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January 31, 2025 • 43 mins

Navigating Politics, Personal Stories, and the Pulse of Current Events

In this episode of 'The Civil Union,' Alex and Ryan start by touching on the Chinese New Year and their podcast's journey up to the third episode. The couple dives into engaging discussions about the current political appointments, and confirmations, including Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard. They address the slow implementation of Missouri's pro-choice bill and other passed measures. There's a candid conversation about the ongoing immigration raids and their societal impacts. They also discuss the nationwide implications of recent federal freezes. The episode wraps up with lighter news, covering exciting scientific discoveries and amusing stories about monkeys on the loose. Stay tuned for the latest political insights, personal anecdotes, and more.

00:00 Introduction to the Civil Union Podcast
03:18 Neighborhood Facebook Drama
05:40 Taylor Swift Theories and Super Bowl
08:14 Political Confirmation Hearings
17:47 Missouri's Political Paradox
20:58 Political Landscape and Abortion Legislation
23:48 RFK Jr. and the 'Who Said It' Game
27:07 Immigration Raids and Their Impact
33:36 Federal Ban and Government Shutdown
37:51 Lighter News: Scientific Discoveries and Escaped Monkeys
41:49 Closing Remarks and Upcoming Topics

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(00:06):
Welcome to the Civil Union, thepodcast where politics meets
partnership.
We're Alex and Ryan, a marriedcouple navigating life and
debates in a conservative state.
We bring you sharp insights,bold opinions, and honest
conversations about thepolitical issues shaping our
lives, especially those livingon society's margins.

(00:27):
Tune in for real talk, a touchof humor, and plenty of passion,
because when it comes topolitics, every voice matters.
And we're here to make surethey're heard.
So starting episode three,finally.
And I just want to say that ourthoughts are with plane crash
victims, the figure skatingcommunity and all their families
and friends.

(00:47):
It was just a horrible situationthat happened last night.
I was watching it as it went outor as it played on all the TVs.
Yeah, I think it's crazy thatthey even had a video of it.
It's really disturbing.
I mean, it was the deadliest airdisaster supposedly in like 20
years.
So it's a pretty big deal.
Yeah, very, very, very sad.
So, okay.

(01:07):
Moving on.
It's the Chinese New Year andyou know what?
It's the year of the snake.
So, shocking.
Yeah, I, you know, this is ourthird episode and going into it,
I do feel like we're starting toget the hang of things.
I feel like we've been getting alot of good feedback.
We really appreciate all thefeedback we have been getting
because it does help us.

(01:28):
But I do think there's a lot ofpeople that are really pushing
us to continue this.
So it's great.
I'm really excited that we'reeven here this week after the
busy, busy week last week wehad.
Yeah.
So did you see the new WhiteHouse correspondent?
Or have you seen her?
No.
I think she did her first likepress debate.
I guess it was a couple of daysago.
I don't even know her name, butshe's, she's really young.

(01:50):
She has to be in her twenties.
She's blonde, you know, she'svery, very pretty.
And I would be so proud of herif I was her parent, but she's
with the wrong political party.
But she made this, this postthat kind of went viral on the
left side where she misspelt theword correspondent.
She only had it with one R.
And so it was just kind of funnyto see That happened that go

(02:10):
down.
Well, something with her too is,you know, White House
correspondents need to be verywell spoken.
And from what I've heard, she'sjust not that like she keeps
like going to her script, havingone line for each response.
Like she I've what I've heard ofher is not very good so far, but
we'll see.
It's also a big day for you.
When this podcast airs, it'll bea big day for you.

(02:32):
Yeah, tomorrow, well, today,when this podcast airs, it will
be my birthday, which is crazy.
I'm very excited.
Hey, happy birthday.
Thank you.
How do you feel turning to ageolder?
I feel good about it.
I like, I, you know, I don'tmind aging, so I'm really,
really excited.
I'm not going to die.
Disclose my age, but I will saythat I'm just I'm very excited.

(02:53):
It's going to be a very low keyday.
I'm not doing anything too crazyand that's exactly what I need
right now.
So it's perfect.
So you're at the age where youdon't disclose your age.
I mean, do people disclose theirage after 30?
I don't know my only favoritepart about you turning.
Is that we're like, technicallytwo years older for like two
months.
And I just, it's my favoritepart about it.

(03:15):
Only for two months, only fortwo months.
Hey, are you a part of any ofthe neighborhood Facebook pages
or like community heatcommunities in like the area?
I am a part of a couple of them,but I also don't get on Facebook
too much, but yes, when I do,they're very exciting.
I think I'm like a administratorfor one of them.
I really don't know what thatthat gives you, but people are

(03:37):
just like absolutely crazy.
Okay.
So like yesterday, like I, I seea post and there's this guy who
says, can't believe there'sstill snow on the ground after
20 plus days.
Like literally that was the postand.
I was like, I thought I was, Ithought it was just small talk,
you know, neighborly talk.
And I wrote, yeah.

(03:57):
And it's supposed to get up inthe forties and it's supposed to
rain.
So all of that will be likemelted away.
And then he just like respondsto me.
Like he liked the post.
And I thought I was good.
I was like, Oh, okay.
And then like two minutes later,he's like tagging my name with a
screenshot of like the cityordinance, like saying that snow
can't be on sidewalks.

(04:18):
And yeah.
And his comment was like, I'm ajogger.
And I can't tell you how manytimes I had to run around the
sidewalk and, you know, goaround the snow and everything.
And it was just like, It's like,at this time period, do we
really need more to complainabout?
Are you really trying to findthings to complain about?
Talking about snow?

(04:38):
Well, so then I commented, I waslike, Oh, sorry, I didn't know
this was getting political.
And then he responds to me, he'slike, Political! What's making
this political?
I, I literally, I had to blockhim.
I just can't do it.
I will say, I don't ever get onFacebook, but when I do, I
literally just look at theneighborhood pages because they
bring me so much entertainmentwhen I'm on Facebook.

(04:59):
It's very entertaining.
Very, very entertaining.
And then, like, there's, like,people who post anonymously.
That's always fun becausethey're always spilling the tea.
But you know, as anadministrator for one of them, I
can see who you are.
So, or it's always the people,the people that have the biggest
voices are the ones that havelike no profile photo.
It's like the just basicgraphic.

(05:19):
And you're like, okay, wellthey're hiding behind something
here.
Right.
People are so comfortable tohide behind their screens these
days.
And, and they loved complaining,even though after everything
that has gone on, people justlove to still complain.
But.
This, I mean thisadministration, I feel like I've
aged like 10 years.
I think I said that last week.

(05:40):
But I am so ready for a newTaylor Swift album.
I mean, me too.
I don't want a rerecord, I wantall new material.
She supplied us with, she hassupplied us with five albums
since 2019 and four rerecord aswell within those years.
I mean, I know she was likesuper busy.

(06:03):
Obviously, but I just need herto keep releasing albums to help
me get through these four years.
Have you heard the new theoryabout her, like, Louis Vuitton
thing?
Have you heard this?
No.
So, you know, she's getting someflack because she's been wearing
a lot of Louis Vuitton, I guess,to all these, like, Kansas City
games.
with Travis Kelsey.
Like if you watch what shewears, everyone's obsessed with

(06:25):
it.
Anyway, this is theory.
You'll have to look it up.
And it's funny that this gets inmy algorithm.
I blame you because this is,this is what I see on my social
media.
But there's someone out theresaying Alex, his name's Alex
day, but his Louis Vuitton,they're saying maybe room in 55.
The 55th day of the year isFebruary 24th.

(06:48):
224, which is 112 divided by twotimes two, which is I guess
there's a 112 theory out theretoo, which this fits.
And then on February 24th oflast year at her reputation tour
was the one the first time shedid a double track.
With track nines, Coney Islandand Should've Said No and double
track 15's New Year's Day inPeace.

(07:10):
And if you add those two numberstogether, you also get 24.
And she had her pianomalfunction on that same show.
And no one knows what sound cameout of the piano, but it wasn't
a piano sound.
It was like a random weird soundthat she made, like made a note
of.
And then, Taylor Swift fans arecrazy.
But and then they said, thestart of the tour, the clock 24.

(07:34):
So there's this idea thatthere's going to be something on
February 24th and reputation is55 minutes long as well.
Do you know who's going to theSuper Bowl this year?
I actually really absolutelydon't.
It's the Kansas City Chiefs.
Oh, that makes sense.
And the Philadelphia Eagles andTaylor Swift is from

(07:56):
Pennsylvania and we all know shegoes to the Kansas City Chiefs
game.
So it'll be interesting to seewho she roots for.
I didn't Kansas City win lastyear.
Yeah.
This is their third consecutiveone.
So I think they're going tobreak a record, but this isn't a
show about Taylor Swift.
We're here to talk aboutpolitics.
It's time to move on.
Moving on.
So this past week, well, andlast week we've been dealing

(08:17):
with the city of confirmationhearings.
Last week was obviously PeteHegseth, and he got confirmed
for Secretary of Defense.
And then this week, we've hadTulsi Gabbard Thursday, RFK Jr.,
Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, just toname a few.
But there's been quite a bit ofactivity with the confirmation
hearings.

(08:37):
One of the biggest biggestpeople that really kind of going
into this was the mostcontroversial was Tulsi Gabbard,
who was getting confirmed forDirector of National
Intelligence.
She was, has a big history with,with the gays.
I mean, she's been anti gay fora while.
What's interesting about her isshe used to be a Democrat and

(09:01):
she's from a very Hawaiianstate.
Yeah, I don't understand.
I know she's from Hawaii and weabsolutely love Hawaii, but like
I don't know how you can be likea Democrat and then you're like
running for like thepresidential nominee like she
was on like one of the nominees.
Yes, she supported BernieSanders after she dropped out.
Well, and then now she's aRepublican as of like last year.

(09:24):
It's so weird.
How does I am?
We kind of touched on this lastweek about how, like in
relationships, people flip, butI just don't understand how
people flip and, and she's notthe only one.
RFK Jr.
Also flipped.
RFK used to be a Democrat.
He used to be pro abortion.
And then all of a sudden, justin the past, like five years,
he's kind of flipped as well.
It's very strange to me.

(09:46):
But super weird, Tulsi Gabbard,you know, she has a lot against
her.
It's surprised.
I'm surprised she herconfirmation hearings on
Thursday didn't get as much newsas they probably should have.
And people didn't go after heras much during her confirmation
hearings, because she has a lotof crazy things going on with
her with not only did she meet adictator al Assad, but I mean,

(10:07):
she also defended Putin and Hisattacks on Ukraine.
I mean, she basically said itwas Ukraine's fault that Russia
attacked them.
And she's just she's known to bein favor of these big dictators.
And she also has a history ofbelieving false information that

(10:29):
is being pushed out by thosecountries.
I mean, she's just this woman,if she becomes director of
national intelligence, will beable to decide what is
classified.
And what is declassified?
And what is shared with ourallies?
Like, it just seems very counterto what her history is as a

(10:49):
person.
And at her confirmation hearingson Thursday, she really kind of
just circled around all thesequestions pointed to her.
I mean, it didn't really goanywhere.
So I'm not, not quite sure wherewe stand with Tulsi Gabbard.
But I do know some Republicansalso really hounded her at her
confirmation hearings onThursday, too.
Who?
Who else got nominated that Peteguy?
How do you say his last name?

(11:11):
Yeah, he was confirmed.
He had a lot of, yeah,allegations against him.
Three senators, Republicansenators voted against him.
But with Pete Hex, that's whatis interesting too, is with him,
actually had to come and tiebreak the vote.
It is only the second time inhistory that this has happened
with a congressional nomineethat a, that a vice president

(11:33):
had to come and break thetiebreaker the other time that
this happened was another trumpnominee Betsy Devoy.
So, or Betsy DeVos, yeah, DeVos.
But yeah, I mean his, his,Pete's viewpoints of women in
the military should alarmpeople.
I mean, he's going to make wavesthat he mean, he basically

(11:54):
thinks women's position is atthe house.
They are there to raise thekids.
I mean, he has such an oldschool.
He doesn't want women in combat.
I think he's really gonna,really gonna push for that too,
which is scary.
It's always thrilling to see theLisa Murkowski Senator in Alaska
and the Susan Collins up inMaine.
They're both Republicansenators, how they just break

(12:16):
away and vote against Thenominees and which is also weird
who also voted because threeRepublicans voted against his
nomination, Mitch McConnell inKentucky.
That was a weird one, but I'm,how old is Mitch now?
Is he approaching 90?
Mitch McConnell is as old as analligator.
I mean, he is so old, but thething with Mitch McConnell,

(12:38):
which I find very interesting.
Yeah, he has been beating to hisown drum this year and I'm kind
of enjoying it.
Not that I enjoy him, but I'menjoying that he's breaking away
a little bit because he has no,no Fs to give at this point.
He's not up for reelection.
He's kind of just doing histhing.
He was horrible with Obama.
Oh, he was horrible.

(12:58):
So like, so Pete got nominatedand JD Vance like broke that tie
vote.
And so Pete told reporters thefirst day to expect like
executive orders.
And Monday morning we woke upwith four new executive orders,
reshaping our military.
We were like, Which were signedby Trump, obviously.
One of them included reinstatingwith back pay service members

(13:21):
who were discharged from notreceiving the COVID 19 vaccine.
And of course, of course, he'sbeen going after the DEI
programs, which we, me and Alexwere gays.
And we didn't know what DEI evenstood for like three weeks ago,
by the way.
So all this talk about DEI, it'sjust, it's kind of crazy.

(13:41):
It's just something for them tocomplain about.
But of course Trump is.
Blaming the D are gutted the D Iprogram for the military, which,
which by the way, with thatplane crash last night at the
press conference today, did yousee the press conference?
No.
Oh no.
But I heard about it.
Yeah.
Trump like blamed Biden and theD I program for the plane crash.

(14:02):
Are you fucking kidding me?
That's nuts.
Anyway.
So another order.
That was signed for gutting themilitary or reshaping the
military.
Is that he went after the transpopulation again?
Like what is this fascinationwith the trans community?
Yeah, it's so strange.
Yeah.
So I did a little research hereand out of 2.

(14:24):
8 million military members andestimated, they don't.
I don't actually release thesenumbers, but it's estimated that
between 2 to 15, 000 members,active members in the military,
are trans.
You know, that's not even apercentage point.
It's half of a percentage point.
Like, what are we really doinghere?

(14:45):
Aren't there bigger things totackle?
I feel like the trans subject isjust being weaponized by
Republicans, and it's like, youknow, we, gays were weaponized
years ago, before that it wasAfrican Americans, now it's
trans, and what people don'tunderstand is, the trans
community Yes, they're there.

(15:06):
They're just keeping tothemselves.
Let them keep to themselves.
Let them do their thing.
Let them be who they are.
Like, that's great.
And I love it.
Like, why do they have such anissue?
And right before my last.
I said, aren't there biggerthings to tackle?
Well, oh, they're tacklingthings.
That's for sure.
I mean, it's just nuts.
I mean, I think the wordunprecedented is like the word
of the decade.

(15:27):
Like if there's one word todescribe everything that has
gone on in the last eight yearsand let alone since 2020
unprecedented and like thisadministration.
This second term of Trump isjust unprecedented.
There is this idea that we'regoing towards an autocracy.
I mean, if you look at otherauthoritarian countries leaders

(15:51):
in those countries value loyaltymore than expertise or
competency.
And if you look at theseconfirmation hearings, that's a
running trend here.
Trump has been pushing peoplethat are really Only loyal to
him.
They have no experience in theseroles.
Pete Hexeth was a Fox newsperson.
RFK Jr.
Has really is the least lastperson you would want as house

(16:13):
secretary, but they, but theyare loyal to Trump.
And so there's this idea thatthat's the direction we're going
in.
It is kind of unsettling becauseit's ringing true.
Who else is getting nominated?
There's also going to be KashPatel, who is being nominated
for FBI director, Pam Bondi, whois being nominated for attorney
general.
Yeah, Pam Bondi, by the way, Ilived in Florida for a few years

(16:35):
and she was, and I was thereduring her first run for office.
I don't remember what it was.
I think it was attorney generalor something, but she's so, she
was like.
Not only is she an electiondenier, she was like on this
anti gay crusade for like thelongest time before she was even
known nationwide.
Like, she does not like thegays.

(16:59):
It's crazy because it feels likethis has already been all over
the news.
It feels like it's been forever.
And there are a total of 25cabinet confirmations, which
means we're only at the tip ofthis whole journey, not looking
forward to the rest of it.
I mean, but it's also importantto note just moving forward.
It's also important to notethere is discussion with

(17:23):
Gabbard, especially that theyshould be make, they should make
her, vote public or in private.
There's this, there's thisargument.
Many of Trump's supporters wantit to be public primarily only
because they know that making itpublic will pressure any GOP
senator who is consideringopposing her nomination.

(17:44):
So keep an eye on that and seewhat they do.
So let's, let's transition hereto the great state of Missouri.
We, we love Missouri, but, uh,we, we, we, we love Missouri,
right?
We do, we do, we love Missouri.
But I just don't understand whyMissourians keep voting for
democratic sponsored issues yet.

(18:06):
We keep electing these.
far right, like not even middleof the road Republicans.
It's just boggles my mind.
Like, so this past NovemberMissourians passed a pro choice
bill that basically would codifythe right for a woman to seek a
medical abortion in, in thestate.
The vote passed by 52 to 48%.

(18:29):
All our Republican legislatorshave taken office yet.
No providers as of today areproviding legal medical
abortions at the, at this verymoment.
How, how is this even legal?
Like we.
Both know that if an anti gaymarriage or a ban on drag queen

(18:49):
performances bill came up andpassed in November, that would
have been outlawed the very nextday.
These Republicans are movingvery, very slow to even let
people get abortions right now.
It blows my mind.
These, these MissouriRepublicans are fighting to make

(19:10):
Missouri once again, the mostpro life state in the nation
right now.
And we also saw how that, howthat works.
And 22 we were the, actually thefirst state that banned
abortions right after the Roe v.
Wade I mean, the politicians inthe state, it is very
interesting that people vote forthem in office because they are

(19:31):
working against what theirconstituents actually are voting
for.
You know, the Missourians forConstitutional Freedom raised
more than 31 million dollars toAnd it all went to TV ads and
things, while the opposite prolife section of that movement, I
think like a third of that wasraised.
I mean, that shows you what kindof support is there in the
state.
And the fact that this waspassed as law, yet the, they're,

(19:53):
they're trying to handcuff thissubject and do what they will
with it.
And it's going against whateveryone's wanting.
And it just makes no sense.
how they are able to do that.
It just boggles my mind.
But this isn't the first time,by the way, that Missourians
have voted in favor for aDemocratic styled bill.
Back in August of 2020,Missourians voted even more blue

(20:15):
for the expansion of Medicaid.
It won by 53%, yet the exgovernor Mike Parsons basically
killed the voters passage sayingit was just too expensive.
Also last November, we passed abill to increase the minimum
wage and the right for allworkers to earn paid sick leave.

(20:37):
Yet the Missouri Republicansonce again are also trying to
dismantle that bill.
It, it, it's crazy how.
They're so for like goodelections, thorough elections,
every vote matters.
Yet when we vote in favor fordemocratic style issues, they
won't even.

(20:58):
legalize the bill.
It blows my mind.
Well, and these politicians aregoing to get backing from the
national government.
I mean, the walk of life walkfor life was last Friday, and
they had huge movements in SanFrancisco and DC and Trump and
JD Vance made appearances.
I mean, they are making it knownwhere their stance is.
And there is a fear right nowfrom pro choice the pro choice

(21:19):
side about the fear of theComstock Act, a dormant law from
1873 that criminalizes theshipping of any materials used
in an abortion.
This would include abortionpills.
And Josh Hawley, here inMissouri, a Republican senator,
wants to make it a requirementthat women have to pick up
abortion medication in person.
So you put all this On top ofeach other and there it's just

(21:40):
one form of support that's goingto people are going to have to
keep paying attention to thissubject because it's going to
get worse.
Yeah.
Speaking of Missouri being sopro life.
Even though we're so quick toput someone to death that's in
prison.
One of our elected United StateHouse of Representatives, I
think his name is Bill BurrBurleson?
Bill Burleson?
I can't say his last name.

(22:00):
I don't really care about him.
He represents Missouri's 7thCongressional District, which is
in like deep southwesternMissouri, so of course it's very
red down there.
But he introduced a bill to theUnited States Congress that
Asking for the 14th amendment,which says something like, nor
shall any state deprive a personof life, liberty, or property

(22:22):
without due process of law, etcetera, et cetera, you know he
wants that amendment to say theright of life for each born and
pre born.
Human person, which would equateto if it got passed and in total
ban on abortions throughout theentire United States, if it gets
passed, I mean, and with how redour Congress is right now and

(22:48):
how red our Supreme court isright now, it's, It's going to
send shockwaves through thecountry if this actually goes
all the way through it'll go upto the Supreme Court.
So, you know, it'll be a fewyears and it is.
I mean, I do want to know we areto gay men.
Obviously, we're we have beensupporting this.
We've gone to marches supportingthis, but you know, I cannot

(23:09):
imagine how scary and Unnervingit would be to live.
I mean, I'm I'm from Texas beingin that deep state of Texas
where it takes hours to get outeven out of the state of Texas
and then getting in Louisianawhere you can't even get
anything done there treatmentwise.
And then you go to Florida.
I mean, to get any sort ofTreatment or abortion, anything.

(23:29):
If Josh Hawley does pass thisthing where he wants people to
pick up their abortion pills inperson, the ramifications of
that, if you are a woman in anysort of these states that are
surrounded by other red states,it's scary and crazy and the
costs that it takes to travel toeven get your human, basic human

rights met is https (23:46):
otter.
ai So this past week we sawSenate confirmation hearings of
RFK Jr.
I think he really wants to belike us state secretary of
health and human services orsomething.
We also saw his first cousin,former first daughter of the
late president, John F.
Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy callhim a predator.

(24:09):
She said, quote, I've knownBobby my whole life.
It's no surprise that he keepsbirds of prey as pets, because
Bobby himself is a predator.
I mean, he left a bear inCentral Park, but With that
let's play a little game of whosaid it.
I'm going to read you a quoteand you have to guess, Alex, you
have to guess if Michelle Obamasaid it, who has absolutely

(24:32):
nothing to do with the story, bythe way or if RFK jr.
Said it.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, let's go.
So here we go.
First one, fast food was a raretreat snacking between meals was
frowned upon.
I mean, we all had our share ofsoda chips and desserts, but
certainly not every day.
Okay.
And not at every meal.
Who said it?

(24:53):
I would say Michelle Obama.
Ding.
If we had a budget, we, I have alittle dinger here, but we don't
next.
Good job.
Thanks.
All right.
Who said it?
So people literally get addictedto, you know, Donuts and
packages and salted food and allthe sugar and all these other
ingredients.
And they mass poisoned theAmerican public.

(25:13):
Who said it?
I'm okay.
I'm going to say RFK justbecause I don't see Michelle
Obama saying mass poison.
Yes.
Good job.
RFK Jr.
said it.
All right.
Next one quote.
Here we go.
That's one of the things thatthe department of education

(25:34):
ought to be doing is to makesure school lunches are healthy.
Michelle Obama?
RFK Jr.
Seriously?
All right.
Here we go.
Here's the next one.
Parents are increasingly anxiousas they see their kids
developing diabetes, highcholesterol, high blood pressure
conditions that would have beenunthinkable to find in children

(25:55):
just a generation ago, MichelleObama, or RFK jr.
Michelle Obama.
Yes.
Good job.
Another one.
Here we go.
Get yourself in shape.
Start exercising.
Stop eating processed foods.
Michelle Obama, RFK.
Interesting.
Here's another one.

(26:15):
We're currently spendingbillions of dollars treating
obesity related conditions coststhat many of your companies pay
in the form of rising healthcareexpenses.
Expenses that will only continueto rise and affect your bottom
lines.
If we fail to act, I'm stillgoing to run with Michelle
Obama.
Yes.
Good job.
What is that for?
For you next.

(26:37):
All right.
And just imagine what number,here we go.
And just imagine what thatnumber would look like in 20
years from now.
If we stand and let today'sunhealthy kids grow into
unhealthy adults who becomeemployees of tomorrow, Michelle
Obama.
Yes, that's all I got.
That was a fun little, who saidit game.

(26:58):
What did you get, like five?
I think so.
I wasn't counting.
We really need to probably countnext time just so I can say I
actually officially won.
I like winning.
Moving on to the next subject.
So there is a lot happening inthe world, but one of the things
that I'm kind of.
Seeing a lot of just because itaffects me a little bit is these

(27:19):
immigration raids.
I mean, they are, they're goingon throughout the entire
country.
One of the places that's reallygetting hit hard right now is
Chicago.
Governor J.
D.
Pritzker has come out basicallystating his stance against it.
I mean, he's going to not get inthe way of it, but he's also not
supporting it or going to help,you know, any sort of action

(27:40):
moving forward when it comes totrying to deport people that
aren't criminals.
I think the main takeaway withall this is they're saying one
thing.
I mean, this is a running theme.
I feel like with this presidencyso far, they're saying one
thing, but they're actually,their actions are showing
another.
They're saying they're not justgoing after just criminals, but
or they're going to go afterjust criminals.

(28:01):
But that's not the case.
You know, they're going afterpeople.
They're scooping up people thatare, have no criminal record
that are actually working hardhere in this country.
And it's really striking fearamongst a lot of people in that
community.
People are scared and they'remaking it, they're making it
this chaotic mess.

(28:23):
Yeah.
Just some of these stories thatare just heartbreaking to hear
and absolutely like crazy tohear like that this day and age
that this is actually happeningin America.
So like for one story, I heard agrandfather was arrested for
opening his door to ice.
He thought one of his kids werehurt because he saw the police
gear.
Another kid, kid, basically hewas 25 years old.

(28:47):
Ice determined this kid wasdangerous due to a past home
invasion charge.
And when they showed up to hisfront door, he wasn't there.
You know where he was?
He was working a, he was atwork, a tax paying non citizen
is working.
And we went and basically we aredeporting him.

(29:08):
I mean, he's 25 years old.
He went to school frompreschool, graduated high
school.
So he's been here his whole lifeessentially.
And they're deporting him.
And when they deport him, he'sleaving behind a five year old
child.
It's really sad.
And then it's crazy how.
Oh, and then the California FarmBureau came out and released a

(29:31):
report saying migrant farmworkers are too scared to show
up for work because they'rescared of getting deported.
So essentially the citrusharvest in Central Valley,
California has come to a haltbecause They're scared.
The migrant farm workers arescared to show up to work.
And that is something thatpeople are saying, is that this
is going to affect the economy.

(29:51):
I mean, the agricultural sectorand construction trades
primarily filled withimmigrants.
I mean, the USDA, a study backin 2022 showed that the majority
of the workforce of farm workersare immigrants.
This, if you take them out ofthe equation, you know, Trump is
doing it.
People voted for Trump becauseof grocery prices and all these

(30:12):
things.
Well, what do you think is goingto happen when you start making
people so scared that they'renot coming to work in these
industries?
Things aren't going to bepicked, things aren't going to
be harvested, and prices aregoing to go up.
And we are going to see theeffects of this probably soon in
our grocery store prices.
And when people complain, giveit a little bit, but when people

(30:36):
start complaining about groceryprices, tell them, well, maybe
you shouldn't have.
Deported all these people or tryto there's also talk, which I
think is crazy.
They're thinking of puttingimmigrants at Guantanamo Bay.
There's this news, new storyabout them outfitting a section
of Guantanamo Bay.

(30:56):
That is not the same sectionthat the prisoners are in.
It's on another side of it.
But they're wanting to putpeople out there that are being
deported or between thedeportation, and there's this
argument that, okay, well, ifthey do that, how is that going
to look?
I mean, you're not going to beable to put women and Children
out there or the facilities aregoing to have to be completely,
you know, you know, Adjusted forthat, but or they just gonna put

(31:18):
all men out there.
I mean, there's just a whole lotof red tape along with this
idea, and it's gonna be veryinteresting to see how far Trump
takes it.
No red tape.
He'll just sign an executiveorder.
But yeah, it's it crazes.
It's crazy to me that ourgovernment can't figure out a
way to curb gun violence or stopschool shootings.
You know, I mean, it's just it'sIt's nuts, but let me also say

(31:42):
we don't have an immigrationproblem.
We have a pathway to citizenshipproblem.
You can't tell me if we hadmillions and millions of white
Caucasian European immigrantsflocking here to America that we
wouldn't have already createdsome sort of legislation to make
the pathway to citizenshipeasier for white people.

(32:03):
People for non citizens.
I truly feel the immigrationproblem has strong undertones of
racial discrimination.
And we've always had racialdiscrimination in this country,
our whole lives for actually ourwhole history.
If you think about it and DEIprograms.

(32:25):
helped helped those situations.
It helps you get a job if youwere a non white, but a great
applicant to work at this placeof work.
And we literally have apresident that's overturning
these DEI programs and all thatBS.
It just, it's really, reallysad.
Well, and this is going to sounda little bit off topic, but I
swear to you, it's not.
But if you look at like what'sgoing on with January 6th people

(32:47):
who they all got pardoned thatthat that starts this feeling
that his supporters can kind ofdo what they want.
And there is this fear that witheverything going on with these
immigration raids, will thisspark a sort of vigilante
vigilantism?
Or how do you say where peoplethat are supporters of Trump

(33:09):
start reporting on?
Businesses reporting that FBIthat they're seeing, you know,
immigrants here and there, like,is this going to be something
that's going to be worse andmore poisonous and just more
chaotic?
Because you have these peoplethat are Trump supporters that
think they can get away witheverything.
And they're going to startreporting people left and right
throughout this entire country,quote, helping ice and being

(33:29):
good citizens.
I mean, where is this gonna go?
It just is.
It's very unsettling.
And we'll see how you know,we'll see.
Yeah, so I can't even rememberwhat morning it was.
I think it was Tuesday morningwhen the entire nation literally
woke up to a federal ban ongrants and loans, like
everything was frozen.
Everything from Medicare to likefree school lunches, even

(33:52):
charities were just froze.
Like the Medicare site just wentoffline and it everyone lost
their minds because they didn'tknow what was actually
happening.
I think with the freezes, what'sgoing on too, and it's important
to note is would, if therewouldn't have been the amount of
people that stepped up in thiscountry and went against it,

(34:14):
what were Republican wereRepublicans really thinking they
could get away with this?
I mean, I think they reallythought they could shut down all
these places and it not knowingit affects nonprofits,
charities, public serviceprograms.
I mean, a lot of people, evenRepublicans.
pushed back.
And because they pushed back,then the government kind of was
like, Oh, well, oh, no, wedidn't mean to do that.

(34:34):
We actually meant this and thisand we're not gonna do this with
Medicare.
And oh, we never had this.
It's like they backtracked.
But if no one would have pushedback, would they have even
adjusted these, these, thesefreezes?
Yeah, it was It was just a wildday to watch all the newsreels
and all the posts come out andsee like what people were saying

(34:56):
and what the government wasn'tsaying and it was just
absolutely frightening.
And then we had Senator ChuckSchumer from New York.
He came out and spoke and hecalled this a constitutional
crisis.
It really was.
I mean, shit really hit the fanwhen, when this all went down.
And by the end of the day, afederal judge in Washington DC

(35:16):
put out a temporary stop of theban so it could all get sorted
out.
The next day the administrationsaid the ban was lifted.
So literally this is exactlywhat we told you last week.
That this was going to happen.
This administration and Trumpwill put forth bill after bill,
after bill, executive order,after executive order, and try

(35:39):
to push through so many new lawsjust to see what they can get
away with.
It's absolutely frightening tosee what is happening right now.
Yeah, I mean, this has worldwideimplications.
It's going to affect Ukraine.
It affects people in othercountries.
You know, Trump is swinging awrecking ball through the
federal government right nowbecause of his fears of, quote,

(36:00):
this deep state, this idea thatthey're running about this deep
state.
And it's honestly putting hisinterests above all his
constituents in this country.
I mean, he doesn't care.
He doesn't care.
And I mean, the CDC being takendown, that's going to affect us.
If this bird flu situationignites you know, there's so
much going on that it's hard towrap your mind around it.

(36:22):
How much he's freezing, how muchhe's shutting down federal
workers, even.
I mean, they were given anultimatum, basically, if they
wanted to quit, they could, andthey're going to get paid
through September, but they,everyone's saying that's not
going to happen.
A lot of people are saying, donot quit.
Quit because he's not going tobe able to pay you the funding
through the government has onlyhas only been approved through
March.
There's no way he's going to beable to promise payments through

(36:44):
September if there's no fundsthere to do that.
They were asked to resign.
They were asked to resign andthey need to be like put on
notice by February six, right?
And if you gave notice beforeFebruary six, you could get paid
throughout to the end ofSeptember, but it's not going to
happen.
It's a complete wash.
And what's very interesting isthe email that was sent out was

(37:04):
the same.
Type of email that when thatmusk went sent out to all of the
people that were working forTwitter The headline was fork in
the road Which was what muskliterally wrote in his email to
all the staff on Twitter Whichhe had done last year if you
remember so it's just veryinteresting how much musk
probably had a hand in this Andpeople who worked at Twitter at

(37:27):
the time, or X, now are in thesedepartments doing the same exact
thing to now the federalgovernment.
Wasn't the subject line of theTrump email to the federal
workers wasn't it the line,like, resign, or something?
I think it was fork in the road,the same exact subject that was
used in the Musk email.
I mean, I would just sort ofdeleted it.
They're so big on like notgetting like viruses on your

(37:48):
computer, but that's, it's nuts.
Okay, we need lighter news.
Yeah.
So we've gone through all that.
We're going to touch on somelighter things here.
So something I had read about,which scientists in Australia
discovered a protein in a plant.
oyster.
This oyster is called a Sydneyrock oyster.

(38:10):
But in my mind, I'm thinking,like, think of what oysters look
like, how gross they are.
They like literally put a needleor a syringe in this little
thing, took out this protein,and this protein can actually,
they're finding, can enhanceantibiotics, which doesn't,
Sound like a big deal, but itis.
That could be a game changerbecause if it can enhance

(38:34):
antibiotics, that would affectall antibiotics with diseases
and things.
I mean, this could be a giganticdiscovery that they just found.
Do you like oysters?
I used to like oysters, but nowI don't like them.
the idea of dying from them.
So now I don't like eating them.
I do too, but I don't know.
They're scary.

(38:54):
All right.
What else you got?
So now the next happy topic isin South Carolina last week,
well, Last year, which I don'tremember hearing about this, but
43 monkeys escaped a facilitycalled Alpha Genesis last year.
I guess a worker didn't put adoor on right or didn't lock

(39:14):
something right.
And these monkeys all got loose.
43 monkeys got loose.
And I guess they've been hangingaround the lab in the forest.
Forest or woods of that area,they've, for the last two
months, they've survived a snow.
I mean, they, they've, I guess,slowly been recaptured, but the
last four monkeys got recapturedthis past week.
They've been recapturing them byenticing these little monkeys

(39:36):
with.
peanut butter and jellysandwiches, which I find highly
adorable.
They were called rhesus macaquesand there are these cute little
brown monkeys.
They're like the size of a cat.
I looked up if we had them atthe St.
Louis zoo.
We don't.
A lot of zoos actually don'thave these types of monkeys.
They're known to be bred forresearch because these types of

(39:57):
monkeys are actually.
Which is very interesting andkind of crazy.
These monkeys are 90 have a 93percent match with their genes
with our human genes.
93 percent match.
That's kind of crazy to me.
So they're used a lot inresearch.
And I know, you know, that'ssad.
I know.
And I know this is a bit dark,because basically, they've been

(40:19):
recaptured, and they're now backin research facility.
But I did learn that becausethey are used so much with
research, many facilities thatdo use them maintain actually
colonies of these monkeys.
And so when they're done goingto research, they are put back
in these colonies or they aresent to sanctuaries once they're
done with them.
The only time that they areeuthanized is if they're old,

(40:40):
like really old, or if theyobviously have significant
health issues.
But, you know, many facilitiesnowadays are transparent about
their.
Ethics because of just thenature of the whole thing.
This, this reminds me, this ismy second Florida story.
Why, why did Florida come up somuch today?
When I lived in Pinellas County,which is like the little
peninsula right next to TampaBay, there was a loose monkey.

(41:03):
I guess it got loose from ahouse.
Cause people keep crazy animalsin Florida.
And.
It was on the loose.
It had to have been like forthree, four months and the
monkey could just survive inFlorida.
And so every time they spottedthe monkey, like it would be
breaking news reports and therewould be literally helicopters
flying over with cameras.

(41:26):
following this monkey.
And you just see this monkeyjump tree to tree to tree.
It was, it was so entertainingto watch.
And they, they ended up catchinghim.
What's funny is in this, I thinkin Texas they had monkeys escape
a zoo in Fort Worth or aroundthe Dallas area or something
last year too.
It's like the year that last, Iguess last year was the year of
the monkey.
I mean, all these monkeysescaped, but anyway.

(41:48):
Yeah.
So We're moving on to theclosing section of our podcast.
If you made it this far, we loveyou.
Thank you for listening.
Things to look and keep an eyeout on for the next week and the
next episode are the tariffs.
I, I heard last I heardterrorists have kind of taken a
second, second beeline story, Iguess right now.

(42:11):
They were supposed to start onFebruary 1st or something.
So I guess we'll see if thatactually happens this weekend.
And I guess we'll see if Tulsior RFK jr.
Gets, gets approved, nominatedto be in their roles that
they've been designated.
And.
Yeah, and I think we'll alsohave to look at, you know, when
it comes to this crash, wherethe direction will go with this,

(42:33):
with this investigation with airtraffic controllers and things.
I mean, the thing is with newsright now, there's so much
distraction.
We'll see kind of what happenswith what we actually can weed
through with thisadministration, but we'll try
our hardest and we'll try tobring that to you guys.
All right.
So That's it for us this week.
Thanks for joining us again andlistening.
We'll be back on next week.

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