September 22, 2025 • 57 mins
What separates elite sim racers from the rest of us? In this revealing conversation with Jared Bridwell, a 4K iRating driver from Impact SimSport, we uncover the journey, mindset, and techniques behind high-level sim racing performance.
Jared walks us through his evolution from playing Forza with a controller in 2017 to competing in elite iRacing leagues today. Unlike many who jumped into sim racing during the pandemic, Jared's organic path through Assetto Corsa and into iRacing showcases the dedication that preceded his current success. His hardware journey—from a Thrustmaster T300 bolted to a wooden platform to his current aluminum rig with Simucube direct drive and Asetek Invicta pedals—mirrors the progression many aspiring racers follow.
Most valuable are Jared's insights on technique and improvement. Rather than focusing on late braking, he emphasizes mastering corner exits first and maintaining consistent mid-corner speeds. "Don't push the car into the corner because it's going to overheat," he advises, revealing the counterintuitive approach that helped him climb to 4K iRating. His emphasis on self-honesty and data analysis cuts through the excuses that hold many racers back.
Beyond driving, Jared represents the engineering side of sim racing, designing and 3D-printing custom steering wheels based on Picorny Engineering designs, with plans to develop button boxes and display units. This DIY spirit exemplifies how sim racing bridges various skills—from driving technique to engineering and fabrication.
Whether you're struggling to break 2K iRating or pushing for elite status, Jared's practical advice on hardware investments (pedals before wheels!), racing mentality, and community engagement provides a roadmap for improvement. Listen now to gain insights from someone who's made the journey from casual gamer to elite sim racer through dedication, skill, and a constant pursuit of improvement.
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Jason (00:34):
This episode is brought to you by Trophyai.
We discuss all things in thesim racing world.
I'm your host, jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Jeff
Smart and Jared Ridwell, adriver from Impact SimSport.
How's everyone doing today?
Jeff (00:50):
Dude.
Jason (00:50):
Good how you doing Awesome fellas.
Jeff (00:52):
Great seeing you, jared.
Welcome to the studio, jason.
Good seeing you buddy, ready toknock this discussion out.
We've got some good stuff todayto talk about.
Jason (01:01):
Hell yeah.
So we met Jared at at the atthe sim gaming expo, and we saw
the skills this man's puttingout, so I figured it'd be a nice
idea to have him on the showand and he obviously felt the
same way.
So, uh, a huge warm welcome toto jared here.
Uh, let me know how you'redoing this week, man.
(01:22):
How's it's it going?
Jared (01:24):
Yeah, first of all, thank you guys for having me on this
week.
I've just been prepping forEvra, so I've just been in the
rig any free time.
I have just got out, stillmaybe a little sweaty, but yeah,
it's been good.
Jason (01:38):
Okay.
Jeff (01:39):
That's.
You know there was a funny.
I just want to bring it upbecause it was worthwhile.
We were talking a little bitbefore we went on air and Jared
was like, yeah, sorry, I don'thave, you know, these nice cool
backgrounds.
You know, like you do, andwe're like this, this is all for
show.
And then we're like I wouldhappily trade this background
for the skills for your, some ofyour skills.
So the skills, bro, no no funnyman, this is all flash.
(02:01):
This is all flash, no skill.
Jason (02:04):
Yeah, it's kind of like golf, right?
You know, you have this golferthat has this used set of golf
clubs and they're all rusted up,and you have this expensive,
shiny, freaking, $700 driver andyou can barely break 100.
Yeah, and here comes this guy.
Boom.
You're like damn man, what am Idoing?
(02:25):
I?
Jeff (02:25):
like to say, though I might not be the fastest, but I
have the most fun.
Jason (02:29):
Yeah, we've always said that, Yep, that's gospel, right
there, gospel.
So I will say this guys, beforewe move any further Welcome,
jared to the show.
Mr Eric Kelly unfortunatelycould not make this one, so we
will see him hopefully in thenext episode.
Um, and with that, uh, we willget in right into it, man.
(02:50):
So, jared, welcome again.
Tell us about your journey intosim racing, man.
How did you find it?
You know, what was your firstrig and what did you start with
and how did?
How did?
How did things?
You know, how did things morphover time?
You know, give us a timeline ofhistory there so it all started
, I think, like 2017.
Jared (03:11):
Um, I was playing forza with a controller, as most
people you know, kind of getinto it.
Um, and then somehow, jimmybroadband came up on my youtube
feed.
I kept watching his nervergreenlaps with on a set of corsa.
I was like, oh, I have, he'sgot a wheel and everything you
can get that it has forcefeedback.
So I had to.
I got on Amazon that night andordered, like I think it was a
(03:31):
thrust master like T 300 orsomething, okay, like one of the
belt driven ones, and I, uh,made like a little wooden rig.
Um, just started ripping on aset, of course, of doing hot
laps and stuff.
And then what was it?
Two, three years later, I endedup finding out about iRacing.
Kind of got into that.
Struggled at first, you know,but through time, so what?
Jeff (03:54):
year?
Are we talking that you pickedup iRacing?
Jared (03:57):
20, like it was right before the pandemic.
So like close to the end of2019, I want to say okay, so we
have an og sim racer here, sogood time someone.
That's not a free time yeah,someone that just didn't.
Jason (04:13):
We had a covid pandemic and then we're like well, I
guess I'm starting to sim racingnow, but guilty as charged,
yeah same same both, both here.
Oh, that's what's up, man.
So you mentioned a subtlecourse.
Jared (04:24):
I'm assuming the original subtle right yep, yeah, I've
played too much of the acc or, Iguess, the new ones since this
came out.
Jeff (04:31):
I haven't even seen it yeah, I haven't even seen it I'm
as fast as you are, I racing.
Jared (04:37):
I sure wouldn't either I feel so out of touch with all
the updates and everything.
Jason (04:40):
I'm just you hammer down on I racing.
Now you found, uh see, thething is the grids on iRacing.
You know, I've always said ithere on the show and we
interviewed Nim Cross.
If you haven't seen that, jared, you should check that episode
out and and for to all ourlisteners as well, if you
haven't.
Um, that man broke it down andhe really made me love the sim
(05:03):
more right Than what I had, thanthe love that I found for it in
the first place, because andI'll keep this very short but we
got into iRacing because Jeffwanted to do Formula Racing and
I said, jeff, you should get oniRacing, because F120, whatever
it was, they're all the same,it's just not going cut it, you
(05:24):
know, for realism.
And then I ended up racing withhim and then I kind of stuck
with it and here I am.
Jared (05:31):
So and we live in hawaii too.
So grids here are likeimpossible almost oh yeah,
that's fair, but a set ofcourses like what is it?
11 bucks on steam, all the modsfor it, someone content manager
oh yeah, content manager,that's if you're looking to get
that's all you need, bro.
That's all you need that's allyou need, and there's tons of
(05:52):
leagues for it too.
Jason (05:53):
So you know, if you reach out in the community, find some
I'm part of the nation or thetog, something I used to drift
there with all those guys, man,and that's like I don't know.
I don't don't know how manythousands of people on that
server alone, and it's crazy,you know, rob Markman.
Jeff (06:09):
I mean you could argue that some of their mods for F1
are the best there are.
You know, I'm a big Formula guyopen wheel and some of those
you know, for like $8, you get acar and the skins, rob Markman,
oh, the RSS ones, right, thosethings are are.
Jason (06:22):
yes, they come with a manual and everything, and they
tell you how the car, how do yougot, how you start the car, how
do you mess with it?
That is next level stuff, man.
I mean we did some, we gavecontent managers some love on
the show, but I think we need todo it like a real uh breakdown
here.
Jeff (06:39):
But um, you get the online , the discord servers.
I mean, we can go on and on andon.
Oh man's on there.
Jared (06:44):
But this is cool because it's $11.
It's $11 on Steam.
Jason (06:47):
We have a pro driver here , that's wild that didn't start
on iRacing, because most of themeither start on iRacing or they
start on a different, like youare very.
You got me intrigued now.
So if we're ready to, so youstarted with a setup.
What about your rig?
If we're ready to, so youstarted with a settle.
What about your rig?
You said you made.
You mentioned the, the thrustmaster on a on a wooden setup.
Jared (07:12):
And how did that change?
Man, walk, walk us through.
Yeah, it was a really roughfirst setup.
It was kind of just a desk likebig enough for the T300.
I think it's.
I think that's what it was.
But I'd set it in front of mytv and just on xbox play a set,
of course, and uh, rip thenerver green and eventually I
got a um, I think it's a nextlevel racing rig okay that was.
Jason (07:35):
That was a step up um is that the one that had the, the
leather seat on it?
Yeah, and I had the same rig,did you really?
It was like a thousand dollarsor something like that no, is
this a fold one?
Jared (07:49):
no it was it was a stationary, but it was.
I mean, it was only a couplehundred bucks no mine, was a
thousand.
Jason (07:55):
It had had caster wheels on it.
Oh, mine wasn't that nice, okay.
Okay, we're talking 2019.
Yeah, so probably, this wasprobably way back then.
Um, so, then you.
So then you change to that andyep, and is is that, what is
that what we're running stilltoday?
Or what are we running today?
Jared (08:16):
sir.
Um, so right now I have thetony kanon from you know special
from micro center.
Um, it's just aluminumextrusion solid, solid rig.
I don't really have anything tocomplain about it.
And then I got asetek and victapedals.
I pre-ordered them and then,whenever they came out with the
pedals that you could separate,I was so mad because I was like
that's, my only complaint isthat you can't adjust how far
(08:38):
apart they are.
Oh, they're fixed yeah, andthen semi-cube two there you go.
Semi-cube for the win that's theway to go, and then that's the
way to go.
Jason (08:49):
Thank you, bro, that's awesome.
Jared (08:50):
I love semi-cube I love semi-cube too.
Jason (08:52):
And then for the wheel, I have a bunch different wheels
have you guys heard of uhpicorny engineering yes, the,
the 3d printed, the ones thatyou can make yourself, and
they're like oh, this guy'slegit.
Uh, you know, so you've madeone yourself.
Jared (09:06):
Oh, I've made it.
Yeah, I've made a couple ofthem oh, dude, this is what I'm
eventually.
Jeff (09:11):
I want to do that.
Jared (09:12):
I think that it's so rewarding I mean you can if
you're really doing it right.
Uh, you can end up putting alot of money into it.
Jason (09:20):
Defeats the purpose if you're doing it right.
Yeah, use a straight dump.
I mean, we got 3D printingmachines now and that was kind
of what motivated me to.
I think Jeff too I mean Jeffand I, we were always looking at
damn man, if I can just printthis, then maybe we can just
order the circuit board and justput it all together, right, yep
, and you know you can yeah, goahead, you can learn to make
(09:43):
your own circuit boards.
Jared (09:44):
You know, for that kind of stuff, the button boxes, it's
super easy.
Jason (09:55):
KeyCAD's free, which is a CAD software for making circuit
boards, which is something I'vebeen learning how to do, so
I'll tell you this.
I know this interview is aboutJared, but I have to shout him
out here.
Jeff (10:09):
Jeff's son has taken Tinkercad to another level,
where jeff, I need to let youhave this you need.
Yeah, so I'll just, man, Ithink, once a week I give.
So I taught him how to use amicrometer, um, some calipers,
um in, uh, in millimeters,because we didn't go into inches
, because you know it's seven.
Fractions are difficult.
I hate fractions.
Jared (10:24):
Yeah, yeah, even at like I don't know why we use
fractions, bro, so I give them.
Jeff (10:29):
I just give a random object like a mug, and I'll say,
go upstairs, and you know, andhe runs up the stairs and I'm
like, oh, we're gonna have peaceand quiet for like two hours,
dad, I'm done.
And I'm like 20 minutes laterand we measure it.
He gets it down to like youknow the millimeter, you know
the diameter is where the handleis.
Yeah, so he loves it.
It's the way of the future.
(10:50):
These kids now like elementaryschool, middle school kids, now
that's, they're gonna live adifferent life yep, no, cad's
super important to learn.
Jared (10:57):
I mean, you can do so much stuff with it, like a lot
of the stuff I have on my rigI've I've built Like I mean, how
are you going to mount your USBhub?
How are you going to mount yourpower strips?
So we're friends now right,jared, we're friends.
Jason (11:08):
Right Because we're going to ask for some STLs.
Jared (11:11):
You know maybe oh yeah, no, I have tons man and I'm
working on making some buttonboxes.
This is so cool man.
I love this community.
Look at this.
You know this is so cool.
We'll do it whenever I startmaking button boxes and get
those finished.
Admittedly, I've been workingat DDU for about a year but the
(11:32):
USB hub circuitry in it becauseit has a vocore, it's been
taking a bit too long becauseI'm not an electrical engineer,
I'm just some guy with CAD andYouTube.
But whenever I get the buttonboxes done I'll send you guys
something.
You guys can test them out thatwould be awesome.
Jason (11:48):
We'll feature them here on the show for sure, if you
ever think about putting up likea shop too.
We can feature that here aswell, all day.
Jared (11:55):
So yeah, I, I technically have one now.
Jason (11:57):
It's really just a few small things, nothing too
serious, we'll drop a link below, of course, man all right if
you, if you allow us to do that,and the viewers might be
interested and see what you'reworking on.
Jeff (12:08):
Um yeah, I think if it works for like a 4000 I rating
iracer, probably works foreverybody else.
Just that's just a generalassessment yeah, 4000 is nothing
.
Jared (12:21):
uh, yeah, bro, that easy it is kind of the Pokorny
engineering approach where Ijust tell you the 3D files I
have build, guides, show you howto put it all together, how to
program it.
But yeah, eventually I'd liketo team up with Simmons by
Razors and sell physicalproducts like button boxes,
whenever I get to that point inTDUs.
Jason (12:41):
Oh, that will be.
Jared (12:42):
Eventually steering wheels.
That's my next.
That's the kind of that's.
Jason (12:45):
The goal is to make steering wheels so, before we
move on to the next question, uh, we just did a podcast about
the debrief of the sim gamingexpo and we mentioned this.
This is how people begin, um,you know, is is having the idea
in your head and the skill setto make something that works for
you.
And then you find makesomething that works for you,
(13:08):
and then you find out that itworks for thousands of other
drivers.
So I wish you nothing but luckwith that and I can't wait to
see it.
Man, we'll check that out, youknow, after we, after we wrap up
here.
So, jeff, I think you have thenext question.
Jeff (13:19):
Brother, yeah, so um, you've been in it for what?
Six, seven years now doingiRacing?
Jared (13:30):
What is your class you race the most?
Now it's GTPs.
I used to race a lot of GT4s.
That's kind of how I got towhere I'm at Still a bit behind
on my iRacing, if I'm beinghonest.
Jeff (13:42):
So what is it if you don't mind?
Just so you can tell theaudience.
So if people don't know you,don't mind, just so you can tell
the audience.
So if people don't know you,it's just 4k flat right now, but
okay all right it needs.
Jared (13:50):
It needs some work because I know I can get to five
.
It's just.
I just need to do officials.
Jason (13:54):
That's the biggest thing I I've been doing so many
leagues and just yes, yes, rightso so I'm, I fluctuate between
1.9, 2k, 1.9, 2k, and then it'skind of like I do more league
racing than anything.
So I hear you, there's a lot ofguys like that that are just
low-key.
Jared (14:14):
The league racing is so good, it's so respectful, it's
more respect.
You have your moments, but it'sracing, but it just seems to be
so clean.
Jason (14:29):
It's hard to.
Once you catch that that bug,it's hard to get out of.
Yeah, because you know the guysthere, you know the driving
habits, you know the, you knowthe characters and you get to
meet up with them and it's kindof like you're you're, you're
meeting up on the track day withthem in real life, but you're
actually in the sim, that's.
That's kind of what it's like.
You jump in an official race,you don't know what is, who is
next to you, you don't knowwhat's going on, like yep well,
you're gonna see them again nextweek too, right, if it gets.
Jeff (14:48):
If you did something you're not proud of, you're
gonna make amends before thenext week, because you know
you're gonna have to see themagain yep and the life
stewarding and penalties aremuch better in leagues for the
most part.
Jason (14:59):
I mean, you know and the name of this league, by the way,
since.
So we're talking about leagues,so it's ivra um okay and
endurance they have a discordand everything that we can link
here.
Oh yeah, so tell us a little.
Jeff (15:13):
I mean, now that we're on here, tell us a little bit about
it.
So you said it was endurance.
You know what?
You know what type of uh eventsyou guys doing?
Jared (15:19):
so it's classic it's classic, uh, msa style.
So gs, lmp2s, gt3s.
This is going to be my firsttime running it and it's kind of
a I don't know what the correctadjective is, but kind of
prestigious league where to raceGTPs you have to be a minimum
of 4K iRating and then, even ifyou are, that doesn't mean
(15:40):
you're going to get in theleague.
So we have qualifying thisSaturday and I have to do well
enough in qualifying to be ableto be in the league.
Jason (15:53):
wow, okay yeah, they don't have time for that.
You know, gtps are dangerous,bro.
That's like those are formulaone speeds.
You know, basically the same.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying toget.
I'm trying to talk to jeff toget him in.
That too.
I'm like, hey man you mightlike gt.
You know, basically the sameyeah.
Jared (16:04):
That's what I'm trying to get.
Jason (16:05):
I'm trying to talk to Jeff to get him in.
That too I'm like hey, man, youmight like TTP.
You know, TTP is crazy.
Jeff (16:11):
I don't think the average person, like if you just, you
know, like somebody that doesn'tdo iRacing and they were to
watch that event, I don't thinkthey understand the level of
commitment and talent that youguys have in there doing that
type of stuff.
It's just not going to lookimpressive.
You know, like if you look atformula one from an outside
perspective, you're like, oh,the guys going, they're fast,
(16:33):
but yeah, like once you know alittle bit and you're like, dude
, no, like that's stupidimpressive oh yeah, and there's
still guys like that that I lookup to.
Jared (16:41):
I mean, I've been coaching with jordan johnson and
he makes it just seem so easy.
I'm just like I don't know how.
I don't know how you guys areable to do that.
You know what I mean.
Jeff (16:50):
Like there's there's so many levels to it yeah that wild
jason like yeah, that's crazywe look at jared as like the
dude, and then there's a dudethat he looks up to as the dude.
That's wild.
Jason (17:04):
That's usually how it goes.
It's just we don't put ittogether right all the time.
But yeah, that's usually how itgoes, man.
So, now that we're talkingabout leagues and we're talking
about you know, you actuallymade a drastic move up the chain
, right, you went from a settlein the iRacing.
(17:24):
Now we find out that you'retrying to get into gt, that
you're trying to qualify forthis gtp league.
Um, when, when did when?
Did you realize?
Hey, I'm, you know, I have pace, I'm good enough to to compete
at, you know, at a pro level,like how did that?
How did you?
How did you realize that?
Jared (17:46):
um, honestly, it was uh, back when I was racing gt4s and
I don't feel like I'm able torace at like a pro level, like
we're pretty good, but, um,everyone says this, but keep
going, but uh, I believe it is.
Jeff (18:02):
You know, you run into other people.
You're like Keep going.
Jared (18:04):
We've heard this before.
Yeah, daniel Morris, justcontinue.
I believe it.
Jason (18:08):
You run into other people and you're like that's the
thing about sim racers we don'treally brag about ourselves, we
brag about other people.
We never really brag aboutourselves, you know what.
I mean.
But there's a lot of respecthere, so I'll let you continue.
Jared (18:23):
I appreciate it.
Yeah, like back when I wasracing GT4s.
You know my teammate back atthe time it was a different team
, he was like 6K or pushing it.
He eventually was 6K but beingas close, like I was never on
pace with him.
I'll just put that out thereright now.
(18:43):
I was never on pace, but likehow close I was consistently to
him.
Jeff (18:52):
I was like, okay, you know , I might, I might be onto
something.
So, if you don't mind me,asking from you to him from a
four slash five to a six, whatis pace?
What's the difference in pace?
Jared (19:02):
back then.
So I think I was 3k to 3.5 okayback then and it was like
anywhere from two and a halftenths to half a second,
sometimes more.
I mean sometimes, you know, Ihad my bad days.
He never had his bad days.
But okay.
Jason (19:20):
So a tenth to me is to me , because all right, let's
compare right.
Look at Formula One drivers.
We as fans, we give them a hardtime, especially Lance Stroll
that's my favorite one,especially Lance Lowe that guy
is.
But then you can't.
(19:40):
When you look at the time boardand they're literally split by
tenths of a second and you'retelling me that you're a tenth
slower in some corners orwhatever, on some tracks or
whatever, that tells me that youhave the pace of a 6K driver
that you have it.
Jared (19:59):
Well, I wouldn't say that I think I can get to 5K Come on
man.
Jason (20:02):
You need to give yourself a little more credit, bro.
That's how I feel about it.
Jared (20:06):
I need to start doing officials, more officials, and I
think my confidence will boostup.
Jason (20:11):
It's hard to stand out in iRacing because the higher you
go, when something happens onthe track they penalize you hard
.
I have a friend that's part ofour SRC team.
He's a 4K like yourself andwhenever he hits a streak of two
races there'll be a bad race.
Somebody hit him and they take120 iR for him.
(20:34):
Like, like, like that, like ina snap and like, damn, it's like
that and it's like, yeah, dude,if you, it's really hard to
maintain that number.
You know, the higher you go, soI had that happen recently.
Jared (20:43):
I was at uh road atlanta and I was like I was up to like
4.2k and then one race.
It was just cold tires.
Someone just spun in front ofme, didn't have anywhere to go
and just into the race lost like130.
Jeff (20:59):
Well, that Right, because I-rating help me out here,
because I-rating doesn't seeyour safety rating.
It just sees flat out fromwhere you started to where you
finished in your strength offield.
Jason (21:09):
Grid positioning Yep.
Jeff (21:10):
That's all.
It is Binary number.
Yep, you started to where youfinished in your strength of
field grid positioning yepbinary number.
Jason (21:13):
Yep, like you're expected to do, so well if your strength
of field is at level, at yourlevel you need the field is two.
Jeff (21:22):
Yeah, mine's like two, seven thousand four.
Jason (21:26):
Stop it.
No, it's way too low.
But you know what I'm saying?
Your strength of field.
It determines where thestrength of field right, the
strength of everybody's eyerating and their safety.
So there's a certainexpectation from you to be
placed somewhere.
It doesn't matter how good youquality, it doesn't matter how
(21:48):
safe you were, they're going tohammer you if you don't do well
in the race.
That's what happens at thehigher end of the spectrum.
If you're not on the podium,bro, we're taking those numbers
away from you.
Don't deserve it.
I kind of like that, though,because that means when you meet
somebody that is a 9K driver,which I've met before, 7k, 8k,
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which I've met before 7K, 8kthat's a lot of dedication to
have that number and to keep it.
You know it's like a champion,right, it's like boxing.
You can be the heavyweightchampion, but if you don't
defend your title, you'renothing.
You know what I mean, and assoon as somebody knocks you out,
they're taking all the titlesaway.
Everybody forgets about you.
Jared (22:32):
Yep, like the guy who I'm getting coaching from Jordan
johnson.
He's um, I think he's like 8.2,8.3 right now, but he was.
He was telling me about umracing officials and he was like
, yeah, if I don't get first orsecond, I'm losing in some races
.
Like if I don't win, I lose Irating.
Jeff (22:46):
Yep, yeah, so let me ask, kind of dovetailed onto this
when you walk in, when you, youknow, when you roll into an
official, do you have?
I don't want to say youprobably don't know any
different people race you harder?
Because, I see it, I look, I'mlike oh shit, like that's a 4k
dude.
I want to try to keep up.
I want to.
(23:14):
You know, uh, you know, I wantto compete with him.
You know, people kind of racebeyond their skill level.
Uh, well, I don't, I don't knowhow to, unless you're racing
only a classes, you know.
If you're not, you know,dabbling into the lower classes
well, usually no, no, no.
Jared (23:26):
I don't like the a classes honestly, like c and d
has some amazing racing, but, um, no, it's kind of just
interesting skill.
If you can just get away,you're fine, because there's
usually that gap between, kindof the midfield and the front of
the field and if you can justpull away, if you're able to,
you just get away that first lap, keep it clean hell yeah, man,
(23:48):
that's what's up with all theall the smurfs.
It makes it kind of hard toanswer that question honestly,
because you'll have, you know,1.6k guy who's like on your butt
and you're like, oh god, yeah,you don't know you.
Jason (23:59):
You never know, dude, who's out there.
That's, that's, that's facts.
Like you go into a rookie raceand you expect nothing but
rookies to be there, and thenyou find this freaking, yeah
yeah this monster in there.
You're like what's going on,what are we doing?
Yep, all right.
So that kind of sums up yourpath right up to the.
You know your path to 4k andand how to maintain it, so we'll
(24:24):
move on right.
Uh, jeff, I got the next one.
Jared (24:26):
Yeah, go ahead, I got one more thing to kind of add to
that.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
I feel like the racing getscleaner as you move up.
I feel like that when you'retrying to get to that 2K, it's
so like I'm willing to risk itall, whereas those top guys,
they don't want to crash.
You can't finish first if youdon't finish.
Jeff (24:50):
This is good to know.
Jason (24:51):
It is a bit cleaner so this is a good for me.
Right, because I'm in the 2kzone and I have people sending,
sending cars.
Still they're relatively safe.
Right, because they're fast.
You know the problem.
The problem with the lower tieruh I rating is their braking
points are off and you caneasily smash the back of the car
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because you're not expectinghim to break this early.
It's like this is way too early.
You know what I mean, at leastwhere I'm at, the braking is
predictable and we can drivepretty close together at speed.
But yes, we have those unsungheroes, the, the, you know the
crazy, the crazy guy that wantsto win the race at all costs
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those dudes that drive fast andbreak late.
Jeff (25:36):
There you go, those guys the sickos.
Jared (25:39):
We call them the sickos, yeah I think what helped me get
from three to four k was justrealizing if, if you just let
this guy go like he's being waytoo aggressive, I'm just gonna
let him go sit behind him.
He's gonna make a mistakeeventually.
You know he's over, way tooaggressive, I'm just going to
let him go sit behind him.
He's going to make a mistakeEventually.
You know he's overdriving hiscar, just do just sit back, like
you don't have to race someonecorner for corner.
Like just let them pass.
(25:59):
They're going to make a mistakeCause they're driving like
crazy, so just pay.
Jason (26:04):
They're overheating the tire there.
The car is quickly and yeah,you, just you get to watch them.
You know, lose it and get themright there I don't know
especially especially at the endof the race.
Jared (26:15):
You know their tires.
Yeah, you get them right there.
Jason (26:17):
The tires are cooked, bro .
You're like oh okay, I see youstruggling now.
Yeah, that's what's up, man.
So all right, we'll move on tothe next one, man it's good, so
this kind of ties into that.
Jeff (26:28):
So, uh, what's something that you would tell?
You know the average racerthat's looking to improve their
I rating or just get faster tofocus on.
Jared (26:37):
Stop overdriving, stop focusing so much on breaking
points I mean not breakingpoints, but the entry of a
corner really nailed down, theexit and mid speed like the
minimum speed of the apex.
If you can get that down down,the braking just going to be
what it is.
Don't try and push the car intothe corner because it's going
to overheat and I do this, I'mstill, you know, working on this
(26:59):
um but you'll overheat yourfront so you won't have that mid
, uh, mid corner speed andyou'll lose.
On exit, you know your linesgonna be messed up because you
you slam the brakes way too late.
Jason (27:10):
So there you go, guys.
We got some free professionaladvice here, yeah so hey, listen
, I got the man here.
Jeff (27:15):
I'm gonna ask a couple follow-up questions so I can get
past here.
Everybody else could take acommercial break here, but I
want to.
So you're talking about, youknow, the apex.
You know, find the ape, thespeed that you can take the apex
at fastest.
Is that what you're you'rereally talking about here?
Jared (27:31):
It's making sure, like optimizing your exits, first and
foremost, with the correct lineand then kind of working that
speed up until you're on thelimit while still getting those
perfect exits, and then you canwork on the braking.
Jason (27:48):
I agree with jared.
Sometimes it's better tosacrifice a corner to get the
better exit and point the carstraight.
That way you can get quicker onthe throttle.
That's what.
That's basically what he'ssaying.
Um, well, it's.
It's great to talk about it,jeff, but we don't always do
that right.
Jeff (28:05):
I have the best intentions I've got the best we know this,
right, jared.
Jared (28:10):
You're like yeah, I know this is still something that I
do.
I'm still like, hey, dudeyou're, you're overdriving the
car right now.
Like reel it back in yeah, I'll, yeah, I'll lift and coast.
If I'm, if I'm catching it Imean not in officials, but like
if and during practice I'llnotice I'm like, all right,
you're gonna.
You're just gonna coast intothe corner and just focus on the
exit get that muscle memorydown.
Jason (28:30):
Okay, this is great advice, and you know what it's,
advice that I agree with ahundred percent, because we talk
about dry fast and break late.
But you know, we you want totug and cheek.
Yes, it's give and take Right,but I guess we'll move on to the
next one which I have here, andnow that we got your history
(28:51):
down, um, we know where you camefrom and now we get to talk
about the fun stuff you knowtell us about, uh, team impact,
sim sport, like how does whattell us everything about it?
Jared (29:05):
so everything they're probably gonna to hate me.
I'm a bit new to the team, sokeep that in mind.
But we do a lot of leagues andspecial events is kind of the
main thing.
Jason (29:19):
Okay.
Jared (29:20):
I don't know if you met him.
Corbin Lenaway is our team boss.
We had a booth at the Expo.
I might have.
I thought I saw that shirt,dude, we were all over the place
at the expo I mean so much fun.
Jason (29:34):
Yeah, it was amazing, dude, but I'm pretty sure we did
.
I think we, I think we didshake hands at one point.
Jared (29:39):
Yes, yep, kind of a.
He had the glasses blonde.
Kind of ugly looking guy, shots, fired shots fired no, he was.
Uh, he was actually roomingwith me at at the expo.
Jason (29:52):
So we, we bumped I like this guy bro so jared, you're
good on my book bro so now now Ican say I was with the team
boss?
Jared (30:05):
no, he's, he's a good guy , you know we're straight, uncut
and unfiltered in here.
Jason (30:08):
I hope you know this is good, I was I was.
Jared (30:10):
I was hoping I would stay in like they'll get a good
laugh out of that yeah, good,good, but um, no, I actually
came over.
Um, I've raced on a differentteam with one of the guys that
we came over with who was doingthe um, the gt3s, the gt3 race
okay, I'm blanking on the nameof it but um, him and I came
over and then it's just kind ofit's been, it's been nice
(30:31):
because I was on a european teambefore and the time zone
difference, like you know, you'dcome home, get off of work and
everyone be asleep and you'rejust like, all right, I'll
practice alone.
So being on an american-basedteam is is really nice, like I
mean, we had like 10 guys onthere earlier, just practicing
yeah it was a lot of fun.
Jason (30:49):
Group group practicing is the best.
It's the best because you, whenyou're by yourself, you have no
one.
It's kind of like when you goto the gym, right, you go to the
gym and you want to.
You want to be an athlete, youwant to not an athlete, you want
to be a bodybuilder, but youdon't have a spotter to push you
more, to get you to do more.
You you're just going to driveyour comfort, drive your laps
(31:09):
and then that's it.
But when you have people, yousee that lap times they're doing
.
You're like man, what am Idoing?
Jared (31:16):
I got another 10th in me.
Jason (31:18):
There you go, yes there, it is right there, exactly.
That's awesome yeah.
Jared (31:24):
I hate seeing number two, so how did you find?
Jason (31:27):
them?
How did you find them?
I know you, you came from aeuropean team, right, yeah?
And how did you end up with uh,with team impact, like how did
you?
Did you apply for it or didthey find?
Jared (31:40):
you, or not really.
So I think d mills, uh, one ofthe guys, the guy that came over
with, uh, daniel mills, he knewcorbin in some way and he was
like, hey, we got a bunch ofAmericans that are looking for a
new team.
Okay, they're kind of that eyereading you're looking for.
And yeah, yeah just just kindof happened to be honest with
(32:01):
you, is there a tryout?
No, no, not, not for, not forus.
Just kind of I got lucky, youknow, knowing the right people
being in the right place, righttime.
To be honest with you.
Jason (32:13):
Okay, you know I'm a free agent.
You know there's no tryout, youknow.
Jared (32:20):
Let me know Our practice sessions are open.
I'm hosting them every singleday besides Thursday.
Well, I guess it's justtomorrow now, but Thursday,
Friday, we have the officialpractice sessions, but I'll be
hosting.
Jason (32:30):
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, yeah, do you stream themtoo?
Jared (32:34):
no, I'm dude.
I don't have the brain power toread, chat and stream.
Yes, you do, bro dude.
Jason (32:40):
I I'm dyslexic dude, so I like I have to sit there and I
used to feel the same way andthen I just kind of learned how
to do it.
I don't know.
Jeff (32:48):
You just read them on the straights bro just try to remain
, keep uh trying to get to fivethousand, five thousand I read I
know I'm reading no tech he'scaring about the chat.
Jared (32:57):
He's focused on track and then you see, like streamers
who are, you know, really reallyfast just casually just looking
over and reading while they'redriving, I don't get it.
Jeff (33:06):
That's, that's another level okay, I'm already thinking
like, hey, he's making me feelgood.
Now what's my?
Jason (33:11):
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Okay.
Jeff (33:49):
So I got to follow on Jason here, so you know what's
some of the events that you andyour team or you just you in
general are focusing on up herecoming up in the near future.
Jared (33:59):
Ifra is the biggest one.
Jeff (34:00):
Um, I've been prepping my ass off for that and I still
feel well, tell us a little bitabout it if you don't mind,
cause not everybody's probablygoing to know.
Jared (34:08):
Um, so it's that, um, that league where you have to be
4k to raise gtps and then oh,oh, oh the one you mentioned
earlier.
Jeff (34:15):
The tryout one got you yep , so the season starts here soon
yep pre-qualifying saturdayit's a two-hour race at uh the
bend dude, I'm so sorry we'retaking time away from you right
now doing this recording.
Jared (34:28):
You're good.
I it's late enough in theevening my mind's kind of gone.
I was on for two hours, thislike after work, so we're good
okay, okay have you guys?
Have you guys raced the bin?
Jeff (34:39):
I have not.
No, no, it doesn't usually comeup in formula it is worth the
drive.
Jared (34:44):
It is so much fun.
The bend international it's somuch fun okay, I don't know.
Jason (34:49):
We might do a track of the week on that too.
Jared (34:51):
Okay, that's fair.
Jason (34:51):
Take note of that.
There you go.
Jared (34:53):
But, I don't know how multi-class is going to go on
that, I've heard it's.
I heard it's all right, butI've also heard it's horrible.
Jeff (35:04):
So we'll find out.
Yeah, we'll find out soonenough, right, or how does that
work out?
Jared (35:08):
I think it's about once a month.
Jeff (35:09):
Okay, so you get some time to practice on it.
Jared (35:13):
Yeah, I mean I'll definitely need it because I'll
probably be one of the lowestranked people in there.
Jason (35:17):
Dude, you got to let us know.
I need to update the show onhow you turned out.
We want to know if you made it.
If you didn't make it, what'sgoing on?
Man, if you want to share, youknow, yeah, if you tell me hey,
I didn't make it.
And, by the way, don't sayanything, I'll be like okay.
Jeff (35:32):
It'd be cool if you guys stream that.
Jason (35:34):
I'd jump in there to watch that.
Jeff (35:35):
I would love to watch this man.
Jason (35:36):
And the community would probably be ecstatic.
I mean, by the time they watchthis, you're already qualified,
because I'm pretty sure you'regoing to qualify, I'm pretty
(35:58):
sure you're going.
That already happened, bro.
So when you get to see this,you can be like oh yeah, that's
my past self like flipping outor nervous about the event and I
had no problem.
Jeff (36:02):
When I came in p3, I came in there and I killed it bro,
yeah, yep and I passed the shitout of my ugly.
Jared (36:05):
Ass.
Boss, he's in gt, he's racinggt3, so I'll be passing him good
man.
Don't hit him, though, forwhatever reason, because oh no,
and and they, uh, they judge youbased on racecraft too.
So even if you, you know,finish p5, if you're crashing
into the gt3s, you're not goingto get invited to the league so
okay makes sense, racing mattersyeah, it's a big responsibility
(36:29):
with the faster car.
Jason (36:30):
We've always said that on the show, because there's a
slower car and being in thefaster car means you can
maneuver around the slower carand that's your responsibility
with the faster car.
Jared (36:41):
That's hands down 100%, and as long as the slow car just
stays on its racing line, I'llfigure it out.
Jason (36:47):
Just if you're a slow car , be predictable when you have a
screaming machine behind you donot make any sudden movements,
don't try and get out of our way, that's yes, if you're gonna
situation this is the same wesay.
You know and and jeff mightrecognize if you're wrong, stay
wrong.
If you're wrong, stay wrong.
Jeff (37:05):
Do not try to correct it, because you're gonna I'm used to
the guy that's just staying inmy lane and yep, yeah, yeah, I'm
good at that there's some nastygtp drivers out there too yeah,
man, I would.
Jason (37:18):
I mean I can, I can drive them.
I'm not sure if I'm fast, fastin them, but I can drive them.
And they are scary sometimeswhen you have slower cars
because they're moving so slow,bro, like yeah, it's like a
standing still there.
There we were on road america.
We did a six-hour race and wedid the.
We took the mustang uh gt3 outand there was freaking gtps
(37:40):
there and you know that I don'tknow the name of the turn or
what number it would have been.
You know what I'm talking about.
That right hand turn that isflat out in a GTP.
Oh, turn one.
No, it's not turn one, it'safter.
It's Road America, not Atlanta.
Jared (37:55):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of Road
Atlanta.
I might have said Road Atlanta.
You know what I'm?
Jason (38:00):
talking about the one after the big, the big, the big.
After that big, and then it's amassive straight after that.
You know how fast the gtp isgoing.
Yeah, and we're over there likein fifth gear.
Jared (38:17):
You guys are like it's.
Yeah, it's always frustratingcatching a gt3 at that corner
too, because you're like I knowI can't you can't overtake a lot
of time, yeah yeah, and youcan't overtake on the inside,
that's just reckless.
I mean, you can, but you shoulddepend on the situation.
Jeff (38:31):
You really he's like you really shouldn't that's super
frustrating because you'vereally, you know, given a lot of
time on that lap, lifting oversome, because then it's straight
into, like you were saying,straight into that, straight
away, where you're, oh yeah,sacrificing time.
That's frustrating.
Jared (38:44):
I can see that sometimes if I, if I know I'm gonna catch
him at that corner, I'll justlift coming out of the the uh,
previous corner.
I don't know what number it is,but that big, long,
right-hander Right.
Jason (38:56):
So you lift.
I mean, that's so what you know.
To keep the story quick andshort, um, one of our drivers
lost the car.
It was, you know, and he wasliterally sideways and a GTP was
coming and he was, and a GTPwas coming and he was.
It was a P1, he was the P1 GTPguy.
Yes, bro, and this guy, he seesour car in the middle of the
(39:25):
road right and he decides to getoff the grass to pass.
I don't know why he did.
I don't know why he does this,but our driver is thinking I
need to get off the race line,right, because I'm on the race
line, cars are coming throughhere, let me back this car up.
So we kind of backed into theP1 of a GT.
His car flipped a hundredmillion times.
(39:46):
We got a lot of hate mail and,yeah, that was like the story of
that race, six hours gone.
It's a learning experience.
But hearing from you that youwould lift, especially knowing
when there's a yellow flag, whywouldn't you lift?
Why didn't you slow down alittle, knowing that there's a
yellow flag approaching, whichwas my?
(40:08):
I don't know, but I thinkthat's cool, man.
I think that's cool that youacknowledge what I just said,
and that's that you hold thebigger responsibility over the
other cars because you're in thefaster car.
That's, that's gospel.
Jared (40:21):
A hundred percent.
Jason (40:22):
All right, so let's move on to the next question here.
Um, you know where do you seemost people here?
Um, you know where do you seemost people you know to have
improvement in, like in racing,like where?
Where?
Give me your honest thoughts.
I mean, I know you mentionedabout, you know, the, the
entering corners and stuff likethat, but how do we, how do we
(40:43):
get to a 4k, like, how do we dothat?
Jared (40:45):
you know, I think a lot of it is.
It's really hard to do and Istill struggle with it.
But just being honest withyourself, like, yeah, dude, I, I
messed that up Like this isthis is why I crashed, you know.
Analyze your telemetry data.
Data doesn't lie, you know.
So look at the telemetry data.
Be honest with yourself.
Say, hey, I am overdriving thiscar.
Jason (41:13):
I can feel it under right , you know a lot, so and I'm
triggering abs when I shouldn't.
You know stuff like that.
Yeah, I know, if I trigger abs,I know I'm already.
I'm already off the off thepace if, if that's happening to
me, that's like the indicatorfirst one, I use.
Jared (41:23):
So, yeah, and the biggest thing is like when you get in a
as far as racecraft goes, it'sthe same thing, it's just
honesty like before you get onthe mic and you know, cuss this
guy out or send him a nastymessage like watch that replay,
my favorite part.
When they do that, was itreally his fault?
Because I've had that whereI've crashed out and I got so
mad.
And then you go back and lookat the replay.
It's like that was actually myfault.
(41:44):
That was I.
I messed that up, and thataccountability is kind of what
helps you progress.
I think it's a big part of it.
Jeff (41:50):
Yeah, I learned that a while.
You know, I was like man, whatyou know, that dude took me out.
And then you watch the replaylike yeah, you know it wasn't
really my corner, was it?
yeah, yeah, it was his corneryeah so I think there's.
That's a great point, though Ithink that there's something to
be said about, you know, takingownership, and I think nim cross
(42:11):
really alluded to.
I think that there's somethingto be said about taking
ownership, and I think Nimcrossreally alluded to it.
It was like, hey, people needto be, and that's why he's such
a stickler for the high cost tosafety when you crash.
Jason (42:21):
Yep, he was mentioning that too.
We had a wreck in a 24-hourevent.
We did, and it wasn't our fault, but then we didn't.
You need to kind of visualizewhat's happening in front of you
, kind of like what you saidearlier about being patient.
So we saw these two cars doingthis and trying to pass each
(42:41):
other and we're hammered downbehind them and they crashed and
we ended up hitting thembecause there's nowhere to go
and it's the Nurburgring, whichis a fast.
That's a tricky one.
Yeah, it's a fast track, youknow.
Jared (43:01):
Um, so I, I, you know, I appreciate that, that's, that's
real talk, is to own yourself.
I, I, I a hundred percent agree.
Yeah, stay the student you know, stay the student constantly
looking for stuff to improve on,cause we we all have stuff we
can be better at.
So find those things, look forthem.
Look at your telemetry data,watch your replays.
There you go.
Jason (43:19):
All right.
So, jeff, you got the next onebrother.
Jeff (43:23):
So speaking of getting faster, practice is obviously
clearly very important, butwhat's one piece of gear that's
critical for you to be fast andit's enabled you to be fast okay
, that's a great question pedals, pedals, pedals why?
Without for those out there,why?
Jared (43:40):
um.
So with the ace of tech andvictors is they're very, very
stiff and I feel I never got areal consistency or speed boost
from when I got the direct drivewheel.
People like to say that I eh,but the pedals allow you to be
so much more consistent whenyou're, instead of with the
(44:01):
brake, trying to figure out whatposition, what angle your
foot's at, versus how much forceyou're putting into it.
It's a lot easier to replicatethat time and time again and you
gain a lot of consistency fromthat okay so pedals yep, so
pedals with the uh strengthbeing the brake pedal.
Jason (44:23):
That's, that's where we're, that's where we're fast
is the brake pedal, which ishard to say right, but the brake
pedal is speed, the brake pedalis your beginner.
Jeff (44:32):
It's really hard to understand somebody says, yeah,
the fastest thing you do is geta good break they're like what?
Jared (44:38):
and?
It's more consistency, becauseonce you can shrink that and
become way more consistent, youcan get up to that limit a lot
more often than you can.
If you know, you're way outhere, I can't even show it on
camera, but you guys know whatI'm saying, I know what you're
saying, brother.
Jason (44:53):
All right, so you know, I guess.
General question, man, likeyou've been sim racing for
longer than us, where do you seeit headed?
You know, like we did the expo.
The expo was awesome, it wasgreat.
It was great hanging out withyou.
That was like a good time, man,we had it was.
Jared (45:11):
You know?
Shout out to George too.
I have, I can't.
I can go on.
I could spend a whole hourtalking about how good of a guy
that is, but I just want toshout out you should have had
jared on the debrief man.
Yeah, next time.
Jason (45:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah did you guys do another debrief.
I'll be back there next yeartoo, so oh no, you're a friend
of the show already.
Jared (45:28):
Trust me that's already been established.
I like it yeah.
Jason (45:32):
So where do you see the hobby right sim racing headed
two to five years, like where doyou?
What are your overall thoughtson that?
Jared (45:41):
um, I've really been enjoying seeing a lot of the
formula one guys get.
I mean, show you know theirexperience with sim racing.
I feel like it's really goingto be a tool to help bridge that
pay gap to get into racing,because I mean, yeah, gear is
expensive, but you don't, youknow, you don't need what I have
.
Like you can, you know, there's7k guys who have that crappy
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thing bolted to a desk, you know, yeah, and I think I think
that's going to be the biggestthing is decreasing that pay gap
to real world racing, becausewe can both agree that real real
life racing.
Jason (46:15):
I know, I know this is sim racing, but real life racing
has always had this barrierbetween do you have enough money
to race?
Or do you versus the skills torace, because there's a lot of
people that could do this, youknow, and a lot of people are
starting to realize that, oh,it's not just because they're
super humans, it's because a lotof people, you know, there's
humans that can actually do itmore.
Jared (46:37):
They just can't afford it , you know, but they can do it
you know, yep, exactly so yeah,I had a track bike for a little
bit and, dude I, I was young, Ievery spare penny I had went to
going to track days and doingthat.
But you, just you know you go.
Jason (46:51):
So you did, do, you did do track days?
Jared (46:54):
yeah, okay, on motorcycles, I had a cbr 600,
okay.
Jason (46:58):
I have a CBR 600 RR right now in my garage.
Jeff (47:02):
I had one, I sold it.
Jason (47:03):
There you go, and I used to track it up in California
back in the day Okay, what yearis it?
Jared (47:10):
That's a 13, 2013.
That's the same one I had.
That's the same one I tracked.
See, I love this guy already.
Jeff (47:15):
Yeah, good man.
Jason (47:16):
That's a good bike, honda .
Jared (47:21):
yeah, good man that's a good bike, honda guy too, and
it's.
It's the tri-color version.
You know which one?
The red, the red, blue, the red, white, white.
Jason (47:26):
I same one I had, I mean, yeah, mine's puerto rican just
so you know, it's you know Ihave to come on, I mean fair
enough, you can tell that yoursis american, yeah mine's is a
little just more obnoxious, youknow that's funny it's a lot
(47:48):
louder in the morning justbecause yeah you know, just
because it has the flags onthere, but uh, yeah, but I put a
power commander dude.
Jared (47:55):
That's a totally different conversation, bro dude
, we could go on about that,yeah but, um, yeah, I moved over
.
Jason (48:01):
I used to.
I started with q1s on that bikeand I used to track q3s when
they came out.
Remember the q3s?
Yep, yep, I I ran q3s for alittle bit I didn't have a tire
and half a day, jeff, there wasno more tire left.
Jared (48:15):
I had no more I made the expensive mistake of thinking I
could use them for two trackdays, and then no, you cannot,
bro, and I mean not, you cannotand I did the crazy thing of
trying to go back home with thetire.
Yeah, I found out the hard wayoh yeah, you go into that corner
and the bike just goes.
You're like, oh well, shit, I'msliding now.
Jason (48:35):
So I have taping up my lights and stuff I forgot to.
I'm on the road and I'm like,oh shit, I'm taking it off.
Jared (48:41):
Yeah, yeah good times, bro.
I full on.
Uh, I did so much.
I mean not so much, but I didsome weight reduction.
I ended up removing theradiator fan.
So anytime I was, you know,driving on the street because I
took headlights, taillights,turn indicator like it was a
full track bike.
It was a full track bike, yeah,every time I was track bike,
yeah Every time I was, you know,legally riding on the street.
(49:01):
Uh, I couldn't sit atstoplights for too long without
turning the bike off.
Jason (49:05):
Yeah, cause you overheat that to hell bro, hell yeah, all
right, so we were down to thelast question here and I think
Jeff's going to have the thehonors here.
Jeff (49:16):
Yeah, it's kind of similar to um, you know you?
You said you've uh tracked thebike.
Um, have you ever been in areal race car?
Jared (49:24):
Uh, nope, no, I would, I would like to.
Um, I could barely, I reallycouldn't at the time, but I did
somehow afford to do the trackbike, um, and know, everything's
twice as expensive with a car,if not more.
You know, double cylinders,double the wheels, double the
brakes.
So I've done, I've done anddouble the cost, if you ever
(49:46):
double that yes oh yeah, I meanjust rear sets.
You know, when you crash amotorcycle the rear sets are.
You know what?
A couple hundred bucks yeah,they're not bad.
Jason (49:55):
yeah, yeah, you can total them a lot easier, though you
total bike easier than a car.
Yeah, that's true you get somesliders.
She might flip around a littlebit, but hopefully she doesn't.
Yeah, because that's whatsliders do.
I've seen some bad things, somevery sad things, and you're
watching it in slow motion.
You see the bikes.
(50:15):
Oh yeah, ka-ching, ka-ching,ka-ching, ka-ching pinball dude
on the track.
Jeff (50:23):
I'm like, oh my god, you think you're gonna see.
You know kind of to that topic.
Do you think you're gonna seemore drivers real car, in real
life drivers coming up that havethe sim experience?
Jared (50:32):
oh yeah, 100.
I think we're already startingto see that kind of happen.
I mean shoot.
There's that whole movie aboutthe guy from gran trismo making
it into yes, that's real lifeyeah, yeah, that's real life,
it's already happening there's anascar guy too.
The I racing nascar um, yes, Ican't remember his name, but I
know exactly what you're talkingabout so wait a minute.
Jason (50:52):
Is this a dream of yours?
What if you got a shot today?
What if some?
What car are you jumping into?
Jeff (50:56):
if you had a chance to that, you would feel confident
enough to get to run some fastlaps.
Jason (51:00):
Are you getting into?
Gtp in real life.
Jared (51:02):
Hell.
No, I'm not physically fitenough Hell no.
No, my neck would be like a wetnoodle after two laps, if that.
I mean.
If I could, I think GT4s, orhonestly even the Miatas, would
be a lot of fun.
Okay, the Miatas.
I think just how close theracing is and that it's just,
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it's hard to beat.
Jason (51:25):
I would do.
Jared (51:26):
GT4, dude.
Jeff (51:27):
But what yeah, but the Miata is a lot cheaper to fix
than the GT4.
Jason (51:31):
I mean, this is very true .
This is very true, and you alllove it.
Jeff (51:34):
Those Miatas are like.
I mean, it's like, yeah, it'saggressive out there.
Jason (51:38):
That's something I've seen yeah, that's the school of
the hard knocks, bro with thoseguys.
There's a bunch of memes onthem too, all over the socials.
It's funny, but uh what wasyour choice?
Dude like like last question,like or sorry to cut you, jeff
what, what you had something forhim for?
Jerry, nope go ahead, okay,yeah, so gt4, what was your?
(51:58):
So my my favorite is theMercedes, the Mercedes GT4.
I'm a Porsche fanatic, but inGT4, it's a very different story
.
Jared (52:08):
Which one is yours, merc, by far.
Jeff (52:11):
You see Look at this guy, look at this.
Jared (52:15):
This is crazy.
Yeah, I know it was by far theMerc.
I don't know what it was, Ifelt it just.
Jason (52:19):
He might be my brother or son or something in the past.
I don't know, who knows?
Jared (52:25):
The McLaren was a pretty close second CBR.
Jason (52:27):
Merc McLaren.
We love McLaren.
Jeff (52:29):
Yeah, McLaren's pretty good.
I drove the shit out of it fora while.
Jared (52:34):
Yeah, it's a good.
It felt light yeah not like.
Jeff (52:38):
I just liked it.
It felt it was very.
I feel like it was very pointyyeah, I could just point it, and
it would kind of work its wayinto that direction so you know
what yeah, go ahead, you likethe mark, I like.
Jared (52:48):
I like the mark because I felt like I could rotate on the
brakes a bit better than theother ones and I felt like
having that adjustability of absand traction control kind of
gave a small advantage to themerc.
Jason (53:00):
It's just a smooth ride and you know what made me so.
I never used to race gt4s.
We had daniel morris on theshow a year ago and you can go
back and watch that if you want.
Um, and he mentioned he's.
He's a pro.
You know mercedes guy, he's apro mercedes driver for both,
both classes, and he mentionedhow smooth it was to turn the
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wheel, how nice and gentle it is, and then you have the power
too.
They have that thing soundsamazing too when you get on the
gas.
So I was like you know what,I'm going to buy it.
I talked to Daniel and Daniel'sgot me thinking about mercedes
all day and I drove it on thenurburg for two hours in the
rain and she held together likenothing, bro, like nothing.
(53:48):
That's when I was like oh, thisis it, if I can drive this car
in the rain for two hours atnight on the nurburg ring uh,
you could dude.
That's kind of the worst casescenario, right?
Yeah, yeah, maybe that, orMonza Monza's pretty bad in the
rain too, I don't know.
Oof Must be, I don't know ifI've raced that in the rain?
(54:08):
I don't know.
Jared (54:09):
I kind of avoid Monza.
Everyone avoids Monza, broEveryone.
And if you play the f1 games.
It's what is it?
Monaco everybody was avoidingmonaco back then, but yeah, oh
yeah, it's such a good track andI feel like the racing is
really good.
Jason (54:24):
It's just that first lap, you know, first two laps, it's
just the giant straightaway dudethat people just want to send
the hell out of the car withcold tires.
Yeah, it's no, you know, that'sa first gear corner right, with
cold tires, first gear, oh yeah, so All right.
(54:45):
Well, you know, I'm happy tosee the enthusiasm.
If it is your dream to become aracer, I really hope that it
comes true and I really hopethat that you get a shot.
And and also I want to wish yougood luck on your, your journey
into the gtp side of thingswith the, with the big boys.
Um, good luck there.
(55:05):
And yeah, this is gonnaconclude the interview.
Um, thank you so much for youknow, making the time.
I know it's late over therewhere you're at um, if we don't.
Uh, jeff, do you have any otherquestions for jared here before
we let him go?
Jeff (55:19):
no, jared, you got any uh shout outs.
You want to give real quick.
Jared (55:23):
Yeah, shout out Impact Sims 4.
There you go, my website,jbinnovationsorg.
I'm going to get some morestuff up on there.
Jason (55:36):
So this guy is an upcoming professional slash
hardware engineer.
I would love to share his links.
So, guys, please check him out,give him some love on the
socials, check out the thingsthat he's building and the
awesome you know communitythat's you know forming around.
We'll also look at this uhleague that he's part of and
maybe we can even race side byside.
(55:58):
We might not be on pace, wemight be side by side at at you
know at the start, but at leastside by side as he's part of,
and maybe we can even race sideby side.
We might not be on pace, wemight be side by side at the
start, but at least Be side byside as he's about to go.
He might be lapping us a fewtimes.
Jeff (56:08):
I'll be shoulder to shoulder for a thousandth of a
second.
Jason (56:12):
I'll take a screenshot when you're done, but don't
worry, I'll just take ascreenshot.
There's Jared Look I'm in frontof him no, shocked.
There.
There's jared look I'm in frontof him no way.
So yeah, I just wanted to.
I just want to thank you and itwas a pleasure meeting you at
the at chicago and yeah, man, Iwish you the best in everything
that you decide to do.
Jared (56:32):
Brother so I did.
I appreciate it and thank youguys so much for having me on.
I mean, it felt weird at theend.
You're like man, I'm going tohave you on.
I was like me, yeah, you.
Jason (56:40):
So yeah, I really do appreciate you guys, everybody's
got a story and the ChicanePodcast does not categorize
people.
You know that way.
You know, we've hadprofessional drivers here, we've
had sim racers here, we've hadCEOs on the show.
Everybody, everybody deservestheir.
Everybody has their story, asJeff says.
Everybody has their story, asJeff says, everybody has their
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stories, and always interestingto hear.
And Chicane Podcast is allabout the community.
For the SimRacer anyway, thatis it's number one priority.
And with that, guys, thank youso much.
Jeff shout out to Mr Kellycould not make it today, but I'm
pretty sure he would love to behere to talk to guests.
(57:21):
He loves doing that.
So, jared, good luck witheverything and thank you so much
again for making the time.
And to all you viewers andlisteners out there, have a
great start of your week, thankyou.
This episode is brought to you by Trophyai.
We discuss all things in thesim racing world.
I'm your host, jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Jeff
Smart and Jared Ridwell, adriver from Impact SimSport.
How's everyone doing today?
Jeff (00:50):
Dude.
Jason (00:50):
Good how you doing Awesome fellas.
Jeff (00:52):
Great seeing you, jared.
Welcome to the studio, jason.
Good seeing you buddy, ready toknock this discussion out.
We've got some good stuff todayto talk about.
Jason (01:01):
Hell yeah.
So we met Jared at at the atthe sim gaming expo, and we saw
the skills this man's puttingout, so I figured it'd be a nice
idea to have him on the showand and he obviously felt the
same way.
So, uh, a huge warm welcome toto jared here.
Uh, let me know how you'redoing this week, man.
(01:22):
How's it's it going?
Jared (01:24):
Yeah, first of all, thank you guys for having me on this
week.
I've just been prepping forEvra, so I've just been in the
rig any free time.
I have just got out, stillmaybe a little sweaty, but yeah,
it's been good.
Jason (01:38):
Okay.
Jeff (01:39):
That's.
You know there was a funny.
I just want to bring it upbecause it was worthwhile.
We were talking a little bitbefore we went on air and Jared
was like, yeah, sorry, I don'thave, you know, these nice cool
backgrounds.
You know, like you do, andwe're like this, this is all for
show.
And then we're like I wouldhappily trade this background
for the skills for your, some ofyour skills.
So the skills, bro, no no funnyman, this is all flash.
(02:01):
This is all flash, no skill.
Jason (02:04):
Yeah, it's kind of like golf, right?
You know, you have this golferthat has this used set of golf
clubs and they're all rusted up,and you have this expensive,
shiny, freaking, $700 driver andyou can barely break 100.
Yeah, and here comes this guy.
Boom.
You're like damn man, what am Idoing?
(02:25):
I?
Jeff (02:25):
like to say, though I might not be the fastest, but I
have the most fun.
Jason (02:29):
Yeah, we've always said that, Yep, that's gospel, right
there, gospel.
So I will say this guys, beforewe move any further Welcome,
jared to the show.
Mr Eric Kelly unfortunatelycould not make this one, so we
will see him hopefully in thenext episode.
Um, and with that, uh, we willget in right into it, man.
(02:50):
So, jared, welcome again.
Tell us about your journey intosim racing, man.
How did you find it?
You know, what was your firstrig and what did you start with
and how did?
How did?
How did things?
You know, how did things morphover time?
You know, give us a timeline ofhistory there so it all started
, I think, like 2017.
Jared (03:11):
Um, I was playing forza with a controller, as most
people you know, kind of getinto it.
Um, and then somehow, jimmybroadband came up on my youtube
feed.
I kept watching his nervergreenlaps with on a set of corsa.
I was like, oh, I have, he'sgot a wheel and everything you
can get that it has forcefeedback.
So I had to.
I got on Amazon that night andordered, like I think it was a
(03:31):
thrust master like T 300 orsomething, okay, like one of the
belt driven ones, and I, uh,made like a little wooden rig.
Um, just started ripping on aset, of course, of doing hot
laps and stuff.
And then what was it?
Two, three years later, I endedup finding out about iRacing.
Kind of got into that.
Struggled at first, you know,but through time, so what?
Jeff (03:54):
year?
Are we talking that you pickedup iRacing?
Jared (03:57):
20, like it was right before the pandemic.
So like close to the end of2019, I want to say okay, so we
have an og sim racer here, sogood time someone.
That's not a free time yeah,someone that just didn't.
Jason (04:13):
We had a covid pandemic and then we're like well, I
guess I'm starting to sim racingnow, but guilty as charged,
yeah same same both, both here.
Oh, that's what's up, man.
So you mentioned a subtlecourse.
Jared (04:24):
I'm assuming the original subtle right yep, yeah, I've
played too much of the acc or, Iguess, the new ones since this
came out.
Jeff (04:31):
I haven't even seen it yeah, I haven't even seen it I'm
as fast as you are, I racing.
Jared (04:37):
I sure wouldn't either I feel so out of touch with all
the updates and everything.
Jason (04:40):
I'm just you hammer down on I racing.
Now you found, uh see, thething is the grids on iRacing.
You know, I've always said ithere on the show and we
interviewed Nim Cross.
If you haven't seen that, jared, you should check that episode
out and and for to all ourlisteners as well, if you
haven't.
Um, that man broke it down andhe really made me love the sim
(05:03):
more right Than what I had, thanthe love that I found for it in
the first place, because andI'll keep this very short but we
got into iRacing because Jeffwanted to do Formula Racing and
I said, jeff, you should get oniRacing, because F120, whatever
it was, they're all the same,it's just not going cut it, you
(05:24):
know, for realism.
And then I ended up racing withhim and then I kind of stuck
with it and here I am.
Jared (05:31):
So and we live in hawaii too.
So grids here are likeimpossible almost oh yeah,
that's fair, but a set ofcourses like what is it?
11 bucks on steam, all the modsfor it, someone content manager
oh yeah, content manager,that's if you're looking to get
that's all you need, bro.
That's all you need that's allyou need, and there's tons of
(05:52):
leagues for it too.
Jason (05:53):
So you know, if you reach out in the community, find some
I'm part of the nation or thetog, something I used to drift
there with all those guys, man,and that's like I don't know.
I don't don't know how manythousands of people on that
server alone, and it's crazy,you know, rob Markman.
Jeff (06:09):
I mean you could argue that some of their mods for F1
are the best there are.
You know, I'm a big Formula guyopen wheel and some of those
you know, for like $8, you get acar and the skins, rob Markman,
oh, the RSS ones, right, thosethings are are.
Jason (06:22):
yes, they come with a manual and everything, and they
tell you how the car, how do yougot, how you start the car, how
do you mess with it?
That is next level stuff, man.
I mean we did some, we gavecontent managers some love on
the show, but I think we need todo it like a real uh breakdown
here.
Jeff (06:39):
But um, you get the online , the discord servers.
I mean, we can go on and on andon.
Oh man's on there.
Jared (06:44):
But this is cool because it's $11.
It's $11 on Steam.
Jason (06:47):
We have a pro driver here , that's wild that didn't start
on iRacing, because most of themeither start on iRacing or they
start on a different, like youare very.
You got me intrigued now.
So if we're ready to, so youstarted with a setup.
What about your rig?
If we're ready to, so youstarted with a settle.
What about your rig?
You said you made.
You mentioned the, the thrustmaster on a on a wooden setup.
Jared (07:12):
And how did that change?
Man, walk, walk us through.
Yeah, it was a really roughfirst setup.
It was kind of just a desk likebig enough for the T300.
I think it's.
I think that's what it was.
But I'd set it in front of mytv and just on xbox play a set,
of course, and uh, rip thenerver green and eventually I
got a um, I think it's a nextlevel racing rig okay that was.
Jason (07:35):
That was a step up um is that the one that had the, the
leather seat on it?
Yeah, and I had the same rig,did you really?
It was like a thousand dollarsor something like that no, is
this a fold one?
Jared (07:49):
no it was it was a stationary, but it was.
I mean, it was only a couplehundred bucks no mine, was a
thousand.
Jason (07:55):
It had had caster wheels on it.
Oh, mine wasn't that nice, okay.
Okay, we're talking 2019.
Yeah, so probably, this wasprobably way back then.
Um, so, then you.
So then you change to that andyep, and is is that, what is
that what we're running stilltoday?
Or what are we running today?
Jared (08:16):
sir.
Um, so right now I have thetony kanon from you know special
from micro center.
Um, it's just aluminumextrusion solid, solid rig.
I don't really have anything tocomplain about it.
And then I got asetek and victapedals.
I pre-ordered them and then,whenever they came out with the
pedals that you could separate,I was so mad because I was like
that's, my only complaint isthat you can't adjust how far
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apart they are.
Oh, they're fixed yeah, andthen semi-cube two there you go.
Semi-cube for the win that's theway to go, and then that's the
way to go.
Jason (08:49):
Thank you, bro, that's awesome.
Jared (08:50):
I love semi-cube I love semi-cube too.
Jason (08:52):
And then for the wheel, I have a bunch different wheels
have you guys heard of uhpicorny engineering yes, the,
the 3d printed, the ones thatyou can make yourself, and
they're like oh, this guy'slegit.
Uh, you know, so you've madeone yourself.
Jared (09:06):
Oh, I've made it.
Yeah, I've made a couple ofthem oh, dude, this is what I'm
eventually.
Jeff (09:11):
I want to do that.
Jared (09:12):
I think that it's so rewarding I mean you can if
you're really doing it right.
Uh, you can end up putting alot of money into it.
Jason (09:20):
Defeats the purpose if you're doing it right.
Yeah, use a straight dump.
I mean, we got 3D printingmachines now and that was kind
of what motivated me to.
I think Jeff too I mean Jeffand I, we were always looking at
damn man, if I can just printthis, then maybe we can just
order the circuit board and justput it all together, right, yep
, and you know you can yeah, goahead, you can learn to make
(09:43):
your own circuit boards.
Jared (09:44):
You know, for that kind of stuff, the button boxes, it's
super easy.
Jason (09:55):
KeyCAD's free, which is a CAD software for making circuit
boards, which is something I'vebeen learning how to do, so
I'll tell you this.
I know this interview is aboutJared, but I have to shout him
out here.
Jeff (10:09):
Jeff's son has taken Tinkercad to another level,
where jeff, I need to let youhave this you need.
Yeah, so I'll just, man, Ithink, once a week I give.
So I taught him how to use amicrometer, um, some calipers,
um in, uh, in millimeters,because we didn't go into inches
, because you know it's seven.
Fractions are difficult.
I hate fractions.
Jared (10:24):
Yeah, yeah, even at like I don't know why we use
fractions, bro, so I give them.
Jeff (10:29):
I just give a random object like a mug, and I'll say,
go upstairs, and you know, andhe runs up the stairs and I'm
like, oh, we're gonna have peaceand quiet for like two hours,
dad, I'm done.
And I'm like 20 minutes laterand we measure it.
He gets it down to like youknow the millimeter, you know
the diameter is where the handleis.
Yeah, so he loves it.
It's the way of the future.
(10:50):
These kids now like elementaryschool, middle school kids, now
that's, they're gonna live adifferent life yep, no, cad's
super important to learn.
Jared (10:57):
I mean, you can do so much stuff with it, like a lot
of the stuff I have on my rigI've I've built Like I mean, how
are you going to mount your USBhub?
How are you going to mount yourpower strips?
So we're friends now right,jared, we're friends.
Jason (11:08):
Right Because we're going to ask for some STLs.
Jared (11:11):
You know maybe oh yeah, no, I have tons man and I'm
working on making some buttonboxes.
This is so cool man.
I love this community.
Look at this.
You know this is so cool.
We'll do it whenever I startmaking button boxes and get
those finished.
Admittedly, I've been workingat DDU for about a year but the
(11:32):
USB hub circuitry in it becauseit has a vocore, it's been
taking a bit too long becauseI'm not an electrical engineer,
I'm just some guy with CAD andYouTube.
But whenever I get the buttonboxes done I'll send you guys
something.
You guys can test them out thatwould be awesome.
Jason (11:48):
We'll feature them here on the show for sure, if you
ever think about putting up likea shop too.
We can feature that here aswell, all day.
Jared (11:55):
So yeah, I, I technically have one now.
Jason (11:57):
It's really just a few small things, nothing too
serious, we'll drop a link below, of course, man all right if
you, if you allow us to do that,and the viewers might be
interested and see what you'reworking on.
Jeff (12:08):
Um yeah, I think if it works for like a 4000 I rating
iracer, probably works foreverybody else.
Just that's just a generalassessment yeah, 4000 is nothing
.
Jared (12:21):
uh, yeah, bro, that easy it is kind of the Pokorny
engineering approach where Ijust tell you the 3D files I
have build, guides, show you howto put it all together, how to
program it.
But yeah, eventually I'd liketo team up with Simmons by
Razors and sell physicalproducts like button boxes,
whenever I get to that point inTDUs.
Jason (12:41):
Oh, that will be.
Jared (12:42):
Eventually steering wheels.
That's my next.
That's the kind of that's.
Jason (12:45):
The goal is to make steering wheels so, before we
move on to the next question, uh, we just did a podcast about
the debrief of the sim gamingexpo and we mentioned this.
This is how people begin, um,you know, is is having the idea
in your head and the skill setto make something that works for
you.
And then you find makesomething that works for you,
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and then you find out that itworks for thousands of other
drivers.
So I wish you nothing but luckwith that and I can't wait to
see it.
Man, we'll check that out, youknow, after we, after we wrap up
here.
So, jeff, I think you have thenext question.
Jeff (13:19):
Brother, yeah, so um, you've been in it for what?
Six, seven years now doingiRacing?
Jared (13:30):
What is your class you race the most?
Now it's GTPs.
I used to race a lot of GT4s.
That's kind of how I got towhere I'm at Still a bit behind
on my iRacing, if I'm beinghonest.
Jeff (13:42):
So what is it if you don't mind?
Just so you can tell theaudience.
So if people don't know you,don't mind, just so you can tell
the audience.
So if people don't know you,it's just 4k flat right now, but
okay all right it needs.
Jared (13:50):
It needs some work because I know I can get to five
.
It's just.
I just need to do officials.
Jason (13:54):
That's the biggest thing I I've been doing so many
leagues and just yes, yes, rightso so I'm, I fluctuate between
1.9, 2k, 1.9, 2k, and then it'skind of like I do more league
racing than anything.
So I hear you, there's a lot ofguys like that that are just
low-key.
Jared (14:14):
The league racing is so good, it's so respectful, it's
more respect.
You have your moments, but it'sracing, but it just seems to be
so clean.
Jason (14:29):
It's hard to.
Once you catch that that bug,it's hard to get out of.
Yeah, because you know the guysthere, you know the driving
habits, you know the, you knowthe characters and you get to
meet up with them and it's kindof like you're you're, you're
meeting up on the track day withthem in real life, but you're
actually in the sim, that's.
That's kind of what it's like.
You jump in an official race,you don't know what is, who is
next to you, you don't knowwhat's going on, like yep well,
you're gonna see them again nextweek too, right, if it gets.
Jeff (14:48):
If you did something you're not proud of, you're
gonna make amends before thenext week, because you know
you're gonna have to see themagain yep and the life
stewarding and penalties aremuch better in leagues for the
most part.
Jason (14:59):
I mean, you know and the name of this league, by the way,
since.
So we're talking about leagues,so it's ivra um okay and
endurance they have a discordand everything that we can link
here.
Oh yeah, so tell us a little.
Jeff (15:13):
I mean, now that we're on here, tell us a little bit about
it.
So you said it was endurance.
You know what?
You know what type of uh eventsyou guys doing?
Jared (15:19):
so it's classic it's classic, uh, msa style.
So gs, lmp2s, gt3s.
This is going to be my firsttime running it and it's kind of
a I don't know what the correctadjective is, but kind of
prestigious league where to raceGTPs you have to be a minimum
of 4K iRating and then, even ifyou are, that doesn't mean
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you're going to get in theleague.
So we have qualifying thisSaturday and I have to do well
enough in qualifying to be ableto be in the league.
Jason (15:53):
wow, okay yeah, they don't have time for that.
You know, gtps are dangerous,bro.
That's like those are formulaone speeds.
You know, basically the same.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying toget.
I'm trying to talk to jeff toget him in.
That too.
I'm like, hey man you mightlike gt.
You know, basically the sameyeah.
Jared (16:04):
That's what I'm trying to get.
Jason (16:05):
I'm trying to talk to Jeff to get him in.
That too I'm like hey, man, youmight like TTP.
You know, TTP is crazy.
Jeff (16:11):
I don't think the average person, like if you just, you
know, like somebody that doesn'tdo iRacing and they were to
watch that event, I don't thinkthey understand the level of
commitment and talent that youguys have in there doing that
type of stuff.
It's just not going to lookimpressive.
You know, like if you look atformula one from an outside
perspective, you're like, oh,the guys going, they're fast,
(16:33):
but yeah, like once you know alittle bit and you're like, dude
, no, like that's stupidimpressive oh yeah, and there's
still guys like that that I lookup to.
Jared (16:41):
I mean, I've been coaching with jordan johnson and
he makes it just seem so easy.
I'm just like I don't know how.
I don't know how you guys areable to do that.
You know what I mean.
Jeff (16:50):
Like there's there's so many levels to it yeah that wild
jason like yeah, that's crazywe look at jared as like the
dude, and then there's a dudethat he looks up to as the dude.
That's wild.
Jason (17:04):
That's usually how it goes.
It's just we don't put ittogether right all the time.
But yeah, that's usually how itgoes, man.
So, now that we're talkingabout leagues and we're talking
about you know, you actuallymade a drastic move up the chain
, right, you went from a settlein the iRacing.
(17:24):
Now we find out that you'retrying to get into gt, that
you're trying to qualify forthis gtp league.
Um, when, when did when?
Did you realize?
Hey, I'm, you know, I have pace, I'm good enough to to compete
at, you know, at a pro level,like how did that?
How did you?
How did you realize that?
Jared (17:46):
um, honestly, it was uh, back when I was racing gt4s and
I don't feel like I'm able torace at like a pro level, like
we're pretty good, but, um,everyone says this, but keep
going, but uh, I believe it is.
Jeff (18:02):
You know, you run into other people.
You're like Keep going.
Jared (18:04):
We've heard this before.
Yeah, daniel Morris, justcontinue.
I believe it.
Jason (18:08):
You run into other people and you're like that's the
thing about sim racers we don'treally brag about ourselves, we
brag about other people.
We never really brag aboutourselves, you know what.
I mean.
But there's a lot of respecthere, so I'll let you continue.
Jared (18:23):
I appreciate it.
Yeah, like back when I wasracing GT4s.
You know my teammate back atthe time it was a different team
, he was like 6K or pushing it.
He eventually was 6K but beingas close, like I was never on
pace with him.
I'll just put that out thereright now.
(18:43):
I was never on pace, but likehow close I was consistently to
him.
Jeff (18:52):
I was like, okay, you know , I might, I might be onto
something.
So, if you don't mind me,asking from you to him from a
four slash five to a six, whatis pace?
What's the difference in pace?
Jared (19:02):
back then.
So I think I was 3k to 3.5 okayback then and it was like
anywhere from two and a halftenths to half a second,
sometimes more.
I mean sometimes, you know, Ihad my bad days.
He never had his bad days.
But okay.
Jason (19:20):
So a tenth to me is to me , because all right, let's
compare right.
Look at Formula One drivers.
We as fans, we give them a hardtime, especially Lance Stroll
that's my favorite one,especially Lance Lowe that guy
is.
But then you can't.
(19:40):
When you look at the time boardand they're literally split by
tenths of a second and you'retelling me that you're a tenth
slower in some corners orwhatever, on some tracks or
whatever, that tells me that youhave the pace of a 6K driver
that you have it.
Jared (19:59):
Well, I wouldn't say that I think I can get to 5K Come on
man.
Jason (20:02):
You need to give yourself a little more credit, bro.
That's how I feel about it.
Jared (20:06):
I need to start doing officials, more officials, and I
think my confidence will boostup.
Jason (20:11):
It's hard to stand out in iRacing because the higher you
go, when something happens onthe track they penalize you hard
.
I have a friend that's part ofour SRC team.
He's a 4K like yourself andwhenever he hits a streak of two
races there'll be a bad race.
Somebody hit him and they take120 iR for him.
(20:34):
Like, like, like that, like ina snap and like, damn, it's like
that and it's like, yeah, dude,if you, it's really hard to
maintain that number.
You know, the higher you go, soI had that happen recently.
Jared (20:43):
I was at uh road atlanta and I was like I was up to like
4.2k and then one race.
It was just cold tires.
Someone just spun in front ofme, didn't have anywhere to go
and just into the race lost like130.
Jeff (20:59):
Well, that Right, because I-rating help me out here,
because I-rating doesn't seeyour safety rating.
It just sees flat out fromwhere you started to where you
finished in your strength offield.
Jason (21:09):
Grid positioning Yep.
Jeff (21:10):
That's all.
It is Binary number.
Yep, you started to where youfinished in your strength of
field grid positioning yepbinary number.
Jason (21:13):
Yep, like you're expected to do, so well if your strength
of field is at level, at yourlevel you need the field is two.
Jeff (21:22):
Yeah, mine's like two, seven thousand four.
Jason (21:26):
Stop it.
No, it's way too low.
But you know what I'm saying?
Your strength of field.
It determines where thestrength of field right, the
strength of everybody's eyerating and their safety.
So there's a certainexpectation from you to be
placed somewhere.
It doesn't matter how good youquality, it doesn't matter how
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safe you were, they're going tohammer you if you don't do well
in the race.
That's what happens at thehigher end of the spectrum.
If you're not on the podium,bro, we're taking those numbers
away from you.
Don't deserve it.
I kind of like that, though,because that means when you meet
somebody that is a 9K driver,which I've met before, 7k, 8k,
(22:08):
which I've met before 7K, 8kthat's a lot of dedication to
have that number and to keep it.
You know it's like a champion,right, it's like boxing.
You can be the heavyweightchampion, but if you don't
defend your title, you'renothing.
You know what I mean, and assoon as somebody knocks you out,
they're taking all the titlesaway.
Everybody forgets about you.
Jared (22:32):
Yep, like the guy who I'm getting coaching from Jordan
johnson.
He's um, I think he's like 8.2,8.3 right now, but he was.
He was telling me about umracing officials and he was like
, yeah, if I don't get first orsecond, I'm losing in some races
.
Like if I don't win, I lose Irating.
Jeff (22:46):
Yep, yeah, so let me ask, kind of dovetailed onto this
when you walk in, when you, youknow, when you roll into an
official, do you have?
I don't want to say youprobably don't know any
different people race you harder?
Because, I see it, I look, I'mlike oh shit, like that's a 4k
dude.
I want to try to keep up.
I want to.
(23:14):
You know, uh, you know, I wantto compete with him.
You know, people kind of racebeyond their skill level.
Uh, well, I don't, I don't knowhow to, unless you're racing
only a classes, you know.
If you're not, you know,dabbling into the lower classes
well, usually no, no, no.
Jared (23:26):
I don't like the a classes honestly, like c and d
has some amazing racing, but, um, no, it's kind of just
interesting skill.
If you can just get away,you're fine, because there's
usually that gap between, kindof the midfield and the front of
the field and if you can justpull away, if you're able to,
you just get away that first lap, keep it clean hell yeah, man,
(23:48):
that's what's up with all theall the smurfs.
It makes it kind of hard toanswer that question honestly,
because you'll have, you know,1.6k guy who's like on your butt
and you're like, oh god, yeah,you don't know you.
Jason (23:59):
You never know, dude, who's out there.
That's, that's, that's facts.
Like you go into a rookie raceand you expect nothing but
rookies to be there, and thenyou find this freaking, yeah
yeah this monster in there.
You're like what's going on,what are we doing?
Yep, all right.
So that kind of sums up yourpath right up to the.
You know your path to 4k andand how to maintain it, so we'll
(24:24):
move on right.
Uh, jeff, I got the next one.
Jared (24:26):
Yeah, go ahead, I got one more thing to kind of add to
that.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
I feel like the racing getscleaner as you move up.
I feel like that when you'retrying to get to that 2K, it's
so like I'm willing to risk itall, whereas those top guys,
they don't want to crash.
You can't finish first if youdon't finish.
Jeff (24:50):
This is good to know.
Jason (24:51):
It is a bit cleaner so this is a good for me.
Right, because I'm in the 2kzone and I have people sending,
sending cars.
Still they're relatively safe.
Right, because they're fast.
You know the problem.
The problem with the lower tieruh I rating is their braking
points are off and you caneasily smash the back of the car
(25:12):
because you're not expectinghim to break this early.
It's like this is way too early.
You know what I mean, at leastwhere I'm at, the braking is
predictable and we can drivepretty close together at speed.
But yes, we have those unsungheroes, the, the, you know the
crazy, the crazy guy that wantsto win the race at all costs
(25:34):
those dudes that drive fast andbreak late.
Jeff (25:36):
There you go, those guys the sickos.
Jared (25:39):
We call them the sickos, yeah I think what helped me get
from three to four k was justrealizing if, if you just let
this guy go like he's being waytoo aggressive, I'm just gonna
let him go sit behind him.
He's gonna make a mistakeeventually.
You know he's over, way tooaggressive, I'm just going to
let him go sit behind him.
He's going to make a mistakeEventually.
You know he's overdriving hiscar, just do just sit back, like
you don't have to race someonecorner for corner.
Like just let them pass.
(25:59):
They're going to make a mistakeCause they're driving like
crazy, so just pay.
Jason (26:04):
They're overheating the tire there.
The car is quickly and yeah,you, just you get to watch them.
You know, lose it and get themright there I don't know
especially especially at the endof the race.
Jared (26:15):
You know their tires.
Yeah, you get them right there.
Jason (26:17):
The tires are cooked, bro .
You're like oh okay, I see youstruggling now.
Yeah, that's what's up, man.
So all right, we'll move on tothe next one, man it's good, so
this kind of ties into that.
Jeff (26:28):
So, uh, what's something that you would tell?
You know the average racerthat's looking to improve their
I rating or just get faster tofocus on.
Jared (26:37):
Stop overdriving, stop focusing so much on breaking
points I mean not breakingpoints, but the entry of a
corner really nailed down, theexit and mid speed like the
minimum speed of the apex.
If you can get that down down,the braking just going to be
what it is.
Don't try and push the car intothe corner because it's going
to overheat and I do this, I'mstill, you know, working on this
(26:59):
um but you'll overheat yourfront so you won't have that mid
, uh, mid corner speed andyou'll lose.
On exit, you know your linesgonna be messed up because you
you slam the brakes way too late.
Jason (27:10):
So there you go, guys.
We got some free professionaladvice here, yeah so hey, listen
, I got the man here.
Jeff (27:15):
I'm gonna ask a couple follow-up questions so I can get
past here.
Everybody else could take acommercial break here, but I
want to.
So you're talking about, youknow, the apex.
You know, find the ape, thespeed that you can take the apex
at fastest.
Is that what you're you'rereally talking about here?
Jared (27:31):
It's making sure, like optimizing your exits, first and
foremost, with the correct lineand then kind of working that
speed up until you're on thelimit while still getting those
perfect exits, and then you canwork on the braking.
Jason (27:48):
I agree with jared.
Sometimes it's better tosacrifice a corner to get the
better exit and point the carstraight.
That way you can get quicker onthe throttle.
That's what.
That's basically what he'ssaying.
Um, well, it's.
It's great to talk about it,jeff, but we don't always do
that right.
Jeff (28:05):
I have the best intentions I've got the best we know this,
right, jared.
Jared (28:10):
You're like yeah, I know this is still something that I
do.
I'm still like, hey, dudeyou're, you're overdriving the
car right now.
Like reel it back in yeah, I'll, yeah, I'll lift and coast.
If I'm, if I'm catching it Imean not in officials, but like
if and during practice I'llnotice I'm like, all right,
you're gonna.
You're just gonna coast intothe corner and just focus on the
exit get that muscle memorydown.
Jason (28:30):
Okay, this is great advice, and you know what it's,
advice that I agree with ahundred percent, because we talk
about dry fast and break late.
But you know, we you want totug and cheek.
Yes, it's give and take Right,but I guess we'll move on to the
next one which I have here, andnow that we got your history
(28:51):
down, um, we know where you camefrom and now we get to talk
about the fun stuff you knowtell us about, uh, team impact,
sim sport, like how does whattell us everything about it?
Jared (29:05):
so everything they're probably gonna to hate me.
I'm a bit new to the team, sokeep that in mind.
But we do a lot of leagues andspecial events is kind of the
main thing.
Jason (29:19):
Okay.
Jared (29:20):
I don't know if you met him.
Corbin Lenaway is our team boss.
We had a booth at the Expo.
I might have.
I thought I saw that shirt,dude, we were all over the place
at the expo I mean so much fun.
Jason (29:34):
Yeah, it was amazing, dude, but I'm pretty sure we did
.
I think we, I think we didshake hands at one point.
Jared (29:39):
Yes, yep, kind of a.
He had the glasses blonde.
Kind of ugly looking guy, shots, fired shots fired no, he was.
Uh, he was actually roomingwith me at at the expo.
Jason (29:52):
So we, we bumped I like this guy bro so jared, you're
good on my book bro so now now Ican say I was with the team
boss?
Jared (30:05):
no, he's, he's a good guy , you know we're straight, uncut
and unfiltered in here.
Jason (30:08):
I hope you know this is good, I was I was.
Jared (30:10):
I was hoping I would stay in like they'll get a good
laugh out of that yeah, good,good, but um, no, I actually
came over.
Um, I've raced on a differentteam with one of the guys that
we came over with who was doingthe um, the gt3s, the gt3 race
okay, I'm blanking on the nameof it but um, him and I came
over and then it's just kind ofit's been, it's been nice
(30:31):
because I was on a european teambefore and the time zone
difference, like you know, you'dcome home, get off of work and
everyone be asleep and you'rejust like, all right, I'll
practice alone.
So being on an american-basedteam is is really nice, like I
mean, we had like 10 guys onthere earlier, just practicing
yeah it was a lot of fun.
Jason (30:49):
Group group practicing is the best.
It's the best because you, whenyou're by yourself, you have no
one.
It's kind of like when you goto the gym, right, you go to the
gym and you want to.
You want to be an athlete, youwant to not an athlete, you want
to be a bodybuilder, but youdon't have a spotter to push you
more, to get you to do more.
You you're just going to driveyour comfort, drive your laps
(31:09):
and then that's it.
But when you have people, yousee that lap times they're doing
.
You're like man, what am Idoing?
Jared (31:16):
I got another 10th in me.
Jason (31:18):
There you go, yes there, it is right there, exactly.
That's awesome yeah.
Jared (31:24):
I hate seeing number two, so how did you find?
Jason (31:27):
them?
How did you find them?
I know you, you came from aeuropean team, right, yeah?
And how did you end up with uh,with team impact, like how did
you?
Did you apply for it or didthey find?
Jared (31:40):
you, or not really.
So I think d mills, uh, one ofthe guys, the guy that came over
with, uh, daniel mills, he knewcorbin in some way and he was
like, hey, we got a bunch ofAmericans that are looking for a
new team.
Okay, they're kind of that eyereading you're looking for.
And yeah, yeah just just kindof happened to be honest with
(32:01):
you, is there a tryout?
No, no, not, not for, not forus.
Just kind of I got lucky, youknow, knowing the right people
being in the right place, righttime.
To be honest with you.
Jason (32:13):
Okay, you know I'm a free agent.
You know there's no tryout, youknow.
Jared (32:20):
Let me know Our practice sessions are open.
I'm hosting them every singleday besides Thursday.
Well, I guess it's justtomorrow now, but Thursday,
Friday, we have the officialpractice sessions, but I'll be
hosting.
Jason (32:30):
Okay, that's cool.
Yeah, yeah, do you stream themtoo?
Jared (32:34):
no, I'm dude.
I don't have the brain power toread, chat and stream.
Yes, you do, bro dude.
Jason (32:40):
I I'm dyslexic dude, so I like I have to sit there and I
used to feel the same way andthen I just kind of learned how
to do it.
I don't know.
Jeff (32:48):
You just read them on the straights bro just try to remain
, keep uh trying to get to fivethousand, five thousand I read I
know I'm reading no tech he'scaring about the chat.
Jared (32:57):
He's focused on track and then you see, like streamers
who are, you know, really reallyfast just casually just looking
over and reading while they'redriving, I don't get it.
Jeff (33:06):
That's, that's another level okay, I'm already thinking
like, hey, he's making me feelgood.
Now what's my?
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Okay.
Jeff (33:49):
So I got to follow on Jason here, so you know what's
some of the events that you andyour team or you just you in
general are focusing on up herecoming up in the near future.
Jared (33:59):
Ifra is the biggest one.
Jeff (34:00):
Um, I've been prepping my ass off for that and I still
feel well, tell us a little bitabout it if you don't mind,
cause not everybody's probablygoing to know.
Jared (34:08):
Um, so it's that, um, that league where you have to be
4k to raise gtps and then oh,oh, oh the one you mentioned
earlier.
Jeff (34:15):
The tryout one got you yep , so the season starts here soon
yep pre-qualifying saturdayit's a two-hour race at uh the
bend dude, I'm so sorry we'retaking time away from you right
now doing this recording.
Jared (34:28):
You're good.
I it's late enough in theevening my mind's kind of gone.
I was on for two hours, thislike after work, so we're good
okay, okay have you guys?
Have you guys raced the bin?
Jeff (34:39):
I have not.
No, no, it doesn't usually comeup in formula it is worth the
drive.
Jared (34:44):
It is so much fun.
The bend international it's somuch fun okay, I don't know.
Jason (34:49):
We might do a track of the week on that too.
Jared (34:51):
Okay, that's fair.
Jason (34:51):
Take note of that.
There you go.
Jared (34:53):
But, I don't know how multi-class is going to go on
that, I've heard it's.
I heard it's all right, butI've also heard it's horrible.
Jeff (35:04):
So we'll find out.
Yeah, we'll find out soonenough, right, or how does that
work out?
Jared (35:08):
I think it's about once a month.
Jeff (35:09):
Okay, so you get some time to practice on it.
Jared (35:13):
Yeah, I mean I'll definitely need it because I'll
probably be one of the lowestranked people in there.
Jason (35:17):
Dude, you got to let us know.
I need to update the show onhow you turned out.
We want to know if you made it.
If you didn't make it, what'sgoing on?
Man, if you want to share, youknow, yeah, if you tell me hey,
I didn't make it.
And, by the way, don't sayanything, I'll be like okay.
Jeff (35:32):
It'd be cool if you guys stream that.
Jason (35:34):
I'd jump in there to watch that.
Jeff (35:35):
I would love to watch this man.
Jason (35:36):
And the community would probably be ecstatic.
I mean, by the time they watchthis, you're already qualified,
because I'm pretty sure you'regoing to qualify, I'm pretty
(35:58):
sure you're going.
That already happened, bro.
So when you get to see this,you can be like oh yeah, that's
my past self like flipping outor nervous about the event and I
had no problem.
Jeff (36:02):
When I came in p3, I came in there and I killed it bro,
yeah, yep and I passed the shitout of my ugly.
Jared (36:05):
Ass.
Boss, he's in gt, he's racinggt3, so I'll be passing him good
man.
Don't hit him, though, forwhatever reason, because oh no,
and and they, uh, they judge youbased on racecraft too.
So even if you, you know,finish p5, if you're crashing
into the gt3s, you're not goingto get invited to the league so
okay makes sense, racing mattersyeah, it's a big responsibility
(36:29):
with the faster car.
Jason (36:30):
We've always said that on the show, because there's a
slower car and being in thefaster car means you can
maneuver around the slower carand that's your responsibility
with the faster car.
Jared (36:41):
That's hands down 100%, and as long as the slow car just
stays on its racing line, I'llfigure it out.
Jason (36:47):
Just if you're a slow car , be predictable when you have a
screaming machine behind you donot make any sudden movements,
don't try and get out of our way, that's yes, if you're gonna
situation this is the same wesay.
You know and and jeff mightrecognize if you're wrong, stay
wrong.
If you're wrong, stay wrong.
Jeff (37:05):
Do not try to correct it, because you're gonna I'm used to
the guy that's just staying inmy lane and yep, yeah, yeah, I'm
good at that there's some nastygtp drivers out there too yeah,
man, I would.
Jason (37:18):
I mean I can, I can drive them.
I'm not sure if I'm fast, fastin them, but I can drive them.
And they are scary sometimeswhen you have slower cars
because they're moving so slow,bro, like yeah, it's like a
standing still there.
There we were on road america.
We did a six-hour race and wedid the.
We took the mustang uh gt3 outand there was freaking gtps
(37:40):
there and you know that I don'tknow the name of the turn or
what number it would have been.
You know what I'm talking about.
That right hand turn that isflat out in a GTP.
Oh, turn one.
No, it's not turn one, it'safter.
It's Road America, not Atlanta.
Jared (37:55):
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of Road
Atlanta.
I might have said Road Atlanta.
You know what I'm?
Jason (38:00):
talking about the one after the big, the big, the big.
After that big, and then it's amassive straight after that.
You know how fast the gtp isgoing.
Yeah, and we're over there likein fifth gear.
Jared (38:17):
You guys are like it's.
Yeah, it's always frustratingcatching a gt3 at that corner
too, because you're like I knowI can't you can't overtake a lot
of time, yeah yeah, and youcan't overtake on the inside,
that's just reckless.
I mean, you can, but you shoulddepend on the situation.
Jeff (38:31):
You really he's like you really shouldn't that's super
frustrating because you'vereally, you know, given a lot of
time on that lap, lifting oversome, because then it's straight
into, like you were saying,straight into that, straight
away, where you're, oh yeah,sacrificing time.
That's frustrating.
Jared (38:44):
I can see that sometimes if I, if I know I'm gonna catch
him at that corner, I'll justlift coming out of the the uh,
previous corner.
I don't know what number it is,but that big, long,
right-hander Right.
Jason (38:56):
So you lift.
I mean, that's so what you know.
To keep the story quick andshort, um, one of our drivers
lost the car.
It was, you know, and he wasliterally sideways and a GTP was
coming and he was, and a GTPwas coming and he was.
It was a P1, he was the P1 GTPguy.
Yes, bro, and this guy, he seesour car in the middle of the
(39:25):
road right and he decides to getoff the grass to pass.
I don't know why he did.
I don't know why he does this,but our driver is thinking I
need to get off the race line,right, because I'm on the race
line, cars are coming throughhere, let me back this car up.
So we kind of backed into theP1 of a GT.
His car flipped a hundredmillion times.
(39:46):
We got a lot of hate mail and,yeah, that was like the story of
that race, six hours gone.
It's a learning experience.
But hearing from you that youwould lift, especially knowing
when there's a yellow flag, whywouldn't you lift?
Why didn't you slow down alittle, knowing that there's a
yellow flag approaching, whichwas my?
(40:08):
I don't know, but I thinkthat's cool, man.
I think that's cool that youacknowledge what I just said,
and that's that you hold thebigger responsibility over the
other cars because you're in thefaster car.
That's, that's gospel.
Jared (40:21):
A hundred percent.
Jason (40:22):
All right, so let's move on to the next question here.
Um, you know where do you seemost people here?
Um, you know where do you seemost people you know to have
improvement in, like in racing,like where?
Where?
Give me your honest thoughts.
I mean, I know you mentionedabout, you know, the, the
entering corners and stuff likethat, but how do we, how do we
(40:43):
get to a 4k, like, how do we dothat?
Jared (40:45):
you know, I think a lot of it is.
It's really hard to do and Istill struggle with it.
But just being honest withyourself, like, yeah, dude, I, I
messed that up Like this isthis is why I crashed, you know.
Analyze your telemetry data.
Data doesn't lie, you know.
So look at the telemetry data.
Be honest with yourself.
Say, hey, I am overdriving thiscar.
Jason (41:13):
I can feel it under right , you know a lot, so and I'm
triggering abs when I shouldn't.
You know stuff like that.
Yeah, I know, if I trigger abs,I know I'm already.
I'm already off the off thepace if, if that's happening to
me, that's like the indicatorfirst one, I use.
Jared (41:23):
So, yeah, and the biggest thing is like when you get in a
as far as racecraft goes, it'sthe same thing, it's just
honesty like before you get onthe mic and you know, cuss this
guy out or send him a nastymessage like watch that replay,
my favorite part.
When they do that, was itreally his fault?
Because I've had that whereI've crashed out and I got so
mad.
And then you go back and lookat the replay.
It's like that was actually myfault.
(41:44):
That was I.
I messed that up, and thataccountability is kind of what
helps you progress.
I think it's a big part of it.
Jeff (41:50):
Yeah, I learned that a while.
You know, I was like man, whatyou know, that dude took me out.
And then you watch the replaylike yeah, you know it wasn't
really my corner, was it?
yeah, yeah, it was his corneryeah so I think there's.
That's a great point, though Ithink that there's something to
be said about, you know, takingownership, and I think nim cross
(42:11):
really alluded to.
I think that there's somethingto be said about taking
ownership, and I think Nimcrossreally alluded to it.
It was like, hey, people needto be, and that's why he's such
a stickler for the high cost tosafety when you crash.
Jason (42:21):
Yep, he was mentioning that too.
We had a wreck in a 24-hourevent.
We did, and it wasn't our fault, but then we didn't.
You need to kind of visualizewhat's happening in front of you
, kind of like what you saidearlier about being patient.
So we saw these two cars doingthis and trying to pass each
(42:41):
other and we're hammered downbehind them and they crashed and
we ended up hitting thembecause there's nowhere to go
and it's the Nurburgring, whichis a fast.
That's a tricky one.
Yeah, it's a fast track, youknow.
Jared (43:01):
Um, so I, I, you know, I appreciate that, that's, that's
real talk, is to own yourself.
I, I, I a hundred percent agree.
Yeah, stay the student you know, stay the student constantly
looking for stuff to improve on,cause we we all have stuff we
can be better at.
So find those things, look forthem.
Look at your telemetry data,watch your replays.
There you go.
Jason (43:19):
All right.
So, jeff, you got the next onebrother.
Jeff (43:23):
So speaking of getting faster, practice is obviously
clearly very important, butwhat's one piece of gear that's
critical for you to be fast andit's enabled you to be fast okay
, that's a great question pedals, pedals, pedals why?
Without for those out there,why?
Jared (43:40):
um.
So with the ace of tech andvictors is they're very, very
stiff and I feel I never got areal consistency or speed boost
from when I got the direct drivewheel.
People like to say that I eh,but the pedals allow you to be
so much more consistent whenyou're, instead of with the
(44:01):
brake, trying to figure out whatposition, what angle your
foot's at, versus how much forceyou're putting into it.
It's a lot easier to replicatethat time and time again and you
gain a lot of consistency fromthat okay so pedals yep, so
pedals with the uh strengthbeing the brake pedal.
Jason (44:23):
That's, that's where we're, that's where we're fast
is the brake pedal, which ishard to say right, but the brake
pedal is speed, the brake pedalis your beginner.
Jeff (44:32):
It's really hard to understand somebody says, yeah,
the fastest thing you do is geta good break they're like what?
Jared (44:38):
and?
It's more consistency, becauseonce you can shrink that and
become way more consistent, youcan get up to that limit a lot
more often than you can.
If you know, you're way outhere, I can't even show it on
camera, but you guys know whatI'm saying, I know what you're
saying, brother.
Jason (44:53):
All right, so you know, I guess.
General question, man, likeyou've been sim racing for
longer than us, where do you seeit headed?
You know, like we did the expo.
The expo was awesome, it wasgreat.
It was great hanging out withyou.
That was like a good time, man,we had it was.
Jared (45:11):
You know?
Shout out to George too.
I have, I can't.
I can go on.
I could spend a whole hourtalking about how good of a guy
that is, but I just want toshout out you should have had
jared on the debrief man.
Yeah, next time.
Jason (45:25):
Oh, yeah, yeah did you guys do another debrief.
I'll be back there next yeartoo, so oh no, you're a friend
of the show already.
Jared (45:28):
Trust me that's already been established.
I like it yeah.
Jason (45:32):
So where do you see the hobby right sim racing headed
two to five years, like where doyou?
What are your overall thoughtson that?
Jared (45:41):
um, I've really been enjoying seeing a lot of the
formula one guys get.
I mean, show you know theirexperience with sim racing.
I feel like it's really goingto be a tool to help bridge that
pay gap to get into racing,because I mean, yeah, gear is
expensive, but you don't, youknow, you don't need what I have
.
Like you can, you know, there's7k guys who have that crappy
(46:03):
thing bolted to a desk, you know, yeah, and I think I think
that's going to be the biggestthing is decreasing that pay gap
to real world racing, becausewe can both agree that real real
life racing.
Jason (46:15):
I know, I know this is sim racing, but real life racing
has always had this barrierbetween do you have enough money
to race?
Or do you versus the skills torace, because there's a lot of
people that could do this, youknow, and a lot of people are
starting to realize that, oh,it's not just because they're
super humans, it's because a lotof people, you know, there's
humans that can actually do itmore.
Jared (46:37):
They just can't afford it , you know, but they can do it
you know, yep, exactly so yeah,I had a track bike for a little
bit and, dude I, I was young, Ievery spare penny I had went to
going to track days and doingthat.
But you, just you know you go.
Jason (46:51):
So you did, do, you did do track days?
Jared (46:54):
yeah, okay, on motorcycles, I had a cbr 600,
okay.
Jason (46:58):
I have a CBR 600 RR right now in my garage.
Jeff (47:02):
I had one, I sold it.
Jason (47:03):
There you go, and I used to track it up in California
back in the day Okay, what yearis it?
Jared (47:10):
That's a 13, 2013.
That's the same one I had.
That's the same one I tracked.
See, I love this guy already.
Jeff (47:15):
Yeah, good man.
Jason (47:16):
That's a good bike, honda .
Jared (47:21):
yeah, good man that's a good bike, honda guy too, and
it's.
It's the tri-color version.
You know which one?
The red, the red, blue, the red, white, white.
Jason (47:26):
I same one I had, I mean, yeah, mine's puerto rican just
so you know, it's you know Ihave to come on, I mean fair
enough, you can tell that yoursis american, yeah mine's is a
little just more obnoxious, youknow that's funny it's a lot
(47:48):
louder in the morning justbecause yeah you know, just
because it has the flags onthere, but uh, yeah, but I put a
power commander dude.
Jared (47:55):
That's a totally different conversation, bro dude
, we could go on about that,yeah but, um, yeah, I moved over
.
Jason (48:01):
I used to.
I started with q1s on that bikeand I used to track q3s when
they came out.
Remember the q3s?
Yep, yep, I I ran q3s for alittle bit I didn't have a tire
and half a day, jeff, there wasno more tire left.
Jared (48:15):
I had no more I made the expensive mistake of thinking I
could use them for two trackdays, and then no, you cannot,
bro, and I mean not, you cannotand I did the crazy thing of
trying to go back home with thetire.
Yeah, I found out the hard wayoh yeah, you go into that corner
and the bike just goes.
You're like, oh well, shit, I'msliding now.
Jason (48:35):
So I have taping up my lights and stuff I forgot to.
I'm on the road and I'm like,oh shit, I'm taking it off.
Jared (48:41):
Yeah, yeah good times, bro.
I full on.
Uh, I did so much.
I mean not so much, but I didsome weight reduction.
I ended up removing theradiator fan.
So anytime I was, you know,driving on the street because I
took headlights, taillights,turn indicator like it was a
full track bike.
It was a full track bike, yeah,every time I was track bike,
yeah Every time I was, you know,legally riding on the street.
(49:01):
Uh, I couldn't sit atstoplights for too long without
turning the bike off.
Jason (49:05):
Yeah, cause you overheat that to hell bro, hell yeah, all
right, so we were down to thelast question here and I think
Jeff's going to have the thehonors here.
Jeff (49:16):
Yeah, it's kind of similar to um, you know you?
You said you've uh tracked thebike.
Um, have you ever been in areal race car?
Jared (49:24):
Uh, nope, no, I would, I would like to.
Um, I could barely, I reallycouldn't at the time, but I did
somehow afford to do the trackbike, um, and know, everything's
twice as expensive with a car,if not more.
You know, double cylinders,double the wheels, double the
brakes.
So I've done, I've done anddouble the cost, if you ever
(49:46):
double that yes oh yeah, I meanjust rear sets.
You know, when you crash amotorcycle the rear sets are.
You know what?
A couple hundred bucks yeah,they're not bad.
Jason (49:55):
yeah, yeah, you can total them a lot easier, though you
total bike easier than a car.
Yeah, that's true you get somesliders.
She might flip around a littlebit, but hopefully she doesn't.
Yeah, because that's whatsliders do.
I've seen some bad things, somevery sad things, and you're
watching it in slow motion.
You see the bikes.
(50:15):
Oh yeah, ka-ching, ka-ching,ka-ching, ka-ching pinball dude
on the track.
Jeff (50:23):
I'm like, oh my god, you think you're gonna see.
You know kind of to that topic.
Do you think you're gonna seemore drivers real car, in real
life drivers coming up that havethe sim experience?
Jared (50:32):
oh yeah, 100.
I think we're already startingto see that kind of happen.
I mean shoot.
There's that whole movie aboutthe guy from gran trismo making
it into yes, that's real lifeyeah, yeah, that's real life,
it's already happening there's anascar guy too.
The I racing nascar um, yes, Ican't remember his name, but I
know exactly what you're talkingabout so wait a minute.
Jason (50:52):
Is this a dream of yours?
What if you got a shot today?
What if some?
What car are you jumping into?
Jeff (50:56):
if you had a chance to that, you would feel confident
enough to get to run some fastlaps.
Jason (51:00):
Are you getting into?
Gtp in real life.
Jared (51:02):
Hell.
No, I'm not physically fitenough Hell no.
No, my neck would be like a wetnoodle after two laps, if that.
I mean.
If I could, I think GT4s, orhonestly even the Miatas, would
be a lot of fun.
Okay, the Miatas.
I think just how close theracing is and that it's just,
(51:25):
it's hard to beat.
Jason (51:25):
I would do.
Jared (51:26):
GT4, dude.
Jeff (51:27):
But what yeah, but the Miata is a lot cheaper to fix
than the GT4.
Jason (51:31):
I mean, this is very true .
This is very true, and you alllove it.
Jeff (51:34):
Those Miatas are like.
I mean, it's like, yeah, it'saggressive out there.
Jason (51:38):
That's something I've seen yeah, that's the school of
the hard knocks, bro with thoseguys.
There's a bunch of memes onthem too, all over the socials.
It's funny, but uh what wasyour choice?
Dude like like last question,like or sorry to cut you, jeff
what, what you had something forhim for?
Jerry, nope go ahead, okay,yeah, so gt4, what was your?
(51:58):
So my my favorite is theMercedes, the Mercedes GT4.
I'm a Porsche fanatic, but inGT4, it's a very different story
.
Jared (52:08):
Which one is yours, merc, by far.
Jeff (52:11):
You see Look at this guy, look at this.
Jared (52:15):
This is crazy.
Yeah, I know it was by far theMerc.
I don't know what it was, Ifelt it just.
Jason (52:19):
He might be my brother or son or something in the past.
I don't know, who knows?
Jared (52:25):
The McLaren was a pretty close second CBR.
Jason (52:27):
Merc McLaren.
We love McLaren.
Jeff (52:29):
Yeah, McLaren's pretty good.
I drove the shit out of it fora while.
Jared (52:34):
Yeah, it's a good.
It felt light yeah not like.
Jeff (52:38):
I just liked it.
It felt it was very.
I feel like it was very pointyyeah, I could just point it, and
it would kind of work its wayinto that direction so you know
what yeah, go ahead, you likethe mark, I like.
Jared (52:48):
I like the mark because I felt like I could rotate on the
brakes a bit better than theother ones and I felt like
having that adjustability of absand traction control kind of
gave a small advantage to themerc.
Jason (53:00):
It's just a smooth ride and you know what made me so.
I never used to race gt4s.
We had daniel morris on theshow a year ago and you can go
back and watch that if you want.
Um, and he mentioned he's.
He's a pro.
You know mercedes guy, he's apro mercedes driver for both,
both classes, and he mentionedhow smooth it was to turn the
(53:24):
wheel, how nice and gentle it is, and then you have the power
too.
They have that thing soundsamazing too when you get on the
gas.
So I was like you know what,I'm going to buy it.
I talked to Daniel and Daniel'sgot me thinking about mercedes
all day and I drove it on thenurburg for two hours in the
rain and she held together likenothing, bro, like nothing.
(53:48):
That's when I was like oh, thisis it, if I can drive this car
in the rain for two hours atnight on the nurburg ring uh,
you could dude.
That's kind of the worst casescenario, right?
Yeah, yeah, maybe that, orMonza Monza's pretty bad in the
rain too, I don't know.
Oof Must be, I don't know ifI've raced that in the rain?
(54:08):
I don't know.
Jared (54:09):
I kind of avoid Monza.
Everyone avoids Monza, broEveryone.
And if you play the f1 games.
It's what is it?
Monaco everybody was avoidingmonaco back then, but yeah, oh
yeah, it's such a good track andI feel like the racing is
really good.
Jason (54:24):
It's just that first lap, you know, first two laps, it's
just the giant straightaway dudethat people just want to send
the hell out of the car withcold tires.
Yeah, it's no, you know, that'sa first gear corner right, with
cold tires, first gear, oh yeah, so All right.
(54:45):
Well, you know, I'm happy tosee the enthusiasm.
If it is your dream to become aracer, I really hope that it
comes true and I really hopethat that you get a shot.
And and also I want to wish yougood luck on your, your journey
into the gtp side of thingswith the, with the big boys.
Um, good luck there.
(55:05):
And yeah, this is gonnaconclude the interview.
Um, thank you so much for youknow, making the time.
I know it's late over therewhere you're at um, if we don't.
Uh, jeff, do you have any otherquestions for jared here before
we let him go?
Jeff (55:19):
no, jared, you got any uh shout outs.
You want to give real quick.
Jared (55:23):
Yeah, shout out Impact Sims 4.
There you go, my website,jbinnovationsorg.
I'm going to get some morestuff up on there.
Jason (55:36):
So this guy is an upcoming professional slash
hardware engineer.
I would love to share his links.
So, guys, please check him out,give him some love on the
socials, check out the thingsthat he's building and the
awesome you know communitythat's you know forming around.
We'll also look at this uhleague that he's part of and
maybe we can even race side byside.
(55:58):
We might not be on pace, wemight be side by side at at you
know at the start, but at leastside by side as he's part of,
and maybe we can even race sideby side.
We might not be on pace, wemight be side by side at the
start, but at least Be side byside as he's about to go.
He might be lapping us a fewtimes.
Jeff (56:08):
I'll be shoulder to shoulder for a thousandth of a
second.
Jason (56:12):
I'll take a screenshot when you're done, but don't
worry, I'll just take ascreenshot.
There's Jared Look I'm in frontof him no, shocked.
There.
There's jared look I'm in frontof him no way.
So yeah, I just wanted to.
I just want to thank you and itwas a pleasure meeting you at
the at chicago and yeah, man, Iwish you the best in everything
that you decide to do.
Jared (56:32):
Brother so I did.
I appreciate it and thank youguys so much for having me on.
I mean, it felt weird at theend.
You're like man, I'm going tohave you on.
I was like me, yeah, you.
Jason (56:40):
So yeah, I really do appreciate you guys, everybody's
got a story and the ChicanePodcast does not categorize
people.
You know that way.
You know, we've hadprofessional drivers here, we've
had sim racers here, we've hadCEOs on the show.
Everybody, everybody deservestheir.
Everybody has their story, asJeff says.
Everybody has their story, asJeff says, everybody has their
(57:00):
stories, and always interestingto hear.
And Chicane Podcast is allabout the community.
For the SimRacer anyway, thatis it's number one priority.
And with that, guys, thank youso much.
Jeff shout out to Mr Kellycould not make it today, but I'm
pretty sure he would love to behere to talk to guests.
(57:21):
He loves doing that.
So, jared, good luck witheverything and thank you so much
again for making the time.
And to all you viewers andlisteners out there, have a
great start of your week, thankyou.
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