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June 20, 2025 21 mins

Fighting isn't just physical combat – it's a journey that reveals who one is at their core. This revelation forms the backbone of my passionate breakdown of what makes certain fighters special in their approach to MMA.

After briefly recapping UFC Atlanta, where Rose Namajunas proved her technique translates perfectly to 125 pounds and Kamaru Usman secured a run-of-the-mill victory over Joaquin Buckley, I dive into Jon Jones' latest attention-seeking behavior. His calls for a Francis Ngannou fight while avoiding Tom Aspinall expose a calculated strategy of pursuing unrealistic matchups to avoid legitimate contenders. listen to me explain why the economics simply don't work!

The heart of this episode explores the upcoming Hill vs. Roundtree fight through a different lens. Khalil Roundtree embodies what I most admire in fighters – those who discover martial arts as a path for personal transformation. Unlike fighters born into combat sports traditions or those who join to escape trouble, Roundtree represents athletes who find in fighting a means to channel emotional energy into disciplined growth. His journey from someone just looking to lose weight, to a world traveler training in places such as Thailand shows how fighting becomes more than competition – it becomes IDENTITY.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, welcome back to the Clinch Podcast.
If you don't already know, myname is Shay and I will warn you
this might be a bit of ashorter episode, just because
not a lot has happened this week, but there have been a few fun
things that have happened that Iwant to go ahead and talk about
.
So we'll go ahead and getstarted with UFC Atlanta, of
course.

(00:20):
So for this one, we'll go aheadand start with the co-main
event.
Of course, I was very happythat Rose won.
I thought Miranda did betterthan I anticipated her doing,
and by that I just really meanshe just looked really strong.
I wasn't really moved orimpressed, and that's not

(00:42):
necessarily because I'm a superRose fan.
It's just because Rose reallyshowed her why her technique is
to be respected, even in aweight division above, where a
lot of her moments have been,her big moments happen.
So I was happy.
I think that Rose showed thatshe can do just the same amount
of damage in 125 as she did in115.

(01:06):
So I'm really excited to seewhoever she gets next.
I think that it might be ErinBlanchfield, maybe, or maybe I
don't know.
I don't know who might be next.
And the main event we saw KamaruUsman versus Joaquin Buckley
and I'm not even going to lie, Ididn't make it through the

(01:27):
fight.
A lot of fights went all theway, they went full distance and
Mama was tired, so I prettymuch knew that's how it was
going to end, so I just letmyself fall asleep.
Not that it was a boring fight,it was exciting.
I watched it was a boring fight, it was exciting.
I watched it back the next day,but I mean it just it was very

(01:55):
exciting, lay and pray kind of.
So I don't know, disagree withme if you want.
I just I don't really have muchto say about it.
That hasn't been said aboutKamaru Uzman before and there
hasn't really been enoughexcitement for me to really go
any deeper.
So we'll leave it at that andmove on to Jon Jones.

(02:18):
Again, I know it sounds like I'ma fan at this point, but he
really is just trying to stayrelevant every single week.
So because he's always tryingto stay relevant, I always have
something to talk about when itcomes to him.
So with John, what it?
What the story is this week ishe wants to fight Francis again.

(02:39):
He's like oh, I think we canmake it happen, dana can get
things done, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness.
Like a few weeks ago it wasokay, yeah, maybe I'll fight Tom
.
Now it's like, oh, tom, doesn'texcite me again.
It's like, dude, just fight him.

(03:00):
Like I'm like, oh, it's just soaggravating because he really
doesn't have any other optionsif he wants to, if he wants to
compete.
I don't understand why he iseven calling out Francis again
when he's not on the UFC roster.

(03:20):
Like, I understand Dana can getit done, yeah, but is Francis
going to want to come over?
No, because Dana doesn't wantto pay him what Francis has been
offering him.
We've talked about this in afew episodes before.
Francis is not going to gowhere he's not valued.
He asked for a specific amountof money that wasn't

(03:41):
particularly exuberant and hedidn't get it.
And he was made out to be someperson who asked for, like Conor
McGregor level money whenthat's not the case.
And it's just so aggravating tofight Tom.
Like, just fight Tom.
He is on the UFC roster, he'sready and available.

(04:01):
Like, just do it, but it won'thappen.
I'm not sure what's going.
And available Like, just do it,but it won't happen.
I'm not sure what's going tohappen.
Francis is not happening.
I don't understand what John orwho John thinks he's fooling,
but any MMA fan with an extramarble in their brain can tell

(04:22):
you that the reason Francis leftis because he wasn't getting
paid.
So in order for him to makethis fight happen, he's going to
have to pay Francis all themoney that he's asking and John
all the money he's asking, whenthe cheaper fight to make is

(04:43):
John versus Tom, and John knowsthat.
So all these things he's sayingabout Francis and Ghanu is BS,
because he knows it's not goingto happen, it's not in the
budget, like it's not, like Idon't know.
I don't know what they're goingto end up doing.
I am partly curious, but mostlyhoping it just kind of fizzles

(05:07):
out and goes away like theChandler-Connor fight did.
But I'm not sure.
I hope Tom just books a fight.
I hope he just books one and wedon't have to worry about the
division being held back anymoreand Dana just finally stops
being silly himself and stopssaying that it's silly for John

(05:30):
to be stripped.
It's a mess, it's a mess.
I don't know how comfy thosebeds are, but John is way too
comfy in that bed, in the UFCbed, and no one's meeting him
there anymore.
So I don't know what he'swaiting for.
I don't know.

(05:51):
But that's all we'll say abouthim and we'll go ahead and move
on to this upcoming fight card,which is Jamal Hill versus
Khalil Roundtree.
I'm really excited about thatone and the co-main event too,

(06:13):
that is Rafael Fizeyev versus Ican never pronounce it right
versus Ignacio Balmondes.
That is going to be fireworks.
It's going to be fireworks.
I'm so excited for that co-mainevent.
I think that that better befight of the night.
Like it has all the ingredientsto be fight of the night.
Think that it's very wellmatched energy-wise, pace-wise.

(06:47):
I think that Fizeev might havethe edge in technique, but
Ignacio might have the edge inferocity.
So we'll just see.
We will just see.
I'm super excited.
Let me know what you guys think, who you think is going to win
that one.
And for the main event, youguys know I'm excited for this

(07:09):
one.
If you've listened to myprevious episodes, you know how
I feel about Jamal Hill and youknow how I feel about Khalil
Roundtree.
And if you don't know, I willtell you.
I think Jamal Hill is soannoying, like he's so
aggravating.
He is like a chihuahua in a, aMastiff's body.

(07:34):
It is just so aggravating howhe approaches his fight,
interviews his opponents.
That chip on his shoulder isfeminine to me in some way, like
just, I don't know, I don'twant to keep talking, but it's

(07:55):
just.
I'm not a fan of him as aperson and as a fighter he
doesn't excite me.
So I'm really going for Khalil.
I think that his story is sofire.
If you don't know about him, hewas on the Ultimate Fighter and
he got into the MMA world alittle later on, you know, not

(08:19):
like you know, like two later on, but I think maybe early 20s or
something like that.
And he originally went becauseI think he said he was just a
little more overweight than hewould like to be and he just
kind of started going.
And from there he found anatural talent and he has

(08:40):
trained in Thailand.
He's just traveled the worldjust training and absorbing and
just soaking in everything.
And I think that the fight withPereira was I I didn't think it
was a bad fight, I thought thathe was so gritty and he showed

(09:00):
a lot of skill and the fight, Imean the outcome was really just
because Alex is who he is, alexPereira is, he's got a pressure
that a lot of people are notyet prepared for in that
division or in the UFC period.
So it's just another person whomakes everyone else in the

(09:24):
division level up.
So I think that is what we sawin his fight with Alex.
He really was on par for a bit,if you go back and rewatch it,
and then, just as the fight woreon, he was just kind of chipped
away at slowly.
But he has a soldier's heartand he and he has just that
soldier spirit where he keepsgoing and he continues to go to

(09:44):
these places like Thailand totrain and hone in on these
skills and improve.
So I, of course, admire that.
If you've listened to myprevious episodes, which I
highly encourage you to, youwill never be in the dark about
how I feel about a fighter andwhy I feel that way.
And there's a, there's a trendtoo.

(10:06):
You know, I really admirefighters who are at peace in
their journey in fighting andthey are fully enveloped in it,
and a lot of fighters are.
But that's because I feel likethere's a, there's like groups

(10:28):
that I, in my mind, I see a lotof the fighters in like groups.
There's like a group offighters who they just grew up
training, it's all they know.
They're surrounded, you know,by brothers, fathers, you know
just families who you know,especially in different
countries.
They live and breathe it from asmall age.

(10:48):
And then you have otherfighters who they, you know,
usually go into it, maybe intheir teens, and they use it as
a means to stay out of troubleand you know that's their main
reason, or that's their mainreason, to have gotten into it
and it blossomed from there.
And then there's these Yubafighters that are my favorite

(11:11):
and it's kind of like a subsetof the one I just mentioned.
You know, they may have gotteninto fighting, maybe a little
later in life or in their teens,and they did so because they
needed an escape or they neededan outlet.
And I can see fighters andrespect that, because that's

(11:31):
what got me into this wholerealm, this whole community, was
the need for refinement, theneed for discipline, and it
really is the absolute.
I mean, everyone has theiropinion, everyone has their
thing that they love it's okay,buddy, he's grumpy Everyone has

(11:54):
their thing that they love thatdrives them, that sculpts them,
and MMA or just martial artsperiod has an extreme power to
give someone who has so muchemotion, so much fire, just so
much energy that they don't knowwhat to do with, and just helps

(12:15):
us refine that and let our mindfinally like, forge a path.
And I see that in khalilroundtree and rosin on the unis
and valentina shevchenko and allof these israeli and all these
other fighters that I love andadmire.
They are fighters on adifferent level than competition

(12:38):
, the fighters who grew up doingit.
You know, they're fighters attheir core, like they are
martial artists at their core.
It's their identity, it's whothey are.
But then there's this justinnate nature in some of these
fighters that I see that pursueit because it guides them, it

(13:00):
leads them.
You know, if Khalil Ranchi hadnever stepped foot into an MMA
gym, would he have ever gone toThailand?
You know?
Would he have ever been inmovies?
You know, it's just.
There are these spiritual pathsthat MMA seems to be a common
environment or a common settingfor these people who have demons

(13:27):
, have angels in them that theyneed to sort, and I think it's a
great medium.
Obviously it's a bit of a onewhere we can let out our violent
energy but at the same time itdoesn't, in a way, to where it's
confined in, as I keep saying,discipline.

(13:49):
It breaks it down into a waythat we can compartmentalize
things and it spills out notonly on a competitive level but
a all over level, allencompassing level.
And I know that my perspectivesare not for everybody.

(14:10):
A lot of people enjoy, justlike, just sport talk and that's
cool, that's fantastic.
I don't blame you, it's not foreverybody, but I am who I am
and I see what I see and itshows in the fighters that I

(14:31):
root for and it shows howimportant the sport is, or just
how important doing what youlove is to everybody, because I
feel like doing what we love isan act of God.
Doing what we love is an act ofmercy on ourselves and an act

(14:57):
of love because it takes us somany places and I am obviously,
you know, just really engulfedin the MMA community.
So a lot of my examples arefrom here and it's amazing to
see that the journey looks sodifferent for everybody.

(15:19):
But the theme is the same you,you don't go anywhere being an
authentic.
You go places by grinding sodeep into what you love that it
is the only thing you see nowand I feel like with Sean

(15:42):
O'Malley.
He is on a similar path andthere are levels to this and
sometimes people can be like, ohyeah, I remember being that way
and I feel like sometimes onthese journeys a lot of people
can get really judgmental.
Uh, for example, his commentson uh, cody garbrandt talking

(16:05):
about like his face tattoos andhim being embarrassing and all
that really was was him stillallowing his ego to speak from
him being you know, just kind ofhurt that it's okay.
He hurt that he won or hurtthat he lost the fight and then
hurt that you know, cody saidsome you know rude things to him

(16:27):
and I feel like that is atelltale sign of where someone
is on their competitive journey,because the spiritual journey
applies to anyone who wants it.
But because this is an MMApodcast, it's going to be about

(16:49):
the MMA journey.
So with fighters who are inthat mind state, they really
have to let that go, becausesoaking in failure is the only
way to let it refine you.
If you're not soaking it in,you're repelling it and you take

(17:09):
nothing from it.
Feel like that's what KhalilRoundtree is going to show in
the fight this Saturday is thateach lesson is a stepping stone,
each lesson is a refinement andI'm excited to see it.
I know that I'm basically likepreaching at this point, but I

(17:31):
know that it resonates andfighting spirits are very, very
deep.
You've got ninjas, you know.
You've got samurais, you know,you codes, and once you

(18:00):
understand that, I feel like itwould be easier to predict a
fight outcome.
And I know like you can look atstats and all that stuff and
you should.
When you're making your betsand all of that, and just you
know, placing your money on theline, you should be looking at
previous fights and everything.
But to be looking at the mind isvery important also, and I

(18:26):
think that's because, of course,mental game is a known part of
the fight game.
But when you really break itdown to like mind, soul kind of
thing, you can see where afighter is going to spend their
energy.
And that's important because ifyou have these fighters, who

(18:47):
they live and breathe it, that'sall they know.
You know they were essentiallyborn engulfed in it.
Other fighters they come intoit, like I said, engulfed in it.
Other fighters they come intoit, like I said a little later,
and they have to teachthemselves how to fully envelop
themselves in mind, body, soulin this game.
So I feel like that's why it'seasier from these guys, from

(19:09):
like Dagestan, to just demolisheverybody, because that is the
only thing in their mind.
They have trained themselves solong to only focus on the kill
and overly physical.
You know all of that.
So when fighters fully hone thatmind, fully hone the ego, are

(19:45):
not going out there and you know, trying to be like oh, cody
Garbrandt's so embarrassing Lookat the tattoos on his face
Makes me think about tattoos onmy face.
There's no room for that.
That's why he lost, and so ifyou can pick up on those things

(20:06):
during fight week, it reallywill help make your
determinations for your bets,know.
So I hope that my littlespiritual breakdown helps you
win more money, because I it'shelping me.

(20:26):
So, uh, let it help you, um.
So yeah, that is all I have fortonight for you guys.
I hope you enjoyed my secondYouTube video.
I have a lot of fun makingthese.
It really is chill.
I just set up my phone, this,that and just talk to you guys

(20:47):
and it's very fun.
So don't forget to like andsubscribe and all of those
things and follow me onInstagram.
It's Shave my Name with threeE's at the end of name and yeah,
so thank you guys.
So much for joining me in theclinch.
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