Porsche Meets Sim Racing: The First Officially Licensed 911 Cup Wheel Inbound!

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Jason (00:35):
This episode is brought to you by Trophyai.
We discuss all things in thesim racing world.
I'm your host, jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric
Kelly.
How's everyone?
How are you doing, eric?
Because there's not a whole lotof everyone today.
But how are you doing, sir?
How's life treating you?

Erick (00:53):
Hey, I'm doing good man.
Kids went back to school, sofood's sticking around the house
a little bit longer.
That always helps out.
Outside of that man doing greatman, how about yourself?

Jason (01:04):
I'm doing great man.
It's kind of a surreal momentfor me just realizing the fact
that August just doesn't want toslow down.
August is just moving at 1,000miles per hour.

Erick (01:20):
I went to the store.

Jason (01:22):
I'm telling you, I went to the store the other day and
they already have like October,like Halloween shit, like on the
walls and stuff.
Like damn bro, like can we getthrough the summer?
It's not even Labor Day yet.

Erick (01:34):
Not at all, man.
You know how it goes, man.
Fourth of July, halloween,christmas, you know that's just
how it goes.
So, yeah, I feel you, man, Ifeel the same way.

Jason (01:46):
All right, man.
Well, Jeff's not here with ustoday.
He is on vacation again.
So I don't know how many timeshe's going to-.

Erick (01:55):
Hey man, we got to check his hours, man, I know right.
Yeah, he might be in thenegative on that PTO or
something like that man.

Jason (01:59):
I don't know who he's billing to, like what he's being
billed to, but I'm just sayingyou know, jeff, I hope you're
having a great time wherever youare, and I'm pretty sure we'll
see him here next week.
So with that, guys yeah, man,yeah, be safe on them streets.
It's kind of hot over there.
So, yeah, for this week'sSimdistry news update, a big

(02:24):
piece of news dropped while Iwas sleeping, because I'm in
Hawaii and everything happenswhen I'm in bed and I wake up to
like, did you not see this post?
And I'm like, bro, I'm sleeping, I just woke up, it's like
midday and I'm getting up.
So this new release I'm veryexcited for, man, very excited

(02:46):
for.
So let me share my screen, showyou what that is.
It's a new piece of hardwarecoming to the sim community in
October and I can't wait.
I literally can't wait.
So this is VPG Sim.
They've made the Mustang GT33wheel, which is an exact.
It is not a replica.

(03:08):
I've been told by othercreators and friends of the show
.
It is not a replica.
Don't call it a replica.
It is an actual steering wheelfor the particular vehicle and
in this case, before we get overto the one on the left which is
the new guy, just just look atthe price.
Now, that's crazy yeah I don'tknow what's going on, but the

(03:35):
new wheel is the porsche 911 cupwheel and it is.
It just came out like the sameday that they just announced the
actual new Cup car, which, ifyou haven't seen that oh my God,
bro, that black and red liverygeez.

Erick (03:54):
Yeah, it looks nice man, it looks really good bro.

Jason (03:59):
Yeah, this wheel right now is up for pre-order.
Wheel right now is up forpre-order and I've been told I
can't confirm or deny, but I'vebeen told that the first 100
people that order this wheel geta limited edition version at no
extra cost.
So just keep that in mind.
We're we're a podcast, so we'rewe're.
You know we're a few daysbehind on news.

(04:20):
I can't help with that.
But yeah, if you go to theirwebsite you can sign up for
notifications.
There's the cup, there's theborn on track unveiled with the
car reengineering your rig.
So this is an actual Porscheofficially licensed product, how
we were just talking about lastweek about Porsche wheels, and

(04:43):
it's crazy how this thing cameout.

Erick (04:46):
Yeah, it snuck up on us man.

Jason (04:48):
It definitely did.
You have the option to buy aVPG spacer, which I highly
recommend you do, because 50.8millimeters is not really the
standard here, at least in theUnited States, so you're going
to need again.
This wheel is made for theactual car, so I mean, well,

(05:10):
here it is.

Erick (05:11):
Yeah, not built in quick release or anything like that
right.

Jason (05:15):
No, it has like, yeah, let's take a look, I'll show you
.
Here's some of the shots.
It has like some sort of um,actually, no, no, no, quick
release, huh, but yeah, youwould have to buy a spacer, but
I do see a hole back there, andthat hole right here where this

(05:35):
little port is is awesome.
I actually answered my ownquestion because I was asking
does it have that connection?
So this is how you hardhardwire the wheel to the base
and we talked about Dan Suzuki'smod last week and that's how
you do it.
You run this wire inside the QR, which connects to a USB, and

(05:56):
now you have a power, excuse me,you run a wire from this to
your QR and then your QR has thepogo pins to kind of have that
connection to the wheel.
That's kind of how it works anda lot of this is becoming a
standard now in the industry.
To have one of these, that'snice.
So, yeah, so two buttons on theback, big old paddle shifters.

(06:21):
Yeah, there's a oh yeah, yeah,man, it's.

Erick (06:27):
That full carbon fiber.

Jason (06:29):
It's full carbon and it has multi-positional switches,
just like my Asher.
So my plans for this is to addthe left dial and have this dial
right here where the grip is,control the minus and plus.
So if I switch to tc, minus aplus or switch to you know, and
so on and so forth okay, andfull signal compatibility and

(06:52):
everything yes nice, nice let'sgo ahead and uh, well, that's
that's.
Uh, yeah, there's the cuff car.
So here we have a porscheofficially, of course, genuine
porsche 992.
Which is the new car carbonfiber body and grips, 76
mappable inputs, 76.

(07:13):
10 APM, 650gf buttons I'massuming that's the force of the
buttons Two auto P9 rearbuttons which you looked at, two
plus two out seven-way funkyswitches.
So now they have a funky switch, which is great.
Four Elma 12 position rotaryswitches can be used as an

(07:36):
encoder, which is that's thefunction that I'm talking about
is switching it to an encodermode.
It even has a number which iskind of dope.
I just realized that numberunderneath the TC there.
I don't know if you can seethat.

Erick (07:52):
Oh yeah, so as you switch it, it kind of just reveals a
different number.

Jason (07:58):
I'm assuming.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, that's cool.
Magnetic paddle shifters.
Four rear connected connectorfor Asetek QR integration or a
custom one.
So the Asetek does have thatfeature.
Where it already comes stock,you could just plug it in.
You don't have to do nosoldering or ordering or doing

(08:22):
anything crazy soldering orordering or doing anything crazy
.
88 individual controlled rgbleds daniel newman racing please
I've asked danny and I thinkhe's in talks.
Yeah, to get with bpg and getthe hookup for this wheel.
Uh, four leds per uh button, 24leds per rotary.
Per rotary so you could changeall of these to whatever is

(08:45):
going to be dope dude.

Erick (08:47):
Simhook compatible right here.

Jason (08:48):
There it is 1,030 gram weight, which is relatively
light, but that's how the wheelis.
I mean, it's not going to be aheavy wheel, it's full carbon.
309 millimeter diameter, sothis is the one I have to get
used to.

(09:08):
So right now I've been racingon nothing but 300.
Hopefully, that extra ninemillimeters I probably won't
feel too much.
Hopefully not.
You think it's negligible?

Erick (09:21):
Yeah, I mean that's width of a cell phone, so it
shouldn't impact you too much.

Jason (09:27):
Shouldn't, and then that's total right 309.

Erick (09:30):
So that's like yeah, so that's spread across both sides
At 4.5 on each side, a littlemore rotation.
Yeah, I think a couple lapsshould be good.

Jason (09:39):
Yeah, the thing is I like to keep it uniform across if I
can, so that way when I do usethe Asher that it's not like, oh
shit, I got to use the Asheragain, whatever.
Yeah, aluminum button guardsand knobs.
So these are all.
The guards are aluminum,they're not plastic, that's dope
.
And then the knobs are aluminum.

(10:05):
50.8 millimeter PCD and a 70millimeter PCD QR compatible.
So 70 millimeters is theindustry, at least in America,
standard.
This is a 70 millimeter QR fromNRG.
I just got this for this wheel.
Carbon fiber Nice Just came intoday.

Erick (10:27):
That's clean man.

Jason (10:28):
You can tell I'm excited.
Fully compatible with VPGClutches add-on kit.
So you can add clutches.
I'm going to look into that.
So let's look at skip throughthis a little bit Lighter weight
, lower inertia, more feel.
So at just one kilogram, this isthe lightest high-end sim wheel
on the market and not a gimmick.

(10:49):
Lower weight means lowerinertia, which translates
directly into faster response,sharper feedback and more
details transmitted to yourhands than the force feedback
unit.
That's interesting.
Well, it is.
This isn't false.

(11:26):
So the lighter the wheel, theless you know, the more forces
you're going to feel becauseit's light.
The problem with that is who'smaking the wheel.
What quality is that wheel?
Is it creaking?
Is it?
Am I going to break it?
You know?
And that's kind of where I'mreally going to test this wheel
out.
When I get it, know what I meanand and put it through hell.
Basically so, full carbon fiber, no compromises.
So the sim wheel carcass uh,this porsche 911 cup sim wheel
carcass and front plate aremanufactured entirely from
motorsport specificationpre-pegged carbon fiber produced
in the very facility where theactual race car wheel is made.

(11:48):
Every detail has been optimizedthrough real world motorsport
process for maximum strengthwith minimum flex, and that's
that's.
That's exactly what I'm talkingabout resulting in yeah, says
that it's pure carbon, born forthe track.
Okay, so guys check this wheelout.

(12:09):
Um, it is exactly the exactreplica of the new porsche and
I'm excited because that was myfirst race win.
I posted it on um social Ithink it was a week ago or two
weeks ago, and this is my firstroad car.

(12:30):
First of all, it's the car thatI race every Thursday.
I've grown to love this car.
I've hated it.
I love it now.

Erick (12:39):
And I figured man.

Jason (12:41):
I love the brand so much I couldn't help it.
I had to pull the trigger onthis man, but that's going to be
dope.

Erick (12:50):
Driving the Porsche with the Porsche, like the real
Porsche wheel, yeah.

Jason (12:54):
That's going to be clean yeah.
And, guys, even if this wheelsomehow is not that great, it's
still a piece of art, it's stilla piece of history.
Right?
It's the first GT3 Cup wheelthat's officially licensed.
You know what I mean, rob.

Erick (13:10):
Markman.

Jason (13:10):
Yeah, rob Markman, to be honest with you, I've heard
mixed things about the Mercedeswheel that Sim Lab makes and,
again, people are notunderstanding the significance
of the wheel.
The wheel is an actual, it's aformula one wheel.
That's, yeah, the actual wheel.
Like, yes, it's high as hell.
We both know that.

(13:31):
But you know, if you um, yeah,if you're a fan, you know that's
, that changes things, right,you being a fan of something.
This wheel may not appeal toeverybody.
It may look basic, it may, itmay look like well, why should I
pay $1,600 when I can buy awheel for less and have a screen
on it?
But then it's about it's not aPorsche wheel, it's not a

(13:54):
Porsche wheel.
It's not a Porsche wheel.

Erick (13:56):
Man, like you said, it's sort of like we talk about like
with consoles and I know youjust got the PS5 Pro and people
kind of kind of go back andforth about justifying the cost.
But at a certain point, if youreally are passionate about a
particular brand, you want kindof what, everything they have to
offer, right, and so that mightbe a goal to you know, one day.

(14:18):
Have you know as close to thereal Porsche wheel as you can.
And this was cool because ifyou sim race then you can
actually use it, whereas in thepast cause I, you know, I like
Porsche I was looking atdifferent Porsche wheels and you
know some people will buy awheel and they'll kind of build
one and they'll put, you know,you know, put the vinyl on there
and kind of make a replicawheel out of it.

(14:39):
But you know this is one that's, you know, from the Porsche
factory.
So that's, that's different man.
And then the quality you know, Iknow to be there.

Jason (14:50):
There's definitely.
I have no doubt in my mind,especially how good the the
Porsche, not the Porsche, theMustang wheel was made.
It's a higher price wheel wasmade.
It's it's it's higher price.
But you know, I've heard manygood things from um I guess this
is a plug for michael from thesim racing then reviewed it and

(15:12):
that was the first person Icontacted.
I was like man, what do youthink of this?
Because you know it's the priceis kind of strikingly
surprising that it's that low.
You know what I mean.
I mean for some.
Let me do some damage control.

Erick (15:27):
This is in comparison.
Yeah, this is in comparison,right?
This?

Jason (15:30):
is not a cheap wheel, by no means.
But when you compare it to thevery sister right, that's a GT3
car type and it's a Mustang.
And they're very similar.
If you look at the shape,shape's very similar to each
other because that's how they'reracing them.

(15:53):
That's what they found to bemeta.
If you look at Formula wheels,they've changed so many times
and Ferrari uses a different one, Mercedes uses a different one.
I mean it's, it's whatever theyfind works the best for their
team, I guess.

Erick (16:09):
So yeah, yeah, so I'm excited I had the same kind of
question.
Yeah, I was going to say I hadthe same question about the
price.
Cause it was kind of you knowespecially, I guess you think
about the fact that it didn'thave a screen on it, you know.

Jason (16:26):
Yeah, but the Mustang one doesn't have a screen.
So I mean, they're both carbonfiber, they're both made out of
aluminum and molded carbon fiber.
So I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what's going onwith I don't know.
Some people I've read onlinetrying to dig this information

(16:46):
for everyone, right, and seeingwell, what kind of information,
Because it's so new Porsche cameout and said that they wanted
to build something that wasaffordable.

Erick (16:58):
Oh, there you go, yeah, so what does that mean then?

Jason (17:01):
Well, yeah, but I mean it's the smartest thing, because
if you can make the wheelreachable and somewhat
reasonable, then you're going tosell more, right, people are
going to buy more and youeventually make that up.
I guess you know what I mean.
I guess one thing leads toanother, I don't know.

Erick (17:22):
So that's kind of smart, right.
So if you're forward thinkingand I can't help but think about
Microsoft, right, you thinkabout when you're in school the
meta for software is Microsoft.
It's not the best software, butthey give it to the schools
because they're like, if we giveit to the kids, that's what the
kids learn to use.
When they become adults, theyget out in the world.

(17:43):
It gets their brand out there,it gets the brand out there.
And when somebody asks you hey,as an adult, you're at your job
.
Hey, what do you need for yourjob?
Oh, I need Microsoft Office.

Jason (18:03):
Even on your resume you put that you're skilled in Excel
or yeah, because people that'sa skill.
That's, believe it or not,basic for some.
But if you have excel skills,that's a very good trait to have
.
There's a lot of people thatdon't know that stuff.

Erick (18:09):
You know what I mean so yeah, yep, and so I can see
porsche, kind of almost seeingsim racers as like, well, we're
grooming future porsche owners,right.
Right, if you're willing tospend sixteen hundred dollars on
a porsche wheel, then you thenmaybe, once you get a couple
pennies rubbed together, youwant to get you a nice car.
You're like, hey, porsche didme good on the wheel, kind of

(18:32):
built up my loyalty to them,actually gave me a real Porsche
one day.
So I don't know, I can see that.

Jason (18:39):
So, yeah, that's kind of what happened to me.
I found love for Porsche iniRacing and then we raced the
GT3R not just the cup car in theNurburgring.
That's what we used and lovedit, yeah, yeah.
Beautiful car, spent a lot oftime in that car, spent a lot of
time in the car and now I guessmy algorithm picked it up or

(19:02):
something and I started watchingvideos and now I'm watching the
races.
I watched the Porsche Cup racealongside the F1 race with the
subscription.
So I'm like, slowly, I can'tafford one.
I can't afford a GT3.
I might be able to afford maybea Boxster or something like
that, oh yeah.

(19:25):
Something that has the brand.
So you say you have one.
I guess it would be nice rightto have one.
I mean, I understand.
I remember way back in the daythis is just Eric and I before
the podcast.
He wanted the Porsche Panamera.
Remember.
Still do it.

(19:46):
Still do, bro.

Erick (19:47):
The Porsche.

Jason (19:47):
Panamera was when that thing came out.
You were like I want that thingbro.

Erick (19:53):
I think you almost bought one.

Jason (19:54):
Right, you almost got one .
And then you ended up with theRange, right the Range.

Erick (19:57):
Rover, yeah, so it was the best of both worlds, because
I know I had a family and it'slike, well, I can't spend the
money on the porsche and I can'ttake anybody else in it.
Why we got the kids.
So it's like a great compromise.
We got back seats.
Are they roomy?
I don't know.
They're there, the kids?
You know they're small littlelegs, they'll be fine back there

(20:19):
.
So that was kind of you know,the the best of both worlds,
especially the way that theywent about designing it.
So when they came out topanamera, do a little quick
history lesson this is what Ilove like, learning about stuff.
So when porsche designed thepanamera they actually shifted
all their design to where theydesigned the panamera first and
every other porsche basicallywas a derivative of the Panamera

(20:43):
design.
So they said that if we canmake the four-door version of
the Porsche look good, thenmaking the coupes and all the
other versions look good wouldbe easy.
So every generation you'll seethe Panamera comes out and all
the other cars kind of arederivative of that design.

Jason (21:01):
I wouldn't mind the SUV either.
Man, they got a nice.
What is it?
The Carrera?

Erick (21:06):
Yeah, they got a Macan.
It's not the Carrera, so theCarrera is another coupe.

Jason (21:14):
That's a sport car, but I can't remember the name right
now, for the love of me.

Erick (21:19):
Yeah, they got like a little, I guess like mid-size
SUV that's called Porsche Macanand it's actually it was one of
the kind of early performancegeared SUVs.
It wasn't like the fastest, oranything like that, but it was
nice.
Yeah, it's Porsche, yeah,that's Porsche.

(21:43):
Yeah, that was man.
I'll tell you, porsche was kingof the 80s and it's still.

Jason (21:50):
I think it had a fallout in the 90s and then it just came
back.
It's better than ever now.
I mean, those things are notcheap and they're selling still
like hotcakes yeah and they gotoptions.
Even if you had the money forone of those, you still got to
get on a waiting list and yeah,Depends on which one you want.

Erick (22:11):
Like if you go on a used market, you can buy.

Jason (22:14):
That's the thing about it A brand new GT3 RS bro.

Erick (22:17):
Oh, gt3 RS, oh yeah, nah, you got to know somebody.
That's like buying a Rolex bro.

Jason (22:23):
You go to a Rolex shop.
Yeah, those.

Erick (22:25):
Rolexes.
You're like yeah, I want thatone.
They're like oh okay.

Jason (22:28):
They're not real.
Here's the wait list.
They're fake.
Yeah, they're models.
They're not really.
This is our display.

Erick (22:33):
That's cute.
Okay, we'll call you.
Don't call us.

Jason (22:37):
That's it.

Erick (22:39):
Yeah, man yeah man.

Jason (22:41):
So that's about it for today's sim industry update.
I thought it earned the spothere on it because it's kind of
a revolutionary moment, and Iwas going to say earlier
revolutionary why?
Because the 992 Cup is nowbrand new and it's out Now.

(23:05):
The new wheel is out and isalso out for sim racing same
time frame.
Yeah, we only need that's afirst gt7 I racing to put this
car in the game.
Um, that's what we, that's whatwe need.
We need.
Um, yeah, ams, whatever put itin, put it in somewhere so we
can check it out.
But maybe AC Evo might have ithidden somewhere, you never know

(23:27):
actually somebody put it inthere already.

Erick (23:34):
Was it a race room?

Jason (23:36):
the 992 that just came out.

Erick (23:39):
I thought I read somewhere that somebody was the
first sim to have it in there.

Jason (23:45):
All right.

Erick (23:45):
I'm going to look it up real quick.

Jason (23:50):
All right.
So I mean, honestly, it makesit special to me because it's
kind of like it's an experienceright when you, when you can
race, put your hands onsomething that and know that
that is the same like peripheraldevice, that the real people

(24:13):
are using it for the, the realsame feel.
Yeah, you know, other than notfeeling the g's and maybe some
torque differences from theactual car, but at least you you
could put your hands onsomething.
That's like if you was to walkup to a a model or not a model,
if you was to walk to an eventand they let you sit in a car,

(24:36):
maybe, or or, uh, you know,touch the wheel.
But oh yeah, I already know,already know what that feels
like.
I think it's cool.
I think it's cool.

Erick (24:46):
Yeah, yeah, that transition, with that connection
between the real car and it'snot every day that I do an
impulse buy like that.

Jason (24:55):
That was not part of the plan at all, that was just it
got me.
It got me in the right spotright away.

Erick (25:04):
Yeah, I was kind of shocked when you told us.
I was like man, I didn't knowJason was going that hard for
Porsche.

Jason (25:10):
Oh yeah.
I got some plans back here.
Oh yeah, hey.

Erick (25:16):
I respect you man.

Jason (25:18):
That's a good brand.

Erick (25:20):
It's a brand name.
Exactly, it's like Kevin.

Jason (25:24):
Exactly, so wait a minute .
So did we find this info?
If not, we could plug it intothe comments later, or hey?

Erick (25:33):
if anybody watching.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do someresearch later.
I thought I remembered somebodykind of being flagged as the
first Sim to have that car inthere, but I'll do the 992.2
that just came out.

Jason (25:45):
I mean I would be impressed if they had a model.

Erick (25:47):
Yet I mean yeah, if it wasn't been, I might have been
mistaken, but oh good yeah, ohgood, I mean, it's not like we
know every single thing.

Jason (25:59):
I mean, you know we're, we're're just doing research as
we go right.
So main discussion time.
Bro, I see you got some thingsup on the board, so I'll let you
have at it.

Erick (26:10):
Yeah, so you know we mentioned you had spent a lot of
time in the Porschespecifically on the Nürburgring
here recently, and so that waskind of something I thought back
about previous episodes,thought about my current kind of
situation trying to actuallyget faster, and you know what
our process is for learning thetrack, for getting faster.

(26:32):
I don't think we ever reallydiscussed it, and so I was going
to kind of kind of talk aboutmy current, when I'm like
serious about learning a trackand watching my guys A track
you've never been on right.

Jason (26:46):
You've never raced on, or you may have occasionally spun
a lap there, but you don'treally know it.
Yeah, and I'm trying to getfast and-.
Competitive.

Erick (26:58):
Yeah, kind of get competitive in what, what, what
information like makes thedifference.
And so I'm going to share myscreen here and so you guys
might know.
Know this streamer.
His name is Rory, he's a GT7streamer, cool dude, and he kind
of went over something that hedoes when he's not only trying

(27:20):
to learn a track, something thathe does when he's not only
trying to learn a track but whenhe's trying to like basically
like squeeze every ounce of paceout of whatever car he's in,
and something that he does.
You know, in GT7, you can watchother people's replays.
And so he mentioned somethingthat perspective, especially
when you're watching a replay,is everything.
So what he did was he showedkind of this view right here

(27:43):
which, if you're watching areplay, you might use this view,
the little chase cam orwhatever.
And he mentioned how, from thiscamera view, if you're trying
to pick up when this person is,you know, on the brakes and kind
of gauge how far you know fromthe marker they are, it can be
deceiving.
And so in GT7, you also knowyou can take the camera and you

(28:07):
can rotate it.
So what he did was he took itand he said like I can tell
exactly.
And if this was the actualreplay, I could actually like
walk around the car and zoom inand I can look at markers and
he'll come up with an actuallike measurement of when they're
engaging a brake from themarker.
So instead of saying about the100, he can say, no, this is,

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you know, about 30 meters fromthe 100.
You know how, how long the redstrip is, how long the white
strip is, and so you can buildup that consistency because
you're narrowing the, basicallythe threshold for when you're
engaging the break, and be moreconsistent every time and kind
of play around with that.
But this the the one week thatI had a chance to kind of employ

(28:58):
this, I did actually notice alot of consistency in my pace
because I wasn't just kind of.
You know, when you're racingand you got guys all around you
and you see the marker, if the100 is the only thing that
you're really looking for andyou're like, yeah, I know, at
some point in front of the 100you're going to be inconsistent,
you know sometimes you'll beand not every car needs to break

(29:21):
at the 100, some cars breakingthe 50 or the 60 you know
exactly.
So, um, like doing this and thentaking this into my practice
laps and just playing aroundwith, like this guy's had one of
the fastest times at no laptimes at the at the time and so,
um, maybe he's breaking a lotlater than you're breaking.

(29:45):
So maybe there's something elseyou need to figure out like,
well, what's his brake balance?
Because you can't actually seethat kind of stuff, so you kind
of play around with that.
What's his brake balance?
What's his tc?
Um, what line is he on?
Like, how much of the track ishe using?
You know, because you have thisas your kind of benchmark.
If you're in the same car, youknow that, well, he's able to

(30:05):
break at this point and still,you know, have enough grip to
take the turn and carry speedthrough.
But I can't, for some reason Ican't do that.
So maybe you have some othertechnique you need to work on,
or or figure out we're takingthis corner, maybe.
Maybe it's the line maybe notusing enough track.
If there's a set of turns or acorner before this, maybe you're

(30:31):
kind of prioritizing the wrongcorner and you need to work on
setting up to where you can,kind of come out of this with
more speed.

Jason (30:35):
Sometimes you sacrifice the corner to get a better exit
on the better exit on the betterstraight on the faster straight
, depending on this track.

Erick (30:43):
Yeah, uh, that was one thing he mentioned too was
basically when he looks at atrack, he takes the, the
straights, he works on thecorners before, the straights
first, so it kind of works tothe shorter corners I want to
add to this before you take thispicture down.

Jason (31:02):
So while viewing this view in the back of the car so
I'm not sure about GT7, but on,iRacing is very strict with off
tracks, you know like incidentsand being off track.
So a good tip for you guys isto go into your cockpit view and

(31:28):
get the car as far right to thecorner and get it exactly the
way this car is lined up.
In the case of this track, heactually has more track to go
over.
He can be way on the green, aslong as he had two tires on over
the white line here in the deadcenter.
Then you can actually go overthat.
Um, so there's actually roomfor him to be even faster.

(31:52):
The way you gauge that whenyou're in a cockpit view is how
do you know?
So pick a car, look at the dash, look at the dash and get the
car as close as possible to thewhite line, to the white line,
and then go on a replay, doublecheck.
If the car is not touching thewhite line, you still have more

(32:14):
room.
So go back into the car again,repeat, rinse and repeat.
When your car's tires are linedup to the white line, go into
the cockpit view and noticewhere on the track, where does
the strip start exactly on thedashboard, and that's how you

(32:35):
know where your limits are forthat particular car.
Because, you use elements of thedash.
You know this view is very easyto to look at, but then we're
not.
We're not racing in this view,we're racing in the cockpit view
.
So in a cockpit view you'llknow like, oh, right, by my ac
switch or whatever it is, youknow, um, right, by the, the

(32:57):
wiper, where the wiper starts,that's the edge limit of the car
.
And if you can, if you can dothat, then you'll squeeze more
time, definitely more time offthis.

Erick (33:07):
Yeah, cause in this replay he actually he's actually
.
So I stopped it right when heum, right when the brake lights
came on, so I can see where hestarted breaking.
But he's actually headingtoward um, toward more of the
green, and he'll be fully as farover as you can be?

Jason (33:25):
Oh no, I'm pretty sure yeah.

Erick (33:26):
Yeah, but that's a good point.

Jason (33:30):
I'm just saying how to know, because you're not really
going to know inside the cockpit.
It's going to be confusingunless you already know the car.
If you know the car, where thelimits are, then you know how
far off you can push, becausethe more off the track you can
get, the easier it's going to beto make this turn.

(33:50):
Depending on the turn,depending on it depends Some
turns.
You want to approach them inthe middle of the track and then
hug one side and then end up onthe other outside and then come
back in.
Those are very different for abasic corner.
Yeah, so I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, I mean there's a lot oftrack for him to use at this

(34:11):
point, right now.

Erick (34:13):
Yeah, and that's a good point too, because, thinking
about you know, my favorite caron GT7 is the Ferrari 458.
Italia car on GT7 is the.
Ferrari 458 Italia.
So once I know where that markis on the dash, I can go to any
track and immediately know howto put my tires pretty much at
the limit.
Yep, theoretically speaking.

Jason (34:34):
Yep.

Erick (34:35):
Depending on the strip too.

Jason (34:36):
There's strips that are.
I mean, you're looking at thewhite line too.
That's what we're looking at,that white line.
So that white line should be aguide.
Also, break markers are a bigone.

Erick (34:51):
So if you don't know a track, I don't mean to take over
your topic, eric but no, that'swhy I brought it up, because I
was like we hadn't reallydiscussed it.
If you don't know a track.

Jason (34:57):
You don't need a track map.
You don't need a.
What do you call this, you?
You don't need a.
What do you call this?
You don't need the lines on theground, the virtual lines.
All you need is this right here.
So if there's brake markers onthe left side of the track, that

(35:18):
means there's a right-hand turncoming up.
That's how you know Every, everytime, every time, it's very
rare that they're on both sides.
If they're on both sides, thenyou better learn that track.

Erick (35:29):
Look at that trap map.

Jason (35:31):
Don't use shadows for breaking points either, because
shadows, time of day changes.
Use something.
Use this pole right here, thepole right before the 100,
that's where we're going tostart breaking.
You know what I mean, because30 meters is a little hard to
remember, right?
Because how many turns doesthis track have?

(35:52):
But if you can learn keys likeyeah, that's that telephone,
that camera pole right there,yeah, I'm going to hit that
camera pole, and every time thatcamera pole is not going away
at least in the Sims.
They don't, you know, until theyget smart and start adding real
destruction, and then the polesmight go down.

(36:13):
But you know, or the box too.
You can use the, the, thelittle, the little booth box
right there to know if you're,if you're on the limit or not.
You know so.

Erick (36:24):
And that's a good point too, cause even I've.
So I've been in a race where,you know, I did my qualifying
lap and then my practice laps,had my break you know break
markers and everything locked inand there was yellow flag go
around the corner coming up onthe next turn.
The markers, they were on theground.
Apparently somebody went offtrack so I didn't even have

(36:48):
those to go by.
So your point about pickingsomething that is not going to
move, even the markers ifthey're up in the air like this,
you know you're fine.
But if they're the little, liketent type things that are
sitting on the ground those canbe gone.

Jason (37:04):
They could be gone.

Erick (37:05):
They could not be there.

Jason (37:07):
But once you learn the track, everything comes together
with the feel and you alreadyknow where.
Yeah, you use the marker, butyou automatically do it.
And then another thing is oursponsor.
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I mean it's an option.
It's a great option to learn atrack quickly and to have

(37:27):
someone speaking to you in theheadset and telling you hey,
next time just break a littlelater.
And then if you have that cueand you combine that with this
knowledge, you're going to comeup top.
Because there's not much totracks, you know, once you get

(37:49):
that, once you know the line,there's very little with how you
, how do you say this?
It's all about exit speeds andhow to maintain speed through
the corner and and and your exit.
That can mean seconds.
It can mean on the nurburgringit can mean 10 seconds.
Seconds, believe it or not?
Oh yeah, because of the tracklength.

(38:11):
You know what I'm saying.
So at least GT7, I mean GT7 ison a console.
The telemetry that they'regiving you it's not really a lot
of telemetry.
There's other programs that youcan connect, which I should

(38:33):
bring that up here.
Maybe next episode that we talkabout.
I could bring up telemetryapplications Again.
Trophy does do telemetry andit's all one package.
That's how come we're sponsoredand we recommend it.
It's a tool that you can use inaddition to this um.

(38:53):
But there is other free,alternative telemetry that you
can compare to other drivers um,it may not be professional
drivers, but it's other driversand then you can see the actual
brake pressure and how much rampup, and then you can see it
come down a little bit, or youcan see waves in between the

(39:17):
turn.
You can see the line, you cansee the brake balance that you
mentioned earlier.
You can see what tractioncontrol they were using.
You can see um a lot, a lot, of, a lot of a lot more data.
That I wish that.
That's why we need GT7 on PC,bro.
Talk to Sony GT8.

Erick (39:39):
Gta is in development, well within development well, I
guess I have to go on my Rolodexman.
I'll hit up Polyphony Digital.
Flip the switch to PC.
Tell them it's that and flipthe switch to PC man.
Tell them it's that time.

Jason (39:53):
Stop playing.
But yeah, I mean again, if youhave nothing else and you're sim
racing on a budget, you don'treally want to do a subscription
, then these types of tips areuseful, because this is how
we've always done it in the past.
You know what I mean?
This is back to basics, is?

(40:13):
yeah watching others andlearning with others.
That's how come we encourageleague racing, because, yeah, we
can go over one track a day,but then next week it's another
track and now we have to learnall over again.
You, you know what I mean.
But if you race with them andyou study them, then it's kind

(40:33):
of like a weekly exercise, orevery two weeks.
I don't know.
It's an exercise.
The more you exercise something, the better you get at it,
because it is a human thing, youknow.
The more you practice something, the better you'll get at it.
It's not like I have my feelingswith professional drivers.

(40:54):
I mean, I can't afford to be aprofessional driver, but I know
sim racers that probably can'tafford that either, and they're
probably faster than real-life.
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(41:15):
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(41:35):
What's the difference?
That they couldn't afford to gothrough karting when they were
kids or they couldn't afford tobuy a car.
You gotta buy the damn car, youknow and beats.

Erick (41:50):
Track day One track day.

Jason (41:52):
Yeah.

Erick (41:53):
Bro, you need some money.

Jason (41:55):
I did track days on a motorcycle and it was expensive
yeah.
You spend $500 on freaking, andthat's only two wheels, right
yeah, those wheels are done,though Tires are done.
You need a whole new set.

Erick (42:08):
Exactly Unless you crazy.

Jason (42:10):
You get home like that.
I mean I've done some wild shit.

Erick (42:17):
Hey, if you go home on no tires, I can guarantee you you
wouldn't break the fast.

Jason (42:21):
You wouldn't push it hard enough.
Yeah, you wouldn't push it hard.

Erick (42:23):
Yeah, you wouldn't drive it fast and break it late.
I'll tell you that Exactly.

Jason (42:27):
You weren't working the tires.
We call them chicken strips,that's what we call them.
The tire look brand new on thewall, on the wall edge.
You see it brand new and on thetop you see it all worn down.

Erick (42:42):
And on the edge.

Jason (42:43):
You're like nah, man, you ain't leaning this bike bro.
But don't do that on the streetguys, don't do it on the street
, do it on the track, yeah.

Erick (42:49):
We don't want to be on that.

Jason (42:53):
We don't want to scrape you off the ground now, and
there's no amount of gearthat'll protect you from that
kind of speed.
So be safe and do it on thetrack.

Erick (43:02):
Yeah, man.
So I wanted to ask you justkind of like in my mind
theürburgring is probably one ofthe most difficult tracks, the
24-hour and with the number oflaps you put in.
Are there any tips or tricks orjust things you would tell

(43:23):
people to focus on if they weretrying to learn the Nürburgring
and kind of increase their paceon it?

Jason (43:29):
Okay so, increasing the pace on the Nürburgring and of
increase their pace on it.
Okay so, increasing the pace onthe Nurburgring and we said
this during the stream and it'skind of controversial.
But with the Nurburgring, thebest tip I can give you is you
got to trust that car.
There's turns that you takethem at crazy speeds and your

(43:53):
mind is telling you the car isnot going to make this turn, but
then it makes the turn.
You know what I mean and that'swhat I was finding more pace on
, because instead of lifting Idid less lifting.
I had my foot down for almostthe entire track.
But if someone's new, if it'ssomeone new getting into the

(44:14):
Nürburgring, the best advice Ican give them is to just drive
the track.
Because if you're going tostudy the track the way we're
studying it, you're going to bethere an eternity.
I think you need to just putlaps and laps and race in them
and then go back and watch thereplays from the top split, and

(44:35):
that's to get you there faster,to see what they're doing, see
where they're breaking, and then, once you finally got the race
line down, then you can startdoing what we're doing.
It's kind of finding the hey atthe bus stop.
We're doing is kind of findingthe hey at the bus stop.
Do this, drop it down a second.
Don't go straight in.

(44:59):
Let the car fall into thecarousel.
Those tips like that, Insteadof going in, you lose speed.
But if you let her drop in, youcarry more speed and the car
automatically wants to go upbecause it's like a gyro, I
don't know.
It's like forcing you to go up,but then you're trying to keep
it, you're trying to keep itleft, but gyro is telling you to
go up.
And that's how come, bro?
If you go watch my stream, theentire rig was shaking.

(45:21):
When I'm in the carousel and Idon't have motion, I don't even
want to know.
The lights are going like thisand I'm like and you come out
and it's like that's how I come.
When you come out, have younoticed that when you come out
of the carousel, the wheel goeslike that?
Because it's like oh, like, I'mnot supposed to be turning this
way.

Erick (45:41):
you know what I mean yeah , that carousel is fun,
especially in VR, but coming outof there you gotta practice
that.

Jason (45:51):
Yeah, because you got to think.
Nurburgring is a big track,especially the 24-hour
configuration.
24 hours is huge.
So your number one thing is tofocus on the clean laps.
If you're going off track,pushing too hard, you're not
really learning anything,because If you're going off
track pushing too hard, you'renot really learning anything

(46:12):
because you're driving over yourlimits at that particular time.
You'll get there, but you needto be patient with that track.
That's the biggest thing ispatience, because having other
cars around you in theNürburgring is a whole other
thing too.
It's hard to pass in this track.
It's hard to pass in this track.
It's very scary.
And if you're in a multi-classrace, there's other cars that

(46:34):
are faster and they're doingthings that you're like he's not
going to pass me here, but he'sgoing to pass you there and you
need to be ready for for thatpass.
You know we've had crazy thingshappen on the on that track
even in real life.
It was banned for a reason, atleast in formula.
It was banned for a reason.

(46:54):
It's dangerous.

Erick (46:55):
Rob Markman yeah, that dude had a big crash there
recently.

Jason (46:59):
Yeah, all the time bro, All the time.
I seen pileups.
Yeah, man, rob Markman.
Yeah, rob Markman.
Yeah, so that's, I guess I mean, trophy.
Ai is another again I'vementioned it before a sponsor.
It's a great tool to learn totrack but again, even with that

(47:20):
coach in your head, it's notgoing to coach you the entire.
If you can't make an entire lap, then you're not hearing the
rest of the data that you'remissing, that last piece of the
track that you're still missingbecause you're crashing, you're
losing speed and you're havingto start over and the tires
don't feel right because youspun out, they overheated or

(47:43):
whatever.
So my thing is, what we did fortheürburgring was literally
stagger with each other and justkeep up with each other.
If you get to a point whenyou're going to overtake me,
don't overtake me, but keep thepressure on my bumper.

(48:03):
That way I'm used to racingunder pressure the whole time.
That's what we did.
So we kept the car doing thisinstead of the car going like
yeah, and then just leaving youbehind and you're not learning
anything.
Right, but if you got, if yougot a guy pressuring you the
whole time on your, you know, onyour bumper, through through
everywhere.

(48:24):
It's like you're looking atyour mirror, which you shouldn't
, but you got that, you got thatpressure Like I need to, I need
to go, I need to go, let's go,let's go, let's go.

Erick (48:35):
Yeah, that race sensation .
And that's cool too, because ata certain point I know
listening to you guys y'all weretalking about how, at a certain
point you were just kind oflike on autopilot, like you were
talking about whatever y'allwere just chit-chatting and the
car is flying.
Yeah, you're wide open, buty'all are laughing talking about

(48:57):
something else and the person'sdriving.
The more that you canincorporate into that feeling, I
think to your point you getused to it.
It becomes a reflex.

Jason (49:10):
Well, and we kind of mentioned this on the show,
right?
Let's say you wasn't a fan ofthe Nürburgring.
If you raced it for four hours,you would love it.
You would not want to raceanything but the Nürburgring.
You would love it, because youcan't love something that you
don't know or understand.

(49:30):
But once you get it, anybodycan learn the Nurburgring.
It doesn't matter if it's AMS2,gt, it doesn't matter the sim,
anybody can learn theNurburgring.
You just need to put time ontothe Nurburgring, and that's hard
because that's a lot of timeYou're talking about four laps

(49:52):
is damn near an hour.
Five laps is damn near an hour.
Six laps yeah, six laps is whatwe were.
It depends we got a pro driver.
It depends on the driver.
The driver that's pushing 802sor not.
No, that's way too fast for aGT3.
I mean 820s or 818s or 815s.

(50:15):
He's burning a lot more gasthan you.
He won't get those seven laps.
He's going to get six and ahalf because he's running the.
At least in iRacing there'sdifferences with the map of the

(50:36):
car.
What engine, what setup, allthat stuff, yeah, and that's
another thing.
Fuel saving too.
Pick a car that you'recomfortable with Don't go on the
Nurburgring with a crazy fastcar.
And now you're trying to fightthe car and then learn the track

(50:56):
.
It's just not going to work out,even if it's a slow car, take
it, learn it, know where thepoints are and learn that track
that way and then you get in thefaster car.
You still have to learn it inthe fast car, but at least you
know the turns.
All you got to do is adjust forthe braking point.

(51:18):
Like, instead of braking way uphere, I'm braking all the way
down here.
But the car could make it thatwas my argument with myself like
pushing the car to the pointwhere bro, like my wheel is 100%
canted this way and my foot'son the ground, like I'm already

(51:40):
four or five laps in theNürburgring.
The tires are not great at thatpoint, they feel nice.
After the second lap oh, it'slike a dream.
And then the third lap, thefourth lap, it's like, oh, okay,
it's starting to get a littleloose squirrely out there.

Erick (51:57):
A little sketchy, huh.

Jason (51:59):
So you start doing micro lifts to compensate.
When you go over a hill and itmesses with your, you know, and
the tire goes off the ground,you give it a slight and I mean
a micro lift is like your foot'sdown and you literally went
like this like for a half asecond, and that alone shifts

(52:19):
the weight down and it helpssettle the car down.
So it helps stabilize it.
You don't have to use yourbrakes because the brakes is
just too much.
Even if you touch the brake,that's way too much speed loss.
It's better to use the engine,you know, to get her to slow
down.
You know what I mean To getover a curve and then slam it,
you know, like right back on it.

(52:41):
You know, oh, yeah, yeah, thatyeah, yeah.
I wish I would have livestreamed the sessions.
The sessions were cool, man.
I think we did like a five hoursession, which is insane.
I didn't think I was there forthat long.

Erick (52:56):
Y'all were prepping for a 24 hour.
We did a five hour session.

Jason (53:01):
People were coming in and out and people were jumping in
and jumping out and it was cool.
I can't wait for the next one.
We did a six hour at the RoadAmerica, so that again felt like
, once again, when you startrunning laps and an hour goes by

(53:24):
, an hour and a half goes by andyou're doing the same lap over
and over and over.
Then you start to relax becauseyour brain is taking over
Autopilot.
It's like walking right.
You start walking for an hour,you forget that you're walking,
but you're still walking.
I don't know if that's a goodanalogy, but that's what I came

(53:45):
up with, but anyways.

Erick (53:46):
Yeah, you kind of get in the zone a little bit.
Basically.

Jason (53:49):
You get in the zone and then if you have your friends
there, they're trying to keepyou awake, hyped, so we start
talking about all kinds of shitand not paying attention that
we're in a freaking 9-11screaming at the top of his
lungs, because that thing isloud as hell and it's in my ear
going ah.

(54:10):
So, that was probably my singlebest experience I've had in my
life in sim racing.
Definitely it seemed like itman.
I need to get you on there, bro,you be on this GT7, get back on
our racing In sim racing,definitely, it seemed like it.
Man, I need to get you on there, bro.
You be on this GT7, get back onour racing.

Erick (54:27):
Yeah, you can still do the GT7.

Jason (54:29):
You can still do the GT7, but we need to get you on there
.

Erick (54:33):
I got to get back on there, yeah.

Jason (54:35):
Got to get you back on there.
You know, from time to time,grl oh, big news guys, and I
know we're like 50 somethingminutes in the episode GRL is
having a big change.
I didn't talk about it lastweek, or maybe I did, but I'll

(55:06):
tell you again if I did.
The Tuesday event that we havein GRL is a multi-class event.
It is MX five and the BMW and,uh, m two.
We are no longer doing the BMWM two, we are moving over to GT.
Four cars of your choice racingalongside, yeah, so that might
be inviting to more.
You get, you know, you get in afaster car and it has ABS.
Well, the BMW has ABS, but it'sstill a pain in the ass to

(55:33):
drive.

Erick (55:33):
All right, guys.
Okay, yeah, that's what's up.

Jason (55:36):
And with that it's that time.

Erick (55:39):
Yes, sir.

Jason (55:40):
And this is me and Eric, or Eric and I.
I need to sound politicallycorrect but it's that time for
track of the week yes, sir andthis week I have it and we are
going with Bahrain InternationalCircuit.
Let me get this sand in ourhair yeah, you know, sometimes

(56:01):
you gotta.
You know there's differentparts of the world.
So bahrain internationalcircuit we're gonna look at the
layouts.
I got the notes, let's get rightinto it dessert and I thought I
had the notes and here they are.
So it says, as with many ofwell, wait a minute.

(56:23):
So this track, let me just goover the facts real quick.
This, this track, was builthold on, we haven't done track
in a long time it would.
It was open.
It was first opened in march 17, 2004, uh, the first game to
ever feature.
It was a formula one game onthe playstation 2, and it was a

(56:46):
formula one 2004, or formula 104, uh, on july 30th, uh, 2004.
So, yeah, I'll give you somelocation.
Uh, on some, some facts here ituh.
It's located in Bahrain, secureBahrain.
Its total length, as of today,is 5.412 kilometers, or 3.3

(57:12):
miles, or 3.
I want to say 3.4 miles.
It has 15 corners.
Nine of those corners are rightand six of those are left, so
your right tires are taking abeating, yeah.
So race distance and formulafor example, usually 57 laps and
they do 308 kilometers here.

(57:32):
So, yeah, lap time record is aminute 31.4 by pedro de la rosa
and a maren in 2005.
So let me go over the historyhere All right.
Okay.
So, as with many of the GulfState motor racing venues, bic
owes its existence to royalconnections.

(57:54):
Crown Prince Sheikh Salman binHamad Al Khalifa I know how to
say khalifa you know what I'msaying as a motorsport
enthusiast and honorarypresident of the um, honorary
president of the bahrain motorfederation.

(58:16):
Gaining an f1 race thus becamea national objective and the
construction of a suitablecircuit was ordered with funding
from government-backedinvestment companies In 1999,.
Let's go ahead and take a look.
Track hasn't had a singleversion here that I can
reference.

(58:36):
In 1999, herman Teich wasapproached to design proposals
for a multi-layout facilitywhich was to be finished to
world-class standards.
It marked the first time Tykehad worked in the Middle East.
To begin the process, tykeneeded to find the perfect
location and began anexplanation of five sites which

(59:00):
had been identified.
There was talk of a locationlocating it on the streets of
the capital of Panama, which isthe capital of secure Bahrain.
That would have been dope if itwas a street track, while
others suggested locating itclose to the country's highway
network.
All had drawbacks and basicallythe final site was located in

(59:26):
secure area in the center ofBahrain's main island.
Was ideal not?
Not least because it allowed atleast some variation in
elevation.
So the circuit was initiallyconceived to be constructed in
three phases.
First would come the inner,ideal for establishing local
rations.
Second would be the outercircuit, which we have them

(59:50):
right here, actually the innercircuits here.
This was the first one.
This is the first time theybuilt it in three phases, and
this is the outer circuit.
So you have that one, which iskind of smart actually the way
you build that yeah, this, thatmakes sense so the outer circuit
has um amenities suitable fortouring car gt racing, and

(01:00:14):
that's why they have the thelarger, you know, like wider
version, while the final phasewould see the full grand prix,
which is this full grand prixwhich cuts in the middle um it's
iconic sheesh yeah, turn 10 ohyeah, so it was designed.

(01:00:36):
They basically type design acircuit with several lengthy
straights connected by mediumand slow speed sections, putting
a premium on a setup with goodtraction.
Emphasis was placed on thelocal architecture and the
designs for the many buildings.
And it's kind of cool thebuildings that they have,
they're kind of dope.
Um.
So then in september 2002 therewas a surprise when, uh, bern

(01:01:04):
Esselstyn awarded the newcircuit a Grand Prix starting in
2004.
This came at the time whenevents in India, turkey and
Russia had been jostling forcalendar slots.
So to secure one ahead of time,basically this project was,

(01:01:26):
excuse me particularly asBahrain hadn't got much beyond
the groundbreaking stage.
So the three-phase constructionplan was suddenly obsolete and
it was a full steam ahead forFormula One elite and it was a
full steam ahead for formula one.

(01:01:47):
Construction started in late2002 with a very challenging 16
month deadline to get thefacility fully completed.
Um, scottis engineer gordoncalder was barred and head to
the construction team whichinvolved wbc, which had built
the sepang circuit several yearspreviously.
Adding the difficulties was therocky nature of the chosen

(01:02:08):
location, which requiredconsiderable blasting and
evacuation to level the area ofconstruction.
A total of 2,000 tons of rockwould ordinarily have needed
moving out of the site, however,fears of the damage that would
have caused to the local roadnetwork, leading to machinery

(01:02:29):
crush it.
So this thing has, like it,went through a lot of stuff when
they were building it.
Yeah, I'm reading here thehistory.

Erick (01:02:40):
It's a newer track but luckily there are no wars or
deaths or anything.
But that's a lot going on, alot of changes.

Jason (01:02:52):
Yeah, it says here that a variety of layouts, going over
the track variations, have seenactive use, the Formula One
itself using the differentconfigurations over the years,
as well as the standard GrandPrix layout in 2010.
Excuse me, basically they wereusing the Grand Prix layout.

(01:03:14):
In 2010, the longer endurancevariant was tried in an
unsuccessful attempt to spice upthe show.
Then, in 2020, bahrain founditself hosting two Grand Prixs
on consecutive weekends as partof the coronavirus-affected
schedule and uniquely decided tohost them on different layouts.

(01:03:34):
So the first event?
That's crazy, right, they hadtwo events back to back.
The first event was used thetraditional Grand Prix variant,
and saw an enormous crash on lapone involving Haas roaming
Rojan.
Remember that big explosion,rob?

Erick (01:03:53):
Markman, yeah, thanks.

Jason (01:03:53):
Rob Markman, that was that week.
That was that week.
Yeah, who spun off to exit onthe turn three following contact
with another car that haspierced the metal barriers?
Yeah, it exploded into flames.
Yeah, that was scary.
That was crazy, bro.
That was probably the mostdeadliest crash we've seen In

(01:04:15):
recent time.
Post COVID right, because thenasty crash with Bianchi in 2016
was pretty bad, which, afterhis death, they added the halo.

(01:04:35):
That's where the halo came from.
Yeah, yeah, so you know, gajanemerged and he survived.
He had some minor burns on hishands, but he literally climbed
out of the barrier in a fireball.

Erick (01:04:46):
Yeah, that was crazy.

Jason (01:04:48):
People were like that was like the longest 10 seconds or
whatever ever waiting for him tosee if he's coming out.
Is he burning?
Is he dead?
Did he fly off the car?
Where is he?
The car was straight up cut inhalf and he was inside the
barrier inside of it, which iscrazy, so, yeah, so lengthy

(01:05:10):
repairs were required to thebarriers before the race this
was the second race Eventuallywon by Lewis Hamilton could
resume.
This wasn't the second race,excuse me, that was the same
race.
A full FIA inquiry has startedto learn and lessons.
Okay, so they learned from it.
The second F1 event run underthe banner of secure Grand Prix

(01:05:33):
under the outer circuit.
This delivered a fast andfurious race Memorable, led by
Mercedes Benz Debut of GeorgeRussell.
Subbing for coronavirusaffected Lewis Hamilton.
So he had COVID.
Oh yeah, he was a rook, he wasa backup.
He was a backup driver, Ibelieve, because it was Hamilton

(01:05:54):
and Botas.
Those were the two and one ofthe shortest lap times in
Formula One.
History saw a race of highdrama, with Sergio Perez taking
a debut win for a racing pointwhen Russell Surford a pit lane
penalty after a mix-up by theteam sent him out.
Yeah, so some things happenedthere.

Erick (01:06:18):
That hurt.

Jason (01:06:20):
So, honestly, not much has changed that hurt.
So honestly, not much haschanged.
The only real modifications tothe circuit over the years have
involved the turn four hairpin.
Let's locate that.
That's that turn four hairpin,it's right up here.
Yeah, let's see what it saysabout this which was opened up
after the first year to create awider, more open overtaking

(01:06:43):
opportunity and the addition ofthe endurance circuit layout in
2005.
Minor changes to the supportpaddock pit lane were required
in 2005 to create a better exitwhich blends into the circuit
moved further to the north andin order to reduce the need to

(01:07:16):
use a portion which basicallycrossed over the Grand Prix
circuit.
So that's Bahrain, whichbasically crossed over the Grand
Prix circuit.
So that's Bahrain.
Okay, a fairly new track, veryfast.
I think it's had many openingdebuts in Formula 1.
It used to be the first trackfor the last couple of years,

(01:07:40):
but then they changed that toAustralia.
But yeah, you know, for thelast couple of years, but then
they changed that to Australia.
But yeah, you can see.

Erick (01:07:46):
You might click on that endurance layout.

Jason (01:07:50):
I will.
I just want to see that turnfour.
So look at turn four.
This is how it used to be sharp.

Erick (01:07:56):
Yeah.

Jason (01:07:57):
And then they widened this.
You see how they have all thisto allow overtakes.
Right what you want me to clickon, Eric.

Erick (01:08:09):
The endurance layout, just so we kind of sheesh.

Jason (01:08:11):
Yeah, so the endurance layout is crazy.
I don't even know the endurancelayout.

Erick (01:08:18):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Jason (01:08:21):
Which is a good example of the flexibility.
Well, that's crazy.

Erick (01:08:24):
Well, which is a good example of the flexibility.

Jason (01:08:25):
Well, that and we were talking about earlier learning
tracks we had a differentversion in I think it was
Nuremberg, our second Nurembergevent, and it had the first five
turns that were different.
So all we did was practicethose first five turns, because
we already knew all of this.
This is all the same.

(01:08:45):
This is all the same.
The only thing is that turnfour, you're not going down,
You're, you're, you know you're,you're banking a left, a right
and then immediate left, andthen all this is new or not new,
but need to be practiced, youknow, need to be practiced a

(01:09:09):
little more.
So, but yeah, that's Bahrain.
Guys, Been a while since we didtrack of the week.
I think it's a good track.
I, it's one of my it's, it'sdefinitely in my top 20 because
I have a lot of, but it's agreat track.
If, if there's a race onBahrain, I'm going to watch it.
It's not like Monaco, which iskind of a disappointment.
Oh man, yeah, that's Bahrain.

(01:09:30):
That's track of the week foryou and we'll roll right into
some of the fan mail we got in,and I think Eric has it all
queued up for us.

Erick (01:09:42):
I do Yep.
So this is another piece of fanmail.
This is from Justin Ruger andthe title of his email is Bass
Shakers, which you know.
The past couple of weeks we'vebeen talking about Bass Shakers
pretty much nonstop.
But he says hey guys, my nameis Justin Ruger, from Alabama.
Shout out to Alabama and haverecently discovered your podcast

(01:10:07):
and enjoy it so much.
Hell yeah bro, sorry.

Jason (01:10:09):
Hell yeah Alabama in the house, bro and Bass Shakers.
Bro, you brought this up, Eric,and look look how you touching
the community.
Three episodes in a row.

Erick (01:10:20):
That's crazy.
Like I said, I love thecommunity, man, my bad, go ahead
.
I'm going to shout out man,especially the folks from
Alabama.
Man, they just been connectingwith me on Facebook and stuff.
Man Shout out to Tim Single 13,.
Man, he asked me to have a beerwith him one of these days.

Jason (01:10:40):
Go man Hell yeah.

Erick (01:10:42):
We're going to do that.
But back to Justin.
But he says, recentlydiscovered your podcast and
enjoy it so much.
It has become a part of myMonday routine to listen to it
on my way to work.
On the subject of the DaytonAudio BST1, I agree the seat
mounting would more than likelybe the best bang for the buck,
but for me, I had a recliningseat where mounting directly

(01:11:03):
wasn't an option.
I recently switched to ahard-shell bucket seat.
There are many mountingsolutions available, but I
wanted to show something.
But I wanted somethinglow-profile, 3d printable Okay,
you're talking our language nowand easy to maintenance if need
be.
I designed this mountingsolution pictures in the
attachment and I'll show thoseafter we get done that.

(01:11:27):
Mounts flush to 80-40 profilehave also made a 40-40 option.
The result is the shakersending vibrations directly into
the frame and is quiteimmersive.
I don't know if it's somethingI want to sell in the future or
not, but I'd be more than happyto send you guys a couple of
sets for free to check out.
I also haven't ever heard ofissues of mounting them

(01:11:48):
vertically versus horizontally,and mine haven't had any issues
running in this configuration.
They're essentially speakersand most speakers run vertically
, but I'm not an engineer.
That could be very wrong, lol.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Man shout out to you, justin,and I'm gonna share, uh, the
phone.

Jason (01:12:08):
Yeah, justin, thank you so much for making us a part of
your routine in the morning.
That's like the best.
I love hearing that.
That's like the best news ever,you know.

Erick (01:12:16):
I still can't believe that man.

Jason (01:12:17):
It sounds, sounds crazy, surreal, it's surreal, it's
surreal, that's kind of cool.

Erick (01:12:23):
So first off, dope rig.
I'm loving that track racerseat you see this Before.
I got mine.
Ooh yeah, he got that big boythere, the official tissue track
racer, and he says he has hismounted and these are the mounts
that he designed.
So definitely shout out to him,apex mods.

(01:12:43):
Share that ST out to him, apexMods.

Jason (01:12:44):
Share that STL bro.
Let's get that STL man.

Erick (01:12:47):
Yeah, you know, we got printers, man, you ain't got to
send us a printer.

Jason (01:12:51):
That is actually a clean print, like not even going to
front dude.

Erick (01:12:56):
That is very clean.
I don't know if he finishedthis at all, but I mean.

Jason (01:12:59):
It looks smooth.
He probably printed it on a ona smooth plate or something.

Erick (01:13:03):
Yeah, but I mean it looks like it's.
It's not flat on the top, it'skind of curved.

Jason (01:13:08):
See that looks way better than having it like a flying
saucer or having it come in likethis.
Having them like this, I think,makes it look more symmetrical,
it looks professional.

Erick (01:13:20):
And the mount, the mount helps man.
It really does.

Jason (01:13:25):
We need that STL, bro, and the profile and the
instructions Send it all, bro.

Erick (01:13:30):
Yeah, go ahead and send the tools.
We'll take care of the rest.

Jason (01:13:32):
I promise you Send it to the chicanepodcasts at gmailcom
or if you want to make it public.
Just send me a link and we'llmake them public.

Erick (01:13:41):
Yep, look, send me a link and we'll make them public.
Yep, look at that.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
Yeah, that's clean, right there.

Jason (01:13:46):
That looks like he bought that.
It looks like he bought thoseout of a store or something.

Erick (01:13:51):
Exactly.

Jason (01:13:51):
That's what I love about 3D printing.
I'm still very much heavily 3Dprinting.
Don't get it twisted now.

Erick (01:14:00):
Oh yeah, hey, man, I thought it was going to start
smoking this past week, man, Ijust printed it in a closure,
printed it for three days,pretty much non-stop, man oh
yeah, those are.

Jason (01:14:11):
Those are high on the yeah, yeah but man shout out to
Justin that's a lot of filamentgoing through there oh bro, look
man like damn, you rollfilament easily.

Erick (01:14:23):
Oh yeah, I was just watching it go down and go down
and then I printed one of thewrong pieces and it took like
seven hours of print.
I'm like oh my God, but I hadto keep going though, man.
But we finished.
But shout out to Justin, we gotto make sure Jeff sees these as
well, because I think he gottwo of these and this might be

(01:14:44):
an option for him.

Jason (01:14:44):
Oh, he would print this like in a heartbeat, if you told
him If he was here.
Well, he'll see this.

Erick (01:14:50):
Yeah, we'll put him up on game and let him know what
Justin sent to us.
But yeah, man, that is the fanmail for the week.
Once again, we appreciateeverybody for taking the time to
reach out to us, man.
We know that everybody's busy,got stuff going on and we really
appreciate when y'all take thetime to reach out and just share
a little bit of y'all'sexperience with us, man, so

(01:15:13):
thank you A hundred percent,justin.

Jason (01:15:15):
Thank you so much.
Very clean setup.
I'm impressed.
Not easy to impress, but when Iam I'll be the first one to
tell you that looks veryprofessional.
I love the sleek kind ofstealth.
Look to it, because if youdidn't know that that's what

(01:15:36):
those were for, you would neverguess that that's holding the
shaker inside of the rig.
Don't look at a, look at a rig.
Look at sideways.
It may have a hump.
It may just be an aesthetichump, but this you know that.
Those are my kudos to you of aclean design.
It looks.
It looks very strong too.
Looks like you, uh, did a goodjob there.

(01:15:58):
So I need to learn the ways ofum.
I need to learn the ways of um.
I need to learn the ways,because those one thing I'm
lacking on, slacking on, islearning the proper way of
making my own stuff, cause thatis the way yeah.

Erick (01:16:12):
Yeah, that's, that's the future for me.

Jason (01:16:14):
I got, I got blender installed and um, I got fusion
installed out of desk and it'sfree, but you know TinkerCAD.
I thought about tryingTinkerCAD out because I've heard
it's easier or whatever.
It's more basic.

Erick (01:16:31):
Yeah, we're going to get it, though We'll get there
somehow someday.

Jason (01:16:36):
But anyways, guys, I don't have anything else for the
group.
Eric, you have anything else?

Erick (01:16:42):
before we shut this one no, man, I don't have a time or
anything with me, a countdown.
But hey, September's coming.

Jason (01:16:51):
Oh, yes, it's getting closer the Sims Gaming Expo.

Erick (01:16:55):
Yeah, August is getting out.

Jason (01:16:56):
I don't know how many times I need to drive this
through your heads, but I willagain to drive this through your
heads, but I will again.
The Chicane Podcast.
Jason, eric, jeff, do not makeany commission for you attending
this event.

(01:17:17):
The importance of this event isto support, you know, basically
support our own American, youknow people, community, so that
way we can have an Expo, so thatway we can have that every year
, not the one-off.
You know what I'm trying to say.
I want this Expo to be asuccess and it will be.
It will be, but I want it to beit's going to be crazy.

(01:17:39):
I want it to be profitable and Iwant it to be profitable for
both ends.
I want it to be crazy, I wantit to be profitable and I want
it to be profitable for bothends.
I want it to be profitable forGeorge and I also want it to be
profitable for you, the simracer, to keep you informed and
actually being able to touchthings and try them out and
engage with the community, notjust go over there and try out
hardware, you know if you're afan of Eric, that's a big part

(01:18:04):
of it.
That's the driving force, butthen there's other benefits.
Right there's competitions.
There's a lot of things we'regoing to go over with George.
He'll be here next week, sostay tuned for that.
And yeah, if you can make it,I'm telling you, um, please try

(01:18:25):
to make it a priority to go,even if it's for a day, even if
you can't stay the whole weekendor you had to work that friday,
just come on a saturday or comeon a sunday or do a two day, um
, and then show some support outthere.
Um, I'm pretty sure, um youknow george will appreciate it
and he's a nice guy, I mean he'she's working hard man, he's

(01:18:47):
working hard, like I, every timeI'd speak to him.
It's late for me here and I'mlike damn bro, this guy's up
right now.
It's like 10 o'clock for me andhe's probably like that's crazy
, 4 or 5 in the morning, likewhat are you doing?

(01:19:17):
Oh yeah, that's crazy, use it,it is still active.
It will be active all the wayup until the last day.
It will still be active.
So, uh, hit us up, let us knowin the comments.
If you are attending the simgaming expo, shout out, let's
hear it.
And, uh, and with that guys,drive fast and break late

(01:19:38):
because jeff is jeff is not herewith us, so I have to take the
plunge from, but do it safelywhen you break late.
So, yeah, all right, guys.
Thank you so much and have agreat start of your week.
Thank you.

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