Simagic EVO Wheelbases Worth it?

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Jason (00:34):
This episode is brought to you by Trophyai.
We discuss all things in thesim racing world.
I'm your host, jason Rivera,and I'm joined here by Mr Eric
Kelly and Jeff Smart.
How's everybody doing this week?

Erick (00:46):
Hey, doing good this week , man, the Cheetahs won again.

Jason (00:49):
The Cheetahs.

Erick (00:50):
Yeah, if you're not following my youngest, he's
playing soccer for the firsttime.
They won the second game, sothey're doing good Nursing a Sim
.
My first ever Sim racing injury, you know for people that say
that Sim racing isn't real.

Jeff (01:04):
let's pretend you got to be careful, all right I'm doing
good, jason and eric, goodseeing you guys again.
Uh highlight of the week here.
So uh ready to get into anothernice little discussion here
yeah, man, it's been anexcellent week.

Jason (01:19):
I I love hearing about the cheetahs.
Uh, we're going to need to seea leaderboard soon, eric, so you
need to get that over here andsee what the Just imagine.

Erick (01:28):
one there at the top, and it's everybody else.

Jason (01:33):
That must be a great feeling to see your daughter,
and she's winning, she's cominghome.
Just man, I hope the trendcontinues.
You know how that goes, youknow.

Erick (01:44):
Yeah, we've had to teach her about sportsmanship.
Last time she was on the fieldand they scored the third time.
The whole team hadn't scored.
She ran off yelling like wescored and they haven't scored
any points.
Chill out, don't make the kidscry.
Now it's all fun and games,they all have a good time.

(02:07):
They get snacks afterwards, soit makes up for everything.

Jason (02:10):
There you go, there you go.
That's awesome.
Well, just a coupleannouncements here.
We did our first.
Michael from the Sim Racingthen joined me on Sunday last
Sunday and I had to get up at350 in the morning because
somebody decided to make therace at a very early Eastern

(02:33):
time and I felt the pain thatEric goes through every week
with us and you know.
It just came back after me, man, so I had to get up.
We had a wonderful race, it wascool, it was a three-hour race
and we got a nice after me, man,so I had to get up.
We had a wonderful race, it wascool, it was a three-hour race
and we got a nice cool livery,had a good time and it was
actually a very smoothexperience switching drivers and

(02:55):
everything, because I've neverdone it before.
How?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
does that work?

Jason (02:58):
So what you do is you sign up for a team in iRacing
and then you invite whoeverwants to be part of the team and
then I guess the organizertakes it, puts you not by name
but by the team, so both of youare in, and then in the skin

(03:19):
application that we use what isit called Trading paint there's
a button down there that you canassign a team skin for.
Um, it kind of syncs up.
It takes like a few hours toshow up.
So we made a team called theSim Racing Coalition.
So it's the, the, the unison of, of, of two brands coming
together and and and joiningforces.

(03:40):
So, um, src was the name of theteam and it took like four
hours for that little button boxto show up.
And then we just uploaded theskins to shout out to my boy,
neil stayed up till 5, 30 in themorning, a total of 12 hours
working on a skin just for us.
Yes, and it is For us, yes.

Jeff (04:02):
Big said I'm top shot right.

Jason (04:04):
Bro yes sir.
We made a Rexy replica andturned it into a Raptor and I'll
post pictures on here so youguys can see.
But it came out really nice andshout out to Big the top shot.
We need to support him.
I keep telling him to open upthe gallery and start and make
and get this going, but he's alittle shy so maybe this episode

(04:31):
will give him that extra push.
So it was fun.
I say that it was very easy,jeff.
So you know how in iRacingright, you pull into the pits
and then you can literally getout the car to go to the garage
or the settings.
Whenever you do that, the nextperson, it'll turn green and
it'll say practice or go race orqualify.
So while we were practicing hewould drive the car for five

(04:53):
laps.
Come in, do the driver swap.
It takes 30 seconds though, butit's a virtual 30 seconds, it's
literally instant.
But the game it's not a penalty, but it's kind of like part of
the rules, like if you drive aswap in a race you're sitting
there and with a timer comingdown, because it's like
simulating the guy getting outthe car?

Jeff (05:14):
Rob Markman.

Jason (05:14):
Yeah, people getting in and out.
Sure, rob Markman.
Yeah, you know those memevideos where the guy's?

Erick (05:18):
like ass out like drag his ass out of the car.
Rob Markman, that's exactlywhat I was thinking about, man
that was me, bro, freaking fiveo'clock in the morning.

Jason (05:26):
I was like man.
I was.
You know how it'd be in themorning it's cold in the house,
it's cold in here, man, now itgoes, but very, very smooth,
very interesting.
Um, I think it was awesome.
It's a very cool experience.
I was basically his spotterwhile he was racing.
I was telling him how farbehind what the weather forecast

(05:49):
strategies we had some USBproblems on his end.
That was scary and the replayis on there.
It's about four and a halfhours and it's actually playing
in the background, which I hadjust hit play on.
So that's us racing it.
But anywho, lots of fun.
I'm hoping we can do a 24 hourand include both of you into

(06:13):
this and do a six man.
That way Jeff gets out of workand he comes home, hangs out
with the family for a little bit, and at eight o'clock at night
he said I got the car and thenhe goes out for a run.
Then Eric is waking up on theother side of the world and he
gets the car.

Erick (06:29):
That's got to be Rob.

Jason (06:31):
Markman, that would be dope.
That would be dope bro Imaginethat way everybody can do their
normal day job or whatever, andthen come in and put some time
in the car.
Rob Markman car.

Erick (06:43):
I'll tell you this If I know y'all on track, I'm not
sleeping a wink.
I already know I'm going to belike a kid at Christmas.
I'm going to be nervous, I'mgoing to be excited.
All that stuff.
Wait on my turn.

Jason (06:58):
It was relatively a smooth experience.
It's just I was nervous at thelast stint when Mike was like
take the car, I'm running out ofgas and the tires only had like
15, 12 laps in them, robMarkman, literally or
figuratively running out of gas.
Rob Markman.
Yeah, like the virtual car, RobMarkman.

Jeff (07:17):
Oh, the virtual car, I didn't know Mike was running out
of gas.

Jason (07:19):
Rob Markman no, no no, the virtual car was one of the
few.
He was a car.
Yeah, that's a long time.
I was watching Mike was lockedin.

Erick (07:26):
Yeah, yeah, mike.

Jason (07:28):
Mikey was focused, he was in the game, he was helping me
and it was great.
And then he's like I'm not.
I wouldn't take tires.
I only had 12 laps.
So that was the only thing Iwould say is like you're not
used to just picking it up anddriving it right away while it's
worn.
You're used to the tire beingbrand new and you ease it in.

(07:50):
That was the only time.
But, honestly, I took the car,I was nervous, I took it easy
for the first half lap and thenI was like the car feels fine.
You hear me say it the carfeels great.
Actually, it feels perfect.
So, yeah, that was great.
We had a little briefing thingbetween us.
We looked at places where wecould pass because we had BMWs

(08:13):
on track, we had MX-5s on track.
So the thing is we need to bumpthe participation numbers up a
little bit with the GRL.
So, guys, stay tuned for thenext special event.
These don't happen often andwhen they do, um, we're looking
for part uh, max participation,if you can make it.
Sorry, cause everybody,weekends are kind of, you know,

(08:35):
but at five o'clock in themorning I was okay with that.
It's just the?
Um, it was kind of painful, butthey ain't nothing going on
over here.

Erick (08:41):
I know.

Jason (08:42):
Jeff, jeff, you, jeff is he'll wake up at three o'clock
in the morning just to preparehis boat and do his thing too.

Erick (08:50):
So nothing new, that's cool man Get that quiet time in.

Jason (08:55):
Yeah, that too, or F1.
Is that another reason you wakeup, super yeah?

Jeff (08:59):
that's another reason to get up 100%.

Erick (09:00):
Yep A thousand percent yes.

Jason (09:03):
And a bit of exciting news for the Chicane podcast we
are reaching.
This is the next episode willbe our year anniversary and just
before our year anniversary wehave our first sponsor for the
show.
Trophy AI is sponsoring theChicane podcast as of this
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(09:28):
And it's a tool that Eric Kellyfirst mentioned here on the
show and used it, reviewed it,showed it to us, we checked it
out.
So it kind of made sense whenthey reached out to us and I
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Um, it's probably gonna be allover the screen somewhere um, as

(09:52):
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It just gives us a little, alittle kickback on the on the
membership side of things.
But give it a try.
I would say um, and we startedwhat?

Speaker 4 (10:02):
what you think?

Jeff (10:03):
you know Eric gave the you know gave his unbiased review
well before you know theconnection being made.
So go back to that episode onyou know, on Sanita, or you know
straight no chaser review, yeahthat is correct and that is the
AI racing One of them.

Jason (10:23):
It was.
It was literally like a month,two months ago maybe.
I want to say so that'sexciting news, that's good
support for the show and it ithelps um, it helps keep the
podcast alive and everything,and we're all excited to go over
to the expo.
Uh, we're in may.
I don't know about you guys orwhat part of the world you're in

(10:44):
, but May is technically summer.
Summer has begun in Hawaii.
Jeff could tell you it's beentoast.

Jeff (10:49):
The whales are gone, the surf is down, that's it.

Jason (10:52):
North Shore is wide open.
You can dive there, you cansurf there, you do whatever.

Jeff (10:57):
You won't drown.

Jason (10:59):
I hope not.
Please be safe out thereregardless.
Anywho, those are some of theannouncements for this week.
Really excited.
A lot of exciting thingshappening too, um, especially
with a particular brand calledsim magic.
But before we get into that, weactually had some rather

(11:20):
unfortunate news.
Right, I know I'm all over theplace, but EA, wrc, which is
dear to my heart, even thoughthey're EA and you already know
how I feel about EA and we alsohad their subjective anti-cheat
being kernel level permissionson your computers.
But I digress, you know, I kindof accepted, just accepted it

(11:45):
and kept playing it.
It seems that there's going tobe a pause in development or a
stop.
I'm going to read this articlefor you.
In a statement to players, thepublisher said every great
journey eventually finds itsfinish line, and today we
announced that we've reached theend of the road working on WRC

(12:06):
and confirmed it's recentlyreleased Hard Changes DLC will
be its last.
So hard chargers excuse me, fornow we are pausing development
plans on future rally titles.
So not only is the game over,but it doesn't look like they
are going to work on this orrally games in the future.

(12:29):
They also saying to rest to,you know, to EAWC will continue
to be available for existing andnew players.
I would hope so.
Right, you guys put moneytowards and I would hope that
you'll be able to race the gameand use it, you know whatever.
But just to give you somehistory with this WRC was a

(12:52):
Codemasters game, I believe.
If I'm not mistaken, it wasCodemasters, or no, excuse me.
Dirt 2 and Dirt series was aCodemaster, and then Codemaster
partnered up with EA Games tocreate this new WRC game that
they call EA WRC.
So I'm hoping it's only on theEA side and Codemasters can

(13:16):
either scoop it up or dosomething with it, because it's
a great rally game and we'llkeep you updated.
This is what we know as oftoday.
So if you guys know any updatednews, you can leave those in
the comments below.
No worries, we'll make thosechanges accordingly.
And that's just a little bit ofthe news tidbit from WRC.

(13:39):
And then there's another sim.
There's a new sim racing gameout, which I'll hand this over
to Eric.
He's excited to to go over thatone.

Erick (13:50):
Yeah, you know sim racing , the more competition we have,
the more options, the better forus.
That's just always great.
This was interesting becauseit's PC, Xbox Series X and PS5.
It's PC, xbox Series X and PS5.
It's called Project MotorRacing.
It's published by Giants Studio, developed by Straightforward
Studios.
Seems like it's going to bepretty interesting.

(14:13):
They kind of seem to becovering the gamut as far as
features and functionality.
They have four class races thatare possible.
There's scanning tracks.
Going to have 70 cars justseems like a, because it's gonna
be an interesting game, um,especially with it being on pc
and a console, especially withthe multi-class stuff.

(14:35):
I don't know of another game onconsole that'll let you do that
, so that'll be be interesting.
It's not out yet.
I think supposed to come out umlater this year.
So keep an eye on that, ofcourse you.
You got Evo in the back.

Jason (14:49):
Oh, that's the sleeping giant is what I'm calling AC Evo
.
It's been really quiet withthem, but when you jump in every
time I've jumped in it's justgood, it's smooth, the graphics
look good, the driving's good,good.
So that's the sleeping monsterthat's waiting to, just waiting
to happen very soon.

Erick (15:10):
Yeah, I think it's an open wheel right.
Oh yeah, open wheel for realsorry, back to you, have the
open wheel.

Jason (15:17):
No, you're, you're right though, bring the damn, bring it
over now.
This, this new, this new simracing game that Eric's talking
about.
The only concern I have withwhat do you call this
cross-platform is I hope theyfind a way to separate the ones
that are using a controller,because they could be dangerous

(15:40):
on track.

Erick (15:41):
Yes, Even on console they're dangerous yeah.

Jason (15:47):
I don't know, gt.
That's a good question for you,eric.
Does gt7?

Erick (15:52):
no, okay, he's shaking his head you can tell who's
using the controller oh no, youcan tell when the tire goes like
this they're kind of he'sflicking the stick.
Yeah, like flicking the stick,or you know they got the gyro
thing, but the window is sosmall that you're having to kind
of always make smalladjustments so you can tell
who's on a stick.

Jason (16:14):
But if you did that on iRacing and you flicked the
stick, the car is just going togo.
Oh dead, dead.

Erick (16:22):
Yeah, I was looking and I wasn't sure about cross-play
because I don't know there's alot Like racing against a guy in
a full rig.
I guess you can kind of do thaton GT7, but I don't know That'd
be intimidating racing againstPC guys on a console.

Jason (16:41):
Well, at least in GT7, people are using pedals, most of
them.
Serious people are in pedalsand steering wheel.

Erick (16:49):
Some of the fastest guys are on controller, though, which
?

Jeff (16:54):
is mind-blowing Wild.

Erick (16:57):
So the interesting thing is the reason why I'm excited
about that game.
The new one is, they mentionedit's on console so we have to
cater to controller, but it isdesigned for wheel and pedals.

Jason (17:09):
Okay, where.

Erick (17:10):
GT7 is designed for controller for the most part.

Jason (17:16):
I would say it's equal right, because they had a
partnership with Fanatec andthey had their own GT wheel.
I think they're equally biasedwith it.
That didn't make sense, but youknow what I mean.
Their focus is on both.
Like hey, if you want to use asteering wheel, it's optimized.

(17:37):
Because I think support was dayone for that Fanatec setup on
GT7.
When it came out, they even hadtheir own wheelbase for the
design for that game, which ishuge, right, rob?

Erick (17:50):
Markman Jr.
Actually, they had two.

Jason (17:52):
Rob Markman Jr.
Oh, they had two right, robMarkman.

Erick (17:54):
Jr.
Yeah, that Diddy Extreme bundlethey came out with the 15
Newton meter one they got a newGT wheel that goes with that.

Jason (18:04):
Rob Markman Jr.
Oh snap, gt wheel that goeswith that.
Rob Markman oh snap.
Okay, that's crazy.
Well, at least they have.
Yeah, I mean, it's an option.
It's an option which is kind ofcool and the VR experience is
great.
But yeah, I guess that's alittle bit of news for this week
, and then we have some morenews, which is the the bigger

(18:27):
news, and I'll hand this overback to eric to cover one of his
favorite, um, or should I sayhis favorite, uh, one of his
favorite brands on in thecommunity.
He got a smile on his face andeverything.

Erick (18:42):
Yeah.
So I don't know if you've heard, but SimMagic has come out with
a couple of new products.
They've been peppering us upuntil this big release here,
right.

Jason (18:53):
Teasing.

Erick (18:54):
Yeah, teasing.
And so they finally droppedtheir new line of wheelbases.
They're the Alpha Evo line,name it aside, which I think
might be a little confusinggoing forward, I'm gonna share
my screen or kind of like abreakout of the new products,
and then we'll kind of go overhow they compare to the current

(19:15):
lineup here.
So here we go, and so, as youcan see, here they've got three
wheels.
Get this out the way I'll shoplater.

Jason (19:34):
Eric, what are you doing, bro?
You got this stuff in your cart, bro.
What's up?

Erick (19:39):
I got a system.
It keeps popping up it's likehey man buy me.
I gotta make sure theircheckout process works.

Jason (19:46):
I don't think you can get rid of that, bro, anytime you
scroll down.

Jeff (19:51):
Yes.
That just makes me frustratedand not want to buy from them
Damn.
I have some magic, so it's hardto complain.

Erick (19:59):
Yeah, I hate that.
I guess they got to get theirmoney in some kind of way.
But yeah, so these are thethree wheelbases.
They obviously have the Sport,they have the Evo and they have
the Evo Pro and the biggestdifferences are really going to
be in the power output and theEvo Sport and Evo they're very

(20:24):
similar even in the weights.
If you look at that, they weighthe exact same thing as far as
power strength 9 newton meterson the Sport and 12 newton
meters on the Evo.
But as far as technology, theyare all supporting this new
21-bit encoder.
The previous Alpha line was an18-bit encoder, so you're
getting some more fidelity there.
They mentioned a new processor.

(20:47):
They also mentioned support fora cool new QR that'll give you
wireless essentially wirelessmag link so you won't have to
run the cable in the future.
But that's still I think theysaid it's still kind of in
testing.
Then you have the big boy righthere which weighs a little bit

(21:07):
more and also has 18 nanometersof force.
But everything else is prettymuch the same Same 21-bit
encoder, same processor, sameresponse rate and the other.
We'll go up to the top of thesite here kind of go over some
of the other features they'vegot.

(21:29):
They put a lot of time on thiswebsite, so they are very proud
of the zero clogging tech whichI wanted to get y'all's opinion
on.
I never noticed because I don'thave anything to compare it to,
but apparently a test ofclogging is when the base is
powered off and you turn thespindle, how notchy it feels

(21:51):
when there's no power to it,right, apparently, jason, you
probably can attest to this the.

Jason (21:56):
Simucube bass is perfectly smooth the Simucube
does I mean?
I've never felt cogging on thatthing, but when I had a Fanatec
DD2, I did, and what it is,it's like a notch.
It feels like a notch.
You turn the wheel and it stopshere, and then you turn it
again and it stops there.

(22:17):
Rob Markman, it's the magnets.
Yeah, rob Markman.
Yeah, it's almost like a ballbearing, like a ball bearing
where it's going around and itstops at each one, kind of like
a gear, but you can't hear it.
It didn't really.
Even with the Phantatech Ididn't have a problem with
cogging.
That's so meticulous, like very, very meticulous with that.

Erick (22:44):
So I will put this in the hype category.
Then, as far as the features, Ilike to do this on my tech
reviews, rob Markman.

Jason (22:50):
Well, I would expect them to have a zero-cocking tech in
2025.
That's 100%.
The Fanatec DD2 is years old,pre-covid old, you know what I
mean, and I think, if I'm notmistaken, but Fanatec was the
first direct drive base to everexist, at least commercially,

(23:14):
for us, at least in the UnitedStates.
I mean just correct me if I'mwrong.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah.

Jason (23:26):
So that one I'll put that in the hype category, right
okay, something that if, unlesssomebody told you, essentially,
you would never notice you yeah,why are you spinning the wheel
with the thing, with the, withthe base off?
What are you doing?

Erick (23:37):
it's not a toy yeah of course, I had to watch a couple
videos and that was they're like.
You know, I don't feel thecaulking is better than the
alpha and it's like I wouldnever buy a wheelbase based on
how it worked, with no power,that's.

Jeff (23:52):
Right, those are true words Now.
So the.

Jason (23:57):
You remember when the DD came out, the CSL DD, yep, so
the CSL DD was the first Fanatecbase to not have the cogging
and you did notice a smootheraction on it when it was on and
everything.

Jeff (24:11):
Oh, okay, but you're comparing it from a Fanatec that
had that heavy cog where youcan.

Jason (24:21):
That came out like seven years ago.

Erick (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jason (24:23):
Ancient, ancient, ancient history.
So moving on.

Erick (24:27):
All right, yeah, so a couple of the changes they made.
Obviously you can see theyincorporated a little LED ring
around the front of the base andalso a while back they
mentioned their plus up kind ofmagnetic swappable ecosystem,

(24:48):
and this is the first base tonatively support that.
I think they'll have a pictureof it here somewhere.

Jeff (24:54):
Eric, I wish that I could turn my green light off.

Erick (24:59):
Oh, so Phantasex I mean not Phantasex SimMagic
apparently has heard your criesand was like you want to turn
off that little small LED.
Yeah, we'll give you an entirering of LED, I know right, but
you can control them, right, youcan?

Jason (25:14):
There's also turn them off.

Jeff (25:16):
Electrical tape.
Electrical tape.
Yeah, we got options out here,and it's still bright as shit,
it's blue.
Oh my god.
Like I wish I could get an LEDon my wheel that bright, oh yeah
, so they give you a whole, evenwhen it's off.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
So, we're just Spin the wheel and turn it into
something.
Since we mentioned, that I'msorry.

Jason (25:37):
Go ahead, eric, my bad.

Erick (25:39):
Oh no, I was just saying, even when it's off, you turn
the wheel and it's lighting upstill.

Jason (25:43):
We don't need a freaking LED inside.
We don't need it there.

Jeff (25:48):
I don't ever remember getting a Porsche and seeing
that around the wheel face.

Erick (25:52):
You didn't know that RGBs make you go faster, Jeff.

Jason (25:55):
Bro two tenths of a lap.
So the active pedal has RGBs Isit controllable?

Jeff (26:02):
Yes, there you go you turn them off.

Erick (26:06):
Yeah, these are controllable as well.
What a novel idea.

Jason (26:08):
But it's great to have right, because when you're you
know the pedal's like down inthere.
If you want to troubleshoot itwith an error code, then you
turn the brightness up and youcan see the status of the pedal.
You know that way, yeah, butthen, when you don't need that,
when everything is okay I'venever had a single issue with

(26:28):
them you turn it all the waydown and you forget about them.
It's pure darkness down there.

Erick (26:36):
Now I will say I did see something interesting.
Somebody was showing how, ifyou sync it up with your flags,
the kind of effect you end uphaving is, once your wheel is on
the base, you don't really seethe ring, but just the color
comes out behind your wheel, andso you can have a wheel, I
guess, possibly where you don'thave LEDs on or something like

(26:58):
that, and you can see flagcolors coming from those.

Jason (27:02):
It depends on the wheel, because if you got an Asher
wheel like mine, it'll coverthat entire ring wheel, because
if you got an asher wheel likemine, it'll cover that entire
ring.
And then your hands are backhere, but there's a thing called
danny newman racing and he'llshine up the entire room.

Jeff (27:18):
Yeah, it's like a it's another like jason do you do you
guys turn your bases off atnight when you're done, right?
Yes, you do.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean I try to remember,but-.

Jason (27:27):
Sometimes I forget yeah.

Jeff (27:28):
You know, yeah, I've left mine on, especially when I'm
trucking.

Jason (27:31):
You know I've not been known to.
Yeah, you already know whatthat means.

Erick (27:42):
That's code word, but I try to you know because that's
fair, I've gotten in the habitof making sure I turn it off
Since I rewired my rig and thepower switch is a little bit
more accessible now.

Jeff (27:54):
It just sucks.
That's the only thing that Ihave.
Now that's on its own switch.
I can turn everything off witha press of my button on the
stream deck.
Now I got to press the button.
I have it mounted, but it'sjust like the nice way to no,
yeah, you're trying to make itone button press.

Jason (28:17):
That way it feels like like a car, you know, like yeah,
all right yeah it just is yeah,I, I feel.

Jeff (28:23):
Anyways, that's neither here nor there.

Jason (28:24):
Sorry, eric, I digress go ahead yeah, man, but it's good
to have a discussion like thatjust to see the different
opinions.

Erick (28:31):
So that was actually one of the.
Once we go down a littlefurther, that's actually one of
the changes.
So apparently the new wheelbasehas a power switch on the back
of it, so you don't have to,you're not forced to, but it's
on the back, it's on the back ofit.
I'm going to lose all my frontteeth just by reaching out.
Eric, why didn't?

Jeff (28:50):
you design it with it on the front.
This is not a shot to sendmagic.

Jason (28:59):
We love you.

Jeff (29:00):
We love you, but we'll just switch somewhere easy.

Erick (29:03):
We'll just let you know next time you all design a
wheelbase.
You got your guys right here.

Jason (29:07):
Okay, there you go.

Erick (29:08):
You give me everything you need to know, because
there's some other questionabledecisions that have been made
before you even get to theperformance.
And it continues it continues.
One of those decisions is Idon't know if you can see how
they have this guy mounted rightLike in this picture right here
.

Jason (29:23):
Yes, I do not like that at all deal breaker no front
mount capabilities.
Huh, the thing is the flex thatcan flex really hard if you
pull it down.

Erick (29:34):
So you you have front mount capabilities but they sell
a separate bracket that goeshere but it has the mounting
points on up on the side of it.

Jeff (29:45):
It's a weird looking bracket, but yeah, but I want to
buy, like I have, an apex,whatever it is.

Jason (29:50):
That's not compatible with that thing yeah, let me
screw inside to the damnstandard thing, that everybody's
freaking.
What is it?
A die cast, what is it iron?

Jeff (30:01):
yeah yeah, that shit is solid bro, let me that's a deal
breaker for me.

Erick (30:06):
Yeah, man, so that's another design decision.
Yeah, and they're kind ofcatering to like well, we got
the LED, we got the magnetic DDUthat we want you to be able to
attach to the front so we can'tlet you front mount normally.
You need to be able to accessthis stuff.

Jeff (30:26):
But it costs like nothing to add that.
Yeah, it was on the old one Ihave one on mine and I have a
front mount on mine on.
Uh, what do I have?
What do we have, eric, I don'teven remember the app the alpha,
alpha, alpha, yeah alpha.

Jason (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, this is the new one, or is it?
Yes, it's, I know it is what Imentioned.

Erick (30:48):
Yeah, that's what I mentioned before the, the naming
.
So if you have a, just so, isit worth it?
Which is the question eric.

Jason (30:55):
Is it, is it worth?
Is it worth it?
I want to hear from you both,so you have so in my opinion.

Erick (31:00):
Um, I want to ask you about the encoder, because to me
, that's really the only, thethe most noticeable improvement,
possibly, okay, the differencebetween an 18-bit encoder and a
21-bit encoder.
In my research 21-bit encodersI can't remember if they said
the semi-cubes they have like a21-bit or higher-bit encoder,

(31:20):
which just gives yousignificantly more information
to the wheel that it can processper revolution.
So everybody was kind of ravingabout the force, feedback,
detail, how you felt so muchmore detail, felt more the road.

Jason (31:37):
To new product, though, is what I'll say yeah, yeah,
it's new technology.

Erick (31:41):
Honeymoon phase.

Jason (31:43):
I don't know.

Erick (31:43):
I don't know if that's expected, and so for me, know if
that's expected, and and so forme.
That kind of perks my ears upbecause I go between two
platforms where there's asignificant difference in the
same wheelbase, like when I gofrom gt7 to iRacing.
Like I can feel the road iniRacing and gt7, if I'm on a

(32:06):
straight it's pretty numb, nomatter what you do, the sim is
just not giving you thatinformation.
It's not a capability issue,but I think the overall effect
is the same, where in iRacing Ifeel everything in the car, even
though I'm still using the samewheelbase.
The forces aren't higher, it'sjust more information.

(32:29):
And so, in my mind, going from18 bit to 21 bit, if I have a
sim that supports that, then Iwill get that much more
information, that much moredetail but how much more right
compared to 18.

Jeff (32:47):
Eric, how much is the 18 Newton meter?
I think it was at 18?
You got prices somewhere,because that's going to dictate
a lot of this, right.
I mean, everybody's choicescome down to money eventually.

Jason (32:57):
But wait before we do that, jeff.

Jeff (32:59):
what do you?
I guess you want to look at theprice before you say your
Because honestly, I'm Like forme, so I got prices.
I was All right, bring theprices up, and then I'll go on
my rant On the rant.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I guess I'll go one-on-one.

Erick (33:16):
So the I guess the Evo Sport, which is their new
nine-newton-meter wheelbase, is400 volts.

Jason (33:24):
He said nine-millimeter.

Erick (33:25):
Bro, the old who we out to get, the old who we have to
get hey man, hey it might.
Might be, uh, you know, mightbe some magic, depending on the
way they act.
No, no questionable we'rekidding.
We're kidding but uh, but umbut.
So the old Mini, which was 10newton meters, is currently on

(33:47):
sale for $400.
Originally it was $540.

Jeff (33:51):
How does it go on?
Sale when it just comes out.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
No, no, no, the old one, oh the.

Jeff (33:57):
Alpha All right, you're not talking about, you're
talking about the Alpha Evo orthe the Mini's on sale.
Oh, the Mini I'm sorry, I'msorry.

Erick (34:05):
Yeah, the Mini.
So comparing the price to the,you know they got the 3 in their
lineup.
Yeah, they're the same priceFor the Alpha, basically the
mid-range one, the old Alpha andthe new Alpha Evo, which I say
the naming convention is kind ofconfusing.
The old Alpha right now is $650.

(34:25):
It used to be $770, but it's onsale for $650.
The new Alpha Evo mid-tier is$550.

Jeff (34:34):
So, $550.
So $200 or $100 cheaper.

Erick (34:40):
Yep and the top of the line.
The old top of the line used tobe $1,000.
It's on sale for $900.
The new top of the line, alpha,to be a thousand.
It's on sale for 900.
The new top of the line, alphaevo pro, is 700, and so at a
certain point, so 700?

Jason (34:57):
how much is the mount to front mount it?

Erick (35:00):
uh, that's a good question.

Jeff (35:01):
Let's see if they have that on here accessories maybe
yeah, if you got a picture, itwould be great too, because
that's like yeah, do we havelike a graphic?
Let me see if I oh there, it isright there.
Yeah, 50 bucks.
I don't see how it still mountsit, though.
Right, there was no drill ortaps no, it goes on the side.

Erick (35:20):
You, you, yeah, you mount it to the side and then it kind
of wraps around the front of it.
What are those?

Jeff (35:26):
mounts on the front though .

Jason (35:30):
They don't even have a picture of what it.

Jeff (35:32):
Of it mounted.
See what do those four screwsgo into?
Yeah, it's.

Erick (35:38):
On the front.
So these are actual.
So these are actual bolts.

Jeff (35:42):
No, no, no, the ones that are facing the driver.

Jason (35:46):
Those four, eric you see them?

Jeff (35:47):
Oh, the holes there yeah.
That's where you front mount it.

Jason (35:51):
Front mount it.

Jeff (35:54):
I didn't see any front mounts on the actual direct
drive unit.

Jason (35:58):
No, that's what this is, though, you hook this up to the
side of the motor and now youhave a mounting point.
Oh, okay, yeah, because it goesin front, which would block
part of the LED.
It kind of make the LEDirrelevant at that point.

Jeff (36:13):
Oh, then sign me up.
I'm all for that one.

Erick (36:15):
Well, so the way it's shaped, it actually the LED
still-.

Jason (36:18):
It comes through, it goes through.

Erick (36:20):
Yeah, because it's round.
But why is it so?

Jason (36:24):
important to have a freaking LED come through.
Nobody wants this LED, please.
Comments.
Shout out.

Jeff (36:30):
Yeah, let us know.

Jason (36:31):
Do you want LEDs on your freaking?

Jeff (36:32):
wheelbase, Because sometimes LEDs are cool, but on
this one give me the option toturn it off.

Erick (36:39):
Yeah, I think they'll let you do that because you have
full control over it Of the LED.

Jeff (36:44):
Yeah, but I would just like the option.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Can I make the LED black?

Erick (36:53):
Off the led?
Yeah, but I would just likeoption, can I make it also so
off?
Yeah, off off, or just I'll putblack or dim it down or
something like that.

Jeff (36:56):
So you're gonna be able to like mount a face plate, if you
will, onto that.
Yeah, is that the diameter of?
You?
Know, like jason, you and Ihave the same mounting plate.
You know that front platethat's got a starter switch.
It should, because it'suniversal.

Jason (37:12):
The mounting point comes at an angle like an X, like that
, so that way you can usemultiple motors.
It's not just for because wehave the same mount and
semi-cube and it's a standardright or whatever it is.
Yeah, okay, yeah, hopefully, oryou could have just put it's a
standard right or whatever.
It is Okay, yeah, hopefully.
Or you could have just putDon't crucify us if it isn't, we

(37:32):
don't know about this thing, oryou could have just put taps
into the freaking motor mount,so Magic might have a whole
different measuring.
I don't know.
I don't know.

Erick (37:42):
Yeah, we'll see.

Jason (37:44):
There'll be some pain for somebody to Imperial and
Honestly, I'm pretty sure theygot it figured out, because your
bases are front-mounted rightnow, right, so yeah.

Erick (37:55):
Yeah, but yeah.

Jason (37:58):
I mean you don't, it's a preference thing, Eric Right.

Jeff (38:01):
And that you took the words out of my mouth.
Right, that's something thatyou and I like.

Jason (38:05):
Yeah, that's not necessarily the way, or?

Jeff (38:08):
the right way.
A lot of people with biggerthan 32-inch screens with their
own triples put the DDU in frontof the screens right, so they
don't care.

Jason (38:18):
Exactly.

Erick (38:20):
I plan on front mounting and kind of tucking it behind my
screen.
Okay, that's why, for me, thisbass is kind of eh, we're
talking about basses behind myscreen.
Okay, that's why for me, thisbass is kind of eh.

Jason (38:32):
We're talking about basses and we like the front
mount.
Yeah, but I might be switchingallegiance to the regular mount
because I want to use theSimCore one that grabs the
wheelbase by the side, and thenthat SimCore one allows you to
take the motor and just go upand down and have like a cant to

(38:53):
it.
Right, Like built in.
Because when we go to this expoand we try out motion
simulators, it's going to getreally serious.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
You took the words out of my mouth.

Jason (39:10):
So I'm already doing the research about mounts and what
do I need to do?
And I have a measuring tape andI'm looking at this.
It's going to get very, very.
It's going to be colorful, thatsim racing expo.
It's going to be colorful.

Jeff (39:25):
There's a couple of companies that I hope don't show
, just so I don't get tempted.

Jason (39:30):
Oh, they keep adding people, I know I keep seeing
that.
Since we did the episode,they've added like maybe six
partners and guest speakers andstuff like that.

Jeff (39:40):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, it's getting out of control.

Jason (39:42):
It's going to be crazy.
It's kind of cool it's kind ofcool.

Erick (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, yep, but uh, but the last part, that, um, one
of the changes sorry,definitely is the io on here.
So this is the back of thewheel bases.
They still have their standard,you know, power plug.
They have a type c port in theback.
They have some usb a's in theback, usb b, which you don't see
a lot of very secure though USBD's yeah so is that like a

(40:13):
power?

Jason (40:13):
hub.

Erick (40:14):
Almost it is a hub that's pretty rad, still kind of up in
the air, so we don't know ifthese are going to be future
accessories or what.
But the wheelbase does havepass through USB.
So to my understanding, but thewheel base does have
pass-through USB, so to myunderstanding, you can have
something plugged into the wheelbase for your wheel and it's

(40:36):
plugged into the base.
The base is like a hub almost.

Jason (40:44):
Well, it makes sense right, Because the wheel has its
own power supply.
So that means that the power isnot coming from the computer.

Jeff (40:52):
That's a good point.

Jason (40:53):
So you can theoretically plug a high powered wheel into
that steering wheel, into thebase.
The only question I would haveis do the USBs stay hot when you
turn off the motor?
Because if they do, that's adeal breaker.
If they don't, that's awesome,because you can plug in a

(41:16):
steering wheel like Jeff's SoulPeck, and it has a screen on it,
big old screen and lights.
And instead of having to createanother, does your wheel have a
power switch?
Uh, jeff, I know.
Uh, I put one on it, okay, yeah, so that's what I mean.

Jeff (41:33):
Imagine plugging that behind the wheel base I don't
need it, but I have it whenyou're done racing.
Oh yes, I, I gave you that, Ithink yeah, I got a couple of
certain things that I have yeahwhich you can.

Jason (41:45):
You can solve, you know, with a $5 adapter.
But we're talking about justthe little conveniences right To
make it seem like it's worththe price.
And I just want to know if youcould turn that wheel off, if it
will cut the power to the wheel, because if it would, that
would be a winner.
That would be awesome, becausethen you can have a DDU.
You can have your DDU and yoursteering wheel on one single,

(42:10):
basically on a separate line ofpower, which is these things
have a big power supply.
I'm pretty sure they can handlethat power output.

Erick (42:21):
Definitely.
Oh yeah yeah, the powersupplies are huge and I would.
That's a good question, becauseon ours it's a hard power
cutoff, right, the power switchis in line with the power cable
before you get to the base, soyou flip that switch on the
Alpha.
It's killing power to the base.

(42:42):
They have a yeah, theymentioned like an emergency stop
or something.

Jason (42:49):
Yeah.

Erick (42:49):
That it comes with.
I don't know if that's built inor in line with the power or
what, but I think that if youare flipping that on and off,
then you're killing power to thebase 100%.

Jeff (43:00):
So I can speak I don't think anybody recommends doing
that though.

Jason (43:03):
I can speak for Sim-.

Jeff (43:05):
Unless you have to.

Jason (43:06):
I can speak for Simicube and Fanatec.
Those were the two bases thathad that accessory.
It's really nice because youcan mount it in a different part
of the rig and that's yourpower button so you can move it
around.
And sometimes back in the earlydays of sim racing, you know

(43:28):
these sims weren't reallyoptimized for direct drives
having that much power.
So if the wheel starts actingfunny and going crazy and
breaking all your screens andsmacking your face with the
wheels shaking and you can'tstop it, you can't If the switch
is behind the motor, I'm goingto get smacked dead in the face

(43:49):
with that motor.
It's going to hit me right inthe forehead.
So the emergency stop you'resupposed to be able to touch it
and it cuts the feedback, thoughnot the power, I believe.
Oh, okay, oh, I didn't knowthat.
I believe Semi-Q cuts thefeedback but the bass stays on

(44:12):
and whenever you turn the dialto reset the button, the bass
resets the force feedback on thefly, so you don't have to go
and turn it back.
On the Fanatec.
I believe if you hit that powerit's acting like a power switch
.
But if you press it back init'll bring power back.

(44:33):
It's kind of like, but that'sancient, right, the Fanatec one
I'm talking about, like thenewer style ones.
So you know what I do, guys.
If you guys want to know a niceoptimal place to put that thing
, nice optimal place to put thatthing, so in your rig you're
sitting down and I use my rightknee right, my right right leg

(45:00):
is my gas right, like all of us.
So I have it on just right nextto my knee.
So if I, if I want to smack itwith my knee, I can just swing
my knee open and hit it insteadof trying to find it and press
the button.
So if I have something crazyhappen, I can just go like that
and kind of kick it with my kneeand hit it, and yeah.
So just an idea, you can dowhat you want.

Erick (45:21):
I like that as a recent sufferer of a sim racing injury.

Jason (45:25):
Where we haven't heard about this injury.
What happened, bro?
Let's finish up this researchwe're doing on sim magic.
Yeah, so we'll hear about thatinjury.

Erick (45:36):
I found one other.
This is the last.
Last you know new thing.
Uh, they added a new filteralgorithm and you actually have
a setting in the SimPro softwareto adjust this filter.
Some people have kind of saidit's similar to the.
What's the new?

(45:56):
True Force?
I can't think of the new.
Yeah, like True Force, fullForce, like that type of
technology where it gives youlike enhanced force feedback.
Like that type of technologywhere it gives you like enhanced
, uh, force feedback.
Yeah, um, they say it feels it,it feels significantly better
with it on, just like the forcefeedback.
Yeah, with it on, um, they sayyou can feel like all the

(46:20):
pebbles in the road, like it.
It kind of elevates the qualityof the force feedback.
Um, they are kind ofcomplaining about the actual
strength which obviously thesewheels at the different levels
are weaker than the previousgeneration of Alfa wheels.
Right, there are some peoplethat, specifically with the Pro,

(46:41):
the Sport, which is theentry-level wheel, it having
nine newton meters, some peopleare saying I don't know if
that's, I don't know if they'reeven saying nine holding,
they're thinking they're sayingnine peak, which means that
you're getting even less thanthat, which means you hit, nine,
you clip basically, yeah,there's still some questions

(47:06):
around that, but as these wheelsbasically hit more people,
we'll get more feedback on them.
But yeah, that's the new lineupfrom SimMagic.
I'm holding what I got.

Jeff (47:20):
Honestly you know 100%.

Jason (47:23):
Yeah, I've heard this about Invicta wheels.
They're saying Invicta is agreat wheel and it's a great
base and everything.
And just the other day we weretalking about that and I was
like, yeah, I guess, but howmuch better is it really right?
And then this other gentlemanjoined the stream and we were

(47:46):
talking and he's like you shoulduse the Marvin app.
Remember, I mentioned that lastepisode and I did that on a
live stream with him and it justcompletely killed my wheel.
I couldn't feel anything.
I was like what the hell.
So I say this If you have a 15plus Newton like you guys, or

(48:09):
even 12 Newton, you're good.
You don't really have to runout and get this stuff honestly.
That's why we got the expo.
You go to the expo, you trythese things out, you put your
hands on it, then you can be thejudge of it.
Right, like motion, like motion, like motion.

Erick (48:33):
So we were all meant to move around.
I like where you're going withthat Motion is healthy.

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Tell me about this injury,though, before we move on.

Erick (49:11):
Oh yeah, so the injury isn't new.
My realization that it'sbecause of my rig is new.
Basically, whenever I lift myarm like above, kind of like
shoulder height, I have justlike a pain in my shoulder and I
realized, the way that I wasdriving, like whenever I would

(49:34):
turn to the right, that that'swhen it would start hurting.
Oh, and so now I'm looking atlike my seating position, my
wheel position.
That's why I was saying I'mthinking about going to the
front mount, I see, and what youwere saying about-.

Jason (49:48):
To give you that option angle to wheel up.

Erick (49:52):
Yeah, so yeah, if you aren't set up properly, you can
hurt yourself.
That's a real thing.

Jeff (50:00):
You're in my thoughts and prayers as you're going through
this tough time through simracing.
Yes, same, yeah, I'll bless you.
You're gonna have a moment ofsilence on the show.
I appreciate it.

Jason (50:11):
We'll break it, we just broke it.
But, dude, I'm telling you-.

Jeff (50:15):
Work through it, buddy.

Jason (50:17):
Five years in the sim racing for your boy and just two
weeks ago I was makingadjustments to my seat to find
the right.
It's really hard to find thatright thing, dude, but having
the hardware to help you do it,it's a good step in the right
direction.
If you can hold off toSeptember, because if I decide

(50:41):
to buy a motion I might donatesomething to you for the front
mount.
Just saying.

Erick (50:45):
Rob Markman.
Hey, so I got a little bit ofadjustability on mine, so I'm
gonna max that out and see andcheck it out why would you have
to go to a different?

Jeff (50:55):
get rid of the front mount if you want motion because if
you want your, if you want tomount your rig, let's say with
motion screens get close rightto to the, to the shaft of the
ddd or the dd, excuse me right,but I don't want anything in the
way.

Jason (51:15):
I just want that one single motor and a line of
profile so that I can mountstuff, so they can go in front
of the screen with a, with a,with a front mount.
Our style now is to put themonitor as low as possible to
create this Seamless.
This dash looking thing Likethe road is here but then you

(51:36):
have a dash just behind it likethat you know what I'm trying to
say Like an overlap, but withmotion.
If you're going to put themotor in front of the screen now
, you have this big metal piecegoing like that in front of it.

Jeff (51:48):
I see you see what I'm saying, the minimal amount of
stuff in front of the screen.

Jason (51:52):
Don't ruin the immersion, gotcha.
Just the steering wheel.
Makes sense and that's all infront of you and then you can
add your dashes and stuff to goand populate, but no big giant
piece of metal going like that.
That's kind of what we did fornow.
Right, that's what we did, forno Motion and to have a stable
platform, plebs and common folkwith no Motion.

(52:14):
I almost feel bad, because I'mthe one that kind of motivated
you to get the front mount.

Jeff (52:22):
Dude, I love no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was going there the wholetime.
I even Dude.
I asked her right.
No, that's all me, I love it.
I wouldn't go back even if Ihad the choice, except for
motion.
I think it looks.
It's freaking awesome, exceptfor motion.
We're going to have to makesome changes, so we're going to
have some front mounts.
I hope motion's terrible.

Jason (52:38):
On the TGSR store.
We'll put them up for sale.
Oh, you hope he hate it bro Ihope I I hate it.
Hey, that would be the bestthing because I can stop
worrying about that too.
I know I want to be there torecord his reaction.

Erick (52:52):
We're going to record each other's reactions.
Oh yeah, for sure, for sure,yeah, that's going to be great,
that's going to be-.

Jason (52:57):
The clock is ticking, jeff, I hope man.

Jeff (53:09):
I'm going to have to make a few phone calls, man with some
banks to see what I can do,like, hey, bring a brand new
credit card.

Jason (53:12):
Put something on this man .
Come on, they gave it to me.
Well, I guess you know eric.
Um, you know, daniel moreheadhad a nice video.
Uh, shout out to danielmorehead.
Pro gt, gt3 pushing out somegood content lately.
Yes, he's been active and yes,sir, he did a video about
ergonomics and I recommendeverybody view that, because I

(53:34):
can't pretend to give you theright answer right now because
there's so many differentconfigs, but I guess you can
hear it from a real-life driveron how you should be positioned
and that's what helped me withthe seat.
To be honest, to be fair, andever since I made that change,
uh, breakings, um, my break-insimproved because I'm not moving

(53:56):
no more.
Before I was doing a little bitof this.
Now it's just a steady, justlike, just pressure essentially.
But yeah, I'll leave a link inthe description Shout out to
Daniel Moore and the GOAT.

Jeff (54:12):
Daytona 24s.
Two times Double row.
Next up, he is One for eachwrist.
There you go.

Jason (54:22):
Yes, sir, alrighty, over to Jeff for his topic of the
week.

Jeff (54:29):
Gentlemen, we have been hot and heavy with the 3D
printing as of late.
I think everybody would agreewe have communitively the whole
3D Bamboo Lab covered.
So, with that said, I found apage on YouTube.
This gentleman you guys thatI'm sharing here, that you can

(54:51):
see now shout out Third WheelExclusive.
This gentleman claims Wait.

Jason (54:58):
Third Wheel.
That just don't sound right.

Jeff (55:01):
Yeah, we're just going to let that one, jason, we're just
going to let that one go, okay.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Yeah.

Jeff (55:07):
All right, don't let that one go, okay, yeah, so all right
.
So this dude, um, has beenclaimed he's been 3d printing
for 30 days and I'm going toshow you this is like I.
I say that tongue-in-cheekbecause, like, what he's about
to show you is incrediblyimpressive for a 3d printing for
30 days.
It makes me look like you knowelementary school dude with a 3d
printer, but anyways, so thisis his.

(55:28):
He's got, you know, a prettydecent YouTube channel, um, if
you haven't seen him, check himout.
He pushes out some really coolstuff, but, uh, he talks about
what he's about to do.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
And I'm going to skip around.

Jeff (55:38):
I'm going to skip around here because I really want to
show some certain points.
Um, in here we're going to talkabout I'm gonna let it play and
we're going to talk about I'mgonna let it play and we're
going to talk about it realquick.
So this portion here is hisdesign in some cad software.
I am not a cad software pro.
I got my kid on like tinker cadand he's crushing.
He's up there every night with,uh, tinker cad tinker cad is

(56:00):
kind of cool man.
That's dude, he loves it.
We're like this weekend.
He's like no, I'm ready toprint, dad, so we're gonna try
to do that that's impressive.

Jason (56:06):
Yeah, no, I'm ready to print, dad, so we're going to
try to print off TinkerCad.
Dude, I've used TinkerCad.
That's impressive.

Jeff (56:09):
Oh dude, it's impressive.
That's for another dayaltogether.
So this dude designed thisthing.
I'm going to let it play it'son my streaming computers.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I don't know how long that's going to hold up to me
zooming out too much, but youcan kind of get the idea.

Jeff (56:25):
So what you're looking at is the I don't know I've never
been inside one but a Porschecup car dash.
He designed it by, like lookingat pictures on the internet.
You know, probably had somemeasurements here or there, but
he designed this by himself inthis CAD software and you can,

(56:47):
if you look closely, you cankind of see the breaks in where
it is.
So it prints in certain piecesand I'm going to jump ahead here
to the next one.
Next one here is so this is hisfirst go to Buttonbox and he
gives a couple different goes.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
I've had it on the range for quite a while.

Jeff (57:02):
If you guys have seen the videos from before, you'll this
is pretty damn good for a firstgo at a button box.
It's way better than I couldproduce.
So, he's got a couple ofdifferent.
I'm just going to skip throughhere to show his some of his
progression from button boxesthat he's going to put you know,
obviously in the in the centerconsole ish area.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
This is what an actual Porsche 991 button box
looks like.
To some degree it's got alittle bit different button
layout.
I took a few liberties ofchanging some things up.
I wanted to get some leds on afew of the buttons.
I've got led rings in some ofthem yeah, I mean first go to
button box yeah, that's prettysolid, pretty damn solid, bro.

Jeff (57:42):
That looks like it came out of a store yeah, I mean,
there's people that pay a couplehundred bucks for that thing
off ety or wherever right, yeah,so I'm going to jump ahead here
so you can see as he's puttingtogether the dash.
So shout out.
This is something I do.
I wrap a lot.
Jason knows I wrap a lot ofthings in carbon fiber for my

(58:03):
rig.

Jason (58:03):
Hell yeah, he does.
You do a good job too.

Jeff (58:06):
Thank you.
This is him piecing togetherthe dash.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Together to some degree for me, like I started to
understand some things inprinting and it just started to
click a little bit to where Icould start to get something
that looked more realistic.
One of the tricks of printingthis has been with anything on
the dash thing bracket.

Jeff (58:27):
So this is the backside of it.
You can see how he connects thepieces.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Basically, this was the max size I could do for the
back plate on my print bed and Iwanted I didn't want the seams
in this back mound here or inthe shroud to be in the same
spot as these plates.

Jeff (58:43):
So basically, so obviously this dude did a lot of thinking
before he, you know, went forfinal print.
Um, oh yeah.
But you know like you can seehim starting to piece these
things together and startbuilding this out.
So I'm gonna jump ahead here,as he's starting to piece this
thing um into his rig and youcan cart to see like he's got a

(59:06):
wind sim that's integrated intoit.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Um, that I've created to slide in right over here and
to finish filling in the restof the day I'm gonna skip
through as he slowly pieces thisthing together here started.
So I'm not trying to find thatit slips right over the hub
connection, but it all clips in,just has a very snug, nice fit

(59:31):
right over the wheel shaft and Iwas very fortunate that, like,
even though I've had to make afew adjustments.

Jeff (59:36):
This guy should sell it perfect.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, because it can't really move much, because
of that wheel shaft all right,so that locked in, really nice.

Jeff (59:43):
The wheel shaft or the shaft turns I mean, you look at
it, you start to see the dashintegrating with the screens and
stuff, right it, it's juststarting to come together here.
I'll jump further ahead here.
It looks cool man.
So this is him putting in thecenter console over his Fanatec
shifter.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
Some decent alignment .
The one thing I will say I'mfairly impressed with is it's
actually pretty sturdy, not evenbolting it in now one thing I
do really like about this design.

Jeff (01:00:15):
So this dude spent a lot of time measuring and planning,
right, because I mean this stufftakes a long time to produce.
And I got one more of kind ofhim driving the car and you can
kind of see the final, the finalproduct here.
So he's got an actual wheelthat kind of fits along with
what it's supposed to go with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
But uh, I'm just gonna let this go for a couple
minutes.
A lot of work to get to thispoint, a lot of trial and error
and I have to say it lookspretty good overall.
Um, I would say the netprobably needs to be moved over.
I do have plans, like I said,to get that where it needs to be

(01:00:55):
Definitely a little thrown offLeft side.

Jason (01:00:58):
This is.
Vr no.

Jeff (01:01:02):
This is his rig.
This is his rig Like no VR, nopass this is like GoPro or
something right yeah, it's GoPro.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
He's probably going to a gopro on his forehead or
chest or something, kind of justcutting down right here on his
forehead.
I think that would really helpa lot with that view.

Jeff (01:01:18):
Yeah, I mean.
So you get the point right, umyeah here.
I'll cancel this out.
That's awesome, you know, andthis is the second one that I've
seen like this.
The first one was the dude hadI think it was a Huracan that he
bought the plans for andprinted, but this is the first
one that the dude showed himpiecing together.
He did himself too.

(01:01:39):
Like this dude did it fromscratch, and I'm like, bro, like
you could sell those plans andprobably make some money.

Jason (01:01:45):
That's pretty cool Right.

Jeff (01:01:47):
The only downfall I see here is that you're kind of
married to the cup car, yes, butif that's your thing, jason,
how much other stuff are youdriving lately?

Jason (01:01:56):
Lately Dude, just the BMW and the cup, but they're both
carbon fiber interiors, so it'llmake sense.

Erick (01:02:03):
Yeah, right, yeah, the second he drives something
that's not a Porsche cup car.
It's going to be real weird.

Jason (01:02:10):
Yeah.

Erick (01:02:11):
But when he's in it, he's in it.

Jason (01:02:13):
It looks the steering wheel.

Erick (01:02:15):
So I looked up their steering wheel.
That's like a $1,500 steeringwheel.
Oh is it really yeah, Likeleather Porsche.
That ain't no rinky-dinksteering wheel.

Jeff (01:02:26):
Oh, I thought it was like a wrap you put on like a Fanatec
or something.
The opposite's on the spectrum.

Erick (01:02:33):
Hey, if he wrapped the wheel and made that, it'd look
great, because it's a carboncopy of the actual Porsche wheel
you can get.
Is it really?
They get cheap, yeah.

Jeff (01:02:41):
So I mean, this dude's been 3D printing for 30 days and
he put that together.
That's impressive by itself.
Days and he put that together,that's impressive by itself.
And then like but then like theimmersion factor of driving
this thing, it, I'm gonna givecredit where credit's due.
I think that's hell yeah right,that's what this is all about is
, you know you got something andyou just try to make it better,

(01:03:03):
make it better, make it better.
And you know the dude taughthimself probably a shit ton
about cad software and 3Dprinting.
And you know like dude shoutout, you know, third wheel,
exclusive or whatever he is Like, sell that stuff, dude.
You could probably make apretty good.
At least recoup some of themoney for the 3D printer.

Erick (01:03:22):
Yeah, at a minimum he could just sell the plans.
Yeah, just the plans, just theplans, yeah, yeah.

Jeff (01:03:32):
And you know, a weekend later you got a interior for a
cup car or a p car you know.

Jason (01:03:34):
That's exciting, though, because it's it's like something
that you just, you just don'tbelieve it that you have the
machine here and that's all youneed is the machine, the
filament so do you think that?

Jeff (01:03:45):
you know I we brought it up a little bit a while ago
about the mixed reality, becauseobviously we like the immersion
of the VR, but this kind ofalmost gets rid of that because
you have it, there's nopass-through, like you're there,
yeah Well, it's an option.
Right, it's an option.
It's just do you see more ofthis coming along where somebody

(01:04:07):
puts a BMW together?
You see this being in six,eight months?
There's kind of like 10 modelsout there.
Do you see more of this comingalong where somebody puts a BMW
together?
You see this being in six,eight months?

Erick (01:04:14):
There's kind of like 10 models out there, so I could see
it, but I think it's stillgoing to be niche, mostly
because, like I said, as long asyou're driving that specific
Porsche car, the immersion isamazing Right.

Jason (01:04:27):
Yeah.

Erick (01:04:28):
The second you try to drive anything else it's going
to be weird, it's going to bewonky, sure.

Jason (01:04:34):
Yeah, it's going to and I noticed that on the corners it
covered part of the screen.
I couldn't help but notice thatshe was playing Iris in the
loop.
But I mean again, I've beenracing the Porsche a lot and
I've been racing a lot so muchthat I almost don't want to race
the BMW no more.
I want to race in the Porschenow and dedicate more time,

(01:04:57):
because I barely have time topractice, and every time I'm
done with a race I got threedays to practice for the next
and get used to holding anotherset of car.
You know.

Erick (01:05:08):
Yeah.

Jason (01:05:10):
So, I think, jeffff, honestly, bro, go ahead.
You um, I meant to text you,but that guy you were following,
he finally posted theinstructions you were looking
for.
Oh, I watched it, oh yeah oh,yeah, yeah I'm a little
disappointed.
Was it full of it?
It was full of it.
I told you it was the samething.
We gathered.

Jeff (01:05:30):
What we gathered here, jeff and I, it's funny, we did
it on the same night too.

Jason (01:05:36):
We were trying to figure this out and I pushed Jeff a
little bit.
I was like, come on, man, youhaven't figured this out yet.
And then I said, watch, I'mgoing to do this.

Jeff (01:05:45):
I was like it's so not good that I was like this can't
be how he did it.

Jason (01:05:49):
There's got to be a different way and sure you need
to shine light, yeah, on top ofa wheel, like external light,
and then everything else has tobe pitch black, bro, for you to,
for that to be able to work,the problem is that my steering
wheel has a screen, so nowyou're introducing glare on top
of the screen.

Jeff (01:06:08):
It's just yeah, you're probably gonna turn down of the
screen, it's just.
Yeah, you're probably going tohave to turn down some.

Jason (01:06:11):
We're not ready yet.
We're not ready yet for that.

Jeff (01:06:13):
I was watching some flight sim dudes that have passed
through and they use a programKneeboard.
Okay.
So, like you know, normally ina pilot, you know a real pilot I
say you know puts his you knowKneeboard notebook on there and
he has, like you know, radiofrequencies, call signs etc.
And they put a pass throughthat you can look down to your

(01:06:34):
leg, um, and I think there's ahandful of guys out there that
you and you can draw the patternof your.
So a lot of like the flight simguys are very cockpit aircraft
specific, you know.
So they have different outlinesand shapes that go through
there.
Yeah, that they're lookingthrough and they can draw
specific cockpits and put themin their files so as they switch

(01:06:56):
from aircraft to aircraft intheir flight sim they can go for
a different pass-through oh, Iwant to get in there and try and
draw mine.
You know it's a simple programthat you.

Jason (01:07:07):
You bought flights in have you?

Jeff (01:07:08):
no, no, no, but I'm going to try Kneeboard.
You should try Flight Sim.
Bro, use Kneeboard and see if Ican let it just pass through,
you should try Flight Sim, bro.

Jason (01:07:16):
I think that's the next step for you.

Jeff (01:07:18):
Don't do it.

Jason (01:07:19):
Dude.

Jeff (01:07:20):
I want to.
So bad I used to do it bro.

Jason (01:07:23):
I was on a commercial flight from Hawaii to Japan, and
I went to Japan, of course.

Jeff (01:07:27):
And.

Jason (01:07:27):
I went to sleep and I left the freaking plane on
autopilot flying and I went tobed in real life Over China.

Jeff (01:07:36):
It's cool, bro.
The last thing I need isanother rig over there next to
it with an.

Jason (01:07:40):
F-16.
No, no, no, you don't needanother rig.

Jeff (01:07:41):
No, you do yeah because you can't do both.
You can't do both.

Jason (01:07:44):
You can emulate your clutch pedal and your gas pedal.
Turn those into rudders.
Bro, where's your stick?
Your stick?

Erick (01:07:50):
bro Okay.
Yeah, you can buy that newlittle deal where you can use
the one, you can buy the onesthat come out like this you got
that new.
What was it?
The active shifter?
Oh yeah, the.

Jason (01:08:03):
Moza thing Moza yeah.

Erick (01:08:06):
Yeah, you got the all-in-one deal.
Man, Go from H-pattern tosequential to flight stick.

Jeff (01:08:12):
That's it bro, I don't know man.
I think.
Vr is the way to go for that.
But the moment you do a roll,you're either going to get sick
because you're not rolling, bro,you're not flying an F-16, bro.

Jason (01:08:26):
That's the only reason I do flight stick.
It's a commercial plane.
It team, bro.

Jeff (01:08:31):
That's what that's the only reason it's a commercial
plane.
It's not gonna roll like thatshit.
No, I'm doing, you're gonnasnap the wings.

Jason (01:08:34):
He's like you.
Better be damn, I'm getting.
Uh, he's like this and theplane is like abort, pull again.

Jeff (01:08:43):
No, it's free, they said.
They said that they were.
Uh, I think uh they're at this.
They're gonna have some flightsims right they're gonna have.
I don't want no cessna, I don'twant to airbus 770, I want an
f-16, a10, f-18, whatever brohey you're talking about serious
money.

Jason (01:09:02):
If you want to build one of those, you're gonna come back
.
I made up my mind.

Jeff (01:09:07):
There's some guys that have unbelievable setups in
flight sims.
Unbelievable setups.

Jason (01:09:14):
They have iPads, too, that talk to the Airbus and they
use real life map data fromNavigraph.

Jeff (01:09:22):
I had subscriptions, the sun sets on as their flight
plans, they got like all theactual buttons and switches and
they all work on the yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Woo.

Jeff (01:09:32):
Yeah, there's YouTube on there.

Jason (01:09:35):
Oh yeah, we're going to be all over that, man, and this
is another reason man, check outthat Sim Gaming Expo man.
Stop sleeping on it, chicane.
10.
Get that 10% off, I'm tellingyou, and come hang out with the
crew and it costs them.
F125?
F125?
You don't need it, bro, youdon't need it.

Jeff (01:09:50):
It looks just like 23, or 24.
It looks like 23.
Can?

Jason (01:09:54):
they please let go of F1 and not WRC, right, didn't I say
that?
Let go of freaking something,let go of the F1 title man, stop
playing.
Anyway, I guess they heard you.

Jeff (01:10:10):
We digress you weren't specific enough how we feel
about.

Jason (01:10:13):
F1.
But it's that time.

Jeff (01:10:15):
What time?

Jason (01:10:17):
It's that time of the week For Track of the Week, and
I messed up my own segment.
It's that time for Track of theWeek.
We're back with Track of theWeek and today it is yours truly
and I have chosen the FujiSpeedway is what I have next.

Erick (01:10:37):
Okay.

Jason (01:10:40):
Another favorite of mine.
I've been wanting to cover this.

Jeff (01:10:42):
Let her rip Tater Chip.

Jason (01:10:44):
All right, gentlemen.
So let me pull up the notes,Talk them onto yourselves while
I get that Just real quick.
It shouldn't be quick.
It shouldn't be that.
It'll be there in a second.
I thought I had it up and Iguess I didn't.
Hey, man.

Erick (01:11:05):
It happens, man, You're getting older man.

Jeff (01:11:07):
Oh, wow You're wearing that McLaren shirt.
If you put on a Mercedes shirt,it'd probably happen a lot
faster.

Jason (01:11:12):
It's a Piastri on my back , so you know Piastri's a good
dude.

Jeff (01:11:16):
It's hard to hate on the dude.

Jason (01:11:17):
He's just Yep, piastri is doing amazing things and I
think he should be the numberone driver.

Jeff (01:11:22):
He goes home and probably plays Minecraft or something.

Jason (01:11:25):
Probably.

Jeff (01:11:26):
Or Roblox.

Jason (01:11:27):
What is that Roblox?

Jeff (01:11:28):
Yeah, Everybody's all partying.
Damn bro, he's out there like Ijust built the coolest farm.

Jason (01:11:39):
All right, is this in shot?
I believe it is.

Erick (01:11:42):
Yes, sir.

Jason (01:11:43):
Let me bring up my notes and we will go over the Fuji
Speedway, which looks like whatdoes this look like to?

Jeff (01:11:49):
you, it looks like an AK.

Jason (01:11:51):
It looks like a Tommy gun , bro.
I was about to say Like a.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Tommy gun.

Jason (01:11:53):
That's it, yeah, like a Tommy gun.
Okay, all right, let's go backto what it looked like back in
the whoa.

Erick (01:12:00):
What is this?
Did you see this?
What is this?
It actually looked pretty cool.

Jason (01:12:07):
Okay, yeah, we're gonna have to read into what happened
here, um, but let me get rightinto it guys.
Track of the week.
Fuji speedway here we go.
Located near mount fuji injapan, has unique, has a unique
and storied history that beganin the early 1960s with
ambitious plans to build aNASCAR-style oval.

(01:12:30):
That's how it started Then theygot smart yeah.

Jeff (01:12:35):
I shouldn't say that to our NASCAR listeners.

Jason (01:12:37):
It's all right, man, you be yourself, bro, straight, no
chaser.
Exactly Inspired by DaytonaSpeedway, the circuit was
initially designed with two longstraights.
You guys have that up on screenright the two long straights.
You guys have that up on screenright the two long straights.
I count one, or maybe let mejust continue reading, yeah, go

(01:12:59):
ahead Two long straightsconnected by high bank corners.
However yeah, I had to finishreading.
After financial struggles andsafety concerns, voiced notably
by sterling moss, the oval planwas abandoned midway through
construction.
The circuit was completed as ahigh-speed road course and,

(01:13:20):
although the nascar partnershipwas dropped, the speedway name
remained.
So that's so, that's how.
That's why it's called fuSpeedway, because it was
supposed to be an oval track.
Mitsubishi acquired the trackin 1965, shortly after it opened
.
Despite the change in layout,fuji remained extremely fast and

(01:13:44):
dangerous.
The long main straight fed intoa banked high right-hand turn
with minimal safety features,leading to several severe
crashes.
Here we go again with thecrashes.
The circuit opened upofficially in 1965, with racing
beginning the following year.
International interest grewquickly, with appearances from

(01:14:08):
stars like Jimim clark, jackiestewart and bobby unser.
Um, usac indycar and the can-amseries visited the.
In the late 60s, however,safety concerns mounted uh,
culminating in the tragic 1974crash, which is probably why the

(01:14:28):
year after it changed right, wehad a change here.

Erick (01:14:32):
Yeah.

Jason (01:14:33):
It was a tragic 1974 crash that killed two drivers.
This led to the removal of thebanking from active use,
replaced by a safer layout witha new hairpin.
So let's take a look at that.
They basically just it happenedhere and they just cut it, just
shorten it down, like theybasically cut it off, I guess.

(01:14:56):
Anywho, fuji gainedinternational prominence in 1976
by hosting Japan's first, firstformula one grand prix.
so look at that, jeff, we usedto race the og for japan's f1

(01:15:19):
yeah the race became legendaryas james hunt secured a
championship in dramaticconditions after nikki lauda
with Jew.
Due to heavy rain and poorvisibility, however, tragedy
struck again in 1977 on a crashinvolving Gillis Villanueva,

(01:15:40):
resulted in the deaths of twotrackside personnel.
People on the trackside, damn.
This ended Fuji's initial runas an F1 venue.

Jeff (01:15:51):
Oh man, Is this the one where they started.
And that dude stalled it andthe mechanic ran out there and
got hit from behind.

Jason (01:15:58):
Yeah.

Jeff (01:15:58):
Yeah.

Jason (01:16:00):
Yeah, it was pretty bad too, he got hit.

Jeff (01:16:02):
There's video of it.
It's like-.

Jason (01:16:04):
Man, there's warnings on that video too.

Jeff (01:16:07):
This is kind of there's like warnings on that video too.

Jason (01:16:08):
It should be.
It's terrible.
So then it says throughout the80s and 1990s, fuji remained
focused on national events, withoccasional international races
such as World EnduranceChampionship.
Safety improvements were madeover the years, including the

(01:16:29):
addition of multiple chicanes,updated barriers and gravel
traps.
However, incidents continue tooccur, most notably in 1998.
So let's go and skip to 98,which is this layout.
So I guess let me just go do arundown here and make sure
Something crazy happens.
Little minor changes right here.

(01:16:49):
You see this.
Right here, this little cornerkind of kind of tighten it up
yeah, a little chicane, a couplechicanes in the right here.

Jeff (01:16:58):
Yeah, yeah, that'll happen .
Yeah, I got a question for yougentlemen.
What's that?
See where how it says 100r and300r.
Yeah, I think, think the othertrack in Japan's I can't think
of it right now Suzuka, suzukahas a turn in there, something
R2.
What is?
Do you know what that was?

(01:17:19):
Whatever number, and the Rmeans.

Jason (01:17:21):
So that is a good, is it, hey?
Comments below Email theChicane Podcast if you know the
answer to this.

Jeff (01:17:29):
I wonder if it's the same thing to do with the R that's
after the curve monitors.
Yeah, I think it is.

Erick (01:17:36):
Maybe I think the smaller the number, the tighter the
turn.

Jason (01:17:40):
We'll come back to this and update you on that, because
I honestly don't know, bro know,bro, um, so anyway, there was a
, there was a good, good, uh,good note there, jeff um,
because there is a 300r, Ibelieve, in suzuka, which is
that long, you know, that longband, high speed, yeah, yeah.
So this incident that occurredin 98 uh, when driver tetsuya

(01:18:05):
ota suffered severe burns in afiery crash, exposing serious
shortcomings in emergencyresponsive marshalling, and then
in the year 2000, which we'llgo over to 2000 now, which is
the same, that's the layout98-2000, toyota brought the

(01:18:26):
circuit and initiated a majoroverhaul, hiring designer Herman
Tauch I probably butchered thatto redesign the track to modern
Formula One standards.
The newly updated facilityreopened in 2005.
Is that still accurate here?
It is so.
That's to date, when it openedup.

(01:18:48):
It is so, that's to date, whenit opened up.
So the newly uh where was I?
2005 would improveinfrastructure and reprofiled
layout, retaining much of itsoriginal course but removing the
dangerous final corner.
F1 returned in 2007 and 2008,but heavy rain, poor crowd
logistics and controversy overToyota's handling of the event

(01:19:12):
led to a fan backlash afteralternating with Suzuka in 2009.
So that's how they used to doit.
They used to do.
I guess they alternated it whenin 07 there were an F1 and then
09 they did a Suzuka In 2009,they did Suzuka.
The global recession promptedToyota to exit F1, and the Grand

(01:19:34):
Prix did not return to Fuji.
Since then, fuji Speedway hasreturned to hosting primarily
national-level events.
It remained a key stop for theWorld Endurance Championship,
though even that has beenplagued by the region's
unpredictable weather.
I mean, it makes sense.

(01:19:55):
This is this is a track at fuji.
There's a lot of rain up there.
I mean, it's bad weather upthere all the time, such as 2013
race, which was red flaggedafter only 16 laps on their
safety car.
Uniquely among major circuits,fuji embraces drifting Hell yeah

(01:20:15):
, hosting the one Grand Prixevents and offering dedicated
drift and short tracks forpublic and amateur use.
It also hosts major fanfestivals, including nismo and
toyota motorsport festivals, andremains accessible to the
public for track days that'scool yeah, so they're trying to

(01:20:37):
use it.
You know what I mean.
Fuji story is, uh, you knowit's crazy how technically this
track should have been an ovaland now then it should have been
part of the f1 calendar, butit's just had bad luck ever
since, you know, ever since theyopened it.
So yeah it's still owned bytoyota and the the last redesign

(01:20:59):
was in 2005.
The trend length is 2.8 milesor 4.5 kilometers.
Uh, main straight is uh 1.5kilometers long, like almost a
mile long.
Uh, one of the longest inmotorsport.
Uh, fia grade is one suitablefor formula, so it has the grade

(01:21:21):
uh yeah, that looks like abadass track for f1 yeah, yeah
so weather put it this way yeahyou're probably right, eric well
the world.
The World EnduranceChampionship race is there.
Those are P1 cars, bro.

Jeff (01:21:33):
Oh really.

Jason (01:21:34):
They're pretty damn fast.
They're just as fast as an F1car.
Yeah, that's true, and now yougot people drifting around the
track.
I mean that's pretty dangeroustoo.
But anyways, some notablethings about it.
1976 Japanese Grand Prix titledeciding F1 race is an extreme
rain.
That was the, the, and then, ayear later, it was the fatal

(01:21:58):
accident.
And then in 2013, as Imentioned before, but that's
Fuji for you, hopefully, maybe26,.
We have hopes with F1, uh,changing a bunch of things and
maybe they can check out Fuji,but with the weather being the
way it is up there, I can seethat being a concern.

Jeff (01:22:18):
Yeah, 100%.

Jason (01:22:20):
Yeah, so that's track of the week in the bag Once again.
I figured I owed the honors toit to Fuji, and it's unfortunate
man, it's just unfortunate.
You know that those thingshappen and yeah it's always when
they open track, someone dies,or someone that's trying to

(01:22:42):
watch the event have a good time, they die.
You know, it's kind of kind ofbeen the trend with track of the
week lately, but you know itmakes you think, because when
you were talking about that, Iwas thinking of the Isle of TT.

Jeff (01:22:53):
How?
Many people get killed thereand they're like we don't care,
we're running it again next year, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Isle of man bro.

Jeff (01:23:01):
That's the island in Scotland bro I don't know how
those riders get on themotorcycle with stones that big.

Jason (01:23:12):
Bro, that is a.
That's not even a track, that'sa small town that they racing
through.
Yeah, yeah, it's a death mydriveway is wider than that road
.
I don't have a driveway, that'sthat fast I've seen them doing
wheelies and turning the bike atthe same time.
The front end is coming up.
Yeah, go ahead, eric.
Now I'm just gonna say that'son two wheels, man, that's you
know open wheel is one thing buttwo wheelies and turning the
bike.

Erick (01:23:29):
At the same time the front end is coming up.
Go ahead, eric.
That's on two wheels, man.
Open wheel is one thing, buttwo wheels that's.

Jason (01:23:36):
That's a different animal .

Erick (01:23:38):
all together it's wild, you might as well be flying.
Yeah, I think they.

Jason (01:23:46):
You might as well.
That's crazy.

Jeff (01:23:48):
That'd be cool to go see in person too, someone's going
to.

Jason (01:23:51):
maybe we can do a special on that track man, I don't know
.
Let us know if you guys want tous to cover some history on the
TT.
It's not sim racing, but it'ssome.
Some sort of racing could befun.
Anyways, uh, that's going to beit for today.
I um going to be it for today.
I'm excited to have Track ofthe Week back, excited for our

(01:24:13):
new sponsor, trophy AI, and justcounting down the weeks, man.
So round table everybody.
What we got, what did we miss?
We'll start with Eric Kelly.

Erick (01:24:24):
Nothing man, Just ready for the Sim Gaming Expo.

Jason (01:24:28):
Already, there you go.

Erick (01:24:29):
All right man.

Jason (01:24:29):
I'm ready for Monaco Gaming Expo Already.
Here we go Already.
All right, man, I'm ready forMonaco too.
I want that Monaco track comingback around the calendar year.
Yes, sir and Jeff, what aboutyou, man, what you got for?
Save round alibis.

Jeff (01:24:40):
I got a couple save rounds that I did not spill during the
announcements that I probablyshould have.
Yeah, the listeners haveprobably heard me complain, or
you know, talking about thissaid wind simulator.
I have pulled the trigger.
Oh you did.
It got delivered today.
Oh snap, I will be installingit tonight and we'll give it a

(01:25:01):
go.
I also what's that I said?

Jason (01:25:05):
good luck with that, bro.
Give me a call if you need help.
It could be disgusting, youmight need an extra pair of
hands to hold stuff up.
Good luck with that, bro.
Give me a call if you need help.
It could be disgusting, youmight need an extra pair of
hands to hold stuff up.

Jeff (01:25:14):
I know my rig's not really in the best places people can
see.
Like anything on this side ofthe rig is incredibly difficult
to access.

Jason (01:25:20):
It's just straight up, no access.

Jeff (01:25:21):
It's just, yeah, that's more or less what it is.
Everything goes on the otherside, so that I have been you
probably have been talking aboutI do almost solely formula
racing, so I've kind of designeda fuselage.
If you will, then all the partsthat I've been trying to build
that I need here are here.

(01:25:43):
I've slowly started to puttogether if you can see around
it, it's a mess as I'm kind ofputting it together this weekend
, so hopefully next week it'llbe ready to go.
We'll see.
You know, there's always oh, Imissed that, I forgot to get
that, or you know, or oh youknow.
Something didn't come up.
I need to get it.

Jason (01:25:58):
Something didn't fit right or whatever.

Jeff (01:26:00):
Right, absolutely.
So there's probably somethinglike that that'll come here in
the next couple of days.
Um, yeah, other than that,that's about it, you know that's
a big changes.
I'm pumped to try to get thewhim simulator.
I did not go the hurricaneroute, um, and I'll kind of give
a quick rundown why I didn't.
Cause you know, everybody waslike, oh, the hurricane's the
best, um, and then I watchedthis YouTube review of I forget

(01:26:23):
what it is.
It's like the sim racing garage.
Older gentlemen oh yeah, hasgarage.
Older gentleman oh yeah, hasthis.
Uh, that's a super nice racing.
Yeah, super nice rig in hisgarage.
Older gentleman long hair um,has like a little skinny mic out
in front of him great qualityvideos together, long videos too
like videos, right, if you wantto know that like he takes
apart the thing, uh.

(01:26:44):
So he took apart the hurricane,uh wind sim and he broke down
the to the component level andwhen I saw that it was like a 35
dollar you know pc fan and thenarduino's and a power supply, I
was like I just don't know if Ican justify that much when,
like, if something breaks, Ifeel like I could fix it, either

(01:27:05):
buy a new arduino's because Ihad debated about building my
own, because I've watched a shitton of videos over the arduino
soldering and stuff like thatand then program it didn't seem
rocket surgery, if you will.
Um.
So I bought, went off areputable uh etsy dude that was
in the united, it was in thestates.
Um, I just didn't want to waiton you know the jason it takes
forever to get shipping fromeurope here in hawaii.

(01:27:27):
So a reputable dude on Etsy, Idon't know it off the top of my
head and I went that way.
It's like if the fan burns out,I'll buy another fan off Amazon,
if the Arduinos fails orwhatever, I will buy an $18, $30
Arduinos chip, put it in there.
I just wasn't ready to do itmyself, I guess.

(01:27:48):
So anyways, long story short, Iwent that route.
We'll give it a go.
I'll give you guys my feedbackand take it for what it's worth.
But yeah, it'll be a busy nextcouple of days for me as I get
some work done on the sim.

Jason (01:28:00):
And we can't guarantee that Jeff will give us words
next week on the show because,again, like he said, things
might go wrong or you know.
So hopefully we can.
I'll do my best, but no problem.

Jeff (01:28:13):
Yeah, eventually you'll get feedback.

Jason (01:28:16):
Yeah, so our next episode is actually a very special one.
So we'll be going over thestory of the Chicane podcast and
its origins and its first yearwhere we are and what we're
dreams of, and right now it'smotion.
That's kind of the Chicanepodcast and its origins and its
first year where we are and whatwe're dreams of Right now.
It's motion.
That's kind of the dream rightnow.
And the gaming expo and someChicago pizza, bro, because

(01:28:42):
they're known for the pizza outthere, even though I can debate
that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
I know Jeff is probably like that's thick pasta
.

Jason (01:28:52):
Yeah, some deep dish pizza and just.

Jeff (01:28:54):
I'll try it, I'm just going to dunk.

Jason (01:28:58):
I'm just going to.

Erick (01:29:01):
You want to hear something funny, send it.
A guy at work.
He's from Chicago and he wastelling us about Chicago-style
pizza.
And we're like, oh yeah, nowthat pizza sucks, it's pie,
basically like pizza pie.
Nobody wants that.
And he's like what are youtalking about?
He's like what are y'alltalking about?
We're like what are you talkingabout?

(01:29:22):
You're talking about Chicagostyle pizza.
That's the deep like superthick.
He's like no, chicago style.
Chicago pizza is thin crustpizza.
And we were like you don't knowChicago pizza, because Chicago
pizza is the deep dish and wegoogled it and thin crust pizza
originated from Chicago.

(01:29:42):
They called it old tavern styleor some style pizza.
But he's like yeah, likeeverybody, my whole family all
we eat is thin crust because itcame from Chicago.
I was like the more you know, Ilearned something today.

Jason (01:29:59):
We got to test this theory out and see how the pizza
tastes down there.
I know, Vlad knows some spots.
Yeah, one bite.
You know the rules, I washoping somebody would do what I
was talking about.
Yep, I love that guy.
That guy is awesome bostonstuff right there, but yeah, all
he does is go around eatingpizza all day bar that's his job

(01:30:22):
yeah, hell of a day pornoid allright, g.
Thank you so much, everybody.
Love to see the smiles, love tosee you guys and, yeah, this is
the final, final, final episodebefore the our start of the
year.
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
You're going to be our new fiscal year, I guess.

Jason (01:30:42):
And with that, have a great start of your week.
Thank you.

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