Behind Formula Drift Road Atlanta - Taxi Garage | Circle of Drift #144 - The Circle of Drift

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When you have skills, you can doanything.
You're not set into a career, and that might be a societal
thing, is that oh, you need to start a career or be in a career
and do that. And you don't have to do that if
you have skills. Welcome back to the Circle of
the Drift podcast where we interview some of the most
interesting personalities withinthe industry.
My name is Dawson and today we are back at Formula Drift at
Rhode Atlanta for. Part 2 we got put on ESPN during

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COVID. They didn't have anything to
like they were remember they're crazy the rerun.
Well, they put our karting videos on there and we blew up
like the. The desire to compete against
other crazy Carters at a big level is there.
It's. Like SIM racing?
Exactly, we built 4 carts for him three years ago and they
still are in one piece. He's killed some motors, killed
some controllers, whatever like,but the chassis are still there.

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That's. Why?
He's like, I want new ones. And so much more to go over in
this episode. So make sure you look below the
video and you have smashed that subscribe button.
And without further ado, let's get into the episode.
I wanted this forever. I've been in the field with
whatever they throw at me. Brush it.
I'll pick myself up. Moving on a little better.
Hey, yeah, ain't no errors, baby.

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It's a new error. All right, well, we've got 1/2
or one third, one third of taxi garage, new face to the podcast
and everything. So how we doing this weekend?
So. To start the award, I am 1/3 of
Taxi Garage and we're happy to be here, you know, Rd.
Atlanta. Obviously the weather kind of
got a little spring Georgia type, you know?

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Just in time for Pro, of course.It's got to work that way.
Better pro than prospect just because the pro guys can handle
it better you know if you're looking at that aspect, the
downside is all the fans, you know come out for the pro guys
more so it's. When there's no smoke, it's hard
to to sit there and enjoy every bit of it, that's for sure.
So yeah, we're, we're, we're stoked to be here.

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You know, it was a very short offseason since we're from
Florida, we don't really have anoffseason.
Ryan, you know, my business partner is driving prospect this
year. So he was building a car from
January until basically two weeks ago and successfully made
it here. So we're here, didn't have the
result like everyone says when you don't win.

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But we got knocked out in seating.
So now we're hanging out and able to come and you know.
Talk. Yeah, yeah.
Was it what all happened to leadup to getting knocked out?
Was it just car troubles? Was it?
So as everyone maybe they don't know, but pro spec and Pro is a
different ball game of your seattime, your practice right?

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You're we got 8 laps before our seating bracket 8.
Right. That's incredible.
It's good and bad, you know, some guys got 3.
Oh, I know. So Ryan, you know, Ryan
basically built his whole car. You know, we're running the
business. He was able to, you know, focus

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mostly on the car. So that he built, he built a
really good car. And so that made our, you know,
job. So like this year I'm crewing
for him. I'm crew chief.
We got one other guy from down in South Florida that's also
helping and then Richie spottingin the media.
So it's still a small team. We're new.
We don't really know what we're doing.
We've been drifting a long time,but not at the pro level, you

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know, so we were fortunate the car was working.
So we were just trying to dial the car and get Ryan
comfortable. You know, he drove, rode Atlanta
12 years ago, so he at least hasbeen here, but that was a long
time ago. Absolutely.
Different, you know, and so he'sjust one trying to get his

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marks, 2 trying to figure out the car because it's new, and
then three, you're immediately thrown into battle.
And Ryan had it and I would agree he got he got lost in the
smoke at the last turn. It's purely just driver and it
happens. You know, you watch cars go into
the wall. There's been plenty of them this
weekend, dude, it's crazy. Brand new Corvette in the wall

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like, and it's the same thing. You get lost in the smoke.
And if you don't have that timing and that muscle memory,
which is built with seat time like that doesn't just come out
of nowhere. And the, you know, downside is
it, you know, Ryan's got one car.
It's brand new. Yep.
Losing that battle hurts, stings, but losing the car would

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hurt a whole lot more. I can definitely see.
And you were in Ebisu, right? Yeah.
OK. So how'd that go?
I'm itching to get the fuck out there, man.
It's a different world. Yeah.
In the most amazing way possible.
I also I would give up five drift events in the states for
one Matsuri hands down. Now my my whole time there was

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like picture perfect, like very fortunately picture perfect.
Like I, you know, there would bea few things I changed like I
immediately flew in and. You made me so jealous right
now. So like, and then the drifting
world's really tight. So I fortunately just new people
that new people, right. So like I started planning the

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trip, me and my girlfriend went.So it was probably one of the
best things I've done for my relationship.
We've been together 10 years andshe's been there and is my rock
for sure. You know, and we got so busy
with taxi garage and programs and drifting and not wanting to
let off the throttle that vacations are hard to do,

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especially A2 week vacation. Yeah, owning a business in a two
week vacation with no work like hardly.
Well, I assume you did some likehere and there, but.
But the guys, so I finally have a really solid team.
It's small, but we got killers on the team and like, you know,
all three of us are equally invested in the company.
So it's equal, right? Everyone's killing themselves to

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make something happen. So like I was fortunate enough
to be able to do it right, made it happen.
It really was just like, OK, I have to.
So that was good because four months basically my girlfriend
is so excited that she don't know do it herself, right?
She's planning all these things.We've got an owl cafe to go to,
a dog cafe to go to the food, like Google, like, you know,

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she's Jamaican. So then we had to go to the
Jamaican. Like there's a subculture in
Japan of Jamaicans. So we went to like this Jamaican
cafe that the man speaks patois but also is Japanese.
Oh my gosh. So we're having Curry chicken
and, you know, you know, rice and peas.
But in Japan like. That's so awful.

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Like odd to even think about I Iwould have never guessed the
Jamaican culture. Yeah, they have a lot of
subcultures, all of them, right?You know, like there's like
obviously the Bozuku style stuffthey've got.
Well, yeah, that's true, yeah. Like there's so many of these
different like sub, there's a low rider scene.
So I'm walking, I'm walking in Osaka down the street and then

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now there's 4 low riders that are like Cali spec thirteens,
Dayton's ones, hydroed up, dragging the rear bumper down
the street like you felt like you were in LA.
Why does that stuff just get missed in the scene down there?
I don't know dude. I I.
Don't know anything about that stuff but it looks cool.
It's super cool. If someone hasn't gone to Japan

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like myself, what would you suggest the places go to?
Other than the obvious Ebisu, where should someone go?
Well. So I was very fortunate in just
connecting with people through social media and I got these
like very special experiences that give me goosebumps every
time I think about them. Even though it's only two weeks
ago. Like it's still living in that
moment. But Daikoku 100%.

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But you need to somehow find someone to go with it makes
their. Because it's like locked down
and stuff now, isn't it? It wasn't bad.
I went on a Sunday morning and Iwent on a Monday night which was
raining. It was like this and they were
still cars. Oh.
So that's a really good experience.
Obviously Shibuya Crossing. I ended up seeing a Veilside FD

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RX7, like the fastest Furious one.
I'm standing there and it drivesin front of me.
It's just a movie scene. You're like it.
Was like, so that one's cool like it.
It's definitely got the hype. You know, Osaka's really cool.
It's far, but you really just walk around and there's so much

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stuff. I saw a three O 8 Ferrari
driving down the street. I saw an A wide body R34 driving
down the street and I just kind of went around and like, Daikoku
is absolutely, you know, mandatory.
Over stimulating at that point. If you can get out to the
Aqualand parking deck, so it's in the middle of the Bay.

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So they go there if Daikoku is either shut down or raining.
So when it was raining, we went to Daikoku first.
We're like, all right, let's check it out.
And I went in a wide body S15 and a couple R30 fours that
these are guys were U.S. military guys.
So that was linked from Amber deGeorgie there in South Florida

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as well. She hit, well, actually she
linked me up with the first trip.
So two people linked me up actually.
So it was two different separateoccasions.
So the first one we went to Daikoku in a Hakasuka Millennium
Jade GTR, like a 71. Just three of them.

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Oh God, so. She linked me up with this guy.
He came to the States and drifted and she like housed him.
And then she's like, Oh my God, you need to hit him up.
So he's an older Japanese man, speaks very little English,
Super nice. But that's the one thing that I
took away from there, just to not get too far into it.
Like they're so welcoming peoplemake time for you.
I I get these tangents because there's so much stuff that

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happened. Oh yeah, I'm sure.
It's like going to is a culture shock essentially.
So come back and you're just dumbfounded by everything.
Which I that yeah, it was anyways.
I was in awe the whole time. I was in bliss.
Yeah. And like, it's 20 years plus of
planning or not planning, but dreaming of going.
Sure, you're in the same spot. Like you haven't gone yet.

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So you dream like this stuff. A lot of this is based off of
Japanese culture and we love it.And drifting obviously came from
there. So you watch all this stuff and
like when you get to go there and you're like, I can't believe
I'm here. And like I fortunately got to
experience these things of like you dream about.
Does it even feel real while you're there?
No, like it's got to feel just like a fever dream completely.

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It did and like, yeah, so now we're driving in and we're like
I'm in the car driving into Daikoku.
You see the sign that you alwayssee in the videos like Daikoku
PA and you're pulling in and it was a beautiful sunny day.
So Sundays are classic cars. So now it wasn't the traditional
what you see put some like if you're into cars, It was
amazing. It was like a cars and coffee.

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But now there's a Cosworth, you know, Focus like Rs thing.
There's GT2000. There was one of the Bozuku vans
with like the big wings and the splitter.

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There was that Camino. There was a bunch of Ferraris, a
bunch of Lambos, a 355 that was wide body with like these
hideous green lift wheels, like super like.
Ignorant. Yeah, like over the top.
Of course, you know, there's always got to be those guys in
every culture. No, it was just, it was sick.

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So then we ended up he's like, he translates, he's like, do you
want to go to my friend's shop? And I'd like, I'd love to.
So we get in the car and now he's with his friend with a
Cosworth wide body 190 E on air like silk.
Dude, I walked, that was one of my favorite cars when I walked
through the car park, right? I'm like, this thing's sick.

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And and so we get we're start following him now.
We're driving. We're driving, we're driving
now. We drive so far now at another
car park that's 40 minutes Southof Tokyo.
And we're like, they're like, oh, we've been driving.
We need to take a stop. Like we need to go to the
bathroom. Yeah.
And the Japanese car parks are well planned and like, it's like

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a 40 minute drive. And there's another one that's
really nice. So then now we drive another 30
minutes South. So now we're an hour and 20
minutes outside of Tokyo. But it was worth it because we
get to this guy's shop and it's called Owl Works.
And Owl Works because he owns anowl, like as a pet.
So it's in his house. It follows him around.
That is so cool. I want to dude.

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I would love to have an owl. I have an owl tattoo on my arm.
All right, I think they're cool as fuck.
So cool. Yeah, owls are really sick.
That's mandatory. So I gave up the Owl Cafe to go
do this. So my girl went to the Owl Cafe.
11 regret I have. I didn't go to the Owl Cafe.
Yeah. So we got there and now he's got
a whole collection of cars, T70 twos that are wide body, A Wide

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body MK3 Supra wide body R34 Sedan, A 70 model 4 door GTRI.
Don't know exactly the year, maybe 7172.
They only made those a couple years, but it's got that twin
Cam 2 liter like super famous motor and everyone's got IT BS.
And it had like equal length headers.

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Beautiful car. So, yeah, just the car scene
now, like that's something that I, I, I hope to try to just, I
don't know, bring back from going.
Replicate here, yeah. Be more open to whoever and at
least give it a chance. Like, you know, you get in the
grind or you just get a bad taste in your mouth from

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someone. And like that was my goal this
year is to to try to just be more positive.
And I maybe it's I'm not, I don't feel like I'm pessimistic,
but I feel like I'm very real, Like the chance of that
happening is not very good, right?
Like just looking at it in a real way, like, you know,

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whatever, like the chances of you being, you know, I don't
know, whatever. I'm just.
I'm not even. Going to get any?
No, I hear you. Get it right.
Yeah. And so like, just trying to be
like, all right, that could happen.
Absolutely. Because like when I got to Juan,
all these things happened and just like, open your eyes of
like the magic. Well, you seem to have already

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kind of adopted that a little bit within the business.
I mean, you guys have been pretty like a humble business
almost and you guys yourself arevery humble.
So how is how is the business side of things incorporated all
of that? How have you guys grown so
rapidly and what do you think because all of that stuff that

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you're bringing back from Japan,it seems like you've already
kind of done, you're already in that crowd or in that type of
people. True.
I think maybe I just want to, I want to put more emphasis on it.
Maybe it's already happening andyou're right because like our
business is very fun. From an outsider perspective, I
see. It and I appreciate that like
maybe it's, you know, everyone you're you're your own worst

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critic and and all of us are that way and we're striving for
perfection and that's going to be one of the reasons we have
expanded as fast as we have the one.
You know, I think the one major thing is that we all have
passion and passion is driving us to do better always.
And so we started Taxi Garage because we were a group of

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friends. And you know, Ryan is a metal
manufacturer and an engineer. You know, I was working in race
cars and I've always been into cars and I'm self-taught.
So I, you know, I even had a question yesterday that kid
walked out, but it was me and Odie talking, Odie and I and,
and he's like, you know, I'm in tech school.

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How do I get into this? And the first thing I did when I
got into it was I forced myself into a machine shop.
Actually here in Cumming, GA I'mfrom Cumming this.
Is how I was sick OK? So I like walked into this shop
of a machine shop and I just like, yo, like I'm interested in
this. I want to do this.
How can I learn? Right?

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And that was 2005. And he's like, come sweep the
shop. It's the standard answer that no
one these days really wants to do.
But that's the only way you're going to do it.
Everybody's too lazy nowadays. Well, I guess lazy is not the
word, but you know what I mean. People don't have the same
attention span to even. That's it.

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Do monotonous work like that? Or they just don't understand
that it will build. Correct.
Instant gratification now has nobuilding blocks.
That correlation isn't there. So like you've built up even
your podcast, this didn't happenovernight.
I've been doing this for years now, yeah.

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I saw the first one, you know what I mean?
It's drip. It's it's niche, right?
But like, oh, that's cool, you know, Appreciate that, you know?
Yeah. And you had a homie.
I don't even know what happened with that, but you had two guys,
right? And like, it just, it gets
better or whatever. And and now you know you've
built something that's fortified.
Well, you seem I, I appreciate that a lot, but on your side of

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things, it's carts like it that is extremely niche, so.
That's why. It's OK.
So that's my next. That's my next question is how
has it expanded so rapidly and what are the effects that you
think are, you know, probable tothat?
Yeah, so sorry. I get, I get.
I like to talk. They call it burning.
Cookies or this is Ford. So, so why we've expanded so far

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is obviously the passion. Then it goes to we are in a
niche business. Even my mentor that taught me a
bunch of stuff told me, Are you sure you want to do this?
When we started the company, I was about to quit my job.
I was working at Ferrari sellingcars, right?
Oh. Shit, I didn't know that.
Yeah, like I worked on cars, built a bunch of cars.
I was doing Corvettes. Made it all the way to Ferrari.

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I made it all the way I worked, went to a Ferrari race team
because I was like building cars, killing myself.
I'm not making a lot of money and I want to drift and I don't
have time to do that because I'mat the racetrack working on
other people's cars, which you learn a bunch and it's amazing.
And it turned into like a career.
And it could have been a career.It could still be a career when
I go back. Because that's one thing I also
realized is that when you have skills, you can do anything.

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Like it's not you're not set into a career.
And that might be a societal thing, is that, oh, you need to
start a career or be in a careerand do that.
And you don't have to do that ifyou have skills like I was.
I started to get good at workingon cars.
I started to get good at settingup cars.
I'm good at driving cars somewhat, you know, and then I

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can talk to people. So now if you know about them,
it was an easy transition to runa shop and sell stuff and be
like, OK, dude, like you've got a 458, let's put headers on it,
let's tune it, let's lower it. And these wheels, it's going to
look sick. It's going to drive good.
And then like they have trust inyou and my rapport is
immediately built because I do it.

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I know it. I'm not someone that I just
doesn't know, you know what I mean?
A lot of sales guys sell on sales taxes, not on knowledge.
That is so true. So that's another thing that's
helped us in taxi garage, right?Even with Charlie, the third
partner, right? He sold high end wheels and
that's How I Met him. He worked and they built

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titanium lug bolts, right? And they were like custom niche.
That's cool. He helped his friend build the
company. And so they're like you can do
custom lengths. And it was really popular in the
ATV1 HRE world where you would put like a wheel spacer.
So you have, you need a wheel spacer or you want to just have
unsprung weight, which obviouslyyou're at the lug nut world,

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it's not that much, but it's still unsprung weight.
And like these titanium bolts weighed like 1/4 of what?
A normal lug nut would weigh a lug bolt.
Really on those Ferraris, they're like, they're kind of
heavy. Yeah.
And so like all of us were doingthese different things.
So Fast forward back to people asking me like, Are you sure you

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want to do this? Like I'm at the point of
quitting a job that I was first year in.
I was making like 130,000 I wentfrom.
Fairly comfortable, especially at that time in the, you know,
COVID year, yeah. That was crazy because COVID
happened and I was selling cars and people are freaking out.
But then the next. I wasn't literally the same
deal. They set that on Nissan.
Yeah. No, no Ferrari for me, yeah.

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So I worked in the pre owned exotics.
So I mostly Ferrari is very castsystem in a sense.
Like you don't just really walk in there.
Like I could walk in there and Ihad clients from the Ferrari
race team, but then I couldn't take them because they were
clients of someone else or I wasn't in line of getting that
sale right. You have to establish yourself

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and then the dealership needs tomake sure that they know that
100% you're going to take care of that person or do whatever
you need to do, right. So it was a little bit of an eye
opening when I walked in there because I thought I had clients
and then I didn't, you know? So you have to build them.
Womp womp. And so, you know, I I went in
there and selling cars, right. So then it was like taxi garage

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had blown up. So kind of back a little bit
before that happened, right? We started in garages in Ryan's
shop. Ryan had the metal manufacturing
could make all the stuff. He designed the parts.
Where did the idea of it even come from by the way?
Because like obviously the crazycarts came out and you're taxi
garages like wait, say again. Crazy carts have been out for a
long time, 2013. Damn, it's been that long.

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But they they like peaked and then they fell off pretty hard.
And so Ryan had had made one forhis son and him and they were
riding around and they ride in the shop.
He had another buddy named Jose that like worked in the shop
with him and they would ride around.
And then I met Ryan through drifting.

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So I moved to Florida in 2013 from here from Atlanta.
I'd already been drifting for since 2006.
Seven. I've been driving forever.
I'm old now. It dates me.
I'm 35. So it's like I've been drifting
since I was 15. It's 20 years.
Now, old man, Yeah. It's crazy.
I was at the first Formula D in 2004.

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That's wild to say that of anything dates you.
Dates me, dates me. Aw, so he builds the carts.
He's like, yo, dude, you need toget a cart with me.
So you can find him on Marketplace at that point for
$5000 free all the time, right? Because it was something that
was there, but there was nothingto fix them.

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And Razor did a really great jobwith the cart to an extent.
Their market and their plan is buy it, break it by another like
a Razor scooter. Like you might put wheels on it,
but if you break it, you just goget another one.
And the crazy cart doesn't really fall into that, I guess

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business model. It's got too many moving parts.
It's expensive in a sense, you know, And when something breaks,
you're like, I'm not going to throw it away.
Let me just fix it. And they didn't have all that
set up. So that was one of our upcomings
is that we were able to provide a solution.
To the problem. To the problem so we started
riding right and it was like allall of our group of friends so

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it was like 3 of us then it was five of us then now we're riding
out in downtown Fort Lauderdale and people are like what is that
how can I get it where do I buy it just every question you.
Can I need to know? I need that.
I want that. Give me that one right there.
And we're like, no, dude, you can't.
It's ours. We made it.
Not even thinking about it, right?
Not even thinking about it as a business, we did it for fun.

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And the main thing that people don't understand is how much it
correlates to drifting. So Ryan and I, we drive the
carts a lot together now, not somuch because we've gotten really
busy, but we still, we're comingback to it because we need, we
need to do it. I can't drive a SIM.
I know how much people preach a SIM.
OK, so that's, that's kind of where I was going to head after
you said that because you said it relates Personally, I suck at

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driving those fucking things. I'm sorry I'm I'm so bad at it.
I guess it's probably the same thing for me ever SIM once I got
past those things that you need to get like used to right?
I can't I can't understand motion in a SIM, even VR.
I get carsick in VR like. I refuse.
VR and then the big screens I still, despite me even knowing I

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shouldn't be in that gear, I'm now in 5th gear entering into a
25 mile an hour turn and I crashlike I just shift shift shift
like 'cause it's a video game and then I.
It'll take it. Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.
You know, and so like, obviouslythat's my fault, but the karts,
we, we ride a lot and it, it, I can 100% attribute my tandem

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chase timing, positioning and line 2 crazy cards 'cause
there's the next thing is that you do have a level of fear
'cause you can crash, but it's not as bad as a car.
It's either your body instead ofyour car.
So financially it could be better or worse.

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It's still a three wheel, so like you get that three wheel
tip over actually all the time. Weight transfer, yeah right.
But the timing you know where you need to be like my you know
your your transition before the the lead driver.
Like I always had a problem withthat in a car because I didn't
want to total my car or total someone else.

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So really getting that, like that's kind of where that
missile car thing comes in because you can learn that
without worrying. About that, that like kind of
dive in. Dive in the dive in like through
the smoke or dive in trying to anticipate that driver and and
like last night what happened? They got hooked and both in the
wall. Like you fear that that's a
terrible thing. Glad you guys are OK, by the

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way. Yeah, that was.
Seriously, that was gnarly. There's a lot of crazy wrecks.
There's gnarly and you know, so the carts like you have more
room for air. It's fun.
You can get a bunch of people together at one time.
Like we had a meet with 55 cartsshow up like last year.
Like that would get better when we impressive.

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Yeah. So we did it in Hollywood, FL at
a park, right. So that's what we do.
Is it it's a little Gray area, but we ride on sidewalk.
So we do it in a respectful way at a non peak time.
So and the card is so small thatpeople smile and wave because
it's cute looking. It's kawaii, you know, It's even

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Japanese. Like, oh, look at the little
guy, right? And so, you know, because we
have two sides, the XL and the standard card and standard card
we prefer because it's more nimble, uses less wear items,
feels more direct because you'repulling up on the bar, which is
you're pulling your weight. And it has like a direct thing
of like when you lower the bar and you're sideways, it like
scrubs speed and it'll actually allow you to like suck in or

(27:29):
dive in. Oh, OK.
So you have all of the aspects of like drifting, but they're
just different. And like since it's front wheel
drive, when you let off the throttle in your sideways, it
rotates more. When you give more throttle, it
takes angle out and that's why Drifters have a problem with it.
But the minute you understand that, it makes all the sense.
It's like a light switch for people.

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That on top of learning to not let go of the wheel was my
thing. I keep wanting to sling the
wheel and it's it's not that. It's literally just a like
quarter turn. You're doing not much at all
dude. Yes.
So when we do all the rental, you know, we've had now
thousands and thousands of people riding the rental carts
at all these different events. Like when I was in Japan, the

(28:11):
boys were in Saudi Arabia for Formula One and rent doing
rentals. We won best activation of the
year at the Formula One race last year.
They brought us back and made itbigger so you can have all these
different age groups, all these different cultural people riding
the carts, which is a one reallycool thing.
It's also has made it successful.
Going back to the initial question is that like everyone

(28:34):
can do it and everyone loves it.It's a feeling that you can't
replicate in almost anything. And and then the next thing that
really started to to thrive was like the families that buy them.
So the mother, the father, the kids, and today's day and age,
there's not many things that youcan do.

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And I'm not a father, but you know, Ryan's a father, right?
And Ryan's son comes and rips with us and like is nasty, like
he doesn't weigh anything. So we throw it into a turn
backwards. You know, we do the back, He's
into the turns and he has no inertia, you know, because he
has no weight. And we're barreling at the same
speed as him. And then he makes it and we

(29:17):
just. We're done fumbling down the
hill, yeah. Yeah, we're into the Bush, you
know, but like the families thatride.
So like, that's been a really cool thing.
And like, yeah, like if you're adad and you have a kid and
you're not into video games, like, and even sports, like,
yeah, you can practice with yourkid, but you're not playing a
baseball game with your kid. You're there to support and your

(29:39):
watch and you're being a great dad, but you're not also equally
enjoying it in a sense, right? Maybe you are.
It's a different category of equally enjoying, but like that
one, it's the same, you know? Sorry.
So, so yeah, just back when COVID happened, I quit my job.

(30:01):
It was we're all in, right? There's the orders were banging.
I'm at, I'm at work. I'm seeing all the stuff.
We're building the stuff in the garage until three O clock in
the morning, going back to work.So I'm working 12 hours at the
car dealership. Charlie's working at the wheel
stuff, a full time job. He's hour driving there for

(30:21):
work, hour back. And then we're building carts.
Ryan's building the parts in hisshop.
And it was just like this, like we're all just killing
ourselves. It's going to work.
Jesus, man. That's back to the mentor.
Is it actually a decommissioned crazy cart that you're just
modifying and reselling? Is that how it works or are you

(30:42):
getting the cart yourself? We work alongside Razor.
Razor endorses us. Oh no shit.
We've won two awards from Razor that I don't even know if they
existed, but they made it because of what we've created in
the market. It was that's got to feel good.
Innovator of the year and best third party retailer that we

(31:03):
should run this year. That's cool, man.
So it's cool that they they support us, they endorse us.
We're doing something that they really can't do.
They can do it. They don't want to do it.
We're in a different market. We make it look cool because
it's cool. Yeah, theirs is their markets.
Kid toys. Y'all are the rights.
We're like people for that styleof it.
We're like Lingonfelter for a Corvette.

(31:26):
Yeah, you know. Totally agree with that.
You know, a Roush for a Mustang like Roush or RTR, the newest,
the newest version of that RTR for Ford.
They're not the same company. They work alongside, they work
well together, they work, you know, everyone is happy with
what's happening. And so we have brand new crazy

(31:48):
carts. We then put all of our parts on
them. OK, So what?
What parts are you putting on itthat wouldn't normally go on
just your regular crazy car? What all is the difference?
So you upgrade the front fork. So that's made by Ryan and and
Reed in the shop. So that's CNC plasma.
It's got Dom, you know, steeringtube because they they break

(32:10):
because they're made for young kids, right?
And then we abuse them so that the fork is a thing.
Bigger motor sprocket controller.
We're going from the the originally 24 Volt, we go to 48
Volt. We have some that are 36 Volt.
So the motor packages, you know,you have your levels stage one
through 5, a lot like building acar.

(32:31):
And then and then the rear casters are a huge thing.
So they come with like little skinny wheels that work fine,
but they don't have a lot of control.
They also blow out quickly. So we have a longboard wheel.
So we use orangutans. Just like, you know,
longboarding. So Orangutan works with us for
that and and we build a wide caster that goes on the back of
the cart that gives you more control but gives you longevity.

(32:53):
We have a brake kit for them because they don't standardly
come with brakes. I'm sure the one you wrote had
no brakes. So you're now you're trying to
figure out there's nothing to slow down.
Doesn't the brake kind of like make it a little more sketchy?
Well, you're on the front brake,yes.
That would scare the life out ofme, dude.
It's it's a level of of finesse you just don't want to grab on

(33:15):
your sideways. That's fair.
You can and immodulate and good,but you can also fail.
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, so I know this story's
been so scattered because so much stuff's happened, but we
got put on ESPN during COVID. They ran out of sports.

(33:36):
They didn't have anything to like.
They were. Remember their the reruns.
Yeah. Well, they put our karting
videos on there and we blew up and that was like an overnight.
And we're like, how? Many orders.
Did you get off of that that night?
Well, roughly, you ain't got all.
This we were doing all this, we still, we throttled ourselves.

(33:59):
We didn't want, we couldn't produce it.
Oh yeah, you're just shot in thefoot at that point.
That's always been a battle and and scaling anything, it's a
battle of having having inventory and having cash flow
and just running a business in general, right.
And we all learned running a business for someone else.
So it's been really helped us running our own business within

(34:21):
reason. You're always learning.
If you're not learning, then you're failing and actually
failing, not failing. Right.
And and so, you know, we throttled ourselves.
So we sold that. We sold out, but it wasn't a
lot. But it was like that really,
that light switch like this. Is understood.

(34:45):
This is 100% going to work. We were telling ourselves it's
going to work. It finally validated this is
working. And so it's like, OK, more.
Let's fucking eat now. And you know, at this point
still, we weren't driving a lot and we'd use the crazy cards
because we weren't drifting likepeople use.
SIM, That was your SIM, yeah. That was our SIM.

(35:06):
We would go out, it was weekly nights and and like it just
snowballed. And fortunately, you know, we
were able to build a business that allows us to do our passion
and our passion is our business.And it's like living the dream,
the only way to put it. Well, after that, that big blow
up, what were some of the major,I guess not major, but what were

(35:29):
some of the complaints you were getting since you were so small
and wasn't able to, you know, expand as much?
Was it just inventory lead times?
Lead times? Lead times, you know, our
quality has always been a #1 like focus between Ryan and
myself, you know, we call it theR&N, Ryan and Nick, it's like

(35:50):
R&D, you know, Ryan will design it.
I'm not a like a studied engineer, but I worked on so
many cars and so many things andinstalled so many like prototype
turbo kits on Corvettes and, andall these things that like we
look at things a little differently and come to a, you
know, a perfect point of like, OK, like I love 96% of that Ryan

(36:15):
like, but I've already broke it and I'm good at breaking things.
Right. Like that's my job here.
I'm good at breaking things. I'm good at crashing things.
You, you saw the drift Appalachia.
I could, you know, I pop shove it in my car in the mountain.
I'm always on the edge of tryingto find that a little bit more.
Someone's got to do it, man. Why not be the test them?

(36:37):
You get paid more for that, right?
No, no. Sorry.
That was stupid. So yeah, we're negative paid for
that one. And so, yeah, so like just
trying to keep up. So like inventory was the
biggest hurdle because at that point too, Razor didn't know who

(36:59):
we like. They knew who we were, but they
didn't acknowledge who we were. We're not Walmart.
We're not Amazon, so I'm not buying three containers of carts
at one time. And they, they're super vocal
about it and straightforward. I love that because it's like,
OK, that's where we need to be. That's what we need to do, you
know, so we were, you know, you're, you're struggling to get

(37:22):
enough carts to build them because you're not going to use
used ones. And we're not going to just sell
parts. We need to have a completed
cart, you know, and so like the lead times were a big, there was
a struggle and then not being full time on it.
So you're like you're so small that people understand.

(37:43):
They know it's so niche that like, all right, they're small
business. They have another job.
I get it. You know, when you start to
look, you know, and we still look bigger than we are.
There's. I would say.
You know, I have two guys in theshop right now that are killers,
like so good. They're they're back right now.
Like we can bring them when we can, but they crush it in the
shop and then it's the three owners, KCR full time media and

(38:05):
then read welding parts. That's our whole team and.
I remember you posted a you guysposted a video of doing a
drawing for one of the giveawaysthat you do.
By the way, if you have if you don't know that they do
giveaways on the cards as well, so you can always check those
out, but we. Have a new one coming up next
month. Next month it'll be a no
purchase necessary. Just sign up.

(38:27):
So we worked with one of our sponsors and we built a cart.
So strap, you know, they make these adjustable ratchet or
retractable ratchet straps so they help they sponsored a cart
which will go live in June and it's just that would be cool.
No purchase necessary. You sign up, give your
information, follow their socialmedia and ours, and you went.

(38:47):
Free entry is always nice, that's for sure.
Hell yeah. And so, yeah, the video.
What happened in the video? Just the giveaway.
Oh yeah. Sorry, that was the whole point
of that. No, you said we have all the
guys here and then I look in thevideo and it's like 6 dudes
standing in a circle. I was like wow, I did not
realize how I I figured it was at least like a a fairly decent

(39:07):
warehouse, maybe 20-30 guys, youknow, building carts non-stop.
Da da, da da that's. What it should be So we I need
resumes. If you guys can work hard and
and have dependability and driveand passion, send me a resume.
What would be some of the requirements they have to do
during? The day we're looking for two

(39:27):
positions right now. So there would be the position
of working in the shop. So previously we'd had like
everyone had their own station. We've now kind of changed it to
everyone can do everything. So it becomes more of a team
effort and it becomes you understand why something is that
way. Because now when you get to that
point of the process, you understand that, Oh, that would
have sucked if it was the other way, right?

(39:50):
Like, you know, so now the guys in the shop can do almost
everything and that's convenient.
So it would be someone they don't immediately have to have
that skill, but they need to have that willingness to learn.
So that would be the one thing is hands on and mechanical, you
know, understanding would be 1. You know, you can put the motors
on the forks, put the casters together, build a cart, pack a

(40:12):
cart, pack the orders with care.We we care, right.
So like you're not going to justlike.
That's a heavy package. That's a heavy package to have
bubble wrapped and shit like that.
And then the next position is the front end guy.
So Charlie deals with all of. Fuck yeah, that's ski trucks.

(40:35):
So Charlie deals with all of thethe front end like sales, that's
who you're talking to on the phone, but it limits him from
doing other things that he's really good at.
So that's the next position thatwe need.
We need someone that can answer the phone, talk the talk with
passion. And still know the product.
Know the product, you know, but it's very much like a a car, but

(40:57):
you know, it's a cart and then it obviously correlates to all
the car stuff. So, so those are two positions
that we're looking for right nowand very open to to help, you
know, so that's that's what makes it is it's a team right
now. We're really good at it, but
I've also been particular. I'm not just going to hire

(41:17):
anyone. It's hard to find quality which.
If you found the right person but they were across the
country, would you pay cost to move them out?
If they were the right person, absolutely.
Cool, I just wanted to clarify that for anyone that does want
to reach out. Like do it.
I did that. I moved from Georgia to Florida

(41:37):
to work at a race shop. Right.
I worked at a shop here. It ended up getting shut down
some crazy. Damn it was rated.
It was rated. The guy was selling drugs.
That makes sense. And so then I was kind of was
like, OK, shops closed. Now what?

(41:59):
So I I got I got imported into Florida and it's probably one of
the best things I ever did because now it's just built from
there. But but yeah, so we're hiring
drop us a line, send us a resume, actual resume.
Maybe it yes, maybe a sponsor medeck but hire me.
Introduction video something unique stand out a little bit.

(42:21):
Down for it, you know, and then obviously we've got the race
team, so when that starts to fitin, people kind of can do a dual
sided thing, you know, but the shop is #1.
You know it's. Like when people get hired at
the shop, they work at the shop.That's awesome.
Well, hopefully we can help withthat.
Yeah, hopefully. But on the race side of things,
at least for you, before we break this off, how is your your

(42:42):
car going, your season going as far as driving everything else
like that? Yeah.
So so the Gray S14 I've had thatsince 2010 it's the same motor,
same transmission in the car since then it's dry sum LS2 on
E85. I, I refreshed it in 2013, but
it's been the same thing since then right?
So I drove clutch kickers in it drift Appalachia.

(43:05):
Obviously I I crashed and drift Appalachia we fixed it.
That was rough. Queue the queue the clip.
And I actually heard you talk about it on one of the other
ones. I was like, I was actually, I
was listening to some of the podcasts on the way to Japan and
I heard you like, oh, like, oh, yeah, Nick.
Yeah. It got way deep.
Never lifted. Yeah, you didn't, dude.

(43:26):
Who stayed pinned? Yeah, when in doubt, throttle
out. That's that's right.
And so with that car I was, I was planning on building a more
pro level car because that car has been the same power level
forever because it's been reliable.
It makes 475 at the tire. It's ALS 2243 heads.
We decked them 70 thousandths just enough where the valve

(43:49):
doesn't hit the piston. I think this fly cut a little
bit, you know, dry sump has beenhuge because it's kept it alive
and I don't turn the hell out ofit, you know, So I turned it to
like 6700. Oh, that's very conservative,
yeah. And so with that car, I've been

(44:09):
in this competition setting, youknow, of Pro AM, I'm in the top
two seasons ago I finished fifth.
Last season I think I finished 7th.
I was in the running, you know, and obviously Ryan knocked me
out, which is fine. At least he won and is here.
And so like, I need more power. My car is now my limiting

(44:30):
factor. So I've done it opposite of
most, halfway due to budget but halfway of just keeping my car
reliable like I could put nitrogen.
Plan to upgrade that aspect of it new like you said.
Are you probably venturing to a new car?
I have a new. Car.
I haven't even announced it. I haven't posted anything about
it. I haven't done anything.
So this is actually the first. Time I'm talk.
First time I'm talking about it,I bought a S14 shell that was

(44:54):
built by Justin Chestnut at after hours performance.
The guy the name of it. So it's a guy that wanted to
build a pro car and I I guess henever had a pro car but started
building the car and obviously it's a lot and it takes time.
So I end up buying a chassis that's cage kits, some Alaria

(45:16):
stuff. So it's got the cat hump deleted
already done. The whole chassis was
sandblasted and then stitch welded and then steel it in.
So like cage kits front end, it came with a 2F back end.
But once I'd crashed the Gray car, I'd still already started
to accumulate parts to make it better.
But once I crashed it, we fixed it and I'm looking at all these

(45:38):
parts. I'm like, if I take all these
new parts and put it in this carthat's kind of already
compromised, what do I do with all these other parts?
And this car like has seen a lot.
It's not really a good starting point.
All right, build a new car. So this one's now probably most
of this season will be like, it'll still be the car 'cause

(46:01):
this car is being built. But the new car is LSA, probably
a Magnuson 2650 or a hair up, not sure.
It's got a dog bark. I got AGSR for it.
I've got a quick change for it. Wise fab V3 with the new BMW
rack. So I'm V2 wise fab on my car

(46:21):
currently and then wise fab rear.
It's got all of the bits of a prospect car without me really
focusing on prospect, so like. Just future proof.
I want it well, I want it to be like when I drive when I drive,
I want to be on kill all the time.

(46:42):
Good. So it should be even in a
practice event. I'm, I'm driving as hard as I
can and that's. Probably.
I mean you overbuild the car to run it lower and it's less
likely you have anything go wrong.
Well, not anything, but you knowwhat I mean.
And then yeah, fuel lab, you know, fuel system, it's got a
link in it. ECU masters, PDM, the PDM, you

(47:05):
know, it's pretty sick. I've never had APDM, so I'm
excited about that. My car is still not stand alone.
It's a factory LS computer with a tune.
What? Yeah, so.
Dude what? No.
Yeah, that's. Crazy.
So it's a OEM harness that we slimmed out and it it runs AE40
computer, which is ALS 2 computer, which are not the

(47:27):
greatest, but not the worst, right?
It's reliable, simple, and that's what made that car last
so long. But just trying to make the new
car competitive and a lot of thesame parts as Ryan's car.
Ryan's car has got a link. It's got AEC masters PDM, it's
got AGSR, it's got a dog box. Obviously being RX7 it's a
little different but like a lot of the parts to try to make it

(47:51):
where if one of us has a problem.
It's all interchangeable. Yeah, it's always smart to do.
You just brought that up. Whistling diesel.
I already forgot about that. I'm so sorry, but we've got to
talk about that. You drove his fucking driveway.
Yeah, it's brand new you. Didn't even realize dudes like
15 minutes from my house. He could have done a whole
podcast by the way while he was down there but how the fuck was

(48:13):
that? How did that even happen?
Carts. He just wanted carts and he's
like, let's do, let's do something.
The intro is carts right? So like we did, we built 4 carts
for him three years ago, right? And they still are in one piece
now. He's killed some motors, killed
some controllers, whatever like,but the chassis are still there.

(48:36):
That's why. He's like, I want new ones.
We're like, OK. And the idea was when he got the
carts the first time is he wanted to ride him up and down
his driveway, but he hadn't paved it yet.
So he like, you know, had the carts, never paved the driveway,
whatever. Finally he's like driveways
paved. I need more carts, right?

(48:59):
And we're like, OK, you know. And so he's he's pretty easy to
work with. So we worked out a deal with
him. And then I'm like, dude, we're
bringing the drift cars and like, I don't even think they
understood that who we were as drivers, right?
And that we have pro level ish cars, right?

(49:21):
Like my car's not a pro level, but it's, it gets down, you
know? And so like, I was like, yo,
we're bringing the carts, we're coming up.
We're setting a date. They're like, OK.
And he's like, and then like literally, you know, Brady, the
guy that works with him is like his main guy was like, hey, can
you send me photos of the cars aday before we leave?

(49:43):
Like, like, I don't think he really understood.
Like he's like, he's like, you're still bringing these,
right? I'm like, yeah.
Oh no. And he's like, oh, he's like,
these are sick. Like he now is excited about it.
Like I, you know, obviously they're doing so much.
They're so busy that I understand like.
Yeah, probably just thinks there's a couple of E30 sixes

(50:04):
that are fucking beat the shit. And, and Cody had never been
around a drift car. None of them really have.
Yeah, I kind of in my head was like, I'm going to let him drive
my car and people are like. Bold are you?
Stupid. Who?
What made that click? Yeah, well I'd watch a bunch of
his videos and I'm like, homie can drive.

(50:27):
Like yes, he destroys things andI 100% would be doing the same
thing if I was in his position. I love what he's doing.
He's poking the bear and he's succeeding and having fun.
Destroying stuff's fun. It is, and when it when it comes
to 32 GTRI get a little a littlesad inside of course, but it's

(50:51):
so cool to see because it's not mine.
It's his. That's the beautiful thing about
it. Is it now, if he's destroying
someone else's car, yo, dude, that's bad.
Yeah, this is yours. Whatever.
And so I was like, I'm like, I'mgoing to let him drive my car.
And people like you're you're out of your mind.
Like you OK, you should sleep onthat.

(51:11):
And I'm like watching the videosand like even like when he
crashes the cyber truck into theside of the building, which is
like one of a very notorious film of his, you can watch him
and he does it on purpose, like,and and that's even what he
said. I'm like, yeah, dude, people
told me I was like a complete idiot for letting you drive my
car, but I knew you're good. And he's like, yeah, he's like

(51:33):
crashing and not getting hurt isharder than crashing because
you're crashing. I believe that.
Or driving well and not crashing.
He's like, it's really harder. Yeah, yeah.
You know, like, yeah, watching him drive a semi through the
woods, like he's like hauling ass.
So how did he do though? Like it's actually drive because
you obviously you see it in in the video and it's it's cut up

(51:55):
content, but like how cut up actually is it?
Did he really flow that well? Our.
Video is less cut up so we have a behind the scenes ish art art
thing so we. They're about to come hauling
ass real quick. So.
You got like three more seconds.One thing I didn't really touch

(52:17):
on is that we started a new YouTube channel called Taxi
Garage Overtime to split the carcontent from the cart content.
So. You could be more focused,
right? So on the taxi garage overtime
YouTube channel is the R versionof us going there with the drift
cars. So it's him driving the car, us
drifting the driveway and Cody, Cody did awesome.

(52:37):
Like, you know that the drivewayis insane.
It feels like a toge with with banking.
So it's banked and then like switch back and then like AU
turn that's like slightly banked, but on the edge of it is
a Cliff. No guardrail, no nothing.
So we drove a few times and likegot you know, me and Ryan drive

(52:59):
really well together. So like pretty comfortable first
lap out and no one crashed and then, you know, got the footage.
It was sick. Lot of grip.
I could tell in the video. A lot of grip and so I'm like,
yo, dude, you want to, you know,drive it.
So he gets in, does his normal like, you know, they're they

(53:20):
just film on iPhones all of their stuff.
They have one guy that's like the the nice shot guy, they had
some funny name for him, like the the fancy shot guy who has 1
camera right? And the rest of them have
iPhones and, and so, you know, he's in the car doing like his
typical nonsense and then gets in and, and like, so I ride with

(53:41):
him and I'm like, I don't know, maybe I can at least tell him no
if we get to a point of no. You know like maybe it to some
capacity I can control this, maybe I was like.
I don't know, like getting in itwas I don't know, I'm not, I'm
not like all there anyway, so. There's two people who love to

(54:02):
destroy shit having fun, no. Worries and so like he got in it
and like just started throwing doughnuts and had throttle
control and he was like and likefeeling it right like.
Not. Normal.
And then without even saying anything, he drifts into his
shop. You know, we've done it.

(54:23):
So he'd already seen it happen. So it's like, OK, like.
So he throws it in there and it's like ice because it's
polished concrete. And he's got Ben pack lifts,
which one of our other big partners, they're great.
So they work with him as well and they so they have been
packed lifts there and I'm like,we're going to crash into this
lift because like when I flew inthere, I'm like.

(54:45):
Oh no, you're just. Gliding and you're like, Oh my
God, And he comes in and but at least like turns and then you
know, I have only 255 on the front of my car, so it's got
some grip. So like scrubbed in and like all
right, cool. So he's doing Donuts and then
decides it's going up the driveway, which was never
discussed and I didn't think wasgoing to happen.

(55:06):
Oh no. And he shifts, he clicks third,
oh shit, clicks 3rd. And he's like, and, and like
kicks it out. And I got scared.
Oh dude, I got scared. And now he's drifting the
driveway. Never been in a drift car, had
good throttle control, pretty OKcar control.

(55:27):
And so now we're going up the driveway and he's, you know, and
like does EU turn and then like pulls the E brake and does the
180 at the end of the driveway. And I'm like, you've never
drifted before. He's like.
No, that is insane. It was, I'm like, I'm like, all

(55:47):
right, take it easy going down. Down's a different.
Story He's like, OK, and just lights it off, right?
And then the one thing that showed that he really didn't
have a lot of drifting experience was he didn't know
how to use the handbrake. And that turn is a 180 downhill
like with a little little like alittle teeny like flick.

(56:10):
Like I was flicking in and then like setting and then on
throttle down. Gotcha, gotcha.
Well, he just turns in down like, And so we went into a
push. It's got a welded diff in it.
It's a drift car. It's it, it pushes.
If you're not, if you don't set it, it pushes.
And so now we're in a push and like in the video, you hear me

(56:31):
like scream like oh God because it's like EU turn and like he
pushes and then like throttles though So like again, very good
because he throttles. So like we touched the edge of
the. I'm getting anxious just sitting
here listening to this, that's why I'm not saying anything.
You touch the edge and then and he like that really wasn't that

(56:52):
wasn't in his video. It's in our, it's in our video.
It's kind. Of in this.
Video 'cause they were all down to the thing, 'cause no one
expected to do it. It wasn't planned.
They guys weren't set up like itwas very just like.
You know, just fucking go. He just scared the life out of.
Him and so then like he goes down and then he was doing this

(57:14):
it's pretty cool and he's like we're coming down like down the
driveway and then he was like throttling and just like
pitching the car like towards exactly where he crashed the
cyber truck. Like he'd come down the driveway
at the shop and then like throttle it and it would go and
push the clutch in and it would like.
So he's like, it was pretty coollike.
Dude. It's very.

(57:35):
I can't believe, like, obviouslyI get where you're coming from.
He is. He does seem like he's a good,
good driver just from what he does on his own.
Yeah, but fuck, as soon as he would have just let let it off
and started going up the the road, I would have been like,
hold up, wait a second. You said you don't know how to
drive. We got to talk about this.
I let it happen. Yeah.

(57:57):
So my car had already seen a lot.
So there's two things, right? Even the camera guy goes, well,
there goes our new semi budget when he got in the car, right?
Because again, you know. New semi budget what?
What a wild term. Yeah, like, you know, like so
and he, they all just laughed. Like, you know, it's he has the

(58:18):
money to fix it now. It wasn't even fully disgusted.
Like, yo, if you write this thing off, you're going to buy
it. But.
That's a natural contract, unwritten contract you're
signing as soon as you show up on that property, I would guess.
I I would, I would hope you know, I, I think in good faith
that it would have been OK. So nothing happened, you know,

(58:39):
fortunately, but it was going togo good either way for us as in
the media standpoint, one successful he's a good driver.
Cool that pipe you know? Or whistle and diesel total with
my car. Either way, you got a hell of a
title, dawg. People love drama and they love
carnage, so I was like, whatever.

(59:03):
His is I total these two random dudes drift cars.
You know, I mean, obviously we've done a lot.
I'm not best friends with him, Right, right.
You know, he's, he's a good dude.
So is there anything you want tomention for this coming up year
as far as your program goes? Taxi garage as a whole?
Shout your sponsors out. Yeah, we're just doubly shout
the partners out. But yeah, so basically, you

(59:24):
know, 25 is definitely focused on on prospect debut for Ryan
with getting some events in, youknow, for me and then Charlie
coming up as a driver too. We didn't really talk about, but
Charlie, we got into drifting. He's got three DZ more seat
time, you know, FDF angle kid Cage gets cage.
So we're going to do some eventswith him, but I want to do US

(59:45):
drift circuit pro am maybe just hop in for a few events of
those. I want to stay fun like we're
talking about and then yeah, I don't know, we're kind of just
taking it by ear. Grid Life, More Fuel Fest,
probably do the CART event at Rd.
America, Grid Life. But yeah, I want to thank our
partners. So Motegi is a huge supporter of

(01:00:06):
our program, Prismatic Powders, Ben Pack, BC Racing and we've
kind of. Slim down the program a little
bit more just as we get bigger, we're trying to focus more on
select partners and be stronger with them.
So these are partners that we'veworked with for a long time.
And then, you know, fuel Lab is a new a new partner with us, ECU

(01:00:28):
Masters and Link. So Link is controlling the cars.
These two Masters is crawling the body.
And then and we don't really have a tire sponsor right now.
We're kind of trying to figure out where to go retire streets
for a while. And you know, our contract ended
at the end of the year. We started talking with XCOM,
but now that Ryan's an FD, they're like, it's hard.

(01:00:50):
GTS Yeah, yeah. GT Radio makes.
It hard to make a deal. So we're not really sure where
that goes, but yeah, just take that one day of time and.
Figure it out. And yeah, we can't thank you
guys enough for watching this podcast.
Obviously supporting Dawson. Support us.
Check out our channels. My personal Instagram is Nick
Jeezy. We've got Taxi Garage for the
karting content. You got Taxi Garage Overtime for

(01:01:12):
the car content. That's YouTube for both of
those. And then, yeah, check us out.
Absolutely. Better do that and if you want
to do a more full on episode with like the whole taxi garage
crew, drop that in the comments.We've got Ryan coming on next,
so we'll hear from him as well. But I just want to say thank you
for making the time, man. I really appreciate you coming

(01:01:34):
on and thanks for what you're doing for the industry.
It's very niche, but it's very cool.
Thanks for the support. Like we don't do any of this
without support. Absolutely.
And it's it's been cool for people to support.
Yeah, check us out. Check out.
Keep supporting Dawson, support us.
We love it. Much love.
See you later. Yo dude, when's your first
event? I think it's in, like, I think

(01:02:01):
it's in two weeks, something like that.
But dude, have you even ordered tires yet?
Oh, my God, you're right, dude. Thanks for that reminder.
I got to do that. Yeah, no problem, man.
Have you tried the Zek Nova's yet?
I mean, I've been tossing aroundthe idea of doing that, but I
think realistically, I'm just going to buy some cheap Walmart
tires like I usually do. No.
OK, No, we're not doing that. You've had plenty of seat time

(01:02:22):
by now. You need proper tires.
But what do you mean proper tires?
Well what I mean by proper tiresis like better grip, more
consistency, longer life, and asweird as it sounds, even smells
better. But bro there's so much more
expensive. No no no no.
Just use the circle drift code. It's like 20% off yo.
Wait, really? But what?
What do I do for the next event?Well, then just use it again.

(01:02:45):
I mean, you can literally use itall season if you want.
Well shit, you ain't going to tell me twice.
I'm going to do that. Same goes for you too.
If you're looking to get your tires before the 1st event.
Maybe it's coming up quick. Drop down below to the link to
Zic Nova tires and use the code Circle Adrift to get 20% off.
Hell yeah. All right, well, here we are.
This is what, the second third one?

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I don't know of today, but we just had 1/2 or 1/3 the whole
taxi garage crew. So got you on now Mr. Ryan,
that's me. How we doing today?
I know we've had our first pro spec this time.
So yeah, how's the weekend going?
Weekends going great. I built this car in 2 1/2 months

(01:03:25):
from like a bare shell. So the fact that we got out here
and we weren't under the car at all, that was like the win, you
know, Because obviously if you saw a pro spec, I beat myself,
drove off into the grass right after.
Like I probably had that win. Even Jared said it on the live
stream. All you had to do was finish.
What do you think happened there?
Like what I got? Faced in the smoke 100%, like I

(01:03:47):
kind of knew I had like an advantage at that point and I
kind of was like, oh, I'm not going to go 110, which you
should always stay 110. But I phased myself and was
like, oh, just chill. And then he smoked me out and I
got phased on clipping points. I don't have great muscle memory
here. Very limited time on this track.

(01:04:07):
So beat myself, have you? You've ever driven this track
before? A.
Long time ago, yeah, 13 years ago I did Streetwise Drift,
which was like the first Pro AM in conjunction with Formula D
and so I drove here both years. There was one year where we were
going into the keyhole at 1st and coming up and around.
And then the second year I droveStreetwise Drift.

(01:04:28):
They had changed the layout to what it is now where you go up
the keyhole and come back down, right, Right.
But that was, you know, 13 yearsago and my car was 350
horsepower and stock angle. Yeah, just pissing.
Barely any horsepower. Exactly so.
That's crazy. So as far as like the
intimidation factor coming back down that hill after so many

(01:04:48):
years, did it kind of bring backany fear or like, were you
pretty steady with it? I'd say I don't like now.
I used to get the butterflies a lot.
I'd say three years ago when we started doing clutch kickers
again and because we had been out of the game drifting for a
while and I would get the butterflies, I'd get in my head.
And now I think I'm a bit more seasoned where I try to just

(01:05:11):
stay like having fun good. So if I know I'm going to go up
against great drivers like I gotthe chance to this week, I just
focus on having a good lap with them and making sure I'm, you
know, putting it on as best as Ican because this is your one
opportunity to like be 110% on track with these awesome other
competitors. Absolutely.
So yeah, I wasn't really nervous.

(01:05:32):
You know, I was like more like, let me add them.
Let me add them. Little Scrappy, you know, from
Scooby-doo. Scrappy Doo.
Like, let me add them. Do you think that's a that
probably hinders you or makes iteven better for you that you are
that way? I come from like a skateboarding
background. So like, I try not to think, you
know, like if you go down to A10stair, you're going to hit the

(01:05:53):
rail if you think you're dead already.
So you basically like you learn to just do muscle memory and
like just imagine what you want in your head and just keep
thinking about landing the trick, you know?
So that's what I try to do when I'm at the top of the hill.
And just like every driver, we we make it through the track.
Everyone's like, Yo, you drove sick.
But in my head, I'm like, bro, that was sketch.

(01:06:15):
Yeah. Like, I landed my heels touched
the ground, bro. Like I got to do it again.
But you made it. No, dude, I didn't make it.
Like, not not satisfying. Exactly.
So I come from that background. So for me, I'm like, I got to
get it to the point of where I'mlike, that was sick.
And I didn't really have that inany of my practice or my, you
know, lead or chase. So, you know, I want to get to

(01:06:36):
that point driving my car, especially with the new setup
that it has. If I get to that point, then I
think I'll be able to express myself through the chassis the
way I know I can. Then what are some of the
differences going into FD that you made to the car that you
weren't quite familiar with? Like what specifically did you
change? Yeah, we did the standard
recipes, so it was the dog box, the G Force GSR and then I did

(01:06:59):
the winners quick change. So this is the first Formula
Drift legal RX7 with a winners quick change.
That was the hardest task building this car and setting it
up because the axles had to be custom.
They had never been made before.Shout out to Drive Shaft Shop
for working with me on that and building me custom sets and
spares and an awesome drive shaft because without them I

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don't think I would have. The car would have been
complete, but I would have had no axles, right?
So that was like a mission because axles generally take a
month, a month and 1/2 for custom sets.
And the first thing I did on thebuild in February was put the
winners in the car. And at that point I was like,
OK, I need to order axles. And then I hit up different
companies and they were all like12 weeks, 3 months, like

(01:07:42):
whatever it was. And I was just like feeling
really disheartened. Like, man, if I finish this car,
am I going to even be able to, you know, drive it down the
road? So that those were probably the
biggest differences on this car is just getting that drivetrain
set up properly in the chassis to work and not have vibrations,
like get the angles right and stuff like that.

(01:08:03):
Other than that, it's a standardrecipe.
The LS under the hood. I did my own motor mount kit, so
I position it the way I want it.I'm my own fabricator on a
manufacturing facility. So like I make and have all the
machines to do everything myself.
And the brain for it. Basically, yeah, I do have an
engineering degree, so that helps.
So like what I make is, you know, kind of, you know, at

(01:08:24):
least in my brain it makes sense.
I don't like test it in a computer, but in my brain I'm
like, yeah, that's going to work.
And it has. So I don't know.
I'm going to keep going with that.
Good, good. Well for anyone out there that
doesn't know, I know you mentioned the first FC legal
like prospect car, FD car. In general, what makes an FC or

(01:08:46):
an RX7 not legal for FD in? General so you know, there's
specific rules about putting a quick change in a car and I had
to build the quick change setup in the chassis to be legal to
the rules for here. So that's what makes it like the
world's first so to speak. There's other FCS that have put
quick changes in their cars. Not in America besides Colette,

(01:09:08):
which we both kind of did. Heart did ours at the same time.
But hers is a completely different version of how you
would do it than how I made mine.
So both of ours are completely unique in that aspect.
But yeah, it's just a rule book.You know, you got to build a car
to a fine tee exactly how they want it.
And yeah, I could have done it 50 other ways, but would it have

(01:09:31):
passed tech? So thankfully Kevin's super cool
and I just emailed him all the photos, the designs, like what I
had in mind. And he looked at it and he was
like, dude, this looks great, send it so.
Hell yeah. Well now that you got, is that
the first winters you've ever had or like quick change or
anything like that? Never driven with a car with a
dog box or a quick. Change.
Now you've made the change, whatis your perspective on it and

(01:09:53):
why do you think someone should make the jump to a dog box or a
quick change or that excessive of a drive chain?
It is a huge financial jump, I would say financially.
But once you're on track, the adjustability, the
controllability of the car is 10times beyond what you'll get out
of just having like a stock trans and a stock diff.

(01:10:15):
You know, you can have two or three different dips if the car
came with different ringing pinions that you could swap, but
you're still very limited, especially for this type of like
light off the car exactly in every zone perfectly.
You do have to dial in the wheelspeeds like perfectly and I'm
such a newbie at this stuff. That was kind of my biggest fear
coming in was man, I don't really drive like lighting the

(01:10:37):
car off. I'm kind of a a peddler.
I'm not the one to make a ton ofsmoke.
I hit the zones really well normally, but like here, you get
deducted for not lighting the car off it as maximum full
throttle as you can. So yeah, I mean, it's
tremendous. If you really want to be a
Formula D driver, I'd say beforeyou get to pro spec or Formula
D, have a quick change in the dog bucks in your car and go to

(01:10:59):
your Pro AM and compete. Because I would have probably
done better had I done that the year that I won my license,
because I would have had that experience with setting up gear
ratio, setting up the car to light off in every zone.
And I still was like last year Iwas in AT56 with a Ford 88 in
the back of my other RX7. And it was just like a, a setup

(01:11:20):
that had a really long gear ratio.
And you know, I just like if youwatch any of the clips, like I'm
hitting the zones perfectly, butthe car is like minimal smoke,
you know, and here you need that, not just the smoke, but
the wheel speed. So what is as far for this
track? Let's say what is an A wheel
speed you're aiming to hit for this.
So I know the pros are somewherearound 1:30 and I thought that

(01:11:44):
for me, I should be a little lower just because my car has a
lot of forward drive, not a lot of side bite.
And I wanted to be able to lightoff, you know, at a good RPM
range. And obviously I'm still such a
newbie. So if you take try to take my
advice, you know, take it with agrain of salt.
But I ran a 412 on this, which is relatively short.

(01:12:06):
You could run shorter. I have a 6800 RPM Rev limit that
put me at right around. Well, I did the calculation at
6500 RPMS, we're right around 118 mph for wheel speed.
So at true Rev limit, which I never hit, I should have been at
like 1/21/21 in which a lot of the other guys that I spoke to
were in between the 118 to 125 range.

(01:12:29):
And you know, watching the guys who were in the top 16 last
night, you can see they were dialed.
They had the wheel speeds proper, they had the gear ratio
set right. You know, it was me.
I was just struggling, you know,just fighting to figure out like
if I light it off now, is it going to light off?
If I light it off a second later, is it going to make me
fly off into the pit? I didn't know.

(01:12:49):
I'm still a newbie, so I'm stoked though.
We didn't work on the car, like I said, so we just literally
changed tires and made adjustments on suspension up top
of the hill, and that's a win for me.
We learned a lot, so you got to just stay positive and not beat
yourself up, which we all do. It's part of it.
It's going to happen exactly. But as far as the the layout,

(01:13:10):
though I know it may be causing some challenges, probably not
for you as much because this is your first prospect coming into
it. So this is a a fresh layout.
You didn't really drive the lastlayout right because it was
coming into the the keyhole. I did drive both so I drove it
the year that they the year before they changed it and then
the year that they changed it. But like I said, it was 13 years

(01:13:33):
ago and my car was completely different car.
It was still an RX7 but. OK.
So what are what are your opinions on the different layout
this year and why in like the outer zone that we have and all
the wrecks that we keep seeing also all of this shit.
Yeah, the wrecks that I saw, I'll talk about that first.
That was the craziest wrecks I've ever seen here because

(01:13:53):
people were getting pushed into the wall which was wild.
I don't know if it was due to the layout, I've heard
conflicting stories. I have to.
Yeah, I don't have a real opinion on it.
I think it makes sense to set upthe lead driver to drive the bro
line because if you want to keepcutting that inner clip, we've
seen it. The Chase driver goes deeper

(01:14:14):
into the grass with both front wheels and he's like bouncing
off, you know, the edges of the asphalt.
So I get it. You got Reese up there who
really understands drifting and driving as a whole.
And I think the decision that they made makes sense to give
the Chase driver the chance to stay in the pocket the entire
lap. And I think when you watch a lot

(01:14:34):
of the drivers, a lot of them are still using the muscle
memory from the previous layout.They're still hitting the clips
on the inside, not hitting the wheel zones that they want you
in and you need. A square go like halfway through
their car. Yeah, it's right where they're
sitting in the car and it's like, that's not it.
Yeah, So I don't, I don't know what they're doing up in the
judges stand because was watching the pro guys on

(01:14:55):
Thursday night do the seating. You know, I was just kind of
like, man, everyone's just kind of running a old style layout
there. You know, when they go and they
hit the touch and go coming backdown, yeah, you know, they're
they're staying wide. But it was a valid change.
You know, I get it. It's the progression of the
sport. Every round they're trying to
make it better. It's still so new have.

(01:15:15):
You been able to go up and, like, watch the layout just as a
spectator? Yeah.
Feel, Yeah. Exactly, that's what I was
saying. Thursday night I watched the
proceeding bracket and that's that's where it came most
apparent because I'm like, dude,everyone's cutting the inside.
Like maybe not on the touch and go section, but on a lot of the
other sections and they're not trying to run away from each

(01:15:36):
other. I think it's just old muscle
memory. And visually it makes sense to
aim the front end at the apex ofthe turn.
It's kind of weird to aim at something that's painted on the
ground that is away from like what a natural apex would be on
the track. So I think that's kind of
different for driving. Even in the drivers meeting
human Rahimi was like, is that easy to see?

(01:15:59):
Like, have you driven it? Like is it easy to see?
And I was like, yeah, I got the same question because I normally
like the clip and you can rub your front end on that clip
because you have the visual reference.
But when it's underneath your car and you're kind of like
throwing it there, you're like, was it behind my wheel?
Was it in the under the bumper? I know in the moment I can see
that being a a big hassle for the lead car or just the chase

(01:16:19):
car, you're just you're following the line either way,
so. Exactly.
But I I just, I really prefer the way it is now simply because
it keeps both cars on track in the pocket all the time.
And from a a spectator perspective the the runs look
more wild and the drivers look better.

(01:16:41):
It's true with. This layout, they just look
better, especially coming right back up the hill.
I know most of the wrecks are happening there, but dude, the
transitions right there are so close and it looks so good.
So right where the crowd is. You know it.
I don't know, I think it's fantastic.
Reese has a good head on his shoulders and I think he's
providing a lot for FD. So I hope you guys think the

(01:17:03):
same thing as drivers. I don't, I don't.
That would suck, I agree that way.
But yeah man. Well, as far as maybe not the
driving side of things going, you are still a part of taxi
garage. So what is your physical
position in the company and how do you benefit from it or

(01:17:23):
benefit the company? Sorry.
Yeah. So Taxi Garage is a group of
three owners. There's me, Charlie Fallon, Nick
Ward, who you had a interview with earlier today.
And the three of us basically have this business together.
We all share kind of the role asthe owners, operators, whatever
it takes to make everything happen.

(01:17:44):
Yeah, I mean, basically I am like I was saying, I'm a
manufacturing facility. So I have a business before I
was a partner in Taxi Garage andmy company RK Metal works with
my employee Reed Goodman. We are the manufacturers of all
the SLR angle kits. So I've been making those since
2017. So all the chromoly control

(01:18:06):
arms, I've been coming out of myshop since then.
And so when it came time to manufacture parts for crazy
carts, I was making kits for like me and the homies just to
ride. And by then we had like 10
homies riding with us just like drinking beers on a night and
going out and ride until 2:00 AMhaving so much fun.

(01:18:26):
And I started making these kids.All of the homies had them and
they were like, dude, they're great.
Like maybe we make a little change here, a little change
there. So at the facility I have, I
would make the changes. And then Nick and Charlie came
to me and they said, dude, we want to sell this.
Like, how can we convince like you to get on board with us and
let's make a team where this is what we're going to do and be a

(01:18:46):
team and partners and build thisbrand in this business.
And I was like, dude, like, let's do it.
Like you guys are hard workers. I see the motivation you guys
have. You know, I've been grinding my
whole life at my shop since I graduated from college to make
my business. You know what it is and have all
the machines that I have and theknowledge that I have of
manufacturing things. And I was just like, you know,

(01:19:09):
I'm always looking for someone eager to do whatever it takes.
And those dudes do whatever it takes to build the business,
build the brand. So my role more than anything is
the designer, fabricator, manufacturer, and, you know,
prototyper. Quality aspect.
Everything that we sell and thenany new ideas they'll have,

(01:19:30):
they'll tell me. I'll get on CAD, drop us a
sample, we cut it or we send it out if it's something I don't
have the machines to make. So basically they'll even come
up with ideas now and then I'll take it to the drawing board and
make it into something we can sell.
So yeah, that's basically my role.
They run basically the entire business day-to-day.

(01:19:51):
I still have to run the manufacturing side most of the
day, so I'm at the other business running that and
basically maintaining all the products that have to be
produced. For them to assemble the carts
and do stuff like that in crunchtime, fourth quarter and other
builds that we have, you know, I'll leave my shop for a month
or two and stay over there 12-14hour days with them and do

(01:20:14):
whatever it takes. Like I said, we're the three
people that do whatever it takes, which it's rare to find
that, especially when you have 3owners and all different like,
you know, situations. So I'm blessed, yeah.
Emotions, all of it. I'm sure it's I'm sure you still
have days too where it's not theprettiest and it's not the best

(01:20:35):
thing, but we all got those bad days no matter what job.
But as far as the structural integrity of it, since you are
the fabricating aspect of it, how did you make them so stout?
Because we're like, we talked about it with Nick how Whistle
and Diesel has some of the crazycards and going back, they were
still fine. They still worked, maybe some

(01:20:56):
motor problems, so on. So some parts, you know,
consumable shit happens. But the fact that he destroys
things literally for a living and those things are still stout
as can be. What?
How did you math that out? Like what?
What? How do you make them so science?
Bro Science. What all are you changing as
part of the frame? Are you doing anything to the

(01:21:17):
frames? Yeah, I don't know if Nick said,
but we do offer a Stage 5 model,which is like what we do with
the car. Like the cars, we strip them.
So we send them out to a bead blaster, we strip them down.
I stitch, Weld the chassis. I add gussets in crucial areas
that we've seen crack and bend. So I Weld those in and basically

(01:21:37):
from there it makes the chassis super strong.
And then the components that we use, like the fork and the
casters, we've just had years and years of testing them to
know that, hey, I've sent that off of A6 Stair and it still
didn't break. You know, like Charlie, the
other owner, one time we were inMiami, he's like, we're ripping
through like just some area. There's like handicap access and

(01:21:58):
then there's like a stair gap. But he got confused and thought
the the stair gap was the handicap access.
So literally we didn't have the cameras rolling.
But he flies off, 6th stair dies, cart's still fine.
We still drive it up 'cause thisis like the first year they did
F1 in Miami. So we got the carts down there
and like we like bent the cart back to straight and then we

(01:22:19):
still have him just like hobbling the cart back down
through the streets of Miami. It was the funniest thing.
But the components were good, but the cart like folded in and
we didn't have stage fives at that time.
So it was just like the components, the casters and the
fork. So but that's that, that's what
showed us to build the stage 5 chassis because those we've
jumped. I did a like a three foot jump
on one of Chelsea's videos a couple months ago and you can

(01:22:42):
see me just in the air slapping the cart back down.
Nothing broke, no damage, no issues.
That is insane. Now how bad have you hurt
yourself? I mean, I'm a skateboarder, so
like I've hurt myself way worse skateboarding than crazy
karting. But it is a dangerous sport just
like anything. I don't think I've had really
bad accidents. I like blow my elbows out a lot.

(01:23:04):
It's like when you tip and you fall, I put my elbow down.
I probably should just wear likethe soft elbow pads and I'd be a
lot better off. But I don't know, I'm an idiot.
Sometimes I just, I'm like, I'm going to.
Send it, yeah. And that's why it's our motto.
Well, you've got to be a little reckless making those.
Exactly. And that's where the videos do
well because we drive like idiots on these things.

(01:23:25):
And if we crash, it does well online when people see us eat it
and get back out and still drive.
Yeah. So now, although the cars may be
pretty stout, what are for anyone that doesn't know, what
are some of the consumables thatyou'll naturally have to go
through? Yeah, tires, front tire, which
we offer a bunch of different types depending on how you
drive, and then the rear wheels,which we offer a couple

(01:23:46):
different types of rear wheels as well.
Those are the main two things that you're going to go through
if you have the card for over a year or two, you know, just like
a car sitting, if you don't use it all the time, the battery,
you may need to replace the battery, but you know that that
makes sense. Batteries don't last five to 10
years. You know, tires.

(01:24:06):
I'd say the way we ride, we're full throttle 90% of the time
and we'll go through the tires. Do those things go actually like
the stage 5/1? Mine goes over 32 so like.
The lowest level. Well, stock they go like 9 to an
11 with an adult and like, you know, the stage one that we
offer, which is like our entry level, those go around 16 to 17

(01:24:27):
mph. Wow.
So for beginners, it's like thisis so fast.
And then once you do it for a month, you're like, wait, I want
to go faster. Slow motion, yeah.
And that's cars too, you know, you start with your stock Z and
then you're like, bro, I need a supercharger, like right.
I need to get me one because I'mabsolutely terrible at them.

(01:24:48):
I've tried some of them up at the drift mansion and stuff with
just the basic crazy carts. Boy I'm so bad at it.
I got a little hang of it towards the end.
My biggest issue was letting go of the wheel.
Not learning to not let go of it, but man, I've got to get
some more seat time before I just go busting my ass
everywhere. Yeah, it's tough.

(01:25:09):
You know, just like anything, you're not going to hop on it
and do exactly what you see everyone else do.
So you stay humble, you put in the hours and it'll be just as
good, you know, just don't give up.
Yeah, man, you'll get there. We're going to Drift Mansion in
September, so if you're close by, which I know you're not too
far from there, right? What is it?
I don't know the hours but. It's about 6:00-ish, 6-7

(01:25:31):
something like that in. September, if you want to come
through, come through. We're doing it first week of
September. Might have to.
Yeah, I know Toge Khan out there, I'm supposed to be going
to as well. Maybe it's around the same time.
That'd be partly. Double whammy.
We'll be there during the week so you come chill with the boys
and then we can go do your tog. Yeah.
There you go. You might have to do that.

(01:25:52):
Yeah, Come. Do it.
We'll give you some lessons and then we'll # some beers.
I don't know solid. I'm in for that.
Or we'll # some beers and then try to give you lessons, one or
the other. Maybe try both?
All the bugs. But no on the the wheels though
you mentioned there's multiple different types of wheels for
different driving styles. What is like?
Is it shape wise like? What is the difference?

(01:26:12):
So for the front of the cart, weoffer solids, which are for like
the mom or dad who bought their kid a cart and don't want to
work on the cart. And the solid lasts a really
long time. You know, they're very durable,
you can drive them through anything.
They have decent grip and they're good for the lower power
carts. As you start to build more power

(01:26:33):
and more confidence, we like to recommend the knobby tire, which
has a really stiff sidewall. So the steering is really easy
when you're sideways because thesidewall is so stiff.
It doesn't give you like the, you know, the back and forth
feedback exactly. So the knobby's really good in
that aspect. When you start to get really
good at driving, we always say the CST or the Kenda, which is

(01:26:54):
name brand. That's great.
And the CST is super soft sidewall but has the most amount
of grip. So if you're heavy on throwing
back ease and you drag the fronttire, the CST is going to pull
you out of the back very predictably versus like if you
run the knobby, you kind of justkeep going and you're like, bro,
when am I going to pull out of this?
Is that the the videos? Y'all doing it where it's like

(01:27:15):
chirps and shit? What tire are you on that?
I Nick and I run the CST, same with Charlie.
But like if I'm going to drive backwards a lot and kind of do
show off stuff, I kind of preferthe knobby because it has that
sidewall and I can do things that I can't always do as smooth
on the knobby versus the CST. But depends on like where we're

(01:27:38):
going to, I have like two or three stage fives.
So I can just like put differenttires on any and just like
right, right, hop on whichever one I want.
Exactly. So it's different when you're
the owner. You just build a bunch, as many
as you want, you know, right? Right.
Is it so the tire, is it specifically made for those
crazy carts or is it like a scooter tire like?
I think originally they're all like scooter tires, you know,

(01:28:00):
they're made 200 by 50, which isthe millimeter size and it's
kind of a generic scooter size. Yeah, none of them specifically
were made for Crazy Card. And actually we did develop the
Super Solid, which is like an oversized tire that has it's
just a taller sidewall, so you have more meat on the solid to

(01:28:22):
burn through until it's super small.
So it's just a bigger solid tire.
And that we did prototype and design overseas.
We own the molds for that. So that is something we
manufacture with our company overseas to do that with, but
none of the air tires. We do have a company in America
that has reached out to us that won't name their name until it's
like a thing. But they said that they were

(01:28:44):
interested in making molds and building an air tire that is
potentially the bee's knees. So we'll see if that comes true.
That would be awesome. I agree man.
So like the as far as when stuffdoes go bad, how hard is it to
replace things, especially the tire because I don't know the

(01:29:06):
underneath workings of it or anything.
But like even if a motor goes bad, like what's the time frame
of all this stuff to even change?
Yeah. So changing a tire, I mean, if
you're like me, experience, you'll do it in 2 minutes.
If you're someone who's never done it, maybe 15 to 25 minutes.
What is nice is that rim is unboltable.

(01:29:27):
So you don't need like a tire machine.
You don't have to pry anything. It's like 2.
PS. It's 2 PS.
So it's just four 5mm Allen bolts, quickly unbolt them and
slap the thing back together. We have videos on our YouTube
how to do it easily and quick like we do it.
It's convenient. Yeah.
I'd say it's like if any basic set of tools, you should be able
to do it. You know the time is dependent

(01:29:50):
on if you're using power tools or if you're using hand tools
and what your level of experience with using tools are.
That that. Makes sense.
But yeah, I mean, most of the maintenance is super easy.
Like I feel like it's a really good entry level toy to like
tinker with and especially if you buy the DIY kits and install
it yourself, watching our videos, that's where you really

(01:30:10):
like get familiar with the cart and the couple bits of tools
that you need to service it and work on it.
So I like it when people do thatbecause then they they learn
everything and then they, they really ride hard because they
know, oh damn. I should, you know, check the
caster bolts every month, you know, it's just vibration.
They get loose. You know, we even when you use
red Loctite, it's not a guaranteed thing.

(01:30:32):
So it's cool, you know, it's a very simple toy to have.
You know, mind you, the price ofthings are what they are
nowadays. But yeah, it's easy to work on
for the most part. What doesn't average one cost
like say a middle ground set up?Nothing too fancy, but nothing
too beginner friendly. Say 1800 bucks to 2500 bucks
will get you in the realm of something that will scare you,

(01:30:55):
you know at 1st until you're good.
Yeah, give you a few scrapes andstuff. 100%, yeah.
They have like safety pegs in the front.
So at first when you're learning, if you tip a little
bit, it kind of, you know, stopsyou from flipping.
But we don't use those things. We just.
We don't need those where we're going.
Exactly. Yeah, so.
It's cool y'all have done some pretty gnarly designs not just

(01:31:18):
for the giveaways but for, you know, collabs and just, you
know, basic ones you sell. So who's coming up with all of
these, for one? It's a collaborative effort.
I mean, Charlie is really good. KC, our media master, both of
them are really good at Photoshop and kind of coming up
with grinders and stuff like that.
And then we also have our buddy Huniskins Anthony.

(01:31:41):
He has created a company that isnow making custom livery wraps
that are pre cut to fit onto theCrazy Cart chassis.
So he's the one that wrapped my Formula Drift Pro spec car and
him and Glob Designs came up with a design.
Anthony spent three days wrapping the car doing a killer
job and he does a lot of the wraps and all those cool
liveries that you see on the chassis.

(01:32:02):
But that was only up until maybeabout 5 or 6 months ago when he
first came out with this idea and beat before that, it was a
we left it up to the customer, you know, if they bought a stage
5, we give you the option to, you know, have me cut out your
logos on my CNC machine and Weldthose logos to the chassis.
So, you know, like if you're a company and you have whatever

(01:32:22):
brand on the back and you want to have 10 carts at your event,
boom, we'll cut your company logo, we Weld it to the chassis
and then we'll do colors that are branded around, you know,
circle adrift. We'll use the the load, the
lettering, we'll cut vinyls, we'll put it on the card.
So it's very visible. So it's a big collaborative
effort. There's, you know, four of us
that I just named that are constantly going back and forth

(01:32:44):
on the design and then nickel chime in and be like, we need to
put like the Arizona card. He's like, we need an Arizona
can on the drip bar. I'm like, dude, you're going to
make me fabricate an Arizona canlike into a drift bar.
They're like, you got to do it bro, you got to do it.
You have no choice. Basically, yeah, sometimes I'm
like ready to just like, slap myself because I'm like, bro,

(01:33:05):
why do they ask me to do these things?
Because it's the craziest, most wild thing.
But when they assemble them and they complete them and then
Casey does the photo shoot, theydo the build breakdowns people
love. Them.
Which one were you like the mosthesitant about until you saw the
final product? I'd say we haven't released this
one yet, but we built a full shopping cart.

(01:33:28):
Crazy cart. I literally like I cut a
shopping cart up and like menaged it into the chassis.
And then I also had to like individually Add all the little
like pieces to complete it because cutting up a shopping
cart doesn't give you enough to like do the whole chassis.
So when that one drops I have the most amount of man hours and

(01:33:49):
with my employee and my other part time guy the most amount of
hours have been put into that chassis.
So when that one drops I'm superexcited to see it.
But like the headache that it was at the shop was like 1 off.
Thing. Don't ask us to do that one
again. Please.
Please don't. If someone did, how much would
you have to charge for? Something Charlie handles that

(01:34:10):
part, so find out in the emails.I don't know.
I like what's. Your guess is in the comments.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, It's not cheap, you know,
but you're paying for man hours of something customized and hand
built, tailored to exactly what you want.
And we do the renders, we send it to you, we have you approve
it. Even if they say I don't like
that, we'll cut it off and we'llredo it.

(01:34:32):
I mean, we bend over backwards for customers because we love to
please people. We generally try to go above and
beyond what they ordered becausethey're expensive.
Toys is, you know, we want to surpass expectations.
We're not just like, get it out the door, bro.
Get the money. That's never been us.
That's never going to be us. Yeah, we like money, but at the
same time, we like relationships.

(01:34:54):
And the more good relationships you have, the Better Business
you do. Absolutely.
I would 100% agree with that. Is there anyone that has reached
out to get a custom one that hasjust had, you know, probably the
coolest idea? Or maybe there's several of them
that you have Just for anyone that's out there maybe wanting
to get a custom one, but they'retrying to figure out the idea

(01:35:14):
that they're going with or what color scheme or anything like
that. What has been your favorite?
So favorite, I would say James Deans really, if you've seen it,
it's literally the perfect homage of his S14 or S15 S 15 S
14.5, whatever it is, right? That car in Ireland that he has

(01:35:35):
and we literally spent a ton of time, that one is the sickest
because I welded a wing that's removable.
So he has the full wing with thesimilar like side plates.
Like that one's super sick. But if you have any custom idea,
call us, e-mail us. We love to work back and forth
with you and try to get your ideas locked in.
We had a guy from, I think it was Ecuador.

(01:35:58):
He owns like a eyeglass company,like in all of South America,
owns one of the largest companies over there.
And he's like me and my son, man.
We ride ATVs, dirt bikes, everything.
He's like, I'm going to fly overthere and we're going to work
out something sick. And so we flew over, comes to
the shop, sits down with us. Charlie probably spent half a
day with him just figuring out the cards to make.

(01:36:18):
It. Right the way he wants it.
Because we care. We're not just like, this is
what you get. No, Like, dude, whatever you
want, we're going to do it. It may take longer, but we're
going to create your idea. That's good man, I love to hear
that. I love to see that things are
going good too because y'all have exploded so fast because I,
I think the first time I noticedyou guys or even knew what it

(01:36:40):
was, was literally right around the time I even learned about
crazy cards a few years ago. So then he mentioned it earlier,
Nick mentioned that it's been around since like 2013, right?
Yeah. Never fucking knew.
Never even knew they were a thing.
That's why. So I think personally, you guys
have carried their brand for thecrazy cards for them almost.

(01:37:02):
Do you feel the same way? Funny that you mentioned that
because it is cool. When we had 300 followers, they
had like a new initiatives division employee and that
employee found us on Instagram at 300 followers and said we
need to have a Zoom meeting withthe higher ups, with you guys.
And at that moment, we were likeso giddy.
We're like, yeah, we were like, Oh my God, we're going to make

(01:37:25):
it, blah, blah, blah. We were like, nobody's sitting
in our rooms, like just twiddling our fingers.
And then we have Razor reach outto us and we're like, dude, this
is this is something huge for us.
This is 300 followers and we've gotten recognition from Razor
already. And then they called us.
We had the meeting and we were just giddy as could be.
And they realized at that momentlike, hey, this is big for us as

(01:37:47):
a parent company to make sure wesupport them.
So at that moment, you know, they were like, hey, man, we
love what you guys are doing. We love that you're pushing the
sport. We can't promote it, but we can
certainly help make sure that you have the inventory of crazy
cards that you need to help create what you want.
So we were blessed. Thank you Razor and everyone

(01:38:07):
over there because they really do anything and everything we
ask. Charlie and Nick are constantly
on the phone with them in Zoom meetings.
Charlie's constantly working outdeals with them to make part
numbers of parts on the crazy cart that never existed.
And so they'll go and do that. They'll send us renders and
drawings of how the packaging isgoing to come, what parts are
included in this new part number.

(01:38:29):
Because previously you had to buy a whole cart to get like the
bushings on the drift bar. Now we've got the drift bar as a
part number for the standard size cart.
So now people can purchase thoseparts and fix their carts.
If they're from 2014 and they missed out on, you know, getting
a part replacement, now you can get those.
So they've been great. That's crazy.

(01:38:50):
Well, obviously Razor has multiple other products, so have
you guys considered the idea of venturing off on anything else
as well to add to the collection, like maybe scooters?
Obviously people are riding scooters all the time at drift
events, so any thoughts on that or anything else?
With the scooters and the other,you know like the dirt bikes

(01:39:10):
that they sell and stuff like that.
There is another company out there that has kind of claimed
that market and we are actually friends with them.
We're in chats with them about Co collaborating something still
in the works. That's why I won't mention names
until it's. Official.
But excuse me, Yeah, we've looked at it.
We we like the pocket mods. If you've seen us on those

(01:39:32):
little Vespas, they like the razor Vespa look alike toy.
We have some kits for those thatwe haven't really pushed.
We are so swamped with crazy card sales, orders, shipping,
traveling to do events with themthat we haven't been able to
delve into designing and creating another product line
for a different razor toy. Beyond that, we have other

(01:39:55):
ideas. I like, like I said, the other
companies kind of tapped into that market really nicely and
they're very good at it. I have other ideas of products
that I've made and designed and we have another company that we
made another name and already made an LLC for.
So we are working on that. But like I said, we've been so
focused making all the products and getting the business to run,

(01:40:18):
you know, without us because we travel so much now that that's
been the main focus. But we do have all these other
products and all these other ideas that we want to release,
but it doesn't actually coincidewith toys and stuff like that.
Might be Drift parts, might be tools.
I create all sorts of stuff at my shop that every time people
come over, they're like, I want to buy this.

(01:40:40):
How much? And I'm like, dude, I need to
make like 50 of them. If I sell you one because the
moment you have one, I'm going to get 30 more DMS, bro, you
sold one to him. How come I can't get one?
Same with my FC. The moment the Drift HQ video
dropped, they showed some of thecustom stuff I made on my rear
end. And people are like, bro, how
much for a Winners quick Change kit?
Bro how much for the Camberlinks?

(01:41:00):
Companies don't make these partsand I have the ability to
manufacture them, but I need to make quantities before I go and
sell one Homey or Hurt or somebody like that that's big,
that shows it off and then I getflooded with DMS that I can't
make money on so. That totally makes sense.
It's in the works. We have a bunch of ideas, so

(01:41:20):
we'll see. You know, hopefully by the end
of this year, we'll have got thebusiness a little more
solidified to run without us constantly managing and being
there to build everything ourselves.
So really that's kind of The thing is none of us were ever
managers, none of us were ever bosses.
So we're kind of learning how todo that.
Exactly. We're we're figuring out as we
go and we're hard workers. So we generally sacrifice

(01:41:43):
ourself in our times instead of hiring somebody, which we're
trying to learn, Dude, we need to hire people and train.
Them. It's.
It's tough, Yeah. It's hard to let go of your
baby. How many employees do you have
in Circle of Drift? I have 1/10/99 contractor.
That's it. Everything else is me and then
my girl helps me with a lot of shit.

(01:42:03):
Exactly. It's a lot to take on.
It's rough, dude. Yeah.
So I could only imagine, but I am extremely stoked for you
guys. It seems like it's.
My question you've gone very farwith this, so this is sick.
Trying man. Thank you.
Got to never give up, that's howit goes.
That's right, even when it sucks.
But I guess what do you have plans for this future, for the
future of this year as far as events or anything special you

(01:42:26):
want to announce for crazy cars or taxi garage, anything?
Yeah. I mean, we have this idea of
doing a crazy car competition. We've hosted 2 events, one like
officially one kind of lower endversion of it.
That is something that we reallyhad the idea of when we started
the business that we really wanted to pursue.
But it's been really tough to dothat.

(01:42:48):
Like I keep saying, we're so busy with the business, right?
But Formula Crazy Cart is something we would love to do
more of, host more events. The one event that we did, we
had a guy flying from Chile to come and compete and another
homie drove from Arizona to comeand compete.
So there's the hype is there? Like the desire to compete
against other crazy Carters at alike big level is there.

(01:43:10):
It's like SIM racing along the lines of a niche compared to SIM
racing. And me and Nick talked about
that too. It's it's it's pretty cool.
I'm sure you can get certain techniques and stuff out of, you
know, say a taxi garage cart that you couldn't get out of a
SIM maybe or vice versa. Yeah.
So is there anything unique thathas translated for you that
you've noticed out of the crazy cars?

(01:43:33):
What do you mean? Like from crazy carding to
drifting. You know, real drifting.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's helped.Timing, timing on transitions.
Yeah, Nick, Nick swears by it. I think it helps anyone just
kind of learn timing and readingthe driver in front of you.
I think that helps a lot. Especially commitment for crazy
carding door to door at higher speeds helps.

(01:43:56):
Obviously it's scarier because when you eat it, you really hurt
your body versus like you just hurt your wallet, you know?
No one, really. As I say, you don't have to
worry about the structural integrity of it though, because
it seems pretty fine. Yeah, exactly.
Like you flip the cart, you literally your body's messed up
with the cart. You put it back down, you're
ready to ride. Yeah.
But yeah, I mean as future goes,I mean we really want to pursue,

(01:44:19):
you know, building the business to be better.
The formula crazy card events that would be huge if we could
turn that into like a four or five event a year series where
we travel throughout the nation and make it like an unlimited
series where here's the track, bring whatever you've built.
Like just let people have at it the first year and then kind of
figure out maybe we need to haverules like as to what cards

(01:44:39):
because, you know, we don't know, maybe someone's got a cart
that does stuff that other cartsdon't.
You know, I haven't really seen that defining moment between
like home builds versus our taxigarage kits.
So even with the the event that we held, people had their home
brewing carts and they may have had more power, more wattage
than ours, but even at the same time they weren't outperforming

(01:45:01):
on the track in any different way.
So we have yet to see if they need.
Cool. And even that aspect is the
same. Yeah, and that you guys allow it
too. We want to leave it open until
we see some defining moment of like, dude, that guy's cart has
way too much grip. He built the tire that like can
do stuff that you normally can, or maybe you got a fork and a
rim that he custom. Sees how many years you think

(01:45:23):
you got until you got to start doing that.
We've seen people do their own custom stuff.
We even have our own like mods for big tires and stuff that we
don't sell. But like that crazy though to
where it's like, all right, I got to draw a line somewhere.
Well, my dream is to have like an 80 mile per hour crazy cart
that I do like a lap on. I want to come out and do like a
demo in mid a formula drift whenthere's like boring downtime Bro

(01:45:46):
sending me a nick out on a crazycart like an 80 full gear like
you're on a. Motorcycle you would need to add
an extra wheel up front though. Just a good tire.
Like I mentioned with Nick, you still have that three Wheeler
titter. Yeah.
Teeter. Yeah.
Teeter Totter. Jesus, that sounded stupid.
They'd be nervous. About that, I mean, if I had
full like Moto gear on, like I'dprobably feel all right, like

(01:46:09):
full helmet, like Moto gear to slide.
If you eat it, you just slide out, whatever.
But yeah, I mean, we've yet to see the sport to where it's
going to go. We're, we definitely want to
pursue it into something bigger.We'll just see, we don't have
any specific schedule of events,but when we can fit it in, we
definitely try to. So it's on the forefront of what
we want to be working on, but but still just trying to manage

(01:46:32):
everything we're doing, especially having the Drift team
and now this whole Formula Driftprogram with me, it's a it's a
whirlwind of. Things a whole nother layer to
it bro. Yeah.
So the the more employees I think we can hire and create
like standard orders of procedures for the the way the
things run at the shop, the morechances we'll have to work on
these other avenues that we wantto go down.

(01:46:55):
And then yeah, for other events throughout the year.
To answer your other part of thequestion, just Formula Drift for
me, if I can squeeze anything else in with Nick or just help
him out with pit crew and Charlie because he's got a drift
car as well. Whatever they want to do, I'm
all on board to help them travel, be crew or drive the
truck and trailers there. You know, time permitting, I'm
all in. You know, we, we love to do the

(01:47:17):
fuel fest. We love to try to do the grid
lives, really anything that comes our way that we can
squeeze in. But as of right now, form of the
drift is the 100% thing that we're committed to.
I don't know what else Nick saidthat maybe he's 100% committed
to, but I know he wants to do USdrift circuit, a couple of
rounds of that, maybe clutch kickers.

(01:47:38):
You know it's all within time, budget and if his car is
complete you know things break and you got to fix them.
That's for sure. Well, I sure do hope this year
goes well for you, especially with the FTS.
I know it's going to be a stressful one, man.
So what? What is the next round for you
for New Jersey, NJ? OK.
Yeah. So we've got about a month and a

(01:47:59):
week so. Good amount of time.
Yeah, we've got some changes to make.
Chelsea is a long time, homie. He'll be giving me or he gave me
some some tips on what to changeon the car.
So I'm looking forward to makingthose changes.
Shout out to BC Racing. They've already told me.
I like that you're a sponsored driver by them as well.
Love your BCS. Yeah, giving away a beat this.

(01:48:21):
Weekend if you missed out on it.That sucks.
Maybe catch it at the next one. You got to stay tuned for that
because those are seriously goodcoil overs.
They're working with me and we're going to change some
spring rates and dial in a couple more things and do a test
day. So I'm stoked on that.
FDF is also a partner with us aswell.
So I'm glad to see your supporter as well and driving
with it too, right? Oh yeah, wow.

(01:48:43):
When the car works, of course. OK, so whatever works.
Car is not really a part of all of this, it's just kind of a
bonus factor. Exactly.
Well, you got to love drifting to care about talking to
Drifters. I'd imagine that's.
Very true, so it's just like you, I'm in the middle of
building a career, trying to make it something for my life.
So car has got to be put on the back burner at some point.

(01:49:03):
But do you have plans to drift and do more events and stuff
like that? No car will be finished again
with the upgrades this year. It's just I'm not setting aside
dedicated time for the car. Yeah, just when it comes, it
comes. But my focus this year is this
makes the content really do goodfor not only the viewers but the

(01:49:24):
sponsors and stuff like that. So how many episodes a month do
you put out? For one a week.
OK. So one a week.
So you have a good schedule. Every Sunday, 3:00 PM.
Sometimes it's a little late. I'm sorry.
We run into some issues. This traveling shit causes a lot
of issues. Wi-Fi sucks, all that shit.
I mean, just just for a preference, one episode can be

(01:49:44):
anywhere from 60 gigabytes all the way up to, I've had him be
150. Holy cow, I have to transfer all
of that to the editor. He has to download it all, then
start editing. Yeah, it's a whole.
And he's got to look through it all and find the good stuff and
he's got to sit there. And watch every raw second of
it. Yeah, you guys don't get to see.

(01:50:05):
So be thankful because there's some down time.
Sometimes I've got the bladder the size of a peanut.
But yeah, man, well, I really appreciate it.
I don't want to take up any moreof your time.
No, likewise, I just wanted to get a little more info about you
because, you know, I just, yeah,just met you right now at this
moment. I'm the one asking the questions
all the time. Yeah, no, I had to throw a
little. Somebody else's podcast

(01:50:27):
eventually. Yeah, yeah, it's good about
Jacob. You're going to do Jacobs.
Jacob. Circle of drift meets Jacob.
Come on, yesterday I I did a full podcast with him as well.
Perfect. He drove down on his way to
Florida before he moved out there and did 1.
So sick. Yeah, man.
Good stuff. Well, I appreciate you having me
on here. Absolutely.
Did you want to shout any sponsors out or?

(01:50:48):
Anything. Shout out to OMPBC Racing Motegi
wheels. They've been such a blessing for
us. They always have our back,
they're always there. I just can't stress enough,
Motegi's are the best FDF's beengreat working with Josiah,
making the changes on the angle kit because no one really makes
an angle kit that's as good as what is on my car right now.

(01:51:09):
So. And willing to make the
revisions as fast as he does. Yeah, seriously awesome dude
right there. Grip Royal, see that you're on
those as well. Super awesome dudes over there.
Scott, shout out to you. And you know, everybody else
that's been a part of the program.
Prismatic Powder supports us. They're really great company to
work with. So if you have any powder
coating needs, by all means. Largest selection of powders.

(01:51:32):
I can't even name, you know, 10 of the Blues because there's
like 10,000 Blues. Oh my, my main client that does
the synergy race development. I don't know if you've never
heard of them, Mustang parts andstuff.
Yeah, they use them too. Yeah, they got a whole wall full
of colors and they're like, bro,this isn't even half of it.
Yeah. Massive shout out to Jackson
Performance. They've been a huge support.

(01:51:52):
I mean, Jackson crews here for Jeff Jones, but he's been a
homie helping me with the car and setup and just all the
advice that I need because he has so much experience in the
pits here. I'm sure without looking at a
list, I'm forgetting something being on the spot, but I mean
taxi garage, my team, I'm blessed to have my company
support me with my other business partners and believe
in, you know, me as a driver to come out here.

(01:52:14):
So that's been awesome. Shout out to Casey, my media
guy. He just does whatever it takes.
He doesn't just do the media. He does pit crew.
He helps me with the cars. He does everything.
You name it, I'm. Very versatile.
Yeah, he's honestly the GOAT. There's no one like him.
Casey. We love you, bro.
Never or leave us at whatever I got to do, stay with us.

(01:52:36):
Just talk to me first, we'll work it out.
Exactly. Whatever it takes.
That's awesome, man. Yeah.
I mean, just a myriad of awesomesponsors we're blessed to be a
part of and I just couldn't thank them enough so.
I love it, dude. I want to hope.
Wish you the best of luck, especially in the next coming
round and the rest of the season.
Damn. All right.
And thank you again for taking the.

(01:52:57):
Time likewise. Thank you bro.
Absolutely. Trust no bitch, can't catch no
feelings. I've been taking long flights
from the baby. I just want 444 then I leave.
I'm a young pop star called a boy.
Justin Bieber got a little money.
If you want a teacher whole lifea movie, you can watch it in
theater. Trust no bitch, can't catch, no

(01:53:18):
feelings.

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