March 29, 2022 • 53 mins
The CHAUNCEY Show-Meet Gregg Mele for US Congress NJ 6th District with patriot host Chauncey I. Brown III. New Jersey is the epicenter of corrupt politicians, tax and spend policies, and tyrannical control of everyday people's lives that has permeated much of the country. The COVID-19 pandemic simply exacerbated all these behaviors with a President and Governor that ran wild with arbitrary executive orders, and legislative bodies that failed to keep them in check, but, there is a person willing to challenge the new normal that is driving America and the Garden State down a dangerous path. Congressional candidate Gregg Mele is a life-long resident of New Jersey who is passionate about restoring liberty and freedom to the state. From the pinelands to the NYC border, from High Point down the length of the Jersey shore, he has the pulse of New Jersey running through his veins. He comes from humble beginnings - the child of blue-collar parents whose father worked long hours in a bookbinding factory so his family might have a better life. A Montclair State cum laude graduate, Gregg continued his education and eventually graduated cum laude from New York University School Law School with his LL.M. In between he earned his MS from Stevens Institute of Technology, his MBA from Baruch College of the City University of New York and his JD from New York Law School. It is safe to say that, nationwide, Gregg may well be the most educated person running for Congress this year. Join national political commmentator patriot host Chauncey I. Brown III and Gregg Mele as we discuss the challenges in New Jersey as well in our nation. *Visit us on LinkTree to follow us on all social media platforms.
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A lot holt radia. This isthe Chauncy Show where we're always right and
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never left. We put God firstin politics second. Welcome to the show.
I'm your host, Chauncy Brown.We have an exciting show lined up
for you today. We have agentleman that has been fighting on the front
line against mass mandates and arbitrary executiveorders in New Jersey from day one since
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the pandemic in Murphy has tried toimpose his will upon the people of New
Jersey. Greg Neil is probably oneof the most educated individuals that I will
be interviewing and I have interviewed sinceI've been interviewing candidates to growth the country.
He has an extensive background and Iwill let him explain. He is
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probably one of the most qualified individualsrunning for Congress in the country today,
and I am proud to have GregNeil on my show. Is running for
US Congress in New Jersey Sister District. Welcome to the show. Greg,
How are you. I'm doing great, Jaunson, Thanks so much for having
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me. Greg. Like I saidearlier, You're welcome. You know you
have an extensive educational background. I'lllet you share with the listeners. I'll
let you unpack who you are,your educational background, and how we got
to where we are today. Thatyou're a candidate in New Jersey sister district
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for Congress. Sure, I meangrowing up we were not well off at
all, and my father was bluecollar, sometimes two full time jobs,
especially during carter years, working ina warehouse. He was the guy in
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a bookbinding shop that would cut thebig paper on the big saw one or
the blade. One of the fewthat never lost a finger his entire career,
but he struggled to make ends meet. My mother took care of us
at home. I grew up inBergen County, up in Rochelle Park,
next to Paramis. I went tohigh school actually in Paramus, and so
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growing up like that, one thingI want to do was certainly try to
do better for the next generation andalso try to develop some skills to help
people. So one thing I hadgone for me was that I happened to
do well in school, and Ithought I should play to my strengths.
So I pushed out about as faras I could take it. Man,
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So after getting an understatement, bythe way, yeah you have once,
Greg tells you the multiple degrees hehas. Uh, then I'll tell you
that it's an understatement. I didn'tmean to cutch the wolf, but you
know, not at all now.I mean, once, one thing folks
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have to remember my my day jobcurrently is as an attorney, so understating
is the watchword of the business.But yeah, I mean I I was
getting to the end of high schooland uh, my counselors were like,
you're going to college, right becauseI did well. And meanwhile at home,
the family was talking about how canwe afford this? Because, uh,
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well, from example, my parents, they had to drop out of
high school to start working and help, you know, contribute to the family
that they were growing up in.And the question was whether I would have
to start doing that right away.But fortunately, because of my academics,
I had about a year's worth ofcollege credit before I finished high school.
So restraining it, I would sayto you, look at local state school,
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cheap tuition. You know, loans, you know, specially student loans
was a dirty word back then forfolks without the Internet and without much means,
you know, any kind of loanwas terrifying. So I went local
to Montclair State and I was ableto finish in three years because of that
year worth of credit, but alsoI accelerated some there and I had a
very light last semester with a doublemajor math and computer science. I was
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very much a numbers guy and scienceguy. And so actually after I finished
that program in May that year,which was, I hate to say,
but was eighty six, I startedworking in the summer and by September I
was back in school doing a computerMasters. Main thing was trying to develop
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a high level of skills as muchas possible so that I could be of
help to people, and that's thetheme throughout my educational background. So in
fact, I was the only onethat went back out of the people who
joined the job in that summer togo to school right away again. But
I felt I needed to do it, so I spent a couple of years
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that was at Stevens Institute and sofinished that time. And initially I was
with AT and T, but Imoved into Wall Street firms after that job
and pretty much fell in love withthe industry. I started in nineteen ninety
in that business, and in themid nineties I was thinking, Okay,
you know, the technology is greatand all, but I fell in love
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with the business, and I wantedto learn more. So by ninety two.
There was a slight downturn before thatin the economy, and I thought
I should have some more skills andwhat have you, and I could keep
doing what I do and helping others. So I was looking at a finance
and economics MBA. Coincidentally, atthe time, a few folks that I
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knew, either work or friends orwhatever, suggest that I should look also
at possibly a law degree because there'sa lot of regulation in finance. So
instead of being one to choose oneor the other, and it's the trouble
with me is you know you'd giveme a couple of ideas, I'll take
them both. So I did thedual degree, actually the NBA and the
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JD. So that was five years, four nights a week, and that
was a grind, but I stayedmotivated by what I would have at the
end, which again I was tryingto equit myself. So I really had
the skills and capacity, hopefully tohelp as many people as possible. So
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I finished that. Finally I tookthe bar that was in the summer of
ninety eight, and was still fascinatedby the law. By that point,
so I went back for an LMLaw Masters the fall of ninety eight right
after the exam, so another twoand a half years, but it was
only two nights a week, sothat I was practically a vacation. So
I finished up right around the beginningof two thousand and one with school,
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and interestingly enough, by two thousandand three I had been approached by Stevens,
one of my old alma maters,to do development of courses and then
teach them, so I actually didthat from three to twelve with them,
and a few years in between therealso with Fairley Dickinson. By the way,
the dual degree was brew College andNew York Law School, and then
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NYU Law for the Masters. ButI spent a lot of days going to
work in the city. I wouldget up five o'clock, leave by six
thirty to get to the early morningmeetings, finished my work day six o'clock,
go to class still in the cityusually till out nine thirty, give
or take, and then take thetrain home get home around eleven. At
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the time, my daughters were verysmall, so I would spend time with
them, so I didn't miss anythingtill about two in the morning. Before
they went just started going to schooland then during the week just to get
the three hours sleep in there andturn right around and do it again.
And because I didn't want to missout on anything, I really I pushed
myself very hard to get through allof that, and so I feel very
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happy that I didn't waste that opportunityand that I did keep up with it.
Godless you, especially to maintain afamily while still thinking about serving people
and getting all that education is awesome. Greg. My head is off to
you, and you know, thankyou so much for what you the effort
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that you put in, because nowyou've made yourself to quip to be you
know, candidate Congress. Um.What made you decide to get involved in
politics? I know, briefly,you know, I spoke in the introduction
about your activism pushing back against Aubertorymandates of the governor and pushing back against
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mask mandates. Um. Where didyour political interests begin? Um? And
then how did we get to thispoint as the running That's a that's a
fun question for me. I alwayslove answering this, so uh my first
interesting Sorry, I'm glad. Ohyeah, now this this is a softball
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for me. So I appreciate that. Um yeah, yeah, first had
exposure to politics. Actually I justmissed being aware of it, to see
water date happen and all of thatstuff. The first thing was actually the
Ford Carter election time. I wasin this uh you know, they call
it Gifted and Talented program in elementaryschool, and our project that year for
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seventy six was to do a mockelection with the student body in our school,
and it was fascinating to me tosee the process, you know,
not having ever of course, Iwas too young to vote yet, so
I'd never went to the polling placeand went in the booth and all this
stuff. So it was a realearly exposure for me to be able to
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see that, and I just enjoyedit so much, and it caused me
to find a book I was ableto locate at the time that had the
the colored maps of all the electionresults from the past since the beginning of
the country. So I studied.I studied all those elections prior to that,
right up to seventy two was theprevious one, and so I became
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fascinated with the idea of how theelectoral college works, why it's there,
you know, the purpose that itserves, which I mean, it's it's
sad when people talk about the overallsort of um, you know, just
through the popular vote thing for thepresidency, it really wouldn't work well at
all. So um And plus weonly have a United States because of states
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that were still given some amount ofleverage droll College. So for me,
it was the beginning and h andI grew up in a Republican home,
and I was a Republican you know, all my life. The biggest thing
that I cared about was always theidea of small government, which of course
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was has always been part of theRepublican mantra. So what what turned my
direction a little bit was that,first of all, I guess, with
Bush Junior kind of getting on aspending craze himself much like the Democrats or
much more like that, it didn'tfeel right to me. And with Obama
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that exploded. Plus um, Ialways felt that he, uh, he
was more divisive by promoting some ofthese police shooting videos only the snippet at
the end and not explaining why thingshappened the way they did all the time.
And it was just the further divisionthat, you know, I started
to see the country, you know, more divided than I had ever lived
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through. I mean, I wasborn right around the Civil Rights Act time,
and so growing up, I mean, it was affirmative action that I
dealt with, and for otherwise itwas a lot of a lot more harmony,
and certainly I didn't see any sortsof like career impediments things like that.
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That was the basis for the CivilRights Act, I mean, and
affirmative action. I felt like itreally fixed a lot of things. But
the problem, of course for politiciansin general is if the public is in
harmony and they have to actually comeup with ideas to promote as far as
why they should be elected. Sopoliticians in the last twelve years have really
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pushed hard to create divisions so thatpeople will focus on that and be distracted
away from the ideas or the lackof them. But the fact of getting
away from the small government all aroundwas what kind of drove me away from
politics. I became very disinterested anddisappointed, and that was probably about ten
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years ago, and I spent afew years not paying attention to what was
going on really, and I didget very interested when Trump was running because
he had a whole different approach,and I thought to myself, you know
what, this guy might be independentenough that he won't blow whichever way the
wind blows as far as his decisionsand his policies. And I think we
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did see that, and that's whywe had a lot more policy success,
and certainly a lot more than we'rehaving now where seemed to be going in
reverse. So yeah, I gotme interested again. The other thing that
happened along the way was I gotintroduced to some libertarian folks here in New
Jersey, and to the extent ofthe small government thing, I mean,
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that is a true libertarian trait,and so I was interested in talking to
those folks too, and so Ibecame involved with them for a while,
and you know, they they wereinterested in ideas, and so I was
pretty active for three three and ahalf years, and I did a couple
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of smaller runs, I would sayfor office, and then last year I
was nominated by them to be theirgubernatorial candidate here in New Jersey. So
I was on the ballot alongside Murphyand Chiodarelli. And interestingly, because Tidarelli
is really, I mean, whateverybody refers to as rhino, you know
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he was left leaning because of thisthis strategy that the party seems to have
of trying to put up candidates thatlook more liberal to try to steal liberal
votes. But and so, actuallyI was much more conservative than Jack.
And the thing I heard from allthe people last year when I went to
all these protests for them, youknow, against the mandates, and met
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a lot of Republicans there, Imean, they were all disappointed and not
planning to vote. You know,it's just planning to stay home. Because
for every liberal vote you're going toconvert, you lose ten of your base
by making them feel abandoned like that, the people were just feeling unrepresented.
Because if you have a guy,first of all, if he's if he's
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just trying to be okay, youknow, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
what I really think, and that'sconservative, but I'm going to tell these
other folks in this other audience adifferent story. Well, first of all,
how do you know which one ishow he really feels? Secondly,
is that the kind of leader youwant that just says what everybody wants to
hear every time? And I meanhe can't possibly do mutually exclusive things so
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it was tough to see that,and I understood the frustrations, and that's
why I felt like, you know, I was in a good position to
understand what the Republican voters were lookingfor here. I mean, the last
four statewide races, the Republicans havehad rhino candidates, one of them now
actually trying to pretend to be AmericaFirst. But what has the history out
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there that everybody knows, so thestrategy just doesn't work. The last one
who won here and I mean I'mnot a fan of his for how things
wound up towards the end of histime in office, but Christy was the
last one ran truly conservative campaigns andhe won two times. So I felt
that, you know, that wasa gap. The party was struggling still,
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the Republicans, but having met thoseparent groups primarily in the beginning,
although certainly a lot more people alongthe way last year. Within a week,
I was getting calls to come backto the party. Joined, you
know, rejoined the party run foroffice under the Republican banner, and I
said, well, my fans ismy stance, my platform is my platform,
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which I mean I wouldn't say I'mone hundred percent in lined with any
party's sort of official platform. ButI'm probably about ninety percent on the Libertarian
and ninety percent also on the Republican. It's just there's a little bit of
difference out of which issues are theother ten. But you know, these
folks were asking me to do this. I mean I had just as comparative
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you know, usual statewide libertarian candidates. I mean they might be invited to
or go to, let's say,between six and twelve events in a year
in a campaign the year, andI went to over hundred things last year.
I was all over the state,up and down, every different kind
of event. And that's what alsocaught the attention of the Republican folks who
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asked me to join them. Thenafter that, and I have the luxury
of a job where I can sinceI have my own practice, I can
basically arrange my schedule so that Ican cover a lot of things outside of
work. And so yeah, Iwas convinced to run in the sixth district.
I mean basically where we have beenliving in. What are my wife
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and I. We have a secondmarriages for each of us, and so
we have almost the reverse Brady Bunch. I have two girls and she has
three boys yea, and we hadjust just a one boy left at home
that that went to college last summer. And so early last year we were
saying, okay, after the electionand could move closer to my work which
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is in Clark. So we're lookingat getting over to with the colonial is
Lanai and maybe a touching somewhere likethat. And so the sixth district looked
like a good fit, so uAnd actually when I filed the papers,
it was early December and there wasnobody else in the race yet in that
side for that district, on theRepublican side. So um, you know,
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eventually we got a couple of otherfolks join the race, and but
you know, we're we're doing reallywell. I think, you know,
a lot of folks are getting themessage from us. They're hearing it,
and it aligns with what a lotof people are missing about what was better
times. And I think that peoplecan also tell generally that, I mean,
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my whole thing is to be therefor other people. This is not
like me looking for a title oran ego trip or anything like that.
I mean, people who know meknow that that's really not me. So
now I'm I'm enjoying the experience theride. My wife and I actually go
out a lot for the petitions we'redoing that. Sometimes I go myself,
but every so often she joins me, and we're both just fascinated about hearing
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what people are concerned about and allthat stuff. So it's been a real
great experience all around. That isan awesome, awesome story for those that
are tuning in listening to the JauncyShow. We're always right and never left.
We put God first, in politicssecond, and we're honored and proud
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to have in the studio today.Greg Neil, who is running for Congress
in New Jersey's district, I wantto talk about some of the issues I
know that you have pushed back againstmass mandates. Are you a constitutionalist and
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I don't know you know a UnitedStates constitutionalists or New Jersey constitutionalists. I'm
sure that you are familiar with bothbecause of your educational background. Where does
that fit in the narrative of yourpositions of liberty freedom? I'm not sure
we're libertarians fall into I know,limited government, but what say you?
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Yeah? I mean, well,yeah, the libertarian stance is what the
advertised at least republican stance has been, which is for liberty and freedom,
minimal government intervention a lot in people'slives. Basically, I mean, if
if somebody is doing something in theprivacy of their own home and whoever they
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are is consenting to it, Imean we talk about adults, of course,
then I mean, whatever it is, they should be pretty much left
alone. There's a lot better waysto utilize resources on more serious issues of
where people are actually hurting other peoplein some way, whether it's physical or
financial or whatever else. So,um, yeah, constitutionalist is what I've
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been called many times, because yeah, I hold very closely to those principles,
and especially you know tenth Amendment,the rights of the States, and
as to the federal being something thatshould be much more restricted. Of course,
there's been encroachment almost since the beginningof federal authority onto what should be
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more under state purview, war oreven not any of the government's business.
And I think that's one place whereit has hurt this country over time,
that there's really no need to dosome of the things that the government does
just to have the power to doit, or the authority, or to
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raise more money for fines or whateverelse that they manufacture. I think we
print enough money so you shouldn't needto collect anymore from the public. And
also although we'll still be restricted yea. Also Greg to add to just the
footnote, it the political patrons,jobs, the like you said, the
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overlapping of services. We don't needa United States Department of Education, you
know, like you said, Iif an falls under states, you know,
the overreach of government, the outof control spending U the broader broader
of regulations, h increasing services thatare duplication that are not needed to give
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jobs or to give contracts. Iknow, I've read some of the stuff
on your website that you're a bigproponent against corruption, you know, um
and there, and as we know, New Jersey is probably one of the
most corrupt states in the Union.It's unfortunate that, Yeah, there is
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so much of that built into thestructure these days, and it really is
a drag on economic performance and allthese other things that we really need to
excel in this state. I mean, now, it's always been a great
place. It's always been a placewhere a lot of people can accomplish a
lot of things. But we're notachieving our potential with the way things are
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now, and yeah, I mean, especially with the board of it.
It's interesting that you mentioned. Imean, I've been a proponent of getting
rid of the federal and the stateboard of it and even just having like
one one superintendent per county and basicallypush down the teaching methods and responsibilities to
the classroom where every I mean whenwe were growing up, every year we
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had a school budget vote on theballot and it was a sacred cow.
Everybody's like, it's our kids.We cannot say no, we have to
give them whatever money they need.But the money never made it to the
classroom. And that's why internationally,I mean people talk about, you know,
New Jersey schools are always among thetop of the country. It's yeah,
always in top few ranking, right, But when you look internationally,
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we've gone from one to twenty sixin all the subjects and that's since the
creation of the department event, Sothere's something wrong with that formula. Other
countries are beating us badly in education, and so we have really not as
prepared a workforce coming out. AndI mean, you know, we have
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some things that are in bread andour character basically as Americans that help us
to overcome some of that. Butwe could just be doing so much better
if we really tightened up the shiphere and really looked at where at the
biggest bank for the buck, wewouldn't need to spend nearly as much on
education and we could get a betterresult. So we could reduce the taxes,
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keep it affordable here, plus havea well trained and excellent workforce to
make things even better going forward.I could not agree more. I had
the opportunity to serve excuse me,in New Jersey two terms on the school
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boards and Patterson and the third largestcity in the state of New Jersey.
And it's sad the amount of topheavy it's administrative salaries and then the unions
and the tender and all other stuff, the tenure. It's it's sad because
even like a town like Patterson,even back then, I don't know,
it's probably up to twenty thousand nowperse per student, and teachers are still
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buying supplies. I mean, it'sit's it's really beyond the pale, uh
that you know, the money thatwe waste and spend. And it's sad
because the taxpayers, you know,end up putting the bill, and then
we're not getting the return. Andeven to talk about um you know,
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students, well, New Jersey isprobably one of the most multicultural states in
the country, and a lot ofthese districts where some of these students excel
are from outside the country. Youknow that, you know, you know,
whether it's India, whether it's China, whether it's Korea, no matter
where it is. You know,children that come here from other countries excel.
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Our academics are not challenging enough toprepare our children forget about the United
States, but a global market.You know, we are so i prepared.
They want to spend time teaching nonsensethat one race is the oppressor,
the under races, the victim,with critical race here and all these nonsensical
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things. It's sad that our moraleis so corrupt at this day and age.
You know, yeah, I meanfor the for the education programs like
that. I mean, it's onething to teach the history. But you
know, first of all, justabout every group has oppressed at one point,
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every other group or thereabouts. Butthank you, but they know that
that's that's one thing that's not taughtaccurately. Actually, But but even beyond
that. I mean, I don'thave an issue so much with the idea
of, yeah, let's get thetrue historical picture here, but to say
that that propagates to now you know, one group is evil and the other
side is on the side of theangels or something like that, I mean
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that that's just some nonsense. It'sreally, you know, amazing where they
think it's okay to make especially ourlittle kid feel so guilty about something that
has absolutely nothing to do with them, absolutely nothing. And I know that
that's one thing that really makes mecrazy, is uh, you know,
it has to be an even handed, analytical look at the facts and then
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allowing the students, as part ofwhat at least used to be the normal
learning process, to make up theirown minds about what they think about all
that. Nowadays it's you know,for besides, okay, you know this
is the side of good and theside of evil kind of thing I was
just talking about, but also like, oh, the government is always watching
out for you, and we shouldalways in trust everything with the government.
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I had a guide last year.He was I was doing a speaking event
at Rutgers, and one of thestudents came up to me after and he's
nineteen ish or something like that,and he said about the you know,
the mandates and the quarantining and allthis stuff. He said, isn't it
the government's job to protect me fromexternalities? And I was like, that's
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not a you know, that doesn'tmean a virus. That means like in
foreign invasion. I mean it's like, yeah, I felt like this.
This kid probably you know, grewup his parents probably told him everything he
ever did was wonderful, and stillprobably had the kindergarten crayon pictures on the
refrigerator. But where he was,he was perfect, he could do no
wrong, and therefore they probably shelteredhim and did everything for him and protected
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him from the real world. Andnow that he's too old to still go
back to mommy and daddy and havethem protect him, now he wants the
government to take over that job forthe rest of his life. And it's
like, now, that's not howgovernment works. I mean, you need
to be personally responsible as an adultfor your own life and the life of
your family. As far as allthese decisions, for example, the medical
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decisions and all that kind of stuff, it's really weakened the character of the
younger generations just a good degree tomake them be so dependent. And I
mean when I had my girls whenthey were small, growing up and then
that kind of thing. I mean, the first priority was make sure they
grow up independent and able to standon their own two feet and take care
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of themselves and watch out for thereal world and be prepared for it.
And now everybody's afraid to be evenpushing a little or being a little tough
on the kids to grow up andmature and be ready to handle things on
their own. Everybody's so afraid thatthey just coddle the kids way past any
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reasonable time. So it's hurt us. And we have to get back to
the idea of this personal responsibility betweenthe kids that are getting older finally and
becoming adults, as well as theparents themselves. They have to be tougher
and not get upset when the kidcries the first time they're told no.
They have to get used to beingtold no, because there are rules on
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everyone on how we act in asociety, even when you're older. This
is so true. You know thatfalls into lack of discipline. You know,
in our educational system, our children. It's just really sad you know,
even when we look at people likeCongressman Aoc that public education is producing
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unfortunately, And I can't believe thatshe owls the economic and finance degree just
beyond the pale. Uh, youknow, the thought process being taught or
learned in the system that is becomingneutral, it's becoming more liberal, and
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it's hurting our society. It's hurtlike you said, it's hurting the growth
of our society. Yeah. Yeah, you look at you look at somebody
like Aoc. I mean she grewup privileged, she had a dad that
was an architect, I understand.And I mean she she went to one
of the most expensive colleges in thecountry. And I mean, yeah,
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you talked about finding economics background orwhatever, but yeah, she doesn't display
any knowledge of that. I don'tunderstand it she. I mean myself and
others that I've worked with in theeconomics field, and we all look at
anything she says and it's like,this is like against economics one on one.
All her presumptions, all her statementsabout how things work economically are totally
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wrong. And yet that was herfield of study at the sixpensive school that
she had the privilege of going toit. Just it blows my mind,
how really, you know, convincingto a lot of the younger folks,
someone like that is being able tostare them in the face and tell them
outright lies without flinching or or youknow, or blinking, and to the
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point that her, her her act, you know, is convincing a lot
of people of things that are justtotally wrong and leading us in the wrong
direction. You know, it's interestingas I'm listening to you, I don't
know if she's twenty nine or thirty. My son now is twenty nine.
He holds two degrees and heels threedegrees, but heals two from Rucker's business,
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one economics and one of his finance. And I would never ever hear
my son talk like that ever.Uh. You know, he uh,
you know, he doesn't have aparticular well, he doesn't like politics,
but you know, uh, he'sa capitalist leaning towards conservatives. And if
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I had to put a label onhim based on his education and based on
how he talks, he's already createdhis own business, you know, just
how he operates. Like you said, you know, your education normally dictates
how you operate, and with her, it doesn't even equate, it doesn't
even mix match. And I don'teven know how people buy into it,
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I mean any kind of like that. And I'm not trying to put down
any anyone's intelligence, but I justdon't get it. You know. The
problem, the problem in her constituencyis that they want I mean, they're
angry because they think that other peoplejust get success handed to them. And
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I mean, nothing could be fartherfrom the truth. You know, my
case is a perfect example, rightwith the education what I had to go
through. And g though, ismore interested in standing the flames of that
anger of her constituency who don't realizethat there's a difference in effort that led
to that difference and result, andso she plays to that rather than for
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example, getting Amazon to stay inher district there so that they could have
jobs. Um, I mean thatwas like, I mean, I couldn't
believe once once she totally blew thatopportunity. I couldn't believe she got reelected
after that because it was just likethe worst thing she could do to destroy
her consistituents. And they say,don't seem to realize because she just gets
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them angry with her, with her, you know usual, uh yeah,
the rhetoric exactly that you know,she gets them to forget about what's going
on. Yeah, you know,it's ironic that she mentioned Amazon because anyone
who would have degrees in economic orfinance would drool at the fact that they
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have the opportunity to bring that typeof corporation into their district. That's like
common sense, you know, oneon one economics, one on one.
You know. Yes, from mylisteners tuning in today, Greg is going
to be Some of my listeners alreadyknow that we created a new podcast called
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American First Patriot Podcast that aired onMondays and Wednesdays that I'm hosting from seven
to eight. Greg will be onthat show as well tomorrow, and for
those that are listening today, wewill be broadening our conversation to a lot
more American First, a lot morenational issues because you know, as we
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know today, Greg is well versedlaw, policy, and educational backgrounds.
Though he'll be able to lend alot of that knowledge to the conversation tomorrow
when we talk about policy and whenwe talk about what is going on in
Congress, and that's going to bevery informative, an educational insight and conversation
there. Greg and I are goingto have tomorrow and I'm I'm looking forward
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to it. Greg, we haveabout fifteen minutes left. I'd like you
to talk about the issues that areyour five point plan three point plan if
you have one, per se asit relates to your district and the constituents,
if you want to take that tenminutes to talk about some of the
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challenges you've identified within your district thatyou'd like to address for people that might
be listening or listening in the futurefrom the Jerseys to district. Sure,
so, um, yeah, andthen you know, if I can do
the plug of the website probably nowas good absolutely for people to check out
more more information. But that iswww merely it's M E. L.
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And then the number four Congress dotcom I have my I mean, it's
an eight point plan in terms ofthe different areas on the website, but
the first one being the personal andmedical freedom, no mandates, no quarantines.
Thing is we never quarantine the healthybefore until the last couple of years,
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and that's because it doesn't work,and it was clear that it didn't
work. The data all shows thatbasically there's uh you know, just as
much success in areas where they didnot quarantine then where they did and where
they had them. The MASK mandates, the VACS mandates. The thing is,
you know, when I talk aboutthings like that and look at the
data, people think I'm anti vax, anti mask all this kind of stuff.
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Not even a little. It's reallyanti mandate choice of every different person
to figure out what works for themmedically and also for their children if they
have a family. So that's that'sa big thing. That It's one thing
that now some of the emergency stuffhas ended, but it can still come
back. And I'm sure it willcome back if the Democrats survive enough in
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November, it'll probably be a weekwithin a week after the election. But
otherwise the small business, you know, being more efficient with taxes. I
mean one thing that I want tomention. I mean, you know,
there's cut the spending has been mytheme for a lot of things. A
lot of people talk about slowing therate of growth of spending. That's not
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acceptable. It should be in reverse. And when we touched a pound.
The school system is one thing.There's a couple of different areas, pension
system and medicaid all this kind ofstuff that's also got a lot of waste.
But the main thing is to lookat also who's getting hit with the
taxes. And also of course theinflation is a regressive tax essentially, you
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know it's hitting the poor or theworst. But also for example, we
had a New Jersey, we hadthe estate tax before it was replaced by
the gas tax. And while Iprefer not to have any tax, at
least the estate tax was hitting thewealthier people. The threshold was just kept
too low, so it was hittingtoo many people getting further down in the
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economic scale and the income scale.But now the gas tax disproportionately hurts the
poor and those who need to getto work in order to survive. So
and the tolls also on the roadwayshere, they're they're all terrible sou and
also the condition of the roads.That's another one of my points on the
site is the cost for the infrastructure. The roadwork per mile costs way more
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than any other state in New Jersey, and that's because we have these prevailing
wage laws, which is a variantof the minimum wage law. Again,
economics one on one, how howdo you think you can move one measure
in isolation to the rest of themarket. The freehand of the market will
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adjust for that and correct for that. And now, yeah, a lot
of people for the minimum wage,a lot of people that now got up
to fifteen dollars or are approaching thereon a scale process here in New Jersey,
they're doing worse than they did beforebecause the inflation has outpaced everything.
And it's kind of silly to say, Okay, we're going to pay these
people, you know, a fewdollars more an hour, but we're going
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to hold prices the same. Imean, everybody thinks like there's there's just
like you know, real uh,you know, greed and wealth going on
for the people who own those smallbusinesses especially, and it's like, no,
they are having to be very competitivebecause there are a lot of them,
so they can't afford to have abig profit margin on what they're doing.
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So when those costs of operating andpaying salaries goes up, they have
to increase their prices. And guesswhat, that's what we're seeing now,
and that's why everything is in amess economically. School choice as another thing
as far as basically where we wantit to be, where the funding follows
the student, whatever school situation theypursue, whether it's the public school system
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or somewhere else. I think competitionis inherently necessary for any endeavor, that
any human endeavor that involves trying toproduce a quality either product or or service
or what have you. It's thesame thing with schools. The problem with
schools kind of stagnating or going youknow, kind of in reverse a little
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bit lately is because we have nocompetition for them as far as the tax
bills that people pay to support theschool system. So if they're getting their
money, whether they do a goodjob or not, who's going to really
worry about it? I mean veryfew people will actually still care enough.
I mean, there are wonderful teachers, and that's the thing. That's the
people who should be getting whatever fundingthere is. It's the administrative side that
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I've been attack for over a yearand a half now that it's overbloated.
Like I said before, one superintendentper county should be plenty streamlined that side
to minimize it and will be okay. Also, second Amendment I am for
concealed carry and reciprocity, which willbasically circumvent the laws that governor Murphy has
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put in place which really are infringements. I think that the right to protect
your family is sacrosanct, and it'sjust appalling to see where they want to
restrict the lawful gun owners who arefine with doing whatever process there is and
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getting the license and all that kindof stuff. And the people like Governor
Murphy who are doing, you know, all these types of restricches, they're
not even capable of thinking about thefact that the criminals are still going to
get the guns because they don't followthe laws. And now you're just going
to leave a bunch of sitting ducksin their homes. As far as the
public, the law abiding public notable to defend themselves. If a criminal
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knows that there's a chance even thatthe homeowner they're about to break into the
house of has a gun, theywill think twice. More often than not,
we'll have a lot of criminals thatlook for a new way, a
different way to make a living andbe productive and do well for their for
their family and themselves without resorting tocrime. So that's that's critical for me.
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The border and the voter ID,and the voter ID to me is
kind of silly where they talk about, oh, it's discriminatory. People get
licenses or county ideas if they don'tdrive, and there's no problem, and
it should be the same with thevoter ID. It's it's such an important
thing. Now. I'm not abig guy on having seventeen different kinds of
licenses, hardly, but a voterID is one of the few things that
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I would say is really essential forthe integrity of our voting in our democracy.
I feel that there is a lotof doubt about how elections are working,
that they're they A lot of peoplethink there's no integrity there, and
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you know, whatever the real casemay be, the fact is if we
have a lot of people doubting theintegrity of the voting system to the point
that they don't want to participate,that's really bad. We need to encourage
people to know that, yes,their vote is being counted, invalid votes
are not being counted, and we'regetting the true will of the people.
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So as far as the border,of course, and we got to finish
that wall, I mean, westarted it and things were going much better.
Now we have such a humanitarian crisis, plus the fentamyl and other criminal
problems from that So another thing I'vebeen pushing about is the opioid crisis to
try to say that we have rightnow, we have the perfect storm going
on of the drug addiction, thehomelessness, and the mental health crises,
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and people don't need a temporary handoutto fix that. They need something that
really gives them that hand up,as as the saying goes versus a handout
and really enables them. Like oneof the things I want to do as
far as the unemployments in the scenariois to push for the job training or
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retraining, things like that and enablingpeople to become self sufficient and independent.
Unfortunately a lot of people in government, like I said near the beginning,
they don't want an independent public.They want people who are dependent on the
government so that they can keep expandingit. And that's the problem. I
mentioned the infrastructure, the prevailing wagefor the roads and all that stuff.
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Also the climate change, I meanone thing as far as renewable energy,
electricity and the wind, I mean, in one way or another, pretty
much the same carbon footprint as theoil, which no one will acknowledge.
Who fights for those other things.I mean, really the cleanest form is
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nuclear and the technology is pretty darnsafe actually. I mean people get scared
about it in general because of somethingthat happened in Russia forty years ago.
But the fact is, you know, things are much better in terms of
that technology and to make safe power. I mean France, I think it's
around ninety percent of their power comesfrom nuclear and they don't have any problems.
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And then so the last item,sorry, I hope I went through
fast enough. But pro life basically, yeah, I feel that as opposed
to let's say the fifties or thesixties, where say, for example,
a woman who becomes pregnant out ofmarriage, that was a very negative impact
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on her life in many ways.People who would look for abortions and if
it wasn't legal, they would doit themselves and sometimes hurt themselves very badly.
And the stigma was there too,I mean people gossiped and talked about
all of it, and opportunities wererestricted. Now I don't see anything like
that at all in terms of thenegative impact on the mother. So plus,
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they have options, I mean thereis the adoption option, there's also
other programs that will help them ifthey do decide to keep their baby.
I would much rather see those livesyou know, become that they are born
and grow and live to contribute tosociety. There's probably not a way to
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restrict it totally. I would preferthat it's as little as possible as we
can push for because I think thatagain, every life is precious, so
we really need to help those situationswhere it is a difficult situation to make
it the best we can and nothave to lose that child. Then those
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are my big highlights. Perfect perfect, perfect timing. Greg. I want
to thank you for taking time atyour schedule perfect timing to come on my
show and for my listeners. Ihave highlighted if you go to the bio
at block Talk Radio in a descriptionunder Greg's name, his link for his
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website is there if you want todonate. So if you don't remember his
website, you can go to thedescription under the chunks you show me Greg
Neal for US Congress New Jersey's existrictand his name is highlighted and you can
click on that link. It'll takeyou right to his website. Greg,
thank you so much for taking yourtime again to come on our show and
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share your views, share your historyof who you are. The educational back
around your family and some of thethings that you are concerned about. We're
very grateful to have you on theshow. We wish you the best of
luck in We're going to keep youand your family in prayer. Thank you
well. I certainly appreciate that,and thanks for the opportunity. I always
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like sharing ideas with folks and let'smake this a better world. Amen.
Thank you so much, Greg,and look forward to seeing you tomorrow night
on American First Patriot Podcast. Havea good day, looking forward coming.
Thank you too. We just hadGreg Meal for US Congress New Jersey Sister
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Strick in the studio. He's alsogoing to be appearing on American First Patriot
Podcast tomorrow from seven to eight.We're going to talk more about national issues.
Today he spoke about issues mostly aboutNew Jersey for most of the show
since he's running out of New Jersey. Next up on Thursday at six o'clock,
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Good Night now
A lot holt radia. This isthe Chauncy Show where we're always right and
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never left. We put God firstin politics second. Welcome to the show.
I'm your host, Chauncy Brown.We have an exciting show lined up
for you today. We have agentleman that has been fighting on the front
line against mass mandates and arbitrary executiveorders in New Jersey from day one since
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the pandemic in Murphy has tried toimpose his will upon the people of New
Jersey. Greg Neil is probably oneof the most educated individuals that I will
be interviewing and I have interviewed sinceI've been interviewing candidates to growth the country.
He has an extensive background and Iwill let him explain. He is
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probably one of the most qualified individualsrunning for Congress in the country today,
and I am proud to have GregNeil on my show. Is running for
US Congress in New Jersey Sister District. Welcome to the show. Greg,
How are you. I'm doing great, Jaunson, Thanks so much for having
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me. Greg. Like I saidearlier, You're welcome. You know you
have an extensive educational background. I'lllet you share with the listeners. I'll
let you unpack who you are,your educational background, and how we got
to where we are today. Thatyou're a candidate in New Jersey sister district
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for Congress. Sure, I meangrowing up we were not well off at
all, and my father was bluecollar, sometimes two full time jobs,
especially during carter years, working ina warehouse. He was the guy in
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a bookbinding shop that would cut thebig paper on the big saw one or
the blade. One of the fewthat never lost a finger his entire career,
but he struggled to make ends meet. My mother took care of us
at home. I grew up inBergen County, up in Rochelle Park,
next to Paramis. I went tohigh school actually in Paramus, and so
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growing up like that, one thingI want to do was certainly try to
do better for the next generation andalso try to develop some skills to help
people. So one thing I hadgone for me was that I happened to
do well in school, and Ithought I should play to my strengths.
So I pushed out about as faras I could take it. Man,
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So after getting an understatement, bythe way, yeah you have once,
Greg tells you the multiple degrees hehas. Uh, then I'll tell you
that it's an understatement. I didn'tmean to cutch the wolf, but you
know, not at all now.I mean, once, one thing folks
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have to remember my my day jobcurrently is as an attorney, so understating
is the watchword of the business.But yeah, I mean I I was
getting to the end of high schooland uh, my counselors were like,
you're going to college, right becauseI did well. And meanwhile at home,
the family was talking about how canwe afford this? Because, uh,
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well, from example, my parents, they had to drop out of
high school to start working and help, you know, contribute to the family
that they were growing up in.And the question was whether I would have
to start doing that right away.But fortunately, because of my academics,
I had about a year's worth ofcollege credit before I finished high school.
So restraining it, I would sayto you, look at local state school,
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cheap tuition. You know, loans, you know, specially student loans
was a dirty word back then forfolks without the Internet and without much means,
you know, any kind of loanwas terrifying. So I went local
to Montclair State and I was ableto finish in three years because of that
year worth of credit, but alsoI accelerated some there and I had a
very light last semester with a doublemajor math and computer science. I was
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very much a numbers guy and scienceguy. And so actually after I finished
that program in May that year,which was, I hate to say,
but was eighty six, I startedworking in the summer and by September I
was back in school doing a computerMasters. Main thing was trying to develop
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a high level of skills as muchas possible so that I could be of
help to people, and that's thetheme throughout my educational background. So in
fact, I was the only onethat went back out of the people who
joined the job in that summer togo to school right away again. But
I felt I needed to do it, so I spent a couple of years
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that was at Stevens Institute and sofinished that time. And initially I was
with AT and T, but Imoved into Wall Street firms after that job
and pretty much fell in love withthe industry. I started in nineteen ninety
in that business, and in themid nineties I was thinking, Okay,
you know, the technology is greatand all, but I fell in love
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with the business, and I wantedto learn more. So by ninety two.
There was a slight downturn before thatin the economy, and I thought
I should have some more skills andwhat have you, and I could keep
doing what I do and helping others. So I was looking at a finance
and economics MBA. Coincidentally, atthe time, a few folks that I
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knew, either work or friends orwhatever, suggest that I should look also
at possibly a law degree because there'sa lot of regulation in finance. So
instead of being one to choose oneor the other, and it's the trouble
with me is you know you'd giveme a couple of ideas, I'll take
them both. So I did thedual degree, actually the NBA and the
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JD. So that was five years, four nights a week, and that
was a grind, but I stayedmotivated by what I would have at the
end, which again I was tryingto equit myself. So I really had
the skills and capacity, hopefully tohelp as many people as possible. So
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I finished that. Finally I tookthe bar that was in the summer of
ninety eight, and was still fascinatedby the law. By that point,
so I went back for an LMLaw Masters the fall of ninety eight right
after the exam, so another twoand a half years, but it was
only two nights a week, sothat I was practically a vacation. So
I finished up right around the beginningof two thousand and one with school,
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and interestingly enough, by two thousandand three I had been approached by Stevens,
one of my old alma maters,to do development of courses and then
teach them, so I actually didthat from three to twelve with them,
and a few years in between therealso with Fairley Dickinson. By the way,
the dual degree was brew College andNew York Law School, and then
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NYU Law for the Masters. ButI spent a lot of days going to
work in the city. I wouldget up five o'clock, leave by six
thirty to get to the early morningmeetings, finished my work day six o'clock,
go to class still in the cityusually till out nine thirty, give
or take, and then take thetrain home get home around eleven. At
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the time, my daughters were verysmall, so I would spend time with
them, so I didn't miss anythingtill about two in the morning. Before
they went just started going to schooland then during the week just to get
the three hours sleep in there andturn right around and do it again.
And because I didn't want to missout on anything, I really I pushed
myself very hard to get through allof that, and so I feel very
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happy that I didn't waste that opportunityand that I did keep up with it.
Godless you, especially to maintain afamily while still thinking about serving people
and getting all that education is awesome. Greg. My head is off to
you, and you know, thankyou so much for what you the effort
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that you put in, because nowyou've made yourself to quip to be you
know, candidate Congress. Um.What made you decide to get involved in
politics? I know, briefly,you know, I spoke in the introduction
about your activism pushing back against Aubertorymandates of the governor and pushing back against
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mask mandates. Um. Where didyour political interests begin? Um? And
then how did we get to thispoint as the running That's a that's a
fun question for me. I alwayslove answering this, so uh my first
interesting Sorry, I'm glad. Ohyeah, now this this is a softball
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for me. So I appreciate that. Um yeah, yeah, first had
exposure to politics. Actually I justmissed being aware of it, to see
water date happen and all of thatstuff. The first thing was actually the
Ford Carter election time. I wasin this uh you know, they call
it Gifted and Talented program in elementaryschool, and our project that year for
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seventy six was to do a mockelection with the student body in our school,
and it was fascinating to me tosee the process, you know,
not having ever of course, Iwas too young to vote yet, so
I'd never went to the polling placeand went in the booth and all this
stuff. So it was a realearly exposure for me to be able to
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see that, and I just enjoyedit so much, and it caused me
to find a book I was ableto locate at the time that had the
the colored maps of all the electionresults from the past since the beginning of
the country. So I studied.I studied all those elections prior to that,
right up to seventy two was theprevious one, and so I became
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fascinated with the idea of how theelectoral college works, why it's there,
you know, the purpose that itserves, which I mean, it's it's
sad when people talk about the overallsort of um, you know, just
through the popular vote thing for thepresidency, it really wouldn't work well at
all. So um And plus weonly have a United States because of states
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that were still given some amount ofleverage droll College. So for me,
it was the beginning and h andI grew up in a Republican home,
and I was a Republican you know, all my life. The biggest thing
that I cared about was always theidea of small government, which of course
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was has always been part of theRepublican mantra. So what what turned my
direction a little bit was that,first of all, I guess, with
Bush Junior kind of getting on aspending craze himself much like the Democrats or
much more like that, it didn'tfeel right to me. And with Obama
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that exploded. Plus um, Ialways felt that he, uh, he
was more divisive by promoting some ofthese police shooting videos only the snippet at
the end and not explaining why thingshappened the way they did all the time.
And it was just the further divisionthat, you know, I started
to see the country, you know, more divided than I had ever lived
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through. I mean, I wasborn right around the Civil Rights Act time,
and so growing up, I mean, it was affirmative action that I
dealt with, and for otherwise itwas a lot of a lot more harmony,
and certainly I didn't see any sortsof like career impediments things like that.
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That was the basis for the CivilRights Act, I mean, and
affirmative action. I felt like itreally fixed a lot of things. But
the problem, of course for politiciansin general is if the public is in
harmony and they have to actually comeup with ideas to promote as far as
why they should be elected. Sopoliticians in the last twelve years have really
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pushed hard to create divisions so thatpeople will focus on that and be distracted
away from the ideas or the lackof them. But the fact of getting
away from the small government all aroundwas what kind of drove me away from
politics. I became very disinterested anddisappointed, and that was probably about ten
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years ago, and I spent afew years not paying attention to what was
going on really, and I didget very interested when Trump was running because
he had a whole different approach,and I thought to myself, you know
what, this guy might be independentenough that he won't blow whichever way the
wind blows as far as his decisionsand his policies. And I think we
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did see that, and that's whywe had a lot more policy success,
and certainly a lot more than we'rehaving now where seemed to be going in
reverse. So yeah, I gotme interested again. The other thing that
happened along the way was I gotintroduced to some libertarian folks here in New
Jersey, and to the extent ofthe small government thing, I mean,
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that is a true libertarian trait,and so I was interested in talking to
those folks too, and so Ibecame involved with them for a while,
and you know, they they wereinterested in ideas, and so I was
pretty active for three three and ahalf years, and I did a couple
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of smaller runs, I would sayfor office, and then last year I
was nominated by them to be theirgubernatorial candidate here in New Jersey. So
I was on the ballot alongside Murphyand Chiodarelli. And interestingly, because Tidarelli
is really, I mean, whateverybody refers to as rhino, you know
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he was left leaning because of thisthis strategy that the party seems to have
of trying to put up candidates thatlook more liberal to try to steal liberal
votes. But and so, actuallyI was much more conservative than Jack.
And the thing I heard from allthe people last year when I went to
all these protests for them, youknow, against the mandates, and met
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a lot of Republicans there, Imean, they were all disappointed and not
planning to vote. You know,it's just planning to stay home. Because
for every liberal vote you're going toconvert, you lose ten of your base
by making them feel abandoned like that, the people were just feeling unrepresented.
Because if you have a guy,first of all, if he's if he's
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just trying to be okay, youknow, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
what I really think, and that'sconservative, but I'm going to tell these
other folks in this other audience adifferent story. Well, first of all,
how do you know which one ishow he really feels? Secondly,
is that the kind of leader youwant that just says what everybody wants to
hear every time? And I meanhe can't possibly do mutually exclusive things so
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it was tough to see that,and I understood the frustrations, and that's
why I felt like, you know, I was in a good position to
understand what the Republican voters were lookingfor here. I mean, the last
four statewide races, the Republicans havehad rhino candidates, one of them now
actually trying to pretend to be AmericaFirst. But what has the history out
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there that everybody knows, so thestrategy just doesn't work. The last one
who won here and I mean I'mnot a fan of his for how things
wound up towards the end of histime in office, but Christy was the
last one ran truly conservative campaigns andhe won two times. So I felt
that, you know, that wasa gap. The party was struggling still,
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the Republicans, but having met thoseparent groups primarily in the beginning,
although certainly a lot more people alongthe way last year. Within a week,
I was getting calls to come backto the party. Joined, you
know, rejoined the party run foroffice under the Republican banner, and I
said, well, my fans ismy stance, my platform is my platform,
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which I mean I wouldn't say I'mone hundred percent in lined with any
party's sort of official platform. ButI'm probably about ninety percent on the Libertarian
and ninety percent also on the Republican. It's just there's a little bit of
difference out of which issues are theother ten. But you know, these
folks were asking me to do this. I mean I had just as comparative
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you know, usual statewide libertarian candidates. I mean they might be invited to
or go to, let's say,between six and twelve events in a year
in a campaign the year, andI went to over hundred things last year.
I was all over the state,up and down, every different kind
of event. And that's what alsocaught the attention of the Republican folks who
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asked me to join them. Thenafter that, and I have the luxury
of a job where I can sinceI have my own practice, I can
basically arrange my schedule so that Ican cover a lot of things outside of
work. And so yeah, Iwas convinced to run in the sixth district.
I mean basically where we have beenliving in. What are my wife
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and I. We have a secondmarriages for each of us, and so
we have almost the reverse Brady Bunch. I have two girls and she has
three boys yea, and we hadjust just a one boy left at home
that that went to college last summer. And so early last year we were
saying, okay, after the electionand could move closer to my work which
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is in Clark. So we're lookingat getting over to with the colonial is
Lanai and maybe a touching somewhere likethat. And so the sixth district looked
like a good fit, so uAnd actually when I filed the papers,
it was early December and there wasnobody else in the race yet in that
side for that district, on theRepublican side. So um, you know,
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eventually we got a couple of otherfolks join the race, and but
you know, we're we're doing reallywell. I think, you know,
a lot of folks are getting themessage from us. They're hearing it,
and it aligns with what a lotof people are missing about what was better
times. And I think that peoplecan also tell generally that, I mean,
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my whole thing is to be therefor other people. This is not
like me looking for a title oran ego trip or anything like that.
I mean, people who know meknow that that's really not me. So
now I'm I'm enjoying the experience theride. My wife and I actually go
out a lot for the petitions we'redoing that. Sometimes I go myself,
but every so often she joins me, and we're both just fascinated about hearing
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what people are concerned about and allthat stuff. So it's been a real
great experience all around. That isan awesome, awesome story for those that
are tuning in listening to the JauncyShow. We're always right and never left.
We put God first, in politicssecond, and we're honored and proud
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to have in the studio today.Greg Neil, who is running for Congress
in New Jersey's district, I wantto talk about some of the issues I
know that you have pushed back againstmass mandates. Are you a constitutionalist and
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I don't know you know a UnitedStates constitutionalists or New Jersey constitutionalists. I'm
sure that you are familiar with bothbecause of your educational background. Where does
that fit in the narrative of yourpositions of liberty freedom? I'm not sure
we're libertarians fall into I know,limited government, but what say you?
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Yeah? I mean, well,yeah, the libertarian stance is what the
advertised at least republican stance has been, which is for liberty and freedom,
minimal government intervention a lot in people'slives. Basically, I mean, if
if somebody is doing something in theprivacy of their own home and whoever they
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are is consenting to it, Imean we talk about adults, of course,
then I mean, whatever it is, they should be pretty much left
alone. There's a lot better waysto utilize resources on more serious issues of
where people are actually hurting other peoplein some way, whether it's physical or
financial or whatever else. So,um, yeah, constitutionalist is what I've
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been called many times, because yeah, I hold very closely to those principles,
and especially you know tenth Amendment,the rights of the States, and
as to the federal being something thatshould be much more restricted. Of course,
there's been encroachment almost since the beginningof federal authority onto what should be
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more under state purview, war oreven not any of the government's business.
And I think that's one place whereit has hurt this country over time,
that there's really no need to dosome of the things that the government does
just to have the power to doit, or the authority, or to
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raise more money for fines or whateverelse that they manufacture. I think we
print enough money so you shouldn't needto collect anymore from the public. And
also although we'll still be restricted yea. Also Greg to add to just the
footnote, it the political patrons,jobs, the like you said, the
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overlapping of services. We don't needa United States Department of Education, you
know, like you said, Iif an falls under states, you know,
the overreach of government, the outof control spending U the broader broader
of regulations, h increasing services thatare duplication that are not needed to give
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jobs or to give contracts. Iknow, I've read some of the stuff
on your website that you're a bigproponent against corruption, you know, um
and there, and as we know, New Jersey is probably one of the
most corrupt states in the Union.It's unfortunate that, Yeah, there is
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so much of that built into thestructure these days, and it really is
a drag on economic performance and allthese other things that we really need to
excel in this state. I mean, now, it's always been a great
place. It's always been a placewhere a lot of people can accomplish a
lot of things. But we're notachieving our potential with the way things are
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now, and yeah, I mean, especially with the board of it.
It's interesting that you mentioned. Imean, I've been a proponent of getting
rid of the federal and the stateboard of it and even just having like
one one superintendent per county and basicallypush down the teaching methods and responsibilities to
the classroom where every I mean whenwe were growing up, every year we
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had a school budget vote on theballot and it was a sacred cow.
Everybody's like, it's our kids.We cannot say no, we have to
give them whatever money they need.But the money never made it to the
classroom. And that's why internationally,I mean people talk about, you know,
New Jersey schools are always among thetop of the country. It's yeah,
always in top few ranking, right, But when you look internationally,
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we've gone from one to twenty sixin all the subjects and that's since the
creation of the department event, Sothere's something wrong with that formula. Other
countries are beating us badly in education, and so we have really not as
prepared a workforce coming out. AndI mean, you know, we have
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some things that are in bread andour character basically as Americans that help us
to overcome some of that. Butwe could just be doing so much better
if we really tightened up the shiphere and really looked at where at the
biggest bank for the buck, wewouldn't need to spend nearly as much on
education and we could get a betterresult. So we could reduce the taxes,
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keep it affordable here, plus havea well trained and excellent workforce to
make things even better going forward.I could not agree more. I had
the opportunity to serve excuse me,in New Jersey two terms on the school
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boards and Patterson and the third largestcity in the state of New Jersey.
And it's sad the amount of topheavy it's administrative salaries and then the unions
and the tender and all other stuff, the tenure. It's it's sad because
even like a town like Patterson,even back then, I don't know,
it's probably up to twenty thousand nowperse per student, and teachers are still
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buying supplies. I mean, it'sit's it's really beyond the pale, uh
that you know, the money thatwe waste and spend. And it's sad
because the taxpayers, you know,end up putting the bill, and then
we're not getting the return. Andeven to talk about um you know,
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students, well, New Jersey isprobably one of the most multicultural states in
the country, and a lot ofthese districts where some of these students excel
are from outside the country. Youknow that, you know, you know,
whether it's India, whether it's China, whether it's Korea, no matter
where it is. You know,children that come here from other countries excel.
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Our academics are not challenging enough toprepare our children forget about the United
States, but a global market.You know, we are so i prepared.
They want to spend time teaching nonsensethat one race is the oppressor,
the under races, the victim,with critical race here and all these nonsensical
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things. It's sad that our moraleis so corrupt at this day and age.
You know, yeah, I meanfor the for the education programs like
that. I mean, it's onething to teach the history. But you
know, first of all, justabout every group has oppressed at one point,
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every other group or thereabouts. Butthank you, but they know that
that's that's one thing that's not taughtaccurately. Actually, But but even beyond
that. I mean, I don'thave an issue so much with the idea
of, yeah, let's get thetrue historical picture here, but to say
that that propagates to now you know, one group is evil and the other
side is on the side of theangels or something like that, I mean
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that that's just some nonsense. It'sreally, you know, amazing where they
think it's okay to make especially ourlittle kid feel so guilty about something that
has absolutely nothing to do with them, absolutely nothing. And I know that
that's one thing that really makes mecrazy, is uh, you know,
it has to be an even handed, analytical look at the facts and then
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allowing the students, as part ofwhat at least used to be the normal
learning process, to make up theirown minds about what they think about all
that. Nowadays it's you know,for besides, okay, you know this
is the side of good and theside of evil kind of thing I was
just talking about, but also like, oh, the government is always watching
out for you, and we shouldalways in trust everything with the government.
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I had a guide last year.He was I was doing a speaking event
at Rutgers, and one of thestudents came up to me after and he's
nineteen ish or something like that,and he said about the you know,
the mandates and the quarantining and allthis stuff. He said, isn't it
the government's job to protect me fromexternalities? And I was like, that's
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not a you know, that doesn'tmean a virus. That means like in
foreign invasion. I mean it's like, yeah, I felt like this.
This kid probably you know, grewup his parents probably told him everything he
ever did was wonderful, and stillprobably had the kindergarten crayon pictures on the
refrigerator. But where he was,he was perfect, he could do no
wrong, and therefore they probably shelteredhim and did everything for him and protected
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him from the real world. Andnow that he's too old to still go
back to mommy and daddy and havethem protect him, now he wants the
government to take over that job forthe rest of his life. And it's
like, now, that's not howgovernment works. I mean, you need
to be personally responsible as an adultfor your own life and the life of
your family. As far as allthese decisions, for example, the medical
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decisions and all that kind of stuff, it's really weakened the character of the
younger generations just a good degree tomake them be so dependent. And I
mean when I had my girls whenthey were small, growing up and then
that kind of thing. I mean, the first priority was make sure they
grow up independent and able to standon their own two feet and take care
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of themselves and watch out for thereal world and be prepared for it.
And now everybody's afraid to be evenpushing a little or being a little tough
on the kids to grow up andmature and be ready to handle things on
their own. Everybody's so afraid thatthey just coddle the kids way past any
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reasonable time. So it's hurt us. And we have to get back to
the idea of this personal responsibility betweenthe kids that are getting older finally and
becoming adults, as well as theparents themselves. They have to be tougher
and not get upset when the kidcries the first time they're told no.
They have to get used to beingtold no, because there are rules on
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everyone on how we act in asociety, even when you're older. This
is so true. You know thatfalls into lack of discipline. You know,
in our educational system, our children. It's just really sad you know,
even when we look at people likeCongressman Aoc that public education is producing
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unfortunately, And I can't believe thatshe owls the economic and finance degree just
beyond the pale. Uh, youknow, the thought process being taught or
learned in the system that is becomingneutral, it's becoming more liberal, and
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it's hurting our society. It's hurtlike you said, it's hurting the growth
of our society. Yeah. Yeah, you look at you look at somebody
like Aoc. I mean she grewup privileged, she had a dad that
was an architect, I understand.And I mean she she went to one
of the most expensive colleges in thecountry. And I mean, yeah,
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you talked about finding economics background orwhatever, but yeah, she doesn't display
any knowledge of that. I don'tunderstand it she. I mean myself and
others that I've worked with in theeconomics field, and we all look at
anything she says and it's like,this is like against economics one on one.
All her presumptions, all her statementsabout how things work economically are totally
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wrong. And yet that was herfield of study at the sixpensive school that
she had the privilege of going toit. Just it blows my mind,
how really, you know, convincingto a lot of the younger folks,
someone like that is being able tostare them in the face and tell them
outright lies without flinching or or youknow, or blinking, and to the
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point that her, her her act, you know, is convincing a lot
of people of things that are justtotally wrong and leading us in the wrong
direction. You know, it's interestingas I'm listening to you, I don't
know if she's twenty nine or thirty. My son now is twenty nine.
He holds two degrees and heels threedegrees, but heals two from Rucker's business,
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one economics and one of his finance. And I would never ever hear
my son talk like that ever.Uh. You know, he uh,
you know, he doesn't have aparticular well, he doesn't like politics,
but you know, uh, he'sa capitalist leaning towards conservatives. And if
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I had to put a label onhim based on his education and based on
how he talks, he's already createdhis own business, you know, just
how he operates. Like you said, you know, your education normally dictates
how you operate, and with her, it doesn't even equate, it doesn't
even mix match. And I don'teven know how people buy into it,
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I mean any kind of like that. And I'm not trying to put down
any anyone's intelligence, but I justdon't get it. You know. The
problem, the problem in her constituencyis that they want I mean, they're
angry because they think that other peoplejust get success handed to them. And
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I mean, nothing could be fartherfrom the truth. You know, my
case is a perfect example, rightwith the education what I had to go
through. And g though, ismore interested in standing the flames of that
anger of her constituency who don't realizethat there's a difference in effort that led
to that difference and result, andso she plays to that rather than for
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example, getting Amazon to stay inher district there so that they could have
jobs. Um, I mean thatwas like, I mean, I couldn't
believe once once she totally blew thatopportunity. I couldn't believe she got reelected
after that because it was just likethe worst thing she could do to destroy
her consistituents. And they say,don't seem to realize because she just gets
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them angry with her, with her, you know usual, uh yeah,
the rhetoric exactly that you know,she gets them to forget about what's going
on. Yeah, you know,it's ironic that she mentioned Amazon because anyone
who would have degrees in economic orfinance would drool at the fact that they
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have the opportunity to bring that typeof corporation into their district. That's like
common sense, you know, oneon one economics, one on one.
You know. Yes, from mylisteners tuning in today, Greg is going
to be Some of my listeners alreadyknow that we created a new podcast called
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American First Patriot Podcast that aired onMondays and Wednesdays that I'm hosting from seven
to eight. Greg will be onthat show as well tomorrow, and for
those that are listening today, wewill be broadening our conversation to a lot
more American First, a lot morenational issues because you know, as we
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know today, Greg is well versedlaw, policy, and educational backgrounds.
Though he'll be able to lend alot of that knowledge to the conversation tomorrow
when we talk about policy and whenwe talk about what is going on in
Congress, and that's going to bevery informative, an educational insight and conversation
there. Greg and I are goingto have tomorrow and I'm I'm looking forward
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to it. Greg, we haveabout fifteen minutes left. I'd like you
to talk about the issues that areyour five point plan three point plan if
you have one, per se asit relates to your district and the constituents,
if you want to take that tenminutes to talk about some of the
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challenges you've identified within your district thatyou'd like to address for people that might
be listening or listening in the futurefrom the Jerseys to district. Sure,
so, um, yeah, andthen you know, if I can do
the plug of the website probably nowas good absolutely for people to check out
more more information. But that iswww merely it's M E. L.
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And then the number four Congress dotcom I have my I mean, it's
an eight point plan in terms ofthe different areas on the website, but
the first one being the personal andmedical freedom, no mandates, no quarantines.
Thing is we never quarantine the healthybefore until the last couple of years,
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and that's because it doesn't work,and it was clear that it didn't
work. The data all shows thatbasically there's uh you know, just as
much success in areas where they didnot quarantine then where they did and where
they had them. The MASK mandates, the VACS mandates. The thing is,
you know, when I talk aboutthings like that and look at the
data, people think I'm anti vax, anti mask all this kind of stuff.
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Not even a little. It's reallyanti mandate choice of every different person
to figure out what works for themmedically and also for their children if they
have a family. So that's that'sa big thing. That It's one thing
that now some of the emergency stuffhas ended, but it can still come
back. And I'm sure it willcome back if the Democrats survive enough in
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November, it'll probably be a weekwithin a week after the election. But
otherwise the small business, you know, being more efficient with taxes. I
mean one thing that I want tomention. I mean, you know,
there's cut the spending has been mytheme for a lot of things. A
lot of people talk about slowing therate of growth of spending. That's not
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acceptable. It should be in reverse. And when we touched a pound.
The school system is one thing.There's a couple of different areas, pension
system and medicaid all this kind ofstuff that's also got a lot of waste.
But the main thing is to lookat also who's getting hit with the
taxes. And also of course theinflation is a regressive tax essentially, you
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know it's hitting the poor or theworst. But also for example, we
had a New Jersey, we hadthe estate tax before it was replaced by
the gas tax. And while Iprefer not to have any tax, at
least the estate tax was hitting thewealthier people. The threshold was just kept
too low, so it was hittingtoo many people getting further down in the
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economic scale and the income scale.But now the gas tax disproportionately hurts the
poor and those who need to getto work in order to survive. So
and the tolls also on the roadwayshere, they're they're all terrible sou and
also the condition of the roads.That's another one of my points on the
site is the cost for the infrastructure. The roadwork per mile costs way more
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than any other state in New Jersey, and that's because we have these prevailing
wage laws, which is a variantof the minimum wage law. Again,
economics one on one, how howdo you think you can move one measure
in isolation to the rest of themarket. The freehand of the market will
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adjust for that and correct for that. And now, yeah, a lot
of people for the minimum wage,a lot of people that now got up
to fifteen dollars or are approaching thereon a scale process here in New Jersey,
they're doing worse than they did beforebecause the inflation has outpaced everything.
And it's kind of silly to say, Okay, we're going to pay these
people, you know, a fewdollars more an hour, but we're going
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to hold prices the same. Imean, everybody thinks like there's there's just
like you know, real uh,you know, greed and wealth going on
for the people who own those smallbusinesses especially, and it's like, no,
they are having to be very competitivebecause there are a lot of them,
so they can't afford to have abig profit margin on what they're doing.
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So when those costs of operating andpaying salaries goes up, they have
to increase their prices. And guesswhat, that's what we're seeing now,
and that's why everything is in amess economically. School choice as another thing
as far as basically where we wantit to be, where the funding follows
the student, whatever school situation theypursue, whether it's the public school system
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or somewhere else. I think competitionis inherently necessary for any endeavor, that
any human endeavor that involves trying toproduce a quality either product or or service
or what have you. It's thesame thing with schools. The problem with
schools kind of stagnating or going youknow, kind of in reverse a little
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bit lately is because we have nocompetition for them as far as the tax
bills that people pay to support theschool system. So if they're getting their
money, whether they do a goodjob or not, who's going to really
worry about it? I mean veryfew people will actually still care enough.
I mean, there are wonderful teachers, and that's the thing. That's the
people who should be getting whatever fundingthere is. It's the administrative side that
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I've been attack for over a yearand a half now that it's overbloated.
Like I said before, one superintendentper county should be plenty streamlined that side
to minimize it and will be okay. Also, second Amendment I am for
concealed carry and reciprocity, which willbasically circumvent the laws that governor Murphy has
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put in place which really are infringements. I think that the right to protect
your family is sacrosanct, and it'sjust appalling to see where they want to
restrict the lawful gun owners who arefine with doing whatever process there is and
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getting the license and all that kindof stuff. And the people like Governor
Murphy who are doing, you know, all these types of restricches, they're
not even capable of thinking about thefact that the criminals are still going to
get the guns because they don't followthe laws. And now you're just going
to leave a bunch of sitting ducksin their homes. As far as the
public, the law abiding public notable to defend themselves. If a criminal
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knows that there's a chance even thatthe homeowner they're about to break into the
house of has a gun, theywill think twice. More often than not,
we'll have a lot of criminals thatlook for a new way, a
different way to make a living andbe productive and do well for their for
their family and themselves without resorting tocrime. So that's that's critical for me.
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The border and the voter ID,and the voter ID to me is
kind of silly where they talk about, oh, it's discriminatory. People get
licenses or county ideas if they don'tdrive, and there's no problem, and
it should be the same with thevoter ID. It's it's such an important
thing. Now. I'm not abig guy on having seventeen different kinds of
licenses, hardly, but a voterID is one of the few things that
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I would say is really essential forthe integrity of our voting in our democracy.
I feel that there is a lotof doubt about how elections are working,
that they're they A lot of peoplethink there's no integrity there, and
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you know, whatever the real casemay be, the fact is if we
have a lot of people doubting theintegrity of the voting system to the point
that they don't want to participate,that's really bad. We need to encourage
people to know that, yes,their vote is being counted, invalid votes
are not being counted, and we'regetting the true will of the people.
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So as far as the border,of course, and we got to finish
that wall, I mean, westarted it and things were going much better.
Now we have such a humanitarian crisis, plus the fentamyl and other criminal
problems from that So another thing I'vebeen pushing about is the opioid crisis to
try to say that we have rightnow, we have the perfect storm going
on of the drug addiction, thehomelessness, and the mental health crises,
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and people don't need a temporary handoutto fix that. They need something that
really gives them that hand up,as as the saying goes versus a handout
and really enables them. Like oneof the things I want to do as
far as the unemployments in the scenariois to push for the job training or
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retraining, things like that and enablingpeople to become self sufficient and independent.
Unfortunately a lot of people in government, like I said near the beginning,
they don't want an independent public.They want people who are dependent on the
government so that they can keep expandingit. And that's the problem. I
mentioned the infrastructure, the prevailing wagefor the roads and all that stuff.
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Also the climate change, I meanone thing as far as renewable energy,
electricity and the wind, I mean, in one way or another, pretty
much the same carbon footprint as theoil, which no one will acknowledge.
Who fights for those other things.I mean, really the cleanest form is
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nuclear and the technology is pretty darnsafe actually. I mean people get scared
about it in general because of somethingthat happened in Russia forty years ago.
But the fact is, you know, things are much better in terms of
that technology and to make safe power. I mean France, I think it's
around ninety percent of their power comesfrom nuclear and they don't have any problems.
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And then so the last item,sorry, I hope I went through
fast enough. But pro life basically, yeah, I feel that as opposed
to let's say the fifties or thesixties, where say, for example,
a woman who becomes pregnant out ofmarriage, that was a very negative impact
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on her life in many ways.People who would look for abortions and if
it wasn't legal, they would doit themselves and sometimes hurt themselves very badly.
And the stigma was there too,I mean people gossiped and talked about
all of it, and opportunities wererestricted. Now I don't see anything like
that at all in terms of thenegative impact on the mother. So plus,
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they have options, I mean thereis the adoption option, there's also
other programs that will help them ifthey do decide to keep their baby.
I would much rather see those livesyou know, become that they are born
and grow and live to contribute tosociety. There's probably not a way to
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restrict it totally. I would preferthat it's as little as possible as we
can push for because I think thatagain, every life is precious, so
we really need to help those situationswhere it is a difficult situation to make
it the best we can and nothave to lose that child. Then those
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are my big highlights. Perfect perfect, perfect timing. Greg. I want
to thank you for taking time atyour schedule perfect timing to come on my
show and for my listeners. Ihave highlighted if you go to the bio
at block Talk Radio in a descriptionunder Greg's name, his link for his
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website is there if you want todonate. So if you don't remember his
website, you can go to thedescription under the chunks you show me Greg
Neal for US Congress New Jersey's existrictand his name is highlighted and you can
click on that link. It'll takeyou right to his website. Greg,
thank you so much for taking yourtime again to come on our show and
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share your views, share your historyof who you are. The educational back
around your family and some of thethings that you are concerned about. We're
very grateful to have you on theshow. We wish you the best of
luck in We're going to keep youand your family in prayer. Thank you
well. I certainly appreciate that,and thanks for the opportunity. I always
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like sharing ideas with folks and let'smake this a better world. Amen.
Thank you so much, Greg,and look forward to seeing you tomorrow night
on American First Patriot Podcast. Havea good day, looking forward coming.
Thank you too. We just hadGreg Meal for US Congress New Jersey Sister
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Strick in the studio. He's alsogoing to be appearing on American First Patriot
Podcast tomorrow from seven to eight.We're going to talk more about national issues.
Today he spoke about issues mostly aboutNew Jersey for most of the show
since he's running out of New Jersey. Next up on Thursday at six o'clock,
(52:00):
we're going to have veteran Corey Millsin the studio. That's going to
be an exciting show of an Americanfirst candidate running for Congress as well,
So please join us. We wantto take a moment to thank all of
our supporters our listeners and followers acrossall social media, and especially those who
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have donated to the show. Ifyou're able to, please consider make your
donation paid power Me The Chauncy Show. Paid power Me The Chauncy Show.
We depend on the donations from small, you know, small donations from people
like you, average Americans to helpus to continue to be a voice for
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we the people. We thank youwhen we keep you in our prayers.
As always, we thank you fortuning into The Chauncy Show. We look
forward to talking to you next time. On this Thursday at six o'clock PM
Eastern Standard Time. Again we're gonnahave Corey Mills, veteran winning for Congress,
on our show. We want tothank everybody for tuning in. Have
a good night, God, blessyour wall and remember keep the faith.
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