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I stay doing Grassroots because I want to interact with people
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if they can come to an event andleave and go, you know what like
that. That guy was fun to be around.
I'm gonna build on, Welcome Backto the circle of drift podcast
presented by Sam HQ, where we interview some of the most
interesting personalities withinthe industry.
My name is Dawson and today we are back at Grid live to the
final part. I've been beating the absolute
crap out of this element motor, I mean non-stop limiter and is
(00:24):
taking every single bit of it. The cars never fast enough, it's
never lighting up the social media world is a whole nother
level competition and then actual competition on track, you
know, oh, now we actually get the like, show up on track and
drive and they, competition's crazy, and of course, so much
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And without further Ado, let's get into the episode.
(00:54):
Back on. He's here.
Absolutely be here. Good to see the car back.
Yeah. Cars back to now.
Yeah. Just twice the stress.
Explain it. How does it add twice distress
having two cars? It was kind of undecided Walter
(01:16):
told us they wanted a second carfor 25 and we all know I had
some car trouble and 24 but we resolved that and that's all
thanks to late model engines andswitching our Electronics over
to link and the support from those guys I mean we've had No
issues. Yeah, tires and fuel.
That's all the car wants. So Walter told us they wanted a
(01:37):
second car, but they weren't quite sure yet.
So we kind of just juggled the idea pretty much all the way
until December. Jesus.
Yeah. So then it was once they
approved it. We were good bringing Jackson
and if we didn't second car, it was going to be Jackson.
And so why him real quick? I mean he's about to come on.
(01:58):
Yeah. Well he's my neighbor.
He's the one who got me back in the drifting.
He's good driver. And you want, if you have
somebody in your truck, your house your shop, you want
something you can trust. Absolutely.
So it was just you know I knew that if I was ever gonna do it,
we were already toting his ass around, bringing it in places,
like just give him a key. Yeah, so we ain't even store it,
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get a shell that we were stored in my garage.
So like I said, though, once they approved it and they were
like, okay, we're doing it. We had to get our other partners
on board too. Yeah, so getting konik, you
know, Kona came on Supply. The wheels for the car.
We got Kenda? Yeah, jumped on.
For both cars, link. Hardtop.
Motorsports wired, both the cars, you know, that's because
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that's their he did it at his house or at his shop and in
Oregon. So um Elena.
So we got two late model enginesnight in my car, one in his Who
else? I mean, I'm gonna forget
somebody. Of course, Tilton came on board.
So both cars, utilize the same clutch package.
Yeah. Although the cars are a little
(03:03):
different. We're able to like, save money
by having basically one spare that we share.
Same with SLO R. Yeah, one spare SLR.
Get to split between both cars. You know, the budget is only
gonna allow so much. Yeah.
So you know, we start small, youknow, this stuff first year, if
it goes, well, that next year, we'll we'll ramp it up.
(03:23):
Get another kit and then start allocating Bears packages to
each car. Yeah.
But with that, the whole thing like really coming together at
the end of December, we had three months to build a car And
it's just Jackson. And I know we don't have anybody
at home like a crew guy. It's just me and Jackson and
like, your car still needed somestuff at this.
(03:44):
Yeah, we did the new motor from Melanie and all those.
It's not less than last year. We switched to a motorbike Okay,
engine mounts and what's gonna motor plate?
It's got the dry sump. So, it went off to Andy sea
housing and Saint, Louis got allthe Fab work.
So, it got a, an enclosure for the dry sump tank.
Yeah, yeah. And I had to make new oil lines.
(04:05):
We also did a bigger radiator this year, and, A couple other
small things, but it was a couple weeks in St.
Louis, we we drove out there with all of our parts
Reassembled, the car and St. Louis.
The local organization there. Yeah.
In St. Louis invited us out.
Let us come test. Oh, that's cool.
(04:28):
Yeah. So we tested the car, nobody
panels. And that went really good.
XO card is fuck. Yeah.
And then we came home Jackson does a little bit of fiberglass
on the side. So he fixed my kid up from last
year Hayden from her. You got one of those guys.
Yeah that's fun to have Hayden from Marky Mark.
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Came out from. Charlotte wrapped the cars.
He designed both liveries. I wanted to stay with kind of
the blue and black because that's your dude.
I will say that blue that you did this year hits so much
better. It's stands out like crazy.
It was a little bit overcast. It was like dark blue.
Yeah, it was Was so the blues better for sure.
(05:09):
And if you remember like back tothe S14 that car was always blue
and black and I'm just trying tokeep it going as long as I can.
Yeah I feel it dude looks good. The white and black on Jackson's
and we kind of look at both cars.
Like Jackson's cars a little brother to my car you know what
I mean? Yeah it's a lot of the stuff
that we ran on my car last year and then just transitioned it
(05:31):
over to Jackson's. It's still wet something but
it's you know built by a companythat We believe and they stand
behind us. Yeah, that engine has been
Flawless for Jackson. That's absolutely well.
They seem to be ripping out here.
So, how do you like is as far asDiscord life goes in South
Carolina, this track how the cars perform on it.
I will say that where there's a car track and a big track.
(05:55):
And this could be more of a driver's skill issue.
But the car is set up, really good for the car track.
Yeah, and it's too much for the big track.
Like I was on the phone with reader last night.
I was just telling him, I was like, dude, the cars.
That driving right on the big track and he was like, give your
(06:16):
boss front sway bars too tight. And really yes, it's too stiff.
So he was like if you you know soft in the front bar it's gonna
drive better on the big track but it drives really good on the
car. Track, you don't want to suck, I
get that. Other thing is just tired.
The big track you get, maybe I'dlap and a half on a set of
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tires. Yeah, which is ideally, not even
really a full lap, you can't runthe full course and what that
does good life for me is all about ride alongs.
Yeah, I want to get people an experience that they maybe never
had before it wouldn't have outside of this environment.
So I want to do a lap. I want to swap somebody out.
Want to get a new person in the car.
Yeah, and I want to do that. You can't do that on the big
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track. So I'm sacrificing My head.
I'm sacrificing my time to driveon the big track and staying
over on the car tracks, like, gives me any ride along as
possible. Yeah.
And, you know, obviously if likeso for context, it just to be
able to pull back out of grid onthe big track is a pain in the
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ass and then getting someone to your car out there and even more
of a pain in the ass. Yeah.
And you know how a lot of time like 20 minutes sessions, and it
takes a few minutes to get around the track each time.
Uh so for me with this, this event specifically the car track
caters more to the fans. Yeah, if you've ever been here,
(07:43):
you know this there's a fence line that you can stand on and
be really close to the track andsee everything.
Whereas the big track, you're really only able to see a couple
corners. Yeah.
And it's all about the fans. And the fun Corners are out in
the back, that's all out and stuff is to stick.
Yeah. So for me, it's all about the
fans and trying to do stuff withthem and engage with them and
(08:07):
the car track allows that we have this.
You've been over there, the kindof a hang out area.
Right. Yeah.
And so because of Tyre wear and Ride Along that's where we're
going to be. I think that that's probably the
best option. This is we're going to drive
other big tracks this year, right?
We're going to gingerman. Yeah last year.
(08:28):
Absolutely. So really looking forward to
gingerman this is Jackson's first grid life.
Is it really? Oh wow.
That's a whole experience in itself and I would say that this
is the most tame of all right? Like this is oh yeah I've been
saying that all day. This is a very laid-back
environment. There's not a lot of cars.
There's plenty of parking True. You know, our pit area is like
(08:51):
an acre. Oh, I know.
Two trucks parked over the trailer Cars.
Plenty of room. Yeah.
So, but yeah, it's been great. Happy to see you guys here and
absolutely all of them. Do what you're gonna be at all
of them? Yeah, I should be at all of them
this year so that's exciting. Excited to see that and venture
out a little bit more but as faras your whole Venture this year
(09:13):
what what events do you plan on doing?
Is it just grid lights or is it?Yeah well a lot of the stuff
we're doing this year is contentwith Walther.
Oh we're gonna do a drift Mansion kind of a retreat.
Yeah, I remember me saying something about like the staff
from Walter come out. Travis reader will be there,
Jackson will be there. I'll be there, possibly a couple
(09:35):
other guests and we're just gonna film great content.
Making some commercials for Waltham.
Saw that one we just did. Yeah, for the California.
And then Grid life gingerman wrote America.
Possibly like some nappy boy events.
Those are always fun. Absolutely I gotta make it out
to one. They do a great job.
(09:55):
It's just good people like yeah.It's, you know, it's tough to
make a schedule because stuff pops up, you know, we talked
about the drift HQ 4th of July event out here, I saw Savio
today and he came up, gave me a big hug and was like, Hey, You
Gotta come out? That's cool.
So yeah, maybe that I don't know.
Yeah, follow me on the same spotman and keep up with my
(10:18):
schedule. Yeah, can you do like, you know,
you think you have a schedule and then something better pops
up. Yeah, something that's just been
telling everyone on basement most of my schedule off grid
life so you can almost guaranteethat.
Yeah. And then you just kind of manage
her out that. Yeah.
And there's so many events like I prefer honestly going to
smaller events. Like I do this, like, I stayed
(10:41):
doing Grassroots shit because I want to interact with people.
I want to have the time to talk to people, to let them ask a
million questions, you know. Like that's cool and I'm trying
to, I want people if they can come to an event and leave and
go, you know what like that. That guy was fun to be around.
I'm gonna build a car. Yeah.
I'm gonna go buy Walter or whatever you know, like that's
(11:02):
the whole goal. So, a lot of times you smaller
even at any level do you believe?
Still believe that. Well, I don't like FD or
something. I just think it's smaller
events. It's easier to spend time with
fans, whatever, like FD, if I was gonna do FD, I'm gonna win.
I'm not talking socialize. But you kind of have to though.
I'm trying to win. Yeah, that's why I'm there.
And even gridlife the sessions are so scarce.
(11:27):
You know, you're pretty locked in to make sure that you're
getting out on track and and getting your laps in here.
It's a little bit different because the car track, but
right, for the most part, the smaller events are easier to
mingle and spend time with, you know, it's Spectators and fit
old fans and new fans whatever. Yeah, and just have
conversations and drive. Cool.
(11:47):
I'm glad to see you out and gladthe cars are running great.
Fuck. That's all I'm gonna say.
I want to jinx young. Anything know they've been
great. I mean so it's the late model
engines. Yeah.
Like that's if it wasn't for lme.
Like I was either gonna get awayfrom llc's or go to lme.
There was no in between there was no If lme didn't want to do
(12:10):
anything, I was gonna switch platforms.
Yeah. But it's like, you know, to
anyone that is ignorant to thoseplatforms.
Well, most people are gonna knowabout LS, but what what are the,
what is the difference? Why is it more well like
valuable or better? It's tough with ls is because
and na power naturally. Aspirated Motors to get big
Power. Yeah, really expensive.
(12:30):
True if you want 600 650 and a horsepower with no add or no
nitrous it's gonna cost you 40 or 50 Grand.
Yeah. And what that right there deters
people from going out last one they can go buy a junkyard Jay-Z
slap, a turbo on it. Make 800, you know, but I am
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straight and I love Jay Z's. I had.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I know, and I had just had such good luck with LSS when I
had the S14 when I got into the 46.
I was like, well, oh that's it. I know the ls pretty well. and
we have some bad luck last year,and after doing my research and
(13:13):
really take the time to sit downand look at these shops that are
cranking these motors out and talk to me.
Was it like yeah. Connor Sullivan's, a perfect
example. He uses them.
That's true. But I also did my own research
outside of him and his team, youknow, telling me that they're
good and I reached out to them and And now we're Partners.
(13:35):
That's awesome. It's one of those things where
you like you kind of manifested it.
Yeah. Like I had already committed to
them before they even knew who the fuck I was.
You're mine bitch. You know what I mean.
Yeah, committed to it. Yeah.
Where did you meet them again? Ah, really met him at PRI?
in person, cold call to them, Steven He got me kind of started
(13:57):
with them. We the conversation.
Oh and I wasn't gonna go to PRI really like you should come and
look just meet everybody and I think that had, I not gone this
year. It wouldn't have happened.
Yeah. So he.
Alright, this year was a huge success for our program.
You know, we're sometimes you go.
You just there to see your friends?
(14:18):
Yeah, he's not a little bit, you're not there to get, you
know, everybody I guess everybody's want, goes there to
try to get money or deals or whatever.
But this time, it was just to meet a certain group of
individuals. Yeah.
And it worked out I mean they took I went down there for two
weeks. Spent some time with everybody
got to know, everybody filmed a bunch of product videos for him.
(14:38):
Say yeah, awesome content and since the partnership of
started, the customer service has been fantastic.
The engines been fantastic. Yeah, you know, I can call the
old, I call the owner cell phoneBrian and I'm like, hey man.
Yeah, that's always gonna have abetter relationship.
He don't give a shit. He answers, like that is
(14:59):
awesome. I'm so grateful, dude, I'm gonna
be shut the phone off at 5:00, you know, nine to five for me,
mother phones are and, and they're not talking until Monday
morning, you know, so good, dude.
It's great. Really good to hear.
Awesome. Oh hell yeah you got anything
else you want to mention for theseason know?
(15:21):
I'm just busy doing a lot of stuff with Walter.
I mean it's super cool to see How involved Walther is getting
like? They got their feet wet last
year and now they have two cars.Now, they have two cars.
They're investing in and contentwith the cars outside of the
race track, you know? Yeah.
And and really, I guess I shouldreally be thinking the people in
(15:43):
the Firearms industry that showed us love and kind of
welcoming pretty accepting you know.
Like I was crazy but love me this motor sports thing into
their their world you know and I'm obviously shooter a huge
advocate for guns and training and so I think I'm the right
fit. I hope to do it for many more
(16:04):
years. Well from my angle.
It looks like you're doing a great job at it because I don't
see anyone else. Bridging.
The Gap from now Jake fire arms drinking PS asked me today
really get sick. I was like we're enemies.
Oh, you're screwed motherfuker. Do you think I could take jtp?
(16:26):
I'm not getting in between the gangster.
Yeah he is a straight up Gangster and my favorite driver.
But I will fight jtp. See it all next episode.
Yeah. Click.
Now get him on the podcast and tell him.
I was talking. Shit, I will.
Yeah, tag him. He's the best.
If I don't. If I didn't get him on already
(16:47):
tagged him you should get them all.
I'll try to. Yeah, he's the best and this is
all out of love, just to be clear.
We are friends and this is a joke, 100, here we are.
You know a Pro driver that we all look up to huge gun.
Guys, love training, you know. And you know, wants to help, you
(17:10):
know, we want to see, we want toencourage training.
If you own a gun, you should train with it.
Absolutely. We're not out here to promote
anything but safety training andgood products, you know, and I
think don't be an idiot. Yeah.
And I think it takes good individuals promoting the right
way to do things, you know, like, A guy's doing a takeover
(17:31):
versus a guy going to a drift event, right?
There's yes, there's two cars sliding right?
There's a car. Just like a bad Advocate and the
gun world. Yeah, same thing, right?
So just takes the right people. Jpp would be a good one.
I would agree. Cool.
Dude. It will start to happen.
Oh, I'm sure they'll trick. Yeah.
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If one does it? Others will follow.
Yeah, so glad Walter was the first one me too.
There you go. Hell yeah, dude.
We'll go have fun out there and appreciate you again for coming.
Well I'm sure we'll do a full episode again, whatever you
want. I'm in
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All right, we got Jackson. He is there.
So, tell me a little bit about yourself in case anyone out
there doesn't know part of all three team now.
So part of the Walter team. Big, thanks to Caleb Walter one
of two cars. So and then just background me.
I've been drifting for like two years now.
Yeah, it's my first year, I drifted like 33 events.
So I got a ton of seat time, like, 4,000 plus lapse.
(19:11):
Your first year is 303. I want everywhere.
Like, every like Like two to three times a month, just go and
drifting as much. Like, I could, just trying to
learn as yeah, as much as possible.
You know, how far were you traveling?
They're not. I went there from South
Carolina, all the way up to us are and like, what's going on?
Oh everywhere. Oh, that's a hike.
Yeah. Okay.
(19:31):
Did a couple comps? Got out on top of a bunch?
Yeah, that was very specific. Yeah.
Every couple like top eight knocked but it is what it is.
Absolutely, dude, I remember youback in the.
Is it the technically the same E46?
So yeah. Is it a different chassis?
(19:53):
Same exact car. Oh man, you've been driving this
shit out of that car. Yeah.
And it for a stock power car I made on the dynamic 194 so not
not really yeah, couldn't even break too.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And then the same motor actuallytook that motor out the same
engine, trans drive shaft all the way through.
So took it out put in my daily sedan, I was driving at the
time, like two college and then did a comp at Atlanta and one
(20:15):
more time called Richards, whichis pretty cool.
No shit. Yeah, so I got to go get up
against like, a pro guy. Okay, so I know you're probably
a little humble, but that is actually extremely impressive.
What car was he in? He was in there for us his
actual dude. Okay.
So I literally asked TJ hunt this earlier.
What is What is your best adviceon keeping up with a fast car?
(20:37):
When you are in a slow car? So let's angle.
It was also like a tread wear like radio class.
Like we couldn't go anywhere like a 300 so okay that helps.
Yeah and then there's also tire wall.
I think too many five I was on 245 so not a huge difference but
yeah. Um but yeah man.
Just just trying to like take a little bit of angle out.
(20:59):
Just trying to Be as close as you possibly can.
I mean there's no other way, just Push as hard as you can.
Are you using transitions as theway to keep up, though, as you
transitions. Like, if he's not like, say,
he's not straighten out for as much and like, shooting off, I'm
trying to like straighten out and like almost like Josh
straight for half a second longer to gain that extra box.
(21:20):
Maybe. Yeah, this car would have that
gained anyway, you know. Okay.
So I I would assume you did Sam then, did you ever drive?
That's crazy because that is a very like Specific habit, that
Sim Drifters. Yeah.
And if that one, I would love tohave one but it's like I was
(21:40):
better invest that time and I know this is like contradictory
but I'd rather invest the time just driving.
Yeah, partying with the boys, you know, well the fact that
it's only been two years of driving and you've the
progression that you've had. It's probably from being only
damn cops. Like just force yourself being
calm. I'm trying, most people don't do
that. Yeah, and my leads lack, I won't
lie like Caleb's leads me and his leads are great.
(22:02):
He's an angle, right, he's put the car.
I like that guy, whatever. But in the chase, not just
that's where I've always focused.
Just like, yeah, he has aggressive as you possibly can
be. Oh yeah.
So okay, then, why did you want to take the step to go to a
more? Pro level build, I guess, most
people would say I was tired of not being able to hang with the
(22:26):
really fast dudes, especially A stock power car.
Can't really. I mean, it's like, power, 846
can't be out here doing this. You know, it's just, it's not
gonna make the last, I mean, it could, it had the mind, you
can't extend out the transitionsthat right?
Right. Well, do you think because I
asked this to TJ earlier too, doyou think it is in an important
(22:49):
or it was good that you started in a less of a car?
And that's something that wasn'tas very well set up like a super
overpowered car like, way way out of the league you could say
and it's just they have no idea how to drive.
I see people out here today thatI'm not trying to shut anybody
out, but like, no. Yeah, he's just like, they don't
know the car. Like, they don't understand like
the basics behind just drifting.If they had like a lower power
(23:10):
car, it's much easier to learn that way.
You're not just blow the tires off and just spinning all the
time like it, you had to learn how to truly drop the car.
Yeah. Well how has it been out here
since this is this is the first event really like beating on the
car, right? Yeah, no shit.
All right. So how is that going on your
(23:31):
perspective? Then do I love it?
The like I've been beating the absolute crap out of this
element motor band and it I meannon-stop limiter and it's taking
every single bit of it. No issues, no hiccups, no,
nothing. Like I mean, absolutely.
How did you choose that motor because of Caleb or was it like
something you were actually looking at beforehand as well?
(23:51):
I was with Caleb last year and Isaw him go through five.
Yeah, I'm not to come out but like in the winter he was like,
I'm gonna go to lme. We're gonna talk about this,
we're gonna like truly try to figure out an LS engine package
or else we're gonna swap to someof the platform.
Be a 2J, whatever. I wanted to go in 50.
We'll talk about that. Oh, but oh yeah, big BMW guy.
(24:13):
But he talked to LMI and he was like, I think this is the, this
is the way here. And then, I was like, all right,
I was like, whatever you say, like, we'll give it a shot, and
it's been great. That's killer dude.
Well, now you gotta explain the M50 part. because I'm curious
now, so Yeah, bone stock in 5. 4made. 1944 already said that,
(24:36):
but just so many laughs, only thing I ever changed was the
oil. I lost the power.
Steering. Pump one time.
And then an alternator. Other than that, I never did a
single thing. Never took off the oil.
Pan valve cover never came off and now I sold that car tire.
Barry. He's still, ripping it.
Oh, yeah. And that is good.
Now, put in my sedan, everythingnever had a single issue with
it, so but you would have, you would have had to at least boost
(24:59):
it or something. Yeah.
And that's, that's all gonna getto like, to truly, like, make
the competitive power you need to.
I've seen a lot of people have more issues with.
Yeah. So that's just like stuck in 54
is. But if you go like an M50, I've
seen people have pretty good luck with them.
Like, you'll love a cell. Yeah, I don't know exactly how
to say his last name, so forgiveme if I butcher names all the
time, so that's fine. But no.
(25:20):
Like I've seen a, you've probably met Andy.
May they do that travels? In his RV was family.
Yeah, he's so bad for him. Sometimes he goes through the
worst of luck with those Motors.Yeah, I assume it's the same
thing for whatever, but same, same, whatever in my they're all
Legos. Anyways but I guess why wouldn't
(25:40):
would you ever build another carto do that?
Same route. Because, like, so I feel like
you're eventually gonna be like,I got A scratch.
It my daily but I haven't M50 inmy garage.
I have a full head, like, all kinds of stuff.
Okay. For it.
So ideally I'd like it's already.
I would like to go down that route at some point.
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Jesus, so there's gonna be a third Walther car.
No, no, I want to say that. Well, how other than the car,
how did you come into the picture with Walter and that
whole ordeal? Like, how is that just you man?
Kelly be my neighbor again man. I know he mentioned the same
thing right before me, but just going around.
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I remember. So I was driving my actually 406
with like wrap Liberty, all thatcrap on it and he put up his
slimy on the street. We're just cruising and he was
like, yo, that drift car. I was like, yeah, he was like,
wait that whole fast wheel too and I was like, yeah, he's like
pull over man. So I gotta talk to you.
Yeah. So he pulled over started
chatting and it's just evolved from there.
It's crazy. How simple of a friendship can
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start now. And now my best friend Bill One
race cars and shit. The best friends, man.
It's been great. That's crazy.
Well, as far as representing Walter how other than the car
are you guys doing that? From your end though?
I know, he's like big cameraman.Yeah.
Yeah. Company very well.
I will say that I just do what Ican, I'm not the best shooter.
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Yeah, I just want to drive aggressive.
I mean, I'm actually like reallytrying to learn the shooting
side of things but it's something that lack In Caleb's,
a good coach. And we've been, we've been
shooting some yeah identification.
You've never been fully like into Firearms or anything.
I mean, I grew up shooting some but nothing.
To the extent of like truly training.
That that factory, you know, like a lot of time training
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that, well, that honestly, that'd be insane content.
Yeah. Just to be able to train someone
on camera that's just like off the street, like knows a little
bit. Nothing crazy.
Yeah. Taking that and just run it with
it. And seeing what they can do
within like maybe like give likea two week class or something
and just see where they progressfrom them to their.
Yeah, that's cool dude. Well, do you I guess?
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Do you ever plan on taking this whole program?
I guess both of y'all into more competition.
Real competition and going FD myself.
I love to. Okay, that's where my heart
lies. Why do you chose that route
versus this stuff? I'm a very competitive person.
Yeah. It's just like, I just want that
competition side. Like this is a blast, don't get
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me wrong. But there's nothing more than
being like trying to knock out your buddy.
And top 32 top, 16, whatever. Just going for the win, man.
Just play sports growing up. No really okay?
So Wow, really. Yeah, that's cool but that's
like as much as I did. Yeah, I get it.
That's I see. It is a common thing like if you
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did play sports growing up you're more than likely to not
be as competitive once you get into drifting because that's how
I am I played baseball since like I was four.
Yeah. So until my senior year of high
school and now I couldn't care less about competition dude.
But I don't know what makes you even want to do it?
It's just like yeah. Give it my best shot.
That's what like me like, growing up.
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I was just always like, I want to just compete in drifting ever
since I got my first car. I was like, I want to do this,
so, oh yeah, if it happens, it happens.
But I would like for it. So next year, he's going to
Pro-Am God, what is going to Pro-Am?
We'll see. And they don't, and they don't
care as much about that but yeah, I'm just like that.
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Yeah. Give you a couple bucks to go
towards it'd be helpful. Well what's your favorite
firearm from Arthur? Let me get that.
I have a PDP. That.
Still frame. Awesome.
Pretty cool. Oh yeah.
Well you got anything else. You want to share for this
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coming season? Anything special?
Oh, drift mansion. That's pretty.
Yeah. but that's I don't know the whole schedule, so I just
kind of go with the flow. Let kale decide and I'm just
here, just tell me where to point the car.
Yeah, I just want to drive, man.That's awesome man.
Well, I'm really stoked for you.I love to see the progression.
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You're a hell of a driver now. Thank you.
I'm driving. I hope you wanna be a legit car.
Good, dude. Good.
We'll go. Show him, how good of a car.
It is appreciate it, man. Thanks for making time.
Well, is day three actually and we got Alex back on the podcast,
so, that's a friendly face. Yeah.
How are we doing this weekend, man?
No car, no, no, no, no, no. I can't hear for a buddy of
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mine's. That's your party is a group of
five of us. So, hold the bachelor party.
Yeah, crazy. We never been to a good life.
I've always wanted to go to a great life and I was like this
what a great way to have. What's your, okay?
So what is your What was your expectation before coming to
Grid live versus how it went? Like what did you think?
So you know, good life. We have all these events now
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that exists, right? Thank you very much, we have.
Thanks Jamie. We.
Well, we have all these different events.
We have clutch kickers. We have good lives.
We have hyper fests. We have just all these different
ways to be involved in cars now and car events, right?
You know, some of them are obviously heavily emphasized
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with, you know, content creatorslike YouTubers or influencers
and you know, summer, you know, FD drivers and things.
So yeah, it's just really cool to come out here and it's see
all the different styles of driving and I don't know.
I'm just cool. It definitely was.
I'm so glad that I came, I was surprised about maybe like the,
like the size of it. I thought maybe it would be a
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little bit bigger. Yeah.
And I think came the wrong one. Well, it's like the most mellow
grid life ever, which I love. That's a great start to the
season. You get, you get to come out,
get your feet wet and all that stuff and then if you like it.
You like all right now I gotta try the real thing.
Yeah, Midwest Fest. I mean, I definitely want to
participate in some good life and I'm glad like if there was
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one I got to, like, see what it was like as like a more of a
spectator and not be driving andparticipating a good one to do
that. So true.
Yeah. Have more freedom to do it.
Would you think of like the music and stuff that atmosphere
being added to it? Yeah, yeah.
The, I mean, it reminds me a lotof other events, like a hyper
Fest where they had the DJs and stuff at night and whatnot.
So I thought it was cool. Last night, I did an emo emo
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night and, you know, we all listen to pick You blue balled
the fuck out of us, who I thought that was actual like, it
was gonna be straight up just Emo music.
Oh, just, you know, hits from the 90s or the two early 2000s,
but it was like, Nicks, which isfine.
I'm just not ATM person so like it just didn't hit right with
me. Yeah.
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I wish it was a little bit more emo.
Then they, you know, but you know, they get, you know,
they're just trying to do what they can know the music growing.
That's just me being picky. It was actually great.
It was a good time and people were having fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah man. Well as far as the track and
stuff, I know you haven't you weren't driving it or anything
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but what is your impression of the track versus all the ones
that you've driven? I'm sure you've done other road
course similar. Yeah, yeah, so they have the two
drift course here. They have the little car track.
I mean, which you can wheel anything.
If its 100 horsepower, 500 horsepower, you just send it.
Dude is getting beat to shit. You see turn one?
Yeah. So, and then the the road
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course, I mean, you gonna need ahigh horsepower car.
You got some full sense. Stuff, you know, full commitment
and you need the power to be able to power through it.
Yeah, I think Nate chin was hit and what was it 127 was his Peak
injury? Yeah, he was looking really good
and he was like, you know, I kind of like digged his Vibe
because he's like, you know, it's not competition.
She's like, I'm gonna send some back, he's there.
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Like I was listening as it's like going down the street.
He wasn't like letting up at theend.
He And if you're slowing in front of him at all, he will not
hesitate to pass you. Yeah.
It's so funny. But hell yeah, man.
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying gridlife.
It's really cool. Yeah, definitely got to come
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out. Are you do you plan on coming
anymore? Yeah, I definitely not.
Now I've gotten the vibe. I'm like, okay.
Now, I want to like, come to start wanna drive, you know, at
least one or two or whatever. So, talk to some of the other
drivers getting their advice about which ones to go to.
And would you bring the pro cardor one of these I would assume
right. Yeah, I mean like if honestly,
if it was this one I don't know that.
I would have maybe it maybe thiswould be more appropriate for
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the Z just so I could do more laps here on the cars and stuff.
Taking people for a long trip like the perfect event to bring
both right that way because liketrailer, Richard is out here in
his his BMW on the car track butas soon as he goes on the on the
road course she's bringing the 86 South.
Yeah. That's my truck problems too.
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My truck ain't big enough. I got three drift cars but
they're going to bring on what astipulation that is, Oh my God.
First world problems right? Which one you think you'll come
to next? I know everybody keeps talking
about the one in I guess. Wisconsin or Michigan?
Midwest Fest. Yeah.
That once I've heard a lot of good stuff is an East Coast
driver myself. I've heard a lot about Lime
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Rock. Yeah, whatever.
So yeah, those are the two they're definitely in my sights.
I would love to maybe squeeze inAtlanta, but I don't know if I
have the right ingredients to pull that off in time.
I mean, yeah, I really done a whole lot of my car or in the
offseason this year. So it'd be a lot to like, try to
prepare, get ready real quick right and just a few days after
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that is hyperfest. So it's like maze, the Stacked
month. Like everybody dude.
See that's the I want to go to hyperfest so bad but it always
conflicts with somewhere. I have to be.
So like I always get screwed every single time.
Yeah. But eventually I'll make it to a
hyperfest and since it's always in May it always that's where
it's got the nickname of like wiper Fest, right?
Always has a like horrifically. One day is raining, like just
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hurricane destroys Everything and we all Park in the grass.
So our cars just like sink underground.
We gotta like dig them out, right?
Yeah. One year, I think it was over
here. One year was in like September
October. So great.
Yeah I mean again please. Yeah.
Oh yeah well you mentioned the car was still kind of in pieces
so what all needs to be done to get it freshened up for the
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season. Oh man last year was like super
rough for mechanically? Like one thing I guess I never
like realized was in previous years.
My car is always been so reliable, right?
And I like, I've always watched my friends like blowing up
Motors doing this. I'm like, yeah, I don't have
those problems. And then yeah 20 24 was my year
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is the engine platform and stuffin it.
Yeah it's a super tragic LS on snow Coe.
Okay yeah so I've had that engine in there for eight years.
Jesus Christ. I know eight years and this year
I said running on it this year. It said bye.
What power was it running? Oh yeah, like I said, we had
some Mechanicals this year. So there some misconstrued
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numbers but we're thinking it right now.
It's about 700, okay? So this still, like a
conservative number for LS like yeah.
I mean, I don't like saying thatit lasted that long.
Yeah, no. It's it's I'm very blessed for
sure but this year we tried to be a little bit more competitive
by increasing that horse power. And I think the increase in
boost and stuff made it made themotor start to Yeah.
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So what are you doing to compensate for that this year?
Like you putting new internals in it or well specific
internals? Honestly that I don't know if
you know this but the internal is on it we're always Factory.
So it's factory really Factory rots had a little bit of head
work done as far as like Springsabout training stuff, but it was
a very mild like build had a Cool Cam in it, you know, make
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some power and sound, cool, but Factory, Pistons Factory, all
the bottom of it was Factory. Why didn't you ever do any
internal stuff, getting a deck or bored out eight years ago?
And I made it and have to do allthat and like, it just always
worked. So, solid Point.
Yeah, I need to be faster that he will go from pumpkin.
Like, you know, there's like stages strategy years where it
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just kept raising, and power andwas fine.
So, do you think it's even possible to stay competitive
with, you know, just an NA LS with a supercharger like that
exact setup. Do you think it's even possible
to be as competitive as you needto?
Be informal address set up now. Yeah, like in today's, I mean it
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The current Trend in Prospect isif you're not in that, you know.
700 horsepower, give or take 100horsepower, range and you're not
you're gonna fall but behind youknow, if you have a 500
horsepower, car you going against these guys with 700 800,
even some of them have 1,000 like they're even like you know
ProBuild so you are gonna you are gonna fall behind.
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I mean if you can drive at 10 out of 10 every time and maybe a
higher horsepower car only drives 8 out of 10, you might be
able but you know, competitions just increasing, you know,
that's fair. And it's crazy to see what's
coming of it especially well I know I say it all the time but
the same drivers and stuff too, just add right on top of it.
The skill level. On top of the horsepower level
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is just making it the barrier toentry.
Through the roof like it's so fucking hard saying, right?
Yeah. So The cars, never fast enough.
It's never like, right, like Thethese kids are coming in are
like, I'm like an old man in FD now.
Yeah. Right.
Like they're just getting younger.
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Like the social media world is awhole nother level of
competition, which is ridiculousbetween all the different
platforms and stuff and then theactual competition on track, you
know, oh now we actually get to like show up on track and drive
and they're competition's crazy.So yeah, so much to the job.
That's not just driving. Yeah, that people just don't
really see like they see it but they don't comprehend that,
that's part of the job. Yeah, so all the meet and greets
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and all the, all the older extracurriculars that are happening
at the event. It's all part of it.
Keeping up face when I was chasing after you, when I was
like, yeah, I want to do this and stuff and I was tired to
become an FD driver, like, it used to be achievable to be a
normal person and Go into FD, right?
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But now it is definitely coming to a budget thing and I I'm
always said it wasn't but it's it is changing like you know,
you really need like a lot of money now.
Where you didn't before in what ways though, exactly.
Because like, obviously media standpoint that's a given
nowadays. But like, what are the things
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that people don't normally mention that has to do with that
budget? Like some of these younger
drivers? I mean, I don't I don't know
that they've ever worked, you know, a career or like a real
like job. So young that like you know
their Fearless right. They have all this seek time on
simulator and you know whatever seat time they have before FD
and how they appropriately got their license and stuff.
But there's no Financial restraints, you know?
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Like you know, when I first started in FD, like we all like
Diddy and also worked like really hard to say about money
to buy these tires. Right?
We didn't have to worry about having tires being available to
us, like, right. Like it's just different like
and like you said and then as the media side, so all the media
representation that you need in order to have a professional
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appearance in the in a official Motorsport like that.
Yeah, I mean a lot of it's just There's a lot of financing that
you need. Now that you didn't before.
Yeah. Do you think it's necessary,
though? Do you think like drifting needs
all of that? Because in my eyes, I see that.
FD needs to start becoming on the same level as F1 as far as
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marketing standpoint goes and like just the overall run event.
We're branding it as a formula brand.
Yeah. So, but it does like it
obviously does not match. So like are those particular
aspects of it that make it a little bit harder needed?
Because it creates more of a fomo factor?
Or is it something that hinders the sport?
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So Formula Drift wants to get bigger in my opinion.
They need these young athletes to come in.
I mean, you could compare to anyother athletic sport on the
planet. Like the, the athletes in any
sport are just getting younger, right?
We are conditioning children too.
Start picking up a skateboard atAge 2 now.
Right? Like, I'm just saying, You know,
so you're going to not even braining yet like come on and
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you're going to need that Finance.
You're gonna need to unlimited financial support, whether you
have sponsors or not because youare going to need to not be.
You're gonna you can't have any restrictions right, right?
We can't be restricted by age. Can't be sure to buy experience.
Can't make restricted by finances or social media, just
anything like you. If you want the sport to grow to
be the biggest it can be. It's going to need that level
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of. In order for it to grow that
way. Absolutely, I would totally
agree. Well, other than that, the
Newfound changes that are happening in FD.
What is your overall perspectiveon it?
How are you handling it? And going about all of this
specifically for like as like for Prospect specifically not
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being able to, you have to petition to get your to stay in
with your license and everything.
If you're under a certain bracket, all of these different
changes that have these make in?Yeah, I mean as far as
Maintaining your license is always been an order of
operation of how they choose that, right?
So there's a five-step, you know, bracket for how they
determine who's going to be in the series and now, When I when
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I first started like that FD, had a hard time filling the Pro
2 or Prospect you don't bracket with drivers, right?
There was only 20 drivers and now that they have a you know
now the FD is growing in the direction that they want to,
they have an abundance of drivers so now they have to be a
little more selective about which drivers they choose and
yeah I think we had what last year's like 40 something
(43:42):
Prospect drivers? Yeah 48 that's insane.
That's waiting. Oh I mean my eyes just depends
on how they're running the you know the program they want to
keep the top 32 bracket like they do for competition.
And yeah that's probably like the most it can ever see I can't
it can't exceed 50 drivers, right doesn't work.
Well, do you think as far as where you sit in that bracket,
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how are you handling? All of this and what is your I
know you probably don't have a definite plan but like what are
you thinking? What are your ideas you're
tossing around. Yeah, so to the viewers you
might be watching who might not know just to be transparent.
I'm not an empty this year. I earned my license five years
ago. I was an FD for four full years
but with the the amount of mechanical issues I had this
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year, I didn't get to drive veryoften and if you're not driving
you're not you're not winning you're not getting any
competition points but even qualifying.
So it's like you know, if you'renot driving you're gonna just
Fall to the bottom of the list and I felt too far to
automatically renew my license and there are too many new
drivers coming in who have earned their license in a Pro-Am
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series or they're an international Petition of that
exceeded my level of being able to come back in.
So obviously, I was not anticipating last year being my
last year and after, but it is my last year because I did lose
that spot. So how am I taking that, right?
Like what am I gonna do? I don't know.
Exactly, I know that I'm not interested in like jumping back
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down in the Pro-Am and trying tocompete to get back in it,
right? Yeah.
FD does take everything and takes everything takes all of
your time. All your money.
Every birthday holiday friendship.
Relationship girlfriend. You know and anything whatever.
It's just it takes all of your time.
Yeah, I didn't perspective too. Like just to barely do any labs
because like you said, they can't call failures are so just
(45:32):
a fact of spinning as much moneyand time and effort just to show
up to that place and not even hardly be able to do a lap.
Is defeating enough. Yeah, it's Tough.
I mean, every race car driver has that one year.
Whether they're like, dude, 2012was horrible.
I'm so glad he was terrible. And that was my year last year.
I didn't know that would be the time of my, my ft career, but
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there's so many more opportunities to do stuff
outside of FD. Like, you, I am talking to you a
good life, like this is great. I don't know that I'd be able to
do this right now if I was stilldoing nothing my car because
Atlanta's just in a few weeks, right?
But I would say that if anyone was aspiring to be an FD driver,
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I would still give them, you know, full support.
And if they had any information,you know, any questions or
anything that I could do to helpthem do that if they're actually
truly cool, passionate about it.Not like, I've had people come
up to me and they're like, dude,I don't want to be an empty
driver like oh sweet. What car do you have?
No, like, I don't have a car andI'm like, oh okay, I don't
really work. I don't like well what what if
you competed in there, like, oh,I've never drifted before and
(46:35):
I'm like, okay, you're a long way dog.
I'm like, okay, okay, this doesn't wrong with that either.
Like having a long way to go is just a part of the ride right
there. Anyone when I was interested in
FD Journey took 10 plus years tomake it happen.
So start earning an actual dollar.
I'm sure. Yeah, I totally get it.
That's cool that you're still like willing to help people and
if they have any advice that they yeah, 100% still give it to
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him and stuff as far as like if the opportunity ever did a rise
where maybe rules changed so on and so forth.
Would you ever? Like exercise, the opportunity
to go back to FD at all. If I go back to FD at this
point, I think I would like to come back as a team owner.
Because owner, I found him in myopinion and I have been told by
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others too, but I truly stronglybelieve in my own opinion that
when you are when I was competing with you know, some of
the world's best drivers, right?I'm not maybe the world's best
driver, right? Like I made an FD awesome but
like, it was I Podium every, every round know, I wasn't.
Yeah. But I did learn that I was
exceeding. The marketing side in comparison
(47:43):
to some of my competitors. That's cool, right?
So that team management and owning and operating a team and
then having solidified sponsors and maintaining them and
representing them correctly, in a professional Motors where I
felt like, I did, that way, way,way better than I actually did
the driving. So if that is my strength in
this world that I'm in, I think that if I came back in to the
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prefer, professional series of that world, that I would take on
a different role like that. Awesome.
Yeah. Well long as lines then what
would you say has something you've learned in the marketing
side that has helped you tremendously whether it's
consistency or like, just so specific way to put a video
together or anything like that. Yeah, I mean that's a that's a
that could be its own podcast right answers there.
(48:30):
I mean I all right so as a prospect driver I ended last
year with 21 sponseller sponsorships like whether you're
getting parts and like you're getting in some cases monetary
support. You know.
It's not just like you get 10% off.
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Like yeah. How most people think that's a
sponsorship is not? Yeah I would say I'm more of a
partnership. If you're getting a discount on
parts or something, you have a part I wouldn't even consider it
a partnership. Yeah, I mean it's some kind of
an agreement like you just got adiscount right just to wrap
someone's name for free when I say sponsorship.
I mean, I was actually a page driver like cool.
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And if you're going to detail I just not like if I didn't like
have my most expensive season last year because of all my
mechanical repairs. I had to make, right?
I probably would have like not put out anything to do after And
I don't think a lot of prospect drivers can say that either.
Yeah, so that's good. Oh, I like that.
You've got some some experience with the marketing and I hope to
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see you maybe one day back in FDsomehow, someway, whatever way
that ends up being but you thinkyou'll ever like run the grid
life route the whole you know big fun event route for the time
being is that kind of what your goal is as far as my FD card
goes. I'm probably gonna like Dumb it
down, to make it a more inexpensive to operate.
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I don't need a 700, horsepower car.
Yeah, certain events like this and whatnot.
So if I could dumb it down and make it more inexpensive to
operate, I'd like to be able to use my FD car more fun events.
Like you're talking about also two other drift cars that I can
use, you know. So I this year is a year for me
to restructure my my own programas far as my fleet and being
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able to do the events that I want to do and and as I do those
events, I think it will, it willshow me where I want to put my
fourth, my time and my energy, and absolutely, I think you'll
fall a little better and stuff like this, if you are starting
to get the feel of marketing as much as you say.
Yeah, this will be a way better opportunity.
I think. So, I'm excited to see what
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happens. And yeah, man, you have any like
I guess events that you're coming up on, you want to
announce ring, anything like that, you I'm still trying to
figure out what it is. I'm doing my own adrift
experience. This is something where, you
know, I've built a car where if you wanted to go see what the
drift, you know, you just sign up.
(51:00):
I give you the keys and you get to drive the whole time and I
sit in the passenger seat and I coach, you abilities to the
best. You can be in our session where
can people sign up for that? They can Hit the link in my bio.
All right, my website's Jack motorsports.com.
But if you can't remember, I just go to my any of my BIOS.
(51:21):
My pages, you'll be able to findit super easy, but I sell out
every year and now that I'm not an idea, I could do more of that
and, you know those events bringin come in.
Yeah, yeah. All the events I used to do.
I used to take all the money. Yeah, dude.
That's the bread and butter. That's what you mark it out.
I would love to do more more of those and then just do more fun
events and and I think I'll be very very busy this year.
(51:44):
Just figuring all those out. Awesome, dude.
Well I look forward to seeing itand yes, thanks again for
stopping by. Thanks so cool.
Let's talk about you for hot second here.
This is awesome. You got this mobile setup,
obviously, it's your business isincreasing, which is awesome.
I see that you're going away. More events, you know, as each
year goes right. That's awesome.
(52:05):
Like you're gonna be going to all the good life this year.
Is that the plan? Yeah, it's like it and then are
you And what other events are you looking to do this year?
So obviously, you know, you've got possibly LS Fest.
I was just talking to Swan aboutdoing that.
See, that's what I wanted to do.I've never done LS that really
right? And I can do that if I want to.
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Oh yeah, you got very excited while Texas is really wild too.
I finally got to go to one of those last year.
And that was really cool but I'mobviously doing like a bunch of
events, like East 10 and fuel Fest for Media stuff for some
drivers and yeah, I've got No ironed out schedule, okay?
But like Everything's revolving around gridlife, okay?
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That's that's the concept of this year.
That's good, that's good. I like that.
So. Yeah, dude.
Does seven rounds are not aroundseries.
What's how? Many events for good life for
good? I think it's Five or six.
Okay. Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, man, it's cool. So, dude, thanks for having me
back. It's always good to see you.
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A movie. You can watch it.
I stay doing Grassroots because I want to interact with people
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Back on. He's here.
Absolutely be here. Good to see the car back.
Yeah. Cars back to now.
Yeah. Just twice the stress.
Explain it. How does it add twice distress
having two cars? It was kind of undecided Walter
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told us they wanted a second carfor 25 and we all know I had
some car trouble and 24 but we resolved that and that's all
thanks to late model engines andswitching our Electronics over
to link and the support from those guys I mean we've had No
issues. Yeah, tires and fuel.
That's all the car wants. So Walter told us they wanted a
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second car, but they weren't quite sure yet.
So we kind of just juggled the idea pretty much all the way
until December. Jesus.
Yeah. So then it was once they
approved it. We were good bringing Jackson
and if we didn't second car, it was going to be Jackson.
And so why him real quick? I mean he's about to come on.
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Yeah. Well he's my neighbor.
He's the one who got me back in the drifting.
He's good driver. And you want, if you have
somebody in your truck, your house your shop, you want
something you can trust. Absolutely.
So it was just you know I knew that if I was ever gonna do it,
we were already toting his ass around, bringing it in places,
like just give him a key. Yeah, so we ain't even store it,
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get a shell that we were stored in my garage.
So like I said, though, once they approved it and they were
like, okay, we're doing it. We had to get our other partners
on board too. Yeah, so getting konik, you
know, Kona came on Supply. The wheels for the car.
We got Kenda? Yeah, jumped on.
For both cars, link. Hardtop.
Motorsports wired, both the cars, you know, that's because
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that's their he did it at his house or at his shop and in
Oregon. So um Elena.
So we got two late model enginesnight in my car, one in his Who
else? I mean, I'm gonna forget
somebody. Of course, Tilton came on board.
So both cars, utilize the same clutch package.
Yeah. Although the cars are a little
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different. We're able to like, save money
by having basically one spare that we share.
Same with SLO R. Yeah, one spare SLR.
Get to split between both cars. You know, the budget is only
gonna allow so much. Yeah.
So you know, we start small, youknow, this stuff first year, if
it goes, well, that next year, we'll we'll ramp it up.
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Get another kit and then start allocating Bears packages to
each car. Yeah.
But with that, the whole thing like really coming together at
the end of December, we had three months to build a car And
it's just Jackson. And I know we don't have anybody
at home like a crew guy. It's just me and Jackson and
like, your car still needed somestuff at this.
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Yeah, we did the new motor from Melanie and all those.
It's not less than last year. We switched to a motorbike Okay,
engine mounts and what's gonna motor plate?
It's got the dry sump. So, it went off to Andy sea
housing and Saint, Louis got allthe Fab work.
So, it got a, an enclosure for the dry sump tank.
Yeah, yeah. And I had to make new oil lines.
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We also did a bigger radiator this year, and, A couple other
small things, but it was a couple weeks in St.
Louis, we we drove out there with all of our parts
Reassembled, the car and St. Louis.
The local organization there. Yeah.
In St. Louis invited us out.
Let us come test. Oh, that's cool.
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Yeah. So we tested the car, nobody
panels. And that went really good.
XO card is fuck. Yeah.
And then we came home Jackson does a little bit of fiberglass
on the side. So he fixed my kid up from last
year Hayden from her. You got one of those guys.
Yeah that's fun to have Hayden from Marky Mark.
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Came out from. Charlotte wrapped the cars.
He designed both liveries. I wanted to stay with kind of
the blue and black because that's your dude.
I will say that blue that you did this year hits so much
better. It's stands out like crazy.
It was a little bit overcast. It was like dark blue.
Yeah, it was Was so the blues better for sure.
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And if you remember like back tothe S14 that car was always blue
and black and I'm just trying tokeep it going as long as I can.
Yeah I feel it dude looks good. The white and black on Jackson's
and we kind of look at both cars.
Like Jackson's cars a little brother to my car you know what
I mean? Yeah it's a lot of the stuff
that we ran on my car last year and then just transitioned it
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over to Jackson's. It's still wet something but
it's you know built by a companythat We believe and they stand
behind us. Yeah, that engine has been
Flawless for Jackson. That's absolutely well.
They seem to be ripping out here.
So, how do you like is as far asDiscord life goes in South
Carolina, this track how the cars perform on it.
I will say that where there's a car track and a big track.
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And this could be more of a driver's skill issue.
But the car is set up, really good for the car track.
Yeah, and it's too much for the big track.
Like I was on the phone with reader last night.
I was just telling him, I was like, dude, the cars.
That driving right on the big track and he was like, give your
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boss front sway bars too tight. And really yes, it's too stiff.
So he was like if you you know soft in the front bar it's gonna
drive better on the big track but it drives really good on the
car. Track, you don't want to suck, I
get that. Other thing is just tired.
The big track you get, maybe I'dlap and a half on a set of
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tires. Yeah, which is ideally, not even
really a full lap, you can't runthe full course and what that
does good life for me is all about ride alongs.
Yeah, I want to get people an experience that they maybe never
had before it wouldn't have outside of this environment.
So I want to do a lap. I want to swap somebody out.
Want to get a new person in the car.
Yeah, and I want to do that. You can't do that on the big
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track. So I'm sacrificing My head.
I'm sacrificing my time to driveon the big track and staying
over on the car tracks, like, gives me any ride along as
possible. Yeah.
And, you know, obviously if likeso for context, it just to be
able to pull back out of grid onthe big track is a pain in the
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ass and then getting someone to your car out there and even more
of a pain in the ass. Yeah.
And you know how a lot of time like 20 minutes sessions, and it
takes a few minutes to get around the track each time.
Uh so for me with this, this event specifically the car track
caters more to the fans. Yeah, if you've ever been here,
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you know this there's a fence line that you can stand on and
be really close to the track andsee everything.
Whereas the big track, you're really only able to see a couple
corners. Yeah.
And it's all about the fans. And the fun Corners are out in
the back, that's all out and stuff is to stick.
Yeah. So for me, it's all about the
fans and trying to do stuff withthem and engage with them and
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the car track allows that we have this.
You've been over there, the kindof a hang out area.
Right. Yeah.
And so because of Tyre wear and Ride Along that's where we're
going to be. I think that that's probably the
best option. This is we're going to drive
other big tracks this year, right?
We're going to gingerman. Yeah last year.
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Absolutely. So really looking forward to
gingerman this is Jackson's first grid life.
Is it really? Oh wow.
That's a whole experience in itself and I would say that this
is the most tame of all right? Like this is oh yeah I've been
saying that all day. This is a very laid-back
environment. There's not a lot of cars.
There's plenty of parking True. You know, our pit area is like
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an acre. Oh, I know.
Two trucks parked over the trailer Cars.
Plenty of room. Yeah.
So, but yeah, it's been great. Happy to see you guys here and
absolutely all of them. Do what you're gonna be at all
of them? Yeah, I should be at all of them
this year so that's exciting. Excited to see that and venture
out a little bit more but as faras your whole Venture this year
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what what events do you plan on doing?
Is it just grid lights or is it?Yeah well a lot of the stuff
we're doing this year is contentwith Walther.
Oh we're gonna do a drift Mansion kind of a retreat.
Yeah, I remember me saying something about like the staff
from Walter come out. Travis reader will be there,
Jackson will be there. I'll be there, possibly a couple
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other guests and we're just gonna film great content.
Making some commercials for Waltham.
Saw that one we just did. Yeah, for the California.
And then Grid life gingerman wrote America.
Possibly like some nappy boy events.
Those are always fun. Absolutely I gotta make it out
to one. They do a great job.
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It's just good people like yeah.It's, you know, it's tough to
make a schedule because stuff pops up, you know, we talked
about the drift HQ 4th of July event out here, I saw Savio
today and he came up, gave me a big hug and was like, Hey, You
Gotta come out? That's cool.
So yeah, maybe that I don't know.
Yeah, follow me on the same spotman and keep up with my
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schedule. Yeah, can you do like, you know,
you think you have a schedule and then something better pops
up. Yeah, something that's just been
telling everyone on basement most of my schedule off grid
life so you can almost guaranteethat.
Yeah. And then you just kind of manage
her out that. Yeah.
And there's so many events like I prefer honestly going to
smaller events. Like I do this, like, I stayed
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doing Grassroots shit because I want to interact with people.
I want to have the time to talk to people, to let them ask a
million questions, you know. Like that's cool and I'm trying
to, I want people if they can come to an event and leave and
go, you know what like that. That guy was fun to be around.
I'm gonna build a car. Yeah.
I'm gonna go buy Walter or whatever you know, like that's
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the whole goal. So, a lot of times you smaller
even at any level do you believe?
Still believe that. Well, I don't like FD or
something. I just think it's smaller
events. It's easier to spend time with
fans, whatever, like FD, if I was gonna do FD, I'm gonna win.
I'm not talking socialize. But you kind of have to though.
I'm trying to win. Yeah, that's why I'm there.
And even gridlife the sessions are so scarce.
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You know, you're pretty locked in to make sure that you're
getting out on track and and getting your laps in here.
It's a little bit different because the car track, but
right, for the most part, the smaller events are easier to
mingle and spend time with, you know, it's Spectators and fit
old fans and new fans whatever. Yeah, and just have
conversations and drive. Cool.
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I'm glad to see you out and gladthe cars are running great.
Fuck. That's all I'm gonna say.
I want to jinx young. Anything know they've been
great. I mean so it's the late model
engines. Yeah.
Like that's if it wasn't for lme.
Like I was either gonna get awayfrom llc's or go to lme.
There was no in between there was no If lme didn't want to do
(12:10):
anything, I was gonna switch platforms.
Yeah. But it's like, you know, to
anyone that is ignorant to thoseplatforms.
Well, most people are gonna knowabout LS, but what what are the,
what is the difference? Why is it more well like
valuable or better? It's tough with ls is because
and na power naturally. Aspirated Motors to get big
Power. Yeah, really expensive.
(12:30):
True if you want 600 650 and a horsepower with no add or no
nitrous it's gonna cost you 40 or 50 Grand.
Yeah. And what that right there deters
people from going out last one they can go buy a junkyard Jay-Z
slap, a turbo on it. Make 800, you know, but I am
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straight and I love Jay Z's. I had.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, I know, and I had just had such good luck with LSS when I
had the S14 when I got into the 46.
I was like, well, oh that's it. I know the ls pretty well. and
we have some bad luck last year,and after doing my research and
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really take the time to sit downand look at these shops that are
cranking these motors out and talk to me.
Was it like yeah. Connor Sullivan's, a perfect
example. He uses them.
That's true. But I also did my own research
outside of him and his team, youknow, telling me that they're
good and I reached out to them and And now we're Partners.
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That's awesome. It's one of those things where
you like you kind of manifested it.
Yeah. Like I had already committed to
them before they even knew who the fuck I was.
You're mine bitch. You know what I mean.
Yeah, committed to it. Yeah.
Where did you meet them again? Ah, really met him at PRI?
in person, cold call to them, Steven He got me kind of started
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with them. We the conversation.
Oh and I wasn't gonna go to PRI really like you should come and
look just meet everybody and I think that had, I not gone this
year. It wouldn't have happened.
Yeah. So he.
Alright, this year was a huge success for our program.
You know, we're sometimes you go.
You just there to see your friends?
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Yeah, he's not a little bit, you're not there to get, you
know, everybody I guess everybody's want, goes there to
try to get money or deals or whatever.
But this time, it was just to meet a certain group of
individuals. Yeah.
And it worked out I mean they took I went down there for two
weeks. Spent some time with everybody
got to know, everybody filmed a bunch of product videos for him.
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Say yeah, awesome content and since the partnership of
started, the customer service has been fantastic.
The engines been fantastic. Yeah, you know, I can call the
old, I call the owner cell phoneBrian and I'm like, hey man.
Yeah, that's always gonna have abetter relationship.
He don't give a shit. He answers, like that is
(14:59):
awesome. I'm so grateful, dude, I'm gonna
be shut the phone off at 5:00, you know, nine to five for me,
mother phones are and, and they're not talking until Monday
morning, you know, so good, dude.
It's great. Really good to hear.
Awesome. Oh hell yeah you got anything
else you want to mention for theseason know?
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I'm just busy doing a lot of stuff with Walter.
I mean it's super cool to see How involved Walther is getting
like? They got their feet wet last
year and now they have two cars.Now, they have two cars.
They're investing in and contentwith the cars outside of the
race track, you know? Yeah.
And and really, I guess I shouldreally be thinking the people in
(15:43):
the Firearms industry that showed us love and kind of
welcoming pretty accepting you know.
Like I was crazy but love me this motor sports thing into
their their world you know and I'm obviously shooter a huge
advocate for guns and training and so I think I'm the right
fit. I hope to do it for many more
(16:04):
years. Well from my angle.
It looks like you're doing a great job at it because I don't
see anyone else. Bridging.
The Gap from now Jake fire arms drinking PS asked me today
really get sick. I was like we're enemies.
Oh, you're screwed motherfuker. Do you think I could take jtp?
(16:26):
I'm not getting in between the gangster.
Yeah he is a straight up Gangster and my favorite driver.
But I will fight jtp. See it all next episode.
Yeah. Click.
Now get him on the podcast and tell him.
I was talking. Shit, I will.
Yeah, tag him. He's the best.
If I don't. If I didn't get him on already
(16:47):
tagged him you should get them all.
I'll try to. Yeah, he's the best and this is
all out of love, just to be clear.
We are friends and this is a joke, 100, here we are.
You know a Pro driver that we all look up to huge gun.
Guys, love training, you know. And you know, wants to help, you
(17:10):
know, we want to see, we want toencourage training.
If you own a gun, you should train with it.
Absolutely. We're not out here to promote
anything but safety training andgood products, you know, and I
think don't be an idiot. Yeah.
And I think it takes good individuals promoting the right
way to do things, you know, like, A guy's doing a takeover
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versus a guy going to a drift event, right?
There's yes, there's two cars sliding right?
There's a car. Just like a bad Advocate and the
gun world. Yeah, same thing, right?
So just takes the right people. Jpp would be a good one.
I would agree. Cool.
Dude. It will start to happen.
Oh, I'm sure they'll trick. Yeah.
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If one does it? Others will follow.
Yeah, so glad Walter was the first one me too.
There you go. Hell yeah, dude.
We'll go have fun out there and appreciate you again for coming.
Well I'm sure we'll do a full episode again, whatever you
want. I'm in
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All right, we got Jackson. He is there.
So, tell me a little bit about yourself in case anyone out
there doesn't know part of all three team now.
So part of the Walter team. Big, thanks to Caleb Walter one
of two cars. So and then just background me.
I've been drifting for like two years now.
Yeah, it's my first year, I drifted like 33 events.
So I got a ton of seat time, like, 4,000 plus lapse.
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Your first year is 303. I want everywhere.
Like, every like Like two to three times a month, just go and
drifting as much. Like, I could, just trying to
learn as yeah, as much as possible.
You know, how far were you traveling?
They're not. I went there from South
Carolina, all the way up to us are and like, what's going on?
Oh everywhere. Oh, that's a hike.
Yeah. Okay.
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Did a couple comps? Got out on top of a bunch?
Yeah, that was very specific. Yeah.
Every couple like top eight knocked but it is what it is.
Absolutely, dude, I remember youback in the.
Is it the technically the same E46?
So yeah. Is it a different chassis?
(19:53):
Same exact car. Oh man, you've been driving this
shit out of that car. Yeah.
And it for a stock power car I made on the dynamic 194 so not
not really yeah, couldn't even break too.
That's crazy. Yeah.
And then the same motor actuallytook that motor out the same
engine, trans drive shaft all the way through.
So took it out put in my daily sedan, I was driving at the
time, like two college and then did a comp at Atlanta and one
(20:15):
more time called Richards, whichis pretty cool.
No shit. Yeah, so I got to go get up
against like, a pro guy. Okay, so I know you're probably
a little humble, but that is actually extremely impressive.
What car was he in? He was in there for us his
actual dude. Okay.
So I literally asked TJ hunt this earlier.
What is What is your best adviceon keeping up with a fast car?
(20:37):
When you are in a slow car? So let's angle.
It was also like a tread wear like radio class.
Like we couldn't go anywhere like a 300 so okay that helps.
Yeah and then there's also tire wall.
I think too many five I was on 245 so not a huge difference but
yeah. Um but yeah man.
Just just trying to like take a little bit of angle out.
(20:59):
Just trying to Be as close as you possibly can.
I mean there's no other way, just Push as hard as you can.
Are you using transitions as theway to keep up, though, as you
transitions. Like, if he's not like, say,
he's not straighten out for as much and like, shooting off, I'm
trying to like straighten out and like almost like Josh
straight for half a second longer to gain that extra box.
(21:20):
Maybe. Yeah, this car would have that
gained anyway, you know. Okay.
So I I would assume you did Sam then, did you ever drive?
That's crazy because that is a very like Specific habit, that
Sim Drifters. Yeah.
And if that one, I would love tohave one but it's like I was
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better invest that time and I know this is like contradictory
but I'd rather invest the time just driving.
Yeah, partying with the boys, you know, well the fact that
it's only been two years of driving and you've the
progression that you've had. It's probably from being only
damn cops. Like just force yourself being
calm. I'm trying, most people don't do
that. Yeah, and my leads lack, I won't
lie like Caleb's leads me and his leads are great.
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He's an angle, right, he's put the car.
I like that guy, whatever. But in the chase, not just
that's where I've always focused.
Just like, yeah, he has aggressive as you possibly can
be. Oh yeah.
So okay, then, why did you want to take the step to go to a
more? Pro level build, I guess, most
people would say I was tired of not being able to hang with the
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really fast dudes, especially A stock power car.
Can't really. I mean, it's like, power, 846
can't be out here doing this. You know, it's just, it's not
gonna make the last, I mean, it could, it had the mind, you
can't extend out the transitionsthat right?
Right. Well, do you think because I
asked this to TJ earlier too, doyou think it is in an important
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or it was good that you started in a less of a car?
And that's something that wasn'tas very well set up like a super
overpowered car like, way way out of the league you could say
and it's just they have no idea how to drive.
I see people out here today thatI'm not trying to shut anybody
out, but like, no. Yeah, he's just like, they don't
know the car. Like, they don't understand like
the basics behind just drifting.If they had like a lower power
(23:10):
car, it's much easier to learn that way.
You're not just blow the tires off and just spinning all the
time like it, you had to learn how to truly drop the car.
Yeah. Well how has it been out here
since this is this is the first event really like beating on the
car, right? Yeah, no shit.
All right. So how is that going on your
(23:31):
perspective? Then do I love it?
The like I've been beating the absolute crap out of this
element motor band and it I meannon-stop limiter and it's taking
every single bit of it. No issues, no hiccups, no,
nothing. Like I mean, absolutely.
How did you choose that motor because of Caleb or was it like
something you were actually looking at beforehand as well?
(23:51):
I was with Caleb last year and Isaw him go through five.
Yeah, I'm not to come out but like in the winter he was like,
I'm gonna go to lme. We're gonna talk about this,
we're gonna like truly try to figure out an LS engine package
or else we're gonna swap to someof the platform.
Be a 2J, whatever. I wanted to go in 50.
We'll talk about that. Oh, but oh yeah, big BMW guy.
(24:13):
But he talked to LMI and he was like, I think this is the, this
is the way here. And then, I was like, all right,
I was like, whatever you say, like, we'll give it a shot, and
it's been great. That's killer dude.
Well, now you gotta explain the M50 part. because I'm curious
now, so Yeah, bone stock in 5. 4made. 1944 already said that,
(24:36):
but just so many laughs, only thing I ever changed was the
oil. I lost the power.
Steering. Pump one time.
And then an alternator. Other than that, I never did a
single thing. Never took off the oil.
Pan valve cover never came off and now I sold that car tire.
Barry. He's still, ripping it.
Oh, yeah. And that is good.
Now, put in my sedan, everythingnever had a single issue with
it, so but you would have, you would have had to at least boost
(24:59):
it or something. Yeah.
And that's, that's all gonna getto like, to truly, like, make
the competitive power you need to.
I've seen a lot of people have more issues with.
Yeah. So that's just like stuck in 54
is. But if you go like an M50, I've
seen people have pretty good luck with them.
Like, you'll love a cell. Yeah, I don't know exactly how
to say his last name, so forgiveme if I butcher names all the
time, so that's fine. But no.
(25:20):
Like I've seen a, you've probably met Andy.
May they do that travels? In his RV was family.
Yeah, he's so bad for him. Sometimes he goes through the
worst of luck with those Motors.Yeah, I assume it's the same
thing for whatever, but same, same, whatever in my they're all
Legos. Anyways but I guess why wouldn't
(25:40):
would you ever build another carto do that?
Same route. Because, like, so I feel like
you're eventually gonna be like,I got A scratch.
It my daily but I haven't M50 inmy garage.
I have a full head, like, all kinds of stuff.
Okay. For it.
So ideally I'd like it's already.
I would like to go down that route at some point.
(26:02):
Jesus, so there's gonna be a third Walther car.
No, no, I want to say that. Well, how other than the car,
how did you come into the picture with Walter and that
whole ordeal? Like, how is that just you man?
Kelly be my neighbor again man. I know he mentioned the same
thing right before me, but just going around.
(26:23):
I remember. So I was driving my actually 406
with like wrap Liberty, all thatcrap on it and he put up his
slimy on the street. We're just cruising and he was
like, yo, that drift car. I was like, yeah, he was like,
wait that whole fast wheel too and I was like, yeah, he's like
pull over man. So I gotta talk to you.
Yeah. So he pulled over started
chatting and it's just evolved from there.
It's crazy. How simple of a friendship can
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start now. And now my best friend Bill One
race cars and shit. The best friends, man.
It's been great. That's crazy.
Well, as far as representing Walter how other than the car
are you guys doing that? From your end though?
I know, he's like big cameraman.Yeah.
Yeah. Company very well.
I will say that I just do what Ican, I'm not the best shooter.
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Yeah, I just want to drive aggressive.
I mean, I'm actually like reallytrying to learn the shooting
side of things but it's something that lack In Caleb's,
a good coach. And we've been, we've been
shooting some yeah identification.
You've never been fully like into Firearms or anything.
I mean, I grew up shooting some but nothing.
To the extent of like truly training.
That that factory, you know, like a lot of time training
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that, well, that honestly, that'd be insane content.
Yeah. Just to be able to train someone
on camera that's just like off the street, like knows a little
bit. Nothing crazy.
Yeah. Taking that and just run it with
it. And seeing what they can do
within like maybe like give likea two week class or something
and just see where they progressfrom them to their.
Yeah, that's cool dude. Well, do you I guess?
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Do you ever plan on taking this whole program?
I guess both of y'all into more competition.
Real competition and going FD myself.
I love to. Okay, that's where my heart
lies. Why do you chose that route
versus this stuff? I'm a very competitive person.
Yeah. It's just like, I just want that
competition side. Like this is a blast, don't get
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me wrong. But there's nothing more than
being like trying to knock out your buddy.
And top 32 top, 16, whatever. Just going for the win, man.
Just play sports growing up. No really okay?
So Wow, really. Yeah, that's cool but that's
like as much as I did. Yeah, I get it.
That's I see. It is a common thing like if you
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did play sports growing up you're more than likely to not
be as competitive once you get into drifting because that's how
I am I played baseball since like I was four.
Yeah. So until my senior year of high
school and now I couldn't care less about competition dude.
But I don't know what makes you even want to do it?
It's just like yeah. Give it my best shot.
That's what like me like, growing up.
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I was just always like, I want to just compete in drifting ever
since I got my first car. I was like, I want to do this,
so, oh yeah, if it happens, it happens.
But I would like for it. So next year, he's going to
Pro-Am God, what is going to Pro-Am?
We'll see. And they don't, and they don't
care as much about that but yeah, I'm just like that.
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Yeah. Give you a couple bucks to go
towards it'd be helpful. Well what's your favorite
firearm from Arthur? Let me get that.
I have a PDP. That.
Still frame. Awesome.
Pretty cool. Oh yeah.
Well you got anything else. You want to share for this
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coming season? Anything special?
Oh, drift mansion. That's pretty.
Yeah. but that's I don't know the whole schedule, so I just
kind of go with the flow. Let kale decide and I'm just
here, just tell me where to point the car.
Yeah, I just want to drive, man.That's awesome man.
Well, I'm really stoked for you.I love to see the progression.
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You're a hell of a driver now. Thank you.
I'm driving. I hope you wanna be a legit car.
Good, dude. Good.
We'll go. Show him, how good of a car.
It is appreciate it, man. Thanks for making time.
Well, is day three actually and we got Alex back on the podcast,
so, that's a friendly face. Yeah.
How are we doing this weekend, man?
No car, no, no, no, no, no. I can't hear for a buddy of
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mine's. That's your party is a group of
five of us. So, hold the bachelor party.
Yeah, crazy. We never been to a good life.
I've always wanted to go to a great life and I was like this
what a great way to have. What's your, okay?
So what is your What was your expectation before coming to
Grid live versus how it went? Like what did you think?
So you know, good life. We have all these events now
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that exists, right? Thank you very much, we have.
Thanks Jamie. We.
Well, we have all these different events.
We have clutch kickers. We have good lives.
We have hyper fests. We have just all these different
ways to be involved in cars now and car events, right?
You know, some of them are obviously heavily emphasized
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with, you know, content creatorslike YouTubers or influencers
and you know, summer, you know, FD drivers and things.
So yeah, it's just really cool to come out here and it's see
all the different styles of driving and I don't know.
I'm just cool. It definitely was.
I'm so glad that I came, I was surprised about maybe like the,
like the size of it. I thought maybe it would be a
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little bit bigger. Yeah.
And I think came the wrong one. Well, it's like the most mellow
grid life ever, which I love. That's a great start to the
season. You get, you get to come out,
get your feet wet and all that stuff and then if you like it.
You like all right now I gotta try the real thing.
Yeah, Midwest Fest. I mean, I definitely want to
participate in some good life and I'm glad like if there was
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one I got to, like, see what it was like as like a more of a
spectator and not be driving andparticipating a good one to do
that. So true.
Yeah. Have more freedom to do it.
Would you think of like the music and stuff that atmosphere
being added to it? Yeah, yeah.
The, I mean, it reminds me a lotof other events, like a hyper
Fest where they had the DJs and stuff at night and whatnot.
So I thought it was cool. Last night, I did an emo emo
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night and, you know, we all listen to pick You blue balled
the fuck out of us, who I thought that was actual like, it
was gonna be straight up just Emo music.
Oh, just, you know, hits from the 90s or the two early 2000s,
but it was like, Nicks, which isfine.
I'm just not ATM person so like it just didn't hit right with
me. Yeah.
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I wish it was a little bit more emo.
Then they, you know, but you know, they get, you know,
they're just trying to do what they can know the music growing.
That's just me being picky. It was actually great.
It was a good time and people were having fun.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah man. Well as far as the track and
stuff, I know you haven't you weren't driving it or anything
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but what is your impression of the track versus all the ones
that you've driven? I'm sure you've done other road
course similar. Yeah, yeah, so they have the two
drift course here. They have the little car track.
I mean, which you can wheel anything.
If its 100 horsepower, 500 horsepower, you just send it.
Dude is getting beat to shit. You see turn one?
Yeah. So, and then the the road
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course, I mean, you gonna need ahigh horsepower car.
You got some full sense. Stuff, you know, full commitment
and you need the power to be able to power through it.
Yeah, I think Nate chin was hit and what was it 127 was his Peak
injury? Yeah, he was looking really good
and he was like, you know, I kind of like digged his Vibe
because he's like, you know, it's not competition.
She's like, I'm gonna send some back, he's there.
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Like I was listening as it's like going down the street.
He wasn't like letting up at theend.
He And if you're slowing in front of him at all, he will not
hesitate to pass you. Yeah.
It's so funny. But hell yeah, man.
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying gridlife.
It's really cool. Yeah, definitely got to come
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out. Are you do you plan on coming
anymore? Yeah, I definitely not.
Now I've gotten the vibe. I'm like, okay.
Now, I want to like, come to start wanna drive, you know, at
least one or two or whatever. So, talk to some of the other
drivers getting their advice about which ones to go to.
And would you bring the pro cardor one of these I would assume
right. Yeah, I mean like if honestly,
if it was this one I don't know that.
I would have maybe it maybe thiswould be more appropriate for
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the Z just so I could do more laps here on the cars and stuff.
Taking people for a long trip like the perfect event to bring
both right that way because liketrailer, Richard is out here in
his his BMW on the car track butas soon as he goes on the on the
road course she's bringing the 86 South.
Yeah. That's my truck problems too.
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My truck ain't big enough. I got three drift cars but
they're going to bring on what astipulation that is, Oh my God.
First world problems right? Which one you think you'll come
to next? I know everybody keeps talking
about the one in I guess. Wisconsin or Michigan?
Midwest Fest. Yeah.
That once I've heard a lot of good stuff is an East Coast
driver myself. I've heard a lot about Lime
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Rock. Yeah, whatever.
So yeah, those are the two they're definitely in my sights.
I would love to maybe squeeze inAtlanta, but I don't know if I
have the right ingredients to pull that off in time.
I mean, yeah, I really done a whole lot of my car or in the
offseason this year. So it'd be a lot to like, try to
prepare, get ready real quick right and just a few days after
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that is hyperfest. So it's like maze, the Stacked
month. Like everybody dude.
See that's the I want to go to hyperfest so bad but it always
conflicts with somewhere. I have to be.
So like I always get screwed every single time.
Yeah. But eventually I'll make it to a
hyperfest and since it's always in May it always that's where
it's got the nickname of like wiper Fest, right?
Always has a like horrifically. One day is raining, like just
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hurricane destroys Everything and we all Park in the grass.
So our cars just like sink underground.
We gotta like dig them out, right?
Yeah. One year, I think it was over
here. One year was in like September
October. So great.
Yeah I mean again please. Yeah.
Oh yeah well you mentioned the car was still kind of in pieces
so what all needs to be done to get it freshened up for the
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season. Oh man last year was like super
rough for mechanically? Like one thing I guess I never
like realized was in previous years.
My car is always been so reliable, right?
And I like, I've always watched my friends like blowing up
Motors doing this. I'm like, yeah, I don't have
those problems. And then yeah 20 24 was my year
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is the engine platform and stuffin it.
Yeah it's a super tragic LS on snow Coe.
Okay yeah so I've had that engine in there for eight years.
Jesus Christ. I know eight years and this year
I said running on it this year. It said bye.
What power was it running? Oh yeah, like I said, we had
some Mechanicals this year. So there some misconstrued
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numbers but we're thinking it right now.
It's about 700, okay? So this still, like a
conservative number for LS like yeah.
I mean, I don't like saying thatit lasted that long.
Yeah, no. It's it's I'm very blessed for
sure but this year we tried to be a little bit more competitive
by increasing that horse power. And I think the increase in
boost and stuff made it made themotor start to Yeah.
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So what are you doing to compensate for that this year?
Like you putting new internals in it or well specific
internals? Honestly that I don't know if
you know this but the internal is on it we're always Factory.
So it's factory really Factory rots had a little bit of head
work done as far as like Springsabout training stuff, but it was
a very mild like build had a Cool Cam in it, you know, make
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some power and sound, cool, but Factory, Pistons Factory, all
the bottom of it was Factory. Why didn't you ever do any
internal stuff, getting a deck or bored out eight years ago?
And I made it and have to do allthat and like, it just always
worked. So, solid Point.
Yeah, I need to be faster that he will go from pumpkin.
Like, you know, there's like stages strategy years where it
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just kept raising, and power andwas fine.
So, do you think it's even possible to stay competitive
with, you know, just an NA LS with a supercharger like that
exact setup. Do you think it's even possible
to be as competitive as you needto?
Be informal address set up now. Yeah, like in today's, I mean it
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The current Trend in Prospect isif you're not in that, you know.
700 horsepower, give or take 100horsepower, range and you're not
you're gonna fall but behind youknow, if you have a 500
horsepower, car you going against these guys with 700 800,
even some of them have 1,000 like they're even like you know
ProBuild so you are gonna you are gonna fall behind.
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I mean if you can drive at 10 out of 10 every time and maybe a
higher horsepower car only drives 8 out of 10, you might be
able but you know, competitions just increasing, you know,
that's fair. And it's crazy to see what's
coming of it especially well I know I say it all the time but
the same drivers and stuff too, just add right on top of it.
The skill level. On top of the horsepower level
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is just making it the barrier toentry.
Through the roof like it's so fucking hard saying, right?
Yeah. So The cars, never fast enough.
It's never like, right, like Thethese kids are coming in are
like, I'm like an old man in FD now.
Yeah. Right.
Like they're just getting younger.
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Like the social media world is awhole nother level of
competition, which is ridiculousbetween all the different
platforms and stuff and then theactual competition on track, you
know, oh now we actually get to like show up on track and drive
and they're competition's crazy.So yeah, so much to the job.
That's not just driving. Yeah, that people just don't
really see like they see it but they don't comprehend that,
that's part of the job. Yeah, so all the meet and greets
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and all the, all the older extracurriculars that are happening
at the event. It's all part of it.
Keeping up face when I was chasing after you, when I was
like, yeah, I want to do this and stuff and I was tired to
become an FD driver, like, it used to be achievable to be a
normal person and Go into FD, right?
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But now it is definitely coming to a budget thing and I I'm
always said it wasn't but it's it is changing like you know,
you really need like a lot of money now.
Where you didn't before in what ways though, exactly.
Because like, obviously media standpoint that's a given
nowadays. But like, what are the things
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that people don't normally mention that has to do with that
budget? Like some of these younger
drivers? I mean, I don't I don't know
that they've ever worked, you know, a career or like a real
like job. So young that like you know
their Fearless right. They have all this seek time on
simulator and you know whatever seat time they have before FD
and how they appropriately got their license and stuff.
But there's no Financial restraints, you know?
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Like you know, when I first started in FD, like we all like
Diddy and also worked like really hard to say about money
to buy these tires. Right?
We didn't have to worry about having tires being available to
us, like, right. Like it's just different like
and like you said and then as the media side, so all the media
representation that you need in order to have a professional
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appearance in the in a official Motorsport like that.
Yeah, I mean a lot of it's just There's a lot of financing that
you need. Now that you didn't before.
Yeah. Do you think it's necessary,
though? Do you think like drifting needs
all of that? Because in my eyes, I see that.
FD needs to start becoming on the same level as F1 as far as
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marketing standpoint goes and like just the overall run event.
We're branding it as a formula brand.
Yeah. So, but it does like it
obviously does not match. So like are those particular
aspects of it that make it a little bit harder needed?
Because it creates more of a fomo factor?
Or is it something that hinders the sport?
(41:52):
So Formula Drift wants to get bigger in my opinion.
They need these young athletes to come in.
I mean, you could compare to anyother athletic sport on the
planet. Like the, the athletes in any
sport are just getting younger, right?
We are conditioning children too.
Start picking up a skateboard atAge 2 now.
Right? Like, I'm just saying, You know,
so you're going to not even braining yet like come on and
(42:15):
you're going to need that Finance.
You're gonna need to unlimited financial support, whether you
have sponsors or not because youare going to need to not be.
You're gonna you can't have any restrictions right, right?
We can't be restricted by age. Can't be sure to buy experience.
Can't make restricted by finances or social media, just
anything like you. If you want the sport to grow to
be the biggest it can be. It's going to need that level
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of. In order for it to grow that
way. Absolutely, I would totally
agree. Well, other than that, the
Newfound changes that are happening in FD.
What is your overall perspectiveon it?
How are you handling it? And going about all of this
specifically for like as like for Prospect specifically not
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being able to, you have to petition to get your to stay in
with your license and everything.
If you're under a certain bracket, all of these different
changes that have these make in?Yeah, I mean as far as
Maintaining your license is always been an order of
operation of how they choose that, right?
So there's a five-step, you know, bracket for how they
determine who's going to be in the series and now, When I when
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I first started like that FD, had a hard time filling the Pro
2 or Prospect you don't bracket with drivers, right?
There was only 20 drivers and now that they have a you know
now the FD is growing in the direction that they want to,
they have an abundance of drivers so now they have to be a
little more selective about which drivers they choose and
yeah I think we had what last year's like 40 something
(43:42):
Prospect drivers? Yeah 48 that's insane.
That's waiting. Oh I mean my eyes just depends
on how they're running the you know the program they want to
keep the top 32 bracket like they do for competition.
And yeah that's probably like the most it can ever see I can't
it can't exceed 50 drivers, right doesn't work.
Well, do you think as far as where you sit in that bracket,
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how are you handling? All of this and what is your I
know you probably don't have a definite plan but like what are
you thinking? What are your ideas you're
tossing around. Yeah, so to the viewers you
might be watching who might not know just to be transparent.
I'm not an empty this year. I earned my license five years
ago. I was an FD for four full years
but with the the amount of mechanical issues I had this
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year, I didn't get to drive veryoften and if you're not driving
you're not you're not winning you're not getting any
competition points but even qualifying.
So it's like you know, if you'renot driving you're gonna just
Fall to the bottom of the list and I felt too far to
automatically renew my license and there are too many new
drivers coming in who have earned their license in a Pro-Am
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series or they're an international Petition of that
exceeded my level of being able to come back in.
So obviously, I was not anticipating last year being my
last year and after, but it is my last year because I did lose
that spot. So how am I taking that, right?
Like what am I gonna do? I don't know.
Exactly, I know that I'm not interested in like jumping back
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down in the Pro-Am and trying tocompete to get back in it,
right? Yeah.
FD does take everything and takes everything takes all of
your time. All your money.
Every birthday holiday friendship.
Relationship girlfriend. You know and anything whatever.
It's just it takes all of your time.
Yeah, I didn't perspective too. Like just to barely do any labs
because like you said, they can't call failures are so just
(45:32):
a fact of spinning as much moneyand time and effort just to show
up to that place and not even hardly be able to do a lap.
Is defeating enough. Yeah, it's Tough.
I mean, every race car driver has that one year.
Whether they're like, dude, 2012was horrible.
I'm so glad he was terrible. And that was my year last year.
I didn't know that would be the time of my, my ft career, but
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there's so many more opportunities to do stuff
outside of FD. Like, you, I am talking to you a
good life, like this is great. I don't know that I'd be able to
do this right now if I was stilldoing nothing my car because
Atlanta's just in a few weeks, right?
But I would say that if anyone was aspiring to be an FD driver,
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I would still give them, you know, full support.
And if they had any information,you know, any questions or
anything that I could do to helpthem do that if they're actually
truly cool, passionate about it.Not like, I've had people come
up to me and they're like, dude,I don't want to be an empty
driver like oh sweet. What car do you have?
No, like, I don't have a car andI'm like, oh okay, I don't
really work. I don't like well what what if
you competed in there, like, oh,I've never drifted before and
(46:35):
I'm like, okay, you're a long way dog.
I'm like, okay, okay, this doesn't wrong with that either.
Like having a long way to go is just a part of the ride right
there. Anyone when I was interested in
FD Journey took 10 plus years tomake it happen.
So start earning an actual dollar.
I'm sure. Yeah, I totally get it.
That's cool that you're still like willing to help people and
if they have any advice that they yeah, 100% still give it to
(46:58):
him and stuff as far as like if the opportunity ever did a rise
where maybe rules changed so on and so forth.
Would you ever? Like exercise, the opportunity
to go back to FD at all. If I go back to FD at this
point, I think I would like to come back as a team owner.
Because owner, I found him in myopinion and I have been told by
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others too, but I truly stronglybelieve in my own opinion that
when you are when I was competing with you know, some of
the world's best drivers, right?I'm not maybe the world's best
driver, right? Like I made an FD awesome but
like, it was I Podium every, every round know, I wasn't.
Yeah. But I did learn that I was
exceeding. The marketing side in comparison
(47:43):
to some of my competitors. That's cool, right?
So that team management and owning and operating a team and
then having solidified sponsors and maintaining them and
representing them correctly, in a professional Motors where I
felt like, I did, that way, way,way better than I actually did
the driving. So if that is my strength in
this world that I'm in, I think that if I came back in to the
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prefer, professional series of that world, that I would take on
a different role like that. Awesome.
Yeah. Well long as lines then what
would you say has something you've learned in the marketing
side that has helped you tremendously whether it's
consistency or like, just so specific way to put a video
together or anything like that. Yeah, I mean that's a that's a
that could be its own podcast right answers there.
(48:30):
I mean I all right so as a prospect driver I ended last
year with 21 sponseller sponsorships like whether you're
getting parts and like you're getting in some cases monetary
support. You know.
It's not just like you get 10% off.
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Like yeah. How most people think that's a
sponsorship is not? Yeah I would say I'm more of a
partnership. If you're getting a discount on
parts or something, you have a part I wouldn't even consider it
a partnership. Yeah, I mean it's some kind of
an agreement like you just got adiscount right just to wrap
someone's name for free when I say sponsorship.
I mean, I was actually a page driver like cool.
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And if you're going to detail I just not like if I didn't like
have my most expensive season last year because of all my
mechanical repairs. I had to make, right?
I probably would have like not put out anything to do after And
I don't think a lot of prospect drivers can say that either.
Yeah, so that's good. Oh, I like that.
You've got some some experience with the marketing and I hope to
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see you maybe one day back in FDsomehow, someway, whatever way
that ends up being but you thinkyou'll ever like run the grid
life route the whole you know big fun event route for the time
being is that kind of what your goal is as far as my FD card
goes. I'm probably gonna like Dumb it
down, to make it a more inexpensive to operate.
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I don't need a 700, horsepower car.
Yeah, certain events like this and whatnot.
So if I could dumb it down and make it more inexpensive to
operate, I'd like to be able to use my FD car more fun events.
Like you're talking about also two other drift cars that I can
use, you know. So I this year is a year for me
to restructure my my own programas far as my fleet and being
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able to do the events that I want to do and and as I do those
events, I think it will, it willshow me where I want to put my
fourth, my time and my energy, and absolutely, I think you'll
fall a little better and stuff like this, if you are starting
to get the feel of marketing as much as you say.
Yeah, this will be a way better opportunity.
I think. So, I'm excited to see what
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happens. And yeah, man, you have any like
I guess events that you're coming up on, you want to
announce ring, anything like that, you I'm still trying to
figure out what it is. I'm doing my own adrift
experience. This is something where, you
know, I've built a car where if you wanted to go see what the
drift, you know, you just sign up.
(51:00):
I give you the keys and you get to drive the whole time and I
sit in the passenger seat and I coach, you abilities to the
best. You can be in our session where
can people sign up for that? They can Hit the link in my bio.
All right, my website's Jack motorsports.com.
But if you can't remember, I just go to my any of my BIOS.
(51:21):
My pages, you'll be able to findit super easy, but I sell out
every year and now that I'm not an idea, I could do more of that
and, you know those events bringin come in.
Yeah, yeah. All the events I used to do.
I used to take all the money. Yeah, dude.
That's the bread and butter. That's what you mark it out.
I would love to do more more of those and then just do more fun
events and and I think I'll be very very busy this year.
(51:44):
Just figuring all those out. Awesome, dude.
Well I look forward to seeing itand yes, thanks again for
stopping by. Thanks so cool.
Let's talk about you for hot second here.
This is awesome. You got this mobile setup,
obviously, it's your business isincreasing, which is awesome.
I see that you're going away. More events, you know, as each
year goes right. That's awesome.
(52:05):
Like you're gonna be going to all the good life this year.
Is that the plan? Yeah, it's like it and then are
you And what other events are you looking to do this year?
So obviously, you know, you've got possibly LS Fest.
I was just talking to Swan aboutdoing that.
See, that's what I wanted to do.I've never done LS that really
right? And I can do that if I want to.
(52:26):
Oh yeah, you got very excited while Texas is really wild too.
I finally got to go to one of those last year.
And that was really cool but I'mobviously doing like a bunch of
events, like East 10 and fuel Fest for Media stuff for some
drivers and yeah, I've got No ironed out schedule, okay?
But like Everything's revolving around gridlife, okay?
(52:49):
That's that's the concept of this year.
That's good, that's good. I like that.
So. Yeah, dude.
Does seven rounds are not aroundseries.
What's how? Many events for good life for
good? I think it's Five or six.
Okay. Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, man, it's cool. So, dude, thanks for having me
back. It's always good to see you.
(53:28):
A movie. You can watch it.
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