April 20, 2025 • 48 mins
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(00:00):
Welcome back to the Circle of Drift podcast presented by SIM
HQ, where we interview some of the most interesting
personalities within the industry.
My name is Dawson and today we have on none other than TJ Hunt
where we chat about whether it'sgood or bad to start with an
angle kit. Drive a car that is set up to do
what you're trying to do his. Super that Drift HQ is building.
I mean it's pretty much Adam's E36.
(00:21):
Exactly the setup in the 36 as a90.
Is venture into rush cars you'll.
Be surprised on how we up your body gets in that damn.
Yeah, it is a. Full body workout.
Some possible future drift teams?
Seeing Red Bull presented the way it is in FD adds a lot of
value in my opinion. Is like slowly taking the steps
(00:43):
up the ladder to make another player like RTR in the sport.
And maybe one day TJ Hunt in Formula Drift.
So when the right opportunity presents itself, I'd love to
drive FD. As of right now, I'm having so
much fun in so many other areas that I also like I I'm enjoying
doing. I don't want to pigeon myself
just when there could be other opportunities with a farther.
Road and a lot more while we satdown at grid life in South
(01:05):
Carolina. So don't forget to hit that
subscribe button below the videoand without further ado I've
been wanting this forever I've been in the field wherever they
throw at me brush it off pick myself up moving on a little
better. Hey, ain't no errors baby.
It's a new error. All right, dude, we'll got TJ DJ
(01:26):
Hunt starting off with a banger.So how are you doing this
weekend? We'll start there.
Yeah, doing good. So we're doing rush racing it's
we were had a pretty bad day yesterday just like in practice
just couldn't figure it out. I've had a pretty good amount of
seat time in these cars, but dueto some practice and I was the
slowest guy out of our I was just not, I was not driving
(01:49):
well. Had a lot of problems with our
brake pressure and locking up. And then did qualifying got like
15th or 16th. What's not bad, not where we
wanted to be right? And then yesterday it started
pouring before race 1. So everyone's like they deemed
it a wet race. So we're like, what do you want
to do? You want to do drives, want to
do wets, want to do drives, wantto do wets.
(02:11):
We last minute decided to put onthe wet tires.
OK. And miss the start of the race.
No shit. Because we were doing the last
minute tire change. Oh.
That's what Grant was talking. About so we went out to grid and
the pace car. When it's raining we'll do 2
laps before the rolling start. We missed both laps.
(02:32):
They put me in false grids, started the race, they started
green flag, waited 1/2 lap and they sent me out.
Oh my God. But then we passed like we ended
up passing like 20 people and ended up in P8.
What the? Fuck yeah.
So. Dude, that's impressive.
Yeah, I had AI had the I think like the fourth or fifth fastest
lap time in wet and I don't, I think I just found my comfort
(02:54):
with the car finally. And we had a race last year, WRL
CODA, which is 8 hour enduro, and it was pouring all weekend.
Oh, that was some good. The Miata we had, there was no
ABS, there was no anything. So I got to just.
How comparable is a Miata to those cars?
Very different. Obviously people compare them as
far as. So different.
So the rush cars, although they're like, you know, joked as
(03:15):
the Miata, the prototype car, everything is different.
There is. No.
Is it technically too chassis? It is, yeah.
OK. But just like you know,
production cars have so much weight, even with downforce and
cages and all this stuff, there's so much body role to the
GT4 chassis and production car chassis compared to prototypes.
(03:36):
Prototypes are much, in my opinion, much more raw and have
way, way stiffer. So it's just a completely
different driving style. That's crazy.
You can't trail break in these cars out.
All you trail break you pretty much spin out.
Ask me how I know. I do it all the time.
So yeah, we had, I mean, yesterday was a great finished
(03:56):
P8 and the Sunoco team, it's Nate and six me and eight, like
Shanks and nine and Grand 10. So we all, all of us started in
the back of the race. That's.
So and we all like caught up andjust like I think the help of
drifting being. Okay, so that's what I was about
to ask is like seeing all of youguys jumping from drifting into
(04:16):
this rush stuff it you're like blowing people out of the water
as far at not that sounds bad, but like as far as the time it's
taking you to catch up yeah is so much faster than just someone
getting into rush from the. Jump.
I would argue that's pretty true.
Is it all because of drifting? I think.
So I think it's just being so comfortable with oversteer and
(04:39):
understeer, right? And being comfortable with
proximity because when you're Rd. racing here and you're going
in the corners at 130, you will lose a lot of time if you are
not comfortable braking and staying 6 inches from your rear
bumper and monitoring that brakepresser.
So I think that has a lot to help.
(05:00):
And then really just being able to, you know, and drifting, it's
you learn very quickly as you'rerolling into a turn, even if
you're not initiating where thatrear is going to step out.
Right when you go into a corner with high speed as a drifter,
you have that like sixth sense of like if I get one mile per
hour more, the rear is stepping out or hey, my fronts aren't
(05:23):
warm enough, I'm gonna start understeering.
So I'm having. A balance of.
Knowing your front and your rears and where the slip points
are I think carries over a lot when it comes to Rd. racing
where a lot of guys you know, they step out, they freak and
you know, so I. Talked about that a lot to.
Slip the rear end out on some ofthese corners.
It's faster to have your rear, is it not?
(05:44):
Drowning. Well, we're.
Not out there trying to drift. If you're drifting, you'll be
slower. But that's not to say that in
certain sections we're playing with stepping out.
Sometimes it's faster to take the inside line and fight grip a
little bit than it is take the outside line just because on
these sweeps you'll shave off 180 feet just on like a couple
(06:06):
turns if you take the inside line even when there's no grip.
What? OK, So whenever you do have to
play that game where you step itout a little bit, is it not more
Jurassic given that the wheelbase is so much shorter and
something like that very. Snappy, these are not like drift
cars, so you and that's where that I think the drift
experience comes in is, you know, I'm not going to speak for
everybody, but from what I've gathered is that, you know, when
(06:28):
these cars step out, it can be quite alarming because it's very
quick to over rotate it's like, you know, you hear people
drifting Miatas and they're tough because of that wheelbase
and these are even shorter See, it's definitely a fine line, but
having the experience of drifting and when you do step
out and being like, oh relax, like you just stay in it and
(06:50):
correct or feather off a little bit, get your weight set and
then get back on throttle. I mean, it's like second nature
for us. And that's what we always laugh
about. Or like, you know, we'll be in
practice or qualifying or in a race and we do an accidental
drift and then we'll meet with some guys and they're like,
whoa, we're hot dogging out there.
I'm like, yeah, brother. That's crazy.
We're like the wild guys. Yeah, that, yeah, we're known as
(07:13):
like the hot doggers out there, but it's hard to dial that back
because you know that's going tomake you slower.
But in some cases it does happen.
And if you can, save yourself with it.
Absolutely, Yeah. Yeah.
Well, do you see yourself venturing more down the rush
side of things rather than drifting nowadays, or is it
going to be a good even balance?I, I don't know, I've, I've
(07:34):
always, and I've said this flat out, I always thought like Rd.
racing and grip driving was the lamest thing in the world.
Like I've had zero interest in it for the last 10 years.
And I was like, drifting is where it's at.
We were excitement, the thrill doesn't match.
And I think that's because all Ihad really done was like HPDE
with whatever car I had. And you're out there by yourself
(07:57):
setting the lab time down, driving a car that's not set up,
driving a car, not actually looking at data and figuring out
like what you can do where I came out.
And I drove one of these rush cars for the first time last
year on track with like HamiltonForsberg and whomever was there.
And once you learn to drive a car and you go 4 wide into a
(08:20):
corner at 130 down to 30 miles an hour in like a second and
you're battling and we're bumping and you're overtaking.
And if someone's going too deep and you're over under.
I did one like practice day withthem and I was like, this is the
most fun I've ever had driving in my life.
And whereas this weekend, for example, we're going to get any
(08:43):
three hours of driving time, that's insane, where win or
lose, you got 3 hours of drivingtime, there's still 3 hours of
thrill of passing, people getting past, going back to the
trailer, looking at your deltas,looking at your brake pressure,
looking at your zones and being like analytically, let's change
this and let's see the improvement on the next run.
(09:04):
Yeah, we're in drifting. You go to a comp, a high level
comp, let's say like you know, hot pit or like clutch kickers,
right? Practice is much larger in those
events. But even still, the last hot pit
round, I think we got 9 or 8 practice laps before going into
(09:25):
quality. That's good, yeah.
Which? Was solid and then you know
quali and then top 32 you could go home after sub 5 minutes of
time and you're still. And drifting is more expensive
than rush. Is it really?
The rush car takes the cost per hour is less than AK1 speed go
(09:46):
Kart. The car itself is like 4550
grand but the cost per hour. How much do you spending per
round? Here, Yeah, well, I, I can't, I
can't answer that for myself because I do an arrive and drive
program. Fair.
Fair. So it's different.
But I mean, let's just say you buy a rush car for 50 grand.
You come here, we'll go through one or two sets of tires, you
(10:07):
have a spare set of reins, assuming you don't blow anything
up. That's a pretty cheap.
Weekend, I mean, you're going tobuy your entry just like any
other drifter here and fuel. You go through fuel, yeah, but I
mean. There's a lot more maintenance
that comes along with those, I mean.
What can't be spent in what you spend in 14 tires to come out
(10:29):
here is definitely more than what you're going to spend if
you don't break anything on the Rush car, Yeah.
Especially what makes. Those so awesome yeah is it's a
great spec level entry to get into at an affordable cost.
I mean spec Miata is more than that is.
It. Really.
Yeah dude, some spec Miata cars are.
Expensive. Oh I mean I've seen some of them
(10:52):
that get pretty wild, but I wouldn't guess it'd be more than
those. Like those things just seem so
simple. There are some that are wild.
Yeah. So I mean, it's, I've had a lot
of thrill with it. And, you know, I when we did our
first, like, practice day, they were like, hey, that's some
pretty notable time for someone who's never had any experience.
And yeah, I think I equate it back to drifting and it's being,
(11:13):
you know, the love for cars, playing video games like all of
us. Yeah, I think a lot of people
drifting would naturally do wellin the right environment.
Have you used, I assume SIM to adapt to all this stuff a lot
better, Right? Yeah.
I mean, I've done more in car than SIM stuff, but a seto has
(11:35):
you can download a rush car. Rush car has all their like
preset cars that you can properly like.
That's pretty. Play with them and get to know
them a little bit, but. I'm not the download on that
myself, yeah. It's it's wild.
And you'd be really surprised onhow much of A people often goes,
those are like big go karts. I'm like, brother, they're not
like go. Karts a little bit more than
that. Yeah, so their gigs are 1000
(11:56):
engines and they weigh 1200 lbs and it's air shifted. 1200 OK,
so we were actually talking about that.
We were guessing it was at leastunder a 1000.
Are there some of them that are possibly or are they all right
about 1200? So we all have to weigh in on
impounds. So I mean, it's all spec class,
so you have to be in your set weight.
Everyone's within the same limit.
(12:17):
Yeah. So they're like 12 I.
Don't know enough about 10 lbs. And, you know, they move.
I mean, we our lap time, our fastest guy Blair set a 138 one,
which is the same time as the C eights out there driving when
they're in the advance, the advance track.
It's not the ZO6, but see those big everyone has C eights out
here driving with the big wings just as fast and we're and we're
(12:41):
running 4 deep into turn 1. So like.
Turn 1's tight. It is so much more aggressive.
No ABS, no power steering, no trash control.
It's 100% raw. We'll pull 2 GS into the corners
and the wheel resistance force. When I did my first practice
day, my whole body was wrapped. You almost.
(13:02):
Like passed out from the G force.
No, I mean, it's not. It's not that aggressive, but
you'll be surprised on how beat up your body gets in that.
Damn, it is a. Full body workout.
We're constantly being reminded on comms to breathe, breathe,
breathe, stop holding your breath, and we'll go back and
watch data or watch like a heartrate monitor.
(13:24):
Well, there's some corners. I don't breed for three corners.
That's crazy that you even have that type of analytics to dial.
Is in the drifting side, Sure, there is data, yeah, RTR and all
those guys, they're 100% lookingat data, right?
But the amount of data you get on road racing is personally
like nothing I've ever seen. So what?
(13:45):
OK, So what analytics are you actually looking at on the most?
Regular basis anything so everything is tracked by GPS and
we have in car video. So you can you can watch your
line, you can see your about perhour at any point on the track
and we can compare it with all of our drivers.
We can take our fastest guy Blair and we'll I just finished
my session. We go over or we'll do both of
(14:07):
ours, our data and we can literally look at brake
pressure. We can look at breaking point
that we can look at all on graphs.
We can look at how much acceleration we're giving, how
much throttle we're getting. We can look at the G's are
pulling, we can look at anythingwearing car video.
I mean literally any piece of information that you want to see
you can look at. And you'd be shocked on how much
(14:28):
faster you get just by really taking the changes and going and
applying it or even just on breaking.
I mean that's the hardest thing with CMP breaking zones on 1/8
and like 13. Why, if you can?
What makes them complicated I guess.
Just you're going fast man, likegoing 130 and bringing your
(14:49):
wheel speed down to exactly like50 mph at the right.
And that's like if you. Nail that correctly, you won't
fly off track. If you take that 5 feet too
deep, you're off in the woods. So just like you know, that's
where I feel what we're noticingon our data is like if you guys
can just tighten up, we will go watch the video.
Be like you see that patch of sand?
(15:10):
That's our break point. Or if you're too scared, do a
half Mississippi before that breaks sand and I need 95%
throttle break pressure for a second and then we need like 60%
or else you're going to lock up.How do you remember this stuff?
You'd be surprised when you're out there turning lap.
After lap, after lap, after lap,after lap.
You know, cuz there's how I findit is there's like certain
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sections where you're like, I'm good, we go to the data, I'm
like I'm flowing, it clicks. And there's other sections where
you're like every time I hit it,I'm like, so you're really just
remembering like for me it's 18 and I think 12 in my head, I
know I'm going 300 sand 300, which means I'm going down the
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one I'm going to stop at the I'mgoing to start 95% brake
pressure at 300, bleed off. And then I know that my sand is
coming down on 8. The brake markers have been
destroyed, so we have no break markers there.
But there's a patch of sand right when the downhill
compresses to the uphill, there's a patch of sand that
we're watching. So if you can go 300 sand,
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you'll carry great. You'll all shave a second and a
half on this next session. And then on my last one, going
down the kink and then you go down, you make the left hand
decrease radius. There's a 300 marker that if you
do 10 feet past 300, you're in the woods.
So stay at 3. And for me, if I can remember
that this next session, I know doing it perfect, I'd save, I'd
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shave 2 seconds, but I'll probably shave at least a half
second right on this next session by applying those
changes, looking at data again and being like, OK, we're there,
I'll take it now. I'll take it a half second or a
thousandth of a second part of it.
So like that's. A lot of big brain stuff, man,
that's crazy. It comes so naturally once you
get there. Like I think some people watch
it and they're like, whoa, like that's so hard.
(17:00):
And it's not easy, but you'd be surprised when you when you love
it. Oh yeah, I'm sure it clicks like
you're in the driver seat. Pretty.
Quickly but. From an outsider perspective, it
is nothing but impressive. Yeah, it's definitely a lot, but
it's more, I think it's more doable than other than people
would think. And that's the whole point of
rush is to get people in cars atan affordable price.
(17:20):
Now they just released their SRXturbo twice the horsepower,
twice the price of course, and that's not really like, but it's
like the Sr. is more like budgetin mind, keep it affordable.
And the SRX which is the turbo is like better ECU, better PDM,
way more control DRS. Yeah, more extreme class.
(17:40):
Way bigger body, same wheelbase,but and they're wicked.
I mean, they I don't want to saywhat they beat and I don't know
if they released stuff, but I mean it's beat things that are
triple its price, prototype carsand you're like.
That hurts. Yeah, and the guys that built
that, they're like, it's wicked.They haven't even let me drive
it yet. Damn dude, so you have to let me
know how it is when you do. Yeah, I'm, I'm hyped.
(18:00):
I'm hyped. That's all.
I'm going to be running it. I think in Atlanta, cool.
It's going to be 5 or 6 guys running the SRX turbo.
I'll be there, so we'll have to run this back and dude.
Yeah, they were. Had it at the Sunoco pump party
last night and they were revvingit and you can hear all like the
turbo surge. It's sick.
It's super sick. They slapped a turbo on a Jigsaw
1000 engine. It's dope.
It's really cool. Cowboys, man.
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Yeah. Hell yeah.
Well, other than the rush stuff,how is the drifting side of
things going? I know you've still got Selena
around. Yeah, yeah.
And all that drive one there next.
Week and a hop at Round 2. Sick OK?
Is the C6 OK? C6 Epic.
OK we wrecked in the back of Trenton Round 1.
He had a car malfunction and just went into him at 70 mile an
hour on outer bank one. So we got all that fixed up.
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So right now we have 3 chassis we're running.
We have the C6, which is really a drift weak car.
It's a party car, right? It's LS3 big flowy heads, stock
internals makes 5540NA and we have a 175 shot for it that we
have that we didn't run for a hot pit.
And then we have our 350 Selena,which is a proper pro spec car.
(19:05):
Just scooch did the whole thing.It's like a very adequately like
it's a great weapon in pro spec Absolutely as is not changed
nothing about it. Then we have our a 90 build
which Drift HQ is about to finish which is pretty much a
pro on car. OK.
Is there anything that you can let us know about the Super yet?
(19:25):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it'll. Be a couple weeks.
Yeah, I mean it's Drift HQ dropped a video on it.
I mean, it's pretty much Adam's E36.
OK, exactly the setup in the 36 as a 90.
Oh, that's going to be a weapon for.
You yeah, it's going to be nasty.
So it's, you know, like to the T, everything that's on that car
other than the ECU, we're going Hal tech is the same car.
(19:46):
Sick man so that'll be really good for you yeah, it's it on
the drifting side of things it has been impressive to see the
growth that you've had I mean you've you've developed as a
driver very rapidly and a competitive one at.
That Thank you. Yeah, it's wild.
That's all. Credit goes to my stock 70Z that
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I had just an angle kit in the hydro and he won four podiums in
hot pit against FT chassis and then any other comp we've gone
to. I mean just that car alone, I
recently sold it. We have like 14 podiums in.
That's insane A. Year and a heavily under powered
car. Oh yeah, only it was stock
(20:30):
engine. We ran nitrous at hot pit and it
was a 75 shot. The car was down on power.
It made like 370 wheel stock gearbox wise.
Fab dual caliper. How do you keep up in a car like
that? Momentum.
That's what I feel like made me a better driver is learning to
keep up with margaritas in his 750 Pro 2 car, or driving with
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Rome and Sally or driving with Trent or driving with and these
guys, like in all the driving I've been doing with LZ and
Chelsea. And I've been had the
opportunity to be driving with some of the best guys in the
world for years. And doing that in a car that's
under powered has allowed me to undo everything I learned and
(21:18):
drive with momentum. Yeah, explain that though.
What do you mean moment? Because obviously people will
hear that, but they don't quite understand, especially if
they're new. So my second gear wheel speed in
the Z, it was 64 mph. OK, set it and forget it.
Couldn't grab third in that car.The gearing ratio is too long.
So thankfully for everything we did, we could get away with
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about 64 mile an hour wheel speed.
But what we did to cheat it is we used a Nitto G to 255-4518.
We had the tallest sidewall possible, so we were getting
maximizing our chassis speed. Once you did that, you know
you're going to have to sacrifice angle in certain
areas, but the key is to go in as fast as possible.
Let's say you're following an FDcar on a big outer bank, right?
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He's going to throw massive angle.
So we're going to shallow up a little bit, be in the pocket,
sacrifice where you need to for the proximity.
That's what the judges wanted itfor, a hot pit.
And you cannot waver. If you make any corrections in
chase, you're gapped, right? So it's really about being in
the right place at the right time.
And timing has to be damn near perfect so you don't get gapped
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in the chase. So driving with momentum means
high speed, minimal correction. And if you can pull that off, it
looks pretty damn good. And then in your chase, you just
run your bro line, you run the big angle, use everything you
got and then you have someone that's gripped up 700 horsepower
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behind you. They're.
Going to have the time chasing you.
So it's a double edged sword, right?
But I got I I got really damn well at driving that car and won
a lot of events with it. Yeah, you know, in between I was
still driving my Selena car, which is a pro spec car, and I
was doing all the grid lives. But the equative, the amount of
driving we did in two years was,yeah, insane.
(23:12):
I get it man. And that's, that's what I meant
too. As far as like the progression
and stuff, it's I think the Supra is really going to allow
you to drive at your full potential.
I agree. And we drove the Z last year at
the last round of drift league, which was the California Pro
Spec League. We finished second overall, but
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we drove the Z every round that year.
There's three rounds. First round I took myself out.
Disappointing, but we landed in like 7th or 8th or something and
then we got podium to the secondround, or we got first place at
the second round and then secondplace or third place at the
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third round. And we were short 10 points from
getting the license. But the Z is super competitive
and super great, and being able to apply the momentum style to
not using the big power to save yourself on all your corrections
just helps. Dial in that slow and dial in
just straight to angle. Set it, forget it.
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It's been a really, really good combo.
Absolutely. Well with all you've learned as
far as car setup, what would yousay is a good basic setup to go
for on almost any? I have a hot send it.
I'm here for it. Yo dude, when's your first
event? I think it's in, like, I think
(24:39):
it's in two weeks, something like that.
But dude, have you even ordered tires yet?
Oh, my God, you're right, dude. Thanks for that reminder.
I got to do that. Yeah, no problem, man.
Have you tried the Zek Nova's yet?
I mean, I've been tossing aroundthe idea of doing that, but I
think realistically, I'm just going to buy some cheap Walmart
tires like I usually do. No.
OK, No, we're not doing that. You've had plenty of seat time
(25:00):
by now. You need proper tires.
But what do you mean proper tires?
Well, what I mean by proper tires is like better grip, more
consistency, longer life, and asweird as it sounds, even smells
better. But bro there's so much more
expensive. No no no no no.
Just use the circle drift code. It's like 20% off yo.
Wait really? But what?
What do I do for the next event?Well then just use it again.
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Off when I first started drifting and on YouTube and like
you know everyone's very quick to to talk shit where they can.
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Yep, I remember getting flames for getting my 350Z and then
immediately throwing a PBM anglekit on it.
OK everyone's like OK you're learning to drift.
You should learn to drift with no angle.
Learn the car first, don't get angle and then start to learn.
With certain cars, I will say I I somewhat agree with that.
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So disagree with that. But why I so disagree with that?
Because we're drifting. Yeah, right.
You would agree we're drifting. So if you're drifting, do you
want to go drive my rush car to drift?
No. Yeah, he has no angle.
Exactly because it's not set up to do that yeah.
So when you're learning to drift, I'd rather and I, I help
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this everyone drive and look at him.
He's cheering on the background.Drive a car that is set up to do
what you're trying to do and I. Totally, I don't think.
It's going to handicap you. I don't, I just, I don't believe
that. I don't believe that learning to
drive with a lot of angle is going to hit is going to make
you worse. A lot of guys will argue this.
In my experience when I've seen even friends that drive all my
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stock, I had so many friends drove my 370 C and they'll go
and drive or we go to Ebisu and we bring friends out and we rent
cars and there's guys that are learning on a stock angle Ebisu
car and the guys are looking on like the JCXS with the angle
kit. Yeah.
And we got to test it and to seelike who does better throughout
the day. Yeah, I don't know.
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I think people are watching drifting.
So they're seeing angle and they're seeing this.
And then you go and you mimic that in a stalk angle car and
you keep over rotating and you can't do this and that.
I just go. And learn.
OK, so here's here's my rebuttalto that based off of what you
said. Learning to drive with momentum
was the best thing that could have helped you.
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Learning to drive a car with little angle, it helps you learn
momentum more because you have to learn that the faster that
you go compensates for the lack of angle.
I'm not saying go get a 500 horsepower, I like myself.
I wrote my car and right right and it screwed me.
That's too far. But I don't think getting an
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angle kit is too far when it comes to a starter build drift
car. No, I totally agree.
I just, I wanted to see what theYeah.
I mean, dude, I don't know. I.
Argue with it. I have this everyone at the
shop, Dylan and everyone they'relike, Nope, disagree with you
couldn't disagree more. Learn on a stock angle car and
I'm like. I would still highly suggest for
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personally starting with smallerangle.
Maybe if you do get an angle kit, maybe get a, you know, an
FDF mini kit or something like that.
Sure. And I start basically settle
there. Maybe you don't.
Understand the car. The like don't, maybe don't go
get a wide spab right off the bat.
But I had a friend ask me, I would say yeah.
If you got the money for it, by all means absolutely do whatever
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you want to start with. Let's say money is not a factor,
then yeah. And I'm like, you're like, I
don't know how to drip. What do I get?
Like go get a 370Z, throw an angle kit of your choice on it,
throw in a hydro and go up solid.
Yeah, I yes, I understand throwing more angles going to
slow the momentum down. But I would also say, hey cool,
you saw how much angle you saw what happens when you throw too
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much angle? Now go in and lessen the wheel
speed or stay on the gas and unwind the wheel a little bit
and look at where your projectoris going.
Absolutely. I just I know, so I get it.
Throw go into a stock car and they're just like just can't get
it. I just, it doesn't work and I'm
like, go drive my Z and I'm like, go do figure eights, you
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know, like that was easy. Yeah, I'm like, oh, weird.
A car that's set up to do what you're trying to ask it to do
works. That's crazy.
Well, no, no more arguments on that.
Don't go do what I. Did and Jay-Z swap in do like a
you know, CDO 9 adapter and overbuild your car?
How much did you spend on that car in the beginning when you
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first did all that? Wait, wait.
Nate, Nate, Nate. Come here.
Come here. Come here.
Hot take. Come join it.
We're going to enter. Yeah, yeah.
We need your opinion on this. OK.
In your opinion, someone that's new to drifting, should they
learn to drive on a stock angle car or a car with an angle kit?
Stock angle, I knew it you're. So wrong what so wrong?
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No, no. No, no.
The harder the harder it is in the beginning, the more you
learn and then the easier it gets later.
So this this was my argument. He's talking about momentum.
Drifting was probably the best thing that he could learn.
You learn that more with less angle.
Well, having less angle will like like.
It'll teach you how to drive with more momentum.
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You have to learn your line likehaving wise facts.
Sorry man, the beginning is lostin this.
We're also talking to TJ Hunt here.
No, I know, right? I approve.
Get the get the get the angle kit.
Keep. Keep.
You got to come back to, by the way.
Low horsepower. Get the angle kit, learn to
drive it. I don't think it's gonna make it
any worse. Yeah, they'll let us know in the
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comments. I'm sure I wave this flag and
everybody tells me I'm wrong, but I.
Am stay true to it. I'm cool with that.
Mad respect. Drifting stock angle is, so I'm
not dejecting, but people see itlike, I don't want to do that.
Yeah. And then they go and they try it
and they're like, that was whack.
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Yeah, I see it deterring people from.
I tried to determine. The stock angle car and I can't
even do it. So I'm like.
Maybe because you didn't learn in the stock?
Yeah, but I didn't learn to start.
Maybe that's why I hate it so much.
But I mean, G there's like G KG K tech makes like a a mini kit.
FDF makes a mini kit. The bolt on stuff or cut
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knuckles or whatever. I think adding a little bit of
adding angle is a great place tolearn.
As long as you don't just say and I'm going to throw 1000
horsepower at it. That's going to be you're going
to end up like me and you don't want.
To do that, absolutely. You got any more hot takes for
him? I will say this, I'm really
excited for the sport to grow. Definitely.
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Where other teams can be more like RTR so it not levels the
playing field out. But Vaughn has done such an
amazing job at doing what no one's done before.
And if you watch the James Dean documentary that they released
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like 2 months ago, they show a bunch of the RTR.
And I know he shows all the time, but they show a lot of
like their facility and each carhas its own like stall and white
floors and they're like making like extra carbon fiber parts
and bumper budget and the backing they have.
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Like that's the most admirable, respectable thing.
Like for myself, as I've considered myself an
entrepreneur, a business. I watch what they do and I'm
like. It makes you feel small real
quick. It's just amazing, like the work
it takes to balance the amount of partners they have in the
relationships with the OES and make that happen is insanely
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difficult, but also gives them such an advantage.
And I can't wait for other people to figure out to do what
Vaughn did. Yeah, let me ask you this.
Completely level that like bringthe whole playing field and
there's other people who are on the way.
You know, Papadakis runs an amazing name.
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There's a lot of amazing programs out there.
But the RHR program is in America is absolutely the most
impressive and the best thing I've ever seen.
I would agree with that. What would you say if there was
a possibility of Shelby America joining FD on almost the same
scale? Like as a separate program.
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There is word. I had an interview with one of
the drivers that they're in the talks of possibly doing it and
it's like public info, like people can know about it.
But yeah, I would be very interested to see how that
plays. Out, yeah.
I mean, I, I, I think that FD would greatly benefit from more
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Bonds and I, that's a hard ask. Bond's been in it since the very
beginning, and he's been workingthese relationships and he's
done an amazing job at composinghimself and building the brand
and making the relationship. If there was another player to
step in from an audience perspective, I want to see them
meet their match. Yeah.
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And Papadakis, I would say, is like.
It would only make things. Better the Osbos, the Turks, But
you know, having Dean, having Vaughn, LZ, Ben, you know,
people want to drive for them. Oh yeah, And imagine another
player. Just within the news.
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Coming in and being like, I'm going to put a sign up sheet on
everyone from drift masters. That's the best.
Do you want to come sign this? Oh, and not to and not to leave
out Shanahan. I'm leaving out probably a lot
of drivers. Yeah, right.
The Shanahan's are now, you know, Connor's on his own
program. I don't know if Jack is, I
don't. I don't know if they're moving
together. But I don't think so fully.
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Yeah, like having. Connor here running Red Bull
like he's doing. It's going to be epic for
Formula J seeing. Red Bull presented the way it is
in FD adds a lot of value in my opinion and is like slowly
taking the steps up the ladder to to to make another player
like RTR in the sport. Am I forgetting anyone?
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Can you think of like another program that's even close to
that budget size? Close to that size, no.
I mean in FD, no. Yeah, there isn't 1.
Like that's what excites me. Worth House was.
But they're not there anymore. They're not here anymore.
Yeah, yeah, I would say like, that's a great comparable.
And I don't know, like really ifthey are like I, but I just when
I watched that documentary, I was like this.
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And then you see and then you see.
Some guys that are like, like, one of my favorite drivers, Jeff
Jones, yeah, you see him in his garage by himself pulling the
engine two weeks before FD, adding, you know, putting in a
new clutch, doing this or that, tools all over the floor.
And like, damn, that guy's got passion, soul and heart.
And he's funny as hell. Yeah.
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And then you just see like someone at that level.
Yeah. And then you watch that
interview and you're like, what?Wow, so it's such a large gap
and the same field gap, same field.
Huge gap and I can't wait until that gap.
Compresses. Compresses and watch the level
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of driving go through the roof and I think it's going to take a
long time. Do you ever see yourself putting
yourself in the mix of all that?Yeah, so many times, man.
Yeah, so many times. Well, you've obviously got the
cars progressing that way, so. We were, I'm planning to do pro
spec this year and there's just so much else going on.
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I assume it's hard. It's so many other events that
we're doing and I, I haven't decided within me if I want to
do it, if I don't want to do it.What holds you from IT
personally, not business. Wise, I think it's, I think
truthfully one, it's a lot of money.
But that aside, the amount of time it's going to dedicated to
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doing that versus everything else that I want to do.
I've recently done a lot of Rd. racing and I want to dip my toes
in the GT4. There's some other aspirations I
have towards Rd. racing and FD. Even at pro spec is 4/4 weeks a
year which isn't a lot but it's also a five day span.
I'm getting there registration, practice, practice, drive and
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then pro one times that by 8. I don't think people, maybe
people do, maybe people don't. It's a travelling circus.
It is a full if you want to be good.
It is a full time commitment. Absolutely.
You know, Adam doing what he does is like one of the many
reasons to why, like I admire what he does so much because I
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know that man's brain and I knowhis travelling schedule to be
the FD Circus, the LZ circus to oh, I'm going and driving in.
I don't know how we go this. Weekend for a couple of days and
finding a car and oh I'm now going to like he does an amazing
job and that boy drives more than any other person in the
world. So yeah you see it now this year
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but I all I'll say is I've had talks with the right people
they're like you say the name you say the word we'll put you
here but I also really want to like earn my license.
I've never like dedicated a fullseasons.
I'm doing this, I'm doing that, I'm doing this.
Yeah, I do really well, but I'venever like done that.
Let's see a full season. So this year for Hot Pit, we're
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really prioritizing the season. So Round 2 is next weekend at
Kern. We're bringing the 350 out.
We got we took the C6 out, whichis like our party car, yeah, got
7th in the last round and so youknow we're going to bring it and
the 1st place winner gets a fulla straight pass to Pro 1.
You bypass those. Oh, that is right.
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That's hot pits only, right? That's so crazy.
And if let's say like Rome wins every year, hot pit, well, let's
say Rome wins and let's say likeI'm in second it.
Goes you can get it. Yeah, that's cool.
And. It's an FD driver, it goes to
the next person in line. Good.
So I mean, I think we'll see. But what's great about hot Pit
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is it's all FD drivers to bring them out of the field.
They treat it very. They train you well for.
It and they're doing a really good job at it yeah and it's you
know that that only takes 2 daysof our time of actually being
there and I still get to like fill that cup of like
competitive driving that if I dowell it makes me feel good.
I'm not like, yeah, well, you know, I had this car.
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No one else had that. Well, you have the entrepreneur
mindset, so it it feels 100 times better just to earn
something. Than I think when the right
opportunity presents itself, I'dlove to drive FD.
As of right now, I'm having so much fun in so many other areas
that I also like. I I'm enjoying doing that.
I don't blame you. That I don't know, I just I
don't want to pigeon myself, just FD when there could be
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other opportunities with a farther Rd.
Yeah, I get it. And then right now I don't know
if FD is the right time for me also too.
You'll get there. Yeah, and also too.
Maybe one day. The first year of Prospect 2
would be a pretty big wash. Never driving the tracks.
You're going to get four or fivepractice laps.
You're signing. Up to blow money.
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And then you're going to get destroyed because you just don't
know. And then everyone's going to be
like, Oh my God, right. Look, look, look.
So, you know, there's a lot of like, just a lot.
I get it, but it'll be cool to see you in it.
I know I. Know it's coming, it will all
the time, but I would much rather you just keep nicking at
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the things you want to. You're obviously good at it, so
thank you. It's really cool to see.
Is there anything else you want to share on all of this stuff?
Nah. I think, I think I'm pretty
tapped. Start with an angle kit.
Keep stock power. You want to learn how to drift,
go get AC-6. Put an angle kit on it.
Thank me later. Yeah, that's like my new, like,
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cheater chassis. I think it's epic.
I feel that. Dude it was the 370Z.
Yeah, now it's AC 6. I think that's the new meta.
I could agree there's more of them I would say readily
available, maybe not as cheap, but.
Depends if you want the LS2 or LS3.
If you want the LS3 you're goingto get a 2012 and up which are
still like 20 something grand right?
But you can get like an early C6for like 12 grand.
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It's an LS2. It's not the three, but still.
Yeah, pre LS lot. Yeah, pre LS, dude, they're a
nightmare to work on. Yeah, don't get it.
And then be like, this sucks. It sucks to work on that car.
Absolutely doing a clutch job onthat.
See you in a couple days. Dude, I'm good, man.
Yeah, it's I pay somebody to. Do it.
Other than that it was like things are epic.
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Yeah. Well, what's your best advice
for anyone chasing the content route, Entrepreneur route,
anything like that? This is what I'll say is is my
favorite quote. I almost like live by He who
says he can and he who says he can't are usually both right.
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Oh yeah. And you are usually, yeah, your
usual, like, worst enemy. But beyond that, if you truly
love what you're doing, you'll be successful.
I think the opportunity for failure is very, very low.
And what I mean by that is some people get into certain things
or content creation for certain reasons, or they have a buddy
who's like making this much money, or they've seen someone
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get a lucky break and do this. Or, you know, they think it'll
be an easier lifestyle where I just make some videos every day
and hang back. I'm going to do it for those
reasons. I don't think any of those
people can really be successful.At least we're not a sustainable
amount of time. Yep.
But if you love what you're doing so much, the fact that
you'll end up working 1214 hoursa day because you just truly
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love it, you don't want to stop.You'll end up naturally out
working everybody else and putting in way more time and
accelerate yourself so much farther.
And I think when you have that lethal combination of loving
what you're doing and trying to find a way to make a living out
of it, there's almost 0 room forfailure.
I don't think there was a betterway you could have put that.
That's awesome. Yeah, I think everybody has
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luck, but you create your own luck.
It's very like hand in hand and yeah, all people look at me and
be like, yeah, you got lucky this or that.
Like, yeah, because I work twiceas hard as everybody else, twice
as long, maybe not twice as hard, but I work twice as long
because I love doing it seven days a week.
Of course I'm going to get more opportunity.
Of course I'm going to find thatlook.
We generate that look. And I think that says any
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entrepreneur will tell you the same thing.
Yeah. I would agree.
I always try and say if you do something good enough for a long
enough that you love, it's boundto succeed.
Yeah, If you do anything long enough, you'll find success in
it. As long as you're smart and
you're able to read what's working, read what's not.
Take different things of Try things that don't work.
Try things that do work. Make a spreadsheet.
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Here's what worked, here's what didn't.
Yeah. How can I apply something from
this to another idea that was slightly different?
See if I can get traction. You know, that's it's, it's a
very big analytical game. But the overall message is if
you love what you're doing and you're just stoked to be doing
it, it's going to shine through the camera and people are
naturally going to be drawn to that.
And like the world we live in today, YouTube is a break from
society. It's escapism.
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So if you can provide that. We've been fed fake shit for too
long. Everybody just wants the
authentic you. Yep, so Yep.
That's really cool man. I really appreciate the words of
advice, not just for me, but foreveryone out there.
And and you guys are a good example of that.
Thank you. You guys are a great example of
that. You've been doing this now for
how long 3. Years.
Three years. Yeah, three years.
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Now, yeah, I remember when you guys first started and you know,
now I. Remember the day you followed on
TikTok? Yeah, because I was like, I was
like, shit, these guys are fucking.
I kept fucking seeing your stuffand I'm like.
I was posting like 3 * a day then.
Yeah. And I think that, you know,
eventually after the 10th, 20th,30th thing, whatever it was, I
was like. I appreciate that.
(45:13):
That's good. I, I, I like you guys.
I think I remember 1 of you guystalking about LZ, the
controversy of LZ You, you know,you know this or that and I'm
like oh is that good? Sick I.
Love it. Sick.
So I apologize to Adam for all that.
By the way, just to let everyoneknow, those are some pretty
shitty reels. But.
Yeah, but you, I mean, you've played the game.
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You know what you're doing. You know what to clip.
Thank you. So like it got my attention
enough. I'm like cool, I I wouldn't mind
seeing this every day. Oh yeah, that means a lot.
And I think that it's not, you know, people doing something for
a year and be like, oh, it's notworking and you quit.
It's like, well, if you're doingit for viewership, probably
going to get smoked. Yeah, You know, it's a hard,
(45:54):
it's the very over saturated market now.
When I started, it was a lot easier.
Yeah. It was like I invested in Apple
before Apple was Apple. That's what I always literally,
yeah, I invested early and got agreat payoff and now I'm loving
what I'm doing. There's also a lot of
adaptations I had to make along the way because things are
changing. You got to stay on top of that.
Yep. Well, I will say that you were
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the first automotive YouTube that I ever found on the
Internet, and you are arguably the only reason that any of this
exists. So I just want to say that I
really appreciate the work you put in.
Awesome man. It's inspired a lot.
Yeah, it's good to see you out here.
So this is the shit I'm talking about.
I've never seen a podcast set upat A Good Life.
Just creating your own luck. You created your luck by being
(46:39):
here taking the investor and be like I'll maybe I can get maybe
345678 episodes just by random guys that are walking by.
I don't see any other podcast doing that.
That was. The whole idea around.
That's why when you asked me, I was like fuck yeah, hell yeah.
Thank you dude. Like I love seeing that and you
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are creating your luck and it's it's things when I see like
minded people pushing it, working hard on it, it gets me
fired up because I had a lot, I had a few people when I first
started that kind of invested inme and opportunities like that
or just shared time with me thatgave me the encouragement that
I'm sure got me something and moved on to the next thing.
(47:22):
So, so cool. I love it.
Thank you for the words I. Appreciate that.
Thank you. Seriously, really appreciate it.
I won't hold you up no more. I know you got to go back to the
rush. Cars like they're all calm and
we're getting. Ready.
I don't know how long I've had you so.
I, I got, I got invested, man. He was like, yeah, with 15
minutes. I think it's been like 30 or 35,
dude. Yeah, really appreciate it.
Go have some. Fun.
(47:42):
Yeah, man. Thank you.
Now, before anything, I want to give a massive thank you to TJ
Hunt for taking the time out of his not only Rush series, but
day at Grid life on his own to come and sit down and just chat
with me. If you stopped in here because
of TJ, go ahead and let me know that in the comments.
And if you really enjoyed the episode, I would appreciate if
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Welcome back to the Circle of Drift podcast presented by SIM
HQ, where we interview some of the most interesting
personalities within the industry.
My name is Dawson and today we have on none other than TJ Hunt
where we chat about whether it'sgood or bad to start with an
angle kit. Drive a car that is set up to do
what you're trying to do his. Super that Drift HQ is building.
I mean it's pretty much Adam's E36.
(00:21):
Exactly the setup in the 36 as a90.
Is venture into rush cars you'll.
Be surprised on how we up your body gets in that damn.
Yeah, it is a. Full body workout.
Some possible future drift teams?
Seeing Red Bull presented the way it is in FD adds a lot of
value in my opinion. Is like slowly taking the steps
(00:43):
up the ladder to make another player like RTR in the sport.
And maybe one day TJ Hunt in Formula Drift.
So when the right opportunity presents itself, I'd love to
drive FD. As of right now, I'm having so
much fun in so many other areas that I also like I I'm enjoying
doing. I don't want to pigeon myself
just when there could be other opportunities with a farther.
Road and a lot more while we satdown at grid life in South
(01:05):
Carolina. So don't forget to hit that
subscribe button below the videoand without further ado I've
been wanting this forever I've been in the field wherever they
throw at me brush it off pick myself up moving on a little
better. Hey, ain't no errors baby.
It's a new error. All right, dude, we'll got TJ DJ
(01:26):
Hunt starting off with a banger.So how are you doing this
weekend? We'll start there.
Yeah, doing good. So we're doing rush racing it's
we were had a pretty bad day yesterday just like in practice
just couldn't figure it out. I've had a pretty good amount of
seat time in these cars, but dueto some practice and I was the
slowest guy out of our I was just not, I was not driving
(01:49):
well. Had a lot of problems with our
brake pressure and locking up. And then did qualifying got like
15th or 16th. What's not bad, not where we
wanted to be right? And then yesterday it started
pouring before race 1. So everyone's like they deemed
it a wet race. So we're like, what do you want
to do? You want to do drives, want to
do wets, want to do drives, wantto do wets.
(02:11):
We last minute decided to put onthe wet tires.
OK. And miss the start of the race.
No shit. Because we were doing the last
minute tire change. Oh.
That's what Grant was talking. About so we went out to grid and
the pace car. When it's raining we'll do 2
laps before the rolling start. We missed both laps.
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They put me in false grids, started the race, they started
green flag, waited 1/2 lap and they sent me out.
Oh my God. But then we passed like we ended
up passing like 20 people and ended up in P8.
What the? Fuck yeah.
So. Dude, that's impressive.
Yeah, I had AI had the I think like the fourth or fifth fastest
lap time in wet and I don't, I think I just found my comfort
(02:54):
with the car finally. And we had a race last year, WRL
CODA, which is 8 hour enduro, and it was pouring all weekend.
Oh, that was some good. The Miata we had, there was no
ABS, there was no anything. So I got to just.
How comparable is a Miata to those cars?
Very different. Obviously people compare them as
far as. So different.
So the rush cars, although they're like, you know, joked as
(03:15):
the Miata, the prototype car, everything is different.
There is. No.
Is it technically too chassis? It is, yeah.
OK. But just like you know,
production cars have so much weight, even with downforce and
cages and all this stuff, there's so much body role to the
GT4 chassis and production car chassis compared to prototypes.
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Prototypes are much, in my opinion, much more raw and have
way, way stiffer. So it's just a completely
different driving style. That's crazy.
You can't trail break in these cars out.
All you trail break you pretty much spin out.
Ask me how I know. I do it all the time.
So yeah, we had, I mean, yesterday was a great finished
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P8 and the Sunoco team, it's Nate and six me and eight, like
Shanks and nine and Grand 10. So we all, all of us started in
the back of the race. That's.
So and we all like caught up andjust like I think the help of
drifting being. Okay, so that's what I was about
to ask is like seeing all of youguys jumping from drifting into
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this rush stuff it you're like blowing people out of the water
as far at not that sounds bad, but like as far as the time it's
taking you to catch up yeah is so much faster than just someone
getting into rush from the. Jump.
I would argue that's pretty true.
Is it all because of drifting? I think.
So I think it's just being so comfortable with oversteer and
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understeer, right? And being comfortable with
proximity because when you're Rd. racing here and you're going
in the corners at 130, you will lose a lot of time if you are
not comfortable braking and staying 6 inches from your rear
bumper and monitoring that brakepresser.
So I think that has a lot to help.
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And then really just being able to, you know, and drifting, it's
you learn very quickly as you'rerolling into a turn, even if
you're not initiating where thatrear is going to step out.
Right when you go into a corner with high speed as a drifter,
you have that like sixth sense of like if I get one mile per
hour more, the rear is stepping out or hey, my fronts aren't
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warm enough, I'm gonna start understeering.
So I'm having. A balance of.
Knowing your front and your rears and where the slip points
are I think carries over a lot when it comes to Rd. racing
where a lot of guys you know, they step out, they freak and
you know, so I. Talked about that a lot to.
Slip the rear end out on some ofthese corners.
It's faster to have your rear, is it not?
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Drowning. Well, we're.
Not out there trying to drift. If you're drifting, you'll be
slower. But that's not to say that in
certain sections we're playing with stepping out.
Sometimes it's faster to take the inside line and fight grip a
little bit than it is take the outside line just because on
these sweeps you'll shave off 180 feet just on like a couple
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turns if you take the inside line even when there's no grip.
What? OK, So whenever you do have to
play that game where you step itout a little bit, is it not more
Jurassic given that the wheelbase is so much shorter and
something like that very. Snappy, these are not like drift
cars, so you and that's where that I think the drift
experience comes in is, you know, I'm not going to speak for
everybody, but from what I've gathered is that, you know, when
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these cars step out, it can be quite alarming because it's very
quick to over rotate it's like, you know, you hear people
drifting Miatas and they're tough because of that wheelbase
and these are even shorter See, it's definitely a fine line, but
having the experience of drifting and when you do step
out and being like, oh relax, like you just stay in it and
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correct or feather off a little bit, get your weight set and
then get back on throttle. I mean, it's like second nature
for us. And that's what we always laugh
about. Or like, you know, we'll be in
practice or qualifying or in a race and we do an accidental
drift and then we'll meet with some guys and they're like,
whoa, we're hot dogging out there.
I'm like, yeah, brother. That's crazy.
We're like the wild guys. Yeah, that, yeah, we're known as
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like the hot doggers out there, but it's hard to dial that back
because you know that's going tomake you slower.
But in some cases it does happen.
And if you can, save yourself with it.
Absolutely, Yeah. Yeah.
Well, do you see yourself venturing more down the rush
side of things rather than drifting nowadays, or is it
going to be a good even balance?I, I don't know, I've, I've
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always, and I've said this flat out, I always thought like Rd.
racing and grip driving was the lamest thing in the world.
Like I've had zero interest in it for the last 10 years.
And I was like, drifting is where it's at.
We were excitement, the thrill doesn't match.
And I think that's because all Ihad really done was like HPDE
with whatever car I had. And you're out there by yourself
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setting the lab time down, driving a car that's not set up,
driving a car, not actually looking at data and figuring out
like what you can do where I came out.
And I drove one of these rush cars for the first time last
year on track with like HamiltonForsberg and whomever was there.
And once you learn to drive a car and you go 4 wide into a
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corner at 130 down to 30 miles an hour in like a second and
you're battling and we're bumping and you're overtaking.
And if someone's going too deep and you're over under.
I did one like practice day withthem and I was like, this is the
most fun I've ever had driving in my life.
And whereas this weekend, for example, we're going to get any
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three hours of driving time, that's insane, where win or
lose, you got 3 hours of drivingtime, there's still 3 hours of
thrill of passing, people getting past, going back to the
trailer, looking at your deltas,looking at your brake pressure,
looking at your zones and being like analytically, let's change
this and let's see the improvement on the next run.
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Yeah, we're in drifting. You go to a comp, a high level
comp, let's say like you know, hot pit or like clutch kickers,
right? Practice is much larger in those
events. But even still, the last hot pit
round, I think we got 9 or 8 practice laps before going into
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quality. That's good, yeah.
Which? Was solid and then you know
quali and then top 32 you could go home after sub 5 minutes of
time and you're still. And drifting is more expensive
than rush. Is it really?
The rush car takes the cost per hour is less than AK1 speed go
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Kart. The car itself is like 4550
grand but the cost per hour. How much do you spending per
round? Here, Yeah, well, I, I can't, I
can't answer that for myself because I do an arrive and drive
program. Fair.
Fair. So it's different.
But I mean, let's just say you buy a rush car for 50 grand.
You come here, we'll go through one or two sets of tires, you
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have a spare set of reins, assuming you don't blow anything
up. That's a pretty cheap.
Weekend, I mean, you're going tobuy your entry just like any
other drifter here and fuel. You go through fuel, yeah, but I
mean. There's a lot more maintenance
that comes along with those, I mean.
What can't be spent in what you spend in 14 tires to come out
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here is definitely more than what you're going to spend if
you don't break anything on the Rush car, Yeah.
Especially what makes. Those so awesome yeah is it's a
great spec level entry to get into at an affordable cost.
I mean spec Miata is more than that is.
It. Really.
Yeah dude, some spec Miata cars are.
Expensive. Oh I mean I've seen some of them
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that get pretty wild, but I wouldn't guess it'd be more than
those. Like those things just seem so
simple. There are some that are wild.
Yeah. So I mean, it's, I've had a lot
of thrill with it. And, you know, I when we did our
first, like, practice day, they were like, hey, that's some
pretty notable time for someone who's never had any experience.
And yeah, I think I equate it back to drifting and it's being,
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you know, the love for cars, playing video games like all of
us. Yeah, I think a lot of people
drifting would naturally do wellin the right environment.
Have you used, I assume SIM to adapt to all this stuff a lot
better, Right? Yeah.
I mean, I've done more in car than SIM stuff, but a seto has
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you can download a rush car. Rush car has all their like
preset cars that you can properly like.
That's pretty. Play with them and get to know
them a little bit, but. I'm not the download on that
myself, yeah. It's it's wild.
And you'd be really surprised onhow much of A people often goes,
those are like big go karts. I'm like, brother, they're not
like go. Karts a little bit more than
that. Yeah, so their gigs are 1000
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engines and they weigh 1200 lbs and it's air shifted. 1200 OK,
so we were actually talking about that.
We were guessing it was at leastunder a 1000.
Are there some of them that are possibly or are they all right
about 1200? So we all have to weigh in on
impounds. So I mean, it's all spec class,
so you have to be in your set weight.
Everyone's within the same limit.
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Yeah. So they're like 12 I.
Don't know enough about 10 lbs. And, you know, they move.
I mean, we our lap time, our fastest guy Blair set a 138 one,
which is the same time as the C eights out there driving when
they're in the advance, the advance track.
It's not the ZO6, but see those big everyone has C eights out
here driving with the big wings just as fast and we're and we're
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running 4 deep into turn 1. So like.
Turn 1's tight. It is so much more aggressive.
No ABS, no power steering, no trash control.
It's 100% raw. We'll pull 2 GS into the corners
and the wheel resistance force. When I did my first practice
day, my whole body was wrapped. You almost.
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Like passed out from the G force.
No, I mean, it's not. It's not that aggressive, but
you'll be surprised on how beat up your body gets in that.
Damn, it is a. Full body workout.
We're constantly being reminded on comms to breathe, breathe,
breathe, stop holding your breath, and we'll go back and
watch data or watch like a heartrate monitor.
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Well, there's some corners. I don't breed for three corners.
That's crazy that you even have that type of analytics to dial.
Is in the drifting side, Sure, there is data, yeah, RTR and all
those guys, they're 100% lookingat data, right?
But the amount of data you get on road racing is personally
like nothing I've ever seen. So what?
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OK, So what analytics are you actually looking at on the most?
Regular basis anything so everything is tracked by GPS and
we have in car video. So you can you can watch your
line, you can see your about perhour at any point on the track
and we can compare it with all of our drivers.
We can take our fastest guy Blair and we'll I just finished
my session. We go over or we'll do both of
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ours, our data and we can literally look at brake
pressure. We can look at breaking point
that we can look at all on graphs.
We can look at how much acceleration we're giving, how
much throttle we're getting. We can look at the G's are
pulling, we can look at anythingwearing car video.
I mean literally any piece of information that you want to see
you can look at. And you'd be shocked on how much
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faster you get just by really taking the changes and going and
applying it or even just on breaking.
I mean that's the hardest thing with CMP breaking zones on 1/8
and like 13. Why, if you can?
What makes them complicated I guess.
Just you're going fast man, likegoing 130 and bringing your
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wheel speed down to exactly like50 mph at the right.
And that's like if you. Nail that correctly, you won't
fly off track. If you take that 5 feet too
deep, you're off in the woods. So just like you know, that's
where I feel what we're noticingon our data is like if you guys
can just tighten up, we will go watch the video.
Be like you see that patch of sand?
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That's our break point. Or if you're too scared, do a
half Mississippi before that breaks sand and I need 95%
throttle break pressure for a second and then we need like 60%
or else you're going to lock up.How do you remember this stuff?
You'd be surprised when you're out there turning lap.
After lap, after lap, after lap,after lap.
You know, cuz there's how I findit is there's like certain
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sections where you're like, I'm good, we go to the data, I'm
like I'm flowing, it clicks. And there's other sections where
you're like every time I hit it,I'm like, so you're really just
remembering like for me it's 18 and I think 12 in my head, I
know I'm going 300 sand 300, which means I'm going down the
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one I'm going to stop at the I'mgoing to start 95% brake
pressure at 300, bleed off. And then I know that my sand is
coming down on 8. The brake markers have been
destroyed, so we have no break markers there.
But there's a patch of sand right when the downhill
compresses to the uphill, there's a patch of sand that
we're watching. So if you can go 300 sand,
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you'll carry great. You'll all shave a second and a
half on this next session. And then on my last one, going
down the kink and then you go down, you make the left hand
decrease radius. There's a 300 marker that if you
do 10 feet past 300, you're in the woods.
So stay at 3. And for me, if I can remember
that this next session, I know doing it perfect, I'd save, I'd
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shave 2 seconds, but I'll probably shave at least a half
second right on this next session by applying those
changes, looking at data again and being like, OK, we're there,
I'll take it now. I'll take it a half second or a
thousandth of a second part of it.
So like that's. A lot of big brain stuff, man,
that's crazy. It comes so naturally once you
get there. Like I think some people watch
it and they're like, whoa, like that's so hard.
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And it's not easy, but you'd be surprised when you when you love
it. Oh yeah, I'm sure it clicks like
you're in the driver seat. Pretty.
Quickly but. From an outsider perspective, it
is nothing but impressive. Yeah, it's definitely a lot, but
it's more, I think it's more doable than other than people
would think. And that's the whole point of
rush is to get people in cars atan affordable price.
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Now they just released their SRXturbo twice the horsepower,
twice the price of course, and that's not really like, but it's
like the Sr. is more like budgetin mind, keep it affordable.
And the SRX which is the turbo is like better ECU, better PDM,
way more control DRS. Yeah, more extreme class.
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Way bigger body, same wheelbase,but and they're wicked.
I mean, they I don't want to saywhat they beat and I don't know
if they released stuff, but I mean it's beat things that are
triple its price, prototype carsand you're like.
That hurts. Yeah, and the guys that built
that, they're like, it's wicked.They haven't even let me drive
it yet. Damn dude, so you have to let me
know how it is when you do. Yeah, I'm, I'm hyped.
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I'm hyped. That's all.
I'm going to be running it. I think in Atlanta, cool.
It's going to be 5 or 6 guys running the SRX turbo.
I'll be there, so we'll have to run this back and dude.
Yeah, they were. Had it at the Sunoco pump party
last night and they were revvingit and you can hear all like the
turbo surge. It's sick.
It's super sick. They slapped a turbo on a Jigsaw
1000 engine. It's dope.
It's really cool. Cowboys, man.
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Yeah. Hell yeah.
Well, other than the rush stuff,how is the drifting side of
things going? I know you've still got Selena
around. Yeah, yeah.
And all that drive one there next.
Week and a hop at Round 2. Sick OK?
Is the C6 OK? C6 Epic.
OK we wrecked in the back of Trenton Round 1.
He had a car malfunction and just went into him at 70 mile an
hour on outer bank one. So we got all that fixed up.
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So right now we have 3 chassis we're running.
We have the C6, which is really a drift weak car.
It's a party car, right? It's LS3 big flowy heads, stock
internals makes 5540NA and we have a 175 shot for it that we
have that we didn't run for a hot pit.
And then we have our 350 Selena,which is a proper pro spec car.
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Just scooch did the whole thing.It's like a very adequately like
it's a great weapon in pro spec Absolutely as is not changed
nothing about it. Then we have our a 90 build
which Drift HQ is about to finish which is pretty much a
pro on car. OK.
Is there anything that you can let us know about the Super yet?
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Yeah, I mean, I mean it'll. Be a couple weeks.
Yeah, I mean it's Drift HQ dropped a video on it.
I mean, it's pretty much Adam's E36.
OK, exactly the setup in the 36 as a 90.
Oh, that's going to be a weapon for.
You yeah, it's going to be nasty.
So it's, you know, like to the T, everything that's on that car
other than the ECU, we're going Hal tech is the same car.
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Sick man so that'll be really good for you yeah, it's it on
the drifting side of things it has been impressive to see the
growth that you've had I mean you've you've developed as a
driver very rapidly and a competitive one at.
That Thank you. Yeah, it's wild.
That's all. Credit goes to my stock 70Z that
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I had just an angle kit in the hydro and he won four podiums in
hot pit against FT chassis and then any other comp we've gone
to. I mean just that car alone, I
recently sold it. We have like 14 podiums in.
That's insane A. Year and a heavily under powered
car. Oh yeah, only it was stock
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engine. We ran nitrous at hot pit and it
was a 75 shot. The car was down on power.
It made like 370 wheel stock gearbox wise.
Fab dual caliper. How do you keep up in a car like
that? Momentum.
That's what I feel like made me a better driver is learning to
keep up with margaritas in his 750 Pro 2 car, or driving with
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Rome and Sally or driving with Trent or driving with and these
guys, like in all the driving I've been doing with LZ and
Chelsea. And I've been had the
opportunity to be driving with some of the best guys in the
world for years. And doing that in a car that's
under powered has allowed me to undo everything I learned and
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drive with momentum. Yeah, explain that though.
What do you mean moment? Because obviously people will
hear that, but they don't quite understand, especially if
they're new. So my second gear wheel speed in
the Z, it was 64 mph. OK, set it and forget it.
Couldn't grab third in that car.The gearing ratio is too long.
So thankfully for everything we did, we could get away with
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about 64 mile an hour wheel speed.
But what we did to cheat it is we used a Nitto G to 255-4518.
We had the tallest sidewall possible, so we were getting
maximizing our chassis speed. Once you did that, you know
you're going to have to sacrifice angle in certain
areas, but the key is to go in as fast as possible.
Let's say you're following an FDcar on a big outer bank, right?
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He's going to throw massive angle.
So we're going to shallow up a little bit, be in the pocket,
sacrifice where you need to for the proximity.
That's what the judges wanted itfor, a hot pit.
And you cannot waver. If you make any corrections in
chase, you're gapped, right? So it's really about being in
the right place at the right time.
And timing has to be damn near perfect so you don't get gapped
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in the chase. So driving with momentum means
high speed, minimal correction. And if you can pull that off, it
looks pretty damn good. And then in your chase, you just
run your bro line, you run the big angle, use everything you
got and then you have someone that's gripped up 700 horsepower
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behind you. They're.
Going to have the time chasing you.
So it's a double edged sword, right?
But I got I I got really damn well at driving that car and won
a lot of events with it. Yeah, you know, in between I was
still driving my Selena car, which is a pro spec car, and I
was doing all the grid lives. But the equative, the amount of
driving we did in two years was,yeah, insane.
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I get it man. And that's, that's what I meant
too. As far as like the progression
and stuff, it's I think the Supra is really going to allow
you to drive at your full potential.
I agree. And we drove the Z last year at
the last round of drift league, which was the California Pro
Spec League. We finished second overall, but
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we drove the Z every round that year.
There's three rounds. First round I took myself out.
Disappointing, but we landed in like 7th or 8th or something and
then we got podium to the secondround, or we got first place at
the second round and then secondplace or third place at the
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third round. And we were short 10 points from
getting the license. But the Z is super competitive
and super great, and being able to apply the momentum style to
not using the big power to save yourself on all your corrections
just helps. Dial in that slow and dial in
just straight to angle. Set it, forget it.
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It's been a really, really good combo.
Absolutely. Well with all you've learned as
far as car setup, what would yousay is a good basic setup to go
for on almost any? I have a hot send it.
I'm here for it. Yo dude, when's your first
event? I think it's in, like, I think
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it's in two weeks, something like that.
But dude, have you even ordered tires yet?
Oh, my God, you're right, dude. Thanks for that reminder.
I got to do that. Yeah, no problem, man.
Have you tried the Zek Nova's yet?
I mean, I've been tossing aroundthe idea of doing that, but I
think realistically, I'm just going to buy some cheap Walmart
tires like I usually do. No.
OK, No, we're not doing that. You've had plenty of seat time
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by now. You need proper tires.
But what do you mean proper tires?
Well, what I mean by proper tires is like better grip, more
consistency, longer life, and asweird as it sounds, even smells
better. But bro there's so much more
expensive. No no no no no.
Just use the circle drift code. It's like 20% off yo.
Wait really? But what?
What do I do for the next event?Well then just use it again.
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I mean you can literally use it all season if you want.
Well shit, you ain't going to tell me twice, I'm going to do
that. Same goes for you too.
If you're looking to get your tires before the 1st event.
Maybe it's coming up quick. Drop down below to the link to
Zic Nova Tires and use the code Circle Adrift to get 20%.
Off when I first started drifting and on YouTube and like
you know everyone's very quick to to talk shit where they can.
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Yep, I remember getting flames for getting my 350Z and then
immediately throwing a PBM anglekit on it.
OK everyone's like OK you're learning to drift.
You should learn to drift with no angle.
Learn the car first, don't get angle and then start to learn.
With certain cars, I will say I I somewhat agree with that.
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So disagree with that. But why I so disagree with that?
Because we're drifting. Yeah, right.
You would agree we're drifting. So if you're drifting, do you
want to go drive my rush car to drift?
No. Yeah, he has no angle.
Exactly because it's not set up to do that yeah.
So when you're learning to drift, I'd rather and I, I help
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this everyone drive and look at him.
He's cheering on the background.Drive a car that is set up to do
what you're trying to do and I. Totally, I don't think.
It's going to handicap you. I don't, I just, I don't believe
that. I don't believe that learning to
drive with a lot of angle is going to hit is going to make
you worse. A lot of guys will argue this.
In my experience when I've seen even friends that drive all my
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stock, I had so many friends drove my 370 C and they'll go
and drive or we go to Ebisu and we bring friends out and we rent
cars and there's guys that are learning on a stock angle Ebisu
car and the guys are looking on like the JCXS with the angle
kit. Yeah.
And we got to test it and to seelike who does better throughout
the day. Yeah, I don't know.
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I think people are watching drifting.
So they're seeing angle and they're seeing this.
And then you go and you mimic that in a stalk angle car and
you keep over rotating and you can't do this and that.
I just go. And learn.
OK, so here's here's my rebuttalto that based off of what you
said. Learning to drive with momentum
was the best thing that could have helped you.
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Learning to drive a car with little angle, it helps you learn
momentum more because you have to learn that the faster that
you go compensates for the lack of angle.
I'm not saying go get a 500 horsepower, I like myself.
I wrote my car and right right and it screwed me.
That's too far. But I don't think getting an
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angle kit is too far when it comes to a starter build drift
car. No, I totally agree.
I just, I wanted to see what theYeah.
I mean, dude, I don't know. I.
Argue with it. I have this everyone at the
shop, Dylan and everyone they'relike, Nope, disagree with you
couldn't disagree more. Learn on a stock angle car and
I'm like. I would still highly suggest for
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personally starting with smallerangle.
Maybe if you do get an angle kit, maybe get a, you know, an
FDF mini kit or something like that.
Sure. And I start basically settle
there. Maybe you don't.
Understand the car. The like don't, maybe don't go
get a wide spab right off the bat.
But I had a friend ask me, I would say yeah.
If you got the money for it, by all means absolutely do whatever
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you want to start with. Let's say money is not a factor,
then yeah. And I'm like, you're like, I
don't know how to drip. What do I get?
Like go get a 370Z, throw an angle kit of your choice on it,
throw in a hydro and go up solid.
Yeah, I yes, I understand throwing more angles going to
slow the momentum down. But I would also say, hey cool,
you saw how much angle you saw what happens when you throw too
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much angle? Now go in and lessen the wheel
speed or stay on the gas and unwind the wheel a little bit
and look at where your projectoris going.
Absolutely. I just I know, so I get it.
Throw go into a stock car and they're just like just can't get
it. I just, it doesn't work and I'm
like, go drive my Z and I'm like, go do figure eights, you
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know, like that was easy. Yeah, I'm like, oh, weird.
A car that's set up to do what you're trying to ask it to do
works. That's crazy.
Well, no, no more arguments on that.
Don't go do what I. Did and Jay-Z swap in do like a
you know, CDO 9 adapter and overbuild your car?
How much did you spend on that car in the beginning when you
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first did all that? Wait, wait.
Nate, Nate, Nate. Come here.
Come here. Come here.
Hot take. Come join it.
We're going to enter. Yeah, yeah.
We need your opinion on this. OK.
In your opinion, someone that's new to drifting, should they
learn to drive on a stock angle car or a car with an angle kit?
Stock angle, I knew it you're. So wrong what so wrong?
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No, no. No, no.
The harder the harder it is in the beginning, the more you
learn and then the easier it gets later.
So this this was my argument. He's talking about momentum.
Drifting was probably the best thing that he could learn.
You learn that more with less angle.
Well, having less angle will like like.
It'll teach you how to drive with more momentum.
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You have to learn your line likehaving wise facts.
Sorry man, the beginning is lostin this.
We're also talking to TJ Hunt here.
No, I know, right? I approve.
Get the get the get the angle kit.
Keep. Keep.
You got to come back to, by the way.
Low horsepower. Get the angle kit, learn to
drive it. I don't think it's gonna make it
any worse. Yeah, they'll let us know in the
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comments. I'm sure I wave this flag and
everybody tells me I'm wrong, but I.
Am stay true to it. I'm cool with that.
Mad respect. Drifting stock angle is, so I'm
not dejecting, but people see itlike, I don't want to do that.
Yeah. And then they go and they try it
and they're like, that was whack.
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Yeah, I see it deterring people from.
I tried to determine. The stock angle car and I can't
even do it. So I'm like.
Maybe because you didn't learn in the stock?
Yeah, but I didn't learn to start.
Maybe that's why I hate it so much.
But I mean, G there's like G KG K tech makes like a a mini kit.
FDF makes a mini kit. The bolt on stuff or cut
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knuckles or whatever. I think adding a little bit of
adding angle is a great place tolearn.
As long as you don't just say and I'm going to throw 1000
horsepower at it. That's going to be you're going
to end up like me and you don't want.
To do that, absolutely. You got any more hot takes for
him? I will say this, I'm really
excited for the sport to grow. Definitely.
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Where other teams can be more like RTR so it not levels the
playing field out. But Vaughn has done such an
amazing job at doing what no one's done before.
And if you watch the James Dean documentary that they released
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like 2 months ago, they show a bunch of the RTR.
And I know he shows all the time, but they show a lot of
like their facility and each carhas its own like stall and white
floors and they're like making like extra carbon fiber parts
and bumper budget and the backing they have.
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Like that's the most admirable, respectable thing.
Like for myself, as I've considered myself an
entrepreneur, a business. I watch what they do and I'm
like. It makes you feel small real
quick. It's just amazing, like the work
it takes to balance the amount of partners they have in the
relationships with the OES and make that happen is insanely
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difficult, but also gives them such an advantage.
And I can't wait for other people to figure out to do what
Vaughn did. Yeah, let me ask you this.
Completely level that like bringthe whole playing field and
there's other people who are on the way.
You know, Papadakis runs an amazing name.
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There's a lot of amazing programs out there.
But the RHR program is in America is absolutely the most
impressive and the best thing I've ever seen.
I would agree with that. What would you say if there was
a possibility of Shelby America joining FD on almost the same
scale? Like as a separate program.
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There is word. I had an interview with one of
the drivers that they're in the talks of possibly doing it and
it's like public info, like people can know about it.
But yeah, I would be very interested to see how that
plays. Out, yeah.
I mean, I, I, I think that FD would greatly benefit from more
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Bonds and I, that's a hard ask. Bond's been in it since the very
beginning, and he's been workingthese relationships and he's
done an amazing job at composinghimself and building the brand
and making the relationship. If there was another player to
step in from an audience perspective, I want to see them
meet their match. Yeah.
(34:31):
And Papadakis, I would say, is like.
It would only make things. Better the Osbos, the Turks, But
you know, having Dean, having Vaughn, LZ, Ben, you know,
people want to drive for them. Oh yeah, And imagine another
player. Just within the news.
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Coming in and being like, I'm going to put a sign up sheet on
everyone from drift masters. That's the best.
Do you want to come sign this? Oh, and not to and not to leave
out Shanahan. I'm leaving out probably a lot
of drivers. Yeah, right.
The Shanahan's are now, you know, Connor's on his own
program. I don't know if Jack is, I
don't. I don't know if they're moving
together. But I don't think so fully.
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Yeah, like having. Connor here running Red Bull
like he's doing. It's going to be epic for
Formula J seeing. Red Bull presented the way it is
in FD adds a lot of value in my opinion and is like slowly
taking the steps up the ladder to to to make another player
like RTR in the sport. Am I forgetting anyone?
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Can you think of like another program that's even close to
that budget size? Close to that size, no.
I mean in FD, no. Yeah, there isn't 1.
Like that's what excites me. Worth House was.
But they're not there anymore. They're not here anymore.
Yeah, yeah, I would say like, that's a great comparable.
And I don't know, like really ifthey are like I, but I just when
I watched that documentary, I was like this.
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And then you see and then you see.
Some guys that are like, like, one of my favorite drivers, Jeff
Jones, yeah, you see him in his garage by himself pulling the
engine two weeks before FD, adding, you know, putting in a
new clutch, doing this or that, tools all over the floor.
And like, damn, that guy's got passion, soul and heart.
And he's funny as hell. Yeah.
(36:19):
And then you just see like someone at that level.
Yeah. And then you watch that
interview and you're like, what?Wow, so it's such a large gap
and the same field gap, same field.
Huge gap and I can't wait until that gap.
Compresses. Compresses and watch the level
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of driving go through the roof and I think it's going to take a
long time. Do you ever see yourself putting
yourself in the mix of all that?Yeah, so many times, man.
Yeah, so many times. Well, you've obviously got the
cars progressing that way, so. We were, I'm planning to do pro
spec this year and there's just so much else going on.
(37:03):
I assume it's hard. It's so many other events that
we're doing and I, I haven't decided within me if I want to
do it, if I don't want to do it.What holds you from IT
personally, not business. Wise, I think it's, I think
truthfully one, it's a lot of money.
But that aside, the amount of time it's going to dedicated to
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doing that versus everything else that I want to do.
I've recently done a lot of Rd. racing and I want to dip my toes
in the GT4. There's some other aspirations I
have towards Rd. racing and FD. Even at pro spec is 4/4 weeks a
year which isn't a lot but it's also a five day span.
I'm getting there registration, practice, practice, drive and
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then pro one times that by 8. I don't think people, maybe
people do, maybe people don't. It's a travelling circus.
It is a full if you want to be good.
It is a full time commitment. Absolutely.
You know, Adam doing what he does is like one of the many
reasons to why, like I admire what he does so much because I
(38:09):
know that man's brain and I knowhis travelling schedule to be
the FD Circus, the LZ circus to oh, I'm going and driving in.
I don't know how we go this. Weekend for a couple of days and
finding a car and oh I'm now going to like he does an amazing
job and that boy drives more than any other person in the
world. So yeah you see it now this year
(38:29):
but I all I'll say is I've had talks with the right people
they're like you say the name you say the word we'll put you
here but I also really want to like earn my license.
I've never like dedicated a fullseasons.
I'm doing this, I'm doing that, I'm doing this.
Yeah, I do really well, but I'venever like done that.
Let's see a full season. So this year for Hot Pit, we're
(38:50):
really prioritizing the season. So Round 2 is next weekend at
Kern. We're bringing the 350 out.
We got we took the C6 out, whichis like our party car, yeah, got
7th in the last round and so youknow we're going to bring it and
the 1st place winner gets a fulla straight pass to Pro 1.
You bypass those. Oh, that is right.
(39:11):
That's hot pits only, right? That's so crazy.
And if let's say like Rome wins every year, hot pit, well, let's
say Rome wins and let's say likeI'm in second it.
Goes you can get it. Yeah, that's cool.
And. It's an FD driver, it goes to
the next person in line. Good.
So I mean, I think we'll see. But what's great about hot Pit
(39:31):
is it's all FD drivers to bring them out of the field.
They treat it very. They train you well for.
It and they're doing a really good job at it yeah and it's you
know that that only takes 2 daysof our time of actually being
there and I still get to like fill that cup of like
competitive driving that if I dowell it makes me feel good.
I'm not like, yeah, well, you know, I had this car.
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No one else had that. Well, you have the entrepreneur
mindset, so it it feels 100 times better just to earn
something. Than I think when the right
opportunity presents itself, I'dlove to drive FD.
As of right now, I'm having so much fun in so many other areas
that I also like. I I'm enjoying doing that.
I don't blame you. That I don't know, I just I
don't want to pigeon myself, just FD when there could be
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other opportunities with a farther Rd.
Yeah, I get it. And then right now I don't know
if FD is the right time for me also too.
You'll get there. Yeah, and also too.
Maybe one day. The first year of Prospect 2
would be a pretty big wash. Never driving the tracks.
You're going to get four or fivepractice laps.
You're signing. Up to blow money.
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And then you're going to get destroyed because you just don't
know. And then everyone's going to be
like, Oh my God, right. Look, look, look.
So, you know, there's a lot of like, just a lot.
I get it, but it'll be cool to see you in it.
I know I. Know it's coming, it will all
the time, but I would much rather you just keep nicking at
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the things you want to. You're obviously good at it, so
thank you. It's really cool to see.
Is there anything else you want to share on all of this stuff?
Nah. I think, I think I'm pretty
tapped. Start with an angle kit.
Keep stock power. You want to learn how to drift,
go get AC-6. Put an angle kit on it.
Thank me later. Yeah, that's like my new, like,
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cheater chassis. I think it's epic.
I feel that. Dude it was the 370Z.
Yeah, now it's AC 6. I think that's the new meta.
I could agree there's more of them I would say readily
available, maybe not as cheap, but.
Depends if you want the LS2 or LS3.
If you want the LS3 you're goingto get a 2012 and up which are
still like 20 something grand right?
But you can get like an early C6for like 12 grand.
(41:41):
It's an LS2. It's not the three, but still.
Yeah, pre LS lot. Yeah, pre LS, dude, they're a
nightmare to work on. Yeah, don't get it.
And then be like, this sucks. It sucks to work on that car.
Absolutely doing a clutch job onthat.
See you in a couple days. Dude, I'm good, man.
Yeah, it's I pay somebody to. Do it.
Other than that it was like things are epic.
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Yeah. Well, what's your best advice
for anyone chasing the content route, Entrepreneur route,
anything like that? This is what I'll say is is my
favorite quote. I almost like live by He who
says he can and he who says he can't are usually both right.
(42:25):
Oh yeah. And you are usually, yeah, your
usual, like, worst enemy. But beyond that, if you truly
love what you're doing, you'll be successful.
I think the opportunity for failure is very, very low.
And what I mean by that is some people get into certain things
or content creation for certain reasons, or they have a buddy
who's like making this much money, or they've seen someone
(42:46):
get a lucky break and do this. Or, you know, they think it'll
be an easier lifestyle where I just make some videos every day
and hang back. I'm going to do it for those
reasons. I don't think any of those
people can really be successful.At least we're not a sustainable
amount of time. Yep.
But if you love what you're doing so much, the fact that
you'll end up working 1214 hoursa day because you just truly
(43:06):
love it, you don't want to stop.You'll end up naturally out
working everybody else and putting in way more time and
accelerate yourself so much farther.
And I think when you have that lethal combination of loving
what you're doing and trying to find a way to make a living out
of it, there's almost 0 room forfailure.
I don't think there was a betterway you could have put that.
That's awesome. Yeah, I think everybody has
(43:26):
luck, but you create your own luck.
It's very like hand in hand and yeah, all people look at me and
be like, yeah, you got lucky this or that.
Like, yeah, because I work twiceas hard as everybody else, twice
as long, maybe not twice as hard, but I work twice as long
because I love doing it seven days a week.
Of course I'm going to get more opportunity.
Of course I'm going to find thatlook.
We generate that look. And I think that says any
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entrepreneur will tell you the same thing.
Yeah. I would agree.
I always try and say if you do something good enough for a long
enough that you love, it's boundto succeed.
Yeah, If you do anything long enough, you'll find success in
it. As long as you're smart and
you're able to read what's working, read what's not.
Take different things of Try things that don't work.
Try things that do work. Make a spreadsheet.
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Here's what worked, here's what didn't.
Yeah. How can I apply something from
this to another idea that was slightly different?
See if I can get traction. You know, that's it's, it's a
very big analytical game. But the overall message is if
you love what you're doing and you're just stoked to be doing
it, it's going to shine through the camera and people are
naturally going to be drawn to that.
And like the world we live in today, YouTube is a break from
society. It's escapism.
(44:30):
So if you can provide that. We've been fed fake shit for too
long. Everybody just wants the
authentic you. Yep, so Yep.
That's really cool man. I really appreciate the words of
advice, not just for me, but foreveryone out there.
And and you guys are a good example of that.
Thank you. You guys are a great example of
that. You've been doing this now for
how long 3. Years.
Three years. Yeah, three years.
(44:51):
Now, yeah, I remember when you guys first started and you know,
now I. Remember the day you followed on
TikTok? Yeah, because I was like, I was
like, shit, these guys are fucking.
I kept fucking seeing your stuffand I'm like.
I was posting like 3 * a day then.
Yeah. And I think that, you know,
eventually after the 10th, 20th,30th thing, whatever it was, I
was like. I appreciate that.
(45:13):
That's good. I, I, I like you guys.
I think I remember 1 of you guystalking about LZ, the
controversy of LZ You, you know,you know this or that and I'm
like oh is that good? Sick I.
Love it. Sick.
So I apologize to Adam for all that.
By the way, just to let everyoneknow, those are some pretty
shitty reels. But.
Yeah, but you, I mean, you've played the game.
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You know what you're doing. You know what to clip.
Thank you. So like it got my attention
enough. I'm like cool, I I wouldn't mind
seeing this every day. Oh yeah, that means a lot.
And I think that it's not, you know, people doing something for
a year and be like, oh, it's notworking and you quit.
It's like, well, if you're doingit for viewership, probably
going to get smoked. Yeah, You know, it's a hard,
(45:54):
it's the very over saturated market now.
When I started, it was a lot easier.
Yeah. It was like I invested in Apple
before Apple was Apple. That's what I always literally,
yeah, I invested early and got agreat payoff and now I'm loving
what I'm doing. There's also a lot of
adaptations I had to make along the way because things are
changing. You got to stay on top of that.
Yep. Well, I will say that you were
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the first automotive YouTube that I ever found on the
Internet, and you are arguably the only reason that any of this
exists. So I just want to say that I
really appreciate the work you put in.
Awesome man. It's inspired a lot.
Yeah, it's good to see you out here.
So this is the shit I'm talking about.
I've never seen a podcast set upat A Good Life.
Just creating your own luck. You created your luck by being
(46:39):
here taking the investor and be like I'll maybe I can get maybe
345678 episodes just by random guys that are walking by.
I don't see any other podcast doing that.
That was. The whole idea around.
That's why when you asked me, I was like fuck yeah, hell yeah.
Thank you dude. Like I love seeing that and you
(47:00):
are creating your luck and it's it's things when I see like
minded people pushing it, working hard on it, it gets me
fired up because I had a lot, I had a few people when I first
started that kind of invested inme and opportunities like that
or just shared time with me thatgave me the encouragement that
I'm sure got me something and moved on to the next thing.
(47:22):
So, so cool. I love it.
Thank you for the words I. Appreciate that.
Thank you. Seriously, really appreciate it.
I won't hold you up no more. I know you got to go back to the
rush. Cars like they're all calm and
we're getting. Ready.
I don't know how long I've had you so.
I, I got, I got invested, man. He was like, yeah, with 15
minutes. I think it's been like 30 or 35,
dude. Yeah, really appreciate it.
Go have some. Fun.
(47:42):
Yeah, man. Thank you.
Now, before anything, I want to give a massive thank you to TJ
Hunt for taking the time out of his not only Rush series, but
day at Grid life on his own to come and sit down and just chat
with me. If you stopped in here because
of TJ, go ahead and let me know that in the comments.
And if you really enjoyed the episode, I would appreciate if
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