March 21, 2025 • 27 mins
In episode 12 of the Civil Union podcast, hosts Alex and Ryan discuss life updates, including recent weather issues and hobbies like matcha drinks and movie marathons. They delve into political topics like a controversial bill in Texas aimed at curbing non-human behavior in schools, Chief Justice John Roberts' rare public statement responding to Trump, and the implications for handling judicial disagreements. The duo also plays their 'Red State, Blue State, or No State' game, addressing bizarre laws and policies across the USA. Additional topics include challenges to the 2024 election results in North Carolina, controversial actions by Pam Bondy against Tesla vandalism, and Trump's termination of Hunter and Ashley Biden's security details. To wrap up, they share quirky news stories and invite listeners to connect with them on social media.
00:00 Introduction to the Civil Union Podcast
00:54 Weather Woes and Patio Problems
02:08 Matcha Madness and Movie Marathons
04:32 Bird Nest Drama and Book Recommendations
06:51 Furries Bill and School Dress Codes
12:02 Supreme Court Chief Justice's Statement
17:03 Red State, Blue State, or No State Game
22:04 Quick News Stories and Odd News
26:50 Conclusion and Contact Information
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Welcome to the Civil Union, thepodcast where politics meets
partnership.
We're Alex and Ryan, a marriedcouple, navigating life and
debates in a conservative state.
We bring you sharp insights,bold opinions, and honest
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because when it comes topolitics, every voice matters,
and we're here to make surethey're heard.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Civil Union Podcast.
We are back for episode 12.
Can you believe we're at 12episodes now?
It's crazy.
We're just kicking'em out likehotcakes.
I know.
Two in one week too.
Wow.
You're welcome.
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Um, by the way, if you haven'talready, give us a follow on
Instagram or TikTok.
Um, that's our name is the CivilU.
That's just with the letter U.
Other than that, um, it's beena, it was a really nice week and
it got very, very windy and nowit's cold.
I love that.
It's cold again.
I don't sleep well when it'shotter out.
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I don't know, I my, until it'ssummer, my body just doesn't
acclimate back and forth like itdoes.
Yeah.
And then I'm dealing with likeshards of glass all over our
patio right now.
Like that hailstorm that we had,I didn't realize that the patio
lights that we hang have hangingover the.
Patio, I guess Hail hid it andit just shattered glass
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everywhere.
So I, I took the hose out and Itried to wash it off, and then
once that dried, I went out thenext day.
And I mean, there's still justpieces of glass everywhere.
It's so annoying.
Yeah.
And you know, after, now thatyou're talking about it, I
didn't even think of the hail.
I, when you were saying thelights broke, I'm like, God, the
wind was so strong.
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And then I was like.
Now it makes a lot more sensethat it was hail.
Well, yeah, and I think the hailwas just pounding the pieces of
glass that actually broke and itjust got into these little tiny
pieces.
And so we gotta get like the,what do you call it, the leaf
blower out and try to like pushit away or something.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I've been in a random matchakick this week.
Matcha, like green tea, littlepowder.
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I've been.
All about it.
I've even thought about likebuying it and making my own,
like smoothies or something withit.
I don't know.
I don't even know where it camefrom, but I've been in a
gigantic maa and I'll get likeextra scoops in my Starbucks
drink.
Um, Starbucks doesn't put likethe sugar anymore in the maa, so
you have to ask for like syrupsand stuff.
Anyway, it's a whole, when you.
Go down the matcha hole.
It is insane how many matchathere are.
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How many types?
It's, I can't even, I don't evenunderstand half of it.
I just wanna drink a deliciousbeverage.
But anyway, also, I've beenstill on my movie kick.
I was so far behind this year onmovies.
I try to have 10 a month and Iwas like, like 20.
Just like, oh, not even likefive, like last week.
So I've been going throughmovies like crazy and two of the
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movies I watched this pastweekend, or I guess since the
last episode even, um, was AReal Pain, which was the one
with, um, kin's Brother, the onethat won the Oh yeah.
Golden Globe and stuff.
It was pretty good.
I, it was a little heavier thanI thought it was'cause it deals
a lot with the Holocaust andJews and things, and they're
taking a tour in that area ofthe country.
It was very good though.
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And you can see why he wonawards.
It was just, it wasn't as lightas I thought it was gonna be.
And then I also watched thismovie on Netflix.
It's called Saturday Night, andit's not even a Netflix produced
movie.
It's um, it was a normalproduced movie, but it's about
the very, very first show ofSaturday Night Live.
And it's not a documentary, it'san actual movie.
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And it was so.
So good.
I don't really understand how itwasn't up for more awards.
I actually, the lead actor of itwho plays, who's Lauren
Michaels, um, he was the littlekid from Fable Men's, from
Steven Spielberg's movie and nowhe's, playing l Michaels and
Saturday Night Live or Saturdaynight, and he was up for a
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Golden Globe nomination.
I totally missed that.
Um, for best actor, for thismovie, but it has a huge cast of
people.
Um, I would highly recommend it.
I'm not even a big SaturdayNight Live fan.
Like I don't wa I am, I don'tmind it, but I just don't watch
it every week.
And I could even, when watchingthe movie, could recognize all
these different actors thatplayed.
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These famous people like Lucciand stuff and Chevy Chase.
They did a great job casting.
Anyway, those were my littlemovies I wanted to Nice.
Add in there.
Oh, the, the birds have movedback.
By the way, have you noticed,Alex, you told me that you found
eggs.
Yeah.
Well, so in.
2020.
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Like which was what?
Five year anniversary Now forCOVI, we had blue birds move
into the top little light on ourfront porch where everyone
accesses it.
And it was fun to watch'cause weweren't going anywhere.
We were on lockdown.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And it was Blue Birds.
Well, this time it's a littlebrown bird and.
Oh my God.
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I was gonna remove the nest andI got up there yesterday.
I took the little oberweiscooler and I stood up and I saw
that, ugh, there's eggs in therenow.
And so I'm gonna let it go.
It it, even though I'm verypro-choice, I'm just letting it
go.
I'm going to let the birdshatch.
The birds made their choice.
So we got, they did.
They made their choice.
Made their choice, and moved in.
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Again, we have to support, thisis the brown birds, though.
Those are cuter.
I think blue birds are kind ofmean blue.
Those blue birds were mean.
And what people don't realizewhen we, when why we're
mentioning this, is because itdoes uproot our life.
Because when they put a nestright at that light at our front
door, it means we can't use ourfront door.
All season.
And these poor delivery driversthat have to deliver stuff,
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they, I remember when we hadthose bluebird, they were like
attacking people trying todeliver packages.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we'll see how this brown birdplays out or whatever.
So, and we, you know, this issomething we'll be stuck with
for at least like two to threemonths because it takes that
long for'em to hatch.
So this will be an ongoingstory.
I'm so sure of it.
Oh, I'm sure of it, yes.
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also just wanna throw outanother thing if you're a big
reader.
I'm almost done with the Throwna Glass series, which thanks to
a friend, I've been addicted toit since last summer.
Sarah J Mass, anything, who isthe author I'm on.
I mean, God, I think I've been,I've been reading this series
since July and I'm.
I still have like 40% left.
I mean, it's like thousands uponthousands.
These books are huge, but are sogood.
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I mean, Ryan, you should readsome of these books.
You would find them, you wouldfind'em entertaining.
They get so raunchy so fast.
It's.
Hilarious.
You, you know, these, thesebooks are dressed up as like
fantasy series, but they'rereally like smut.
Like they're, some of these arereally smutty and these women
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that are just reading'em athome, their husbands have no
idea what they're reading.
It's so funny.
Oh, yeah.
Speaking of raunchy, have youever heard of furries?
I have heard of furries, butisn't it like when people get
into, like dressing up asanimals?
Yeah.
They like dress up as animalsand like have sex or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so there's this new billthat was filed in and in the
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Texas house that would preventstudents from behaving like
anything other than a human.
So not the sex thing, but it,it's, it's called the furries
bill.
So it's like The name of it isForbidding Unlawful
Representation of Roleplayingand Education, otherwise known
as the Furries Act.
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How long did it take them tocome up with that?
Yeah, right.
I know.
F-U-R-R-I-E-S.
It was filed by Austin areaRepublicans.
Uh, Steve.
GERDs or ess, I can't pronouncethat.
Of course, he's a Republicanthough.
And this bill would quote,prohibit any non-human behavior
by student, including presentinghimself or herself on days other
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than exempt days as anythingother than being a human being.
I mean, I guess this meanstheater kids won't be performing
cats anytime soon in Texas.
So true.
Which by the way, is so weird.
I actually talked about themusical this past week, Kaz.
It's a great musical, way betterlive than the movie, If you go
see that musical and you don'twanna dress up as a cat
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afterward and won the reallycool outfits, something is wrong
with you.
But I will say, I do think it'sweird that.
They're labeling this billfurries because if it is, I mean
to me and you, it seems like amore of a sexual thing.
It's like, why are we mentioningthat word with kids in school
and expressionism anyway, soodd.
Yeah, so this, this potentiallaw would allow for exempt days
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such as like Halloween or otherschool dress up days.
But the bill defines.
Non-human behavior as any typeof behavior or accessory
displayed by a student in aschool district other than
behaviors or accessories,typically displayed by a member
of the homo sapien species.
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Oh my God.
So provided examples of thespill include using a litter box
for the passing of stool orurine This was always a fake
news, rubbish story.
and so clearly thisrepresentative like believes
that it was true.
Um, another bullet point of itis using fur other than
naturally occurring hair or awig made to look like human
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hair, artificial animal-likeears.
Students who bark, meow, hiss,or make other animal noises that
are not human speech or evenlicking oneself or others for
the purpose of grooming ormaintenance.
I mean, my God, does this guyhave absolutely nothing to do?
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I looked him up on Wikipedia.
This guy is like, he's 39 yearsold, so he's like our age.
Married, of course, and I guesshe's just.
Doesn't like animals orsomething.
It's such a weird bill.
Such a weird bill.
I mean, what the hell?
First off, I know because I comefrom an artistic background of
theater, art, and even went to aliberal arts college.
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I was always around people whobeat their own drum, if you
will.
A lot of the kids who.
Dress up in this way and showexpression with animal ears, fur
hats or whatever are the samekids who will grow up and go to
Comic-Con and dress up to showexpression in things they enjoy.
It's not a form of identity asmuch as a form of expression.
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It's not a form of sexualanything.
It's just the way they're gonnaexpress themselves, especially
if you live in an area thatsuppresses those things.
Or a very conservative area.
A lot of times dressing inoutfits or costumes or El ears,
animal ears is a way for you toexpress emotion, let kids be
kids.
Hell, I even have a fur hat withears on it.
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I mean, it's from a companycalled God and I make sure you
never leave with it on.
Well, it's from Spirit Hoods,and it was all the trend with
the.
Festival circuit.
So it's more for like musicfestivals, but I don't, I mean,
I don't wear it out randomlyduring the day, but you don't,
if we have a kid and they wantedto wear it, I would probably
support them in it.
another second point I wannapoint out too, kids who may show
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these sounds like barking,hissing.
They could actually be showingsigns of, and let me just pre
preface, I'm not a doctor, but Iwork in a pediatric hospital and
deal with these types of kids ona weekly basis.
But kids who do those types ofsounds typically show other
signs towards having autism or ADHD, or could be something
called stemming, which is partof autism.
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A kid could also have Tourettes.
I mean, just think this, I justthink this bill allows for.
Pure discrimination.
I would hope kids with thesehealth conditions would be seen
under a different standard andthey're barking or hissing,
wouldn't get'em in trouble.
But with the potentialdismantling of the Department of
Education, it's not verypromising that these kids won't
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be targeted.
Well, I hope Texas.
Has better things to do thanworry about, you know, the
Furries Act.
So who's wearing animal ears?
My gosh.
Anyways.
Also this week, Supreme CourtChief Justice John Roberts,
issued a rare public statementto rebuke an idea raised by
Trump hours after the presidentsaid a federal judge who was
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here in a deportation case.
Should be impeached.
Robert said quote, for more thantwo centuries, it has been
established that impeachment isnot an appropriate response to
disagreement concerning ajudicial decision.
The normal appellate reviewprocess exists for that purpose.
End quote, Trump had calledfederal Judge James Boberg, a
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radical left lunatic and asocial media post, and said that
the judge should be impeached.
On Saturday, judge Boasbergordered the administration to
return planes carrying migrantsthat were said to be of a
Venezuelan gang back to theUnited States while he
considered whether their removalwas lawful.
The planes, however, did notturn around.
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Yeah, A statement by theadministration is saying they
were outside the US airspace andtherefore outside jurisdiction.
This case has emerged as aflashpoint and a larger debate
over presidential power and therole of the courts in reviewing
the actions of the executivebranch, the Chief Justice's
statement did not take sides onthat debate, and he has often
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taken a broad view of thepresident's authority, notably
in his majority opinion, inJuly, granting a President's
substantial immunity.
From prosecution.
His statement instead made amodest point as it came in the
face of risking calls forimpeachment, not just by Trump,
but also by his network ofsupporters, which have
complained that judges haveblocked a series of the
president's initial policymoves.
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The correct reaction to a rulingthat a party disagrees with the
Chief Justice wrote is to filean appeal.
Yeah, there is no moderntradition of impeaching judges
for their rulings.
Just eight federal judges havebeen impeached, convicted, or
removed in the history of thecountry most for criminal or
personal behavior.
Yeah, and it takes just amajority vote in the House of
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Representatives to impeach ajudge.
But two thirds of the Senatemust vote to convict, meaning
Republican senators would needsubstantial support from the
Democrats.
It's very rare for a SupremeCourt justice to release a
statement like, the one thatJustice Roberts did.
It, was reminiscent of two earlyones that he has also spoke upon
in 2018.
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He defended the independence andintegrity of the federal
judiciary.
After Trump called a judge whohad ruled against his
administration's asylum policy,an Obama judge.
In response he wrote, we do nothave Obama judges or Trump
judges, Bush judges or Clintonjudges.
what we have Is an extraordinarygroup of dedicated judges doing
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their level best to give equalright to those appearing before
them.
Two years later, he denouncedChuck Schumer of New York for
comments.
At a rally outside the SupremeCourt, Schumer attacks two of
Trump's appointees in responseto the court hearing a major
abortion case.
Yeah, and all of this is comingafter weeks upon weeks of
stories we've been telling you.
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The crazy stories we've talkedabout are now hitting the
courts.
I mean, here's a list of some of'em.
Mahmud Khalil, the recentColumbia University graduate who
is detained by federalimmigration agents called his
arrested direct consequence forexercising my right to free
speech about the Palestiniancause.
He was prominent figure inpro-Palestinian demonstrations
Act.
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Columbia, who is currently beingheld at a Louisiana Detention
Center.
A judge also blocked a policythat would expel transgender
troops.
Yet the current presidentavoided the military draft five
times during the Vietnam War.
U-S-A-I-D shutdown has beenhalted by a federal judge as
well, so yeah, and the reasoningfor Justice Robert's statement
today is over the deportationflights of potential Venezuelan
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gang members, and The Trumpadministration used three
flights.
Bound for El Salvador to deporthundreds of Venezuelans.
Over the weekend, one of theplanes left a Texas airport
after the federal judge issued awritten order, halting any
deportations.
On top of all this, do youremember from one of our first
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episodes I talked about the costof these planes he was using?
He wasn't at the time usingnormal commercial sized planes
to deport.
He was using military aircraft.
I looked up the tail numbers,the three tail numbers of these
planes that is in question, andthey all looked to be commercial
planes actually, which.
I do think if they had beenmilitary aircraft like he had
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been doing before, this would bea lot more of a cut and dry
story From the bench, judgeBoberg verbally ordered the
planes that were in the air toreturn back to the United
States.
The judge's written orderhalting, the deportation flights
was posted around 7:25 PM thatday.
Like I, I truly believe thatwhat happened on Saturday is an
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an impeachable offense.
Um, I, I don't think this is thelast time we're gonna hear of
this case, so it's prettyinteresting.
Yeah, absolutely.
We're gonna be hearing moreabout it.
Moving on to the little funsegment, red State, blue State,
or.
No state.
We're gonna be playing this gameagain.
This is our third week running.
You know, you do a pretty goodjob at this part, I think
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actually.
Um, we'll see how you do today.
I came up with more policies andlaws, some being real, some
being fake, and you had to guesswhether it's from a red state,
blue state, or no state.
So let's get started.
Alright, let's do it in thefirst.
Policy in this state, billboardsare outlawed.
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Red state, blue state or nostate?
No state.
Blue state.
Um, can you guess which one?
Yeah, let me think.
Uh, it's going to be Vermont.
Hawaii.
Really interesting.
And if you think about it, wedidn't see any billboards in
Hawaii and I thought about thattoo, and I was like, huh, they
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have no billboards.
It makes sense though,'cause Iguess they had passed it because
of the nature and all that andthe views.
They didn't wanna have that.
I guess it's been law there fora really long time.
Interesting.
In this state, it's illegal toget married if you have a
perennial disease or vd.
Red state, blue state or noState?
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Red State, correct.
Which state?
South Dakota, Nebraska.
I always get the region.
You do, and when I saidNebraska, I felt like Miss
Congeniality.
Anyway, in this state, theycreated a policy that restricts
the mentioning of politicalideologies before high school,
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red State, blue state, or nostate.
Red state, no state made up.
Ah, but that is a prettyinteresting idea if you didn't
allow teachers or anyone tomention political ideologies to
anyone until they wereinfluenced in high school
anyway.
In this state, drunk drivershave to pay child support.
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If they kill a parent in a DUIaccident, red State, blue state,
or no State.
Red State, correct.
Which state?
Georgia.
Tennessee region.
I look at the region, it'scalled Bentley's Law, which you
know that should be a nationwidelaw.
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I think that's a great law.
In this state, they created abill called Quote, the Public
Transit for All bill thatprovides state funding, the
bank, public transportation,free for everyone.
Red state, blue state, or nostate?
I'm gonna say blue State.
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No.
State made a in this state it'sillegal to hunt whales.
Red state, blue state or no?
State?
Red State, correct.
Which state?
Alaska, Kansas.
Whale hunting in Kansas?
Yes.
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Wild.
It is the most random thing'cause they're landlocked, but
it is an actual thing anyway.
Who know?
Who knows?
In this state it's illegal topump your own gas.
Oh, uh, I know this one.
New Jersey.
Oh, New Jersey.
You were right.
Everyone knows that it's, andthat's a blue state.
Uh, this law was created toprotect jobs for gas station
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attendants, which I didn't knowthat.
I, I had gone to New Jersey tooas a kid, and they filled our
gas tank and that was soawkward.
But it makes sense that theywere doing it to, you know, help
people not lose their jobs.
'cause if you think about it, noother place, no other gas
stations allowed that.
And that's an actual job anyway.
All right.
In this state, they created alaw called Quote, the Silent
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Shopping Law, which says thatall grocery stores must
designate one hour per week forsilent shopping where no one is
allowed to talk and no music canbe played.
Red state, blue state, or nostate, no state.
Correct.
That's made up.
Where did you come up withthese?
I have help, but it's reallyfun, you know, and that actually
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makes a lot of sense becauseeven movie theaters now do like
sensory, um, viewings becausethey wanna lower the volume.
It's for people with highsensory.
So that actually would make alot of sense.
'cause some of these grocerystores on weekends, God, we go
and they're so loud and they'reso crowded.
If I had sensory issues, Iwouldn't even want to.
Step into a grocery store.
So I think it'd be great if theydid that like one hour set aside
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every couple days to where itallows people to go shopping in
quiet and in peace.
It'd be great.
Focus on your grocery, grocerylist.
Alright.
That's it.
That was it.
That's it.
That was eight question.
Yeah.
And you actually got, wow.
Well, I get the regions, you geta region.
It's hard to guess the state.
It is really hard to guess the,like why did, I guess South
Dakota and then about that VDthing.
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Alaska was a good guess with thewhale thing though, because that
would make a lot of sense.
Not.
What was it?
I don't even remember.
Landlocked state.
Okay, so here's some other quickstories for you.
Um, a collation of over 200North Carolina Juris Senior
State government officials, barleaders practicing attorneys,
issued a joint statement toJefferson Griffin, urging him to
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drop his lawsuit, challengingthe 2024 election results.
For a seat on the North CarolinaSupreme Court, the letter
highlights the importance ofupholding the integrity of the
judicial system and respectingthe will of the voters.
The letter comes as NorthCarolina of appeals prepares to
hear arguments.
In Griffin's case later thisweek, last month.
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Wake County Superior Courtdenied Griffin's demand to
discard some 65,000 ballots.
A decision he's now appealingdespite multiple recounts
confirming his loss.
Griffin continues to seek areversal of the election
outcome.
Griffin lost by 734 votes out ofthe 5.5 million cast in that
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state.
This remains the only undecidedrace nationally for the 2024
election, and of course, he's arepublican.
another story for you, PamBondy.
Our attorney general right nowcalls all Tesla vandalism,
domestic terrorism, promisingsteep consequences, like, will
she call school shootings,domestic terrorism, Or is that
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just way too liberal for me toeven think about?
Supposedly, some of the peoplecharged were in possession of
Inc.
She even said this incendiarydevices such as AR fifteens.
It's funny how it's somethingworth noting when it's on a car
dealership, but not when there'sAR fifteens in schools.
What is interesting is the wholepoint of domestic terrorism is
that vandals are trying toinfluence the government, but
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time and time again, thisadministration is.
Saying, Elon isn't a governmentofficial.
He's basically just Trump'sfriend.
So moving forward, arePresident's friends covered
under this?
Can friends of the presidentinfluence the government that
much?
Is that normal anyways, Yeah.
And here's another one for you.
Trump takes Hunter and AshleyBiden's.
Security detail Trump's ending,hunter and Ashley Biden's.
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Security detail immediatelyTrump said on social media that
he objected to what he said.
Were 18 agents assigned toHunter Biden's Protective
detail.
While he was in South, Africalast week, he said Ashley Biden
has 13 agents assigned to herdetail and she will be taken off
the list as well.
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Former presidents and theirspouses receive.
Lifelong secret serviceprotection under federal law,
but the protection afforded totheir immediate families over
the age of 16 ends when theyleave office.
However, outgoing presidents canextend protection up to six
months after leaving office,which is what Biden did.
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Trump did the same for hischildren when, when he left
office in 21 Bush and Obama,they all did the same.
So that's.
Crazy to think, but it soundsvery targeted to It is very
targeted crabs.
He's very, very butt hurt overJoe Biden winning.
I guess I have no idea.
So stupid.
some other light stories foryou.
So, A massive parasite carryingsnail was found in Brooklyn's
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Prospect Park, The invasivegiant African snail Elon Musk Is
a risk to public health becauseit can carry meningitis, get fax
people.
That is so random.
So random.
Brooklyn Park.
I have one for you.
So a Texas woman was accused ofabusing a corpse last weekend in
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Houston.
She is or was a 34-year-old inBalmer, and she chose to
mutilate a Mr.
Rodriguez, who was 58 at thetime of his death of natural
causes.
Well, I guess Rodriguez was aregister.
Sex offender and was chargedwith sexual assault back in
2001.
the embalmer while embalming,the guy stabbed his body twice
in the groin and then cut offhis penis and placed it in his
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mouth.
And this was all witnessed bytwo other workers, I mean.
Whose side would you be on?
In this story, the directornoticed that Rodriguez's groin
area looked disfigured and askedLauder Melk to the woman's name
about it.
In response, Lauder Melkallegedly covered Rodriguez's
lower body with a towel, andreplied that the corpse had a
lot going on with him per thedocument the woman turned
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herself in last week.
One comment I read with thisstory said.
He didn't feel a thing while I'msure his victim suffers every
day, so no, I don't feel bad forhim at all, which is a very fair
point.
Yeah, there's actually a moviealong the same lines called Hard
Candy with Elliot Page and it'spretty entertaining.
It's, you know, in this kind ofinstance I was also reading that
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there's like a GoFundMe beingraised to pay for her legal
bills, but she obviously isprobably out of a job so.
I would think so.
That's crazy.
Anyways, anyways, uh, that's,that's it for us today.
So thank you guys so much forlistening.
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Welcome to the Civil Union, thepodcast where politics meets
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We're Alex and Ryan, a marriedcouple, navigating life and
debates in a conservative state.
We bring you sharp insights,bold opinions, and honest
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Tune in for a real talk, a touchof humor, and plenty of passion
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Welcome to another episode ofthe Civil Union Podcast.
We are back for episode 12.
Can you believe we're at 12episodes now?
It's crazy.
We're just kicking'em out likehotcakes.
I know.
Two in one week too.
Wow.
You're welcome.
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Instagram or TikTok.
Um, that's our name is the CivilU.
That's just with the letter U.
Other than that, um, it's beena, it was a really nice week and
it got very, very windy and nowit's cold.
I love that.
It's cold again.
I don't sleep well when it'shotter out.
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I don't know, I my, until it'ssummer, my body just doesn't
acclimate back and forth like itdoes.
Yeah.
And then I'm dealing with likeshards of glass all over our
patio right now.
Like that hailstorm that we had,I didn't realize that the patio
lights that we hang have hangingover the.
Patio, I guess Hail hid it andit just shattered glass
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everywhere.
So I, I took the hose out and Itried to wash it off, and then
once that dried, I went out thenext day.
And I mean, there's still justpieces of glass everywhere.
It's so annoying.
Yeah.
And you know, after, now thatyou're talking about it, I
didn't even think of the hail.
I, when you were saying thelights broke, I'm like, God, the
wind was so strong.
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And then I was like.
Now it makes a lot more sensethat it was hail.
Well, yeah, and I think the hailwas just pounding the pieces of
glass that actually broke and itjust got into these little tiny
pieces.
And so we gotta get like the,what do you call it, the leaf
blower out and try to like pushit away or something.
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I've been in a random matchakick this week.
Matcha, like green tea, littlepowder.
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I've been.
All about it.
I've even thought about likebuying it and making my own,
like smoothies or something withit.
I don't know.
I don't even know where it camefrom, but I've been in a
gigantic maa and I'll get likeextra scoops in my Starbucks
drink.
Um, Starbucks doesn't put likethe sugar anymore in the maa, so
you have to ask for like syrupsand stuff.
Anyway, it's a whole, when you.
Go down the matcha hole.
It is insane how many matchathere are.
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How many types?
It's, I can't even, I don't evenunderstand half of it.
I just wanna drink a deliciousbeverage.
But anyway, also, I've beenstill on my movie kick.
I was so far behind this year onmovies.
I try to have 10 a month and Iwas like, like 20.
Just like, oh, not even likefive, like last week.
So I've been going throughmovies like crazy and two of the
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movies I watched this pastweekend, or I guess since the
last episode even, um, was AReal Pain, which was the one
with, um, kin's Brother, the onethat won the Oh yeah.
Golden Globe and stuff.
It was pretty good.
I, it was a little heavier thanI thought it was'cause it deals
a lot with the Holocaust andJews and things, and they're
taking a tour in that area ofthe country.
It was very good though.
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And you can see why he wonawards.
It was just, it wasn't as lightas I thought it was gonna be.
And then I also watched thismovie on Netflix.
It's called Saturday Night, andit's not even a Netflix produced
movie.
It's um, it was a normalproduced movie, but it's about
the very, very first show ofSaturday Night Live.
And it's not a documentary, it'san actual movie.
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And it was so.
So good.
I don't really understand how itwasn't up for more awards.
I actually, the lead actor of itwho plays, who's Lauren
Michaels, um, he was the littlekid from Fable Men's, from
Steven Spielberg's movie and nowhe's, playing l Michaels and
Saturday Night Live or Saturdaynight, and he was up for a
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Golden Globe nomination.
I totally missed that.
Um, for best actor, for thismovie, but it has a huge cast of
people.
Um, I would highly recommend it.
I'm not even a big SaturdayNight Live fan.
Like I don't wa I am, I don'tmind it, but I just don't watch
it every week.
And I could even, when watchingthe movie, could recognize all
these different actors thatplayed.
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These famous people like Lucciand stuff and Chevy Chase.
They did a great job casting.
Anyway, those were my littlemovies I wanted to Nice.
Add in there.
Oh, the, the birds have movedback.
By the way, have you noticed,Alex, you told me that you found
eggs.
Yeah.
Well, so in.
2020.
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Like which was what?
Five year anniversary Now forCOVI, we had blue birds move
into the top little light on ourfront porch where everyone
accesses it.
And it was fun to watch'cause weweren't going anywhere.
We were on lockdown.
And I was like, oh, okay.
And it was Blue Birds.
Well, this time it's a littlebrown bird and.
Oh my God.
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I was gonna remove the nest andI got up there yesterday.
I took the little oberweiscooler and I stood up and I saw
that, ugh, there's eggs in therenow.
And so I'm gonna let it go.
It it, even though I'm verypro-choice, I'm just letting it
go.
I'm going to let the birdshatch.
The birds made their choice.
So we got, they did.
They made their choice.
Made their choice, and moved in.
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Again, we have to support, thisis the brown birds, though.
Those are cuter.
I think blue birds are kind ofmean blue.
Those blue birds were mean.
And what people don't realizewhen we, when why we're
mentioning this, is because itdoes uproot our life.
Because when they put a nestright at that light at our front
door, it means we can't use ourfront door.
All season.
And these poor delivery driversthat have to deliver stuff,
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they, I remember when we hadthose bluebird, they were like
attacking people trying todeliver packages.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we'll see how this brown birdplays out or whatever.
So, and we, you know, this issomething we'll be stuck with
for at least like two to threemonths because it takes that
long for'em to hatch.
So this will be an ongoingstory.
I'm so sure of it.
Oh, I'm sure of it, yes.
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also just wanna throw outanother thing if you're a big
reader.
I'm almost done with the Throwna Glass series, which thanks to
a friend, I've been addicted toit since last summer.
Sarah J Mass, anything, who isthe author I'm on.
I mean, God, I think I've been,I've been reading this series
since July and I'm.
I still have like 40% left.
I mean, it's like thousands uponthousands.
These books are huge, but are sogood.
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I mean, Ryan, you should readsome of these books.
You would find them, you wouldfind'em entertaining.
They get so raunchy so fast.
It's.
Hilarious.
You, you know, these, thesebooks are dressed up as like
fantasy series, but they'rereally like smut.
Like they're, some of these arereally smutty and these women
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that are just reading'em athome, their husbands have no
idea what they're reading.
It's so funny.
Oh, yeah.
Speaking of raunchy, have youever heard of furries?
I have heard of furries, butisn't it like when people get
into, like dressing up asanimals?
Yeah.
They like dress up as animalsand like have sex or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so there's this new billthat was filed in and in the
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Texas house that would preventstudents from behaving like
anything other than a human.
So not the sex thing, but it,it's, it's called the furries
bill.
So it's like The name of it isForbidding Unlawful
Representation of Roleplayingand Education, otherwise known
as the Furries Act.
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How long did it take them tocome up with that?
Yeah, right.
I know.
F-U-R-R-I-E-S.
It was filed by Austin areaRepublicans.
Uh, Steve.
GERDs or ess, I can't pronouncethat.
Of course, he's a Republicanthough.
And this bill would quote,prohibit any non-human behavior
by student, including presentinghimself or herself on days other
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than exempt days as anythingother than being a human being.
I mean, I guess this meanstheater kids won't be performing
cats anytime soon in Texas.
So true.
Which by the way, is so weird.
I actually talked about themusical this past week, Kaz.
It's a great musical, way betterlive than the movie, If you go
see that musical and you don'twanna dress up as a cat
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afterward and won the reallycool outfits, something is wrong
with you.
But I will say, I do think it'sweird that.
They're labeling this billfurries because if it is, I mean
to me and you, it seems like amore of a sexual thing.
It's like, why are we mentioningthat word with kids in school
and expressionism anyway, soodd.
Yeah, so this, this potentiallaw would allow for exempt days
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such as like Halloween or otherschool dress up days.
But the bill defines.
Non-human behavior as any typeof behavior or accessory
displayed by a student in aschool district other than
behaviors or accessories,typically displayed by a member
of the homo sapien species.
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Oh my God.
So provided examples of thespill include using a litter box
for the passing of stool orurine This was always a fake
news, rubbish story.
and so clearly thisrepresentative like believes
that it was true.
Um, another bullet point of itis using fur other than
naturally occurring hair or awig made to look like human
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hair, artificial animal-likeears.
Students who bark, meow, hiss,or make other animal noises that
are not human speech or evenlicking oneself or others for
the purpose of grooming ormaintenance.
I mean, my God, does this guyhave absolutely nothing to do?
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I looked him up on Wikipedia.
This guy is like, he's 39 yearsold, so he's like our age.
Married, of course, and I guesshe's just.
Doesn't like animals orsomething.
It's such a weird bill.
Such a weird bill.
I mean, what the hell?
First off, I know because I comefrom an artistic background of
theater, art, and even went to aliberal arts college.
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I was always around people whobeat their own drum, if you
will.
A lot of the kids who.
Dress up in this way and showexpression with animal ears, fur
hats or whatever are the samekids who will grow up and go to
Comic-Con and dress up to showexpression in things they enjoy.
It's not a form of identity asmuch as a form of expression.
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It's not a form of sexualanything.
It's just the way they're gonnaexpress themselves, especially
if you live in an area thatsuppresses those things.
Or a very conservative area.
A lot of times dressing inoutfits or costumes or El ears,
animal ears is a way for you toexpress emotion, let kids be
kids.
Hell, I even have a fur hat withears on it.
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I mean, it's from a companycalled God and I make sure you
never leave with it on.
Well, it's from Spirit Hoods,and it was all the trend with
the.
Festival circuit.
So it's more for like musicfestivals, but I don't, I mean,
I don't wear it out randomlyduring the day, but you don't,
if we have a kid and they wantedto wear it, I would probably
support them in it.
another second point I wannapoint out too, kids who may show
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these sounds like barking,hissing.
They could actually be showingsigns of, and let me just pre
preface, I'm not a doctor, but Iwork in a pediatric hospital and
deal with these types of kids ona weekly basis.
But kids who do those types ofsounds typically show other
signs towards having autism or ADHD, or could be something
called stemming, which is partof autism.
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A kid could also have Tourettes.
I mean, just think this, I justthink this bill allows for.
Pure discrimination.
I would hope kids with thesehealth conditions would be seen
under a different standard andthey're barking or hissing,
wouldn't get'em in trouble.
But with the potentialdismantling of the Department of
Education, it's not verypromising that these kids won't
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be targeted.
Well, I hope Texas.
Has better things to do thanworry about, you know, the
Furries Act.
So who's wearing animal ears?
My gosh.
Anyways.
Also this week, Supreme CourtChief Justice John Roberts,
issued a rare public statementto rebuke an idea raised by
Trump hours after the presidentsaid a federal judge who was
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here in a deportation case.
Should be impeached.
Robert said quote, for more thantwo centuries, it has been
established that impeachment isnot an appropriate response to
disagreement concerning ajudicial decision.
The normal appellate reviewprocess exists for that purpose.
End quote, Trump had calledfederal Judge James Boberg, a
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radical left lunatic and asocial media post, and said that
the judge should be impeached.
On Saturday, judge Boasbergordered the administration to
return planes carrying migrantsthat were said to be of a
Venezuelan gang back to theUnited States while he
considered whether their removalwas lawful.
The planes, however, did notturn around.
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Yeah, A statement by theadministration is saying they
were outside the US airspace andtherefore outside jurisdiction.
This case has emerged as aflashpoint and a larger debate
over presidential power and therole of the courts in reviewing
the actions of the executivebranch, the Chief Justice's
statement did not take sides onthat debate, and he has often
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taken a broad view of thepresident's authority, notably
in his majority opinion, inJuly, granting a President's
substantial immunity.
From prosecution.
His statement instead made amodest point as it came in the
face of risking calls forimpeachment, not just by Trump,
but also by his network ofsupporters, which have
complained that judges haveblocked a series of the
president's initial policymoves.
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The correct reaction to a rulingthat a party disagrees with the
Chief Justice wrote is to filean appeal.
Yeah, there is no moderntradition of impeaching judges
for their rulings.
Just eight federal judges havebeen impeached, convicted, or
removed in the history of thecountry most for criminal or
personal behavior.
Yeah, and it takes just amajority vote in the House of
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Representatives to impeach ajudge.
But two thirds of the Senatemust vote to convict, meaning
Republican senators would needsubstantial support from the
Democrats.
It's very rare for a SupremeCourt justice to release a
statement like, the one thatJustice Roberts did.
It, was reminiscent of two earlyones that he has also spoke upon
in 2018.
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He defended the independence andintegrity of the federal
judiciary.
After Trump called a judge whohad ruled against his
administration's asylum policy,an Obama judge.
In response he wrote, we do nothave Obama judges or Trump
judges, Bush judges or Clintonjudges.
what we have Is an extraordinarygroup of dedicated judges doing
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their level best to give equalright to those appearing before
them.
Two years later, he denouncedChuck Schumer of New York for
comments.
At a rally outside the SupremeCourt, Schumer attacks two of
Trump's appointees in responseto the court hearing a major
abortion case.
Yeah, and all of this is comingafter weeks upon weeks of
stories we've been telling you.
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The crazy stories we've talkedabout are now hitting the
courts.
I mean, here's a list of some of'em.
Mahmud Khalil, the recentColumbia University graduate who
is detained by federalimmigration agents called his
arrested direct consequence forexercising my right to free
speech about the Palestiniancause.
He was prominent figure inpro-Palestinian demonstrations
Act.
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Columbia, who is currently beingheld at a Louisiana Detention
Center.
A judge also blocked a policythat would expel transgender
troops.
Yet the current presidentavoided the military draft five
times during the Vietnam War.
U-S-A-I-D shutdown has beenhalted by a federal judge as
well, so yeah, and the reasoningfor Justice Robert's statement
today is over the deportationflights of potential Venezuelan
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gang members, and The Trumpadministration used three
flights.
Bound for El Salvador to deporthundreds of Venezuelans.
Over the weekend, one of theplanes left a Texas airport
after the federal judge issued awritten order, halting any
deportations.
On top of all this, do youremember from one of our first
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episodes I talked about the costof these planes he was using?
He wasn't at the time usingnormal commercial sized planes
to deport.
He was using military aircraft.
I looked up the tail numbers,the three tail numbers of these
planes that is in question, andthey all looked to be commercial
planes actually, which.
I do think if they had beenmilitary aircraft like he had
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been doing before, this would bea lot more of a cut and dry
story From the bench, judgeBoberg verbally ordered the
planes that were in the air toreturn back to the United
States.
The judge's written orderhalting, the deportation flights
was posted around 7:25 PM thatday.
Like I, I truly believe thatwhat happened on Saturday is an
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an impeachable offense.
Um, I, I don't think this is thelast time we're gonna hear of
this case, so it's prettyinteresting.
Yeah, absolutely.
We're gonna be hearing moreabout it.
Moving on to the little funsegment, red State, blue State,
or.
No state.
We're gonna be playing this gameagain.
This is our third week running.
You know, you do a pretty goodjob at this part, I think
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actually.
Um, we'll see how you do today.
I came up with more policies andlaws, some being real, some
being fake, and you had to guesswhether it's from a red state,
blue state, or no state.
So let's get started.
Alright, let's do it in thefirst.
Policy in this state, billboardsare outlawed.
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Red state, blue state or nostate?
No state.
Blue state.
Um, can you guess which one?
Yeah, let me think.
Uh, it's going to be Vermont.
Hawaii.
Really interesting.
And if you think about it, wedidn't see any billboards in
Hawaii and I thought about thattoo, and I was like, huh, they
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have no billboards.
It makes sense though,'cause Iguess they had passed it because
of the nature and all that andthe views.
They didn't wanna have that.
I guess it's been law there fora really long time.
Interesting.
In this state, it's illegal toget married if you have a
perennial disease or vd.
Red state, blue state or noState?
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Red State, correct.
Which state?
South Dakota, Nebraska.
I always get the region.
You do, and when I saidNebraska, I felt like Miss
Congeniality.
Anyway, in this state, theycreated a policy that restricts
the mentioning of politicalideologies before high school,
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red State, blue state, or nostate.
Red state, no state made up.
Ah, but that is a prettyinteresting idea if you didn't
allow teachers or anyone tomention political ideologies to
anyone until they wereinfluenced in high school
anyway.
In this state, drunk drivershave to pay child support.
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If they kill a parent in a DUIaccident, red State, blue state,
or no State.
Red State, correct.
Which state?
Georgia.
Tennessee region.
I look at the region, it'scalled Bentley's Law, which you
know that should be a nationwidelaw.
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I think that's a great law.
In this state, they created abill called Quote, the Public
Transit for All bill thatprovides state funding, the
bank, public transportation,free for everyone.
Red state, blue state, or nostate?
I'm gonna say blue State.
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No.
State made a in this state it'sillegal to hunt whales.
Red state, blue state or no?
State?
Red State, correct.
Which state?
Alaska, Kansas.
Whale hunting in Kansas?
Yes.
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Wild.
It is the most random thing'cause they're landlocked, but
it is an actual thing anyway.
Who know?
Who knows?
In this state it's illegal topump your own gas.
Oh, uh, I know this one.
New Jersey.
Oh, New Jersey.
You were right.
Everyone knows that it's, andthat's a blue state.
Uh, this law was created toprotect jobs for gas station
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attendants, which I didn't knowthat.
I, I had gone to New Jersey tooas a kid, and they filled our
gas tank and that was soawkward.
But it makes sense that theywere doing it to, you know, help
people not lose their jobs.
'cause if you think about it, noother place, no other gas
stations allowed that.
And that's an actual job anyway.
All right.
In this state, they created alaw called Quote, the Silent
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Shopping Law, which says thatall grocery stores must
designate one hour per week forsilent shopping where no one is
allowed to talk and no music canbe played.
Red state, blue state, or nostate, no state.
Correct.
That's made up.
Where did you come up withthese?
I have help, but it's reallyfun, you know, and that actually
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makes a lot of sense becauseeven movie theaters now do like
sensory, um, viewings becausethey wanna lower the volume.
It's for people with highsensory.
So that actually would make alot of sense.
'cause some of these grocerystores on weekends, God, we go
and they're so loud and they'reso crowded.
If I had sensory issues, Iwouldn't even want to.
Step into a grocery store.
So I think it'd be great if theydid that like one hour set aside
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every couple days to where itallows people to go shopping in
quiet and in peace.
It'd be great.
Focus on your grocery, grocerylist.
Alright.
That's it.
That was it.
That's it.
That was eight question.
Yeah.
And you actually got, wow.
Well, I get the regions, you geta region.
It's hard to guess the state.
It is really hard to guess the,like why did, I guess South
Dakota and then about that VDthing.
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Alaska was a good guess with thewhale thing though, because that
would make a lot of sense.
Not.
What was it?
I don't even remember.
Landlocked state.
Okay, so here's some other quickstories for you.
Um, a collation of over 200North Carolina Juris Senior
State government officials, barleaders practicing attorneys,
issued a joint statement toJefferson Griffin, urging him to
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drop his lawsuit, challengingthe 2024 election results.
For a seat on the North CarolinaSupreme Court, the letter
highlights the importance ofupholding the integrity of the
judicial system and respectingthe will of the voters.
The letter comes as NorthCarolina of appeals prepares to
hear arguments.
In Griffin's case later thisweek, last month.
(22:41):
Wake County Superior Courtdenied Griffin's demand to
discard some 65,000 ballots.
A decision he's now appealingdespite multiple recounts
confirming his loss.
Griffin continues to seek areversal of the election
outcome.
Griffin lost by 734 votes out ofthe 5.5 million cast in that
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state.
This remains the only undecidedrace nationally for the 2024
election, and of course, he's arepublican.
another story for you, PamBondy.
Our attorney general right nowcalls all Tesla vandalism,
domestic terrorism, promisingsteep consequences, like, will
she call school shootings,domestic terrorism, Or is that
(23:27):
just way too liberal for me toeven think about?
Supposedly, some of the peoplecharged were in possession of
Inc.
She even said this incendiarydevices such as AR fifteens.
It's funny how it's somethingworth noting when it's on a car
dealership, but not when there'sAR fifteens in schools.
What is interesting is the wholepoint of domestic terrorism is
that vandals are trying toinfluence the government, but
(23:47):
time and time again, thisadministration is.
Saying, Elon isn't a governmentofficial.
He's basically just Trump'sfriend.
So moving forward, arePresident's friends covered
under this?
Can friends of the presidentinfluence the government that
much?
Is that normal anyways, Yeah.
And here's another one for you.
Trump takes Hunter and AshleyBiden's.
Security detail Trump's ending,hunter and Ashley Biden's.
(24:10):
Security detail immediatelyTrump said on social media that
he objected to what he said.
Were 18 agents assigned toHunter Biden's Protective
detail.
While he was in South, Africalast week, he said Ashley Biden
has 13 agents assigned to herdetail and she will be taken off
the list as well.
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Former presidents and theirspouses receive.
Lifelong secret serviceprotection under federal law,
but the protection afforded totheir immediate families over
the age of 16 ends when theyleave office.
However, outgoing presidents canextend protection up to six
months after leaving office,which is what Biden did.
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Trump did the same for hischildren when, when he left
office in 21 Bush and Obama,they all did the same.
So that's.
Crazy to think, but it soundsvery targeted to It is very
targeted crabs.
He's very, very butt hurt overJoe Biden winning.
I guess I have no idea.
So stupid.
some other light stories foryou.
So, A massive parasite carryingsnail was found in Brooklyn's
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Prospect Park, The invasivegiant African snail Elon Musk Is
a risk to public health becauseit can carry meningitis, get fax
people.
That is so random.
So random.
Brooklyn Park.
I have one for you.
So a Texas woman was accused ofabusing a corpse last weekend in
(25:34):
Houston.
She is or was a 34-year-old inBalmer, and she chose to
mutilate a Mr.
Rodriguez, who was 58 at thetime of his death of natural
causes.
Well, I guess Rodriguez was aregister.
Sex offender and was chargedwith sexual assault back in
2001.
the embalmer while embalming,the guy stabbed his body twice
in the groin and then cut offhis penis and placed it in his
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mouth.
And this was all witnessed bytwo other workers, I mean.
Whose side would you be on?
In this story, the directornoticed that Rodriguez's groin
area looked disfigured and askedLauder Melk to the woman's name
about it.
In response, Lauder Melkallegedly covered Rodriguez's
lower body with a towel, andreplied that the corpse had a
lot going on with him per thedocument the woman turned
(26:18):
herself in last week.
One comment I read with thisstory said.
He didn't feel a thing while I'msure his victim suffers every
day, so no, I don't feel bad forhim at all, which is a very fair
point.
Yeah, there's actually a moviealong the same lines called Hard
Candy with Elliot Page and it'spretty entertaining.
It's, you know, in this kind ofinstance I was also reading that
(26:40):
there's like a GoFundMe beingraised to pay for her legal
bills, but she obviously isprobably out of a job so.
I would think so.
That's crazy.
Anyways, anyways, uh, that's,that's it for us today.
So thank you guys so much forlistening.
Remember to give us a follow onInstagram at the Civil U.
That's just what the letter Uand email us.
(27:01):
We're always down to receive anemail, hearing critiques or uh,
ideas or what we got wrong.
That email address is the CivilUnion twenty5@gmail.com.
Thanks for listening everyone.
Thank you guys.
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