January 29, 2025 • 59 mins
This episode captures the excitement of a weekend in Vegas, featuring a visit to Swingers LV for mini golf, as well as a thrilling experience at the craps table. We explore the sensory overload of indoor golf entertainment, reflect on the dynamics of community gaming, and share thoughts on pro tournaments, new initiatives like TGL, and a future interview with Lance Reader from Krank Golf.
• Discussing the indoor mini-golf experience at Swingers LV
• Thrills of playing craps and the community feeling surrounding casino games
• Reflections on the Torrey Pines and Pebble Beach tournaments
• Debating the future direction of golf with the introduction of TGL
• Interview with Lance Reader from Krank Golf about innovation in golf equipment
• Inviting listeners to share their ultimate Vegas experiences
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
oh hey, no intro this week, why not?
What the hell fuck it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fuck we're doing it, buddy, we're doing it live doing
it live here.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We'll do this.
We'll get some ducks rolling.
What is up everybody?
Welcome to another episode ofthe chasing daylight podcast.
It helps if you start instagramtoo.
Oh, my goodness, I'm just amess this morning, or?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
this evening.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh, you're off I'm all off, you're off.
Joe started talking band and Igot all flustered and welcome to
the show, everybody, welcome,welcome, welcome.
Episode 310 there's quite a bitof oh, look at that grinding
golf in the house.
We need to do some vgn headcovers.
Yes, yeah, uh, thanks everybody.
(00:46):
Uh, instagram's going now.
Uh, youtube is up and we arealso on x.
So if you want to participatein the show, joe always mans the
ig page.
Uh, x and youtube.
If you leave a comment, uh, youcan, uh, you we'll share it on
the screen For everybody else.
(01:06):
We love the interaction, sobring it, bring it, bring it,
bring it.
Last week we were chatting TGL,which we'll talk some more TGL.
This week.
We checked out Swingers LV, theindoor putt-putt place in Vegas
.
We'll talk about that.
And I love craps.
Now, I'm a big craps guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Big craps guy.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, bgc.
Uh uh, juju and I were down inHavasu for a putter uh event.
That that was a lot of black.
That was a lot of fun, it was ablast.
Um, I got a new putter showedup today.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
That was a lot of blast.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was a lot of blast .
It was a lot of blast.
We had some fun.
Torrey Pines took place thispast weekend, pebble Beach is
this week.
We got Revere coming up thisSunday.
I was hitting the Elite Driverand Indoor Trackman.
Got some cool numbers aboutthat.
(02:04):
And then this morning Iinterviewed lance reader from
crank golf.
Everybody knows crank from thelong drives and bryson
dechambeau.
That was uh blice.
It's so funny because when wehaven't done a one-on-one
interview with anybody it's beena while and I always get
nervous when I do the interviewsbecause I I got my questions
that I want to ask and you knowwe had a pre-phone call last
(02:27):
week talking about what we chatabout and a lot of times I'm
like I'm looking through myquestions and I'll look up it's
been 20 minutes and I'm like howthe hell am I going to get
another 30 minutes?
out of this, you know, to makeit a viable interview.
We were chatting.
I looked up an hour and five.
I mean it flew by.
Lance is a 100% golf nerd thatowns a driver company that is
(02:53):
doing some amazing things and Icannot wait to share it with you
.
Later on in the episode I got alittle teaser that we'll share
so you can kind of see how theformat was and everything.
But it was a lot of fun and Ihad a blast.
Can't thank him enough for that.
Yeah, so let's get it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Uh, let's get into some some golf chatter joe, you
want to start with uh uhswingers.
Yeah, we can.
So uh, yeah, I turned 40 onsaturday, happy belated birthday
, by the way.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, sir, you were, you were there so yeah shout out
to you shout out
Speaker 2 (03:27):
and tray and tray and tray.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Uh, no, I had, I had no idea.
So, wife surprised, because Imentioned it a couple months ago
.
I said it'd be cool to get likeeverybody together to go play
swingers and check it out.
So, uh, she uh successfullyachieved a surprise out of me.
But uh, it was cool it.
The only thing is it's I mean,it's like real mini golf.
(03:52):
It's different from pop stroke,for sure, but it's just too
quick, it's too fast.
I mean we played for 15 minutesyeah it it
felt I mean it felt like 10minutes, like we were done in 10
minutes.
You know they got three nineholes but uh, it was fun, like
no doubt about it, it was a lotof fun, but um, it just was, it
(04:13):
was so fast and it was overbefore we knew it.
I feel like I mean, especiallywith me getting like three aces,
you know, so it was just quickit was.
It was very packed Like, verypacked Like shoulder to shoulder
Way more people than I thoughtwere going to be in there for
sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And the holes are like on an 8x10 piece of plywood
.
That's how big the holes are.
They're not big, not very big,and they're lined up in a row
and it's like you go to one,then you go to the next one,
then you go to one and you go tothe next one, then you go to
the next one and you know they,they say everybody, put out your
(04:53):
ball, you know, and then thenext person go and and they're
not crazy difficult holes, it's,it's fun, you know, it's a,
it's a putt putt place and butthen you're, then you're waiting
for the next group and then youshuffle, shuffle, shuffle,
shuffle, and then you play, andthen you're waiting for the next
group and then you shuffle,shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, and
then you play and then you'rewaiting for the next group and
shuffle, shuffle, shuffle,shuffle and it's it's very
conveyor belty.
Uh, you know that's.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I mean, that's how many golf is nowadays, though
it's like you know, it's, it'scramped, it's, you know, and the
hardest hole was the windmillhole.
That's the only one that reallygave any of us any difficulty,
and it's, it's.
It's just it's too quick.
The the holes aren't longenough at all.
Like you know, I would haveloved for it to be 10 more
minutes.
You know, worth of golf, you'repaying, we were having fun with
(05:34):
it.
Oh yeah, we're paying.
We're paying 30 bucks, you know, for 10 15 minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's no replay, it's not.
It's not like pop stroke, whereonce you get in you can go as
much as you want but I think youcan pay for an extra nine, uh,
for a discounted price.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But like when we rolled up, you know, they said
they didn't have any tea timesfor two and a half hours
basically, and and katiefinagled it to where, like I
called earlier, they say get usin.
And then they're like, oh, letme check with somebody, and then
, oh yeah, we can get you in.
You know, I don't know ifthey're playing that game of
exclusivity or anything but um,it was packed so did you only
(06:13):
play nine holes, or?
all three.
We played nine holes.
Then we went upstairs to theircarnival area which has a bunch
of games from like old school,like excalibur, circuscus which
is cool and they're all golfthemed yeah, and, and you get
tickets and then you can tradein your tickets for, like, golf
towels or ball markers or teesor golf balls, things like that.
(06:36):
But uh, we, we did a littleloop and then we hit the craps
table we're like, we're out yeah, matt's first time playing
craps, which uh he's not crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I almost broke his knee also.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah were you as lucky as trey was apparently we
all won, we all, we all won I, Ileft, but I was up 300 bucks,
so I I was happy I haven't.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I love craps.
Craps is my favorite casinogame and, uh, to share matt's
first time on the craps tablewas awesome.
Um, we, we got locked in at the15 minimum, which was fantastic
because they automatically up,that's at 25 as soon as four
more people showed up you know,I was teaching matt how to play
the game and it's, it's fun,dude, it's a community game.
(07:23):
It's like you know me, matt andtrey on the corner we're all
like rooting for each other.
It's, it's a blast.
And matt hit this heart eightand, uh, I had money on the
heart eight we all had money onthe heart eight and then I
fucking just bear hugged him andlifted him up and I almost
broke his knee like the knees itwas fun I.
(07:44):
That's the most fun I've had oncraps table in a long time,
long time yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It was good threw a couple dice off the table a
couple times, so same dice, samedice you learned same dice it
was, uh, it was a good time.
But if this is what I'd tellyou, because a bunch of people,
after I posted some pictures,were sending me messages, what
do you think?
What do you think what?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
do you think same yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
same about swingers and this is this is what I was
telling everybody.
You need to go just to check itout, to see what it's like, so
you can say that you've been.
Will you go again?
And probably not.
Maybe if you got a buddy intown that's staying in mandalay
bay and you want to go hang out,you know maybe, but there's a
lot of other, better places tohang out in my opinion.
But it's, it's cool.
(08:25):
It's cool to see.
It's a, you know.
Going back to it's where therum jungle was.
If anybody remembers where thatwas in the, as soon as you walk
in from the parking garage,it's right there.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So for me it's like you know, we don't have a lot of
mini golf town or mini golfthat's like that.
You know, um, it's cool thatit's adults only.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
but like, theo loves mini golf and he can't go there
because it's not welcome forkids, I think they need to open
it up during the day forfamilies, like maybe on
saturdays yeah one day a week,you know because theo would love
to do that, like in the, likeyou said, in the morning, like
in the summertime, when peopleare at the pool and they're
taking a break.
Oh, let's go's.
Go do a putt-putt for a littlewhile.
Grab some frozen drinks.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be every day.
I did love that their frozendrinks had great names.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Frostelay.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They had.
Frostelay was a great name fora frozen drink at a mini golf
place.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What's up Juju?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Good stuff stuff yeah , oh yeah, comment's coming in.
I didn't see that.
We got.
Uh, sup, fam, what you doingthe house all right, so that
that covers swingers and craps?
Uh, that was a lot of fun.
I it's what was nice.
And train, we were talkingabout this.
That, the the craps.
(09:42):
What do you call them?
Joe attendance uh, dealers,crap dealers, yeah, yeah they
were very, very cool.
They weren't.
They weren't assholes, they,they were cool.
The the guy was helping joehelped me explain what was going
on and you know he was really,really cool and that that made
(10:03):
it a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So well, that's also the thing when you're playing
craps like I, my dad was a crapstealer, so, like I, was laying
down bets for them from thebeginning.
Um, you got to do that, youwant them to take care of it,
and when matt hit that hardeight, they actually had six
dollars on that hard eight, sothey made like sixty dollars off
that roll from your roll, yeah.
So, um, obviously that getsthem into the game and they're,
(10:26):
of course, more willing to helpyou if, if, if, you're throwing
bets out there for them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So dude and trey threw double sixes to set the
set the point, and then he threwdouble sixes on the next roll.
It was back-to-back box carsfrom trey was crazy it was crazy
, but I mean it would be fun ifwe had, you know, like 10 of us
all that, all hung out and justmobbed and took over craps table
yeah, that's what we used to dothat I could, that I could see
(10:53):
happening so yeah, maybe we'llhave our vg and board meeting
around a crap's table.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I just got a bad roll going on.
That's a whole different story.
Everybody's got a bad rollgoing on.
That's a whole different story,everybody's shit in the bed.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Tory pines I know ever since we went and played
tory pines everybody kind ofgets up to watch this one
because you get to see thoseguys just play great golf on an
incredibly hard golf course.
They had some struggles withthe wind.
They had to have a wind delaythe course was firm, it was fast
(11:30):
, it was rough, was thick and uh, yeah, I'd seen people lay up
on 13 was impressive, becausenormally those guys bomb it down
there so far that they can, youknow, hit the low irons into
that.
But uh, seeing that a lot ofguys have to lay up to the
bottom of the valley was adifferent way to watch Torrey.
Congrats to Harris English onthe win.
(11:52):
Ludwig got sick and made itthrough, so kudos to him for not
taking the WD and getting somepoints and playing, but it's
always fun seeing Torrey on TV.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Should we tell him he's on mute or just let him go?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think that where they really failed is we got
Torrey Pines again coming up.
Yep, that's a bad choice.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
It's going to be interesting Real soon and it's
going to be a better field too.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Be interesting, yeah, and it's gonna be a better
field too yeah, it's gonna be abetter field, and the only thing
that's good is it's only gonnabe the south course, so I'm as
far as I know, I can't imaginethem playing the north course
again yeah, no, I think I thinkpga tour fucked up with that one
.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like I know that um riviera can't be played
currently, but better optionswere out there, especially like
for them to pick a course thatis being played this week and
then they're gonna play it againin a few weeks, like that's
just.
They fucked up too.
It's the least amount of effort.
Yeah, I mean, I understand fromlike a logistical standpoint,
(13:03):
like they don't have to putstands up anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know everything it was a total phone in.
They phoned in, they.
They said what can we do tospend the least amount of money?
Yeah, yeah go to tory.
I mean they should have justsaid fuck it and had it at at uh
, where it's supposed to be atriviera and dealt with.
You know, raise some money fromsupport for the fires and
(13:30):
everything.
But I mean I guess it's, Idon't know.
I haven't seen recently so manyso many options.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They had so many options, you know, and they
probably went to the furthestoption away from where they were
to do it yeah, there's manyoptions to be between tory and
uh riviera.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like trump national, have been great I'd love to see
them at pasa well, that's north,north but I know, yeah, that
would be sick rams hill.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think rams hill would have been fantastic.
I mean, I think they got to itup and they're scared to shake
it up, Yep, but it does savethem money.
So I do understand that aspect.
But we don't need to see Torreytwice in a month, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I mean, the US Open was recently there, and
then you have, you know, thefarmers.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's a thing bro.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I mean there's been a lot of tori.
It's kind of like when quailhollow stale getting stale it
was.
You know, every year there wassomething going on at quail
hollow and we've got a lot ofquail hollow.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now we're getting an overdose of tori yeah, yeah,
letting it get stale and and youdon't need that currently,
especially with the hype of TGLand Liv.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I still okay, so we can talk about TGL.
I still have not watched thisweek's episode.
I got it recorded, but you guysall said best one so far.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, by a margin.
Yeah, it was way better.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So what made it better?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Personalities, the Tiger Rory sort of rivalry, tom
Kidd.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Not a blowout yeah not a blowout, it went down to
it.
He had a shootout at the end.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah, you got to watch it.
It was good.
Yeah, I'll probably watch ittomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I was going to try and watch it.
It was good yeah, I'm gonna.
Uh, I'll probably watch ittomorrow.
I was gonna.
I was gonna try and watch ittoday, but so so much going on
today.
Good grief, I'm a busy man,it's seeing that.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It's funny seeing them, like all those flubbed
chip shots that you see duringthe tgl with the grain they're
hitting chips into the grain andit hits the edge of the collar
and just pops straight up andstop.
That's interesting.
I mean it's like they expect itto act like a real green, which
?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It takes time to get used to, for sure, that's what.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I've said.
I've said that the chippingseems to be the biggest issue
that they have because it's fakegrass and there's no common
reaction for artificial turf anda wedge.
It's going to react differentlyalmost every time because it's
not real grass.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, kisner had a putt from um off the green and
uh, he putted it and it justlike popped up, like and it
popped pop, and it didn't evenmake two or three feet yeah yeah
yeah, I'm curious like it'sit's cool, it's amazing, like
the technology is truly amazing.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
but I'm wondering if, for next season, if they're
going to change the green up andtry to advance that a little
bit, because it's it'sinteresting, because you know
where they are on the green atevery time, like you see the
same hill but it's from adifferent angle.
I'm curious if they'll figureout a way to change it yeah, I
do that hill Cause change thatthing.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, yeah, I do that hill because that hill is
always there.
There's always that, like everytime, opti, or every time,
every time, and with thependulums or whatever they have
under the green, like it's, thathill is always there they need
to sit broke.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, it was too severe yeah yeah it's like an
automatic six feet by the holeevery time you put it on it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And then you see guys that are like oh, come down,
come down, and it stays.
And then they have this on thescreen.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And then it just touches the ball.
You know, they just touch thetouch and it takes off and it's
like that should have rolledback.
But regarding that Hill?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, that regarding that Hill, though.
In the playoff it wasinteresting to see Keegan
Bradley hit the hill, but hedidn't make it all the way up
and it came all the way backdown.
But Tom Kim drove it into thehill and checked up onto the top
of the tier, so it's like theseguys are going to figure it out
(17:55):
eventually.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah it's getting a lot of.
It was interesting, go ahead.
I think it was kisner, I can'tremember who hit that approach
shot and it clearly should haverolled down like rolled back
down towards the flag, but onthe screen it just stuck there
in the middle, like in themiddle of the downslope.
It stuck on the green.
So they have to move.
They couldn't set the ball downbecause it was just rolling, so
they had to move it around thehill.
(18:16):
That was interesting, but canyou explain what the hammer is?
I still don't get that.
What is the hammer?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
for it just doubles the points for the whole.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's basically a press.
It's a press basically.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And then if you do it before they tee off, they have
to accept it Right, because youcan deny, you can say, don't,
I'm not taking the hammer, okaysomebody throw it down before
you tee off.
I think you have to take I don'tknow, I'm not 100 sure, but
it's been getting a lot of, alot of hate.
(18:52):
A lot of people are talkingshit about it and you knew that
was going to happen.
I mean it's again.
It's.
You know, it's the live versusthe pga types talk and it's like
, oh, you guys are shitting onlive, but you love indoor golf.
And it's like, well, you know,I mean it's, it's not golf, it's
.
You know, as joe's been sayingfor weeks now, it's it's golf
(19:15):
entertainment.
This is not.
You know, you're not basingyour handicap off this.
You're not getting world uhranking points for this.
It's.
It's fun, it's entertainment.
It's it's good to see theseguys out there.
You know, hitting golf shots onsimulators it's fun.
It's fun.
And if you think about it asbeing fun, you might enjoy it a
little bit more than I think.
(19:35):
A lot of these people areexpecting this to be what golf
is going to be in the future.
And I mean until we can't gooutside because the toxic fumes
in the air have all locked us insilos beneath the ground.
Golf isn't going anywhereanytime soon.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Shout out silo Season three.
Shout out Silo Season three.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Season three, come on .
You know, golf isn't goinganywhere for a very long time.
And I don't think anybody hasany fear, should have any fears,
that something like this onESPN is going to change the game
.
It's not, it's just somethingto watch on a Tuesday night oh
wait, a Monday night, oh wait aMonday at 3.30.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Oh wait a.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Tuesday at 5.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What the?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
fuck, ESPN Good grief .
Speaker 2 (20:26):
They got to get that shit figured out.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know what the hell is going on with that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, that's terrible If they want the most
viewership, like it's 8 pmEastern on whatever day.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who is the guy in the ESPN executive board that
approves when things are on inthe time slot?
How did he not go?
You know, this is collegebasketball season and we have
way more people watch collegebasketball than indoor simulator
golf.
Maybe Tuesday nights are not agood night for this?
Yeah, you know, and Mondayfootball's over on Monday nights
(21:07):
.
So just put it on Monday nights.
Make it a new Monday nightevent and I think the the
players will be happier becausethat's you know a day sooner
that they can get to wherethey're playing if they're
playing yeah, true, and that's I.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I thought about that too.
Is that why max homer didn'tplay for jupiter links and
that's why tom kim was in?
Because is max homer playingpebble or like?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
everybody's playing pebble.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's a signature event but didn't max withdraw
this week too, though I don'tknow xander's not playing
because he's got a rib.
I don't know that I don't knowwhen it got um now that episode
got recorded.
But if it was this week, I knowmax.
I'm pretty sure max withdrewdue to sickness.
A lot of people did withdrew uhdue to sickness, but, um, that
(21:53):
could be a reason why he didn'tplay let's see if he is in the
that too, or because tom kimyeah you know, he sat out last
week, and it was just Max's time.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He tees off 10-19 on Thursday at Pebble Beach, so he
is in the field.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
California kid.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, which, by the way, love seeing all the
top names.
We haven't seen this.
You know, Amy, you want tocount the century?
You can, but it's been a while.
It's been a while and there area lot of players in the field
this week.
If you look at the OWGR, we got1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13
(22:34):
, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15,
16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23,24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 9, 30, 31,
32, 33.
I mean basically all of the top50, for sure, minus a couple
players.
So this is what we want.
I mean the people that aren'tthere.
(22:55):
We want them there as well.
So still don't know if it'sever gonna freaking happen.
But yeah, let's get the bestplayers back on the course,
please.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
All of them, it's gonna happen soon yeah and I can
tell by your sweater thatyou're wearing because it's
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We're getting close.
We're getting close.
Uh, it will be fun to to seethe masters again looking
forward to it.
All right, so that covers, uh,the bubble beach.
Uh, here's, here's the bubble.
Here's here's the new one.
There she is fiend there she ishe's back, baby.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
The mayor is back.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
This is the company man the company man well, hey, I
was all you gotta do is givehim a deep discount on things
and he'll fucking just go totown on his head now I was
rolling jailbird before Istarted working with calloway,
so uh, but yeah, this is the,the slant.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You can see it right there, the slant neck little
half off on the offset and manvery happy.
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I even got my grip on it already.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Wow, yeah, brand new just released.
These are brand new the slantneck, so I implore anybody to
get out to the golf store.
What I so what this version hasmore than my plumber's deck.
It's got a little bit more toehang so it feels more like a
blade and, uh, I had it bent tooflat so it sets up perfect.
(24:32):
I was out rolling it thisafternoon.
Wow, very nice, very nice.
Feels very different than myother jailbird.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I mean, the face is the same.
What's the difference?
Milled, it's like a milled face.
No, it's still the same.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, it still has the white hot face.
They don't have the milledversion in the slant neck yet.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
What was the previous jailbird?
Was it the same exact face?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Exact same, neck yet, but I'm is the?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
what was the previous jailbird?
Was it the same exact face orexact same head, except it's
just the neck, okay, yeah justjust what I like about it is
when you're looking down on it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Because of the slant neck, you see more of the putter
head.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't see it look like a referee.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm sorry this way so you, when you're looking down
on it, you can see more.
It's all blurry sorry, it'slike looking through a picket
fence well, they have anotherversion now, where they took
this cross and they put it thisway, so it it runs front to back
, not across.
Uh, it's called the the versan90 because they turned it 90
(25:36):
degrees, that's another one.
That looks really nice.
It's the only version of thatone so far.
If you like the feel of a bladewith the performance of a
mallet, check it out.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And the head cover of a mallet.
I got that one.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I mean, that is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's a mallet head cover of a mallet.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I got that one.
I mean, that is a pretty cool,come on.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, that's a mallet , head cover, absolutely massive
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's huge, it's not that big Look, it's smaller than
my hand.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You got small hands.
You got small hands.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't have big.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingI've got small hands and it
doesn't cover it up.
It's not that big.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's very big.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Here more toys.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Can you wrap your whole?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
hand around your putter grip.
Let's see you mean like that.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah.
It looked really big beforewhen you showed it, but I guess
it's just a normal oversized oneas big as your head.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's not that big.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Can you use it?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
as a pillow in a jam Travel pillow.
Oh, I like that idea.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Definitely hangs over the edge of your back, that's
for sure.
Tuck yourself in with theVelcro.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So here for everybody watching uh, this is an old
crank driver.
This is many, many uh versionsago.
They have 18 different driversthat they've done in their
existence.
Uh, so I I've had this one inthe garage miles.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Most recently used this when he was out with us
yeah yeah, so a very funconversation I had with Lance
and here let's share a littleclip from the show that's going
to come out this Friday 55, 60,65, 70-year-old guys and girls.
(27:35):
65, 70 year old guys and girls.
And when you're winning thoseage brackets, there should be
more relevance to saying, hey,you know what these drivers are
really special.
If they hit straight and long,why can't you use them in golf?
And they were.
You know, we were alwaysconforming on USJ, but not a lot
of people knew that and not alot of people look at long drive
as a golf.
(27:57):
I often wonder.
I said you know these guys arehitting drivers, not hockey
sticks.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So it was like I said earlier.
It's a fun conversation.
If you're not familiar with thebrand and what crank is all
about, please check out thatepisode.
It's going to be out on Friday.
It'll be an audio format on thepodcast and I'm going to post a
YouTube version of it as wellso you can watch the interview.
Did you know that they makefairway woods?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No clue.
I think Trevor used to play one.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And not just one.
They make a bunch of fairwaywoods, but that's Drivers, and
fairway woods are what they do.
They're not going anywhere else.
They're not going into irons,they're not making golf balls
did you ask?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
did you ask him if they seen an explosion, since
bryson put one in his bag?
Yeah, we talk about bryson allright, you're gonna have to
listen then you going to have tolisten then You're going to
have to listen, tune in.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's a fun conversation because Bryson
right now is working with LAGPon a new driver that he is
helping design, but right now inhis bag he still has the crank
stuff.
So he has a crank driver, threewood and five wood.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
So it's a it's a, it was a fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Lance is an incredible golf nerd, like we
are, and I told him.
I said you know it's, it's somuch fun when we can get people
on that just like to nerd out onon stuff, and and it was a very
enjoyable conversation.
So I implore you to uh tuneinto that this friday.
What do we got here?
(29:46):
Oh, it's people crapping on the.
The mallet covers, built-inrain protection for the rest of
your clubs, the pillow for whenyou hit too much jameson on the
course.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Y'all are crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's not that big, good heavens, it's huge it's
huge.
It's huge, alright, so that isthat.
Oh, here, I didn't see thiseither.
I got so many toys.
This is the artwork that I gotfrom sometimes draws, sometimes
(30:21):
draws.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
What a name coffee and clubs.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Coffee and clubs my go-to coffee and clubs.
So that has a spot now in theoffice maybe history hack
chiming in it's not lab hugewell it's not, it's not huge
yeah yes, it's not it's not, Iwas the only one that hopped on
(30:44):
his live earlier today, you guysyeah, I would have been there.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
was that you?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
were working.
Yeah, I'm always working.
Three of us have jobs and oneof us does not, except on the
weekends.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Hey, I have a job.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
On the weekends.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, fridays, saturdays, sometimes Wednesdays,
we had to drive down to Havasu.
When was the last time you werein Havasu?
Well, dan, you've got familydown there, so you probably
didn't more recently thananybody else, but it's been a
while since I've driven toHavasu.
That was a fun.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
How long is that drive?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
220.
You can get down there in two,but then the road into the city
like there's a stop signstoplight Seems like every 200
feet and they're always red.
It took forever to get it intotown and then you know that that
Lake Havasu golf course itlooks really there's parts of it
(31:48):
that don't look that great.
I mean they have two 18 holecourses, but where we were at it
was on the nicer side, with aputting green right outside the,
the pro shop and very muni,vibe joe, you would totally dig
it.
Uh, it's got the outdoor patiothat overlooks the lake.
Uh, you know it was.
There was a frost delay and theladies group was out there.
(32:09):
Uh, the ladies club.
Um, so it was, it was fun beingout there.
We, we, you know there's 21different putters from Odyssey
this year, different putters 21.
That's like 18 too many, butthere is a bunch of them and
they are all different, and sowe had them all out displayed
(32:31):
and people come up and roll them.
We sold, I think a dozenputters that day and it was
great because the ladies werecoming off, nine running over.
Let me roll this, let me rollthis, let me roll this.
Okay, order it and then headedto the 10th tee between uh
during the round.
So there's a lot of fun we'reout there.
(32:53):
For the thing that sucks aboutgoing to arizona right now is
you lose an hour going.
So we had to leave at five inthe morning to get there for a
nine o'clock.
You know uh set up because, uh,you know it takes a while to
get down there.
You got to go 34 and a half insearchlight, otherwise you get a
(33:13):
ticket yep or 24 and a halfsearchlight
no, no, they don't, no.
But yeah, that was a lot of funand, much to my surprise and I
think even juju was a littlesurprised uh, a lot of people
walking up going.
Can I see square to square?
Can I see square to square?
Can I see square to square?
(33:34):
And I was like I, julian, Isaid you know, my social media
feed is kind of directed at whatI look at and what I view and I
don't know what other peoplesee.
So I don't know how people arefinding out about the square to
square, but I was shocked.
So many people knew about itand wanted to come see it and
(33:55):
that's why they were walkingover.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Do you think so?
Lab did it first, right, youagree with that?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
no, callaway did it a long time ago with with a toe
up and the backstrike but itnever.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It never took off.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, lab is lab is what is hot yeah, they're the
one that has made it popularagain.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Callaway has marketed it better Because I mean, from
what you're saying it soundslike square to square, like I
mean because I've said it too.
I mean it kind of rolls off thetongue a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's like it's more of a marketing thing, and square
to square, like rolls, it'slike it's more of a marketing
thing and I think where likeroles yeah, I think what
happened?
What has happened is one.
You have the odyssey name,which is you know it's yeah
arguably the number one putterin golf on the pga tour.
(34:53):
I mean that the number oneputter on the dp world tour this
past week was a square,toto-square putter.
There was more square-to-squareputters in the field than any
other putter.
So you have that brand and thenyou have classic head shapes
it's the 7, the Jailbird andthen a wide blade.
So you have those head shapesthat people are familiar with.
(35:15):
And then you have the face, thewhite, hot face that everybody
knows.
It's not a surprise.
And then you throw in a zerotorque design.
It's just, it's really easy forpeople to think it's going to
be, you know, for them.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
So they have.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Callaway has a huge advantage Huge advantage because
of their name because of theirmoney and I mean not to
discredit lab for anything.
You know they.
They have changed the way a lotof manufacturers are going to
be releasing putters becauseeverybody's coming out with a
version of a zero tort putter.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But it's so funny, I, I, I, a guy walked up and he's
like, yeah, I've got two labputters.
I've heard about the square tosquare, I want to give it a try.
And he walked up and I think hemade probably 10 in a row from
10 feet, like just banging himand banging him and banging, and
he didn't look at it funky, hedidn't set up to it funky, he
just walked up to it, put in hishands, boom putt nailed boom,
boom, boom, boom and I'm likegood lord, and you see other
(36:19):
people go.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Oh god, no, I couldn't do that it's just
interesting to think about likeso, like lab has been blowing up
right, and like what if theyhad came up with the square to
square concept, because that'swhat it is, I mean, like would
that, would that term or thatlike moniker stick with them?
(36:41):
And like resonate and uh,market into the world?
Like because I I never, I nevertouched a calloway square to
square putter, but I knew squareto square.
I was like, oh, square tosquare, square, square, square,
square you know because exactlylike what if lab did that?
what if lab came up with squareto square instead of oh look, it
(37:04):
doesn't move?
You know, like that wholegimmick, you know it could have
been different.
It's just interesting to thinkabout, like marketing budgets,
marketing teams, like you knowwell, it's box versus little box
.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Here's the same.
You know big brother companyodyssey, brilliant with square
to square, like you said, rollsoff the tongue, explains what it
does, boom a hit.
Same company puts a gloss blackfinish on the top driver of the
(37:37):
new Elite line.
Everybody's going.
What the hell were you doing?
It's like you win some, youlose some.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But I don't know, we'll see.
I mean, some of these R&Dpeople just need to be fucking
knocked in the head.
Everybody likes Matt Black.
Like, stop doing gloss.
Well, I mean, well, we don'tknow if I've ever seen anybody
like like gloss, besides jeremy,because he's a titleless guy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But well, we were told that the the triple diamond
line it's, it's tour driven it,it's what the guys on tour want
.
So they want gloss head for themajority of them because that's
you know, hey, I'm going togame this, but it's got to be
gloss.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Maybe it should come with a kit like you can gloss it
yourself.
It's like a DIY driver.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
It comes with a bottle of acetone.
Just pour this over to get yourmatte finish.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, you get to paint your own driver and then
you get like a little heat gun,like a mini heat gun.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, I said to Juju, because the triple diamond is
an all-crown club top and bottomor all-carbon fiber top and
bottom.
So I'm wondering if that carbonfiber top is not allowing them
to do a matte finish on it.
Interesting to see.
I don't't know.
But the new stuff is good.
(39:05):
I spent a couple hours at thegolf stop the other day, took
about five different drivershafts and they're just trying
to find one that fits and works,and found a great combo with
the tensei 1k, black 1k, andit's really really good, really
really good.
So it points to the message.
He's like little company man,you're gonna try tailor-made.
(39:27):
And I'm like I mean, ifsomebody has one I'll hit it,
but I'm not gonna go out of myway to go try one.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I am gonna try a crank driver though, though yes,
I, I did stop at the callowayum fitting um demo day at rhodes
ranch on saturday.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Uh, fitting, fitting day, not there was get it right.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, there was, there was two guys there.
They were really good.
One was okay, one was okay, um,but they knew their stuff for
the most part.
Wow, wow.
No, so I hit those, the CBs,those are really good.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I really like those CBs.
You were smashing those.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah yeah, they look nice.
They're really good.
I was very surprised at thelook of them and shout out Juju,
swapping out my epoxy head,that was not in, so no more
rattle.
Yeah, I do need some opuswedges, though.
(40:34):
I really like those opus wedges.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You saw that picture I posted.
Joe's always over there hittingthe floppers.
He's got a 10-yard shot andhe's hitting it 60 feet in the
air.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
He just didn't shoot the ones where I was knocking
him down trying to draw a skirunner into the hole.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Joe got kind of a firsthand look at what we, what
we have to do on a on a dailybasis when we're out there
interacting with people andasking questions and having
people hit balls.
It's.
It's a lot of fun I'm enjoying,I'm having a blast doing it.
Yeah, got you, bro.
All right, adam, since we'vekind of run down our list of
(41:20):
topics, I'll I'll throw this uphere, just trying to read back
to the slow play topic.
Final group on sunday strolledaround tori five and a half this
past weekend.
Do you limit fields, put a shotclock on greens only, etc.
Need a solution asap I thinkthey should do a shot clock they
just they need to have a atimer on with the walking, you
(41:44):
know the scorer and and.
But, like I said, there is ashot clock on these guys.
They're on the clock and youknow they.
It's just I don't think thetour wants to enforce it,
because if they enforce it, thatmeans they have to enforce it,
because if they enforce it, thatmeans they have to enforce it,
cause if they do it for one.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I think they just need, like an old dude in a cart
, like if the, if the, if thegroup in front leaves the green.
You got 30 seconds, 40 seconds,45 seconds to hit into this
green Yep Cause they're gone andan old dude, an old Marshall,
just cruising around like onethat really believes in the pace
of play, not like these.
(42:25):
These guys are like oh well, hegave me a fucking jolly rancher
and uh, he knows, my sister'smom, you know like none of all
that shit.
Like they're off the green.
You have 45 seconds to hit intothe screen and then, since
you're further away, the nextperson after you hit into this.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You got 45 seconds, like gotta start stroking, I
agree hashtag you should be ableto walk up.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
You've played there three days already guys, guys,
guys.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
You got to start stroking, guys.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
You got to start stroking guys, they'll get the
ratings up.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Once the previous group before them leave, once
they walk off the green, they'rehold out like countdown one
minute and then 45, 45,something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yep, they need a visible clock.
I just think it has to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There's no other way With heartbeats With heartbeats
in their ears.
Heartbeats Boom, boom, boomboom.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
That would be hilarious.
It gets faster.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I would love to see them have a clock on when they
show a group and hey, we'regoing to the seventh hole.
I would love to see them have aclock on when they show a group
.
You know, and hey, and we'regoing to the seventh hole, and
you know, this is the time thatthey've been on the course right
now and see and just show that.
You know, and maybe wake someof these guys up.
You know, and and but and.
(43:57):
A lot of people are saying youknow, they're not playing in
foursomes either.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
These are groups of two and three that are elite
players.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They're not looking for lost balls.
You know they're hitting it inthe fairways, they're hitting it
on the green.
They're putting and it's takenthem, you know, 15 minutes to
play a hole.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, and their caddies know the green.
The caddies know the way thewind's blowing.
They know the green the caddiesknow the way the wind's blowing
, they know the, the forecast,they know all that shit.
Like, yeah, it's too long it istoo long.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It's way too long and it's and it's gonna it's I mean
, they're already it reflectspoorly on the like game that we
play yeah in the real worldthey're gonna start losing
sponsors.
They're gonna start, you know,because they're not getting as
much tv time because they'rehaving to cut away and go to
(44:50):
golf channel because they've runthrough there a lot of time on
cbs or nbc and that's gonna pissoff sponsors.
Did you hear what happened withjason day?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
about the tape on the back of his jacket.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, yeah, joe from lofty was was commenting about
it today.
He was saying that, uh, thatthe tour has a size limit to how
big logos can be on your backthat's fucking stupid, first of
all, but yeah, all right yeah,it's stupid, but the sponsors
pay for certain things and youknow, on the back of jackets is
(45:27):
something that they pay for anduh, so they have to.
So somebody came out there.
I saw on colorado golf blogthey're saying the new malvon
tape is out.
We're in city royalty withmalvon in the middle.
But yeah, and it's stories likethat that aggravate the hell out
of people yeah, so it's.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
It's.
There's a lot of stupid shitabout golf, man, but it is a
great game and uh, I am veryprivileged to have found it and
found my friends that I get toplay the game with, and all the
people across the entire countryand all the courses I've gotten
to play because of the game ofgolf.
And uh, who cares about afucking logo?
(46:09):
You know, it's just, it's justridiculous dude like, and I
understand people pay for that,but the game is so much bigger
and better than that and andit's uh, it brings a lot of us
joy and peace and, uh, times ofhappiness, and they're just
bringing too much fuckingterrible shit to the game.
(46:30):
Like, play faster, enjoy thegame, enjoy your day, go get
yourself a bacon doublecheeseburger at the end of your
round and uh, look forward tothat.
Like absolutely They's just thegame play.
Good, I'm in it, I'm suremalbon loves.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Every time day gets asked to take it off.
Free publicity and most peopleare probably on their side yep,
yeah, yeah, yep, yep yep allright.
Uh, I'm gonna show one morething here, and I mean, dan, bro
, you look exhausted, you allright?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Okay, let's look over one time here.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Dan works more on two days than I do.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I was up at 3 am this morning.
Actually, I work at 4.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Woo, but I'm good that makes my 5 o'clock seem
nice.
All right, let me share this uhscreen with y'all.
Where'd it go?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
this one share it so this is, oh, banded trails
hoodie.
That's the new banded trailshoodie.
This, this is, uh, the newBandon Trails hoodie.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's the new Bandon Trails hoodie.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
This is the new VGN main page on the website.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Oh, he got the cover, dan got the cover.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Dan Hodge is seven-time VGN champion, so I've
gone through and I've beendoing some updating on this, got
some nice photos here from theguys at the first event last
year A little spiel on why youshould join, giving some love to
the players of the year lastyear, showing some of the swag
(48:12):
that we got for it.
But one of the big things thatI was trying to make available
for everybody.
If you go to the schedule andthen you got our events here,
you click on tournament page.
So there's now a tournamentpage and there's going to be one
of these for every event.
Tells you a little bit about theevent T-box assignments, the
(48:35):
flight breaks down what thepoints are for the event,
typical purse payouts.
There's a link to our VGN Rulesof Play so everybody can
refresh that.
Over on the right-hand sidewe've got the Players of the
Year being read there with someadvertisements.
A little bit about the club.
The website establishedBasically a nice little
(48:56):
breakdown so everybody can seethe information there.
And then also, if you click onthe Field button, all the
players look at that spadesdivision 21 guys in there right
now.
So, uh, yeah, so uh, gonna be anice purse for that one oh, why
am I at the end fuck?
because you were the last personto pay so far for that.
(49:19):
This is all about money yeah,this is just, uh, you know, as
as the field gets set, um, so,yeah, some changes to the
website.
Uh, if, uh, you know, you haveany questions about it, that is
a place where you can go now tofind out a lot of information
(49:41):
regarding the league, going tokeep adding some more stuff to
it and eventually, what I'mgoing to do is pull back from
discord.
Not everybody uses discord.
I use discord because it'ssuper easy for me to update, but
I would rather spend a littlebit more time, have a page that
(50:02):
is a little bit moreuser-friendly, a little bit more
visible.
You know, last year nobodycould see any of that
information because it was onlyon Discord.
It wasn't available on thewebsite.
So somebody new trying to checkout the league didn't know what
we were doing or how we weredoing it, other than you know
the main page breaking it down.
So this should help get moreeyes on it, hopefully spurned a
(50:25):
little bit of interest.
You know and I I'm ready tocall out all these guys that you
know play tournament golf thatwhy they haven't come played
with us.
You know, I've been comparingus with the SNGA, the APT
Grint's no longer around butother events that play out here.
Our prices are very competitive, our purses are very
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competitive, the courses are allthe same.
You know a lot of the rateswere cheaper and we have a lot
of good players that are playingin this.
There's a lot of good players inthe SNGA.
There's a lot of good playersin the APT.
There's a lot of good playersin the snga.
There's a lot of good playersin the apt.
There's a lot of good playersin the vgn.
I think a lot of these guyslike the smaller fields and I
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think they have a better chanceto win.
I want to see goes those guyscome to vgn and compete against
15 to 20 people in that sameskill set not five, you know,
not five.
I want to see 20 players inevery division and come, come
show your talents, come showcaseit, come see what you got.
(51:30):
You know, trey is on a fuckingheater right now and he is the
man to beat.
You know, uh, matt nalasco'sback.
He's gonna be playing someevents, but you know we lost a
couple top guys, uh, that havegone on to do some other things
with their golf lives.
So I mean, there is room and wewant you.
(51:50):
We want to have the vgn be thebest competitive golf league in
town, but in order to do that,we need players.
So get your asses signed upthere's you know, 30 spots left
for our february 22nd event got.
Uh, three weeks left untilregistration ends, so there's
plenty of time to sign up and go, and I'm I'm doing this.
(52:12):
Anybody that signs up, newmember that signs up.
I've normally done it insegments, but I'm gonna offer
this to all the new members thatsigned up this year, because
we've only had 14 so far.
Last time this year we had 30,so we're missing some.
You sign up, you're a newmember, you pay full price for
the new membership and you winyour flight.
(52:33):
You get your membership back.
I refund you that money.
So great opportunity, if youthink you've got the skills, you
think you've got the game to,to come out and and win a flight
in your first event, and I'veI've refunded two people.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So it can happen, yeah.
And also, if you think youdon't have the game, you could
still fucking do it too.
Like you can still win too.
Yeah, off is a crazy game.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Crazy game and Sienna is going to be a fun first
round.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Then we head to Boulder, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Then we go to Boulder City for two events in March we
play the Muni course and weplay Boulder Creek and then
Laughlin Ranch.
And all those events are openright now that you can register
for.
And, yeah, I'm excited.
I am excited for the season,excited.
I got the website done.
That's something I've beenworking on the last couple days.
That looks good.
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Thank you.
Trey wants that title, thatcover, he wants the cover.
He wants Trey Sanders seventimes, eight times champion.
That's all I got.
If you guys got anything elsethat's on your mind anybody?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
got anything on their mind Wow.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Where's the I?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
mean I do, but it's too much.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
What's too much's too much, joe, is there any?
You know trying to plan outlike golf trips when you have
people that depend on you atyour home, and like trying to.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
You know it's just so I mean well what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
I did exaggerate that one a little bit, but Cam Kelly
did announce the next KingCollective event for next year.
Where is it at?
Yeah, the fields, lagrange,georgia, trying to find a way
there.
It is the week and afterLandman, so I have to finagle
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back-to-back weekend golf trips.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
You got to take Katie out for a weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Well, I do have a friend in Tampa, kev, so he was
like I know that there's familyout here, why don't they just
hang here and then we'll driveup.
So that seems to be going wellcurrently.
Uh, we'll see if we can.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
We'll see if we can do it wow, you'll, it'll happen,
you'll make it happen.
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
That's the goal, always the goal.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Tell me about the course.
I don't know much about thecourse.
Tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
The fields it is in LaGrange, georgia southwest of
Atlanta.
Georgia southwest of Atlanta.
Some people have said it's the18-hole sister course to
Sweetens Cove.
Looks like a bunch of fun.
Great logo it's got like adonkey with clubs.
(55:57):
They have a master chef outthere that can do some fantastic
food.
Not sell me on a golf course,though, joe.
I don't know much about it.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I mean, I've seen some of the golf course, but it
does look very sick.
I thought when you reposted itthat you knew all about it.
Like this was one of your….
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I do not know all about it.
I have seen things about it andI have not retained it fully,
but, um, yeah, I think the Ithink that the head pro, or I
think he was like gifted it toland from his like parents or
something like that, and hecreated a golf course and he, he
knows all about the grass and,um, I'd have to go back and
(56:43):
re-look into it, but it looksvery dope.
It looks like a very sick golfcourse and I've heard great
things about it already.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
That's a tough time of year.
You've got Landman, you've gotthat BG and Major Coyotes after
that.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, and I might not be able to do Pro-Aid Club
because that's Labor Day weekend.
As you know, retail Labor Dayweekend is tough.
I have a lot of things.
I got a lot of nuts and boltsand wrenches.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
That's going to be a hell of an Uber ride from
butt-fuck Nebraska to whereveryou got to go, because we're
going the other way.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
I might have to hitchhike a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
You're going to be standing on the road.
Let me go back.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Can.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I get a ride back to Omaha.
In the back of a farm truck.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
I'll substitute for you, Joe.
I'll high-five you.
Yeah just stay Sioux CityAirport.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Stay home.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
I know I'm doing Landman, I'm doing Landman,
landman is guaranteed, dan,we're ready for you.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Going to the pen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
We got to figure it out.
That's the thing, bro.
We got to figure things outsometimes in life.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
I'm currently putting a puzzle together and, uh, I'll
figure it out there you gogotta gotta fill those, and
that's what life is puzzles,puzzles, bunch of puzzles bunch
of puzzles, all right, uh, here,joe, I'll give you.
I'll give you some music toroll us out.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Roll us out.
Yeah, roll us out.
Roll us out of the Chase.
The Daylight podcast.
Thanks for tuning in y'all.
We'll see you next week.
We're here every single Tuesday.
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, it's fucking Tuesday.
Wednesday, it's fucking Tuesday, it's fucking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Hey, thanks for tuning in.
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Speaker 3 (58:51):
Every single Tuesday we're talking golf.
Hope you enjoyed theconversation.
We'll see you next week.
It's episode number 475,000,until episode 475,001.
We'll see you next week Later.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Later.
Oh, that's hilarious you.
oh hey, no intro this week, why not?
What the hell fuck it.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Fuck we're doing it, buddy, we're doing it live doing
it live here.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We'll do this.
We'll get some ducks rolling.
What is up everybody?
Welcome to another episode ofthe chasing daylight podcast.
It helps if you start instagramtoo.
Oh, my goodness, I'm just amess this morning, or?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
this evening.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh, you're off I'm all off, you're off.
Joe started talking band and Igot all flustered and welcome to
the show, everybody, welcome,welcome, welcome.
Episode 310 there's quite a bitof oh, look at that grinding
golf in the house.
We need to do some vgn headcovers.
Yes, yeah, uh, thanks everybody.
(00:46):
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So if you want to participatein the show, joe always mans the
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If you leave a comment, uh, youcan, uh, you we'll share it on
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(01:06):
We love the interaction, sobring it, bring it, bring it,
bring it.
Last week we were chatting TGL,which we'll talk some more TGL.
This week.
We checked out Swingers LV, theindoor putt-putt place in Vegas
.
We'll talk about that.
And I love craps.
Now, I'm a big craps guy.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Big craps guy.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, bgc.
Uh uh, juju and I were down inHavasu for a putter uh event.
That that was a lot of black.
That was a lot of fun, it was ablast.
Um, I got a new putter showedup today.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
That was a lot of blast.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It was a lot of blast .
It was a lot of blast.
We had some fun.
Torrey Pines took place thispast weekend, pebble Beach is
this week.
We got Revere coming up thisSunday.
I was hitting the Elite Driverand Indoor Trackman.
Got some cool numbers aboutthat.
(02:04):
And then this morning Iinterviewed lance reader from
crank golf.
Everybody knows crank from thelong drives and bryson
dechambeau.
That was uh blice.
It's so funny because when wehaven't done a one-on-one
interview with anybody it's beena while and I always get
nervous when I do the interviewsbecause I I got my questions
that I want to ask and you knowwe had a pre-phone call last
(02:27):
week talking about what we chatabout and a lot of times I'm
like I'm looking through myquestions and I'll look up it's
been 20 minutes and I'm like howthe hell am I going to get
another 30 minutes?
out of this, you know, to makeit a viable interview.
We were chatting.
I looked up an hour and five.
I mean it flew by.
Lance is a 100% golf nerd thatowns a driver company that is
(02:53):
doing some amazing things and Icannot wait to share it with you
.
Later on in the episode I got alittle teaser that we'll share
so you can kind of see how theformat was and everything.
But it was a lot of fun and Ihad a blast.
Can't thank him enough for that.
Yeah, so let's get it.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Uh, let's get into some some golf chatter joe, you
want to start with uh uhswingers.
Yeah, we can.
So uh, yeah, I turned 40 onsaturday, happy belated birthday
, by the way.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, sir, you were, you were there so yeah shout out
to you shout out
Speaker 2 (03:27):
and tray and tray and tray.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Uh, no, I had, I had no idea.
So, wife surprised, because Imentioned it a couple months ago
.
I said it'd be cool to get likeeverybody together to go play
swingers and check it out.
So, uh, she uh successfullyachieved a surprise out of me.
But uh, it was cool it.
The only thing is it's I mean,it's like real mini golf.
(03:52):
It's different from pop stroke,for sure, but it's just too
quick, it's too fast.
I mean we played for 15 minutesyeah it it
felt I mean it felt like 10minutes, like we were done in 10
minutes.
You know they got three nineholes but uh, it was fun, like
no doubt about it, it was a lotof fun, but um, it just was, it
(04:13):
was so fast and it was overbefore we knew it.
I feel like I mean, especiallywith me getting like three aces,
you know, so it was just quickit was.
It was very packed Like, verypacked Like shoulder to shoulder
Way more people than I thoughtwere going to be in there for
sure, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And the holes are like on an 8x10 piece of plywood
.
That's how big the holes are.
They're not big, not very big,and they're lined up in a row
and it's like you go to one,then you go to the next one,
then you go to one and you go tothe next one, then you go to
the next one and you know they,they say everybody, put out your
(04:53):
ball, you know, and then thenext person go and and they're
not crazy difficult holes, it's,it's fun, you know, it's a,
it's a putt putt place and butthen you're, then you're waiting
for the next group and then youshuffle, shuffle, shuffle,
shuffle, and then you play, andthen you're waiting for the next
group and then you shuffle,shuffle, shuffle, shuffle, and
then you play and then you'rewaiting for the next group and
shuffle, shuffle, shuffle,shuffle and it's it's very
conveyor belty.
Uh, you know that's.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I mean, that's how many golf is nowadays, though
it's like you know, it's, it'scramped, it's, you know, and the
hardest hole was the windmillhole.
That's the only one that reallygave any of us any difficulty,
and it's, it's.
It's just it's too quick.
The the holes aren't longenough at all.
Like you know, I would haveloved for it to be 10 more
minutes.
You know, worth of golf, you'repaying, we were having fun with
(05:34):
it.
Oh yeah, we're paying.
We're paying 30 bucks, you know, for 10 15 minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's no replay, it's not.
It's not like pop stroke, whereonce you get in you can go as
much as you want but I think youcan pay for an extra nine, uh,
for a discounted price.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
But like when we rolled up, you know, they said
they didn't have any tea timesfor two and a half hours
basically, and and katiefinagled it to where, like I
called earlier, they say get usin.
And then they're like, oh, letme check with somebody, and then
, oh yeah, we can get you in.
You know, I don't know ifthey're playing that game of
exclusivity or anything but um,it was packed so did you only
(06:13):
play nine holes, or?
all three.
We played nine holes.
Then we went upstairs to theircarnival area which has a bunch
of games from like old school,like excalibur, circuscus which
is cool and they're all golfthemed yeah, and, and you get
tickets and then you can tradein your tickets for, like, golf
towels or ball markers or teesor golf balls, things like that.
(06:36):
But uh, we, we did a littleloop and then we hit the craps
table we're like, we're out yeah, matt's first time playing
craps, which uh he's not crazy.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I almost broke his knee also.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Yeah were you as lucky as trey was apparently we
all won, we all, we all won I, Ileft, but I was up 300 bucks,
so I I was happy I haven't.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I love craps.
Craps is my favorite casinogame and, uh, to share matt's
first time on the craps tablewas awesome.
Um, we, we got locked in at the15 minimum, which was fantastic
because they automatically up,that's at 25 as soon as four
more people showed up you know,I was teaching matt how to play
the game and it's, it's fun,dude, it's a community game.
(07:23):
It's like you know me, matt andtrey on the corner we're all
like rooting for each other.
It's, it's a blast.
And matt hit this heart eightand, uh, I had money on the
heart eight we all had money onthe heart eight and then I
fucking just bear hugged him andlifted him up and I almost
broke his knee like the knees itwas fun I.
(07:44):
That's the most fun I've had oncraps table in a long time,
long time yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
It was good threw a couple dice off the table a
couple times, so same dice, samedice you learned same dice it
was, uh, it was a good time.
But if this is what I'd tellyou, because a bunch of people,
after I posted some pictures,were sending me messages, what
do you think?
What do you think what?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
do you think same yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
same about swingers and this is this is what I was
telling everybody.
You need to go just to check itout, to see what it's like, so
you can say that you've been.
Will you go again?
And probably not.
Maybe if you got a buddy intown that's staying in mandalay
bay and you want to go hang out,you know maybe, but there's a
lot of other, better places tohang out in my opinion.
But it's, it's cool.
(08:25):
It's cool to see.
It's a, you know.
Going back to it's where therum jungle was.
If anybody remembers where thatwas in the, as soon as you walk
in from the parking garage,it's right there.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
So for me it's like you know, we don't have a lot of
mini golf town or mini golfthat's like that.
You know, um, it's cool thatit's adults only.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
but like, theo loves mini golf and he can't go there
because it's not welcome forkids, I think they need to open
it up during the day forfamilies, like maybe on
saturdays yeah one day a week,you know because theo would love
to do that, like in the, likeyou said, in the morning, like
in the summertime, when peopleare at the pool and they're
taking a break.
Oh, let's go's.
Go do a putt-putt for a littlewhile.
Grab some frozen drinks.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be every day.
I did love that their frozendrinks had great names.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, Frostelay.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They had.
Frostelay was a great name fora frozen drink at a mini golf
place.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What's up Juju?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Good stuff stuff yeah , oh yeah, comment's coming in.
I didn't see that.
We got.
Uh, sup, fam, what you doingthe house all right, so that
that covers swingers and craps?
Uh, that was a lot of fun.
I it's what was nice.
And train, we were talkingabout this.
That, the the craps.
(09:42):
What do you call them?
Joe attendance uh, dealers,crap dealers, yeah, yeah they
were very, very cool.
They weren't.
They weren't assholes, they,they were cool.
The the guy was helping joehelped me explain what was going
on and you know he was really,really cool and that that made
(10:03):
it a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
So well, that's also the thing when you're playing
craps like I, my dad was a crapstealer, so, like I, was laying
down bets for them from thebeginning.
Um, you got to do that, youwant them to take care of it,
and when matt hit that hardeight, they actually had six
dollars on that hard eight, sothey made like sixty dollars off
that roll from your roll, yeah.
So, um, obviously that getsthem into the game and they're,
(10:26):
of course, more willing to helpyou if, if, if, you're throwing
bets out there for them.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So dude and trey threw double sixes to set the
set the point, and then he threwdouble sixes on the next roll.
It was back-to-back box carsfrom trey was crazy it was crazy
, but I mean it would be fun ifwe had, you know, like 10 of us
all that, all hung out and justmobbed and took over craps table
yeah, that's what we used to dothat I could, that I could see
(10:53):
happening so yeah, maybe we'llhave our vg and board meeting
around a crap's table.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I just got a bad roll going on.
That's a whole different story.
Everybody's got a bad rollgoing on.
That's a whole different story,everybody's shit in the bed.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Tory pines I know ever since we went and played
tory pines everybody kind ofgets up to watch this one
because you get to see thoseguys just play great golf on an
incredibly hard golf course.
They had some struggles withthe wind.
They had to have a wind delaythe course was firm, it was fast
(11:30):
, it was rough, was thick and uh, yeah, I'd seen people lay up
on 13 was impressive, becausenormally those guys bomb it down
there so far that they can, youknow, hit the low irons into
that.
But uh, seeing that a lot ofguys have to lay up to the
bottom of the valley was adifferent way to watch Torrey.
Congrats to Harris English onthe win.
(11:52):
Ludwig got sick and made itthrough, so kudos to him for not
taking the WD and getting somepoints and playing, but it's
always fun seeing Torrey on TV.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Should we tell him he's on mute or just let him go?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I think that where they really failed is we got
Torrey Pines again coming up.
Yep, that's a bad choice.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
It's going to be interesting Real soon and it's
going to be a better field too.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Be interesting, yeah, and it's gonna be a better
field too yeah, it's gonna be abetter field, and the only thing
that's good is it's only gonnabe the south course, so I'm as
far as I know, I can't imaginethem playing the north course
again yeah, no, I think I thinkpga tour fucked up with that one
.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like I know that um riviera can't be played
currently, but better optionswere out there, especially like
for them to pick a course thatis being played this week and
then they're gonna play it againin a few weeks, like that's
just.
They fucked up too.
It's the least amount of effort.
Yeah, I mean, I understand fromlike a logistical standpoint,
(13:03):
like they don't have to putstands up anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know everything it was a total phone in.
They phoned in, they.
They said what can we do tospend the least amount of money?
Yeah, yeah go to tory.
I mean they should have justsaid fuck it and had it at at uh
, where it's supposed to be atriviera and dealt with.
You know, raise some money fromsupport for the fires and
(13:30):
everything.
But I mean I guess it's, Idon't know.
I haven't seen recently so manyso many options.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
They had so many options, you know, and they
probably went to the furthestoption away from where they were
to do it yeah, there's manyoptions to be between tory and
uh riviera.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like trump national, have been great I'd love to see
them at pasa well, that's north,north but I know, yeah, that
would be sick rams hill.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think rams hill would have been fantastic.
I mean, I think they got to itup and they're scared to shake
it up, Yep, but it does savethem money.
So I do understand that aspect.
But we don't need to see Torreytwice in a month, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Well, I mean, the US Open was recently there, and
then you have, you know, thefarmers.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It's a thing bro.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
I mean there's been a lot of tori.
It's kind of like when quailhollow stale getting stale it
was.
You know, every year there wassomething going on at quail
hollow and we've got a lot ofquail hollow.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now we're getting an overdose of tori yeah, yeah,
letting it get stale and and youdon't need that currently,
especially with the hype of TGLand Liv.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I still okay, so we can talk about TGL.
I still have not watched thisweek's episode.
I got it recorded, but you guysall said best one so far.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, by a margin.
Yeah, it was way better.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So what made it better?
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Personalities, the Tiger Rory sort of rivalry, tom
Kidd.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Not a blowout yeah not a blowout, it went down to
it.
He had a shootout at the end.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah, you got to watch it.
It was good.
Yeah, I'll probably watch ittomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I was going to try and watch it.
It was good yeah, I'm gonna.
Uh, I'll probably watch ittomorrow.
I was gonna.
I was gonna try and watch ittoday, but so so much going on
today.
Good grief, I'm a busy man,it's seeing that.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
It's funny seeing them, like all those flubbed
chip shots that you see duringthe tgl with the grain they're
hitting chips into the grain andit hits the edge of the collar
and just pops straight up andstop.
That's interesting.
I mean it's like they expect itto act like a real green, which
?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
It takes time to get used to, for sure, that's what.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I've said.
I've said that the chippingseems to be the biggest issue
that they have because it's fakegrass and there's no common
reaction for artificial turf anda wedge.
It's going to react differentlyalmost every time because it's
not real grass.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, kisner had a putt from um off the green and
uh, he putted it and it justlike popped up, like and it
popped pop, and it didn't evenmake two or three feet yeah yeah
yeah, I'm curious like it'sit's cool, it's amazing, like
the technology is truly amazing.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
but I'm wondering if, for next season, if they're
going to change the green up andtry to advance that a little
bit, because it's it'sinteresting, because you know
where they are on the green atevery time, like you see the
same hill but it's from adifferent angle.
I'm curious if they'll figureout a way to change it yeah, I
do that hill Cause change thatthing.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, yeah, I do that hill because that hill is
always there.
There's always that, like everytime, opti, or every time,
every time, and with thependulums or whatever they have
under the green, like it's, thathill is always there they need
to sit broke.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Yeah, it was too severe yeah yeah it's like an
automatic six feet by the holeevery time you put it on it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And then you see guys that are like oh, come down,
come down, and it stays.
And then they have this on thescreen.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And then it just touches the ball.
You know, they just touch thetouch and it takes off and it's
like that should have rolledback.
But regarding that Hill?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, that regarding that Hill, though.
In the playoff it wasinteresting to see Keegan
Bradley hit the hill, but hedidn't make it all the way up
and it came all the way backdown.
But Tom Kim drove it into thehill and checked up onto the top
of the tier, so it's like theseguys are going to figure it out
(17:55):
eventually.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah it's getting a lot of.
It was interesting, go ahead.
I think it was kisner, I can'tremember who hit that approach
shot and it clearly should haverolled down like rolled back
down towards the flag, but onthe screen it just stuck there
in the middle, like in themiddle of the downslope.
It stuck on the green.
So they have to move.
They couldn't set the ball downbecause it was just rolling, so
they had to move it around thehill.
(18:16):
That was interesting, but canyou explain what the hammer is?
I still don't get that.
What is the hammer?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
for it just doubles the points for the whole.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's basically a press.
It's a press basically.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And then if you do it before they tee off, they have
to accept it Right, because youcan deny, you can say, don't,
I'm not taking the hammer, okaysomebody throw it down before
you tee off.
I think you have to take I don'tknow, I'm not 100 sure, but
it's been getting a lot of, alot of hate.
(18:52):
A lot of people are talkingshit about it and you knew that
was going to happen.
I mean it's again.
It's.
You know, it's the live versusthe pga types talk and it's like
, oh, you guys are shitting onlive, but you love indoor golf.
And it's like, well, you know,I mean it's, it's not golf, it's
.
You know, as joe's been sayingfor weeks now, it's it's golf
(19:15):
entertainment.
This is not.
You know, you're not basingyour handicap off this.
You're not getting world uhranking points for this.
It's.
It's fun, it's entertainment.
It's it's good to see theseguys out there.
You know, hitting golf shots onsimulators it's fun.
It's fun.
And if you think about it asbeing fun, you might enjoy it a
little bit more than I think.
(19:35):
A lot of these people areexpecting this to be what golf
is going to be in the future.
And I mean until we can't gooutside because the toxic fumes
in the air have all locked us insilos beneath the ground.
Golf isn't going anywhereanytime soon.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Shout out silo Season three.
Shout out Silo Season three.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Season three, come on .
You know, golf isn't goinganywhere for a very long time.
And I don't think anybody hasany fear, should have any fears,
that something like this onESPN is going to change the game
.
It's not, it's just somethingto watch on a Tuesday night oh
wait, a Monday night, oh wait aMonday at 3.30.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Oh wait a.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Tuesday at 5.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
What the?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
fuck, ESPN Good grief .
Speaker 2 (20:26):
They got to get that shit figured out.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I don't know what the hell is going on with that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, that's terrible If they want the most
viewership, like it's 8 pmEastern on whatever day.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who is the guy in the ESPN executive board that
approves when things are on inthe time slot?
How did he not go?
You know, this is collegebasketball season and we have
way more people watch collegebasketball than indoor simulator
golf.
Maybe Tuesday nights are not agood night for this?
Yeah, you know, and Mondayfootball's over on Monday nights
(21:07):
.
So just put it on Monday nights.
Make it a new Monday nightevent and I think the the
players will be happier becausethat's you know a day sooner
that they can get to wherethey're playing if they're
playing yeah, true, and that's I.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I thought about that too.
Is that why max homer didn'tplay for jupiter links and
that's why tom kim was in?
Because is max homer playingpebble or like?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
everybody's playing pebble.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's a signature event but didn't max withdraw
this week too, though I don'tknow xander's not playing
because he's got a rib.
I don't know that I don't knowwhen it got um now that episode
got recorded.
But if it was this week, I knowmax.
I'm pretty sure max withdrewdue to sickness.
A lot of people did withdrew uhdue to sickness, but, um, that
(21:53):
could be a reason why he didn'tplay let's see if he is in the
that too, or because tom kimyeah you know, he sat out last
week, and it was just Max's time.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
He tees off 10-19 on Thursday at Pebble Beach, so he
is in the field.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
California kid.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, which, by the way, love seeing all the
top names.
We haven't seen this.
You know, Amy, you want tocount the century?
You can, but it's been a while.
It's been a while and there area lot of players in the field
this week.
If you look at the OWGR, we got1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13
(22:34):
, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15,
16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23,24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 9, 30, 31,
32, 33.
I mean basically all of the top50, for sure, minus a couple
players.
So this is what we want.
I mean the people that aren'tthere.
(22:55):
We want them there as well.
So still don't know if it'sever gonna freaking happen.
But yeah, let's get the bestplayers back on the course,
please.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
All of them, it's gonna happen soon yeah and I can
tell by your sweater thatyou're wearing because it's
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We're getting close.
We're getting close.
Uh, it will be fun to to seethe masters again looking
forward to it.
All right, so that covers, uh,the bubble beach.
Uh, here's, here's the bubble.
Here's here's the new one.
There she is fiend there she ishe's back, baby.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
The mayor is back.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
This is the company man the company man well, hey, I
was all you gotta do is givehim a deep discount on things
and he'll fucking just go totown on his head now I was
rolling jailbird before Istarted working with calloway,
so uh, but yeah, this is the,the slant.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You can see it right there, the slant neck little
half off on the offset and manvery happy.
Look at that.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I even got my grip on it already.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Wow, yeah, brand new just released.
These are brand new the slantneck, so I implore anybody to
get out to the golf store.
What I so what this version hasmore than my plumber's deck.
It's got a little bit more toehang so it feels more like a
blade and, uh, I had it bent tooflat so it sets up perfect.
(24:32):
I was out rolling it thisafternoon.
Wow, very nice, very nice.
Feels very different than myother jailbird.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
I mean, the face is the same.
What's the difference?
Milled, it's like a milled face.
No, it's still the same.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, it still has the white hot face.
They don't have the milledversion in the slant neck yet.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
What was the previous jailbird?
Was it the same exact face?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Exact same, neck yet, but I'm is the?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
what was the previous jailbird?
Was it the same exact face orexact same head, except it's
just the neck, okay, yeah justjust what I like about it is
when you're looking down on it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Because of the slant neck, you see more of the putter
head.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I don't see it look like a referee.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm sorry this way so you, when you're looking down
on it, you can see more.
It's all blurry sorry, it'slike looking through a picket
fence well, they have anotherversion now, where they took
this cross and they put it thisway, so it it runs front to back
, not across.
Uh, it's called the the versan90 because they turned it 90
(25:36):
degrees, that's another one.
That looks really nice.
It's the only version of thatone so far.
If you like the feel of a bladewith the performance of a
mallet, check it out.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And the head cover of a mallet.
I got that one.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I mean, that is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's a mallet head cover of a mallet.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I got that one.
I mean, that is a pretty cool,come on.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, that's a mallet , head cover, absolutely massive
.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's huge, it's not that big Look, it's smaller than
my hand.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You got small hands.
You got small hands.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't have big.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingI've got small hands and it
doesn't cover it up.
It's not that big.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
It's very big.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Here more toys.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Can you wrap your whole?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
hand around your putter grip.
Let's see you mean like that.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Yeah.
It looked really big beforewhen you showed it, but I guess
it's just a normal oversized oneas big as your head.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
It's not that big.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Can you use it?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
as a pillow in a jam Travel pillow.
Oh, I like that idea.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Definitely hangs over the edge of your back, that's
for sure.
Tuck yourself in with theVelcro.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So here for everybody watching uh, this is an old
crank driver.
This is many, many uh versionsago.
They have 18 different driversthat they've done in their
existence.
Uh, so I I've had this one inthe garage miles.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
Most recently used this when he was out with us
yeah yeah, so a very funconversation I had with Lance
and here let's share a littleclip from the show that's going
to come out this Friday 55, 60,65, 70-year-old guys and girls.
(27:35):
65, 70 year old guys and girls.
And when you're winning thoseage brackets, there should be
more relevance to saying, hey,you know what these drivers are
really special.
If they hit straight and long,why can't you use them in golf?
And they were.
You know, we were alwaysconforming on USJ, but not a lot
of people knew that and not alot of people look at long drive
as a golf.
(27:57):
I often wonder.
I said you know these guys arehitting drivers, not hockey
sticks.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So it was like I said earlier.
It's a fun conversation.
If you're not familiar with thebrand and what crank is all
about, please check out thatepisode.
It's going to be out on Friday.
It'll be an audio format on thepodcast and I'm going to post a
YouTube version of it as wellso you can watch the interview.
Did you know that they makefairway woods?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No clue.
I think Trevor used to play one.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And not just one.
They make a bunch of fairwaywoods, but that's Drivers, and
fairway woods are what they do.
They're not going anywhere else.
They're not going into irons,they're not making golf balls
did you ask?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
did you ask him if they seen an explosion, since
bryson put one in his bag?
Yeah, we talk about bryson allright, you're gonna have to
listen then you going to have tolisten then You're going to
have to listen, tune in.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
It's a fun conversation because Bryson
right now is working with LAGPon a new driver that he is
helping design, but right now inhis bag he still has the crank
stuff.
So he has a crank driver, threewood and five wood.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
So it's a it's a, it was a fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Lance is an incredible golf nerd, like we
are, and I told him.
I said you know it's, it's somuch fun when we can get people
on that just like to nerd out onon stuff, and and it was a very
enjoyable conversation.
So I implore you to uh tuneinto that this friday.
What do we got here?
(29:46):
Oh, it's people crapping on the.
The mallet covers, built-inrain protection for the rest of
your clubs, the pillow for whenyou hit too much jameson on the
course.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Y'all are crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It's not that big, good heavens, it's huge it's
huge.
It's huge, alright, so that isthat.
Oh, here, I didn't see thiseither.
I got so many toys.
This is the artwork that I gotfrom sometimes draws, sometimes
(30:21):
draws.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
What a name coffee and clubs.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Coffee and clubs my go-to coffee and clubs.
So that has a spot now in theoffice maybe history hack
chiming in it's not lab hugewell it's not, it's not huge
yeah yes, it's not it's not, Iwas the only one that hopped on
(30:44):
his live earlier today, you guysyeah, I would have been there.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
was that you?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
were working.
Yeah, I'm always working.
Three of us have jobs and oneof us does not, except on the
weekends.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Hey, I have a job.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
On the weekends.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, fridays, saturdays, sometimes Wednesdays,
we had to drive down to Havasu.
When was the last time you werein Havasu?
Well, dan, you've got familydown there, so you probably
didn't more recently thananybody else, but it's been a
while since I've driven toHavasu.
That was a fun.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
How long is that drive?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
220.
You can get down there in two,but then the road into the city
like there's a stop signstoplight Seems like every 200
feet and they're always red.
It took forever to get it intotown and then you know that that
Lake Havasu golf course itlooks really there's parts of it
(31:48):
that don't look that great.
I mean they have two 18 holecourses, but where we were at it
was on the nicer side, with aputting green right outside the,
the pro shop and very muni,vibe joe, you would totally dig
it.
Uh, it's got the outdoor patiothat overlooks the lake.
Uh, you know it was.
There was a frost delay and theladies group was out there.
(32:09):
Uh, the ladies club.
Um, so it was, it was fun beingout there.
We, we, you know there's 21different putters from Odyssey
this year, different putters 21.
That's like 18 too many, butthere is a bunch of them and
they are all different, and sowe had them all out displayed
(32:31):
and people come up and roll them.
We sold, I think a dozenputters that day and it was
great because the ladies werecoming off, nine running over.
Let me roll this, let me rollthis, let me roll this.
Okay, order it and then headedto the 10th tee between uh
during the round.
So there's a lot of fun we'reout there.
(32:53):
For the thing that sucks aboutgoing to arizona right now is
you lose an hour going.
So we had to leave at five inthe morning to get there for a
nine o'clock.
You know uh set up because, uh,you know it takes a while to
get down there.
You got to go 34 and a half insearchlight, otherwise you get a
(33:13):
ticket yep or 24 and a halfsearchlight
no, no, they don't, no.
But yeah, that was a lot of funand, much to my surprise and I
think even juju was a littlesurprised uh, a lot of people
walking up going.
Can I see square to square?
Can I see square to square?
Can I see square to square?
(33:34):
And I was like I, julian, Isaid you know, my social media
feed is kind of directed at whatI look at and what I view and I
don't know what other peoplesee.
So I don't know how people arefinding out about the square to
square, but I was shocked.
So many people knew about itand wanted to come see it and
(33:55):
that's why they were walkingover.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Do you think so?
Lab did it first, right, youagree with that?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
no, callaway did it a long time ago with with a toe
up and the backstrike but itnever.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It never took off.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, lab is lab is what is hot yeah, they're the
one that has made it popularagain.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Callaway has marketed it better Because I mean, from
what you're saying it soundslike square to square, like I
mean because I've said it too.
I mean it kind of rolls off thetongue a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's like it's more of a marketing thing, and square
to square, like rolls, it'slike it's more of a marketing
thing and I think where likeroles yeah, I think what
happened?
What has happened is one.
You have the odyssey name,which is you know it's yeah
arguably the number one putterin golf on the pga tour.
(34:53):
I mean that the number oneputter on the dp world tour this
past week was a square,toto-square putter.
There was more square-to-squareputters in the field than any
other putter.
So you have that brand and thenyou have classic head shapes
it's the 7, the Jailbird andthen a wide blade.
So you have those head shapesthat people are familiar with.
(35:15):
And then you have the face, thewhite, hot face that everybody
knows.
It's not a surprise.
And then you throw in a zerotorque design.
It's just, it's really easy forpeople to think it's going to
be, you know, for them.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
So they have.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Callaway has a huge advantage Huge advantage because
of their name because of theirmoney and I mean not to
discredit lab for anything.
You know they.
They have changed the way a lotof manufacturers are going to
be releasing putters becauseeverybody's coming out with a
version of a zero tort putter.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
But it's so funny, I, I, I, a guy walked up and he's
like, yeah, I've got two labputters.
I've heard about the square tosquare, I want to give it a try.
And he walked up and I think hemade probably 10 in a row from
10 feet, like just banging himand banging him and banging, and
he didn't look at it funky, hedidn't set up to it funky, he
just walked up to it, put in hishands, boom putt nailed boom,
boom, boom, boom and I'm likegood lord, and you see other
(36:19):
people go.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Oh god, no, I couldn't do that it's just
interesting to think about likeso, like lab has been blowing up
right, and like what if theyhad came up with the square to
square concept, because that'swhat it is, I mean, like would
that, would that term or thatlike moniker stick with them?
(36:41):
And like resonate and uh,market into the world?
Like because I I never, I nevertouched a calloway square to
square putter, but I knew squareto square.
I was like, oh, square tosquare, square, square, square,
square you know because exactlylike what if lab did that?
what if lab came up with squareto square instead of oh look, it
(37:04):
doesn't move?
You know, like that wholegimmick, you know it could have
been different.
It's just interesting to thinkabout, like marketing budgets,
marketing teams, like you knowwell, it's box versus little box
.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Here's the same.
You know big brother companyodyssey, brilliant with square
to square, like you said, rollsoff the tongue, explains what it
does, boom a hit.
Same company puts a gloss blackfinish on the top driver of the
(37:37):
new Elite line.
Everybody's going.
What the hell were you doing?
It's like you win some, youlose some.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But I don't know, we'll see.
I mean, some of these R&Dpeople just need to be fucking
knocked in the head.
Everybody likes Matt Black.
Like, stop doing gloss.
Well, I mean, well, we don'tknow if I've ever seen anybody
like like gloss, besides jeremy,because he's a titleless guy.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But well, we were told that the the triple diamond
line it's, it's tour driven it,it's what the guys on tour want
.
So they want gloss head for themajority of them because that's
you know, hey, I'm going togame this, but it's got to be
gloss.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Maybe it should come with a kit like you can gloss it
yourself.
It's like a DIY driver.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
It comes with a bottle of acetone.
Just pour this over to get yourmatte finish.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, you get to paint your own driver and then
you get like a little heat gun,like a mini heat gun.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Well, I said to Juju, because the triple diamond is
an all-crown club top and bottomor all-carbon fiber top and
bottom.
So I'm wondering if that carbonfiber top is not allowing them
to do a matte finish on it.
Interesting to see.
I don't't know.
But the new stuff is good.
(39:05):
I spent a couple hours at thegolf stop the other day, took
about five different drivershafts and they're just trying
to find one that fits and works,and found a great combo with
the tensei 1k, black 1k, andit's really really good, really
really good.
So it points to the message.
He's like little company man,you're gonna try tailor-made.
(39:27):
And I'm like I mean, ifsomebody has one I'll hit it,
but I'm not gonna go out of myway to go try one.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
I am gonna try a crank driver though, though yes,
I, I did stop at the callowayum fitting um demo day at rhodes
ranch on saturday.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Uh, fitting, fitting day, not there was get it right.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, there was, there was two guys there.
They were really good.
One was okay, one was okay, um,but they knew their stuff for
the most part.
Wow, wow.
No, so I hit those, the CBs,those are really good.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I really like those CBs.
You were smashing those.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah yeah, they look nice.
They're really good.
I was very surprised at thelook of them and shout out Juju,
swapping out my epoxy head,that was not in, so no more
rattle.
Yeah, I do need some opuswedges, though.
(40:34):
I really like those opus wedges.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
You saw that picture I posted.
Joe's always over there hittingthe floppers.
He's got a 10-yard shot andhe's hitting it 60 feet in the
air.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
He just didn't shoot the ones where I was knocking
him down trying to draw a skirunner into the hole.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Joe got kind of a firsthand look at what we, what
we have to do on a on a dailybasis when we're out there
interacting with people andasking questions and having
people hit balls.
It's.
It's a lot of fun I'm enjoying,I'm having a blast doing it.
Yeah, got you, bro.
All right, adam, since we'vekind of run down our list of
(41:20):
topics, I'll I'll throw this uphere, just trying to read back
to the slow play topic.
Final group on sunday strolledaround tori five and a half this
past weekend.
Do you limit fields, put a shotclock on greens only, etc.
Need a solution asap I thinkthey should do a shot clock they
just they need to have a atimer on with the walking, you
(41:44):
know the scorer and and.
But, like I said, there is ashot clock on these guys.
They're on the clock and youknow they.
It's just I don't think thetour wants to enforce it,
because if they enforce it, thatmeans they have to enforce it,
because if they enforce it, thatmeans they have to enforce it,
cause if they do it for one.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
I think they just need, like an old dude in a cart
, like if the, if the, if thegroup in front leaves the green.
You got 30 seconds, 40 seconds,45 seconds to hit into this
green Yep Cause they're gone andan old dude, an old Marshall,
just cruising around like onethat really believes in the pace
of play, not like these.
(42:25):
These guys are like oh well, hegave me a fucking jolly rancher
and uh, he knows, my sister'smom, you know like none of all
that shit.
Like they're off the green.
You have 45 seconds to hit intothe screen and then, since
you're further away, the nextperson after you hit into this.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
You got 45 seconds, like gotta start stroking, I
agree hashtag you should be ableto walk up.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
You've played there three days already guys, guys,
guys.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
You got to start stroking, guys.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
You got to start stroking guys, they'll get the
ratings up.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Once the previous group before them leave, once
they walk off the green, they'rehold out like countdown one
minute and then 45, 45,something like that.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yep, they need a visible clock.
I just think it has to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
There's no other way With heartbeats With heartbeats
in their ears.
Heartbeats Boom, boom, boomboom.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
That would be hilarious.
It gets faster.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I would love to see them have a clock on when they
show a group and hey, we'regoing to the seventh hole.
I would love to see them have aclock on when they show a group
.
You know, and hey, and we'regoing to the seventh hole, and
you know, this is the time thatthey've been on the course right
now and see and just show that.
You know, and maybe wake someof these guys up.
You know, and and but and.
(43:57):
A lot of people are saying youknow, they're not playing in
foursomes either.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
These are groups of two and three that are elite
players.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They're not looking for lost balls.
You know they're hitting it inthe fairways, they're hitting it
on the green.
They're putting and it's takenthem, you know, 15 minutes to
play a hole.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
Yeah, and their caddies know the green.
The caddies know the way thewind's blowing.
They know the green the caddiesknow the way the wind's blowing
, they know the, the forecast,they know all that shit.
Like, yeah, it's too long it istoo long.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
It's way too long and it's and it's gonna it's I mean
, they're already it reflectspoorly on the like game that we
play yeah in the real worldthey're gonna start losing
sponsors.
They're gonna start, you know,because they're not getting as
much tv time because they'rehaving to cut away and go to
(44:50):
golf channel because they've runthrough there a lot of time on
cbs or nbc and that's gonna pissoff sponsors.
Did you hear what happened withjason day?
Speaker 2 (44:59):
about the tape on the back of his jacket.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, yeah, joe from lofty was was commenting about
it today.
He was saying that, uh, thatthe tour has a size limit to how
big logos can be on your backthat's fucking stupid, first of
all, but yeah, all right yeah,it's stupid, but the sponsors
pay for certain things and youknow, on the back of jackets is
(45:27):
something that they pay for anduh, so they have to.
So somebody came out there.
I saw on colorado golf blogthey're saying the new malvon
tape is out.
We're in city royalty withmalvon in the middle.
But yeah, and it's stories likethat that aggravate the hell out
of people yeah, so it's.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
It's.
There's a lot of stupid shitabout golf, man, but it is a
great game and uh, I am veryprivileged to have found it and
found my friends that I get toplay the game with, and all the
people across the entire countryand all the courses I've gotten
to play because of the game ofgolf.
And uh, who cares about afucking logo?
(46:09):
You know, it's just, it's justridiculous dude like, and I
understand people pay for that,but the game is so much bigger
and better than that and andit's uh, it brings a lot of us
joy and peace and, uh, times ofhappiness, and they're just
bringing too much fuckingterrible shit to the game.
(46:30):
Like, play faster, enjoy thegame, enjoy your day, go get
yourself a bacon doublecheeseburger at the end of your
round and uh, look forward tothat.
Like absolutely They's just thegame play.
Good, I'm in it, I'm suremalbon loves.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Every time day gets asked to take it off.
Free publicity and most peopleare probably on their side yep,
yeah, yeah, yep, yep yep allright.
Uh, I'm gonna show one morething here, and I mean, dan, bro
, you look exhausted, you allright?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Okay, let's look over one time here.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
Dan works more on two days than I do.
Speaker 2 (47:14):
I was up at 3 am this morning.
Actually, I work at 4.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Woo, but I'm good that makes my 5 o'clock seem
nice.
All right, let me share this uhscreen with y'all.
Where'd it go?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
this one share it so this is, oh, banded trails
hoodie.
That's the new banded trailshoodie.
This, this is, uh, the newBandon Trails hoodie.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's the new Bandon Trails hoodie.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
This is the new VGN main page on the website.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Oh, he got the cover, dan got the cover.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
Dan Hodge is seven-time VGN champion, so I've
gone through and I've beendoing some updating on this, got
some nice photos here from theguys at the first event last
year A little spiel on why youshould join, giving some love to
the players of the year lastyear, showing some of the swag
(48:12):
that we got for it.
But one of the big things thatI was trying to make available
for everybody.
If you go to the schedule andthen you got our events here,
you click on tournament page.
So there's now a tournamentpage and there's going to be one
of these for every event.
Tells you a little bit about theevent T-box assignments, the
(48:35):
flight breaks down what thepoints are for the event,
typical purse payouts.
There's a link to our VGN Rulesof Play so everybody can
refresh that.
Over on the right-hand sidewe've got the Players of the
Year being read there with someadvertisements.
A little bit about the club.
The website establishedBasically a nice little
(48:56):
breakdown so everybody can seethe information there.
And then also, if you click onthe Field button, all the
players look at that spadesdivision 21 guys in there right
now.
So, uh, yeah, so uh, gonna be anice purse for that one oh, why
am I at the end fuck?
because you were the last personto pay so far for that.
(49:19):
This is all about money yeah,this is just, uh, you know, as
as the field gets set, um, so,yeah, some changes to the
website.
Uh, if, uh, you know, you haveany questions about it, that is
a place where you can go now tofind out a lot of information
(49:41):
regarding the league, going tokeep adding some more stuff to
it and eventually, what I'mgoing to do is pull back from
discord.
Not everybody uses discord.
I use discord because it'ssuper easy for me to update, but
I would rather spend a littlebit more time, have a page that
(50:02):
is a little bit moreuser-friendly, a little bit more
visible.
You know, last year nobodycould see any of that
information because it was onlyon Discord.
It wasn't available on thewebsite.
So somebody new trying to checkout the league didn't know what
we were doing or how we weredoing it, other than you know
the main page breaking it down.
So this should help get moreeyes on it, hopefully spurned a
(50:25):
little bit of interest.
You know and I I'm ready tocall out all these guys that you
know play tournament golf thatwhy they haven't come played
with us.
You know, I've been comparingus with the SNGA, the APT
Grint's no longer around butother events that play out here.
Our prices are very competitive, our purses are very
(50:48):
competitive, the courses are allthe same.
You know a lot of the rateswere cheaper and we have a lot
of good players that are playingin this.
There's a lot of good players inthe SNGA.
There's a lot of good playersin the APT.
There's a lot of good playersin the snga.
There's a lot of good playersin the apt.
There's a lot of good playersin the vgn.
I think a lot of these guyslike the smaller fields and I
(51:09):
think they have a better chanceto win.
I want to see goes those guyscome to vgn and compete against
15 to 20 people in that sameskill set not five, you know,
not five.
I want to see 20 players inevery division and come, come
show your talents, come showcaseit, come see what you got.
(51:30):
You know, trey is on a fuckingheater right now and he is the
man to beat.
You know, uh, matt nalasco'sback.
He's gonna be playing someevents, but you know we lost a
couple top guys, uh, that havegone on to do some other things
with their golf lives.
So I mean, there is room and wewant you.
(51:50):
We want to have the vgn be thebest competitive golf league in
town, but in order to do that,we need players.
So get your asses signed upthere's you know, 30 spots left
for our february 22nd event got.
Uh, three weeks left untilregistration ends, so there's
plenty of time to sign up and go, and I'm I'm doing this.
(52:12):
Anybody that signs up, newmember that signs up.
I've normally done it insegments, but I'm gonna offer
this to all the new members thatsigned up this year, because
we've only had 14 so far.
Last time this year we had 30,so we're missing some.
You sign up, you're a newmember, you pay full price for
the new membership and you winyour flight.
(52:33):
You get your membership back.
I refund you that money.
So great opportunity, if youthink you've got the skills, you
think you've got the game to,to come out and and win a flight
in your first event, and I'veI've refunded two people.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
So it can happen, yeah.
And also, if you think youdon't have the game, you could
still fucking do it too.
Like you can still win too.
Yeah, off is a crazy game.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
Crazy game and Sienna is going to be a fun first
round.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Then we head to Boulder, yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Then we go to Boulder City for two events in March we
play the Muni course and weplay Boulder Creek and then
Laughlin Ranch.
And all those events are openright now that you can register
for.
And, yeah, I'm excited.
I am excited for the season,excited.
I got the website done.
That's something I've beenworking on the last couple days.
That looks good.
(53:25):
Thank you.
Trey wants that title, thatcover, he wants the cover.
He wants Trey Sanders seventimes, eight times champion.
That's all I got.
If you guys got anything elsethat's on your mind anybody?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
got anything on their mind Wow.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Where's the I?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
mean I do, but it's too much.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
What's too much's too much, joe, is there any?
You know trying to plan outlike golf trips when you have
people that depend on you atyour home, and like trying to.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
You know it's just so I mean well what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
I did exaggerate that one a little bit, but Cam Kelly
did announce the next KingCollective event for next year.
Where is it at?
Yeah, the fields, lagrange,georgia, trying to find a way
there.
It is the week and afterLandman, so I have to finagle
(54:48):
back-to-back weekend golf trips.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
You got to take Katie out for a weekend.
Speaker 3 (54:54):
Well, I do have a friend in Tampa, kev, so he was
like I know that there's familyout here, why don't they just
hang here and then we'll driveup.
So that seems to be going wellcurrently.
Uh, we'll see if we can.
Speaker 5 (55:10):
We'll see if we can do it wow, you'll, it'll happen,
you'll make it happen.
That's the goal.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
That's the goal, always the goal.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Tell me about the course.
I don't know much about thecourse.
Tell me about it.
Speaker 3 (55:33):
The fields it is in LaGrange, georgia southwest of
Atlanta.
Georgia southwest of Atlanta.
Some people have said it's the18-hole sister course to
Sweetens Cove.
Looks like a bunch of fun.
Great logo it's got like adonkey with clubs.
(55:57):
They have a master chef outthere that can do some fantastic
food.
Not sell me on a golf course,though, joe.
I don't know much about it.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I mean, I've seen some of the golf course, but it
does look very sick.
I thought when you reposted itthat you knew all about it.
Like this was one of your….
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I do not know all about it.
I have seen things about it andI have not retained it fully,
but, um, yeah, I think the Ithink that the head pro, or I
think he was like gifted it toland from his like parents or
something like that, and hecreated a golf course and he, he
knows all about the grass and,um, I'd have to go back and
(56:43):
re-look into it, but it looksvery dope.
It looks like a very sick golfcourse and I've heard great
things about it already.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
That's a tough time of year.
You've got Landman, you've gotthat BG and Major Coyotes after
that.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, and I might not be able to do Pro-Aid Club
because that's Labor Day weekend.
As you know, retail Labor Dayweekend is tough.
I have a lot of things.
I got a lot of nuts and boltsand wrenches.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
That's going to be a hell of an Uber ride from
butt-fuck Nebraska to whereveryou got to go, because we're
going the other way.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
I might have to hitchhike a little bit.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
You're going to be standing on the road.
Let me go back.
Speaker 2 (57:27):
Can.
Speaker 3 (57:28):
I get a ride back to Omaha.
In the back of a farm truck.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
I'll substitute for you, Joe.
I'll high-five you.
Yeah just stay Sioux CityAirport.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Stay home.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
I know I'm doing Landman, I'm doing Landman,
landman is guaranteed, dan,we're ready for you.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Going to the pen, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
We got to figure it out.
That's the thing, bro.
We got to figure things outsometimes in life.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
I'm currently putting a puzzle together and, uh, I'll
figure it out there you gogotta gotta fill those, and
that's what life is puzzles,puzzles, bunch of puzzles bunch
of puzzles, all right, uh, here,joe, I'll give you.
I'll give you some music toroll us out.
How about that?
Speaker 3 (58:23):
Roll us out.
Yeah, roll us out.
Roll us out of the Chase.
The Daylight podcast.
Thanks for tuning in y'all.
We'll see you next week.
We're here every single Tuesday.
Jeremy, laughing at me on aWednesday no, it's not Wednesday
, it's fucking Tuesday.
Wednesday, it's fucking Tuesday, it's fucking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (58:47):
Hey, thanks for tuning in.
Tuesday on that podcast.
Speaker 3 (58:51):
Every single Tuesday we're talking golf.
Hope you enjoyed theconversation.
We'll see you next week.
It's episode number 475,000,until episode 475,001.
We'll see you next week Later.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Later.
Oh, that's hilarious you.
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