Sim Racing Across Different Platforms; LMU Update Inbound!

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Jason (00:34):
This episode is brought to you by Trophyai.
We discuss all things in thesim racing world.
I'm your host, jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric
Kelly and Jeff Smart.
How's everybody doing today?

Erick (00:45):
Good man, Another week, Another week closer to the
conference man man, the week'sjust whipping by.

Jeff (00:52):
But again back to the best time of the week, you know,
talking, sim racing with theboys.
Yes, sir.

Jason (00:57):
Hell yeah, that's what's up man, today.
This week the pedals work fine.
This week the pedals work fine.
It's been a whole week sincethe incident of the shitty
situation on the pedals and Ifreaked out because Simucube had
an update.
It was a minor bug fix and Idid have an issue.

(01:20):
And the first thing, I thoughtof was my dog, but a quick
reboot and everything came backto normal.
So this case good to hear, buddyyeah, uneventful, uneventful,
uh week so far just a littlebusy on working on things and
uneventful is good sometimesyeah yes, yes, and we're in the

(01:41):
midst of summertime,summertime's hereertime's here,
and a lot of people go on,travel and sim racing takes a
backseat for most.
I understand that, especiallyfolks with families.
So by all means, get out there.
Kids are out of school.
There's no traffic.
That's the only, that's thegreatest thing ever.
There's no traffic.

Jeff (02:02):
I got crushed.
Today you got crushed today.

Jason (02:04):
It is what it is.
It's hit and miss, man.
Usually it's a little lighter.
There's some truth to that.
Yeah, eric, how was your week,man?

Erick (02:17):
Man, my week was pretty good.
I spent some time in the rig.
I actually posted a question tothe sim rig setup facebook
group uh, earlier, just kind oftrying to dial stuff in.
Um, you know, watching back ourepisode and thinking about my
homie testing my rig out, I um Iended up kind of modifying my

(02:39):
ambient lighting a little bitand just kind of asking the
facebook group if anybody hadany tips or tricks for ambient
lighting.
You know, I know we talkedabout it, jason, and you know
it's nice when it hits,especially like when it's dark,
like it is now, and you know youhave a big change in lighting.
It just, you know, just adds tothe immersion.
But sometimes I'm feeling likeit's not, as like there's times

(03:01):
where I expect something tohappen or to notice something
and I'm not.
So I might need to play aroundwith it a little bit more.

Jeff (03:08):
I do wish it was more dramatic.
You know, it's just like smalland I find if I turn my overhead
lights off it helps a lot.

Erick (03:17):
Yeah, if I'm in like, if it's like if I turn these lights
off, this room would prettymuch be dark, except for my
screens.
So there'll be times where thebrightness of the screen will
kind of wash out and you havetwo lights right.
Yeah, I got two of them, butthey're on like this single kind
of arm, like kind of real closeto each other, probably about

(03:38):
three or four inches apart.
So I might look at doing twoarms, with them separate, just
to get a little more space.

Jason (03:46):
I would play with the position and also save a profile
per car in SimHub.
Why?
Because, yes, because cars aredifferent.
Um, and the reason why, Jeff,you may not see much of action

(04:08):
is because you mostly race openwheeler, which is direct
sunlight on top of the, on topof the you know fuselage and the
car.
It's not like a hooded carwhere there's some shadows, and
when light comes in and it hitsparts of of the car, then then
you have some light.
So my recommendation is to doper profile and try to get the

(04:30):
corners.
That's what I do.
So I aim for the pillar wherethe sun meets the dash in the
middle, because that's alwayschanging based off the time of
day and where you are.
When you're moving around thetrack, the sun is shifting or
you're moving around the sunshifting the light around, and
that's how you get that leftside effect and then you can do

(04:53):
the right side, even for asingle screen, Because if you're
looking at a single screen,your FOV is probably way back to
where you can actually see thewhole dash you could still toss
your light on the far edge ofthe corner.
And if you have triple screensI have triple screens I have

(05:13):
three lights, so I have twooverheads which you see in the
frame there and then on the arm,where my triples, where my
right side of my monitor, my, mythird monitor, you know, I
guess I have a strip of lightsliterally on the profile uh,
Govi lights, cause they'reinexpensive and they're pretty

(05:35):
good.
Um, and I have that light, orthe capture to that light, down
inside where the dash, where thefootwell of a passenger would
go, even though these cars don'treally hold passengers but then
you get that sunlight that'shitting down the floor and I see
that same light.

Erick (05:54):
So it's very subtle.
Yeah, I've never thought aboutthat.
That's cool.

Jason (05:59):
Oh yeah, do his ass bro.

Erick (06:02):
Yeah, so we talked yeah, so we talked about it and I knew
how to kind of bring it up.

Jason (06:07):
I know I'm breaking your on the pod, but um, but man
shout out shout out to SimHub,because it automatically creates
a profile for each car yeahautomatically.

Erick (06:17):
so I just kind of take the, you know, the little spots
and I'm doing something similarwhere, for each light, the three
zones, I kind of have those, Imean like real small, to where
they can like sit across thedash on one side and sit across
the dash on the other.

Jason (06:31):
The smaller the zone, the better.
The more accurate the smallerit is.
If it's huge, then you're goingto get white mixed with green
mixed with blue.
You know what I'm trying to say.
You want that one color and ifyour dashboard is red, you might
have to play around with thatbecause the light's going to

(06:52):
read it as red.
Does that make sense?
Or if it's too close to theactual screen of the car?
You know, you got to thinkabout all those things, you know
?
Another good tip before we moveon and ask Jeff about his week
I know we're still in theannouncements phase.
It's a good topic when you'resetting up lights and you create

(07:15):
a profile and you set it up.
What I like to do even thoughSimHub automatically does it if
I'm driving GT cars, right, gtcars are similar format from
each other, so what I do is Imake a copy of a profile.
Let's say I'm racing a Mercedes.
I make a copy of that and thenI say, hey, I want you to use, I

(07:39):
want this profile to beconnected to the current car
that I'm driving right now,because the game, the sim hub,
recognizes the car and the carid and that way you don't have
to do much right, because thenyou're just making micro
adjustments instead of doing awhole thing all over again.
And, honestly, who the hell hastime to do every single car?

(08:01):
Just do the ones you do themost.
You drive the most, excuse meand go from there.
If you found that you love theFord Mustang GT3, then that's
when you hook it up and you'relike all right, I'm going to get
the lighting right for this carand then you have a generic one
, basically A generic one thatkind of works with.

Erick (08:19):
Everything might not be to the exact point right might
not be to the exact point right.

Jason (08:26):
Yeah, It'll get the highlights.

Erick (08:27):
Yeah.

Jason (08:27):
It'll get you going.

Jeff (08:28):
I didn't know that you could mix Govee and Hugh Jason.

Jason (08:34):
Yes, that's pretty dope.
A few months ago they addedGovee lights to-.

Jeff (08:40):
I just didn't know you could do both at the same I knew
you could do one or the other,I didn't know you could do both.
That's pretty dope.

Jason (08:45):
You could do both.
Look at that.

Jeff (08:47):
I learned something new from the Chicane podcast today.
There you go.

Jason (08:51):
It's crazy and even shout out to DNR.
Danny Newman Racing.
Even his lighting effects workon as many lights as you want.
I think he's got a quad option,but I think sky's the limit,
because you can also tie Dude.
You can do all kinds of shit.
There's lights that havebuilt-in sections.

(09:11):
Have you ever seen those lights, those strips that have section
one, two, three, four, five?
You can program that in SimHubas well.
I know because I had a headachewith the Gobi lights because
they were sectioned out likethat they can do that yeah.
I didn't want it like that, Ijust wanted it a single light on
all the time.

Erick (09:30):
Do they have a Philips?

Jason (09:31):
or the.

Erick (09:33):
Philips big section.

Jason (09:35):
Yeah, the Philips is just one.
You see it up there, those guyson the top, there you go.
They're doing their thing,that's their DNR doing that with
the yellow flags or whatever,but it's just one single bow is
what it is.
Oh, okay, it's just a single,it's just this huge.
The thing is, and I'll say thishere, go with the Phillips Hue.

(10:00):
They're more expensive, but gowith them.
I just recently purchased whatis it called?
Um?
A pack of neewer lights forsome other parts of the studio
here.
They're not bright at all, bro.
The things are 100 right now.
You put these things at 100,they're gonna blind you.

(10:23):
So depending, you know, becauseit depends on where the
target's set and at night, samething.
So, anyways, I hope that helped.
Give it a try.

Erick (10:36):
Yeah, definitely Hit us up, man, if y'all got any ideas
or tips.

Jason (10:42):
And real quick.
I think your boy responded onthe YouTube video.

Erick (10:48):
Oh yeah, I saw that this morning you got to check, or
just now, yeah, he responded.

Jason (10:52):
So shout out yeah, you can see me in the picture.
Follow me, Justin.

Erick (10:57):
My first official co-driver, I guess.

Jason (11:02):
I'll call it the first stranger in your room.
Oh man, that's your baby.
So, jeff, how was your week?
Man, what's going on with you?

Jeff (11:13):
It was good man.
I did quite a bit of drivingthis week, dude.
I have been in AC with thecontent manager and it blows me
away of how old Assetto Corsa is.
But you start doing, loading upsome of those custom shader
patches and pure all those.
You know all the, the, thepatches that you the um, I don't

(11:37):
know what you would call them,but it looks fantastic and I'll
argue you mean the plugins.
The plugins, yeah, thank youmods plug yeah, the mods, mods
and plugins, right, um, forthree dollars and 99 cents, you
can buy the brand new f1 car for2025.
Download some free skins and itis head and shoulders better

(11:59):
than f1.
Whatever year you want to talkyeah, it's, it's fantastic, like
I was, and I trace the weekthat, whatever the f1, whatever
year you want to talk yeah, it's, it's fantastic, like I was,
and I trace the week that,whatever the f1 circuits on, bro
.
They got the sound andeverything, whatever the, and I
understand some people like ams2for f1, but I don't know man um
content manager is it's a closesecond, though it is 100 and

(12:23):
you could go one a, one B,that's fine, but to your uh, the
, you know the um, the Govilights, um racing Monaco, and
you go through the tunnel andthe tunnels, that yellowy
colored lights, and they just,and it's dude, it's it's just
shocking getting in there andknowing how good that game is,

(12:44):
that SIM is, um, and how old itis, and then we just haven't,
you know, kind of topped it inf1 world and I'll kind of go
into.
The other one is I did see somenews that, uh, there were some
publications that pushed outthat f1 had renewed its two-year
uh agreement with ea.
Or ea agree, uh, agreed to tothe extension with F1.

(13:04):
And and then F1 came out andwas like to no, you know, you
know credit of their own.
That website that released thatinformation was inaccurate.
We are not renewing ourrelationship with F1.
And I was like, yes, maybesomebody else will pick it up,
you know, inside, but anyways,there's hope.

Jason (13:24):
There's hope.
Yeah, didn't Lewis Hamilton dolike a commercial or something?

Jeff (13:28):
He did yeah, he's really well.
I mean, they're probably payinga shot.
Who was it?

Jason (13:32):
It was the guy that plays for Paris, the soccer guy I
forgot Mbappe.
They were playing F125.

Erick (13:40):
Oh yeah.

Jason (13:40):
They weren't on Sims, though they were using PS5
controllers, they weren't onSims though they were using PS5
controllers.

Jeff (13:46):
There's hope down the road .

Jason (13:48):
Maybe there's hope for Hamilton being an eSport,
because right now he's doing toohot man.

Jeff (13:55):
That's a whole other topic .
Yeah, I've been driving a lotof F1, buddy.

Jason (13:59):
That's kind of my week in a summary.
Okay, that's what's up.
How about you Triple headerdriving?
Well see, here's the's up.
How about you Triple headerdriving?
Well see, here's the problem,and I messed this up.
We're doing a 24-hour NorseLife on Friday, and this episode
is now in the past, because Idon't.

Jeff (14:21):
The magic of it.
I hope I.

Jason (14:22):
You see the face.
The face is nice and happyBecause I don't know what's
going to happen on Friday.
I don't know if my PC is goingto die, I don't know if the car
is going to make it, I don'tknow if one of the guys is going
to show up.
So we have a six-man squad.
You could probably see thereplay.
Hopefully things didn't go toocrazy.
But we're racing a Porsche GT3Rand there's going to be the cup

(14:47):
car Porsche on track.
There's going to be TCR cars ontrack and the GT4.
60 cars total is the grid sizeOn a 24 hour race.
That is going to start late atnight for me and then it's going
to go through Saturday all theway to almost five in the

(15:07):
morning.
Sunday For some, not for me.
For me it'll end.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We have a big spreadsheet.
We just had a big meeting aboutit.
What's the breakdowns?
So we're doing two hours each.
So we're doing a double stint iswhat we call it, because a full

(15:29):
tank of gas give you like sixlaps and right now I'm averaging
around.
I'm pretty fast.
I was down in the 830s in thePorsche and the Porsche, I think
the all-time fastest right nowor not the all-time, but the
meta right now is in the 820s819s.
But it's North's life, it'shuge.

(15:52):
There's a lot of places to gaintime right With a full tank of
gas.
That's over an hour.
We're pulling in, putting gasin and then I'm going out and
then, as as soon as I come back,uh, another guy's gonna pick up
the car.
Then that person's gonna do thesame thing.

(16:12):
I'm probably gonna go to sleep,because it'll be one, two in
the morning and it's like five,six, seven o'clock in the
morning and somewhere part ofthe world.
But this rig will be streamingall of it on its own, whether
I'm there or not there, and theguys already agreed to read the
comments for me or keep an eyeon the stream.
But it's a six-man, it's asix-team effort right now and

(16:37):
I've never done it before.
It's kind of like a milestoneor not a milestone.
It's kind of like somethingI've always wanted to do.
I just didn't have people thatwere.
I didn't know people that werea good enough to compete in
there and to have the time to doit, cause that's a big one is
having the time to do this.

Erick (16:55):
So you got to practice too.

Jason (16:57):
We did, we practiced for an hour and that was like a few
laps.

Erick (17:03):
It's not even there's not many laps.
I don't know what's laughing.
So what's the weather-?

Jeff (17:07):
You know what I was going to say, Jason.

Jason (17:09):
Oh, go ahead, Eric, the weather is-.
Now hear this the weather isdynamic.

Jeff (17:15):
It's really dynamic.

Jason (17:17):
So if the track so let me explain a little bit about
iRacing weather.
When you look at the iRacingweather and it says 50%, that
doesn't mean 50% for the wholetrack.
That means 50% from where thecar is located at the time.
So if you're in the pits,there's a 50% chance of rain on

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that part of the track.
So if we're looking at weatheron North's life, three minutes
down the road, a few miles downthe road, it's raining, it's
pouring, and then it dries upand you go around again and it's
raining, it's pouring, and yougo around.

Erick (17:53):
Yep, that's wild.
You got dry track.

Jason (17:58):
And then you have we're racing.
I don't know if the race startsat night, but we're going to be
racing through the night,through the sunrise and down at
night again.

Jeff (18:04):
That's dope.

Jason (18:05):
Yeah, so the stream.
Youtube has a limitation of 12hours a stream and then it'll
break it up into pieces.
Twitch doesn't have thatproblem.
So if you want to watch acontinuous stream, then go to
Twitch, but you might see it inpieces.
Uh, because that's just how itis.

(18:27):
There's a limitation withyoutube and streaming, I don't
know.
It'll let you stream, it, justwon't let you.
You know the the recording ofit to have a maximum of 12 hours
, so, or nine hours, somethinglike that jason, just remember
you can't win the race in thefirst stint.

Jeff (18:45):
I know Sure Lose it.

Jason (18:48):
So I'm more.
I'm more concerned aboutbathroom breaks and drinking too
much water.
I might, I might install abladder You're not worried about
like are you worried?

Jeff (18:56):
about like letting the team down, Like you being the
one that crashes.

Jason (19:01):
I've always thought it's more more pressure just to not
let the team down.
I'd rather lose this positionthan then destroy the car
totally understandable andthat's what I told the guys.
I was like we are not.
So the lap times that I toldyou that I was pushing, those
are push laps.
There's no way in hell I'mdriving that car in that manner

(19:21):
when there's cars around me andthere's slower cars and then it
starts to rain.
It's at night, it gets slippery.
Maybe I have the wrong set oftires on and I have to make a
whole lap around before I canput wet tires on.
What happens if I put wet tireson and then it stops raining?
Now I have too much grip.
It's going to be.
It was a monstrosity, becausethis it already happened.

(19:44):
It's kind of confusing.
We're recording it.
It already happened.
So I don't know.
I really don't know what'sgoing to happen.
So that's that's in two days.
Um, so that's what I'm gearingup for and overall, doing some
cleanup around the podcast andmaking sure that things are a
little more efficient.
That's basically what my goalwas for this last two weeks was

(20:08):
making sure that we have afuture planned ahead for the
show.
The show is doing really well,so I want to make a shout out
here.
We crossed a thousand subs hereon YouTube.
That means that we are.
This channel is an officialYouTube partner now, so it's
very it's kind of like a lightbulb went out of my head and

(20:28):
said well, we need to.
It's not like we weren't tidyanyway, but just that little
more, that little touch ofcoherence.
I don't know loss of words, Iguess I don't know Loss of words
.
I guess Continuity, continuity,continuity, continuity is the
key word here Continuity andmaking sure that we cover all

(20:51):
our bases here.
I know last episode we wentover questions and we have a
plethora of more questions andthat's working through the.
Some of them are new and one ofthem is working through a
backlog.
So if you've been waiting foryour question, I highly
apologize.
It's just, it's a lot to, it'sa lot to handle, but with this
you know the way I set things up.

(21:11):
Now I believe that there's alittle bit of a better, more
efficient way forward and withthat, let's get down with the
fun stuff.
That's some boring stuff,except for the Norse life.
Let's get all the boring stuffout the way.
Main discussion I think Erichas our first topic, which is a
main, major, massive thing,coming on June 10th.

(21:33):
At the time of this recording,it should be out literally the
next day right, if I'm notmistaken.

Erick (21:41):
Yeah, because I think Monday is the 9th and then
Tuesday the 10th.

Jason (21:47):
Yes, this will be taking place Live Perfect time.
It will be live?

Erick (21:50):
Yes, sir.
So getting into the topic, asJason mentioned, the 10th is
going to be a big day in simracing, especially for a little
title called LMU or Le MansUltimate.
If you're not familiar withLeont Ultimate, they are
technically still in earlyaccess.
They've been in early accessfor what A year and a half now,

(22:13):
Forever.

Jeff (22:15):
Forever, and they're going to be forever Too long.

Erick (22:18):
Yeah, totally too long, very difficult to tell.

Jason (22:22):
No console date no, nothing.

Erick (22:24):
Yeah, it's um, you know, for good reasons and bad reasons
, it's a, it's a good sim, it'sa great sim yeah, I've, I've
done a couple of races in it,but just kind of for me, the
learning curve, especially forsome of the cars and the way
their online racing is set up,it's very limited, so you're

(22:45):
kind of limited to certain carswithout starting to dump money
into it.
So I kind of reserve all myfunds for iRacing at this point.

Jason (22:56):
Don't worry, that bill gets a lot cheaper right, jeff
After a while you stop spendingthat much.
Jeff Lerner Jr Real cheaper RobMarkman Jr you just got to put
a lot up front.

Erick (23:06):
Jeff Lerner Jr.
Yeah, and the thing is like wetalked about before.
I give IRA some money and I'mnot disappointed.
I'm not sad.
Every Rob Markman sad.

Jason (23:16):
Oh, they take care of you .
Yeah, oh, we just went oversome huge.
That's a great point, yeah.

Erick (23:21):
I feel like it's worth it , so you can't be too upset
about that.

Jason (23:25):
Right, it's like paying for an extended warranty and
they actually do somethingInstead of calling you on the
phone saying your warranty isabout to expire.

Erick (23:38):
We need more money, just in case I see the funds every
time I get into my car, everytime I get on track when I race.
Yeah, but with LMU.
So they got some major changescoming and what you mentioned in
the 24-hour at Norwich Slifer.

Jason (23:51):
I know, I see, I see.

Erick (23:53):
That's very interesting, because my ultimate is adding
driver swaps.
They're adding teams they'readding different positions.
It seems pretty cool, it makessense.

Jason (24:06):
Right, it's freaking hello.
It's Le Mans, like that is the24 hour.

Erick (24:13):
They're known for that right so now you'll be able to
get, I guess, the real 24 hourexperience in Le finally, a year
and a half later, here we go,yeah, so so it seems pretty
pretty interesting um, I know Italked to you, jason, a little
bit about how driver swaps workin our racing, um, but in le
mans ultimate, the way they'llhappen is essentially, you'll

(24:36):
use the MFD to select the nextdriver.

Jason (24:40):
Okay.

Erick (24:40):
And you'll have some different positions.
So you'll have a team that youcan create and you can have
different team what do they callthem?
Team lineups, positions Forcertain cars, and so you'll have
the driver who basically justpretty much drives the car.
That's all they can do.

(25:01):
If you're the driver, they havean engineer who can spectate
team events also like roles, sothey have roles yep and so
that's so it's kind of cool.
So I think this is, if I'm notmistaken.
This is kind of like a stepfurther than what?

Jason (25:20):
To a certain degree, to a certain degree.
So iRacing does have a spec, aspotter mode.
When you're doing driver swapsin these events, caveat, be very
careful with that, because ifyou select let's say, eric
you're racing, or Jeff, both ofyou racing on the Nords with me,

(25:41):
and one of you click on spotter, that's going to disable the
game spotter because it's goingto think that you're now the
actual spotter.
So I don't know how Le MansUltimate is going to implement
that, but we already spot eachother right.

(26:02):
We're on the comms, we tell youthe weather, we tell you the
tires, we tell you how much fuelyou got.
We have pit walls for that biggiant screen back there.
That's how we monitor how closepeople are to you.
So race engineer right here.
But that's good that they haveit in game.
I'm not knocking it.

(26:22):
I'm not knocking it, yeah.

Erick (26:24):
And so to wrap up the engineer role, they'll obviously
be able to see telemetry andthey can set pit stop actions,
so they can basically set withtires.

Jason (26:35):
That's different Stuff like that as well, because I
have to manually select if Iwant to switch out tires or fuel
.

Erick (26:42):
Yeah, Yep, they can set that for you, which I thought
was pretty cool.
Oh, that is.

Jeff (26:46):
Yeah.

Erick (26:47):
I always like nervous it.

Jeff (26:49):
take your mind off having to do that right yeah.

Jason (26:51):
Yeah.
Because you're handing off thecar, right, you're handing it
off.
Yep off the car, right, you'rehanding it off and you just
handed off the car without fueland now you waste more time In
North Slate.
You might not make it aroundagain.

Erick (27:04):
Oh, you're not.

Jason (27:05):
No, it hasn't happened to me.

Erick (27:07):
It hasn't happened.

Jason (27:08):
That was back in my LFM days when I used to run out of
fuel, bro, never again.
I learned my lesson the hardway, bro.

Erick (27:16):
I'm happy to hear that man, I'm happy to hear that.
So they have a couple morepositions.
They have the manager who canassign players to different car
lineups, and you can assignliveries and register them for
races.

Jason (27:29):
Yep, that's awesome.
And you also have the teamowner, who basically has all
those roles, but also they cantransfer ownership of the team
to other owners.
Rob Markman, I wonder if theseskins liveries can be custom
liveries and not just in game.
Oh, they're custom.
That's part of the update, robMarkman.

(27:51):
Wow, okay, that's awesome.

Erick (27:55):
So I was like this I got the reading and you know this
started out as like scrap notes,like let's see what's in here.
Is it going to be anythingreally to talk about?

Jason (28:04):
And it turned into.

Erick (28:06):
okay, this is going to be a major topic, but some more
notes about the team structure.
Everybody can make a team forfree.
You can have a team of up tosix players.
Everybody can make a team forfree.
You can have a team of up tosix players.
But if you want bigger lineups,then you have to have a race

(28:28):
control.
Pro plus membership, of course.

Jason (28:31):
Here we go, here we go.
Yeah, more of the more of themonies.
And to have a team.
Bro is free, well.
Iracing isn't free, well, sofair.

Erick (28:36):
So you can have a team for free Up to six members.
You just have one team, but ifyou want more than six on your
team, then you have to have aProPlus membership.
And I'm just going to sharereal quickly.

Jason (28:49):
So listen, we're having A team, b team, c team.
We're keeping this free man hey.

Jeff (28:57):
There is a free option.

Erick (28:57):
Yeah, so I'm not sure there is a free option.

Jeff (28:59):
There's a free option yeah , so you can.

Erick (29:01):
You know you can drive for free um, here we go with
tears, oh my god no online.
Yeah.
So with the pro you know youget some features, uh.
But the only thing you reallydon't get with the pro
membership that you get with thepro plus.
The pro plus includes DLC, sothe LMU DLC and the R factor two

(29:24):
DLC come with the pro plusmembership, which kind of
thought was interesting but yeah, but that's the price of it 84
bucks but it allows you to haveup to a hundred members on a
team and up to 10 different carlineups.

Jason (29:41):
So if you're really, basically, if you're like
hosting a is this per person oris this for the owner of the
team?

Erick (29:48):
The owner of the team.
Okay, okay.

Jeff (29:51):
So if you split it across five people, that's reasonable.

Erick (29:55):
Yeah, so and then you're getting.
No, obviously everybody hastheir own dlc, but, um, yeah,
that's that aspect of it whichyou know.
They started talking aboutsubscriptions and all that kind
of yeah, but fifty dollars ayear, man, come on, that's.

Jason (30:10):
That's a little high in my opinion but that's not.

Erick (30:14):
You gotta have the, have the Pro Plus.
You got $85 a year.

Jason (30:20):
Well, oh, yeah, cause, if you want the oh dude, yeah,
that's kind of.

Erick (30:24):
It goes, goes zero to.
A hundred real quick, yeah, butI guess kind of moving on a
little bit.
The custom liveries like youmentioned before you, you can
load custom car deliveries foronline events which will be
visible to all participants.
This feature is initiallyavailable for Race Control Pro

(30:46):
and Pro Plus subscribers and forlight players if their team
owner has a pro account.

Jason (30:56):
Oh, I have some comments here, so let me wrap here.

Erick (30:58):
Yeah, so let me wrap up.
Yeah, because it's eating at me, but yeah go ahead.

Jason (31:05):
Yeah, I don't know if you can see me.

Erick (31:07):
Yeah, so I'm going to go ahead.

Jason (31:10):
We're kind of at the end of it here.

Erick (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, so they do have some actual content as well
.
Yeah, so they got two cars inthe track.
They're adding.
They're adding the Huracan GT3Evo II, which is a beast of a
car, dude, it just looks angry.
Yeah, it looks mean.
And they're also adding theLexus.
Ooh.

Jason (31:32):
I like that front end dude.

Erick (31:33):
Yeah, let me put the full respect on the Lexus.
This is the Lexus RCF LMGT3.
Carbon CF right Carbon fiber.
Have a little carbon fiber huh,oh yeah, just a taste.
That car looks like it's 3Dprinted.

Jeff (31:55):
By a crummy 3D printer.
Oh my god, eric, but it'scarbon fiber, that's a.

Jason (32:00):
that's a cool car I know jeff loves carbon fiber, bro,
that that that's a little toomuch for my taste, but if he can
get carbon fiber shorts hewould, I promise you challenge
accepted, if you can carbonfiber your boat, bro, would
would you do it?
No, make it all carbon, no Toohard, the black would just be

(32:20):
brutal.
Oh yeah, it's true, this istrue.

Erick (32:23):
Painful and so the track that they're adding I'm not too
familiar with it.
I know they do some F1 raceshere.
They're adding the large formatand they're also adding the
short circuit as well.

Jason (32:37):
What circuit is this?
This is loose ale internationalcircuit, so it's a laser
scanned it looks like guys staytuned in potential future track
of the week here.

Jeff (32:47):
Yeah, yeah I think that's the one.
They run f1 at it, um, is thatbahrain?
Um or saw or um what other?
I forget.
It's where they had the openingopening race that I thought oh,
they did mention it.

Erick (33:05):
Uh, the laser scanned opening race circuit of the
world championship I forget.

Jeff (33:11):
I feel ashamed of myself it's because we're asking you.

Erick (33:15):
That's all it is.

Jason (33:17):
No, I'm doing a fact check right now.
This is Qatar, qatar.
Yeah, this is Qatar.

Erick (33:24):
Oh, that's what this one is.

Jason (33:25):
So guys don't crucify us in the comments.
We don't know every singletrack on existence.
That's why we study them everyweek.
That's why we do track of theweek.
Okay, so I think we'll add thisto the lineup here, because it
is very interesting.

Erick (33:43):
This is so.
So is Qatar, also known asLuceo, Actually.

Jason (33:47):
I stand corrected, Jeff, you are correct.
This is the.
This is the Qatar internationalcircuit.
It's just when you watch F1,they don't really that's.

Jeff (33:59):
Qatar or Bahrain.

Jason (34:01):
No, it's the Qatar track.

Jeff (34:03):
Okay, yeah.

Erick (34:05):
Yeah.

Jason (34:06):
Yeah, it's the same track .
I have it pulled up here.
I didn't know it was calledLuceo.
That's kind of crazy.
But yeah, it's Qatar.

Jeff (34:15):
It's a fast track.

Jason (34:18):
Again, we don't know every single track, guys, so
apologies for that.
We will do some studying andget back to you and update
everybody.
If you're interested, let usknow in the comments below or
email the show atthechicanepodcast at gmailcom.
But, eric, please, I keepinterrupting.
Eric, I'm sorry.

Erick (34:38):
No, so that wraps up the update.
Oh well, that wraps up thehighlights of the updates.
They're also going to be doingsome changes to tire models,
make some changes to car physicsa little bit.
They're also going to be makingthe changes, making some
changes to the way the carsinteract with the track to

(35:01):
improve handling.
They're also going to beeliminating the clutch after the
first gear.
Apparently, some people wereabusing the clutch and getting
crazy fuel savings.

Jason (35:12):
Oh, so they're cheating it yeah.
They're making some changes, Isee.

Erick (35:18):
Those are kind of my mind , kind of minors to some of the
other things.
But yeah, that wraps up the LMUupdate.
Rob Markman.

Jason (35:26):
I would like to show real quick the Qatar so Jeff can see
, or everybody can see, jeff.
But this is the Qatar.
When you look at it with thecolors and all the graphics it's
a little different.
You guys see this.

Erick (35:48):
Oh, yeah, okay yeah, it says Luceo in the national right
there.

Jason (35:50):
You see it right here, luceo, but then if you go up
here, it says Formula One, qatarAirways.
So we just call it Qatar.
We didn't, I don't know thatmakes sense.
Yeah, and Landon Norris, thehomie, had the lap record last
year.
So, anyways, enough of that.
Thank you, eric.

(36:11):
Thank you so much LMU.
Those are great changes.
What I do want to say after thewrap-up is I have to be fair,
we have to be fair.
If LMU is your sim of choiceand you don't race on iRacing
and you prefer LMU, then by allmeans pay the money, because the

(36:32):
money is going to give you allthe DLC.
It's going to give you, I say,at least the mid-tier right, the
middle one, yeah, 100%.
To you all the DLC.
I say, at least the mid-tierright, the middle one, yeah,
100%.
You don't need to have all theRF2 DLC.
Rf2 is kind of old.
Yeah, go ahead, eric, fight meout.

Erick (36:50):
So the thing is you have to get the top tier to include
the LMU DLC.
So that's kind of the only way.

Jeff (36:58):
Is that the only way you can get it?

Erick (37:00):
That's the only way you can get it oh.

Jason (37:03):
So I missed, I missed Okay.

Erick (37:07):
Now granted, you know you're saving 36 bucks.
So is LMU DLC.
Would you spend more than 36bucks out of pocket buying a DLC
separately?
That's really the only Okay.

Jason (37:22):
Let's compare apples to apples, because I'm sure people
are going to go ballistic in thecomments if I don't.

Erick (37:28):
Prepare the iRacing.

Jason (37:30):
Iracing ain't free iRacing has a flat rate of MSRP
is $12, $13 a month.
That's with no DLC, that's justthe service.
So if we're going to compare itthat way, then yeah, lmu is
definitely the cheaper option,100%.

(37:51):
Now LMU, you're locked into thecontent that you get from,
obviously from LMU, right, butit's not a lot of content.
With the iRacing subscriptionyou have list of a plethora of
different racing, right, youhave NASCAR, you have Dirt Rally

(38:11):
, you have Formula Sport and I'mprobably missing a few.
There's so many.
So I'd say this I keep what Isaid.
I'll stand by what I said.
If LMU is your main sim andthat's what you race on and you

(38:31):
have no other subscription andit doesn't break the bank
subscription and it doesn'tbreak the bank, me personally, I
would buy it.
I would pay the higher tier.
In this case I'll be a littlesalty about it because I'll
still be a little salty about it, but I will pay the money if
that was my main sim, becausewhen ACC was my main sim, I

(38:52):
didn't care what DLC, I didn'tlook at the price, I just hit
buy because that's the sim thatI race on and I want to have
access to everything.
Same with AC, right Contentmanager.
We mentioned AC.
You need to buy all the DLCbefore you can do any of these
mods and stuff.
So you need to have that first,because that's where the game's

(39:16):
built off of mods.
But then the assets come fromthe, the dlc.
The assets, like the buildings,the track, the, the objects
they come from.
They don't come from thin air,you know, they're just modded
pieces of uh.
You know what I'm saying,without getting too nerdy, you
know so that's how I feel aboutit.

Jeff (39:37):
If you like LMU and that's yours, just drop some comments
and let us know why you chosethat over iRacing.
I'm just curious of why peoplechose it.
I think a lot of it has to dowith the cars you can drive.
But past that, I'm curious.
I mean it's pretty good, Idon't own it, I haven't driven

(39:58):
it.
I'm really curious.
I mean it's pretty good, Idon't own it, I haven't driven
it.
I'm really curious.

Jason (40:00):
It drives really well.

Jeff (40:02):
The realism Like the car, okay.

Jason (40:05):
Feedback is awesome.
Sense of speed Graphics.

Erick (40:09):
Scared me.
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

Jeff (40:13):
I prefer iRacing, but Can you get an online race just
about any time?
Okay, yeah, yes, pretty much.

Erick (40:21):
For the most part Okay, for the most part.
So they do have their own kindof rating progression system,
which you'd have to be veryintentional about going in and
progressing to open up.

Jason (40:33):
Yeah, okay, got a profile .
You got like yeah, your safetyrating Sure, all that.

Erick (40:41):
In the beginning online races they give you the race.
This is the race you can raceonline for this week.
Have at it.
The more you race, the more youprogress.
You can move on to the nexttier and have more options open
to you.

Jason (40:58):
So, jeff, if you decided to jump in down this, make sure
you have some time, Because toget that game dialed in it takes
a while.

Erick (41:10):
All right.

Jason (41:13):
Like feedback and all this stuff.
It has a crap ton of settingsthat don't really.

Jeff (41:20):
It's not easy.
Not Markman, not intuitive,okay.

Jason (41:23):
Yeah, it's way better now than what it was when it first
came out, but still there's someglitches here and there or loss
of feedback.
All of a sudden.
It's been happening so muchthat they had to create a button
to reset feedback.
I've never had to reset myforce feedback on any other sim

(41:43):
but this one.
So those little negatives outthe way it's pretty good.
Okay, that's cool, all right.

Erick (41:51):
Yeah, man, yeah, all right use a workaround for sim
hub?
Yes, you do, but it's like verylike one click kind of deal is
you have to use a workaround forSimHub.
Yes, you do, but it's veryone-click kind of deal.
It's just you have to do itbefore you launch the game.

Jason (42:03):
And.
Simhub has built-ininstructions too.
You click on how do I do this,and then it opens SimHub.
They thought of everything tomake it easy.
It's built-in, you just clickon the button.
It's not like a Windows, aMicrosoft Windows, where the
help button does nothing.

Erick (42:21):
It does nothing.

Jeff (42:24):
It would be better if it just wasn't there.
Yeah, just take it off, becausethen you wouldn't be frustrated
that it does nothing.

Jason (42:29):
Yeah, and the computer is like spinning for like three
hours troubleshooting your issueand then it hits you with.
Google search or worse, a Bingsearch.
Oh my God.

Erick (42:41):
Yeah.

Jason (42:43):
All right, thank you, eric.
I appreciate it.
That's how I feel about it.
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Next up is Jeff.
What you got for us, man.

Jeff (43:26):
Yeah, so I've been watching.
You know, I just enjoy lookingat the sim racing setups on the
Facebook page on the Facebook,just to see you know what
everybody's said.
Yeah, there you go Sporting theuh yeah.
Um, it's just cool to see youknow.
If you've got a couple minutesI'll just jump in there and see
what people are posting about,and just it's fun to see other

(43:48):
people's rigs and what peopleare doing and how they set up
stuff and things like that.

Jason (43:51):
It's like a newspaper, bro.
That, that thing is like anewspaper.

Jeff (43:54):
Yeah, it's awesome there's topics being talked about
people showing off their setups.
But what I've seen a trendstart to you know a lot of
questions about it, but I thinkwe'd be remiss if we didn't talk
about it.
But I've seen a lot of peopleasking and setups that have two
different size monitors fortriples.
So what they have is they havelike an ultra wide screen in

(44:17):
front and then two smallercurved screens on the sides.
Um, and I'm going to go throughthe kind of what, the way I see
some pros and cons to each Umand then I'm going to pass it to
you guys for kind of somecomments and your thoughts to
this Um.
So just to start with some pros, I think that it's great

(44:38):
because it moves the seams fromyour traditional triples out a
little bit.
So it's a little bit out ofyour main focus area If you're
not going to use the uh, the uhseam eliminators or the um, the
bezel eliminators.
Uh, so that's one Um.
I think another one.
Why people do it is it's acheaper way into triples.

(45:00):
So people are like oh, I canjump in, I'll get a nice curve
monitor.
You know samsung's pushing outsome really nice, the 47s, and I
think they just pushed out a 51now, um, where that gets them
into the racing, uh, and that'sa, it's a great monitor, um.
And then they're like they justwant to take it that next level
for the total wraparoundperipheral vision and they're

(45:23):
like I don't want to get rid ofthis super nice monitor right
but I want to get more, you knowuh, of the immersion in the
surround.
So they buy a you know uh,whatever monitor.
I would imagine that you try toand this kind of gets into a
con that I'll get to us later,but your vertical screen size is
going to be very difficult tomatch and I'll get into that in

(45:47):
a second.
But I think that kind of colormatching, oh, absolutely yeah, I
never thought of that as apanel, panel panel and color
matching.
So we'll move into the conshere.

Jason (45:57):
Oh, there's way more cons than positives.

Jeff (45:59):
Yeah, you know, and I think you know, and I'll kind of
go back to, I think, why peopleare doing it is it's that
logical step into triples, right?
I have this super nice monitor.

Jason (46:10):
You got to do what you got to do, right?
I?

Jeff (46:11):
got you A hundred percent.
But the cons is like, jason yousaid there's resolution
matching, color matching all ofthe things that you do when you
research a monitor and nowyou're trying to combine the two
, make model Samsung to Acer,all the things that just

(46:31):
Different panel types.
Yeah, different panel types, amillion different things that
you're going to have totroubleshoot, finding the actual
, you know the vertical size tomatch as best as possible.
And let's not leave out ifyou're going to use NVIDIA
Surround.
I can't imagine the nightmarethat would happen there as you
try to.
You know, even if you know,like I, was saying two different
manufacturers.

Jason (46:52):
You can give NVIDIA Surround the best monitor ever.
You can give it a monitor thatwas made by nvidia, that don't
exist, and it'll still crashthat's so true.

Jeff (47:06):
Yeah, we're just not fans frustration kicked in um, but
there's still people, some, thatdo it and it it looks all right
, it looks pretty decent.
Um, I don't say, I think if youhad unlimited budgets and all
this other stuff, people wouldjust go back to more traditional
.
But I've covered some of thepros and cons here.
But I kind of see this ispopping up more and more and,

(47:29):
like I said, I think it'sbecause people invest in that
nice monitor and then, like weall do, we keep building our rig
, but they don't want to get ridof that nice monitor.
So what do you guys think ofErica?
Go to you first.
What are your thoughts on this,as somebody that's, you know,
kind of got into the, the, the,the, the single, but it's a it's

(47:52):
a nice, nice setup.

Erick (47:54):
Is this something you've thought about?
Definitely, First time I saw itI never thought about it it's
something to do.
But the first time I saw it Inever thought about it it's
something to do.
Um, but the first time I saw itI was like man, that that just
the ratio of like, kind of likea wider, like you're saying like
a wider front screen, and thenthey had the two screens kind of
flanking it.
I was like man, it looks kindof it's kind of nice, looks
roomy, but very quickly, um, youknow, dealing with my one ultra

(48:18):
wide monitor, I want morevertical space.
So just to me, an upgrade fromthe ultra wide would be going to
a more standard and I wouldwant that same vertical space on
the sides as well.
And then, like you said, unlessyou're going like ultra wide
all the way around, which wouldbe, you know if that's your
thing, you know you can do that.

(48:38):
But yeah, mixing and matchingthe aspect ratios and
resolutions and all that stuff,I'm like that.
That just seems like such aheadache.

Jeff (48:51):
Yeah, I saw, but you know before.

Jason (48:53):
I go with JC.

Jeff (48:56):
I saw a dude and this is like when you got, like when you
got more money than you knowwhat to do with is like the
triple 49s, oh, okay.
But when you do that, it endsup making the screen like yeah
you're getting a strip.
Yeah just a strip of stuff andyou're like Just because you can
do something doesn't mean youshould do something.

Jason (49:17):
Stretched out to hell, it'll look bad.
So is it my turn?
Yet I'm ready.
So here's the thing computers,this is the year 2025.
Everything works.
You plug it in, everythingworks if the computer, if you

(49:39):
plug something in that don'tsupposed to be there, the
computer beeps.
Back in my day and I'm not thatold, this is not too long ago,
but back in my day you plugsomething in the wrong area,
nothing works and in some casesit gets fried.
So why am I bringing this up?
It's because just becausesomething seems like it's

(50:02):
working doesn't mean that it'sworking correctly.
So, computers, let's say you hada monitor that was 144 hertz
and then you have anothermonitor that has 240 hertz.
The computer is going to findthat happy medium and lower that
240 hertz to match that 144compatibility.

(50:23):
But here's the thing Usually ahigh refresh rate monitor
typically is a VA panel.
They're the highest refreshpanels out there.
And then you have IPS panels,that decent right 144, 120, 165,
some weird numbers.
And here's the problem With theVA panel.
You have something calledghosting, and the lower the

(50:46):
refresh rate, the more presentit is.
So you just took your.
These guys are 239, whatevereach, if I reduce them from 239,
I'm reducing image clarity,quality and stability, because
when you talk to NVIDIA,surround with that, you're

(51:08):
adding a whole differentvariable to a problem that
didn't exist, to a softwarethat's full of problems, and I
can sense it in my bones thatsomeone in the comments is going
to say well, I have it and Idon't have issues.
Right, because that's theanswer.

(51:29):
But you guys got to think noteverybody.
You know what I'm trying to say.

Jeff (51:33):
I have it, I have no issues, it works.

Jason (51:35):
You guys can go ahead.
I'm just giving you the reality.
The reality is you want panelsto match because you want
immersion.
That's what triple screens arefor.
Triple screens don't make youfaster, they make you more aware
.
That makes you a little faster.
Right, being aware makes youfaster, but 90% of it is

(51:58):
immersion.
And that awareness when you'reracing door to door and you can
see how far, or you can lookinto a turn, which you can do
with an ultra wide, but thenyour FOV is so stretched back
that you're not seeing more thanI can see, does that make sense
?
You can see the track beingwide, but it's small, it's tiny.
So that means you had to pullthis screen all the way up front

(52:20):
.
Here.
It's better to have a triplescreen that you can have some
room, have the standard arms out, wrist over wheel, which is
where you're supposed is, havethe wrist on the wheel back,
straight feet at a 45, whateverit is.

(52:43):
Everybody's body is differenttoo, so some people are taller
and I faced that problem withJeff.
Jeff's a big guy.
So when I jumped in his rig Ifelt like Bro, like I was on a
spaceship, like I was on aSpaceX because it was like way
over.
I was like oh, and he's like,oh, no, I'm a big dude, I'm
comfortable that way, and I saidall right, I'm not touching it,

(53:05):
you're comfortable and youdon't have pains.
But we're talking aboutmonitors.
I don't want to drift off toomuch.
So the answer is it can work.
I'm not saying it won't.
The answer is it can work.
I'm not saying it won't.
And there's other options otherthan NVIDIA, because I know
they'll hit me with that one too.
I'm ready for you.

(53:25):
Resize.
Raccoon is one of them.
Then you have the Windows onethat stitches monitors together,
and you know what happens whenyou do that.
You lose G-Sync in most cases,and some people rely on G-Sync,
some people don't.
Sometimes, when you stitchmonitors together, g-sync is
working Again with PC.

(53:47):
There's way too many variableswith it to give you the clear
answer.
But the best answers I can giveyou is to save up for that and
if all you can afford is tocombine with the monitors you
have, then do it.

Jeff (54:00):
Do it because Took the words out of my mouth, Jason.

Jason (54:11):
Do it, but don't invest your money that way.
Invest your money in a propertriple screen setup and a proper
one.
You'll thank yourself later.
The only thing you have toworry about is the software
acting up, not your monitors,not your colors, because that's
a big thing.
You can have the same exactmonitor and they both look
different.
Add now a totally differentaspect ratio and then you're

(54:33):
shrinking.
No dude, it's just.
One of them is going to belonger than the other.
It's going to look funny ashell.

Jeff (54:41):
I think the big takeaway here is at least from bringing
it up here is, if you're goingto do it, at least we want you
to do it with your eyes wideopen.

Jason (54:49):
Yeah, be cognizant and know that this isn't the best
way to do it.
It really isn't.
No matter who tells you, nomatter who says that it works or
not, I'm telling you that itworks.
I'm already confirming to youthat it does work.
Now, does it work correctly?
I have a hard time to say,because if you look at my

(55:11):
background right now and you seethose triple screens and you
see how perfect that bezel-lesskid is triple screens and you
see how perfect that bezel-lesskit is, if you came to my house
and Jeff can attest and lookedat that in real life, it looks
nothing like that.
Am I wrong?
When you look at something froma lens perspective, it tends to
miss details, unless you'reshooting with a $20,000 lens to

(55:42):
get all that detail in, and atwhat color?
So we can go, bro, I can go sohard on this Human eye.
Your age, what is your colorperception?
You can see blues, differentthan I can see blues, but I
can't see your blues.
I will never be able to seeyour blues or greens.
Does that make sense?

Erick (55:58):
Got it, Having one screen and, like I said, seeing that
it didn't take me long to kindof get to the point where I'm
like this seems like moreproblems, yeah.

Jason (56:12):
And ultrawide is good for people that are constrained on
space.
So I'm not knocking you forhaving that, or if you have a
single monitor, not knocking you.
If you can get in the rig andrace and be fast, that's all
that should ever matter.
But if you're, if you'regetting in the rig for immersion
right, when they show you thesesetups they're like yo, I can

(56:33):
get this more immersive thenthat's where I have to say
something.
That's where I have somethingto say about it.

Erick (56:41):
You know like there's definitely a better way to do it
.
I mean, there's a better waythe ultra wides hold their value
.

Jeff (56:47):
You know, you could throw that on facebook marketplace or
something and yeah, group like75 to put towards triples, right
, correct.

Jason (56:55):
So anyways, I just thought it would be it's you can
also use it as a fourth monitortoo.

Jeff (57:01):
That's a hell of a fourth monitor.
Yeah, I was saying that'd bedope.

Jason (57:06):
Oh, but what's the problem with it being up top?
You know what I'm saying.

Jeff (57:10):
You can pull it off, go for it.

Jason (57:12):
You see, same concept, same concept, all right.
So thank you so much, jeff.
Do you have anything to sayabout it yourself?

Jeff (57:26):
I think it just becomes attractive to people that want
to get into triples, like I wassaying, and just view this as a
quicker, easier, more economicalway to do it.
So I don't knock it.
I just wanted at least peopleto be eyes wide open if they
were thinking about it andthey're listening to this.

(57:48):
At least now they'reknowledgeable about it to make
that decision.

Jason (57:52):
Yes, your mileage may vary, and that's it.
That's where we're going toleave it.
Mileage may vary.
Things can look great, they canlook perfect, and things may
not look perfect or may not lookgreat or they may look okay and
you get used to it and then yousit in a proper setup.
That's happening in September,so you can see proper setups.

(58:16):
You can explore the floor andsee what a proper setup is, if
you can go, I understand thattoo.
I know the not everybody'ssituation is the same, so I
understand that too, but if youcan go, We'll see you there.

Erick (58:34):
See you there.

Jason (58:35):
Chicane 10, get your 10% off all three days for the price
of.
F125.
If I find out that you boughtF125, bro or girl, and you
didn't come to the Expo, I'll beupset.
Anyways, it's that time.

Jeff (58:52):
What time?

Jason (58:54):
It's that time.
It's that time for Track of theWeek.
It's that time, it's that timefor Track of the Week.
And today we're handing thisover to Jeff for a rather
controversial one.
I saw a selection here.

Jeff (59:06):
Yeah, this might you know, anger some people.
This might tickle.
Some people Trigger some people.
We live on the edge every nowand then.
This isn't a real track.

Jason (59:17):
We're going to lay it on thick.

Jeff (59:22):
You can't race here, so today we're talking about Monte.

Jason (59:26):
Carlo.

Jeff (59:28):
Or.

Jason (59:30):
Monaco.

Jeff (59:31):
Monte Carlo.
The last track of the week wehad was Indy, on Memorial Day
weekend, and on the same day wehad the F1 race in Monaco.
So I figured it was fittingthat we do the track that was on
the same weekend as Indy andthat it's just been the news
with.
It was just such a bad race.
But anyways, I want to get intosome of the history here.

(59:52):
Gentlemen, before I do that, Ijust want to show the difference
of when it started at 1929 tothe current date.
Jump over here Ready, massivechanges here.
You can sense the sarcasmcoming off my voice here.

Jason (01:00:13):
Very little.

Jeff (01:00:14):
Very little, which is amazing for how long it's been
you know, almost 100 years.

Jason (01:00:21):
I'm trying to see what the shape is like.
You know, I usually like doingthat.

Jeff (01:00:25):
Like a ladle or something Like a cigar pipe, like an old
man cigar pipe.

Jason (01:00:31):
Yeah.

Jeff (01:00:33):
Well, all right.
So before I dig into that,there's a quote that a Nelson
Paquette I think he's just alocal around Monaco, somebody
will probably correct me here,but he has a great quote.
It says it's quote like ridinga bicycle around your living
room.
I thought that was prettyfitting, just how noticeably how
tight the racing is at Monaco.
So anyways, without further ado, I'm going to start digging

(01:00:55):
into this.
So racing has been held on thestreets around the harbor of
Monte Carlo since 1929.
It was the idea of the wealthycigarette manufacturer in Monaco
resident, anthony Nagojas.
He plotted out a course thatwent around the area, the
Boulevard Albert, up the CasinoSquare, down to Monte Carlo

(01:01:19):
Station and around the harborfront, through a tunnel and then
back around to basically thestarting line.
There used to be a big gasmeter there.
I don't think it's thereanymore right by the
start-finish line Proposed.
It was approved and encouraged,took the place Let me remember

(01:01:40):
where I lose my place.
And so the Prince Louis III,who had to approve it, liked the
idea and immediately saw theadvantages it could bring in
boosting the Monaco profile onthe global stage, drawing in
quote unquote the rich tourismacross the continent in
otherwise their off-season.
Well, that dude hit the nail onthe head.

(01:02:03):
Prince Louis, yeah, that'spretty much.
Monaco is where the rich andfamous go to watch F1.
The date of the first Grand Prixwas set for 14 April 1929.
It was 100 laps, almost fourhours, and Englishman William
Groverver Williams racing underthe the pseudo Williams, which I

(01:02:24):
think is where the car uhracing team started from.
Wow, he was dry.
He won it in a Bugatti 35 Bravo.
Ironically, the local hero, shewrong, was unable to take part
as he was racing in this acrossthe ocean in the indy 500.
Even back in the day.
It was on the same weekend.

(01:02:45):
So this is interesting.
I didn't you know it didn't uhthat?
Uh, he wanted to bugatti, butthe guy was the chiron, so there
had to be some linkage there.
Uh, I don't know the history ofbugatti, but the Bugatti Chiron
is a very famous or expensivecar that Bugatti makes.
But I digress All right.

(01:03:06):
The race grew popularitythrough the mid-30s Dudes, in
the 30s 100,000 people came andwatched the race in Monaco.
Damn Regularly attended.

Jason (01:03:18):
They had 100,000 people in Monaco damn regularly
attended.
They had a hundred thousandpeople in monaco.

Jeff (01:03:21):
There hey, like spectators not just residents.

Jason (01:03:24):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, the whole cityain't it?
Yeah, I mean it's still pretty.

Jeff (01:03:28):
I mean, it's like they just pile people on there for
the for the race weekend.
Um, they did uh change thechicane slightly just after the
tunnel, so that is it's added.
Where is it at?
I think it's right after theboulevard as they go up the hill
, right after the right turnfrom the start finish.

(01:03:53):
Unfortunately, in the war, theas the war started in 1939, the
cancellation of all racings uhhappened.
So this is just kind ofinteresting as our uh, you know,
as the as the war starts inEurope, all these tracks kind of
uh stop supporting racing forobvious reasons.
Uh, when peace returns, uh, itwas Anthony Nagos who once again

(01:04:19):
was the event champion.
He's won it a couple times.
No race in 1949.
Here let me move along.
Here, as you can see themassive changes to the track.
Where am I at?
Oh, we're still at this one.
We're still at, yep, we'restill in 49.
So in 49, the death of PrinceLouis III stopped the race.

(01:04:42):
That year Everybody wasmourning, apparently.
But in 1950, it included theround two of the Formula One
World Championship.
The following year, the racewas canceled due to budgetary
concerns and because the rulesfor new cars had yet to be
developed in 1953.

(01:05:02):
Here I'll jump ahead, as we'reabout to switch over 1953, 1954,
the.
Grand Prix was not held, but for55, it was a regain its place
in the world championship,continuing a run which has been
unbroken to the present day.
From that event onwards, thestart moved forward.
Unbroken to the present day.
From that event onwards, thestart moved forward, uh, moved
next to the waterfront.

(01:05:23):
If you watch this it goes.
The race goes right along thewater.
It's pretty, um like, it'spretty spectacular to watch.
Um, a few hundred meters behindthis gas meter corner, uh,
famously, like I was just sayingabout the water, alberto a
satyr plummeted into the harborwhen he lost control through the
chicane.
I always thought about that.

(01:05:44):
As they're driving like, hasanybody happened to actually
like go into the water?
Uh, luckily, the foresightingfor foresight, foresight, excuse
me, of the planning team thatput the race on, had patrolling
frogmen who soon fished out theitalian driver and rescued him
and his car.
Uh, shortly after the next year, surprise, gentlemen, the

(01:06:08):
chicane was narrowed to slowdown the cars.
Um, surprise, surprise, we dosee that, that the, the tracks
are modified here to slow downsome of the cars.
Um 1963, still here, the startline moved back alongside the
pits in 1963 and the newstaggered two by two grid
formation was introduced, uh, totry to slow down the the odds

(01:06:32):
of the the first cornercollisions.
That ain't going to stop firstcorners.

Jason (01:06:37):
No no.

Jeff (01:06:39):
So they did that following the crash of Lorenz Bagatti in
the chicane in 1967.
And it was moved 100 meterscloser to the first corner to
slow down.
That first corner issues 1973,again moving forward here,
massive changes to the track.

Jason (01:07:03):
That one's uh 72 right, oh yep sorry, we'll go one more,
one more a little bit.

Jeff (01:07:07):
You can see the so in 72, the demand of the drivers for
future in or for furtherincreases in safety and
requirements for the pits, uh,had to be permanently barriers
installed.
Uh, you've seen the track.
Currently the pits are brutallysmall.
Um, so they built temporaryrepositioning with no room for

(01:07:28):
the start finish line separationthere the pits.
If you watch it, the back ofthe pits is the start line.
It's that tightly squeezed intomonaco.
There's just no room there, uh,to operate.
Yeah, um, so it's doubledbasically yeah, I'm gonna move
ahead here into 1976, excuse me.
The alterations were made torascasse and stay devant.

(01:07:53):
So rascasse, uh is the corner,uh, kind of the two hairpin
corners right before the startfinish.
This was done to slow down thecars, while in 1986.
The left-right chicane, whichhad increasingly been taking it
at alarming speed, was replacedwith a new chicane closer to the

(01:08:16):
tunnel, to the exit.
This is the one currently.
That, uh, I believe.
Um, george russell just decidednot to do and uh passed the
williams car that was blockinghim for like he just said I he's
like I'll take, I'm going.
So this is this is superinteresting part in uh.
Monaco decided, uh, to do aland reclamation from the harbor

(01:08:37):
.
When you're that wealthy, youjust build land over the water,
giving the benefits of spacesfor a small area of a runoff.
It also slowed the cars downconsiderably, adding to the
chicane because they had moreland there to build over the
water, and it also evened out abig bump there that is still
there to this day.

(01:08:58):
It's just not as bad.
And then 1997, the originalS-Bend around the swimming pool
here.
So if you look here, there's aswimming pool here that the
track goes around.
It's a huge, olympic-sizedswimming pool.
It was redesigned with betterbarriers.
What a novel idea.
And then, like so there's aswimming pool here, but all

(01:09:21):
right, in here is the harbor andthere's like Just water boats
Yep, gajillion dollar boatssitting there.
The S-Bend around the swimmingpool is redesigned, with the
barriers moved further back, anew section named Verage Luis
Chiron.
Right in here, right by theswimming pool, uh was in in

(01:09:43):
honor of the 1931 gp winner andthe longtime clerk of the course
in 2003.
Where am I bam here?
The land reclamation projectwas complete, giving a much
needed additional space to thepits and it has pretty much
remained unchanged since, justvery minor track changes.

(01:10:07):
I think they added this littlerunoff area here.
So if you have brake issues, youdon't just go slamming into the
tunnel, you actually have alittle bit of runoff.
But I'll leave it there for nowjust to walk through their
formula e races here on adifferent week they have a
little bit different modifiedtrack, but it is other than that

(01:10:29):
.
And the f1 weekend where theyrace f2, no other formula or,
excuse me, no other class racesum, but I think a big thing why
monaco is um so um popular isjust the vibe.
If you haven't seen f1 inmonaco, the vibe is like nothing

(01:10:53):
you've ever seen before.
Um, they have these gajilliondollar, but like I'm talking
like half a billion, likelegitimately $200 million yachts
, jason, like 10 feet off thetrack.
You know it's just spectacularto watch just the wealth that is
around Monaco.
F1 weekend is especially in theeighties, bro.

Jason (01:11:14):
Like the old formulas, like it there.
Like you watch some memes ornot.
Memes reels on Instagram with80s music.

Erick (01:11:26):
We missed it, man, we missed it.
Yeah, we did, we missed it.

Jeff (01:11:30):
Like damn.
There's a lot of things thatare better now, but damn.
Monaco in the 80s was like.

Erick (01:11:36):
Can you imagine watching F1 on a yacht, on a boat?

Jason (01:11:41):
I'm telling you, man, we're going to take Jeff's boat
out there.
Yeah, right up from Hawaii.

Jeff (01:11:47):
There's like bigger boats on people's boats than I have.

Jason (01:11:53):
How much fuel do we need to get there, Jeff?
I don't know.
Let me know.

Jeff (01:11:57):
I don't think my boat can carry enough fuel to get there.
Jeff, I don't know, let me know.
I don't think my boat can carryenough fuel to get there.
Uh, super cool track.
Uh, the track I won't say issuper cool, but the vibe around
the race is unmatched yes, it'sa big party.

Jason (01:12:10):
It's like miami, even though miami's track is a little
better, but it's a.
It's a party city.
It's a.
It's a rich and famousglamorous.

Jeff (01:12:19):
the tradition, right, it's been racing there forever Um
unfortunately yeah.
F1 is signed on it for for thenext like 10 years there's
plenty of other tracks that Iwish they'd get rid of, and it
ain't going nowhere.
Like spot is every other year.
Now you know how unbelievableracing.
But monaco is just the vibe.
It is what the funds, fundingeverything money is what makes

(01:12:40):
the world go round and, like 90of the drivers live in monaco,
I'm sure that helps yeah, yes,they do so I think uh.

Jason (01:12:49):
Uh, leclerc lives there.
I forget.
I know toto lives there.
He's got an apartment in landoI won't say they live there.

Jeff (01:12:56):
They claim residence there because there is zero income
tax in Monaco.

Jason (01:13:02):
Oh, yeah, oh so this is why?
So we're moving to Monaco, allright, so the Shaquing podcast
will be aired out of Monaco fromhere on out Out of Monaco, yeah
, out of Monaco.

Jeff (01:13:17):
Like put a Monaco or uh yeah, monte carlo flag on so
monte carlo, I, you know theyhave um.

Jason (01:13:25):
I'm not sure if it's related or not, um, but I know
that rally racing happens upthere too.
It's not on the track, but it'sin the same like geographic
just out of the city area.
Yeah, I know porsche startedracing on there too.
Um, if you have f1 tv you cansee they, they, they do that
porsche cup league that you sawin singapore.

Jeff (01:13:47):
I take it back.
Yeah, so other, I think I saiduh, f1 and f2 are the only ones
that race there.
There's only racing there on f1weekends.

Jason (01:13:54):
They have the p cups, f2 the maybe have the ff, the f1
academy there yeah, but that'sit, but that's it.

Jeff (01:14:02):
And then they have formula e some other weekend, and
that's it.
I mean it's crazy they open thetrack up like immediately after
the race for like local peopleto get home there's not enough
room in monaco, dude.

Jason (01:14:18):
This is really tiny and honestly, I don't roads I don't
get it.
I need to visit.
I just I don't understand whyit's so expensive over there.
I really don't.

Jeff (01:14:29):
I there's so many a lot.

Jason (01:14:32):
I don't know.
I don't know.
Italy is right there.
You go to italy.
It has beautiful places forlike a fraction of the cost.
I don't know.
It's is right there.
You go to Italy.
It has beautiful places forlike a fraction of the cost.

Jeff (01:14:40):
I don't know.
It's where the wealthy go tohide their money.
Man, there you go.

Erick (01:14:44):
No income tax.

Jeff (01:14:45):
We're going to Monaco, it's a little bit of chop Chop.
I don't know anything aboutchop Chop your credit card.

Jason (01:14:53):
Oh, man, I love that movie.

Jeff (01:14:58):
Buffalo Street man.

Jason (01:14:59):
I love that movie Buffalo Street guys highly recommend.
Careful with the kids on thatone, very careful with the kids
on that one.
But thank you so much, jeff,for taking care of track of the
week.
This week, monaco's it's agreat track.
It's just not the fastest track.
Right, it's got its history,though.
I agree with you, it's got itshistory, but it's not the most

(01:15:20):
exciting track.
This year felt like I waswatching a parade.
Basically they were parading F1cars around for us to see them.

Jeff (01:15:28):
68 parade laps.

Jason (01:15:30):
Yeah, that's about it.

Erick (01:15:32):
Oh man.

Jason (01:15:33):
But it was an excuse to grab out a drink and hey, I take
Monaco over no F1 weekend, allday, 100%.

Jeff (01:15:42):
Come on, come on, you know , it's true, we got no race this
weekend, so I'd watch anotherMonaco 100%.

Jason (01:15:47):
I would watch.
If Monaco was this week, I'd bewatching Monaco.

Jeff (01:15:49):
Yeah, over no race 100% Over no race.

Jason (01:15:52):
100%, we got to look at.
We got to reduce it all the waydown to that because that's how
bad it was, oh man, yeah.
So we had some plans to go overquestions today, but I'm
looking at the clock here andwe're reaching our limits here
on time.

(01:16:13):
So for those of you that haveemailed the show and waiting for
a response, just hang tight,we'll get to those.
We'll make that top priorityfor the next episode.
I think we had a bunch ofthings that we wanted to put in
this episode and, like everyother episode, we always run out
of time.
I mean, we just don't haveenough time.

(01:16:33):
So, any roundtables, guys, whatyou got for me.

Jeff (01:16:38):
I've got nothing.
Man, Drive fast and break late.

Jason (01:16:41):
There you go.
Thank you so much, guys.
I really appreciate it For real.
Keep emailing us, send usquestions, leave comments below.
Send us an email at the chicanepodcast at gmailcom.
I want to see you at this expo.
We are now.
We're peaking at the time I cansee September is just down the

(01:17:02):
road.
So make a decision, decisions,decisions, make a decision.
I'm telling you Go ahead andlock in.
Lock it in, lock it in.
So Chicane 10, we get zerokickback, by the way.
You can ask George.

Erick (01:17:18):
Anyways, shout out to Big Georgie, anyways, shout out to
Big Georgie.

Jason (01:17:20):
Yeah, shout out to Big Georgie and yeah, thank you guys
and have a great Saturday week,thank you.

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