250128 Chris & Kerry & Jeffrey Rath

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crust.
Well, good evening, everybody.

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It's Chris here from the Whistle Stop Cafe in Mirror, Alberta, and I'm also the Chris in
the Chris and Kerry Show.
I was just reading this, Oh Canada, Canada and the World, Exploring Our Global Ties,
and it's really interesting, this magazine.
It's about, you know, Canada, what Canada stands for, what Canada is, what Canada is
all about, what the world cares about, about Canada.

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Just kidding.
Just kidding.
It's actually a National Geographic on the cannabis revolution.
And I think that's what Canada is about to the world right now.
That's the thing over the last 15 years is we legalize cannabis.
Not that I think that's a bad thing.
There's some pretty interesting things about cannabis.

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But now, unfortunately, the narrative has been taken over by, was it this?
Was it Russia?
No, it wasn't Russia.
It was, wait for it.
This is actually what I was reading.
I wasn't really reading the National Geographic.

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I only read the National Geographic for the pictures.
Where is it?
Where is he?
Come on.
This is important.
Every time we need this guy, we can't find him.
We went to Ottawa to talk to him.
He got fake COVID and went and hid.

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He decides he's going to say he's going to resign and then he goes and hides.
Here he is.
This guy, remember this guy?
That guy that sits like a real man.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, those are the two things that Canada is known for right now.

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And in addition to that, Canada is also known for having a tyrannical prime minister that
has trampled the rights and freedoms of his citizens.
Unreal.
We've seen it talked about in European Parliament.
We've seen it talked about all over the world.
It's an embarrassment.
Even worse are some of the more human stories about what's going on in this country.

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And a lot of those stem from the coerced uptake of a novel vaccine.
A lot of people were hurt.
A lot of people were injured.
And some people died.
Today, Carrie and I had the, I don't know if you'd say it was a pleasure, but we had

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the opportunity to attend some court matters where Rath and company, Jeff Rath and Avachipya,
Jeff Rath of course is my lawyer on the class action for businesses in Alberta.
They're representing Carrie Sakamoto regarding her vaccine injury in a class action lawsuit
for anybody that's been harmed by the COVID jabs.

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So Carrie and I decided it'd be a great idea to bring Jeff on the show today, especially
considering that the Davidson report, which I did a little podcast on a couple of days
ago, has just been released and the internet is all a buzz.
The media is going absolutely crazy saying, no, no, that stuff isn't right.
You know, that was all done right.
It was safe and effective.
Okay.

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Jeff has some other opinions and some real truth to share on that idea of safe and effective.
So without further ado, why don't we bring on, there's Jeff, is Carrie coming to or Carrie
you're going to hide?
Oh, I thought you got fake COVID for a second there.
I was going to send you some.
No, I was working on my dark darkness of my, my beard.

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Are you going to run for prime minister?
No, you missed a little chocolate pudding right there.
Hey Jeff, nice to see you again.
It's been a while.
Yeah.
Since this morning when we were both in court together on the vaccine class action lawsuit.
So that was, that was an interesting day.

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And I think for, by way of background for your, for your viewers and your listeners,
I think quite a few people are, you know, are familiar with some of the work that I've
been doing over the last five years battling COVID tyranny in the province of Alberta.
But just for people that don't know who I am, I'm the lead counsel, I was lead counsel
on the Ingram decision, which was the only case in Canada that succeeded in having, you

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know, all of the public health orders for a province that were presently before a court
declared to be illegal or ultra virus.
So for people that haven't been watching the show all the time or people that are tuning
in for the first time, some people are actually surprised when I tell them that every, that
we have a court ruling that indicates that every single COVID order issued by the great

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gazoo Dina Hinshaw during the course of the pandemic was illegal.
And that we have a court, that we have a court ruling to that effect.
And on the basis that all of these orders were determined by the court to be illegal,
we've also filed a business class action lawsuit of which my dear friend Christopher Scott

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and client is the, the class representative in the business class action lawsuit, where
we're seeking to recover damages against the province of Alberta based on the ruling in
the Ingram decision that found all of the lockdown orders to be patently illegal.
And as for those of you, of course, who followed the travails of Mr. Scott and the whistle

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stop cafe, you will all know that Mr. Scott was hauled away in handcuffs for properly
protesting what he knew to be illegal orders and was handcuffed and hauled away to the
Husqaw illegally because of the fact that he was, that the orders that had closed down
his business and destroyed his business and led to his business being padlocked and put

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in the care of the RCMP and AHS so that it could be broken into and gutted and robbed
and all of those lovely things that happened while his business was under the care of the
RCMP and AHS and Dina Hinshaw.
All of the orders that led to that were patently illegal, which the court at King's bench confirmed
in the, we now refer to it as Ingram one or the Ingram 19, or 2023 decision.

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So moving, moving forward, our office has also been retained by a lovely lady.
Her name is Carrie Sakamoto from Lethbridge, who unfortunately for Carrie and her family
followed Dr. Hinshaw's advice that you could mix and match vaccines.
And as a result has been horribly vaccine injured.

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The question of her injury being vaccine related isn't even an issue for litigation.
She's been recognized as having a bona fide vaccine injury by the government of Canada,
no less through the, you know, the vaccine injury compensation program.
But of course, you know, these governments, you know, negligently and otherwise force
people to get, you know, get injected.
But I don't like calling them vaccines because they're, you know, they're only a vaccine

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by definition of a bunch of skullduggery changing definitions of vaccines from what was normally
accepted to, you know, to what it is now.
I normally refer to them as injections or shots or drugs, but, and not vaccines because
I don't, I don't think that, I don't think properly that they are vaccines on the basis

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of the definitions that everybody's used to seeing, which is a single shot that provides
you robust immunity from a disease.
Well, obviously as anybody who got COVID Vaxxed once, twice, three or four times, and subsequently
had five or six cases of COVID knows, you know, these shots did not prevent anybody
from getting the vaccine, notwithstanding all the phony, you know, all the phony information

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that was being presented by Dina Hinshaw about 95% efficacy and all the rest of it, that
turned out to be completely untrue.
And of course, as we know, did not lead to Dina Hinshaw, AHS or any other pushers of
this product to advising the public that, hey, by the way, when we were initially pushing
these on you and telling you that they're 95% effective, well, the studies have come

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out now and showed us that we're drastically wrong and that they're probably not effective
at all.
Of course, none of that happened because heaven forbid that the truth ever be told in the
context of what's going on.
So which brings us now to, oh, there's one other issue, one other case that we're involved
with right now.
We've been retained by the Haas family to represent them with regard to a fatality inquiry

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involving one of our fellow citizens who suffered death by vaccine where, you know, he was injected
with the AstraZeneca vaccine, then the Pfizer vaccine, and then, you know, scant few months
later after a number of horrible complications, which included massive swelling of both of

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his legs, et cetera, died from what's been turned in the autopsy report capillary leak
syndrome.
So essentially he bled to death through his lungs brought to you by AstraZeneca and Pfizer.
So we're taking that issue forward in, you know, in a fatality inquiry in the provincial
court, which interestingly, of course, the government of Alberta tried to stop.

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They initially filed briefs in that case saying that, oh, well, you know, we should, this
fatality inquiry should be stayed because the Alberta vaccine reporting system is a
robust alternative forum that would have allowed for these matters to be considered.
And we're suggesting that the very fact that poor Mr. Haas's death was not reported through

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the vaccine reporting system meant that it wasn't a vaccine related death.
And they thought on that basis that the vaccine reporting system, or I'm sorry, the fatality
inquiry should be stayed.
So when we showed up in court and pointed out to Justice Mason that we were very happy
that Alberta was bringing their stay application on the basis of Alberta's robust vaccine

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reporting system.
And I informed the court that I had a number of doctors that were lined up to provide testimony
on how not only is the vaccine reporting system in Alberta not robust, but doctors are actively
discouraged from reporting vaccine injuries and that doctors are bullied both through
the College of Physicians and Surgeons and otherwise to not report things as vaccine

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injuries for fear of losing their medical licenses for instilling vaccine hesitancy
in the population of anti-vaxxers, I guess that'd be us.
So on that basis, the government wanted to stay this thing.
And I said, well, no, that's great.
I'm happy to have that argument, Justice Mason.
And we have all these witnesses lined up to come and testify to the fact that this isn't

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robust.
And if my friend is seriously seeking to put the Alberta vaccine reporting system on trial
in these proceedings, we're very happy to do it.
And we'll be ready to do that in a couple of weeks.
Just let's pull our witnesses together and we'll get going.
At which point, the very next day, a letter arrives from the government of Alberta, Department
of Alberta Justice Lawyers, we put justice in quotes, of course, advising us that they've

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now reconsidered their position on the stay to avoid it, they didn't say to avoid any
arguments over the vaccine reporting system, but on the basis that the family wanted to
proceed forward out of the goodness of their hearts, they're allowing the inquiry to go
forward without us having to waste anybody's time or pretty great judicial head, considering

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the extent to which the vaccine reporting system in Alberta is the biggest scam going
that allows governments to pretend that the vaccine injuries in Alberta are literally
a microscopic spec of the total in this province.
So all of the misinformationists of the ilk of Timothy Caulfield, Demi Hinshaw and otherwise

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can all claim that the vaccines are safe and effective.
So anyway, we're gonna remember, sorry, Timothy Caulfield got paid like $348,000 to say those
things so they must be true.
Well, Andy got an order of Canada.
So that must make it like doubly true that Justin Trudeau thought so much of them, they
gave him a shiny little metal, right?

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You know, for calling the rest of us liars and misinformationists and anti-vaxxers and
the latest screed from the brilliant Mr. Caulfield in response to the COVID-19 pandemic response
task force final report and recommendations is that it will bring Alberta back to the

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dark ages.
This will be the end of civilization as we know it.
And yeah, medical opinion, I'm sure.
No, no, that's his legal opinion.
He's a lawyer.
He's not a doctor.
Everybody needs to remember that, right?
He teaches.
No, no.
He's teaching in the law school.
He's a lawyer.
And then they shuffle them over to the medical school because he's so good at chasing down
COVID cash for people that he's now involved in some sort of health sciences-ish related

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ongoing money grab to continually fund running around accusing other people of misinformation
and all of the other things that he does.
So-
Well, I thought for sure he must have a very vast background in medicine because he was
tasked with seeking out misinformation relating to COVID and the vaccine online and dealing

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with it.
No, and not only does he not have a background in medicine, but when one of the most respected
educational institutions in the world, specifically Stanford University, convened a symposium
inviting people on both sides of the COVID trenches to come in and affect you.

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And after an after action hot wash on all of the things that we learned through the
pandemic and so on that we could do better the next time, like not locking healthy people
up, like not forcing people to get vaccinated with an experimental drug against their will,
all those types of things that people might want to discuss after such a horrific period

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in all of our lives.
Mr. Caulfield refused to attend.
Oh, and they also invited Dr. Fisman of Fisman Fraud Frame from Ontario to attend at the
Stanford Symposium.
And of course, they and all of the other misinformationists on the pro-MRNA vaccinate people to death

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side refused to attend the symposium on the basis that they wouldn't attend a symposium
with charlatans like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya who's now the-
Oh yeah, that kind of DNA age.
That notorious charlatan Jay Bhattacharya with multiple PhDs, master's in public health
from Harvard, you know, a professional ships across two faculties, both medicine and economics

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at Stanford, you know, that famous charlatan Jay Bhattacharya, they didn't want to share
a stage with people of that ilk, lest their pristine reputations for truth and goodness
be sully by appearing on such a stage at Stanford University.
Of course, we all suspect the reason that they didn't go is that they didn't want to

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be exposed for what they are in front of the world's leading academics.
But you know, that's a matter for debate and something-
That's because they know that the truth stands regardless of what people say or the statements
they make.
Oh no, come on, don't-
If they had them come on and talk to them, then that would show, right?

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I thought we did science by consensus now, Chris.
Oh yes, I remember hearing that.
Isn't it if we get 10 or 15 of our friends, we're all getting money from Pfizer and we
could all sit in a room together and at least we have one or two people from different countries,
we can call it an international consensus, that's overwhelming, right?
And we can disregard the thousands and thousands of scientists that signed the Great Barrington

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Declaration and all the rest of it.
Because oh, heaven forbid, if anybody is so foolish as to disagree with us, they can't
be part of the consensus.
It's almost like they don't know the meaning of the word consensus, but I could be wrong.
I'm just a humble barrister and I'm not an English major, but I'm pretty sure that if

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you could show the tens of thousands of leading scientists and Nobel Prize winners and the
rest of it don't agree with your so-called science, that it's a pretty robust claim to
say that it's a consensus.
But that's just the, what do I know?
I should have remembered that because a global news journalist just trashed the Davidson
report saying, oh, it goes against the consensus and there's a consensus on this, consensus

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this, consensus that.
Nobody ignored the thousands of man hours that the people that contributed to that report
put in, ignored the decades of experience in relevant fields that the contributors put
in and all it was was no, the government said this and that was the consensus, so these
guys must be wrong.

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But that brings up another point.
Now Richard here, I actually like this guy because he brings up a really good point.
He says, just like you clowns are doctors.
Now Richard, you're correct.
I'm not a doctor and sometimes I'm a bit of a clown.
I'll admit that.
I enjoy humour, but this clown also pays attention and I actually have done everything I could,

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everything I could over this period of time to talk to people that had opposing views
and their information and facts are sound.
So this is a great segue into the reason why we want to talk Jeff tonight, which was the
Davidson report.
I'm sure you have you read the whole thing yet.
They're doctors by the way, the people that contribute.

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Yeah and I guess, you know, Richard, unless you, unless you missed it at the beginning
or maybe weren't paying attention, I'm not a doctor.
I'm a lawyer and I don't purport to be a doctor or don't purport to give medical advice.
All I'm doing tonight is actually talking to people about some court cases that I'm
involved in and to provide our fellow citizens an update on what we're doing and talking

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to people about things that they need to be paying attention to on a going forward basis
that are coming out of a report that's actually written by a whole bunch of doctors.
So, you know, I think, I think I can, you know, I think I'm capable of quoting directly
from a document or putting up a page of information that was written by doctors without anybody

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accusing me of trying to practice medicine with a license.
But thanks for your thought in any event.
Yeah and I can, I can read.
So I've read this and you know, it's, it's pretty robust.
It's pretty, it's just data.
It's not coming to conclusions about what we should do about anything.
It's just like, this is what happened.
This is how it happened.
This is what we could improve.

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That's it.
But speaking of doctors, I'm actually glad that Richard brought that point up.
While we're speaking about doctors, let, can we, do you mind if I can talk a little bit
about one of my, the most interesting conclusions that can be drawn from the Davidson report
in the context of Dr. Dina Hinshaw reporting to provide Albertans medical advice.

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Can I talk about that right now, Chris?
Absolutely.
You mean, are you talking about the same Dina Hinshaw that has a huge amount of medical
experience and spends so much time in the field in all of these relevant studies or
the Dina Hinshaw that had a couple of years as a MD and then went into bureaucracy?
I think it's the latter one, but I don't really want to cast dispersions on her credentials

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or otherwise.
But one of the things though, that I was really interested in was that all of us, I think
repeatedly throughout the pandemic heard Dr. Hinshaw repeatedly say that it's a good idea
to mix and match the vaccines.
Yes.
And in fact, that's how Carrie was horribly injured and we quite strongly suspect, we

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quite strongly suspect that's what led to the death of Mr. Haas.
And the reason that we say that is of course, we have somebody that's telling people to
mix and match vaccines, but what Dr. Hinshaw apparently didn't know, because maybe it wasn't
shared with her by her good friend, Theresa Tam on their weekly zoom meetings of the chief

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medical officers of health of Canada committee chaired by Dr. Bonnie Henry, where they'd
all get together every week and figure out how to fight back a vaccine injury.
One would have thought that maybe at one of those meetings, Theresa Tam could have said,
hey, Dina, X-Nay on the X-Nay of the vaccines, right, because Pfizer actually says in its

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contract with Canada that mixing vaccines is bad and that Pfizer doesn't recommend that
anybody mix their vaccine with anybody else's because no safety tests have been done on
this anywhere.
And that's what the vaccine contract says.
So maybe you should be quiet about mixing vaccines.
So I don't think that conversation happened between Theresa Tam and Dina Hinshaw because

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the vaccine contracts, as we've set out in court documents, the Canada vaccine contracts,
the portions of it that are in the public sphere that haven't been completely redacted
by Canada because they don't want Canadians to know the full extent of the truth of what
they did to us.
The unredacted portions that we've been able to get our hands on and quote in court pleadings

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state clearly that the vaccine, the Pfizer vaccine is not warranted for safety or safe
use, that it was rushed to market under emergency conditions, that Canada itself accepts all
liability for anybody horribly maimed or injured by the vaccine, and that Pfizer specifically

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warned against mixing the vaccine, the Pfizer vaccine, with any other vaccine.
So apparently Dr. Hinshaw didn't get that memo when she sent out a tweet that I sent
to you this afternoon.
Do you have that to put up on the screen, Chris, just so that friends of ours that think
that I'm making this up would know that I'm not making this up?
We'll put it up.
But there was no time for that conversation, Jeff.

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Like he was too busy fighting heteronormativity, I think.
Oh, well, I'm not going to comment on people's, what they do in their spare time.
It's really none of my business.
So initially, is this the one?
I know it's the second part to this, but it's the second one.
No, no, no, no, not that one.
We'll come back to that one because I think it's really laughable that the AMA is worried

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about misinformation.
From what I see from that bottom tweet that says both Pfizer and Moderna or mRNA vaccines,
sounds like the start of a Kamala Harris speech, right?
All circles are round.
They're not identical.
AI is artificial intelligence.
That's right.
They're not identical, but extremely similar, and it's perfectly okay to get one dose of

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each.
In fact, that there is some evidence that suggests this may actually boost your immune
response.
So it's pretty clear that from that, that Dr. Hinshaw, I'll put doctor in quotes, was
advising Albertans that they should mix and match at least the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
They certainly, with the first shot as the best shot campaign, were telling people if

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they had an AstraZeneca vaccine and then it was discontinued, they maybe shouldn't have
any more shots until studies come out to discuss the degree to which you might die from mixing
AstraZeneca with Pfizer or Moderna, but none of that happened, of course.
Yeah, it would have been nice to know if there was some science, like when people are throwing

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around words like anti-science and anti-evidence and misinformation.
I mean, it would have been nice if Dr. Hinshaw could have cited some science to back that
statement up.
But what's really interesting is, so, you know, we have this statement from Dr. Hinshaw
and then what we have now is we have the COVID report that came out, oh, there we go.

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There's my camera.
You know, that came out in a document dump Friday afternoon at 3 o'clock that has a whole
chapter on vaccines and vaccine harms.
And specifically, and this is something that your readers, I think as a public service,
need to be aware of, in Appendix 6 of that report, so if you go to the vaccine chapter,

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it's Chapter 8, and then you skip through the appendices to Appendix 6.
It's a two-page appendix.
Okay.
There we go.
Chapter 8.
You're going to go right to the end of the appendices and it's Appendix 6.
So what that Appendix confirms is, or Appendix 6 confirms, is that surprise, surprise, we

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shouldn't mix and match vaccines because it may kill people.
And specifically, what I'm referring to in that regard is a paragraph in Appendix 6 that
states specifically, and I'll read it while you're finding it because I think you're getting

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close, states specifically at the top of the page, Appendix 6, there's a well-documented
link between mRNA COVID vaccines and myocarditis in males 12 to 24 years old.
Northland countries have restricted the use of vaccines in children, referencing a large
Nordic population-based study, which shows that the 28-day risk of inpatient myocarditis

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was higher in vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated.
For males 16 to 24 years, the risk of myocarditis was five times higher.
So if parents got their kid to take two Pfizer shots, the risk of those kids contracting
myocarditis, which can be a fatal, life-changing disease, was five times, so 500% greater if

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you just had two Pfizer's.
If you had two Moderna's, your risk was 1,200%, like was 14 times higher, so 1,400% higher.
And then importantly, if you had a dose of Pfizer followed by Moderna, right, the risk

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of myocarditis was 36 times higher.
So people don't have to take my word for it.
It's, I think it's the page previous to that page.
Right after.
Yeah.
I found, yeah.
No, it's right before that page.
Oh, is it?
That's the table that accompanies it.
It's the paragraph.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no.

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Left.
A little bit.
No, no, that's it.
Keep going on the right page.
Stop.
Okay.
No doubt.
So, so people don't down a bit more on the page.
Whoever's scrolling other way, other other down.
We're definitely not doctors.
There you go.
So anyway, so for people that don't want to take me at my word, right.

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That's what the report says.
And then the next page actually and that's the page with the nice little charts and graphs
on it includes the nice little charts and graphs from that Nordic study that you know
wasn't misinformation it wasn't anti-science it wasn't anti-evidence this was a study that

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was published in what's called known in the trade as JAMA or the Journal of the American
Medical Association an extremely well-reputed peer-reviewed publication right that's the
science as opposed to this robust international consensus and you know and while we're talking

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about robust international to you know consensus consensus so on what basis if a hundred scientists
are wrong and one scientist is right shouldn't the one scientist whose right prevail and
isn't that science like you know I'm sure I'm supposed to we're supposed to burn them

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at the stake then I think.
Well I'm not sure I think you know I think I could go to any you know symposium anywhere
in the world and find enough drunken scientists that you know to agree with me in a state
of inebriation that you know that yeah though yeah the water you know the water actually
boils at 50 degrees centigrade instead of a hundred degrees centigrade at sea level

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it's all just you know it's all relative and it depends on you know how you look at you
know what you know you know what boiling means and what centigrade is and all those types
of things right so I'm sure that you know if you put enough money on the table you can
find enough scientists to develop a consensus around that but I'm sure that the one guy
say well now I'm pretty sure here I can take a beaker I can put it on a Bunsen burner I

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can put a thermometer in it I can replicate my results you know it's kind of like you
know the scientific method you know that thing that nobody wants to talk about anymore right
you know and I'm pretty sure that that one person who said that water boils at 100 degrees
Celsius at sea level would probably be right as opposed to you know the people that thought
otherwise right but I'm not a scientist either.

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Put that back up for just one second Kerry.
Let's not point something out, scroll up to the text so we'll go backwards in the document.
Folks if you have a look at these notes here you'll see little numbers at the end of the
sentences for example the first one that starts in Nordic countries has a 292 that's a citation
so at the end of this document all of those numbers have an accompanying.
Footnote.

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Data entry a footnote so what what this report did is it looked at primary data not something
that somebody told something it was primary data from a specific study on that thing and
then they included that data in the report so you can read that and if you believe like

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the global journalists that this report is junk or whatever then she's going to have
to go to all of these footnotes and go through all of those and maybe send them all emails
to say that their studies are wrong because that's what Dr. Davidson and you know at Al
did in this document is they just reviewed the data and put it to the government of Alberta
to say look here's the data do what you want with it.

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So could we go back to that that Appendix 6 page that we were on there's something there's
something else that I wanted to point out yeah unfortunately once you download this
document I've got to talk I'm going to talk to somebody in the Alberta government and
get them to fix the glitch but once you download the document the page number is no longer
appear on it so my copy doesn't have page numbers on it because I don't have the footnote

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with the page numbers on it so it's I'm kind of having to flip back and forth and put sticky
notes on things but anyway.
Jeff, Kerry said he's going to narrate this to audiobook so that it's easier.
Yeah it'll put people to sleep right.
Oh that's awesome I would buy that audiobook Kerry to have you read me to sleep from the
COVID task force.

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Right yeah that's right so on a complete on a complete aside I know this is off topic
for tonight but did anybody else just about die laughing keep going your appendix one
now but die laughing the other day when some reporter foolishly asked Pierre Poliev what
he thought about Donald Trump considering there were two genders and when Poliev replied

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to him like the reporter was four and he says like almost like well little Johnny I think
there's two genders there's a boy and a girl how many genders do you think there are could
you name them?
I mean that's one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks but anyway.

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It's funny but it's also terrifying because Jeff did you ever think in your adult life
that you would we would have a time where the president of the United States had to
declare that there are two genders like was that something ever on your radar?
Never saw it coming.
What kind of world do we live in?

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Well okay but hang on sorry I didn't mean to digress but let's get back to let me tell
you what other kind of world we live in so let's go down from appendix on the same page
appendix six so scroll up okay stop where it says a US Lancet published study assessing
the long-term health quality of life effects of adolescents and young adults diagnosed

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with myocarditis following vaccination found that they were unable to complete their usual
activities 21% had pain 20% and had high anxiety or depression 46% in 90 days following diagnosis
okay so that's for parents who were told that you know these vaccines are good for kids.

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Now the other one and this one's gonna be a bit problematic because I do not have page
numbers on my document but there's another paragraph that I'd like you to find and if
it helps you find it in my book it's two pages after this chart.
Just tell me a phrase on it probably you're gonna find it that way.

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Oh okay even better search the word surveillance that probably comes up too many places oh
here's here's here's one because it probably isn't used in a lot of places this is a strange

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abbreviation so I type in myo forward slash p e r i c a r d i t i s myo slash pericarditis
slash or dash no slash forward slash pericarditis no it doesn't show up on okay well it's in

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the vaccine chapter but anyway we can try to find it together you know page by page
it's after this is so this is the Cleveland the Cleveland clinic graph right if you can
find the Cleveland just scroll through chapter 8 and find the Cleveland clinic graph and
then it's three pages after that so you know you're doing that it's interesting that the

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report mentions the anxiety and depression so currently in the United States the new
administration is they're on a camp they're on a crusade okay go investigate the link
between neurological issues and childhood vaccines okay well let me read this one to
you because this is this is from a paper another paper published in Lancet and says there's

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a well-documented link between mr and a COVID-19 vaccines and myocarditis in males 12 to 29
years old a follow-up surveillance paper published in the Lancet on myocarditis in vaccinated
12 to 29 year olds this time demonstrated an abnormal or abnormality on cardiac MRI

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in 81 of 151 patients so more than 51% of patients in this Lancet study right that they
just randomly pick vaccinated people to look at right more than 51% of them had detectable
abnormalities on a cardiac MRI I'm there now okay two pages on from that now and I'm told

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for I'm told from my doctor friends of mine that that's a really bad thing right there
we go that's the paragraph so then it goes on to say the same study revealed that 32%
of patients so this is young man 20 you know 12 to 29 years old revealed that 32% of these

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patients were not cleared for physical activity and 26% were still on daily medications those
would be cardiac medications at least 90 days post diagnosis so let's think about that for
a minute and how much myocarditis denial is going on in Canada like and I think we looked
at it earlier in in in Appendix 6 where you know an Ontario study found one in 51 hundred

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and thirty nine male adolescents will get myocarditis but a Thai study found 71% and
this Lancet study found over 51% right so you know we have to and I'm aware of it it's not
I don't think it's referenced in this report but I'm also aware of an Alberta study that
found myocarditis in one in two thousand in one and two thousand in Alberta following

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the shots right so you know all of this stuff that we've been fed by the federal government
about we get a million blah blah doses and like so old minuscule major events and you
know even even if we kill 10,000 people compared to the hundred million blah blah blah that's

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zero point zero zero blah blah blah blah whatever right well these studies don't bear that
out I mean myocarditis rates of 50% you know I've spoken to doctors in this province who
have told me that they're literally seeing heart attacks in children under the age of
15 and that they've got cases of you know myocarditis cases in their office where you

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know privately they have advised me that they don't think these kids are going to live for
more than another five years right so you know we've got this and again it just it just
underlines what Peter McCullough has been warning everybody about from day one which
is these so-called vaccines are really cardio toxic injections right that are literally

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killing the hearts of children in our country right so let's let's everybody just absorb
that for a second and think about how bloody angry every parent should be that was told
that the vaccines were safe and effective for their kids and who were not specifically
warned by Dina Hinshaw you know Dina Hinshaw, Verna Yu, Jason Kenney, Teresa Tam you know

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any Justin Trudeau any of these people mandating people to get shots or telling parents that
you know their kids aren't going to be able to go play hockey unless they get a shot or
forcing university kids you know to get shots in order to go to classes and train for collegiate
sports you know all of those things that happened right oh yeah let's pump these really active
healthy young adults full of cardio toxins right and see what we get and again you know

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I don't know if any of you guys saw it was a pretty pretty stupid on my part to go on
the Ryan Jesperson show but I did that one day just out of interest and tried to speak
to a broader audience and I was telling you know telling Jesperson about you know this
is an anecdote of course but anecdotal evidence is still evidence I was I was speaking to

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one of the young women who works at my golf club this summer who's a collegiate hockey
player at the University of Calgary and she told me that she now has to go and get myocarditis
exams every 90 days right because three because of the vaccine vaccines that she took and
that get this three of her 20-something year old colleagues on her hockey team have now

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been told by their physicians that they can no longer play collegiate level sports because
their hearts have been damaged so badly with myocarditis.
So much for mild myocarditis it's only mild oh don't worry about myocarditis it's mild
myocarditis you know whatever right so you know which is again you want to talk about
misinformation and disinformation if the AMA is so concerned about that why aren't they

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you know why aren't they going after you know Dr. Hinshaw for misinformation and disinformation
when the words mild myocarditis could trip so lovingly from her lips right I mean that's
a you know that's a question for all of them you know like all you know all of the all
of the probax propagandists you know oh myocarditis yeah don't worry about it sure half of the

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people get it but it's mild it's just mild potentially fatal heart disease right it gets
worse though it gets worse Jeff like this it's one thing if the shot that caused the
mild myocarditis was saving the part the planet saving the world read the last sentence in

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that paragraph the very last sentence oh which page are we on now are we on the offended
oh yeah Mary's myocarditis could be a very serious long-term health issue according
to Alexander and co-workers 20-year study of 170 children with back back this part the
relative risk of the first dose maybe more than six times the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization

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so they're literally sacrificing young people for no reason like they didn't need it in
the first place we always said that kids were never going to die from COVID and again I've
you know I've raised the issue you know and I've called for a police investigation into
fraud with regard to table 14 of the Pfizer emergency use authorization and I think some

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of you heard me talk about it before but that in that table the Pfizer used to get their
emergency youth authorization they posited that as many as one child per million could
potentially die from COVID we know the numbers actually much lower now right so it's less
than one child per million may have died from COVID right so but then they say but we do

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acknowledge that the that the the COVID the Pfizer vaccine will result in you know so
many hospitalizations and at least 34 ICU admissions of children who get the vaccine
and then so they're gonna put 34 kids in the ICU on a ventilator and then if you go to

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the end of the table and this is where I say the fraud comes in they it says number of
children potentially killed by the vaccine basically is the table like every the exact
way the table zero zero zero zero zero zero zero right so you talk to any pediatric specialist
or any ICU specialist and maybe some of these people that run around calling us misinformationist

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might in fact be pediatric ICU specialist I'd like to know but unlike one of those people
who accuses us of misinformation to tell me statistically when you put 34 kids on a vent
how many of them are gonna die and I suspect the number is higher than zero and I've actually
heard from experts who are you know experts in pediatric ICU that the real number is probably

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closer to 20% you know of kids that go on to a vent with myocarditis severe enough to
have them ventilated are likely never going to come off the vent and are going to die
so you know what's that what's that number right on 30 you know on 34 it's approximately
six or seven I think but you know so you know at the very least they were going to kill

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six or seven kids per million with myocarditis but here's the rub the only number because
the number of covid deaths per million in children was so low and they put one notionally
in the you know in that column right any number greater than zero right would mean that the
vaccine wouldn't get approved for children because if it was if they acknowledged it

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be even one death per million in children from the covid vaccine the benefit of the
vaccine would not exceed the harm you know the harm that they're trying to ameliorate
which was covid so any number of deaths more than zero right it from the vaccine would
would lead to the vaccine not being approved we also know that Pfizer scrubbed there was

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one girl in the original trial that developed transverse myelitis and died she was scrubbed
from the study and they tried to erase her data we also know that good old-fashioned
anaphylactic shock and anaphylaxis kills people but you know it was remarkable in the Pfizer
you know this is how many kids are going to die from covid how many kids are going to

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die from Pfizer the only cause of death that Pfizer considered to be relevant was myocarditis
so they must have thought that that was the you know the greatest risk right but no transverse
myelitis no capillary leach syndrome no anaphylaxis you know all these other things that we know

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you know kill people in the context of vaccines all conveniently omitted from table 14 in
order to get the drug approved in children and I think some of you may or may not know
I personally wrote to Teresa Tam I personally wrote to Dena Hinshaw I attached a copy of
table 14 I advised them of the you know that the fact that the table on its face appeared

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to be fraudulent and that they needed to take a really hard second look at Pfizer's data
before they approved those vaccines for use in kids needless to say I was ignored a doesn't
I haven't been able to ascertain whether any investigation whatsoever was ever undertaken

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by Alberta Health AHS Dena Hinshaw Teresa Tam anybody in fact with regard to table 14
and we know the results we now have a childhood we had a childhood vaccine rollout and we
literally potentially have thousands of children in Alberta one estimate I heard from a physician

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in the province as many as two thousand kids in Alberta that are cardiac cripples that
may have less than five years less left to live because nobody told their parents look
we can give you this shot we don't have enough safety data on it to really recommend it for
kids but if you're really paranoid and really insist that you know that your kid gets this

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shot from the standpoint of informed consent you just need to know this one thing right
and the one thing is this vaccine will kill more people that more children than COVID
okay so parent that's the fact right now do you still want me to give your kids oh and
then by the way we also have information that as many as 50% of children could in fact develop

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you know crippling myocarditis and there's some other little associated things but you
know whatever you know what would you still give your kid the shot if any parent any sane
parent was given that information which parent would have given their child that shot not
one you know what I disagree with you on that one because I think there is so much misinformation

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out there that even if you told them that showed them charts pulled them all these doctors
were doing it they would still go no it's safe enough.
No but that's the whole point right the point is that our so-called public health officials
that were supposed to be protecting the public right shouldn't have been engaged in an exercise

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fighting vaccine hesitancy where any you know any countervailing argument was labeled as
anti-vax lunacy conspiracy theory bullshit and you need to listen to us because we're
the health professionals right listen to us Dean Hinshaw how many times you say I am your
doctor I am the doctor for everybody in Alberta okay well let's go back to that and let's

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go back now to what I was telling you guys about Dean Hinshaw's recommending that everybody
get oh well we're actually I'm going to come back to that in one second the other one I
want to touch on as well because it shocked me I get it absolutely shocked me I can't
say it shocked my conscience because I've been fighting in the trenches for five years

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trying to stop all of this garbage and have was not ever involved in recommending that
any pregnant woman get vaccinated with a COVID shot thank God for the common sense of lawyers
as opposed to so-called doctors right but what we find in the vaccine in the in the
vaccine chapter of that report is that there is a section that deals with pregnancy and

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it's sort of against a little bit because it's coming directly it's coming directly
from Pfizer's own data again so if people want to accuse people of misinformation or
disinformation or whatever you know just know that the information that I'm citing comes
directly from Pfizer so if you're accusing Pfizer of misinformation or disinformation

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then I think we have a problem of an entirely different order of magnitude because I think
if everybody on the you know Timothy Caulfield vaccine propaganda side you know wants to
acknowledge that Pfizer was guilty of spreading misinformation and that we're quoting Pfizer
generated misinformation on this program well then you know I'll happily acknowledge that

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Pfizer you know is lying and they made up numbers about how many miscarriages they caused
in women in their vaccine trial who weren't necessarily pregnant at the start of the trial
because they wouldn't let pregnant women in but who got pregnant during the trial and
then when Pfizer reported the outcomes of those pregnancies and again if you can find

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the page and I apologize that we're taking our time oh yeah just so that's the page you're
going to start on it's that table it's in the back yeah it's in the it's in the vaccine
chapter but let me read on so our friends at home that are watching aren't waiting too
long so anyway what Pfizer found was that you know first of all according I'm going

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to read the entire quote so that this is this is the task force quoting a report of Dr.
Pierre Corrie's analyzing the Pfizer trial data and pregnant women and quoting Dr. Corrie
quoting Pfizer data that's that's the page now move down a little bit I think yeah table
one okay there we go starting there so in August of 2022 Dr. Pierre Corrie MD MPA published

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his analysis of the Pfizer trial data concerning pregnant women Dr. Corrie found that according
to Pfizer quote cumulative analysis of post authorization adverse events report section
5.3.6 on page 12 270 pregnancies were reported during the trial of these 238 had no outcome

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attached to them and then Corrie says no explanation in this document for the lack of reporting
did they lose the chart the remaining 32 had the following results and keep in mind I'm
sure if those 238 charts that were lost had an outcome right it would have been reported

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because this is what was reported and this is shocking.
So out of the 32 charts that Pfizer reference the pregnant women in their trial 32 so 23
had spontaneous abortions two spontaneous abortions with interuterine death two premature
births with associated neonatal death one spontaneous abortion with neonatal death and

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out of 32 cases only one normal pregnancy outcome so just doing the math on that you
know like 31 you know 31 30 seconds right you know so the abortion rate oh oh hang on
did we lose you am I there okay I just had something flashed up saying lost network connection

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so anyway maybe Pfizer's cutting in so so anyway so so in other words 31 out of 32 spontaneous
abortions or spontaneous abortion with neonatal deaths right so that's 96.875 percent.

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Abortion or miscarriage rate in the women that Pfizer actually reported on who were
pregnant in their trial yet again how many times and this was in the trial data so that
was there for Dina Hinshaw to read that was there for Teresa Tam to read you know they're
all on the same you know anti-vaccine hesitancy committees every week talking about how to

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you know get people to not hesitate to get the vaccine and oh those pregnant women they're
going to be pesky because those pregnant women who carry babies in their bellies they really
care about that baby and want it to be healthy and they take vitamins and stuff and they
you know they want to do the best they can with their baby to have the healthiest baby
possible so what are we going to tell those women to get them to take the shot I know

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let's ignore the Pfizer trial data that shows a 96.875 percent spontaneous abortion rate
and tell pregnant women that it's safe and effective for pregnant women to get the shot
and that they're a greater risk for the greater risk for the babies is to get the is to get
COVID rather than get the COVID shot so let's tell them that but while we're telling them

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that let's not tell them that if they get the COVID shot they can still get COVID right
this is what was going on like you can't make you can't make this stuff you cannot make
this up right and this is like this is all the while okay well Dena Hinshaw is standing
up in front of the province pretending to tell pregnant women and parents of children

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who are not vulnerable from COVID really in any way right that oh yeah you got to get
the shot because like if you don't get the shot the repercussions are so serious and
blah blah blah blah and the science the science says that you need to do this blah blah blah
and of course what we see now like from Pfizer's own data in both of the instances I walked
you through right none of the things that Dena Hinshaw said were true right so she wasn't

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dispensing medical advice she was the medical equivalent of Mary Curie standing up and saying
hey kids it's okay to play with uranium I did it right I mean that's fine nothing bad
can come from that right and then the other one that I you know the other analogy that
I thought of when you think about this oh yeah you know mix and match the vaccines the more

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different vaccines you have the better like at that point if you have and there's no studies
on this there's no science on that all of that right the drug manufacturers themselves
strongly recommend it say it's contrary indicated to mix and match their vaccines right but
there she is spewing this stuff to the public like she's the ASL translator at Nelson Mantel's

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funeral like yes these are safe and effective and you know they won't kill your babies you
know like this is what we're dealing with I mean it's a level of medical negligence
and gross incompetence that would have had any other doctors license pulled by the College

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of Physicians and Surgeons like how can somebody live with themselves you know having made
the statements that were made as Alberta's doctor yet refused to come forward and take
responsibility for what you did and acknowledge that the information that you are providing
throughout the pandemic was anti-scientific not based on any science studies and just

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like that ASL interpreter at Nelson Mandela's funeral you were just making it up as you
went along.
I mean that's what we're dealing with it's shocking like I'm flabbergasted like I've
been spending the entire day just trying to wrap my head around you know this concept
because it's to me it just it's completely mind-blowing that this is what we're that

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this is what we're dealing with and what's even worse so you know to my way of thinking
is that there has been not this table this report has been on the Alberta government
desk for you know desk I understand from statements made by the premier for months.
So you know like you know why you know when this report came out why wasn't this report

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immediately I'm sure it may well have been gone immediately to our chief medical officer
of health Dr. Joffy so the Dr. Joffy could go oh my god this is really bad we were this
is really bad we were really bad I better tell people immediately and tell pregnant
women immediately to stop taking the shots until we can study this properly and figure

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out how many babies we killed during the pandemic with the with the shots like for real and
then oh my god you know we better stop all of these childhood vaccines or at the very
least tell people that you know all of Dr. Himshaw's guidance about mixing and matching
the vaccines is wrong right and that anybody who still is getting boosted I understand

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that at least 90 you know what 94% or 93% of Albertans now are anti-vaxxers because there's
only like you know between 5 and 7% of Albertans that are still getting boosters so for all
of y'all that have joined us welcome but you know for the 5 or 7% or whatever it is of
people that are still getting boosters you know shouldn't there be a direction going

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out to the through the College of Pharmacy from the Alberta government telling every
pharmacist to make sure when people come in for their boosters that they're not mixing
and matching them like I stopped today I was so shocked by this today you know that you
know and absorbing this while I was in court arguing over other stuff but that I literally
stopped it you know at my pharmacy on the way home because I have a pharmacist who's

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you know has way more degrees than he needs to pump pills out of the back of a pharmacy
but very well-educated guy really you know you know follows what's going on you know
pharmacologically and whatever and I asked him I told him specifically or asked him specifically
whether he was aware of the JAMA study right that said that you shouldn't be mixing the

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Pfizer vaccine with the with the Moderna vaccine because it will increase the risk of myocarditis
36 times or 3600% he said no that's for real I said yeah I said I'll give you the article
but you need to read it because the people are coming in and you don't know their medical

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history and know what their last booster was this whole idea that whatever ones you have
on the shelf if you happen to be out of Pfizer it's okay to give Moderna and vice versa and
that people don't care anymore because Dean Ahenshaw has told them in American Sign Language
that they say that makes it match the vaccines and it's good for you right those people could

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suffer serious repercussions I mean for those of us that are still drinking the Kool-Aid
and getting the shots so but where's the Alberta government telling pharmacists and pharmacies
that this is dangerous and they need to stop doing it and my sense of it what go ahead.
David We have a big very very big problem right now
because this report was actually presented to caucus on when last Wednesday they all

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know every one of them knows the information is out there the studies are out there like
any professional in the medical field can look at this report and and go to the citations
and and read it themselves they know so now if it continues now what what does that mean
Joe?
Well that's you know I mean I think that well I mean that's one of the reasons we have this

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vaccine class action lawsuit going forward in front of you know in the court but I would
far rather that my fellow citizens children aren't put at risk of death and my fellow
citizens who are still getting the shots because they still believe you know the propaganda
that they were sold aren't put at risk of death you know and I think that you know this

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information needs to get out there and I would far rather see the information you get out
there and have the government entirely discontinue the shots then I have a whole bunch of new
plaintiffs that are you know living with half of a functional heart yeah which is you know
which is what's going on and it's completely unconscionable that anybody in the Alberta

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government doesn't see this report of Gary Davidson's as a fire alarm having been pulled
and that they need to evacuate the building and then once they get to their points of
you know what the organizational points after the fire alarm has been pulled everybody from
the scientific advisory group and all of those people in a chest that are now outside and

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neat little files on the lawn you know can all be separated from the herd and fired right
before we then let all the adults go back into the building and figure out what we're
going to do to fix this mess that all of the people who've been involved in calling the
rest of us disinformationists and all of the other names that they call us will spewing
out the word safe and effective ad nauseam telling pregnant women to get vaccinated encouraging

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parents to give their kids myocarditis all of that right you know maybe all of those
people need to be sorted out and fired you know hold them up from under you know I know
we can't have a fire drill but I really do think this report is a fire alarm you know
find all the deaths that those people are hiding under and haul them out by their ears
and show them the door so that people that actually care about medical ethics that actually

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care about informed consent that actually care about the health of their fellow Albertans
are put in charge of what's going on and everybody you know that has been involved in the cover-up
and perpetuating the cover-up including everyone at the College of Physicians and Surgeons
that chapter alone in this report you know is recommended reading for everybody in this

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province to understand the degree you know the degree to which the propagandists in AHS
and Alberta Health coming from Dena Hinshaw on down we're basically utilizing you know
the College of Physicians and Surgeons as their anti-vaccine hesitancy enforcement arm right

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and instead of the college stepping back as a you know as a neutral regulator you know
telling doctors how to prescribe medicines and what medicines they can't prescribe or
what advice they can't give and all the rest of it if the college had just stayed the hell
out of it we probably wouldn't have as many injured children today but you know there's
a huge amount of culpability that lies with the college and what I would I consider this

(01:04:59):
report details as the complete corruption of the College of Physicians and Surgeons
you know needs to be taken into account and you know the College of Physicians and Surgeons
needs you know needs to be you know it needs to be taken out under the and there's a mechanism
to do it under the Public Health Act the you know the Minister of Health has the authority

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on 60 days notice to the college to basically shut them down and take over health regulation
in the province but you know following a 60 day period of consultation so for maybe 60
days the Minister of Health should lock them all in a room and make them read this report
a hundred times.
That would be a good idea yeah I agree with that.
This gets even grosser though and it just occurred to me all these issues that are

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going to arise from this and you've mentioned there's a bunch of kids gonna need hearts
in 30 or 40 years well guess what?
Where are you gonna get the healthy where are you gonna get the health where you get
the healthy hearts?
Don't worry Jeff they're printing them within 20 to 30 years we're gonna have 3D printed
viable hearts available for transplant at a significant cost to the taxpayer all of
the treatments for all of these diseases all the money for that goes to the same people

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that did this to us in the first place that's how absolutely sickening this is.
It's gross.
Jeff can we actually talk a little bit about the the process that's happening with the
class action right now because I know that's what a lot of people came on here to to find
out I think a lot of people know or at least have a good inkling of what happened with

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the report and I'm not sure exactly what we can talk about in the court today can we actually
kind of talk verbatim or?
Well I think one of the most important the most important takeaways for well first of
all for people that want to get quote unquote get involved in the class action to the extent
that the business class action was certified you're already involved because the law is

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in Alberta you know you're part of the case unless you you know physically opt out and
we're in the process of of agreeing with the court what the process is going to be for
that advertising for that people that don't want to be you know considered part of the
class action then simply just have to fill out a form send it to the office say hey you
guys you're on your own I don't want any money out of the class action I'm gonna do my own

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thing whatever so that's the process there so the law in Alberta on class actions once
they're certified everybody's in until they take themselves out so well no no that's the
business class action it's certified so that's until until the court of appeal unless the
court of appeal overturns the certification where you know the the business class action

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is certified and everybody's in until they opt out is the law right where we're at with
the vaccine class action right is we're in the process of trying to cert get to trying
to get it certified so there's a whole process involved in that and the part of the process
that you guys were watching today I think somebody framed it really well it's like oh

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so this is just an argument about like when you're gonna have an argument yeah so what
happened when it was it was a very technical proceeding today not much turns on the result
one way or another right but what the province of Alberta is arguing is that they in Canada

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before we get to certification because they don't want the court to see any evidence there's
nothing to see here court don't worry about this court don't look at the Alberta government
report that you know that literally confirms and corroborates all of the things that were
pled in the statement of claim in the vaccine class action about government misinformation

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disinformation you know conspiracy you know conspiracy to commit assault on citizens of
Alberta by preventing them from getting you know being able to provide informed consent
you know oh don't worry about any and all of that stuff judge we're gonna deal with
that you know without evidence in a striking motion so we're gonna try to get the whole

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claim kicked out you know before you actually have to look at any evidence or even look
at Gary Davidson's the task force report to know that everything that Rath and company
you're saying about the government is actually true and confirmed by the government right
so that's what the argument was about today so but that being said the most shocking and

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this isn't the first day they said it what your listeners or viewers rather need to internalize
is that lawyers paid for by their tax dollars and the government of Alberta stood up in
court with a straight face and said judge there's nothing to see here this action can't
succeed yeah we can see that Dina Hinshaw was an employee of the government of Alberta

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and in a normal sense we'd be liable for whatever Dina did like if she ran over somebody with
a car but this isn't that this is just her giving you know like not even medical advice
we won't call it medical advice because if it's medical advice there might be a connotation
that we could be sued but no just her talking in public about policy and what she thinks

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policy direction should be there's no duty of care here we have no duty of care to the
citizens of Alberta right not with that many times yeah oh yeah they kept repeating there's
no duty of care your government doesn't think you have it they had a duty of care towards
you they could put Dina Hinshaw up on TV every day doing her you know American Sign Language

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interpreter impersonation saying making up the most outlandish you know stuff not based
in science tell everybody that it's science tell everybody that things were safe that
they were effective that babies died from COVID and the people dying from four-stage
cancer died of COVID and you know all those types of things but oh you know nothing to

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see here we don't have a duty of care for any of that.
So Jeff the takeaway that I had from this and correct me if I'm wrong is basically the
class action is suing the government but the government is saying no our agencies AHS and
RCMP and whoever else enforced all that no it doesn't matter you can't sue the government

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because it's the agencies that are dealing with it.
It's the people that we told to do the things that they did that you should assume right
we paid them to do it but it's not yeah yeah yeah that's right and we directed them to
do it we told them to do it but it's not our fault you know once you hire a hitman right
it should all be on him right you know like you know is effectively you know it's effectively

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the same you know sort of logic that you know that they're pursuing but to be clear you
know and Chris was there for all of that because he of course is our representative plaintiff
in the business class action every single argument today that they made in court today
they made in front of Justice Feesby in the business class action and he rejected every
single one of those arguments out of hand right it's like well wait a minute you can't

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say that because the it was AHS you know the directed the RCMP to put Chris you know you
know to put Chris Scott in handcuffs and destroy his business and haul him away and you know
illegally imprison him and all that kind of stuff you know don't say the government of
Alberta did that like no no no no no that was that was AHS of the RCMP and you've sued

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the wrong people you shouldn't be suing the government of Alberta and of course Justice
Feesby completely completely shredded that argument you know refused to acknowledge that
it had any validity or any merit right certified the class action and on top of it in the context
and this is and that ruling of Justice Feesby's by the way so everybody knows your tax dollars

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are paying lawyers to appeal to the Alberta Court of Appeal and of course they're dragging
their feet and there are no rush to get to the Court of Appeal because the longer they
delay the longer it is before the government has to pay right so they're you know they're
they're taking to the Court of Appeal and guess who the Attorney General is of Alberta

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Mickey Amory guess who Mickey Amory was in COVID years he was the only non-cabinet minister
member of the COVID cabinet so as a lawyer he was he was in on every single thing that
went on and every single decision that was made by Jason Kenny and others which Justice
Feesby said they either knew or should have known were patently illegal specifically making

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up you know like taking you know make giving orders to Dean Inshaw and telling her to pretend
there were medical officer orders when really they were orders coming directly from cabinet
and Jason Kenny and what Justice Feesby said about that is you know is you know our argument
prevailed that to the extent that it was more than plausible that the government you know

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the cabinet was pushing out the orders through Dean Inshaw under the Public Health Act as
opposed to the Emergencies Management Act is that they did not want to be politically
accountable for those decisions they didn't want to have to go to barbecues in their riding
or you know or have take phone calls from constituents because yeah that's a story during
COVID we weren't allowed to have barbecues anymore but whatever.

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I also heard a bunch of them flew up to Fort Vermilion for you know for a birthday party
of a friend of Travis K's but that's a different issue right but I mean those are you know
those are unsubstantiated rumors of course but anyway getting back to the main point
you know the court found it was more than plausible that the reason that they didn't

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want to push out the orders under the Emergencies Act and instead pretended that they were being
a Hinshaw's orders under the Public Health Act was to avoid a political accountability
because of course you know let's put this let's think about this if you're a cabinet
minister we actually you know there's a number of them hiding under their desks right now
since the you know since the David's the COVID Task Force report came out right but you know

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leaving that aside you know the real issue that the court found was you know the fact
that you know and this is what we said in argument look if these people had to make
the orders under the Emergencies Act and had to be directly accountable to their constituents
these orders might not have been made because they don't want to take they didn't want to

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take it's obvious they didn't want to take the political heat for them they hid behind
Dena Hinshaw and pretended that she was the one making the orders that's why we won Ingram
right so Justin that's right so and of course she wasn't you know she wasn't taking that
lying down so it's one of those situations they're pointing at her and she's pointing
directly back at them and of course the judge believed her rather than them because they

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relied on cabinet privilege and wouldn't show up and give evidence in any event let alone
be cross-examined but that's a different story but so the court believed Dr. Hinshaw that
she was not the one making the orders and then it was in fact cabinet that was making
the orders right and so which brings us forward to Feesby who said look you know that's a
plausible misfeasance in public office you know that's not being done for a bona fide

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public purpose like an emergency these are being pushed out as public health orders so
that cabinet can avoid political liability by making these orders as emergency orders
under the Emergencies Act. So and again just to close this you know close the loop on this
you know people in Alberta need to ask themselves like what kind of taste it leaves in their

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mouth to know that Mickey Amory is the Attorney General of Alberta is directing government
lawyers at government expense right to go to the Court of Appeal to try to set aside
a ruling that may have in fact found that he had plausibly engaged in a misfeasance
in public office let that sink in for a minute right.

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It tastes like Jameson whiskey. Yeah well Jameson tastes a lot better than
that frankly. To me it tastes like something like a leprechaun might do in your mouth while
you're sleeping but anyway I mean this is what we're dealing with you know and I guess

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you know and I hate to come across like I'm being facetious about these things and that
you know that I'm making a big joke out of all of this but honestly guys if I wasn't
laughing I'd be crying like when I think about all the kids that have been you know horribly
injured when I think about all the women that have lost their babies and lost their pregnancies
because they were told that this was the right thing to do and it was safe and effective

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I mean it literally breaks my heart and I mean this is what we're dealing with and this
is what people need to internalize and like and while we're on that because one of the
reasons like when I say you either opt in or opt out of class actions we are when you
go to our websites both on the vaccine class action in the business class actions we have
intake forms where we're asking people to fill them out provide us their contact information

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you know tell us how it was you know that you were injured following the vaccine you
know etc so that we can start generating our own internal statistics you know from people
that are sharing their information with us through the COVID website so I would really
and again keep in mind what happens like you know if a pregnant woman loses her baby you

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know one of these you know pro-vaccine doctors oh well it's a mystery and we don't know why
that could happen and you know you know let's all work you know a lot of the stuff is just
baffling like nobody will say the word vaccine out loud because of you know there's they've
been trained really well by the college not to promote vaccine hesitancy same thing with
children that have been diagnosed with myocarditis or young adults that have been diagnosed with

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myocarditis pericarditis which is the you know the damage to your you know your your
veins and your arteries right you know any of those diagnoses right and all of the doctors
that are treating these people you know well not all of them some people some doctors are
being honest but still there's quite a few doctors this province oh well we don't know

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what causes that and this is an exceptionally rare condition and you know and especially
if you're the pediatrician that recommended that the kid get vaccinated because it's safe
and effective right are you gonna tell the parents like I really screwed up here you
need to take a look at this you know the study from from Lancet that indicates that 50 you

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know 50% you know we should have known that 50% of kids getting the shot we're gonna the
Pfizer shot we're gonna get myocarditis and you should really be suing my ass off because
you know I gave you some really really really bad advice that I shouldn't have given you
and I should have done a deep dive into publicly available information like Pfizer you know
EUA table 14 that makes it clear that the vaccines are gonna kill more children than

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COVID I really wish I did that you know I think you should sue me so how many doctors
out there do you think are giving their patients that little pep talk right instead what parents
are getting is they're all it's all the divide and conquer nonsense this is really rare we
don't know what happened this is so rare.
Oh it's your fault somehow.

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Yeah I've never seen that I've never seen this before and all this is so rare you know
we'll do the best we can there are treatments and your child can go on all these various
cardiac medications and you better restrict his activities because you know he's not at
the heart of a seven-year-old and if he runs too hard he could die so you know we got to
monitor his physical activity at least that's what you know at least that's what Lancet

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says within 32% of the cases you know you can look forward to you know you know that's
what's actually going on so you know there's a real lack of transparency that you know
that we're observing through other physicians who are being honest about these things that
are attempting to document these things and are attempting to even bring you know bringing

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this information forward you know to our office you know on a you know confidential you know
basis that's what's going on and parents in this province need to be furious they need
to demand that Daniel Smith root out every single cabinet minister in her government

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that is responsible for this and advise them that they're really not qualified to be dog
catchers you know after you know the fact that they all went along with all of this
and the fact that all of the people that have you know that I understand are in government
in the bureaucracy in cabinet whatever have been involved in slow-walking the publication

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of the task force final report who've been involved in not insisting that Mark Joffey
immediately advise pregnant women to never ever get a COVID shot ever again you know
advise Albertans that you better be pretty careful if you're still on the vaccine pool
they train and don't miss your shots because there's you know there's a pretty strong signal

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that you know that's really bad for your heart right but you know all of that needs to happen
and you know and you know and I have nothing but respect for you know for Premier Smith
and I can appreciate how difficult her job is I mean especially now that she's the only
adult in the room when it comes to the tariff discussions and she's effectively only things

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she's dealing with yeah yeah right this isn't the only thing she's doing with so she's effectively
Canada's Minister of External Affairs trying to keep the rest of the morons from destroy
economically destroying our country by engaging in a tit-for-tat terra for with our largest
trading partner right so she's pretty busy but at the same time from the standpoint of

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both her reputation and the reputation of her government because this isn't Jason Copping's
government this isn't Jason Kenny's government this isn't you know Nixon's government this
isn't you know this isn't you know Mickey Amory's government this is her government
you know so you know I really hope that she internalizes that and I'm looking forward

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to some very strong leadership here you know in the next couple weeks as the Premier herself
internalizes you know this task force report you know as not being misinformation as being
you know a very very fair and even-handed discussion of what transpired through COVID

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and you know and does the right thing and starts implementing you know a number of the
recommendations in this report including immediately halting the availability of any of these vaccines
in Alberta right first of all you know like you know I think we're in a point now with
therapeutics and otherwise we realize people are better off with therapeutics flu voxemine

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is you know is a good one that the Ontario Science table stated outright reduced COVID
deaths by nine zero percent but which our chief medical officer of health still won't
tell physicians to prescribe in those rare cases of COVID that still pop up right because
heaven forbid that there's a you know that there's an off patent off-label effective

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treatment for COVID as opposed to Paxlovid or Remdesivir also known as run death is near
right you know so you know there needs to be some strong leadership moves and what I
really really hope because Danielle Smith, Premier Smith promised this to us and I was
there when she made this promise at the APP leadership forum when she was ready for the

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leadership that there needs to be a public inquiry into all of this right with subpoena
power.
No a public inquiry you know with somebody with an open mind who's willing to consider
all sides of the argument and not accept anybody calling anybody else's information misinformation

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or disinformation or allowing the name-calling that's been going on to take place and force
people to testify on the basis of science you know let's have all you know let's have
all the scientists from Stanford who were there with Jay Bhattacharya talking about
these things come forward let's have Dr. Shoemaker who has provided an amazing presentation that

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I've seen of cardiac MRIs showing the hearts of COVID vaccine victims black on the MRI
scans half black on the MRI scans from the damage that was done to them by the vaccines
you know let's have that presentation made to the public so that the public can then

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consider you know whether any of the people that were involved in this should ever hold
public office again or should ever ever hold a job with the government or any position
of responsibility in our society ever again you know that's what I think needs to happen
you know and I mean and again you know I think we've been at this for you know an hour and

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a half and we've probably inundated you know all of you know your readers with a lot of
information that's probably pretty hard to use.
It is a lot of information and so one of the one of the questions as well I wanted to ask
is so we've gone through the class action part this is the when are we going to argue
everything what what is the next process when does when does the actual class action go

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through certification like how long do you think that's going to take?
Well where we're at right now is that Justice Diltz has reserved on the issue of whether
we're going to have a striking application before we go straight into the certification
hearing right so you know and you heard what her calendar was like today in court so probably

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the earliest if the striking goes first we could get in on the striking would be three
months from now but I would also suggest if we're going forward with certification right
you know that we look at the timelines that we used in the in the business class action
case you know there's no reason that if Justice Diltz doesn't give in to Canada and Alberta's

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attempt you know to drag their feet on the way to the principal's office and bifurcate
the proceedings by having a motion in front of a motion with regard to matters that are
already subsumed in the original motion right if she doesn't allow that to happen then you
know literally we could be at certification you know I would think easily within three
to six months you know or alternatively if they get to have you know their motion about

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the motion you know we get that done and you know in two or three months and then we get
certification in the fall right so you know it's going to be this year and needless to
say you know as you can tell from my attitude over this stuff and the approach that I'm
taking to it work you know we're pedal to the metal on this and the business class action
and you know I'm bound and determined that people will be held to account good and I

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did want to bring up that the the second injection of truth healing humanity is going to take
place on Monday March 3rd and a lot of doctors will be there as well including actually I
just want to kind of go through here Dr. Gary Davidson at Denny Graham Court David Martin
David Spector Byron Bridal Joni Liu and Sean Buckley and and I'm pretty sure Chris and

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I will be there I'm sure Jeff will be there I'm not sure I've been actually invited to
join the panel on this they just haven't updated their information so yeah so I'll be there
to you know to update people on the class actions and to say things about Dr. Davidson's
report that Dr. Davidson can't say about his report so that you know that you know that

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should be a that should be a really interesting evening.
I mean there's still a lot we could talk about we could talk about so you know what is the
process of if the government was to say we're going to stop everything right now and take
a look at it and then we'll have the other side we want to call it sides going wait a
minute that's my right to go in I'm now going to go to BC and get the shot I'm going to
go to Saskatchewan because there's no issues there.

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Yeah I mean absolutely if you feel that strongly about it by all means go to BC or Saskatchewan
at least the liability is not going to accrue to the Alberta government.
That's right.
Right you know that's that's point number one and if nothing else comes out of this
including our podcast this evening maybe Mark Joffe will get the message that he needs to
immediately advise the College of Pharmacists to send out an immediate emergency notice

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to the profession of pharmacology that Deanna Hinshaw's ASL translation of medicine to the
effect that mixing and matching the vaccines is fine and it's good for you you know will
be put to bed once and for all and stop having you know our fellow Albertans who've yet to

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still absorb you know the extent to which you know they've been misled from at least
getting hurt worse than they're going to be hurt by continuing to get boosters.
Do you remember what the colleges did to doctors that pushed against their narrative or the
ones in BC Daniel and Mel that spoke up about the stillbirths do you remember that they

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just like they crucified them.
Oh come on look at it look at look at Eric Payne I mean the College of Physicians and
Surgeons was that went after Eric for four years.
Brilliant doctors in the province.
Oh yeah they're trying to they're literally them and AHS they had AHS are literally have
literally been trying to run Eric out of the province he's one of the most qualified pediatric

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neurologists in Canada if not the world and they're doing their best to try to run him
out of the province and keep in mind so you know it was it was all about you know Eric
you know published a paper raising cautions from a pediatrician's perspective about the
dangers of the vaccine and then he was accused by the college you know or accused by people

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that were put up by AHS his so-called colleagues at Alberta Health that he was guilty of misinformation
and I can tell you as Eric's lawyer for four years I was continually writing the College
of Physicians and Surgeons to say can you please specifically identify what it is that

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Dr. Payne has said that constitutes misinformation.
In four years of litigation with the college over this they were never ever once told so
able to tell my office or Dr. Payne what specifically was in his reports that constituted misinformation

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never ever and it's just like you know it's just like you know our friends at the American
Alberta Medical Association saying that Dr. Davidson's report you know is replete with
misinformation I saw a letter that John Carpe had opened letter that he wrote that was published
in the Western Standard today it actually mirrors a letter that I wrote of a confidential

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nature to the AMA saying can you please identify for us in the report what specifically you
characterizes misinformation because obviously if you're saying that Alberta Health Services
isn't you know this provided false data or a Pfizer's provided false data or that Alberta

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Health has provided false data or the Dena Hinshaw's provided you know bad medical advice
to people telling them tell them pregnant women to get shots and not telling parents
that kids could die from COVID I mean if any of that's untrue right can you please point
us out you know where it's untrue and how it's untrue and why it's untrue and then we

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can have a really collegial discussion about this without a bunch of name-calling why don't
we do that right but of course I don't I don't ever expect to get a response from any of
these people just like Timothy Caulfield not having the having the guts to show his face
at the Stanford Symposium it's the same thing but consensus consensus international consensus

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exactly so yeah so that's what we're dealing with well that's gonna be a good I think that's
gonna be a good little conference there yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
ever since this started so he couldn't really speak publicly now he can he can speak to

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all of it.
Yeah we can certainly speak to the data in the report unfortunately he's not allowed
to name names of and that's the other thing too I mean the report specifically identifies
that the report took as long as it did to produce because they were constantly being
frustrated by Alberta Health AHS officials who refused to cooperate refused to provide

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data refused to provide information that was requested by the task force I mean you know
one of the things that you know that you know I think comes out clear when you read the
report is that this was on behalf of the task force this was an exercise in pulling teeth
to get Alberta Health and Alberta Health Services to respond with any degree of transparency

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with regard to all of the horrible things that they did right so you know that's something
else that people need you know to take come in mind I don't expect Gary's gonna be able
to show up on the third and name names but I sure as hell hope somebody does and if it
takes a public if it takes a public if it takes a public inquiry to get that done then

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so be it that you know a judge with subpoena powers and you know and let's start subpoenaing
records and force you know force AHS and Alberta Health to you know produce records I hope
the shredders aren't running full-time since this report came out but you know who knows
they may be but.
The internet is forever anyway.
Well you know.
Can we do it is there a mechanism for a public inquiry in this province or in this country?

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Oh absolutely absolutely absolutely right.
How does it happen?
Well I mean you can even do it under the fatalities fatality inquiries act you know if you know
with regard to anybody that's died from the vaccine we're trying to we're gonna try to
address a lot of these issues through the through the Chad Hawes public inquiry because
I think you know the degree to which he was misdiagnosed the degree to which people were

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resident reticent even on his autopsy form to acknowledge that the cause of death was
the vaccines the cause of death they put down as capillary leak syndrome right and I said
this in public in public court you know open court so this is yeah well no no that's when
you bleed to death through your lungs but then they say the cause of death was natural

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and of course you know what I pointed out to the court was like you know that's like
stabbing somebody 40 you know like somebody being stabbed 40 times and then the you know
the coroner writing down on the autopsy form cause of death exsanguination natural without
ever commenting that the cause of the exsanguination were the 40 stab wounds in his chest right
yeah you know especially when you drown in your own blood in your lungs which is you

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know effectively what they've consigned a lot of people to right so it's you know it's
you know it's I think it's that you know I think we're through the worst of it I think
from this point forward you know and especially since our fellow citizens you know have you
know the vast majority of us like at least 94% of us have joined the ranks of the unvaxxed

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anti-vaxxers right yeah yeah I mean a friend of mine did the math today he's supposed
to get a booster every three months so anybody that has I just want everybody to know that's
listening even if you're still kind of on the booster train if you haven't had 15 you're
a slacker and you're an anti-vaxxer so you may as well just throw in the towel because

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unless you've had 15 shots you know you're not up to date and you're obviously an anti-vaxxer
and you're unvaccinated so join the rest of us you're unvaccinated if you haven't had
15 shots so you know there you go yeah any other offensive or any other offensive or
inflammatory things that I can say before I leave or have you pretty much reminded us

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Jeff is just a tiger in the courtroom it's awesome to watch and Eva's there right beside
him tossing notes to him because she didn't speak at all today did she?
No there wasn't really scope for it today and we also had Mark Freeman from my office

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there and Mark's actually you know is actually an expert in class actions and has been involved
in class action litigation you know across Canada for you know for decades and has been
involved in some of the country's biggest class action cases so it's always nice to
you know you don't hear Mark a lot he doesn't sit at the council table but he's always a

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very steady presence in the courtroom for me so I wanted to give Mark a shout out as
well Mark you know he's 33 going on 34 year council and yeah we're very happy to have
him on board.
So I should point something out there's probably people wondering like well why do we have
to go through all this why does it take so much process it all costs money and the reality

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is folks you don't have to we never had to in the first place all we had to do and all
you had to do is say no that was it.
No but there's another point to this too and I've been encouraging more and more and more
people to get politically active do Daniel Smith a favor you know all these cabinet ministers

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who were in the COVID cabinet start organizing in your writing challenge their nominations
find people to run against them and replace them because you know what if I'm so sick
and tired of any legislator in this province that thinks that they were elected to represent
the government and to represent the bureaucracy and the bureaucrats instead of representing
the constituents that voted them into office and I think we need to have we need to have

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a revolution within the Conservative Party of Alberta and we need to throw all of those
bums out you know if you're not there for the people you shouldn't be there at all and
I think that's where we need to start going with this and everybody needs to focus on
that and then the other thing is you know what could be done to make these things move
quicker everybody needs to write Daniel Smith you need to write her and tell her how horrified

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you are about the about the task force report and how pregnant women were told to get the
jab and it was good for them the parents were told it was good you know it was okay to mix
and match the vaccines and their kids that they were told to vaccinate their children
at all you know Daniel Smith has the power to direct this she's the premier of Alberta

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she has the power to direct the settlement of both of those lawsuits you know it's not
you know all of this nonsense that you know people tried to feed you know feed her when
you know Art Polowski you know pulled his idiotic bonehead to move taping a conversation
over you know COVID charges these are COVID charges the decision to settle multi-billion

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dollar lawsuits is a decision made at the highest level and it's made you know by the
premier in cabinet and if the premier comes to the considered decision that it's going
to be far cheaper in the long run to immediately address damages and liability in the short
run then that's her decision to make and I think everybody needs to encourage Daniel

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Smith to put pressure on her attorney general to you know to drop the appeal of the business
class action to immediately focus on the settlement of both of these cases and get after it that's
what she was elected to do you know and it was certainly what she was promising when
she was running to be leader of the party and I would know when every now every time

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now that we go to you know the annual general meetings and you see the thousands and thousands
and thousands of people that are there they're there because of her they're not there because
they support the Kenny cabinet holdovers you know that she still has in cabinet you know
let's face it when you know and I've said this before you know when Tyler Chandra and

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Jason Copping got booted out and replaced by NDP MLAs it wasn't because all of a sudden
there was an upsurge in NDP support in Calgary the real reason they got booted out is every
Calgary and in their constituencies that were disgusted with having their business destroyed

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being locked in their homes all of the horrible things that those two fine gentlemen did to
people right those people said I don't care who gets elected in this constituency I'm
not going to go and vote for those people and they stayed home so there wasn't a massive
upsurge in NDP vote in Calgary and I discussed this with the other constituent or constituency

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presence presidents across Canada and very senior people in the party who you know whose
identities will remain nameless because I'm sure they don't want their names being banned
you devoted the context of this discussion but very senior people in the party when I
have this discussion with them which goes along the lines of can we please stop pandering
to the people that think that masks that masks and vaccines saved their lives because none

(01:43:13):
of those people were ever going to vote for Daniel Smith at the Conservative Party anyway
they're always going to vote NDP you're not going to change their minds right so let's
stop worrying about those people and worry about the 10% of Calgarians because the overall
conservative vote across Calgary was depressed by 10% because at least 10% of conservatives

(01:43:33):
in Calgary were too disgusted by what their conservative government under Jason Kenney
had done to them to be able to stomach getting up off the couch and going out to vote so
that's what we need to internalize we need to get our people back you know and we get
them back by telling the truth being honest addressing our mistakes and saying hey you

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know as a government we completely screwed up we need to make this right and we're immediately
going to negotiate a settlement to the business class action or the vaccine class action why
are we going to do it because it's the right thing to do and maybe wouldn't it wouldn't
it be nice if for once we elected you know legislators you know to the legislature that

(01:44:16):
were there because they wanted to do the right thing by the people instead of the right thing
by the bureaucrats and the cabinet ministers are hiding under their desks and trying to
avoid responsibility.
That brings up another question besides this one that Janelle's asking so does that you
know I'm the representative plaintiff for the business class action does that make me

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a grifter stealing taxpayer money?
Well you know of course not you know when government you know if somebody from the government
ran over you know ran you over with their car or ran over a family member of yours with
a car you know are you a grifter because you'd want you know you'd want the government who
self-insures to pay for it of course not the government government damaged you they damaged

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millions of other people you know there needs to there needs to be an acknowledgement of
that damage and there needs to be a settlement period you know and obviously we can afford
it and we have all these bright boys and girls in the Department of Finance let's find a
way once and for all for Alberta to become a have not province so all the money generated

(01:45:18):
in this province and stay in the province to pay people that have suffered vaccine injuries
to pay people you know whose businesses were destroyed through COVID to rebuild you know
to build refineries in Alberta keep all that money in Alberta as a nice have not province
and let Quebec and Ontario pay us transfer payments for a change you know I'm sure you
know the government the government of Quebec has an entire wing of its finance department

(01:45:42):
that's figured out how to do it surely to god we have people accounts in Alberta that
are well enough educated to cook the books the same way that Quebec has so I think we
need to get on that.
So Janelle had asked if there's a way that people can be charged criminally after this
now I know that the legislation can be used as a shield in when it's when it's done in

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good faith so what would make it so that people could civilly sue some of these people?
Well I'm I don't practice criminal law anymore I mean I did you know when I was younger I
think the short answer is there is you know there is a possibility that criminal charges
could be laid and certainly either in conjunction with or following a public inquiry you know

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once we answer the questions who knew what when where and how right once we have the
answers to those four questions you know then you know maybe we could start exploring you
know the question of criminal culpability and a special prosecutor could be appointed
you know to you know to consider the degree to which you know people you know that who

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might have known from the outset that these vaccines were going to kill people but didn't
care I mean you know you know if that were to happen I'm not saying that it did and it's
you know frankly you know I think I look at this more from the lens of just negligence
and incompetence rather than criminality but certainly it's certainly an evidence came
forward that somebody in the Alberta government knew all of these things that I've been talking

(01:47:16):
about tonight before the vaccines were ever rolled out and chose to ignore that for policy
reasons and or to advance their own careers or whatever it is there's certainly a number
of sections under the criminal code that would apply right but you know that's not for me
really to talk about I think public inquiry let's answer those four important questions

(01:47:37):
who knew what when where and how and then at that point you know I think we can responsibly
consider whether or not special prosecutors should be appointed and whether there should
be further repercussions at the very least there don't need to be criminal charges to
throw these bums out and fire everybody that was involved I think we know that we know
they can be fired because Daniel Smith has fired Dr. Yintra twice yeah right I think

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there was a group of MLAs that did get that information but again I actually think a lot
of this had to do with bureaucrats right and they're not elected so how do we those MLAs
are getting it from both both camps oh and that was your thing well these guys are saying
this and you're saying that so we're just not gonna do anything right but again the
issue with the unelected bureaucrats I mean simple solution is firing them you know if

(01:48:24):
you know if you know especially the ones you know especially the ones that were playing
hide the ball on the task force and not cooperating with the task force providing information
when requested when they knew full well that the task force had been you know had been
appointed under the Alberta health quality assurance council right so you know that they

(01:48:47):
knew that this was you know that this was a very high-level investigation initiated
by the the premier under government auspices and they refused to cooperate I mean it's
a no-brainer to fire all of them so you know and you know and hope you know maybe we don't
know maybe they have been fired already but if so you know we'd like to know who they
are you know and I mean you know I think employers in this province would like to know you know

(01:49:12):
who not to hire you know maybe they can all go back to Quebec or Ontario or wherever the
hell they came from you know or BC or whatever I mean they can't all be Albertans maybe they
can find jobs somewhere else you know but I mean all those people I think need to be
weeded out root and branch and take it out of government so that this never happens again
there you know this is you know this is just you know when you read this entire report

(01:49:34):
and you know understand it from cover to cover how every piece of it interrelates you know
it's just absolutely shocking you know there's no other word for it I mean I'm in a complete
loss for words.
So the criminal charges is plausible but it's kind of put in the cart before the horse at

(01:49:55):
this point.
Yeah I don't think it's responsible to talk about criminal charges until you know the
civil litigation you know proceeds further or a public inquiry that can you know answer
those four key questions right.
For the folks that are asking for there's a lot of folks they want heads to roll I would
suggest if you get involved start pushing like start pushing for that public interest.

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Run for office talk to your family and friends find it if you have a bum for an MLA or a
bum in what your MLA happens to be a bum of a cabinet minister that was involved in making
all of these horrible decisions in the in the Kenny government then all of your friends
and neighbors should band together like angry villagers with pitchforks and you know peacefully

(01:50:35):
right nominate a new candidate amongst your friends and your friends and neighbors I'm
sure you know especially you know like anywhere in Alberta you know amongst our friends and
neighbors if you get 10 or 20 people together all of you could collectively come up with
a list of names to represent you who's more far more qualified than the person currently
representing you.
This is Alberta you know we have the highest number of you know at least used to I'm not

(01:50:59):
sure where we're at post all of the you know Trudeau driven immigration to Alberta but
we used to have the highest number of university degrees per capita of any jurisdiction in
the world right.
So we have enough well-educated intelligent people here you know that can all get together
and maybe decide who would be better to represent them in you know in the legislature then somebody

(01:51:20):
who was involved in locking them up in their house telling them how many friends they could
have telling their 18 year old kid that he couldn't go to couldn't go to high school
but he could go watch the strippers I forgot about that one that was a good one remember
that one that was an oldie bit of goodie right yeah you can't go to high school but you can
still go to the peelers right only in Alberta right that was a Dena Hinchai health order
right well at least you're learning something right yeah there you go advanced health class

(01:51:47):
yeah why wash wash your hands before eating.
Theresa Tam with the masks and yeah you can have sex and you just don't breathe or touch
her it was just well I hate to say it Kerry but that wasn't that wasn't abnormal for for
that person I mean I think it was mostly with masks prior to that but anyway that's a little

(01:52:07):
off top.
One of my favorite Theresa Tams though still to this day was when she came forward and
declared a new public health threat for Canada and then you know because Covid's over and
we need to continue the reign of terror you know presided over by the health bureaucracy
so when she declared climate change to be a public health emergency and opine that the

(01:52:31):
greatest chart causes climate change in Canada were heteronormativity and ableism right you
know like okay I'm you know want a family and have a job so I'm sorry for carbon emissions
I guess.
Yeah exactly yeah.
I was just bringing up there's other court cases going on as well and of course just

(01:52:52):
Johnson with the papers suing AHS and in their statement of defense they specifically state
that they did not owe me duty of care.
Well that's actually kind of interesting I'd like to comment on that right because again
this is a game of hide the ball right so the the Alberta lawyers of course they were arguing
that we should have sued AHS they were almost suggesting the Alberta government doesn't

(01:53:15):
have a duty of care maybe AHS had a duty of care you should have sued them but thank you
without papers pizza for letting me know that AHS even denies that it has a duty of care
so I guess we have what we see is the the COVID shuffle where AHS is now pointing at
the government and the government's pointing at AHS and all of these things will sort themselves

(01:53:39):
out sooner rather than later but again without papers pizza in all seriousness if you want
to reach out to my office through our website I'd be very interested in you know and looking
at your pleadings with you and seeing where you're at I've got a feeling I've got a feeling
as to what type of lawsuit you'd like the file.
That's our friend Leighton yeah Leighton Gray is his oh okay so Leighton's doing a business

(01:54:06):
class action or what's he doing?
No he's suing individually.
Oh right okay gotcha gotcha but yeah okay well that's why if Leighton's your lawyer
you're capable hands but no but I love that AHS is saying that they don't have a duty
of care because apparently the Alberta government doesn't either and really at the end of the
day who should care really they're just the ones that told us that yeah like we should

(01:54:31):
care really you know it's just you know it's just our lives it's our businesses it's our
children it's our babies it's you know all of that stuff nobody should care right we're
you know we're just not the machine yeah nobody should be responsible.
At the end of the day we are responsible for ourselves and that's why like sometimes it's
hard but we got to say no to that stuff right yeah we have to because nobody else it like

(01:54:57):
they all said that we don't have a duty of care to protect you well that means that we
better damn well protect ourselves.
Well I'm still you know I'm still cautiously optimistic that our premier's gonna stand
up and do the right thing.
I think that I think this report goes a long way to you know to showing you know to demonstrating
in spades you know what happened you know through the pandemic that she needs to address

(01:55:21):
immediately and you know hopefully you know this is gonna give her some real ammunition
that she can use you know in terms of dealing with all of these people that you know that
somehow claim that you know like our friend Mr. Caulfield who you know claims that the
world is going to come to an end effectively and we're in the dark ages 2.0 because somebody's

(01:55:43):
suggesting that by no longer giving people shots that don't work to prevent the disease
that it's supposed to prevent and don't prevent you from transmitting the disease to anybody
else etc that somehow depriving people of that oh my goodness that's so valuable right
is going to bring an end to modern civilization.

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You know I think you guys posited to you know two really good solutions that if you're if
you're really really believe that these shots and vaccines still work then there's lots
of other provinces that you can move to and you know and why don't you go there because
that would be better for all of us or better yet you know like why do you want to be here

(01:56:24):
in Alberta with all of us we're 96% of us are anti-vax now but you don't want to be
here all you know the remaining 5% of people that believe in the in the power of the great
god vaccine and you worship the covid vaccine the way that cult cargos you know cargo cultus
worship coke bottles washed up on the beach well you guys carry on but do it in BC the
climates better have fun you know don't let the door hit in the ass on the way out that's

(01:56:48):
my attitude yeah I would wager three dollars that Daniel Smith is going to act on this
that's three dollars that's it I just have a feel well I don't have that's all I got
I think something's going to come of this I it's hard to be patient and you know I
haven't seen what's going on but I still have I still have faith so I'm hoping that the

(01:57:13):
day that she doesn't make the announcements that we all hope that she does that the three
of us can get together in front of a really good bottle of glen fiddick and and toast
her leadership so anyway that's I'm still cautiously optimistic that we're going to
find ourselves there me too me too all right if that's a big topic it's two hours almost

(01:57:38):
it's so easy to talk to Jeff for two hours because he talks for an hour and 45 sorry
yeah well there's so much information to go over we could go another hour probably and
still not get to the end of it like we haven't even talked about the testing or the npi's
or any of those oh I haven't I haven't even told you guys any of my really really great

(01:57:59):
covid litigation war stories some of which are frankly quite hilarious but you know like
maybe we should have you back for that one then and you know but yeah no it's anyway
it's a lot of this stuff I think has to wait until I'm out of court well you know it's
dealing with other lawyers and dealing with well actually the one I mean that everybody's

(01:58:20):
aware of I mean here I'll tell you a quick one and then I'll and then I really will let
you guys sign up but because Eric Payne and I were talking about it today right because
he was actually there with me right so you know they're trying to fire you know this
is what AHS thought it was a really good idea in the middle of a so-called public health
emergency to fire doctors and nurses who are assisting in you know providing medical help

(01:58:42):
to people during a health emergency who wouldn't get vaccinated right so Eric Payne you know
Greg Chan and Joanna Moser you know these were some of my clients at the time and I
think we're there we're examining Payne this one day so anyway guys from AHS came in and
they make a big show of sitting down at their zoom thing removing their mask that they wore

(01:59:04):
into the zoom room to show that they're completely mask compliant but I'm sitting in the zoom
room at my office and just for the record my office had a strict no mask policy right
so I walk into the zoom room sit down don't they obviously don't have a mask to take off
and I said oh yeah and for those of you that are wondering why I'm not wearing a mask I

(01:59:25):
just threw it out there for shits and giggles I said that's because I have a mask exemption
right and not that I had an actual mask exception but in my own head it's like yeah it's my
office I'm the boss I set the policy right I'm quite comfortable telling anybody that
they don't have to wear a mask if they want to come to work and I'm damn well not going

(01:59:45):
to wear one so if you think you need a mask to protect yourself from me you go right ahead
but I ain't wearing one it's my office and if you don't like it you can work from home
I don't care about that either right but that's it so I sit down and I jokingly say I have
a mask exception well my joke led to the College of Physicians and Surgeons raiding my personal

(02:00:05):
physician's office the very next day and out of that we did a podcast on that.
Out of 5,000 some odd patients right that my doctor you know has in his practice they magically
made a beeline directly for my medical record to this day I surmise that the reason was
that some lawyer from AHS or some bureaucrat from AHS phoned the College of Physicians

(02:00:30):
and Surgeons gave them their marching orders that Jeff Rath and his doctor need to be taught
a lesson because he has a mask exception and they sent people that were not allowed to
refer to as Gestapo because that would be defamatory so I'm not doing that right but
they did send a guy okay he was not Gestapo but he was a guy who was fired from Covenant
Health for boundary violations specifically continually sleeping with a subordinate after

(02:00:55):
he'd been warned to stop and then was surreptitiously doing it behind everybody else's back after
he'd been told no no no you know don't do that no more so anyway he gets fired by public
health and of course who else would hire a person with limited ethics but the College
of Physicians and Surgeons and put this guy in charge of reading my private medical file

(02:01:16):
reviewing my private medical information without my consent right so yeah that's our College
of Physicians and Surgeons right.
Just so you're aware there's legislation that says the College of Physicians and Surgeons
can literally go to your doctor's office and take that information anytime they want for
any reason.

(02:01:37):
Oh no I'm well aware of it I've been in the trenches.
I want to make sure that people know that that's how far it can go in this.
Oh yeah no I've been in the trenches fighting the College of Physicians and Surgeons probably
going on 20 years now and I mean some of the stuff that I've seen them do over the years
has just been abominable and that's why I keep you know encouraging you know Danielle

(02:01:59):
to read you know to read the Public Health Act or the Public Health Professions Act more
correctly that says that the Minister of Health can fire the entire college board on 60 days
notice and then replace them with people that would willingly fire all of the registrars
and everybody else that are there and replace them with people that actually understand
what informed consent means and not coercing people into medical procedures mean and all

(02:02:23):
those little things that one would expect a medical regulator to know right.
You know so you know and again but it's the same problem as we have with you know with
our Attorney General you know if you know Mickey Amory isn't going to settle these lawsuits
then Danielle should fire him and replace him with an Attorney General that's prepared
to roll up his sleeves and negotiate.
She should also if the Health Minister isn't prepared to fire the entire College of Physicians

(02:02:47):
and Surgeons under authority that the Health Minister has that Daniel Smith should fire
that individual and replace that individual with you know somebody who's willing to you
know enact or to take steps under legislation that empowers them to get rid of the College
of Physicians and Surgeons.
I personally think Todd Lowen would make an excellent Health Minister right like because

(02:03:09):
I know when Todd Lowen was running for the leadership and he said that he would fire
everybody at the College of Physicians and Surgeons and fire every bureaucrat that was
involved in all of these horrible decisions he meant it.
So I mean on that vote alone I think I'd like to have Todd Lowen as our next Health Minister.
He's not going to thank me for this by the way not at all.

(02:03:32):
In fact I don't worry he'd be more comfortable with that.
If Todd's listening to this or if Todd hears this he's going to call me all kinds of names
I can tell you that right now.
Yeah yeah Health Minister there's a the next Health Minister that's going to be the most

(02:03:53):
thankless job in the province of Alberta.
Yeah that brings up another point.
But we definitely do need a next Health Minister there's no doubt about it right.
That brings up another point so there's a lot of people very disillusioned with government
they don't trust it's you know they don't believe in the process anymore.
I will tell you this and I know this to be true 100% there are some really good people

(02:04:16):
there and Todd is one of them.
Like there are some really really good honest ethical people in our government right now
and they do care about you.
He's one of them.
Yeah and you know and you know and to quote I you know I think three very you know important
words in the context of what we're talking about you know first of all never give up

(02:04:36):
but second of all fight fight fight.
Like we could not give up.
I've seen that before.
Yeah I think I've seen it too but I think it's really important that everybody you know
like pay attention wake up the time is now you know and you know and we can enact the
same kinds of sweeping changes in Alberta you know as are happening in other jurisdictions
which we're all quite gleefully watching right now.

(02:04:58):
So you know I think that you know everybody just needs to come together and realize that
you know that we're the adults in the room and we all need to come together and start
cleaning house and putting our house back in order.
And if you want to really do that folks head over to thealbertaprosperityproject.com and
check out what they have to say about fixing the problems that we currently are in.
I just had a long discussion long discussion with my good friend and colleague Dennis Modri

(02:05:22):
he's a god prevailed upon me to re-engage with APP so I think I'll be having a have
a good chat with Mitch Sylvester in the near future.
So that sounds awesome.
Yeah me too.
The most of our problems that we're experiencing right now they can only be dealt with if we
take control of our own futures and there is only one way to do it.
All right well we keep saying we're going to sign off and then we go on for another

(02:05:46):
10 minutes.
That's what happens here.
And then everybody's ready to oh okay no they're still talking so our viewers are used to that.
Thank you very much Jeff really appreciate your time.
It's always a pleasure even though you talk even longlier than I do but the information
that you give us is invaluable.
And by that I mean it's very valuable so thank you again.

(02:06:08):
Guys it's always a pleasure and you know I'm happy to come back whenever you want me so
thank you thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to everybody.
There we go fight fight fight.
All right I'm signing out over and out guys.
Well man my ears are.

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Jeff is awesome.
Yeah he really is and he is a fighter.
The guy's an absolute machine in the courtroom.
As I was watching today at one point the judge kind of gave him a little bit of the gears
said something like don't read to me don't ever read to me and I was like man if that
was me I'd turn into a pile of jello up there but he just kept continued on you know totally

(02:06:55):
professional but he's also been at it for almost as long as I've been live.
Yeah yeah yeah hell of a lawyer.
Yeah awesome.
So yeah I mean obviously we don't know when the next date will be or anything but we'll
definitely keep our viewers abreast of the situation of what we can find out and I know
Chris if you haven't realized what's been going on in the last couple months so we kind

(02:07:20):
of took a little bit of a hiatus of not doing these and then Chris took it amongst himself
and maybe it was a 20 25 kick in the ass and you said I'm going to start doing these and
so you've got a few more people coming out I'm not going to name names right now because
it doesn't matter but why a few more well I mean because we've got things in the in
the in the queue and you know there's there's lots in the queue.

(02:07:46):
Why are you hiding it what's going on I'm not I'm not I'm just saying that if somebody
wants to know then they'll tune in on tomorrow or Friday or whatever day I'm excited so okay
I'm going to tell you why I decided to start doing some podcasts again.
I just it's not that I have any more time per se but some of the things that are going

(02:08:07):
on in the world have been really encouraging me like I started waking up after Trump was
president-elect not even sworn in yet I felt emboldened that I could you know start talking
about more stuff I felt like I could share my faith a little bit more because the world
was moving in a direction away from what we've seen where people are persecuted for speaking

(02:08:31):
truth.
That's what we've seen over the last few years and so I started to feel a little bit different
and then as it progressed I'm like holy crap we actually have an opportunity for something
amazing to happen not only in Alberta not only in Canada but across this whole world
and I want to be part of it like I want Alberta I still believe Alberta is going to be the

(02:08:51):
leader we should be the tip of the spear that takes this entire woke BS anti-human anti-god
crap down and that that could be and it should be Alberta so I'm very encouraged by that
and one of the things that I can do and a very small thing I can do is just have conversations

(02:09:11):
and people can watch it and hopefully learn something new and they can have a conversation
with someone over coffee and that's the way the world changes so that's what I want to
do I've been inviting as many guests as I can on to the Chris and Kerry show to talk
about Alberta independence which is extremely important probably the most important thing
right now on the horizon in this province I've been talking about some of the stuff

(02:09:34):
around the COVID things and what the government's doing and those types of things another really
important thing tomorrow our guest is none other than our burger eating friend Sheila
Gunn-Reid from that's one Thursday though isn't it I know today's only Tuesday oh yeah
that's on Thursday yeah you're right sorry I'm behind today or ahead of it yeah it's

(02:09:57):
Sheila Gunn-Reid on Thursday and I wanted to have a chat with Sheila Gunn-Reid because
she is so knowledgeable on this province and Alberta independence and government and all
of those things like I just can't wait to hear what she has to say about current events
and hopefully that will motivate more people to get involved and do more things and that's
really what it's about Kerry is just getting involved in doing stuff right do something

(02:10:21):
like that Clyde guy we know just do something right Kerry what are you doing are you doing
something I just got some bad news can I just can I just leave for a second I'll be right
back yes okay I'm sorry well that is not good news okay well I guess after two hours and

(02:10:48):
11 minutes it's time to sign off anyway so thank you very much folks for watching please
remember the things that Jeff said especially about getting involved you bring enough people
and you bring them with you to your goal and you will win and you just got to make it too
big to rig and then we can change the world so let's do that together and hopefully here
at the Chris and Kerry show we can give you some ideas on how to do that so thanks again

(02:11:14):
don't forget to visit www.albertaprosperityproject.com my favorite educational society devoted to
Alberta prosperity for Albertans by Albertans in there you will find all of the solutions
that we need and we can get there and we will get there if we work together so night folks
here's my my cat Stumpy for you

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