November 10, 2025 • 67 mins
A Porsche wheel shows up early, and everything changes. The moment we bolted on the VPG cup-style rim—with its lighter build, crisp stiffness, and tidy 70 mm adapter—the wheelbase came alive. More texture, more trust, and a real sense of what the car is doing made the first test laps feel like a new sim. With a 24-hour run at Monza on deck, we talk about how a lighter rim reshapes force feedback, why build quality matters, and what to expect when you push fresh gear straight into endurance duty.
From there, we put numbers to the dream many of you share: a no-compromise VR rig. We break down a Ryzen 9 9950X3D and RTX 5090 build, why AM5’s longevity matters, and how to think about bandwidth, USB-C, and M.2 lanes before you hit buy. We also get practical about storage for DCS and mod-heavy installs, the right way to connect VR headsets, and why onboard video is a silent performance killer. If you’re aiming at Pimax-level clarity or micro‑OLED headsets, this is the roadmap to high settings without the stutters.
Deals and timing matter, so we weigh iRacing’s Black Friday options—subscription savings versus long‑overdue content discounts—and compare Simucube’s steep SC2 sale against SC3’s early software hiccups. We touch on the ROG Ally vs Legion Go debate for couch laps and travel gaming, and we share where to stream GT racing across IMSA, WEC, and SRO so you can stay wired into the sport that fuels our rigs. The throughline is simple: buy once, cry once—but only after you’ve hit real limits. Budget with intent, flip idle gear, and let the upgrades serve immersion, not impulse.
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Episode Transcript
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Jason (00:00):
This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the
ultimate performance coach toolfor simracers.
How are you doing, bud?
Jeff (00:44):
How's it going?
I am doing fantastic.
I am doing fantastic.
How are you?
Jason (00:49):
SimRacing Gods finally rejoice.
I am doing great.
I have some news.
Jeff (00:55):
I feel like we need a drum ball here.
Jason (00:58):
Well, I mean, I've been the last episode, I was talking
to all this snacks about podiumone.
And you know, they they wereresponsive, but as soon as we
wrap that episode, and and thisis this is just an example of
how the Chicane podcast rolls,we don't edit out nothing.
(01:20):
Unless the camera shut off orsomething like that.
Yeah, we don't want you to seethat now.
But um, and some F bombs beingdropped, which we might do a
blooper one day.
I've been thinking about that.
Uh, I got a tracking number.
So I get the tracking numberfrom Podium One for the Porsche
wheel.
And I'm like, okay, I'm lookingat the tracking number and it
(01:42):
says November 10th.
And I was like, gosh, November10th, bro.
November 10th?
Yeah, November 10th.
At the time of this filming,it's not even November 10th yet.
Jeff (01:52):
So it airs by November 10th.
Jason (01:54):
I was a little upset.
I was like, man, come on,podium.
You gonna are you shippingthis, like literally shipping,
like with a boat?
Is this coming on to a freight?
It's a tiny wheel.
Or it's not tiny, but you know,tiny package compared to cars,
vehicles, or things you use aboat for that you can't put on
an airplane.
Uh, I was surprised.
(02:15):
Uh, woke up two days later, andit said that it landed in
Honolulu.
And right here, she is here.
Jeff (02:26):
Look at that sexy thing.
Jason (02:28):
Look at that.
Let me see if I can get her toooh.
Oh, look at that.
Look at that.
She already got buttoned up.
I put all the buttons on her.
Um, and a nice carbon.
Wow.
Jeff (02:46):
Great choice.
Jason (02:47):
This was Jeff's idea, first of all.
Jeff (02:49):
Great choice with the carbon.
It looks fantastic.
Looks like it's a factory.
Jason (02:55):
Yeah, it looks like it came like that.
Jeff (02:57):
Yep.
Jason (02:58):
Uh, the cool thing was that podium actually shipped the
wheel with the adapter here.
I don't know if you can seethat.
This this little adapter willmake it into a uh 70 mil.
So yeah.
Shout out to Podium.
Jeff (03:15):
It's a pretty sweet little adapter.
I mean, it looks pretty trick.
Jason (03:18):
Yeah, and it has their has their logo right there on
the top.
You see it?
VPG.
Jeff (03:24):
Come on.
That's pretty dope, man.
Jason (03:26):
Looks looks killed.
Can't believe the cameraactually picked that up.
Jeff (03:29):
Yeah.
Jason (03:31):
A little tiny.
Yeah, it's a little detail, youknow, nothing, nothing crazy in
your face.
First impressions.
I mean, we already sat up,buddy.
We had our first impressions.
We we spoke to Manny.
We were at the expo with Manny,but something that's mass
production, right?
Because I didn't get this forfree.
I purchased this with my ownmoney.
(03:52):
And we I actually purchased itbefore even before we even met
Manny.
So shout out to Manny for thewonderful job he did here.
Uh, first impressions are youknow, the wheel's light.
So the first thing is kind oflike um, and I know with this is
like the announcement portion,I'll make it short and quick.
Jeff (04:13):
No, that's fine, buddy.
This is I'm excited to hear it.
Jason (04:16):
Yeah, so I mean, obviously, I will have a full
review um coming because I wantto review this product.
I want to show you guys all theins and outs, but from the few
hours that I've had with it, isthe wheel's light.
So the wheel's really light,but it's really strong.
So the first thing I did washook it up to the rig, mute
(04:38):
everything, everything on therig side, right?
I don't want to hear sound, allI want to hear is the wheelbase
and how the wheel's reacting toyou know the forces.
And I didn't turn down theforces.
Because you know, the firstthing I was thinking was, well,
the wheel's lighter, I'm gonnahave to turn down the forces.
(04:59):
And that is not the case here.
The case is that I'm feeling alot more of the road with this
wheel than I am with heavierwheels, so I'm becoming a fan,
right?
And you and I can attest tothis.
When we sat in that uh DrivenDynamics $100,000 plus rig, they
(05:19):
had a four they had a Mustangwheel, which is a VPG wheel, and
it's made kind of the similarconstruction, right?
And weight.
And it felt great, you know.
I you know, it felt amazing atthe at the expo, but it feels
even better when I have itdialed to my settings, right?
Which is a topic that we alwayssay here, it's it's really hard
(05:42):
to um watch a review and justbuy off of that, right?
We always recommend you towatch many.
Um, you can watch my reviews,Michael's, you know, all kinds
of people.
But at the end of the day, whenyou get home and you hook this
thing up and you install it, iswhen you really learn how to
appreciate something.
So far, I am in love with thewheel.
(06:06):
There's some things, right?
There's some things, of course,nothing's perfect, and I will
be shooting and wrapping this upin the future, man.
Very soon.
Um, and also at the time ofthis recording, it already
happened, and I pray that I hadluck at this 24-hour Monza event
(06:30):
that I'm going to put thiswheel through hell in.
It is a cup wheel, but it'svery, very similar to the uh
GT3R, it's basically the sameshape.
It's just that the the R hastwo extra dials on the bottom,
was basically the only thing.
The only difference.
The GT3 has four.
This the cup car has two on thetop.
(06:52):
Um, and it's really nice.
The the badging is a realPorsche badge, and it is the
updated badge for the new cupcar, you know, and it's it's not
even out yet.
The cup car comes out nextyear.
So simracers are driving withthis thing before the new people
are.
I mean, they have the car out,but it's not like they're not
(07:15):
using it yet, I don't believe.
And probably somebody willgrill me to death if if they are
using it, but I'm pretty sureit's a 2026 car.
But yeah, that's one thing thatmade my week that much better.
And a huge belay my last slashapologies to podium one.
You guys are awesome becauseguess what?
(07:38):
They shipped to Hawaii for thecost of nothing, free shipping,
and it got here in two days.
Jeff (07:45):
Um, I guess you're saying that there's a reason that they
have the reputation that theyhave.
They do.
Honestly, we we don't get anickel from them, so that's just
they have a good reputation,and your interaction with them
cemented that.
Jason (07:59):
Yeah, and not only that, um you know, along the way, we
were um a good buddy of ours,right?
David, remember David from thefrom the expo met us out there.
He's also a driver for theteam.
Uh, he ordered one as well.
And there was people commentingin the in the VPG Discord, and
(08:19):
podium one reps were respondingin there.
And that's when I was like,okay, these guys are doing
literally the best that theycan.
And it's but you know how it iswhen you start.
Jeff (08:30):
I mean, they're like scraping the internet, following
their customers to see you knowwhat they're saying.
I mean, that's that's what youhope companies are doing, right?
Hey, we're gonna follow up, seewhat our customers.
I mean, that's that's like nextlevel customer service, yeah.
Jason (08:46):
And then on the other end, distant end was just as
good.
Like uh Manny from BPG Sim withthe owner, which is an awesome
dude, uh had wonderfulconversations with with Manny.
Manny was reassuring on top ofthat, like, yes, this is the
status, guys.
We you know, it they got heldup at customs, you know.
(09:08):
So, I mean, that's not reallyanyone's fault.
It could have had it could havebeen any product, you know.
And with a recent plane crashfrom Lewisville, which was a UPS
plane that was flying toHawaii.
Jeff (09:23):
Yeah, thoughts and prayers to everybody affected by this.
Jason (09:27):
That was uh wow, you know, that I guess the traffic
coming over here is demanding,you know, and with the
government shut down right now,because I I mean I don't like
politics on the show, but if youwork for the government, um I
just just hang tight, man.
I hope we can resolve this, youknow, sooner than later.
(09:49):
Uh a lot of people gettingaffected by it.
And we're we're sim racers,this is a hobby, but the hobby
needs money, right?
If you any hobby needs money,and if you don't, if you're not
getting the bare necessities,there's no time for a hobby no
more.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, my thoughts andprayers.
Jeff (10:08):
Yeah, or if you can use you know the hobby to kind of
get a couple minutes of uh destress, let your mind get off
the fact of you know what'sgoing on in the world.
So jump in there, a couplelaps, couple races, a couple
minutes of uh I mean I do thaton the let your mind get
somewhere else, yeah.
Jason (10:26):
We all have our things, man, and nothing is all nice and
pretty, and all of this stuffbehind me and all of the stuff
behind Jeff's room is allmaterialistic.
All that stuff, it it's niceand shiny one day, and then
another day is all rusted andbusted.
You know what I mean?
Don't forget about your lovedones and the people that are
around you that that supportyou, and um, you know, I don't
(10:50):
want to get emotional, you know.
I've already had a few drinksnow.
So cheers, Bill.
Jeff (10:56):
I know you got something going on over there.
Jason (10:58):
So we got things going on, uh, but we're trucking
along, you know.
Uh holiday season coming.
And I believe, yeah, I believeyou.
Jeff (11:06):
Yeah, go ahead.
This was gonna be a perfecttransition.
Jason (11:08):
Yeah, I wanna I want to let you have the the first one
that you put on there becauseJeff has been doing some
research, man.
Jeff (11:15):
He's been don't forget about your loved ones here.
And uh, you know, we're cominginto uh uh mid-November, and we
got Thanksgiving, uh BlackFriday.
Uh Black Friday is a verypopular time for uh simracers.
And uh we got a couple specialBlack Friday deals that have
(11:35):
already dropped.
Uh iracing at the time ofrecording has released uh their
50% off for new customers, 25%off if you want to re-up, and
you can re-up now, and it will,I think it added a year from
whenever you were previouslygoing to expire.
Um uh so here's an interestingstatement, Jason.
(11:57):
Would you rather that or a dealon content when it comes to
iRacing?
Or would you rather 20% offcontent or 25% off content for a
week around Black Friday?
Um because I I know a lot ofpeople on iRacing's Facebook
(12:18):
post when they did when theyposted this that everybody was
like, hey, that's great, butwe'd rather content.
Jason (12:24):
Well, I think that's very personal, right?
Because if you've been in theservice for years like us, then
the subscription is is good isalways good, but you know, I I
don't know that's a tough one,man.
That's very it depends.
If I'm a new iRacer and Ipicked up the biggest discount
(12:47):
last year, then I think thatyeah, I think that accounts that
are just a year old can getthat discount.
That's what I would do.
Jeff (12:56):
I mean, uh tracks, I mean, I think I have the cars that I
want, but I feel like everyweek, every other weekend or so,
every other week I jump inthere and I'm like, man, I only
have like two tracks that thethe the the officials that I
want to race have, you know, andI'm always like, all right,
I'll buy one.
You know, it would be great ifthey did a content and I, you
(13:18):
know, like you could kind of buya couple and get save a couple
bucks on on top of the for likeyou know, the discount once you
own like 20% of all their shit,they give you the discount.
Jason (13:27):
Which which which you're part of the 40 club now, and
welcome.
Jeff (13:30):
It's one of those that you're not proud of.
Jason (13:33):
You're kind of proud of, but you don't want nobody, but
you don't want nobody to know.
Right.
That's the thing.
Jeff (13:38):
You're like, yes, it's it's that's how you're internal.
Jason (13:40):
Like, yeah, I got that discount.
Like, I'll buy it.
Jeff (13:42):
I get the discount, but then you're like, oh my god, I
have this discount.
Jason (13:45):
That means that I spent money.
I think that I agree, I agreewith tracks that are at least a
year old, discount them.
The new stuff that's coming outright now, at least you know
that's fair.
Because they do have thesethings called legacy, but just
don't bother with those becauseif it's a legacy, that means
(14:07):
they're not using it in theseason and you won't race it
anyway.
Jeff (14:11):
I don't even update the stuff that says legacy.
No, don't you?
Jason (14:14):
Unless you really, really want to go and race an older
version of a track, and I don'tknow.
That's very subjective.
I think that um, how aboutthis?
I think that in my personalopinion, if you buy the highest
tier, we'll give you an extra15% uh for the next month or for
(14:38):
the next week.
So that way they can lock youinto getting more money.
But then if let's say you likeit in a week uh or you already
tried it before you had anaccount and you're coming back,
then you're like, Yeah, I'mgonna get the discount, and I
need like six or seven tracksbecause the boys are racing this
on X League or whatever, sure.
And and then you can get adiscount that way.
(15:00):
But um, yeah, iRacing is veryfirm with this stuff because and
usually when companies arefirm, it's because things are
good, you know.
That's what I that's what Ibelieve.
Jeff (15:10):
They got a corner of the market, right?
Jason (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, they do, and they know, you know what, it's
exciting because I think we'rein month two.
Um, and one more month we'll belooking at another development
update and another new car andanother new track.
And I can't wait, which is moremoney.
So let's go.
Yeah, this hobby, this hobby,there's no it's no secret, it
(15:36):
costs money.
It's uh, it's a it's a it'sit's a hell of a gouge.
And we're gonna go over thatgouge here in a second, um, very
soon.
Jeff (15:44):
But yeah, um, just real quick before we as we wrap up
here announcements is uhCineCube did come out with their
Black Friday.
I think it was Jason, help meout here 15 for the the SE2 and
10 for the SC3.
My act, I think give her giveor take a little bit each way.
Jason (16:03):
Um I mean we'll just take a look, guys.
Just go ahead and take a lookbecause it is planned here to do
a full-blown Black Friday sale.
I think Jeff's gonna look thatup.
And while he does that, there'salso one more early uh Black
Friday deal that's going on, andit's with Bavarian Symtec.
(16:25):
Uh, and they are doing notariffs, no import duties for
Black Friday.
So, I mean, that's it, youknow, with the current situation
the way it is, everybody elseis charging duties and and and
tariffs.
So take advantage while you canif you were looking to buy one
(16:47):
of those.
I don't have an affiliate, butI'm pretty sure Michael from the
Sim Racing does.
Um check out uh Michael, uhexcuse me, check out the
SimracingThen.com and he's gotan affiliate and discounts.
I gotta hook him up because wedon't have one.
And if that fails, then thefail safe is when you add it to
(17:09):
your cart, just put boosted inthe uh in in in the promo code.
And usually that guy has afreaking yeah, he's got promos.
But I mean, hey, supportsupport track ghost when when
when we do have them, pleasesupport them, support us,
support, you know, the the mainchannel.
(17:31):
Um yeah, but if you if youreally wanted to get you need
it, if you need it right awayand you don't have any other
option, boost it.
That's that's uh give it tosomebody, yeah.
Jeff (17:43):
So I am on the simicube site, and they're saying 25% off
uh the simicube 2 pro, 30% offthe sport.
That's not an insignificantamount of money.
Jason (17:55):
No, it isn't.
Jeff (17:56):
Here's the rub, uh gentlemen, and if we have any
ladies that listen to us, uhthat is for 200 units only.
Now, whether that's true ornot, I don't know.
And they just put that up thereto kind of trickle it out in
front of you to get you to belike, oh shit, I don't want to
lose out on the deal.
Jason (18:11):
Bro, it's like those channels, remember?
Like, call now.
You have to call now becauseyou if you don't call right now,
the freak you'll never get thisdiscount again, and this shit
is on a rerun.
And you call up, and sureenough, I'm like, yeah, we could
do a discount.
I, you know, all I'm saying is,you know, and that's a good
(18:34):
thing that you mentioned, Jeff,about the semiconductor, because
there's not really the bestpress out there about the three.
I heard, we know, I didn't justhear, but we know that it got
pushed back and some software isnot working correctly, which is
very normal for a new product,you know.
(18:56):
Very, very common for a productwhen when they're new is to
show, you know, it's notnothing's perfect out the box.
So, especially with the newtech that they're using, we'll
keep you posted.
But if you know, in today'smarket, there's nothing wrong
with a simicube too.
And right now, I have no plansto upgrade to a three, you know.
(19:21):
Right now, I'm just hanging onright now.
Um, if Cimicube wants to sendone over, I will gladly check it
out and review it.
Um, but right now I don't see aneed to take that step forward
unless, unless you have nowheelbase, right?
You have no wheelbase andyou're looking into the
(19:43):
semiconductor, then I would tellyou go buy a semicon three,
take the plunge, you know, takethe L now.
Jeff (19:49):
I don't know, dude.
I I mean, go when I move in, Imight need to put like a block
on the firewall fromsimicube.com for the next 30
days.
Jason (19:59):
Oh, because you're thinking about it.
Jeff (20:00):
Yeah, I it's a I it was it blew me away.
I don't say blew me away.
Jason (20:06):
Um But you see, I don't I don't understand.
Like you've been over to thehouse, you've been over to my
house, bro.
Jeff (20:12):
I mean, bro, you get in front of the 40 something inch,
50 inch monitors, the activepedal, you know, it it it's a
lot to take in.
But when you get to spend allweekend, you know, jumping from
rig to rig to rig, you're like,oh, like they're all saving
detail.
Yeah, they're all yeah.
I've been trying to tell you,man.
I've been trying to do that.
I know you have.
I know you have.
(20:32):
I'm slowly starting to listenslowly.
Jason (20:35):
I know I try I try to I try to save people from I try to
tell people to spend more sothat they can save more, but
that's not easy.
Jeff (20:43):
It's hard, it's an initial spend more to save more save
mortal eight or which is it,it's a it's a hard fact to
understand when you're in themoment.
Jason (20:52):
Yeah, but it's okay.
It's okay because I'm happythat you became a sim racer and
you're still here, and you'reactually part of a podcast now
talking about sim racing anddoing research about sim racing.
You know, that you came a longway.
It's kind of you know, it'sit's a little it's crazy how
(21:13):
things evolved here, but let'slet's let's continue on with the
show here.
I don't want to get emotional,that's another emotional topic.
One more news announcement is Isort of picked up on a ROG Xbox
ally, and and that's how come.
Sort of, yeah.
I was I've been right now.
(21:34):
I'm installing some custom OSon there, and I'll keep you guys
up to date on what I plan to dowith the thing.
But so far, overallimpressions, if you guys were
thinking about a ROG, go get it.
It's freaking it's freakingawesome.
Go get it.
And I came from this guy.
This is my old handheldconsole, which you can see.
Jeff (21:58):
That's the Legion Go.
Jason (21:59):
This is the Legion Go one, and I was gonna get the
Legion Go two, but they want$1,400, bro.
$1,400.
Jeff (22:09):
That's a quality desktop PC.
Jason (22:13):
That's a PC.
I was like, wait a minute, youguys slouch PC.
I don't know what kind of drugsLenovo is on.
I really don't.
I I don't know what kind ofdrugs they're on, but they're on
some some heavy ass drugs forreal.
I mean, I can I understand whatit can do, and I understand
that it's a no-led display, butit's still a handheld display.
(22:34):
You know, it it's a second,it's a secondary.
It's kind of like you use itwhen you travel, you use it when
you're on the couch.
When you have, you know, I Iuse this for bathroom breaks.
I wash it thoroughly.
I start thoroughly sterilized,okay?
Thoroughly sterilized.
Jeff (22:48):
But I my problem with it, what I got one, I got the and
this is we have no plans to talkabout the Legion Go on this on
today's podcast, but here weare.
Uh when I got it from for ourtrip for my trip, and unless
it's plugged in, it's just kindof a slouch, in my opinion.
Jason (23:03):
Oh, it will drain the shit out of the bed.
Jeff (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be plugged in.
Jason (23:07):
So did you return it though?
Jeff (23:09):
It's on Facebook Marketplace, or it will be
momentarily.
Jason (23:12):
Why don't you just return it?
When we get into the nexttopic, you got a 30-day return
window.
No questions asked.
Has it been over 30 days?
Jeff (23:19):
I bought it secondhand.
Jason (23:20):
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, guys, we have a Legion gofor sale.
We might have to do it forsale.
Jeff (23:25):
I'll make you a killer deal on it.
Jason (23:26):
We'll make you a deal of Chicane Podcast deal.
We'll throw in some stickers inthere.
Jeff (23:31):
Put in the Shakane podcast.
We'll tat it up.
We'll be ready to go.
Jason (23:35):
No, it's a great console.
It it really is.
It depends on what kind ofgame.
Like if you're playing, I'massuming you were playing F1 and
it runs.
And it runs, it runs themreally good, you know.
But yeah, you need to be itneeds to be plugged in.
Now the Legion Go has an 80watt hour battery.
This has a 40 watt, so you canget four hours, three and a half
(23:58):
hours on the lead on the newROG.
So, anyways, that's kind of itfor announcements.
Again, 24-hour race happenedalready, so I can't tell you to
go join.
Um, maybe watch the replay ifyou haven't.
Jeff (24:14):
There you go.
Jason (24:15):
I don't know if we crashed or not, but the likes of
it is very high.
It's Monza.
It's Monza, bro.
I can't believe we're about todo Monza.
Jeff (24:24):
I know it's like high speed corner, high speed.
It's only a minute and four.
High speed, 90-degree turn.
Jason (24:30):
Yeah.
And we're gonna over and overand over and over.
Oh god.
Jeff (24:36):
That active pedal is gonna get a workout this weekend.
Jason (24:39):
Yes, and this Porsche wheel is gonna be driven to
hell.
So we're gonna see giddy up.
Giddy up.
So today, um, I have a littlespecial kind of thing.
Jeff (24:52):
What you got today, buddy?
Jason (24:54):
That we kind of just came up with, and it's been recent
events.
The same way this podcast wasinspired.
Jeff does not let up.
He texted me every single day.
What do you think of this?
What do you think of that?
What do you think?
And he's looking at PCs again.
He's looking at PCs, and I'mhe's talking, he's talking big
(25:16):
boy money now.
He's talking, he's he's he'sstepping up.
Jeff (25:18):
I've been saving some pennies.
I've been saving some pennies.
Jason (25:21):
So Jeff wants to buy a rig, and I already know why he
wants to build a more powerfulrig than what he has now because
he's planning on going full VR.
Is that a true statement?
You I with no compromise.
Jeff (25:41):
Yeah, it it's it would be a full, it would be a full up.
I don't think I have raced orflown on monitors month and a
half.
Um I'm honest with you, right?
Um I don't know why.
It just is I I in it it does itfor me.
(26:01):
Um and at this point I feellike I have maxed out the quest
three.
Um and I'm just trying, I I'dlike to have a no compromised.
I've been you know puttingsaving some money every month,
you know, selling a bunch ofshit I don't use.
Yeah, um and get a really nice.
Jason (26:26):
But I can respect that.
I can I can honestly uh fromthe bottom of my heart, I can
respect that.
Because if you tell me youmaxed out the quest three, you
know, that is if you're tryingto build, if you're trying to
max, if you're maxing out thequest three, let me put this
this way, that means you'reready for a next level uh power,
(26:51):
you know, next level power.
If you maxing out that andyou're looking for the next big
boy, uh, you know, right afterthat, then we're gonna need some
horsepower.
Um and Jeff, I mean, I I'm justhappy that Jason, you know, I'm
happy that you you get it, youknow, you understand why you
(27:11):
need this power now.
You know what I mean?
You you fully understand now.
Jeff (27:15):
Yeah, and just to kind of explain to our listeners what I
mean by maxed out, so iRacing issuper optimized for VR.
It works very good.
Um, but I've been racing a lotwith the um uh the cars that we
were just talking about lastepisode with the the pack that
they released.
Jason (27:32):
Oh, content manager, the yeah, the content manager,
right?
Jeff (27:34):
So it's not as optimized.
It's it's it's gonna tax yourPC to push shit through you know
into VR.
Um and also I've been doing alot of flying and DCS, and the
quest is good.
Uh it's incredible for theprice you're paying.
Um, but I can't see the cockpitor the words that are on the
(27:56):
cockpit, especially when on myyou know, multifunctional unless
I have to put my face into it.
Um I just can't get theresolution with what my PC is
willing to you know push to it.
Um I'm just that's what I mean.
And I've messed with all thesettings to try to build, try to
do something with you know,give me a high enough
resolution, lower the you know,the the refresher rate.
(28:18):
I'm just kind of there.
Like and Jason, you gave me agreat advice when I was buying
the PC that I got, and it had itwas fantastic, it has been
fantastic, it's still fantastic.
I didn't think I was gonna beinto or as passionate about sim
racing, and well now I'm youknow, I fly uh I'm 80% racing,
20% flying, but I didn't know Iwas gonna be doing it this much
(28:41):
or as passionate about it.
So I feel like it's justifiedjumping into the deep end here.
Jason (28:47):
No, it is, it is.
I think that there's a certainthreshold with how much can you
really spend blindfolded versusthat's a great great point,
right?
Versus hey, I'm using this andI'm finding limits.
Because and and and that'sthat's the thing with this
hobby, is or or hobbies ingeneral.
(29:09):
When you find limits, then youstart looking for what can I do
to increase the performance,right?
And the first thing youmentioned to me was, well, I can
upgrade my RAM.
I want to upgrade my RAM, Iwant to upgrade my storage.
And I was alright, all right,that's already times two plus a
video card, you know.
(29:31):
So, you know, PCs have a greatresale value these days.
That's not usually what it wasin the past, but now the PC
gamer, because yes, we drivesimulators, but we are gamers.
That is the that's the truth.
The truth of it is you'rebuying gaming hardware to play
(29:53):
simulators, but it's still itstarts with the word game with
it.
So it does, you know, somebodywill buy your PC.
And they'll play Fortnite on itor Modern War or Battlefield 6,
which I love playing someBattlefield, bro.
But I'm stressed out and I wantto shoot some people in
Battlefield 6, bro, with asniper rifle.
Jeff (30:13):
I'm on there.
Jason (30:14):
I need to get you a don't make me show you that, bro,
because that's a that's asinkhole, bro.
That is you will drown.
You'll be like, what?
I wasn't a Call of Duty guy fora while.
No, this thing got helicopters,it's got jets.
It's dope.
Um, it's got tanks.
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Well, what we're gonna do todayis I I guess Jeff had some
ideas, suggestions, or uh he hadshared with me a build.
And I don't know if you havethe link to that ready, Jeff, if
(31:21):
you can get it that.
I do have it.
Uh, the one from uh what wasit, Micro Center.
And we're just gonna go throughthe specs and I'm gonna give
you my thoughts on this.
Jeff (31:32):
All right.
Jason (31:33):
Let's I will share and I'm gonna show you guys a simple
way of looking at a spec sheetand giving you a broad idea.
Is this a good build for theprice?
Jeff (31:45):
You know, Jason, this is the one I sent you just the
other day.
Jason (31:48):
Okay, let's take a look.
Jeff (31:50):
Coming right up.
Jason (31:53):
And we're not trying to make them spend.
I am not.
I'm just here to buy.
Jeff (31:58):
No, uh, and this is a two dump trucks fulls full of cash
for a computer, but okay, so youget what you pay for in this
world.
So go ahead and we'll starthere.
Jason (32:09):
So AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D.
I have a 9800 X3D.
Um, six months ago, the 9800X3D was the fastest, the most
powerful uh CPU you can buy foranything for gaming, especially
(32:31):
sim racing, especially iRacing,because of that 3D at the end.
That 3D at the end means thatit has an extra core
specifically meant for forgaming.
You know, if you buy if youlook at a video car today, you
have two options.
You have Intel, you have AMD.
Intel used to be the big dogback in the early 2000s, right?
(32:55):
With their i7 and whatever itwhatever it is that they had,
um, or i5.
Nowadays, AMD is kind of takingover, and these chips get run
hard, they can run hot and theydon't die.
They don't, they don't give up,you know.
To make one of these thingsthrottle, good luck.
You it just won't happen.
(33:16):
So the 9950X, right, is easilya $500 processor.
Okay, so now the next thingabove below that is an MSI Mag
870E Tomahawk, which is exactlythe same motherboard that I have
in my PC.
And the reason why I went withthat motherboard and I recommend
(33:38):
it is it's not because it has16 ports, it could have had five
or six ports.
It's because of the bandwidth,the total bandwidth of those
ports, right?
It had I I tell you by memory,it has two USB C 40 gig ports,
40 gigs, two of them.
(33:59):
Then it has like five 3.0ports, and then has three 4.0
ports, uh, 3.2, I believe, ifI'm not mistaken.
Yeah, 3.2.
And that right there is a crapton of bandwidth.
And what does that mean when Isay bandwidth?
It means that if I plug in anextension on that, it'll be able
(34:20):
to handle all that data beingprocessed through one port, you
know, you know, versus pluggingit into a 1.0 port or a 2.0
port.
And none of those lanes areshared, so data lanes aren't
shared.
It has four SSD slots, and twoof them don't share lanes.
And what does that mean?
(34:42):
That means that when you if youinstall two SSDs in, you'll get
max speeds out of them.
If you install a third one,then you gotta choose.
You can downgrade your USB-Cspeed to give the SSD more
speed, or you can tell the themotherboard to say no, leave the
(35:05):
two ports at high speed andjust downgrade that as that
third SSD speed, which in thisday and age, I don't know who is
using more than two SSDs.
I've always recommended two.
I always I always recommend onefor the OS and one for your
games.
Jeff (35:25):
And Jason, this is kind of what a what's I mean, you know
where I'm going with this, butuh, this is what's kind of drive
me to the new another PC is youknow, I DCS is like huge, huge,
like hundred, hundred gigs ofuh of of data files for one map.
Um, you know, so I ran out ofspace on my you know one
(35:49):
terabyte that I have in the PCbehind me.
So I was like, oh, I needanother you know hard drive in
there, and then I'm you know,I'm sharing with you know all
the you know this other you knowports, and it was like you
know, not ideal.
Um it started made that's whenit was like, and then you know,
DCS says, hey, you should bereally running 64 gigs of RAM.
It's like okay, let me look tosee how much RAM is, and it just
(36:12):
is like, dang, like I'm gonnadrop this money to upgrade my
PC, and then you start lookingotherwise, Jason.
Back to you.
This is what kind of led me toleading to looking at a new PC.
Jason (36:21):
Yeah, so I mean, can you upgrade your current build?
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
The thing is if we're aimingfor using a Pimax or using a big
screen beyond at full maxsettings, then you're gonna need
(36:42):
a processor.
So I already I'm alreadysumming up the cost here between
the processor and thatmotherboard, that's eight
hundred dollars just for thosetwo.
Then he added 64 gigs of RAM ofDDR5 at 6,000.
Um, I wish they would tell mewhich one, but uh let me see if
(37:04):
I can drop down here and I don'tknow if it says here and say it
there?
Jeff (37:08):
No.
Jason (37:12):
No worries.
We'll anyways.
Wait, wait, go.
But easily go go go down to thespecs real quick.
Just right here.
Does it say uh model memory?
Jeff (37:26):
No, it doesn't say CPU okay.
Jason (37:30):
Scroll up.
Jeff (37:31):
But it's easily we're looking at 250.
Jason (37:35):
Just about more than that, actually.
Jeff (37:38):
At a minimum.
Jason (37:38):
Yeah.
So now we're looking at athousand dollars, right?
An NVIDIA gforce RTX 5090.
There's nothing that is the topdoll, there's nothing better
than this card right now, andthat is 2500.
So now we're looking at $3,500,and then things start to come
(38:01):
down from that from that high,right?
So you look at the uh Samsung2TB, which I'm assuming is a 990
Pro.
I hope it is.
That those two terabytes go forabout 150, and then this LAN
Wi-Fi, that's just part of themotherboard and Windows.
All right, so I mean, this isjust an example build on how to
(38:27):
decipher prices.
Can you get it cheaper?
Yes, in a in a sense, right?
The thing is, who out there iscarrying a 5090?
Who out there is carrying a9950X, and who out there is
building it for you?
That's that's where the littleprice bump comes in.
(38:48):
Now, if it was it was that ifit was at regular price, then I
would uh I would assume.
Um and I was just thinkingabout this.
Jeff, you better get on this,bro, before somebody, one of our
listeners watches this.
So that's a fair point.
I got to buy now.
Jeff (39:04):
So I know I had to like hide where it was.
Um and I I did a lot ofresearch on places that had, you
know, I'm getting smarter onyou know, PCs and stuff, and you
know, my this is what my life'scome to as you know, an older
dude is watching people putbadass PC builds together on
(39:25):
YouTube.
I'm not there yet, so whetherI'm gonna buy components myself
and do a build.
So like the pre- the pre-builtstuff or pick pick them out and
somebody else puts it togetheris my game.
I did a lot of research, andthere's nothing that's touching
this price within $500, youknow, for a $50.90 and the the
(39:45):
motherboard with thatmotherboard, it's not even
remotely close to you know to tothat price.
Jason (39:50):
So um the motherboard processor, bro, and the card is
basically three thousand dollarsor more.
It's actually more than that,it's like $3,500 just with those
three components.
Jeff (40:03):
So um, I mean, this is don't have to worry about any
hardware problems forever.
I say forever.
Jason (40:11):
This is a while, you know.
Hopefully.
I mean, uh, PC parts are builtreally good these days, but um,
you know, nothing's perfect.
But I'll tell you what, I canvouch for everything that you're
buying here.
Uh AM5 is still the platform,and AMD came out and said that
(40:33):
they will support the AM5platform through 2027.
So it is not unwise to buy a PCnowadays.
You know, if we're reaching thelife, you know, the end of the
AM5 life, which is AM5 isbasically the slot where your
chip goes.
(40:54):
And that's what happened to me.
I was forced into getting AM5because my old build was an AM4,
and that means that anythingabove a 7,000 was not happening,
even if you bought it, it justwasn't compatible.
So, um, at this price range,you know, you can get a decent
(41:15):
chunk of change for your currentsetup, so you won't be paying
what we're seeing here.
You know what I mean?
I would say somewhere along thelines of half of what this
number says.
Jeff (41:26):
Yeah, I think that's probably fairly close.
Um, and you know, I did buy ahard drive to throw, you know,
in my builds that I have herethat I haven't installed yet.
So I mean, I'll take this andthrow it in, you know, the new
one.
Jason (41:40):
And yeah, you can keep this four TVs.
Yeah, you can keep this uh 2TB,leave it as a system main, and
then have all your games on that990 Pro.
It'll even off the load.
And if something happens toWindows where you need to
reinstall, all your games are ina second drive.
(42:01):
You know, it's it's a beautifulthing.
It's a beautiful thing.
I've always told people avoidgetting the big one for a
terabyte and get two twoterabytes, or or if you know,
depending on your budget, or ortwo one terabytes, you know,
because again, it nothing'sperfect and windows sometimes
(42:23):
craps out.
And the last thing you want isnot having a place where you can
back it up.
I mean, you can always you canalways buy one of these.
I have these laying aroundeverywhere, these little Samsung
drives.
But again, this is an SSD.
And if you didn't know, SSDdon't have mobile parts.
And when SSDs stay unpluggedfor some time, they tend to lose
(42:48):
data.
Wow, that's anotherconversation, but something
that's hardwired.
Yeah, go ahead.
Jeff (42:55):
I got a question for you here since we're talking about
this stuff.
So a lot of problems whenyou're running all these
monitors is you run out of umdisplay ports for so right now I
have obviously force monitors.
I think my top one is hooked upto an HDMI, so I do have maybe
one eight one uh display portopen.
(43:16):
Um you don't, you have nodisplay port open.
Jason (43:21):
You have you're using all three, and then you're using
that HDMI on the top.
Jeff (43:27):
Yeah, I guess that's true.
So my I guess it it it's stillmy still question is valid is
you want to plug if you get thePyMAX has a display port input.
Do you want to plug that intothe graphics card, or does it
matter putting it into the noyou want it inside the graphics
card because because if you useonboard, you're not using a 5090
(43:49):
no more to power that graphicscard.
Jason (43:52):
Okay, you and never ever ever ever ever use the onboard
graphics.
Why, why?
I I I know somebody, the topshata being called out on the
shade podcast, has all sorts ofproblems with his PC, and I've
been I've been been a I've beena tech for him, just low-key,
(44:15):
and he's gonna have a crack whenhe sees this.
But I told him, dude, why areyou using onboard memory, uh,
onboard video graphics when youshouldn't?
It it's not efficient, youknow, it's just not good.
It's extra load on the machinefor no reason, you know.
Put all the load onto yourvideo card, it can handle it.
(44:39):
It's uh it's a modern graphicscard.
I wish we had more ports, man.
I wish we had three of each,you know, because if I can get
three HDMIs, then I can useVSync and VR and all those
beautiful things.
But these monitors right now,they're running out of pure
power.
And I haven't had an issuebecause I have a 4090.
(45:01):
You're shopping for a 5090 thathas 32 gigs of video RAM.
That is a massive thing, bro.
Your 5090 is gonna run circlesaround my card, and it's gonna
do that for years.
You know what I mean?
It's gonna be good.
That is it's overpoweredalready for what it is.
You know what I mean?
(45:22):
So having something overpoweredat a decent price, I mean, the
card retail is two grand on thestreet.
It sometimes is two 25 andthree grand.
So when it first came out,there were like three or four
grand.
Jeff (45:38):
Um, I think you're hard hard pressed finding them for
anything remotely close to like26.
Jason (45:43):
So a lot of people thought I was crazy, right?
Like, why would you spend somuch money on a video card?
If I was to sell my video cardtoday, used, I can get like
three thousand dollars for it.
Jeff (45:55):
Yeah, more than you bought it for.
Jason (45:57):
Because it's a founders edition.
Jeff (45:59):
That's why that's okay.
Jason (46:00):
That's what I want to know.
I want to I want to doublecheck to make sure that if bro,
that's what I told you.
Remember, I was like, if it's afounders, bro.
If this is a founders, you needto drop everything and just
take the take the licking now.
It'll heal.
Licking beatings heal, bro, butyou'll laugh later.
(46:20):
It's like, yo, yeah, I got a5090.
The 6090 comes out.
The the way things are going,bro.
6090 when it comes out, it'sgonna be massively, massive
overpriced.
It's gonna be the same cycle.
Six thousand dollars.
Yeah.
And people will do anything for4090 or 5090 in that case, and
(46:42):
you'll end up in the market.
You know, I thought aboutputting up mine for sale and
just copying one from StockX.
I found the two of I have it inmy cart ready to buy.
Um, I'm gonna see.
I'm gonna put mine up for sale.
And if you notice that I miss alive stream one week, you know
what's going down.
And I made, you know, youbasically make a profit.
(47:06):
So that's a tip out there foryou guys.
Um, you know, um it's kind oflike investing.
You invest in your own hobby, Iguess.
So PC building is good for you.
It's good for it, and what ifyou start what if you want to
start streaming, bro?
You got a 50-90.
You you'll be good to go.
(47:28):
You'll be able to stream yourflights, racing, whatever it is
you want to do.
You have you have a microphoneattached up there, you're good
to go, bro.
All you need is a camera.
Uh, and I got an extra camera,just let me know.
You have it.
Jeff (47:41):
I got one floating around here.
I got the some Elgato runningaround.
Jason (47:44):
There you go.
You got the Elgato.
I got another one of those.
Jeff (47:47):
So I got two of them.
Because I just have so muchfree time.
So that's my lip, that's mybiggest problem is time.
Jason (47:55):
Oh, you got some free time coming your way.
Jeff (47:57):
I do, you're right.
Jason (47:58):
You're absolutely which is dangerous, bro, because
that's when that's when you goon when you should be sleeping.
The root of all evil.
And all you see in Jeff'sbedroom is a tiny little light
from his phone.
Like, and it's white.
Jeff (48:15):
N DXT.
Yeah.
Jason (48:18):
And the cart.
And then you sleep on it, andyou're like, shit, should I do
this?
Jeff (48:22):
Yeah, I mean, dude, I've done a couple more of these, and
and I'll be, you know, swipingthat card.
Jason (48:29):
You be laying it on, uh laying it on thick, bro.
I've done some crazy shit andjust straight up, I got the
phone like this.
I'm gonna pretend like this ismy phone.
And I got the button, I got myfinger on the button, and I use
my other hand, and I just golike that to it.
And I'm like, I didn't do it.
Jeff (48:47):
I didn't do it.
I swear to god, I do that allthe time.
What's the line we do?
They gave it to me.
They gave it to me, bro.
They gave it to me, they gaveit to me.
Jason (48:58):
But I mean, so not really a PC guide, but more of how to
read these deals, right?
And Black Friday's coming up,so it's a good time.
I I think Micro Center, uhthat's almost at cost PC right
there, like MSRP.
(49:18):
It's really hard to beat that.
I don't know how, I don't know,I don't know who they're
talking to, who they're friendswith, but that's gonna cover our
little section today forhelping Jeff out.
And um, I just wanted toinclude you guys on the show to
use so you could see how ourconversations happen off camera.
I think it's kind of cool.
(49:38):
And a lot of you people gothrough the same thing.
A lot of listeners on thestream, I get this question all
the time is should I get thisgraphics card?
Should I get that graphicscard?
And I'm like, get the bestgraphics card that you can
afford, you know, get the bestone that you can afford.
And if you can't afford ittoday, people need to understand
(49:59):
that if you can't affordsomething today, it's not gonna
go anywhere, it's not gonna sellout.
And this hobby, people need tojust hold on, you know what I
mean?
People need to save a little,be patient, and then you can buy
the stuff.
You know, I had a question,it's funny.
I had a question the other day.
He was like, What's your mostfavorite part of the what's your
(50:21):
favorite gear on the rig?
And you know, the belltensioner is awesome, and every
we love it, we both love it, butit isn't my favorite.
My favorite is the activepedal.
And then I said I mentioned,yes, the active pedal, the
active pedal.
And this guy said, Well,mention something that's
attainable.
And I'm like, everything isattainable, you just have to be,
(50:43):
you just have to budget for it.
If, you know, we're not madeout of money, dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Jeff (50:50):
You know, and there's yeah, to your point, Jason, like
the conversations you and Ihave had about PCs and me
upgrading has this isn'tsomething that happened
yesterday.
We've been having thisconversation for you know some
some some time now.
Yeah, you know, and you werelike, hey, because I was looking
at the 5070, 5080, 5080s, youknow, and we had some
(51:12):
discussions, and I was like, ah,you're right.
Like, I'd hate to buy the Pimaxsuper one of them, and then be
like, every time I put it on,I'd be like, I just waited and
you know, saved a little bitlonger and got the better, what
would it look like?
You know, you know, and if youcompare apples to apples, it's
yeah, not everybody's a case islike that, right?
(51:33):
Everybody, everybody's case iscorrect is different.
Um, but for me, I was like,okay, fair.
You know, I can wait a littlebit.
You know, November's comingwith blacks, maybe you know,
maybe I can catch some sales.
Um time it worked out for me, Iguess.
You know, so yeah, but yeah, Iacknowledge that everybody's not
in the same situation.
Jason (51:50):
No, and honestly, most of us aren't.
I mean, to drop four grand on aPC today, uh one go, one shot,
is a lot of money.
You know, it's the sameargument with motion.
People want motion and they saythey can't afford motion.
I think that if you really wantsomething, I don't care if it
(52:11):
takes you two years, bro,because guess what?
In two years, there'll besomething significantly better
at around the same price anyway.
You know what I mean?
Nothing says that you have torun out and buy this thing right
now because if you don't, it'sit's gonna be the end of the
world.
If you saved up in two years'time and you have the cash and
(52:32):
you have the money, I I canpromise you there's something a
hundred times, or not a hundredtimes, but like three or four
times better.
Jeff (52:39):
Get your point, yeah.
Jason (52:40):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, for example, let's sayyou started saving up, you know,
for a Semicube 2 Pro and yousaved up for two years, and you
finally have that 1300 andsomething, whatever it's called,
1400.
The three just got announced,and you already have 1400.
So now you're closer to gettingthe three vice getting the two.
(53:00):
You know what I'm trying tosay?
It's just people need tounderstand that things don't
need to be at the moment, rightthis moment.
You know what I mean?
Um, especially for those thathave a rig like you.
You have a PC, your PC works.
You can race on it, you can flyon it.
This is more about doing more,right?
And and seeking more immersion.
(53:23):
But do you do you honestly, isit gonna stop you from flying
today?
No, it won't.
You know what I mean?
And that's that's I'll probablyget in there.
Jeff (53:32):
I got the you know, my stick and the stick, so to
speak, uh installed now and thewheels off.
So I'll probably jump in theretonight and fly a sword or two.
Jason (53:41):
Right.
And there you go.
You know, you're still it'sit's not stopping you from the
only time I tell you guys, hey,jump on this deal, is to get you
to to race or to get you intothe hobby, to get you started,
which is why we always cover uhbudget gear.
But once you reach a certainpoint where you're looking for
(54:01):
more, then that's when we haveto, then that's when we have
conversations such as this, andwe take a look and see what's
out there, and we look at well,what's the support, what's the
life, what is the future, what'sthe future holding, you know,
and I think it's I'm excited foryou.
You know, I if if you boughtthis thing, if you legitimately
(54:24):
bought this thing, I would beecstatic.
I would be ecstatic, but that'sgonna be I'm kind of rambling,
I'm kind of just going off.
Uh you know, uh it was a funepisode.
I mean, I I love these kind ofapps, I love these kinds of
episodes because they are realtalk, you know, and a lot of
(54:46):
people, a lot of people on theinternet like to they'll buy a
5090 and post a picture with the5090, and it it might make some
people feel bad.
And I don't want you to feelbad.
You know, if you can't affordit at the moment, don't feel
bad.
You start saving up, you take$20, $30 at every paycheck, put
it away, don't touch it.
Jeff (55:07):
I mean, I I'm not a shit, like I've been putting stuff on
Facebook Marketplace, shit.
I don't, you know, it helpswe're moving, right?
But uh, you know, just I don'tuse this, get rid of it, you
know, put it on and it I I havelike a little envelope ups, you
know, that I throw the cash in,and it kind of, you know, adds
up eventually.
So that's kind of, and this isnot a yesterday discussion.
(55:29):
This has been, you know,marinating for a while.
So it's to your point, Jason.
It's just kind of cool to giveour listeners a little bit
behind the scenes into, youknow, I guess our discussions
that we have, you know, via textabout upgrades and you know,
whatever things that we'rethinking about adding to our
rig.
Jason (55:45):
Right, because it's it's important.
It's important.
I mean, we've had we've hadmore content planned for today,
but I do not want to give youthe blindfolded advice that you
will find on the internet.
And that is if you want the ifyou want the frames or the
performance, then you need tobuy this.
(56:06):
That is easy.
I can I this conversation wouldhave been over 20 minutes ago.
I just want to let you guysknow that you're not alone when
it comes to looking at thesethings and seeing how expensive
they are, because they'reexpensive to me, they're
expensive to Jeff, they'reexpensive to everybody.
This is a lot of money we'retalking about.
(56:27):
Um, and it's a lot of moneybeing shown in front of you for
the serious, for someone that'sreally serious about what they
want to do and they have theirgoals set.
You know what I mean?
For those of you that arestarting, you don't really have
that drive yet, right?
Because you need to get goingfirst.
(56:48):
For then for you to understand,yeah, I really do need a four a
5090.
Because right now, if thesimulator that you're running is
iracing, you do not need a5090.
You you don't need it.
You don't even need a 4090.
My 4090 is because of my case,my use case.
(57:09):
I dual stream, I stream toTwitch, YouTube at the same
time.
I don't want to turn down thegraphics.
Jeff (57:14):
And no, I don't you use a set of CARSA, you do the truck
simple.
You know, there's all theseother things that aren't as
optimized too.
You know, there's a reason, notjust iRacing, that you use it
too.
So right 100%.
Jason (57:25):
Yeah, iRacing is CPU bound anyway.
It's heavy on the CPU.
If anything, I'll tell youupgrade that CPU before you
upgrade your GPU.
Um, if your motherboard cantake it.
But for you, for flying, uh,yeah, for flying in VR in a 4K,
8K capable micro OLED lens thatyou want to turn it up to Ultra,
(57:47):
that's gonna take some serioushorsepower for what you're
looking for.
And you're gonna install it,you're gonna love it.
So I'm excited.
Jeff (57:57):
Yeah, it's when I got into this, I never thought I would
be using the rig as much as Ido.
It's a way that you know, wekind of talk about this every
now and again, is it's a waythat I kind of blow off steam
after my family goes to bed.
Um, I get there and race or youknow, fly a sortie or whatever.
Um yeah, I use it way more thanI thought it would when I first
(58:18):
bought it.
So it's kind of like, yeah, toyour point, like kind of max it
out looking to okay, I'm notyour you know, average user now.
I really want to jump into theexactly exactly next level of
immersion, you know, visual.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Jason (58:35):
I think we've we we we're you know you're buying the
hardware filing on here, butyou're using the hardware that
makes sense.
You're buying the stuff becausethere's things that you can't
do on and you want to do them,and this is the way to do them,
and you're spending a littlemore to future proof that that
that that that thirst forimmersion and to use the
(58:58):
hardware that you want to buy.
And I think that's the smartestthing.
It it's really smart.
It's I mean, it's smart becauseif you bought a 5080 and saved
some money, we're looking at away sooner cycle, right?
For upgrades.
You know, if you bought a 5090,that's gonna, it's gonna hold
(59:18):
its value, you know.
Even if you decide that youwant a 6090, you could turn
around, sell that, and make somemoney.
You know what I mean?
I promise you, it happens everyyeah, happens every year.
It's like buying a Ferrari.
You know, a lot of these richguys buy Ferraris, and we're
looking like, damn, how the fuckyou why would you spend that
much money on a car?
(59:39):
But then it's really aninvestment.
Another, another one, and myand my dad can attest to this.
He has like four Rolex watches.
And when you buy a Rolex watchand you're able to attain a
Rolex watch, you sell that onthe street, they go for way more
money.
And he's like, Yeah, this ismoney.
(59:59):
I wear this today.
I go and do my thing, and aftera few months, I'm like, yeah,
clean it up and polish it up andput it up for sale.
He makes money.
He gets another one.
You know, it's kind of likethat.
Ferraris are like that too.
It's like a club gentleman'sthing.
I still haven't seen a Rolexfor you know sent over to Hawaii
yet, but I mean, hook it up.
(01:00:23):
Come on, man.
Come on.
One.
Jeff (01:00:26):
Pop's a good dude.
I had the pleasure of meetinghim.
He's got a hell of a story.
Jason (01:00:30):
He does.
He's got a hell of a story.
And uh he's been through a lot.
So watches make him happy.
You know, some people, somepeople have their thing.
Some people like golf, youknow, and golf is a another
death trap of a money spendingmachine, bro.
You know, it is.
I'm looking at Tailor Maids, ornot the the new titleist clubs.
Jeff (01:00:54):
I know it's they're beautiful, man.
I play titleist older club,older older titleists but I
played.
Jason (01:00:59):
Oh, you play titleist.
I play uh PXGs right now.
Jeff (01:01:02):
Okay, all right.
All right, we'll have to getout there and play.
I mean, like we live so faraway, we should be playing golf
more.
Jason (01:01:07):
I know.
I suck right now.
Jeff (01:01:10):
Work gets in the way I'll look good while I do it, I
promise you.
Jason (01:01:14):
I'll bring the music and drinks and cigars.
Yeah, what's up?
Jeff (01:01:17):
Yeah, I um before we you know pull chocks and uh pop
smoke and turn this episode, um,close it out.
I do want to um address one ofour emails here, Jason.
Jason (01:01:29):
If you're ready to kind of yeah, man, we got an email.
Um and it uh yeah, somebody isuh about to school.
We're about to get schooled.
Jeff (01:01:39):
Yeah, so one of our OG listeners, Drew Funk, uh Drew,
dude, it was awesome hanging outwith you at the expo.
Um, you know, just justchatting and kind of just
hanging out and learn a littlebit about each other and uh just
BS with everybody.
Anyways, to the email.
Hey, Jason and Jeff, I justwanted to give you a heads up
that there is an app for Imza,and I think most of the races
(01:02:00):
are streamed on Peacock.
There is also an app for WECand RCO GT World Challenge.
I'm about a year into watchingGT Racing, but Imza and SRO GT
World Challenge are decentlyaccessible.
As always, keep up the goodwork.
Love the show.
Appreciate it, Drew.
You're a good dude, man.
Appreciate it.
Um, yeah, so I've heard I a lotof people had commented that
(01:02:22):
Peacock gives you the ability towatch that stuff.
I don't know if I can'tremember if I have Peacock or
not.
Jason (01:02:29):
I think they think you got Paramount, right?
Jeff (01:02:32):
I have Paramount, yeah.
Um, Peacock because they hadSupercross.
I was I did a lot of motocrossa couple years ago.
Yeah, and uh so I watchedSupercross.
I don't know if I have itanymore, so I might have to.
I I mean I'm about to dropYouTube TV because they dropped
ESPN, and you can't watchfootball without ESPN.
Jason (01:02:50):
And they're expensive.
See ya, and the World Series isover, so yeah, aha, lose it.
See ya, yeah.
Jeff (01:02:57):
It's just people greedy.
Drew, I'm gonna download thatapp here tonight and I'll give
it a go.
Not that you know Ims is racingright now, I think their
season's ended.
So, but uh, I'm gonna be readyto go.
I'm full in for when this thingkicks off again because it
should be fairly close tohopefully after F1 season ends.
I think we only have four moreraces for F1.
So um hopefully, Jason, thiswill fill in the gap, you know,
(01:03:19):
that we're always bitching ateach other, that they're making
so much money, but they'retaking all this time off.
Jason (01:03:24):
So it'll give us a chance to start fresh, right?
With something new.
And um, I'm interested too,man.
And I you always need a buddy.
That's what I think about withmotorsports.
You need a buddy, and you needthat buddy to be a fan of
somebody that you don't like.
Because that's healthy, man.
The the shit talking mustcontinue, and it's good, it's
(01:03:48):
healthy because then we go watchthe race, we're excited, and
when your guy wins, you can rubit in their face and send them a
meme or two because the memesare out there, bro, to get into
the general text message issalty sometimes when F1 happens.
Jeff (01:04:02):
When when so oh it's not lately, not lately, man, but
George's has been doing reallygood lately.
He's had a consistent littlerun here, so he's battling for
what third for points.
Jason (01:04:13):
So I'm sure Hamilton is regretting uh Ferrari was the
worst mistake.
Yeah.
Jeff (01:04:22):
I haven't forgot about the fact that we did the pre-race
guesses uh when we you said,hey, who do you think's gonna
score more points if they'reso-and-so and so-and-so?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will get I am tracking allthat stuff.
I know the episode happened.
We will give you an update inlike three, four more races at
time of less listening.
This, and so we'll see how ourguesses were.
Jason (01:04:42):
Okay.
Well, thank you, Jeff.
I appreciate everything.
I hope you guys enjoy this one.
This one's more of a thisepisode was more of a real talk
when building a PC, which isprobably gonna be some title
that I come up with.
But um, I think it's importantto have a discussion about
shopping for things, um,especially the main brains,
(01:05:06):
which is the PC right beforeBlack Friday.
But we are um we're gatheringinformation on we're trying to
time it right with when thedeals will drop, which I'm gonna
compare what happened last yearand see if I can get you guys
an episode to kind of keep youguys up to date with all the
(01:05:26):
sales that are happening.
But it seems like right nowit's kind of like people are
just waiting to just jump thegun and say, our Black Friday
deals are live.
You can go and shop right now.
It's like they're not waitingfor a single day.
So we'll do the best we canhere to keep you guys up to
date.
Jeff (01:05:43):
So Facebook groups are like chomping at the bit,
waiting.
Jason (01:05:47):
That that would be the best advice is to join the the
Sim Racing setups, uh Michael'sgroup on Facebook.
There's a hundred and thirtythousand people in there that
are enthusiastic, and they'regonna post something there if
you need if you need informationthe minute.
Um on my live streams, I'll tryto announce whatever I know at
(01:06:09):
the time.
And yeah, that's that's as muchas we can do.
Um, or if I see somethingextraordinary, then I'll just do
a YouTube post maybe or orInsta.
But that's gonna be it for thisweek.
Um thank you, Ju Funk, for theconsecutive email.
I appreciate those, man.
The follow-ups.
I appreciate you taking thetime to write that.
(01:06:31):
Uh Jeff, thank you so much foryour time today, brother.
We had some, you know, it's uhwe have some technicalities
here, and it's all good in thehood.
Uh, but is there anything elseyou would like to say or cover
before we go?
Jeff (01:06:46):
No, that's about it.
Other than, you know, thenormal team, all the listeners,
drive fast and break late,fellas, and any ladies that
listen.
Jason (01:06:54):
So we need to find a new one for you too.
Like uh fly high.
Yeah.
Jeff (01:07:00):
Fair enough.
Jason (01:07:01):
Yeah.
After burner or something.
Jeff (01:07:03):
I'll have to think of something.
Yeah.
Jason (01:07:04):
I'll have to think of something.
With the flights.
You know, I would love to see alive stream putting you on
this.
Jeff (01:07:11):
It's hard.
What do you mean it's hard tolive stream?
Oh, I'm talking about notembarrassing yourself on live
stream.
Jason (01:07:18):
I mean no, that's good press.
Jeff (01:07:21):
Yeah.
There's no such thing as badpress.
Jason (01:07:26):
Exactly.
There's no such thing as badpress, bro.
So, with that, guys, thank youso much.
Um, yeah, I appreciate you,Jeff, and to all you viewers and
listeners out there, have agreat start of your week.
Thank you.
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How are you doing, bud?
Jeff (00:44):
How's it going?
I am doing fantastic.
I am doing fantastic.
How are you?
Jason (00:49):
SimRacing Gods finally rejoice.
I am doing great.
I have some news.
Jeff (00:55):
I feel like we need a drum ball here.
Jason (00:58):
Well, I mean, I've been the last episode, I was talking
to all this snacks about podiumone.
And you know, they they wereresponsive, but as soon as we
wrap that episode, and and thisis this is just an example of
how the Chicane podcast rolls,we don't edit out nothing.
(01:20):
Unless the camera shut off orsomething like that.
Yeah, we don't want you to seethat now.
But um, and some F bombs beingdropped, which we might do a
blooper one day.
I've been thinking about that.
Uh, I got a tracking number.
So I get the tracking numberfrom Podium One for the Porsche
wheel.
And I'm like, okay, I'm lookingat the tracking number and it
(01:42):
says November 10th.
And I was like, gosh, November10th, bro.
November 10th?
Yeah, November 10th.
At the time of this filming,it's not even November 10th yet.
Jeff (01:52):
So it airs by November 10th.
Jason (01:54):
I was a little upset.
I was like, man, come on,podium.
You gonna are you shippingthis, like literally shipping,
like with a boat?
Is this coming on to a freight?
It's a tiny wheel.
Or it's not tiny, but you know,tiny package compared to cars,
vehicles, or things you use aboat for that you can't put on
an airplane.
Uh, I was surprised.
(02:15):
Uh, woke up two days later, andit said that it landed in
Honolulu.
And right here, she is here.
Jeff (02:26):
Look at that sexy thing.
Jason (02:28):
Look at that.
Let me see if I can get her toooh.
Oh, look at that.
Look at that.
She already got buttoned up.
I put all the buttons on her.
Um, and a nice carbon.
Wow.
Jeff (02:46):
Great choice.
Jason (02:47):
This was Jeff's idea, first of all.
Jeff (02:49):
Great choice with the carbon.
It looks fantastic.
Looks like it's a factory.
Jason (02:55):
Yeah, it looks like it came like that.
Jeff (02:57):
Yep.
Jason (02:58):
Uh, the cool thing was that podium actually shipped the
wheel with the adapter here.
I don't know if you can seethat.
This this little adapter willmake it into a uh 70 mil.
So yeah.
Shout out to Podium.
Jeff (03:15):
It's a pretty sweet little adapter.
I mean, it looks pretty trick.
Jason (03:18):
Yeah, and it has their has their logo right there on
the top.
You see it?
VPG.
Jeff (03:24):
Come on.
That's pretty dope, man.
Jason (03:26):
Looks looks killed.
Can't believe the cameraactually picked that up.
Jeff (03:29):
Yeah.
Jason (03:31):
A little tiny.
Yeah, it's a little detail, youknow, nothing, nothing crazy in
your face.
First impressions.
I mean, we already sat up,buddy.
We had our first impressions.
We we spoke to Manny.
We were at the expo with Manny,but something that's mass
production, right?
Because I didn't get this forfree.
I purchased this with my ownmoney.
(03:52):
And we I actually purchased itbefore even before we even met
Manny.
So shout out to Manny for thewonderful job he did here.
Uh, first impressions are youknow, the wheel's light.
So the first thing is kind oflike um, and I know with this is
like the announcement portion,I'll make it short and quick.
Jeff (04:13):
No, that's fine, buddy.
This is I'm excited to hear it.
Jason (04:16):
Yeah, so I mean, obviously, I will have a full
review um coming because I wantto review this product.
I want to show you guys all theins and outs, but from the few
hours that I've had with it, isthe wheel's light.
So the wheel's really light,but it's really strong.
So the first thing I did washook it up to the rig, mute
(04:38):
everything, everything on therig side, right?
I don't want to hear sound, allI want to hear is the wheelbase
and how the wheel's reacting toyou know the forces.
And I didn't turn down theforces.
Because you know, the firstthing I was thinking was, well,
the wheel's lighter, I'm gonnahave to turn down the forces.
(04:59):
And that is not the case here.
The case is that I'm feeling alot more of the road with this
wheel than I am with heavierwheels, so I'm becoming a fan,
right?
And you and I can attest tothis.
When we sat in that uh DrivenDynamics $100,000 plus rig, they
(05:19):
had a four they had a Mustangwheel, which is a VPG wheel, and
it's made kind of the similarconstruction, right?
And weight.
And it felt great, you know.
I you know, it felt amazing atthe at the expo, but it feels
even better when I have itdialed to my settings, right?
Which is a topic that we alwayssay here, it's it's really hard
(05:42):
to um watch a review and justbuy off of that, right?
We always recommend you towatch many.
Um, you can watch my reviews,Michael's, you know, all kinds
of people.
But at the end of the day, whenyou get home and you hook this
thing up and you install it, iswhen you really learn how to
appreciate something.
So far, I am in love with thewheel.
(06:06):
There's some things, right?
There's some things, of course,nothing's perfect, and I will
be shooting and wrapping this upin the future, man.
Very soon.
Um, and also at the time ofthis recording, it already
happened, and I pray that I hadluck at this 24-hour Monza event
(06:30):
that I'm going to put thiswheel through hell in.
It is a cup wheel, but it'svery, very similar to the uh
GT3R, it's basically the sameshape.
It's just that the the R hastwo extra dials on the bottom,
was basically the only thing.
The only difference.
The GT3 has four.
This the cup car has two on thetop.
(06:52):
Um, and it's really nice.
The the badging is a realPorsche badge, and it is the
updated badge for the new cupcar, you know, and it's it's not
even out yet.
The cup car comes out nextyear.
So simracers are driving withthis thing before the new people
are.
I mean, they have the car out,but it's not like they're not
(07:15):
using it yet, I don't believe.
And probably somebody willgrill me to death if if they are
using it, but I'm pretty sureit's a 2026 car.
But yeah, that's one thing thatmade my week that much better.
And a huge belay my last slashapologies to podium one.
You guys are awesome becauseguess what?
(07:38):
They shipped to Hawaii for thecost of nothing, free shipping,
and it got here in two days.
Jeff (07:45):
Um, I guess you're saying that there's a reason that they
have the reputation that theyhave.
They do.
Honestly, we we don't get anickel from them, so that's just
they have a good reputation,and your interaction with them
cemented that.
Jason (07:59):
Yeah, and not only that, um you know, along the way, we
were um a good buddy of ours,right?
David, remember David from thefrom the expo met us out there.
He's also a driver for theteam.
Uh, he ordered one as well.
And there was people commentingin the in the VPG Discord, and
(08:19):
podium one reps were respondingin there.
And that's when I was like,okay, these guys are doing
literally the best that theycan.
And it's but you know how it iswhen you start.
Jeff (08:30):
I mean, they're like scraping the internet, following
their customers to see you knowwhat they're saying.
I mean, that's that's what youhope companies are doing, right?
Hey, we're gonna follow up, seewhat our customers.
I mean, that's that's like nextlevel customer service, yeah.
Jason (08:46):
And then on the other end, distant end was just as
good.
Like uh Manny from BPG Sim withthe owner, which is an awesome
dude, uh had wonderfulconversations with with Manny.
Manny was reassuring on top ofthat, like, yes, this is the
status, guys.
We you know, it they got heldup at customs, you know.
(09:08):
So, I mean, that's not reallyanyone's fault.
It could have had it could havebeen any product, you know.
And with a recent plane crashfrom Lewisville, which was a UPS
plane that was flying toHawaii.
Jeff (09:23):
Yeah, thoughts and prayers to everybody affected by this.
Jason (09:27):
That was uh wow, you know, that I guess the traffic
coming over here is demanding,you know, and with the
government shut down right now,because I I mean I don't like
politics on the show, but if youwork for the government, um I
just just hang tight, man.
I hope we can resolve this, youknow, sooner than later.
(09:49):
Uh a lot of people gettingaffected by it.
And we're we're sim racers,this is a hobby, but the hobby
needs money, right?
If you any hobby needs money,and if you don't, if you're not
getting the bare necessities,there's no time for a hobby no
more.
You know what I mean?
So yeah, my thoughts andprayers.
Jeff (10:08):
Yeah, or if you can use you know the hobby to kind of
get a couple minutes of uh destress, let your mind get off
the fact of you know what'sgoing on in the world.
So jump in there, a couplelaps, couple races, a couple
minutes of uh I mean I do thaton the let your mind get
somewhere else, yeah.
Jason (10:26):
We all have our things, man, and nothing is all nice and
pretty, and all of this stuffbehind me and all of the stuff
behind Jeff's room is allmaterialistic.
All that stuff, it it's niceand shiny one day, and then
another day is all rusted andbusted.
You know what I mean?
Don't forget about your lovedones and the people that are
around you that that supportyou, and um, you know, I don't
(10:50):
want to get emotional, you know.
I've already had a few drinksnow.
So cheers, Bill.
Jeff (10:56):
I know you got something going on over there.
Jason (10:58):
So we got things going on, uh, but we're trucking
along, you know.
Uh holiday season coming.
And I believe, yeah, I believeyou.
Jeff (11:06):
Yeah, go ahead.
This was gonna be a perfecttransition.
Jason (11:08):
Yeah, I wanna I want to let you have the the first one
that you put on there becauseJeff has been doing some
research, man.
Jeff (11:15):
He's been don't forget about your loved ones here.
And uh, you know, we're cominginto uh uh mid-November, and we
got Thanksgiving, uh BlackFriday.
Uh Black Friday is a verypopular time for uh simracers.
And uh we got a couple specialBlack Friday deals that have
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already dropped.
Uh iracing at the time ofrecording has released uh their
50% off for new customers, 25%off if you want to re-up, and
you can re-up now, and it will,I think it added a year from
whenever you were previouslygoing to expire.
Um uh so here's an interestingstatement, Jason.
(11:57):
Would you rather that or a dealon content when it comes to
iRacing?
Or would you rather 20% offcontent or 25% off content for a
week around Black Friday?
Um because I I know a lot ofpeople on iRacing's Facebook
(12:18):
post when they did when theyposted this that everybody was
like, hey, that's great, butwe'd rather content.
Jason (12:24):
Well, I think that's very personal, right?
Because if you've been in theservice for years like us, then
the subscription is is good isalways good, but you know, I I
don't know that's a tough one,man.
That's very it depends.
If I'm a new iRacer and Ipicked up the biggest discount
(12:47):
last year, then I think thatyeah, I think that accounts that
are just a year old can getthat discount.
That's what I would do.
Jeff (12:56):
I mean, uh tracks, I mean, I think I have the cars that I
want, but I feel like everyweek, every other weekend or so,
every other week I jump inthere and I'm like, man, I only
have like two tracks that thethe the the officials that I
want to race have, you know, andI'm always like, all right,
I'll buy one.
You know, it would be great ifthey did a content and I, you
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know, like you could kind of buya couple and get save a couple
bucks on on top of the for likeyou know, the discount once you
own like 20% of all their shit,they give you the discount.
Jason (13:27):
Which which which you're part of the 40 club now, and
welcome.
Jeff (13:30):
It's one of those that you're not proud of.
Jason (13:33):
You're kind of proud of, but you don't want nobody, but
you don't want nobody to know.
Right.
That's the thing.
Jeff (13:38):
You're like, yes, it's it's that's how you're internal.
Jason (13:40):
Like, yeah, I got that discount.
Like, I'll buy it.
Jeff (13:42):
I get the discount, but then you're like, oh my god, I
have this discount.
Jason (13:45):
That means that I spent money.
I think that I agree, I agreewith tracks that are at least a
year old, discount them.
The new stuff that's coming outright now, at least you know
that's fair.
Because they do have thesethings called legacy, but just
don't bother with those becauseif it's a legacy, that means
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they're not using it in theseason and you won't race it
anyway.
Jeff (14:11):
I don't even update the stuff that says legacy.
No, don't you?
Jason (14:14):
Unless you really, really want to go and race an older
version of a track, and I don'tknow.
That's very subjective.
I think that um, how aboutthis?
I think that in my personalopinion, if you buy the highest
tier, we'll give you an extra15% uh for the next month or for
(14:38):
the next week.
So that way they can lock youinto getting more money.
But then if let's say you likeit in a week uh or you already
tried it before you had anaccount and you're coming back,
then you're like, Yeah, I'mgonna get the discount, and I
need like six or seven tracksbecause the boys are racing this
on X League or whatever, sure.
And and then you can get adiscount that way.
(15:00):
But um, yeah, iRacing is veryfirm with this stuff because and
usually when companies arefirm, it's because things are
good, you know.
That's what I that's what Ibelieve.
Jeff (15:10):
They got a corner of the market, right?
Jason (15:12):
Yeah, yeah, they do, and they know, you know what, it's
exciting because I think we'rein month two.
Um, and one more month we'll belooking at another development
update and another new car andanother new track.
And I can't wait, which is moremoney.
So let's go.
Yeah, this hobby, this hobby,there's no it's no secret, it
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costs money.
It's uh, it's a it's a it'sit's a hell of a gouge.
And we're gonna go over thatgouge here in a second, um, very
soon.
Jeff (15:44):
But yeah, um, just real quick before we as we wrap up
here announcements is uhCineCube did come out with their
Black Friday.
I think it was Jason, help meout here 15 for the the SE2 and
10 for the SC3.
My act, I think give her giveor take a little bit each way.
Jason (16:03):
Um I mean we'll just take a look, guys.
Just go ahead and take a lookbecause it is planned here to do
a full-blown Black Friday sale.
I think Jeff's gonna look thatup.
And while he does that, there'salso one more early uh Black
Friday deal that's going on, andit's with Bavarian Symtec.
(16:25):
Uh, and they are doing notariffs, no import duties for
Black Friday.
So, I mean, that's it, youknow, with the current situation
the way it is, everybody elseis charging duties and and and
tariffs.
So take advantage while you canif you were looking to buy one
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of those.
I don't have an affiliate, butI'm pretty sure Michael from the
Sim Racing does.
Um check out uh Michael, uhexcuse me, check out the
SimracingThen.com and he's gotan affiliate and discounts.
I gotta hook him up because wedon't have one.
And if that fails, then thefail safe is when you add it to
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your cart, just put boosted inthe uh in in in the promo code.
And usually that guy has afreaking yeah, he's got promos.
But I mean, hey, supportsupport track ghost when when
when we do have them, pleasesupport them, support us,
support, you know, the the mainchannel.
(17:31):
Um yeah, but if you if youreally wanted to get you need
it, if you need it right awayand you don't have any other
option, boost it.
That's that's uh give it tosomebody, yeah.
Jeff (17:43):
So I am on the simicube site, and they're saying 25% off
uh the simicube 2 pro, 30% offthe sport.
That's not an insignificantamount of money.
Jason (17:55):
No, it isn't.
Jeff (17:56):
Here's the rub, uh gentlemen, and if we have any
ladies that listen to us, uhthat is for 200 units only.
Now, whether that's true ornot, I don't know.
And they just put that up thereto kind of trickle it out in
front of you to get you to belike, oh shit, I don't want to
lose out on the deal.
Jason (18:11):
Bro, it's like those channels, remember?
Like, call now.
You have to call now becauseyou if you don't call right now,
the freak you'll never get thisdiscount again, and this shit
is on a rerun.
And you call up, and sureenough, I'm like, yeah, we could
do a discount.
I, you know, all I'm saying is,you know, and that's a good
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thing that you mentioned, Jeff,about the semiconductor, because
there's not really the bestpress out there about the three.
I heard, we know, I didn't justhear, but we know that it got
pushed back and some software isnot working correctly, which is
very normal for a new product,you know.
(18:56):
Very, very common for a productwhen when they're new is to
show, you know, it's notnothing's perfect out the box.
So, especially with the newtech that they're using, we'll
keep you posted.
But if you know, in today'smarket, there's nothing wrong
with a simicube too.
And right now, I have no plansto upgrade to a three, you know.
(19:21):
Right now, I'm just hanging onright now.
Um, if Cimicube wants to sendone over, I will gladly check it
out and review it.
Um, but right now I don't see aneed to take that step forward
unless, unless you have nowheelbase, right?
You have no wheelbase andyou're looking into the
(19:43):
semiconductor, then I would tellyou go buy a semicon three,
take the plunge, you know, takethe L now.
Jeff (19:49):
I don't know, dude.
I I mean, go when I move in, Imight need to put like a block
on the firewall fromsimicube.com for the next 30
days.
Jason (19:59):
Oh, because you're thinking about it.
Jeff (20:00):
Yeah, I it's a I it was it blew me away.
I don't say blew me away.
Jason (20:06):
Um But you see, I don't I don't understand.
Like you've been over to thehouse, you've been over to my
house, bro.
Jeff (20:12):
I mean, bro, you get in front of the 40 something inch,
50 inch monitors, the activepedal, you know, it it it's a
lot to take in.
But when you get to spend allweekend, you know, jumping from
rig to rig to rig, you're like,oh, like they're all saving
detail.
Yeah, they're all yeah.
I've been trying to tell you,man.
I've been trying to do that.
I know you have.
I know you have.
(20:32):
I'm slowly starting to listenslowly.
Jason (20:35):
I know I try I try to I try to save people from I try to
tell people to spend more sothat they can save more, but
that's not easy.
Jeff (20:43):
It's hard, it's an initial spend more to save more save
mortal eight or which is it,it's a it's a hard fact to
understand when you're in themoment.
Jason (20:52):
Yeah, but it's okay.
It's okay because I'm happythat you became a sim racer and
you're still here, and you'reactually part of a podcast now
talking about sim racing anddoing research about sim racing.
You know, that you came a longway.
It's kind of you know, it'sit's a little it's crazy how
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things evolved here, but let'slet's let's continue on with the
show here.
I don't want to get emotional,that's another emotional topic.
One more news announcement is Isort of picked up on a ROG Xbox
ally, and and that's how come.
Sort of, yeah.
I was I've been right now.
(21:34):
I'm installing some custom OSon there, and I'll keep you guys
up to date on what I plan to dowith the thing.
But so far, overallimpressions, if you guys were
thinking about a ROG, go get it.
It's freaking it's freakingawesome.
Go get it.
And I came from this guy.
This is my old handheldconsole, which you can see.
Jeff (21:58):
That's the Legion Go.
Jason (21:59):
This is the Legion Go one, and I was gonna get the
Legion Go two, but they want$1,400, bro.
$1,400.
Jeff (22:09):
That's a quality desktop PC.
Jason (22:13):
That's a PC.
I was like, wait a minute, youguys slouch PC.
I don't know what kind of drugsLenovo is on.
I really don't.
I I don't know what kind ofdrugs they're on, but they're on
some some heavy ass drugs forreal.
I mean, I can I understand whatit can do, and I understand
that it's a no-led display, butit's still a handheld display.
(22:34):
You know, it it's a second,it's a secondary.
It's kind of like you use itwhen you travel, you use it when
you're on the couch.
When you have, you know, I Iuse this for bathroom breaks.
I wash it thoroughly.
I start thoroughly sterilized,okay?
Thoroughly sterilized.
Jeff (22:48):
But I my problem with it, what I got one, I got the and
this is we have no plans to talkabout the Legion Go on this on
today's podcast, but here weare.
Uh when I got it from for ourtrip for my trip, and unless
it's plugged in, it's just kindof a slouch, in my opinion.
Jason (23:03):
Oh, it will drain the shit out of the bed.
Jeff (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be plugged in.
Jason (23:07):
So did you return it though?
Jeff (23:09):
It's on Facebook Marketplace, or it will be
momentarily.
Jason (23:12):
Why don't you just return it?
When we get into the nexttopic, you got a 30-day return
window.
No questions asked.
Has it been over 30 days?
Jeff (23:19):
I bought it secondhand.
Jason (23:20):
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, guys, we have a Legion gofor sale.
We might have to do it forsale.
Jeff (23:25):
I'll make you a killer deal on it.
Jason (23:26):
We'll make you a deal of Chicane Podcast deal.
We'll throw in some stickers inthere.
Jeff (23:31):
Put in the Shakane podcast.
We'll tat it up.
We'll be ready to go.
Jason (23:35):
No, it's a great console.
It it really is.
It depends on what kind ofgame.
Like if you're playing, I'massuming you were playing F1 and
it runs.
And it runs, it runs themreally good, you know.
But yeah, you need to be itneeds to be plugged in.
Now the Legion Go has an 80watt hour battery.
This has a 40 watt, so you canget four hours, three and a half
(23:58):
hours on the lead on the newROG.
So, anyways, that's kind of itfor announcements.
Again, 24-hour race happenedalready, so I can't tell you to
go join.
Um, maybe watch the replay ifyou haven't.
Jeff (24:14):
There you go.
Jason (24:15):
I don't know if we crashed or not, but the likes of
it is very high.
It's Monza.
It's Monza, bro.
I can't believe we're about todo Monza.
Jeff (24:24):
I know it's like high speed corner, high speed.
It's only a minute and four.
High speed, 90-degree turn.
Jason (24:30):
Yeah.
And we're gonna over and overand over and over.
Oh god.
Jeff (24:36):
That active pedal is gonna get a workout this weekend.
Jason (24:39):
Yes, and this Porsche wheel is gonna be driven to
hell.
So we're gonna see giddy up.
Giddy up.
So today, um, I have a littlespecial kind of thing.
Jeff (24:52):
What you got today, buddy?
Jason (24:54):
That we kind of just came up with, and it's been recent
events.
The same way this podcast wasinspired.
Jeff does not let up.
He texted me every single day.
What do you think of this?
What do you think of that?
What do you think?
And he's looking at PCs again.
He's looking at PCs, and I'mhe's talking, he's talking big
(25:16):
boy money now.
He's talking, he's he's he'sstepping up.
Jeff (25:18):
I've been saving some pennies.
I've been saving some pennies.
Jason (25:21):
So Jeff wants to buy a rig, and I already know why he
wants to build a more powerfulrig than what he has now because
he's planning on going full VR.
Is that a true statement?
You I with no compromise.
Jeff (25:41):
Yeah, it it's it would be a full, it would be a full up.
I don't think I have raced orflown on monitors month and a
half.
Um I'm honest with you, right?
Um I don't know why.
It just is I I in it it does itfor me.
(26:01):
Um and at this point I feellike I have maxed out the quest
three.
Um and I'm just trying, I I'dlike to have a no compromised.
I've been you know puttingsaving some money every month,
you know, selling a bunch ofshit I don't use.
Yeah, um and get a really nice.
Jason (26:26):
But I can respect that.
I can I can honestly uh fromthe bottom of my heart, I can
respect that.
Because if you tell me youmaxed out the quest three, you
know, that is if you're tryingto build, if you're trying to
max, if you're maxing out thequest three, let me put this
this way, that means you'reready for a next level uh power,
(26:51):
you know, next level power.
If you maxing out that andyou're looking for the next big
boy, uh, you know, right afterthat, then we're gonna need some
horsepower.
Um and Jeff, I mean, I I'm justhappy that Jason, you know, I'm
happy that you you get it, youknow, you understand why you
(27:11):
need this power now.
You know what I mean?
You you fully understand now.
Jeff (27:15):
Yeah, and just to kind of explain to our listeners what I
mean by maxed out, so iRacing issuper optimized for VR.
It works very good.
Um, but I've been racing a lotwith the um uh the cars that we
were just talking about lastepisode with the the pack that
they released.
Jason (27:32):
Oh, content manager, the yeah, the content manager,
right?
Jeff (27:34):
So it's not as optimized.
It's it's it's gonna tax yourPC to push shit through you know
into VR.
Um and also I've been doing alot of flying and DCS, and the
quest is good.
Uh it's incredible for theprice you're paying.
Um, but I can't see the cockpitor the words that are on the
(27:56):
cockpit, especially when on myyou know, multifunctional unless
I have to put my face into it.
Um I just can't get theresolution with what my PC is
willing to you know push to it.
Um I'm just that's what I mean.
And I've messed with all thesettings to try to build, try to
do something with you know,give me a high enough
resolution, lower the you know,the the refresher rate.
(28:18):
I'm just kind of there.
Like and Jason, you gave me agreat advice when I was buying
the PC that I got, and it had itwas fantastic, it has been
fantastic, it's still fantastic.
I didn't think I was gonna beinto or as passionate about sim
racing, and well now I'm youknow, I fly uh I'm 80% racing,
20% flying, but I didn't know Iwas gonna be doing it this much
(28:41):
or as passionate about it.
So I feel like it's justifiedjumping into the deep end here.
Jason (28:47):
No, it is, it is.
I think that there's a certainthreshold with how much can you
really spend blindfolded versusthat's a great great point,
right?
Versus hey, I'm using this andI'm finding limits.
Because and and and that'sthat's the thing with this
hobby, is or or hobbies ingeneral.
(29:09):
When you find limits, then youstart looking for what can I do
to increase the performance,right?
And the first thing youmentioned to me was, well, I can
upgrade my RAM.
I want to upgrade my RAM, Iwant to upgrade my storage.
And I was alright, all right,that's already times two plus a
video card, you know.
(29:31):
So, you know, PCs have a greatresale value these days.
That's not usually what it wasin the past, but now the PC
gamer, because yes, we drivesimulators, but we are gamers.
That is the that's the truth.
The truth of it is you'rebuying gaming hardware to play
(29:53):
simulators, but it's still itstarts with the word game with
it.
So it does, you know, somebodywill buy your PC.
And they'll play Fortnite on itor Modern War or Battlefield 6,
which I love playing someBattlefield, bro.
But I'm stressed out and I wantto shoot some people in
Battlefield 6, bro, with asniper rifle.
Jeff (30:13):
I'm on there.
Jason (30:14):
I need to get you a don't make me show you that, bro,
because that's a that's asinkhole, bro.
That is you will drown.
You'll be like, what?
I wasn't a Call of Duty guy fora while.
No, this thing got helicopters,it's got jets.
It's dope.
Um, it's got tanks.
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Chicane12 in all caps for a 12%discount.
Well, what we're gonna do todayis I I guess Jeff had some
ideas, suggestions, or uh he hadshared with me a build.
And I don't know if you havethe link to that ready, Jeff, if
(31:21):
you can get it that.
I do have it.
Uh, the one from uh what wasit, Micro Center.
And we're just gonna go throughthe specs and I'm gonna give
you my thoughts on this.
Jeff (31:32):
All right.
Jason (31:33):
Let's I will share and I'm gonna show you guys a simple
way of looking at a spec sheetand giving you a broad idea.
Is this a good build for theprice?
Jeff (31:45):
You know, Jason, this is the one I sent you just the
other day.
Jason (31:48):
Okay, let's take a look.
Jeff (31:50):
Coming right up.
Jason (31:53):
And we're not trying to make them spend.
I am not.
I'm just here to buy.
Jeff (31:58):
No, uh, and this is a two dump trucks fulls full of cash
for a computer, but okay, so youget what you pay for in this
world.
So go ahead and we'll starthere.
Jason (32:09):
So AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D.
I have a 9800 X3D.
Um, six months ago, the 9800X3D was the fastest, the most
powerful uh CPU you can buy foranything for gaming, especially
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sim racing, especially iRacing,because of that 3D at the end.
That 3D at the end means thatit has an extra core
specifically meant for forgaming.
You know, if you buy if youlook at a video car today, you
have two options.
You have Intel, you have AMD.
Intel used to be the big dogback in the early 2000s, right?
(32:55):
With their i7 and whatever itwhatever it is that they had,
um, or i5.
Nowadays, AMD is kind of takingover, and these chips get run
hard, they can run hot and theydon't die.
They don't, they don't give up,you know.
To make one of these thingsthrottle, good luck.
You it just won't happen.
(33:16):
So the 9950X, right, is easilya $500 processor.
Okay, so now the next thingabove below that is an MSI Mag
870E Tomahawk, which is exactlythe same motherboard that I have
in my PC.
And the reason why I went withthat motherboard and I recommend
(33:38):
it is it's not because it has16 ports, it could have had five
or six ports.
It's because of the bandwidth,the total bandwidth of those
ports, right?
It had I I tell you by memory,it has two USB C 40 gig ports,
40 gigs, two of them.
(33:59):
Then it has like five 3.0ports, and then has three 4.0
ports, uh, 3.2, I believe, ifI'm not mistaken.
Yeah, 3.2.
And that right there is a crapton of bandwidth.
And what does that mean when Isay bandwidth?
It means that if I plug in anextension on that, it'll be able
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to handle all that data beingprocessed through one port, you
know, you know, versus pluggingit into a 1.0 port or a 2.0
port.
And none of those lanes areshared, so data lanes aren't
shared.
It has four SSD slots, and twoof them don't share lanes.
And what does that mean?
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That means that when you if youinstall two SSDs in, you'll get
max speeds out of them.
If you install a third one,then you gotta choose.
You can downgrade your USB-Cspeed to give the SSD more
speed, or you can tell the themotherboard to say no, leave the
(35:05):
two ports at high speed andjust downgrade that as that
third SSD speed, which in thisday and age, I don't know who is
using more than two SSDs.
I've always recommended two.
I always I always recommend onefor the OS and one for your
games.
Jeff (35:25):
And Jason, this is kind of what a what's I mean, you know
where I'm going with this, butuh, this is what's kind of drive
me to the new another PC is youknow, I DCS is like huge, huge,
like hundred, hundred gigs ofuh of of data files for one map.
Um, you know, so I ran out ofspace on my you know one
(35:49):
terabyte that I have in the PCbehind me.
So I was like, oh, I needanother you know hard drive in
there, and then I'm you know,I'm sharing with you know all
the you know this other you knowports, and it was like you
know, not ideal.
Um it started made that's whenit was like, and then you know,
DCS says, hey, you should bereally running 64 gigs of RAM.
It's like okay, let me look tosee how much RAM is, and it just
(36:12):
is like, dang, like I'm gonnadrop this money to upgrade my
PC, and then you start lookingotherwise, Jason.
Back to you.
This is what kind of led me toleading to looking at a new PC.
Jason (36:21):
Yeah, so I mean, can you upgrade your current build?
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
The thing is if we're aimingfor using a Pimax or using a big
screen beyond at full maxsettings, then you're gonna need
(36:42):
a processor.
So I already I'm alreadysumming up the cost here between
the processor and thatmotherboard, that's eight
hundred dollars just for thosetwo.
Then he added 64 gigs of RAM ofDDR5 at 6,000.
Um, I wish they would tell mewhich one, but uh let me see if
(37:04):
I can drop down here and I don'tknow if it says here and say it
there?
Jeff (37:08):
No.
Jason (37:12):
No worries.
We'll anyways.
Wait, wait, go.
But easily go go go down to thespecs real quick.
Just right here.
Does it say uh model memory?
Jeff (37:26):
No, it doesn't say CPU okay.
Jason (37:30):
Scroll up.
Jeff (37:31):
But it's easily we're looking at 250.
Jason (37:35):
Just about more than that, actually.
Jeff (37:38):
At a minimum.
Jason (37:38):
Yeah.
So now we're looking at athousand dollars, right?
An NVIDIA gforce RTX 5090.
There's nothing that is the topdoll, there's nothing better
than this card right now, andthat is 2500.
So now we're looking at $3,500,and then things start to come
(38:01):
down from that from that high,right?
So you look at the uh Samsung2TB, which I'm assuming is a 990
Pro.
I hope it is.
That those two terabytes go forabout 150, and then this LAN
Wi-Fi, that's just part of themotherboard and Windows.
All right, so I mean, this isjust an example build on how to
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decipher prices.
Can you get it cheaper?
Yes, in a in a sense, right?
The thing is, who out there iscarrying a 5090?
Who out there is carrying a9950X, and who out there is
building it for you?
That's that's where the littleprice bump comes in.
(38:48):
Now, if it was it was that ifit was at regular price, then I
would uh I would assume.
Um and I was just thinkingabout this.
Jeff, you better get on this,bro, before somebody, one of our
listeners watches this.
So that's a fair point.
I got to buy now.
Jeff (39:04):
So I know I had to like hide where it was.
Um and I I did a lot ofresearch on places that had, you
know, I'm getting smarter onyou know, PCs and stuff, and you
know, my this is what my life'scome to as you know, an older
dude is watching people putbadass PC builds together on
(39:25):
YouTube.
I'm not there yet, so whetherI'm gonna buy components myself
and do a build.
So like the pre- the pre-builtstuff or pick pick them out and
somebody else puts it togetheris my game.
I did a lot of research, andthere's nothing that's touching
this price within $500, youknow, for a $50.90 and the the
(39:45):
motherboard with thatmotherboard, it's not even
remotely close to you know to tothat price.
Jason (39:50):
So um the motherboard processor, bro, and the card is
basically three thousand dollarsor more.
It's actually more than that,it's like $3,500 just with those
three components.
Jeff (40:03):
So um, I mean, this is don't have to worry about any
hardware problems forever.
I say forever.
Jason (40:11):
This is a while, you know.
Hopefully.
I mean, uh, PC parts are builtreally good these days, but um,
you know, nothing's perfect.
But I'll tell you what, I canvouch for everything that you're
buying here.
Uh AM5 is still the platform,and AMD came out and said that
(40:33):
they will support the AM5platform through 2027.
So it is not unwise to buy a PCnowadays.
You know, if we're reaching thelife, you know, the end of the
AM5 life, which is AM5 isbasically the slot where your
chip goes.
(40:54):
And that's what happened to me.
I was forced into getting AM5because my old build was an AM4,
and that means that anythingabove a 7,000 was not happening,
even if you bought it, it justwasn't compatible.
So, um, at this price range,you know, you can get a decent
(41:15):
chunk of change for your currentsetup, so you won't be paying
what we're seeing here.
You know what I mean?
I would say somewhere along thelines of half of what this
number says.
Jeff (41:26):
Yeah, I think that's probably fairly close.
Um, and you know, I did buy ahard drive to throw, you know,
in my builds that I have herethat I haven't installed yet.
So I mean, I'll take this andthrow it in, you know, the new
one.
Jason (41:40):
And yeah, you can keep this four TVs.
Yeah, you can keep this uh 2TB,leave it as a system main, and
then have all your games on that990 Pro.
It'll even off the load.
And if something happens toWindows where you need to
reinstall, all your games are ina second drive.
(42:01):
You know, it's it's a beautifulthing.
It's a beautiful thing.
I've always told people avoidgetting the big one for a
terabyte and get two twoterabytes, or or if you know,
depending on your budget, or ortwo one terabytes, you know,
because again, it nothing'sperfect and windows sometimes
(42:23):
craps out.
And the last thing you want isnot having a place where you can
back it up.
I mean, you can always you canalways buy one of these.
I have these laying aroundeverywhere, these little Samsung
drives.
But again, this is an SSD.
And if you didn't know, SSDdon't have mobile parts.
And when SSDs stay unpluggedfor some time, they tend to lose
(42:48):
data.
Wow, that's anotherconversation, but something
that's hardwired.
Yeah, go ahead.
Jeff (42:55):
I got a question for you here since we're talking about
this stuff.
So a lot of problems whenyou're running all these
monitors is you run out of umdisplay ports for so right now I
have obviously force monitors.
I think my top one is hooked upto an HDMI, so I do have maybe
one eight one uh display portopen.
(43:16):
Um you don't, you have nodisplay port open.
Jason (43:21):
You have you're using all three, and then you're using
that HDMI on the top.
Jeff (43:27):
Yeah, I guess that's true.
So my I guess it it it's stillmy still question is valid is
you want to plug if you get thePyMAX has a display port input.
Do you want to plug that intothe graphics card, or does it
matter putting it into the noyou want it inside the graphics
card because because if you useonboard, you're not using a 5090
(43:49):
no more to power that graphicscard.
Jason (43:52):
Okay, you and never ever ever ever ever use the onboard
graphics.
Why, why?
I I I know somebody, the topshata being called out on the
shade podcast, has all sorts ofproblems with his PC, and I've
been I've been been a I've beena tech for him, just low-key,
(44:15):
and he's gonna have a crack whenhe sees this.
But I told him, dude, why areyou using onboard memory, uh,
onboard video graphics when youshouldn't?
It it's not efficient, youknow, it's just not good.
It's extra load on the machinefor no reason, you know.
Put all the load onto yourvideo card, it can handle it.
(44:39):
It's uh it's a modern graphicscard.
I wish we had more ports, man.
I wish we had three of each,you know, because if I can get
three HDMIs, then I can useVSync and VR and all those
beautiful things.
But these monitors right now,they're running out of pure
power.
And I haven't had an issuebecause I have a 4090.
(45:01):
You're shopping for a 5090 thathas 32 gigs of video RAM.
That is a massive thing, bro.
Your 5090 is gonna run circlesaround my card, and it's gonna
do that for years.
You know what I mean?
It's gonna be good.
That is it's overpoweredalready for what it is.
You know what I mean?
(45:22):
So having something overpoweredat a decent price, I mean, the
card retail is two grand on thestreet.
It sometimes is two 25 andthree grand.
So when it first came out,there were like three or four
grand.
Jeff (45:38):
Um, I think you're hard hard pressed finding them for
anything remotely close to like26.
Jason (45:43):
So a lot of people thought I was crazy, right?
Like, why would you spend somuch money on a video card?
If I was to sell my video cardtoday, used, I can get like
three thousand dollars for it.
Jeff (45:55):
Yeah, more than you bought it for.
Jason (45:57):
Because it's a founders edition.
Jeff (45:59):
That's why that's okay.
Jason (46:00):
That's what I want to know.
I want to I want to doublecheck to make sure that if bro,
that's what I told you.
Remember, I was like, if it's afounders, bro.
If this is a founders, you needto drop everything and just
take the take the licking now.
It'll heal.
Licking beatings heal, bro, butyou'll laugh later.
(46:20):
It's like, yo, yeah, I got a5090.
The 6090 comes out.
The the way things are going,bro.
6090 when it comes out, it'sgonna be massively, massive
overpriced.
It's gonna be the same cycle.
Six thousand dollars.
Yeah.
And people will do anything for4090 or 5090 in that case, and
(46:42):
you'll end up in the market.
You know, I thought aboutputting up mine for sale and
just copying one from StockX.
I found the two of I have it inmy cart ready to buy.
Um, I'm gonna see.
I'm gonna put mine up for sale.
And if you notice that I miss alive stream one week, you know
what's going down.
And I made, you know, youbasically make a profit.
(47:06):
So that's a tip out there foryou guys.
Um, you know, um it's kind oflike investing.
You invest in your own hobby, Iguess.
So PC building is good for you.
It's good for it, and what ifyou start what if you want to
start streaming, bro?
You got a 50-90.
You you'll be good to go.
(47:28):
You'll be able to stream yourflights, racing, whatever it is
you want to do.
You have you have a microphoneattached up there, you're good
to go, bro.
All you need is a camera.
Uh, and I got an extra camera,just let me know.
You have it.
Jeff (47:41):
I got one floating around here.
I got the some Elgato runningaround.
Jason (47:44):
There you go.
You got the Elgato.
I got another one of those.
Jeff (47:47):
So I got two of them.
Because I just have so muchfree time.
So that's my lip, that's mybiggest problem is time.
Jason (47:55):
Oh, you got some free time coming your way.
Jeff (47:57):
I do, you're right.
Jason (47:58):
You're absolutely which is dangerous, bro, because
that's when that's when you goon when you should be sleeping.
The root of all evil.
And all you see in Jeff'sbedroom is a tiny little light
from his phone.
Like, and it's white.
Jeff (48:15):
N DXT.
Yeah.
Jason (48:18):
And the cart.
And then you sleep on it, andyou're like, shit, should I do
this?
Jeff (48:22):
Yeah, I mean, dude, I've done a couple more of these, and
and I'll be, you know, swipingthat card.
Jason (48:29):
You be laying it on, uh laying it on thick, bro.
I've done some crazy shit andjust straight up, I got the
phone like this.
I'm gonna pretend like this ismy phone.
And I got the button, I got myfinger on the button, and I use
my other hand, and I just golike that to it.
And I'm like, I didn't do it.
Jeff (48:47):
I didn't do it.
I swear to god, I do that allthe time.
What's the line we do?
They gave it to me.
They gave it to me, bro.
They gave it to me, they gaveit to me.
Jason (48:58):
But I mean, so not really a PC guide, but more of how to
read these deals, right?
And Black Friday's coming up,so it's a good time.
I I think Micro Center, uhthat's almost at cost PC right
there, like MSRP.
(49:18):
It's really hard to beat that.
I don't know how, I don't know,I don't know who they're
talking to, who they're friendswith, but that's gonna cover our
little section today forhelping Jeff out.
And um, I just wanted toinclude you guys on the show to
use so you could see how ourconversations happen off camera.
I think it's kind of cool.
(49:38):
And a lot of you people gothrough the same thing.
A lot of listeners on thestream, I get this question all
the time is should I get thisgraphics card?
Should I get that graphicscard?
And I'm like, get the bestgraphics card that you can
afford, you know, get the bestone that you can afford.
And if you can't afford ittoday, people need to understand
(49:59):
that if you can't affordsomething today, it's not gonna
go anywhere, it's not gonna sellout.
And this hobby, people need tojust hold on, you know what I
mean?
People need to save a little,be patient, and then you can buy
the stuff.
You know, I had a question,it's funny.
I had a question the other day.
He was like, What's your mostfavorite part of the what's your
(50:21):
favorite gear on the rig?
And you know, the belltensioner is awesome, and every
we love it, we both love it, butit isn't my favorite.
My favorite is the activepedal.
And then I said I mentioned,yes, the active pedal, the
active pedal.
And this guy said, Well,mention something that's
attainable.
And I'm like, everything isattainable, you just have to be,
(50:43):
you just have to budget for it.
If, you know, we're not madeout of money, dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Jeff (50:50):
You know, and there's yeah, to your point, Jason, like
the conversations you and Ihave had about PCs and me
upgrading has this isn'tsomething that happened
yesterday.
We've been having thisconversation for you know some
some some time now.
Yeah, you know, and you werelike, hey, because I was looking
at the 5070, 5080, 5080s, youknow, and we had some
(51:12):
discussions, and I was like, ah,you're right.
Like, I'd hate to buy the Pimaxsuper one of them, and then be
like, every time I put it on,I'd be like, I just waited and
you know, saved a little bitlonger and got the better, what
would it look like?
You know, you know, and if youcompare apples to apples, it's
yeah, not everybody's a case islike that, right?
(51:33):
Everybody, everybody's case iscorrect is different.
Um, but for me, I was like,okay, fair.
You know, I can wait a littlebit.
You know, November's comingwith blacks, maybe you know,
maybe I can catch some sales.
Um time it worked out for me, Iguess.
You know, so yeah, but yeah, Iacknowledge that everybody's not
in the same situation.
Jason (51:50):
No, and honestly, most of us aren't.
I mean, to drop four grand on aPC today, uh one go, one shot,
is a lot of money.
You know, it's the sameargument with motion.
People want motion and they saythey can't afford motion.
I think that if you really wantsomething, I don't care if it
(52:11):
takes you two years, bro,because guess what?
In two years, there'll besomething significantly better
at around the same price anyway.
You know what I mean?
Nothing says that you have torun out and buy this thing right
now because if you don't, it'sit's gonna be the end of the
world.
If you saved up in two years'time and you have the cash and
(52:32):
you have the money, I I canpromise you there's something a
hundred times, or not a hundredtimes, but like three or four
times better.
Jeff (52:39):
Get your point, yeah.
Jason (52:40):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Like, for example, let's sayyou started saving up, you know,
for a Semicube 2 Pro and yousaved up for two years, and you
finally have that 1300 andsomething, whatever it's called,
1400.
The three just got announced,and you already have 1400.
So now you're closer to gettingthe three vice getting the two.
(53:00):
You know what I'm trying tosay?
It's just people need tounderstand that things don't
need to be at the moment, rightthis moment.
You know what I mean?
Um, especially for those thathave a rig like you.
You have a PC, your PC works.
You can race on it, you can flyon it.
This is more about doing more,right?
And and seeking more immersion.
(53:23):
But do you do you honestly, isit gonna stop you from flying
today?
No, it won't.
You know what I mean?
And that's that's I'll probablyget in there.
Jeff (53:32):
I got the you know, my stick and the stick, so to
speak, uh installed now and thewheels off.
So I'll probably jump in theretonight and fly a sword or two.
Jason (53:41):
Right.
And there you go.
You know, you're still it'sit's not stopping you from the
only time I tell you guys, hey,jump on this deal, is to get you
to to race or to get you intothe hobby, to get you started,
which is why we always cover uhbudget gear.
But once you reach a certainpoint where you're looking for
(54:01):
more, then that's when we haveto, then that's when we have
conversations such as this, andwe take a look and see what's
out there, and we look at well,what's the support, what's the
life, what is the future, what'sthe future holding, you know,
and I think it's I'm excited foryou.
You know, I if if you boughtthis thing, if you legitimately
(54:24):
bought this thing, I would beecstatic.
I would be ecstatic, but that'sgonna be I'm kind of rambling,
I'm kind of just going off.
Uh you know, uh it was a funepisode.
I mean, I I love these kind ofapps, I love these kinds of
episodes because they are realtalk, you know, and a lot of
(54:46):
people, a lot of people on theinternet like to they'll buy a
5090 and post a picture with the5090, and it it might make some
people feel bad.
And I don't want you to feelbad.
You know, if you can't affordit at the moment, don't feel
bad.
You start saving up, you take$20, $30 at every paycheck, put
it away, don't touch it.
Jeff (55:07):
I mean, I I'm not a shit, like I've been putting stuff on
Facebook Marketplace, shit.
I don't, you know, it helpswe're moving, right?
But uh, you know, just I don'tuse this, get rid of it, you
know, put it on and it I I havelike a little envelope ups, you
know, that I throw the cash in,and it kind of, you know, adds
up eventually.
So that's kind of, and this isnot a yesterday discussion.
(55:29):
This has been, you know,marinating for a while.
So it's to your point, Jason.
It's just kind of cool to giveour listeners a little bit
behind the scenes into, youknow, I guess our discussions
that we have, you know, via textabout upgrades and you know,
whatever things that we'rethinking about adding to our
rig.
Jason (55:45):
Right, because it's it's important.
It's important.
I mean, we've had we've hadmore content planned for today,
but I do not want to give youthe blindfolded advice that you
will find on the internet.
And that is if you want the ifyou want the frames or the
performance, then you need tobuy this.
(56:06):
That is easy.
I can I this conversation wouldhave been over 20 minutes ago.
I just want to let you guysknow that you're not alone when
it comes to looking at thesethings and seeing how expensive
they are, because they'reexpensive to me, they're
expensive to Jeff, they'reexpensive to everybody.
This is a lot of money we'retalking about.
(56:27):
Um, and it's a lot of moneybeing shown in front of you for
the serious, for someone that'sreally serious about what they
want to do and they have theirgoals set.
You know what I mean?
For those of you that arestarting, you don't really have
that drive yet, right?
Because you need to get goingfirst.
(56:48):
For then for you to understand,yeah, I really do need a four a
5090.
Because right now, if thesimulator that you're running is
iracing, you do not need a5090.
You you don't need it.
You don't even need a 4090.
My 4090 is because of my case,my use case.
(57:09):
I dual stream, I stream toTwitch, YouTube at the same
time.
I don't want to turn down thegraphics.
Jeff (57:14):
And no, I don't you use a set of CARSA, you do the truck
simple.
You know, there's all theseother things that aren't as
optimized too.
You know, there's a reason, notjust iRacing, that you use it
too.
So right 100%.
Jason (57:25):
Yeah, iRacing is CPU bound anyway.
It's heavy on the CPU.
If anything, I'll tell youupgrade that CPU before you
upgrade your GPU.
Um, if your motherboard cantake it.
But for you, for flying, uh,yeah, for flying in VR in a 4K,
8K capable micro OLED lens thatyou want to turn it up to Ultra,
(57:47):
that's gonna take some serioushorsepower for what you're
looking for.
And you're gonna install it,you're gonna love it.
So I'm excited.
Jeff (57:57):
Yeah, it's when I got into this, I never thought I would
be using the rig as much as Ido.
It's a way that you know, wekind of talk about this every
now and again, is it's a waythat I kind of blow off steam
after my family goes to bed.
Um, I get there and race or youknow, fly a sortie or whatever.
Um yeah, I use it way more thanI thought it would when I first
(58:18):
bought it.
So it's kind of like, yeah, toyour point, like kind of max it
out looking to okay, I'm notyour you know, average user now.
I really want to jump into theexactly exactly next level of
immersion, you know, visual.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Jason (58:35):
I think we've we we we're you know you're buying the
hardware filing on here, butyou're using the hardware that
makes sense.
You're buying the stuff becausethere's things that you can't
do on and you want to do them,and this is the way to do them,
and you're spending a littlemore to future proof that that
that that that thirst forimmersion and to use the
(58:58):
hardware that you want to buy.
And I think that's the smartestthing.
It it's really smart.
It's I mean, it's smart becauseif you bought a 5080 and saved
some money, we're looking at away sooner cycle, right?
For upgrades.
You know, if you bought a 5090,that's gonna, it's gonna hold
(59:18):
its value, you know.
Even if you decide that youwant a 6090, you could turn
around, sell that, and make somemoney.
You know what I mean?
I promise you, it happens everyyeah, happens every year.
It's like buying a Ferrari.
You know, a lot of these richguys buy Ferraris, and we're
looking like, damn, how the fuckyou why would you spend that
much money on a car?
(59:39):
But then it's really aninvestment.
Another, another one, and myand my dad can attest to this.
He has like four Rolex watches.
And when you buy a Rolex watchand you're able to attain a
Rolex watch, you sell that onthe street, they go for way more
money.
And he's like, Yeah, this ismoney.
(59:59):
I wear this today.
I go and do my thing, and aftera few months, I'm like, yeah,
clean it up and polish it up andput it up for sale.
He makes money.
He gets another one.
You know, it's kind of likethat.
Ferraris are like that too.
It's like a club gentleman'sthing.
I still haven't seen a Rolexfor you know sent over to Hawaii
yet, but I mean, hook it up.
(01:00:23):
Come on, man.
Come on.
One.
Jeff (01:00:26):
Pop's a good dude.
I had the pleasure of meetinghim.
He's got a hell of a story.
Jason (01:00:30):
He does.
He's got a hell of a story.
And uh he's been through a lot.
So watches make him happy.
You know, some people, somepeople have their thing.
Some people like golf, youknow, and golf is a another
death trap of a money spendingmachine, bro.
You know, it is.
I'm looking at Tailor Maids, ornot the the new titleist clubs.
Jeff (01:00:54):
I know it's they're beautiful, man.
I play titleist older club,older older titleists but I
played.
Jason (01:00:59):
Oh, you play titleist.
I play uh PXGs right now.
Jeff (01:01:02):
Okay, all right.
All right, we'll have to getout there and play.
I mean, like we live so faraway, we should be playing golf
more.
Jason (01:01:07):
I know.
I suck right now.
Jeff (01:01:10):
Work gets in the way I'll look good while I do it, I
promise you.
Jason (01:01:14):
I'll bring the music and drinks and cigars.
Yeah, what's up?
Jeff (01:01:17):
Yeah, I um before we you know pull chocks and uh pop
smoke and turn this episode, um,close it out.
I do want to um address one ofour emails here, Jason.
Jason (01:01:29):
If you're ready to kind of yeah, man, we got an email.
Um and it uh yeah, somebody isuh about to school.
We're about to get schooled.
Jeff (01:01:39):
Yeah, so one of our OG listeners, Drew Funk, uh Drew,
dude, it was awesome hanging outwith you at the expo.
Um, you know, just justchatting and kind of just
hanging out and learn a littlebit about each other and uh just
BS with everybody.
Anyways, to the email.
Hey, Jason and Jeff, I justwanted to give you a heads up
that there is an app for Imza,and I think most of the races
(01:02:00):
are streamed on Peacock.
There is also an app for WECand RCO GT World Challenge.
I'm about a year into watchingGT Racing, but Imza and SRO GT
World Challenge are decentlyaccessible.
As always, keep up the goodwork.
Love the show.
Appreciate it, Drew.
You're a good dude, man.
Appreciate it.
Um, yeah, so I've heard I a lotof people had commented that
(01:02:22):
Peacock gives you the ability towatch that stuff.
I don't know if I can'tremember if I have Peacock or
not.
Jason (01:02:29):
I think they think you got Paramount, right?
Jeff (01:02:32):
I have Paramount, yeah.
Um, Peacock because they hadSupercross.
I was I did a lot of motocrossa couple years ago.
Yeah, and uh so I watchedSupercross.
I don't know if I have itanymore, so I might have to.
I I mean I'm about to dropYouTube TV because they dropped
ESPN, and you can't watchfootball without ESPN.
Jason (01:02:50):
And they're expensive.
See ya, and the World Series isover, so yeah, aha, lose it.
See ya, yeah.
Jeff (01:02:57):
It's just people greedy.
Drew, I'm gonna download thatapp here tonight and I'll give
it a go.
Not that you know Ims is racingright now, I think their
season's ended.
So, but uh, I'm gonna be readyto go.
I'm full in for when this thingkicks off again because it
should be fairly close tohopefully after F1 season ends.
I think we only have four moreraces for F1.
So um hopefully, Jason, thiswill fill in the gap, you know,
(01:03:19):
that we're always bitching ateach other, that they're making
so much money, but they'retaking all this time off.
Jason (01:03:24):
So it'll give us a chance to start fresh, right?
With something new.
And um, I'm interested too,man.
And I you always need a buddy.
That's what I think about withmotorsports.
You need a buddy, and you needthat buddy to be a fan of
somebody that you don't like.
Because that's healthy, man.
The the shit talking mustcontinue, and it's good, it's
(01:03:48):
healthy because then we go watchthe race, we're excited, and
when your guy wins, you can rubit in their face and send them a
meme or two because the memesare out there, bro, to get into
the general text message issalty sometimes when F1 happens.
Jeff (01:04:02):
When when so oh it's not lately, not lately, man, but
George's has been doing reallygood lately.
He's had a consistent littlerun here, so he's battling for
what third for points.
Jason (01:04:13):
So I'm sure Hamilton is regretting uh Ferrari was the
worst mistake.
Yeah.
Jeff (01:04:22):
I haven't forgot about the fact that we did the pre-race
guesses uh when we you said,hey, who do you think's gonna
score more points if they'reso-and-so and so-and-so?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will get I am tracking allthat stuff.
I know the episode happened.
We will give you an update inlike three, four more races at
time of less listening.
This, and so we'll see how ourguesses were.
Jason (01:04:42):
Okay.
Well, thank you, Jeff.
I appreciate everything.
I hope you guys enjoy this one.
This one's more of a thisepisode was more of a real talk
when building a PC, which isprobably gonna be some title
that I come up with.
But um, I think it's importantto have a discussion about
shopping for things, um,especially the main brains,
(01:05:06):
which is the PC right beforeBlack Friday.
But we are um we're gatheringinformation on we're trying to
time it right with when thedeals will drop, which I'm gonna
compare what happened last yearand see if I can get you guys
an episode to kind of keep youguys up to date with all the
(01:05:26):
sales that are happening.
But it seems like right nowit's kind of like people are
just waiting to just jump thegun and say, our Black Friday
deals are live.
You can go and shop right now.
It's like they're not waitingfor a single day.
So we'll do the best we canhere to keep you guys up to
date.
Jeff (01:05:43):
So Facebook groups are like chomping at the bit,
waiting.
Jason (01:05:47):
That that would be the best advice is to join the the
Sim Racing setups, uh Michael'sgroup on Facebook.
There's a hundred and thirtythousand people in there that
are enthusiastic, and they'regonna post something there if
you need if you need informationthe minute.
Um on my live streams, I'll tryto announce whatever I know at
(01:06:09):
the time.
And yeah, that's that's as muchas we can do.
Um, or if I see somethingextraordinary, then I'll just do
a YouTube post maybe or orInsta.
But that's gonna be it for thisweek.
Um thank you, Ju Funk, for theconsecutive email.
I appreciate those, man.
The follow-ups.
I appreciate you taking thetime to write that.
(01:06:31):
Uh Jeff, thank you so much foryour time today, brother.
We had some, you know, it's uhwe have some technicalities
here, and it's all good in thehood.
Uh, but is there anything elseyou would like to say or cover
before we go?
Jeff (01:06:46):
No, that's about it.
Other than, you know, thenormal team, all the listeners,
drive fast and break late,fellas, and any ladies that
listen.
Jason (01:06:54):
So we need to find a new one for you too.
Like uh fly high.
Yeah.
Jeff (01:07:00):
Fair enough.
Jason (01:07:01):
Yeah.
After burner or something.
Jeff (01:07:03):
I'll have to think of something.
Yeah.
Jason (01:07:04):
I'll have to think of something.
With the flights.
You know, I would love to see alive stream putting you on
this.
Jeff (01:07:11):
It's hard.
What do you mean it's hard tolive stream?
Oh, I'm talking about notembarrassing yourself on live
stream.
Jason (01:07:18):
I mean no, that's good press.
Jeff (01:07:21):
Yeah.
There's no such thing as badpress.
Jason (01:07:26):
Exactly.
There's no such thing as badpress, bro.
So, with that, guys, thank youso much.
Um, yeah, I appreciate you,Jeff, and to all you viewers and
listeners out there, have agreat start of your week.
Thank you.
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