August 12, 2024 • 28 mins
Is harmonic mixing the secret sauce to a flawless DJ set? Join us on this episode of "The Other Platforms" as we unpack the artistry behind dynamic DJ performances with Ilya and Nino. Ilya, a relatively new DJ, shares his journey from bartender to DJ, and his chance encounter with Nino, a 20-year veteran of the industry. You'll hear about their shared love for pho and the humorous, yet serious, discussion on the importance of having unique tracks to craft a DJ's distinct identity.
As we move through the episode, we dive into the essential elements that set live DJ performances apart. From an Eastern European DJ who merges live band performances with DJing, to the nuances of harmonic mixing for seamless transitions, we explore how these techniques can elevate a set. Learn how reading the crowd and incorporating interactive elements like drum pads can make your performance unforgettable. And don't miss our chat about the spontaneity of idea sharing and why experimenting with creative concepts right away can lead to some of the most innovative sets. Tune in for an engaging discussion brimming with tips, anecdotes, and the shared passion that fuels Ilya and Nino's journey in the world of DJing.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Welcome back to another episode of the other
platforms.
We're on Apple Music, spotify,literally everywhere.
We are a banter podcast.
(00:34):
My name is Ilya and I've been aDJ for about two years now and
you know I've done a variety ofevents and I met this awesome
guy about two years ago while Iwas bartending and I want him to
teach me how to DJ.
So, and he's way moreexperienced.
(00:54):
So that's just a newbie and apro.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, so my name is Nino.
As he said, I was the pro DJand I've been DJing for over 20
plus years, and I started offwith bars, clubs and now I'm
doing weddings.
So, yeah, that's what primarilywe do, and my company employs
about 15 DJs under its roster 15?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I thought you had more.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Eh good, no, just 15.
15's, I thought he had more.
Yeah, good, no just 15.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
15 is enough.
It's enough for now.
Yeah, no Cause, like you have,you have some weeks where, some
weekends where you have likeeasy 30 gigs.
Yeah, sometimes like Friday,Saturday, Sunday.
It's pretty crazy Mostlyweddings, right, Mm-hmm Anyway.
So you always got to find extrapeople, huh.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm always looking for, yeah, DJs that are
experienced in the stuff that wedo, especially weddings.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, what's that story we were talking about
earlier?
What story On the way to thegig?
What was it?
Oh, we went to that restaurant.
Oh, yes, yes.
Story on the way to the gig.
What?
was it oh we went to thatrestaurant, oh, yes, yes, the
one time.
So nino is from the philippinesand, um, you know, we like, we
spoke about a lot, his heritageand stuff like that, right, like
(02:16):
where you're from andeverything, and like how about?
How, like filipino food isamazing, and then somehow, we
like, our favorite meal becamepho.
Yeah, for some reason, eventhough it's not filipino at all.
No, it's, yeah, it's not.
And then we, we go like wheredid we go?
What?
What city was this in?
As far as no wait I forgotwhere it was.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's on the way west, far west, so west from toronto.
It was a two and a half hourdrive.
Did we hit?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Schaumburg.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, we did.
Yes, yes, we did, we did we did.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, that was that day.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was that day , it was.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We found this one pho restaurant and did we find it
like because we just decided ona whim?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
oh, let's go eat pho.
Yeah, because we were Googlingpho in our area.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So we weren't planning to actually go there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And we're pho connoisseurs so we try every
different.
We give it like a 1 to 10.
We rate them right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, like exactly how pho should be made.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, because it has to have that great broth.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We can't make it by the way, but we know what it's
supposed to taste like.
So, anyway, we go to thisrestaurant and I'm like yo Nino
she looks like she's from thePhilippines For sure.
She's for sure from thePhilippines, no.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You remember that?
Yes, I remember.
I thought I had to remind you.
I said, no, she doesn't Come on, I'm like she speaks Tagalog,
and and then you listen to it.
Yeah Well, didn't you say itwas a different dialect?
It was a different dialect, butit was Tagalog.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah Well, it's some, some.
How did I notice?
It's so obvious, man.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Weird.
I thought they were talkinglike really fast, so it didn't
really sound Filipino.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was some of the most incredible yeah Menu, such
unique items.
Remember, I wanted to ordereverything, everything you
wanted to order.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh man, that was a good place, but the pho was
really good, like A1.
It was one of the best.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We always talk about maybe going back there.
We know it's probably it's far,it's too far Not going to
happen anytime soon, unless wehave an event that way.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, we should get one.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We should get one just that way.
Get your next event 50% off ifyour event is in this area, this
area.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, we're talking about DJs and how to put
artistic creativity in your setsso you can be different than
the pack, right?
Because there's so many DJs outthere, you have to separate
from them.
What's your unique thing aboutyou?
How do you DJ, right?
Just one sec, oh, oh man, ifyou're gonna open that, I'm
(04:47):
opening up too.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Man, let's just play black tea, goji, berry and
blackberry that's gonna be ourdrink for a little while, so
healthy some of the coolers Ihad on my birthday zero grams of
sugar, oh man we gotta getsponsored basque, if you guys
are listening.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Basque, basque, yeah, oh, that's good, that's
actually delicious.
So one way you can put yourartistic creativity into your
sets is your track selection,and I've always said that it's
important to have set songs thatonly you play right, or set
(05:29):
remixes and stuff, because itreally puts that patent on you
as you, how you DJ, as a DJ,right, and sets you apart right
and yeah, have those tracks thatnobody else has right.
Be proud to have those tracks.
What was that track?
I'm not telling you, no way.
I'm not telling you.
(05:50):
It's mine.
Don't even think about it, bro.
Don't even think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm saying what was the name you always like, I
always ask for oh, can you giveme that one?
And you're like, no, no, you'relike no, no, you're not gonna
find it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about,
bro?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know I'm just messing with you.
Um, yeah, but you had a few ofthose.
I have a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, because you were like carefully like
selecting around those songswhen I give you the songs, no,
not that one, this is this one,it's true, and it was just.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was like, oh wow, like it's sacred right, like
that's one of the things Inoticed in the beginning, yeah,
like how you guard your musicand stuff no, it's we've.
We've, you know we've our bloodsweat and tears are in that
music, man and the thing is,you're not going to become a
worse dj if somebody gets yourmusic, or or you know they're
not going to get the same kindof reaction from the music.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're all different, right we're all going to be
mixing it differently in the endright, but we're still
sentimental about it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, still your music it's still our music.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Man, yeah, like, honestly, I wouldn't get someone
to pay for music, for my music,I wouldn't do that.
Sorry, like my, my libraryselling it?
Yeah, selling it?
I wouldn't, I wouldn't take it.
I'll be like no, I can't man,unless you want certain tracks
but not my whole library.
(07:16):
I, I didn't even give you mylibrary.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gave you the other one that I got then at the
university there at the froshweek.
Yeah, you gave me stuffdirectly from your computer yeah
, I gave you a few.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm not going to give you.
Give me like 50 something, 60,yeah, out of like.
Still, I've sold them 80 000.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I sold a playlist 10 times, whatever.
I actually never sharedanything you shared with me with
anyone else, because this waslike you know, I know it's
special, but like we said before, um, it's, it's funny Like I, I
(07:58):
couldn't use most of that, mostof those songs, like I took
like the best, like 100 orwhatever, but there were tens of
thousands and you just it's sohard working with someone else's
library, yeah.
So, much harder.
Yeah, it is, it is.
And you kept saying that.
You kept like stop collectingmusic.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Cause I gotta do.
Yeah, man, it's not gonna doanything for you.
There's a lot of songs thatyou're never gonna play anyway,
right?
So, yeah, the best way was tolike get them when you needed
them, and then you slowly,slowly, build your like.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
okay, that was that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you learn to
find out the actual bangers,right?
But, um, yeah, put in your sothis is still number one put in
in your DJ creatives, your, your, your nuggets in your sets,
right, that like, there'scertain songs that like defines
you as a, as, as the DJ, andthis is they're going to be like
your.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Your reference made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Nuggets, I don't know .
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Nobody said it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Just too many.
Too many goji berry.
Uh, black tea drinks man onetoo many no, but you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like everything you're saying, I'm just being
childish.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Um, yeah, you're right, um yeah, but yeah,
there's those songs, right, andyou guys know that it's not
really a big song, maybe it's ab-side song, but it's something
that represents you as a dj.
So that's what I'm talkingabout, right?
That, yeah, it's important.
Number two, layering andtexturing.
(09:32):
Like adding layers in your mix,like certain acapellas.
If you're adding like samplesor instrumentals on top of
another, that's perfect, it'sgreat, something that every DJ
should try to strive to, becauseyou want that creativity.
Again, it puts a stamp on howyou are, who you are as a DJ.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What about stems?
That's part of this right, ohyeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Man stems is another creative uh thing.
Man stems honestly changed thegame like uh and you you already
started using stems oh yeah,I've been using it already,
already trying to find out likemini sets and stuff to use it on
I noticed you have like certainroutines already.
Yeah, yeah I love using, beingas creative as you can it.
It separates you from other DJs, right, because I know a lot of
(10:22):
DJs who still don't use stemsright.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
A lot of them is because their computer won't be
able to handle it.
It's true, lots of DJs just getlike a cheap computer.
Yeah, I don't know why Half thepeople who don't use it that I
I met don't use it because theircomputer can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, half yeah, that's a lot, that's a lot
that's a lot of people and withnowadays you have to keep up
with uh like, like technologyman, because especially with
djing ai uh, you need to keep upwith it.
So yeah, having a like a strong, powerful computer is crucial
if you want to use programs likestems and stuff, because it
(11:02):
takes a lot of memory from yourcomputer, and so adding samples
and stuff that make you your ownstyle is important.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I always find Like your signature right the way you
play Exactly Number three, liveremixing and mashups again.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You're so good at that, yeah I love doing it
because it's, it's cool, likehearing another beat with
another, like um lyrics or adifferent song on top of it.
Just, you wouldn't think thatwould mesh, uh, so well, but it
does.
Right, those are, those arenuggets right there, and if you
can incorporate those in yoursets, uh, you're golden man, you
(11:49):
, that's, that's your style,right, the way you play, the way
you mix them, if you'rescratching it in, that's all you
know, unique to you, becauseyou all, everybody has different
styles of scratching to the waythey do it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, compared to two or three of the other DJs I
worked with before you and I metand one of them after we met
right, you know, you actuallyknow him too you were the one
who was by far the most creativein that aspect.
Specific, specifically, likethe way it's always different.
(12:24):
You have a routine, but it'svery unique.
All there's still somethingdifferent every time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the way youlike live, remix, smash, like
that's, that's really cool, man.
That's why one of the reasonswhy I was like I'm gonna make
sure that he got my number orlike that we can reach each
other after that that gigbecause I was like this guy's
gonna teach me.
(12:44):
You were so sure I I approachedlike two other guys and after
me, after I approached youbefore you approached me,
probably before.
I think you're the last one Ispoke to, okay, and um, there
was one, one more guy that Itold you about that had that
beautiful, amazing productionyeah, I forget, I forget.
I I would say his name if Iremembered his name but some
(13:09):
eastern european guy, no, likehonestly one of the best djs and
and and we got to talking aboutlike how much people charge
like I've already just startedDJing right For six months
probably and he told me that heonly charged like 15 or 1600.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Remember I told you His gig is crazy Like insane and
live a live band.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Apparently they were like all like together.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He was bundled in with the live band.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm not sure Potentially, like the way he was
talking about it.
I'm like I must bemisunderstanding, but even even
if he wasn't the whole wedding,maybe they had connections, I
don't know, maybe they knew eachother, but it was really cheap,
but he was one of the best,honestly.
But the other, the other one Ididn't approach him but but the
(13:55):
other ones were, yeah, like Ithink maybe they contacted me
but like I could tell okay, thisguy knows how to DJ better than
anyone else, right?
So like I never focused onanyone else.
And then everything that youtaught me actually you know like
happened exactly how you saidit would happen, like live gigs
(14:17):
and all that stuff, right?
That's when you really startlearning yeah so yeah, um anyway
.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Number four harmonic mixing yes, harmonic mixing is
very important for yourcreativity because it just adds
to that extra step of um, of ofmixing right, it's not just your
um, not just playing any songsback to back to back, it's
putting them in melodic, uh,positions where it sounds really
(14:50):
pleasing to the ear and yousometimes you can't even tell
that the song switched becauseit's so seamless and smooth and
it just, you know, melodicallyit just sounds perfect, right
together and that's that'sawesome.
If you guys are using harmonicmixing, like mixing in key is
totally amazing for that right,and yeah it, you can pick the
(15:12):
tracks by um, by the, the, thekey and the strength, like how,
um, how fire it is, or, or doyou have different levels for
that right?
If it's not so popular, you useit, or oh yeah, yeah, I'll use
that for that part, okay becauseI know you told me you want to
start using that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, all the cool features, and yeah, you start
using it I did start using it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's more for I think it's more for dance DJs like
EDM DJs.
It makes more sense that way,but it's.
It's cool if you can read thecrowd and have the same BPM
going, but of course you want toput it in that order if you're
reading the crowd Right.
So it's, it's good.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's stagnant though.
Yeah, we did.
Maybe that was at that coolvenue like that studio, Was that
there?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, no, that was somewhere else, that was another
thing.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that night I remember you played a lot of
like EDM style music, right, itwas they literally like it was
just like it turned into a club.
Yes, for like the last portion.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, they loved that .
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They gave me a playlist of like EDM stuff, so
like it was also like dance,like you know, lyrics, like
lyrical, but everything waselectronic, pretty much Right,
and I don't know if you werefollowing that day like or that
was just a routine you learnedby ear but it was perfect,
harmonically, everything.
It was just that was crazy,that was a good gig, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That was fun man.
I played a little bit ofeverything too, like R&B and
that night I can't believe youdidn't do their wedding.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I thought you would and you said someone, somebody
else did.
You couldn't no that, like they, they either booked you for
some reason, you couldn't do it.
You said some Ed or somebodyelse.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You said, somebody else did it oh, he did yeah, but
that's for another gig.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think you know it was for that one, because the
guy was like doing the warm,remember, and that's how we like
associated that gig.
The guy who did the warm likereally high, like really high up
oh yeah, you don't remember no,not really it's either a
useless memory or you have, Iforgot about that shit memory I
don't know either.
(17:22):
Either this is just somethingstupid to remember, or the way I
refer to it, maybe or, or.
Or maybe it's you and you havejust a memory okay maybe it's me
, I can't tell.
Probably it's probably stupid.
That's probably the one.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Um, all right, number five, my phone is locked, you
gotta okay number five is having, like, incorporating your
interactive like set elements,like, if you have um I have a
friend that uses um, his drumpad, to actually mimic drums
when he's playing a song, right,so he goes along with the beat
(17:58):
and it sounds cool.
It's like he's adding fills andstuff like that.
People are watching him andrecording him.
It's like he's adding his ownflair to it, right, and that's
it's important.
As a dj, that's one thing thatyou can do to make your sets
like stand, stand above andbeyond right yeah, yeah, we
spoke about that actually righton, like right in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yes, how, when I was talking to you about hey, you
got to make yourself unique.
That's how you can get moregigs.
Remember, we said we're likesinging, singing, yeah, like a
package, like when they walkeddown the aisle Right.
Yeah, we were literallypracticing and we sounded better
than somebody that was hired.
Do you remember?
(18:39):
Like, how, like, and we weren'tthe ones, the only ones
thinking that somebody saidsomething, so anyway, and, and
the one they hired was okay, butwe sounded better.
So like that could literally bea service.
It could, but we need to have alot of songs, not like, oh, we
only sing these two songs.
Yeah, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So like, adding all of those extra elements extra
stuff like your, yourmusicianship, sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yes, it doesn't hurt Musicianship.
Musicianship, that's the wordof the day.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
What is the word your ?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Wow, I can't think of it right now.
Musicianship, it is Musicality.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Musicality, yeah.
And next number six is yourability to storytell.
Storytelling, yeah.
Storytelling, to take the youknow the set in a way that tells
a story.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Take them on a musical trip.
Yeah, it's like literally, likewithout talking, just through
music it's.
It's important you to immersethem in into the experience,
right?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So yeah, storytelling , if you can uh bring them on a
musical journey, starting offmellow, then picking up, then
climax and back down.
You know it's more memorablethat way uh number seven visual
integration yeah, man, you weretalking about your.
Uh, that that gig before.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Visually oh yeah, uh, laser city gareth emery that
was that was insane.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and they had a.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
the beginning so, uh, I like how immersive it was in
terms of, uh, not just theinsane lasers, um, but like they
were so like well synchronizedwith the music, but also I.
You know, it's kind of a simplething, I've seen them before,
but I love it when they have thescreen and the story of, like
(20:39):
you know, I think she was tryinglike at this point I don't
remember exactly what it was,but she was trying to get to the
club and it was like her entirejourney until she got there.
And then, when she got there,suddenly like the video closes
and then you can see her onstage.
It was like there was a wholelike backstory and they fit it
into the music.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And she was actually singing on the track.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, she is the one who sings.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, Sick man Visual element.
That's cool.
Yeah, she is the one who sings.
Yeah, sick man.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, visual element, that's cool.
Yeah, so the lasers, that's themain thing.
But then that was like a reallynice addition.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh yeah, nice, Nice.
That's literally like what wewere talking about, like
storytelling as well.
That's a literal thing, rightthere.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, some things about it, like I said and how
she said.
But it was when you're in thatcommunity, like trance and, like
you know, like EDM, electronicmusic, yeah, like it's just,
it's different.
Like I, I feel like I'm likelike I'm 20 years ago, yeah,
like I don't know.
And when I'm in that atmosphereI feel nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, Do you drink when you're in that?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, honestly, that's that's all I do.
I just I drink.
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's likeit's enough for me.
I just drink a lot sometimes.
Yeah, but yeah, that's not aregular uh event.
The occasion that, like I go tothese kind of shows yeah, but
yeah, it's definitely like,definitely adds to it.
(22:05):
I went sober once.
How was that?
I forget why I went.
It was driving, but like it was, for Maybe you were the
designated driver, d&d, I was,but there was something else
that night.
Anyway, I had to drive, I hadto help them out with something
and I just decided not to drinkat all, like there's no point in
just having one beer, likeright.
So, and it was such a differentexperience when everyone's
(22:31):
drunk around you and like you'retotally sober.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You can see them all the change, right?
Yeah, and you're like wow do?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I do that when I'm drunk.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're pretty bad sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But, yeah, there was a moment where I was like the
music is kind of enough, like ittrips you out.
You know if you, if you, lovethat kind of music, of course,
man, but you definitely feelit's like that you're sober, but
the music like still makes it alot of fun.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah such a different experience, but yeah,
like storytelling visualintegration, like, like if, if
the lights are going with themusic and stuff, it just adds
that extra element of uh, justamazingness, that's wow factor,
right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So yeah, all right um number eight and this is.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
This is the same thing that we were talking about
making it unique and stuffPersonal signature sounds.
Personal signature sounds Likeif you use certain sound effects
in your sets and you use themvery often, yeah, put those in.
It makes you unique, right?
It adds your flavor, sort of.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yes, and yeah, people know that.
Oh, that's Nino, you knowplaying, for sure, yeah the way
he scratches it in or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And then even your like dj drop right.
Add that in so everybody knowsyour name.
But this is not recommended ina wedding or private event and
mostly clubs and bars and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's kind of corny yeah, um number nine crowd
interaction.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, that's fun yeah , it's always fun, right,
getting people hyped up andsinging in in your sets is is
the way to go and so interactiveand it gets it's more deeper
for them.
It makes it more memorable whenthey're everything, can sing
along, because they rememberexactly how they feel at that
moment.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Too right, when you're doing that like
interaction yeah, people come toyou after, even not after
during the gig, and you killedit, man, oh, you're amazing.
Or the tips yes, always lovethe tips.
Thanks for playing that song.
Hey, I was gonna ask for thatsong, but you knew when to play
it anyway.
Yeah, like it's just, it's fun.
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It's fun, right, like you'realready celebrating pretty much
every holiday there is with abunch of strangers as a dj,
right, sometimes you get luckyand you dj for people you know,
or return clients, right, yeah,but if you're already going to
be there, have a good time, havea great time.
Yeah, interact.
Um, yeah, you're very good withthe crowd I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know, there's always something anybody and
everybody can improve on right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So yeah, you do a good job.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I try number 10, and this is pretty much what will
make you like unique is justtrying new things, experimenting
yeah, trying new things, likeexperimenting, like something
that doesn't go.
Don't think it doesn't go untilyou try it right.
Sometimes you'd be surprised,like certain songs, if you mash
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them up together like that's notgonna go, like a rock song and
a rap song, but you put themtogether like, oh, it actually
sounds good, right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So trust your ears when it comes to stuff like that
yeah, have some guts when itcomes to um, you know, djing,
because that's in music, likethat's how lots of, lots of cool
things started.
Somebody tried by mistake,right yeah.
Or like some they went in theother direction.
Yeah, like of, like theinstructions or the manual or
something, right like you'renever gonna know, until you try
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it genre yeah, it came out ofthat it
starts, yeah, it fuses something, yeah yeah, you do that all the
time with uh, your routines andeverything I try just to be a
little creative and add a newspin to things.
Right, yeah, spice up your setslike I said before you, even
though you have like a setroutine that, let's say,
(26:25):
somebody heard you DJ beforethat type of event, they'll know
, they'll know it's you Right.
But there's still little thingsyou change here and there just
to keep it a bit refreshed foreach client.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or every few gigs, yeah, yeah.
So it's good.
It shows you actually lovedoing this.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, well, there's a lot of djs that say they get
bored doing the same things.
Well, because you're notvarying your mixes, you're not
changing, you're playing thesame stuff, right?
So always try to play differentthings.
I'm not saying the whole sethas to be different, but maybe
add in songs that you don'tusually play to keep it fresh
and exciting for yourself, noteven just for the crowd, right?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
For me with my ADHD, like, honestly, it's so easy for
me to wander off to.
Oh, I wonder what that soundslike.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Did you do it live?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Honestly like eight or nine out of 10 times.
The idea was good.
One or two times out of those10, maybe it was fire.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Fire.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Fire fire fire fire truck.
Fire Fire fire fire Fire truck.
Fire truck emoji.
Fire truck emoji.
Every time I have one of thosecrazy ideas, I don't just set it
aside and think I'll do it nexttime.
No, I try it right away to seewhat happens, right, and I send
it to you or I tell you about it.
Hey, how do you think this isgoing to sound?
A couple of times you dismissedit.
(27:45):
No.
And then you even showed me like, oh yeah, nevermind, but no, I
had a few good ideas.
Yeah, don't be an asshole.
Great ideas, man Come on I hadgreat ideas, great, but yeah,
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that's it.
So that is the end of ourepisode and thank you so much
for joining another clever djepisode yeah purge.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We'll see you.
The next one, guys see you nexttime.
Welcome back to another episode of the other
platforms.
We're on Apple Music, spotify,literally everywhere.
We are a banter podcast.
(00:34):
My name is Ilya and I've been aDJ for about two years now and
you know I've done a variety ofevents and I met this awesome
guy about two years ago while Iwas bartending and I want him to
teach me how to DJ.
So, and he's way moreexperienced.
(00:54):
So that's just a newbie and apro.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, so my name is Nino.
As he said, I was the pro DJand I've been DJing for over 20
plus years, and I started offwith bars, clubs and now I'm
doing weddings.
So, yeah, that's what primarilywe do, and my company employs
about 15 DJs under its roster 15?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I thought you had more.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Eh good, no, just 15.
15's, I thought he had more.
Yeah, good, no just 15.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
15 is enough.
It's enough for now.
Yeah, no Cause, like you have,you have some weeks where, some
weekends where you have likeeasy 30 gigs.
Yeah, sometimes like Friday,Saturday, Sunday.
It's pretty crazy Mostlyweddings, right, Mm-hmm Anyway.
So you always got to find extrapeople, huh.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm always looking for, yeah, DJs that are
experienced in the stuff that wedo, especially weddings.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, what's that story we were talking about
earlier?
What story On the way to thegig?
What was it?
Oh, we went to that restaurant.
Oh, yes, yes.
Story on the way to the gig.
What?
was it oh we went to thatrestaurant, oh, yes, yes, the
one time.
So nino is from the philippinesand, um, you know, we like, we
spoke about a lot, his heritageand stuff like that, right, like
(02:16):
where you're from andeverything, and like how about?
How, like filipino food isamazing, and then somehow, we
like, our favorite meal becamepho.
Yeah, for some reason, eventhough it's not filipino at all.
No, it's, yeah, it's not.
And then we, we go like wheredid we go?
What?
What city was this in?
As far as no wait I forgotwhere it was.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's on the way west, far west, so west from toronto.
It was a two and a half hourdrive.
Did we hit?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Schaumburg.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, we did.
Yes, yes, we did, we did we did.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, that was that day.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, it was that day , it was.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
We found this one pho restaurant and did we find it
like because we just decided ona whim?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
oh, let's go eat pho.
Yeah, because we were Googlingpho in our area.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So we weren't planning to actually go there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And we're pho connoisseurs so we try every
different.
We give it like a 1 to 10.
We rate them right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, like exactly how pho should be made.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, because it has to have that great broth.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
We can't make it by the way, but we know what it's
supposed to taste like.
So, anyway, we go to thisrestaurant and I'm like yo Nino
she looks like she's from thePhilippines For sure.
She's for sure from thePhilippines, no.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
You remember that?
Yes, I remember.
I thought I had to remind you.
I said, no, she doesn't Come on, I'm like she speaks Tagalog,
and and then you listen to it.
Yeah Well, didn't you say itwas a different dialect?
It was a different dialect, butit was Tagalog.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah Well, it's some, some.
How did I notice?
It's so obvious, man.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Weird.
I thought they were talkinglike really fast, so it didn't
really sound Filipino.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
It was some of the most incredible yeah Menu, such
unique items.
Remember, I wanted to ordereverything, everything you
wanted to order.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh man, that was a good place, but the pho was
really good, like A1.
It was one of the best.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We always talk about maybe going back there.
We know it's probably it's far,it's too far Not going to
happen anytime soon, unless wehave an event that way.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, we should get one.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
We should get one just that way.
Get your next event 50% off ifyour event is in this area, this
area.
What are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, we're talking about DJs and how to put
artistic creativity in your setsso you can be different than
the pack, right?
Because there's so many DJs outthere, you have to separate
from them.
What's your unique thing aboutyou?
How do you DJ, right?
Just one sec, oh, oh man, ifyou're gonna open that, I'm
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opening up too.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Man, let's just play black tea, goji, berry and
blackberry that's gonna be ourdrink for a little while, so
healthy some of the coolers Ihad on my birthday zero grams of
sugar, oh man we gotta getsponsored basque, if you guys
are listening.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Basque, basque, yeah, oh, that's good, that's
actually delicious.
So one way you can put yourartistic creativity into your
sets is your track selection,and I've always said that it's
important to have set songs thatonly you play right, or set
(05:29):
remixes and stuff, because itreally puts that patent on you
as you, how you DJ, as a DJ,right, and sets you apart right
and yeah, have those tracks thatnobody else has right.
Be proud to have those tracks.
What was that track?
I'm not telling you, no way.
I'm not telling you.
(05:50):
It's mine.
Don't even think about it, bro.
Don't even think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, I'm saying what was the name you always like, I
always ask for oh, can you giveme that one?
And you're like, no, no, you'relike no, no, you're not gonna
find it.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about,
bro?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know I'm just messing with you.
Um, yeah, but you had a few ofthose.
I have a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, because you were like carefully like
selecting around those songswhen I give you the songs, no,
not that one, this is this one,it's true, and it was just.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was like, oh wow, like it's sacred right, like
that's one of the things Inoticed in the beginning, yeah,
like how you guard your musicand stuff no, it's we've.
We've, you know we've our bloodsweat and tears are in that
music, man and the thing is,you're not going to become a
worse dj if somebody gets yourmusic, or or you know they're
not going to get the same kindof reaction from the music.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
We're all different, right we're all going to be
mixing it differently in the endright, but we're still
sentimental about it.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, still your music it's still our music.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Man, yeah, like, honestly, I wouldn't get someone
to pay for music, for my music,I wouldn't do that.
Sorry, like my, my libraryselling it?
Yeah, selling it?
I wouldn't, I wouldn't take it.
I'll be like no, I can't man,unless you want certain tracks
but not my whole library.
(07:16):
I, I didn't even give you mylibrary.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I gave you the other one that I got then at the
university there at the froshweek.
Yeah, you gave me stuffdirectly from your computer yeah
, I gave you a few.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm not going to give you.
Give me like 50 something, 60,yeah, out of like.
Still, I've sold them 80 000.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I sold a playlist 10 times, whatever.
I actually never sharedanything you shared with me with
anyone else, because this waslike you know, I know it's
special, but like we said before, um, it's, it's funny Like I, I
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couldn't use most of that, mostof those songs, like I took
like the best, like 100 orwhatever, but there were tens of
thousands and you just it's sohard working with someone else's
library, yeah.
So, much harder.
Yeah, it is, it is.
And you kept saying that.
You kept like stop collectingmusic.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Cause I gotta do.
Yeah, man, it's not gonna doanything for you.
There's a lot of songs thatyou're never gonna play anyway,
right?
So, yeah, the best way was tolike get them when you needed
them, and then you slowly,slowly, build your like.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
okay, that was that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you learn to
find out the actual bangers,right?
But, um, yeah, put in your sothis is still number one put in
in your DJ creatives, your, your, your nuggets in your sets,
right, that like, there'scertain songs that like defines
you as a, as, as the DJ, andthis is they're going to be like
your.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Your reference made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Nuggets, I don't know .
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Nobody said it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Just too many.
Too many goji berry.
Uh, black tea drinks man onetoo many no, but you're right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like everything you're saying, I'm just being
childish.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Um, yeah, you're right, um yeah, but yeah,
there's those songs, right, andyou guys know that it's not
really a big song, maybe it's ab-side song, but it's something
that represents you as a dj.
So that's what I'm talkingabout, right?
That, yeah, it's important.
Number two, layering andtexturing.
(09:32):
Like adding layers in your mix,like certain acapellas.
If you're adding like samplesor instrumentals on top of
another, that's perfect, it'sgreat, something that every DJ
should try to strive to, becauseyou want that creativity.
Again, it puts a stamp on howyou are, who you are as a DJ.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
What about stems?
That's part of this right, ohyeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Man stems is another creative uh thing.
Man stems honestly changed thegame like uh and you you already
started using stems oh yeah,I've been using it already,
already trying to find out likemini sets and stuff to use it on
I noticed you have like certainroutines already.
Yeah, yeah I love using, beingas creative as you can it.
It separates you from other DJs, right, because I know a lot of
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DJs who still don't use stemsright.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
A lot of them is because their computer won't be
able to handle it.
It's true, lots of DJs just getlike a cheap computer.
Yeah, I don't know why Half thepeople who don't use it that I
I met don't use it because theircomputer can't handle it.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, half yeah, that's a lot, that's a lot
that's a lot of people and withnowadays you have to keep up
with uh like, like technologyman, because especially with
djing ai uh, you need to keep upwith it.
So yeah, having a like a strong, powerful computer is crucial
if you want to use programs likestems and stuff, because it
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takes a lot of memory from yourcomputer, and so adding samples
and stuff that make you your ownstyle is important.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I always find Like your signature right the way you
play Exactly Number three, liveremixing and mashups again.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
You're so good at that, yeah I love doing it
because it's, it's cool, likehearing another beat with
another, like um lyrics or adifferent song on top of it.
Just, you wouldn't think thatwould mesh, uh, so well, but it
does.
Right, those are, those arenuggets right there, and if you
can incorporate those in yoursets, uh, you're golden man, you
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, that's, that's your style,right, the way you play, the way
you mix them, if you'rescratching it in, that's all you
know, unique to you, becauseyou all, everybody has different
styles of scratching to the waythey do it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, compared to two or three of the other DJs I
worked with before you and I metand one of them after we met
right, you know, you actuallyknow him too you were the one
who was by far the most creativein that aspect.
Specific, specifically, likethe way it's always different.
(12:24):
You have a routine, but it'svery unique.
All there's still somethingdifferent every time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the way youlike live, remix, smash, like
that's, that's really cool, man.
That's why one of the reasonswhy I was like I'm gonna make
sure that he got my number orlike that we can reach each
other after that that gigbecause I was like this guy's
gonna teach me.
(12:44):
You were so sure I I approachedlike two other guys and after
me, after I approached youbefore you approached me,
probably before.
I think you're the last one Ispoke to, okay, and um, there
was one, one more guy that Itold you about that had that
beautiful, amazing productionyeah, I forget, I forget.
I I would say his name if Iremembered his name but some
(13:09):
eastern european guy, no, likehonestly one of the best djs and
and and we got to talking aboutlike how much people charge
like I've already just startedDJing right For six months
probably and he told me that heonly charged like 15 or 1600.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Remember I told you His gig is crazy Like insane and
live a live band.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Apparently they were like all like together.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
He was bundled in with the live band.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm not sure Potentially, like the way he was
talking about it.
I'm like I must bemisunderstanding, but even even
if he wasn't the whole wedding,maybe they had connections, I
don't know, maybe they knew eachother, but it was really cheap,
but he was one of the best,honestly.
But the other, the other one Ididn't approach him but but the
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other ones were, yeah, like Ithink maybe they contacted me
but like I could tell okay, thisguy knows how to DJ better than
anyone else, right?
So like I never focused onanyone else.
And then everything that youtaught me actually you know like
happened exactly how you saidit would happen, like live gigs
(14:17):
and all that stuff, right?
That's when you really startlearning yeah so yeah, um anyway
.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Number four harmonic mixing yes, harmonic mixing is
very important for yourcreativity because it just adds
to that extra step of um, of ofmixing right, it's not just your
um, not just playing any songsback to back to back, it's
putting them in melodic, uh,positions where it sounds really
(14:50):
pleasing to the ear and yousometimes you can't even tell
that the song switched becauseit's so seamless and smooth and
it just, you know, melodicallyit just sounds perfect, right
together and that's that'sawesome.
If you guys are using harmonicmixing, like mixing in key is
totally amazing for that right,and yeah it, you can pick the
(15:12):
tracks by um, by the, the, thekey and the strength, like how,
um, how fire it is, or, or doyou have different levels for
that right?
If it's not so popular, you useit, or oh yeah, yeah, I'll use
that for that part, okay becauseI know you told me you want to
start using that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, all the cool features, and yeah, you start
using it I did start using it.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It's more for I think it's more for dance DJs like
EDM DJs.
It makes more sense that way,but it's.
It's cool if you can read thecrowd and have the same BPM
going, but of course you want toput it in that order if you're
reading the crowd Right.
So it's, it's good.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
That's stagnant though.
Yeah, we did.
Maybe that was at that coolvenue like that studio, Was that
there?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
No, no, that was somewhere else, that was another
thing.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
So that night I remember you played a lot of
like EDM style music, right, itwas they literally like it was
just like it turned into a club.
Yes, for like the last portion.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, they loved that .
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They gave me a playlist of like EDM stuff, so
like it was also like dance,like you know, lyrics, like
lyrical, but everything waselectronic, pretty much Right,
and I don't know if you werefollowing that day like or that
was just a routine you learnedby ear but it was perfect,
harmonically, everything.
It was just that was crazy,that was a good gig, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
That was fun man.
I played a little bit ofeverything too, like R&B and
that night I can't believe youdidn't do their wedding.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I thought you would and you said someone, somebody
else did.
You couldn't no that, like they, they either booked you for
some reason, you couldn't do it.
You said some Ed or somebodyelse.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
You said, somebody else did it oh, he did yeah, but
that's for another gig.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think you know it was for that one, because the
guy was like doing the warm,remember, and that's how we like
associated that gig.
The guy who did the warm likereally high, like really high up
oh yeah, you don't remember no,not really it's either a
useless memory or you have, Iforgot about that shit memory I
don't know either.
(17:22):
Either this is just somethingstupid to remember, or the way I
refer to it, maybe or, or.
Or maybe it's you and you havejust a memory okay maybe it's me
, I can't tell.
Probably it's probably stupid.
That's probably the one.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Um, all right, number five, my phone is locked, you
gotta okay number five is having, like, incorporating your
interactive like set elements,like, if you have um I have a
friend that uses um, his drumpad, to actually mimic drums
when he's playing a song, right,so he goes along with the beat
(17:58):
and it sounds cool.
It's like he's adding fills andstuff like that.
People are watching him andrecording him.
It's like he's adding his ownflair to it, right, and that's
it's important.
As a dj, that's one thing thatyou can do to make your sets
like stand, stand above andbeyond right yeah, yeah, we
spoke about that actually righton, like right in the beginning.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yes, how, when I was talking to you about hey, you
got to make yourself unique.
That's how you can get moregigs.
Remember, we said we're likesinging, singing, yeah, like a
package, like when they walkeddown the aisle Right.
Yeah, we were literallypracticing and we sounded better
than somebody that was hired.
Do you remember?
(18:39):
Like, how, like, and we weren'tthe ones, the only ones
thinking that somebody saidsomething, so anyway, and, and
the one they hired was okay, butwe sounded better.
So like that could literally bea service.
It could, but we need to have alot of songs, not like, oh, we
only sing these two songs.
Yeah, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So like, adding all of those extra elements extra
stuff like your, yourmusicianship, sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yes, it doesn't hurt Musicianship.
Musicianship, that's the wordof the day.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
What is the word your ?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Wow, I can't think of it right now.
Musicianship, it is Musicality.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Musicality, yeah.
And next number six is yourability to storytell.
Storytelling, yeah.
Storytelling, to take the youknow the set in a way that tells
a story.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Take them on a musical trip.
Yeah, it's like literally, likewithout talking, just through
music it's.
It's important you to immersethem in into the experience,
right?
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So yeah, storytelling , if you can uh bring them on a
musical journey, starting offmellow, then picking up, then
climax and back down.
You know it's more memorablethat way uh number seven visual
integration yeah, man, you weretalking about your.
Uh, that that gig before.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Visually oh yeah, uh, laser city gareth emery that
was that was insane.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and they had a.
What is that?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
the beginning so, uh, I like how immersive it was in
terms of, uh, not just theinsane lasers, um, but like they
were so like well synchronizedwith the music, but also I.
You know, it's kind of a simplething, I've seen them before,
but I love it when they have thescreen and the story of, like
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you know, I think she was tryinglike at this point I don't
remember exactly what it was,but she was trying to get to the
club and it was like her entirejourney until she got there.
And then, when she got there,suddenly like the video closes
and then you can see her onstage.
It was like there was a wholelike backstory and they fit it
into the music.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And she was actually singing on the track.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, she is the one who sings.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, Sick man Visual element.
That's cool.
Yeah, she is the one who sings.
Yeah, sick man.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, visual element, that's cool.
Yeah, so the lasers, that's themain thing.
But then that was like a reallynice addition.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Oh yeah, nice, Nice.
That's literally like what wewere talking about, like
storytelling as well.
That's a literal thing, rightthere.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, some things about it, like I said and how
she said.
But it was when you're in thatcommunity, like trance and, like
you know, like EDM, electronicmusic, yeah, like it's just,
it's different.
Like I, I feel like I'm likelike I'm 20 years ago, yeah,
like I don't know.
And when I'm in that atmosphereI feel nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, Do you drink when you're in that?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, honestly, that's that's all I do.
I just I drink.
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's likeit's enough for me.
I just drink a lot sometimes.
Yeah, but yeah, that's not aregular uh event.
The occasion that, like I go tothese kind of shows yeah, but
yeah, it's definitely like,definitely adds to it.
(22:05):
I went sober once.
How was that?
I forget why I went.
It was driving, but like it was, for Maybe you were the
designated driver, d&d, I was,but there was something else
that night.
Anyway, I had to drive, I hadto help them out with something
and I just decided not to drinkat all, like there's no point in
just having one beer, likeright.
So, and it was such a differentexperience when everyone's
(22:31):
drunk around you and like you'retotally sober.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You can see them all the change, right?
Yeah, and you're like wow do?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I do that when I'm drunk.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You're pretty bad sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
But, yeah, there was a moment where I was like the
music is kind of enough, like ittrips you out.
You know if you, if you, lovethat kind of music, of course,
man, but you definitely feelit's like that you're sober, but
the music like still makes it alot of fun.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, yeah such a different experience, but yeah,
like storytelling visualintegration, like, like if, if
the lights are going with themusic and stuff, it just adds
that extra element of uh, justamazingness, that's wow factor,
right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So yeah, all right um number eight and this is.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
This is the same thing that we were talking about
making it unique and stuffPersonal signature sounds.
Personal signature sounds Likeif you use certain sound effects
in your sets and you use themvery often, yeah, put those in.
It makes you unique, right?
It adds your flavor, sort of.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yes, and yeah, people know that.
Oh, that's Nino, you knowplaying, for sure, yeah the way
he scratches it in or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And then even your like dj drop right.
Add that in so everybody knowsyour name.
But this is not recommended ina wedding or private event and
mostly clubs and bars and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
That's kind of corny yeah, um number nine crowd
interaction.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, that's fun yeah , it's always fun, right,
getting people hyped up andsinging in in your sets is is
the way to go and so interactiveand it gets it's more deeper
for them.
It makes it more memorable whenthey're everything, can sing
along, because they rememberexactly how they feel at that
moment.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Too right, when you're doing that like
interaction yeah, people come toyou after, even not after
during the gig, and you killedit, man, oh, you're amazing.
Or the tips yes, always lovethe tips.
Thanks for playing that song.
Hey, I was gonna ask for thatsong, but you knew when to play
it anyway.
Yeah, like it's just, it's fun.
(24:42):
It's fun, right, like you'realready celebrating pretty much
every holiday there is with abunch of strangers as a dj,
right, sometimes you get luckyand you dj for people you know,
or return clients, right, yeah,but if you're already going to
be there, have a good time, havea great time.
Yeah, interact.
Um, yeah, you're very good withthe crowd I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know, there's always something anybody and
everybody can improve on right.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So yeah, you do a good job.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I try number 10, and this is pretty much what will
make you like unique is justtrying new things, experimenting
yeah, trying new things, likeexperimenting, like something
that doesn't go.
Don't think it doesn't go untilyou try it right.
Sometimes you'd be surprised,like certain songs, if you mash
(25:33):
them up together like that's notgonna go, like a rock song and
a rap song, but you put themtogether like, oh, it actually
sounds good, right.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
So trust your ears when it comes to stuff like that
yeah, have some guts when itcomes to um, you know, djing,
because that's in music, likethat's how lots of, lots of cool
things started.
Somebody tried by mistake,right yeah.
Or like some they went in theother direction.
Yeah, like of, like theinstructions or the manual or
something, right like you'renever gonna know, until you try
(26:03):
it genre yeah, it came out ofthat it
starts, yeah, it fuses something, yeah yeah, you do that all the
time with uh, your routines andeverything I try just to be a
little creative and add a newspin to things.
Right, yeah, spice up your setslike I said before you, even
though you have like a setroutine that, let's say,
(26:25):
somebody heard you DJ beforethat type of event, they'll know
, they'll know it's you Right.
But there's still little thingsyou change here and there just
to keep it a bit refreshed foreach client.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or every few gigs, yeah, yeah.
So it's good.
It shows you actually lovedoing this.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, well, there's a lot of djs that say they get
bored doing the same things.
Well, because you're notvarying your mixes, you're not
changing, you're playing thesame stuff, right?
So always try to play differentthings.
I'm not saying the whole sethas to be different, but maybe
add in songs that you don'tusually play to keep it fresh
and exciting for yourself, noteven just for the crowd, right?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
For me with my ADHD, like, honestly, it's so easy for
me to wander off to.
Oh, I wonder what that soundslike.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Did you do it live?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Honestly like eight or nine out of 10 times.
The idea was good.
One or two times out of those10, maybe it was fire.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Fire.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Fire fire fire fire truck.
Fire Fire fire fire Fire truck.
Fire truck emoji.
Fire truck emoji.
Every time I have one of thosecrazy ideas, I don't just set it
aside and think I'll do it nexttime.
No, I try it right away to seewhat happens, right, and I send
it to you or I tell you about it.
Hey, how do you think this isgoing to sound?
A couple of times you dismissedit.
(27:45):
No.
And then you even showed me like, oh yeah, nevermind, but no, I
had a few good ideas.
Yeah, don't be an asshole.
Great ideas, man Come on I hadgreat ideas, great, but yeah,
(28:05):
that's it.
So that is the end of ourepisode and thank you so much
for joining another clever djepisode yeah purge.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We'll see you.
The next one, guys see you nexttime.
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