Simucube 3: Upgrades, Tradeoffs, And What Matters Most

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Jason (00:00):
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I'm your host, Jason Mavero,and I'm joined here by Jeff

(00:40):
Smar.
How you doing today, bud?

Jeff (00:42):
Dude, doing better than I deserve.
Uh dude, I drove way too muchthis week.
Um, I'm sure everybody's sickand tired of hearing about the
belt tensioners.
But if you want to drive less,don't get a belt tensioner
because it has got made me wantto get in the rig way more than
I A should.
Um, but it is it's just theexperience, it adds to the

(01:07):
experience of the immersion.
It's just it's awesome.
So um, yeah, I drove a shitton.
Um, actually got into some carsthat I didn't think I would get
into.
So uh, which kind of we'll getinto some of it on from my main
point today.
Um, but dude, I drove a lot.
How about you?
How was your week?

Jason (01:23):
Fairly straightforward, man.
I finally had a break inbreaking time here to find some
time to play Battlefield 6 thatjust came out, which is yeah, it
hurts a lot.
Unrelated sim racing, it's notsim racing, and sometimes you
need to step away from the rig.
So this last week I didn't domuch uh racing, more testing

(01:44):
than than racing.
Uh working on my next reviewfor the for the brand for Track
Go Sim Racing.
And um yeah, man, I'm excited.
I'm excited.
Um video's doing really well.
So if you guys um I'm tellingyou, the bell tensioner, for
those that went to the expo, forthose that have tried it, it

(02:06):
was really hard to come backhome and not come back home with
something.
And it's a lot cheaper thanmotion to get into to get your
feet wet into kind of like youknow, the immersive part.
I think Jeff is raving morebecause in a VR headset, I think
it just amplifies everythingway over the top uh with the

(02:28):
belts on.

Jeff (02:29):
It's funny you say that because I guess I didn't, you
know, I had been driving thiswhole week.
I think I drove 95% in VR,which is surprising.
Usually I don't drive nearlythat much in VR.
Um but to your point, yeah, itit I feel maybe it does add a
little bit more when you're inVR.
Um, but yeah, I drove acertified shit ton in VR to this
week.

Jason (02:50):
That's what's up, man.
Yeah, all right.
Well, fairly straightforwardweek.
Um, we'll move into someannouncements here, and I see
that you have a few.
Uh I'll I'll I'll cover one ofthese.
iRacing Arcade demo has beenreleased.
Uh, you could play this.
Um, I wish it was a mobilegame.

Jeff (03:09):
Um I feel like it should.
Like I've seen I have notplayed it, but I have seen
people playing it.
And it looks like it could verywell be on a mobile game.
It should be cool.

Jason (03:21):
It would be awesome.
It would be awesome.
Sorry, but it would it would beit would be great to have
something in your pocket thatyou could just whip out, do a
race.
I don't see myself connecting asteering wheel to this.
I don't know.
I need to I need to try it, butum December, yeah.
Go ahead.

Jeff (03:38):
Yeah, I mean it's I think they're talking like just you
know, uh joystick or uhhandholds uh controller would be
is what you're looking for.
So but dude, I saw playing, itwas like the uh ASW, you know,
like just the keyboard, and hewas all over.

Jason (03:53):
Oh WASD, yeah.

Jeff (03:54):
Uh WASD, yeah.
It looked it looked cool forwhat it is, it looked cool.
You know, take it for what itis.

Jason (04:01):
Yeah, I mean, it's free right now.
So I mean you can't beat freeum for now, and it'll be
released in December, like thefull version.

Jeff (04:12):
So that's kind of my yeah, to pile onto that, you know.
Look at iRacing, pushes out thearcade, and NASCAR just came
out.

Jason (04:21):
NASCAR, yeah.

Jeff (04:22):
You know, so like here they are, just continue to pump
out quality stuff, content, bro.

Jason (04:30):
Yeah, it's a it's Techtober, bro.
Tech Tober and software gamesare coming out.
Um, you know, we you mentionedtwo, we mentioned two here for
for racing, and then wementioned Forza last week coming
out with their stuff early nextyear.
So it's good, it's healthy,it's healthy.
Um, what what else you got?

(04:51):
What what what else is going onwith you, bro?
What you got for us forannouncement?

Jeff (04:54):
Yeah, I have a good friend, uh Jason Rivera, that is
a I say good friend, badinfluence on me.
Um, but he got me into I l I Istraight up made him do it too.
Um, you're gonna drive thisthing, and yeah, so um I'll get
into it a little bit more thanour main point, but uh I got in
and I've been driving the theGT, the Porsche GTP.

(05:18):
Um and that thing by itself isa rocket ship.
The 963 it is a rocket ship.
Um yeah, super cool car.
But, anyways, so I I've beenkind of doing a little bit of
you know research and justwatching Instagram videos on the
call on um uh prototypes.
Um, and then I've found out,uh, forgive me here, I am not an

(05:40):
IMSA dude, but I am slowlygetting one that slowly, slowly
but surely it's happening.
Yeah, so this past weekend, uhby the time this listening two
weekends ago, it was the IMSA,and I'm gonna butcher this, the
Petit Laman at Road of America.

Jason (05:55):
Um Petit Laman, yeah, you got it.

Jeff (05:57):
Yeah, so they had GT3s and the GTPs racing on the same
track for 10 hours.
This was my first jump into theproduct, the the GTPs, um, and
this is what I get to watch.
So it was perfect timing thatyou know, I was driving the shit
out of the the Porsche GTP andthen got to watch them on, you

(06:18):
know, together with the G, youknow, a I think it was the
champions, the last race oftheir series, so it sucks to get
into it right at the end oftheir series multi-class.
Yeah, but uh super cool.
The um the Cadillac team won,at least for the GTP, won the
race, but the uh the PorschePenske team won the
championship.
So um I am it's cool because Iyou know I've kind of revolved

(06:39):
my weekend and life around youknow watching F1.

Jason (06:42):
That's what I was gonna tell you, bro.
We can't watch F1 every singleweek.

Jeff (06:46):
Or unfortunately, coming down to the end of their season,
too.
But uh I I can't wait for thisthing to start up again.
Uh I'm gonna uh I it's coolbecause there's different
classes, um, you know, and andthe technology of these protocol
or excuse me uh GTPs is youknow mind-blowing for how much
horsepower versus power therethe the engine size versus what
they're pushing out for power isjust and they have no ABS, bro,

(07:09):
in these cars, just no pureskill.
The GT3s, though they do havethey they got all the AIDS and
stuff, but uh I'm slowlylearning about IMSA GTPs, but uh
I'll probably be sharing abunch more as I you know learn
about it as we bring it to thechannel here.
So uh super fun car to drive iniRacing, though.
It it it it's it's out there tokill you every every time you

(07:33):
go around that corner, it'strying to kill you.

Jason (07:35):
Hell yeah, man.
Hell yeah.
What about Laman's Ultimate?
You're gonna you gonna pickthat up, Jeff?

Jeff (07:39):
Let's not get carried away.

Jason (07:41):
Oh I don't know.
I for real We're getting a badrep on the internet right now.
I'm sorry.

Jeff (07:47):
I've never even played it, and I'm just you know dumping
it.
Oh, come on.

Jason (07:50):
Okay.

Jeff (07:50):
So I don't yeah, I don't even own it.

Jason (07:51):
Well, if you get a PyMax, you get it for free.
So that's I know that's abargain.

Jeff (07:57):
What a bargain.
Uh oh, so I forgot that uhopening lap, the GT3s, huge
crash, huge crash.
Um, guy spins out, um, anotherdude tries to go around traffic
and just head-on collision, hoodgoes 20, 30 feet in the air.
Oh, yeah, and it was a dumpsterfire.
And I was like, I I thought Iwas watching real cars, not

(08:21):
iRacing, you know, it is.

Jason (08:24):
They're not playing games over there.

Jeff (08:26):
It just made me feel good that even the best in the world
have shitty days.

Jason (08:31):
Yeah, dude.
All the time.
Dude, look at the Porsche Cup.
You know, the super Porsche cupdown the F1 TV.
Every freaking race, you know,lap one, crash.
Like every almost everyfreaking race.
It's in the nature, they'rebuilt to be crashed, I guess.

Jeff (08:51):
And if you're doing that, you got the you got the dinero
to fix them.

Jason (08:54):
Yeah, I hope you do.
I'd hope you do.
But yeah, man, that's what'sup.
Getting into GTP.
GT3 might be uh how do you saya stepping stone for you started
with GT3, bro?
You started an iRacing, uh ACC.
Let's not confuse it.
Jeff was a GT3.
Yeah, McLaren.

Jeff (09:15):
I don't want nothing to do with anything.
I don't iRacing, nothing.
All it was was ACC.

Jason (09:22):
ACC, uh GT3 on spa.
That was his life for a while.

Jeff (09:26):
That was, yeah.
It's funny how you evolve withum, you know, the as you stay in
a hobby.

Jason (09:32):
You explore, right?
Yeah, that's that's what simracers do.
They they explore, they findthings.
That's how come content manageris so awesome because if you
ever wanted to do GTP and youdon't find a lobby on iRacing
because that one's a littledifficult, or the you need a
license, yeah license to drivethere, you can go on um, you

(09:53):
know, content manager and anddownload them mods right there
and just go for it, you know.

Jeff (09:59):
Oh, I never thought of that.
I've been driving them in timeattack uh on iRacing, just as
because it's cool because everytime you get faster, iRacing
gives you like the guy that'slike three places in front of
you, and you race his ghost car.
You know, so it helps me findout where other people are, you
know, with the advantage thatthey're taking.
Yeah, so it's super cool forthat to get faster and learn

(10:20):
from that way.
Yeah, and you still like it'snot racing person to person, but
like I know there was anotherdude that put drove that car,
and if he went that fast, then Ican figure it out to go that
fast.
You know, it's just fun to beable to push yourself and not
just the GTPs.

Jason (10:37):
Yeah, it's kind of like a slide, you slide with it.

Jeff (10:40):
Um I'm just hanging out for deal life is what I do.

Jason (10:43):
And there's turns, bro, that you you feel like you
should be on the brakes, but itwants more throttle, and you hit
the throttle and the damn carmakes the turn.
That is that's the the bestpart of the best thing about
them.
When you when you floored, whenyou get the tire, first of all,
get the tires warm because lapone in this car, any of them

(11:04):
treacherous, bro.

Jeff (11:05):
I'd even say two laps.

Jason (11:07):
Maybe two well, I mean it's like maybe one lap on the
Nords, right?

Jeff (11:11):
This was C bring, so it's not a it's not a short lap, but
it's not a long lap.
Yeah, um, but that first oneunder five, you know, you go
into that raw, long swingingturn down the straightaway.
You want your tires prettywarm, yeah.
Before you get on her beforeyou start hammering into that
corner, that long dragging turn.

Jason (11:28):
Um, but yeah, so I'm excited for you.
That's good.
That's good.
You know, you different classof racing, you know.
Later on, you might get intosome rally, man.
You know, you you have ashifter, you got an e-break, and
you never know.
You never know what might benext for you.
So that's what's up, man.
So what else we got?
We got some.

Jeff (11:48):
We also got some news coming out of SimLab and
Cosworth partnership.
I we see I saw this morning.
Um, and it's interesting, itjust kind of works out perfectly
that we're talking about uh,you know, indie and uh GTPs
because they are partnership tobuild an indie wheel, um, which
is very similar to the wheel, atleast that I'm seeing in a lot
of the GTP cars.

(12:09):
Um, so yeah, it's gonna be aCauseworth stamped wheel um in
partnership with SimLab.
And we're did we're just seeingmore and more of these high-end
wheels that are in relate oryou know, in partnerships with I
say the real world, in reallife racing brands.
Does that make sense?

Jason (12:29):
Yeah, for sure.
I mean it it's it's a goodthere's a lot of partnerships
happening, which we're gonnatalk about today, of course.
Um, you know, there's been somemassive news media is coming
out, uh keynote stylepresentations, uh, if you know,
if you catch my drift.
But yeah, this one is anexciting one.

(12:50):
Uh it's it's good to see that.
It's good to see that.
I wish more car manufacturersgot involved, though.
Like, you know, we've hadPorsche, we've had Ford, and
what else?
Ferrari.
We've had Ferrari and Mercedes,too.

Jeff (13:05):
I think you know, uh Fanatech has some relationships
with Porsche and Lamborghini andLamborghini, that's the other
one.

Jason (13:11):
Yeah, Lamborghini.

Jeff (13:12):
I think Moza has like a like a uh how do you say um
something that they theyenvisioned out there somewhere
too or something?

Jason (13:23):
Yeah, but the thing with like like it's based on the
wheel, but it wasn't likeofficially uh partnered, you
know, but it was ones though,right?

Jeff (13:31):
I mean, yeah, I mean look at the what was it?
Is it Fanatech has the Porschewheel that looks nothing like a
wheel on a Porsche?
It just looks like it would flythe space.
Fanatech was the first one todo it though, yeah.

Jason (13:42):
They did it with the with the BMW, they had a B and W
wheel, right?
That was that's at that time insim racing, two grand was uh
unattainable.

Jeff (13:52):
That was possible, it's what gets used in the room.
Nobody's an actual car.

Jason (13:57):
Yeah, nobody.

Jeff (13:58):
I don't know.
There's some I I see somepeople out there with it.

Jason (14:02):
Yeah, I mean, it it was it was definitely available for
purchase, is what I'm saying.
It's not like now we're we'reused to seeing things at that
price range uh be the norm now.
It's kind of weird, yeah.

Jeff (14:17):
You you know, you you took the words out of my mouth here.
Is is SimLab and Mercedes havethat wheel, the Mercedes F1
wheel, and damn, they want yourkidney as payment for that
thing.
So I can't imagine this.
Is not good like here'srewarding everybody it's not
gonna be cheap for thisCauseworth SimLab wheel.

Jason (14:36):
Like we'll see.
I hope not.
I hope because the Porschewheel from BPG Sim surprised us
all with its price, and for whatyou're getting, and pound for
pound, weight for weight.
Um, that's another wheel that Ipre-ordered and probably gonna
make a review on it.
Um, but we've had first handson it.

(14:57):
You know, Jeff held it in hishands, he had the the the real
wheel in his hands.
We all did, and it was fun,man.
That was a fun time.

Jeff (15:04):
It was super cool.
So, but yeah, we're I thinkwe're gonna see more of this
stuff, which is great foreverybody, right?
Because it's cooler stuff outthere, competition keeps prices
down.
Good for every everybody wins.

Jason (15:14):
Everybody wins.
That's the key takeaway here isthe more options we have, the
better it is.
And we keep mentioning thatbecause keep your eyes peeled.
You know, next month is BlackFriday.
I keep cannot stress thatenough.
Like, if you're waiting, justwait a little while longer.
If you want to try iRacing,Black Friday is a great time to

(15:38):
start iRacing.
But yeah, man, so I guess uh wecan cover this.
Uh I we can cover this wheelwith a little more detail in a
future episode, but um yeah,just an announcement.

Jeff (15:51):
Um, there is zero you know existing wheels um that are
already ready to go, but it justannounces that it's gonna
basically look like your indiewheel.

Jason (16:01):
There you go.
And which is good because wedon't technically have many too
many of those, right?

Jeff (16:08):
So yeah, and I think that they all use the same wheel.
Don't quote me on that, but I'mpretty sure because they're
they're technically all the samecars from what I am what I
believe.

Jason (16:17):
Kind of like NASCAR, and they're just like skinned out or
something.
They have well NASCAR has likethree, right?
They have the Camry, the Chevy,and the Ford.

Jeff (16:24):
Yeah, and these are all like Delara or Dalara saw, I
forget what they are, the themodel they use.

Jason (16:29):
IR something, yeah.
Okay, if you and if you're thePenske in the Indie, you just do
whatever you want to correct usin the comments because we're
not we're not in the ordinary.

Jeff (16:38):
We're slowly getting on to it.
We're slowly getting on to theindie stuff, which I'll get to
here uh later in in the show.

Jason (16:45):
All right, man.
So excuse me, for today's simindustry update, we have three
things for you.
And three things.
One of them is that thesimicube three is officially
announced, announced, excuse me,and you can pre-order it today.
Um, the second thing is, well,I you know, I want to give this
to Jeff.
This this was came from Jeff.

(17:06):
So, Jeff, what is the secondthing?
After the SimiCube 3 wasannounced, it was funny how that
happened, huh?

Jeff (17:12):
What kind of got announced right away after Yeah, you
know, after the announcementshappened for the the Simicube 3
and a little bit of their, hey,this is what it's gonna be, this
is what it's gonna do, this isgonna probably be hook up your
wheel.
SimLab was like, hold my beer,watch this.
And they just happened to putit.
I I think I saw it onInstagram, it might have been, I

(17:34):
don't know where I saw it from,that they're gonna have
pass-through on their directdrive that's coming out
eventually.

Jason (17:42):
Um they had them at the expo.
We talked about it.

Jeff (17:45):
Oh, did they?
You're right, the one we wentto, but they weren't, they
didn't have this.
I don't believe that there's adate for release yet, is there?

Jason (17:52):
I don't want to judge it just yet because I tried
adjusting feedback there and wedidn't have time, and it felt a
little on the weaker side.
Again, it's a very it was avery early product, and that's
not fair for me to do or or orany of us, right?

(18:12):
On the Chicane podcast, notfair.

Jeff (18:15):
And there was a million people waiting to get in behind
you, so you can really you knowspend some time to tweak it.
You just kind of got what yougot.

Jason (18:21):
And we're not gonna spend 30 minutes driving on the thing
and making everybody wait, likeyou know.
So like some people were likelike like like some folks that
we've seen out there, you know,shots fired, uh pun intended
100% intended.
So now that we have those twothings, right?
Then GSI comes in the scene andis like, oh, you guys want to

(18:44):
talk about QRs?
They've probably been in theworks because you know, Dan
Suzuki has made the his QR mod,right?
That you can print out, you canget it ordered, you can get the
soldering, but he works forGSI.
So we knew that eventuallysomething was gonna give a
prototype or some sort ofspeculation.

(19:04):
This is all speculation, by theway.
Um, but they did sharesomething, and I'll share it
here on the screen for us to seeit.

Jeff (19:13):
And everybody, I don't know if we we teed this up for
everybody, is the Simicube 3does not have pass-through or
some type of oh, we're gonna getthere.
Yeah, okay.
All right, I just want to makesure everybody knew why we were
bringing this up.

Jason (19:28):
We're gonna get there, trust me.
We're gonna get there because Ihave a breakdown in in detail
about what it is, and I guess wecan express our thoughts about
it.
But anyways, going back to thePower Link QR, and it's marketed
any wheel, any base, USBpass-through.
And here it is, right here.

(19:48):
So this is a universallymounted.
This is the GSI.
Um, this is uh the well, thepower link hub, right?
It says dedicated USB C powerworks with any base, sim hub
compatible, locking USB C hub,magnetic rig mounting, backward
compatible, future-proof, and anopen ecosystem.

Jeff (20:13):
Jason.

Jason (20:14):
That that says a million words, bro.

Jeff (20:17):
A million talk dirty to me.
I know.
I mean, that's that's speakingmy love language right there.
All those words.

Jason (20:24):
Yeah, man.

Jeff (20:25):
Other than is that whole unit the the direct drive
they're coming up with?
Or is that just the hot?

Jason (20:30):
This is just a QR.
This is just a QR for yourwheel, whatever it is.

Jeff (20:34):
I don't understand how we go from that picture to the next
one.

Jason (20:37):
Because this is how the connection is made.
This is the wire, and this ishow the connection okay.
This is how they achieve thatconnection.

Jeff (20:44):
So that goes inside the other unit.

Jason (20:46):
I'll read it to you, brother.

Jeff (20:48):
Okay.

Jason (20:48):
It says the system connects, and this is from Gomez
himself.
So shout out to Gomez.
Nice guy.
Super dude, awesome guy.
We gotta get him on the showbecause uh we we spoke to him
about coming on, so I need tofollow up on that.
The system it says here thesystem connects through a
locking USB-C hub on the baseside, creating a clean, secure,

(21:10):
and reliable connection everytime, available in both
slippering and non-slippingversions to fit any setup that
uses a 70 millimeter pitchcircle diameter, which is
99.99999% of the wheels outthere.
Um, enjoy true compatibilityacross platforms with seamless

(21:33):
connectivity and and endlesspossibilities.
Yes, it even works with thesemicon 3.
Everybody's piling on this.
GSI Power Link FreedomConnected coming in early 2026.
That's the one that hurt me.
Yeah, I don't want to hearthis, and I even asked for the
link here.
This is like a this was a thiswas an Instagram post that I was

(21:55):
asking for a link already, liketo buy it.
So, for those of you, right,before we even get into our deep
dive discussion, for those ofyou that are thinking about
pre-ordering the Simicube, andyou've read the news.
I'll get into it again, butyou've read the news, there's

(22:15):
options for you out there.
Um, or if you decided not toupgrade, there's options for
you.
You see what I'm saying?
So you're not left out in thedust.
You don't have to pick up asimlab base, you don't have to
pick up anything.
And here on the show, we'restraight no chaser.
I mean, I'm gonna tell you howI feel.
I'm gonna tell you Jeff's gonnatell you how he feels.

(22:36):
And spoiler alert, I am notpre-ordering the Simicube as of
today.
As of today, I am notpre-ordering it just yet.
I'm going to wait for thosereviews to come out, or if I get
one myself, which I'm workingon that, then I would, yes, I
would love to make a video andproduce it and compare it side

(22:57):
by side with what used to be theabsolute best wheel on the
market uh wheelbase on themarket, which was the Simicube
2.
Everybody knows this, they'rethe king.
Um, but just because a biggerking came out or was announced
doesn't make your base likeuseless, you know.
And I'll get into it, I'll getinto my thoughts um and opinions

(23:19):
on this.
But there is a there was apresentation that was made uh by
Simicube, very, very high-end,very professionally done.
It looked like I was watchingan Apple keynote.

Jeff (23:30):
I heard I heard people say that they I didn't know I was
watching an Apple, you know, uhunveil here.

Jason (23:37):
They had the music, they had the drums going off and
stuff like that.
They had the announcers.
Um and we got to see familiarfaces that we all met at the sh
at the expo, which is kind ofcool.
We kind of felt like, oh yeah,I know that I've seen them
before.
Uh and yeah, it was it was agreat presentation.
It was a great presentation.

(23:58):
I just um let me get into itbefore because my my feelings
are coming out before I eventalk about this thing.
So I'm just gonna give youguys, I'm gonna read this
through because it's a lot totalk about.
And this is some informationthat's been on the internet with

(24:18):
CEOs being interviewed andeverything, all the information
I can possibly gather, and Ishrinked it down to fit it here
on the show so that way you guyscan have a clear vision on what
this is.
So the Semicube 3 uh quickrelease is one of the new one of
the new things.

(24:39):
Um, it's highlighted for its umrigidity and lack of flex, and
it's stating that there'sbasically absolutely nothing
like it, right?
Um the next the next key pointI I found about about the base
is decision against USBpass-through and introduction of
a new technology calledLightBridge.

(25:01):
So, according to SimiCube, USBwas not designed for high-power
electronic devices, and thatSimicube did not find a way to
make a USB pass-through thatwould last 10 years reliably.
Unlike the LightBridgetechnology, professional audio
and video industries have alsomoved away from USB for

(25:23):
reliability uh reasons, and thisis true.
The same thing with ourmicrophones.
Our microphones, yes, some ofthem are USB-C, but a lot of
them have an XLR output.
Um, the need for us to usepowered USBs just to keep up
with the power demand, and stillsometimes we have issues.
So I have no doubt thatSemicube has found something

(25:48):
extraordinary, right?
Revolutionary that thatsurpasses what USB can do.
Um, the main issue is that it'skind of a proprietary system,
right?
It's kind of locked, it's kindof locked to uh Semicube, is
what I'm saying.
So let me go over and then I'llgive I'll give you guys the the

(26:11):
the verdict here.
Open ecosystem in collaborationwith wheel manufacturers.
So semicube aims for an openecosystem working with many
wheel manufacturers andproviding them with light bridge
modules.
So there will be a wheel thatyou can buy in a light bridge
version, for example.
Let's say you were buying asoul pack and you could buy it

(26:35):
with a light bridge or without,but the wheel will still be able
to connect via USB, which isgood.
So that keeps technically, itkeeps the ecosystem somewhat
open because you have thechoice.
You know what I mean?
This this misinformation that'sgoing on the internet, we need
to come down a little bit and bereal with ourselves just a

(26:56):
little bit.
These modules are alsotechnically superior and can be
connected directly to a PC, likeI just said, via USB, if a
manufacturer chooses, allowingfor flexibility outside of the
Simicube wheelbase.
So the software platform andone-click race vision.
The Shicane podcast interviewedHanu, which is the CEO of

(27:21):
Simicube, and he touched on thiswithout revealing that there
was going to be a Simicube 3,even though he said one day, and
that one day is today orsometime in November.
Um he had a vision for uh uh aplace in an ecosystem that truly

(27:41):
worked in unison with itself,right?
So, you know, Simicube isbasically developing a software,
the their new tuner, tostreamline the sim racing
experience.
This platform would allow wheelmanufacturers to integrate
their software and plugins withtuner, aiming for one-click race
experience.
They're even trying to putmouses on the steering wheel

(28:04):
that you can control with yourfinger, which is kind of cool,
right?
I think it's it's a step in theright direction for that.
Simhub support for LEDs anddisplays.
Simhub has launched SimHubsupport for pedals through their
API and plans to extend this totheir wheels and LEDs.

(28:25):
Display support is trickier dueto how displays are rendered on
the wheel, but might come inthe future.
Tuner will have customizabledashes.
So again, lovely dashboardecosystem partnered up with
Simicube, and they're going tobe developing stuff for the

(28:45):
tuner, but that doesn't lock youinto the tuner, right?
It only locks you in if you'reconnecting via that that um what
do you call it?
I just had bridge.
The Link Bridge, yes.
Is it Link Bridge or LightBridge?
The Light Bridge.
We just butchered it 100%.
Okay, but we're live.
This is us live.

(29:06):
Yeah.
Okay, so listen to mecarefully.
Potential for opencommunication protocol.
The possibility of giving wheelmanufacturers access to the
Light Bridge communicationprotocol for communic custom
electronics was you know, wasbasically revealed.
You know, they indicatedthey've been they've been

(29:27):
hinting at um giving wheelmanufacturers tools so that they
can start building new wheelsin accordance with their new
system.
That can be for many things.
It can be for audio, it couldbe for video, it can be for
mouse, it could be fordashboards, it could be for, it

(29:48):
could be for all kinds ofdifferent things that none of us
have probably seen before.
And and just to do a quickpause here, this is a change in
this is kind of like revolution.
It's kind of like when theiPhone came out and it was the
first phone to feature atouchscreen keyboard.
Nobody wanted it.
You know, there were some thatare that are worked for it, and

(30:10):
there's some that didn't likeit.
And here we are today, and it'sbecome a standard.
Now every single cell phone haskeyboards on screen.
You know, there's no morephysical keyboards like like the
Blackberry used to be.
That's how I'm comparing thisfor now.
Okay, so let me just uh go overmaybe two or three more points.

(30:32):
Uh Tuner 3 and Simicube 2compatibility.
So while Simicube 3 introducesnew features, Cimicube aims to
bring as many software benefitsas possible to Simicube 2 and 1
users.
And this was confirmed by Hanuhimself with us and said that
even their 10-year-old bases arestill compatible with most of

(30:54):
their features today.
Umicube 3, uh excuse me,wireless wheel support and QR
adaptability.
Simicube 3 still supportswireless wheels and you know
their old proprietary wheels.
An adapter for Simicube 2 QRsis not currently available, but

(31:16):
it could be made if there wasenough community demand.
And I will say this is thatwith the Simicube 3, um, I might
have some illustrations, butwith the Semicube 3, they have
um an adapter that convertstheir square looking um front

(31:38):
side of the of the wheelbaseback to a 70 millimeter, and
that's when I almost hit the buybutton.
But then I want to I still wantto give it time to see what the
there's only like threecreators that have this Micube 3
right now, and they have it ina box, they have it literally in
a box, and the software is noteven out yet for them to even

(32:01):
review or yeah, you heard aboutthat.
Okay, yeah.
Dan Suzuki's one of them.
I think uh Lawrence DeSouza,shout out to Potato Nation, he's
got one, and I think BoostedMedia, of course, uh has one as
well.

Jeff (32:15):
And I saw one dude that should connected it with
software, but he was like, Butthis software is not gonna be
what the software is, you know,to the consumer.
So he actually was driving.
I think he even drove with it,but yeah, it's it leaves a lot
more questions than answers withthis.

Jason (32:34):
So I I typed up a summary here.
I'm gonna summarize my thoughtson this, and then I want to
hear your opinions, Jeff.
Um, because we can spend theentire episode talking about
Simi Cube 3, and some peoplefeel a certain way about it.
But again, whenever newtechnology arises, you have to

(32:56):
adapt to it.
You have to really, you got togive it a chance to see what are
we doing here.
Like, is this gonna berevolutionary or is it gonna
not, or is it not gonna doanything?
So here's my here's my summary.
The the headline is their lightbridge decision.
No more USB pass-through acrossrotating uh interface because

(33:21):
long-term reliability mattersmore than spec sheet
convenience.
USB and slip rings weren'tdesigned for high power EMI
noisy 10-year duty cycles.
So they moved to an opticaldata link with an inductive
power that has no wearingcontacts because it's you know
it's kind of like magneticalmost, I believe.

(33:44):
The the plan isn't to lock theecosystem, as I just said.
Semicube supplies improveddisplays, uh display electronic
modules to wheelmakers.
Those modules can still dostraight USB to PC on other
bases, so your current wheelswill still work.
While Simicube 3 usesLightBridge and their new tuner

(34:07):
platform, a push toward aone-click race experience, wheel
marks uh mark uh makers canship their own plugins tabs
inside tuner so you can manageyour own wheels, LEDs, dash,
pedals, and force feedback inone place.
Simhub will still be a thing.
I have a blurb on simhub here.
Simhub already talks to theirAPI for active pedal, LED

(34:31):
control for wheels is on theroadmap.
Dashes are trickier becauseLightbridge renders on wheel,
but tuner will ship with qualitydash presets for now.
You know, for now, they'll tryto bring as many tuner 3
features to the Semicube 2, andthey're open to discussing

(34:53):
protocol access with engineeringfor third-party um and you
know, do it yourself canparticipate without breaking
reliability.
So on the numbers, they won'tpublish a slew rate because
modern bases are already pastthe threshold where the spec

(35:15):
limits feel according toCimicube.
According to CIMICUB, I wouldstill want to know the numbers.
I don't care what anybody says,I don't care.
That's like you going to shopfor a car and the car has 700
horses, and I asked the guy,well, how much does a new model
have?
Oh, it already has over 700.

(35:36):
You don't need over 700.
No, I want to know how much howmany horses are in there.
You know, you know what I'm youknow what I'm trying to say?

Jeff (35:42):
Yeah, fair enough.
Fair enough.
It's like more than you morethan you need.

Jason (35:45):
Go go back there, get the brochure, you know what I'm
saying?
And let's sit down, get me somecoffee, you know.

Jeff (35:51):
Because I'm gonna go find out to make sure you put every
single one of those in here.

Jason (35:55):
So, what can you expect versus uh uh uh uh you know a
Simicube 2?
A new motor control stack thatbasically the testers say it's
better.
But these people that aresaying it's better are Semicube
partners.
You see, you catch my drift?
Uh they say it feels better,they say it rattles free.

(36:18):
This thing doesn't rattle.
I don't know where they'regetting rattle from.
Uh precise QR, two-handed,two-hand pull by design to keep
tolerance, tolerance is silent.
Nothing in NRG or any otherrespectable quick release can't
do.
Wireless wheel supportcontinues.
And while there's no SC2 QRadapter at the moment, um you

(36:41):
know, if there's a demand, lightbridge features wouldn't pass
through it anyway.
You know, so you're kind ofstuck with the old tech on the
SC2, you know, they don't havelike an adapter so that way it
doesn't have the electronics inthere, you know what I'm saying?
So the quick stop torque adjustpuck needs SC3 ports, so you

(37:05):
can't use it on a Semicube 2.
And you know what I'm gonna sayabout the uh about the
emergency stop.
While it looks great and it hasa knob for you to control the
force feedback, it's nothing Ican't do with um simhub control
mapper.
I made a whole guide on myYouTube channel, and we have
Stream Decks that you canprogram shortcuts.

Jeff (37:28):
It's it's not it's like two buttons in iRacing by
itself.

Jason (37:32):
It's an option.
What Simicube is trying to dois give you everything so you
don't have to do anything, and Iunderstand that that that
standpoint.
So it's not a knock on them.
I'm just I'm giving you guysexamples on how you can achieve
90% of this, right?
Telemetry braced effects in SC3layer on top of the game's FFB

(37:57):
rather than replacing itend-to-end to avoid latency.
This sentence is what I want tosee.
This is why you buy an SC3, isfor that next level telemetry um
feedback, that next level one.
So, you know, we all know theprice.

(38:17):
I'm I I don't I don't I don'tthink we need to go over the
price or I think it's your firstkidney, your uh excuse me, one
of your kidneys.
It's up there, it's simicube,it's high quality.
They they're gonna they'regonna price it.
Uh, you know, and and andagain, honestly, to be fair to
Simicube, this is new tech.
This is new tech, and new techhas uh a large cost.

(38:38):
So I kind of get them 100%.

Jeff (38:40):
And you're buying a premium quality piece of
equipment, right?

Jason (38:44):
And they only have the pro and the sport um for now,
and the ultimate will come in2026, which would be almost
double the price.
And I don't like to try it.
I would like to try it.
So November is your cutoffdate.
Um, all the major uh what doyou call this dealers?

(39:08):
Have them.
Appy V, you can go throughpodium one, you can go through
anywhere to um mostly you knowUS-based ones, anywhere you can
pre-order.
You can pre-order to get this.
Um, so what are my thoughts?
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(39:52):
I want to see what thisfeedback is about.
Why?
Because me personally, I wouldnot rely on this new QR system
that they have because itseverely limits um all my
shortcuts that I program.
It's just it messes with theway I personally use my rig.

(40:16):
Someone may not care aboutthis.
Someone may, you know.
And also it remains to be seenhow this reacts with other
simhub plugins, right?
Because we know that they workwith LEDs, but we don't know.
We it's again, all these thingsneed to be tested.
What do you think, Jeff?
You saw that you saw the yousaw the the keynote, you saw the

(40:40):
news media, you've seen all thepeople, all the other companies
basically saying, hey, you canget a pass-through QR.
You know, there's already twoor three options that came out
like the same day.
So what do you think?

Jeff (40:54):
I think it goes back to the uh the argument or the
discussion that we have quite abit is uh, you know, there's a
line or a graph you could saywhere it says improvement in
quality and feed for speedbackand all the things that you
telemetry that you feel in thecar from the the unit, and then
on the up and down is the cost.
And eventually you start goingwhere it goes exponential more

(41:17):
cost for improvement.
And I think this you know, thethe SC3 is a perfect example of
that next tick in performanceand a lot more money.
Um, dude, the the the CBCube 2is it's freaking good, yeah.

(41:37):
You know, like it's I I waswhen I got time to really jump
in a bunch of the rigs at theexpo, I was like, man, this is
this is nice.
Yeah, it's it's probably a lotmore money for the three than
the two.
And is it is it worth thatextra bump for perceived?

(41:59):
We don't even know yet.
I I'd be very surprised if theygot a lot of pre-orders.
And the only thing that peoplewould pre-order because they're
just they're but they they trustthe brand, because the brand
does produce very high qualitystuff.
That said, you are gettingfirst of tech.
Um first batch.
I would be very skeptical ofbuying it without with that

(42:23):
first batch, you know, likemaybe after Christmas and
they've been out there for amonth to two months, you start
seeing reviews of people thatdidn't get it free, you know.
And I'm not saying that thosereviews don't carry any weight,
uh, but just let the masses beyour another data point, if you
will.
Watch all the reviews, but thenlook at holistically where the
graph is on people havingfrustrations and then people

(42:45):
that what they enjoyed from it,where the you know and things
like that.
So it's a lot of money for someperceived improvements.
You don't I do like that, youdon't have to run the freaking
cable.
Um right.
But my I got one other pointhere I want to hit is by them
giving that protocol to theother wheel manufacturers and
saying, hey, here's the protocolthat we're asking you to put

(43:08):
into your wheel so it's it'scompatible with our bases, which
acknowledge it is Sumicube isthe premier base.
You're adding cost into thosecompanies' wheels that they're
gonna make to make itcompatible.
And they may or may not bewilling to do that.
They're like, hey, our goal isto keep it under a thousand
bucks, under 500 bucks.
Pick your pick your number,right?

(43:29):
And adding that protocol andthat software, hardware,
whatever it is to make itcompatible is a cost, you know.
So there's just a lot of stuffout there that we don't know
yet, you know.
And I guess I've said a lot oftime.

Jason (43:44):
You know, Jeff, come on.
At the time of this recording,the the German Expo, the Sim
Gaming Expo in Germany.
I keep saying German Expo, nooffense.
But the Sim, the not the SimGaming Expo, the Sim Racing Expo
in Germany that's happening onthe 17th.

(44:05):
You guys, for those luckyenough, got your hands on it.
You know, and we're a podcast,we're a week at a time, but
these are our initial thoughtsas of the uh what days before um
the expo and what the and whatthe reviewers say or the content

(44:27):
creators that go out there andwhat they say.
So to me, it's kind of likethis.
What do you buy a wheelbasefor?
Do you buy it because you wantthe wheel to be wireless, or do
you buy it because you wantfidelity and you want force
feedback and you want telemetry?

(44:49):
That's what's gonna sell me onit being a successor to my
wheelbase.
And I would love to test onebecause there's no other way.
There really isn't no otherway.
You can watch a thousand, youcan watch a lot of videos, but
you're gonna have to make thatdecision.
This is a reality.

(45:09):
You're gonna have to make thatdecision whether I'm gonna I'm
gonna go with Simicube or I'mgonna go with another brand.
Now, I will say this Simicubehas been making an SC2 Pro for
the last seven years.
The last seven years, andyou've had how many companies
show up?
Simmagic, moza, acitec, uh gotSim Lab getting into the SimLab,

(45:35):
and they're still trying tocompete with seven-year-old
tech, and they can't beat it.
They can't beat it.
You you see what I'm trying tosay?
Yeah, if that you know, yeah,they have a track record of
having the best stuff, and Itrust them, I really do.

(45:56):
I am a fan of Simicube.
I gave you facts aboutSimicube, but I am a fan of it.
Do I want one?
Yes.
I want to wait and seebasically a week after today on
what what's the deal with thiswheel.

Jeff (46:12):
Yeah, and I hope tons of people buy them so that they put
their their Simicube 2s on uhup for sale.
I'm I I mean, you know, becauseI'm still kicking myself for
not freaking staying for onemore day at the expo.
There's there's not a week thatgoes by that I still don't kick
myself.

Jason (46:27):
Yeah, but it your your wheelbase is not terrible, bro.

Jeff (46:30):
No, it's not, absolutely not.

Jason (46:32):
But that deal is.
I know I I know I know theitch.
The the sim racing itch, right?

Jeff (46:37):
To have yeah, and I've dropped a shit ton of money the
last couple weeks on the rig.
So of course you did.
We can cool off.
We we both did, yeah, we did.

Jason (46:46):
We did it together, though.
That's the important thing todo.

Jeff (46:49):
And it was it was well worth it.

Jason (46:51):
So I'll tell you SimiCube three.
Um is trying to do something noone else is doing, and I
respect him for that.
I really do.
Like, you know, I regardless ofeverything that I've read to
you, this is them attempting topush the bar that much higher.

Jeff (47:11):
Yeah, they're trying to.

Jason (47:14):
Yeah, they could have just said the wheel has improved
slew rate and it has 40 newtonmeters of force.
Go buy it.

Jeff (47:22):
And people would have.

Jason (47:23):
And people would just buy it.
But they're telling you listenwe're taking something that
we've been designing in the inthe low-key and the back and the
lab, and we're trying to makeit significant.
It's so significant that wheelmanufacturers are actually
buying into their tech, which iswhy I have a I have a lot of

(47:46):
faith in it.
Because, like you said, that'sgonna drive up the cost, but
they seem to think that it'sworth it.
Because they don't have to,they don't have to agree to
anything.
Um, and yeah, the price of theQRs, $200.

Jeff (48:05):
Yeah, that's another thing, is you have that, and
then what's the I could havesworn I saw a box that you that
you had to buy if you didn'thave something else.

Jason (48:13):
Oh, the the the semi-cube link.

Jeff (48:15):
Yeah, which is another hundred 150 bucks.

Jason (48:18):
The only reason why I'm not concerned about it is
because it came with my activepedal.
I know that's very, veryselfish.

Jeff (48:26):
It's a data point, right?
Because you're talking about300 bucks, 400 bucks.

Jason (48:32):
Yeah, if you want an extension, they'll sell you both
extensions.
I don't understand why theysell, why can't you just sell me
one extension?
That's another 250 bucks if youwant to use their extension for
yeah, so yes, definitely it hasa high cost, has a high penny,

(48:53):
but we must we must give it thebenefit of the doubt.
We have to give it the benefit,benefit of the doubt.

Jeff (49:01):
They've earned that, they're not gonna they've earned
that.
Knowing them, bro, honestly,bro.

Jason (49:07):
Knowing them, they're not gonna just say that something
is better and then slap a higherprice tag on top of it.
I would be shocked if that iswhat they did.

Jeff (49:18):
But oh, I'm with you on that one.
After talking to them inperson, yeah, they're not gonna
be able to do that.
After talking to them in personand rebrand something, yeah.

Jason (49:26):
No, uh, I don't see that in them.
I don't, I don't, I reallydon't because technically, let's
you know, let's just be honestwith ourselves.
If Simicube wanted to make moremoney, they wouldn't even
develop anything.
Simicube 2 is still sellinglike like it's no one's
business, still selling, stillselling, still selling.
Now they're gonna they're gonnareach a limit, right?

(49:49):
Where sales might go down alittle bit because you already
got your wheelbase, everythingis good to go, you know.
So how do they how do theyinnovate?
They waited seven years torelease a new version.
If you told me that seven yearsago I bought a simicube too and
I was gonna get seven years outof updates and usage, I am a

(50:13):
happy camper, you know.
Compare it to another base thatdropped, you know.
I'm gonna use SimMagic as anexample.
They dropped their base, andthen you literally a year and a
half later, they have animproved version, an Evo with an
LED on it, which I still don'tunderstand what the LED is for,
but it's there.
Um just a little small knock,you know, on them.

(50:35):
But but that's my topic, man.
Um, please leave commentsbelow.
I love to hear what you guysthink, you know.
Even uh, you know, I'm prettysure there's somebody gonna say,
Oh, I'll never spend that kindof money on a wheelbase, but
then there might be a day thatyou might, you know, because

(50:55):
everybody, the longer you stayin this hobby, bro, 90% of us,
we outgrow things prettyquickly, you know.
And if we know something is outthere that's a little better,
you know, I just told Jeff yourbase is perfectly fine, but then
you're like, nah, man, butthat's kind of cool that you
know, you you you kind of getwhat I'm saying, Jeff.

Jeff (51:16):
Yeah, I mean, especially when you get to try them out,
and that's the benefit of goingto these things, is like, yes,
you know, it was just wow.
I was like, wow, you can feel alot of detail.

Jason (51:24):
All right, so that's my topic for today.
Um, like I said, guys, drop alike, leave a comment, let me
know how you feel.
Let us know how you feel.
Send us an email if you don'twant it to be public.
Send us an email at theshakanepodcast at gmail.com.
Let us know your roles withthis uh release and this
announcement.

(51:44):
And if you're excited for one,I I'm excited for new
technology.
That's what the Shikane Podcastloves to hear is news and
things coming out and all thoseyou know experiences and new
experiences that keep gettingbetter and better.
So I have high hopes for thisone.
Like I said, I will not bepre-ordering just yet, just to

(52:04):
be on the safe side.
But next week, I might have apre-order receipt.
Who knows?
You know, I'll be able to doit.
Yeah, I know, right?
Like Jeff invites me over tohis house to try the butt, the
belt tensioner, and he tells me,son, you know, we mentioned
what it was, the device thathe's connecting the belts to.

(52:26):
I said, you know what, thatjust became a very personal
thing.
I'm gonna take your word for itand I'm gonna try it myself.
And I went and bought it.
And but honestly, we tried itat the expo.
We tried it, we loved it, weexperienced it on many different
different platforms.
The belt tensioner is what I'mtalking about.
And that's why it's importantuh for you to go to these

(52:48):
things, right?
So, for those that can go toGermany, if you went to Germany
and you follow us, drop acomment.
Let me know how it felt.
Let me know how the the newbasis felt because we're not
gonna be able to make it outthere this year.

Jeff (53:01):
This year.
I appreciate you adding it thisyear.

Jason (53:03):
This year.
So for now, I mean, track ofthe week is still part of this
show.
For those that are just waitingfor a new track of the week,
until the news doesn't calmdown.

Jeff (53:16):
Um I know we just had some killer, you know, content when
it comes to topics here thatjust you can't cut it short
because it it's it's it'srighteous to talk about it for
this long.

Jason (53:28):
And I don't want to cram everything into one episode.
I really don't.
I want to give you guys I'llkeep you guys fed with content,
right?
That's I that's just my visionfor I guess.
I don't know.
I looked up at the time, itit's way past the time that I
thought it was.

Jeff (53:47):
So I know, and we have like a backlog of tracks.
We have tracks on tracks ontracks to to get to here.
So we will get to them, wepromise.
I uh I know there's a bunch ofcomments for them that the you
know the the listeners reallyappreciated.
So we will get to them.

Jason (54:01):
But we do got to get to your questions, as we always say
on the show, and we'll startwith um one that we received uh
quite a while back.
I'll take the first one, Jeff.
Go for it.
It is titled Triple by Harry M.
So Harry M Harry.
I am, I apologize deeply forthe time it took to respond, but

(54:24):
here we go.
It says, hello, Jason, Eric,and Jeff.
Good meeting you at the SimRacing Expo with triple screens,
with triple screens.
Can you touch upon these twoquestions?
Okay.
Being at the expo, you'll seevarious setups.
What's the rule of thumb ofsetting the angle of the

(54:48):
physical monitors?
Jeff, what do you think therule of thumb is?
Because I have a I have atheory on this.

Jeff (54:56):
Well, it's what works for yeah.
I totally had Jason to help meout, but mine would be start
start at where you think you'dlike it, get in there, Google.
There's calculate, there's acouple calculators out there
that you can do, you know,Google your angles, your
distance that you're sittingaway from, the size of your
monitors, bezels, etc.
Hit calculate, and it'll tellyou what is probably the best

(55:19):
place.
And I would say that's yourstarting point.
That is a starting point.
What's for you like it?
And if somebody else says givesyou a hard time about your FOV
being off, tell them to screw.
It doesn't matter, it's nottheir setup, whatever you like.
That's my thoughts.
But I'll pass it to you as theprofessional with that comes to
this stuff.

Jason (55:36):
Well, I feel the same way.
And you know what I do is Itake the screens and you use a
uh one of those rulers thatmeasures angle, angle, excuse
me.
And I usually go for 60, whichis the the gold standard, right?
60 on each side.
But that doesn't always work ina space, depending on what kind

(55:58):
of space and the size.
So I look at them, I I basethem on a 60 angle and I measure
screen size.
Do not go by the screen size,go by the body size.
So if you go for the monitor,you go on the website, it should
tell you what the total size iswith all the plastic and

(56:21):
everything.
And that's how you do it.
And then you go for a 60, andthen you start at 60, and then
you align the monitor to beflush, depending on if it's a
flat screen or a curved screen.
That's this that's the simplestanswer I can give you on this.
And Harry, good luck.

Jeff (56:42):
Whenever you get triples, put at least two hours to the
side of when you're gonna sitthere, put the first one on,
you're gonna put one side on,then the other, and you're like,
oh no, and you're gonna go backthere and make a half a million
micro adjustments, and it'sgonna be the most pain in the
ass thing ever.
But once you get it, it'sperfect, and then you don't ever

(57:04):
let anybody even look at it toscrew it up, to bump it or
anything.
Don't even look at them.

Jason (57:08):
Super tight dude, don't ever get them.
I mean, I was crazy, but I tooka freaking, what is it?
Uh a driver, and I drove thesescrews in so that they never
ever move.
Unless I need a driver to getthese off.
There's no way I'm taking theseoff by hand.
But that's just me.

(57:29):
That's just me.
I'm crazy like that because Igot tired of accidentally
bumping the screen.
Now I lost the entire angle.
The plastic thing that you thethe bezel eliminator goes
flying, it disconnects.
It will get you upset, bro.
Thinking about it, it will getyou upset.
You're like, I just want to sitdown and race, and I can't.
I'm sitting here wrenchingaway.

Jeff (57:52):
So stupid ass knock the screen with my knee or
something.
Yeah, like clumsy ass.
Harry, once you get it all upand run, send us a picture.
We'd love to see it when it'sdone.

Jason (58:00):
Hell yeah.
And then the second thing heasked, do you also set the angle
in game so that the image isnot distorted?
On the other absolutely.
And distorted images happenwhen you use in different
monitors, when you use differentmonitors.
Make sure you get the samemonitor.
If you have 32-inch monitors,for example, is what the gold
standard is, what people get.

(58:22):
If you have an NVIDIA card,NVIDIA surround.
It is the biggest pain in theass in existence.
But when it works, it solvesall of these things for you.
Um, but make sure they'rephysically right before you
touch things in game, right?
Because you don't want to havean adjustment on top of another

(58:43):
adjustment, then you don't knowwhere to start.
I'd say get the middle monitorcentered to your eye line,
right?
So if your eye line is here,this is the middle of the screen
and the distance.
From there, you start bringingin the other monitor.
You do one at a time, as Jeffsaid.
So, yeah.

(59:04):
Okay, so that that covers thisquestion from Harry M.
I'll let you take the next one,Jeff.

Jeff (59:10):
Sure.
All right, so this is fromHassan, I believe is how you
pronounce it.
Hello, gents.
Want to take a moment tointroduce myself.
My name is Hassan, and I am anavid listener of the Shikane
podcast.
Well, thank you very much foryour time and listening and
support to the podcast.
It's been a Monday morning,must-listen for me.
I appreciate it.
And I really appreciate the mixof insight, humor, and
authenticity you bring to eachepisode.

(59:32):
It's clear how much passion andknowledge you have for racing
and sim culture.
Thank you, man.
We are definitely prideful andreally enjoy uh sim racing.
So I'm glad we're to share itwith you guys.
So he continues to say, I'm anavid sim racer, although I admit
my skill level is solidly belowaverage for now.
For now, buddy, but I'mdetermined to improve and I'm
currently cons uh considering inuh investing in a motion

(59:54):
platform.
And I recall Jason mentioningthat he's exploring one as well.
I'd love to hear.
Which system, which motionsystem you're leaning towards
and what drives your decision.
Also curious, what's yourthoughts on e-racing labs?
Their setup looks intra uhintriguing, and I'd love to know
how they compare in terms ofrealism and reliability.
Keep up the incredible work.

(01:00:15):
The podcast continues to be thehighlight of my week.
Best regards.
Assign.
Okay.
Jason, I'll let you go becauseyou are far more knowledgeable
on motion than I.
So I'll pass this to you,buddy.

Jason (01:00:28):
Um so there's a lot of new, there's a lot of motion
system platforms out there thatare using the same type of
actuator and just putting theirbrands on it.
But then for me personally,right now, I'm leaning towards a
cubic system.

(01:00:49):
Why am I leaning towards acubic system?
Because I have a belttensioner, and the belt
tensioner was built to workseamlessly with one of their
platforms.
Doesn't have to be, it doesn'thave to be their most expensive
one, but they were engineered towork together.
You know what I'm saying?

(01:01:11):
Um it's kind of like buying auh a gas and a brake pedal.
You wouldn't buy, well, in mycase, I have an active pedal,
but if you were buying pedals,you want the whole set from the
same brand, from the sameeverything, same software.
It works all together, youknow, kind of like that concept.
Um, cubic motions have beendoing it for a while.

(01:01:32):
They've actually worked onmilitary equipment um in the
past.
And if these guys know how tobuild an actuator, you know,
they have the experience.
They also, which you know,which is a great segue,
honestly, uh, into this onething I wanted to share.

Jeff (01:01:53):
We got to test uh uh a number of their motion platforms
too.
I think we got to try maybe twoor three of them when we were
at the expo.

Jason (01:02:00):
Yeah, we did.
Um I'm gonna go over to thecubic website because the cubic
website actually just droppedsomething that might help you
out.
Um, it and it doesn't have tobe a cubic system, but that's my
preference.

Jeff (01:02:19):
Um, you're getting that.
Um I got it here.
You know, as I just from fromsomebody else that considers
themselves average at best, Ilike I said, I might not be the
fastest on the track, but damn,there's not many people that
have more have as much fun as Ido when I'm in my rig.
So you don't have to be fast tohave you know to be out there
to have fun.
That's really why we boughtthis stuff was to have fun.

(01:02:40):
So make sure you're not tyingyour enjoyment to what you place
in races or how fast you are.
So very true.
Yeah, just want to make sure,and not saying you are or
aren't, but just want to makesure that you know, and this
kind of goes to everybody, isjust to make sure you're doing
this stuff for the rightreasons.
Uh you should be having fun,not you know, get out of it
frustrated with yourself.
So, all right, Jason, off toyou.

Jason (01:02:59):
So, here on the screen here, I have on display um a
buyer's guide, and also ourfriend the Sim Racing Den also
released a video, which I highlyrecommend you watch.
But these guys break down theterminology, the basics, how do
they work?
Why does it matter?

(01:03:20):
Uh, what's a 2DOF?
What does DOF even mean?
What does a 3D OF, four, five,six, you know, the myths, the
common myths, introduction?
You have this guide is free andexplains it in detail.
But let's say you're not areader, let's say you like to

(01:03:40):
listen to a podcast such as theShicane Podcast.
Well, um, these guys havethought of everything, and
they've, if you go over to theirwebsite, which I will link, uh
this is the cubic systemwebsite.
All you got to do is click ondownload guide, and they will

(01:04:03):
not only send you this same PDFthat I just displayed, they will
also send you an MP3 file whereit's narrated in English and
they'll read it to you.
I believe it is in English, Ibelieve, because uh this is a
Polish company from Poland, um,but it should be in English, and
I don't know why my internet istaking so long to open this
link.

(01:04:23):
Um, but yeah, we're having someinternet problems right now.
But anywho, if you click ondownload guide, that will take
you to um this download pagewhere you can sign up with your
first and last name or justfirst name and put your email
and they will email you theguide.
Um, let me know if you needhelp with this.

(01:04:44):
Right now, for some reason,things are not loading.
So I'm gonna leave it there.
But that will be myrecommendation on how to make an
educated decision because youalso got to think about your
budget.
You gotta think about um yourbudget, your space.

(01:05:05):
We just covered monitors,right?
And that this is a big part ofit is space being uh one of the
biggest challenges, and that'show come when I'm still building
this rig, it is it was uhupgraded.
Uh, how do you say this?
Slowly to get it slowly readyfor motion, but right now it is

(01:05:28):
100% ready for motion, and Ican't wait.
So that'd be my recommendation,Jeff.
Um is a cubic system.

Jeff (01:05:37):
Cool, yeah, good answer.

Jason (01:05:39):
Just because I know I know many creators and friends
that have them and they're superhappy with them, and they've
been using them for years.
That's why, you know, and thecompany too, it's a legitimate
company.
And Jeff can tell you about thebuild quality of their bell
tensioner, and if that's entrylevel, then show me what's not

(01:06:00):
entry level, if you know what Imean.

Jeff (01:06:02):
Yeah, I mean, to pile on to the cubic thing is you know,
because the bell tensioners aremanaged through their software
that handles also their fullmotion rigs.
Um they thought abouteverything.
What you know, even it's just avery thought-out, well-laid
out, you know, software tomanage just the bell tension.
So if it's that level ofgranularity, uh, it probably

(01:06:25):
would be just as good, probablyif not better, um, with a
hundred percent.

Jason (01:06:30):
100%.
And we got one more from ourvery own, Mr.
Roy Wheeler, the GOAT, uh OG,the OG cable management, which
is a topic that's just dreadful.
Why are why are you doing thisto us, Roy?
What are you doing, bro?

Jeff (01:06:47):
Makes my skin crawl.
I'm just glad you can't see.
And let me go like this sonobody can see the cable
management dumpster fire that'sback there.
But go ahead.
Sorry.
Sorry, man.
It's embarrassing sometimes.

Jason (01:06:57):
You're all good, bro.
So it says, I need some tipsand tricks.
With all the peripherals usedon a rig, how in the hell do you
keep all the cables and powerbricks organized?
I have power bricks for baseshakers, wheelbases, pedals,
monitors, ambient lighting, andwho knows what else.

(01:07:18):
Then you add all the cabling.
I have cables coming out of myass and ears.
I love this, by the way.

Uh, so my question is (01:07:26):
what kind of accessories do you use
to hide manage all this crap?
I know a lot of it is justtaking the time to organize
everything and a lot of advil toease the pain in your back and
knees.
Keep up the great videos, RoyWheeler.

(01:07:46):
So, Roy, I'll start here, I'lllet Jeff finish.
Um, I want to start because Ijust did this.
And the the concept of cablemanagement is that you have to
put all the cables behind thePC.
That is the the number onething that goes through your
mind when you build, when I atleast for me, when I started

(01:08:08):
building mine.
But I did it in reversefashion.
I kept all the cablingunderneath the rig side.
Because what do you have insidethe rig frame?
Nothing but profile, and youcan start mounting things to the
profile.
You can 3D print um mounts foryour power supplies, or you can

(01:08:29):
buy them on Etsy.
They have they're not too bad,right?
I I would still tell you to buya printer for the amount of
money that you guys are going tospend on 3D stuff.
You can get yourself like abasic uh bamboo mini, like a
mini, a small one, just to startprinting out parts, or just an
A1.

(01:08:50):
I would pony up and get the A1.
Honestly, so you can get thefull bed, the full bed size for
PLA plastics that are not beingstressed at all.
You know, they're not reallybeing stressed down there.
Um that's what I did.
I mounted all my power supplieson the walls in the interior
and ran the cables back.
And I have two, I have a16-port, 90 watt um USB hub and

(01:09:18):
another 10-port back there,which is 60 watt, I believe.
One is 90, one is 60.
And I just ran the cables, theum, some long powered cables you
can find on Amazon.
Just coiled them up.
I bought a little snake, andyou snake them, and all you see
that's coming from in front ofthe rig is just that one snake

(01:09:39):
going up to the PC.
That's it.
Everything else behind here,the sound bar, the lights up
here, the monitor, uh, mystreaming setup can stay back
there because there's no realreason to run the cables all the
way back down and about, right?
You want to run the cables thatare like right in front of you,

(01:10:00):
like your wheelbase, yourshifters, your butt kickers, um,
or whatever else.
Now belt tensioners, whatever.
My belt tensioner is plugged inright down here.
I didn't even uncoil the cable,still coiled.
They give you this long asscable, and it I just plugged it
in right there.
Um, you can go the cheap routewith zip ties, which I did

(01:10:25):
because zip ties are easilyreplaceable.
Um, or you can buy the fancyspancy ones that screw into the
rig and you can run the wires inthat way.
And those are good too.
There's a place and time forthose as well.
Um, so yeah, I kind of have amixture of both.
What about you, Jeff?

Jeff (01:10:45):
All right.
I have been putting off cablemanagement for a while, knowing
that I'm moving the rig in liketwo months.
So I am a dumpster fire rightnow.
But what I am going to do, um,because I did the 3D printed
cable management little clipsthat you turn in 90 degrees, put
the white, put the cables in,or the wires in, put in 90

(01:11:07):
degrees, turn it, and it locksinto the the the rig.
They're nice.
Until you need to either add ortake out a wire, a cable, and
then it's just a pain in the assto like take it out.
You try to take one out, sevencome out, you put them back in.
So, what I'm gonna do next timeis I'm going to do velcro ties,
you know, the velcro stripsthat go onto themselves.

(01:11:27):
So I think that would be easierto use.

Jason (01:11:29):
Cost effective too.

Jeff (01:11:30):
Reusable.
Yeah, it'll be black, it'llmatch the rig, you'll hide them,
and it'll be easier to managepulling onesie, twosie wires out
or adding them.
I can just, you know, slide itin and then pull it tight.
That's my plan, is what to dothose.
Um I'm gonna probably try to doa lot better putting the power
supplies onto the rig on theinside.

(01:11:50):
Um, I think that's kind ofcomes with it's hard to do cable
management as you're slowlybuilding your rig out to be you
know what it's starting to do.

Jason (01:11:57):
But you don't think you're gonna have that much
stuff.

Jeff (01:11:59):
You don't have the forethought, right?
And then my problem is when Iget something, I don't want to
run cable management.
I know, I get a try use it.
And then like three or fourthings later, I guess have no
idea.

Jason (01:12:11):
Jeff's smart, bro.

Jeff (01:12:12):
Rat's nest by luck, bro.
So this guy it is it it is whatit is.

Jason (01:12:19):
But I'm surprised that he actually straps in like these
two might one use one strap.
Ah, good enough.
Oh, good enough.

Jeff (01:12:27):
Yeah, so um, yeah, that's what I plan to do when I have to
re-rebuild the rig fromscratch, will be just buy a
couple hundred of the uh the thevelcro straps, use those.

Jason (01:12:38):
The clips are the clips have their space too.

Jeff (01:12:40):
They do, they absolutely have their place.
Um one of our one of ourlisteners uh sent that as a tip
for an email, or I think it wasan email uh a while ago.
This way back, but uh goodluck, buddy.
Let us know how it goes, takesome pictures.
Um, and I am 100% positive thatthe people that post their rigs
and the wiring is like youcan't see any wires.
It's either they just move therig or they're just took that

(01:13:04):
picture and that's the picturethey post, send it to everybody,
and that's doesn't look likethat all the time.

Jason (01:13:08):
I mean, I'm gonna say here, if your rig is as clean as
that, because it it kind ofgets it gets out of hand, you
know, from time to time.
And if that's not happening toyou, then you're not racing,
bro.
You're just building rigs, youknow.
You're you're building turnkey,turnkey setups, right?
Turnkey setups, that's easybecause it everything is laid

(01:13:32):
out, they know exactly how far.
We are building these things ata time.
And when you want to addsomething, it'll take you a good
hour to figure out where thehell am I gonna put this?
How am I gonna wire it?

Jeff (01:13:45):
And that's the thing I'm looking forward to, is because I
like you have two USB hubs.
I think I have 12 on each side.
Um yeah, but like when I wasbuilding it, I only had one, and
now that I have two, it's like,oh, I should take this one
because it's on this side, moveit from over here, put it in
there.
You know, that was a pain inthe ass.
So that'll be better thoughtout when I re rebuild the rig

(01:14:07):
here.
Um, yeah, it's a thing, Roy.
It's a thing, and we don't Idon't have a good solution for
you other than take it allapart, all apart, and then put
it back together.

Jason (01:14:18):
And take your time.
Because the worst thing you cando is do one side nice and the
other side look like not sonice.
Yeah, how do I know that?
Because of yours truly, righthere.
And then you go back and you'relike, shit, I I this one side
is really nice and the otherside is not.

(01:14:39):
Just make a system where it'scomfortable for you to work on.
Don't get them so tight thatyou can't access things because
sometimes USBs freeze.
How do you find them?
Oh, a big tip.
That's a here you go.

Jeff (01:14:55):
Great.

Jason (01:14:56):
Get yourself a tape label and start labeling cables one
by one.
Just get the cheapest one youcan find, a tape label, one of
those label makers, uh, brother,I think it's called.
One tape should do it, andyou're gonna have unlimited of
those.
Um, and start labeling wiresbecause when you want to find a

(01:15:18):
wire, and they all look they alllook the same.

Jeff (01:15:23):
And you're like trying to move it, and you're like
separate.

Jason (01:15:26):
Good luck tracing this wire through the contraption,
through the loops and ups anddowns.
Hell no, bro.
Label that right at the end,right before you plug it in.
That way you know, okay, that'sthe stream deck.
Okay, that's the belt, that'sthe belt, that's the semi-cube,
those are the pedals, these arethe shifters.
Okay, good.
I'm having a problem with this.
Unplug Yank, see what's goingon.

(01:15:48):
Uh yeah, yeah.
And also, I would highlyrecommend to label out your
extensions because uh USB hubextensions, because some
extensions are calling for a 3.0slot, uh 3.0 USB, and some of
them are only calling for a 2.0.
And yes, you tech person outthere is gonna say, yeah, you

(01:16:12):
can plug a 2.0 and 3.0, butsometimes vocal screens they get
angry, they get upset, theydon't like you putting
themselves into something thathas more data.
I don't understand why, butthat's just how it goes.
It's it I've had way too manycrashes in my life on PCs.
Respect the rules, those arethe rules.

(01:16:32):
You know, until SimeCube comesout with this light bridge thing
that might solve all our issuesand it might adapt to other
devices.
We are stuck with USB protocoland it's not reliable.
It isn't reliable, it is notreliable.
That's just a fact.
So I think that's about it,man.
Yeah, dude.

(01:16:53):
I think that's about it.
We had quite an episode today.
Thank you, Jeff.
Go on and on and on.
We had more.
Good luck, Roy.
We had more.
Roy, God bless you.
You know, but um Godspeed, Roy.
Godspeed.

Jeff (01:17:07):
We're all praying for you.

Jason (01:17:08):
Yes, Godspeed.
So, guys, if you have anyquestions, anything we covered
today, which was a lot, it's ahandful, uh, just email the
show, chicanepodcast atgmail.com.
Like, subscribe, like again,share it to uh, I don't know, go
on incognito and like that shitagain.
No, I'm just kidding.
Uh, Jeff, thank you so much.

(01:17:31):
And uh all you viewers andlisteners out there, have a
great start of your week.
Thank you.

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