339: Recapping our Arizona Golf Adventures

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There's something almost magical about hitting the road with good friends and discovering unexpected golf treasures along the way. Our recent Arizona golf adventure delivered exactly that kind of experience – from world-class courses to surprisingly delicious roadside burritos, and everything in between.

The journey began at 2nd Swing Golf in Scottsdale, where we encountered a scene that would warm any golf enthusiast's heart: dozens of people waiting outside before opening time, eager to explore the incredible selection inside. Once through the doors, we discovered a wonderland of golf equipment – private fitting bays, an expansive putting green with PuttView technology, walls lined with every imaginable brand of used clubs, and even rare Scotty Cameron collections that had us geeking out completely.

But the real highlight was playing We-ko-pa's Cholla course, where the conditions defied belief. Despite having been punched just two weeks prior, the Bermuda greens were flawless – a testament to the incredible maintenance team. The course layout perfectly utilized the natural elevation changes, creating a dynamic playing experience that had us all agreeing this might have been the best golf of our trip. Special shoutout to Todd in outside services, whose exceptional attention to detail elevated our experience from great to unforgettable.

Our stay in Payson at the Mansion on Main provided the perfect basecamp for exploring private courses, Chaparral Pines and The Rim Club – exclusive venues we accessed through the Beautiful Golf Courses and Fore Hadley Foundation fundraiser. These courses sparked friendly debates among us about routing, scenery, and playability, with The Rim's dramatic "hold my beer" back nine featuring some truly spectacular holes. We're already planning how to bid in this year's fundraiser to discover more hidden gems.

The trip reminded us why these getaways matter so much – they're not just about the golf, but about disconnecting from daily responsibilities and reconnecting with what makes this game special. As we told each other repeatedly throughout the episode, if you haven't taken a golf trip with friends lately, do it. Do it for your game, do it for the memories, but most importantly, do it for your mental health.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:22):
What is up, everybody , Welcome, welcome, welcome to
another episode of the ChasingDaylight Podcast.
We had ourself a little roadtrip and we're back.
Time was had, time was had.
We made it back safe and sound,and so we're here to talk about
it.
So, yeah, we'll be chattingabout our road trip down to

(00:46):
Arizona.
A whole bunch of shit went on,had a blast.
It was fantastic.
Joe, your mic's on mute, justin case you didn't know that.
Okay, I do want to say thank youto Bernard Garson for coming on
the show.
That interview was absolutelyfantastic.
If I do have to say so myselfmyself, I've been a fan of his

(01:08):
work for a very long time.
Uh, joe's rocking his puttergrip.
I put a garson back on todayafter talking with him because I
I believe what he's doing isright and uh, yeah.
So I did a little tinkeringwith it to get it to exactly how
I want it and I'm pretty happywith it.
Been rolling a lot of putts outthere today.
So if you did not check thatout, it's the last episode we

(01:30):
just had.
It is available on all thepodcast formats.
It's also out there on YouTube,the video, so you can watch
that if you want to.
It was a great interview,learned a ton about him that I
did not know, and you'reprobably going to be hearing a
lot more about Garson on thisshow.
We're talking with them,working out some agreements to

(01:52):
have them, you know, run some adspots and be kind of a
supporter, sponsor of the showin a way that we can bring some
information to you guys aboutthe grips.
Maybe do some giveaways, offeryou some discount codes, things
like that.
So pay attention to that.
Also want to thank, of course,the golf stop, the indoor track

(02:13):
man range down on St Rose andhere in here in West Henderson,
a great facility to go practiceright now, especially since it's
so damn hot outside.
I was putting out back and Iwas like this is stupid, blazing
hot, blazing hot.
So go get yourself some indoorpractice, great place to hang
out and play some track bandgames or work on your game.

(02:34):
And then, of course, las VegasGala Soup Store and Roars Our
friends.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Our friends.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
How are you guys doing this evening?
Are you all back to normal Kind?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
of Yep all back to normal.
Kind of Yep Back to normalAlready hit the range this
morning.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Very much back to normal, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, I don't know, I was wiped for some reason.
I don't know if it was justsitting that long.
You know, driving back and thennot doing anything.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
I just crashed hard.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Crashed hard to get a night.
I'm glad we did not do the showlast night, because it would
not have been a good show.
In other news, thanks to Gosh,I can see his portfolio, his
name.
He gave me some tips last weekon um running, uh, giveaways

(03:32):
using stream song or stream yardor software.
So, uh, right now in thebackground we have something
running that is collecting allthe comments.
So if you're watching the showand you're commenting, uh, if
you chime in and you participate, we'll be doing this for a
couple weeks to test it out tosee how it does.
We'll randomly be selectingsomebody that was participating

(03:52):
in the show and we'll be givingaway stuff Still trying to
figure out exactly what it iswe'll be giving away, but it
will be beneficial for you toengage with us in the show.
So please do so, and I thinkthat's all I got going on as far
as getting shit out the way, doyou guys want to start with

(04:13):
Dennis Riccio?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Dennis Riccio.
I don't know if they're readyfor that yet.
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So we were staying at the mansion on main in payson
and um, it didn't have the bestentertainment.
As far as television, it was areally really weird tv
subscription that it wasn't likelive tv but it it was TV.

(04:43):
There was like a boxing channel, there was a PGA channel, there
was a pickleball channel.
Hey, quinn, say hi.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Hi Hi Quinn.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Can you say golf, golf?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Go Really really weird TV, though, and we
couldn't find anything to watchand you had to log into your
netflix account, so we said thehell with that, and so we
started just watching youtubevideos and stumbled across
dennis riccio and, uh, I let mebring up just just so, uh,

(05:20):
everybody here can see what isthis is all about.
Uh, so here's our guy here.
Oh, yes, yeah, so uh, I, Istopped it at my favorite part
to this, this smile on theapproach shot to clear that
bunker uh, the audio doesn'tplay through, but this guy,

(05:47):
welcome to hole number two.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Short game legend for sure, minutes from four feet.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Best four foot putter in the world.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
He was 18 For 18 from four feet.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
While doing this.
I'm Dennis Riccio.
Welcome to hole number three.
Friendly Glenn, you may betempted to cut the corner On
this dog leg left.
I'm Dennis Riccio.
Welcome to hole number three.
Friendly Glenn, you may betempted to cut the corner on
this dogleg left par four, butbeware of the bunkers on the
left.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's hilarious, it's content gold, Although there is
plenty of fairway past them thesafer play is to the right where
the fairway slopes to the south.
I wish I had the audio becauseright here at this time, Make
sure to take an extra club toclear the ravine, to separate
the tee and green and to conquerthe slide uphill slope.
If you're hitting into the wind, you may need to hit even

(06:32):
harder.
A large green makes even aslight guarantee shot.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
I can hear the audio.
Oh, you can.
Yeah, it hits the plane.
He just said it too.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh, let me put it back, I'm Dennis.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Riccio and to conquer the slight uphill slope.
If you're hitting into the wind, you may need to hit even
harder.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
A large green makes even a slightly errant tee shot
playable.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'm Dennis Riccio.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Welcome to hole number four yeah, so uh, yeah,
I'll put a link down into that.
So, uh, you can, can, can watchuh, Dennis Riccio, Cause it, it
, it was entertaining, the dudecouldn't miss, uh could not miss
.
And man, it was hilarious.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So but great course tour.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
But man, the video does not do that either course
justice, no crazy how differentit looked I had a couple
problems with a few of the holes, trying to remember them, um, I
think what I think once you getto the fifth and sixth hole,
all the holes on the rim arepretty rememberable or memorable
.
But the two, three and fourwere kind of I don't know.

(07:50):
I kind of got lost in them.
I don't know if it was the heat, the no food or the
frustrations with the course orwhat Just wasn't into it.
But yeah, it took a littlewhile for me.
But let's start from thebeginning.
Let's go back a day before that.

(08:15):
Um, we drove down to scottsdale, which super easy drive from
vegas, it's four and a halfhours.
Um, there wasn't a lot oftraffic, it was a sunday morning
and, uh, we, no issues, noissues getting down there, uh.
But we decided to stop in atsecond swing golf before we
headed over to wikipa and danmyself and jeremy had never been

(08:36):
there, joe had, and he wastelling us about it and
everything he said was true.
And then some, that is anamazing facility.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, this is insane I couldn'tbelieve how much golf was in
there the, the private fittingbays, the putting bays, the

(08:58):
regular bays, the huge puttinggreen with the putt view from
above so you can see the line,use putters for miles that you
can test.
Um, they had.
Oh, I found the.
We went back, that'll, that'llbe told later.
But we went back and I foundall the shafts which I was just
like, oh man, I should have beenover here for a long time

(09:20):
looking at the shafts, um, butthey have a scotty cameron
collection.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
They've got a paint collection I think one of the
craziest things, though, beforewe even get into like the shop,
is you pull up on a sunday, theyopen at 11 and there is 20 cars
out there and 40 people waitingto get in before they even open
like.
I have never seen that at agolf shop in my entire life

(09:46):
people waiting to get into thestore and yeah, a lot, not like
a lot, not like joe golfer dudeit was a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Black friday-esque yeah exactly, exactly.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
It was great happens.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
They were saying that it's like that every Saturday
and Sunday.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yep, yep.
So we saw the my Girlcollection.
They had every my Girl ScottyCameron ever has put out in a
case with all their head covers.
That was awesome to see.
Bunch of circle Ts.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
He might have been there, he's in line, he might
have been there in line.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Uh so uh, jordy knows , jordan knows and then then in
the back and the the back iswhere it is, that's, I mean just
wall and wall and wall afterwall of used clubs, putters,
drivers, fairy woods, hybrids,irons, wedges, single iron sets,
anything you can think ofanything every brand every brand

(10:50):
.
I mean we saw jp wedges, edisonwedges, uh, all the main brands,
of course, but it was, it wasimpressive, absolutely
impressive.
And then there's a workshop inthe back and that's where lamont
man is set up mancrafted, ifanybody is familiar with him.
I've been a fan of lamont'swork for years and he wasn't

(11:12):
there on sunday, um, so when weleft and then went to go play
week about, we decided I thinkwe're going to come back here
before we go back to Vegas.
So that was the plan.
And so after we played all thegolf, we went back and then I
got to meet Lamont and went in,shook his hand, chatted him up
for a while, which was amazing,just a legend in the putting

(11:36):
world.
It was a blast to see him.
So that was a thrill for me.
It was so, so damn cool to seehis work and him doing it.
It was, it was pretty damn cool.
So, but, uh, then we went to uh,weekopaw after that and played

(11:58):
some golf and we were chattingin the car after everything and
I think for the most parteverybody agreed that week of
Paul was pretty special.
So I originally had ChaparralPines is my favorite, but as
I've been pondering it over thelast couple of days, I think one

(12:21):
of the reasons I in a cardidn't rate week opah better was
because familiar with that typeof golf, because we play piute
a lot and so I was going throughthe videos jeremy sent me and I
was like why did jeremy send mepictures from piute?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
like when did I play jeremy?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I was like, oh, that's week opah yeah, but I was
like I go, you know I it's myfavorite place to play golf here
in town, you know, piute, andbecause the conditions are
amazing and I was like so then Istarted thinking again and
looking through back throughsome of the photos and I'm like
you know that that probably isthe the best golf that we played

(13:01):
.
Um doesn't have the crazyscenic views, but the golf was.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
The golf was tremendous, tremendous yeah, so
I feel the same way yeah,conditions were amazing
impeccable, impeccableconditions the.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You know, uh, dan kind of threw down the the.
The line in the sand said wecan only talk about the golf, we
can't rate anything else.
But I'm breaking script.
I thought the pro shop wasfantastic, the outside services
was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Shout out Todd.
Shout out Todd.
That's the man Outside servicesa week of pause.
Shout out Todd.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's the man dude, incredible Todd you're the man
dude.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Incredible.
Todd, you're the man you betterbe listening.
I hope you're listening.
He said he was going to.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
I'm going to get framed and it will be up here on
the wall shortly.
The signage on the course.
You never didn't know where togo.
Everything was clearly marked.
They had these little rest stopgrills and water stations.
It was a very, very well donegolf course, from the moment you

(14:14):
pulled up until the moment youleft.
A lot of great selection.
This is one of the hats that Igot.
I was impressed from the momentwe got there to the moment we
left.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
End to end, incredible golf experience Pro
shop practice facility, twocourses, casino, outside
services.
Todd was fantastic.
Water turn shack, impeccableconditions, well-designed course
.
Uh would.
You can go there again andagain and again and still learn

(14:52):
new things.
A lot of blind t-shots, but youknow, you learn it.
It was, it was amazing amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
There was some great elevation changes.
Like, piu doesn't have a ton ofelevation changes, yeah, yeah,
but this had you're, you're,you're up on a mesa and then
you're down in a canyon, thenyou're back up on a mesa and
then you're down in a canyon,then you're it was.
It was really well done.
They really used the land greatand, uh, I had a phenomenal

(15:22):
putting day out there.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
whatever it is, was that Bermuda greens?
Was that what they were?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I mean I, I couldn't miss.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
The crazy thing is they punched the greens two
weeks ago.
They closed the course for twoweeks.
There's no play.
They do it and then they let itrecover.
You would never even know theywere punched, never even could
have told.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I wouldn't have believed you if you told me no,
they didn't.
I mean it was so good, thefairways were lush.
I mean the bunkers wereoutstanding, the tee boxes were
great.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
My only problem with Week of Paw Go ahead they didn't
have chapstick.
It was way too fucking hot, itwas hot.
We started at 12.30 was our teatime.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
It was too hot, it was hot Thank God there was a
little bit of.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Just to clarify anybody listening, that was the
Cholla course we played.
They have two courses there weplayed the Cholla.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, and I've wanted to play Saguaro for so long and
we played cholla becausesaguaro was closed and I thought
I was going to be pretty bummedbecause saguaro is corcoran
shop, but man did cholla, umcholla.
Really I feel like I'm probablygonna like cholla more than

(16:42):
saguaro.
Like I feel like that's gonnahappen when I get the
opportunity to play Saguaro.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Because I enjoyed Cholla that much.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Dan will be back there in October, so he's going
to play it and he'll let us know.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
As incredible as Cork Crenshaw is.
I have a hard time with CorkCrenshaw Because I know it's way
flatter on the other side,making a better course than
Cholla.
So I got to get back and playSeguara but Cholla blew me away.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, you weren't the only one that blew away.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Also an incredible finisher.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
A great opener, an incredible finisher.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
what a way to start and end your round.
Let me bring up I got a pictureof that last hole.
Let me, uh, let me find it realquick.
Are you gonna be slacking likesomething?
It's such a such a good closinghole.
Okay, it doesn't want to work,all right.
Oh, here we go.

(17:49):
All right, hang on like thoseweek apart oh, you got pictures,
you got pictures yeah, I got apictures.
I got a picture.
I got a picture of the closinghole.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
It's thinking During golden hour.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Look at that.
I mean it's absolutely stunning.
Stunner of a hole.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
I mean, I remember when he pulled up to that,
everyone was like oh.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Oh, dang it.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Sorry, oh yeah, it Sorry, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Matt's in the bottom.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Matt's bottom square Welcome to bottom square.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Circle gets the square.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Get there, there we go.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Now we're back to normal.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
I mean it's pictures, right.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh yeah, thank you very much.
Oh, my goodness, so that wasall, dan, that was all sorry,
almost god.
Holy shit, I can't believe Ialmost did that.
uh, as some of you may have seen, we've been sharing greenly
green house 13 a uh, I've beensharing some photos, uh, that

(19:02):
were taken taken by a new friendof ours, ethan from Golden Hour
Photography, golden Hour Golf.
He has just started thisbusiness adventure where he is
taking photos of people on grouptrips, and Dan and I were at
the Raiders practice and I wasjust scrolling on Instagram

(19:22):
waiting before the practicestarted.
Yeah, and his account popped upand wait hang on jeremy travis
matthew.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
What?

Speaker 1 (19:34):
jeremy shut up, shut up and his account popped up and
I was like, oh, I don't know,he's in arizona and so I sent
him a message.
I'm like, hey, you know, youwant want to come out and take
some photos first.
He's like, yeah, absolutely sogreat guy, him.
And Joe hit it off because he'sinto hip hop, like Joe was.
But he followed us around forthe front nine and took photos

(19:59):
and I've been sharing some ofthem on my page and on the
Chasing Daylight page.
But it sharing some of them onmy page and on the chasing
daylight page but uh, it wasawesome to have you know.
I said in the post today it wasnice to not have to worry about
taking pictures and havingsomebody there to take pictures
for you, because we were able to, you know, focus on the golf
and not have to worry about, oh,did we get this shot?
Or to get that shot, and so itwas great.

(20:20):
Uh, does, does great work.
Uh, so you know, again, that'llbe something that's tagged in
the show notes where you canreach out to him and uh,
definitely, awesome, definitely.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Like that's the first time, like I had that for like
a group experience and I knowthere's a lot of people out
there that do it, you know, likedocument your buddy's trip
while you're playing golf onyour golf trip.
And uh no, he was, was a greatdude, great dude and he's like
don't worry about me, I'm aninja and dude, he was

(20:51):
spectacular, spectacular.
Shut up Golden Hour Golf Co, Imean, and the pictures we've
seen so far are fantastic.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, he did some good.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
And he's a golfer.
You can tell he's an actualgolfer.
He's not just trying to takecapitalize on the boom of golf.
He's a golfer.
He was telling us where to hitit and things like that, and
like I felt like he was a friendthat was there to take pictures
of his other friends playinggolf and 100 totally totally
worth it yeah, absolutely so, uh, yeah again, I'll tag him in

(21:22):
the show notes.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
So then, after we got done at Weak Paw, we headed
north up to Payson.
It's an hour 15, hour 20 fromwhere we were right Is that what
it was 49, 50 minutes, 59, 56.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, it was 54.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Oh yeah, from.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Weak Paw.
It was a little closer.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, that's right Half hour for Bob.
Yeah, bob yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Bob, from the week apart, was a little closer.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, half half hour for bob.
Yeah, yeah, bob would be therein 25 minutes.
Um, payson, small little, smalllittle town.
Uh, we tripped out becausethere was elk in the almost in
the parking lot at the safewaywhere we stopped.
Um, something you know, youdon't see around here.
Uh, elk walking around thestreet.
They were gnawing on some grasson the side of the intersection

(22:07):
.
And big too, big elk, notlittle elk, big boys, big ol'
boys, big ol' boys, big boys.
We checked into our mansion, themansion on Main.
Shout out, dan, for findingthat spot really cool place.

(22:27):
I don't know if I'd call it amansion, but maybe in the payson
landscape it was a mansion yeahyeah uh, but uh, really cool
spot, uh it was.
It was great big kitchen, bigoutdoor patio with outdoor
kitchen.
Had a pickleball court, which Ihave known.
I'd have brought the pickleballstuff, but I don't think we

(22:47):
would have played.
Anyways, yeah, grilled somesteaks and chilled.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Oh sorry, Didn't mean to do that.
Take this guy anywhere.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
And yeah, had some little controversy with the bunk
beds.
Dad ended up sleeping in therafters, uh, but it all worked
out well.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
But uh, the thing is is like if, if, if you've never
taken a golf trip with yourfriends like you, just gotta go,
do it.
Have to, you know you can stayin the trailer on the side of in
side of the state highway ingeorgia and feel like you're
about to die because somebody'sbreaking into the back window
and it's the best, just go do it, get out there and do it yeah

(23:37):
do it for your health, do it foryour mental health, do it for
you.
Sure, I came back I came backand I feel so less stressed
because I'm stressed every daypicking the kids up every day or
taking the kids to school,going to work, picking the kids
up, feeding them deer I feel somuch better now.
It's just like a release.
It really is.

(23:59):
Most days I'm like I gotta getthere, make sure I get there on
time, I gotta do this, I gottado this.
And then it's like, okay, I getthere when I get there, and
that's gonna last for maybemaybe a couple months, but it's
good, it's it's good, it's great, go do it go do it, book it now

(24:20):
go buy something like stevejack.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, go buy something Like.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Steve and Jack showed that video.
Go buy something Go do it, gospend that money Go, spend that
money Go do it.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah, but this trip would not have been possible
without the amazing folks atBeautiful Golf Courses and the
Fort Hadley Foundation, thefundraiser that they put on
every year every year every year.
It's absolutely incredible.
Uh, we're going to be hypingthis one up as much as possible.

(24:53):
It takes place on black friday,but you'll start seeing they're
already.
I was chatting with them theother day.
They're already starting to puttogether stuff for this year
and basically it's it's golfpackages at places that you may
not be able to get on like thetwo courses we played in payson,
chaparral pines and the rimgolf club are private courses.

(25:16):
Uh, they're not open to thepublic.
You can get on as guests, youknow, I'm sure somehow.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
But I meet a friend.
I got met.
I got somebody sent me amessage and they were like my
parents live there.
I've been trying to play rimclub forever and he's like I'm
gonna move there.
I gotta meet somebody.
I was like dude, beautiful golfcourses for having like every
year.
Every year, you have theopportunity to take that chance

(25:39):
and bid on something you'vewanted to play for a long time.
You just gotta put your moneywhere your mouth is, and it's a
great cause and just do it, andthat's what we did and we didn't
.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I mean, had you guys heard of the rim club or
chaparral pines?
I mean, dan, you may havechaparral pines, not a rim club.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean, I've seen pictures, but no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
I did not even know, yeah, I, I had no idea, um, what
to expect.
Uh, as far as you know there,you know there's not a lot of
people in Payson, it's a smalltown, nope, and so I wasn't sure
what to expect.
And the golf courses wereimpressive, they were impressive
Now we did run into a couplelittle minor snags.

(26:20):
On Mondays there's not a lot ofaction don't get me started, oh
, joe's are already.
I can feel it coming.
Get that soapbox out, joe.
Uh, but there's not a lot ofaction going on on mondays, uh,
at at private courses.
A lot of private courses acrossthe country are closed on

(26:41):
mondays.
It gives, uh, you know, thestaff and everybody a chance to
have a day off or get caught upfor some maintenance or whatever
, stock the rooms and all that.
So I wasn't sure if we weregoing to be able to play on a
Monday, but they were open,thankfully.
Yeah, but there was no food.

(27:03):
I mean, we wanted to show up alittle early, get some breakfast
maybe, and and hit some balls.
Nope, you could just hit balls.
Uh, afterwards some lunch?
Nope, nothing's open.
Okay, well, we'll go across tothe rim okay so we go, we get
done nothing nothing.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
I mean, they didn't have anything nothing they
didn't have a, not a water, mayoor anything, nothing, yeah, and
water and a in a cooler that wefound on 10 yeah

Speaker 1 (27:34):
it was like wow, nothing like yeah, and the guys,
like they said they had twoemployees that day yeah him
inside and the outside car guy.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
And so we said if there's nobody playing, we're
just going to leave and comeback at two instead of one.
He's like, yeah, that's fine.
So we went back into town, hitup a spot it wasn't a bucket of
pasta, but it was a little pizzajoint across the street and had
some pizza and wings and somechicken sandwiches.

(28:07):
And I went back out to the golfcourse, stopped off at a Speedy
Mart slash Speedway slash7-Eleven, stopped, grabbed a
bunch of drinks and went backout and played um, it's all
right.
All right, let's talk aboutchaperone pines.
Because yeah, it was.

(28:28):
I mean, it's border number onefor me.
It's.
It's really close.
It could be one week of fall,could be one.
They're both right there.
Joe didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
No I, I liked it.
I think it was the prettiest.
It was the prettiest of all ofthem is the most beautiful
course we played, no doubt aboutit, no doubt no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Prettiest course we played that's all he's gonna say
.
Yeah, well, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, I'm gonna, I'm rebuttaling, I'm rebuttaling no,
he didn't like, he didn't likethe routing, he didn't like
driving through theneighborhoods on a couple holes,
um.
But you know, when you're on amountaintop sometimes you're
going to have to do that.
You can't just go from hole tohole.
So that didn't bother me.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I can go on a full tangent.
Go, let's hear it.
I want to hear it.
Yeah, I was so hungry thatmorning.
Nothing was open.
Okay, the restaurant was notopen.
I was very hungry, you couldn'tget chapstick.
I could not get chapstick.
My lips were chapped because wehad week of paw and I was just

(29:38):
dry.
I drank 80 bottles of water, aweek of paw and six high noons
and I was just like spongebobout there.
I needed fucking chapstick andI go 80 of chapstick, no, no
chapstick yes, yes, greatlythat's, that's insane.
No, okay, I was more like Ineeded a snickers right, no

(30:00):
snickers, no peanuts, no,nothing like.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And the dude was we need a joant.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
We need a Joe name when he's angry.
No, I'm not.
I don't get angry.
Bob becomes Robert.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
I can deal with hangry.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh, you were bitter.
You were bitter, but it wasmultiple things.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
It's not just because I was hungry, I was fine.
I didn't ask for one ofJeremy's hard-boiled eggs.
I can deal with that.
But when it's you're hungry andthen there's no chapstick and
the bathroom is locked from theinside, oh, you can go around.
You can go around, joe wasn'thangry, he was annoyed I was.

(30:36):
Yeah, I was he was annoyed forsure, and then the pro shop
sucks like.
If there was like a dope asshat in there, that probably
would have calmed me down alittle bit.
No dope hats, pro Shaps sucked.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
I didn't think it was that bad.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I didn't think it was great, but it wasn't.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
I mean they had a ton of it was trash.
It was trash.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
I liked the shirt.
I got a shirt.
Yeah, you bought one.
I don't think it was no, itwasn't as bad as the rim.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
The rim was off the rim had clubs at least I think
rims was actually nicer it waslike a dnf less election, less
election, but nicer.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
For sure it was nicer but they had um bridgestone
hats.
I mean, who the fuck wears aBridgestone hat?

Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, but for me it's like you know.
I've been looking forward totaking this trip for a long time
and it's like I can't get abreakfast burrito, I can't get a
high noon right now.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I can't get an iced tea at the moment.
And if we play the first holeand then there's a minute and a
half half drive around a cornerand he's like, oh, this is
fucking okay, the first.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
The first hole was incredible the first hole.
I was like, oh, this shit issick.
The first hole.
I was like this shit is dope.
And then we, and then seriouslywe took a minute and a half
drive around a corner.
I was was like what the fuck isthis?
The next hole was fantastic.
I loved the next hole, tooGreat hole.

(32:11):
It just hit me like why did weleave this hole and then go a
minute and a half later and nowwe're here?
It was just compounding.
It was just compounded.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Did that bother any of you guys?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
yeah, I like that the holes are separate.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
I like that too, but it was just.
It was just a compounding issue.
It was compound compoundinginterest.
You know what I mean do youfeel like he?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
lose like momentum in in that minute and a half drive
or what is it?
About that that you don't likeI don't think he gets lost.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He gets lost.
He doesn't know where he's at Igot lost.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, I like to know where I am.
I like to.
I like to see the golf courseand know how it goes, like I
like to be able to.
When I finish a golf course, Ilike to be able to know where I
was and know how I ended and therouting just like fucked me up
and that's that's me right, likeit's in my head.
I like to be able to play agolf course one time and know

(33:17):
which I.
I like to be able to replay myround and chaparral pines in my
head.
Chapral Pines.
I have fucking no idea where Iwas.
Like I know one, I know two, Iknow nine or ten, and it's just
nine and ten and then I just Iget lost.

(33:38):
That's my thing, right.
Like I don't know where I wasin my round.
I could.
I like to be able to go backbecause I don't keep score.
I like to go back and be ableto like oh, I hit that shot
there, I hit that shot there, Ihit that shot there.
I can't piss score everybody,yeah, and I was completely
fucking lost and I also did notlike that we were playing slow.

(34:03):
We weren't playing slow, but tothe members we were playing
slow.
We weren't playing slow, but,like to the members, we were
playing slow and I I always feltlike somebody was on our backs
the entire time.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
They were.
Yeah, they were I had to lookback, cause that ball was like
15 yards behind us, rolling tous.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, we're not slow players, we're not, not at all
we played in four hours.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, we're not still players and I just felt like
there was all never seen beforein our life.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
That is blind four hours is doable yeah, it's super
acceptable that's the thing forme, if I cannot go through the
entire course.
In my head, the routing wassucked, and that's me.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
It's funny you say that because I used to, and me
and Andrew Ganey used to talkabout this all the time, because
he has just doesn't rememberanything.
Nothing you know, and we wereplaying one time and he hit a
really ridiculous chip shot thatgot close to the ground.

(35:05):
I'm like oh oh man, that's justlike the one you hit at cabot
links.
And he's like what the fuck areyou talking about?
And I'm like you don't rememberthat shot.
And he's like, no, I couldn'ttell you one hole on that whole
course what it's like.
I was like, oh my god, I said Icould tell you every shot I've
ever hit right, but like in thelast year and a half two years,
that's like's like it's startingto go away.

(35:28):
Like I was sitting in bed lastnight thinking about the rim
Cause I was like you know, thefirst.
Like like two, three, four,five are just kind of numb to me
.
I don't know what is changingin me to where I don't have that
ADHD, where I have to.

(35:48):
You know that I have toremember every single shot, what
I hit the yardage everything,but it doesn't bother me anymore
.
I'm like, oh well, I guess itwasn't that memorable, if I
can't remember it.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
But do you remember, like, if you hit a good shot, do
you remember a hole, that youhit an extra special shot?
Yeah, I think on 11,.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
I hit that hybrid that was at the top of the hill.
I don't remember 11.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Oh, there you go.
No, I'm talking about at therim.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
I was at the rim.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
That was the one in the video I got where.
Dan drove it the long par five.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
No, no, no, it was a mile.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
It was a short par.
It was not a short par four,but a par four.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
that it was the one that went to the right.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
You could have carried over the canyon to the
fairway.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, good birdie, dan birdied it.
It was the one where I wasshort and Dan was like never
change.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
That was 11.
Joe went for a full flop and itwent off.
I was like 20 feet.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
The easiest of chip shots, almost flat.
Four feet of fairway in frontof him, about 18 feet of green,
and must have flopped it and Iwas like never changed then I
made like a 12 foot putt yeahbut as you know, there's,
there's some of those holes thatI that just don't don't

(37:19):
remember, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
But and it's not like I'm trying to forget them, it's
just you know that just didn'tlike the the, the third hole.
I just I couldn't know, theyjust didn't like the the, the
third hole.
I just I couldn't.
I'm like why can't I rememberthe third hole?
And so I was watching dennisriccio and I'm like I'm like,
wait a minute.
Oh, okay, I remember.
Now that's the one where welost.
Everybody was right on theopposite side of the bunkers.

(37:42):
I said, okay, I remember.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
The only really bad hole out there at the rim was,
well, we're on Chapel Rock Pines, I still, but one was the worst
hole out there and that'sbecause it was just straight
away and that's what they tellyou, like just welcome to the
golf course, and that's that'slike where my brain is right,
like you know, and that's that'slike where my brain is right.

(38:08):
Like you know, we all weretired, also eating pizza from
the pizza factory.
Well, you know, full tired.
We already played 18 and youknow it was just a welcoming and
, if you think about it right,it's like what a fantastic
course to welcome you to yoursecond 18 of the day after being
super tired.
Okay, here you are Opening holeStraight ahead, Nothing special

(38:32):
, let's get back in the grooveof things.
And then it works its wayaround into the back nine and
then you're like on, you knowthe back.
You're like holy shit, Likethat's what I love.
It told the story it and it fitthat second round perfectly of

(38:53):
the day.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
We were fucking tired yeah, I said it was like okay,
let's get back into the grooveof things.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Guys, I know you're tired.
Here's a straightforward onefor you I said it was a.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
It was a.
Hold my beer back.
Nine.
I think, Dan, you're right.
It started at hole six.
I think it was five.
Five is a short hole that youcan drive the green with a big
tee shot.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Sorry on three for me , I don't remember three.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Three, the par five.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Three was I'm saying I didn't remember it, the one
where we all, the one you lostthe ball, yeah yeah and uh, then
four was the par four or threeand then, then it was five short
four.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's what I said whole
five, um, actually no two.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
It started on two for me, because that was the one
that went up to the right and Ihit it through the trees.
Remember it was up to the rightand you guys were all left.
Yep, it did, it was.
There was nothing basic aboutthat, course, except one, except
one.
One was the only easy,straightforward hole and it was

(40:01):
like a, I'm telling you, sorry,getting emotional rim was dope.
Yeah, it was like a, I'mtelling you okay, sorry, getting
emotional.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Rim was dope.
Yeah, it definitely like it wasa whole, a whole my beer.
Let me show you what's comingup, because the the back nine
was.
It was spectacular.
It was back to, I think, the.
I think the conditions atchaparral pines were better.
Yes, I agree with that.
I think the the tighter holesat chaparral Pines were better.
Yes, I agree with that.
I think the tighter holes atChaparral Pines made the golf a

(40:29):
little bit more challenging.
Totally, there wasn't as many Idon't know where I'm going
shots at Chaparral Pines asthere was at the rim, in my
opinion.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Hold on what I think there was more More at.
Chaparral, you don't know whereyou're going.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
There was some from the tees we were playing.
There was some that youcouldn't tell if you were going
left or right.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I thought there was more at the rim, though.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Oh no, Not at all.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
I don't think so.
I felt like there was, I think,the par fives, because there
was at Chaparral Pines the parfives, because there was at at
chaparral pines the par fives.
There's two shots on that holeeach time that you don't know
where it's going yeah, that oneof that.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
First, that one par five was downhill where it's.
It's like a guaranteed threeshots, unless you oh oh yeah,
that was a nutty asshole, yeahit was a very sick hole, but the
being able to go for it in twowas not a possibility.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
I didn't think.
No, not at all.
There was so many funky assholes.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You would have to be so far right and so far long to
have even look at the hole.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
So many funky holes at Chaparral.
Chaparral C-H-A-P-P-A-R-L.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
No, that's not right.
Right, don't do that again.
Um, but I I thought the thetighter, the tighter layout made
it a little bit morechallenging golf rim was a lot
more wide open.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
I did like I did, like a chaparral, that like when
you hit you thought you werelike I can't, I have to go right
here.
But there was way more room inareas where it's like if you
play it a second time, obviouslyit's going to be more enjoyable
because you know the course.
But yeah, off the tee,chaparral is insane, but if you

(42:17):
know it, you know there's roomto the left, there's room to the
right, here and there they eventold us a couple of times, like
11 is not a driver hole.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
So I get up there and I had 18 birdies and I'm
looking and I'm like, yeah, well, it's 275, 280 to the end of
the fairway and it's kind ofuphill.
I said I'm, I'm fine withdriver.
Well, what you don't know isthat at like 240 the hill peaks
out and then it's downhill foranother 50 yards and so, yeah,
you hit it to that spot but thenit's running out and going past
and I was in the rough, I wasblocked out by a tree, I had no

(42:51):
chance to get to the green.
I'm like you know, that's wherenext time I play that hole I
would not hit driver off theteam.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I just think one of the greatest things about golf
courses because everyone's sodifferent, everybody plays so
different right is like I don'tthink chaparral provides you
with opportunities to havedifferent thoughts on the tee.
Like think of that.
That par five, what was that?
Six, 15, 16, the one where itwent?

(43:18):
You had to hit a 200 yard shot,like that was it?
That was your only option offthe tee, that was it?

Speaker 5 (43:24):
oh yeah yeah, that you don't have it.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, you don't have an option off the tee.
I think it was 50, and I thinkthat's one of the great things
about golf course architectureis like you're provided with two
choices okay, pick one or theother, take it on, play safe.
And the only option on that teewas to hit a 220 yard shot.

(43:48):
That was it.
There's no other option unlessyou can carry it 350 yards like
jeremy.
That's it yeah, and down no,jeremy's the big baller now no
no, I'm not, he's absolutely.
J Jeremy's elite Dude.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I don't know, because what you did on 14 at the rim
was pretty freaking amazing.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
That was obscene that was nasty, call the church,
cross it out.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
The 14th hole at the rim is, uh, straight line 380
yards to the front of the greenthere is a little bit yeah, from
the back t is 380 did you guysplay the back t.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
No, we hit from your t.
We played up.
I thought you guys went backand hit from the back tee.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, I think it was like 360.
So still, Still.
I mean.
So we all hit our tee shots andthen Dan and Jeremy went oh,
we're going to go back andre-tee and go for it, since we
know where it's at now.
And so they go back.
I hit my approach, joe hits hisapproach.
I'm videoing it.
This is a video I postedearlier today and as Joe's balls

(45:04):
coming into the green, you seeJeremy's ball come into the
green as well from 360 yardsaway.
Yeah, that was insane.
That was an incredible golfshot.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Well, thanks to Dan for going first and showing me
the way, because it was.
I mean, we still had no idea.
Really.
We had sort of picked a targetand it ended up being good.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
And what about some of the houses, the?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
houses were amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Holy crap, there is some hidden cartel money going
on at the rim, good Lord.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
That's a lot of that missing people money bro, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
So I would recommend everybody pay attention to the
beautiful golf courses.
Uh, the four hadley auctionthey'll start touting it in
november.
Uh, you'll be able to see allthe things that are out there if
you are a golf course operatorand you want to help raise some

(46:05):
money, get in touch with us.
We'll connect you with Mike atBeautiful Golf Courses and the
people at Fort Hadley so you candonate some foursomes.
That's basically what they do.
The golf courses donate afoursome.
Sometimes you've got to have athree ball because you've got to
play with a member.
Then they go out to bid.
Whoever bids the most gets them, and we were sneaky and found a

(46:31):
really great deal.
We're going to be trying to dothe exact same thing this time
somewhere else Look out, look,out, look out.
Look out.
So we're going to find someplace somewhere and take care of
it.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Also, if you're a member at a golf course and you
think your course should be apart of it, you need to hit up
Beautiful Golf Courses in FortHadley and try and get your
course involved with it.
It's what.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I just said that.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Not the same way.
Just get involved with it.
It's a fantastic opportunity.
Just get involved.
Just do's a.
It's a fantastic opportunity.
Just get involved.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Just get involved just do it there's some vegas
courses are on there.
So you know, if you want tomake a vegas trip and you don't
want to pay the crazy money thatvegas is charging for golf
right now, make sure you can.
You know if you can find someon there.
I'm sure there's st georgecourses, all the desert areas
around there.
Um, I'm sure, I'm sure there'sst george courses, all the
desert areas around there um,I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I'm sure you guys get hit up all the time like how
did you play there, what did youdo?
There's opportunities to playthese courses and you just got
to go out there and seek themout and find it.
You know, just like in vegas,snga does the the um, what is it
?
Social series or social outings, yeah, yeah or scrambles, or,

(47:48):
you know, beautiful golf coursesand for hadley that there's
options for you to be able to dothese things.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
So just stay vigilant , stay vigilant, stay vigilant
uh, speaking of beautiful golfcourses, uh, mike will be in
town tomorrow night.
He uh has an early flight andthen he'll be here.
He's got early wake up call, hesaid, and then he'll be here
tomorrow night playing golf withhim.
On Friday, it was supposed tobe us but then.

(48:18):
Joe's got dad duties for his newstudent, Jeremy's got dad
duties for his students, Dan'sgot a real life job duty, so he
couldn't get away.
So you know, I made the call tothe pen and brought in a couple
of relievers.
So Steven Jackson and Trey willbe joining Mike and myself out

(48:40):
there on Friday to make a looparound Cascada Nice.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
I wish I could go.
I really do.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Curious to see what's going on out there.
Same We've heard horror stories.
We've heard not horror stories.
So we'll actually have someboots on the ground Friday and
I'll let everybody know what thehell is going on at Cascada.
And then Saturday he has a spotat Rio, but we're all playing

(49:10):
in the golf tournament, at theVGN tournament.
So he threw a post out theresaying hey, need three for Rio
Seco on Saturday.
Vegas hit me up.
So if you're looking, you knowyou're not in the VGN and you
want to play some golf onSaturday at Rio Seco, hit up
Beautiful Golf Courses and seeif you can get out with Mike
Awesome dude.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Awesome dude, awesome people.
Mike's the man.
Shout out.
Mike Shout out Beautiful GolfCourses.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Make sure you're giving them a follow.
And then Highland Falls,saturday is where we are setting
up shop.
The course in West Summerlin,it's just Summerlin, right, it's
not West.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Summerlin, they're South.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Summerlin now.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
No, it's Summerlin, bro, it's.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Summerlin, in the hills of Summerlin, we'll be up
there.
We've got a 7 am shotgun goingoff.
68 players are playing in thisone.
Finally, the Diamonds Divisiongets a bunch of players.
You guys have 16 in your flight, we got 22, I think.
In the spades 15 and 12, Ithink rounds it out something

(50:23):
like that.
So, yeah, it's going to be agood time.
The weather is going to be nicein the morning but it's going
to get hot in the afternoon andit's going to be windy.
So if you guys want to dig inon some really cool information
on how to play in the wind, theSweet Spot replayed an episode
where they had some guys fromPing that have been doing a

(50:43):
bunch of analyzing with wind andhumidity and temperature.
Amazing, listen if you're agolf nerd.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Nerd.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Where's that?
What's that?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Where did you listen to that?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
The Sweet Spot with John.
Sherman and Adam Young.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
So I mean I was like listening to him, like holy shit
, this is stuff I never eventhought about Nerds, nerds,
nerds.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Nerds, nerds, nerds.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
Alpha.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Didn't go nerd out on the Garson interview, because
that was a really good one too.
I still need to go listen tothat.
How sad is that, my brethren.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
I was out of town.
I was out of town.
We should have listened to itin the talk you sat in your room
on what not?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
for six hours by yourself, you could have no, we
should have listened to it inthe raptor, in Jeremy's raptor.
We should have done that weshould have been like hey guys,
the Garson interview isfantastic.
I didn't want to force it uponyou.
I want you to want to listen toit.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I do want to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I want you to want to .
I support it.
I do want to listen to it.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I want you know I support all.
I support all of us oh yeah oh,do you have any?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
garson grips played highland today.
Greens were a little dried outthere boys.
Yep well, it's freaking hot, soyeah yes, I do.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
I do have some in stock jay.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
So, and uh, a plentiful more are coming
because I want to make sure that, uh, we get you and dan in one,
that you like, dan, talking toyou.
I think I'm, I would, it's likewe'll see we'll say, like I
said I just want you to find onethat you like and try it and

(52:38):
see what happens.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
That's all I love, carson.
Fantastic, fantastic grips.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That is all I mean.
He's got a lot of wins on tour.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
He does.
He don't want to disrupt thatyeah.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Hey I I said to myself you know I have two VGN
wins, both with Carson grips.
You know all my wins, both with.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Carson grips.
All my putts made in the past,what?
Four years?
Probably a Carson Tap-ins 20s,15s, 10s, 8s, all of them, all
Carson.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
All Carson.
Gotta get you a Carson on thatGoodwood.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Yeah, I know, I was rolling that thing really good.
You know what you?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
should have done.
We should have brought that inand had Lamont take a look at it
and fix the waiting for you.
That would have been cool.
Made it fucking perfect.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Yeah, the wait felt.
Good this trip.

Speaker 5 (53:34):
I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Maybe I lost muscle, maybe I gained muscle, I don't
know.
I have no idea, because maybethe alabertos hit me in a
specific spot, in my biceps ortriceps.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
You want to hear something crazy.
I gained seven pounds.
Nice, no, that's not nice.
I think that was that burrito,that was the sugar coffee in the
morning.
Of the burrito, holy Mary.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
That was good food, though.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Dude, that Alberto's was bomb.
That was legit.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I would trade.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Alberto's for my local for sure.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I was impressed .

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Do you think it was better than Roberto's?

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yes, Really oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
That was one of the best combo burritos I've ever
had in my life.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
The ground beef.
Yeah, that carne asada wasfantastic.
Couldn't get to the mute fastenough.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Yeah, so you guys in the phoenix area and they're all
over the small towns in theeastern arizona side, uh show
low holbrook eager well, I wasasking.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
I was asking value of flips if he's got any philip
burdos head covers earlier Iwonder how close the nearest
alaberto's is to uh second swing, right it's probably basin.
It's probably basin becauseroad trip on the cup.
It was all small cities.
Mesa was.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Mesa was the big one, though yeah, I took a picture
of it because eager is where mymom grew up and it's a tiny,
tiny little town and they hadone and she, I sent her the
picture and showed it to her and, uh, she said that, uh, heber
is even smaller than eager.
But yeah, maricopa, mesa, page,prescott, payson, heber, eager,
wagon wheel, lakeside, pine top, cholo, taylor and holbrook,

(55:35):
which are all small towns, andthere's one in Las Lunas, new
Mexico.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
We need a franchise.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Here let's go the Knights.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah, I will, no doubt Las Lunas.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Overall.
I mean if you're looking at thewhole spectrum of restaurants,
like overall, it's difficult tobeat those restaurants, like if
you take into account everythinglike the selections, the food,
the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, it's it's up there, the elk the elk, the
bucket, the pasta next door hey,another thing, joe, don't
forget the fresca in it yeah, ina glass bottle.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah, that's true.
Never seen that before.
That is true.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I don't even I don't think katie's trying to yet oh
man, I was at albertson's daytoo and I forgot to look for
that chasing burritos hell yeah,hey I heard of a spot.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
I heard of a spot today.
I heard of a spot today Mexicanspot downtown.
Chris Torres told me not toblow up the spot, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
I don't do it there.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
I'm not going to, but .
I'm just saying like I need togo as soon as possible because
it looks incredible.
We might have to take a golftrip to Desert Pines to get you
guys off your keto.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
We're going to Desert Pines next week.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
We are.
Yeah, absolutely.
Guap me, guys.
If you guys don't know, guap me, don't follow Troy Magic's back
in town.
What day is that?
I think it's the 16th.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
maybe, right, it's 16th, or 14th I think it's
sunday, sunday it's a sundayyeah, sunday the 14th, I think,
or 17th.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, nine o'clocksunday the 17th yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
A lot of the big brands are not the big brands,
but the smaller brands in golfare going to be here for Project
Magic the Gathering, pluto,sandy Par, golf of Flavor,
number 33, merrill Studentsthose guys we're going to go

(57:59):
play some golf at Desert Pines.
I'm very excited.
I know you guys are not veryexcited to play Desert Pines.
I love Desert Pines.
I know you guys don't.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Probably the last time we ever play it.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
That might be, might be true, because it's getting.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Farewell to the.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
DP Train wreck.
It's going to be just rolledover for section 8 housing.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Another.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
It's going to be just rolled over for section 8,
housing, another one bites thedust, and then Alberto's is
going to come in the house andthey're going to put a fucking
Alberto's on the corner, andthen what's going to be the diet
Alberto's?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
You need to tell Alberto's to open up the
restaurant on the second floorat Wild Horse and just kill it.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
Dude, I would love to franchise a fucking alabertos.
No doubt they're doing it rightover there.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
You can go in and wiki up with the other four
right, yeah, right restaurantsthey have in there.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Yeah, and and the seafood joint yeah oh man, they
should just put a pond out thereat least, like we grow our own
fish or something you know.
Give you some sort of likefulfillment in your decision.
Yeah, some koi tacos yeah, uh.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
So thanks everybody.
Oh, you know, oh, we got thethe playoffs, the pga playoffs.
Uh, playoffs start, uh tomorrow, um, or today.
If you're listening to thistoday, uh, that's gonna be
interesting to see everythingthat happens with that.
This is when you see a lot ofthe fall, new coming releases,

(59:31):
stuff that get to sneak into thebags of some players.
Callaway just released some newwedges, uh, that uh are out.
A lot of players are hypingthat up.
Um, what are the new wedges?
Uh, they're called the spwedges.
I I haven't got any info on.
I gotta talk to site and findout what's going on with them,
but uh, apparently they're alittle little zippier um hey,

(59:57):
you made it gave you all yourshine earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Your ears must have been burning, greenlee.
You still hear her.
You still hear her, greenlee.
Just curious, go ahead.
Continue, I forgot what I wassaying.
You're talking about the SPwedges.
Oh yeah, yeah, the new wedgesfrom Callaway.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Apparently they're a little bit more zippier.
I don't know much else aboutthem, but a bunch away I just.
Apparently they're a little bitmore zippier.
I don't know much else aboutthem, but a bunch of other stuff
going on.
What did he say?
There he is Sketchy.
Msp hotel has me not sleeping.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Greenlee, I need to pick your ear on some protos, if
you will.
So hit me up tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Oh, that's something else that we did while we were
there.
We went and saw, uh doc's beentalking yeah, doc, at uh new
level.
Stopped in the shop there sawthose guys, saw some trues that
new true links shout out truelinks where best shoes in the
game.
I don't know, I got a blisteron my foot that I'm a little
upset about.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
You wore the wrong ones wore the knit fours.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I gotta have spikes now, right now, I need the
spikes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
I need the spikes for that torque.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Matt needs all that torque falling down a hill wing
chat needs all the torque.
I don't need to be.
I don't need to be.
It's Wang chat needs all thetorque.
I don't need to be Wang chat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I don't need to be, it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
So if you all don't know, if you all don't know, my
last name is spelled reallyjacked up and it is really hard
to pronounce properly.
And so it is a treasure when wego somewhere and the booking is
in my name, because it is likewhat, what is going to happen

(01:01:48):
when this person sees this, andmost of the time, most of the
time, it's like oh, looks likethey wrote it down wrong.
It's like no, they wrote itdown Right.
How do you say that?
It's like no, they wrote itdown right.
How do you say that?
It's like go ahead, Hit me withyour best shot, Wing chat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Okay, I'll call you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I'll call you Best shoe in the game.
David Downer, I did get ablister and I talked to the guy
at True and I said I got ablister, so it's the Lux 2.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
He was like don't wear them in the summer.
That's what he said.
He's like don't wear them inthe summer it's a winter shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
It's.
It's not sold as a winter shoe,but uh, it's.
It's not breathable whatsoever.
It's very comfortable, but, ohmy god, it was 111 degrees out
there and my feet felt like theywere on fire they were very hot
so damn hot and the soft feet Iwill say even my lux.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
My lux twos were like hot too, like that was not.
That was not a day to wearsomething thick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
No, you needed to be out there in sandals yeah we
could have played in some zorzyzorzy sandals with this.
Oh man, anyway, I was gonnatake these off.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
If it was, if it wasn't like there was, you know,
cart pass and rocks, I wouldcrazy comfortable shoe.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Love the spikes, love the feel of it.
But I will not wear them untilprobably november, just because,
yeah, man, my little piggy istore up yeah, I need the knit
fours really bad.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
I need those new.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Yeah, I just need them all in all black.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Just give me an all black, all black.
But no, it was super cool.
See, rodent, obviously the doc,uh, stopping at new level, saw
some new things that are on theway, but we cannot talk about
them very cool shit, very coolshit also, dan.
I mean like dude, it's, it's socool just stopping in just

(01:03:50):
seeing people in the golfindustry and like learning
things and like seeing clubs,you know, like we saw like rymo
stamp clubs and weird assputters that tour players are
trying and things like that.
It's just, dan, you can answerthis.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
Mike's asking if any of you guys tried the painter
shoes yeah, well, I tried the uh, the first runs that they uh,
that they had.
I haven't been in them sincegot them about, I don't know
four years ago, but uh they werecomfortable.
They were just a little, alittle bit too narrow for my
feet, but I know now that theyhave made wide versions but they

(01:04:29):
look sick.
I mean, you know, for being alittle narrower they were still
pretty comfortable, but theycame out some crazy looking ones
better uh, jason day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Jason Day was sitting down with the owner showing the
new line coming out.
I mean Dan's how.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I heard about Painter .

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I saw him and then Dan showed up with him one day
and I'm like oh shit, I gotwhite boats and the new ones.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
That's good to know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yeah, that's good to know.
All right, anybody got anythingelse.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Yeah, us Women's Am at Bandon, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I was watching that this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Yep, I was hoping they were going to play another
course, but I think it's just OG.
It's just OG, which is fine.
It's completely fine, but itwas cool to see again.
Still fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
I was watching and one of the announcers was
playing in it.
One of the for the Golf Channel, one of the announcers that she
or I don't know.
They made it seem like she wasannounced because they're like
we don't want you back on cameratomorrow.
We want you to make it through,but she made it through the
round of 32.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
It's so fun.
It's so fun, it's so fun to seethem.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And they hype up Bandon really well, they talk
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Well, I mean as they should.
It's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Yeah, absolutely so.
If you are curious to seeBandon on TV, they show 16 a lot
, so you know, hold them, tears,hold them tears.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
They show 16 a lot, so hold them tears, hold them
tears.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Did.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
I miss anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Does anybody want to know what we shot?
I got all the scores.
Anyone want to guess?

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
We don't have a lot of people watching right now.
I think the last round was mybest round.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I do know that I think yes, that was your best
round.
You are correct, jeremy, youneeded.
I know I fell apart on oneround, I do know that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Yes, that was your best round.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
You are correct, I know I fell apart on one round I
did not play.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Well, dan, let's see.
Your bad round was at the backat.
No, you didn't play that, youshot a 71.
Oh, 78.
That's what it was, the back atChaparral.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
People are going to be in the chat like bad round 78
.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
Yeah, it was bad.
Fuck you, Dan yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
So the total par, because one was 71, 72, and 72,
so it was 215.
Dan was 5 over over, jeremy was10 over, I was 22 over and Joe
was 33 over for the three rounds.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Larry Bird, let's go what was my three rounds?
I honestly don't even know yourfirst in the rim club you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Yeah was your worst round.
You shot an Shelf lines in therim club.
Oh yeah, Wekapaw was your worstround.
You shot an 80, and that'sbecause you shot a 41 on the
back.
Well, you shot 39-41.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
You didn't play great that day.
I didn't make a single putt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, but then you shot 74-71.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Okay, that first round was an anomaly.
Look at what Mike said.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
You guys like Chow, he missed the beginning of the
show.
Oh yes, mike, yes, Chow isgreat.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Yeah, it was fantastic it was absolutely
fantastic.
Yes, we will be back.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
It was absolutely fantastic,yes we will be back.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Shout out Todd outside services.
Todd legend have had 236 wholedays, so 72 holes total every
year we have 236 whole days atweek of off for a foursome in
the auction.
Last year went from 1K.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Wow that's 250 a person For 72 holes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Don't go in August.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
August would be tough .

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
That would be in October.
It was hot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
They get.
The outside service guy giftedus these.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
He was legend.
Todd is legend.
Yeah, joe was a legend, todd isa legend.
Yeah, he knows, Gary Goat.
I did tip him At the beginning.
I said he was taking such goodcare of us.
I was like fuck, I got to getmoney.
I got to tip him at the endBecause he was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
He was so good, he was great.
He was so good, he was so greatyeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
There are two separate 36 whole days for a
foursome, only on Chola Dude,chola's sick dude, chola Choya.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I wore off on him.
Chola my whiteness just woreoff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Are you talking about cholos Cholos wey?

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
What time is our tea time on the chola Corey.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Wey, wey, wey, Let me get a fucking chilaquiles
burrito.
Wey.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Anything else.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Oh saguaro and chola Chola Choya yes.
I got him got saguaro andcholla.
Yes, totally fucking worth it,dude, I have not played saguaro,
but I would do 36 in a day atcholla, all day careful, dan.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
you ride 36 with me and one day you start losing
that Hispanic in you.
You'll be white, just like meTotally, mike.

Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
and also there's I'll be there to correct you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
There's a casino right there, bro, like it's
right fucking there.
Yeah, yeah, it's totally worthit, mike.
Totally worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, basically he says you win the auction and
your foursome gets to play bothcourses.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Mike, you're going to have to go back and listen to
this episode at the beginning,bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Oh, yeah, joe.
Yeah, you got to go back andlisten.
At the beginning you got to goback and listen.
Yeah, joe was upset.
We didn't get to play the CourtCrenshaw, but then he was okay
now Just go listen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
No, why are you giving him all the hint?
Giving them all a hint?
Just go back and listen, mike.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I was upset, yes, but go back and listen at the
beginning.
Ah, all right, we got anythingelse.
Did I miss anything else?
We good.
I think so, thanks everybodyfor, uh, that tuned in on a
wednesday we probably won't dothis again.
Everybody was like where thehell?
Where the hell were you guyslast night?
Rob's like I'm stuck in theairport.
I got nothing to do.
Why aren't you guys on?

(01:11:03):
So thanks everybody for that.
We really appreciate it.
We'll be back next week withmore stuff.
Let me see if this Go ahead.
Joe, keep talking.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Hey guys, episode 339 .
How insane is that shit?
Okay, how insane is that?
Shut up beautiful golf courses,shut up for hadley, for the
opportunity to play courses weprobably wouldn't have never
found or played in our life.
And we got to experience thatbecause the bgc and Four Hadley

(01:11:39):
Incredible experiences Foundburritos, combo burritos.
You don't see those very often.
We found those because of BGCand Four Hadley with beans and
cheese and ground beef, and theywere fantastic.
Are you ready?
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I'll figure out how to do the random draw.
Right now, our top fan, uh, forthis is, uh, greenlee.
Thank you, greenlee, for beingthere.
We, we love it.
Uh, there's only six of you inthe chat tonight, but I get it,
it's.
It's a different night yeah,it's different night schools,
school's coming, everybody'sgetting their kiddos ready and
uh, yeah, dropping a bomb on youthough, hey, I'm not gonna be

(01:12:21):
there.
But next week back to ourregularly scheduled program.
We'll be talking about the vgn,cascada, and uh who knows,
scotty winning another playoffprobably.
Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
So all right, joe, wrap it up, let's get out here
hey y'all, thank you for tuningin to this week's episode of the
chasing day that podcast.
If you weren't in the chat,come back next week for the show
, get in the chat, we'll answeryour questions, we'll
communicate with you and, uh, dosay hello while you're there.
But if you're listening on yourroad trip, while you're driving

(01:12:55):
to work or whatever it is, westill appreciate you.
It's chasing daylight podcast.
We're coming up on next weekepisode 340.
It's me joe, that's matt,that's dan, that's jeremy.
We're here every single weekfor you.
We love golf.
Make sure you get out there andhit those greens and, most
importantly, get out there andchase those that daylight.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
All right, until next week.
You got to do that again.
You fucked up man first, manfirst.
You fuck up Hedger Hacks videoDamn it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Nerd.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
I was so close.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
You were so close, alpha, I was so close Go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Episode 340 is next week.
Make sure you get out there andhit those greens and, most
importantly, make sure you goout there, play some golf and
chase that daylight Until nextweek.
We'll see you then Later.
Thank you.