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Ilia (00:13):
Welcome.
Welcome to another episode ofthe Clever DJ with Ilia and Nino
.
Happy Canada Day everyone inCanada.
Nino (00:22):
Happy Canada Day.
As you can tell, we have ourswag on.
Ilia (00:29):
You know, it actually
works with our colors.
We're blending in with ourtable.
What's his name?
Again, I don't know.
We didn't give him a name HenryJacques, we found the name
Jacques.
That's the closest thing toduck.
Jacques, come A the duck,jacques the duck.
Nino (00:46):
So um, this is a special,
uh Canadian episode.
Ilia (00:50):
Another special episode.
Yes, you know, we are specialtime, we are very special, super
special.
This is our uh Canadian special.
This is uh, this is uh Canadaday.
Uh, we went to, uh to thedollar store and we made sure to
equip this.
Nino (01:06):
We splurged on the dollars
.
Ilia (01:07):
We splurged, we splurged.
That was actually from.
This was actually from Walmart.
This was not cheap.
It used to be actually you likethe colors.
It's all matching, it's allmatching.
Nino (01:19):
Matching with our
background, everything.
Ilia (01:22):
It's actually.
Everything is the same color asthe uh the table club I think
we should just keep this yeah, Iwas thinking, but uh, I don't
know, maybe it's definitely goodfor today, it's, it's uh, yeah,
it's rematching everything, allright so you can talk.
Nino (01:36):
I'm gonna play with me
yeah, you were.
Ilia (01:38):
So I love this thing.
The whole time I'm walkingbehind you in the dollar store
and you're like just waving itaround.
I'm like this guy has like zeroself-awareness or he's just
enjoying it.
Nino (01:49):
I'm enjoying this.
I'm a kid again.
I feel like a kid again.
For those of you just listeningon Spotify, I'm just playing
with, like a Wendy, one of thosetoys that spin around.
Ilia (02:01):
Yeah, you can put it in
your lawn too.
Yeah, you can actually takethat with you.
that's from me to you, oh, yes,I think I'll feel way better if
you take that home um and uh,yeah, so today, because of uh,
because it's canada day, we'regonna do, uh, some of the, some
(02:22):
of the main differences forwedding DJs in Canada.
So the differences betweenbeing a DJ in Canada and in
America when it comes toweddings, yeah, so what it's
like to DJ a wedding in Americaand what it's like to DJ a
wedding in Canada, in terms ofsome of the main aspects.
(02:45):
Now, it wasn't easy to researchthis, because some things
seemed to be a sure thing onsome websites and on some
threads, whereas somewhere elseit was completely dismissed as
not being a fact or not being afact anymore, dismissed as not
(03:05):
being a fact or not being a factanymore.
And, yeah, so in some states itmay not be very accurate.
For example, the price of DJs.
I'm just going to jump ahead andjust say that as an example.
And also, you know stuff likeStag and Doze.
You know, apparently it's onlya certain culture just in
Ontario, or mainly in Ontario,not all of Canada.
So, yes, there are some nuanceshere and there.
(03:26):
We're not oblivious to that.
Yeah, but yeah, let's just havefun with this and see what are
the main differences.
Nino (03:32):
So, um, first one, you go
for it well, canadian weddings
are most definitely longer thanUS weddings, and I know this for
a fact.
Like Canadian weddings usuallystart at 5 pm.
Well, the reception starts at.
Cocktails will start at 5 pmand then go all the way to one
(03:53):
or two o'clock in the morning,depending on the venue.
But then you're not eventhinking about the ceremony,
which starts earlier sometimes.
Sometimes it starts at, so youhave to take into account your
setup time, which is another twohours, so you're starting at
one.
So sometimes we're out therefor 12 hours.
Ilia (04:16):
Yeah, you get there
between 12 and 1 pm.
Yeah.
Nino (04:21):
First one's there, last
one's out For real.
Ilia (04:25):
Even the photographers,
like um, you know, the
videographers leave kind of likein the middle.
Nino (04:29):
I always envy the
videographers and photographers.
They're like what time are youguys here?
I'm like we're done.
When the dancing starts.
I'm like, oh, I'm just startingwhen the dancing starts.
Ilia (04:39):
Right, it's, it's tough I
don't get why people don't keep
the in some weddings.
They do keep them for a whilelonger Some weddings yeah,
there's no way that I'm notkeeping my photographer and
videographer with me untileveryone is gone, right?
I mean, I want this documented.
That's my wedding.
Nino (04:56):
I think they're trying to
just save on, you know, expenses
.
Ilia (04:59):
Not saving it.
Nino (05:00):
They're probably keeping
them until like maybe 30 minutes
into the dancing.
I think it's a cultural thingin Europe.
Ilia (05:06):
It's not like that You're
going to have pictures and
videos and all the whole shebangfrom before to during to after
the wedding, like it's just it'spictures, videos.
All that stuff is reallyimportant to us.
Yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah.
So I actually want to touch upon that, because I was shocked
(05:27):
when you told me how long a USwedding would last normally.
Normally, yes, up to six hours.
Four to six hours, that's longalready.
I actually have a breakdownhere.
I have a breakdown.
I'm going to read it from myphone.
There was one here you talk fornow.
(05:47):
I'm trying to find it.
Nino (05:49):
So basically, US weddings,
why am I not in the US right
now?
I always think this I'm likeyou guys your dollar is a lot
higher and you guys just shortertimes of working, right.
Ilia (06:05):
So I'm like look at this
so I'm gonna read it from the
actual website that's from some.
It's some blog uh, event active, I'm sure.
Yeah, okay, so, um, mostweddings don't last more than
six hours.
That includes time for theceremony, reception photos and
(06:28):
any special activities.
Usually the ceremony lastsabout an hour and the remaining
four to five hours are saved forthe reception.
And then you know you can readhere they're bringing a cocktail
hour, aka picture time one hour.
Dance and speeches 30 to 45minutes.
I wish Dinners and dessert onehour.
Uh, dance and speeches 30 to 45minutes.
I wish dinners and dessert onehour.
(06:48):
Are you kidding me?
Nino (06:49):
yeah, I double, triple it.
In the states it's all bang,bang, bang, bang bang.
Everything has to be on time,because they're they're strict
on uh the times.
They're correct me if I'm wrong, but, um, I'm sure a lot of you
guys from the states arelistening and um, yeah, actually
a third of of you guys from theStates are listening.
Ilia (07:09):
Yeah, actually a third of
our listeners are from the
States.
Yeah, yeah.
Nino (07:12):
I was actually quite
impressed because I thought it
would be mostly Canada, mostlyCanada, because we are Canadian
podcast Some UK.
Ilia (07:15):
But yeah, we have quite a
few from the UK, us and
Australia, three of the biggestdemographics we have, as well as
Canada.
Not bad, so I would say afourth, not a third.
Nino (07:27):
A fourth is from the US.
You know what?
You guys have two-hour dancefloors too.
I'm like what?
Two hours I can just go all out, just bang bang bang and just
make the show as a DJ.
Ilia (07:38):
That's awesome, that's
like a dream, but as a guest, I
like the long weddings.
Nino (07:44):
I enjoy it.
Well, it's nice to have shortdance floors because you leave
them wanting more Right,Especially because here in
Canada the dance floors areusually four to five hours At
least.
So you're doing the long,you're in it for the long hours
Five hours.
Ilia (08:02):
Yeah, actually it starts
at like nine o'clock.
Yeah Ends by one, or yeah Endsby 1, or 2 am Ends by 1 or 2.
Nino (08:06):
So you're there, you're
taking them on a journey
literally right Up and down, upand down, right.
Ilia (08:12):
Yeah, weddings here are
just a big event.
They're a different animal.
Nino (08:26):
You've got to be a really
good DJ to keep them on the
dance floor for the whole timeas well, right, I'm sure?
Ilia (08:29):
um, other canadian djs
will agree with me.
Right, you know, here you are.
Yeah, so, like you know, youwrote here 5 pm to 1 am,
technically, but that'ssometimes you do the ceremony,
sometimes you don't.
That's what I'm saying, right,yeah, you know what?
Let's, let's, um, uh, yourstruly here, actually, bartender.
I was a bartender and I was alsoa waiter in weddings before I
(08:49):
became a dj, because that's hownino and I met, yeah, yeah, and
it, uh, it was probably aroundtwo or three pm when we were
starting, you know, to come outwith a food.
Sometimes, that's how early thecocktail hour could start.
(09:10):
Yeah, sorry, 3 pm, 3.30, not 2.
And then usually, like you said, around 4, 3, 5 pm and then
sometimes, sometimes and not itwasn't very rare it would last
about half an hour to an hourlonger because there are so many
people and we couldn't getthrough everyone with the
cocktails, with the food, right,right, so you don't even go
(09:33):
into the hall until like 7 pm,yeah, 7 or 8 pm then.
Then the speeches start.
That's two hours.
Two hours of speeches, onaverage an hour and a half to
two hours, right, yeah, you'relucky if it's done within 45
minutes to an hour.
That's almost unheard of no andand then in between, you got to
do the food, you got to do the.
(09:54):
You know all the courses yougot to do the dances too as well
, right, and then the dances.
Yes, of course, and it just Ifeel like it's so much harder
for for contractors, you know,like the caterers and everyone
else, to kind of everyone'sunder so much stress, because in
the kitchen I remember the chefwas like, oh man, they're going
(10:16):
like on and on with thesespeeches.
Nino (10:18):
I gotta, I gotta, get this
food out I know you're you're a
chef, but back in the day wasvery, very picky when the timing
has to be right.
Ilia (10:26):
Well, he was right.
But also he had an anger issue.
Everyone knew that.
If he ever watches, I don'tthink he will probably call me a
prick, but that's his wholeproblem.
It's funny because I understandhim, but the level he got so
angry I understand him, but thelevel like he got so angry he
would start swearing and hewould start just explain how.
Nino (10:47):
you know the coordinators
don't know what they're doing.
They call it passionate.
He's very passionate in his job, right.
Ilia (10:53):
That's what you call it
because he didn't work with him.
So, yeah, he literally is not,almost not allowed to stay
anymore on some weddings becausethe staff already tells him go
home, we can't work with you,right, like like you're too much
.
So he knows, and he takes histime off, uh, but um, yeah, I
don't, I know them, you know, Iknow how things go.
(11:15):
They're still, but I don't, Idon't work with them anymore.
So it was fun while it lasted,uh, but yeah, I was.
I was trying to think would itbe easier to have a shorter
wedding or a longer one?
I'm trying to think, would itbe easier to have a shorter
wedding or a longer one?
I'm trying to think, becausethere's so many different
factors Technically, if it'slonger, you have more time to
get things done right.
Are you good there?
I'm good, I think my, uh, mytape work was pretty.
(11:36):
Yeah, good job, very good.
Yeah, the flags might, mightfall off.
They won't fall off, don'tworry about it.
But yeah, uh, when you havemore time, when you have more
time, um, I don't see how thatwould be harder, but then
certain things can getcomplicated, it can.
Nino (11:57):
I think when you have more
time there's more leeway to do
things, but when you have timeconstraints it's a little harder
.
I would think right, especiallyif you have to stay on time.
Ilia (12:11):
Yeah, I think it's just
more frustrating for people who
are waiting for a specificmoment of the wedding right,
which is usually the food and orthe dancing.
Yeah, and the drinking.
I don't know what it's like inthe States, I actually don't
know.
Do you know about the open barsand like how they close the bar
or even if it's not an open bar?
Nino (12:30):
No, not really.
Back in the day I heard it wasmore, it was an open bar, but
that was before, so I'm not surehow about now?
Ilia (12:38):
Most of the?
Nino (12:39):
older comments were like
that yeah, so I think it is more
open bar now.
Ilia (12:44):
Yeah, nowadays.
So, like 75 to 80% of the peopleof the weddings.
People go to our open bar.
Even in the States here, Ithink it's like 95%, it's even
higher the only non-open barweddings are religious weddings,
where they're not allowed tohave alcohol.
Yeah, yes, dry weddings, yeah,so um, but you know, during a um
(13:09):
, during the speeches and alsowhen the food comes out, uh,
while the speeches are goinglike the salads, the first
course, they usually close thebar Because they don't want
people to get up and go back.
Exactly, people get antsy.
Nino (13:23):
Usually they line up for
drinks.
Ilia (13:31):
But they make a compromise
.
They're like you know, you havewine on your table.
Nino (13:35):
Yeah, I think one event.
Ilia (13:42):
They also had whiskey on
the table.
Oh, that's, that's, wow, justjackpot, right?
So?
So this way, people weren'tactually that as as pissed off.
Yeah, I guess having a longerwedding is better in terms of
playing things around.
Nino (13:49):
Yeah, it is yeah, it's not
great for the vendors, right,
they have to work longer hours,but, but as in, in terms of
logistics, I think it's.
It's not great for the vendors,right, they have to work a
longer hours, but but as in, interms of logistics, I think it's
, it's, there's a lot moreleeway for longer weddings.
Ilia (14:02):
So just to summarize and
this is the biggest point, so
that's why we're why we're stilltalking about it but just to
summarize, Canadian weddingsfrom 10 to 12 hours, usually, at
least, yeah and um, about fourto five hours of dance floor and
speeches expect to be sittingfor about an hour to an hour and
(14:24):
a half for the speeches andvery often they're not very
interesting, but sometimes theywere like super funny and
they're like a bunch of actorsOne uh, one of the uh and
writers yeah, One of the one ofthe uh and writers, yeah, one of
the one.
The weddings were where we metand oh yeah, it was it was
extremely interesting to like.
I was like let this keep going,like let the show go on.
Nino (14:46):
I was loving the speeches
especially when they're when
they can crack jokes too.
They were amazing I love those.
Ilia (14:53):
Uh, I actually didn't know
that sometimes us weddings
start dancing before dinner.
Nino (14:58):
You said that I've
actually did that.
Um, I did wedding back actuallytwo years ago.
I did a wedding and we juststarted dinner and then the
coordinator said okay, let'sstart the dancing.
I'm like, huh, I'm like we'regonna start dancing, yeah, just
to just to warm them up and thenget them dancing already.
I'm like, oh, okay, so, andthey were up for it, I started
(15:22):
to.
Sometimes you have to build itup.
Were they an american couple?
Uh, I think so.
It might.
Ilia (15:28):
They might have been, they
might have been yeah, but
apparently, according to whatyou wrote, here in the states
that's, that's common in thestates.
Nino (15:35):
It's common, it it's more
common.
Ilia (15:36):
I didn't know that, I did
not know that.
Nino (15:38):
But yeah, let us know if
you guys have ever done that or
if it's common in your area.
Ilia (15:43):
Yeah, you know.
If you guys are watching ourpodcast on YouTube, comment down
in the comment section and letus know is anything here
different in your state or arethere certain points we did not
touch on what we would love tolearn?
Yeah, it was not easy to findthis information, to be honest.
Um, what else?
(16:04):
Uh, okay, that is okay.
I feel this one, this is mygripe.
Nino (16:09):
Yeah, same here.
This is, oh, man, like this hitme like really close because I
I'm so jealous of American DJs,especially when it comes to gear
, dj gear, especially when itcomes to controllers and stuff,
because you guys get it first.
Yeah, you get it first.
You get it first.
(16:29):
I'm like why that's not fair.
We don't get it like sometimessix months, eight months,
sometimes it's a supply issue,especially when covid was around
, right, it was normally, andeven even you guys in the states
had had problems with gettingstuff, but in general, you guys
(16:50):
always get it beforehand and I'mlike four to six months before
we get anything there was somuch uh, there was so many times
that I I ordered um somethingonline but I wouldn't get it to
like, yeah, six months, but Ican see, like all the reviews
all the reviews.
Are you guys doing it in thestates?
(17:10):
I'm like, yeah, I already gotthis.
I'm like, what I haven't?
It hurts, it hurts.
Ilia (17:17):
It almost makes me want to
move to the us bro but, um, one
good thing is that I get tokind of watch the reviews and
and kind of like, well, you,learn about it.
Nino (17:29):
You have to learn about it
before we actually get it.
Yeah, make a conformed decisionand that's the thing I want to
do, the review on it too, aswell.
So, but I know you love yourreviews.
Yeah, yeah, I do, I do, butthat's my gripe, it hurts that.
And then there's a store here,uh, in toronto, that um a big
one.
(17:49):
We get all of our stuff, we getour american stuff, that we can
get it earlier.
Oh, you're talking about thatone yes, that one so I go to
that one instead of the otherone, which is strictly canadian.
They have american stuff toothey do, but they mostly push,
of course, the canadian productsright, because it's a canadian
company canadian brand right.
(18:09):
So, yeah, it's very rarelyreadily accessible.
So I like to get the americanstuff though, because that's the
stuff I kind of want.
So I go to the other store.
It's my go-to store here.
I'm not going to say the name,but it's just the way it is.
Man, I wish we had betterchannels of ordering stuff, but
(18:31):
yeah, sorry, um, so what else dowe have here?
uh, edm, you read that one um,edm, is more widely recognized
and appreciated more in europe,which is like the netherlands,
sweden, germany generally, thanthe states and canadian
(18:52):
counterparts.
Now, even though that um, likehouse and edm was actually born
in chicago, is actually madethere.
It's more widely, it's justbigger in the in the european
countries, and you know this toofor a fact.
Ilia (19:10):
Edm was huge where I'm
from um, but here in toronto
it's it's big too.
Nino (19:18):
There's a huge community
for edm huge there is, but
that's just now.
Yeah, right in in in europeit's always been like huge yeah,
ever since the 90s yeah yeah,how long are their dance parties
?
Man it, it's like all-nighters,right.
Ilia (19:36):
Six hours, six, seven
hours, yeah, yeah.
Nino (19:38):
Sometimes eight hours
Crazy, and it's sometimes in the
morning.
People come out at the morningright.
Ilia (19:45):
So you would start around
probably.
I was going to say nine, but no, I haven't been there in so
long.
In the evening, early eveninghours, yeah, 7 to 8 pm.
You would start, yeah, until 1,2, 3 am.
Okay, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
Can you imagine a dj like howmuch work that is.
Nino (20:06):
Is it just one?
You dj usually, or?
Ilia (20:09):
usually it's one dj, but
we also djing uh at least, or
where I'm from is very kind ofinvolved with the crowd in terms
of like they'll come on.
Some DJs are also likeperformers, like they'll come on
the crowd, amongst the crowd,and like start dancing with you
you're talking about weddingsnow yeah, we're still speaking
(20:32):
about weddings, so they'll comeon the dance floor and they'll
dance with you or like do somekind of show or whatever.
Nino (20:39):
Very interactive, right
yeah?
Ilia (20:42):
Often there's like dance
crews like doing professional
dancing just to put on a showand stuff like that.
But yeah, it's very different.
And no speeches, no speeches,no, no way.
Zero speeches, zero speeches,no speeches, no, no way.
Zero speeches, zero speeches.
Nino (20:58):
No speeches and then seven
eight hour dance floor.
Yeah, pretty much.
Ilia (21:03):
So you eat the whole time
and you dance the whole time,
whatever you choose to do, wow,wow, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, you know, some peoplemight say something, something,
but like, generally there's nospeeches.
Yeah, um, yeah, what else?
Oh, this is a big one and andthat's that's what we spoke
(21:23):
about earlier.
It depends on the state.
Like mid-atlantic is usuallythat's where, you know, we're
like jealous of that part,because that's where, like you
know, around new york and andthe area new jersey is really
big for high-end weddings that'swhere you guys make the big
bucks.
So pricing is different betweenus and canadian djs or companies
(21:47):
.
An average wedding dj in canadawill make 1200 to 1500 dollars
uh, canadian dollars uh for astandard wedding, while the same
wedding in the us uh, with lesshours, way less hours on the
job, uh will charge from 3 to 4kand up, um, but this also
(22:12):
depends on the state.
So, yes, we said new said NewYork.
Nino (22:15):
New Jersey, california.
Ilia (22:18):
Texas, et cetera, and they
demand a higher price point
because of higher volume andoverall demand.
Now again, I went over Reddit.
A lot of DJs said we don't makemore than $2,500 for a wedding.
It's still $1,000 more than wemake here and think about it.
Nino (22:38):
It's much shorter.
Your dollar is a lot strongerthan ours, too, as well.
Ilia (22:44):
We went on a date for
Valentine's Day Not Nino and I,
my girlfriend and I oh God no,and we just sat by this couple
and I forget where I went.
I went for a moment and then,when I come back, my girlfriend
made friends with them and, uh,she, uh, she's like, oh, meet
(23:05):
so-and-so.
I'm sorry guys, I forget yournames.
I have them on Instagram,though, and they started telling
me how, man, the things theysaid about Canada in, uh, in
comparison in contrast to the US, how like they come here and
they feel like like it's anextremely cheap vacation, uh,
yeah, because of, like they said, everything is so much cheaper
(23:26):
for them.
Where are you from?
Again, I forget the state.
Oh man, it was the states.
It was the state.
Yeah, yeah, so they come fromthe state.
Oh man, I can't believe Iforget the state.
It's from the state.
Oh man, I can't forget thestate.
It's actually important to thestory and this was recent.
(23:47):
This was on valentine's day.
That was like this year, likeless than six months ago.
Wow, yeah, four months ago.
So four or five months ago,yeah, so that's crazy.
Like they said, everything ismuch cheaper and because the us
versus the canadian dollar right, like it's, you know, it makes
sense, but I mean, you yourselfjust said that the US dollar is
stronger right, it's stronger,but right now everything's
really like pricey here, yeah,but so, but they're not here to
(24:09):
buy a house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.
And you know what.
Even then, I saw what a housecosts in.
My friend used to live in bocain florida, yeah, and for like
three hundred thousand dollars,like a few years ago, you would
get like something looks like amansion yeah, I know, I know you
wouldn't get an apartment herefor six hundred thousand dollars
(24:32):
.
Price is like one crazy herenow yes, so.
So you make a lot more money inthe us, trust me, a lot more
money.
As djs at least.
You make a lot more money.
Yes, in the us for a littletime.
Yes as well, we're notresentful at all, we promise.
We're so jealous, so jealous.
All right, two more points, twomore interesting points here.
(24:56):
Uh, the one we mentionedearlier.
Uh, the stag and dough parties.
We mentioned that in the intro.
Apparently I had no idea.
Apparently it's like a majorontario kind of.
Nino (25:10):
So what the stag and those
are?
Usually they're jack and jillsyes, jack and jill so they, they
um people get together for thecouple to actually raise money
for their wedding.
Ilia (25:20):
Through games and stuff
like that, yeah.
Nino (25:23):
And entry fees.
You have to pay an entry fee toget in.
No open bar, yeah, no open bar.
You have to pay for everything.
So it all contributes to theirwedding.
So that's pretty much what itis.
Ilia (25:35):
Mainly an Ontario
tradition.
Not even Canadian Ontariowithin Canada.
Definitely Ontario an Ontariotradition.
Not even Canadian Ontariowithin Canada, definitely not an
American tradition.
Yeah, so you guys don't havethat.
Nino (25:43):
Canadians are nice, we'll
help you.
We're just nicer with your,with your wedding.
You know pay for your wedding,you don't have money for your
wedding.
Ilia (25:50):
Eh, eh, no, no, no, I'll
get you some money.
Here you go.
Here you go, here's the money.
Oh, it's funny, man, the firsttime I ever heard about like a
stag.
Somebody invited me when I justmoved here and I was trying to
understand what it was.
Yeah, and I was like, are youfor real?
And I just I had no idea thatsomething like that exists.
(26:13):
Yeah, yeah, so big difference.
Nino (26:15):
And Stag's.
You know Stag and Jack andJill's.
There's always a DJ there tooas well.
Yeah, and that's the next point, it's worked for us.
Ilia (26:22):
Yeah, some of the best
events are Stag and Doze when it
comes to, like, wedding relatedevents.
Jack and Jill's, yeah.
And last one, now, that'ssomething you guys have in the
US.
Nino (26:36):
You, if you're from the us
, you, if you're very different
from us, how we we work here umgames yeah, drinking games and
that that I know it comes from alot of the college, college uh
days, fraternities like what isthat pong?
A little beer pong beer so yeah, for sure you guys have stuff
like that at your weddings.
It's popular, right here.
Ilia (26:56):
So we saw that online.
It's not very common at all inCanadian weddings.
No, right, like I mean, theonly drinking game is going to
the open bar and taking shots,and taking shots.
So yeah, that's our Old Canadaepisode.
That's our Canadian episode.
Yeah, we did it, jacquesJacques the duck did it.
Nino (27:19):
Jacques, jacques the duck,
jacques the duck.
See you next time.
See you, guys in the next one.
All right, bye.