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March 17, 2025 45 mins
Rick Telander shares his experiences with Mike Ditka, reflecting on their collaboration for the book 'In Life, First You Kick Ass.' The discussion covers personal anecdotes, the legacy of the 1985 Bears, and the intense culture of football during that era. Telander provides insights into Ditka's personality, the challenges of writing the book, and the impact of injuries on players. The conversation also touches on the evolution of football culture and the lessons learned from Ditka's life and career.

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