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A lot talk radiance. This isthe Jaunty Show. We're always right and
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never left. We put God firstin politics. Econdom your Patriot. Host
Taunty Brown, Welcome to the showtoday. I'm very excited to have on
a guest who as a journalist who'son the front line talking about so many
issues that were affected by from criticalrace theory, from Marxism for politics.
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Carry Baxter rights about everything, andshe has been attacked recently and it's sad
because we have a journals and notjust Carry but others who are tacked for
sharing information that is fruitful. Sowe're honored and proud to have journalists Carried
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Backster. She has written or rightsfor David Harris, Junior, Will Johnson
and others. She's worked as acommunity organizer for Jesse Jackson. She's a
dynamic individual. She has a lotof information to share, so please,
I hope that you will take yourtime today to listen to her. Let
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me welcome, without any further ado, to the show, my friend Carry
Backster Donovan, Thank you so much. Hello, I am so glad to
be here with you, and I'mexcited and happy and proud to be your
friend and enjoy this awesome opportunity totalk to people on your podcast. So
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thank you for having me, Thankyou for coming on. I know you're
extremely busy right between twenty and thirtyarticles a day. Talk a little bit
about who you are and how didwe get to this point where your journalists
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talking about FOP of campaigns, politicsand what's going on in our environment today.
Well, I started, I supposeI started my odyssey in politics back
when I was a little kid.My grandma started talking to me about I
think it was at the time Nixon'strial, and so she got me excited
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about the idea of politics. Andof course I spent my life being very
proud daughter of American resolution. Ihad grandparents who were very important to me,
who taught me about the importance ofAmerica, and so that's just something
that's always been on my mind.And when I went into college, I
got I fell into the School ofSocial Work and I got a bachelor's degree
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in social work with a an interdisciplinaryminer. But basically what that miner was
about was how to create propaganda tosupport Marxism. Basically, you know,
just for lack of a better explanation, I ended up to be a community
organizer. And I took a wholebunch of special classes with some of the
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same people who taught someone that you'reprobably familiar with, Barack Obama. And
that's in Michigan over near Grand Haven, which is, like, you know,
the center of Marxist community organizing.So I had a really good location
for it to learn that kind ofthing. And I later went on to
work for US Congressman Howard Wolpe,who was a progressive Democrat. Now he
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was a good person to me.He taught me a lot of things about
politics and how he had made itinto the House of Representatives for Michigan so
many times. And I was hisintern and he I traveled around with him,
and he taught me a lot ofreally great things. He's the one
who had me. He was hewas one of the chairs for the Subcommittee
on South Africa and Africa, Ibelieve it is, and then he was
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in South Africa a lot. Andthat's how I ended up doing some work
with Jesse Jackson. At which pointI mean, Jesse Jackson didn't do anything
bad to me. He wasn't.He was a very pleasant person. It's
just it's about that time that Istarted to question from learning what he was
doing in South Africa, and itjust I started to feel uneasy about what
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was going on about with politics,with what I now know is community organizing.
At the time, I just didn'tunderstand why they were it was specifically.
I think what my biggest problem waswas they were in South Africa and
it felt to me like they werecreating dependence on the government. When they
were talking about liberating people, theywere actually getting them more connected to the
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government. And it just didn't sitwell with me because I went back and
I thought about, you know whatmy grandparents taught me about um, you
know, I'd stays of America,you're independent, you know, you're a
child of the United States of America. You have all this liberty and great
stuff. And it just didn't,you know, didn't go together right,
And so I ended up moving outto Los Angeles kind of to get away
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from they were They were trying topressure me into like being a little AOC,
I think, is what it was. You know, they were going
to have me run for Congress,and I was very young. I don't
think I was even old old enough. I'm not sure if I was.
Yeah, I was old enough tovote, but just barely old enough to
vote at that time, and sothey were just kind of kind of,
for lack of a better term,grooming me, right, they were just
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trying to teach me, and theywanted me to run because I would get
up and get you know, firedup, and make speeches and stuff like
that, and it wasn't that cute. So anyway, um, I ended
up going to Los Angeles and that'sabout the time that I lived through the
Los Angeles riots and I saw that. And around that time, I ended
up meeting Andrew bright Park, whois having the same sort of awakening the
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things are learning, realizing the thingsthat we learned that we believed in our
lives, and so we had aseries of conversations about those kinds of things.
And I was hanging out with mygrandparents for a while, and I
ended up to work with my unclewho's a rock star and the music industry,
and I really didn't like that atall. So he wanted to get
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me a job in the music industryand I said, but I'm a social
worker. Don't you have a jobfor a social worker? You know,
Because my heart was still in theidea of service, you know, as
a Christian and the idea of servingsomeone I believe in public service, and
I wasn't ready to let go ofthat idea, and I started doing some
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job developing. I ended up workingwith felons for a while and some people
who developmentally disabled, all different,you know, on the spectrum from severely
development disabled. She was very highfunctioning. And they also had a JTPA
grant, which they then had meworking with felons under the JTPA grant,
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which is a little bit of scam. So I've seen how the left works
and a number of different enterprises,and that's, you know, pretty much
how I started to really realize withpolitics. I was growing very disinterested in
what I saw as the establishment nottaking care of the people. But I
was still kind of confused, youknow, was having conversations with Andrew Bryper,
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who at that time, you know, I don't know who knew him.
We weren't online at the time.You know. It was just a
different world coming a living through thoseriots was really life changing for me.
So I had all of these experiencesand I wasn't really quite sure what to
do with them. I ended upthen somewhere around that time he started finding
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Free Republic maybe years later right FreeRepublic, and I started posting on Free
Republic and I found all of thesepeople who were talking about activism, and
I'm like, yes, that's whatwe need to do. Our side needs
to do activism, like I knowthat the left has been doing, and
so I started doing that. ThenI had kids and I was homeschooling,
and I started doing what I callsort of gonzo journalism. That's my pal
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Hunter Hunter Thompson. I kind ofinspired by him, combined with some of
these ideas that Andrew Breitbart talked aboutcitizen journalism, and I was very fortunate
that I fell into some opportunities withbig league politics is where I really started,
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and that was very fortunate for me. With some good people. I
ended up to have an editor whosename is Neil McCabe, who to me
is just he's just a rock star. He taught me how to go from
being just kind of sloppy blogger andnot really knowing what I was doing to
someone who could, um, Ican, you know, market myself and
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be considered a semi professional because ofsome of the things that he taught me,
and when he when I was writingfor him. Those are some of
my best pieces, I think,and um and over at Bigley Politics under
him Neil McCabe. He really helpedto me, and I mean that was
like an angel coming down to helpme really understand was how a journalist works.
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Of course, it was really hardfor me and like he you know,
that poor guy he had to tryto edit me. And I'm dyslexic
too, by the way, soit was kind of hard that it just
that poor guy. But he wasan angel to me, a wonderful mentor
in person, and so I endedup then going on to National File.
I went on to some other places. David Harris Junior, who's a wonderful
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patriot. I'm very fortunate to beinvolved with what he's doing, and he's
been a very good to me aswell, so I'm very lucky. I
write for Ben Burklam, who's downat the boarder a lot, who's a
one again, another wonderful patriot.Will Johnson, wonderful patriot. These are
really good people and it's exciting becauseI get to feel like, you know,
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they're they're doing most of the faceof the work right. And then
I go and write some contents andtry to help them get their media,
their media accounts going, or theirmedia platforms by adding some contents and most
of the places, you know,they give me a lot of autonomy to
go and write whatever I want toget to get it out there and do
it the right way. So youknow, I'm in a really blessed place,
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and I've made some great contacts withpeople. The best contacts that I
have, of course, are theAmerican people who were all on this journey
together to try to reclaim our libertyright. And so this is just however
it happened. The Lord said,this is what I want you to do.
It you can be a journalist,which is really funny because I had
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wanted to be a journalist when Iwas a kid. I thought about it
a lot after reading Hunter Thompson Idelivered. I was a newspaper girl.
I had a newspaper route and Iwould go and look at the newspaper.
So these things has been on mymind for a long time, and how
journalism can really help get information topeople that they need for elections, And
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like you said in the intro,it's really really a position now that's on
the front lines and isn't that sadand scary and also exciting because we get
to serve the country in that way. And here's the thing, all of
us who are writing on social media, our ideas are all I think what
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I would call a citizen journalist.That's kind of what I got from Andrew
Bright part and I've just kind ofgone I've just kind of gone gunzo with
my citizen journalism, if that makesany sense. So that's where I am
and what I'm doing. My focusis really what I want to do.
I say, if we can getif the least powerful person doesn't have liberty,
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then none of us have liberty.So that's really my focus in my
journalism. I like to write aboutthe activists and what their story is,
what their passion is. It's usuallyit is going to resonate with a lot
of people. My intention is toget some of those stories out to people
so that they then too will beinspired to do something and serve their country
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in some way where their gifts are, where their treasure is, where they
can do it. And it's abig, huge movement now which is really
exciting, and it's because of peoplelike you having podcasts like this, getting
messages out to whomever's in our sphereof influence right and getting those people to
say I can do something too,because we can't sit quietly anymore and be
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detached from the liberty movement. Wehave to be a part of it.
And we're getting to the point nowwhere it's a desperate situation, so that
I'm trying to do my part likeyou and everyone who's listening exactly, and
we all have a role of play. And you're right, now is a
time, we're a critical moment inhistory that anyone who understands that our liberties
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are under attacked, we need tostand up. We need to push back.
I mean, you and I areon the front line, so we
we understand the censorship, the pushbackthat we've getten we've gotten from mainstream media.
But you know, you have aunique perspective based on your experience,
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and that would lead me in toask you a question that you're an activist,
you worked with progressive towards the left, talk about the less mindset now
that we're facing what we are inthis country today, can you break down
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the mindset of the left hand whyis it? Yeah, it's frightening,
it's frightening, it's absolutely frightening.So I'm being attacked right now, you
know, by a number of progressiveleftists who some of them pretending to be
Republicans, which is a salt.You know, if you go back and
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you read Salo Lensky, of courseSololensky wasn't the only community organizer, the
only one with these thoughts. Heyou know, he goes back further and
further and further, and there's youknow, go back to like nineteen thirty
two, Graham Haven, Michigan.Um. But if you say, in
general, the left, people whohad to sort of organized into a formally
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or loosely however it is, they'veorganized themselves into movements and groups that have
political power. So if you goback and you look at these kinds of
people and you think what is motivatingthem? Well, I sat with a
number of them when I was incollege, and I heard from people who
were talking about when they were involvedin doing street activism. A couple of
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Catholic priests who were involved in streetactivism in the sixties. Well, if
you think about, like, youknow, what were they doing in the
sixties, Well, of course therewere things that were going on that were
very unjust and those some of thosepeople were under a banner of things that
were unjust and did need to bechanged, and those people believed that they
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were, you know, they believedthat they were being disenfranchised. They believed
that they were supporting people who werebeing disenfranchised. If you're thinking about,
like you know, if we're talkingabout the Civil rights movement, that's where
people were really i think starting tocome out into doing very public sort of
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street activism. Of course, youhad doctor Martin Luther King, and you
had Jesse Jackson was involved in that, and you had Malcolm X, and
you had different community organizers and differentideas about how to Yet some changes that
you know, were legitimately legitimate grievances. The left that we have today have
no legitimate grievances. They're liars.They've morphed into from If they want to
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take their birthright like we started herein the sixties and the civil rights movement,
let's say they did. If they'resaying that their movement comes out of
the civil rights movements, they're they'recompletely They're completely there. Can I say
it? Cany say it on blockor THEO where their liars their liars.
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They are not anything at all likewas come out of the Civil rights movement.
Now, of course you had conservatives, and you had Republicans and Democrats
and more of Marxist liberals and alldifferent kinds of people in that whole movement,
but in general what was going onwas based on somewhat of a legitimate
grievance. They have no legitimate grievance. Now if you think about, okay,
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this three activists or green energy,that's not a legitimate grievance. In
fact, what they're doing is they'reharming humanity. They're doing the opposite.
They're total hypocrites over here. Now, what it is all about is power
domination control. That's it, powerdomination control. So you have now the
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left, the activists mostly or mentallyill. They're sociopaths, they have mental
illnesses. There are antisocial personalities,and it seems like they've actually grown that
mental illness base by agitating people withpropaganda, political pressure, you know,
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fake news of course, and wehave quite a mental health problem. I
would say that largely what we havenow is a mental health problem because they
don't have a legitimate grievance. Agreed, for those that are tuning and you're
listening to the Chauncey Show. We'realways right and never left. We put
God first in politics. Second,I'm your patriot host Chauncey Brown. Were
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honored and proud to have in thestudio former activists, former community organizer,
turn journalist carry backs to Donovan carryyou. You can continue if you would
like talking about the left. Sowith the left. Um, you know,
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if we go back and we lookat that march on Washington, doctor
Martin Luther King, Reverend doctor MartinLuther King, right, Yeah, many
more titles, many more titles getin there. If you look at it,
listen to his speeches, they're absolutelyalmost populoust they're beautiful. And um,
you look at the trials and tribulationsthat he went through, in fact
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when he went to prison, hisletters from prison incredible. We have we
have such a leader right now ifyou look what's happening with Steve Bannon today
having to go back to court again. And of course Martin Luther King was
likely a Republican, and there wassome politics and these kinds of things.
But let's just like take all thepolitics out of it and look at what
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was he talking about? And Ilike to remind people the March on Washington
was for what what was it for? It was for jobs and freedom.
And if I've had to go backfor many years I've done this, I
go back when they have Martin LutherKing day to remind people look that march
on the little buttons, it saysfor jobs and freedom. I don't forget
that part, okay, because ifthe left is done now is and this
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is where I really started to havemy breakdown with the left is when they
talk about creating jobs, they weretalking about creating jobs for themselves in a
great, big, huge administrative statethat has gone completely out of control and
is killing off our civil liberties now. So when they say we want jobs,
they're not talking about the little people. They're not talking about free enterprise
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or cutting the you know, they'retalking about creative, massive regulations instead of
what we want to do as Americafirst is cut those business regulations so that
we can have free enterprise, sothat those people can have their own small
businesses. And those are the jobs. Yeah, And if by may I
want to dovetail a second, you'reright. The jobs that they're talking about
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that they want to create is afalse narrative because if you look at all
of the cities and states that theDemocrats are controlling, these people are oppressed,
crime ridden, high taxes, yetthey still want to preach that mantra
of hope. They are not doinganything instrumental to try to bring those that
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they claim to represent. They continueto oppress them with their policies. And
I don't know why these people votefor the same people expecting different results,
and the results are getting worse inevery democratic community or democratic state in this
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nation. So when they let outto come up, you know, I'm
sorry, God, no, no, please, I'm sorry, you know.
So I look at the left andeven them trying to compare themselves.
Like you said, to the civilrights movement, there has not been a
movement since the Civil rights movement thatyou could say is like the civil rights
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movement, because I can't change thecolor of my skin. So just by
me walking down the street and beingattacked or getting a baseball back upside my
head, or being hung or attackdogs, we cannot change our color.
Gay rights, women rights, whattransgender rights, or those rights have nothing
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to do with civil rights. Andthat really correct irks me because it takes
away the message of Doctor Martin's TheKing, Malcolm X Stokey Car Michael.
I can go on and on.These people today are bastardizing the civil rights
men they are, and I'm surprisedthat the black community has allowed it to
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go on as long as they canbe. If we go back to something
that you said, why do thosewhy do people when we say those people
marginalize people? We know the peoplewho are who are being disenfranchised, who
are being oppressed, who are reallywho are working and getting nowhere ahead anywhere?
Why do those people keep voting forDemocrats? And I have This is
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where I jumped in, and I'msorry to have interrupted you, but I
was like, I was so excitedbecause I wanted to really I think this
is a good point, and Ihave to some of them sometimes it's not
too often, but this one Ithink is really good. So because they
have no other hope, because thehope in God has been taken from them
by the government to keep them dependenton the government. The hope in their
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country has been taken from them bythe Democrats to keep them dependent on the
government. All they have if yousay to them, where is your hope?
Because how are you going to makeit through the day, especially living
in the conditions that many of thesepeople are living in. How are you
going to make it through the dayif you don't have any hope? What
is your hope in? Well,it's the hope in another day, Like,
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well, what does the other daybring you? Oh, it brings
me promises from the government. It'sbecause literally everything else has been stripped away
from these people in that group ofthese people is growing bigger and bigger and
bigger as the size of the federalgovernment is growing bigger and bigger and bigger.
And I remember one of the thingsthat was taught to me when I
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was becoming social worker, and itwas a friend of mine. It was
a very good as a boyfriend,and he told me, I don't want
you to be a social worker.I think for social work is ridiculous,
and I think that the only thingthat social workers do is go around and
lie to people so that they cancreate jobs for themselves. And I was
the lord he was. This boyfriend was so honest with me all of
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the time. But you know what, he was right. And unfortunately,
social workers can be like those civilrights activists who care and who had a
legitimate reason to get into social work, and now they've become just mentally ill,
talking about imagined grievances that do notexist, ignoring problems, real problems
that affect real people, and nowthey're hypocrites. And in order to make
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it through the day being a hypocrite, taking money, lying about I'm helping
people doing things, what kind ofhope? Where's their hope going to be?
Their help is going to be inthe government as well, because it's
not going to come from God.God can't give you a someone who behaves
that way and is unethical and immoralthat way can't give them any hope in
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the future. You're lying about people, you're lying to people, and you're
keeping people dependent on the government.So basically, when I had my my
huge, you know, come toJesus moment, and I had to look
at myself and say, you're inmoral and you're unethical carey because you're lying
and you're creating dependency. So youwant to help people, and you're creating
dependency on the government. And Italked to Ken McClinton. He was in
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here and Raleigh, you may knowhim, I think you know him.
And I started telling him this story, and I just started crying. And
I'm at a Civicast event here inRaleigh, and I start crying to him.
And I didn't even know that Iwas that upset about it. And
he said, that's okay, whydon't you come on my show and talk
to me about it? And Isaid I could never go on a radio
program and too embarrassed. But Ilater went on to tell him that story.
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And so now it's a major partof my story, you know,
to have to look at myself andadmit that what I had been taught was
to be a racist. I wentin with good intentions, and I later
came out as a community organizer andas a social worker with the idea that
I could help a black person geta job, Like, how did that
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happen to me? Right? That'scalled racism because there's nobody really needs me
to help them go get a job. They can go get a job on
their own. Right. How wasI convinced to that? And that's what
the left does. And so thosepeople that keep voting for Democrats, I
understand, and I try to tellthem sometimes I write articles in general,
like I understand you've been brainwashed.You think gasolit You've been taught your hope
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and humanity has been rich from youand put back into the government where they're
not going to help you. Infact, they're gonna lie to you because
they have to keep themselves going.Okay, you know, carry awesome insight,
and thank you for sharing your experience. As I'm listening to you talk
about social work today. My momwas a social worker, but of course
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that was thirty or forty years ago, and she was also the director of
welfare and the third largest city inNew Jersey. When I think about social
work and I look at my mother, and I remember my mother would tell
me stories or even people that sheserviced, she always encouraged them to do
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better. And my mother said,I'm here to help you, but I'm
not here to support you. Thatphilosophy is gone. People like my mother
the job over that. Yeah,yeah, you can't. You know,
you can't talk that way in socialwork now exactly. People like my mother
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don't exist. And it's sad becauseyou know, I remember as a kid,
you know, coming from school orwhatever, I'd go down to hang
up at my mom's office or whatever, and I would see people that had
either mental, physical, or whateverchallenge that they had, that they need
help. But it's ironic that formy mom to get to know each one
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of her case workers clients and togive them hope. And that's the part
that they don't give you. Mymother gave people hope and she guided them
through the process of getting off ofwelfare, not trying to keep You can't
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do that anymore, right because no, no, no, you can't,
because that's the democratics plantation to keeppeople oppressed and to keep them controlled.
M h you know. And that'sthe sad way it is. It's sad
and with if you have faith inany god, any higher authority, and
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you come in and you tell peopleyou have to stay dependent on the government,
then you don't really have a facedue you don't really can't really walk
out your face if you are doingthose kinds of things. So that's what
social worker is. I was toldby a woman. It was a black
woman, and of course this isnow outside of the city of Detroit.
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Who told which is where I grewup. Who told me, you're a
white girl from the suburbs, you'rea terrible social worker. You don't know
what you're talking about. And Iwas completely dumbfounded, like, aren't you
trying to get these people off ofthe government, right? I mean I
had, I had every message,every indication, every sign that I was
right and that she was wrong.But I still kept going back, you
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know, because I thought, well, maybe I'm staken, maybe I don't
understand. I know, I waspoint light told you're a white girl from
the suburbs. You don't know becausethese people can't get off of this welfare.
They can't go get a job,they can't do it. And that
was really a huge Yeah, youcan't do that anymore to help people get
off of the government. And youknow, kind of the idea the Democrats
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incentivize, incentivize social programs for people, and now there's so many of them.
Yeah, it's and it's hard toget rid of social programs now or
welfare because now we have corporate welfare. So I don't know how many people
are aware of that. That's howcome we can't get rid of social programs
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at the lower level or listen,I am aware of some social programs trying
to just transition people off of welfare, but that's what you said. That
is not their job. Their jobis to keep them on welfare because see
what the Democrats do is is they'vegiven all the Demo subscrats have controlled government
by patronage jobs. And it's sadbecause we talked about cities and urban areas.
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Mostly all of these these workers,black Rispanics are Democrats, right,
So they're voting for their own dependenceon the government, thinking, yeah,
but it's going to help no Trump. This is why I love Trump.
This is why I supported Trump throughSickenson and I always will. And to
be honest with you, I don'tcare what he does. I don't care
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what he said he was going tograb. I remember talking to ladies.
I said, I don't care exactly. I literally care not whatever he said,
because he's the only one who getsthis thing, which is if we
were to create a huge amount ofjobs and if we were to recreate civic
pride again, naturally people are gonnawant to go and get their own job.
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If we cut business regulations and allowedfree enterprise again, those things have
been stolen from the American people.There aren't any There have been times where
there are no jobs. Now nowwe have jobs, except people are getting
paid to not work. So whatwe need is what and Trump talked about,
which is lots and lots and lotsof jobs, and then lots and
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lots and lots of civic pride.And naturally, this whole thing is going
to start to shift on its ownbecause jobs are the best freedom that a
person can have, and the humanspirit longs to be free. So a
lot of these things pretty quickly.If I may, I want to quote
Ronald Reagan, the best social programis a job. And also I forgot
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I want to say a special prayerand please forgive me followers for journalists Bnard
Shaw. That probably was the lasttime I watched CNN was when Bernard Shaw,
May he rest in peace, Godbless him in his family passed away
to the eighty two or yesterday.I wanted to take him a shout out.
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Yeah, but we are definitely livingin some very interesting times, especially
being a journalist, podcaster, anyonewho's trying to share information. It's sad
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that we're all under attack, youknow when we all are. Yeah,
when you want some praise lies andcall the truth conspiracy theory. We definitely
have a huge moral problem in thiscountry. And you said it earlier,
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we're lacking God in this country.We're lacking our Gudeo Christian values. The
left in the Democrats are trying totake it away, trying to remove history,
trying to say that Americas are racistnation. I mean everything that the
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Democrats in the left hall the right, they are guilty of. And that's
a Marxist philosophy. You blame everyoneelse or what you're doing, you know,
and the first thing you do isyou co opt our educational system.
They co opt our educational system atthe higher level by hiring multiple liberal professors,
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and now it's filtering down now intogrammar schools and public schools, and
it is really sad in the shamethey're trying to groom our children with critical
race theory, sexuality, transgender.I mean, you know, we in
this country probably have the highest graduationrate of any of my highest graduation because
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people are graduating, but they're notgraduating able to read and write or do
mad right. Our children in thiscountry, our educational system is not supporting
our kids to be able to competein a global society. They're teaching our
kids to test their brainwashing them.They're programming them. They're not trying to
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develop critical thinking for their own independentthinking, and that is sad people,
and I need every time to lookat that. I'm tired. Go ahead,
Oh well, that's okay. Thatbrings up a point that I love
to talk about, which was myson was born in nineteen ninety eight,
and in nineteen ninety eight, andI got a little blue note card in
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the mail that said, hey,would you like to be a part of
a strategic study in the school districtwhere you were? And my son was
one at the time, and Ithought, hon, I'd been reading on
Free Republic about things called the pinktriangle zone. I had started to do
some research on the nature where youknow, it's the direct of public education
right now. I just heard thatterm recently. I'm like, somebody says,
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what a pink triangles? I'm like, I have no clue. Now
I know what it is. Youknow, pink triangle zones. We're already
happening in some places. And theywere happening in Fairview, Pennsylvania, where
I lived. That was a schooldistrict that I was in when I was
doing a strategic study on curriculum,and so I said I would go and
I would volunteer. I was theonly person in the community who had condos
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volunteer, which is what a geekI am. Okay, but I was
like, I'm going to find outwhat's gonna happen with my baby. You're
not getting my child and no waypeople, because I already don't trust y'all.
So I had to figure out whatyou're doing. So I went to
the school and I found out andI asked, you know, I was
asking, well, can I seeI think triangle zone. So when we
took a tour of the school aspart of the strategic study group, I
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found a pink triangle zone and itwas true. There was a door.
On the door it had a pinktriangle zone. And then I asked,
Hey, what's going on right there? What's that thing? And the administrator
who is giving us the tours said, that's a place where it's safe for
children can go and talk about theirsexuality. And in the back of my
mind, I'm thinking, oh,heck, no, you're not getting my
kids. No way. So butI went on for a year and I
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was a part of this program toreally because I wanted to embed myself and
figure this stuff out. And Idid that in nineteen ninety eight, and
when I came out of it.Of course, they had already tagged me
identified that that mom right there isa conservative, and so we don't really
want her or her kids involved inour in the direction that we're going.
Well, excuse me. The vicethe vice principal said to me after the
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whole thing was over a year periodof time, I said, He asked
me, so, how'd you likeit? What do you think you're going
to do? Because they knew Iwas there now investigating so I could know
what to do with my child.And I said, I think I'm gonna
be at homeschooling. And he said, you know what, I think that's
a fantastic idea. I would reallyencourage you because of the questions that I
had asked and the statements that Ihad made, and in the work I
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had done with the panels and likethat. But I learned in nineteen ninety
eight what was going to happen wascommon Core. What I later found out
was that was a pilot program forcommon Core. Common Core is a problem.
Common Core is still a problem.And I've been studying, like who's
gotten rid of common Core? There'sone person, Rondo Santos, and he's
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gotten rid of it. That's reallythe place where we need to focus.
If you really want to change theschools, you have to get rid of
the common cored. The common Coreis what allowed opened the door. So
the trojan horse opened the door toall of these nonprofits and nngos to come
in to implement all of this transgendercritical race theory at a social emotional learning.
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Everything that you don't like came inthrough the door because of common Core.
But if you remember at the time, parents were saying, we desperately
want everyone to be equal. Thereforewe are going to hand over our rights
at the school board. So earlyon in this discussion and when people were
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arguing about we're going to go downto the school board and we're going to
demand our rights, I'm telling peopleyou need proper sound legislative action and activism
at the legislative building in order toget that done, not over here at
the school board. Because you guys, you got to remember that way back
when parents voted for no Child LeftBehind or mena George Bush's you know,
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no Child's left behind right without it? Yes, yes, left behind?
Yeah, Because at that what theywere doing, and I remember being a
for republic as conservatives and saying,don't give your rights away. Each school
might look a little bit different,but it's okay, it's better that way.
Well, of course, the left, and here we go with the
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leftist activists. Did they really havea grievance, No, they didn't.
They wanted power, they wanted control, they wanted dominance, and they convinced
parents at the time it's not fairthat this school has that and this school
has that, and we're not allthe same because we're not all on the
same curriculum, right And at thetime, they made their their powerful moves
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to grab up people's rights, andI remember conservatives literally saying you're giving away
your rights at the school board level. We got to go back to those
days and say we want that back. Now Florida is doing it, so
we have a blueprint. We allneed to do that. And part of
what we need to do is learnfrom the left when they were activists back
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not the activists we have now becausethey're just mentally insane, but back in
the day when activists were really doingthings, we need to go back to
them doing you know who had alegitimate grievance, because now we have a
legitimate grievance. What's happening is we'rein the place of we're saying the government
is oppressing us. We need togo back and use some of those tactics,
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and some of them are just soundlegislative action, influencing legislators through white
paper earth and you know, otherkings agreed absolutely that's what we need to
do. I appreciate you talking aboutcommon core. I think common core came
in, like you said, theearly two thousands. I was on the
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school board. Actually I was aschool board president, but I wasn't a
curriculum person. I was a policyperson per se. Board governance I focused
on because we were a state takeoverdistrict, so I was focusing on establishing
board governance policies to transition the districtback to local control. Now it took
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it just went back to local controltwo years ago in Patterson, New Jersey,
which is a third largest school districtin New Jersey. And even talking
to some of the administrators as oflate there, they're talking to our kids
about sex as early as eight nineyears old. And then I found out
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that they're giving out condoms to tenyears old. And I'm saying to myself,
I just can't wrap my head aroundthis because I have two daughters and
any of my kids for that matter. A teacher does not have a right
to talk to any child an adultabout sex. How come in the workplace.
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If you and I were in theworkplace together and I talk to you
about sex or whatever, why wouldthat be harassment in the workplace. But
it's okay for teachers to grow children. It is disgusting. It is a
moral and I pray that God hasmercy on their souls because children of God
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are the most important individuals that weshould be protecting, and we're not.
And here I have a theory onthis. The reason why there's a hyper
focus right now on human sexuality isnot really because there's some big, great
um conspiracy to make everyone sexual,although it keeps people from thinking about reading,
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writing, and math and science.Right. This was part of the
problem that I had when I myson was one at the time, and
I felt like, you know,listen, I want my child to be
able to have a job when hegets out of school. I don't care
about anything else. I want himto be working and paying his bills.
Are you there right? I'm sayinghello, Hello? You know that's what
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right. So I think that thinkyou the long and the short of it
is, I think that the focuson human sexuality has to do with the
fact that we have mediocre educators.And that's not to be a personal slam
on any one person, but we'veallowed everyone to be dumbed down because this
idea of we want everyone to beequal, So we want everyone to be
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equally miserable and poor. We wanteveryone to be equally um, not motivated.
Let me say it that in anice way, so I don't get
myself into any trouble. Lazy.Um, I don't forget. I'm a
mom, So I'm like, don'tbe lazy. Let's let's I'm gonnaknock some
chuckle heads together over here. Wecan't be lazy. So but the problem
is that we've allowed people to gapthese jobs as educators who really have They
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can't teach anything. They're not they'renot subject, they're not masterful at any
topic at all. And so whatwhat's left? I mean, Well,
everyone knows about sex, so hey, let's let's have everyone's thinking about sex
all day, and let's have everybodyall worked up over here and angry and
frustrated and not realizing. Um,excuse me, when is my child going
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to be learning about math? Okay, because they're not getting a job.
Unless everyone's getting a job as asex worker. Well, they're not getting
a job. No one how toput a condom on? Okay, I
want to know about job and thenpeace. So people that the parents have
forgotten about to stay focused on whatthey really want while they're working up in
this other acts, you know,all this other stuff, and then we're
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not focusing on what the real problemis, which is why any math teacher
is going to say I want toteach maths. I don't want to teach
to put a condom on. Sowe have allowed this transformation in our schools,
which is basically one giant welfare program. Come on in, get a
paycheck. We don't care what youdo. But everyone's learning the same thing
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because it's nationalized. So aren't youhappy. So we also need to get
rid of the Department of Education.Throw that away. That saves lots of
money. Right, let's let thefederal educating Yeah right, let's getting from
real teachers again. Who there arepeople who love teaching and they're worth their
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weight in gold. Give them allthe money they want, who cares to
make them rich and get some reallyeducating people. We could solve all of
these problems. What the only thingwe have to do is we have to
get all of the Democrats and allof the establishment Republicans out of every position
of power everywhere that we can andstart over. We have the human agency,
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we have the goodwill, we havethe intelligence, we have the hope,
we have everything we need. Wejust keep letting these people dominate and
control us for their own power.That's the only problem that we have.
If we just stayed focused on likeeverything else, will could work itself out.
Sure, there are some big problemsthat we have. It might take
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a while, but we could certainlyget started on it. And November is
coming, so that's a good placeto start right there. Absolutely, for
those that are tuning in you're listeningto the Chauncey Show, we are always
right and never left. We putGod first in politic second. We're honored
and proud to have in the studioformer community activist, community organizer, and
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now journalists talking about what's going onin the society of America today. Kerry.
We have a couple of minutes leftin the show. What would you
like to end one? I feellike I've talked to Mike, but thank
you. No, Well, issuesthat were important that we need to hear
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and talk about. So you knowthat's very very important that you're right.
If we start another topic, youmight run late knowing you and I I
might write it right right over.So well, I think again, the
most important thing that we can dois there's a lot of issues and we
need to all come to the tablewith our ideas and bring debate back.
And there's all this great stuff,but really what we need to do is
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stay focused on what's going to happenin November, when these elections are going
to happen, these mid term elections. Every single person needs to go and
get twenty people is many people,get fifty if you can, and tell
them we have got to get ridof this administrative state that includes you got
to know who those candidates are,and it's different in each areat right,
So do some research, figure outwho they are, write them down on
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a piece of paper, make photocopies, and go stand out in front of
whatever busy store at the gas stationand say, are you happy about paying
that price? Here? Vote forthese people, get twenty people. Everyone
has to do it. We can'thave a mediocre turnout. It's a midterms
like we usually do. The onlyway we're going to solve anything and do
any of these things. And wecan do it. We have the people
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to do it, we have theintelligence to do it. We have got
to get those guys out first.So go vote out, vote Dems out
right, But it's rhinos too.You got to know who to vote for
and then get more people, takethem with you, make them go,
be like a Democrat, be relentless, make people go, and then we
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could start changing some of these things. And that's what we got to stay
focused on. We can talk aboutall the other stuff later. So we've
got like what sixty days. Yeah, and add to that, I think
it's very important. Please don't domail in ballots. Please go to the
polls. I think that's the key. I mean, if you're disabled or
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whatever, I understand, but ifyou can physically go to the poll and
vote, because that there we cansecure hopefully that will have somewhat of a
fair election, because those paper ballotshave caused a lot of problems the elections
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they have And another thing, that'scaused problems and elections with people who say,
my vote doesn't count. So I'mnot going to go listen. At
the very minimum, your vote isn'tgoing to count. Okay, let's say
the vote doesn't count. What doesit hurt to go and vote? Then?
So what go vote? That's whathappened and how we got President Trump?
And who isn't perfect? Because onlyJesus is perfect and only God is
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perfect. And there are very fewperfect people that we can point to right
and Donald Trump's not one of them. And so I'm but differ between us
and the left is that we recognizeour shortcomings. They embrace it and like
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where's the badge of honor? Theykeep going, It's great, I could
fill up a whole hour without myshortcomings. So let's just save them for
another time. But we have towe have to say if we could flood,
we got to flood what we callflood the zone with votes and basically
vote so much that they can't cheat, and especially in those marginalized areas,
in those poor areas, y'all havesome problems. You need to go and
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get your people and rank standing inthe hallway of your building stand out in
the street and ring the bell,ring the bell, and say we've got
to go vote these guys out.They're lying to us, they're lying.
If they were going to do something, they would have done it, and
they have it. So times up, no more. They're the welfare recipients,
right, They're just sitting there doingnothing getting government pay. So get
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them out. And also I wouldlike to add to that, if anyone
is off on election day, pleaseparticipate and ask your local party Republican Party
organization if you could be a challenger, because that was the problem that we
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had with the last election in twentytwenty and I've talked about this on my
podcast talking about the Republican Party onthe national level failed to adequately fun to
have challengers at every voting place right, because that is very, very important
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because the challenges of the check inbalances of what's transpiring at that polling site,
and the challenges have a lot ofauthority. Please, if you have
a day off, reach out toyour local party and ask them how can
I do my part out being achallenger in a particular voting area. They
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have training, they have courses toteach you about what a challenger supposed to
do. But that's what we need. We need more challengers at every poland
district, thoughts of country to ensurethat there's a fair election. Kerry,
thank you so much for coming onmy podcast, taking comedy or busy schedule
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covering so many issues. Thank youfor your passion. Thank you for the
work that you do for America.You continually try to raise the level of
consciousness by speaking and writing about truthto power. And I'm I know personally
that you've been crucified, you've beenbanned them. You mean, you've been
really You've gone through a lot orthe past year or two. And I'm
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going to keep you in your familyin my prayer. But we can't give
up. My father always said thatif people are coming at you or talking
about you good, bad, orindifferent, you're doing something right. In
most of the time, when weget attacked, that's because we're talking about
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the truth, and that is theonly way the opposition can respond is by
attacking. So I hope that youwould come back on my podcast again when
you are freedom. We'll talk aboutsome other issues. But I thank you
so much for taking time out ofyour schedule today. It is an honor
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and I have a lot of thingsthat I want to talk to you about
too, so I would love tocome back. And I've had a really
good time. It's always great totalk to someone who you know you can
just wrap with them and they getwhat you're talking about without having to feel
like someone's going to get offended andban you. Right, thank you for
not banning me from this platform.And certainly there are people who are more
persecuted than I am, and sowe're going to keep all those people in
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our prayers. And thank you somuch. Thank you. It was an
honor, no pleasure, having on. We will be in touch and I
definitely would like to come back onagain to share your knowledge and experiences because
you're on the front line of what'sgoing on in our country and we thank
you for your service. Thanks somuch. Have a great night to take
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