you have any topics ordiscussions you want to post and
have us talk about, send it ourway.
We are here and until next week.
(01:11:44):
We will catch you later.
Thank you, you.
This is Harry Hall and you're listening to the
Chasing Daylight Podcast.
This is Harry Hall and you'relistening to the Chasing
Daylight Podcast.
Hey, what is up everybody?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Chasing Daylight Podcast and
congrats to Harry Hall on hissecond top 10 of the season.
Off to a banging start.
(00:36):
He's actually in the Comcasttop 10 right now, so congrats to
him on a killer start to thenew year.
Golf is back in the mainlandthis week.
Joe, jot this down.
Let's do the odds near the endof the show, like we used to.
We haven't done that in a longtime, so maybe some people might
find that entertaining.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
As again, let's see if they got them up.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I mean, should it's the.
Amex.
I saw them on ESPN already, sothey should be up there.
So thanks everybody for tuningin.
We're live on YouTube, we arelive on X and we are live on
Instagram.
Already got some people poppingon there Sports Dad 1, golf Ho.
Thank you all for tuning in,also real quick.
(01:18):
Want to thank the Golf Stop fortheir continued support for the
show Roars Golf out in Miami.
The man, the legend, uh, themyth, all of those things.
And uh, las vegas goldsuperstore, along with scott
russo from unwritten law,because we do love that harmonic
intro hey fellas, how's, it?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
going great cold going well joe dan you a little
tired yes, I am, yeah, dan gotmonday to just chill.
I think I did not so nice, nice, did you?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
uh, how was the flyback?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
everything okay, no issues, no delays, nothing I
mean you might need to ask danthat one, but I mean it was fine
we, uh, we had a little delay,but yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Uh, it was a crazy flight back home.
Everybody fell asleep and theflight attendant just took a
liking to me.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was a flight attendant.
She picked him out of the crowd, right off the bat man.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Julian did not tell me it was a flight attendant.
I thought he made it sound likeit was a passenger.
Oh no, wow, oh, so were you upthere earning some frequent
flyer miles.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I didn't earn anything really, but she was
cool, so I fell asleep right andI had one and a half beers.
Did you pay for my beers?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
No, okay, so shout out to her, you free beers yeah,
she must open up for you nice,nice, all right so you guys go
good together, they go goodtogether you guys got back from
south carolina, we'll, we'll betalking about that.
Uh, the sony open took place.
So he said here he got a top 10in haw for the final event in
(03:04):
Hawaii, went to the firstplayoff of the season.
That was kind of exciting.
The new gear from Callaway'shitting stores Got my elite hat
being displayed in the greenelite background.
I didn't know Joe was reppingthe elite stuff as well already.
So respect, respect Jeremy onhis trip can.
(03:26):
If you're watching on instagramor youtube or x, you can see
he's rocking some new headwearbecause he was, uh, down in
scottsdale visited.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, new level, true facility with doc for a little
bit and, uh, I hung out with Docfor a little bit, and Titleist
just lost another player.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Yeah, it did, Wow wow .
Speaker 1 (03:48):
So we'll be talking about that.
And then today I was chattingwith somebody from Crank Golf.
We're going to have LanceReeder, the owner, the man
behind Crank Golf, is going tocome on.
We're going to have aninterview with him and talk
about all the things thatthey're doing with all the
success that they have had, andthat should be a fun episode.
(04:14):
I I love talking gear withpeople, so, and then, uh, roars
and I we haven't recorded awhile, our schedule just haven't
jived lately, but he's beengetting all the new stuff in.
Uh, you know, I I'm dealingmainly with Callaway, he's
dealing with all of it, andwe've got some great
conversation pieces that we wantto start mainly revolving
around from the fitterstandpoint, not the player
standpoint, the fitterstandpoint, the new cog on the
(04:38):
Cobra drivers that has 32different adjustable settings.
So we we will be talking aboutthat.
I will say this absolutelybrilliant from a fitting
standpoint.
Absolutely horrible thatthey're allowing people to take
those off the shelf.
buy them and take them home souh yeah, word said uh, yeah, I'm
(04:59):
going to be ordering them, it'sgoing to come in, I'm going to
super glue the adapter in placeand ship it.
Nobody needs to have that muchadjustability, that's a lot.
That's just too much, you knowwhat.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
In a previous life, though, matt, I think you would
have thrived having that manyoptions.
The Tinkertown would be.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Hey, I will tell you I would have gone nuts on it and
it would have really fuckedwith me.
Because I mean with that, ifyou don't know what is causing
what, or why what is happening,you can have a hundred changes
on there and none of it's goingto work for you because you have
(05:46):
no idea.
You know, unless you hit thecenter of the face with every
ball strike.
I, I think callaway has toomany options on theirs because
you know, there's just, there'ssome things that don't need
changing, as some people swingsor some people swings, and it's
not going to change.
So it's.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's nice that we have options, but it's good for
some people, I would think, butuh, terrible for others.
But uh, like, you know, likethe the callaway, uh hosel is is
nice, I mean it's easy toremember.
Like, especially if you take agolf trip, take off your head,
you know, you know what it's atyou know, like if you take a
(06:24):
golf trip, take off your head,you know, you know what it's at.
Yeah, you know like, even for me, with my five wood and the
tailor-made hosel, I know I'mlike one to the right of
standard loft, so but if there'slike options that aren't
labeled, like you know and yougo on a trip man, that you
definitely gotta take picturesof your settings before, when
you gotta, when you gotta, bringa pdf with you to yeah exactly
(06:45):
open up to make sure you have iton the right.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I don't know it.
Just, it just seems like yousaid overkill a little bit.
But hey, you never know, younever know.
Uh, tgl had their second weekjust wrapped up earlier.
The start time threw everybodyfor a little bit of a curve big
beef.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I got big beef with that yeah, I figured you would.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I know I posted that and you're like it's already on
and I'm like oh shit, he didn'tI.
I found it by accident, so Ijust thought I was in the, not
knowing that it was coming on atfour instead of six our time,
which I mean.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I also think it's a big miss for them too.
Like you know.
Like you know they, they hadgreat ratings last week.
Uh, the ratings were higherthan something else.
I can't remember, but I sawstats, but I mean you got you
got tiger for the first time ontgl and you start it before the
west coast is done, working witha typical business day.
(07:39):
Yeah, you know, um, some peopleget off earlier.
You know, of course, but youcan't.
You can't do that the firsttime tiger is showing up to the
tgl.
You can't start it before five.
You can't do that.
And if that's the case youshould have done, you should
have started tiger last week atsix pm, prime time.
(07:59):
It's only two hours.
So like 8 pm, uh, eastern 5 pm,start on the west coast is.
It's perfect timing.
The east coast is done by betterthan four yeah, I mean, what
the hell is up with seven likeoh, they got to get home for the
10 pm news or something, and onthe east coast I don't know.
But yeah, that was bad.
(08:19):
I think that was a big miss ontheir part big miss.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So they'll see what happens with the reading.
So I don't know if they'regoing.
You know we didn't get as muchaudience on the east coast
because it started later.
So let's flip it this week andsee what happens.
But I think they're going tolose a lot of west coast
viewership.
So I don't know, maybe they'relike well, there's, you know.
No, I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, if they want to get ratings, I mean they have
to cater to both coasts, youknow.
I mean I know that theyprobably don't care about the
West Coast, but if they wantratings, they need it.
It needs to be 8 pm Easternstart and it needs to be
consistent.
It can't be.
Last week was 6 pm West Coaststart, 9 pm Eastern.
If they want to make this work,it needs to be consistent.
I mean, it's it's not like, youknow, football, where people
(09:06):
are going to watch regardlessand it's on the weekends.
You know, this is a tuesdaynight where people got things
going on.
So it's like, make itconsistent, don't change your
fucking times.
Because I was expecting like tograb the kids, get their dinner
ready and then they starteating and then 6 pm I throw on
tgl and I get to watch whilethey eat.
You know, yeah, that was a bigcurveball.
(09:28):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I didn't like that at all I'm wondering if it has
anything to do with likescheduling um yeah, because
they're having a basketball gameor something tonight, exactly,
yeah, that espn already had, youknow, committed to cover, so
they're like, guess what youknow?
Tgl is going to be in the fouro'clock slot.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, Duke, miami was on.
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
It's a terrible, terrible time to play such a big
, big name match like that, youknow, with Tiger's debut in it.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
But another blowout.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, another blowout .
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Another blowout.
Let's talk about how pedestrianKisner lived tonight.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Blading in the back and then flagstick if he's lucky
that could have been in thecrowd he's getting used to that
uh, that uh booth.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You know that announcer's booth living
comfortable up in there whenthey were interviewed, tiger and
he's like that thing was rising, it was gonna hit somebody yeah
, for sure but, it was good tosee them being like friends and
playing though like oh yeah I, Ido think in that aspect it was
better than last week's in theyou know trash talk, uh,
(10:33):
personality aspect a little bitbetter personalities.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It was nice to see justin rose having a little fun
out there, because he always hasseemed like a stuffy neck guy.
It was great seeing Saheeth outthere.
Kisner's great Han was great.
Tiger is Hanma who said Hanma,max, hanma, max, hanma.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Did he create Hanma Max?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Homa.
I'm sorry, homa, he's a Homa,so it was nice seeing their
banter.
They have a little bit morepersonalities.
We'll see what happens.
I don't know.
Tiger, I think when he's on thecourse he's a little bit better
than when he's off the course,because him in the booth last
week was not good and he hasn'talways been particularly great
(11:18):
at the genesis I, I mean, I dothink that you know, like, of
course, tiger didn't play up tohis standards, that we think he
should, but I think it was justcool to see them in a relaxed
atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean, it's, it's not real golf, it's simulator
golf, like kisner was, like Iflushed that one and it was like
10 yards short.
You know, yeah, yeah, that'sthe same thing we've done at
five iron, so it's relatable,which I enjoy you know, so is it
?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
joe from lofty?
Is that the account that's oninstagram?
You guys follow him at all uh,he made a post.
I think that's what I'll have tolook and see uh, he made a post
earlier today uh, after tgl andhe was saying that you know
when you're watching a PGA Tourevent on the weekends unless
you're watching PGA Tour live,but the casual viewing fan that
(12:10):
flips on NBC at 2 o'clock in theafternoon watching they're
highlighting the leaders, theguys that are tearing it up.
They're not looking at theperson that is at the bottom of
the field, and so you're seeingelite players playing elite golf
.
Well, now you have six guys andif someone's struggling, guess
(12:31):
what, they're getting televised,and so he said it's.
He thinks that you know,potentially it could be a
viewership problem, that peoplearen't going to get behind
watching guys struggle.
Whereas he said and I agree, Ilove watching pros struggle.
Because it makes me relate tothem a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
We're never going to match bank accounts.
We certainly can match HouselRockets in a bunker, greenside,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So we'll have to see Uh-oh Hot take Tiger walking out
to Eye of the tiger was a bitcringy I didn't catch that
because I didn't know what timeit started, but uh, I gotta
assume that that might be a bitcringy yeah, when I turned it on
they were, uh, getting ready tohit, but everybody was talking
about the tiger.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Entrance was electric , so I was, but you know, I have
the tiger.
Tiger, come on.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
That makes sense I did see the meme where it was
like the, the haze and the fogand he's walking out and it's
like there's red lights and hislike eyes are a little low and
it's like me back in 10th gradein the back seat in my friend's
car yeah, uh, I can relate I canrelate yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
We'll see if that happens.
Uh, I mean, oh, can't wait forthe first tgo crash out.
Yeah, I, I can't wait for, youknow, a ball in the stands.
That's going to be fantastic,it's bound to happen.
And then, oh, there's going tobe nets now all the way around.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, and you said you sent the ticket prices too.
Do you think that it did?
Was that for tonight's?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
match.
What did it say?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I don't remember, but I just saw that and went wow.
Yeah, I mean it was $846.
I think there's not a lot ofseats in the place but I mean,
for the first time tiger showingup, I could see.
I could see that price.
You know, it's like if lebroncomes to, comes to see the
indiana pacers or something like, the tickets are probably going
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to be higher on resale caitlinclark coming and playing the
aces.
Oh, let's move the arena tot-mobile, where it fits 17 000
yeah, I mean I'm curious to seewhere that goes, because they
don't have a lot of seats inthat building.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
No, this was down in section 118, row WC1, $876.
That's insane.
That was a tweet fromMondayQInfo.
He's like no, I don't want toplay in the TGL, I just want to
watch.
And it shows the ticket pricesat $876 each, which is that's as
much as the Ryder Cup isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah.
Yeah, $750 for the Ryder Cup,which they did.
They did earlier this weekright T's expansion to Las Vegas
.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yes, Phoenix Vegas.
And what was the other one?
Did they say in that?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Was it Seattle or something like that?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Maybe Seattle, yeah, so you know, we got the space
for it.
We do.
I mean they're not going toconvert the sphere, because
that's.
I mean that would be awesome,but that's not going to happen.
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy.
(15:47):
You know all I got?
They got all that room behindthe uh paris.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
You know where they have, uh, the battle bots, yeah,
and formula shout out jared.
Are they talking about, likebuilding a whole facility, or is
it just a team from vegas?
Speaker 2 (16:01):
oh, I don't know yeah , that's what I didn't know for
sure.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So oh well, if it's a , I mean, why would you hype up
a team expansion because there'sno?
Just hey, we're gonna add moreplayers.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Just do that you know , yeah, like if you want a team.
I mean, like you know, theteams don't make sense already.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Anyway, yeah, because if we get, if we get you know
some golfers I can't stand thataren't even from Vegas.
Now you fill it with all theUNLV guys that are playing on
tour Harry Hall, Ryan Moore.
Harry, Ryan Moore, TaylorMontgomery.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Or.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Kitayama.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Kitayama.
Hey, yeah, that's a Vegas team.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I can get behind that .
Speaker 1 (16:38):
All coming out there wearing Rebel Red?
Yeah, that would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Or live here.
It's something Colin Steak andXander Steak and Kevin Na is not
getting a piece of that.
No, scott Piercy.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
We'll see what happens with that.
Did you guys watch any of theSony Open?
A little bit Not much.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You guys were in South Carolinaolina so you
really don't care yeah, you weretraveling, jerry, I was a
homebody, I had nobody to goplay golf with and sat at home
and watch tv.
No, it was pretty good it was.
It was.
It was a good tournament.
You know, I was rooting forharry there and he got it to 15
under.
I think he was a couple off andthen had a couple whole stretch
(17:26):
where just kind of fell off anduh didn't didn't finish as
strong as he could have.
But hey, like I said, anothertop 10 had to play off with uh,
nick, taylor and Nico or howeveryou say his last name.
That was fun to see.
Glad the Hawaii swing is over,because what's the guy's name
(17:50):
that's there, that lives inHawaii?
That's, I cannot standlistening to him commentary
because every shot is a bad shot.
Oh, that's a poor shot from him.
Oh, that's a poor shot.
He's really going to be upset.
Oh, that's a portion.
Every freaking shot that's notwithin four feet of the pin.
Oh, that's a bad shot.
He's really going to be upsetwith himself, for that's a bad.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's like good lord dude, go back to maui yeah, but
don't you think that's like anissue with a lot of golf, when
you play with people that aren'tup to your skill level, skill
level or you're below theirskill level, you know?
I mean, I feel that way.
Sometimes I mean, I'm not agreat golfer, but you know if
(18:31):
I'm, I plan on hitting the greenand you know if I'm just short
or something like that, I'mplaying with someone I don't
play with often and they're like, hey, no, that was a good shot
because it's uh, he, obviouslythat commentator is not a good
golfer.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So well, I just don't think he's a better golfer than
they are I just don't thinkevery shot needs to come out
with oh that was a poor shot.
He's really going to be upsetwith that because definitely,
yeah.
So maybe he didn't hit itwithin the tour average to 15
feet, but okay, maybe the liewasn't exactly perfect, maybe
(19:06):
there was a gust of wind, maybehe caught a little fat.
You know, it's like god man,it's just.
It doesn't have to be bad abouteverything.
He's just a pessimist, I guessI don't know, it was just.
I was like put it on mute andjust listen to some tf still in
the background.
I was watching it because Ijust can't stay elusive to dibs.
All right, let's get into yourtrip.
(19:29):
Let's hear about it.
Everybody's interested.
I was bummed because four of myclosest friends are on a golf
trip and I'm getting no content.
None, I'm refreshing the app.
I'm like what the hell app.
I'm like what the hell is goingon.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
so what the hell is going on go ahead, dad, we froze
out pretty much day one.
We uh get a call the nightbefore we're supposed to tee off
saying hey, we know you got atee time at eight, but just to
let you know, you know we'vebeen having frost delays and
we've been sending people outabout 10, 30, 11 o'clock.
(20:07):
So get on the horn later in thenext morning to call them to
see what the delay is going tobe like.
And the guy's like, yeah, letme find out.
Once we talk to thesuperintendent, you know, we'll
let you know.
Calls back about 20 minuteslater.
Yeah, you guys are shit out ofluck.
We're closing the course today,which?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
course was that one.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That was True Blue.
True Blue was the first yeah,was the first one and then we
were supposed to play Caledoniain the afternoon.
So we hit up Caledonia and theypretty much told us that they
don't see it getting much warmerand that they're going to shut
it down too.
So day one was a complete loss.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But we also called.
So we also called TPC MyrtleBeach and Prestwick, which were
supposed to be played the nextday, and they kind of gave us a
little run around like hey, Imean it's possible, blah, blah,
blah.
So like up until 12, we're justtrying to find a golf course
that's open for the day you know, just to go play golf and not
go stir crazy in the house.
(21:11):
Um, dude at tbc myrtle beach Ithink his name was brian legend,
that dude was awesome.
Um, we prepaid for that roundand he's gonna send us some rain
checks because that wasactually for Saturday, right?
But you know we you know Treyasked like what do you guys want
(21:33):
to play?
And you know I said True Blueis number one, caledonia is
number two.
So we had to move True Blue andCaledonia because that was our
first day which they closed thecourses, and caledonia because
that was our first day whichthey closed the courses.
We moved those to saturday.
And tpc myrtle beach andpressed wick, which is a pbp dye
design.
Um was saturday, so we justcanceled that as well.
(21:54):
And they had, uh, trey's creditcard on file and the dude was
really cool there too.
I can't remember his name, buthe canceled it for us.
No charge, nice.
But yeah, we went.
We were a little.
We went to publics two or threetimes on friday, just to get out
of the house we were hitting,uh ping pong balls into fucking
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coffee cups and trying to make,uh, you know, mini golf holes in
the house.
Uh, on friday, because andthere was no smoking in the
front, no smoking in the back,so it's raining a little bit.
We're walking half block downthe street, uh, just to go hang
out.
And uh, yeah, it was.
(22:35):
Uh, that friday was prettyrough, wow and it wasn't even
that bad, though that's thething.
We were in the public and we'restanding in the parking lot and
I'm like this is fucking nice.
And Julian kept asking me.
He's like, would you play golfin this?
Yes, of course I'd play golf inthis.
You know, it wasn't bad at all,it was actually very nice.
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I mean, there was no wind,there was like a little gentle
drizzle.
I think they were just scaredof what could happen and it
never came.
Personally, I don't think thecourses were froze, because the
next day the you know tea wouldgo down all the way, down all
the way down.
Yeah, so first day pretty suck,pretty bad the tray by his
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gallon of ice tea from publics.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
No, I think you skipped that one.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, okay, but you did get the chicken tender sub,
got it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, we also had, we definitely went to more grocery
stores than we did.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Golf courses on this trip, hey.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Julian giving you much props.
Dan said you stuck to the fooddiet.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
I did.
Yeah, my mind is set food diet.
I did.
When my mind is set onsomething, I'm locked in, I'm
right there with you.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Except when it comes to vaping.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
My mind was never set .
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I set my mind.
Somebody was trying to set hismind.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
We went and bought cards from Publix.
We were playing cards, we had aping pong match because there
was a ping pong table in thegarage.
That was actually a lot of fun.
That was fun.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
yeah, joe's nuts with a ping pong battle, bro.
I didn't realize that.
Joe's over there, just likehe's freaking national champion
forrest gump over there, justhitting these nasty little
cutters and shit like damn joe,I can shape it on the ping pong
table.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I can shape it, I hit draws low fingers.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, he's hitting power cuts with a serve and shit
it's so funny when I when Iplay pickleball with the wife.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I, because I I'm the same way with ping pong.
I'm the same way as I was thesame way when I played tennis.
And it's like she gets so madbecause I'll do this backspin
liner that just stops when ithits the ground and you can
never pull that off with.
You know people that know whatthe hell they're doing when they
play pickleball, but it's funjust messing around with it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah yeah, but it was .
I mean, all in all it was.
It was a good trip.
We made the most out of it.
Um, even though friday all thecourses were closed, it was.
It was good to uh hang out, youknow, have a little.
The house was great.
The airbnb was great.
It wasn't a trailer on the sideof a state highway in the
middle of nowhere next to adollar general, um, but yeah,
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saturday, uh.
So we changed friday's twotimes to true blue, caledonia,
no, frosted.
Late saturday played true bluein the morning, caledonia in the
afternoon, which that's a wholeother story.
The pro shop guy was like yeah,you know, we can tell you about
that if you want, but um, well,yeah, that's why we're here
yeah, so first of all, we canstart with true blue.
(25:39):
It was a little cold, it waschilly, but it was.
It's doable, it was totallydoable, it wasn't miserable, it
wasn't bad and an incrediblegolf course.
True blue, I could play everysingle day of my life and be
completely happy.
My strands flatter tobacco roadnot as crazy as tobacco road
(26:00):
like so good, yeah, so good istrue, blue a design of his or
did he?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
remodel it?
Did he like?
I was waiting for dan to jumpin, but go ahead, jeremy.
So is true, blue.
Did he actually design it ordid he, like, renovate it?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
yeah.
So mike strance, um, he passedaway too early.
He, he worked under, uh shit,tom fazio.
He worked under tom fazio, uh,for a long time.
He only he died early.
So he only has eight solodesigns.
Um, his first solo design iscaledonia, and then he designed
true blue tobacco road, royalkent, royal new kent, stonehouse
(26:43):
, bulls bay and, uh, the one in,uh, san jose.
I forget the name, but and tothill and thought hill and tot
hill.
So, um, yeah, he died too early.
He also worked on montereypeninsula golf club or uh, cc,
um.
But his first solo design wasCaledonia, and I'm assuming True
(27:06):
Blue is next.
I don't know for sure, but yeah, it's all strands, it's strands
through and through and youknow, this is the third strands
that me and Dan have played, aswell as Juju and Trey, and you
start to see the characteristicspop out on the golf course.
And it was interesting to playhis first golf course that he
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designed in Caledonia, becauseyou can see him trying to find
himself.
It was really fucking cool forme because Caledonia felt
Fazio-esque, but then there wasthese like strands pieces, and
he didn't want to like detourtoo much from where he learned.
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But then you play true blue.
Well, I wish we played.
I wish you played inchronological order, but we
didn't.
But true blue is is tobaccoroad, a flatter tobacco road,
and it was incredible.
Like true blue is so dope, sosick and trey almost hold out on
every, every fucking part.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
What every fucking part what makes it so sick,
though, for people that haven'tplayed one?
I haven't played one, I've justseen pictures it's fun.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
That's the thing.
Like he uses a lot of like thenewer art, newer designers now
using a lot of the natural wildgrasses and using like a lot of
different of the naturalcontours that are there.
But he also puts his littletwist on it, like I'm going to
go ahead and make this part, youknow I'm going to raise this
bump up here and make this overhere a little bit bigger and
(28:38):
more slope on this side, but hemakes it where it's not like
unfair.
He actually built like designslike these huge, like swales and
bumps to actually kind of toyour benefit, cause like there's
a lot of times where you hitinto his green complexes and
you'll see this giant slope, butif you hit it towards that
slope it's going to funneleverything right down towards
the hole.
(28:58):
So he, he, like Joe said, withthe three courses that we played
, with Caledonia being his firstand possibly true blue being
the second, you could, you cantotally see the progression and
the risk that he take, that hetook in building a course like
tobacco road, because when youplay tobacco road and play
caledonia, I mean you both, youget the strands feel on both
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courses, but one is so extremeand the other one is just a lot
more subdued, both fun as hell.
Just he's just.
You can tell that he wasdesigning his golf courses to
have fun on.
He didn't really design them tokick your ass too much.
He was just like, hey, let'stry this.
And then, you know, it came out.
It came out brilliant.
(29:40):
I think he was just.
He's one of the most fun golfcourse designers there is.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Truth, he's one of the most fun golf course
designers there is Truth, isit's still?
Speaker 2 (29:49):
pretty long, isn't it ?
I was Tobacco Road's, notTobacco Road's, not longer.
They had a lot of tee boxesclosed, so it could stretch out
a bit for sure.
That's true, I think Dan'scompletely correct.
And also, playing the templateholes that we saw at Charleston
Muni, you can see how Stranceused the Redan slopes and the
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double plateau slopes to hisadvantage in his mind, how he
thought about a golf coursewhich was so sick.
They call him the maverick.
He's a little different.
He goes against the grain and Imean there's.
I've never played another golfcourse where you drive through
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bunkers, for example, like thecar path is the bunker bunkers,
where the car path, just like attobacco road, you drive through
bunkers, you know the bunker is, you know, a hazard, but you
can lay your club, especially attobacco road.
Nobody rakes any bunkers attobacco road and it's just kind
of like you hit it where you hitit and you find a way to get
out of it and you you play itfrom there and um, a lot of like
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big sandy areas and like theselittle, you know, like round
little pieces of grass that have, like, um, native grasses in
them and like feeding to things,feeding to holes, different pin
positions and it's like, uh,it's like a roller coaster.
It's kind of like it's it's.
You can be creative on his golfcourses.
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That's what I really enjoyliving for the moment yeah,
exactly yeah, that's what he didand I wish he had more moments
to build for us, because he'sonly got eight solos and, uh, it
is definitely a goal of mine toplay all of them.
Yeah, for sure, because he is.
He.
Is he after this trip?
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He moved up like he might.
He could potentially overtakeDoak.
He is number two for mecurrently.
Awesome.
That dude is a brilliant mindin golf course design.
He went against the grain andhe built golf courses for fun.
You can tell that in the design.
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He enjoyed making the golfcourse to play know, and I
really appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I wish he was able to build more gotta take advantage
of the time you got when you'rehere, man, it's the yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
The only bummer about true blue is we started on
number 10 um, so I wish we wouldhave played it to his original
design um 18, which is the ninthhole that we played great
finishing hole you're.
You're hitting into big there'sa big uh lake on the side and
you're hitting into theclubhouse.
But to me I think the frontnine was better than the back
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nine, like the the front ninewhich was our, you know, back
nine was back nine yeah, so sick, like that short par four was
so dope.
That par three with the wateraround it and it looked like a
fucking dumbbell.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, that par five where it just it's literally
like a sea yeah, goes aroundthat big lake so many amazing
golf holes, so many rob says yougot to play todd hill, provided
conditions are good.
It's a dialed up tobacco road.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's almost unfair in some spots, but most fun courts
will ever play yeah todd hillis on the list, um, and after
the, the renovation to strances,original design, that's
definitely on the list, um, youknow.
And then after, uh, after trueblue, we got to play caledonia,
which was his first design andis probably one.
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It is probably the bestentrance to a golf course I've
ever.
Personally, it's definitely amagnolia lane-ish it's super
magnolia, lane-ish man, you,just you, it's like.
It's like probably like aquarter mile just canopy over
the whole drive sick so sickuntil you go into the clubhouse
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and meet old.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
What was his name?
I don't even remember anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So we showed up you showed up at like we just
finished True Blue, we didn'teat anything.
We get over to caledonia and uh, he's like, uh, you know, and
the replay, the, the rates werefantastic, shout out the rates,
um.
But he's like you guys want toplay 9 or 18.
And uh, we're like 18.
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He's like, oh well, uh, yeah, Idon't know like he's like I
don't know what he's trying todo, right, but it sounded like
he wanted us to play nine andwe're like, well, we want to
play 18.
It was one o'clock, sun goesdown at like 5, 30, almost six,
yeah, yeah, close to six.
And uh, we're like we want toplay 18.
And then he's like, well, youknow, I mean, because I mean it
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was just so weird, he didn'twant us to be there for 18 holes
.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, I think he was.
Honestly, I think he was justwanting us to play nine so they
could shut down early because itwas a little chilly.
But we were already, the sunwas out and the wind had picked
up a little bit that second halfback, the second 18 for us, so
the wind got a little chilly.
But yeah, he was like, he wastotally like uh yeah, he was
like it's fast, he doesn't getoff the course that better for
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us all yeah, it's like well.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
He literally said well, it's cold outside, like he
was trying to talk us out ofplaying 18.
It was so weird, um, but wewere.
I was like, and I was like canwe just pay for 18 and if we
don't finish, we'll just comeoff when it's time?
He's like well, then we got tosend someone out there to get
you.
It was really weird.
So, but we ended up playing, wepaid for 18.
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We played, we caught up to thegroup in front of us on like 13.
And they let us play throughand we finished by 430.
And I was expecting, when wecame in, he was there, I was.
I was expecting him to be like,yeah, you guys, good for you
guys.
You know, I didn't think youguys were gonna do it, you know,
but he, he was silent um but,yeah, what, what a fucking
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fantastic finishing hole atcaledonia like that finishing
hole is sick.
So dope, dope.
I said to Dan.
I think I said could youimagine playing this during a
VGN finals, this final hole?
It would be so perfect.
The patio right there lines upperfectly to the 18th green.
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And it is a fantastic finishing18th hole and beyond the 18th
hole.
There are so many great holesout there and the bridges out
there are incredible and themoss hanging from the trees are
fantastic.
The par threes are so sick andit was just for me.
It was really cool being a golfarchitecture fan and playing
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Mike Strance's first golf coursehe ever built and, like I, I
thought it was incredible andyou can see you can see the
fazio in it, which was kind ofcool, and you can see him trying
to break away from thefazio-ness of where he he
understudied.
I thought I thought it was greatand and they make perfect
sister courses they areliterally two minutes from each
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other.
You play true blue and they'reright across.
Like it took us two minutes toget to caledonia.
The only, the only thing that Idid not like is that the the
chowder shack was closed for theseason and I wanted to get some
chowder because it's next tothe practice green and you know
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during the season they have.
They have a guy out there justgiving you chowder when you pass
by and I really wanted.
I really wanted that.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
So that just means you gotta go back, exactly yeah
I'd be happy to go back 100.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
I didn't get the chowder we have a rain check, so
we're going to have to go back.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
All right.
So then what happened the nextday.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So, yeah, we did that .
We found out that most of uslove really good salads, so we
had another salad at Lowe's Food.
Shout out Lowe's Food.
Lowe's is awesome, I cut up asalad tonight and that's what
I'm gonna have, trying torecreate the lowes food salad I
have a salad almost every dayhey, and shout out salty golfer,
he's tuning in.
(38:14):
Uh, I did have a salty golferbeer if you're in the area, and,
uh, and so did dan you grabyourself a salty golfer beer.
His, uh, yearly two-mantournament, right, yeah, two-man
tournament.
It's called the plunder.
It's happening at caledonia inaugust, I believe.
So if you're interested ingoing down there to play that,
go hit up the salty golfer andsign up for that.
(38:34):
It's a fantastic spot for atournament, um, but, yeah, after
that.
So we hung out and then, uh, wewoke up at 6 am, uh, and drove
down, yeah, and then we wentdown to charleston muni golf
course, uh, and shout outcharleston muni.
What a great logo.
1929.
(38:56):
Uh, reno, reno'd.
I get reno'd, yeah, in 2020 bytroy miller.
Uh, we met up with Tyler Woodsand Jameson, who has been on the
podcast Blind Squirrel Golf.
It was.
It was true Muni, true, trueMuni.
100% true Muni.
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But the greens, the greens,tiny greens tiny greens, tiny
template greens.
You have no idea about thesegreens.
These are greens, these arehistoric greens, they are rainer
greens, they are templategreens, like and it's.
And what was so cool aboutcharleston muni was, you know,
(39:37):
like old mac is built off oftemplate greens, or template
holes as they call them, andlike the redan and the maiden
and you know the alps, andthat's what charleston muni is.
It's completely.
It's basically flat.
It's a flat golf course.
Not many interesting t shots,uh, unless the hole turns a
little bit or something likethat, or if there's a tree in
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the way.
But the greens are based on, uh,you know the, the template
holes that cb mc, cb McDonaldcame up with and that Doak built
basically Old Mac off of andtook his mind to in recreating
Old Mac and the Lido and allthat.
So every hole has a name.
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It's based on the template.
And we got there and I was likethis is cool, but it's a Muni.
And then we got on the firstgreen which you can't even tell
from the first fairway.
You don't even like you see thegreen or you're hitting into
the green and you're like, oh,it looks like a green.
And then you get up there andyou're like holy shit.
Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Double plateau first green double plateau plateau.
First green double plateau.
First green plateau on the leftside.
Plateau on the back side.
Everything's sloping from theleft to right and then from back
to front.
Wow, it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Uh, it was cool yeah, oh, yeah, it's, yeah, yeah
tough tea time.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
That's a tough tea time to get, supposedly yeah so
tyler booked it for us.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
He he lives 10 minutes away and um we were.
Uh, trey texted him.
He's like uh, so we're gonna beout there.
He's like well, it's nearlyimpossible to get two times so
he was able to secure some, butum would have took more pictures
of the greens and the.
The camera just does does notdo any justice to that place at
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all.
Those greens are insane, likethe punch bowl.
Is that punch bowl green isnuts, it's literally a fucking
bowl.
It's crazy, yeah.
And the Redan hole and the roadhole and the Maiden and it's
just really fucking cool, reallyfucking cool to play some like
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historic golf and understandwhere these template holes came
from and they're like they'retrue template holes.
They're not like reincarnations, like Doak did at Old MacDonald
, like at Old MacDonald, likeDoak reinterpreted them, which
they're still the templates.
But these are like hard cutting, cookie cutter templates, like
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yeah, the edges are cut, likethis is a template hole and you
can, you can move some stuffaround, like dope did old mac,
like you can soften it here,soften it there, but this is
like cookie cutter template holeand it was wild great deal for
locals too.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
We got a.
We got paired up with this, uh,with this kid what was his name
?
Do I forget his name?
Patrick, patrick, yeah, and hebrought, he brought his dog out.
Kevin.
Kevin was awesome, um, but 25for that course to walk, yeah,
wow, 25 bucks we paid, you guyswalk 82 to ride.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, we paid to ride our cars have flat tires yeah
yeah, but it's $25 to the locals.
You don't have a lot of truebudget yeah true muni it is a
true muni through and through,like at 75 years running the
shop good conditions, thoughcobwebs in every single corner.
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Greens were great.
Fairways, dormant, firm, firmfast.
Greens were great, Bunkers weregreat.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Really good.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Dormant and firm and laid grass was laying down, but,
yeah, the the holes 11 through11.
12, 13, 14, 15, 16,.
11 through 16 is actually well.
What is that?
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16.
11 through 16 is actually well.
11 through 14 is why you go,but 11 through 16 is incredible.
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It's Redan, cape Road, shortand then Maiden.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Yeah, the road was cool.
I like that one a lot.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, redan, cape Road and Short is why you go
there.
I had a putt.
So if you've watched, like theFriday video, uh, short, short
is a template hole.
It's a short par three, sobasically.
And then there's anothertemplate hole that's called long
.
That's a long par three, but thethe short is a square green and
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it's got like basically a bigthumbprint in the middle that
doesn't go all the way through.
So it's not like a beer, it's.
It's like a like a three bigthumbprint in the middle that
doesn't go all the way through.
So it's not like a beer ritz,it's like a three-quarter
thumbprint in the middle.
Basically, yeah, it looks likea toilet seat.
So I was right at the bottom ofthe toilet seat and I was like
trying, like and it breaks ashit ton and the hole was back
left, so I was like trying toslingshot it around the toilet
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seat and it took up and I hit ittoo hard and it was so close to
going off the back of the green.
It's like it's like playingDonald Ross, like everything
feeds off, you know, and DonaldRoss is like turtleback.
This is like it's like it justgoes like plateaus.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, almost every green is like
raised there like three feet,three to four feet, so there's
one hole.
What was that?
Par five, joe?
It's raised like seven feetit's huge.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, that was uh, I think that was called
knob, knob, knob oh yeah, that'swhat I like great name um, and
then nine, nine, so nine.
There it's a long par four.
There's a bunker that's like inthe middle of the fairway and
we we saw it coming in and thethe bunker is 30 yards short of
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the green yeah, 50 yards shortof the green.
But when you, when you hit itand you're in the fairway,
you're like that's right infront of the green and so you're
just trying to hit it over thisbunker.
And then, if you hit it overthat bunker, you still got 30,
40 yards to get to the green.
And it was so cool, like thedeception, uh.
And also they have short flags.
The flags are like three feettall yeah yeah so really wow.
(45:56):
They say it like if you're notfrom there.
It plays with your perceptionof like you know yeah depth.
You pick up these flags andyou're like this feels like a
toy.
It was so weird.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Like you know, I just put my arm on the putting green
yeah, a little taller than theflags on the putting green yeah,
pretty crazy, yeah, and afantastic logo, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Then we hit the, then we hit the Charleston pub or
whatever sports pub, yeah, andthen we, then we did the airport
shuffle and got out of Dodge,you know.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Well, it sucks about the first day, but yeah you made
the best of it.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
We did.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Sometimes you have a reason to go back to.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
There is a lot of golf out there to play A lot of
golf.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
And Bulls Bay is horses.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
There's shit done.
Bulls Bay is private strandscourse.
It's like an in our charlesyeah so it's in between
charleston and paulie's island.
We were in paulie's island,which is a little south of
myrtle, but uh, yeah, I'm on amission to play every strands
course.
So if anybody knows anybody atbulls bay, I'll come out and
play it, if you can get us outthere.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
If you're listening.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I saw a video some guy posted where he had rated
some of the courses inMassachusetts and he said that
the Massachusetts GolfAssociation came out with their
top 100 courses in Massachusetts.
He was going down this list andI'm like.
Massachusetts isn't the biggeststate in the union.
They have the top 100, whichmeans there's more because some
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courses don't make the top 100.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
In massachusetts I was like good lord, but you know
what's so funny about like thatis like east coast golf is so
different from what we have outhere oh yeah, I was in boston.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
That course I played in boston was so different, so
there is.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
There is massive pockets of incredible golf,
incredible golf course logos and, uh, you know it's there's too
much out there to play and uh,you know massachusetts is in
that area, where you know it,there's Connecticut, there's
Delaware, there's New York rightthere.
(48:20):
Like there's so much out therethat you can hit, I mean a lot
of it's private, that's oldmoney up there and there is a
shit ton of golf to play.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
And history is incredible.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah, the history is so crazy.
Well, where?
Speaker 1 (48:37):
we played was across the street from old sandwich and
, oh yeah, I was like why didn'twe play there?
Because I didn't know anythingabout the area where we're going
.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
He's like, oh, I'll find a place to go and I'm like
old sandwiches across the road,dude yeah because yeah, that was
like 145, this was only 35 Idon't know if it's just like
because I'm, because I live invegas, or like you know, like I
understand, like the west coastgolf, but like the east coast
golf is a whole nother animal.
There was like so many hiddengems out there that we've
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probably never even heard ofthat are just tucked away in the
trees behind walmart.
You know, like you can't seeanything there because it's all
flat and it's it's behind that.
If you, if you didn't know itwas there, you wouldn't know it
was there.
You know, because it's hidden,you can't see beyond the horizon
and it's there's something doperight behind those trees.
(49:30):
So I love, uh, east coast golfand I want to play more of it.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
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will be right back.
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Speaker 2 (50:17):
Ooh hey, did you see?
Salty golfer said top hill istobacco road on acid yeah, I saw
that yeah and then joe fromlofty was in the chat, that's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
So, joe, click on joe from lofty, make sure you're
following him chapman.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
Rob chapman said that too, didn't he, didn't you say
something about?
Speaker 2 (50:38):
that's just.
I mean, that's crazy that'scrazy, though, because tobacco
road looks so more madprofessory to me, and I think
that might be one of the greatthings, though that tot hill is
like it in any video or anythingI've seen, it doesn't reveal
too much, yeah, you know, andand any video I watched on true
(50:58):
blue does not do true blue anyjustice at all.
This is true drone footage orwhatever, but all right.
Speaker 4 (51:09):
What's that music?
Did you say something youcreated in the lab today, matt,
that's feeding the duck baby,quack, quack, quack that that
was doing acid earlier today Ifound this the on stream song.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
They've got some free music that you can play and I
was, like some of them are justlike bad, like nobody ever will
ever play that on anything, andI found this little gem.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
I'm like sounds pretty soul gulf for me.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
New ringtone and it's called feeding the ducks.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Quack, motherfucker, quack, quack yeah that, that it
is pretty dope.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I do like it I do like it, it's gonna.
I think, dan, I think you'reright, I'm to have to make that
a ringtone Anyways.
So, jeremy, you, jeremy is here.
If anybody's just listening, heis actually here on the show
tonight.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah, you were down in Scottsdale a little family
trip with with with the family.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
And you stopped in at new level.
I did saw dock and uh well, oh,wasn't playing, wasn't really
planned.
Um, I did bring my clubs and Idrove by so many courses and I
named them all but I didn't playany of them.
So I need to definitely go back.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
But we drove down to southern dunes because I can't
believe you were there anddidn't I know, I know for real
and you had your clubs with youI had my clubs, but I didn't
know.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
You didn't have anything to do drove to southern
dunes and didn't play.
Yeah, I had lunch.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's not like.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
That's like driving it's not a bad drive, it was
only like he's a bit, he's a bigdriver guy he's a big driver
driver yeah.
So I didn't mind the drive, butI just wanted to show him
because that only like he's abig, he's a big driver guy, he's
a big driver driver, yeah.
So I didn't mind the drive, butI just wanted to show him
because that's like that'sprobably one of my favorite
courses, so we had lunch.
The patio there is like one ofthe best no, I I promise honey.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Once we get over, the horse smell well yeah it's
beautiful yeah, so that was,that was cool.
Speaker 5 (53:11):
But yes, I did.
I reached out to doc.
It was like 9 30 at night onFriday night.
I'm like, hey, you're probablynot going to be open tomorrow,
but if you are, can I come by?
He's like I'm not going to bethere but I have a tee time I
can meet you before.
So he was going to go play.
So he met me there early in themorning Saturday and I just
wanted to check it out because Iknow you guys went and you said
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how cool the studio was and theshop and all that.
And I wanted to see the new 702irons because I sort of fell in
love with them when I saw thema couple months ago, went in,
hit them they're amazing inperson, felt so good and got
them.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And just got them.
Speaker 5 (53:56):
It was an easy sell BNLG, BNLG, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:57):
So Doc is awesome and got him so and just it was a.
It was an easy sell it wasn't abnlg, bnlg yeah, doc is awesome
.
That was the first time I methim in person, but oh, really
yeah, doc's the man.
Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, yeah, he knows his stuff.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
It was cool.
What was that?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I got a 702 cbs in the four andfive and a six through wedge in
the mbs.
But they do have the 702 plus,which I possibly will get in,
like the four, iron or something.
Order another one, because it'sa little bit more forgiving,
but there's, all of them arereally similar in size.
(54:30):
There's no, it's not liketitleist or tailor-made how you
progressively get much larger.
They're all so good I think youwill all be impressed with them
.
I should get them this week,though.
That's why I wanted to playSunday, but I might have to do
some indoor golf or somethingWe'll have a golf stop session.
(54:55):
Yeah, they're pretty sweet,though he was talking to me.
I'm not the biggest nerd whenit comes to equipment like specs
and technology, but they'rethey.
They're packed full ofinteresting things into a small
little package and they wereworking out really well for me.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
so very, very one year in our clubs.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, yep, and I mean the price.
It's hard to beat too.
So yeah, but they're doing morecustomization.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
The ferals and the you know all the extra stuff, so
yeah, did you pick up anytruths while you were there?
Speaker 5 (55:29):
um no, but I did find the ones that are spiked, which
I I'm a fan of spiked and theyhe had a couple pairs of those
which I love, so I don't thinkthey're out yet.
They've been.
They were supposed to be outearlier this last year yeah and
they've just kept pushing themand, pushing them and but yeah,
I really like them off to sendyou a picture.
I don't know, I'm sure you'veseen them, but yeah, tons of
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good shoes.
I didn't try any on I.
It was nice to see him inperson, though, because I have a
really hard time choosing whichones I want because there's so
many and you guys have all ofmine.
It's hard to see, yeah, so itwas cool to see all of them and
definitely gonna order.
Ordered a couple already,actually, so just waiting for
those spiked ones uh, so the?
Speaker 1 (56:17):
or did you go to Putting World or no?
Speaker 5 (56:19):
No, we didn't go to Putting World.
It was right by where we stayed, though.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
I think it's right by New Level yeah it's right
around the corner, it's justdown the street, yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:29):
Yeah, we didn't go there, but good food.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Did you hit that In-N-Out right there?
Speaker 5 (56:35):
No, yes, we did.
Yes, it's great right, it's thebest.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
That's like the best in and out I've ever been to but
it was so busy.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
I mean they're all busy.
It took like 45 minutes, 45minutes.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, a 45-minute wait.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
We didn't eat in there.
We went through thedrive-thruru and it was not a
short line.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
That is the best In-N-Out I've ever ate at.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
They opened one up in Boise and it was like a
six-hour drive-thru.
Speaker 5 (57:07):
It was the same in Utah when they did it.
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
It's a fucking burger people.
That's insane.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
Even here now, every In-N and out is you're gonna be
there for at least 15 minutesthe one on saint rose is
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (57:20):
There's never not a line there, it's.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (57:23):
We got a lot of them, but that is the best in and out
I've ever been to, so shout out, scott still I will say this
because it's close in and out.
Speaker 1 (57:31):
That better buzz coffee.
That just opened up.
That's in the holy shit, thatis good coffee I do want to try
it, but I'm not waiting in linefor coffee oh no, I I I.
There was nobody in line when Iwent the other day oh, the
hype's that down okay yeah, Imean when it first opened up you
couldn't get in the parking lot.
It was so, yeah, much of a line.
(57:51):
But yeah, there was one carthat pulled forward as I pulled
in.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
So I thought that was a Vegas local thing, but we saw
one in Scottsdale.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yes, it's from California.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
Oh man, I was impressed.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
Seven brews bro.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
It was really good, that's all.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
I got.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
You guys got anything else.
Anything else you want to talkabout, all right, I tell you
this.
Since nobody's got anythingelse, I'll just I'll blab this
out.
So I, I am working on somethingthat I'm trying to I don't know
formulate or try to puttogether.
I'm going to reach out to JohnSherman from sweet spot golf,
(58:36):
because he's a golf mental coachand and see if he has any ideas
on this.
But because I know you guys allplay golf differently.
Joe with a soul, soul golf.
Dan, you know you're a greatplayer and you've played
competitively.
Jeremy, great player, youplayed, you know high school, um
, and me as a, you know a scrubthat is refined and and I'm a
(58:57):
good player now and and statjunkie, mind, blah, blah.
But I, I've noticed something inmy life when things happen that
are when streaks are involved,how much more focused you get
when a streak is involved, notnecessarily just with golf, I'm
talking with anything like um,um, you know, when I when back
(59:19):
going 10 years, when I wasrunning every day, it was like I
had built up this streak ofrunning.
You know I, I was 10 days in arow and it's like, oh, I'm going
to go, cause I don't, I'm on astreak.
I'm on a streak and it justmade it easier.
And as that street got bigger,the desire to not do it because
(59:39):
you were going to end the streakbecame more than what you were
doing.
So like for me right now withalcohol.
You know I'm on two years noalcohol.
It's a hell of a streak.
I don't have any desire to drinkanymore but like the desire the
desire to continue the streakis kind of taken over my desire
to not drink yeah so with hasthat ever happened to you with
(01:00:02):
golf?
because I was talking about itwith kenzie because she's
helping me with this foodnutrition thing right now.
Um that you know last year Ihad a streak of 11 rounds in the
70s.
I'd never done that before.
You know, I think I had maybeback-to-back rounds in the 70s
once or twice in my life, soputting together 11 in a row it
was, and it changed the way Iwas playing golf because I was a
(01:00:25):
little bit more focused onplaying a little bit more of a
strategic game out there and notnot going for the hero shots
and, you know know, playing itsafe a little bit, but I was
posting good scores and thestreak was a part of that.
So I was curious if you guyshave ever had a streak any, not
necessarily in golf, butanything that has really like
(01:00:48):
changed you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I mean like if I mean if I was doing like when
I've done the gym, you know, andI'm like like, well, I can't
miss today.
I've been going every day fortwo weeks.
Yeah, of course there's streaks, but you know, I'm on a I'm on
a big streak of not caring aboutthe golf shot and hitting the
funnest shot that I can, and I'mgonna hit the funnest shot I
(01:01:15):
can.
So I'm on a streak of hittingthe most ridiculous shot.
I potentially can not pullingit off all the time, but I'm on
a streak not playing thesmartest shot you can, but
playing the funnest shot you can.
So that's a big streak.
I got going on right now likewhen we were at charleston uni I
(01:01:35):
told you I had a shot and I waslike I don't know if I can get
over these trees, but if I, if Ijust lay up over here there's
that little window there andjulian goes.
Well, you know, it'd be coolvideos if you just try and hit
it under that branch, which waslike five feet off the ground,
and just hit a little drawstinger up there, that'd be a
cool video.
I was like he's like, but youprobably don't want to do that.
(01:01:57):
I was like, yes, I do, that'sthe funnest shot that we can do
right now.
So I did it, I pulled it off andit ended up on the green, which
was super sick so I'm on a bigstreak on hitting the funnest
shots I can and I I willcontinue to hit the funnest
shots I can, because I'm on astreak right now.
They don't always turn up, butI'll continue doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But I do agree.
If you got something going andyou're working towards something
, yes, you are correct.
If you're going to the gymevery day, every day, every day,
every day, you feel worseskipping a day than you do going
.
So I do completely understandit and that's the thing you got
to get in that groove.
Once you're in that groove,you're done like, just like dan
(01:02:47):
dan.
Dan slipped up a couple timesbut you know he picked it right
back up and he's streaking.
Right now he's through the,through the gymnasium, into the
quad.
Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Dan is streaking all the way, yeah he's doing it he's
streaking.
Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Jeremy, you've had anything like that um, I was
trying to think like severalyears ago, before I moved here,
I, I, I sort of was committingto practicing, uh, hitting the
range, hitting the, you know,short game area, and I think I
was like a month or two monthsof every day.
I spent time practicing.
And you definitely know likenow I don't practice very much,
(01:03:27):
but when I do I can tellimmediately that it's a huge
benefit, and not only justmaking reps but just working on
specific little things.
But but yeah, a couple, severalyears ago I would practice
every single day and my scoresreflected it played in the state
am tournament a couple years ina row.
But it's hard to get back intothat.
(01:03:47):
But I think really it's justcommitting and actually doing it
because it's you mean, once youstart something like that just
like stopping drinking, going tothe gym, eating better,
whatever it is is the hardestpart is starting, because once
you're on, the street.
It's just coasting through andand building up.
So yeah, probably practicing Iwould love.
Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I would love to figure out what, what it is that
you know, clicks in your, thatthat makes you think differently
, because a streak is involved,you know, and is.
Is anybody able to tap intothat mindset not on a streak and
have that positive influence onwhat you're doing without a
(01:04:30):
streak being involved?
It's, I'm, it's just.
I love, I love how the mind yeah, I love how the mind works and
I love how the mind works and Ilove how you can trick your own
self, because there's nodifference.
It's just because something ishappening.
Your mind is in a differentplace.
Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I will say Jeremy was on a very big streak and now
he's on a new streak streak.
And now he's on a new streak.
Jeremy was on a big titleiststreak for years.
Now he broke that streak andnow he's on a streak against a
titleist, Switching balls.
Switching irons, he'srediscovering his stuff.
(01:05:15):
I've always had a ping bag.
Yeah, I know, but you've you'vehad ping bag is a streak, yeah
yeah, I see, but I don't think Ithink there's anything wrong
about breaking a streak if itcreates new, yeah, areas for you
to learn, like jeremy'slearning along this process
because he broke his title ofstreak and he's going to figure
(01:05:38):
out more about himself in thelong run breaking the streak,
and he'll know if he wants to goback to that streak of being
Titleist.
And I think that's under theclouds where you can learn as
well.
You know, I don't think there'snothing wrong with breaking
streaks, but you learn a lotfrom yourself if you break a
(01:05:58):
streak as well.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Oh, absolutely you do .
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I'm just gonna leave that there leave it there.
Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
All right, streak talk over.
All right, it's gonna do it forthis week's show.
Thank everybody.
Uh, thank you all for tuning in.
Um, we'll be back next weekwith another show.
Joe, do your thing.
And oh, did you look with theodds there?
Do you want to?
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
do the odds.
Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
We got the american express, the first tournament in
the in the in the continentalstates, yeah I was, I was
thinking about the sorry aboutthe fires and how it was going
to affect riviera, because Ikept watching those maps with
the evacuations and it'sactually inside the fire zone,
(01:06:41):
but it sounds like everything's.
It wasn't affected at all, sohopefully it'll still happen.
Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Much prayers to the people out there.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, shout out to everybody that is dealing with
some shit.
I mean, you know, it's a toughgo.
Yeah, that is really shitty.
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Kevin Furness was like he's been posting.
You know, anybody needsanything, need a place to stay.
I got an extra room.
You need any food.
I know people, I mean it's,it's, I feel, 10-year-old boys,
it's correct, it's a dopaminehit.
It's awesome what you knowcommunity, how community helps
in times like this.
So you know community, howcommunity helps in times like
(01:07:21):
this.
Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
So it's absolutely devastating what's going on
there.
Yeah, crazy shit man.
Odds got odds.
Yeah, uh.
The amex, uh.
Palm springs.
Sudden jm is your favorite at12 to 1.
Just thomas, 12 to 1, alongwith sam burns, patrick, uh,
slow ass.
Cantlay.
14-1.
Tony fina 22-1.
Kurt kittayama 25-1, along withwyndham clark, max uh,
(01:07:41):
gracerman.
Tom kim 28-1.
Davis thompson, cameron young35-1.
Siwu kim, harry, uh, siwu kim's40-1.
Harry hall at 45 to one.
Shout out harry nick dunlap.
45 to one is.
Did nick dunlap win the?
Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
he won this one last year, yeah zal torres 55 to 1.
Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Jj spawn 61.
Jason day 60 to 1.
Let's look for some.
Cam davis 40, 75 to 1.
Ricky fowler 90 to 1.
Nick taylor 90 to 1.
Doug gimm 100 to one.
Go all the way down to thebottom.
Is there someone you're likelooking for, or what?
Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
blades brown what's kyle mendoza?
Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
oh, is he playing in this?
Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
yeah, yep, kyle's at the bottom.
Uh, what is that plus?
Five thousand one, fivethousand one I 5,001.
Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
5,001, I think $5 on.
Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Commandoza $5 wins 25 Gs.
Let's go, Comm.
Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
All of us do that, and then we'll go to South
Carolina next week.
I just put it in.
Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Let's go Commandoza.
What is this?
It's G186.
That's the name, right here,G186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
2,500 to 1 g 186, that's the name that's right
here.
How drunk are you?
Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I'm not fucking kidding, dude g 186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
I don't know where am I.
I can't see it.
Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
Hey, it's all blurry oh there it, there it is Golfer
number 186.
Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
That's wild.
Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
It's probably the alternate, because Shoffley
popped out, so it's probably thealternate.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
That's Elon Musk's other kid.
That's X42L hyphen.
Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Let's go, kyle Mendoza.
Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Let's go, kyle did you see blades brown on there?
Did you see blades brown?
Was he on there?
Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
um, there's a lot of players that are low oh, blades
brown 501 17 year old.
Phenom turn pro his firstname's blades.
Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Huh oh, he's elite, oh he's elite blades, brown
travis, matthew calloway.
Yeah, 17, good lord room forkyle.
Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Mendoza over blades brown oh, absolutely, absolutely
sorry blades is he?
Oh, he did good at the.
Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
He did good on the corporate last year he was,
didn't he to get week, is he?
Oh, he did good at the.
He did good on the corn prairie.
Last year he was, didn't he Toget status.
Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
He won twice or something like that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Interesting.
It's always a fun one to watch.
Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Julie and I are going to be out at Summit on Friday
and then then Los prados onsaturday yeah, you get to see
los prados finally, yeah uh itwas just for years and years and
years and years ago.
So of course, yeah, um, we'llbe playing visiting summit
(01:10:53):
what's that?
Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Is this your first time visiting Summit?
Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Is this your?
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
first time visiting Summit.
It'd be my first time on theproperty.
Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Yeah, You're going to love the practice area.
Oh, I've seen it from space.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
It's amazing, yeah, the range is dope.
It's amazing, yeah, it is dopeLooking forward to that.
Hey, shout out Cliff tuning in.
Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Hey Cliff, you need to go see True Blue, you need to
go play True Blue next timeyou're there.
Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
You won't regret it, All right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Joe, take us home.
Hey, thanks for tuning in thisepisode of Chasing the Daylight
Podcast, number 308, which iscrazy, shout out to everybody
that listened last weekend.
We got a bump in downloads lastweek, so that was awesome to
see, and continue sharing theshow.
If you have any topics ordiscussions you want to post and
have us talk about, send it ourway.
We are here and until next week.
(01:11:44):
We will catch you later.
Thank you, you.
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