July 29, 2024 • 27 mins
Ever felt the jitters of stepping into a completely new DJing environment? We’ve got you covered! This episode is packed with practical advice from seasoned DJs Elie and Nino on how to ace gigs that push you out of your comfort zone. Whether it's a cultural wedding or a bar with an eclectic music preference, we emphasize the importance of in-depth research on your audience and engaging with your clients. Discover how to create a playlist that resonates with the crowd by blending timeless classics with contemporary hits. Tune in for our personal anecdotes and expert tips that will help you keep the dance floor alive and buzzing.
Facing the unexpected is part and parcel of a DJ's life, and we share some of our most memorable challenges and solutions. From the nerve-wracking moment of playing a new track to dealing with a soaked laptop during an outdoor event, we recount our experiences with humor and resilience. We also discuss expanding your DJ repertoire through online forums, platforms, and networking with fellow DJs. Understanding cultural nuances and being honest with clients about your skills can make a world of difference. Join us to learn how to balance versatility with staying true to your passion and strengths, ensuring you deliver unforgettable performances every time.
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Ilia (00:10):
Welcome back to another episode of the Clever DJ Quick
intro about us and the podcastright before we start.
For those who are just tuningin for the first time or one of
your first times, whether youare watching us on YouTube or
listening on one of the otherplatforms audio only.
My name is Elie.
I've been a DJ for just abouttwo years now and I've done a
(00:35):
variety of events.
I hit the ground running aftermeeting Nino at a wedding where
everything just took off from.
Nino (00:44):
Yeah, well, once again, my name is Nino and I'm a
professional DJ.
I've been DJing for 20 plusyears now.
I started off with clubs andbars, now I'm doing more private
events, especially weddings,and now I have an established
business with 15 DJs under myroster 15.
15 plus me, with 15 DJs undermy roster 15.
Ilia (01:06):
15 plus me.
So I don't do weddings bymyself yet.
Hence you know I'm a beginner.
I've done a lot of other kindof gigs.
I've done gigs like weddings.
Like you know that, onebirthday at the um, at the um,
(01:27):
at the, at the hall, whereusually at the hall weddings
take place.
I forgot the name of the place,but uh, and the itinerary.
Everything was so meticulous,everything was so specific.
Um, there were a lot of thingsto remember you, but you were
there to help me out too.
Yeah, so we met while I wasbartending.
Nino (01:48):
Yeah.
Ilia (01:49):
And I was like hey, man, I should join your team.
Nino (01:53):
And like I, looked at this guy.
Who's this guy?
This guy is a waiter bartender.
I was a bartender.
You were offering me drinks.
Ilia (02:00):
Yes, I was like, listen, man, your life as a DJ is going
to change because I'm joiningyour team now.
Sure enough, no call, nothing.
Took him eight months.
Well, at least they called you.
They never call.
It was a text actually, right,yeah, text.
And then did you say you wantto talk on the phone or
(02:21):
something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did.
Yeah, I still have the textmessages.
By the way, he keeps everything, um, but yeah, I, um, I've done
a lot of a lot of gigs sincethen, slowly getting to the
weddings, doing the, doing it bymyself, but uh, yeah, I've been
here like social media and, uh,assistant, yeah, yeah, for the
(02:41):
most showed me a lot of valuewith social media.
Nino (02:43):
I'm like are you sure you want to be a dj?
You're a great photographer andvideographer man.
Ilia (02:48):
You don't want to do that yeah man, you think djing is
expensive?
Yeah man, oh my god, field is.
I remember I bought my firstcamera, my dslr.
I was like, okay, I'm gonna bea photographer.
Now, dude, my friend was aprofessional photographer.
I was like, okay, now we needthis, this, this, this, that I'm
like, yeah, I'm done.
Nino (03:07):
You're just starting, we're turning it to Costco.
Ilia (03:11):
Oh man, all right.
So today we have a very specialepisode.
It's how to prepare for a gigthat is different from your
usual style.
So, whether it's a differentculture wedding, maybe you've
never done clubs An ethnicwedding.
Nino (03:29):
Yeah, ethnic wedding.
If you've never done clubs orbars yet.
Ilia (03:33):
Just something you've never done before, whether it's
because of the ethnicity or theenvironment.
Nino (03:38):
If it's a new bar of a club that just opened up too as
well.
Ilia (03:41):
And you don't really know what's going to be acceptable
there.
How do you survive?
How do you do well?
So, yeah, uh well, you'll tellyour story later.
Um, so, first of all, you gotto research the crowd and the
music preference.
So if there's any way to speakto the client and find out from
(04:04):
the client what kind of whatkind of crowd goes there, what
do they like, maybe you can goand check, maybe you can
actually.
Nino (04:11):
The promoter yeah, you can go into the actual night the
club that you're potentiallygoing to work at.
It helps to see the actual whatthe DJ is playing and just to
see if everybody's vibing withthe, with the actual music and
stuff and being the environments, because you're going to be
playing pretty much the samething right, yeah, cultural,
cultural, uh, research, um.
Ilia (04:34):
Let's say, I had to do my first wedding, um, or not
wedding, uh a birthday, anindian birthday, and I knew that
they don't want just Indianmusic but they wanted a mix of
both.
So I have a lot of Indianfriends and I am already
accustomed to that music.
I like it myself, actually,personally.
But then I really did myresearch to make sure I don't
(04:56):
skip something that might beimportant.
I asked the client you know,just uh, really care, really
find out what you can about thatculture, about the type of
event, the type of crowd, allthat stuff.
Nino (05:08):
Ask for a list of favorite songs and genres.
Right, yeah, you got to curatea new playlist.
Ilia (05:15):
So your playlists are great, but they're probably not
going to work standalone.
Nino (05:21):
So what the couple or the crowd wants specifically.
Ask them for a playlist soit'll help you figure out what
they want specifically for thenight.
Ilia (05:30):
Right.
Nino (05:31):
They're literally spoon feeding you Right and like okay,
I like this song, this song,this song.
Put that on your sets, take it.
Take it how you can, because,trust me, hey, what's?
Ilia (05:42):
that's the best one.
What's your uh most favoritespotify playlist?
That's gold.
Yeah, yeah, everything's gonnabe on there.
Um.
You can then um get the musicfrom different, uh reputable
sources um, but you can find outfrom there what they're
listening to um, and then mixthe music.
(06:06):
Mix old and new music, whetherit's ethnic or non-ethnic, mix
it together so it's not too kindof categorized in the night and
then half the people are notdancing and the other half are
kind of like, you know, having agreat time.
Nino (06:22):
Yeah, have a good balance practice, practice mixing it and
stuff at home, so you know youget familiar with the actual
music.
Yeah Right, because you alreadyknow like the English stuff is
good.
But mixing it in with thecultural stuff is a little
different.
Ilia (06:39):
So got to practice different mixing techniques,
right.
Yes, gotta practice differentmixing techniques right.
Yes, like uh.
The last wedding I was at was auh chinese wedding with very uh
strong emphasis on chinesemusic and it was like very like
ethnic, cultural kind of music.
It did not work well with, likeyou know, canadian or US top 40
(07:02):
.
Nino (07:02):
Yeah, some clients and guests are straight from China
or some country or India rightso they want to hear what
they're familiar with.
So English is not going to cutit.
So that's why pay closeattention to what the client
gives you and pay attention tothe requests that you're getting
right, Because they're gold.
Ilia (07:23):
Yeah, and again, learn how to kind of mix it in together
properly.
Again, it's not the mostimportant skill, but it's going
to make you look better.
It's going to kind of not stumpthem when they're on the dance
floor.
Nino (07:35):
right, be very flexible with how you mix, too, with
songs that are coming in whenthey request it, because you
never know what's good.
Bpms are going to be totally upand down, right, so be prepared
to just take them on thejourney and make sure you can
mix it mix it in properly, right?
Ilia (07:54):
yeah, be quick.
Have have an assistant with you.
We spoke about it last episode.
Have an assistant with you.
Yeah, preferably somebody whoactually is from that culture or
has experience in that kind ofuh setting.
Uh, whether it's uh the cultureor a different kind of genre,
you never what?
If it's hip-hop, for example Idon't have a lot of experience
with hip-hop I'll bring him withme.
(08:14):
Or if he's probably busy atanother gig, I'll bring someone,
somebody else, who I have afriend who loves listening to
hip-hop.
He knows everything abouthip-hop they can help you with
certain songs and stuff you'rebringing them along right, um,
so I can do it, I can survive anight, but he knows everything.
He knows the newest tracks, thebest tracks, what to play, what
not to play, yeah, it doesn'tnecessarily have to be a dj, it
(08:36):
can be like a friend.
Nino (08:38):
Anyone who knows knows that type of music or same, same
ethnicity and stuff, right yeah, so it's really helpful.
Ilia (08:47):
Having someone with you is um.
Another thing is to be preparedtechnically.
So I was at middle easternevents where they would play, uh
, like certain drums uh, I know,I know it's called the dorbuka,
so they would and it would haveto be mic'd differently.
(09:07):
There were a lot of like livemusic.
There were like different likelooking guitars and stuff like
that.
There was a band and they hadto closely work with the DJ and
do sound checks and see ifeverything like plugs in
correctly and it just it's.
It's make sure that technicallyyou're prepared for any
situation.
Go in, do a sound check, findout what you might be required
(09:32):
to do that day yeah, the bandyou never know.
Nino (09:35):
Yeah, you're gonna play with a band back to back.
Make sure you don't play thesame songs or whatever.
It's gonna be tough becauseit's ethnic and you probably
don't even know the names of thesongs and stuff.
Right, yeah?
Ilia (09:46):
it's.
It's which leads us to the nextpoint engage with the audience.
This is where you want to takerequests.
This is where you welcomerequests.
You want them to come to youand give you an ask for for you
to play certain music again.
It can backfire if they ask forthe wrong stuff, but that's
when you have headphones, youlisten to it and you are
(10:09):
prepared.
Right, you did bring some stuffwith you already, so don't
waste it all.
Don't waste it all, um, withinhalf an hour yeah, you might
need it.
Nino (10:18):
Um, there's, you know.
You know if you're playing abanger, right.
If people are just going crazyand just moving around, let it
play for a little while, right,don't, don't cut it off really
like quick right now.
I remember that you used totell me that't don't cut it off
really like quick right now.
I remember that you used totell me that, yeah, don't cut it
off too quick.
They might get mad too, likeit's probably like a big song or
a song that they love.
Uh, if you cut it off too quick, they'll be like why?
(10:39):
In my early years I've run intothis situation a lot.
So make sure to play it out andand read the room, see, see
their body language, how they'removing.
Ilia (10:51):
If they're starting to slow down and fizzle out, then
switch the song I actuallyremember, uh, not too long ago,
there was a wedding where you,honestly, you played the song
quite like you played like 75 ofthat song.
Now I was even thinking, is hegonna transition that soon?
And you realize that they werereally enjoying it.
But you're like, okay, well,enough is enough.
(11:11):
And then we got all these looksstill right, and you found a
really nice way because one ofthose looks came from the actual
bride and groom, yeah, and youfound a way to bring it back.
It was just genius, like it was, so fluid it was.
It wasn't like okay, wait, letme, okay, let me bring this back
.
You just you emceed it backinto like I brought it back
(11:33):
right and you brought it back inthe right portion, like the 67%
mark or something like rightbefore that drop and just, and
the volume control is soimportant.
Nino (11:44):
Volume is expensive, yeah, yeah, be flexible.
Ilia (11:47):
Understand that you'll be in situations where you won't be
able to read the crowd thatwell, because because it's it's
a new, it's a new genre.
Right you're not, you're notused to playing this stuff new
genre, new uh setting, settinglike new environment, like it's.
It's not your usual go-to whereyou're feeling at home, right
take the feedback, whatever youcan, from whoever like the
(12:08):
client, the promoter, the guests, anything that you can get, and
normally you would actually geta lot of nice people coming to
you who can tell you're bombingif you are, and they'll be like
hey, listen, I think they'lllike this song if you play this,
they'll dance.
Nino (12:23):
You know what this is.
This is my time waiting for youyeah so, and early in my career
, um, I played an indian weddingand I was like, okay, I can do
this, I can do this, I do thewedding all indian.
They had dance performances,ethnic songs, pure like just.
I was like, oh my god, this isout of my element right now.
(12:46):
And then they I I learned thatthey didn't want any english
songs.
All their entrances, all indiansongs.
I'm like, oh my god okay, wasthat?
Ilia (12:54):
did you learn that when you were there or did you learn?
Did you do your researchbecause you were?
You're a beginner right.
Nino (12:59):
well, not, not really a beginner, I was still learning.
I've done a few, uh, indianweddings in the past, but
usually they're mixed Mixed Oneanother, ethnicity, right.
So a lot of Canadian songs, alot of US songs and stuff.
But this one was pure.
The bride and groom were bothIndian, so it was tough.
I looked at the time it's 10o'clock.
(13:22):
I'm like okay, I dropped a song.
They're going crazy for thefirst 30 seconds and then they
start fizzling out.
I'm like what?
Ilia (13:30):
am I gonna drop next?
So I have sweating I'm sweating.
Nino (13:32):
I'm like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna drop next?
And then people request and I'mlike, oh my god, okay, give me
a song, give me a song, and thenand then I play it, and then I
play it, and then they go crazy,and then after 30 seconds again
you start fizzling out.
Oh my god, I'm looking at thetime it's 10, 15, 10, 15.
I got three more hours of this.
I'm like that was tough man andyeah, I don't know that's get a
(13:54):
five-star review from that one.
I don't know, I don't know Idon't remember.
I don't think so, I don't thinkso, but I did well, they were
happy at the end, but theydidn't know what I had to go
through and you know, even theguests didn't know, they had no
idea.
There was just people randomly,um, uh, asking for requests and
I was.
I was really, really likehanging on them, right, how many
(14:18):
years ago was thisapproximately?
Ilia (14:19):
I don't know, man, like probably 10 years ago, yeah, and
so back then was spotify yeah,spotify was a thing, back then
it was just starting, I thinkyeah, so we didn't have the same
tools back then yeah, no, no,no, not, not at all youtube was
already a.
Nino (14:34):
Thing yeah, it was just starting to get big at that time
, I remember it was 10 years ago.
Ilia (14:39):
No, it was no, it was already like okay, yeah it
didn't come out like 2006, oryeah, yeah, okay, okay, but
still, yeah, we didn't have allthe tools back then, right, like
all the same kind of not whatwe have right now at the moment
like Spotify, uh, appleplaylists.
Nino (14:56):
I'm not sure exactly when all that stuff came out, but uh
yeah, yeah.
Ilia (15:00):
It was like in the middle of it, uh, of it's, uh.
So yeah, that was a.
Nino (15:05):
That was a tough one for me and I've been in certain
situations where it's similarlike that, but I've I've done a
really good job, like a decentjob, like yeah, good job to my
standards at that time, to mystandards, I rocked it all right
, you know what?
Ilia (15:22):
and then, speaking of rock , I almost forgot what I was
gonna say.
Thank god you said that becausethat's what sparked that memory
.
We met when you were doing arock event yes, it was either
your first or or, like your most, like intense rock it was
because it was all rock tooright, so that that was another
one where I was.
Nino (15:42):
But but no, I was prepared for that I.
Ilia (15:45):
I got a lot.
It wasn't easy, right, itwasn't easy, with somebody
asking you what you want todrink every two minutes.
Yeah, this guy gave me like 10cokes I, I.
Nino (15:54):
So he just kept on giving me cokes so like, okay, I used
to spank them with rum.
Oh, that's why it did so wellum, but that was tough, man, I
was, I was sweating, but no, Iwas, I was, okay, I I actually.
It's not.
It's different when it'senglish.
Ilia (16:11):
You can still understand what they're saying right, I
couldn't tell you had a toughtime because it seemed like you
were doing really well.
Nino (16:19):
I mean, like I couldn't tell you were stressing out that
the thing is you have to keepyour composure, stay
professional the whole time.
But I was, I was.
The dance was full.
Yeah, there is a sunday.
Ilia (16:29):
I was gonna say it was a sunday wedding it was a sunday
and it was just it ended.
I remember it and it's so late.
Yeah, the management was likeis he gonna finish soon?
Nino (16:38):
like it ended late and then it started storming outside
.
Yes, I remember my gear got wetbecause I brought it outside
too early.
Ilia (16:46):
Oh yeah, but yeah, did anything suffer like?
Did you suffer any losses?
No, no, no, okay, luckily.
Oh man, I remember your laptopone day got soaked, dude, did it
not work, or?
Nino (16:58):
something it.
It actually started that cpu.
The actual the keyboard gotsoaked when I was doing the
ceremony outside and then I hadto do the reception still inside
.
I noticed some of the keysweren't working.
I was like, oh my God, what am Igoing to do?
I couldn't.
I couldn't even check my myplaylist or all my sets, I'm
(17:21):
like.
So I was playing pretty muchoff of my phone, a playlist,
while you're like drying.
Well, I'm trying to dry that.
Yeah, I had my my my fanblowing on the computer.
Luckily, before the dancingstarted it, it started working.
Ilia (17:36):
I was like, oh, and you're still using the same computer,
right?
Yeah, and this guy has a brandnew macbook.
Nino (17:43):
I do macbook pro yeah, I'm getting, I'm, I'm making the
transition soon, soon enough,making.
How long has it been, man?
Ilia (17:51):
it's been a year or two, but it's hard when you have so
much stuff on that laptop, yeah,and you are blessed with like
20, 30 gigs every couple weeks,so and you have this team to run
like.
So I'm just saying he's notlazy, he has lazy, he has a lot
of stuff to do.
Nino (18:08):
I have a lot of stuff to do, so sometimes time is very
important for me, man, and youdon't have a lot of it, right?
Ilia (18:15):
He actually won't be at my birthday party.
Nino (18:18):
Sorry, are you butthurt about?
Ilia (18:20):
that.
Nino (18:21):
Well, you know.
I thought you'd be there butwhatever, I know it's a Sunday,
but you know sometimes they do.
Ilia (18:28):
Sunday.
I thought you'd be there.
Like I made it on Sunday onpurpose so everyone can show up.
Sorry, I should have.
I should have.
I should have booked you a longtime ago.
I should have booked you.
Yeah, but it's okay, we'regoing.
Nino (18:40):
we're going to go for dinner right after this dinner
yes, okay, we'll tell you it's 1, 0, 5 am.
They're closing at 3.
So yes, last call is 2.
We can make it righttechnically it's dinner for us.
Ilia (18:55):
Yeah, right, so we'll make it.
Oh, this is like our traditionwe eat pho.
Yeah, you say pho, right, it's,it's pronounced pho, it is pho
yeah, no, no, no, it ispronounced pho yeah, I mean, I
mean it's.
It's spelled as p--O, but it'spronounced pho, right, yeah,
yeah, I am excited.
Nino (19:11):
This is our thing, the best soup ever made, ever On the
planet.
Ilia (19:18):
Yeah.
So stay calm, stay professional.
You'll probably get certainrequests, or whether it's songs
or just certain like requests,to do certain things that are
not the usual things you're usedto.
Just, you know, adapt, beadaptable.
Nino (19:36):
Stay calm, professional, just like how I was.
That's why you can notice likehow I was sweating.
I didn't notice, I had no idea.
Ilia (19:41):
you were like stressing out yeah, um, and dress
appropriately.
Very important.
I don't know why, I just likepointed at you, but, uh, dress
appropriately because, uh, you,uh never know how important it
is to them, right?
If you're, obviously you don'thave to come in their like
traditional clothing, but youneed to ask, find out how they
(20:03):
want you to show up.
Yes, yes, exactly if it'ssomething out of the ordinary.
Nino (20:07):
Now, appropriately is like if it's a beach wedding, you
wear beach attire but you neverknow like like what.
If the couple is gonna, he'sgonna want you what if?
Everybody's decked out in suits.
Yeah, exactly right.
So, and then you're in shortsand yeah, yeah, um, what else,
what else?
Ilia (20:26):
so, really, that's, that's most of it.
I one more thing.
We spoke about it before.
Uh, I was at a chinese weddingand all some of the songs I
downloaded were with Chineseletters.
Yep, Characters Characters yeah, and Serato wasn't reading it
correctly, so I had to, like,prepare, rewrite everything and
(20:55):
know what my music is.
So be really prepared, becausethe last thing you want is to
have all the music but not haveit correctly in a playlist,
right?
So be flexible too.
Be flexible.
Nino (21:05):
Be ready to put in that work on that day, man Cause it's
going to feel like work.
Ilia (21:08):
Yes, yes, so yeah that, and, like we said, bring someone
with you who can really helpyou out.
If you have a friend or maybe afellow DJ or maybe an
apprentice who is, who sohappens to be from that culture
or had some experience that youmaybe didn't have right, it
helps, definitely helps.
(21:28):
And um, go on forums, go on.
Uh, um, there's a sites like aDJ tech tools.
Uh, there's a route of forums.
There's um digital.
There's a route of forums.
There's digital dj tips.
Nino (21:43):
There's just so many places where you can go and
learn certain things, thatcertain playlists and songs that
go with each other and likecrate hackers yeah, crate
hackers too right it's a goodapp soundcloud, mixcloud, all
those yes, that's where you canget all your music as well.
Ilia (21:56):
So, really, you will discover what it's like only
when you do it.
Nino (22:03):
This is something really stressful, but it's gonna
elevate you to a new level it'llget it'll, you'll get better as
you go along, and it's it'strue for me.
Um, like how I see it though,um, if you're not really
comfortable with doing like, say, like a wedding that you're not
like, especially like um, anethnic wedding, right, if you
(22:25):
are totally, totally out of thedark, I would honestly leave it
up to a professional, likesomeone who knows if you're
really out of that element, ifit's out of your element and you
don't screw it up and if you'renot gung-ho in learning it and
if you're not, going to in thefuture, if you know what kind of
dj you're going to be elementand you don't want to screw it
up, and if you're not gung-ho inlearning it.
And if you're not going to inthe future, if you know what
kind of DJ you're going to be,right, and you don't want to go
(22:46):
into that like ethnic route,right, give it to someone else
that's more qualified to do it.
Yeah, because you know youdon't want to ruin someone's day
, right?
Ilia (23:02):
And I never did, but it could have been better.
Or if, like, you're a club djand you like edm, but then
you're getting a wedding that'scompletely out of your, out of
your element, yeah now if you'regoing home to do it you can do
a good job.
Nino (23:10):
Yeah, you can.
You can get away with it.
You can do a good job andprobably kill it right,
depending on how if you care how, how, if you care, if you're
flexible and if you you know,just go for it Right.
But there's some DJs that don'twant to do certain genres Right
.
So stick to someone that knowswhat and how you can do it
(23:32):
properly.
Ilia (23:33):
Yeah.
So, um, maybe you can, um, giveit to another DJ, uh, for a
finder's fee, maybe you can just, you know what, hey man or hey
girl, I'll give you this gig andmaybe you can give me something
that is more like my type ofgig next time.
Nino (23:50):
So build relationships.
Build relationships with otherDJs, right, because you never
know, like, what they'll get,what they'll give you.
As well, you can be transparentwith the couple and tell them
you know, this is not really myforte, but you hired me for a
reason so I could do it, but itwould be different.
Yeah, Let them know that.
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No.
Ilia (24:10):
Hey you should maybe go for, for example, I had an event
and it was again anotherbirthday.
I do a lot of, lots ofbirthdays and they were all
newcomers from India and I toldthem hey, by the way, I have
lots of Indian music, I've doneIndian events, but I have some
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contacts who are the top here inToronto.
They are the ones you want tohire Now it's different.
Nino (24:39):
It doesn't matter If you have the music, that's great,
but it's different when youunderstand it and you know
ethnicity is.
Ilia (24:50):
You got to really understand their ways.
Nino (24:53):
The cultural nuances.
Ilia (24:55):
Yes, and you know what they will appreciate, not just
music, everything, but sometimesmusic is one of everything, but
some of them, music is one ofthe most important things to
them, right, which makes senseat certain events.
And uh, I told him, listen,like I have like the top three
DJs for for you, but I can stilldo the job.
Just be prepared that you know,maybe I won't know everything
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about your, your event or whatyou're looking for, so you'll
have to work with me and give mesome information and we can do.
You know we can prepare, we canplan the event correctly.
And they said that they couldn'thire those DJs because they're
extremely expensive.
Yeah, of course I wouldn'tcharge that much because that
wasn't my forte.
(25:37):
So I'm definitely not charging,overcharging or anything like
that because that wasn't myforte.
So I'm definitely not charging,uh, overcharging or anything
like that, because that's not anevent I usually do and I wanted
to kind of get into that, that,uh, that type of event.
So I just wanted to get moreexperience.
So it was great for me and youknow what they loved it because
I let them know ahead of timeyou were transparent with them.
You let them know I learned alot, you learned a lot.
Nino (25:58):
So many playlists that's the whole thing.
You can get better, so muchbetter, as a dj.
You can play any, any event,any genre, any ethnicity.
You want to strive for thatright to be the best yeah, and
that's because I wanted to.
Ilia (26:13):
so I have some friends who definitely I told them hey,
like you can make a lot of moneyand grow your business if you
don't just do clubs.
I mean, do you like playing top40 music?
And like, would you be okaywith learning how to mix certain
things that you right nowyou're not very comfortable with
?
They said, there's no way, nomatter for how much money,
they're not doing it, they don'tlike it.
Nino (26:32):
Yeah, right, so I understand that too.
Yeah, you have to understand it, so you have to understand it.
Ilia (26:37):
So do what you love, do what you love, and if you don't
like something, think abouttheir event.
Give it to someone else, yeahit's the right thing to do.
Alright, it's the right thingto do, well there we go, another
special episode another bangerof an episode yo so thank you
very much for joining and seeyou next week.
Nino (26:55):
See you in the next one, guys, guys.
Welcome back to another episode of the Clever DJ Quick
intro about us and the podcastright before we start.
For those who are just tuningin for the first time or one of
your first times, whether youare watching us on YouTube or
listening on one of the otherplatforms audio only.
My name is Elie.
I've been a DJ for just abouttwo years now and I've done a
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variety of events.
I hit the ground running aftermeeting Nino at a wedding where
everything just took off from.
Nino (00:44):
Yeah, well, once again, my name is Nino and I'm a
professional DJ.
I've been DJing for 20 plusyears now.
I started off with clubs andbars, now I'm doing more private
events, especially weddings,and now I have an established
business with 15 DJs under myroster 15.
15 plus me, with 15 DJs undermy roster 15.
Ilia (01:06):
15 plus me.
So I don't do weddings bymyself yet.
Hence you know I'm a beginner.
I've done a lot of other kindof gigs.
I've done gigs like weddings.
Like you know that, onebirthday at the um, at the um,
(01:27):
at the, at the hall, whereusually at the hall weddings
take place.
I forgot the name of the place,but uh, and the itinerary.
Everything was so meticulous,everything was so specific.
Um, there were a lot of thingsto remember you, but you were
there to help me out too.
Yeah, so we met while I wasbartending.
Nino (01:48):
Yeah.
Ilia (01:49):
And I was like hey, man, I should join your team.
Nino (01:53):
And like I, looked at this guy.
Who's this guy?
This guy is a waiter bartender.
I was a bartender.
You were offering me drinks.
Ilia (02:00):
Yes, I was like, listen, man, your life as a DJ is going
to change because I'm joiningyour team now.
Sure enough, no call, nothing.
Took him eight months.
Well, at least they called you.
They never call.
It was a text actually, right,yeah, text.
And then did you say you wantto talk on the phone or
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something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did.
Yeah, I still have the textmessages.
By the way, he keeps everything, um, but yeah, I, um, I've done
a lot of a lot of gigs sincethen, slowly getting to the
weddings, doing the, doing it bymyself, but uh, yeah, I've been
here like social media and, uh,assistant, yeah, yeah, for the
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most showed me a lot of valuewith social media.
Nino (02:43):
I'm like are you sure you want to be a dj?
You're a great photographer andvideographer man.
Ilia (02:48):
You don't want to do that yeah man, you think djing is
expensive?
Yeah man, oh my god, field is.
I remember I bought my firstcamera, my dslr.
I was like, okay, I'm gonna bea photographer.
Now, dude, my friend was aprofessional photographer.
I was like, okay, now we needthis, this, this, this, that I'm
like, yeah, I'm done.
Nino (03:07):
You're just starting, we're turning it to Costco.
Ilia (03:11):
Oh man, all right.
So today we have a very specialepisode.
It's how to prepare for a gigthat is different from your
usual style.
So, whether it's a differentculture wedding, maybe you've
never done clubs An ethnicwedding.
Nino (03:29):
Yeah, ethnic wedding.
If you've never done clubs orbars yet.
Ilia (03:33):
Just something you've never done before, whether it's
because of the ethnicity or theenvironment.
Nino (03:38):
If it's a new bar of a club that just opened up too as
well.
Ilia (03:41):
And you don't really know what's going to be acceptable
there.
How do you survive?
How do you do well?
So, yeah, uh well, you'll tellyour story later.
Um, so, first of all, you gotto research the crowd and the
music preference.
So if there's any way to speakto the client and find out from
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the client what kind of whatkind of crowd goes there, what
do they like, maybe you can goand check, maybe you can
actually.
Nino (04:11):
The promoter yeah, you can go into the actual night the
club that you're potentiallygoing to work at.
It helps to see the actual whatthe DJ is playing and just to
see if everybody's vibing withthe, with the actual music and
stuff and being the environments, because you're going to be
playing pretty much the samething right, yeah, cultural,
cultural, uh, research, um.
Ilia (04:34):
Let's say, I had to do my first wedding, um, or not
wedding, uh a birthday, anindian birthday, and I knew that
they don't want just Indianmusic but they wanted a mix of
both.
So I have a lot of Indianfriends and I am already
accustomed to that music.
I like it myself, actually,personally.
But then I really did myresearch to make sure I don't
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skip something that might beimportant.
I asked the client you know,just uh, really care, really
find out what you can about thatculture, about the type of
event, the type of crowd, allthat stuff.
Nino (05:08):
Ask for a list of favorite songs and genres.
Right, yeah, you got to curatea new playlist.
Ilia (05:15):
So your playlists are great, but they're probably not
going to work standalone.
Nino (05:21):
So what the couple or the crowd wants specifically.
Ask them for a playlist soit'll help you figure out what
they want specifically for thenight.
Ilia (05:30):
Right.
Nino (05:31):
They're literally spoon feeding you Right and like okay,
I like this song, this song,this song.
Put that on your sets, take it.
Take it how you can, because,trust me, hey, what's?
Ilia (05:42):
that's the best one.
What's your uh most favoritespotify playlist?
That's gold.
Yeah, yeah, everything's gonnabe on there.
Um.
You can then um get the musicfrom different, uh reputable
sources um, but you can find outfrom there what they're
listening to um, and then mixthe music.
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Mix old and new music, whetherit's ethnic or non-ethnic, mix
it together so it's not too kindof categorized in the night and
then half the people are notdancing and the other half are
kind of like, you know, having agreat time.
Nino (06:22):
Yeah, have a good balance practice, practice mixing it and
stuff at home, so you know youget familiar with the actual
music.
Yeah Right, because you alreadyknow like the English stuff is
good.
But mixing it in with thecultural stuff is a little
different.
Ilia (06:39):
So got to practice different mixing techniques,
right.
Yes, gotta practice differentmixing techniques right.
Yes, like uh.
The last wedding I was at was auh chinese wedding with very uh
strong emphasis on chinesemusic and it was like very like
ethnic, cultural kind of music.
It did not work well with, likeyou know, canadian or US top 40
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.
Nino (07:02):
Yeah, some clients and guests are straight from China
or some country or India rightso they want to hear what
they're familiar with.
So English is not going to cutit.
So that's why pay closeattention to what the client
gives you and pay attention tothe requests that you're getting
right, Because they're gold.
Ilia (07:23):
Yeah, and again, learn how to kind of mix it in together
properly.
Again, it's not the mostimportant skill, but it's going
to make you look better.
It's going to kind of not stumpthem when they're on the dance
floor.
Nino (07:35):
right, be very flexible with how you mix, too, with
songs that are coming in whenthey request it, because you
never know what's good.
Bpms are going to be totally upand down, right, so be prepared
to just take them on thejourney and make sure you can
mix it mix it in properly, right?
Ilia (07:54):
yeah, be quick.
Have have an assistant with you.
We spoke about it last episode.
Have an assistant with you.
Yeah, preferably somebody whoactually is from that culture or
has experience in that kind ofuh setting.
Uh, whether it's uh the cultureor a different kind of genre,
you never what?
If it's hip-hop, for example Idon't have a lot of experience
with hip-hop I'll bring him withme.
(08:14):
Or if he's probably busy atanother gig, I'll bring someone,
somebody else, who I have afriend who loves listening to
hip-hop.
He knows everything abouthip-hop they can help you with
certain songs and stuff you'rebringing them along right, um,
so I can do it, I can survive anight, but he knows everything.
He knows the newest tracks, thebest tracks, what to play, what
not to play, yeah, it doesn'tnecessarily have to be a dj, it
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can be like a friend.
Nino (08:38):
Anyone who knows knows that type of music or same, same
ethnicity and stuff, right yeah, so it's really helpful.
Ilia (08:47):
Having someone with you is um.
Another thing is to be preparedtechnically.
So I was at middle easternevents where they would play, uh
, like certain drums uh, I know,I know it's called the dorbuka,
so they would and it would haveto be mic'd differently.
(09:07):
There were a lot of like livemusic.
There were like different likelooking guitars and stuff like
that.
There was a band and they hadto closely work with the DJ and
do sound checks and see ifeverything like plugs in
correctly and it just it's.
It's make sure that technicallyyou're prepared for any
situation.
Go in, do a sound check, findout what you might be required
(09:32):
to do that day yeah, the bandyou never know.
Nino (09:35):
Yeah, you're gonna play with a band back to back.
Make sure you don't play thesame songs or whatever.
It's gonna be tough becauseit's ethnic and you probably
don't even know the names of thesongs and stuff.
Right, yeah?
Ilia (09:46):
it's.
It's which leads us to the nextpoint engage with the audience.
This is where you want to takerequests.
This is where you welcomerequests.
You want them to come to youand give you an ask for for you
to play certain music again.
It can backfire if they ask forthe wrong stuff, but that's
when you have headphones, youlisten to it and you are
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prepared.
Right, you did bring some stuffwith you already, so don't
waste it all.
Don't waste it all, um, withinhalf an hour yeah, you might
need it.
Nino (10:18):
Um, there's, you know.
You know if you're playing abanger, right.
If people are just going crazyand just moving around, let it
play for a little while, right,don't, don't cut it off really
like quick right now.
I remember that you used totell me that't don't cut it off
really like quick right now.
I remember that you used totell me that, yeah, don't cut it
off too quick.
They might get mad too, likeit's probably like a big song or
a song that they love.
Uh, if you cut it off too quick, they'll be like why?
(10:39):
In my early years I've run intothis situation a lot.
So make sure to play it out andand read the room, see, see
their body language, how they'removing.
Ilia (10:51):
If they're starting to slow down and fizzle out, then
switch the song I actuallyremember, uh, not too long ago,
there was a wedding where you,honestly, you played the song
quite like you played like 75 ofthat song.
Now I was even thinking, is hegonna transition that soon?
And you realize that they werereally enjoying it.
But you're like, okay, well,enough is enough.
(11:11):
And then we got all these looksstill right, and you found a
really nice way because one ofthose looks came from the actual
bride and groom, yeah, and youfound a way to bring it back.
It was just genius, like it was, so fluid it was.
It wasn't like okay, wait, letme, okay, let me bring this back
.
You just you emceed it backinto like I brought it back
(11:33):
right and you brought it back inthe right portion, like the 67%
mark or something like rightbefore that drop and just, and
the volume control is soimportant.
Nino (11:44):
Volume is expensive, yeah, yeah, be flexible.
Ilia (11:47):
Understand that you'll be in situations where you won't be
able to read the crowd thatwell, because because it's it's
a new, it's a new genre.
Right you're not, you're notused to playing this stuff new
genre, new uh setting, settinglike new environment, like it's.
It's not your usual go-to whereyou're feeling at home, right
take the feedback, whatever youcan, from whoever like the
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client, the promoter, the guests, anything that you can get, and
normally you would actually geta lot of nice people coming to
you who can tell you're bombingif you are, and they'll be like
hey, listen, I think they'lllike this song if you play this,
they'll dance.
Nino (12:23):
You know what this is.
This is my time waiting for youyeah so, and early in my career
, um, I played an indian weddingand I was like, okay, I can do
this, I can do this, I do thewedding all indian.
They had dance performances,ethnic songs, pure like just.
I was like, oh my god, this isout of my element right now.
(12:46):
And then they I I learned thatthey didn't want any english
songs.
All their entrances, all indiansongs.
I'm like, oh my god okay, wasthat?
Ilia (12:54):
did you learn that when you were there or did you learn?
Did you do your researchbecause you were?
You're a beginner right.
Nino (12:59):
well, not, not really a beginner, I was still learning.
I've done a few, uh, indianweddings in the past, but
usually they're mixed Mixed Oneanother, ethnicity, right.
So a lot of Canadian songs, alot of US songs and stuff.
But this one was pure.
The bride and groom were bothIndian, so it was tough.
I looked at the time it's 10o'clock.
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I'm like okay, I dropped a song.
They're going crazy for thefirst 30 seconds and then they
start fizzling out.
I'm like what?
Ilia (13:30):
am I gonna drop next?
So I have sweating I'm sweating.
Nino (13:32):
I'm like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna drop next?
And then people request and I'mlike, oh my god, okay, give me
a song, give me a song, and thenand then I play it, and then I
play it, and then they go crazy,and then after 30 seconds again
you start fizzling out.
Oh my god, I'm looking at thetime it's 10, 15, 10, 15.
I got three more hours of this.
I'm like that was tough man andyeah, I don't know that's get a
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five-star review from that one.
I don't know, I don't know Idon't remember.
I don't think so, I don't thinkso, but I did well, they were
happy at the end, but theydidn't know what I had to go
through and you know, even theguests didn't know, they had no
idea.
There was just people randomly,um, uh, asking for requests and
I was.
I was really, really likehanging on them, right, how many
(14:18):
years ago was thisapproximately?
Ilia (14:19):
I don't know, man, like probably 10 years ago, yeah, and
so back then was spotify yeah,spotify was a thing, back then
it was just starting, I thinkyeah, so we didn't have the same
tools back then yeah, no, no,no, not, not at all youtube was
already a.
Nino (14:34):
Thing yeah, it was just starting to get big at that time
, I remember it was 10 years ago.
Ilia (14:39):
No, it was no, it was already like okay, yeah it
didn't come out like 2006, oryeah, yeah, okay, okay, but
still, yeah, we didn't have allthe tools back then, right, like
all the same kind of not whatwe have right now at the moment
like Spotify, uh, appleplaylists.
Nino (14:56):
I'm not sure exactly when all that stuff came out, but uh
yeah, yeah.
Ilia (15:00):
It was like in the middle of it, uh, of it's, uh.
So yeah, that was a.
Nino (15:05):
That was a tough one for me and I've been in certain
situations where it's similarlike that, but I've I've done a
really good job, like a decentjob, like yeah, good job to my
standards at that time, to mystandards, I rocked it all right
, you know what?
Ilia (15:22):
and then, speaking of rock , I almost forgot what I was
gonna say.
Thank god you said that becausethat's what sparked that memory
.
We met when you were doing arock event yes, it was either
your first or or, like your most, like intense rock it was
because it was all rock tooright, so that that was another
one where I was.
Nino (15:42):
But but no, I was prepared for that I.
Ilia (15:45):
I got a lot.
It wasn't easy, right, itwasn't easy, with somebody
asking you what you want todrink every two minutes.
Yeah, this guy gave me like 10cokes I, I.
Nino (15:54):
So he just kept on giving me cokes so like, okay, I used
to spank them with rum.
Oh, that's why it did so wellum, but that was tough, man, I
was, I was sweating, but no, Iwas, I was, okay, I I actually.
It's not.
It's different when it'senglish.
Ilia (16:11):
You can still understand what they're saying right, I
couldn't tell you had a toughtime because it seemed like you
were doing really well.
Nino (16:19):
I mean, like I couldn't tell you were stressing out that
the thing is you have to keepyour composure, stay
professional the whole time.
But I was, I was.
The dance was full.
Yeah, there is a sunday.
Ilia (16:29):
I was gonna say it was a sunday wedding it was a sunday
and it was just it ended.
I remember it and it's so late.
Yeah, the management was likeis he gonna finish soon?
Nino (16:38):
like it ended late and then it started storming outside
.
Yes, I remember my gear got wetbecause I brought it outside
too early.
Ilia (16:46):
Oh yeah, but yeah, did anything suffer like?
Did you suffer any losses?
No, no, no, okay, luckily.
Oh man, I remember your laptopone day got soaked, dude, did it
not work, or?
Nino (16:58):
something it.
It actually started that cpu.
The actual the keyboard gotsoaked when I was doing the
ceremony outside and then I hadto do the reception still inside
.
I noticed some of the keysweren't working.
I was like, oh my God, what am Igoing to do?
I couldn't.
I couldn't even check my myplaylist or all my sets, I'm
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like.
So I was playing pretty muchoff of my phone, a playlist,
while you're like drying.
Well, I'm trying to dry that.
Yeah, I had my my my fanblowing on the computer.
Luckily, before the dancingstarted it, it started working.
Ilia (17:36):
I was like, oh, and you're still using the same computer,
right?
Yeah, and this guy has a brandnew macbook.
Nino (17:43):
I do macbook pro yeah, I'm getting, I'm, I'm making the
transition soon, soon enough,making.
How long has it been, man?
Ilia (17:51):
it's been a year or two, but it's hard when you have so
much stuff on that laptop, yeah,and you are blessed with like
20, 30 gigs every couple weeks,so and you have this team to run
like.
So I'm just saying he's notlazy, he has lazy, he has a lot
of stuff to do.
Nino (18:08):
I have a lot of stuff to do, so sometimes time is very
important for me, man, and youdon't have a lot of it, right?
Ilia (18:15):
He actually won't be at my birthday party.
Nino (18:18):
Sorry, are you butthurt about?
Ilia (18:20):
that.
Nino (18:21):
Well, you know.
I thought you'd be there butwhatever, I know it's a Sunday,
but you know sometimes they do.
Ilia (18:28):
Sunday.
I thought you'd be there.
Like I made it on Sunday onpurpose so everyone can show up.
Sorry, I should have.
I should have.
I should have booked you a longtime ago.
I should have booked you.
Yeah, but it's okay, we'regoing.
Nino (18:40):
we're going to go for dinner right after this dinner
yes, okay, we'll tell you it's 1, 0, 5 am.
They're closing at 3.
So yes, last call is 2.
We can make it righttechnically it's dinner for us.
Ilia (18:55):
Yeah, right, so we'll make it.
Oh, this is like our traditionwe eat pho.
Yeah, you say pho, right, it's,it's pronounced pho, it is pho
yeah, no, no, no, it ispronounced pho yeah, I mean, I
mean it's.
It's spelled as p--O, but it'spronounced pho, right, yeah,
yeah, I am excited.
Nino (19:11):
This is our thing, the best soup ever made, ever On the
planet.
Ilia (19:18):
Yeah.
So stay calm, stay professional.
You'll probably get certainrequests, or whether it's songs
or just certain like requests,to do certain things that are
not the usual things you're usedto.
Just, you know, adapt, beadaptable.
Nino (19:36):
Stay calm, professional, just like how I was.
That's why you can notice likehow I was sweating.
I didn't notice, I had no idea.
Ilia (19:41):
you were like stressing out yeah, um, and dress
appropriately.
Very important.
I don't know why, I just likepointed at you, but, uh, dress
appropriately because, uh, you,uh never know how important it
is to them, right?
If you're, obviously you don'thave to come in their like
traditional clothing, but youneed to ask, find out how they
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want you to show up.
Yes, yes, exactly if it'ssomething out of the ordinary.
Nino (20:07):
Now, appropriately is like if it's a beach wedding, you
wear beach attire but you neverknow like like what.
If the couple is gonna, he'sgonna want you what if?
Everybody's decked out in suits.
Yeah, exactly right.
So, and then you're in shortsand yeah, yeah, um, what else,
what else?
Ilia (20:26):
so, really, that's, that's most of it.
I one more thing.
We spoke about it before.
Uh, I was at a chinese weddingand all some of the songs I
downloaded were with Chineseletters.
Yep, Characters Characters yeah, and Serato wasn't reading it
correctly, so I had to, like,prepare, rewrite everything and
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know what my music is.
So be really prepared, becausethe last thing you want is to
have all the music but not haveit correctly in a playlist,
right?
So be flexible too.
Be flexible.
Nino (21:05):
Be ready to put in that work on that day, man Cause it's
going to feel like work.
Ilia (21:08):
Yes, yes, so yeah that, and, like we said, bring someone
with you who can really helpyou out.
If you have a friend or maybe afellow DJ or maybe an
apprentice who is, who sohappens to be from that culture
or had some experience that youmaybe didn't have right, it
helps, definitely helps.
(21:28):
And um, go on forums, go on.
Uh, um, there's a sites like aDJ tech tools.
Uh, there's a route of forums.
There's um digital.
There's a route of forums.
There's digital dj tips.
Nino (21:43):
There's just so many places where you can go and
learn certain things, thatcertain playlists and songs that
go with each other and likecrate hackers yeah, crate
hackers too right it's a goodapp soundcloud, mixcloud, all
those yes, that's where you canget all your music as well.
Ilia (21:56):
So, really, you will discover what it's like only
when you do it.
Nino (22:03):
This is something really stressful, but it's gonna
elevate you to a new level it'llget it'll, you'll get better as
you go along, and it's it'strue for me.
Um, like how I see it though,um, if you're not really
comfortable with doing like, say, like a wedding that you're not
like, especially like um, anethnic wedding, right, if you
(22:25):
are totally, totally out of thedark, I would honestly leave it
up to a professional, likesomeone who knows if you're
really out of that element, ifit's out of your element and you
don't screw it up and if you'renot gung-ho in learning it and
if you're not, going to in thefuture, if you know what kind of
dj you're going to be elementand you don't want to screw it
up, and if you're not gung-ho inlearning it.
And if you're not going to inthe future, if you know what
kind of DJ you're going to be,right, and you don't want to go
(22:46):
into that like ethnic route,right, give it to someone else
that's more qualified to do it.
Yeah, because you know youdon't want to ruin someone's day
, right?
Ilia (23:02):
And I never did, but it could have been better.
Or if, like, you're a club djand you like edm, but then
you're getting a wedding that'scompletely out of your, out of
your element, yeah now if you'regoing home to do it you can do
a good job.
Nino (23:10):
Yeah, you can.
You can get away with it.
You can do a good job andprobably kill it right,
depending on how if you care how, how, if you care, if you're
flexible and if you you know,just go for it Right.
But there's some DJs that don'twant to do certain genres Right
.
So stick to someone that knowswhat and how you can do it
(23:32):
properly.
Ilia (23:33):
Yeah.
So, um, maybe you can, um, giveit to another DJ, uh, for a
finder's fee, maybe you can just, you know what, hey man or hey
girl, I'll give you this gig andmaybe you can give me something
that is more like my type ofgig next time.
Nino (23:50):
So build relationships.
Build relationships with otherDJs, right, because you never
know, like, what they'll get,what they'll give you.
As well, you can be transparentwith the couple and tell them
you know, this is not really myforte, but you hired me for a
reason so I could do it, but itwould be different.
Yeah, Let them know that.
(24:10):
No.
Ilia (24:10):
Hey you should maybe go for, for example, I had an event
and it was again anotherbirthday.
I do a lot of, lots ofbirthdays and they were all
newcomers from India and I toldthem hey, by the way, I have
lots of Indian music, I've doneIndian events, but I have some
(24:31):
contacts who are the top here inToronto.
They are the ones you want tohire Now it's different.
Nino (24:39):
It doesn't matter If you have the music, that's great,
but it's different when youunderstand it and you know
ethnicity is.
Ilia (24:50):
You got to really understand their ways.
Nino (24:53):
The cultural nuances.
Ilia (24:55):
Yes, and you know what they will appreciate, not just
music, everything, but sometimesmusic is one of everything, but
some of them, music is one ofthe most important things to
them, right, which makes senseat certain events.
And uh, I told him, listen,like I have like the top three
DJs for for you, but I can stilldo the job.
Just be prepared that you know,maybe I won't know everything
(25:16):
about your, your event or whatyou're looking for, so you'll
have to work with me and give mesome information and we can do.
You know we can prepare, we canplan the event correctly.
And they said that they couldn'thire those DJs because they're
extremely expensive.
Yeah, of course I wouldn'tcharge that much because that
wasn't my forte.
(25:37):
So I'm definitely not charging,overcharging or anything like
that because that wasn't myforte.
So I'm definitely not charging,uh, overcharging or anything
like that, because that's not anevent I usually do and I wanted
to kind of get into that, that,uh, that type of event.
So I just wanted to get moreexperience.
So it was great for me and youknow what they loved it because
I let them know ahead of timeyou were transparent with them.
You let them know I learned alot, you learned a lot.
Nino (25:58):
So many playlists that's the whole thing.
You can get better, so muchbetter, as a dj.
You can play any, any event,any genre, any ethnicity.
You want to strive for thatright to be the best yeah, and
that's because I wanted to.
Ilia (26:13):
so I have some friends who definitely I told them hey,
like you can make a lot of moneyand grow your business if you
don't just do clubs.
I mean, do you like playing top40 music?
And like, would you be okaywith learning how to mix certain
things that you right nowyou're not very comfortable with
?
They said, there's no way, nomatter for how much money,
they're not doing it, they don'tlike it.
Nino (26:32):
Yeah, right, so I understand that too.
Yeah, you have to understand it, so you have to understand it.
Ilia (26:37):
So do what you love, do what you love, and if you don't
like something, think abouttheir event.
Give it to someone else, yeahit's the right thing to do.
Alright, it's the right thingto do, well there we go, another
special episode another bangerof an episode yo so thank you
very much for joining and seeyou next week.
Nino (26:55):
See you in the next one, guys, guys.
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