250307 Alberta Statehood? with Jeffrey Rath

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What are you reading?

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I'm reading my brand new copy of Renew Your Mind by my friend A.C.
McGuire, who is the wife of my other friend A. McGuire.
That's right. That's right. That's awesome.
What are you reading?
Well, I'm reading.
Remember when we used to not go on the Internet to look at where we would be
traveling to? And we used to get these books and they would show.

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There was never a time like that.
Never a time like that.
Well, I happened to pick up the one out of my garage.
I was cleaning it out today and I looked at Idaho, Montana and Wyoming.
And I figured I better kind of look this up.
And since we're going to be really, really, really close neighbors,
possibly very soon.
So I wanted to see.
I heard they have good potatoes and mountains down there.

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You know what? I'm pretty sure half the hotels that are in here are probably closed
because this is from 2009.
So, ah, you know what?
I bet you I think our friend Richard Pryor still lives in Boise.
The Richard Pryor.
Yeah. Do you remember when he moved there?
Dana Carvey drove his car for him.
That was hilarious.

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What movie was it?
Well, I don't know.
Repo Man. It was something.
Movies. Anyway, anyway, this this book here.
Let's get this, Kerry.
So Alexis and Andrew came to visit from Ontario and she dropped off a copy of her book.
This is this is her.
Awesome.

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It's called Renew Your Mind.
And it's very interesting that they dropped this book off when they did,
because recently I've been going on Twitter.
No, not Twitter X or Facebook and reading comments.
And every now and then I feel like, man,
I really got to bleach my brain and just get what I just learned out of my head.
So this this book Renew Your Mind,

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I'm kind of excited to read it.
That's awesome. Maybe it'll maybe it'll help me get rid of some of that
negative energy that I see on social media these days.
Bleach your brain, bleach your brain.
Yep. Bleach your brain.
Brain. Yeah, not the other.
That's right. Anyway, what's going on tonight?
Well, tonight we're we're going to be talking with Mr.
Jeffrey Rath, who if anybody has been watching us over the last few years,

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know that we're pretty good friends with Jeff Rath because he is also
the lead counsel in your class action.
Remember that? Yes.
And with that, he has blown the should we say the Internet on fire?
I'm going to play the little clip that he did on Monday night

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with Rachel Parker, who was with True North.
And now she's on her own.
I'm going to play that.
And then we're going to bring Jeff on.
And we're going to talk a little bit more about why this particular video
has now been seen over six million views.
Yeah, let's have a look.
Well, there's a group of Albertans that are working together right now
to put together a delegation to go to Washington to talk to the Trump

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administration about Alberta petitioning for U.S. statehood.
It's quite evident that we're being governed by idiots in Ottawa
who don't understand that we can't afford a trade war with
our largest trading partner.
And rather than simply apologizing to President Trump
for not meeting our NATO commitment to not adequately securing our border,
apparently the Trudeau government has decided to declare a trade war

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and run up trillions of dollars in costs like they did during Covid
on a made up emergency.
So there's a number of us in Alberta that have had enough and
want to go speak with the Trump administration about the benefits
of Alberta joining the United States.
Wow. Isn't that awesome?
That was a full disclosure.
I am not a Alberta, 51st States, U.S.

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blah, blah, blah.
But we're definitely going to talk to Jeff and maybe at the end
of the conversation, we all will be.
Maybe we should just so we just bring him on right now
and waste some time.
Hi, Jeff.
How are you doing?
Good evening, guys. How are you?
Good, Ariel.
We're good.
We've been a busy guy.
Yeah, it's been quite a week, actually.

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Yeah, we had to reach out because we briefly talked about this topic
after the Injection of Truth on Monday.
And then, of course, we found out that you had done this interview
with Rachel Parker.
And since then, it has absolutely blown up the Internet so much
that I think I definitely need an autograph next time I see.

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Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah, just sign me.
Yeah. So lots, lots of interviews, lots of interest.
So tell us a little bit about, you know, what the plan is for that.
Like, and even how did it's how did the the idea even come about?
Because, I mean, we've talked about a lot of the Alberta Prosperity Project

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sort of ideas with independence and sovereignty, etc, etc.
And maybe you're frustrated with that.
Well, let's start off with what I've been really frustrated with.
I mean, you know, let's go back to, you know, Trudeau effectively
declaring martial law against Albertans, you know, when he did not like

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the smell of diesel fuel in Ottawa, got sick and tired of, you know,
Albertans peacefully protesting, you know, the destruction of our way of life,
destruction of our mobility rights, you know, all of all of the ridiculous
things that he did through COVID with no bona fide scientific basis.
Right. So, you know, his response to, you know, people from Alberta

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being upset is basically declare the Emergencies Act and run over
little old indigenous ladies with riot horses.
Well, you know, two of his cabinet ministers lament the fact that they couldn't
get leopard tanks to run people over with so they could reenact
Tiananmen Square, right, in Canada.
So, you know, I've been saying to everybody and I told, you know, some pretentious

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talk show host from Toronto today, I said, let's be really clear.
I said, this isn't a secession movement.
This is an independence movement.
And Alberta isn't seceding from Canada.
Canada seceded from Alberta the minute that it declared the Emergencies Act
against our citizens that were peacefully protesting in Ottawa.
And then I think there's a lot of, you know, you know, I was one of the co-founders

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of the Alberta Prosperity Project.
And, you know, my involvement with that also interestingly came out of, you know,
all the mobility restrictions and rights restrictions, you know, of the pandemic
where Trudeau is telling healthy, you know, Alberta men and women that have no

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symptoms, that they're not allowed to risk getting on a plane, you know, and to be
infected by vaccinated people, you know, who were just as capable of contracting
COVID, spreading COVID as unvaccinated people, you know, which was clear even
before those stupid mandates came in, you know.
So it wasn't based on science.

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Again, it was just based on Trudeau, you know, wanting to show that he could tell
people what to do.
And if you were, you know, weren't going to listen to him and have some
experimental needles stuck in your arm against your will, then he was going to
take your rights away and not let you get on a plane.
So, you know, and I was a guy, literally, I've got, you know, you know, I've got
some plane model from Air Canada to commemorate the fact that I've flown
over 2 million miles on Air Canada.

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I mean, I've spent most of my life on an airplane, you know, flying, you know,
flying from place to place.
So for me, not being able to get on an airplane was a pretty big change of
lifestyle for me.
And I actually said to somebody, you know, at the time, and this really is
what fueled my involvement in APP, I said, oh, well, I guess, you know, if

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Justin Trudeau, you know, isn't going to let me get on a plane and leave
Alberta, I'll just have to find a way to take my province with me and go, you
know.
So that's kind of, you know, like, as far as I'm concerned, you know, like,
you know, a lot of us have just had enough with all the stupid rights
restrictions.
I mean, I heard yesterday that Trudeau, you know, on his way out the door, came

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up with his other arbitrary, another arbitrary list of firearms that he's
afraid of, that he wants to prohibit on the way out the door.
I mean, this is the kind of stupidity that we're dealing with on the regular,
and we're done with it as Albertans, right?
So I thought that was stuff was for our own good, Jeff.
Well, you know, but I don't know what to say to that.

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You know, when you, you know, when you got, you know, somebody, somebody like
Justin Trudeau constantly trying to tell you what's good for you.
You know, I don't even know what to say.
I saw him crying on TV the other day.
I hope I contributed that in some way.
But anyway, I think he had he was pepper sprayed.
Maybe who knows?
Looked very red.
But anyway, I'm kind of losing the plot here.

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It's been a long week and I'm kind of a little bit tired.
But so that was sort of the start of all of this.
And then, you know, of course, you know, I'm, you know, I, you know, I'm a student
of history. I have an honours degree in political science.
You know, I have a pretty good sense.
And I've spent my career literally suing governments for a living.
And you have a pretty good sense of when you see things that are approaching a

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tipping point. Right.
And I think I wrote in one of my sub stacks, you know, a week or so ago that I
have a real sense that we were approaching a tipping point in history with
regard to, you know, Canada and Alberta independence, you know, in terms of the
ability that Alberta has now or the unique opportunity that Alberta has right
now, you know, to approach the Trump administration, to discuss whatever, what

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level of support that the Trump administration would be willing to, you
know, to give to, you know, Alberta independence to get Alberta the hell out
of Canada. Right.
So again, you know, we all have our grievances and every Albertan has their
own reasons for, you know, that support independence for getting out of Canada.
But I quickly I just want to hit the top sort of five reasons why this is such a

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great idea and why I think we could get a majority of people to vote yes in a
referendum this year. Right.
First big reason for leaving, leaving Canada, no more federal income tax if we
leave Canada. Right.
Second reason for leaving Canada, no more carbon tax.
Third reason for leaving Canada, no more federal excise tax.
So the carbon tax and the excise tax alone will cut everybody's fuel bills in

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half and home heating bills in half.
But every time you go to the pump, I went to fill up my truck today.
Diesel was a buck sixty a liter.
It would drop back down to 80 cents, which is about where it should be.
Right. Which is what the price of diesel would be in a free and independent
Alberta. Right.
So, you know, point number three, no excise tax.
Right. Point number four equalization.

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No longer will we be spending, you know, sending thirty nine billion dollars a
year in tax revenue out to the rest of Canada not to get any of it back.
Right. In any meaningful way from the government of Canada.
And, you know, subsidizing, you know, gold plated social services in Quebec,
you know, that we don't we don't we only dream of having in Alberta.

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So Quebec can run surplus budgets while Alberta is having to borrow money to
build roads, hire, build hospitals, pay our doctors, you know, a decent,
you know, appropriate wage, you know, all of those types of things.
Right. So all of that money would stay in Alberta would fuel a complete,
you know, you know, economic boom in Alberta through all of the economic

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activity that would be created by an extra thirty nine billion dollars a year
being in the Alberta economy.
You know, point, you know, the fifth point is that we could then, you know,
and it's a it'd be a requirement anyway for, you know, to become an independent
state that we'd have our own constitution and we could constitutionalize,
you know, a 10 percent flat income tax rate, constitutionalize a 10 percent flat

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corporate tax rate.
We could be the lowest tax regime in North America.
Right. And fuel an economic boom that like this province has never seen.
Right. And all of those reasons are enough to convince our fellow Albertans
that that independence from Canada would be a really, really good thing for us.

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We also then don't wouldn't need a passport to cross the border into,
you know, into Montana.
We wouldn't need to go through the rigmarole of US customs to go to
Las Vegas or to go to Palm Springs.
You know, we wouldn't have the six month limitation on living in the U.S.
if we wanted to own property in the U.S. and on and on and on.

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Right. So those are, you know, those are some of the advantages that I see
in this project that we're undertaking.
And to be clear, you guys, this whole 50 first state thing bugs me.
OK, because I'm not a 50 first state guy.
I find the whole 50 first state thing, you know, it's a loaded pejorative
term that people use 50 first state.
We're not the 50 first state.

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It's like to be really clear, the term that I prefer is Alberta statehood.
Right. Because, you know, we're pursuing options like there isn't a deal
that's been done behind closed doors with the Trump administration.
And we're not pursuing any form of agreement.
You know, we are a number of very concerned Alberta citizens that are

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undertaking a fact.
You're sending the fact finding delegation to Washington to initiate a
conversation on Alberta statehood.
And again, when we say statehood, it could be Alberta is an independent
state with much stronger economic with a much stronger economic union with
the United States, including open borders, zero tariffs on both sides of

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the border, free admittance of, you know, American capital to Alberta,
free admittance of Alberta capital into the United States, you know, kind of
like a, you know, a European Union type of arrangement is one possibility.
The other possibility would be an independent Alberta Republic recognized
with the status of a U.S. territory.
Right.

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Which is kind of the halfway house to statehood at any event.
Interestingly, a lot of the people that are on our steering committee and the
person in particular that I'm thinking about as a former member of parliament
whose research this issue quite extensively and gave me a really,
really interesting lesson the other day on, you know, this whole thing on the
issue and gave me the benefit of his knowledge, experience and research and

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was telling me that he had what he was a member of parliament was researching
this. He had a long discussion with Sarah, Sarah Palin about Alaska statehood.
And Sarah said, oh, yeah, she said it wasn't a done deal that Alaska was
going to become a state.
And it wasn't because the Americans weren't going to admit Alaska into the
into the union or into statehood.
It was because a lot of Alaskans didn't want to give up their status as a U.S.

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territory. Right.
Because the downside of territorial status like the U.S.
Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, whatever the downside is that you
don't get members of Congress, you don't get your two senators, whatever.
But the upside of territorial status is because, you know, don't listen,

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I forget Americans fought a revolution over no taxation without representation
because you don't have representation in the Congress and the Senate.
You don't have to pay U.S. federal income tax.
So, you know, really? Yeah.
Really interesting. I didn't know that.
So, yeah. So the independent territorial republic, you know, U.S.
territorial republic of Alberta with our own constitution, with our own

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legislature and Senate, you know, a new deal for everybody in the province of
Alberta, you know, is, you know, a very palatable option to consider.
And then, of course, there's the other option of full statehood.
And, of course, you know, part of the reason, you know, that our delegation,

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you know, would be, you know, wanting to discuss things with the U.S. is what,
you know, first of all, whether or not there's any appetite within the
administration to support this, you know, this referendum and support a
declaration of independence by Alberta, you know, in the 2025 calendar year,

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which is what we're seeking to do.
Or not. And then if so, what level of support would the U.S.
government be willing to provide to have that happen, you know, and, you
know, potentially or hypothetically at what cost?
Let's keep in mind, we're a delegation of citizens.
We're not empowered, you know, by our government.

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We will have retired members of parliament.
We actually have had expressions of interest from sitting MLAs that would
like to come as observers.
I'm obviously going to extend, you know, invitations to, you know, sitting
MPs that I know if they want to come, you know, as observers as well, just
so that they can report back to their constituents as to what's going on.

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You know, we have business people.
We have oil and gas developers, real estate developers, lawyers, doctors,
you know, all kinds of people.
You know, we have, you know, waitresses.
Oh, are you talking about yourself now, Chris?
Yeah.
But anyway, all kinds of different, you know, people, you know, we want to,

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you know, keep the group relatively small and manageable because again,
you know, it's a fact-finding, it's a fact-finding mission.
And what we're doing in the next couple of weeks is through APP,
Alberta Prosperity Project, we're going to be soliciting input from our
fellow Albertans in terms of what questions and concerns do they have

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with regard to statehood and what questions and concerns do they want to
have answered by, you know, the administration in Washington if we were
to go down the road to, you know, either independence with economic union,
independence as a republic, as a territory of the U.S., or full statehood,
and what would Washington, you know, be prepared to do for Alberta, you know,

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in each of those instances, right?
You know, and then obviously, you know, there's a number of issues that,
you know, have already been flagged for us.
I mean, there's a lot of people that say, I don't want to be in American state.
Their health care sucks.
And it's like, well, nobody's saying you're going to lose Alberta,
that Alberta health care is going to go away.
Like, why would it?
We have a, you know, we have a big HMO in Alberta that's called
Alberta Health.

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Lots of people belong, everybody belongs to the plan.
You know, probably the only difference with Alberta health care now and
Alberta health care post-independence in, you know, Alberta is that it would be
much better funded because we're no longer going to be spending, you know,
sending $39 billion a year out of the province not to get it back.
And certainly...
And likely more efficient.
Well, and other options with regard to health care in Alberta, including,

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you know, having a mix of private and public services available,
you know, kind of, you know, like they do in England, you know,
could be considered as a possibility without having, you know, somebody in
Ottawa, we're going to cut off your money.
We're going to...
The money we've taken away from you, we're not going to give it back to you.
You know, like all the stuff that we go through, you know, anytime anybody even

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suggests that there might be a better way to do health care than somebody in
Ottawa doesn't like, they basically threaten us with they're not going to
give us our money back, right?
So, I mean, that would come to an end.
So, you know, health care is an issue for people.
You know, obviously one of the big ones we have, you know, a lot of, you know,
we have an aging population in Alberta.

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We have a lot of people that are planning on retiring and living on a
fixed income and, you know, pensions and so on.
You know, we need to get assurances from, you know, the Trump administration that,
you know, Alberta pensions and savings and assets could be converted at par
into the US dollar, you know, as part of, you know, all of this, because that is a

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big issue.
I mean, you know, and, you know, quite frankly, like, unless we can address that
issue, I don't think that we can win a referendum.
I'll be frank on that.
So, let me face it.
If Alberta votes to, you know, be independent from the US, right?
The day, or from the US, from Canada, the day that vote happens, the Canadian
dollar trades at par with the Polish lot, right?
Yeah.

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So, right.
So, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's a legitimate problem and a legitimate question that needs to be
addressed.
And again, like, you know, for people watching, I mean, I really want to
reassure my fellow Albertans that this, all this is, is it's a discussion.
It's part of a democratic process where, you know, we're meeting as, you know, as

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individual citizens with, you know, with the government to, of the United States
to determine, you know, what our options are, what are the benefits of pursuing,
you know, of pursuing a particular path, what kind of benefits could accrue to
Alberta if we were to do that so that we could then come back to Alberta.
And obviously, we happily meet with, you know, Daniel Smith's caucus and report

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to, you know, the Alberta legislature on, you know, what we found, you know, we'll
happily be having town hall meetings in Alberta to report to our fellow
Albertans, you know, on, you know, what, you know, what it is that, you know, you
know, what it is that we've determined, you know, in our discussions and meetings,
you know, in the United States with regard to this, you know, we have no

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official sanction.
We don't need official sanction, right?
We're, you know, we're, you know, we're free sovereign individuals who are, you
know, or who are, you know, pursuing an investigation of our rights and
interests in the context of a democratic process.
And again, everybody needs to understand that before anything can happen, you
know, there has to be a referendum in the province.
There has to be a vote.

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The only question is whether or not, you know, we're all going to have to come
together under the auspices of the, you know, of the Alberta Prosperity Project
and, you know, raise the 600,000 signatures or whatever the number is that
Kenny put in 90 days or whatever ridiculous standard that Kenny built into

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the Citizens Initiative Act that he thought that, yeah, that he thought he
gleefully thought that no one would be able to achieve, you know, obviously, you
know, we'll be reaching out to a certain rocket builder for quote, unquote, tech
support to help us with that given the success they had with their get out the
vote operation in Pennsylvania that helped us swing that state and President

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Trump's favor.
But, you know, so, I mean, we're going to be working on all of these things and
discussing all of these things.
And again, you know, I want to reassure my fellow Albertans that this is, you
know, this is, you know, all we're doing is looking for information.
You know, we're, you know, we're adults.
You know, we think that we should as a, you know, as a province, given the
stupidity of what we've been seeing coming out of Ottawa and the fact that

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none of this is ever going to change, you know, we need to start considering what
our options are because our future as citizens of Alberta in a future Canada
is pretty bleak.
I mean, you know, Trudeau's run up $4 trillion in debt since he took over,
like literally tenfold increased the national debt from $400 billion to $4
trillion.

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We're back at a point where, you know, almost half of the federal budget is
going to be required to pay interest on the national debt.
You know, we, we damn near had the entire mortgage paid off.
I mean, $400 billion on the balance sheet is debt against, you know, a
country that has a $4 trillion GDP.
You know, that $400 billion a year is nothing.
It's not even, or $400 billion debt is nothing.

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It's not even the total amount of government spending in a, you know, in a
year.
I mean, we could have paid, you know, we could have paid it off in, you know, we
could have paid it off in two or three years if we chose to.
But now, you know, once again, Trudeau, a Trudeau has mortgaged the future of our
children and our grandchildren to such an extent that they will never get out of
it.
There is nothing but despair on the horizon for, you know, for the, our

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children and grandchildren remaining in Alberta.
And we need to start looking at options.
And then, you know, and then the other thing for me, of course, is that, you
know, this whole stupid tariff war that the Liberals started with the United
States for no reason other than to get, you know, Mark the, you know, the
Carney-Carny elected, you know, was completely unnecessary.

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You know, at no point did, you know, did, you know, we hear early on 30 days
ago that, you know, that, you know, I want to say Pierre Trudeau, but Justin
Trudeau asked President Trump what exactly Canada needs to do to avoid these
tariffs, you know, never, you know, it's not until this, you know, last week
where they're having these bullshit, you know, last minute discussions to try to

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get the 30-day extension on tariffs, on tariffs again, did Trudeau actually ask
President Trump exactly what he required in order to, you know, to not pursue any
further tariffs outside of the scope of the present free trade agreement? You
know, so all of this, you know, all of this shows to me that this, you know,

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this entire phony trade war that's been started, you know, was started for the
political purposes of the Liberal Party in Canada so that they could declare an
emergency, spend another trillion dollars, increase the UI benefits,
increase this, increase that, another orgy of government spending, and of
course, you know, the NDP have never, you know, have never thought to miss out on

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a gangbang of the Canadian taxpayer, so they're no longer going to support a
vote of non-confidence because they want to gleefully be party to spending
another trillion dollars of hard-working Albertans' money on, you know, on liberal
schemes to just piss money to the wind like they did during COVID, right? So, you
know, this is what's going on, and I think a lot of, you know, well-educated,

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well-meaning, thoughtful people in Alberta are going, we don't want to be
partying into this anymore. We want out of here, and we want to have an
opportunity to express our opinion in the form of a binding referendum on
Alberta independence and move on with our lives. You know, again, keeping in
mind that, you know, anybody voting yes in the day that Alberta declares

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independence, you know, your fuel prices are cut in half, your tax bill, you know,
you know, is basically cut by three-quarters, and you get to live in
one of the most prosperous and economically successful jurisdictions
in the world. You know, we literally turned, you know, Alberta into, you know,
into a much better, cleaner, you know, version of, you know, of Kuwait,

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you know, without, you know, with, you know, with our beautiful, beautiful...
Yeah, without the bad stuff, yeah.
Yeah, without all the bad stuff, right? So, you know, so, I mean, it's a real
opportunity, and I think, as, you know, adults, we should be allowed to have that
discussion and express our democratic will and our choice to our government,
you know, and the only question is whether Danielle Smith is going to force

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us to do it the hard way under the, you know, under the Citizens Initiative Act,
or whether she's actually going to demonstrate true leadership and, you
know, set a referendum date for, you know, November of this year and tell
everybody to start making their best case known as to why it is Alberta should
become independent or not become independent, right? So, you know, and again,

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like, you know, there's people have a legitimate attachment to Canada.
Some people love their new Canadian passports with their tracking chips in it
so that Justin Trudeau will always know where they are or wherever they are in the
world, right? You know, some people like the sense of security that comes from 24-7
government surveillance. I mean, you know, I'm not sure that I'm one of them,
but, you know, like, you know, that some people, that's very, very, very important

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to them, right? You know, and other people have this attachment to be part of a
greater whole and be part of, you know, being part of something bigger than a
mere province. And hey, you know, what I, you know, again, what I tell people is,
first of all, Canada does not recognize any renunciation of citizenship. So even
after, you know, Alberta declared independence and was recognized as being

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an independent nation state by the United States of America, every Canadian
with a valid Canadian passport would still remain a Canadian citizen. You
wouldn't lose your Canadian citizenship. And for those people that, you know,
don't want to remain with us in Alberta and be Albertans anymore because
we've offended you so much by expressing our democratic will, there's lots of
Canada left for you to go live in. You know, I mean, you know, and, you know, and

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for those people that even, you know, don't agree with us and say, well, I
didn't want Alberta to become independent. But, you know, hey, you can
still live here. You know, you're our friends and neighbors. I mean, we love
you. You know, we have a different view. You know, you have your Canadian
passport. You're still a Canadian citizen. You still have the right to live
here. Nobody's throwing you out. Right. And, you know, we all just carry on and
get along and exist together in a civil society, but a civil society that's far

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more prosperous, far less taxed, right. And far happier than the one we
currently live in now, where every day is a misery of waiting to see what the
liberals are going to do to us next. You know, like, you know, what are they
going to take away from us next? What are they going to tax us next? What are
they, you know, on and on and on. So, you know, for me, it's, you know, I think
it's a very valid and worthwhile project. I think for all the people that are

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screaming and yelling and, you know, calling people names. Oh, yeah, we
should come to the Kenny Haight tweet in a minute because I found that really
funny. But, you know, for the people screaming and yelling and calling people
names and all the rest of the stuff, calm down. I mean, there's this is
Canada. Like, this is, you know, this is still Canada. It's Alberta. We can talk
to one another as friends and neighbors and have a civil conversation, right. No

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reason for name calling. You know, I mean, it's, you know, it's all just
chill out and remember at the end of the day, we all have to live together.
Right.
And our friend, our friend Jason called you called you a kook on X, I think.
No, no, he called me a treasonous kook. I want the full title. I kind of
wear his badge of honor. You know, I'm a treasonous kook. I mean, Jason, people

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need to be reminded that Jason Kennedy was recently found by a justice of the
Court of Things, Betjard, Alberta to a plausibly engaged and misfeasance in
public office when he called when he caused Dina Hinshaw to fraudulently put
her name to chief medical officer of health orders that were in fact, Jason
Kennedy orders, you know, coming out of the cabinet to shut down our businesses,

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vaccinate us against our will, tell us how many friends we could have, you know,
all of the ridiculous bullshit that can be made us live through, you know,
through through the COVID pandemic, right. But, you know, but I'm not going
to call Jason names. I mean, I really don't know him. I've never met him. He
apparently was really upset with me because at one point in my career as a
lawyer, I had a client that was very upset that the Progressive Conservative

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Party of Alberta was being wound up in a manner that that client didn't feel
accorded with the rules and bylaws of that association and, you know, wanted,
you know, wanted our office to act in a manner that would assist them assist, you
know, people that had a strong attachment to the old Progressive
Conservative Party and Progressive Conservative brand, that they could

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continue, you know, to engage in politics under that name and branding,
you know, after the OCP was founded. But anyway, you know, you know, Jason
Kenny, you know, even though he now works doing marketing for a very large law
firm in downtown Calgary, doesn't really understand that, you know, lawyers

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don't necessarily, you know, don't necessarily are necessarily their
clients and clients aren't necessarily their lawyers. And, you know, I guess he
took some exception with the fact that I had a client that disagreed with
something he was doing. So I guess, you know, Jason's entitled to his opinion.
But what I found really entertaining about that was, you know, Jason engages
in all this name calling, and then Alberta speaks. So, you know, basically,

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the best part of that tweet was that the thousand comments or so underneath his
stupid tweet, you know, his silly tweet, you know, say, well, wait a minute,
Jason, like, we trust Jeff way more than we trust that stupid shot you forced in
our arm. And, you know, there's a lot of other, you know, a lot of other
comments that were a lot, a lot more colourful that involved calling him a

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number of names and, you know, and suggestions as to where he could go and
how he could go there and, and so on. But I mean, I think the the counter, you
know, and I'm not on Twitter, so I don't follow that garbage anyway. But, you
know, the counter friends of mine that were gleefully reporting this stuff to
me was it was something like 10 to one, you know, in favour of defending

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Jeff wrath versus, you know, versus Jason Kenny. And what I think really
clear about all of that, I don't know why he popped out of his little gopher
hole all of a sudden to start looking around and deciding he needs to call
people names. I saw he got his little Canada flag, Ukrainian flag, Israeli
flag, you know, next to his, you know, next to his name at the bottom. So
maybe he's thinking about running for office again, or maybe he wants to be a

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member of parliament or
he almost had a year without making one tweet. And all of a sudden in the last
few weeks that now he's kind of a theory, he's paying him. He's been hired.
Oh, controlled opposition, or as or as marketing anti anti independence
marketing or something. Oh, yeah.
We'll go for pops out of the hole. And, you know, so and but I mean, what's been

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really clear, what was really clear from that little exchange to me is that
Jason Kenny has no, you know, no political voice left in Alberta, nobody
wants to hear from him, nobody, nobody thinks that he has anything relevant to
say with regard to the conversation. And, you know, if support for
independence is as strong as the comments, you know, directed at Jason

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Kenny, you know, with regard to that one tweet are, you know, we win the
referendum, you know, in a walk, if you know, 10 to one, you know, 10 on a 10 to
one basis, all Albertans are, you know, pro independence and anti, you know,
can't, you know, Jason Kenny, who basically, you know, was thrown out of
office because he turned into a Trudeau liberal, right? Let's be clear, right.

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And obviously, we have a lot of Jason Kenny, cabinet minister holdovers, who
are a bunch of Trudeau liberals, who unfortunately appear to be getting
Daniel Smith some really bad advice and, you know, and dragging her off, you
know, dragging her off a very sound leadership path of being the only adult
in the room on the terra file. And instead, we have the Kenny cabinet
ministers.

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Stop selling American liquor.
Yeah, we need to hold hands with Justin Trudeau and Mark Carney and jump off the
cliff with them like lemmings, right? You know, and all we all need to die
together. We're all team Canada, we have to be Canadian. It's like, wow, like, are
you United Conservative Party members? Or are you Trudeau liberals? It sounds

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you sound like you're a lot of your Trudeau liberals. You know, even Pierre
Paul, the up to me sounds like a Trudeau liberal these days. I mean, you know,
it's somebody was joking around today saying that I heard somewhere that
there's actually a liberal. There's a liberal running for the leadership of
the Liberal Party. That's actually to the right of Paulie have on the tariff
issue, you know, like, you know, preaching, calling for restraints and

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all the rest of it. And, you know, true, you know, and there's Paulie being more
liberal than people running for the liberal leadership. So, you know, I just
kind of scratched my head and go, wow, this is where we're at with, you know,
the state of national politics in Alberta. I think it's evident we all
need to get the hell out, right?
Well, there's no conservative voice left here. There really isn't.

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Well, you know, I suppose, you know, but we all need to remember, you know,
we're, you know, like all I think the three of us, you know, are very uniquely
positioned to understand the voice of the grassroots, right? And understand
where the party's at. And I think right now we understand where the, you know,
the UCP is that a lot better than Danielle does, unfortunately, because she's

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stuck in the Edmonton cabinet echo chamber, listening to all the Kennyites,
right? Yeah, that speak for the townies as opposed to the rest of us who were,
you know, the real Alberta, right?
And that's a really good observation too, because of course, we went through
what? A good year, maybe 16 months of going around and doing the town halls.

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And yet even in that town hall, it was a very much of an echo chamber, right?
And so she was only hearing what was well, initially, if you remember this far
back, one of our first town halls, I think was up with Mitch Sylvester up in
Bonneville. And she was like, wow, I didn't realize you guys took this stance.
And then over the course of a few months, she changed her stance on a few things.

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And then of course, we go through the UCP AGM and that AGM, of course, you know,
Bill of Rights and blah, blah, blah. And then things have just gone, I think,
south since then.
Well, no, but on top of it, you know, and I think that, and I think it's a real
issue, frankly. I mean, you know, I don't think Premier Smith understands how much
work all of us went to, to make sure that she got that 93% approval that she had

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at the last AGM. You know, all of us were involved in a lot of arm twisting and,
you know, talking to our fellow, you know, fellow Albertans and saying, look,
you know, we know that she's not behaving perfectly right now and she's not, you
know, fully supportive of all of our issues.
You know, even on the Bill of Rights thing, you know, I knew the minute they

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opened up the statute book on that, the bureaucrats would get involved and
actually weaken our rights rather than strengthen our rights, because that's
what, you know, that's what all these WF communist bastards do to, you know,
do to us to maintain their control.
So, you know, notwithstanding all the, you know, notwithstanding that all of us
got together and rallied behind, you know, Premier Smith and did our best to

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make sure that you got a strong show of support.
But I don't think she understands how much, you know, how much work and arm
twisting went in to get her that level of support.
And I think it may have given her a false sense of security or a false sense of,
you know, a false sense of where the base is at, vis-a-vis her leadership, you know,
because the simple fact of it is, I mean, we're all saying like, look, you know,

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think about what the alternative could be.
Do you want to be governed by it?
Jeremy Nixon, you want to be governed by it?
You know, you know, so let's all be careful here and hang on to the leader that we've
got rather than opening the door to, you know, to, you know, to an alternative that
could be far worse.
Right.
Yeah.
So, you know, I think that needs to be remembered, but I think that, you know,

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that Daniel Smith also needs to remember that, you know, look at the turnouts that
we've had at the last number of AGMs, right?
Yes.
Those are, those are, those people are us, right?
They're farmers, ranchers.
There are people that are concerned, you know, you know, about the schools drifting
off into woke land, you know, that are out there to protect their kids from, you

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know, from, you know, you know, the accesses of, you know, of, you know, woke
education, you know, and, you know, all of the foolishness that parents are, have
been concerned about, you know, coming in.
Not only that, but the people, the people that do show up at the AGMs, of course,
they, they're sacrificing, they're sacrificing their time.
You know, if it's in...

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Money that they don't have.
Exactly.
If it's in Edmonton or Red Deer, they got to go, it got to get there.
They, they probably stay overnight for a couple of days.
They have spent thousands, if not millions of dollars collectively in order to, to
do that, to empower the premier to say, look, we, we got your back.
We want you to, to do this only to have, again, it falls short.

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Well, and that's it.
And I mean, and I kind of, I got a kick out of the last couple AGMs.
That I went to because I'm running into all kinds of old, you know, like rancher
buddies and people I haven't seen for, you know, for ages from, you know, from
rodeoing and doing stuff with horses and you know, whatever.
And it's like, why are you here?
We're really worried about our kids' future.
We're here because, you know, I've never been involved in politics.

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I bought a membership and I'm here because I'm really worried about
my kids and my grandkids.
So we've got all of these people that are involved in the party that understand
the importance of being engaged in politics because they're worried about
their kids' futures, right?
Like you don't think those people aren't ready, you know, aren't ready to, you
know, if push came to shove to do what it took to make sure we had a referendum

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this year, if they fully understood that what's at stake, you know, and that, you
know, that their kids, you know, that, you know, that their kids' futures would
be fully secured at a independent Alberta, right?
Of course they would, you know, all of those people are, you know, are us, right?
Like, you know, this, this is why my phone's been ringing off the hook.
This is why I could barely get through my email anymore, you know, like this

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week, because I've got so many people that are emailing me, expressing support,
wanting to get involved, wanting to, you know, volunteer, wanting to, you know,
I've been, I've literally been on the phone, you know, 24, you know, almost
24 seven all week this week.
Um, you know, just trying to return as many calls as I can of, you know, my
fellow Albertans and people that are supporting, uh, you know, what we

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are trying to do, right?
So you've had so many people in support and giving support a certain percentage.
Have you had anybody call with any slamming you, any threats
or anything like that?
Oh, no, of course.
Right.
Cause that's what the, that's, you know, that's what all these crazy
left-wing assholes do.
I don't see, I'm sorry.
I'm, I'm tired.
So I should watch.

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So that's the right word.
It's like, you know, phoning my office and, you know, making death threats
and, you know, all this kind of stuff.
And I mean, you know, like, you know, but it was kind of funny.
It was this, and I shouldn't laugh about this stuff, but it's, you know, I've,
I've, we've obviously phoned the RCMP and the RCMP here now going to be very
involved in monitoring this and they assure me that, you know, they'll be

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tracking these people down and appropriate action is going to be taken.
And then, you know, all of that kind of stuff.
So we'll see what happens.
But, um, you know, um, somebody that I, somebody that I know that's, uh, you
know, very close to the, you know, very close to the premier cabinet, you know,
was trying to gauge what level of support there was on our side of the argument.
And they said, well, you know, like what kind of support you think you have?

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And I said, well, if you engage from the phone calls coming into my office, I
said, we're, you know, 20 to one expressions of support versus death threats.
I said, I think that's pretty good.
You know, I mean, what, you know, what do you say?
I mean, we had some asshole got phoning back.
It was like, you know, screaming at one of my assistants and like the fifth time
he phoned back, it's like, okay, this is now the fifth time that you've called.

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Right.
Just so that, you know, you're over the line into criminal harassment and you're
going to, you know, they'll be on the RCMP list, right?
Click the hang up and it didn't call back.
Right.
So it's like, you know, it's just like everybody needs to calm down.
Right.
This is, you know, there is no secret deal being cooked up with the Trump
administration, you know, we're, you know, we're, you know, independent, you

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know, sovereign Alberta citizens, right.
That are engaged in a conversation with, you know, um, an administration
over what level of support they might or might not provide to, you know, um,
the citizens of Alberta, if we choose to take a certain democratic path by it,
or let you know, through, you know, through the ballot box, you know,

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there's nothing wrong with this.
It's part of a conversation.
Surely anybody that are contemplating, um, you know, discussing these issues,
voting on these issues, you know, one would think that getting some facts and
doing some fact finding rather than just, you know, like dealing with feelings.
Let's, you know, let's keep your feelings.
I want to have my facts.

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Right.
So, you know, getting some facts together and finding out, you know, what the
feasibility of this is, whether it is at all, you know, again, I'll be, I'll be
frank without, um, you know, without, um, uh, us treasury support on the conversion
of Canadian dollars to us dollars.
And, you know, and the risk that that costs are pensioners and RSPs and the

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rest of it.
I, you know, I don't know if we can win a referendum.
That's right.
That might just be, that would be, you know, that could possibly be a deal breaker.
Who knows?
Right.
I mean, you know, and then on the other side, I mean, if that were the case, we'd
have to make sure that the numbers were, you know, the, the, the numbers on the
tax relief side and the economic benefit side and all the rest of it were
sufficiently strong, you know, to, you know, to justify that kind of short

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term risk.
Right.
Yep.
And we don't have mass mass immigration into Alberta just because they'll go,
Oh, great, I can double my money.
Or, yeah, well, you know, as far as those types of things, I mean, obviously
there's going to have to be some, you know, some rules in and around this.
You know, there's going to have to be, you know, for a successful referendum,
there's going to have to be some engagement by the Alberta legislature.

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Right.
And the big issue is, you know, is, you know, the premier are going to demonstrate
true leadership and assist and cooperate in this project or, you know, are, you
know, is the base of the United conservative party, you know, going to
have to decide whether or not we need new leadership to help us go through the,
you know, through the referendum process.

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Yeah.
Right.
Cause I mean, we do need, we, you know, we, we do need the support of the
legislature and we need, you know, and we're going to need legislative support.
There's no two ways about it.
Right.
Um, you know, the interesting place that we find ourselves in history right now.
Is that the base of the UCP party, including the control of the, you know,
control of the provincial board is us.

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Right.
Like, you know, it's people that share our viewpoint.
It's people that are, you know, APP take back Alberta, um, you know, good, hard
working Albertans that, you know, that actually care about the future of this
province, you know, as opposed to a bunch of Trudeau liberals sitting in a UCP
cabinet meeting, pretending to be conservatives.
Right.
Yeah.

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Jeff, you, you talked about the referendum a lot now.
I want to quickly point out, cause there's been some comments about this.
Um, the first step to any of these options for Alberta, whether we stay in
Canada under new terms or we're independent or become a state or a
territory or whatever, uh, the referendum is always the first part of that path,
no matter which direction we go after that.

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Right.
Do you want to, do you want to just maybe quickly go over how that works and why
we have the clarity act and how it impacts us here in Alberta?
Well, you know, and there's varying interpretations of the clarity act.
Some people actually think that the clarity act needs, and this is, this is
a, uh, a legal view that I disagree with means that even if you have a clear

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question, right.
Um, and the clear majority votes, right.
That any, um, independence of a province from Canada would take the
agreement of Ontario and Quebec, right.
For that province to leave.
And I think under the present circumstances, that's a, you know, that's
a fairly problematic interpretation because of course, why would Quebec,

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you know, ever agree or why would Ontario ever agree, um, you know, to allow
the cash cow of confederation to walk out the door and leave that, you know, leave
them, you know, sitting on the curb, sucking their thumb with their Polish
Lottie's in their pocket, right.
So, you know, the way I look at it is at the end of the day, if we have a

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referendum and a clear majority of Albertans vote on a clear question and
the United States of America recognizes Alberta as an independent nation state,
along with any number of other, um, uh, any other, um, uh, number of nation
states in the world, um, you know, much like the, the state of Israel came into

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being, the state of Alberta will exist, right.
And, you know, we'll be moving forward on that basis, right.
Um, you know, whether, whether Ontario and Quebec like it or not, right.
So, you know, uh, you know, I, you know, I take a very different view of the
clarity act than, than some people do.
I think we look at the secession reference and, you know, the main, you

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know, the main thrust of it is you need to have a clear question, um, and, uh,
you know, and a, uh, a clear majority vote voting in favor.
And then at that point, you know, that's, you know, where the negotiations start
and where we get to tell Canada, um, you know, that they can keep all of their
debt because we prepaid our share of it.

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And, uh, it's been nice knowing you and we want to talk about, you know, how
we're going to continue to trade with you.
And, you know, we want to continue to, um, uh, you know, buy and sell goods and
continue to allow free passage of Canadian citizens through the territory of
Alberta, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Um, uh, you know, um, you know, and figure out ways to, you know, coexist

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on a going forward basis, maintain a robust economic relationship with Canada.
Well, you know, you know, directly strengthening, you know, or economic
ties to the United States for the benefit of Alberta.
So, so, so do you mind if I just jump in there for one quick second though?
Sure.
You're never quick.
The big thing that I can see with this is everything that you've, you, you've

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said, I totally agree with and everything that I get you say has multiple steps
in order to get to that particular place.
Right.
This is going to take years to do.
So even though we know, I think we get to the referendum this year.
Okay.
Well, like, let's say even if we did that, is it dependent on what our, uh,

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our own federal government is going to be, uh, whether it's a liberal or PC, or
would it also matter whether or not Trump is, uh, it's the end of Trump's term
in four years, right.
And, and then maybe, maybe a Democrat is elected.
God, yeah, but no, but as far as it goes, I mean, you know, we have a, you know, if

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we have a, um, uh, you know, uh, a clear question and a clear majority on a clear
question voting for independence, you know, um, and our independence is recognized
by the United States of America in this calendar year, right.
Then, you know, everything else is just a matter of, you know, of, uh, negotiating
and finalizing the details.

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Right.
You know, so, you know, that's kind of how, you know, kind of how I look at it.
Right.
Um, you know, maybe I'm being overly simplistic and we all know how bureaucrats
in Ottawa like to overcomplicate things, but I don't think.
Yep.
The other thing I want to mention about Jeff in case our viewers, uh, maybe
you're just coming in now, uh, Jeff has been a lawyer for a long, long time.

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Different.
He's gone through, I think all the colors of the rainbow in terms of the, uh, the
government out there.
Blue, red, orange, you name the color.
He's probably gone through it.
You name them, you name them.
I've sued them.
And the reason I bring that up is because again, one of the arguments is, is well,
you know what, we'll just wait until the libs are out or we'll just wait until

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whatever, because that's worked out well before all the colors and, and, and with
your expertise and your knowledge, it's like, we, we can't afford to keep going
this way.
Well, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
it's that old cliche, right?
The definite definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and

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over again, and expecting a different result.
Right.
So, you know, that's kind of where you're kind of where we're at with this.
And unfortunately, let's look at where we're at at this point in history.
You know, Pierre Paul, the, the way he's campaigning in Quebec and Ontario,
he's just liberal light.
You know, it's kind of, it's, it's kind of, it's really unfortunate that it's
like, um, Aaron O'Toole all over again, right?

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Um, you know, during COVID, it's okay.
I'm going to lock you down nicer and I'm going to vaccinate you less harshly, but
you still have to get vaccinated.
There's your bowl of soup waiting.
You know, yeah, exactly.
And you know, as opposed to standing on principle, and I think that cost
obviously cost them the elections.
It's like, well, where's the differentiation?
And I think, you know, you guys read my subsets from time to time, because you

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know what a jerk I am and how I try to write for the entertainment of my
write those, I write those things from my entertainment, the entertainment of
my friends, but that one's there.
Sure.
And then, oh, the other one you can put up too, if you don't mind.
I have two new, um, uh, I have a new domain that everybody's going to really
like, and we sort of, uh, have posted the purpose of it and we're going to be

(51:56):
building it up more and more as we go.
But the new domain is Alberta statehood.com.
Yeah.
Capital a Alberta capital S statehood.com.
And you don't need capitals in the domain name.
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
I was worried when I was worried when my tech guy did that, I went like, why

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don't you have fricking capitals in the middle of the system?
It's just easier to read it.
Right.
So yeah, so it's albertastatehood.com and we kind of have an introductory page
as to why Alberta statehood.
And we're talking about statehood in the context of, you know, of basically
three different options, you know, uh, full independence with an economic, you
know, full economic union with the United States, um, full independence with

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territorial, uh, you know, U S territory status or, um, uh, independence, uh, with
a view towards, uh, full, you know, full U S statehood, right?
So those are the options that we're, you know, that we're considering, you know,
along with acknowledging that the other option is, you know, stay in Canada,
remain, you know, mired in the status quo, continue to pay two or three times

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as much in taxes as we should be paying as Albertans, um, you know, continuing
to suffer, you know, the depredations of the whims of whatever, um, elected
dictator happens to be in the PMO, uh, arbitrarily exercising powers through
order and council on an ongoing basis.
Um, uh, you know, th you know, those are kind of the choices and that

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albertastatehood.com we're setting that out.
And I've also attached links to, you know, all of my, um, uh, you know, previous,
um, substacks, which, you know, some, some of you may or may not find somewhat
amusing, right?
So, but, and then the other one was, you know, in the context of that, like I

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would urge everybody to read one that I wrote called the little Justin stripes a
terra for, and, um, we put a 13 point plan in there that I wrote with the
clock with, you know, the assistance of both, um, uh, Lieutenant Colonel David
Redmond, who's an expert on Alberta, you know, on Canadian border security.
And, uh, my, uh, local MP, uh, who, you know, I'm on, you know, relatively

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friendly terms with, you know, in the hope that Pierre Paul, we have would see
that as a viable, you know, campaign platform alternative to what's being
done by the liberals, but unfortunately, the only aspect of it, the peer, and I,
and I know it's gotten into peers hands through two different sources that I'm
aware of, right?
Uh, the only part of it that he's glommed onto is perhaps that, you know, the

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suggestion that perhaps fentanyl kingpins, um, you know, should be jailed
for life.
My suggestion to my 13 point plan is anybody caught crossing the Canadian
US border with trafficking way to fentanyl, that would be, you know, anything
more than a microgram of fentanyl should be given life imprisonment with no
possibility of parole.

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And that word needs to get out sooner rather than later, right?
Um, but yeah, there's, there's a lot there to look at.
And of course, you know, uh, I, and I've been talking a lot lately about sovereignty
and how this whole mess that we're in right now with, you know, the tariffs and
what are, you know, with Canada being insulted on the regular as not being a
sovereign nation is a direct result of feckless politicians in Ottawa, not

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understanding the importance of meeting our international defense, um, uh,
commitments.
So how can we, as a sovereign nation have belonged to a mutual defense
organization that requires us to pay 2% of GVR GDP towards the collective defense
of everybody within that organization.
And we continually underfund that commitment by a hundred percent every

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year, right?
So we, you know, and what I've been saying lately is that we've effectively
become a mill, Canada has become a military protectorate of the United
States of America and nobody, and nobody in Canada should be the least bit
surprised when our military protector, right, is making demands of them that
they don't find particularly friendly anymore.

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I mean, you just have to, you know, you just have to look at the treatment of
the vassal States of the Roman empire to understand the position that our
ridiculous, feckless politicians have put us into by thinking that Chi Chi
trains running from, you know, uh, Montreal to Toronto for $40 billion are
more important than apologizing to president Trump for underfunding our

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NATO commitment and announcing immediately that we're going to address
our trade imbalance with the U S our underfunding of NATO and our border
security by placing a $50 billion order for armored personnel carriers,
Blackhawk helicopters, Apache helicopters, surveillance drones, attack
drones, um, you name it, you know, by way of military equipment to work in

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joint operation with the U S forces to, you know, to, you know, completely
eradicate all border crossings across the Canadian border at anything other
than a controlled border checkpoint.
I mean, how hard was that to do?
Had we, had they done that we wouldn't be having this stupid tariff discussion.
But of course, but of course, right.

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In fact, Trudeau would have invited down to the white house.
Trump would have put his arm around them and said, what a wonderful guy that
he is for, you know, doing the Canadian thing and apologizing and doing, you
know, I'm doing the right thing.
But of course this whole tariff war was provoked intentionally so that they
can now have another liberal created crisis, just like COVID, right.

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So that they could then use a crisis that they created to spend a trillion
dollars that are all going to be paid for by Alberta, right.
Um, on the so-called national emergency that they created, right.
Just wait till next week.
Oh yeah.
To get, you know, to get, but you know, Mark Carney elected as the
new liberal dictator of Canada.

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Yeah.
I mean, that's what this is all about.
I mean, Trump's Trump's no dummy.
He's figured it out.
He was tweeting about it the other day.
Like he knows that that's what Trudeau's doing because there was no reason for
this, you wait a month and then you ask Trump exactly what he wanted you to do
to keep from being terrified, you know, you're just make up some half ass
and I, and Redmond and I actually had a conversation with this.
He was Jeff.
He says, did you see that Trudeau announced that he's going to surge 10,000

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troops to the Canadian border?
He says, we don't have 10,000 troops that we can surge anymore.
Where the hell does he think he's going to get the manpower from?
I said, no, no, no, David.
I said, he was speaking politician.
He didn't say surge troops.
He said surge personnel.
So what he's going to do is he's shuffling around all the bureaucrats
within Canadian customs.

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He's sending a bunch more donors.
He's sending a bunch more donor eaters to man the checkpoints and he might,
you know, hire another 1500, you know, you know, bureaucrats, because it's
not like we don't have enough of them.
We can just repurpose some of the ones we have.
Right.
But, you know, and he's going to move a bunch more bureaucrats to the border.
And that's the 10,000 personnel that he's surging to the Canadian border, you know?

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And then, you know, and then the so-called fentanyl czar, I mean, former deputy
minister in Trudeau's government, friend of Trudeau's, you know, like, oh, yeah.
And what do they know about fentanyl?
What do they know about border security?
Right. Like nothing.
Right.
You know, if you wanted, if you wanted to have a real border czar, you'd get
somebody like, you know, Hillier or you get somebody like, you know, you know,

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like, you know, somebody who's actually, you know, understands what it takes to,
you know, shut down and interdict the border, you know, like, you know,
like guys like David Redmond and guys, you know, there's no shortage of guys
in the country that could do it.
You know, there's, you know, lots of generals that, you know, that retired
from the armed forces to get out of, you know, the foolishness of having to deal
with campons in the men's infantry barracks.

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I mean, any one of them you could have brought back and put in charge of shutting
down fentanyl production or fentanyl crossing the Canadian border.
But no, let's get, you know, let's get a bureaucrat who happens to be a pal of
Trudeau's and we'll just call them a fentanyl czar.
I mean, it's like, you know, Kabbalah Harris was a border czar.
I mean, it's the same level of, you know,
it's the same, you know, the same level, right?

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Supposedly she's going to be running for governor of California.
I heard that today, too. Oh, that's oh, wow.
That's that's a perfect fit, actually.
Just just when we thought we heard the end of her talk,
babbling on about Venn diagrams, I guess, here we go.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, Jeff, the of course, the big question is, is so you're you're planning on going

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down to Washington, D.C. Is there any plans of a date of when you're doing that or
who you're bringing? Yeah, actually, you know, like it was really funny.
I had this conversation with journalists from Toronto today,
and they're a talk show guy in Toronto news.
And he was getting really aggressive.
I want to know who you're talking to at the White House.
And I almost felt like saying Nanya,

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like Nanya business.
I don't even know.
I'm not telling you that.
I said, you know, I said, you know, our contacts are a very senior level.
I said, I'm already you know, I said, you know, I'm already, you know,
being inundated with threats.
There's all kinds of people that are trying to, you know, trying to, you know,
undermine and destroy and distract from what we're trying to do.
You know, I'm not going to have you bothering the people that were, you know,

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that we're talking to within within within the White House.
But anyway, are, you know, the people as well, you know, the liberal government,
you know, was saying they were talking to people in the White House.
And it turned out they weren't talking to anybody at any level.
They were talking to people higher than the janitor.
And I said, well, you know, I can assure you the people that we're talking to.
I said, given that Elon Musk tweeted out yesterday that he's in full support of

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the state, I can assure you the people that we're talking to are
at a significantly higher level than the White House janitor.
The advice that we're getting is that the
entire administration is very excited about the prospect of Alberta independence.
And, you know, and, you know, we'd like to, you know,
like to see us not next week or the week after, but as, you know, as soon as three

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or four weeks from now, because they're still finishing the cabinet appointment
process, getting people into positions, getting things running,
you know, digging their way out from underneath the, you know, all of the crime
and corruption that's been uncovered by Doge, like one of the one of the ones
tool on this one or not, but one of the one of the ones that

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the Doge uncovered apparently is some Democrat was paid at this
point forty nine million dollars to design a logo.
Right. Not a website, not a computer system.
It sounds like something that was happening in Canada.
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. And I laughed.
I said, I can draw stuff.
I had done it for a million and a half.

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But I mean, this is the kind of crap and
corruption that Elon's team is uncovering in the US.
I mean, you know, I wish Pierre Paulia
wasn't the Berlite and I wish Pierre Paulia.
I really do hope Pierre Paulia wins.
You know, there needs to be a full audit
of everything that's going on under the under the true Dohontah.
And every single bureaucrat that's been hired in the last eight years needs to be

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very closely scrutinized and the size of the Canadian bureaucracy needs to be
trimmed back by at least 100 percent by whoever the next government is in Canada.
Like, let's face it, if Alberta if Alberta leaves,
they're not going to be able to afford them anyway.
So, yeah.
So, you know, they better think about some serious belt tightening in Ottawa.
I think you can kiss the Choo Choo train goodbye.

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And, you know, some of the other stuff that
Trudeau is trying to build into the system on the way out the door.
But anyway, you know, you know, that's where that's where things are at.
I mean, you know, we're being told, you know, yeah, we really want to see it.
But it's like, give us three to four weeks to get organized.
And then we'll have some time and space for you.
And we're saying great, because I said we want that time and space to you.

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Right.
So through the Alberta Prosperity Project,
you know, we're initiating a consultation process with our fellow citizens.
We're going to be soliciting
questions from our fellow citizens like, hey, what is it about, you know,
independence that scares you? What do you what do you want to know about,
you know, the United States, you know, what would what would you like to ask,

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you know, the the present U.S.
administration as to what they would do to support Alberta statehood?
You know, we want to hear people's concerns.
We want to hear everybody's ideas.
We want to have an open dialogue with our fellow citizens.
Yeah. Right.
So, you know, so this gives us some time to do that, gives us some time to,
you know, put together, you know, professional briefing packages,

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you know, you know, putting, you know, putting documents together and, you know,
in, you know, in forms, you know, that are, you know, that, you know,
that makes sense for the purposes of what we're doing, which is, you know,
basically, you know, an exploratory fact finding, you know, mission
on behalf of our fellow citizens.
And then, you know, following that, we would be looking to come back to Alberta

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and we would have the honour of being able to, you know, present this information
at town halls across the province and, you know, share what we found, you know,
with our fellow citizens, solicit their input, you know, and, you know,
and continue to move forward, you know, in encouraging our government
in supporting a really simple concept, which is what the hell is wrong

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with asking the adult citizens of Alberta on a regular basis
what their future should look like, right?
And, you know, on something as important as should Alberta remain in Canada
or should Alberta be an independent nation?
Like, I personally, you know, I personally advocated over the years,
I think Chris knows this, you know, for the concept that we should have

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a referendum bill, like we should have an independence referendum bill in Alberta.
That's what we need to pass.
And then every five years, right, following the date that equalisation
is reimposed on Alberta without our consent, we should have a mandated
provincial referendum on whether we want to remain in, you know, in Canada.

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Yeah. And why not?
Yeah. And I mean, not like Quebec where, oh, every so often we can get organized,
you know, to have a referendum.
You know, I want, you know, I want it, I want it legislated that every five years
following the reimposition of equalization, you know, that we need to have
a referendum in this province asking Albertans, you know, whether they want

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to stay or go, you know, should I stay or should I go now?
Right.
Yeah. And I could be a task for the Ministry of Alberta Sovereignty.
Yeah, exactly. Right.
Except then we're bloating the government again with another.
Oh, right. Yeah.
I guess the government bloat. Yeah, I don't think we, you know, I don't think we need,
you know, I don't think we need an entire ministry for that.

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I think it could easily be done through.
We could rename one.
Yeah. No, I think, you know, honestly, it's like, you know,
staying in Canada is such bullshit.
I think I would I would I would encourage that we do it through the Department of
Agriculture, but that's just me.
Good point. I got to interject this.
And then, Jeff, I told you we'd only keep you for an hour or a little bit over.

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But for those of you watching, if you have any questions about
the more technical things that we've we've touched on here, specifically the Clarity Act,
the path to independence, the path to state statehood, any of those things,
go over to the www.albertaprosperityproject.com.
That's what they do.
They are an educational society with the goal of educating

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educating Albertans on the benefits and merits of Alberta sovereignty and Alberta
independence so you can find everything you need to know right there.
If you appreciate the work that they're doing, I would encourage you to not only
send a donation to help maintain the current web page and structure that's
happening, set up a recurring monthly donation so that there's money in the bank

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so that we can keep educating people as to these things, because I did say and I
said to Jeff, the first step is a referendum.
That's not quite true.
The first step is a massive educational
campaign so people know what they're dealing with and what the question
involves and what the answer is involved.
So, yeah, please, please support the
Alberta Prosperity Project and check that web page out for all the info on any of this.

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And Jeff, do you have any or Kerry, do you guys have anything
in closing that you want to touch on?
We've I think we've covered just about everything there in that hour that we can.
Yeah, I mean, there's a thousand of one different things that we could go on.
But I think for the most part, it would be the technical thing.
So I'm really anxious.
I just say go for it, Jeff.
Like, yeah, I'm totally interested in what you're going to come back and report on.

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Never mind that what the whole process will end up being.
And I think that is going to be pretty exciting going forward, you know,
and whether or not you presented to a town hall, whether or not you come back
and present it here, whatever you need to do.
I'm just anxious to hear how that process is going to go.
Yeah, no, you know,
I really appreciate you guys letting me come on.
I know you have a really, really large audience.

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And, you know, I wanted to, you know, to all my fellow Albertans.
I just wanted to say, you know, thanks for paying attention.
And hopefully, you know, you will continue to support
this or you'll support this project.
And if you want to help and if you want to demonstrate your support for this
project again, you know, volunteer with the Alberta Prosperity Project.

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Make sure that, you know, you know, that,
you know, the Alberta Prosperity Project know that you support this drive towards
independence and again, sign up and join as members because the more members
the Alberta Prosperity Project has, the more it rattles,
you know, the powers that be in this province, because when they when they

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realize that the Alberta Prosperity Project and the Alberta Statehood Project,
you know, represent far more Albertans than our members of the United
Conservative Party of Alberta, that's when they start getting really worried.
So, you know,
yeah, there's 60,000 of us through APP.
And I know it's just a little bit less than that as UCP members.

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So, you know, everybody, you know, if you
want to show your support for Alberta Statehood, please consider joining APP.
And there'll be updates on, you know, on what we're doing on their website.
And there will also be updates on what we're doing on albertastatehood.com.
So anyway, thank you all for your time and attention.
It's always an honour and a privilege and a pleasure to be able to speak to my
fellow Albertans. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jeff. We we love having you on.
It's always entertaining and very educational.
And we never get a word in edgewise.
We don't need to. You do all the work.
I don't know if you saw it this afternoon.
Marty, Marty, I was on I was on with Sean Newman and Tewes and Marty up north came
on and he got really upset because I was over talking.
So anyway, I said, OK, I'm going to shut up now for 10 minutes.

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Marty, you can talk for 10 minutes. Right.
So anyway, I set the timer on my phone.
And every so often I hold up my phone to show the time off my phone.
And Sean, of course, Marty doesn't get it.
Sean is just killing himself.
And Sean was like, well, Jeff, what do you think about that?
I hold up my timer. I have not had 10 minutes yet.

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We're having fun. Oh, man.
That's good. That's good. Good.
Well, best of luck to you, Jeff.
And yes, and again, we'll thanks for thanks so much for taking the time out.
And we will be in touch and excited to hear what you're going to report back on.
My pleasure, guys. Thanks again for having me.
Cheers.
Good night.

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Well, oh, now it's really dark because you're right.
There we go. You can see me now.
Yeah, you go.
Well, that was great.
No, that was that was awesome.
And again, so I'm still, you know, I'm anxious to hear what he's got to say
about it, you know, the we've had this conversation before.
And we have this conversation all the time that we we talk about Alberta Prosperity

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project, you know, I wear my Canadian hockey jersey and
do I proudly fly my Canadian flag anymore?
Well, I do. I certainly don't boo anybody.
Oh, speaking of which, can I do this? Can I do this?
I just want to do this. Oh, yeah, do it.
Yeah, try to buy Canadian products and forgo bourbon and.

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Other classic American products.
Yeah, we're probably going to keep booing like Facebook, but let me tell.
Oh, man, keep booing again.
Anyways, I can't stand that guy.
No, he when I watched him talk about how he's going to be there,
the liberal government is going to be there right to the very end for Canadians

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every day and every minute and every second and every nanosecond and every
picosecond and all the time in between the seconds, I was thinking.
Wow, you weren't there for me when I was
exercising my rights as a Canadian, you told me I was a member of a small fringe
minority with unacceptable views and that I wouldn't be tolerated in society.
It's true.

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Yeah, that's what I remember.
Yeah, no, he's definitely dividing.
And likewise, I mean, what the hell is he still doing stuff if he's prorogued
government, parliament, and yet they're still doing stuff like the gun.
Yeah, that's that was the next part of it.
They're there for us, but they're not there at all.

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Literally not.
They have not been they have not had one day of parliament sitting since Trump has
been in office, little FYI, that's that's an important thing to note, too.
Unreal.
Well, do you want to know who some of our next guests are going to be?
Yes, please do, because I have no idea.
I've been texting with Kayla Pollock.

(01:13:50):
Oh, really? Oh, that's that's awesome.
Yeah.
So she ran into some difficulty, really bad difficulties due to a vaccine injury.
She is almost completely paralyzed and almost completely left behind by the
system, by the government that told her it was safe and effective by everybody.

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Like she's to the point where she I mean, not to the point.
She is in a situation where she can't dress herself.
She can't help herself if the fire alarm goes off in the middle of the night.
She's sleeping and she hasn't helped.
Yeah. So we're going to bring her on, talk about what she's going through,
maybe try and get people to help support her.
Is she part of the class action with Kerry Sakamoto?

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Do you know the vaccine?
I don't know.
She's in Ontario.
Oh, yes, that's right. She is.
So I don't think so.
I think she's got some other things.
And she's been she is officially recognized as vaccine injured by the federal
government, but I think that's kind of as far as it goes.
So we're going to get her on as soon as we can.

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I would like to do a show with Robbie Picard.
I've reached out to him.
He's with Oil and Gas World.
I really like some stuff that he was doing on Twitter,
basically being the salesperson to other countries for Alberta Energy.
Yes.
Kind of as if he was the representative.
And I thought that was really great.

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He's been an excellent advocate for Alberta.
So I like to have him on.
And there's a couple others that I'm working on, but I don't want to mention
it quite yet just in case it doesn't happen.
Okay, that's fair.
I know people have reached out to us and sent us emails.
I'm going to throw up an email.
If you do want to send us something.
Actually, you know what?
The easiest way is just go to the Chris and Carrie show.com.

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And otherwise, the email would either be
Chris Scott at the whistle stop truck stop dot CA or Carrie.
Actually, you know what?
Just send it to the Chris and Carrie show.
It's just easier.
Yeah, it's shorter.
Yeah, it's shorter.
I couldn't use whistle stop cafe at the time that I set up that domain because

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it was already used, and now we have it.
No, then you'd end up having it.
You could use a different dot extension.
So like Cayman, I think is dot KY.
Wow.
That's interesting.
That's a real slippery slope there.
So there's lots of domains that are like
t, you are dot KY, like kind of Turkey, or you can use your brain on that if you

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want to.
Dot.
You.
Anyways, yes.
So if you need to get a hold of us or want to get a hold of us, please, please do
that again. It's a little too late, but share this video if you can.
And yeah, I mean, it's great to converse with everybody.
I mean, we've been out at a few events this week.

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Chris and I were at the Injection of Truth on Monday, and then we followed up
with a really hilarious misinformation seminar.
We should actually do a carry.
Let's do we said we're going to on Thursday.
We never got around to it, but let's do a Chris and Carrie show where we're
listening to the audio from that and talking about it, because I had a lot of

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stuff I wanted to say. We said we have to do like Mystery Science
3000 Mystery Science Theater and have the little guys in the corner and then have
the big video and then we just kind of razz them all.
We should do it.
There's lots of videos out there that we could do that.
Would anybody like to see that if you do let us know?

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Because I think that that could be a whole sub
sub genre going forward.
Speaking of letting us know, if we don't get back to you right away,
please don't be offended. I still have a more than full time job
with the wassup Cafe. Carrie is like ridiculously lazy and sleeps till noon
every day and he only has like three hours.

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Every day only has like three hours of work.
And no, I'm just kidding.
Carrie also runs business and he's really, really busy all over the place doing
Carrie things, entertaining people and bringing a lot of joy from the look of your
videos. I like to be able to do that.
And even last night I was up in Lake Louise and I had a lot of people come up
at the very end saying that I was hosting Music Bingo and name that tune and just

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kind of the way that I do it.
And they were saying it was awesome and they really enjoyed it.
And they're looking forward to it.
It is. And so it is.
If any of you have an opportunity to join Carrie at any of his stuff, he does.
He does karaoke in Chastamere as well as in Airdrie.
And I have to leave in like eight minutes.
So I got to go join him.

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It is seriously a hell of a good time.
And I would go a lot more if I didn't have to get up so early the next day.
I'm going to see if I can drag Chris and Jess out on a Thursday down in Lake Louise.
I'll see if I can get a get a word drag.
Yeah.
So I did say drag you out there.
Oh, yeah.
That's what I say. Watch what I say.

(01:18:57):
Watch what I say.
OK, you do have to watch what you say.
There's a guy in Ontario just was sued for millions of dollars for
talking against some drag performers.
Well, and you have to watch what you're saying in the UK, too.
There's so much censorship going on.
I'm sorry. In jail.
We'll definitely.

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You know, we should have Jasper on sometime soon, too, to talk about what's going on over there.
Yes. He just presented some stuff to City Council in Amsterdam.
Yeah.
Pretty good stuff.
And coincidentally, I just texted him this morning and asked him if he wanted to
come to Canada to do some events with me.
So he said, yes, he does.
So he'll be I stopped to talk to him, but I imagine he'll be at one or more of our

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events that we do with the food bus.
I bought a bus, by the way. I tell you that.
I bought a bus.
Well, I knew you Jasper Jasper will be there.
Is it the same bus or a different bus?
Does it actually.
Oh, yeah, this thing's awesome. You're going to love it.
All right. Well, I got to come up there and fix your jukebox at some point anyway.
So maybe next week.
It's getting really dented because I keep hitting it with a hammer, like you said,

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and to get it working.
So the one side's like, I mean, you can see inside.
You don't have to open it to change the hard drive.
As you do the Fonzie thing to it now.
That's true. No.
And somebody took all the money out of the thing.
I don't know who did that.
OK, well, we'll figure it out together.
OK, all right.
With that, everybody, thank you so much
for watching and persevering with our whatever we do.

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And we will see you guys again very, very soon.
I'm not quite even sure what the schedule is going to be.
But hopefully in the next little bit anyways.
And that's hopefully soon.
And Carrie, have a great time karaoke.
And for those of you that are joining him, you will have a great time.
I don't even have to tell you to. It just happens naturally.
Awesome. OK. All right.
Night all.

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