250119 Chris and U.S. Captain (retired) James L. McCormick

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Well, good evening, everybody.

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It's Chris here from the whistle stop cafe in mirror Alberta.
Have any of you been watching the news lately, or social media, anything like that?
Chats and coffee shops?
You have?
Okay, so you've been hearing the same things I've been hearing, I would imagine.

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Things are getting really, really interesting across the globe.
And for me, in particular, things are getting really, really interesting for Alberta, for
Canada and for the United States.
So tomorrow marks a very important.
Yeah, thanks, Larry.
Today marks a very, tomorrow marks a very important day.

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Tomorrow President-elect Donald Trump will be inaugurated as President of the United
States of America for the second time after a brief hiatus due to some funny vote counting.
Am I allowed to say that?
Am I getting sued for $2 billion now?
Does anyone have Alex Jones's number?

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I think I need to talk to him because I might have made a bit of a boo boo there.
Anyway, so Trump is going to be inaugurated tomorrow.
Social media has been abuzz with Trump's famous trolling for weeks, particularly towards Canada
and Justin Trudeau.
Our government here in Canada is an absolute train wreck, and not in a good way, like not

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my train wreck burger, but an absolute train wreck.
It's hard not to watch it, and I'm sure that people all over the world are watching it
with bated breath and being very entertained.
Our government is in disarray.
Our prime minister has pro-reg Parliament, which means that we don't have parliamentary
sittings right now.

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The government, the liberal government, is still allowed to issue contracts, appoint
senators, judges, all those things with no parliamentary oversight.
And at the same time, we have an incoming United States president who is sick and tired
of the conditions of our border, and he wants it fixed, and he's going to make it happen.

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He's threatened Canada with 25% tariffs on all of our exports to the United States.
And our government responded strangely, rather than saying, hey, you know what?
What you're asking for isn't really unreasonable.
We should have secure borders, any country, any sovereign nation, should have secure borders.

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Instead of that, our prime minister decides he's going to get all the premiers together,
and they're going to make this plan, and they're going to send Team Canada into this battle
with Donald Trump and the United States of America, and they're going to strong arm the
United States by doing things like shutting off energy exports to the United States.

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So when I heard that, I thought, geez, shutting off energy exports to the United States, Alberta
supplies of all the oil and gas exported in Canada, about 80, 85% of that comes from us,
goes to the United States.
And of our exports, something in the neighborhood of 95% goes to the United States.

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And we're talking like hundreds of thousands of jobs depend on those exports.
So I'm thinking the prime minister and all these other premiers are literally prepared
to use Alberta and Albertans as a sacrificial lamb.
No, worse than that, like a suicide bomber to try and strong arm the United States into

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not putting tariffs on our exports.
And they're doing this instead of securing our border like we should be.
Well, Alberta is a bit of a black sheep in this confederation we call Canada.
And our premier is very passionate about our province.
So the first thing she did is she said, oh, okay, well, the United States wants our border
secured.

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That's not really my jurisdiction, but we can help the Fed secure the border by dispatching
Alberta sheriffs.
We're going to create this border patrol.
We'll help out do our part for Team Canada, right?
That's what she did.
Well, she's getting absolutely annihilated in the media right now, or at least they're
trying to, trying to say that she's not a team player and she needs to sign on with
all these premiers and walk this path of destruction and throw Alberta under the bus while doing

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it.
Well, she's having none of it.
Right now she's in Washington, DC, schmoozing with governors and CEOs of big oil companies.
She's making a case for Alberta and Alberta oil and at the same time for Canada.
She's doing an absolutely fantastic job.
She's doing the job that our federal government should be doing, but isn't.

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I saw an interview that Ezra Levant with Rebel News did with her this evening and he asked
her, have you seen any Canadian representatives from the federal government down here trying
to build relationships with any of these people in the incoming administration?
And she hasn't seen any of them, which blows my mind.
But that's okay because Alberta is a little bit different.

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We're very independent and with or without those other bonehead premiers and our dysfunctional
federal government, we're going to continue to have a great relationship with the United
States.
That is why I took this opportunity to invite retired Captain James McCormick to have a
chat with me about what's going on with the United States and Canada with our relationship

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right now.
What the feeling is in the United States with incoming president elect Donald Trump, inaugurated
tomorrow and those types of things.
He sent me his bio and his resume a few hours ago and I started going through it.
It's quite the story.
So what I did is I actually posted his Twitter handle in the comments.

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So when you get a little bit of time, pop over to his Twitter, maybe give him a follow,
check out some of this stuff that he's doing.
A lot of the stuff is right close to my heart.
He's very passionate about bringing back American oil and gas jobs, bringing back decency to
the country, getting things back on track.
He's a combat veteran served in Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, I believe one

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and two or two and three wounded in battle and ended up retiring because he was wounded.
So he's been there, done that, and he's continuing his service by doing other things in the private
sector, specifically helping veterans with their issues.
So I'm going to actually bring him on and let him talk a little bit about that.

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And then we're going to get into what the heck is going on with the United States and
Canada and what does the next few months and few years look like for our countries.
Oh, welcome.
Finally, have an opportunity to bring you on the show.
Yeah, awesome.
Awesome.
Definitely an honor to be on here and I love seeing all of the comments.

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You got quite the following there, Chris.
So I'm looking forward to it.
Obviously I've become very connected to Alberta just simply because of the fact that you are
all so freedom minded and freedom loving.
You know, I mean, it's just it's amazing.
You know, we're watching, in my opinion, I'm watching probably something very similar to

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what we saw, what we would have saw in the beginning of the United States.
You know, everything starts with thought and then the thought grows into an idea and the
idea grows into action.
And when you when you start taking action, that's whenever you start to see results.
Now the one thing I've noticed about Albertans in particular is that we are very similar

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in our belief structure, our system.
You know, we don't like being messed with.
We don't you know, we don't want people taking away our freedoms.
We simply want to live in peace and to be able to provide for our families and not have
to be taxed in order to support.
You know, we talked a little bit before the show, Chris, and we talk about the, you know,

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sometimes centralized governments.
You know, they get to a point to where they seek and they just lust this power.
Now we've had that problem in the United States.
You've seen what's been going on the last few weeks of the Biden administration, you
know, pardoning his son, pardoning, you know, criminals, letting people out of, you know,

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terrorists, known terrorists, you know, out of Guantanamo Bay.
And these are hardened criminals here.
These are terrorists.
We're not talking about, you know, people that got caught up in, you know, stealing
candy out of the candy store.
So I think that what we have saw is, we saw, we've seen, is we've seen this shift to, you

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know, there's a lot of people that really want to become this, this like more of a socialist
type nation or more of even a communist type nation.
You know, the step to communism starts with socialism.
And then from socialism, it goes into communism and, you know, totalitarianism and fascism.

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I mean, all of this stuff comes around one thing and that's, that's a lust for power.
And so in my service, in my service in the army, I traveled all around the world and
I've been in some of these countries that experienced this, these dictatorships, you
know, Iraq, you know, being there twice in the first Gulf War and the second Gulf War,

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having sons that served as well and coming from a long lineage of family history.
So I would just tell you that if you go and you look on ancestry, you'll see that, you
know, I have direct lineage to Charles Washington, which is the brother of George Washington.

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So my grandfather on my mother's side, his mother was actually a Washington, Bill of
Washington.
So our family heritage stretches way out, but let's just start from, you know, my grandfather
was in World War II.
You know, he was on a bomber and was wounded over Europe.
You know, his brother was killed in the Korean War.

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So we, you know, became a gold star family and while I was not born or didn't know my
uncle, I will tell you that I watched my great grandmother who lived until 1975.
She grieved his death until the day she died.
So you know, it's amazing to me to see that my father served in Vietnam, wounded, came

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back, made Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom, two sons who served during the war on terror,
you know, Syria and Afghanistan.
And so seeing all this and watching all this, there's been this tremendous amount of blood
letting that's came from our family in particular, and it just seems like it's a never ending

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thing.
You know, now I'm looking at grandkids, you know, that are, you know, going to eventually
grow up and some of them undoubtedly.
I've got 13 of them, so some of them are going to, you know, serve in the military as well.
So why do I say this?
I say this because when I look at the Albertans and I look at what you guys are going through,

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you know, I see that same passion for freedom, that same love for freedom.
I mean, I'm reading the comments here on the side here, you know.
You know, I see, you know, I see the comments, thank you all for thanking me for my service
and all of that is just absolutely wonderful.

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But I see a comment, you know, about bureaucracy, our bureaucracy being just as bad as the rest
of Canada.
Well, in some cases, that's true.
The difference is, is that we have a better means of to address this.
You know, we have a better means to take it to the streets, take it to the courts and
take it mainly to the ballot box and get rid of these poor leaders, which we did.

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And it was a heck of a struggle.
You know, the last election was so bad.
Well, the numbers are interesting, though.
Yeah, very interesting.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know what?
I've never met anybody that said they voted for Joe Biden.
I'm going to just tell you.

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I haven't.
I've met a lot of people, you know, who said they didn't vote.
I've seen that as well.
So, so as we look at this struggle, we see a lot of similarities.
You know, I mean, you guys want peace, you want you want prosperity, and you really just

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want to be left the hell alone.
You know, I mean, to do your thing and live your life.
I mean, realistically, the danger with open borders, we can go into some of that as well.
The danger with open borders causes you to lose your identity as a country.
OK, now you just if I mean, wait, look, just look over at what's going over going on in

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in Great Britain, in the UK, you know, and in Europe, all over Europe, you know, all
of this flood of all these refugees.
And I know 52% non natural citizens right now as of last October.
And I'll watch this.
And I'll watch the disgusting things that are done to the women over there, especially,

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you know, women cheering for this kind of thing, this kind of an open border policy.
It really it's kind of like chickens cheering for Kentucky Fried Chicken, you know what
I mean, because it's like nothing good is going to come out of bringing this, you know,
and I'm not just trashing, you know, Muslims or anything like that.

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But I'm saying that a truly Islamic society is not friendly to women, not friendly to
children.
And just look, just if anybody really wants to understand.
If you really want to understand, you know what it's like, just visit some of these other
countries, which you have the Arabia, go to Iraq, go to Kuwait, even Kuwait, which is

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kind of a liberal nation in the UAE.
You can see some of these other other countries.
You lose a lot of your rights.
You know what I mean?
And not only that, would you like it?
I mean, I mean, the women that are that are raped by these men and there is no nothing

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happens to the men.
In some cases, the women are executed because they didn't fight hard enough or you dare
you complain about it.
You know, imagine that being done to your daughter, your wife, your sister.
These things are what concerns me.
And this is what keeps me up late at night because and I love my liberal friends.

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I do.
I've got some of them, but they're so they're so separated from reality.
They've never ever, ever have they seen Islamic law?
They've never seen, you know, Sharia law.
They've never seen that.
And I have, you know, and I've seen the results of that.

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In addition to that, I've seen countries and absolute chaos, you know, and that's what
happens when you start.
Look, I've worked in a prison, OK, for a while, and everybody in there was innocent.
They were all innocent.
Nobody did anything wrong in prison.
But realistically, no, everybody in prisons, liars on top of being a criminal and a convicted

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criminal in 99.999 percent of the time, they are there because they need to be there.
And and and when you see, you know, the things that are going on in some of these border
towns, I mean, look, they're having firefights down on the southern border.
I mean, between, you know, these Mexican drug cartels, you know, we need to take those guys.

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We need to go to war against them.
You know, I mean, honestly, we're sending our soldiers are the best that we have, the
brightest that we have.
And the Canadians did the same thing.
You sent a bunch of them overseas, you know, in Afghanistan, you know, to do peacekeeping
and combat roles.
And and several of them got wounded and killed themselves.
When we got a war right here on our own borders in our own cities, you know, I think that

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we're wasting time and resources and and what we need to be doing is is secure in our own.
And that's Alberta.
That's the you know, that's the rest of Canada proper.
We hope that they they get things under control.
But I've had conversations with Canadians in the east, and it's a whole lot different

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than having a conversation with you guys.
You know, they want nothing to do with the United States.
They think that we're all, you know, you know, fascist and and not all of them, but some
of them.
And I think that it's very hard to have a conversation with people that have totally
sold out to socialism and and you know, the idea that the government's going to take care

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of you and the government's not going to take care of you.
Nothing's guaranteed.
That's why I still work.
You know, I mean, yes, I'm retired.
Yes, I have an army retirement.
But I always keep that in the back of my mind that the government could at some point in
time just say, look, not paying you no more.
That's why it's good to have a skill, a job, you know, own your own business, invest in

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your in your surroundings.
So you can be a more independent person.
But anyway, our province.
Yeah, or problems.
So you met there's a couple of things you mentioned there.
You mentioned the border and you mentioned prisoners.
So last time we spoke, I was talking about how we had men in jail in Alberta.

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And actually, at that time, I think they've been in jail for about a year and a half.
No trial, no bail, no nothing.
And remand like the worst of the worst places to be in jail.
And they were they were there because they were charged with conspiracy conspiring to
murder RCMP.
Now the reason they were charged for that is because these men this was to do with the

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Coups border demonstration back in twenty twenty two.
These men were well aware of what the government was prepared to do to the people who are protesting.
And they decided, hey, you know, if the government comes for people with violence, we will protect
them.
Now in the United States, that's a constitutional provision.
I mean, you guys down there, you have the right to a militia to protect yourselves from

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tyrannical government.
States have their state defense forces.
And there's been times when the people were at odds with the government and they're allowed
to say, no, if you come to with force, we're going to meet you with force.
We can duke it out in the courts like we're supposed to.
Well, in Canada, that's like criminal offense to defend yourself against the government.
So what ended up happening is these guys went to jail and two of them, they actually ended

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up pleading out for minor kind of weapons related charges.
Basically you're not allowed to have a handgun in a house.
You have to have it in a safer range or something like that.
You can't move it without the government's permission, those types of things.
Well the other two, they got six and a half years in prison and they didn't do anything.

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The only thing they did wrong was they were prepared to protect people.
That's it.
Six and a half years in prison.
Another one of my friends was simply there.
His name's Marco Van Huguenose.
He ended up kind of thrown into a leadership position.
He was a counselor for Fort McLeod at the time and he was the one that kept things level

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headed.
When it seemed like things were heating up, he said, hey, you know what people, we should
leave because this is a peaceful protest and it could change.
So we don't want that.
So let's get out of here.
He liaised with the RCMP.
He was the communicator for the group.
They just put him in prison for four months, 120 days in prison for that.

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So with all these things, with Trump trolling Trudeau by talking about him as the governor
of the 51st state, it occurred to me, had we had the same constitutional provisions
as you do down sell, what those men did up here would have been celebrated.

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To stand up to your government and say no, we're not going to let you abuse citizens
anymore is a very, very brave thing to do because most of the time it doesn't work out
well for us.
And that's where we're at.
So when I saw Trump talking about this, these things started going through my mind and I
started thinking, you know, that would have sucked to have to deal with four years of
Joe Biden.

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I mean, I don't want a weekend at Bernie's president any more than anyone else does.
But at the very least, free speech, right to bear arms and the right to a militia.
Those are very, very important things.
And you mentioned communism and socialism, these things.
Canada, this never occurred to me and would not have had it not been for the things around

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the covid restrictions.
Democracy isn't the fastest, but it's the easiest path to communism because all you
have to do is keep people comfortable and keep taking away rights little by little by
little with no means for them to defend themselves and boom, there you are.

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And that's where we're at right now.
And so when I saw Trump just completely rock the United States in the polls, it gave me
hope as a Canadian because what happens down there changes our pulse up here.
What's your thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, first off, you know, we have to pray for these folks that are wrongfully

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imprisoned and pray that they get out.
And I think that we need to do more than pray.
We need to take action.
You know, we need to petition in the most peaceful manner as possible.
But I do think things are going to change, as you could tell, you know, with Trudeau
stepping down.

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You know, I don't know what happened with his meeting in Florida with Trump, but something
happened because when he came back, it wasn't long after that, you know, that he decided
to resign.
Does that did that surprise you?
Does that surprise anybody?
It surprised me a little bit until I thought on this really long.

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And I realized that what he did, he didn't actually resign.
He said he would resign when another leader is selected.
And he pro-rogue parliament.
And then the light bulb went on.
I thought, oh, I see the government is in complete disarray, the federal government.
So what he's done now is he's excused himself from all accountability to parliament.

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He does not want to talk to the people.
And we saw that during the freedom convoy.
There was millions of people in Ottawa wanting to talk to the government and have the government
hear them at parliament, which literally means the place to speak in our country.
And he wouldn't talk to them.
And now he did the ultimate bait and switch.
He is still the prime minister.

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The Liberal Party, the governing party still can do all of the things.
They can't make any laws, but they can still do contracts and appoint senators and Supreme
Court justices and all those things that are apart from that.
And he can do it without ever having to talk to anybody about it.
So I think when he went down there, he looked into the eyes of an adversary that had zero

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respect for him, understood how incredibly weak of a leader he was.
And he knew without a doubt that he would never be able to stand in the face of a Donald
Trump administration in the United States.
And I think that's why he did what he did.
And there's always a suspicion that comes out of that.

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If you've ever watched or studied and read the history of Donald Trump and some of the
ways that he does business, he can be a very vicious businessman.
And there's nothing wrong with that as long as you're not just destroying people.

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But man, I think that something happened in that conversation.
And something was said or something was alluded to being said.
And he took the pathway of least resistance and decided to pop smoke and get out.
Now, do I think that Canada is going to be the 51st state?

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No, I don't.
I don't think that.
I do think that some of your provinces have an opportunity for independence.
I do think that some of them do have an opportunity to petition the United States.
There's definitely a pathway for it.
But Canada in whole, I don't think that you would be able to get the entire country to

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agree to that.
But I do think that you could get the Albertans to agree to be independent.
And whether it's to become your own republic or to become part of the United States, you
definitely should have the opportunity if that's what you want.
Right.
According to our law in Canada, there isn't a particular pathway for the country or the

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provinces to join another country.
So, we are a confederation of distinctly culturally different groups.
So the provinces, right?
We're sovereign in almost all matters except for a few things like international trade,

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international diplomacy, currency, those types of things.
So according to our law, each province, we can hold a referendum.
And as long as the question is clear, the answer is clear.
That gives our provincial governments a mandate and a duty to negotiate secession with the
federal government, which may or may not lead to an independent province.

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If the federal government fought a province that had a referendum with a resounding yes,
we want out, and they tried to tell them no, then there's an international law that allows
a province to unilaterally declare independence, much like what Kosovo did.
Canada supported Kosovo in their Declaration of Independence, even though it wasn't done

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quite through the proper channels.
But internationally, democracy is respected.
So if democracy says, yes, we want to go this way, then generally international law would
support that.
And I really think, actually, you know what, scratch that.
I know 100% for certain that if Alberta had that referendum, which we're pushing for,

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and we had a clear answer to a clear question, I believe that our friends south of the border
would 100% support us and back us in our quest to try their own course.
100%.
Let me tell you, in having these conversations, our president-elect has said it himself.
You know, he talks about Canada being the 51st state.

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He has a deep interest.
If he didn't, he wouldn't have said anything about it.
So there's something there, obviously.
Words are powerful.
They're very powerful.
And they have motivated people in this movement.
When I first heard about this movement a couple of years ago, there was a lot of people talking.

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But right now, you're starting to see actual functional things.
You're hearing the president of the United States mention the possibility of this happening.
So I think that it's so powerful.
Chris, it's so powerful.
I think I really want you all to have the freedom, no matter what you do.

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If you decide to break off and do, I know some people say 51st state.
Some people say independent, their own independent nation.
But whatever you do, I really hope and pray that you all can live under a constitution
that guarantees you the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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And that you cannot just be unjustly thrown in jail.
It sounds like these truck drivers.
Obviously, we have our January 6th issue as well.
We have people that were thrown in jail.
Some of them, they broke laws.
They broke stuff, they tore stuff up, they assaulted people.
Got it, got it, got it.

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But some of them went to jail and never even went inside the Capitol.
Now, that I have a problem with.
I have a problem with people being bullied.
I've always hated bullies.
I see what's happening to you all as a case of ultimate bullying from your prime minister

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in particular and from just the way that your government is established.
It's so foreign to me.
I've traveled through Canada, I've visited, love it.
Beautiful country, beautiful place.
But it's so foreign to me to hear somebody say that you can't own a firearm or you can't

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do these things.
Look, I've got enough firearms in this room that I'm in right now.
It would blow your mind.
The stuff that I've got in here.
And it's all legally owned here.
But to not be able to carry it, in some cases, I can't carry it to certain states.

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I can't just slap on my six shooter and ride into Washington, DC.
I mean, they'll arrest you, they'll hang you, they'll do all that stuff, figuratively speaking.
But when I see this quest for freedom and I read some of the comments, I'm reading a
lot of these comments here, you know, it's really nice to see the open dialogue that

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we're having here.
But you have a lot of support here in America.
You do.
I mean, it's not just James McCormick, US Army retired officer here, you know, who just
happens to work in Washington, DC.
It's I mean, look, I walk the halls of Congress in the Senate every week.

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And I can promise you that that the discussion about Canada and the border and in particular,
you know, our ability to be able to work together potentially offer statehood opportunity, it's
there, you know, it's happening.
So that's it's it's much needed because you mentioned how our system of government is

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foreign to you now, for those people watching, and maybe you don't know this either.
I've watched our premier who I don't agree with everything she does, by the way, I think
her net zero and carbon capture stuff is complete idiocy.
But the way she stands up for Alberta, she is, I'll say that she's the best premier we
have ever had in this province.

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The way this government works.
We've never declared independence in Canada.
Canada and Canadians have the right given to them by the crown to self govern.
So we're allowed to make our own laws, but we still have to send our laws to the King
of England now to get royal assent.

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So they become law.
We have never been independent.
The United States, you mentioned bloodletting.
Thousands and thousands of people fought and they died for the independence that you guys
have in the United States.
You felt that and that's a that is a major, major part of your history.
And I believe that's what's allowed the United States to stay as free as they are, because

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you guys, you paid the ultimate sacrifice to gain what you have.
Canada when we when Canadians when the colonies started rumbling about becoming their own
country or becoming independent, the crown, the British crown had already gone through
this at the United States and lost severely and had to pay major reparations to the people

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of the United States after losing the war of independence.
We didn't do that and they didn't want to do that again.
So instead they said, OK, OK, OK, you guys can make your own laws.
You can self govern.
We'll hold everything in trust for you.
The land will hold the resources in trust and will be your police will be your the executive
arm of your government, but you guys can manage yourselves.

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They never once said we're independent, which is why we don't have militia to protect against
government, because our government isn't for the people here in the United States.
The government is for the people by the people in Canada.
Our government, you might not know this, but every elected official in this country swears
an oath of allegiance to the crown.
And not to the people of the country.

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So that's the major difference.
And if you look at the comments, there's a lot of people, they get it.
Nikki Hurley is on all the time says we have zero remedy.
We really don't.
The remedy for us is in our courts.
Our courts have judges that are appointed by the federal government who swear allegiance
to the crown.
So the only way we truly get out of this mess and the path to communism that is democracy
in Canada is if something really major changes and we gain not only self governance, but

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independence in this country.
We don't have it.
Yeah, you know, I read an interesting comment about the how Canada was a corporation in
the United States in 1867.
I don't know exactly where that was at.
That too.
Yeah.
Which is very interesting.
I think that so the appetite is there.

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Yes.
What's what's what's the next step for you guys?
I don't believe that this is a matter of okay, let me back up.
If we put out all the facts and the information about what Canada currently is, what the United
States is, what the benefits are to each path, I think that the majority of Canadians would

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agree that it's time for a serious change, except for emotions.
What we're fighting is an emotional attachment to what we believed to be the truth in our
childhood.
As a child, I was taught in school that we have this Charter of Rights and Freedoms
that Pierre Elliott Trudeau gave us and that makes us the freest country on earth.

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We have a constitution with a Bill of Rights.
We have three branches of government, executive, legislative and judicial that are separated
and they protect us.
And that's why we're free and we'll always be free.
They taught us that our ancestors fought and died for our freedom so that we wouldn't have
to.
And that in itself was the biggest lie we were ever told.

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Anyone that believes that someone else fought for your freedom and you don't have to continue
fighting to keep it, you're going to lose your freedom right away.
So we're fighting a battle, not just of facts and logic, but of an emotional attachment
to something we thought existed that doesn't exist in the way we thought it did.
I think the more we see crazy things happen in Canada, the more we allow special interest

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groups to attack our very humanity, whether it be climate action or men pretending to
be women and beating the crap out of them in women's sports or killing our unborn and
not just saying, hey, this is a tragic last resort, but actually celebrating these anti-human

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ideas, the more of that we see, the more people will realize that something is really wrong
and we need to fix it.
But they're going to see that we can't fix it unless we have this type of major change.
So the next step I think is just it's conversations, it's coffee shop chats about what we want

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for our future, for our kids and stuff like that and how we get it.
And unfortunately, there might be a lot more pain before we make any changes if we do.
They probably had the same conversation in Venezuela as they saw socialism creeping up
onto their doorstep.
And then before they knew it, they're eating their pets and burning their money in the

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street.
So that's enough to see.
Yeah.
So interesting, very interesting conversation.
And so the next step you're saying to take this to the street, I think that's where you
need to go with this.
You need to take this to the street.
You need to have the conversations.

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But there has to be a demand.
There has to be a demand document.
Someone, somewhere, a group of people, it's going to take a lot of you together, working
together.
You need to demand the referendum.
This is what we want.
Put it up for vote and go from there.

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But I think before you do that, you need to do a lot of educating in the field.
Because as you said, there will be people, they'll get to that point and they'll think,
oh, I can't abandon this.
This is abandoning my country.
That's not the case at all.
Your country has abandoned you.
That's what's happened.
You've been abandoned.
It's not that you're leaving Canada.

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Canada has left you and become something that you all don't recognize.
And if we just look at Alberta in itself and all the resources that you have, their natural
resources, the oil, the gas, the timber, we can go into agriculture.
There's a lot of things that you have there that would make you a powerhouse.

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Are you really benefiting from that?
You know, Chris, are you guys really benefiting from all of those resources?
Looking at your oil and your gas alone, you should be able to, there shouldn't be a street
with a pothole.

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Every bridge should be secure.
You should have the best.
A veteran or a senior choosing to buy groceries or heat at home either.
That's absolutely ludicrous.
Yeah.
That's right.
You could really take care of your people and you could really take care of the people
that need to be taken care of.
I mean, I'm a firm believer, you know what I mean, that there are some programs that

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are really good, like taking care of the senior citizens, like you're talking about.
You know, everybody's bitching because they can't find a job or people are working and
they're in their 70s and their 80s and they're still working.
Why?
You know, we're a civilized world and we have that in America, but we're civilized nations

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with advances that should allow us to be able to not only take care of them, but when they
hit 65, they should be able to retire.
They should be able to continue to pay their bills.
And oh, by the way, they should be a healthy human being that can live for another 30 or
even 40 years.
So you really embrace that retirement.

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You know, look, I'm excited about RFK coming in as well.
I think that there's a lot to be said about the shots and there's a lot to be said about,
you know, the foods that we eat.
I think you guys do a better job at it than we do in America.
I think that you're...
Well, I don't know.
Well, your food's better.
You don't have as many additives and ingredients, you know what I mean?

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As RFK pointed out, you can take a box of Fruit Loops from the shelf in Canada and a
box here in America and the difference is crazy as far as ingredients goes.
But all that being said, I think that we have an opportunity here that you all can either

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A, become the 51st state of the United States of America or B, you could become your own
independent nation or C, you do something with Canada in a whole and you got to make
that decision, you know, are we going to make Canada to become a free nation of the people
by the people and for the people?

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I think you're going to get support on any one of those, but what we won't be able to
support is a continued, you know, the border crisis, a continued, you know, a lot of your
people are abused.
So I think that a lot of your folks have had freedom robbed from them.

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I don't believe that everyone, I mean, the very fact that you can't own a firearm is
just one thing in some places, but the other facts around how you guys, you know, you're
paying taxes and this money is going to a centralized location and it's being divvied

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out to other people.
Well, that's not fair.
Funding wars we have nothing to do with and won't know the truth about, right?
Absolutely.
And you know, look, I'm going to tell you, you know, I was all over this world, globe
trotting in all of these different countries and, you know, the Middle East is just one

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of those areas, you know, I've done a lot of time in Central America, South America,
you know, and even in the Caribbean, you know, and Europe.
And there's a lot of things that have went on in the last 40 years, you know, that I've
seen that's just been shocking as far as, you know, what governments will get us to

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do.
And in some cases, the United States will do that as well.
We talk about the military industrial complex, you know, I believe in a strong defense, defense.
I believe in the ability to have a strong offensive capability so that we project power.
We do that.
So that's a warning to other countries.
Don't mess with us.

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Don't mess with our friends because we have the ability.
We can bomb you into the stone ages and we really can.
And I think that those are good deterrent tools.
The best offense is a great defense and the best defense is a great offensive capability
because it'll show people that they don't want to mess with you.

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But you're dealing with them.
It's very important, Chris.
But the other thing is let's look at what happened on 9-11.
Let's look at radical Islamic terrorism.
Now, these are folks that don't have, you know, the kind of resources that we have.
And they're slipping into Canada and they're slipping into the United States by the thousands,

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by the thousands.
I can tell you this.
If we're not careful and we don't get this under control like damn quick, they have the
manpower here right now between Canada and the United States to do something that would
make 9-11 look like a walk in the park.
We lost over 3,000 people in one day, just evaporated.

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In many cases, we found nothing of some of these people.
But I think that we've lived in this dangerous time where all of these people have come in
four years of this, maybe longer.
And you have it just as bad there.
You see what's going on in the UK.

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That's dangerous in the UK because, as you said, over 50% of their country, they're not
natural, you know, they're not natural citizens.
You know, they're from wherever, Syria, Morocco, or wherever the heck they're coming from.
And they're getting into positions of authority in government.

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I mean, look, we've even got a couple of them that are here as US Congresswomen.
It's the president that was a non-natural citizen at one point.
We did.
We did.
We did.
So and all of that makes it even more dangerous because then it's like if you do get attacked,

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are we going to really be able to count on the Canadian government this time around or
the United Kingdom?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
It seems our government almost they celebrate these things.
Like right now, I just read the Canadian government is fast tracking thousands of Palestinian
refugees.
Now, I want to make this clear.

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I believe that what's going on over there is horrendous for both sides, for the people.
It's always the people who suffer when the government makes decisions.
And that's what's going on there.
It's an age old conflict.
But the reality is Canada is fast tracking Palestinian refugees into our country.
We're not screening them all.
This is a fast track thing.
And some of the people that are coming from there do not hold values that are conducive

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to a strong Western society.
As a matter of fact, they hate the West.
And that is extremely dangerous.
Like I mentioned, 52% or something like that of the UK is non-natural citizens.
That in itself isn't inherently bad if they share the same values, but they don't.
And now in Canada, we see pro-Palestinian protesters violently occupying streets.

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And our federal government here, there's either crickets or they're praising these people.
But when peaceful Canadian truckers stand up and go to Ottawa and they're in the streets,
they send in the bullies and the horses to trample them.
So I don't think the United States could depend on Canada at this point to help with

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that sort of thing, because it's almost like we just, if you're a liberal, you have to
accept that as moral or something.
Not the incoming government, our incoming government, I doubt they would put up with
that kind of thing, but I guess we'll see.

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Well you're going to see, I think you're going to see some changes here for sure.
I mean, we're already starting to see some of that.
You know, the legislation moved swiftly in the transgender issue.
And look, I have a problem with that.

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I do.
I have a problem.
Women fought for a long time to get their own sports.
They really did.
I mean, there was a time that women couldn't vote in the United States.
They didn't have the same rights.
They weren't even a person in our country.
Yeah, they weren't even a person.

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And so we come to this point where we have these wonderful women sports, and they become
competitive and some of them can beat a lot of men in the sports, but that wasn't what
that was intended for.
They fought for, they, the women fought for their right to have their own sports.

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And now a lot of women are the ones standing up and saying, you know, well let these men
participate in these sports, in these women's sports, because they identify as a woman.
You know, I can identify as a lot of things.
I can identify as a jelly donut.

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I can identify as a cat, but that doesn't mean that I'm really a jelly donut or a cat.
You know, and I think that I'm just going to say this.
I think that there is a mental illness part of this that is not being addressed.

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Could you imagine if I walked into my work and started barking and acting like a dog?
I mean, 20 years ago, they'd call the paddy wagon on you.
And you would go in a padded wagon and you would go and be evaluated for a mental illness.
Now they give you a cookie.

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Now a cookie, a medal, probably a, and really probably the presidential medal of freedom,
you know, here in the United States.
Depends on who's in there.
You can smash a little bit how things have changed.
Now you get a section eight if you won't agree to the wokeness.

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Actually, what's the name of the guy that was, Trump put on a task force to weed out
wokeness in the US military.
I watched him give a speech at a Trump rally.
Do you remember who that was?
I can never remember his name.
He's a veteran.
There are several of them.

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Obviously, we just watched Pete Hegseth go through the senator attacks on him.
I don't think he'll get a single Democrat vote for him just because they...
These are men who serve their country in the most hardcore way, dedicated their lives to

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protecting freedom.
Now there are bureaucrats who are condemning them as enemies of the state because they
refuse to participate in wokeism.
Well, look, we've seen that.
If you want to see...
Anytime that a veteran that is a conservative veteran runs for political office, they always

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come after them, attack them, say that they accuse us of being some kind of warmongers
or they try to find some kind of fault in your military record.
We have this law called stolen valor and it's been designed to go after people that lie

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about being in the military and having certain medals and they generally...
I'm quite happy about that too.
They get money from that.
But we're looking at an amendment now to the Stolen Valor Act that would include wrongful
attacks on veterans.
Well, one Navy veteran was horrifically attacked by CNN who just had to pay him $5 million

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because of that.
Good.
Good.
I'm glad that that happened, but there's so many other veterans out there that have run
for political office.
They've had their reputation besmirched and smeared.
Look, I've had the same thing happen to me.
I have a husband and a wife.
They hate me for whatever reason.

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I think, well, I know partly because he was a stolen valor guy, because he had been lying
to people about having certain medals for being wounded in combat that he never even
left the United States, never was wounded.
The fact that they both worked for the federal government, worked from home, and spent the

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majority of their time on social media attacking veterans that are running for political office.
Yeah, absolutely.
And unfortunately, the guy worked for the Veterans Administration, believe it or not,
and his wife worked for the IRS.
So it's like all of a sudden, anybody that has a problem with them, well, somebody got

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access to your medical records.
We see here that you got shot in the hand in Iraq or you have to see-
I remember seeing that in the news.
Yeah, absolutely.
That kind of stuff happens.
So what we'd like to do is have a law that goes after people like that and puts their
ass in prison, you know what I mean?

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Just like they would somebody that's lying about being a war hero and they've never even
served or in this guy's case, he served, but he served in a very dishonorable fashion.
But then to be able to go after those folks who are attacking people.

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Senator Sheehy in Montana was attacked relentlessly by these groups of people on the left that
were trying desperately to get Montanans to think that he was some kind of a war criminal
and a stolen valor guy.
He was none of those things.

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He was a very honorable Navy Academy graduate, served in the United States Navy SEALs, and
he was wounded in combat.
He does have a purple heart, but they fought relentlessly to try to get people to believe
that he didn't have one, that he somehow shot himself in some kind of a park.
And all of these things just feed on this frenzy of problematic things that we have

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in America and that you all have in Canada as well.
So what's the best way to take somebody out, right?
Because I'm sure you all faced it, especially you all that are calling for independence
or becoming the Alberta 51st.
How many of you had your reputations besmirched and people coming after you on social media
just because you want to experience freedom?

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Every one of us, every one of us.
I was shocked to see, I had Googled my name for something and I came up with this D-SMOG
whatever group.
And they've actually got me in there and they got a bunch of stuff right and they got a
bunch of stuff wrong.
But I was shocked to see that somebody would bother trying to smear me on social media.

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I mean, I'm not perfect.
I do enough stuff wrong on my own that the truth is enough to say, hey, that guy's not
perfect.
But for them to have to do that, that was a real eye-opener.
But your family has a long history of service.
So let me ask you this, when you were a kid and you thought about your dad, your grandpa,

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any other family members who were veterans, service people, or when the community thought
of them, were they honoured and revered and respected back then?
Was it a different tone than it is now?
Yes, it was 100% different.
I have never seen an about face done so much as I've seen after this last 20-year war.

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So I had a lot of uncles that were in war.
I had one uncle that was in World War II and he was a prisoner of war in the Philippines.
And until the day he died, he carried a level of resentment about the way that he was treated.

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And then not really realizing as a kid what the baton death march was.
And some of the things that I know very well about now, people honoured their service.
They respected them.
And we wanted to have the veterans with an honourable discharge running for mayor and

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city council because they had a level of integrity and honour.
And nowadays that's changed.
And I think it's changed primarily, Chris, and we can go into a lot of other things.
We could go into law enforcement, we could go into all these other things.
But let me just say this.
I think it changed because of the number of politicians who avoided going and serving

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during the Vietnam War.
I mean, it's just a fact.
A lot of them did.
We hear the Democrats chastising Trump for not serving in Vietnam.
But their president had five student deferments and then one medical deferment for exercise-induced

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asthma that he had when he was a child.
But he still played college football and all these different things.
But no one ever talked about that.
And I think it goes into a society that there's not a lot of people.
You don't have to serve now.
There's no compulsory military service in the United States.

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I think that that would be a good thing.
I really do.
And some people would disagree with me with that.
But I think that it would be a good thing because then it would allow people to understand.
The other thing is we've allowed the media to control the absolute messaging on everything.

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They control everything.
And so in their quest to be the first to get a story or to get this or to get that, you've
got all of these operatives that they utilize and they pay.
Now, these are the real bad people.
These are the people that are 100% whores for money.

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There's no other way to say it.
I know my language is a little rough and I hope that people can understand that.
But it's the best way for me to tell you.
They're whores for the money.
And so honor, integrity does not fit in their life.
They don't have that in their life.
What they have is a love for money and a lack of appreciation or self-worth or self-respect.

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So all they live for is to make money.
These operatives, and in some cases lobbyists as well, and you all probably have the same
things up there.
They're being paid by big time politicians or corporations to say, do and attack people,
find anything you can.

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So I'll tell people, so people say, well, you should run for office.
And I'm like, well, I did once and I lost not by much, but I did once.
And I don't think I'll ever do it again.
But it's not because I'm afraid of people going in and saying, well, James McCormick,
we know back in 1986 when you were stationed at Fort Stewart, Georgia, you used to visit

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the NCO club and the enlisted man's club and you got drunk a few times.
Yeah, I did.
Sounds like fun.
I absolutely did.
And I've been through divorces because I'm not a perfect man.
I'm not a perfect person.
But what I am is an American and a patriot that believes that it's the imperfect.

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You look at all of our founding fathers, find me the perfect man that was there.
George Washington would be about the closest to perfection, because the rest of them, they
had something going on.
They either had some kind of an issue with women or with money or with alcohol.

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Opium.
Opium.
It was all there, man.
And it was these imperfect men that came together and drafted up a declaration of independence,
pulled together these militias that became an army, a standing army that defeated the

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world's strongest army and kicked them out of the country.
And we took our independence.
If not, I would say we would have the same type of government that you have today, which
obviously you still have a loyalty to the King of England.
And that is all, again, that's so foreign to us.

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But I do think that you all are perfectly poised and you've got a president that's
going to be inaugurated tomorrow, that you will have someone that will listen to you,
even if it's just a bunch of Albertans going around and doing a petition and sending a

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letter directly to President Donald Trump, hey, we would like to whatever it is you want
to do.
And he'll talk about it.
And when he talks about it on social media and everything else, you guys are going to
get the fire brain, man, and you're guys going to be able to move forward with something.
So God bless you, man.

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You know, you mentioned that you're not a perfect man and none of our politicians are
perfect.
None of our leaders are perfect.
It is, I feel like I should point out there was one perfect man on this planet.
Yes.
And as a matter of fact, that perfect man made the ultimate sacrifice for every single
one of us.
And his sacrifice, for those of you that don't get it, this is Jesus, by the way, Jesus sacrifice

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paved the way to the ultimate freedom and the way Western society is built.
Every single part of Western society is built on Christian values.
The United States, all of your individual state constitutions, they were declarations
of faith.
And that's what built your country.
And that's what our country was supposed to be built on.

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But what I've seen in my lifetime is a massive turning away from those values, from that
one perfect leader.
And I actually do have a feeling that that's changing a little bit right now, because just
in the last couple of years, I feel more emboldened to be able to talk about my faith a little

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bit more.
I didn't so much in the past just because, you know, I didn't want to deal with the whatever
from whoever.
And so I just, I just stay quiet.
I feel like that's changing a little bit.
We got Donald, men like Donald Trump and other prominent politicians in the United States,
they're talking about their faith more and more openly.
And they're mentioning, here's a here's a good one, Charlie Kirk, you watch his stuff

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that he does on college campuses.
You know, he goes against the woke mob all the time, and he shares his faith and he does
it freely.
And I watched this guy do that.
I'm like, hey, if more people did that, if more people talked about the values, not even
just not even maybe Christianity, but just the values that build our countries, that
would make a huge difference.
But now we're starting to see it.
So there's some hope.

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And even with the, you know, with the the trans idea ideology, the world's one of the
world's richest and most powerful men right now, Elon Musk is in a position of massive
authority in the new administration.
And he has declared that he's going to eliminate the woke mind virus that's destroying our
society.

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So these are the small but really large things that are giving me hope that we're going to
see some amazing things in the next few years.
And your comment about we need a group to do this.
So this shirt that I'm wearing, this is a the Alberta Prosperity Project.
I was the interim CEO of this organization for a while.

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But trying to run a cafe and dig myself out of the COVID debt is it takes a lot of time.
This is the group that's been working on this in Alberta for the last, well, since 2021.
It started in a shop in Niskiw, Alberta in 2021.
And it was a bunch of people that said, listen, we're done with this political theater we're
playing, we need to do something different.
Alberta needs to have some leverage to negotiate with the federal government so we can get

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back to a pro-human stance on things.
And they're doing it.
But what we found is a political campaign to win a political campaign in Alberta, I
think it's like 12, 15 million dollars, to win a referendum on independence, we kind
of budgeted it to be over three years, like 20, 22 to 25 million bucks, something like

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that, because you need radio ads, billboards, massive advertising, huge educational campaigns,
town halls everywhere.
And what I found is, as we did these town halls, the conversion rate was like 90%.
If at the beginning of a meeting with a thousand people, I said, who here believes that Alberta

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independence is the best path forward for us?
If half put up their hand, me and three or four sometimes other speakers would deliver
our messages.
And at the end, I'd say, now how many of you believe that independence is the answer?
And it would be like a standing ovation and everybody's hands in the air.
So it's just getting these messages out.
Yeah, well, now's the time.

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The question is, the question really should be, is why is it that you want to have people
that limit your freedom?
Why is it okay to live in an abusive society and to not be able to experience the freedom
and the gifts that God has given us?

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Just like you talked about being uncomfortable or whatever at certain points to talk about
your faith.
What gives a government, a tyrannical government, the right to make any citizen feel that way?
We do.
We the people give them the right to do that because we elect and we vote for them or we

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support them or we've refused to say anything.
The worst thing you can do is to not say anything because that's the fastest way.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right, Chris.
And it's like when we really look at, when I look across this country and I'll look across

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and I've really become close and to some of your folks in Alberta, I've got them on my
Facebook and my ex Twitter or whatever you want to call it now, LinkedIn, I'm on there
as well.
They're all want just basic fundamental rights to be able to live their life and freedom.

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And when I see things like that and I see a struggling single mother that's trying to
raise her kids or I see a family, a husband and a wife and their kids and they're just
wanting their kids to be able to go to school and get an education and to have a better
future, to have a better life than what you had.

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That's my goal for all of my kids.
All of my kids, I would look at them.
I want you to have a better life than I had because that's what we should all be striving
for is to make sure that we don't hand someone a big sack of crap.
We give them something better.
And I think that as you see this in the next week or two especially, the timing on this

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is going to be critical.
I would encourage you all to, I mean you've already started it, but I would encourage
you to really look at these letters to the President of the United States and to invite

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Donald Trump, President Trump to come on these radio shows and to speak and to hear you.
I mean the man gets your petitions.
And you're petitioning him for help.
That's essentially what you're asking for.
Help us, stand up for us, be a voice for us.
Because there's a lot of people out there that are afraid.

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Just like you said, at one time you felt uncomfortable talking about your fate.
And the Bible tells us not to be uncomfortable, but you can't light a candle and put it under
a bushel, you know what I mean?
Under a basket.
You have to let it shine.
And here we are at this point where we're letting our light shine.

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And no, I wasn't a perfect man and I'm still not a perfect man.
But I do have enough respect and self-respect and self-dignity that when I see other people
suffering I feel an obligation to say something about it.
It's an obligation that we have as human beings.

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And you all have so many wonderful things up there.
I mean, let's just think about it.
All of these wars that we're delving into, it was just so unbelievable what happened
you know, whenever Biden shut off the LNG exports.

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He essentially prolonged the war in Ukraine.
Because then all of these other countries that could have come in and helped Ukraine,
you know, they're not going to do it because they've got to get their natural gas from
Russia.
And all of this thing just didn't make sense to me.
And when I read these things about the people talking about the war being a racket and that's

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been said for many, many years.
But the military industrial complex has made a lot of money on that war.
Any place that there's trillions of dollars of investment there's going to be some who
abuse it, right?
Well, look, I'm not a fan of the Russians.

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I'm not a fan of the Russians at all.
I think what they did was wrong.
But I have a level of empathy for their soldiers that they're sending in to be butchered.
And the Ukrainians that are being butchered.
I feel bad for them.
I really do.
I think decision makers are comfortable.

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They're comfortable thousands of kilometers away, you know, and it's the people that suffer
every time.
And it's the same thing, you know, with, you know, with the Palestinian issue.
You know, I hate to see anyone's, you know, innocent civilians be killed.
But let's just remember that this started in, you know, in October.

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And it started with a violent attack on the Israelis.
And people were murdered and held in captivity.
Some of them are being released today.
And I don't think that that's going to end.
But ultimately, the Palestinians could end that.
But they have to get rid of Hamas, a known terrorist organization.

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So when I see the lack and I hear some of the chants because they do it in Washington,
D.C. as well, by the way, you know, they're protesting constantly down there, violent
protests that you were talking about.
You're right about that.
Right on the money.
And they're chanting from the river to the sea.
And they're chanting these pro Hamas slogans.

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Well, it's hard for me to have any sympathy.
I have a little bit of empathy.
I definitely have a lot of sympathy for the innocent kids that are killed.
I do.
But I blame the adults that are over there that are, you know, that have allowed Hamas
to prosper.

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You know, America became America because we picked up a rifle and we fought for our freedom.
Fact.
That's what happened.
No, we tried to petition the king.
We tried to do.
We tried every way possible.
For for peace.
And then it came down to the shock heard around the world.

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You know, whenever, you know, you know, we had our militias stand against, you know,
the British tyranny.
And eventually we became a formable force that kicked them out of here and defeated
them soundly in the field.
But it took a lot of bloodletting, a lot of bloodshed on both sides.

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I hate that.
But I think that the Palestinians, if they truly want peace, as they say they want and
they want their own country, they kick the terrorists out.
That's what they did.
And become a legitimate country that isn't this, you know, this nonsense and jackassery
that we see going on over there all the time.
I mean, they're murdering people, you know, for stupid things.

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You know, look, I don't I'm not a homosexual or anything like that.
And but I don't believe in taking them to the top of the building and throwing them
off just because of their belief structure.
You know, they have the freedom to believe and live their life.
I may not agree with it, but they have that freedom to live that way.
And who am I to go in and to try to crush them or hurt them?

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Or in the case of these radical Islamists, kill them?
You know, that's wrong.
And so you'll never have freedom as long as you have things like that going on.
And freedom.
Freedom is a lack of fear.

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So if you have a fear of your government, then you're lacking freedom.
Yeah.
Israel and Palestine, Jews, Arabs.
Unfortunately, I'm well aware that even the Bible says the sons of Isaac and the sons
of Ishmael will never be away from each other's heels.

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They'll be stubborn as mules in their fight to the very, very end.
And, you know, we've we've been witnessing that.
Well, I mean, I've seen that my entire life, right?
It's just something that's never going to stop.
So to pick sides and protest and damage the what we've created, the bastion of freedom
in the West here over those conflicts is to me, it's completely counterproductive.

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I mean, if if you don't want to live like that, this is the place to come.
You come here and you're free to believe what you want.
And we don't we don't we don't murder each other because I mean, some crazy people do.
But for the most part, we don't fight each other over our religious beliefs.
And we peacefully coexist.
And if we start sacrificing that to for what's going on abroad, what are we you know, what

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are we leaving?
What freedom are we are we continuing to make available for people that want to flee tyranny?
Yeah.
Yeah, I see some comments over here.
Stone League Christians killing gays and burning witches at one time, too.
Yeah, but not on my watch.
Stone, not on my watch, buddy.
That's never happened on my watch.

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And I'm and I and I get it that you feel this way.
And I mean, I've read some of the comments and I get it.
I understand nobody's trying to push any anything on you.
But what we're saying is, is this is what I'm talking about.
You know, it's always got to be some kind of a of a double negative or some sort of
a, you know, an attack on, you know, this is this is how we've gotten to an

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uncivilized, you know, nation or world for, you know, actually is that, you know, when
someone says something and they disagree with it, you know, it's automatically it goes from
zero to 60.
It's like, you know, something that happened, you know, when, you know, during the and I'm

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trying to think of the Salem witch witch trials.
OK, well, that was back in the sixteen hundreds, man.
There ain't a soul here alive that had anything to do with that.
So and I don't agree with what how that went down.
And I don't agree with killing people for for their beliefs.
I don't believe in that at all.

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As a matter of fact, I have fought against that.
But I have seen those that do believe in that.
I have I have been to places.
I don't know if if any, you know, if if he's been to these countries, but in Iraq, they
would kill children and cut their throats and lay them on the side of the road because
they knew that it upset the American soldiers.

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OK, they had no problem killing their own children in their own cities.
OK, but we had a problem with that.
You know, we definitely had a problem with that.
And and, you know, we tried to make it a better place.
We really did.
I think that that we need we really need to look at things, you know, from the point of

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reality and the point of reality tells us that, you know, that we can only affect the
things that are around us.
Now when I was in Iraq leading soldiers in combat.
When we would see these things, you know, we would go after and try to find the perpetrators
of these these horrific acts and bring them to justice.

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And justice was swift in many cases, as it should be, as it should be.
And it was and it was deserving.
So I don't feel.
You know, I don't feel like that, that I'm on the same level with the radical Islamist

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or radicalized anybody communist, you know, someone that's willing to kill another person
simply because they don't agree with you.
See, I'm not in that boat.
I'm not in that.
I'm not that kind of character, but I am willing to pick up and shoulder a rifle to defend
my nation and defend people who want to live in peace.

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And you've got people around you that don't want peace.
Well, then I got a problem with that.
And we all should feel that way.
I think that we should all stand up for the for the little people or the people that can't
defend themselves.
And we should should aggressively pursue freedom and allow people to have freedom.
You know, one time we got shifted over to why don't just tell you just how bad this

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was.
And then I'll I'll stop for a second.
But we got shifted over to watch a route where these kids were walking to school because
there was a sniper that was shooting little girls that were going to school in Iraq because
this radicalized group didn't believe that girls should have an education.

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But because the Americans were there, the Americans were there, you know, they were
allowed to go to school and because they had a government that was functioning, you know,
they did away with it, that girls couldn't go to school.
But could you imagine being a six or a seven year old little girl walking to school and

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somebody just shoot you just because you're a girl, just because you're going to school?
Come on.
We had to we it wasn't just about the military industrial complex us over there making money
or protecting oil fields.
They sent us to protect these kids so that they could go to and from school.

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And we did that for a while.
I mean, that that is a fact that really happened.
And I think that that that that says a lot about our character and who we are as a people,
you know, a civilized nation, a Christian nation, Judeo-Christian nation.
Most parts of the of of America, in particular in Canada, you know, we don't think that it's

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OK to kill somebody or just to hurt somebody or torture somebody.
Well, it's not that way in other parts of the world.
And when our borders are open, we've got people that believe that same mentality that girls
should not go to school.
OK, and they're willing to do anything that they can to push their belief on you.

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That's when we got a real problem, a real problem.
Yeah.
Geez, I.
You know, I think about conflict and war and you you heard stories about.
People losing their, you know, their their partners in a.

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I.D. or something like that or, you know, taking a bullet, but you just you you kind
of. It's not so much talked about the civilian
factory like horrible things like that. That's just unreal.
And that. I guess that really drives it home why it's so important that when men and women,

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for that matter, do those things and fight those types of battles and see those things,
it's so important that they get the kind of support that they need when they get home.
I mean, you go through your LinkedIn and you're involved in a lot of different organizations
supporting veterans in one way or another. So kudos to you for that.

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And, you know, maybe that's that's something to think about.
There's politics aside, some of the things we fight for is so we specifically don't have
to go through things like that. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, I do want to point out.
No, let me just because, you know, as I'm reading some of these quite what is freedom
mean mean to me and, you know, someone asked that freedom is as I've explained that.

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But I know that there are some people on here that, you know, that are just kind of jerking
our chains and stuff. But, you know, look, I don't care what reason
why that if it was a lie, why we went to Iraq or whatever those days that we made sure that
those kids got to school safe and got home safe.

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Well, I think it was worth it. I really do.
Even if all we did was save one kid's life and allow them to experience a level of freedom.
See, that's what freedom means to me. So I don't get caught up in it.
I was a soldier. I went where I was told to go and I did what
I was told to do. And one thing about it is that we didn't just

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go in, just mowing people down. The only people that we, you know, engaged
and destroyed were those that were trying to engage and destroy us.
And that is the reality of warfare. And I sleep very peacefully every night.
I have zero guilt for anything that I did in Iraq because I never murdered anyone or

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we never did anything that was outside the laws of warfare.
But the enemy that we fought, they did that every day.
And they had no problem with burning kids and killing old people and all of the other
stuff that we saw happen over there. And it happened all the time.

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It was a terrible place. It was a terrible place.
So it may be that there's very rich and powerful people that we will never see, will never
know who they are, and they could be orchestrating all sorts of things.
It could be all some major theater, theatrical act.
But what individuals do within that is what makes the difference, right?

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Whatever the conditions were around why we ended up in Iraq, you were there and you did
good and you just do good wherever you can. And I think that's probably the best we can
hope to do in this world is just do some good wherever we find ourselves.
Everything in politics, if you end up in that cesspool, that fish tank full of crap, you

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got to do the good that you can where you can.
And I don't envy some of our politicians like Trump and Musk right now.
The job they have ahead of them with some of the things that they've said they want
to do, they're absolutely monumental.
Like Musk taking on government bloat and waste.
Holy, the amount of money that's pushing back against him right now.

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There's nobody else in the world that could do that job, right?
You can't be bribed with money.
You're going to try and bribe me with money?
That was the greatest interview I've ever seen him do.
But you know, they look for that.
When those guys go into politics, and it's the same thing in Canada, it's the same thing

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in most politics.
People look for the weakness in an individual.
If you go, if you become an elected official, believe me, people are watching, they're looking,
they're looking at your background.
That person's a womanizer.

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That person likes to drink.
That person likes to, you know, do this or do that.
And they will find and pick at their weaknesses all the time.
So anybody that ever works in politics, you have to be very strong.
You have to have a, you know, never be alone.
That's a good bit of advice.

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And be careful, you know, who you get your pictures with, because people will use that
against you.
So you just have to always be on your toes.
And it's a sad, sad thing.
It's a sad thing.
It used to not be that way.
You know, 20, 30 years ago, it wasn't that way.
And you have to be honest.

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You know, it's like people hate it.
You know, look, the only time that they're going to, the only thing they're going to
hurt you with is the things that you're not honest about.
Or they make stuff up.
So you know, I come right out the gate and people, and I tell you, I'm not a perfect
person.
You know, I'm not a perfect person.

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I've been married and divorced twice.
And I have had, you know, times in my life, you know, where I have been drunk or I have
done things that and said things that I shouldn't have said or done.
But you know, you have to own those things.
That's the reason why you had that first discussion about Jesus Christ, you know, and the great

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thing about accepting him into your heart is you can change your way.
And you know, you can get on another pathway.
And I've been on a great pathway for the last 20 plus years.
And it's been a beautiful walk with with God and with life.
But you still have to fight those imperfections, you know, because you're still human and you're

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still in the flesh.
So you know, when folks get so upset and they get so wound up about this person or that
person, you know, or they're eager to point out someone's faults or their flaws, you know,
or you need to go look in the mirror because we all have those faults and flaws in our

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lives.
But that doesn't mean that your life is over.
It just means that you pick up yourself, you dust off your pants, you know what I mean?
You ask God to forgive and you move forward.
And that's what we need to do.
And right now we have a really great opportunity.
You know, if you guys want freedom, the things that you believe freedom to be, then go for

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it.
And I'll be one of your biggest cheerleaders, one of your biggest fans.
And heck, I'll even help deliver some of those letters for you.
So that's going to tell me what you need.
You know, what would really help is if this message could be spread to our American friends.
I want our American friends to know about the Alberta Prosperity Project in particular,

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because throughout this entire time that I've been politically active, which is only really
the last five years, they are the only group that has a plausible and probable path to
a prosperous Alberta, be it within or external to Canada.
And you know, what you just said reminds me of something a really close friend of mine

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once said, and this was a long time ago, he said this.
He was in a discussion with a group of bureaucrats who were really condemning this one person
for doing something bad.
And they wanted to kill him.
So he said, you know what?
Any of you, of each of you who are free of sin, you can cast the first stone.

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Yeah.
That was the adulterous that was caught in the act.
And that was Jesus Christ that said that.
And you know what I thought was wonderful was one of our senators, whenever they were
grilling Pete Hegseth over his past, you know, we heard you got drunk.
We seen you so drunk, you had to be carried out and you've been married and divorced twice.

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And all of these things, you know, that they said to Pete, Pete had to deploy three different
times to combat as well.
You know, and people don't understand what that does to a family to be gone for a year
and a year and a half.
But there was one senator from, gosh, I wish I could remember his name because he said

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it so greatly.
He was, he got to his question and he said, I want to know how many of you senators here
have ever showed up drunk in a late night vote and the place got quiet.
And he said, and how many of you had to get a divorce because you cheated on your wife
while you were here?
And some of you are cheating on your wives now.

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I'm telling you, he told the biggest truth that's ever been told by when he said that.
And I absolutely applaud him for that.
And I think that there needs to be more truth telling like that.
We're human, man.
I mean, we make mistakes.
People say things, they get upset, they get so wrapped up and you say something, you know,

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it's kind of like shooting or shooting a gun.
You know, once you put that bullet out, man, you can't call it back.
So that's why we really got to think hard, you know, about what we say, what we type,
the things that we, you know, if we're just trying to hurt somebody, okay, just, you know,
comment on their looks or something, but don't try to slander the person over something that
you have only heard, but do not know to be fact.

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Yeah, we see that like the news, the news, it's unreal.
It's like they don't care about the truth anymore.
As long as they're the first person to say it, to say that whatever it is that's sensational
and people watch and start to start a internet chat, they'll say it.
And the truth really doesn't matter anymore.

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I think we're, I think we're really going to see some changes tomorrow is inauguration
and you're, are you, you are going, right?
Yeah.
Well, and I'll be at the ball.
So I mean, that's, so I have, I have a, so I'll, I'll be at the, the later, you know,
the ball.
Yes.
But I will be watching the inauguration.

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Yes, absolutely.
So what's, what do you think that's going to look like in the next week?
It's flurry of executive orders.
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of executive orders that are going to come out.
I think a lot of them are going to be, are going to be really good.
I mean, I think that, that you're going to see a focus on the border, a focus on taxes,

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a focus on energy, which, you know, that's important to Alberta.
You know, I really, I really hope that you guys fully embrace the, the, the resources
that you have.
I mean, cause you could just be such a powerful, powerful, powerful nation.
You know, we have at current consumption and technology, we have about a thousand years

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of natural gas in this province, a thousand years and roughly between two and 500 years
of oil and coal, depending on who you ask.
Yeah.
And we don't have enough resource with current technology and consumption that, you know,
we should, we should be paying the same as what the, what the Arabs pay for their gasoline.
It's unreal.

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And same with you guys in the United States.
Like people think that these oil reserves are just limited to these, like the Athabasca
oil sands or the Duvernay or the Monterey, Monterey or whatever.
But the reality is I've worked in Columbia in the oil patch down there.
And if you look at a reserve map of the country, you'll see that it's not just these spots.

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It's a strip of reserve all the way from Alaska through Northern BC into Alberta, Clippin,
Saskatchewan, down through the Midwest United States, all the way down in the Mexico and
all the way down in the South America.
There is so much resource on this planet.
There are some people that actually think that we will never run out.

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There's that much.
So when you talk about using resource, man, I can't imagine what the world would be like
if we had access to like ultra cheap energy, it would be a game changer.
Well, not only that you have, you know, and it replenishes itself.
It's, it's not like, you know, it just, you know, you use it and it's gone.

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And, you know, I mean, if you've got a thousand years of resources, you know, I mean, it's,
it's, it's going to be, it's going to replenish itself in a thousand years.
And I believe that, you know, and I hear a lot of people, you know, the talk about climate
change and, and all of these, you know, these different things.

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You know, I believe that climate is cyclic.
I think that, that studies and science will prove that to be true.
I don't believe that, that we have this massive problem with, with climate change.
I do believe we have a pollution issue that I do believe.

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And I believe that we should be better, you know, better caretakers of our, of our resources,
you know, our water and, and air.
That's important.
But as far as the climate in itself, and as far as things like, you know, cows and, and,
you know, and look, if we go back and we do a study of, and I'm trying to think the, you

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know, the ice cap studies, you know, where they go and they pull these, these hundreds
of years and thousands of years.
Oh, the, yeah, the core sampling.
Yeah.
The core sampling.
And you'll see that, you know, they had periods of drought, periods of wet time, periods of
ice age, all of these things, you know, have occurred.

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And it's, and it's, and it's like every thousand years.
And then you'll see these, these drastic changes.
And I think that we're just at this point to where we're experiencing, you know, something
that happened a thousand years ago.
And it, and it's just, but that doesn't mean that we ignore our responsibility.

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It just means that, you know, we can't, we can't just screen climate change as a reason
to not utilize our natural resources like gas and water.
Right.
I believe that.
So anyways, that's my thought on that.
And you don't have to agree with that.
I sure do.
And one of the reasons is because in the United States, you guys have one of the most amazing

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champions of energy and oil and gas that I've ever had the pleasure of meeting.
His name is Alex Epstein.
And he wrote a book called Fossil Futures.
And he also wrote a moral case for fossil fuels, or pardon me, fossil futures.
And there was a one before that.
Now I can't remember.

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But anyway, he came to Alberta, the Alberta Prosperity Project actually brought him up
here as a speaker at an event we put on in Calgary, Alberta.
And folks, if you want to get a grasp on this whole climate thing and what energy is and
the truth around oil and gas, go and get his book.
It's absolutely phenomenal.

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And you know what, believe it or not, he's a philosopher that lives in Laguna Beach,
California, of all places.
And he is the most effective arguer, has the most effective arguments for a pro oil and
gas world that I've ever seen in my life.
And I'm a 20, well, I started working in the energy industry on the service rigs in 2000.
So that's a long time ago.

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And that's a lot of time I've seen our governments fighting our industry and people standing
up for it.
But Alex has been the best, for sure.
Yeah, that's awesome.
And you need that.
You got to have champions and warriors for those things.
I mean, I've always been a big believer in the impact that we have and energy.

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And it's everything, it's an all the above effort to look if we can do something so that
we're not dependent on our adversaries, there's two things you should never get from your
enemy.
And that's your food and your fuel.
And unfortunately, we get both.
In many cases, we get a lot of our food resources and we get a lot of our fuel resources.

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And you're getting them from people that are going to utilize that money to do bad things.
And we need to get away from it.
We just and we can.
There's no reason why we can't be easily.
We could do it.
Probably by the end of I would say if we really worked at it, we could do it by the end of
this year, our province.
We want to double our exports to the United States.

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We want to be the great neighbor to the United States and help you guys achieve the energy
dominance that you want, not just energy independence, but dominance.
We have the resource and our premier is down there right now and she's she is.
Oh, lost him.
Can I get him back?

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No.
Well, it's we're 15 minutes to two hours anyway.
So oh, got him back.
Sorry about that.
I don't know.
No, that's OK.
I thought I thought we lost you.
Yeah, but but it is late though.
Yeah.
So she's just about to wrap up as after I was saying that our premier is down there
being a awesome advocate for Alberta Energy, trying to build relationships with the United

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States.
She's an extremely intelligent leader and she knows very well that if she's unsuccessful
in fixing the things that need to be fixed for Alberta to remain within Canada to be
to be part of a confederation, she's already told us that we are the what if we are the

(01:42:42):
or else and that's the people getting that referendum like you mentioned before.
So we'll see how it goes.
But I just want to say thank you very much for spending so much time with me.
I know you got a very early trip to Washington tomorrow.
Hopefully, the roads have cleaned up a little bit.
And again, like we've seen in the comments over and over and over again, thank you for

(01:43:05):
your service.
And, you know, I'd like to say, aside from politics, I'm proud to be a neighbor to the
United States.
You you guys aren't perfect.
Neither are we.
But it is you've stood up for the world unlike anybody any other country has across history.

(01:43:25):
So that really means something to us in Canada, especially considering we don't really have
much military anymore.
Yeah, a big thing.
You can you can change it with your own with either your own state or your own republic.
You can change it.
Bingo.
Absolutely.
Well, here's hoping.
OK, so good luck in Washington.

(01:43:47):
Before we sign off, if people want to get in touch with you or see the things you're
involved in, how can they do that?
Yeah.
And, you know, I went over and I sent a I don't know if you all got my my message on
my email address and my and my ex account.

(01:44:10):
So I'm trying to pull up my my Facebook right now and share my my profile with you guys.
So that way you can have it.
It's it's it's just James McCormick.
And there's a picture with me and my kids.
And because that's what's important to me.
I'm trying to look for it.

(01:44:32):
You know how you go in and you share your your page.
Yeah.
I can find it here.
I put your ex handle in the comments so you can folks you can find him there.

(01:44:54):
And you know what I'll do?
I'll actually after I'll go back and I'll comment with some of your your info is also
people can find you and follow you on Facebook and see what you're up to.
I really enjoy your ex feed.
You got lots of good information there.
So yeah, because I see a couple of people wanting me to, you know, to private message
them and Rodney Ray on there.

(01:45:15):
So yeah, absolutely.
Reach out to me.
I don't know if it came because it came up.
So I put it in under private chat and it just said chat with everyone.
And so I've got my name and my email address.
But when I go to the comments section, I'm trying to go in and comment and I can't comment.
Yeah, I'll put that up right now.

(01:45:37):
I see it there.
So here you go, folks.
Yeah.
I'll put that in the comments.
Well, they say technology is a pain.
Yeah, especially whenever you you know, I mean, it's like I'm used to writing on a stone
tablet.
Yeah, we've come a long way, but we've gone so far back to.

(01:46:00):
Yeah, that's right.
And there is your yeah, there's your accent.
OK, there you go, folks.
If you want to get a hold of Captain James McCormick retired, that's the way to do it.
And that's a wrap for tonight.
I guess it's getting pretty late.
So thanks again.
Go to bed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would get a good rest.

(01:46:20):
See you tomorrow and if you meet the big guy, tell Chris from the whistle stop cafe and
Carrie from Chris and Carrie Show, say hello and good luck and Godspeed.
Yeah, I surely will take care.
All right.
Thanks.
Good night.
You know what, folks?
All paths lead to Alberta independence.

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