October 6, 2025 • 57 mins
What makes a sim feel alive isn’t a flashy launch; it’s teams that keep building, communities that keep showing up, and drivers willing to grow beyond hotlaps. We kick off with a heartfelt farewell to Eric, swap travel notes, and then head straight into the spicy stuff: Max Verstappen’s GT3 win at the Ring. Was it proof of elite, transferable racecraft—or a PR-boosted outlier? We disagree (loudly), but agree on this: Chris Lulham’s path from top sim racer to real GT3 is a powerful signal that sim-to-real is no longer a footnote.
From there, we spotlight two sims that simply refuse to quit. AMS2’s 1.6.8 update drops fresh Lamborghinis, AI and single-player polish, plus physics/FFB love—and teases more endurance content. Raceroom quietly launches one of the best values in sim racing: an Online Racing Pack with 12 cars and 27 tracks (Bathurst, Suzuka, Imola, Indy, Silverstone, Watkins Glen, Laguna Seca, and more) for about $30/€30. If you want robust offline and clean online without subscriptions, that bundle is a gift. We also talk hardware timing with Simucube 3 on the way and why patience could save you serious cash as SC2 prices shift heading into Black Friday.
The heart of the episode is our plain‑English guide to iRacing’s iRating and Safety Rating. We explain strength of field, what actually counts as “official,” how a late practice exit can nuke your iRating, and why longer races are the fastest way to grow SR. You’ll leave knowing how incidents, corner multipliers, and session types really affect your numbers—without letting those numbers run your race. Our take is simple: stop protecting stats, start building racecraft. Use endurance to bank SR, pick healthy splits for better racing, and practice proximity until pressure feels normal. When the math stops surprising you, you can focus on the only thing that matters: passing the car in front.
If this convo helped, follow, share with a friend, and leave a quick review. It helps more sim racers find the show and keeps us diving deep into the gear, games, and grit that make this hobby so damn fun.
Please e-mail the show for any questions, comments or stories/experiences at thechicanepodcast@gmail.com
TGSR/Chicane Podcast Merch Store!: https://trackghost-shop.fourthwall.com
Watch the show in video podcast form on YouTube at: https://www.youtube.com/@TGSsimracing
All my links: https://linktr.ee/tgssimracing
Affiliates and Discount Codes
trophi.ai | Use promo code CHICANE12 to save 12% on your membership https://my.trophi.ai/get-trophi?via=CHICANE
Moradness by Daniel Morad I Use promo code CHICANE15 to save 15% off your order. https://moradness.com/
Intro/Outro Rights below:
Song: Low Mileage - Hold You [NCS Release]
Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds
Free Download/Stream: http://ncs.io/holdyou
Watch: http://ncs.lnk.to/holdyouAT/youtube
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Jason (00:00):
This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the
ultimate performance coach toolfor simracers.
Hello, and welcome to theChicane Podcast, where we
(00:36):
discuss all things in thisin-racing world.
I'm your host, Jason Rivera andI'm joined here by Mr.
Jeff Smart.
How's it going, Jeff?
Jeff (00:43):
Dude.
How was your weekend, bud?
Dude, life is just whipping by.
It feels like, you know, we'rewe just record when we get here
and record again, and it's like,man, it's been a week already.
Jason (00:53):
I know, man.
And especially you that you'vebeen on some world traveler here
we have here, man.
It's kind of awesome.
Jeff (01:00):
Uh yeah, I uh I am separating from the the military
here, the Air Force, and uh thefirst day of you know, the the
the vacation you get or the timeyou saved up, uh my wife and I
spent on a little little uhtrip.
We went to um to BangkokThailand and then to uh Taipei,
Taiwan.
So we had a couple days in eachlocation.
(01:21):
Awesome to just you know getaway, no kids, um, just cruise
around, eat a lot of good streetfood, um, just kind of
disconnect.
So it was great.
It was a lot of fun.
So, but I'm ready to get backto it.
I've been missing, missed therig uh while I was gone, ready
to get back into it.
And uh, I think we got a prettybanger of an episode here.
But uh what you been up to,buddy?
Jason (01:41):
Yeah, I mean, just uh it's it's it's crazy because
this happens to me, man.
I go on vacation, and you wouldthink that, hey, I I I'm gonna
enjoy myself and step away fromthe daily routine of things, but
then you start thinking, or avideo pops up, or a post, and
you're like, man, I want to trythis and I'm not home right now.
(02:04):
And then this was Jeff, by theway, texting me, let back and
forth.
Um, I'm trying to get him intoGTPs because I think GTPs is the
next best thing.
Um compare comparing it to aformula car, right?
Because formula grids are kindof low on not just iRacing, just
in general, Formula Onespecifically.
(02:24):
I know formula cars are prettyhealthy, like the F4 car or the
F3s or the Super Light,whatever.
Um so yeah, I'm trying to justuh teasing him with some GTPs.
Then he comes over and I threwhim in another GTP, and he was
he was like, yo, this thing iscrazy.
And I was like, Yeah, there'sthis fast cars too, man.
(02:45):
Like road cars, you know.
Jeff (02:47):
Bro, that car, the moment you get in that car, it's trying
to kill you.
Yeah, it's a handful.
It's a handful.
Jason (02:53):
It very much like you know, the was it the W13 weiter,
you need to be on your A gameall the time, all the time 100%
precision, but uh yeah, I mean,as you could tell, um it's been
two weeks and Jeff's been awayon vacation, and we've been a
little behind on the news justbecause of the way the show
(03:16):
releases episodes.
Um, and we have some news foryou.
Um, Mr.
Eric Kelly has decided ontaking another another another
path, right?
Um, and on his journey as a inthe content creator world.
So he has decided uh to nolonger be a part of the Shicane
podcast.
And I want to say on behalf ofJeff and I now that we
(03:40):
appreciate everything that he'sdone up until the last day.
And I wish him luck.
I want him to succeed, I wanthim to prevail on on all his
endeavors.
So show him some love, followhim on his on his YouTube
channels.
Um, he has two of them.
He has the uh the techgentleman and he has tech gent
(04:00):
gaming and show your love andappreciation on on that side of
the world.
And that's really on that sideof the, you know, on his side,
if you may.
So he will be missed, but theshow must go on.
And the Shakeane Podcast willbe here to deliver content every
single Monday, just as just asmuch as it did um since it
(04:21):
started.
So that is my announcement fortoday.
Jeff, what do you got?
Jeff (04:27):
Oh man, that's about uh you know, Eric, we wish you the
best, buddy.
Uh, we'll miss you.
Um, no, man, just kind of youknow getting back into it.
Uh kind of what you uh todouble tap what you said about
the uh formula grids running alittle light is uh had a couple
races yesterday, last night thatdidn't go official, just didn't
(04:47):
have enough people.
Super disappointing.
Um, you know, the was it the SF23 on the Red Bull ring?
Super cool car on a greattrack, and just didn't get
enough people to make a grid.
Jason (05:00):
I mean, bro, think about it.
So we have a topic today,specifically you're covering.
And you gotta think that thethe splits on these cars is
carnage, you know, and a lot ofpeople get scared, they don't
want to ruin their I rating bygoing in there, you know what I
mean?
Because it's it's a handful ofa car, you know what I mean?
(05:22):
And it's kind of like, man, doI really want to put my you and
I are here for the thrill.
That's the thing.
You just want to go in thereand and do your thing and and
take care of business.
But some people like, you know,some people we just interviewed
a 10K driver, you know, he'she's not afraid of anything, you
know.
And shout out to Cam.
That man, that man's not afraidof nothing, but there's not a
(05:45):
lot of people like that, whichis why there's not a lot of 10Ks
out there, you know what Imean?
But we'll get more into that.
Um, yeah, I think uh I thinkyou had an announcement, Jeff,
real quick.
Uh it was uh something to dowith uh Max and Chris, you know.
Jeff (06:02):
Yeah, so uh, you know, some people may have heard, some
people uh maybe may have not,but uh Max Verstappen, maybe
you've heard of him um from timeto time.
Most maybe you have, maybe youhaven't, you know, who knows?
But uh if him and his if we'repaying for it.
Turns out maybe uh maybe peoplehave heard of him.
Uh but yeah, him and I'mprobably gonna mess up his last
name, but Chris Lullum uh racedin their first GT3 race at um uh
(06:31):
god, I can't think of uhpronounce it or uh think of it
on the case.
So Nurberg, right?
Nurberg, excuse me.
Yeah, I the ring, bro.
The green hell.
I I saw the the the the theshape of the track, it just
wouldn't come out.
Um yeah, it it turns out thosetwo SOBs are pretty good at
driving damn near anything.
Okay, they went out there andwon it.
Jason (06:51):
All right.
I'm gonna say something rathercontroversial right away.
Jeff (06:54):
Uh I I I'm gonna say something caught pretty
controversial, probably theother way, is let's hear it.
Like or hate Max, that you it'shard to hate on him when he
just appreciates and likesracing anything, right?
He he obviously the dude isabove average racing his Red
Bull car in F1.
Um but he gets out of there,drives to the sim till like
(07:18):
midnight, gets back in the F1car the next day, but then like
on an off weekend, jumps intoGT3 and wins the race.
You know, it I I'm starting tolike him just as a dude that is
like just a dude's dude thatjust put me behind a wheel or
anything.
I don't really care what it is,I'm gonna drive the piss out of
it, and I'm probably gonna beatyou.
Jason (07:37):
I I'm telling you now that mine is a hundred percent
left field, bro.
Okay.
So he he he wins the race andeverything, but he didn't set
any records.
And he um, and I'm extra hardon him because I can't stand Max
Verstappen.
This is not uh a secret, youknow.
Uh he he is who he is, and he'sa great driver when there's no
(08:00):
one in front of him, sure.
Yes, in the clean air, he is aspeed demon.
So it, you know, I'm prettysure I'm gonna I'm gonna take
some some some comment uh karmafor this, but uh yeah, I believe
that you know IMSA racing isnot the richest sport, right?
It doesn't bring numbers likeformula does, in my opinion.
(08:24):
I think you can agree with mehere.
Um what we do need is like adrive to survive IMSA.
Jeff (08:31):
That would be cool to see behind the scenes and to the
garage.
And so I think go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say it's probabthese dudes probably have to
those.
You think that all those guysare full-time drivers?
They probably have like real, Isay real jobs outside of so I
maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
Um, but yeah, I drive tosurvive behind the scenes for
(08:54):
Imza would be freaking badass.
It would be dope, right?
Jason (08:57):
And this, you know, and it's kind of like they don't get
that there's a lot of talent inin those cars, and that in
that, you know, on that side ofthe fence, right?
So then I I see it like theysent Max an invitation because
they want you know the the fame,they want the spotlight on it,
you know, more, and they want itmore so when he wins.
(09:20):
That's all I'm gonna say.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Jeff (09:23):
If you know, yeah, but he so he had to what qualify or not
qualify, but uh is it uh andI'm gonna get probably roasted
here for not do knowing thedetails here, but he qualified
the day before, the weekendbefore, right, to get his
license for the track.
Um it was yeah, it was quick.
So he did legitimately qualifyfor the race.
Jason (09:46):
And well, I didn't say he's not competent to drive one,
I'm just saying that for him tobeat out people that are doing
this every single year, it's alittle sus, you know, just a
hint of sus on that.
You know, you know what I'msaying?
Jeff (10:01):
All right.
Jason (10:02):
Well, let us know in the comments what you think of uh
you know, because Cam, Cam, Cam,the the real pro driver that we
interviewed here, he said ithimself.
He's like, if I got into apeacup, that's not 10k driving,
bro.
You know what I mean?
You see what I mean?
And that's a real answer.
So it, you know, Max is Max isa young, he's still young in a
(10:25):
career.
He he still has a lot to me.
He has a lot to prove.
You know, he's not thephenomena that we think he is.
I hope he is, because we alwaysneed that guy, right?
We always need, we always needthat guy.
It now it's yeah, it's it'sMax.
Before Max, it was Schumacher.
Before it was Schumacher, itwas Senna, and so on and so
(10:47):
forth.
They hated them.
They hated them until they've,you know, something happened to
them, and then they're like, yo,that was a legend, you know,
gotta respect them.
But so they were racing, bro.
Jeff (10:57):
Fair.
I think we're glazing over,we're missing a point here, too,
is that Chris, uh, you know,his co-driver is, or I don't
want to say was, because he'snot a he does definitely have
some background in real liferacing, I think carding and some
F4.
Um, but this dude predominantlythe last couple years has been
a sim driver.
You know, he I think he driveswith Max on his team.
(11:19):
And then this dude got backinto you know a GT3.
I mean, that's that's a bigjump from sim racing to a real
GT3 race.
So um super cool.
Um, I think we're gonna onlysee more of these, right?
Jason (11:31):
As dudes that are predominantly sim racers,
they're legitimizing it.
You know, that's what they'redoing.
Jeff (11:36):
100%.
And I think that's I Idefinitely want to make sure
that we brought up that pointthat uh, you know, that is the
main point.
Don't listen to me.
Jason (11:43):
I'm just uh I'm just angry that he wants and it's
been a while too.
It's been a few days to sleepit off.
I still haven't slept it off.
Jeff (11:52):
But uh big gulp of hater aid uh max there.
Yeah, but yeah, it's cool.
We'll so hopefully we'll seemore of this sim racers turning
real car real world racedrivers, race car drivers.
Jason (12:04):
Okay, so today um we have a uh simdistry update.
Again, Jeff is taking the uhthe honors here, and I I'm
happy.
I'm happy to hand it over toyou, sir.
Jeff (12:16):
Yeah, you know, there's this there's this game out
there, AMS2, that's been a goodthing.
They don't quit, bro.
Jason (12:22):
They're not quitting, they don't quit.
Jeff (12:24):
Keep pushing out updates.
Um, so we got update 1.6.8.
Uh came out early October.
I think it was the third.
Don't quote me on it.
But, anyways, they released anupdate for Autoballista 2, along
with the Lamborghini Dream PackPart 2 DLC.
Um, they added four more newLamborghini cars, notably the
(12:47):
Merced R go uh R GT, a previewof the upcoming GT1 2025 class
with more endurance content toarrive in late October.
So here we are.
Um probably getting anotherupdate from AMS in a couple
weeks.
Jason (13:02):
So we got a roadmap.
That's crazy.
Jeff (13:05):
Yeah.
So the update also bringsimprovements to AI behavior,
enhancements to the singleplayer, um, and ground uh laying
the groundwork for a 2026career mode.
So that's pretty cool.
Um, provides multiplayer stabilstabil stability and force.
Stability, stability,stability, uh, as well as with
(13:26):
some physics and force feedbackupdates.
So um super cool stuff thatthey're providing and updates.
You know, this game's just likeI I think I've always said if I
had to pick one sim to play andI couldn't play anything else
forever, it's probably a tiebetween AMS2 and uh the original
AC content manager.
Jason (13:46):
Wait, content manager, yeah.
Jeff (13:48):
It has to be content manager.
Jason (13:49):
Um, but yeah, the VR experience in AC is unmatched,
bro.
I need to get in there morebecause I drive the shit out of
the uh how is it that I can getout of a I I know we've said
this many times.
Just the other day, I you know,I just the other day, which is
great.
Thank you for providing thisinformation, bro.
Appreciate you.
(14:10):
But just the other day, Ihooked up the VR headset just
because I was like, man, uhokay, I'll I'll spill the beans
here.
Uh, we're not ready to talkabout it just yet, but we will
get to it.
But Jeff and I, probably thetwo souls in Hawaii that ordered
a bell tensioner, the twosouls.
They were probably looking atwhat is these two packages going
(14:31):
to Hawaii?
Jeff (14:32):
You knuckleheads couldn't have packaged us together and
shaved shipping?
No.
Jason (14:36):
You know, it's funny, and I won't mention, I won't
mention the the name because youknow, but I I spoke to the guy
on the phone, and I was like,hey, you know, just I was I was
talking about some somethingthat he's that he had at the
expo, and it was like thesecushion belts, right?
And they were custom ones.
He was he was bragging aboutthem.
He was like, hey, you know,these are custom, and and and I
(15:00):
put them on, and I'm like, wow,that's really freaking
comfortable.
So I called him up, and then hewas laughing on the phone.
He was like, bro, you you youyou were the guy that ordered
from Hawaii?
Do you know the other guy?
I was like, Yeah, I do.
You know, he's he's on the showwith me.
We we met you at the expo.
He's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, Iremember.
Then he's like, bro, you know,we had to cancel all shipments
(15:22):
to Hawaii when we seen what itcost us, what it really cost.
And I was dying, yo.
He was like, it was like, he'slike, whatever you paid, we paid
like almost double the price.
I was like, God bless Jeff.
Jeff was like, Jeff influencedme to order the belt tensioner.
And we won't get into thedetails, but this is funny as
(15:45):
shit, and I gotta say it here onthe show because this this is
straight no chaser, always.
But Jeff is like, I love thebelts, right?
He's he's using them and he'strying them out and he's
tweaking them.
And then he's like, dude, my mymy harness is I I got the wrong
harness.
He says, I need I need one.
Uh I need you know where I'mgoing with it, Jeff.
(16:07):
He's like, I need one that hugsthe crotch area, but in a very
different term.
I almost had a damn heartattack when I heard what he
said.
And then he says, Yeah, dude,it really grabs you there.
And then I was like, he's like,You want to come over and try
it?
And I was like, Hell no, thatlink just became freaking
(16:29):
personal as shit.
I ain't going over there.
I was like, listen, I'd ratherpay the money and get it over
here.
And I believe you, I trust you,I trust you.
We we speak every week on thepodcast.
You're good.
We we use them, we're good,we're good.
So more to follow on that.
I mean, that was I thought thatwas kind of cool.
So, yeah, but we kind of foryou other Hawaii sim racers out
(16:51):
there, uh, yeah.
If you happen to find thisparticular dealer, the prices
might go up a little bit forshipping.
You might want to order itright away if if you haven't
already.
Jeff (17:02):
So no, I think that that that episode is gonna be uh a
banger of that episode when wegive you know kind of some
feedback on the belt tensioners.
I think it's we'll look forwardto that one too.
Jason (17:12):
Oh, yeah.
We're gonna have some deep divediscussions about it.
Um, but we're safe to move onfrom AMS too, right?
Or do we want to cover anythingelse?
Jeff (17:21):
Yeah, I mean, just real quick, I'm not gonna get too
much into uh they just did dosome, I guess, uh bundling, DL
DC, DLC bundling uh a little bitdifferently.
So they're just bundling umsome of their new uh not the
some of their new, but all oftheir tracks and cars.
So it may, if you get intoSteam and you know get in there
and look at their DLCs, uh, itmight look a little bit
(17:43):
different.
Um, it is.
They are have not added any newtracks to it um or games
outside of or excuse me, uh carsoutside of the recent update,
uh, but it might look different.
They're just bundling things alittle bit differently.
They're putting, you know, IMSAbundles um and things like
that.
So uh just a small ad there.
That kind of wraps up oursimdistry news for this week,
(18:05):
unless Jason, you got anythingelse to add?
Jason (18:07):
No, I think that's fair enough.
I I do want to just do a hardupdate on just the loss of time
here that we've had, just youknow, from the weeks uh we came
back from the expo, and thenJeff had a trip.
So we it all worked outmagically in the background.
Um, but you know, Simicube onour last episode we mentioned
(18:29):
that there was a uh surpriseunveiling, but it's no surprise,
it's actually confirmed.
There's a Simicube 3 comingout, and you can sign up on the
Simicube website, I believe, um,for emails, and you can
actually watch the unveilinghappen at the German expo, which
(18:50):
uh the uh the Sim Racing Expoin Germany.
Um I think it's on uh October9th.
So by the time this airs, it'llstill be relevant news, making
sure of that, making sure wedon't go over.
Um, but yeah, it is a Semic3base, and I'm very curious
because we asked the CEO thequestion, and he said one day,
(19:13):
and this is that one day, and itwasn't too long, right?
That's why, that's why he hadthat long pause.
Ah, I see.
Jeff (19:19):
It's like I'm not gonna knock not let this one go
public.
Jason (19:23):
While he was saying uh he was he was he was envisioning
it in his head, like, yeah, Iknow what it looks like.
Everything was flashing by allthe destruction manuals and
everything was just goingthrough his head.
Like, I know what it is, but Ican't tell you.
Jeff (19:36):
It didn't get leaked too far after too far after that.
Jason (19:39):
I don't think the leak was supposed to happen.
I think that it got it gotleaked, and that basically put
the finger on them to say weneed to respond about this now,
you know what I mean?
Like right now.
So yeah.
So that's just a quickcatch-up.
Jeff (19:57):
Um I'm still a little sore about not getting in on the uh
the ultimate change.
Jason (20:04):
On the deal, bro.
So at the expo, I don't know ifwe covered this, but so dude,
I'm still salty about this.
They unboxed Simicube 2's pros,not the sport, the pros.
Uh left all the stickers onthem, kept all the boxes, kept
all the everything, even thewarranty, bro.
(20:25):
Even the warranty.
Jeff (20:27):
It was what how many sim race, how many uh rigs did they
have just for the racing or theyou know, the uh uh maybe it was
like 30 something rigs, bro.
Jason (20:37):
Yeah, we're not talking like five or six, yeah.
It was like 30 rigs, you know,and on top of that, they had
simicus across the the floorspace, you know.
They were being used, it wasway more than 30, bro.
It was like 50.
Jeff (20:51):
I wouldn't say it was up there, but anyways, yeah, they
were simic was like, Yeah, weain't bringing these home 690.
What was it?
690, 650, something like that.
Jason (21:01):
It was like half off.
It was like 600, it's like 599or something.
Jeff (21:04):
Yep.
Um take them in, take them homewith you.
Jason (21:07):
And I was like, I hate that morning.
Yeah, dude.
And I'm so sorry, bro.
And even if you couldn't havetaken it, they would have
shipped it for you, they wouldhave packaged it up in its
original packaging, shipped it,send you an invoice, like if you
would have purchased it brandnew, meaning that has a hundred
percent warranty.
(21:27):
You know, semicolons is smartbecause they knew that that
three was coming out.
That was a good way to offloadthese quickly.
Jeff (21:35):
Well, if they want to offload a couple more at that
point, let's do it.
Please, by all means.
Jason (21:40):
Well, I'll tell you what, um the semicon three coming
out, and if you guys werethinking about a semicube two,
if you were in that range, Iwould still suggest a
semiconduo.
It's not that because the threeis here that you're gonna have
to run to get the three.
The two is amazing, however,comma in this house, you already
(22:05):
know what's going down, Jeff.
So we might have one for salefor you.
Okay.
Jeff (22:10):
You know, because we have this argument all the time, uh,
you know, the the Simicube, youknow, versus you know,
everything else.
And I was like, it's not worthit, it's not worth the the
premium price that they have onit.
And you know, um, Simicube isunapologetically, hey, we are
not the entry point into SimRacing, we are the premier.
(22:31):
When you're ready to investinto the high-end product, give
us a call and we got a productfor you.
Jason (22:36):
100%.
They tell you that straight up,they're not riding it.
Jeff (22:39):
Yeah.
I mean, I got to jump into Idon't know how many rigs at the
expo, and damn near every singleone was a simicube.
And I was blown away.
And I've gotten to Jason's, buta lot of times when I get into
Jason's rig, I'm overwhelmed byall the other shit going on.
Oh but uh no, I would I am asimicube believer now in that it
that they really are.
Yeah, this is news to me.
(23:01):
That's why I was so I'm stillso frustrated about you know
getting not getting missing outon the deal, is because like
it's it's something else.
Jason (23:08):
It really is what happens, Jeff.
Let we'll talk.
Jeff (23:11):
Yeah, it's a really, really nice piece of gear.
Jason (23:13):
So unless you're trying to go with the three and you're
trying to go boss of the wallwith me on the three.
Jeff (23:18):
I'm just hoping that they're maybe a black.
Jason (23:20):
Let's see what the three has first, guys.
I mean, you're probably gonnasee a lot of semicubes up for
sale for close to being newprice-wise.
You know what I mean?
Like if it's 1200 or 1300 new,you're probably gonna see them
for a thousand new.
As a fellow sim racer, do notbuy right now.
(23:42):
Do not because when that threecomes out and the market is
there for the three, that priceis gonna go skyrocketing down.
And you know, we're in October.
Next month is the buying monthof the year, at least in the
United States, which is BlackFriday month.
So just hold the horses, hold,hold, hold.
(24:03):
We're definitely gonna have acoverage on that, like we did
last year.
Jeff (24:06):
It's like it's it's like Braveheart.
Hold, hold.
Jason (24:11):
No, yeah, for real.
Um, but, anyways, another pieceof news.
Um, this one's gonna be alittle bit uh just a quick deep
dive here.
Sims that don't give up.
That's probably gonna be thetitle of this of this video.
Yeah.
Race Room.
You know, even Cam Ebon waslike we have three he tried to
(24:36):
race there, and there was likemaybe three people online, which
he's probably kidding.
But race room, let me let mepull out my notes here with
this.
So everybody knows race roomfor being the free sim racing uh
game on Steam, right?
Because you don't need asubscription, you just need the
(24:58):
content.
But the content is similar toiRacing prices, however, they
came up with an idea uh tobundle now to bundle a pack that
comes with 12 cars with 27tracks, and it's called the
online racing pack.
(25:20):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna listout the cars that you get.
Oh, and guess what?
For the price of where is it?
Um I think it's like $30 US.
You get all of that.
Um, you get a Formula Race Room3, you get a Porsche 911 uh GT3
(25:40):
Cup car, and also an enduranceversion of that same car, uh
Hyundai Lantra TCR, BMW M2, uhTADIS M4, TATUS, uh BMW M4 GT3,
and NSU TTS, Audi TT Cup, Opel,Calibra.
So as you can see, guys, MazdaMX5, Volvo S40 Super Touring,
(26:04):
McLaren 570S GT4.
So you're getting a mixture ofcars.
Like I'm looking at TCR cupcars, um, the BMW has its own,
it's its own class, right?
The M2, uh, and Formula, youknow, for for one price.
And the track list, bro,Bathurst, Zandvert, Zolder,
(26:28):
Lostrazing, Daytona, Dubai,Hawkenheim, uh, Hungaro Ring,
Imola, Indianapolis, MotorSpeedway, Interlagos, Macau, uh
Mid Mid-Ohio, okay, Wanza,Aragon, Arsha Sliben, Norris
Lifa, Norris Ring, uh Nori,Norris Ring, Nurberg Ring, Red
(26:53):
Bull Ring, Road America, SatchRing, Slasburg Ring,
Silverstone, Suzuka, WatkinsGlen, and Laguna Seca for the
price of $29.99 right now.
So, I mean, if you guys weretinkering around with race room,
you like the racing.
The racing in there is actuallypretty good.
(27:14):
The physics and and the tiremodel there is actually pretty
decent.
For $30, if I'm reading thiscorrectly, let me just make
sure.
Because we don't want to do aSave Round Alibi, right?
We want to just keep it moving.
Jeff (27:30):
Um, that's a hell of a list of tracks there.
Jason (27:33):
Yeah, you get all of that for $30, if I'm not, if I'm not
mistaken here.
Um, yeah, it's priced at 30euro, 30 dollars, or 25.76
pounds, which represents a 92%discount if you were to buy
(27:55):
these on their own.
So to for those who bought thison their own, I am so sorry
about this.
I I apologize.
But for me, this is an easy $30just to mess around and to see
what you know, to see what thecontent is like, right?
The their paid content.
So that's a quick update forfor Race Room.
(28:17):
These are sims that just don'tdie, and it's a good thing, man,
because honestly, the new stuffthat's coming out is not really
the greatest stuff.
Like LMU just had an update,and it didn't really change
much.
Um, from what they added driverswaps.
You should have had that fromthe start.
Don't get me started.
(28:38):
Here we go.
Don't get me started.
You should have had that fromthe started.
This is a Laman's game, youknow.
Where's the 24-hour racing withthe swaps?
Come on, you know.
That should have been part of1.0.
So, what I'm trying to say isit's not so much a bash to LMU,
it's use what you already have.
We already have great simracing titles.
(29:01):
I think we need to stop chasingfor the brand new thing and
continue using the old thing andperfect the old thing, right?
Want to have a live coachavailable on demand?
With Trophy AI, you'll be ableto practice with Manso AI at
your convenience, a real-timecoach in your headphones to
navigate and guide you throughthe track, helping you achieve
(29:22):
race pace.
This tool is awesome as itprovides full brake, throttle,
and steering telemetry on screenwith a live review getting you
ready for your next big race.
Check links to Trophy AI in thedescription and also use
Chicane 12 in all caps for a 12%discount.
Get better at the old thing, atthe at the things at work on
(29:44):
our rig without having to spend,get a 50 90 or something like
that, or 40 90 or 40 or 50 80 ortrying to upgrade your PC.
You already have plenty of funracing on your rig right now.
So that's kind of my take with.
That's why it's a blessing tohave these Sims still care and
(30:05):
still provide updates becausethey're so they don't have to,
you know, they don't have to.
But uh yeah, that's that's mytopic for this week.
Um, I'll pass it over to Jeffto see what he got for us.
Jeff (30:17):
All right, Jason.
Hey, thanks.
Uh so mine is gonna kind of bethis will should be a just a I
guess reminder to some, and thenhopefully some other people can
be, you know, maybe the firsttime they hear it, but we're
gonna talk about iRating andyour safety rating on iRacing.
You know, a lot of these uhcategories are, you know, you
(30:38):
people know a lot about them,um, or they've you know think
they know how they work.
Um, some people probably knowexactly how they work, but I
wanted to kind of touch on theseand we're I'm gonna pull some
of this.
All this data I'm gonna talkabout will be from iRacing, uh,
the website there, and the umthe official sporting code uh
that was released here, just uhthe newest one here in
(31:00):
September.
So um yeah, Jace, you want totalk about you want to hit
anything before I jump intothis?
Jason (31:05):
Or no, I I'm just you know, guys, honestly, uh no one
knows it all, and it's good tohave a refresher.
You know, we had Cam on theshow last week, and he was
talking, he was breaking downwhat it's like to be a 10K
driver.
And sometimes, you know, it'sit's a good refresher on how
things work, or if you're new toi racing, then pay attention.
(31:27):
Um, but let's hear it, Jeff.
Jeff (31:29):
I'm good to go.
All right, so I'm gonna share ascreen here, and this is gonna
be from the actual um sportingcode.
So, Jason, you good to go?
You can see it there.
Yeah, so we're gonna firstwe're gonna cover here is i
rating.
i rating is measured of aracing skill and proficiency and
exists to ensure competitiveracing in championships by
maximizing the chances thatsimilarly similarly similarly
(31:53):
skilled drivers compete againstone another.
Every driver has a separate Irating for each racing category.
So your uh your dirt, oval,formula, and uh road car will be
all different uh ratings.
Each category-specific I ratingis automatically calculated and
updated to reflect the driver'sperformance in any race joined
in that category.
(32:14):
Only races in given categoryimpact I rating in that
category.
There is no cross-categoryinfluences.
So if you have a you knowshitty race in Oval and then you
jump into formula, your ratingwill not be impacted in formula
from that crappy race in Oval.
I ratings are prime areprimarily factor in assessing a
(32:34):
driver's uh for division foreach series in which they
compete, maximize comp tomaximize competition and
allowing members to advance tohigher divisions as their skills
improve or return to a lowerdivision if the competit
competition provides toodifficult.
I ratings are also are alsoused to gauge the level of
difficulty of a given race,influencing the calculation of
(32:57):
championship points to beawarded for each finishing
position based on the strengthof field.
So that's a big portion herewe'll talk about here in uh
straight of field.
The higher degree ofdifficulty, the more points are
available to each driver in therace.
I ratings are not visible tomembers in the rookie class.
So you have to get out of cloudrookies and get your D license
before you can officially get anI rating.
Jason (33:19):
And that's a great this is a great tip because I started
NASCAR racing and I'm I'mstarting a series.
It's very casual.
It's called Road to NASCAR, andI just stream on over the
weekends.
Sometimes we'll be in theNASCAR with the guys having fun.
And I noticed I'm like tryingto do well at the rookie and
(33:40):
trying to be safe, and then I Ithink I P1ed a race, like like
podium, P1.
Get didn't get nothing for it,bro.
Nothing.
Didn't get nothing for it.
So just keep that in mind.
And and I want to ask youbefore you continue.
Sure.
This is official documentation.
Jeff (33:59):
This is the official sporting code from iRacing.
I just read iRacing.
Jason (34:04):
Bro, this looks like a military instruction.
Look at this.
Jeff (34:07):
If you haven't read the sporting code, jump in there and
give this thing a read.
We'll leave a link.
We'll leave a link to it.
There is everything abouteverything you can possibly want
to know about iRacing and a lotof things you probably don't
give a shit about about iRacing.
And it's there you are.
Jason (34:21):
It's so it's kind of cool though.
It's kind of cool.
A game has a sim, excuse me,has a manual to it.
Jeff (34:27):
If you're not looking at the screen, there's 48 pages to
this thing.
Jason (34:31):
So oh yes, sorry.
Jeff (34:32):
Thank you, Jeff.
So back to what changes your irating?
This is 4.2.
As i rating is a measure ofcompetitiveness performance
skill, it is only adjusted up ordown whenever an event that is
demonstrated such skill iscompleted.
Only ranked events, which we'llget here in a second, that are
official adjust competitive uhcompetitors i rating.
In order for a ranked event tobe official, it must include
(34:55):
enough competitors to present achallenge.
If enough competitors arepresent in that session, the
event will become official.
You probably I'm gonna breakhere from reading.
You probably have heard that'swhat happened with me earlier or
last night was uh just couldn'tget enough people to make a
competitive race in the formularace.
So there was like two of usthat were on the track and it
didn't happen.
Sure, go ahead.
Jason (35:16):
So does the race happen and it becomes unranked, or does
it not happen?
Jeff (35:21):
So at all.
It technically happens, likeyou end up on a grid after you
qualify, um, and thenimmediately whatever happens
after that is most people justquit out and go back to try to
find another race.
But there is cars get droppedon a track.
There technically is a race, itdoesn't impact safety or your I
(35:42):
rating.
Jason (35:43):
Um, but you can still race though.
Jeff (35:45):
You can if you want to.
I mean, I did two laps withthree people and then so okay,
so for me, and then I quit andthen we were gone.
We were done.
Jason (35:51):
So when I used to race ACC on LFM, the server would
just completely cancel.
It wouldn't even it wouldn'teven let you go on track.
You know, yeah, or it wouldn'teven it would just say zero or
one out of two or whatever,like, or you know, one out of
thirty drivers, for example.
(36:12):
So that I think that's kind ofcool.
If you you know, what if youmeet up with some people in
there and you end up doing lapswith them?
You never know, so butcontinue.
Jeff (36:21):
Okay, all right.
So ranked events, which I'llget here in shortly, always
impact your safety rating, whichwell, safety rating is
separate, but we'll get intothat.
I rating is only adjusted ifthe ranked event also includes
enough participants to go, likewe said, official.
So I'm gonna go, you can I'mgonna scroll here and you're
gonna see what affects your Irating and then what affects
your safety rating, which we'llcover here shortly.
Jason (36:42):
Oh, this is awesome.
Thank you, Jeff.
Jeff (36:43):
This is so yeah.
So anytime you're gonna go,basically, I'm gonna paraphrase
here.
If you're gonna go into aniRacing official race, anytime
you jump into the technicalpractice, not an open practice,
but just a practice, everythingafter that is gonna affect your
i rating.
Now, it will affect it more inraces than in a practice
(37:07):
session.
And uh subsequently with yoursafety rating, which I'll get to
here shortly.
Um, but anytime you're gonnabasically anytime a race goes
unranked or unofficial, doesn'taffect anything.
Anytime it's a you're in aranked event, anytime you get
dropped into a practice that istech that has enough people to
be considered ranked, it's gonnaaffect your your I rating and
(37:30):
your safety.
Jason (37:30):
Your safety, though.
As well, yes.
Jeff (37:34):
It says here um driver rating adjustments yes, i rating
only affects an actual race.
Jason (37:42):
Yeah, but this is important, and it's not the
best, Jeff.
But this is important becausesometimes you think, oh, I can
just go off track and it'spractice, and it doesn't count,
right?
Oh, it sure does.
It sure does, man, becausesafety rating is important too,
it's just as important as our irating, but yeah.
Jeff (38:01):
So how your rating changes here.
I'm gonna I'll stop sharing fora second.
We can chat about this.
So your I rating changesdepending on where you finish
the race.
You finish higher than where iRacing thinks you should finish,
you gain I rating.
If you finish below where youthink they should where they
(38:21):
think you should finish, youlose I rating.
Your I rating is what you isused to put you into the
appropriate field with thestrength of um was it strength
of field?
Yeah, strength of field.
You're racing similarly skilledracers as you, so it makes it
more competitive for you.
I don't want to get dumped intowith a 10k i uh uh i rating,
(38:46):
dude.
It's not gonna be any fun forme, right?
But you do, but you do, I do,right?
Jason (38:50):
Because racing faster people because if you do well in
there, you're gonna get a shitton of i rating for that, you
know, because you're notsupposed to be there, you know.
They rank you by divisions,that's what they call it.
They call you divisions.
If you're if you're the numberone driver in the in the excuse
me, in the session, based offthe the SOF, the strength of
(39:14):
field, you better win that race.
That's like Camp, bro.
Poor Cam if you let the number10 overtake you and beat you, oh
man, bro.
You know, I think I love thatsystem.
That system makes sense, youknow.
It's not just yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, yeah, so you got mestarted.
Jeff (39:34):
I wanna it it it works great, but what also I didn't
learn, didn't know is so uh Ikind of talk a lot of you know
in the past about hey, I canqualify, I feel very high, you
know.
I feel like I qualify five orabove traditionally, but when we
race, my race pace is not thesame as well, most people
(39:58):
aren't.
But what I find is that when Ieither come up and I am in
proximity to another car, Idrive overly conservative, is
probably the right word.
Jason (40:10):
You're being you're being cautious and cautious.
Jeff (40:12):
And or if somebody's coming up behind me, and I think
part of that is I just don'twant to take somebody else out,
but I also don't want to ruin myown safety rating.
Um so what I've been what I didfor the past like two weeks was
I was like, oh, I'll use thesepractices to drive to to be
comfortable a passing people ordriving in proximity to other
(40:35):
cars.
And if I take them out, theytake me out.
It's we lose a little bit, likeI mean, it's like my
microscopic levels of safety,not really enough to even
articulate to show when yourace, it will be much more,
which we'll get into here in asecond.
But what I didn't know untilthe like the 10 days had gone
by, and I don't even know howmany of these uh things I was
(40:58):
doing, that if you do not exitthat event or that you have
registered for two minutes priorto qualifying, you technically
are in the field.
And if you quit out rightbefore qualifying, because I was
thinking, hey, I'm gonna goback and find another practice
(41:19):
so I can keep working on this toget faster.
Here I am thinking of being theresponsible one, right?
I don't want to ruin safety, Idon't want to you know, ruin I
ratings.
So I'm just going practicingwith in other fields, you know,
I'm talking to people you knowin the practice and stuff like
that.
Well, like a week and a halfgoes by, and I somehow look at
my I rating, and that's when Ilearned that if you race all the
(41:44):
way up to qualifying, even ifyou don't qualify, you still
technically are in the field.
And I was coming in last place.
I mean, this is a little bitshowing, you know, um, you know,
this is a little embarrassing,but here it was a learning
thing.
And if anybody else can learnfrom this, you know, and not
have to do it, because of Meyer,I'm I'm here for you guys.
But uh, so you took a crash ofan I rating the last 10 days.
(42:08):
So you're probably mad as hell.
Like, what am I doing wrong?
Well, the good, I mean, thegood part is is when I realized
this and I started like, I waslike, oh, I gotta race now to
get out of this, you know, thisthe men dug out the mail and
say, what's going on with this?
This is kind of easy racingbecause I was you know
artificially had dropped into alower strength of field than I
(42:30):
probably deserved to be.
Oh, you were smoking then.
Oh, I was smoking, yeah.
So uh it was a bit of adumpster fire.
I learned about it.
If you're gonna exit, you haveno intentions of racing, you're
just getting into practice, youneed to get out of there two
minutes prior to qualifying, oryou're technically gonna be part
of that field and it's gonnaaffect your i rating.
Jason (42:52):
That's a very good tip, man.
Jeff (42:54):
A little bit of humble pie, but if anybody else can
learn from it and not have to dothe same thing as I'm racing uh
strength of fields that are notso good.
Jason (43:03):
And you know, we're breaking down i rating and
numbers and safety and all thisstuff, right?
And Jeff and I, when we startediRacing, I I mean, I had an
iRacing account, but I reallystarted with him.
He started racing almost thesame time, and I wanted to race
with him, and I was like, uhscrew it, I'll jump on there
with you.
I don't have anybody racingright now on ACC.
(43:25):
So then I go over there andblah, blah, blah, and then we
start the ride the i ratinggrind.
Like a year later, Jeff and Ihave a conversation, and I was
like, what's the point?
Like, what's the point ofpaying so much attention to
this?
Just get on the track, do yourbest.
(43:45):
You know what's illegal, youknow what's not illegal, right?
And and do your best.
Don't try and you can't cheatthis system.
We we've just we've tried.
You can't cheat it.
You know, it Jason, if you ifyou know.
You and I talk all the time,Jeff, and you're like, you we
were saying, yeah, if you don't,you don't really have to, you
(44:08):
don't really have to push on thequality too much, and you know,
for me or or for you, you don'treally have to push too much in
the beginning because that'show things happen.
And I'm like, sometimes it'sjust better to approach an
event.
This is out of rookies.
If you're a rookie, forgetabout i rating.
We just told you that it don'tcount, and we showed you.
Just get out of rookie, get outof there.
(44:29):
It's ASAP.
It's more than if you P last, Plast will get you safety.
I promise you.
P last will get you out of irating, not first place.
You know, Jeff and I, we speakand we talk all the time, and
I'm like, dude, why don't wejust relax and race the best you
can to the maxim of yourabilities?
(44:50):
Don't do anything crazy ontrack, like trying to follow a
line that you know you can't do,but then push as hard as you
can too to have a good spot, andyou'll automatically be moved
into a category where you'resupposed to be, which is
strength of field.
Jeff (45:07):
That's that's you know 100%.
Yeah, it just freak on in allhonesty, just get in there and
have fun.
Yeah, get in there and havefun.
Don't read the rules, you know,drive safe, right?
But don't don't really don'tget in there to get a high rate,
don't go sim racing to get ahigh high rating or safety
rating.
You're I think you're missingthe point.
Jason (45:28):
And the license, remember, Jeff, we were talking
about this.
Jeff was like, I want that Alicense.
I want it, I want it, I wantit, I want it.
I want to drive the formulacar.
And I'm like, but you're havinga blast with this F4 car, you
sure?
You know what I mean?
And then we start to know.
Yeah.
Well, not just you.
I did the same thing.
I wanted to rush all the way upthe field so that way I can
(45:50):
race different things.
And then I noticed that I don'teven do that.
You know, I'm uh Porsche Cup isa C class event.
You don't, it's irrelevant.
Okay, you got a B, you got anA, good, good for you.
That's great.
You have a license to driveother things that are not being
driven often.
Now, GTP, that's another,that's another saga, right?
(46:12):
We gotta get you up to Alicense to do that.
Jeff (46:14):
As you should, that's a death trap.
Jason (46:16):
Yeah.
So I'm I mean, I think it's no,you're good, man.
I'm just I'm just closing in onthat that we we basically did a
mini guide here to i rate irating.
Yeah, mini guide on how to findit, how to gauge it.
But then I also want you todon't worry about it too much,
you know, in a way, you know.
(46:37):
Just know know what's gonnahappen, but how do you prevent
from how do you prevent theunpreventable?
You know what I mean?
If you're not at pace, ifyou're not at that pace, then
you don't belong there.
You don't belong in thatstrength of field yet.
But when you start racing andlearning and pushing, then
you're gonna get back there andthen you're gonna excel and
(46:59):
you're gonna go over that.
You're gonna, then you're gonnaturn back like Jeff now.
He's like, Yeah, I'm with thesestrength of field now and I'm
smoking them.
You know what I mean?
That's that's kind of how itworks.
It's a balance to it.
Jeff (47:12):
Yeah, and from somebody that was paying attention to
safety and your i rating, it Iwas putting so much value into
the race of whatever I went upor down in, not my position or
how much of fun I had.
And you know, don't miss theforest for the trees.
So all right, Jason, I'm gonnamove on to safety if your rounds
complete with i rating.
Jason (47:32):
Yeah, I think i rating is um I think we're good on i
rating.
If you guys have any questions,email the show at the
shicanepodcast at gmail uh.com.
That goes without saying forany topic.
Sorry, Jeff, go ahead,continue.
Jeff (47:46):
All right, so okay, all right, we're gonna move into uh
say your safety rating.
After a session that hasimpacted a safety rating,
iRacing will do a calculation todetermine each driver's new
safety rating.
Safety ratings, uh calculationslook at three things.
How many incidents did youreceive, how many corners did
you complete, and what type ofsession it was.
(48:07):
Incident points are the 1x, 2x,and 4x values that show up the
screen when driving.
This is like the biggestdistraction ever.
Like I'm like, oh shit, did Igo off?
Did I go off track?
I like take a peek up and I'mlike flashes, and I'm like,
damn! I'm like, throw it away.
Yeah, it does something.
I wish it stays on there for solong.
I know.
I just wish it didn't tell youuntil the end of the year.
(48:28):
Like you mess up.
I digress.
You messed up.
Jason (48:30):
You messed up.
Jeff (48:31):
These are added, these are added together to determine
your total incident count for asession.
Sometimes incident points willsay 2x with an arrow and then a
4x.
This means there was a 2x in itassessed, but it was followed
very quickly by a 4x incident.
In this case, we do not want topile on incident points, so
iracing ignores the 2x andsimply assesses a 4x penalty.
(48:55):
Since it is the greatest of theincidence values as seen during
a short time span, it is notpossible that you can be given
more than a 4x for a singleincident.
So just make sure you knowthat.
So if you bump, you know, acar, go off the track, and hit
another car, you're only gettingone 4x for that incident.
All right, back to it.
The following situations willnegatively impact your safety
(49:17):
rating by occurring racingincident points, driving off the
racing surface off the track,losing control of your car, so
if you lose the back end,contact with another object, the
wall, contact with anotherdriver, another car.
The full table of incidents canbe found at the, you know, here
into the iRacing Code.
The more incident points yourack up during a race, the more
(49:38):
negative your net safety ratingfrom that race will be.
But if you drive a clean raceand avoid these racing incidents
that we spoke to earlier, themore positive your safety net
rating will be from that race.
Keep in mind, incidents areassessed to be involved driver
individually on a no-faultbasis, no matter the
circumstance.
So what that means is if youget rear-ended in the first
(50:00):
corner, you're just as guilty,unfortunately, as the guy behind
you.
And if you want to know whyiRacing did that, go back to our
the episode where we talked toNimcross, and he does a
fantastic job of covering whyiRacing does it that way.
Jason (50:14):
The Chief Steward, too.
The number four.
That's the employee numberfour, iRacing.
So he'll tell you real quick.
Jeff (50:22):
And it makes sense once you hear it.
So it it initially it's likeyeah, that's pretty stiff, but
you he he does a great job ofexplaining it.
So jump back, jump back thereand listen to that episode.
So I'm gonna keep going, Jason.
Jason (50:32):
And a lot of people, and just real quick, just a quick
plug.
A lot of people that we'veinterviewed lately since we had
that are kind of nodding to thesame thing.
Like, hey, there's a there wassomething that happened on track
I probably could have avoided.
You know what I mean?
Now I understand the one whenyou start on the starting line
and somebody hits you on theside of the door, but things
(50:54):
happen.
Jeff (50:55):
Moving on.
It's a racing racing incident.
It you know, it kind of is whatit is, right?
Okay.
So I alluded to the things thataffect it is corner count.
Corner count, each trackconfiguration in eye racing has
a determined, defined cornermultiplier.
When assessing was whenassessing your safety rating, we
look at this corner multipliercombined with the number of laps
(51:17):
that you completed to determinethe total number of corners you
completed.
Corner multipliers that areassigned based on the complexity
of the track.
So with the relative impact ofan incident on a short track
with six corners is roughlyequal to that of an incident
with an extremely long tracklike the Nuremberg Ring or North
Life with dozens and dozens ofcorners.
(51:38):
This also applies to ovals andshort tracks with lower corners
multipliers that haveintermediate or super speedway
tracks.
So really, this is just to kindof say that you know, uh this
is a way that iRacing baselinesthe number of incidents that you
have at a very complicatedtrack and a short track to make
it same same.
Does that make sense, Jason?
Jason (51:59):
100%.
Jeff (52:00):
Okay.
Last thing here session time.
When race session incidentswill have their full effect be
applied to a driver's safetyrating.
Not all sessions operate thesame way.
Sessions with pre-racedpractice qualifying warm-up and
time trials have multipliersapplied to the reducing impact
(52:22):
of the overall incident pointsreceived from those sessions.
For example, time trialsmultiply your total incident
points received in that sessionby 0.35 before applying them to
your safety rating calculations.
Then we can, if you dig intothe bottles of the iRating
Sports Code, and you can findthose.
(52:42):
But what this is basicallysaying, that I think Jason, you
alluded to earlier, is if youcrash into somebody or go off
track in practice andorqualifying, qualifying would be
more off track.
You hit somebody in practice.
It's not gonna have a hugeimpact to your safety rating,
but it is going to impact it ata microscopic level.
There will be an impact to it.
Jason (53:04):
Right.
Jeff (53:04):
And another thing in a race will impact it a whole lot
more than so.
If you hit somebody in a race,it's gonna affect your safety
rating a lot more than it willin practice.
Go ahead, Jason.
Sorry.
Jason (53:16):
And no, you're good.
You're good.
I'm interrupting, my bad.
So um another thing that isprobably in the manual, it's
probably buried somewhere inthere.
But you also got to think ofthe length of the race.
If you're trying to grindsafety and you do 15-minute
races, it's not enough.
You know, safety is calculatedby the amount of clean laps that
(53:41):
you do lap by lap.
If it's a if it's a the 24-hourevent on there on bro, we had
we got so much safety from that.
I also did a three-hour um rentat Charlotte Rovell, and I got
1.67, which is a lot of safety.
Jeff (53:58):
That's like that's a big job.
A whole number?
Jason (54:01):
A whole number, no, like almost two, like you know, one
almost two.
Jeff (54:06):
Oh one point, yeah, sorry.
Jason (54:07):
1.67.
And it's because of the the theratio, right?
The the amount driven, thelapse driven, and the incident
counters, the ratio is like wayhigh.
So it'll it'll calculate thatway too.
I rating as well.
I rating will be warded.
You'll get a lot more I ratingon endurance races than regular
(54:30):
racing.
So just so you guys know.
You don't have to grind those15-minute races like we thought
we did.
That's why I'm mentioning this.
Jeff (54:39):
So safety is important.
Obviously, it helps to do thebiggest thing is probably your
uh promotions and demotions,which you know is kind of we can
maybe hit that with anothertopic here in the future.
Uh, you know, I just wanted tokind of additionally touch on to
what affects safety uh and yourI rating, but it definitely
your safety is a big portioninto your promotion into uh
(55:01):
going up and down licenseclasses.
Jason (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, man.
And to me, it's just asimportant.
Um because again, if if youhave a high safety rating, and
now you know we have DanielNewman racing dashboards, lovely
dashboards as well, show thisdata, and they will show you the
I rating of the car that'sbehind you.
(55:25):
And if that guy is like it'sbadass, if he's like a one, you
better watch out with this guy.
He's a little reckless.
But if the guy behind you haslike a three or a 3.5, then that
gives you a little better idea.
Also, crew chief will tell youif the if the driver behind you
is reckless or not.
I didn't say it.
It was you know, Jim said that,Jimbo.
(55:47):
So I think um, I think uh Ithink we're pretty much good
with this, huh?
What do you think, Jeff?
Jeff (55:55):
Yeah, I think I've uh uh I've covered it.
If you guys got any questions,you know, either uh send an
email uh or a comment and we canuh get back with you.
But I think everybody get inthere and read the um sporting
code for iRacing.
We can link that in thedescription.
Jason (56:09):
Okay.
Um again, guys.
Um, next episode we will becovering uh question that was
sent to us.
So for though for that recentperson that did send us an
email, um, we will definitelyaddress that.
And track of the week is stillhere again, just a lot of moving
things, you know.
Um we've had Jeff on travel andEric's departure.
(56:33):
So I've been trying to catch upwith with everything, but today
was a great episode.
Um, thank you so much, Jeff,for for providing all the info
today.
And yeah, man, if you guys haveany more questions about
anything that we cover today,just send us an email at the
shikanepodcast at gmail.com orleave a comment below and we'll
(56:54):
address that right away.
Um, as well in live streams.
If I'm on live stream and youcatch me, feel free to just as
you know, ask me a question.
I'm I'll answer you right away,live and in the flesh.
So again, uh Jeff, thank you somuch.
Yes, um, I appreciateeverything.
And guys, stay tuned.
(57:15):
Uh, we'll have we have a lotmore planned for you, uh,
especially now as the holidaysapproach.
We definitely have some morethings coming.
And October is known for themonth of reveals and product
reveals in the simracing world.
So please keep it locked tighthere.
And uh, yeah, we'll be backhere next Monday.
(57:37):
Thank you so much, everyone,and have a great start of your
week.
Thank you.
This episode is brought to you by Trophy AI, the
ultimate performance coach toolfor simracers.
Hello, and welcome to theChicane Podcast, where we
(00:36):
discuss all things in thisin-racing world.
I'm your host, Jason Rivera andI'm joined here by Mr.
Jeff Smart.
How's it going, Jeff?
Jeff (00:43):
Dude.
How was your weekend, bud?
Dude, life is just whipping by.
It feels like, you know, we'rewe just record when we get here
and record again, and it's like,man, it's been a week already.
Jason (00:53):
I know, man.
And especially you that you'vebeen on some world traveler here
we have here, man.
It's kind of awesome.
Jeff (01:00):
Uh yeah, I uh I am separating from the the military
here, the Air Force, and uh thefirst day of you know, the the
the vacation you get or the timeyou saved up, uh my wife and I
spent on a little little uhtrip.
We went to um to BangkokThailand and then to uh Taipei,
Taiwan.
So we had a couple days in eachlocation.
(01:21):
Awesome to just you know getaway, no kids, um, just cruise
around, eat a lot of good streetfood, um, just kind of
disconnect.
So it was great.
It was a lot of fun.
So, but I'm ready to get backto it.
I've been missing, missed therig uh while I was gone, ready
to get back into it.
And uh, I think we got a prettybanger of an episode here.
But uh what you been up to,buddy?
Jason (01:41):
Yeah, I mean, just uh it's it's it's crazy because
this happens to me, man.
I go on vacation, and you wouldthink that, hey, I I I'm gonna
enjoy myself and step away fromthe daily routine of things, but
then you start thinking, or avideo pops up, or a post, and
you're like, man, I want to trythis and I'm not home right now.
(02:04):
And then this was Jeff, by theway, texting me, let back and
forth.
Um, I'm trying to get him intoGTPs because I think GTPs is the
next best thing.
Um compare comparing it to aformula car, right?
Because formula grids are kindof low on not just iRacing, just
in general, Formula Onespecifically.
(02:24):
I know formula cars are prettyhealthy, like the F4 car or the
F3s or the Super Light,whatever.
Um so yeah, I'm trying to justuh teasing him with some GTPs.
Then he comes over and I threwhim in another GTP, and he was
he was like, yo, this thing iscrazy.
And I was like, Yeah, there'sthis fast cars too, man.
(02:45):
Like road cars, you know.
Jeff (02:47):
Bro, that car, the moment you get in that car, it's trying
to kill you.
Yeah, it's a handful.
It's a handful.
Jason (02:53):
It very much like you know, the was it the W13 weiter,
you need to be on your A gameall the time, all the time 100%
precision, but uh yeah, I mean,as you could tell, um it's been
two weeks and Jeff's been awayon vacation, and we've been a
little behind on the news justbecause of the way the show
(03:16):
releases episodes.
Um, and we have some news foryou.
Um, Mr.
Eric Kelly has decided ontaking another another another
path, right?
Um, and on his journey as a inthe content creator world.
So he has decided uh to nolonger be a part of the Shicane
podcast.
And I want to say on behalf ofJeff and I now that we
(03:40):
appreciate everything that he'sdone up until the last day.
And I wish him luck.
I want him to succeed, I wanthim to prevail on on all his
endeavors.
So show him some love, followhim on his on his YouTube
channels.
Um, he has two of them.
He has the uh the techgentleman and he has tech gent
(04:00):
gaming and show your love andappreciation on on that side of
the world.
And that's really on that sideof the, you know, on his side,
if you may.
So he will be missed, but theshow must go on.
And the Shakeane Podcast willbe here to deliver content every
single Monday, just as just asmuch as it did um since it
(04:21):
started.
So that is my announcement fortoday.
Jeff, what do you got?
Jeff (04:27):
Oh man, that's about uh you know, Eric, we wish you the
best, buddy.
Uh, we'll miss you.
Um, no, man, just kind of youknow getting back into it.
Uh kind of what you uh todouble tap what you said about
the uh formula grids running alittle light is uh had a couple
races yesterday, last night thatdidn't go official, just didn't
(04:47):
have enough people.
Super disappointing.
Um, you know, the was it the SF23 on the Red Bull ring?
Super cool car on a greattrack, and just didn't get
enough people to make a grid.
Jason (05:00):
I mean, bro, think about it.
So we have a topic today,specifically you're covering.
And you gotta think that thethe splits on these cars is
carnage, you know, and a lot ofpeople get scared, they don't
want to ruin their I rating bygoing in there, you know what I
mean?
Because it's it's a handful ofa car, you know what I mean?
(05:22):
And it's kind of like, man, doI really want to put my you and
I are here for the thrill.
That's the thing.
You just want to go in thereand and do your thing and and
take care of business.
But some people like, you know,some people we just interviewed
a 10K driver, you know, he'she's not afraid of anything, you
know.
And shout out to Cam.
That man, that man's not afraidof nothing, but there's not a
(05:45):
lot of people like that, whichis why there's not a lot of 10Ks
out there, you know what Imean?
But we'll get more into that.
Um, yeah, I think uh I thinkyou had an announcement, Jeff,
real quick.
Uh it was uh something to dowith uh Max and Chris, you know.
Jeff (06:02):
Yeah, so uh, you know, some people may have heard, some
people uh maybe may have not,but uh Max Verstappen, maybe
you've heard of him um from timeto time.
Most maybe you have, maybe youhaven't, you know, who knows?
But uh if him and his if we'repaying for it.
Turns out maybe uh maybe peoplehave heard of him.
Uh but yeah, him and I'mprobably gonna mess up his last
name, but Chris Lullum uh racedin their first GT3 race at um uh
(06:31):
god, I can't think of uhpronounce it or uh think of it
on the case.
So Nurberg, right?
Nurberg, excuse me.
Yeah, I the ring, bro.
The green hell.
I I saw the the the the theshape of the track, it just
wouldn't come out.
Um yeah, it it turns out thosetwo SOBs are pretty good at
driving damn near anything.
Okay, they went out there andwon it.
Jason (06:51):
All right.
I'm gonna say something rathercontroversial right away.
Jeff (06:54):
Uh I I I'm gonna say something caught pretty
controversial, probably theother way, is let's hear it.
Like or hate Max, that you it'shard to hate on him when he
just appreciates and likesracing anything, right?
He he obviously the dude isabove average racing his Red
Bull car in F1.
Um but he gets out of there,drives to the sim till like
(07:18):
midnight, gets back in the F1car the next day, but then like
on an off weekend, jumps intoGT3 and wins the race.
You know, it I I'm starting tolike him just as a dude that is
like just a dude's dude thatjust put me behind a wheel or
anything.
I don't really care what it is,I'm gonna drive the piss out of
it, and I'm probably gonna beatyou.
Jason (07:37):
I I'm telling you now that mine is a hundred percent
left field, bro.
Okay.
So he he he wins the race andeverything, but he didn't set
any records.
And he um, and I'm extra hardon him because I can't stand Max
Verstappen.
This is not uh a secret, youknow.
Uh he he is who he is, and he'sa great driver when there's no
(08:00):
one in front of him, sure.
Yes, in the clean air, he is aspeed demon.
So it, you know, I'm prettysure I'm gonna I'm gonna take
some some some comment uh karmafor this, but uh yeah, I believe
that you know IMSA racing isnot the richest sport, right?
It doesn't bring numbers likeformula does, in my opinion.
(08:24):
I think you can agree with mehere.
Um what we do need is like adrive to survive IMSA.
Jeff (08:31):
That would be cool to see behind the scenes and to the
garage.
And so I think go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say it's probabthese dudes probably have to
those.
You think that all those guysare full-time drivers?
They probably have like real, Isay real jobs outside of so I
maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
Um, but yeah, I drive tosurvive behind the scenes for
(08:54):
Imza would be freaking badass.
It would be dope, right?
Jason (08:57):
And this, you know, and it's kind of like they don't get
that there's a lot of talent inin those cars, and that in
that, you know, on that side ofthe fence, right?
So then I I see it like theysent Max an invitation because
they want you know the the fame,they want the spotlight on it,
you know, more, and they want itmore so when he wins.
(09:20):
That's all I'm gonna say.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Jeff (09:23):
If you know, yeah, but he so he had to what qualify or not
qualify, but uh is it uh andI'm gonna get probably roasted
here for not do knowing thedetails here, but he qualified
the day before, the weekendbefore, right, to get his
license for the track.
Um it was yeah, it was quick.
So he did legitimately qualifyfor the race.
Jason (09:46):
And well, I didn't say he's not competent to drive one,
I'm just saying that for him tobeat out people that are doing
this every single year, it's alittle sus, you know, just a
hint of sus on that.
You know, you know what I'msaying?
Jeff (10:01):
All right.
Jason (10:02):
Well, let us know in the comments what you think of uh
you know, because Cam, Cam, Cam,the the real pro driver that we
interviewed here, he said ithimself.
He's like, if I got into apeacup, that's not 10k driving,
bro.
You know what I mean?
You see what I mean?
And that's a real answer.
So it, you know, Max is Max isa young, he's still young in a
(10:25):
career.
He he still has a lot to me.
He has a lot to prove.
You know, he's not thephenomena that we think he is.
I hope he is, because we alwaysneed that guy, right?
We always need, we always needthat guy.
It now it's yeah, it's it'sMax.
Before Max, it was Schumacher.
Before it was Schumacher, itwas Senna, and so on and so
(10:47):
forth.
They hated them.
They hated them until they've,you know, something happened to
them, and then they're like, yo,that was a legend, you know,
gotta respect them.
But so they were racing, bro.
Jeff (10:57):
Fair.
I think we're glazing over,we're missing a point here, too,
is that Chris, uh, you know,his co-driver is, or I don't
want to say was, because he'snot a he does definitely have
some background in real liferacing, I think carding and some
F4.
Um, but this dude predominantlythe last couple years has been
a sim driver.
You know, he I think he driveswith Max on his team.
(11:19):
And then this dude got backinto you know a GT3.
I mean, that's that's a bigjump from sim racing to a real
GT3 race.
So um super cool.
Um, I think we're gonna onlysee more of these, right?
Jason (11:31):
As dudes that are predominantly sim racers,
they're legitimizing it.
You know, that's what they'redoing.
Jeff (11:36):
100%.
And I think that's I Idefinitely want to make sure
that we brought up that pointthat uh, you know, that is the
main point.
Don't listen to me.
Jason (11:43):
I'm just uh I'm just angry that he wants and it's
been a while too.
It's been a few days to sleepit off.
I still haven't slept it off.
Jeff (11:52):
But uh big gulp of hater aid uh max there.
Yeah, but yeah, it's cool.
We'll so hopefully we'll seemore of this sim racers turning
real car real world racedrivers, race car drivers.
Jason (12:04):
Okay, so today um we have a uh simdistry update.
Again, Jeff is taking the uhthe honors here, and I I'm
happy.
I'm happy to hand it over toyou, sir.
Jeff (12:16):
Yeah, you know, there's this there's this game out
there, AMS2, that's been a goodthing.
They don't quit, bro.
Jason (12:22):
They're not quitting, they don't quit.
Jeff (12:24):
Keep pushing out updates.
Um, so we got update 1.6.8.
Uh came out early October.
I think it was the third.
Don't quote me on it.
But, anyways, they released anupdate for Autoballista 2, along
with the Lamborghini Dream PackPart 2 DLC.
Um, they added four more newLamborghini cars, notably the
(12:47):
Merced R go uh R GT, a previewof the upcoming GT1 2025 class
with more endurance content toarrive in late October.
So here we are.
Um probably getting anotherupdate from AMS in a couple
weeks.
Jason (13:02):
So we got a roadmap.
That's crazy.
Jeff (13:05):
Yeah.
So the update also bringsimprovements to AI behavior,
enhancements to the singleplayer, um, and ground uh laying
the groundwork for a 2026career mode.
So that's pretty cool.
Um, provides multiplayer stabilstabil stability and force.
Stability, stability,stability, uh, as well as with
(13:26):
some physics and force feedbackupdates.
So um super cool stuff thatthey're providing and updates.
You know, this game's just likeI I think I've always said if I
had to pick one sim to play andI couldn't play anything else
forever, it's probably a tiebetween AMS2 and uh the original
AC content manager.
Jason (13:46):
Wait, content manager, yeah.
Jeff (13:48):
It has to be content manager.
Jason (13:49):
Um, but yeah, the VR experience in AC is unmatched,
bro.
I need to get in there morebecause I drive the shit out of
the uh how is it that I can getout of a I I know we've said
this many times.
Just the other day, I you know,I just the other day, which is
great.
Thank you for providing thisinformation, bro.
Appreciate you.
(14:10):
But just the other day, Ihooked up the VR headset just
because I was like, man, uhokay, I'll I'll spill the beans
here.
Uh, we're not ready to talkabout it just yet, but we will
get to it.
But Jeff and I, probably thetwo souls in Hawaii that ordered
a bell tensioner, the twosouls.
They were probably looking atwhat is these two packages going
(14:31):
to Hawaii?
Jeff (14:32):
You knuckleheads couldn't have packaged us together and
shaved shipping?
No.
Jason (14:36):
You know, it's funny, and I won't mention, I won't
mention the the name because youknow, but I I spoke to the guy
on the phone, and I was like,hey, you know, just I was I was
talking about some somethingthat he's that he had at the
expo, and it was like thesecushion belts, right?
And they were custom ones.
He was he was bragging aboutthem.
He was like, hey, you know,these are custom, and and and I
(15:00):
put them on, and I'm like, wow,that's really freaking
comfortable.
So I called him up, and then hewas laughing on the phone.
He was like, bro, you you youyou were the guy that ordered
from Hawaii?
Do you know the other guy?
I was like, Yeah, I do.
You know, he's he's on the showwith me.
We we met you at the expo.
He's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, Iremember.
Then he's like, bro, you know,we had to cancel all shipments
(15:22):
to Hawaii when we seen what itcost us, what it really cost.
And I was dying, yo.
He was like, it was like, he'slike, whatever you paid, we paid
like almost double the price.
I was like, God bless Jeff.
Jeff was like, Jeff influencedme to order the belt tensioner.
And we won't get into thedetails, but this is funny as
(15:45):
shit, and I gotta say it here onthe show because this this is
straight no chaser, always.
But Jeff is like, I love thebelts, right?
He's he's using them and he'strying them out and he's
tweaking them.
And then he's like, dude, my mymy harness is I I got the wrong
harness.
He says, I need I need one.
Uh I need you know where I'mgoing with it, Jeff.
(16:07):
He's like, I need one that hugsthe crotch area, but in a very
different term.
I almost had a damn heartattack when I heard what he
said.
And then he says, Yeah, dude,it really grabs you there.
And then I was like, he's like,You want to come over and try
it?
And I was like, Hell no, thatlink just became freaking
(16:29):
personal as shit.
I ain't going over there.
I was like, listen, I'd ratherpay the money and get it over
here.
And I believe you, I trust you,I trust you.
We we speak every week on thepodcast.
You're good.
We we use them, we're good,we're good.
So more to follow on that.
I mean, that was I thought thatwas kind of cool.
So, yeah, but we kind of foryou other Hawaii sim racers out
(16:51):
there, uh, yeah.
If you happen to find thisparticular dealer, the prices
might go up a little bit forshipping.
You might want to order itright away if if you haven't
already.
Jeff (17:02):
So no, I think that that that episode is gonna be uh a
banger of that episode when wegive you know kind of some
feedback on the belt tensioners.
I think it's we'll look forwardto that one too.
Jason (17:12):
Oh, yeah.
We're gonna have some deep divediscussions about it.
Um, but we're safe to move onfrom AMS too, right?
Or do we want to cover anythingelse?
Jeff (17:21):
Yeah, I mean, just real quick, I'm not gonna get too
much into uh they just did dosome, I guess, uh bundling, DL
DC, DLC bundling uh a little bitdifferently.
So they're just bundling umsome of their new uh not the
some of their new, but all oftheir tracks and cars.
So it may, if you get intoSteam and you know get in there
and look at their DLCs, uh, itmight look a little bit
(17:43):
different.
Um, it is.
They are have not added any newtracks to it um or games
outside of or excuse me, uh carsoutside of the recent update,
uh, but it might look different.
They're just bundling things alittle bit differently.
They're putting, you know, IMSAbundles um and things like
that.
So uh just a small ad there.
That kind of wraps up oursimdistry news for this week,
(18:05):
unless Jason, you got anythingelse to add?
Jason (18:07):
No, I think that's fair enough.
I I do want to just do a hardupdate on just the loss of time
here that we've had, just youknow, from the weeks uh we came
back from the expo, and thenJeff had a trip.
So we it all worked outmagically in the background.
Um, but you know, Simicube onour last episode we mentioned
(18:29):
that there was a uh surpriseunveiling, but it's no surprise,
it's actually confirmed.
There's a Simicube 3 comingout, and you can sign up on the
Simicube website, I believe, um,for emails, and you can
actually watch the unveilinghappen at the German expo, which
(18:50):
uh the uh the Sim Racing Expoin Germany.
Um I think it's on uh October9th.
So by the time this airs, it'llstill be relevant news, making
sure of that, making sure wedon't go over.
Um, but yeah, it is a Semic3base, and I'm very curious
because we asked the CEO thequestion, and he said one day,
(19:13):
and this is that one day, and itwasn't too long, right?
That's why, that's why he hadthat long pause.
Ah, I see.
Jeff (19:19):
It's like I'm not gonna knock not let this one go
public.
Jason (19:23):
While he was saying uh he was he was he was envisioning
it in his head, like, yeah, Iknow what it looks like.
Everything was flashing by allthe destruction manuals and
everything was just goingthrough his head.
Like, I know what it is, but Ican't tell you.
Jeff (19:36):
It didn't get leaked too far after too far after that.
Jason (19:39):
I don't think the leak was supposed to happen.
I think that it got it gotleaked, and that basically put
the finger on them to say weneed to respond about this now,
you know what I mean?
Like right now.
So yeah.
So that's just a quickcatch-up.
Jeff (19:57):
Um I'm still a little sore about not getting in on the uh
the ultimate change.
Jason (20:04):
On the deal, bro.
So at the expo, I don't know ifwe covered this, but so dude,
I'm still salty about this.
They unboxed Simicube 2's pros,not the sport, the pros.
Uh left all the stickers onthem, kept all the boxes, kept
all the everything, even thewarranty, bro.
(20:25):
Even the warranty.
Jeff (20:27):
It was what how many sim race, how many uh rigs did they
have just for the racing or theyou know, the uh uh maybe it was
like 30 something rigs, bro.
Jason (20:37):
Yeah, we're not talking like five or six, yeah.
It was like 30 rigs, you know,and on top of that, they had
simicus across the the floorspace, you know.
They were being used, it wasway more than 30, bro.
It was like 50.
Jeff (20:51):
I wouldn't say it was up there, but anyways, yeah, they
were simic was like, Yeah, weain't bringing these home 690.
What was it?
690, 650, something like that.
Jason (21:01):
It was like half off.
It was like 600, it's like 599or something.
Jeff (21:04):
Yep.
Um take them in, take them homewith you.
Jason (21:07):
And I was like, I hate that morning.
Yeah, dude.
And I'm so sorry, bro.
And even if you couldn't havetaken it, they would have
shipped it for you, they wouldhave packaged it up in its
original packaging, shipped it,send you an invoice, like if you
would have purchased it brandnew, meaning that has a hundred
percent warranty.
(21:27):
You know, semicolons is smartbecause they knew that that
three was coming out.
That was a good way to offloadthese quickly.
Jeff (21:35):
Well, if they want to offload a couple more at that
point, let's do it.
Please, by all means.
Jason (21:40):
Well, I'll tell you what, um the semicon three coming
out, and if you guys werethinking about a semicube two,
if you were in that range, Iwould still suggest a
semiconduo.
It's not that because the threeis here that you're gonna have
to run to get the three.
The two is amazing, however,comma in this house, you already
(22:05):
know what's going down, Jeff.
So we might have one for salefor you.
Okay.
Jeff (22:10):
You know, because we have this argument all the time, uh,
you know, the the Simicube, youknow, versus you know,
everything else.
And I was like, it's not worthit, it's not worth the the
premium price that they have onit.
And you know, um, Simicube isunapologetically, hey, we are
not the entry point into SimRacing, we are the premier.
(22:31):
When you're ready to investinto the high-end product, give
us a call and we got a productfor you.
Jason (22:36):
100%.
They tell you that straight up,they're not riding it.
Jeff (22:39):
Yeah.
I mean, I got to jump into Idon't know how many rigs at the
expo, and damn near every singleone was a simicube.
And I was blown away.
And I've gotten to Jason's, buta lot of times when I get into
Jason's rig, I'm overwhelmed byall the other shit going on.
Oh but uh no, I would I am asimicube believer now in that it
that they really are.
Yeah, this is news to me.
(23:01):
That's why I was so I'm stillso frustrated about you know
getting not getting missing outon the deal, is because like
it's it's something else.
Jason (23:08):
It really is what happens, Jeff.
Let we'll talk.
Jeff (23:11):
Yeah, it's a really, really nice piece of gear.
Jason (23:13):
So unless you're trying to go with the three and you're
trying to go boss of the wallwith me on the three.
Jeff (23:18):
I'm just hoping that they're maybe a black.
Jason (23:20):
Let's see what the three has first, guys.
I mean, you're probably gonnasee a lot of semicubes up for
sale for close to being newprice-wise.
You know what I mean?
Like if it's 1200 or 1300 new,you're probably gonna see them
for a thousand new.
As a fellow sim racer, do notbuy right now.
(23:42):
Do not because when that threecomes out and the market is
there for the three, that priceis gonna go skyrocketing down.
And you know, we're in October.
Next month is the buying monthof the year, at least in the
United States, which is BlackFriday month.
So just hold the horses, hold,hold, hold.
(24:03):
We're definitely gonna have acoverage on that, like we did
last year.
Jeff (24:06):
It's like it's it's like Braveheart.
Hold, hold.
Jason (24:11):
No, yeah, for real.
Um, but, anyways, another pieceof news.
Um, this one's gonna be alittle bit uh just a quick deep
dive here.
Sims that don't give up.
That's probably gonna be thetitle of this of this video.
Yeah.
Race Room.
You know, even Cam Ebon waslike we have three he tried to
(24:36):
race there, and there was likemaybe three people online, which
he's probably kidding.
But race room, let me let mepull out my notes here with
this.
So everybody knows race roomfor being the free sim racing uh
game on Steam, right?
Because you don't need asubscription, you just need the
(24:58):
content.
But the content is similar toiRacing prices, however, they
came up with an idea uh tobundle now to bundle a pack that
comes with 12 cars with 27tracks, and it's called the
online racing pack.
(25:20):
And I'm gonna I'm gonna listout the cars that you get.
Oh, and guess what?
For the price of where is it?
Um I think it's like $30 US.
You get all of that.
Um, you get a Formula Race Room3, you get a Porsche 911 uh GT3
(25:40):
Cup car, and also an enduranceversion of that same car, uh
Hyundai Lantra TCR, BMW M2, uhTADIS M4, TATUS, uh BMW M4 GT3,
and NSU TTS, Audi TT Cup, Opel,Calibra.
So as you can see, guys, MazdaMX5, Volvo S40 Super Touring,
(26:04):
McLaren 570S GT4.
So you're getting a mixture ofcars.
Like I'm looking at TCR cupcars, um, the BMW has its own,
it's its own class, right?
The M2, uh, and Formula, youknow, for for one price.
And the track list, bro,Bathurst, Zandvert, Zolder,
(26:28):
Lostrazing, Daytona, Dubai,Hawkenheim, uh, Hungaro Ring,
Imola, Indianapolis, MotorSpeedway, Interlagos, Macau, uh
Mid Mid-Ohio, okay, Wanza,Aragon, Arsha Sliben, Norris
Lifa, Norris Ring, uh Nori,Norris Ring, Nurberg Ring, Red
(26:53):
Bull Ring, Road America, SatchRing, Slasburg Ring,
Silverstone, Suzuka, WatkinsGlen, and Laguna Seca for the
price of $29.99 right now.
So, I mean, if you guys weretinkering around with race room,
you like the racing.
The racing in there is actuallypretty good.
(27:14):
The physics and and the tiremodel there is actually pretty
decent.
For $30, if I'm reading thiscorrectly, let me just make
sure.
Because we don't want to do aSave Round Alibi, right?
We want to just keep it moving.
Jeff (27:30):
Um, that's a hell of a list of tracks there.
Jason (27:33):
Yeah, you get all of that for $30, if I'm not, if I'm not
mistaken here.
Um, yeah, it's priced at 30euro, 30 dollars, or 25.76
pounds, which represents a 92%discount if you were to buy
(27:55):
these on their own.
So to for those who bought thison their own, I am so sorry
about this.
I I apologize.
But for me, this is an easy $30just to mess around and to see
what you know, to see what thecontent is like, right?
The their paid content.
So that's a quick update forfor Race Room.
(28:17):
These are sims that just don'tdie, and it's a good thing, man,
because honestly, the new stuffthat's coming out is not really
the greatest stuff.
Like LMU just had an update,and it didn't really change
much.
Um, from what they added driverswaps.
You should have had that fromthe start.
Don't get me started.
(28:38):
Here we go.
Don't get me started.
You should have had that fromthe started.
This is a Laman's game, youknow.
Where's the 24-hour racing withthe swaps?
Come on, you know.
That should have been part of1.0.
So, what I'm trying to say isit's not so much a bash to LMU,
it's use what you already have.
We already have great simracing titles.
(29:01):
I think we need to stop chasingfor the brand new thing and
continue using the old thing andperfect the old thing, right?
Want to have a live coachavailable on demand?
With Trophy AI, you'll be ableto practice with Manso AI at
your convenience, a real-timecoach in your headphones to
navigate and guide you throughthe track, helping you achieve
(29:22):
race pace.
This tool is awesome as itprovides full brake, throttle,
and steering telemetry on screenwith a live review getting you
ready for your next big race.
Check links to Trophy AI in thedescription and also use
Chicane 12 in all caps for a 12%discount.
Get better at the old thing, atthe at the things at work on
(29:44):
our rig without having to spend,get a 50 90 or something like
that, or 40 90 or 40 or 50 80 ortrying to upgrade your PC.
You already have plenty of funracing on your rig right now.
So that's kind of my take with.
That's why it's a blessing tohave these Sims still care and
(30:05):
still provide updates becausethey're so they don't have to,
you know, they don't have to.
But uh yeah, that's that's mytopic for this week.
Um, I'll pass it over to Jeffto see what he got for us.
Jeff (30:17):
All right, Jason.
Hey, thanks.
Uh so mine is gonna kind of bethis will should be a just a I
guess reminder to some, and thenhopefully some other people can
be, you know, maybe the firsttime they hear it, but we're
gonna talk about iRating andyour safety rating on iRacing.
You know, a lot of these uhcategories are, you know, you
(30:38):
people know a lot about them,um, or they've you know think
they know how they work.
Um, some people probably knowexactly how they work, but I
wanted to kind of touch on theseand we're I'm gonna pull some
of this.
All this data I'm gonna talkabout will be from iRacing, uh,
the website there, and the umthe official sporting code uh
that was released here, just uhthe newest one here in
(31:00):
September.
So um yeah, Jace, you want totalk about you want to hit
anything before I jump intothis?
Jason (31:05):
Or no, I I'm just you know, guys, honestly, uh no one
knows it all, and it's good tohave a refresher.
You know, we had Cam on theshow last week, and he was
talking, he was breaking downwhat it's like to be a 10K
driver.
And sometimes, you know, it'sit's a good refresher on how
things work, or if you're new toi racing, then pay attention.
(31:27):
Um, but let's hear it, Jeff.
Jeff (31:29):
I'm good to go.
All right, so I'm gonna share ascreen here, and this is gonna
be from the actual um sportingcode.
So, Jason, you good to go?
You can see it there.
Yeah, so we're gonna firstwe're gonna cover here is i
rating.
i rating is measured of aracing skill and proficiency and
exists to ensure competitiveracing in championships by
maximizing the chances thatsimilarly similarly similarly
(31:53):
skilled drivers compete againstone another.
Every driver has a separate Irating for each racing category.
So your uh your dirt, oval,formula, and uh road car will be
all different uh ratings.
Each category-specific I ratingis automatically calculated and
updated to reflect the driver'sperformance in any race joined
in that category.
(32:14):
Only races in given categoryimpact I rating in that
category.
There is no cross-categoryinfluences.
So if you have a you knowshitty race in Oval and then you
jump into formula, your ratingwill not be impacted in formula
from that crappy race in Oval.
I ratings are prime areprimarily factor in assessing a
(32:34):
driver's uh for division foreach series in which they
compete, maximize comp tomaximize competition and
allowing members to advance tohigher divisions as their skills
improve or return to a lowerdivision if the competit
competition provides toodifficult.
I ratings are also are alsoused to gauge the level of
difficulty of a given race,influencing the calculation of
(32:57):
championship points to beawarded for each finishing
position based on the strengthof field.
So that's a big portion herewe'll talk about here in uh
straight of field.
The higher degree ofdifficulty, the more points are
available to each driver in therace.
I ratings are not visible tomembers in the rookie class.
So you have to get out of cloudrookies and get your D license
before you can officially get anI rating.
Jason (33:19):
And that's a great this is a great tip because I started
NASCAR racing and I'm I'mstarting a series.
It's very casual.
It's called Road to NASCAR, andI just stream on over the
weekends.
Sometimes we'll be in theNASCAR with the guys having fun.
And I noticed I'm like tryingto do well at the rookie and
(33:40):
trying to be safe, and then I Ithink I P1ed a race, like like
podium, P1.
Get didn't get nothing for it,bro.
Nothing.
Didn't get nothing for it.
So just keep that in mind.
And and I want to ask youbefore you continue.
Sure.
This is official documentation.
Jeff (33:59):
This is the official sporting code from iRacing.
I just read iRacing.
Jason (34:04):
Bro, this looks like a military instruction.
Look at this.
Jeff (34:07):
If you haven't read the sporting code, jump in there and
give this thing a read.
We'll leave a link.
We'll leave a link to it.
There is everything abouteverything you can possibly want
to know about iRacing and a lotof things you probably don't
give a shit about about iRacing.
And it's there you are.
Jason (34:21):
It's so it's kind of cool though.
It's kind of cool.
A game has a sim, excuse me,has a manual to it.
Jeff (34:27):
If you're not looking at the screen, there's 48 pages to
this thing.
Jason (34:31):
So oh yes, sorry.
Jeff (34:32):
Thank you, Jeff.
So back to what changes your irating?
This is 4.2.
As i rating is a measure ofcompetitiveness performance
skill, it is only adjusted up ordown whenever an event that is
demonstrated such skill iscompleted.
Only ranked events, which we'llget here in a second, that are
official adjust competitive uhcompetitors i rating.
In order for a ranked event tobe official, it must include
(34:55):
enough competitors to present achallenge.
If enough competitors arepresent in that session, the
event will become official.
You probably I'm gonna breakhere from reading.
You probably have heard that'swhat happened with me earlier or
last night was uh just couldn'tget enough people to make a
competitive race in the formularace.
So there was like two of usthat were on the track and it
didn't happen.
Sure, go ahead.
Jason (35:16):
So does the race happen and it becomes unranked, or does
it not happen?
Jeff (35:21):
So at all.
It technically happens, likeyou end up on a grid after you
qualify, um, and thenimmediately whatever happens
after that is most people justquit out and go back to try to
find another race.
But there is cars get droppedon a track.
There technically is a race, itdoesn't impact safety or your I
(35:42):
rating.
Jason (35:43):
Um, but you can still race though.
Jeff (35:45):
You can if you want to.
I mean, I did two laps withthree people and then so okay,
so for me, and then I quit andthen we were gone.
We were done.
Jason (35:51):
So when I used to race ACC on LFM, the server would
just completely cancel.
It wouldn't even it wouldn'teven let you go on track.
You know, yeah, or it wouldn'teven it would just say zero or
one out of two or whatever,like, or you know, one out of
thirty drivers, for example.
(36:12):
So that I think that's kind ofcool.
If you you know, what if youmeet up with some people in
there and you end up doing lapswith them?
You never know, so butcontinue.
Jeff (36:21):
Okay, all right.
So ranked events, which I'llget here in shortly, always
impact your safety rating, whichwell, safety rating is
separate, but we'll get intothat.
I rating is only adjusted ifthe ranked event also includes
enough participants to go, likewe said, official.
So I'm gonna go, you can I'mgonna scroll here and you're
gonna see what affects your Irating and then what affects
your safety rating, which we'llcover here shortly.
Jason (36:42):
Oh, this is awesome.
Thank you, Jeff.
Jeff (36:43):
This is so yeah.
So anytime you're gonna go,basically, I'm gonna paraphrase
here.
If you're gonna go into aniRacing official race, anytime
you jump into the technicalpractice, not an open practice,
but just a practice, everythingafter that is gonna affect your
i rating.
Now, it will affect it more inraces than in a practice
(37:07):
session.
And uh subsequently with yoursafety rating, which I'll get to
here shortly.
Um, but anytime you're gonnabasically anytime a race goes
unranked or unofficial, doesn'taffect anything.
Anytime it's a you're in aranked event, anytime you get
dropped into a practice that istech that has enough people to
be considered ranked, it's gonnaaffect your your I rating and
(37:30):
your safety.
Jason (37:30):
Your safety, though.
As well, yes.
Jeff (37:34):
It says here um driver rating adjustments yes, i rating
only affects an actual race.
Jason (37:42):
Yeah, but this is important, and it's not the
best, Jeff.
But this is important becausesometimes you think, oh, I can
just go off track and it'spractice, and it doesn't count,
right?
Oh, it sure does.
It sure does, man, becausesafety rating is important too,
it's just as important as our irating, but yeah.
Jeff (38:01):
So how your rating changes here.
I'm gonna I'll stop sharing fora second.
We can chat about this.
So your I rating changesdepending on where you finish
the race.
You finish higher than where iRacing thinks you should finish,
you gain I rating.
If you finish below where youthink they should where they
(38:21):
think you should finish, youlose I rating.
Your I rating is what you isused to put you into the
appropriate field with thestrength of um was it strength
of field?
Yeah, strength of field.
You're racing similarly skilledracers as you, so it makes it
more competitive for you.
I don't want to get dumped intowith a 10k i uh uh i rating,
(38:46):
dude.
It's not gonna be any fun forme, right?
But you do, but you do, I do,right?
Jason (38:50):
Because racing faster people because if you do well in
there, you're gonna get a shitton of i rating for that, you
know, because you're notsupposed to be there, you know.
They rank you by divisions,that's what they call it.
They call you divisions.
If you're if you're the numberone driver in the in the excuse
me, in the session, based offthe the SOF, the strength of
(39:14):
field, you better win that race.
That's like Camp, bro.
Poor Cam if you let the number10 overtake you and beat you, oh
man, bro.
You know, I think I love thatsystem.
That system makes sense, youknow.
It's not just yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, yeah, so you got mestarted.
Jeff (39:34):
I wanna it it it works great, but what also I didn't
learn, didn't know is so uh Ikind of talk a lot of you know
in the past about hey, I canqualify, I feel very high, you
know.
I feel like I qualify five orabove traditionally, but when we
race, my race pace is not thesame as well, most people
(39:58):
aren't.
But what I find is that when Ieither come up and I am in
proximity to another car, Idrive overly conservative, is
probably the right word.
Jason (40:10):
You're being you're being cautious and cautious.
Jeff (40:12):
And or if somebody's coming up behind me, and I think
part of that is I just don'twant to take somebody else out,
but I also don't want to ruin myown safety rating.
Um so what I've been what I didfor the past like two weeks was
I was like, oh, I'll use thesepractices to drive to to be
comfortable a passing people ordriving in proximity to other
(40:35):
cars.
And if I take them out, theytake me out.
It's we lose a little bit, likeI mean, it's like my
microscopic levels of safety,not really enough to even
articulate to show when yourace, it will be much more,
which we'll get into here in asecond.
But what I didn't know untilthe like the 10 days had gone
by, and I don't even know howmany of these uh things I was
(40:58):
doing, that if you do not exitthat event or that you have
registered for two minutes priorto qualifying, you technically
are in the field.
And if you quit out rightbefore qualifying, because I was
thinking, hey, I'm gonna goback and find another practice
(41:19):
so I can keep working on this toget faster.
Here I am thinking of being theresponsible one, right?
I don't want to ruin safety, Idon't want to you know, ruin I
ratings.
So I'm just going practicingwith in other fields, you know,
I'm talking to people you knowin the practice and stuff like
that.
Well, like a week and a halfgoes by, and I somehow look at
my I rating, and that's when Ilearned that if you race all the
(41:44):
way up to qualifying, even ifyou don't qualify, you still
technically are in the field.
And I was coming in last place.
I mean, this is a little bitshowing, you know, um, you know,
this is a little embarrassing,but here it was a learning
thing.
And if anybody else can learnfrom this, you know, and not
have to do it, because of Meyer,I'm I'm here for you guys.
But uh, so you took a crash ofan I rating the last 10 days.
(42:08):
So you're probably mad as hell.
Like, what am I doing wrong?
Well, the good, I mean, thegood part is is when I realized
this and I started like, I waslike, oh, I gotta race now to
get out of this, you know, thisthe men dug out the mail and
say, what's going on with this?
This is kind of easy racingbecause I was you know
artificially had dropped into alower strength of field than I
(42:30):
probably deserved to be.
Oh, you were smoking then.
Oh, I was smoking, yeah.
So uh it was a bit of adumpster fire.
I learned about it.
If you're gonna exit, you haveno intentions of racing, you're
just getting into practice, youneed to get out of there two
minutes prior to qualifying, oryou're technically gonna be part
of that field and it's gonnaaffect your i rating.
Jason (42:52):
That's a very good tip, man.
Jeff (42:54):
A little bit of humble pie, but if anybody else can
learn from it and not have to dothe same thing as I'm racing uh
strength of fields that are notso good.
Jason (43:03):
And you know, we're breaking down i rating and
numbers and safety and all thisstuff, right?
And Jeff and I, when we startediRacing, I I mean, I had an
iRacing account, but I reallystarted with him.
He started racing almost thesame time, and I wanted to race
with him, and I was like, uhscrew it, I'll jump on there
with you.
I don't have anybody racingright now on ACC.
(43:25):
So then I go over there andblah, blah, blah, and then we
start the ride the i ratinggrind.
Like a year later, Jeff and Ihave a conversation, and I was
like, what's the point?
Like, what's the point ofpaying so much attention to
this?
Just get on the track, do yourbest.
(43:45):
You know what's illegal, youknow what's not illegal, right?
And and do your best.
Don't try and you can't cheatthis system.
We we've just we've tried.
You can't cheat it.
You know, it Jason, if you ifyou know.
You and I talk all the time,Jeff, and you're like, you we
were saying, yeah, if you don't,you don't really have to, you
(44:08):
don't really have to push on thequality too much, and you know,
for me or or for you, you don'treally have to push too much in
the beginning because that'show things happen.
And I'm like, sometimes it'sjust better to approach an
event.
This is out of rookies.
If you're a rookie, forgetabout i rating.
We just told you that it don'tcount, and we showed you.
Just get out of rookie, get outof there.
(44:29):
It's ASAP.
It's more than if you P last, Plast will get you safety.
I promise you.
P last will get you out of irating, not first place.
You know, Jeff and I, we speakand we talk all the time, and
I'm like, dude, why don't wejust relax and race the best you
can to the maxim of yourabilities?
(44:50):
Don't do anything crazy ontrack, like trying to follow a
line that you know you can't do,but then push as hard as you
can too to have a good spot, andyou'll automatically be moved
into a category where you'resupposed to be, which is
strength of field.
Jeff (45:07):
That's that's you know 100%.
Yeah, it just freak on in allhonesty, just get in there and
have fun.
Yeah, get in there and havefun.
Don't read the rules, you know,drive safe, right?
But don't don't really don'tget in there to get a high rate,
don't go sim racing to get ahigh high rating or safety
rating.
You're I think you're missingthe point.
Jason (45:28):
And the license, remember, Jeff, we were talking
about this.
Jeff was like, I want that Alicense.
I want it, I want it, I wantit, I want it.
I want to drive the formulacar.
And I'm like, but you're havinga blast with this F4 car, you
sure?
You know what I mean?
And then we start to know.
Yeah.
Well, not just you.
I did the same thing.
I wanted to rush all the way upthe field so that way I can
(45:50):
race different things.
And then I noticed that I don'teven do that.
You know, I'm uh Porsche Cup isa C class event.
You don't, it's irrelevant.
Okay, you got a B, you got anA, good, good for you.
That's great.
You have a license to driveother things that are not being
driven often.
Now, GTP, that's another,that's another saga, right?
(46:12):
We gotta get you up to Alicense to do that.
Jeff (46:14):
As you should, that's a death trap.
Jason (46:16):
Yeah.
So I'm I mean, I think it's no,you're good, man.
I'm just I'm just closing in onthat that we we basically did a
mini guide here to i rate irating.
Yeah, mini guide on how to findit, how to gauge it.
But then I also want you todon't worry about it too much,
you know, in a way, you know.
(46:37):
Just know know what's gonnahappen, but how do you prevent
from how do you prevent theunpreventable?
You know what I mean?
If you're not at pace, ifyou're not at that pace, then
you don't belong there.
You don't belong in thatstrength of field yet.
But when you start racing andlearning and pushing, then
you're gonna get back there andthen you're gonna excel and
(46:59):
you're gonna go over that.
You're gonna, then you're gonnaturn back like Jeff now.
He's like, Yeah, I'm with thesestrength of field now and I'm
smoking them.
You know what I mean?
That's that's kind of how itworks.
It's a balance to it.
Jeff (47:12):
Yeah, and from somebody that was paying attention to
safety and your i rating, it Iwas putting so much value into
the race of whatever I went upor down in, not my position or
how much of fun I had.
And you know, don't miss theforest for the trees.
So all right, Jason, I'm gonnamove on to safety if your rounds
complete with i rating.
Jason (47:32):
Yeah, I think i rating is um I think we're good on i
rating.
If you guys have any questions,email the show at the
shicanepodcast at gmail uh.com.
That goes without saying forany topic.
Sorry, Jeff, go ahead,continue.
Jeff (47:46):
All right, so okay, all right, we're gonna move into uh
say your safety rating.
After a session that hasimpacted a safety rating,
iRacing will do a calculation todetermine each driver's new
safety rating.
Safety ratings, uh calculationslook at three things.
How many incidents did youreceive, how many corners did
you complete, and what type ofsession it was.
(48:07):
Incident points are the 1x, 2x,and 4x values that show up the
screen when driving.
This is like the biggestdistraction ever.
Like I'm like, oh shit, did Igo off?
Did I go off track?
I like take a peek up and I'mlike flashes, and I'm like,
damn! I'm like, throw it away.
Yeah, it does something.
I wish it stays on there for solong.
I know.
I just wish it didn't tell youuntil the end of the year.
(48:28):
Like you mess up.
I digress.
You messed up.
Jason (48:30):
You messed up.
Jeff (48:31):
These are added, these are added together to determine
your total incident count for asession.
Sometimes incident points willsay 2x with an arrow and then a
4x.
This means there was a 2x in itassessed, but it was followed
very quickly by a 4x incident.
In this case, we do not want topile on incident points, so
iracing ignores the 2x andsimply assesses a 4x penalty.
(48:55):
Since it is the greatest of theincidence values as seen during
a short time span, it is notpossible that you can be given
more than a 4x for a singleincident.
So just make sure you knowthat.
So if you bump, you know, acar, go off the track, and hit
another car, you're only gettingone 4x for that incident.
All right, back to it.
The following situations willnegatively impact your safety
(49:17):
rating by occurring racingincident points, driving off the
racing surface off the track,losing control of your car, so
if you lose the back end,contact with another object, the
wall, contact with anotherdriver, another car.
The full table of incidents canbe found at the, you know, here
into the iRacing Code.
The more incident points yourack up during a race, the more
(49:38):
negative your net safety ratingfrom that race will be.
But if you drive a clean raceand avoid these racing incidents
that we spoke to earlier, themore positive your safety net
rating will be from that race.
Keep in mind, incidents areassessed to be involved driver
individually on a no-faultbasis, no matter the
circumstance.
So what that means is if youget rear-ended in the first
(50:00):
corner, you're just as guilty,unfortunately, as the guy behind
you.
And if you want to know whyiRacing did that, go back to our
the episode where we talked toNimcross, and he does a
fantastic job of covering whyiRacing does it that way.
Jason (50:14):
The Chief Steward, too.
The number four.
That's the employee numberfour, iRacing.
So he'll tell you real quick.
Jeff (50:22):
And it makes sense once you hear it.
So it it initially it's likeyeah, that's pretty stiff, but
you he he does a great job ofexplaining it.
So jump back, jump back thereand listen to that episode.
So I'm gonna keep going, Jason.
Jason (50:32):
And a lot of people, and just real quick, just a quick
plug.
A lot of people that we'veinterviewed lately since we had
that are kind of nodding to thesame thing.
Like, hey, there's a there wassomething that happened on track
I probably could have avoided.
You know what I mean?
Now I understand the one whenyou start on the starting line
and somebody hits you on theside of the door, but things
(50:54):
happen.
Jeff (50:55):
Moving on.
It's a racing racing incident.
It you know, it kind of is whatit is, right?
Okay.
So I alluded to the things thataffect it is corner count.
Corner count, each trackconfiguration in eye racing has
a determined, defined cornermultiplier.
When assessing was whenassessing your safety rating, we
look at this corner multipliercombined with the number of laps
(51:17):
that you completed to determinethe total number of corners you
completed.
Corner multipliers that areassigned based on the complexity
of the track.
So with the relative impact ofan incident on a short track
with six corners is roughlyequal to that of an incident
with an extremely long tracklike the Nuremberg Ring or North
Life with dozens and dozens ofcorners.
(51:38):
This also applies to ovals andshort tracks with lower corners
multipliers that haveintermediate or super speedway
tracks.
So really, this is just to kindof say that you know, uh this
is a way that iRacing baselinesthe number of incidents that you
have at a very complicatedtrack and a short track to make
it same same.
Does that make sense, Jason?
Jason (51:59):
100%.
Jeff (52:00):
Okay.
Last thing here session time.
When race session incidentswill have their full effect be
applied to a driver's safetyrating.
Not all sessions operate thesame way.
Sessions with pre-racedpractice qualifying warm-up and
time trials have multipliersapplied to the reducing impact
(52:22):
of the overall incident pointsreceived from those sessions.
For example, time trialsmultiply your total incident
points received in that sessionby 0.35 before applying them to
your safety rating calculations.
Then we can, if you dig intothe bottles of the iRating
Sports Code, and you can findthose.
(52:42):
But what this is basicallysaying, that I think Jason, you
alluded to earlier, is if youcrash into somebody or go off
track in practice andorqualifying, qualifying would be
more off track.
You hit somebody in practice.
It's not gonna have a hugeimpact to your safety rating,
but it is going to impact it ata microscopic level.
There will be an impact to it.
Jason (53:04):
Right.
Jeff (53:04):
And another thing in a race will impact it a whole lot
more than so.
If you hit somebody in a race,it's gonna affect your safety
rating a lot more than it willin practice.
Go ahead, Jason.
Sorry.
Jason (53:16):
And no, you're good.
You're good.
I'm interrupting, my bad.
So um another thing that isprobably in the manual, it's
probably buried somewhere inthere.
But you also got to think ofthe length of the race.
If you're trying to grindsafety and you do 15-minute
races, it's not enough.
You know, safety is calculatedby the amount of clean laps that
(53:41):
you do lap by lap.
If it's a if it's a the 24-hourevent on there on bro, we had
we got so much safety from that.
I also did a three-hour um rentat Charlotte Rovell, and I got
1.67, which is a lot of safety.
Jeff (53:58):
That's like that's a big job.
A whole number?
Jason (54:01):
A whole number, no, like almost two, like you know, one
almost two.
Jeff (54:06):
Oh one point, yeah, sorry.
Jason (54:07):
1.67.
And it's because of the the theratio, right?
The the amount driven, thelapse driven, and the incident
counters, the ratio is like wayhigh.
So it'll it'll calculate thatway too.
I rating as well.
I rating will be warded.
You'll get a lot more I ratingon endurance races than regular
(54:30):
racing.
So just so you guys know.
You don't have to grind those15-minute races like we thought
we did.
That's why I'm mentioning this.
Jeff (54:39):
So safety is important.
Obviously, it helps to do thebiggest thing is probably your
uh promotions and demotions,which you know is kind of we can
maybe hit that with anothertopic here in the future.
Uh, you know, I just wanted tokind of additionally touch on to
what affects safety uh and yourI rating, but it definitely
your safety is a big portioninto your promotion into uh
(55:01):
going up and down licenseclasses.
Jason (55:04):
Yeah, yeah, man.
And to me, it's just asimportant.
Um because again, if if youhave a high safety rating, and
now you know we have DanielNewman racing dashboards, lovely
dashboards as well, show thisdata, and they will show you the
I rating of the car that'sbehind you.
(55:25):
And if that guy is like it'sbadass, if he's like a one, you
better watch out with this guy.
He's a little reckless.
But if the guy behind you haslike a three or a 3.5, then that
gives you a little better idea.
Also, crew chief will tell youif the if the driver behind you
is reckless or not.
I didn't say it.
It was you know, Jim said that,Jimbo.
(55:47):
So I think um, I think uh Ithink we're pretty much good
with this, huh?
What do you think, Jeff?
Jeff (55:55):
Yeah, I think I've uh uh I've covered it.
If you guys got any questions,you know, either uh send an
email uh or a comment and we canuh get back with you.
But I think everybody get inthere and read the um sporting
code for iRacing.
We can link that in thedescription.
Jason (56:09):
Okay.
Um again, guys.
Um, next episode we will becovering uh question that was
sent to us.
So for though for that recentperson that did send us an
email, um, we will definitelyaddress that.
And track of the week is stillhere again, just a lot of moving
things, you know.
Um we've had Jeff on travel andEric's departure.
(56:33):
So I've been trying to catch upwith with everything, but today
was a great episode.
Um, thank you so much, Jeff,for for providing all the info
today.
And yeah, man, if you guys haveany more questions about
anything that we cover today,just send us an email at the
shikanepodcast at gmail.com orleave a comment below and we'll
(56:54):
address that right away.
Um, as well in live streams.
If I'm on live stream and youcatch me, feel free to just as
you know, ask me a question.
I'm I'll answer you right away,live and in the flesh.
So again, uh Jeff, thank you somuch.
Yes, um, I appreciateeverything.
And guys, stay tuned.
(57:15):
Uh, we'll have we have a lotmore planned for you, uh,
especially now as the holidaysapproach.
We definitely have some morethings coming.
And October is known for themonth of reveals and product
reveals in the simracing world.
So please keep it locked tighthere.
And uh, yeah, we'll be backhere next Monday.
(57:37):
Thank you so much, everyone,and have a great start of your
week.
Thank you.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.