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college and college to theircareer.
My name is Sonia Cacique.
I'm a former educator, certifiedschool counselor, career coach,
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Hi,
Fran.
I hope you're finding yourselfwell from wherever you're
listening to us from, I am veryexcited that you're here with us
today for this great interviewwith our guests, Quincy.
Let me give you some backstoryand again, share with you the
power of connections.
I met Quincy through a podcastconnection.
Quincy sister is one of thehosts of the ask your work wives
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podcast.
If you haven't checked out thatpodcast.
I highly recommended.
And that is how I heard abouthow Quincy leveraged so many
opportunities while in collegeto further define her career
path.
And I thought I need to haveQuincy on my podcast.
I love her story because like somany other college students may
be like, even yourself.
Quincy entered college as anundecided major.
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She shares her journey from highschool in California to
attending, Brigham younguniversity in Utah.
And guess what?
She is now living her best lifein a career with Pepsi co that
she loves and enjoys because ithas provided her the opportunity
to live the lifestyle that sheaspired to have with so much
more career potential.
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Despite facing challenges,Quincy remained resilient And I
hope this is inspirational foryou too.
She highlights the importance ofexploring interests in high
school, joining clubs in collegeand leveraging networks, such as
real-world connections tonavigate career opportunities
effectively.
She also emphasizes patientscontinuous self-assessment Andy
strategic use of connections tobuild a successful career path.
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She also discusses thesignificance of career
development classes and reallife internship experiences.
That expand your professionaljourney.
All right, my friend.
So without further ado, let'sjust get right into this great
interview.
Welcome, Quincy.
Welcome to the College andCareer Ready podcast.
Thank you for being here with ustoday.
I'm excited to be here.
I would love for you to tell ourguest audience, or our audience,
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uh, a little bit about yourself.
So give us a high level overviewabout who you are, where you are
in your career, and, just alittle bit of an overview.
Yeah, sounds good.
So I originally grew up inCalifornia and then attended
college in Utah at Brigham YoungUniversity and graduated in
2020.
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I studied business in collegeand then moved to New York city
after I graduated about fouryears ago.
And I currently work at PepsiCoon their e commerce sales team.
My, the beginning of the roadwas a little bit bumpy for me
since I graduated in COVID.
So had to go through a littlebit of a layoff and then ended
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up at another company before Ifinally found a really good
place for me at PepsiCo aboutthree years ago.
I love this.
I love that you are.
You know, feel like you're inyour career and you're stable,
but let's go back in timebecause sometimes students see
where, our professionals aretoday and they just think their
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life was just so perfect.
Right.
You graduated, in, in a veryhard time because it's right
before the pandemic.
but let's go a little bitfurther back in time in high
school.
What were you thinking as far ascollege, degree plan, what was
your idea then?
It's a great question.
In college, I definitely wasreally focused on getting good
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grades.
I took a lot of AP classes andwas pretty involved both in
clubs on campus as well assports.
I did cross country soccer andtrack and I also played piano on
the side as well.
So I felt like I was reallyinvolved, but I never felt like
I was someone that really hadThat's Clearly defined passions.
I felt like I could do prettygood at most of the things I
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wanted to, but there wasn'treally a kind of one subject in
particular that I felt like Ireally shined at.
And so, as I was thinking aboutcollege, It was a little bit
hard.
I knew that I could get, again,get good grades, do well, but I
just wasn't sure what I wantedto do.
But actually an interesting partof my high school experience was
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that I went to a magnet schoolthat had a focus on both the
arts as well as science andtechnology and communications,
and so I really tried to take alot of fun classes on the side.
I took classes in photographyand web design, virtual
business, graphic design, a lotof different things to try to
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explore my interests a littlebit more.
And that was a little bithelpful in kind of narrowing
things out.
I feel like my mom would alwayssay about me as a kid, I knew
what I didn't like, but I didn'treally know what I did like.
And so having some flexibilityin high school to explore
classes has definitely helped.
guide me in the right direction,but I still definitely, as I was
entering college, I hadn'tdeclared a major yet.
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I wasn't sure what I wanted todo, but took some time both in
high school and in college tofigure it out.
So how did you end up deciding,so you went to college, still
you apply, because mostly wetell students apply to the
colleges that are offering thedegree programs that you are
considering.
So how did you come acrossdeciding what college to go to?
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Yeah, so I applied to a fewdifferent colleges.
The school I ended up going toBrigham Young University in
Utah.
Was my parents alma mater.
So that was kind of what guidedthat decision.
It's also a pretty relativelyinexpensive school.
So it seemed like a safe placeto start.
And then as I started incollege.
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I explored a lot.
I took, I think my firstsemester, I took a career
development class that reallyhad a great repertoire of let's
look at all the majors.
Let's start talking to people.
Let's explore what's out thereand just learn about the
different things that areavailable.
And I also took some time to.
explore kind of introductorylevel classes that sounded
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interesting.
I knew I was a little bitinterested in business, so I
started and at BYU you have toapply to the business school,
which people typically do aftertwo years.
So I started taking some ofthose introductory classes in my
first few years of BYU as I wasexploring and that's what really
helped me, figure out what Iwanted to do.
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I decided on businesseventually.
at BYU, you have to apply at theend of your sophomore year
typically, but it's not just onebusiness program, there's many
different majors that you cando.
And so what I did is I joinedthe club that each major had.
I was in Marketing Club, HumanResources, Global Supply Chain.
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Strategic management, women inbusiness.
I joined a lot of differentclubs, so I could start talking
to people who were in thedifferent majors and figuring
out why did you choose thismajor?
What do the careers look like?
And a big part of it, I think,was trying to see where I felt
like I fit in.
Who are the people that I couldrelate to, even in just kind of
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the communications aspect ofwhat was appealing to me.
And so I really did that workfor my first two years.
And then eventually applied forthe business program.
I think you would apply for upto three programs.
And so I did that.
And the one that I got into waskind of the one I ended up
choosing, which was globalsupply chain management.
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Wow.
Okay.
So let me ask you this, becausemost, there are introverts and
extroverts.
Where do you feel you fall in?
Are you like an introvert,extrovert, or a little bit of
both?
I would say a little moreextroverted, not 100%, but more
leaning extrovert thanintrovert.
Okay, because, and I ask thisbecause what tips could you
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recommend students who might bea little bit more introverted?
I'm an extrovert.
For me, it's easy to put myselfin a room with people who look
completely different to me andstart a conversation.
But not a lot of students arelike that.
So do you have any tips on that?
Yeah, I think even just being inthe room, even if you're not the
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most Active participant I thinkis really helpful.
I know these clubs had a lot ofdifferent interesting
experiences.
For example, they would docareer panels with people who
had graduated from that programor just various things where we
could people would present abouttheir internships and there I do
think there was a really goodplace for if you're willing to
show up to the meeting, youdon't have to talk to everyone
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there.
You can still get a lot ofinformation just by taking it in
and being a little bit passive.
I don't I don't think is a badthing in this case.
Yeah, you know, that's a greatpoint.
Because again, for me being anextra extrovert, it'd be get in
the room, talk to people, butyou're saying just get in the
room and see how it feels likesee what they're talking about.
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Tell me more about the careerclass.
You recall any any specificsabout that particular class?
One of the main exercises that Iremember is near the beginning
of the class, we basically hadto print out these pieces of
paper that had every singlemajor that they offered at the
school.
And you kind of had to put itinto a few different buckets,
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things that really soundedinteresting.
Things that maybe you didn'tknow what they were yet, but you
wanted to learn, and things thatyou definitely didn't want to
learn about.
And that, I think, was a reallygood place to start.
There were definitely things Iwasn't that interested in.
Sciences weren't ever really mystrong point, so I kind of
immediately put those off to theside.
And then, for example, what Iended up going with, Global
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Supply Chain Management.
I don't think I'd ever heard ofthat before, but it was in the
bucket of this seems interestingand you, you knew what, kind of
college it was associated with.
So was it in the sciences?
Was it in humanities?
Was it in business?
And so they kind of use that asa way to start you down the
path.
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of learning about differentmajors and so we also had to go
in and write or not write, butresearch what these different
majors were.
And then there also was a bigfocus in that class on figuring
out what your strengths and whatyour interests are.
Are you, are you more kind ofmechanically minded?
Do you like to.
Write things out.
Do you like to listen?
What is your like, figuring outyour learning style as well as
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the things that excite you fromthe experiences of being on team
sports in high school?
That was something that I drewto.
I want to be able to work withpeople and collaborate and feel
like we can be successfultogether.
And so there was a lot of timespent reflecting on the
experiences we had had up tothat point.
And using that as a baseline forhow, what can we do with that in
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a career that maybe I wouldn'thave recognized on my own from
just taking a science class inan English class in high school,
but thinking about theunderlying skills that are
necessary to succeed in variouspaths.
Oh my gosh.
Okay.
I love that class alreadybecause that's actually what I
include in my career connectionscourses.
It's really identifying and yet,and I love how you're bringing
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it up, bringing it full circle.
Who you are as an individual andwhere do you fit in the
landscape of careers?
Now, the interesting part mightbe a little different for you,
even for years is It's, it's along time compared to what it is
today, where there are newcareers being created as we
speak.
And so it's important forstudents to dive into who they
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are as an individual, whatdrives you, and then look into
the careers of today, becausethey can be completely different
than even the ones fromyesterday.
Yeah.
I love that.
Was it a required course?
No, it wasn't a required class.
It was an elective that I justsomehow found and knew would be
really good for me.
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That's awesome.
That's, that's really awesome.
Now, once you started findingcareer paths in that class, did
you do anything else aside fromjust online research?
Is there anything else thatcould have got you a better
picture as far as, you know,what a career in that would be
like?
One thing I remember from theclass also is having to talk to
people that you knew Whose jobsyou thought sounded interesting.
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So I remember calling up myparents and just brainstorming
with them a little bit andsaying, okay, maybe we could
talk to Mike or maybe we couldtalk to Eric.
And so we had a few of theserequired just kind of
informational interviews to do.
as part of the class, maybe 3 to5 interviews, we had to ask a
certain set of questions, right?
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Do a little paper write up.
And that was also really helpfulto, because I think when on a
surface level, it's hard to tellalways.
Right if you want to dedicateyour life to this, but actually
getting to talk to people andreally.
experience that through theirlive personal experiences
through people who you know andtrust that's not, Hey, just
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reach out to a stranger onLinkedIn, but people in your
circle, that was really helpfulas well.
Yeah, absolutely.
so you decided on your careerjourney, right?
Tell us a little bit more aboutthe degree program.
I'm sure there's a lot ofstudents listening, thinking,
what is a career in that looklike?
Yeah, so I got into the programand started it my junior year
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and similar to that careerexploration class.
There was a required class youhad to take your 1st semester
that was called careerdevelopment.
And in that class, there werenot a ton of assignments, but
the assignments were veryspecific.
It was your resume, coverletter, elevator pitch, coming
up with a list of companies thatyou'd like to work for,
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interview prep, role plays,things like that, that were
really, really important.
Tangible things that you weregoing to need to do to get that
1st internship and get that 1stjob.
And that was really, reallyhelpful and doing that with all
of my peers to be able toimmediately as soon as we're in
there.
How do we present ourselves?
Good on paper.
Even before, you know, at thatpoint, I didn't have any supply
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chain experience.
I was interested in it, but, thelearning was going to come
later, but we needed to be ableto show up.
In in that interview in theroom, and that was really, I
think, a very pivotal experiencethat a lot of different majors
and schools, I think, don'tfocus on so much is how do we
actually get you to besuccessful after you leave here?
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And the business school at BYU.
Really prides itself on havingreally strong, rates of people
within 3 months, almost everysingle person will have an
internship or they will havethat full time job secured.
And so it was really successfulin being able to help students
succeed.
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And so that that class, I think,was 1 of the 1st things and then
getting into the, the meat ofthe major.
I think there was a few mainthings that I learned in this
major global supply chainmanagement as a major.
I think is a really good crosssection in between being pretty
data heavy and spending a lot oftime in Excel with numbers as
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well as being really crossfunctional.
So we would have a lot ofprojects.
Where we were in teams and we'dhave different positions that
we'd have to work together tosolve these business problems.
And so that was what I reallyliked is there was numbers.
And there was that analyticalside, which I feel like I relate
to as well as on the other side,communication and people skills
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and PowerPoint presentations.
And we had a really good balanceof both of those things
immediately and in the major.
And one of the things I reallyenjoyed when I first started
getting into the major was.
The whole entire first semester,you were in all of your classes
with the same 40 students andwithin those 40 students, you
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had a group of 5 people and allof your assignments.
Almost all your assignments weredone with these five people.
And so you really had to learnhow to work in a team.
These people are going to havedifferent strengths.
Some people are going to be morefunctional.
Some aren't.
Some are going to just havedifferent things.
And we had to learn through thatentire semester, how do we work
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together on writing papers, ongiving presentations, on
analyzing data.
On learning different thingsthroughout all of all four or
five classes that we hadtogether.
And so that was, I think, reallypivotal as well.
Just the way that the programwas set up to make it really
feel like this is the team youwork on.
This is your job.
We had these big overarchingprojects.
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Sometimes we had projects thatwere across multiple classes and
the professors work together tocoordinate really large scale.
It felt like an internshipalmost with here's your team.
Here's your project.
It's going to be a month or twobefore we get to the end of
this, but you're going to learna lot along the way.
I love what you're sharing withour audience because something
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that a lot of students andparents overlook is all of the
specifics about the college.
They look at the name of thecollege.
And it's like, that's where Iwant to go.
That is because it is a top,name for this degree program,
but they forget to ask or findout.
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You can mention a couple ofthings is, placement rate, which
is huge.
I think throughout oureducation, K through 12, and
even in college.
We're so involved in academic,academic, academic, but what are
we getting this academic forultimately to find a career and
find a job after college, right?
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That's, that's the goal of allof these years.
And we're so focused onacademic.
So I like that.
You, you pointed that out forall our audience to, to look
into that, ask the college, likehow many students for, right?
And not even as a college as awhole, but for that degree
program, how many students getplaced?
What jobs are they in right now?
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And then you also mentionedabout the team environment,
right?
For this specific degreeprogram.
And I think it's importantbecause there are some people
that would not be me that.
prefers working alone bythemselves.
They prefer working, you know,isolated.
There are others that loveteamwork.
And so this is important forthem to also look into the
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college.
Is it, or the degree program, isit mainly a teamwork?
Is it solo?
Is it more research?
And you brought a lot of factorsinto, what this degree program
entails.
So I appreciate you bringingthat.
And then the last thing I wantedto share.
What's the cohort model again?
This is a very unique way oflearning that can benefit
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certain students.
I mean, kudos to you and BYU.
You're making it stand outreally cool because I it's
everything I talk about.
It's bringing the resources tothe students.
So now let's transition a littlebit.
Post college graduation.
So what was it for you, aftergraduating, finding a job?
And I know you went throughsome, roadblocks.
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So tell us about that.
Yeah, so I had my, theinternship I did during college
was at Walmart headquarters inArkansas and that was a really
amazing experience being at thelargest retailer in the world
and I got that internshipthrough on campus recruiting, so
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BYU also has a really bigprogram for companies that will
come usually in the fall of thatjunior year and come to recruit
and I honestly credit gettingthat.
1st, roll on on my internship,just to.
Being able to relate to therecruiters that came, there was
1 in particular who we had a lotin common.
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And so throughout the week, asthey were putting on these
different activities.
They did service projects and,you know, booths in the, in the
business building of just beingable to, to talk and chat and
just like really works to, tobuild that relationship.
So I do think in that case, itdoes help to be an extrovert and
just be willing to chat andsmile.
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And, but so I made thatconnection that helped me to get
the interview.
And then obviously the, thedegree and the program had
helped me do well and show up inthat interview.
So I interned in Arkansas.
And while I was in Arkansas iswhen I started to really learn
that there are a lot ofdifferent factors to consider
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when choosing a career.
Part of it is the company andthe industry.
Part of it is the specific roleyou're in.
Part of it is the work lifebalance and the lifestyle that
you're able to have, whetherthat be from the hours you have
to work or the time you have totravel or the money you make.
Or in my case, I felt a littlebit particular about where I was
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going to live.
Growing up in San Diego, Iwasn't used to being in kind of
a small town like, likeBentonville, Arkansas is.
And so as I was there, Irealized that I wasn't willing
to move to Arkansas long term.
And I was pretty open about thatwith, My intern manager, and I
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knew that Walmart had an officein New Jersey, and I had sort of
this inkling that I wanted tomove to New York after I
graduated.
And so I started talking topeople within Walmart about if
there was a way for me totransfer to the New Jersey
office.
And I got a little bit ofhesitation, but also a lot of
support in being able to beconnected to people who worked
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in that office.
How to make that transition.
And this is when I reallystarted using the BYU network as
well.
I mentioned to one of my fellowinterns who also came from BYU
that I was thinking about NewYork and, and this Walmart e
commerce office in New Jersey.
And she said, Oh, I grew up withsomeone who also studied supply
chain at BYU.
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Who's been there now for acouple of years, so I connected
with him and he ended up beingthe person who really was
pivotal in helping me actuallylanding a full time offer after
I graduated at the Walmart ecommerce office.
So that was really awesome, so Igot the job and started it in
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the summer of 2020, right afterI graduated.
World was shut down a littlebit, so I started remotely.
I was still living in Utah.
At the time and at that time,unrelated to COVID, they had a
lot of restructuring,reorganizing, and they decided
that they wanted to haveeveryone in Arkansas and they
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didn't want to have the ecommerce team separated out.
And so they laid off almosteveryone in that office and told
everyone to reapply for a job inArkansas, which I was not
interested in.
So that was a bummer.
But I kind of stuck to myinstincts.
I didn't reapply for a job and Ijust gave myself a little bit of
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time to find another way to getto New York.
So I continued talking topeople, networking, using my BYU
Connections, and Someone I hadmet through that first, mentor
who worked at the Walmart ecommerce office, he introduced
me to someone else who thenended up referring me to a job
that she had been reached out toabout, but she had already
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gotten another job.
So she suggested me instead.
And that ended up being the nextjob that I got, which was at a
fashion company here in thecity.
And so I finally got to move toNew York city.
I started this fashion job andit was working at a company that
worked on fashion, the, theaccount I was on was
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specifically on Walmart fashion.
And so we would sell women'sclothing to Walmart.
And so even though I'd onlyworked briefly at Walmart, that
experience Helped me get my nextjob as well as networking into
the job.
And so I worked there for abouta year and it wasn't, I think a
perfect fit for me.
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It was completely in person,which I didn't really want.
All my friends at the time were.
A little more remote and fashionwasn't necessarily a passion of
mine.
And so I thought there might bea better industry for me to go
in.
And so then I, but I stillwanted to stay in New York.
So I continued networking andanother BYU connection that I'd
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met here in the city, worked atPepsiCo and he was the one who
referred me into a job, atPepsiCo where I'm still working.
I've since been promoted fromthat job, but plan to stay at
PepsiCo.
Definitely for, a lot longer.
I love that.
It's it's New York City based.
I love the industry that it'sin.
I'm a big foodie.
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And so being in the food andbeverage industry has been
really fun for me.
I work with a really great teamwith my coworkers and managers.
I've had a really greatexperience and I feel like
there's a really strong.
career trajectory of things thatI can do within this company and
just great overall work lifebalance and pay.
So I found a place that I'mhappy and looking forward to
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staying.
I love that.
I love that for you now.
And I also like that you didn'tsay This career path is not for
me, right?
Because that's what most peoplethink.
They think this career path, I'min the wrong career path, not
realizing that it might justneed a little tweaking.
You mentioned very clearly thatyou were not interested in a
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fashion industry.
There are people who would dieto be in the fashion industry
and that's okay.
But you, you're more of afoodie.
So you're like, this is like aperfect fit for me.
And I love that.
And, and it seems like it aswell.
So I like that you share thatbecause again, it might just be,
you're in the wrong job, notnecessarily in the wrong field.
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And people will pivot completelytheir careers sometimes not
realizing that there's might besomething just on the other
side.
during any time where you laidoff?
Yes, uh, when I was at theWalmart e commerce office, I
only worked there for about amonth before being laid off.
Oh, man, can you give us alittle bit of just inside?
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just encouragement because wehave students who might
currently have just graduatedand can't find, that jobs, any
words of encouragement and howto deal with that timeframe?
Yeah, I think I really just hadto focus on the fact that it
wasn't personal.
My manager got laid off.
My manager's manager got laidoff.
I think his manager got laidoff.
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It just was the entireorganization that I was on.
Basically got laid off.
And so I had to not take itpersonally.
And luckily Walmart treated uspretty well financially, where I
was able to take a little bit oftime to figure out what the next
step was, but it definitelystuck with me a little bit.
As I went into my next job, whenI had been a month in the job, I
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was really paranoid that thesame thing was going to happen
again and that I was going toget laid off.
And I talked to my manager aboutit.
And just knowing that I was alittle bit nervous and she said,
you know, you're good.
You don't have anything to worryabout.
We're not doing layoffs.
You're fine.
You're doing great.
And so it is hard and it'sdiscouraging.
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And especially during kind ofthat 2020 COVID It was really
hard to tell what was going tobe happening.
There was so much change withthe whole virtual move, but I
just tried to keep my head upand do the same things I had
done before to get that job.
Let's talk to who I know.
Someone will be able to help meget my foot in the door
somewhere.
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Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I think a lot of students needto hear that because, you know,
some graduate thinking that adegree will give them the job
opportunity and that's not thecase.
And this is why I was veryexcited to bring you on so you
can share the importance ofconnections and using,
maximizing your time at thecollege, because that's where
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you're going to get your skills,your soft skills, and build
your, your, um, Your resume asyou're there.
So I really appreciate that.
Well, Quincy, I appreciateeverything you have shared.
any closing remarks that youhave or where can people connect
with you if they want to,connect with you any further?
Yeah, I, I think the partingwords are, I think just being
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able to be patient with yourselfand not think that you from day
one of being in college, youhave to have planned out 20 and
30 years down the road, butrather being able to just.
Take it kind of day by day, yearby year and take the time to
really just learn about yourselfand use that information to
continually pivot, I thinkpatience, as well as just being
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proactive, making sure thatyou're always aware of how you
feel about your current whereyou're currently at.
And be able, being able toconstantly gather in information
to using the people around youand building those relationships
that can continue to help youthroughout your career.
All my jobs have come directlyfrom people that I've networked
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with.
It's so important to just beable to take that little leap of
faith and be able to just talkto people around you and be able
to learn from them.
I love that.
I love that.
And where can, our audienceconnect with you?
I'm on LinkedIn.
That would be the best way, toreach out to me.
Okay.
I love it.
Thank you so much, Quincy, forbeing here on the College of
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Career Ready podcast.
Thanks so much.
Thank you for listening in.
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I'm so thankful for each andevery one of you.
And as always stay well, bepresent and enjoy the journey.
I'll talk to you next week.
Adios.