January 1, 2024 • 41 mins
Ever wondered if the hype behind a new fragrance is just a lot of hot air? Well, we've sniffed out the truth for you! Join us, Ryan and Myke, along with Steve from Everyman Fragrance, as we dissect the much-talked-about Gravite by Particle, sharing both the good and the ugly in a no-holds-barred review. We'll even give you the lowdown on our past escapades with Pineward fragrances—spoiler alert: White Fur may just steal your heart. And for our loyal Patreon folks, we've got something special brewing that you helped pick out—let's just say Beaver by Zoologist is in the mix!
Get ready for a rollercoaster of aromas as we compare Gravite to titans like Sauvage and debate whether it's the blue shower gel of the fragrance world. We'll dissect the DNA of this scent, weighing in on its notes—does it have the sophistication of YSL's L'Homme Ultime or the playfulness of Lacoste Red? Our fragrance banter doesn't stop there; we're dishing out our verdicts on whether it's worth your hard-earned cash and if it can truly be the jack-of-all-trades signature scent for every occasion.
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Ryan (00:03):
Hello everybody, welcome to the Cologne Podcast.
Myke (00:06):
I'm Mike and I'm Ryan.
We're two best friends.
We're going on a fragrancejourney, smelling fragrances and
giving you uneducated opinions,and today we've got a very
special fragrance, one that'shad a hype machine so big.
Ryan (00:19):
Well, I mean pretty big, I don't know how big, but pretty
big right, larger than average.
Yeah, sized hype machine Socialmedia campaign that'll make you
and you know what we're goingto see if it's worth it.
Myke (00:35):
This fragrance I had seen the adverts, but then our friend
Steve from Everyman Fragranceyou may have known and loved him
from the Scent Geeks podcast hemessaged me because we're very
best friends and he said Ibought into the hype.
I bought a bottle and I sentback a screenshot and said I
bought it too.
Let's do an episode.
Ryan (00:55):
So yeah, he's here, we're about to do it, but first, oh,
did we even say the?
Myke (00:59):
fragrance, yet it's gravitate by particle and, as
usual, we have a Fragranticareview, but we thought we'd do
you one better.
We've got a positive and anegative.
We're going to hit you with thepositive first, let you know
everything you could come toexpect from this fragrance, and
then we've got Fragrantica fullof trolls ready to let you down.
(01:22):
Okay, first we're going tostart with the positive, and
this is from Timmy over onInstagram.
Ryan (01:29):
I'm going to do a smell test.
Let's see what's better theclone I've been using for three
years that was gifted to me bymy mother-in-law.
Or gravitate, here we go.
Mmm, it's masculine but chill.
Steve (01:39):
What is that?
Um, gravitate, it's that videoI'm doing for particle.
Ryan (01:43):
Can you take a break for a minute?
Hold on, I'll be done in just alittle bit.
Steve (01:49):
Well, it lasts 12 hours.
Ryan (01:57):
So, what the fuck?
Yeah, I'm done now I thinkwe're taking a shirt off.
Steve (02:05):
Oh my God, you guys weren't a life-beater.
Myke (02:07):
Come on, oh my Lord, okay, yeah.
So the premise of that is hesprayed it on, oh, I'm doing
this.
And then his wife in thebackground says uh, hey, timmy,
yeah, timmy, could you put onthat wife beater and come in
here and give me five minutes ofpleasure.
Ryan (02:24):
I don't need the last 12 hours, stop lying.
Oh my God, the last 12?
Myke (02:27):
minutes Let me just get in here Just five, five minutes,
all right.
And then we have, uh, we haveour review over on Fragrantica
from O'Yilla who just says scrap.
Ryan (02:44):
I feel like that's going to be me today, buddy.
Yeah, oh my.
Myke (02:48):
God.
Well, we're going to find out.
There's been a lot of money putbehind this to make sure that
we all know about it, so it mustbe good and I can't wait to
smell it with Steve and my bestfriend Ryan.
But first we got to do that onenight stand review, going back
in time to smell five differentpine word fragrances.
Ryan (03:09):
Five nights of pine word Hit the music Todd yeah.
One night stand review.
Well, mike, after spending thenight, five nights, with Pine
word, what did you think weresome of the lows and highs when
(03:31):
the what's the one that youliked and maybe the worst one,
the worst?
Myke (03:36):
one Merckwood for me.
I think so.
I think I got to go withMerckwood, but the best and
quite possibly one of the betterfragrances we've smelled in
2023.
Yeah, white fur.
Ryan (03:48):
It was shockingly good, shockingly good.
I wonder why that one was likeso, like a wearable fragrance?
Yeah, that would that.
We both.
I think we both said it's ahard sample to possibly buy,
right, depending on what youlike If the price was there it
would absolutely be a buy.
Myke (04:05):
Still about A little too much $50 more than I could spend
, you know, with a clearconscience on it.
But it was badass, it was superbadass.
Ryan (04:17):
The gingerbread one was nice too.
It was more of a I want to sayGourmand, I think more scent
memory type of fragrance, but itwas good.
And the tree stuff, whichthat's what I was trying to find
was something that we know, butsome of it was a little too
real and too earthy dirt andgrimy Right.
Myke (04:36):
So people out there interested in that.
I wouldn't be shocked if themajority of these might make
their way to being in a diffuseror some sort of you know thing
like that, as opposed to just afragrance.
Ryan (04:48):
Actually, let me read something from our Patreon.
If you're not a subscriber,make sure to head over to
patreoncom.
Slash cologne podcast.
We have giveaways.
We have extra episodes.
Yeah, we have early access.
We have one on one time with meand Mike.
We have Lives coming up yeah,we have everything.
Myke (05:07):
Oh, 2024 is going to be fucking wild over there.
It's going to be wild onPatreon.
Ryan (05:12):
And it's been while we got some great friends of the
podcast over there and one thatactually contributes quite a bit
.
He's sent stuff, he's been apatron, he's an avid listener.
But I want to read this commentbecause it was actually.
We did a review of Beaver byzoologist over there.
That's right.
We have a listener that goes bynot okay music and we did this
review of Beaver and it was areally rough fragrance.
(05:34):
Once a week we usually let thepatrons pick between two things
get an episode created andthey've been doing great,
they've picked some greatfragrances and we've had some
good times, but they ended uppicking Beaver and it was whoa,
it was rough.
Myke (05:46):
It wasn't as rough as some of the other zoologist
fragrances that are out thereand available, but it still
sings the same note, which iskeep going.
Ryan (05:55):
So he was replying to the episode and hearing our disgust
for it.
He said lol, I don't know.
I think maybe zoologist got itright.
When I think of the actualanimal, I think of stink glands.
Maybe this scent is some kindof olfactory journey into datasm
.
Is that the word Datasm.
Myke (06:15):
I don't know how to pronounce it, but basically it's
like emphasizing the offness ofsomething, and so I think he
was implying that maybe theyintentionally made it not as
wearable as it should have been.
Ryan (06:28):
Yeah, it's more of an art piece, right yeah, conceptual in
nature.
I think a lot of thosefragrances from Pine Word I feel
like kind of leaned to that.
Myke (06:37):
Yeah, it's the same thing as we saw with Sombur, which was
like nobody would ever wearthis.
This is disgusting and they'relike we did it.
We did it, boys.
Ryan (06:48):
We made it.
Your guys are going to fuckingpuke when you smell it, exactly.
Yeah, apparently I feel like in, you know, on Pine Word's
website, the gentleman that runshis name is Nick.
I believe he even kind of says,like he's not looking for
people to really talk about orcare, it's just something that
he's kind of passionate about.
He's not looking for, you know,shilling it and shit like that.
Myke (07:10):
So he's just having fun with it.
The guy really appreciates pinetrees.
Ryan (07:15):
Apparently, I will say you seriously, guys.
To get back to what this onenight stand review was kind of
really about, I will say thewhite fur is seriously good, got
to sample it.
Myke (07:26):
You really got to sample it.
If you are interested in citrus, you're interested in
coniferous plants out there.
This would be a nice combobecause it had that realistic
sort of zest off of an orangetype smell.
It had that realistic pine treetype smell and they worked so
well together Very well that Iwas like, ooh, I want to wear
(07:49):
this, but it's too expensive andit's also such a thick,
concentrated fragrance as far asoils are concerned, you can't
even spray it on light clothes.
It'll stain the hell out of it.
Yeah, don't even try it, but itis beautiful, I agree.
Ryan (08:02):
And with that that's our one night stain review of Pine
words, kind of a on the houseepisode Right.
And now we have Steve.
He's been staring through thecamera at us over here waiting
for us to shut up and do thisthing.
Let's smell, gravitate byparticle and also say hi to our
friend from overseas, steve,hello, how are you doing guys?
(08:25):
It's good to be here.
I know you've been reallyexcited for us to smell this and
this has been going on forabout a month or two now.
You've been just biting at thebit for us to smell this thing.
Steve (08:35):
Yes, you in particular.
I really want to get your takeon this.
Obviously, this fragrance ishyped to hell.
Yes, mainly because they'vejust paid a load of influencers
to shill it on Instagram andwhatnot.
So I just kept getting spams onthis fragrance.
So in the end I annoyingly, Ididn't want to buy it because of
(08:56):
the marketing, and it was soannoying, but I was also so
curious to smell it that I didbuy it, so I paid my own money.
I definitely did not get a freebottle on this shit.
So, yeah, and then I told Mikeabout it and he was like we're
going to get on it too.
So this is it?
Myke (09:12):
I'm excited you have smelled this.
We haven't, but we said nospoilers.
We're not going to go see yourreview, so this will be a hot,
fresh take for us.
On the skin, on the testerstrip, you go ahead and run the
box.
Steve (09:27):
I mean, can we just talk about the packaging?
Why are you undoing that?
Ryan (09:29):
Hey, good, because I actually did.
I was soon before you got hereand we were setting up
everything.
He put this down and I was likeI hate the packaging already.
I don't like it.
It's fucking awful, isn't it?
It's fucking terrible.
It like it's already likepredetermining like this may be
bad.
Myke (09:45):
What's bad about it?
Like listeners.
Ryan (09:47):
I guess, because what's just like two of the thinnest
piece of whatever cardboard thisis and it slides up and down to
reveal it.
Cool, but it's like so cheapand how that it's done.
I don't know if it looks.
Steve (10:00):
it's like a kid's toy, you know, like you've got some
sort of car or something andit's like in a box with plastic
around it and you slide it onand put it apart.
It's that sort of cheap toypackaging.
That's what it feels like to me.
Myke (10:13):
I'll tell you what it really is and it's kind of a bit
of an effort to get it out.
Ryan (10:16):
Yeah, to get that out, the bottle looks, but the bottle.
Steve (10:20):
I think the bottle is okay.
I like the bottle.
Ryan (10:23):
Yeah, I'm not judging bottles.
Let's see you ready.
Steve (10:25):
I'm ready, let's do it.
It's a stiff cap, really.
It's really stiff cap, god damnit.
Myke (10:32):
There you go, fucking sword in the stone.
You need to need to hit Arm Daya little bit more, ryan.
Ryan (10:38):
Jesus, and it's like the cheapest cap.
It's like I don't man, thecap's got some weight to it
though, though oh, I thought itwas metal.
I did too.
It feels maybe hard to wear.
Myke (10:49):
Maybe ours is.
I think it is metal, I thinkit's just a thinner metal and
it's not a magnet.
Steve (10:53):
It's not just for the listeners, it's not a magnetic
cap, but it is very stiff, it'svery solid.
You can lift it up by that capeasily.
Ryan (10:59):
Here we go guys.
Steve (11:02):
I'm excited.
Myke (11:04):
Good God, you wearing this shit, whoo.
Steve (11:10):
Right, right, let's also, before you kind of get into it,
let's try and come in at it ina non-judgey place.
Let's be open-minded.
Absolutely let's come in.
Let's forget the marketing,let's forget the packaging.
Let's imagine you're in afragrance store.
Someone's just sprayed a stripand said, oh, what do you think
to this, sir?
Let's just try and clear thepre-judgment sort of from the
head and just smell it as afragrance.
Myke (11:31):
When Ryan was spraying it, initially I thought sauvage in
the air.
Steve (11:34):
Really, I don't get that.
Ryan (11:37):
You're not going to believe me there, steve, but I'm
with you.
But I'll say this I smell it onthe card.
I do get sauvage, but like avery dainty sauvage just barely
there.
Myke (11:47):
I don't really get it, other than that initial spray.
I was like is this kind ofsauvage On the skin?
Is it not just like a showerjelly, sort of fresh?
Yes, yeah.
Steve (11:58):
I get that.
It's like sauvage in the sensethat it's a blue shower gel
fragrance, but like a side byside.
I don't think it smells likesauvage.
Tony from Fragdictid he thoughtit was very much like sauvage,
but I just don't get that.
Ryan (12:13):
I get it on the card.
On my skin it's just very.
When I say alcoholic, I don'tmean like a drink, I mean like
literally rubbing alcohol.
It's very kind of strong.
So I kind of oh, I really smell.
Myke (12:24):
I was kind of losing it on the card.
Honestly, I couldn't reallysmell it.
I can smell it more on my skin.
I just did a couple more sprays.
Ryan (12:30):
I mean, fuck, it's not.
Look, if we compared this toblue Atlantis, one that we
smelled that time, that was agem.
I feel like this pulls thepants down on that one, but it's
like I don't know, you know thething that sold me on, it was
the advert the guy had.
Myke (12:50):
You seen that?
Steve (12:50):
one, steve.
Yeah, I've seen.
And the trouble is all theadverts they all use the same
script.
So it would be a differentchiseled guy.
Yeah, talking about you know,oh, it smells this.
It's very manly, it's verywoody, my wife loves it.
In the last 12 hours they saythe exact same shit in every
advert.
Yeah, just because they're well, we say advert, it's not, you
(13:12):
know, it's a, it's a fray, aninfluencer, shill, isn't it
Right?
But so it's annoying.
But I mean, I think it smellsnice.
I personally, I don't think youcan say it's a bad fragrance.
Ryan (13:23):
I will agree.
I will agree.
I don't think it's a badfragrance, but it is very skin
scent.
Myke (13:29):
So far, because it's so generic smelling.
It also kind of makes it smellkind of cheap.
Oh, it absolutely smells cheap,Not like trashy cheap, just
like I probably wouldn't spendwhat we spent on it.
Well, you spent, I didn't spendit, Would you spend?
No, I took it out of the jointaccount.
Ryan (13:44):
Fuck you.
You wasted money on this shit.
God damn, oh fuck.
Steve (13:53):
It is a 100 mil bottle.
See, I think it smells like twodifferent fragrances.
So two fragrances I referencedin my video, and one of them is
in particular, is particularlywell respected.
So I don't know if you've eversmelled YSL, lom Ultime I have
not.
No See, it smells similar tothat.
That one it's definitely not aclone.
It does smell.
It's not like a side by sidedirect copy of it, but it's got
(14:17):
a lot of similarities to it.
It shares a lot of notes.
That has rosen it.
This one absolutely doesn't, butit's got a lot of similar notes
and it does remind me of that.
Yeah, along with there'sBurberry Brit Rhythm or Brit
Rhythm Intense.
It smells a little bit of thatbecause that's got like a spicy
vibe, so that's kind of powderyspicy and it's got that as this
starts drying down it gets alittle bit sort of more sort of
(14:39):
peppery spicy, which kind ofreminds me of that.
So those are the two fragrances.
But LOM Ultime is really nice.
It's quite I think it might bediscontinued, but it's quite
highly regarded and that itsmells a lot too dissimilar to
that.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan (14:51):
It's not bad, but for me, like my personal opinion, like
this is To me, this smells likegravitate, maybe found some
thrown out Savage bottles behindUlta or something which is like
a store around here.
They sell cosmetics andfragrances and I feel like they
just like mixed it like one partof this and four parts water.
Myke (15:12):
So it smells like a watered down Savage, exactly.
Yeah, I don't know that.
It smells like Savage.
I mean Savage kills thisfragrance.
Oh, a hundred percent.
But yeah, to me it smells kindof young, like I feel like if
you got this for a teenagerthey'd be like hell.
Yeah, I think they did a goodjob of making a designer
(15:32):
smelling fragrance.
But I mean you're getting closeto a hundred bucks for a
hundred mil.
I think, steve, you used adiscount code.
You told me about it.
I use the discount codes.
We've got it under 70 bucks,but yeah, I think mine was.
Steve (15:46):
I can't remember.
Yeah, I think I paid six, justunder 70 pounds.
I could have a look in a minutefor a hundred mil.
So it's like 67 quid.
I'll have a look.
Skin's terrible, I can't.
Ryan (15:57):
But it's not.
It's not the worst, it's justnot that great.
The card stock is the win forme.
Myke (16:01):
I think a high schooler could wear this, or a guy who
just doesn't care aboutfragrances would probably see
the advert that, like the womanin the background, is saying
like as soon as he sprays it oh,you know, get in here so I can
have a hot, passionate sex withyou.
You know, like if I was, youknow, a guy that wasn't in the
fragrances and needed a littlehelp, you know, with the
(16:22):
opposite sex, and I saw thatadvert and bought this, it'd be
like smells nice.
Steve (16:31):
I think it's.
It smells perfectly fine.
I think it's a good office andit's very inoffensive.
I think nobody's going toreally dislike it yeah cause you
can't smell it If you want that, that daily driver office, then
I think it's fine.
I think it, I think the openingis very pleasant.
I like this.
I agree Not.
We've not talked about thenotes.
Actually, that's normally myjob when I guest on here.
Myke (16:53):
Yeah, yeah.
You need to show and run howeasy it is to pull this after I
jarred it loose.
Ryan (17:00):
Okay.
Steve (17:01):
Hey, you loosened it.
Yeah.
So at the top there's bergamot,grapefruit, pepper and rosemary
.
See, I don't get too muchpepper in the top, I get it a
little bit further down and thenthere's paprius, cashmere wood,
apple and nutmeg.
In the mid and in the basethere's musk, cedar, vetifier
and it lists ambergris, but weknow that's unbroxied and that's
not going to be actualambergris.
(17:22):
So, interestingly, it doesshare a lot of similar notes to
a long old team.
It shares, like the cashmerewood, the cedar.
I'm just going to see if I canfind the notes for it.
Myke (17:33):
I kind of get that apple.
It says she has a lot ofsimilar notes.
Ryan (17:35):
What's that one fragrance?
I got you to smell at Drug andPorium the red bottle that I
said, hey, me and Todd used towear that.
They kind of smell similar tothat too.
Oh, lacoste red.
It does smell like lacoste reda little bit.
Myke (17:47):
I like that.
There is that sweet fruitinessthat when you said apple, I was
like, oh, I can kind of smellapple in there, which does make
me think of a YSL fragrance forsure.
Steve (17:55):
Yeah, well, it's interesting.
So if we look at like again,just compare the notes just to
kind of back my statement up.
So it's got the same notes.
It's got grapefruit, it's gotapple, it's got a cedar, it's
got vetiver, it's got cashmere.
We had all of those exact samenotes are in the long old team
as well.
So you can start seeing why itmakes sense that I said.
(18:17):
It sort of reminds me of it, tobe honest.
But long old teams got Rose,draenium, so it's got a few
others that kind of go in aslightly different direction.
Myke (18:25):
But do you think they were targeting that?
You think whoever did this waslike hey, here's an idea to kind
of I don't know.
Steve (18:33):
I mean it's funny because as far as I know, I'm the only
person that's referenced thatlong old team fragrance.
Myke (18:40):
Well, I'm more saying like whoever started this company
was like obviously we can't goafter a Ventus Sauvage.
Those are like two out in theopen.
Maybe we'll pick this one thatpeople can't even say or
pronounce and it could be.
Steve (18:55):
I think it's certainly the exact same genre as long old
team.
It's very clean, fresh.
This could be a signature scent, like you say.
It wouldn't be for a frag headbecause it's not exciting enough
, but you could easily wear thisevery day.
You could wear this in theoffice at a party in the evening
.
Yeah, there's, there's not asituation you couldn't wear this
fragrance Right, very likeunless you were going to a
fragrance meetup.
(19:16):
It's a smell interesting.
But other than that it'sabsolutely a daily driver for
the muggle or the average personyou know to the gym after the
shower something.
Ryan (19:26):
Yeah, look, I'm going to try to be fair with this.
I really do believe this is,like night and day, better than
the blue Atlantis thing wesmelled a few months back.
Steve (19:35):
So it doesn't smell bad.
Which do you prefer, Mike?
I have interest.
I mean, it's probably testingyour memory, sort of to be fair.
Myke (19:40):
But if you like the blue Atlantis over this dude, I will
say the blue Atlantis did take ashot at a more interesting that
black tea sort of thing.
It was fresh and it was likealmost like and now that I'm
thinking about it it makes sensethe name because it smelled
very wet and like very, you know, hydrated.
(20:01):
Hmm, this is like that drier,cleaner.
I think that this, overall, isa better wear.
I don't hate the blue Atlantisone like you did, ryan.
You were just so upset.
I think if you had saw a bunchof people in the fragrance
community pushing this one,you'd be losing your shit right
now on it.
Ryan (20:19):
Well, I mean I hadn't had a chance to look.
Have you seen Steve?
Have?
I mean you don't have to namenames, but have people in our
community?
Have they been pushing this andlike it's?
You know an eventus, you knowreplacement or something?
Steve (20:32):
No, so I've not seen the proper fragrance reviewers
pushing this like they did forthat one, like they've been paid
.
I'd seen a lot of more generalInstagram influencers pushing
this.
I was trying to find somegenuine reviews of this
fragrance and you can sort oftell the ones that are genuine,
if you see what I mean, becausethey don't start saying, oh, it
lasts 12 hours, it does.
They don't use that same script.
(20:53):
So there's one guy that I thinkwas a genuine review and he was
kind of like what he was saying.
He was he sort of sprayed itand said it actually smells
quite nice.
He did sort of say similar sortof things that you know, it's
not the most exciting, you knowdifferent.
It's obviously very safefragrance, but it's.
It smells very pleasant and Ithink that's probably as strong
(21:13):
as you're going to get with this.
There's definitely going to besome people that love this
fragrance, I think.
Ryan (21:17):
I agree, I do, I agree.
I think there will be somepeople that like it.
I don't hate this.
It's nice on the card.
It really is nice on the card.
Steve (21:24):
Up for them.
I just looked how much I paidfor it and I paid about 60
pounds total, including delivery, because I got a discount code.
I saved myself 15 pounds.
I don't know what that createsdoing dollars, but I would say
for me here, 60 pounds for ahundred mil.
I think I said in my video.
I said that for this fragranceI'm kind of okay with, but I
(21:45):
wouldn't want to pay more thanthat.
Myke (21:46):
A hundred yeah.
Steve (21:47):
Yeah, I think that's the limit for me.
I think I wouldn't want to paymore than 60 pounds for this
fragrance a hundred mil, but Ithink that that's what price for
a hundred mil is.
Okay, I can confirm.
Well, for my test knitdefinitely, categorically
doesn't last 12 hours.
That's bullshit.
Ryan (22:03):
Yeah, I could tell you that real quickly.
Steve (22:05):
Yeah, which the thing is.
I said in my YouTube video thatwhat really annoys me is the
performance on.
This isn't actually bad, sothey don't need to sprout this.
12 hours bollocks, right, itdefinitely rains in and it's
quite close, wearing after acouple of hours, but it lasts
six, seven hours at a push ifyou kind of go heavy and stuff.
So which is fine.
Myke (22:25):
That's like a working day.
Steve (22:26):
Yeah yeah, that's plenty.
So they didn't need to bullshitand go like last 12 hours.
If they just said it lasts aworking day, that would have
been sufficient and not bullshit.
You know, that's what reallywell me up.
I got quite angry by video.
I was like it's just needlessbullshit.
Myke (22:43):
Here's a question I have about that, because I'm
rewinding my mind to before Ireally got into fragrances.
Yeah, I can't once ever thinkof going.
I wonder how long thisfragrance lasts.
Never Does this fragrance last10 hours.
I don't remember ever wonderinghow long the fragrance lasts.
Performs one.
Steve (23:03):
You don't put a number on it until you start kind of
sharing, reporting back to thecommunity, as it were.
Like I started doing videos,obviously people know how many
hours it lasts, they want toquantify it and there's so many
factors that can affect that.
I think before I would probablybefore as a sort of frag head,
I would probably spray somecorner in the morning If I
couldn't smell it a few hourslater after a bit annoyed, a bit
(23:24):
I can't really smell myself orwhatever, I wouldn't go.
Only lasted three and a halfhours.
Myke (23:31):
You said a timer on your phone.
Ryan (23:34):
Yeah, we've never like really extensively been like hey
, we put this on at eighto'clock and it's 530.
It lasted forever.
No.
I'm with you too?
I've really never.
I mean, you can just kind oftell when something's going to
smell good and last a little bitRight.
The whole 12 hour jargon.
I guess that's selling pointsto people, I don't know.
Myke (23:52):
I think it's like how long is long enough?
It's never really an issueuntil it's an issue.
I guess you know what I mean.
Like it's never an issue unlessit just really did terrible.
Steve (24:03):
Yeah, you know the thing is, I think, for me personally,
I've always said, if it lasts aworking day like six to seven
hours, I'm happy, because if youwere then going to an event in
the evening, if that was thecase, I would take a fragrance
with me and I would top upbefore I went to the event.
If, like, I was wearing thatfragrance to work and then I was
meeting some people after workfor drinks, I would absolutely
take a fragrance with me to topup because, yeah, which is 100%.
(24:26):
So I don't need it to last 12hours.
I just ideally I want it tolast until I finish my working
day and I can get home or getback to the gym or the shower
room or whatever, so I can topup and freshen up.
That's it.
That's what I need.
Ryan (24:39):
You just single-handedly destroyed big fragrance.
Yeah, trying to chill us withthis 12 hour bullshit, because
that's exactly what any saneindividual does, right, I'm like
man, I'm about to be somewherenice, I've got an extra thing
here.
I'm going to spray it on for awalk in.
I want to mean him.
Every time we do a businessmeeting, we bring a bottle with
this and we're like now we'llput it on for even walking the
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door.
Myke (25:01):
I don't have to have this 12 hour bullshit, right yeah,
our meetings never last thatlong.
Yeah, if I can get a good hourout of this.
We're probably doing prettygood.
Ryan (25:12):
We've literally been like we know this one won't last long
, but it smells good yeah.
Myke (25:17):
Now we'll do it and then open the door.
Hey, fellas.
Steve (25:21):
Yeah.
It's not big.
For me, when you're talkingabout performance, it's more.
I think, where it's more anadvantage?
If you don't need, if it's juststrong, in the sense that you
only need one or two sprays,because then you're getting
value for money, because it'sgoing to last longer, your
bottle's going to last longerFor sure.
You're saving yourself money.
That is when it starts becomingadvantageous, like strength and
performance.
Ryan (25:39):
You guys may have answered this already, but really quick,
price and trend price it's acold dead corpse, okay, but on
the trend.
But on the price it's $89 onthe thing and it's that whole
gimmick.
If you buy two it's cheaper, ifyou buy three.
Myke (25:56):
Oh yeah, who's doing that?
I hate that shit.
Steve (25:59):
Again, that website is shit.
Ryan (26:01):
It is so shit Thank you who does their marketing?
Steve (26:04):
Because it actively put me off their website because
it's so cheap.
It looks like some sort offucking DH gate, she and Temu
type situation it's like oh,who's bulk buying this shit?
Myke (26:17):
Just resell it.
Steve (26:18):
You're going to be like I'm going to get 12 bottles and
sell it to my friends.
Like nobody does that.
So the moment I go on there andthe moment a website does that
whole, oh, 10 hours left.
It's like it puts me off, so itactively put me off buying it,
but, as I say, I fell for itanyway.
Ryan (26:32):
And the other part I remember go ahead, go ahead.
Steve (26:34):
I was just going to say I fell for it.
Once years ago, I was buyinglike a new.
We moved into our house that wewere in.
Now, like years ago, in 2016,and we needed, like I wanted to
get a new bed, like new house,new bed.
I wanted to get like king size.
I was like, and I was likefound this website doing these
beds and it was like 11 o'clockat night and there was a
countdown and I was like, oh myGod, I've only got 49 minutes to
sign on a bed to get thisdiscount, and I was like
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panicking in my wife's bed.
I'm like, oh my God, I'mspending this money.
And then I ordered a bed and Iswear to God, in front of my
eyes it went past like themidnight and the countdown
literally started again.
It literally restarted in frontof my eyes.
I was like you fuckers, you gotme, you got me so valuable life
lesson you learned yeah.
I'd never fall for that shit.
Ryan (27:16):
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to say the brandname here, because I actually
like particular fragrance theyput out.
But their website is also dogshit, or at least it was at the
time and they do the thing wherethere's like there's only six
left, but when you refresh thepage it's like there's 11 left.
It's like a randomly like arandom number generator on it of
(27:36):
all things.
And so Scarcity mindset man,it's.
Myke (27:40):
What was it the FOMO thing we were talking about?
Yeah, I had to educate Ryan onwhat FOMO meant today.
Steve (27:46):
Yeah, I know Favorite missing out on that Exactly, I
should have about it.
Ryan (27:50):
Okay, who is?
I was going to ask this and Igot into probably some trim.
But who do you for real thinkgoes out and loves this so much?
They buy it, they got to wearit.
Who's the kind of person that'sgoing to wear fragrance like
this?
Hmm?
Steve (28:03):
Well, I think you're not going to smell this in store, so
I think it's who's going to buyit.
So who's going to fall for thatmarketing she is and I think,
it's going to be somebody inthere who's like a businessman,
maybe like 30, late 30s, 30s,40s, maybe he was quite
successful middle management andtotally falls for all the
marketing.
He looks at this and goes thisis, this is a fragrance I can
wear today to work.
(28:24):
Women are going to love it, I'mgoing to be attractive, I'm
going to be seen as successful.
It's just that guy that's goingto fall that he's wearing Chino
shirt to work.
It's that guy.
He's not into fragrances, right, he sees the marketing and
believes it and goes I'm goingto buy it and he'll probably
smell this and go yeah, thissmells nice.
He'll probably be quite happywith his purchase.
To be honest, that guy, I agree.
(28:45):
I was going to say a key holder.
Ryan (28:48):
A key holder, my God, nobody knows what that is.
It's just below a manager.
You're just like giving the keyto open up.
They were allowing you enoughto open the door and start
scooping ice cream to servepeople.
Myke (29:00):
They give you the key instead of the promotion and the
raise.
Ryan (29:03):
Exactly yes.
Myke (29:05):
Yeah, I kind of feel like it's one of two.
It's the guy that you'retalking about, steve, or it's
just a young dude that, again,doesn't know much about
fragrances, is on social mediaand it's like this is going to
get you laid, little guy, okay.
Steve (29:20):
When you say young, how young are you saying?
High school Really?
Yeah?
I don't think they're full.
The guys that are in themarketing adverts and the
shilling it a bit older thanthat.
Yeah, that is true.
Myke (29:32):
I don't think they're full for it.
God, there was a dude in likelate fifties and one I saw and
it was like this is he likesprays it on his wife's light
right next to him, or somethingshe's like?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, she starts kneeling down,kneels out of frame.
Steve (29:48):
I think people is going to be non-frag heads who can't
afford a Ventus, are going tosee this as like an Aventus,
like Cologne, that they canafford.
Like they're going to thinkit's the same sort of get the
same effect, same impact as aVentus, but they've beaten the
system.
They fell for the markets andthey've beaten the system.
It's going to yeah, that'sprobably it.
Myke (30:08):
It's going to be quick on it too, because we were
literally talking about doingthis episode.
I open up my laptop and I pullup Instagram just to check the
audio levels.
Before we piped in with you,and it was the first ad that
popped up yeah, yeah, Well, I've.
Steve (30:25):
I'm fucked now because I've just searched to look up
what the notes were forGravitate.
Myke (30:30):
So that's it.
I'm fucked.
Now You'll see it.
Steve (30:32):
It's going to be on my Instagram, on my Facebook.
It's going to be all over theplace again until I start like
keep hiding the adverts again.
Myke (30:39):
So yeah, every time it's like.
Steve (30:41):
It's just like the fucking weird creepy neighbor
that just keeps sticking theirhead over the fence.
That's it.
Myke (30:48):
So here's a question related to who's wearing it.
Steve, you got a full bottle ofthis bad boy.
Are you going to be wearingthis ever?
Steve (30:58):
So I wore this.
I wore this quite a bit, for agood few weeks actually, because
I, as I say, I think it's aperfectly pleasant fragrance and
I was in my YouTube video.
I was talking about as much asI'm into fragrances because of
my day job, where I'm kind of insales, so I'm seeing clients
and customers and things I don'twant to smell challenging.
I don't want to smell of Ood.
(31:18):
I don't want to smell of adonkey's asshole.
I want to smell, mass, appealing, clean.
So all these sort of shower gelfragrances are a really good
daily driver for my sort of dayjob.
So that's why I ended up buyingthis.
I thought I'll give it gobecause I just wanted an
alternative to like the Blur deChanel and the savages and all
that sort of shit.
So I did wear this for quite afew weeks and eventually.
(31:41):
So I got quite a few wearingsout of it and I did wear it a
fair bit and then eventually Iwas just like I like it but I
don't love it.
So why don't I just wear afragrance that I actually love?
I've got like Blur de Chaneland I've got other ones, and
there's another fragrance thatwe'll maybe do another episode
on that I thought I'd love with.
So in the end I thought, oh, Imight just stick it on eBay and
(32:04):
see what I get.
So there was a like an eBaysellers deal on and I stuck it
on eBay as an auction and itended up.
Somebody got into a bidding warand I ended up selling it for
more than I paid for it.
Myke (32:14):
So I actually made a profit on this right.
Okay, patreons, hear that,because we're going to be giving
this away to you on Patreon.
You could end up being a verywealthy individual.
Steve (32:24):
You could.
You could make tens of dollarsout of this right.
Myke (32:30):
No doubt.
Okay, you're going to skip it.
Sample it, oh, by it.
Ryan (32:35):
What are you going to do, steve, after buying it and
selling it on eBay?
Myke (32:40):
You're going to buy it again.
Steve (32:42):
I mean what I would say.
This is a real tough onebecause, like I say, I think for
the right person this is a goodfragrance, I think, but the
probably, if you're listening tothis podcast, you're not that
person.
Myke (32:55):
But if it was.
Steve (32:56):
You know some guy that you're meeting down the office
or whatever.
If you just wanted a dailydriver for work, you might tell
them to sample this, to behonest, because it's a bit
different.
But if you're a frag, if you'rein this community, if you're a
regular listeners, this podcastis it's got a bit of a skip,
isn't it really?
Myke (33:12):
I feel like even at this price in the US 75 bucks even at
this price you can find for 40,50 bucks less challenging great
smelling fragrances around thatprice that are probably better
than this.
Ryan (33:27):
Mont Blanc gets four out the gate for me.
Steve (33:30):
Yes, I mean.
My argument to this is and thisis why I sort of wanted to buy
this is you?
There is a risk that you startsmelling like other people,
though this is the thing.
Like I said, I've got Blur deChanel, I've got the odor
perfume and the perfume version.
Both odor perfume ispractically empty.
There's nothing left.
I've nearly finished theperfume.
I've got a lot of those.
(33:50):
I've finished a bottle of PradaLom.
So a lot of those clean officestyle fragrances because of my
day job.
I've worn, I've used, sosomebody like me, you want
something that's a bit different, so you don't smell like every
other person.
So that's where I try to moveaway from your savages and all
that sort of shit.
But it's hard because themoment you move away from it,
(34:11):
you just smell generic.
Where Blur de Chanel smellsgood, it's a shower gel
fragrance, but it's the bestshower gel fragrance really.
You know it smells very good.
So that's the challenge.
Myke (34:22):
Yeah, I, you know, I never thought of that sort of.
You get the safe, cleangenerics and then you start
smelling overly generic.
So then you look for anothergeneric fragrance that's less
generic because it's lessadopted.
Steve (34:36):
It's a fine line because you want to sell Massapilin but
you want to smell differentMassapilin.
If you don't want to smell, ohhe's really good, and you don't
want to think, oh he smells.
Like the guy that I met lastweek for that other client
meeting.
You know it's like I've been inthat situation where I've stayed
over in a hotel with my workcolleagues.
I've gone down to breakfast,I've sat down and I was like, oh
, I could smell Savage.
I'm like, oh, who's wearingSavage?
(34:57):
And two or three people haveanswered.
Oh, it's me Like at the sametime, literally at the table,
like three people are wearingSavage.
It's like that's, you don'twant to be that guy, do you no?
Myke (35:07):
I don't want to be the guy smelling Savage in general.
Steve (35:10):
Exactly Like you love Prada Luna Ross of Carbon, which
I do as well.
It's a beautiful fragrance, butit does smell like Savage and
like other people, and youprobably don't want to smell
like other people, do you?
Myke (35:21):
So not all the time, but God damn do I love wearing that
occasion Every time you wear it.
Ryan (35:26):
It's amazing.
For me, guys, this is a, thisis an easy skip.
It's.
I feel like Steve, and probablyyou a little bit, but
definitely Steve.
Steve is actually breaking thisdown great and giving it a fair
shot, and I really am trying to.
I'm probably going to be alittle bit biased, but I just
feel like just knowing we can goto drug and porium I can get
some for 40, 50 bucks that Ifeel like would just blow this
(35:47):
out of the water.
This is a little too quiet forme, A little too safe.
It does, to me, smell a littlebit like LaCos red maybe had sex
with Savage.
It smells a little bit likeboth, but it's like really
watered down and even if I couldget this for $40, I would not
get this.
Even if I got it that cheap,I'd be like it's just not worth
that to me Me personally.
Steve (36:08):
Well, I mean you guys, I'd listen to your cool water
episode by Davidoff and that youcan get.
For what did you get it forless than 20 bucks and yeah,
absolutely 16.
Ryan (36:16):
And it's killer.
It blows this out of the waterto me personally.
Myke (36:20):
But it is got its own personality For sure.
This is way more appealing thanthat, I honestly believe, if it
hadn't been for the reallycringy ads and the fact that
it's some company that mainlydoes like face scrubs and shit
like that.
If this was in a differentbottle by a designer and we
smelled it, we may go it's kindof generic but we wouldn't go
(36:42):
like it's a shitty fragrance, wewould just go, hmm, it belongs
on the shelf you know thedepartment store shelf, not my
personal shelf but I think wewould think that like it smells,
like it's a shitty fragranceSmells good.
Yeah, if I try really hard, Ican get a little bit of the
pepper there and a little bit ofthe apple.
But but all in all, yeah, Ithink it's a skip.
Just because it is so genericand I'm thinking about my own
(37:04):
personal collection going, Iprobably wouldn't wear this.
I got two bottles of Luna Russacarbon, so if I want to smell
that type of vibe, I'll wearthat.
I love that fragrance.
It's almost the same price.
We can get a hundred mil bottlefor 80 bucks.
So I would hands down alwaysbuy that over this at the same
price.
But if you can get it at adiscount and you know you're
(37:25):
looking for something, likeSteve is saying, that is less
worn, I don't think it's a badoption.
Steve (37:31):
Hmm, agreed.
Ryan (37:32):
Well, I guess the majority rules on this one, guys.
Steve (37:36):
It smells like Lomal team .
So if you like that fragrance,this might be worth a smell.
Lomal team is better.
It's better quality, it's gotrose and stuff which makes it
more interesting and because ofthe slightly different direction
, but it does smell like that so, which I think is discontinued.
So perhaps if you were a fan ofthat fragrance and you want a
poor man's version of it, assuch, this could be a show.
But yeah, there's other options.
Myke (37:56):
I thought this was going to be really, really bad, and
it's actually.
I'm surprised at how decent itis.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan (38:02):
It is definitely decent.
I don't want people tomisconstrue everything I'm
saying like it's not worth it tosomebody, but just for me.
It is a skip, but it's not abad scent.
It is very light, though I feellike it's really dissipating.
A 12 hour claim with me wouldnot be happening with this thing
.
Myke (38:18):
I don't think 12 hours, but I definitely think, yeah,
six to eight hours about youcould get just guessing on my
skin.
It's pretty there and I did twosprays, all right.
Ryan (38:28):
We'll see.
I feel like it's doing whatsomebody like Rajadav would say
is like it's not pulling outlike real strong emotions either
, or it's just riding the linesuper safe.
Myke (38:43):
Yeah, I don't know that saying if it's not a fuck yes,
then it's a fuck no, yeah.
Steve (38:48):
Let's be honest.
Like I said earlier, though,this isn't for the fragrance
community.
Ryan (38:51):
No right.
Steve (38:52):
This fragrance is absolutely never created with
the fragrance community in mind.
Trying to come up withsomething different, interesting
, break the mold, shake up theindustry.
This was 100% designed for the30-somethings scrolling on
Instagram that fall for theseads, I guess myself included.
Myke (39:09):
I guess because I felt ripped but you know, it's such a
bit, you know there was someirony in my purchase.
Steve (39:14):
It's 100% yeah, but yeah, that's 100% who this is.
And, as I say, I think the vastmajority of people that do fall
for the adverts will smell thisand probably be quite pleased
with the purchase.
I think they'll think it smellsnice and they'll be quite happy
with it, and they might evenre-up on it.
To be honest, but the peoplelistening to this podcast, the
(39:35):
vast majority of those people,will not necessarily kind of
enjoy this fragrance as much.
Myke (39:40):
Why ever run out when you could just buy three bottles and
get a discount?
Steve (39:44):
Yeah, basically they're trying to start a pyramid scheme
.
Buy loads of bottles, sell themto your friends.
When they sell them on you,take a cut of it.
It's just a fragrance pyramid.
Let's do that shit.
Ryan (39:57):
Well, let me ask this when you first were sampling this,
did your wife smell it from theother room and just go freaking
nuts on you Like the commercial,Throw you out on the bed.
Steve (40:06):
I heard her panties hit the floor Because they're not
those panties and they're notthese skimpy little lacy numbers
.
So I literally heard the thudand I was like I'm in here.
The chastity belt came off andit was here I heard the padlock
and the chains hit the floor andthey all went.
Ryan (40:29):
I'm in here, anybody listening?
I promise you that will nothappen.
Myke (40:33):
It's okay, I don't know.
I mean, depends on how genericyour wife is.
Okay, well, I think we've gotother fragrances to smell,
ladies and gentlemen, so we'regoing to slide out on this
episode.
But all in all, if I have tosum it up, I'm very shocked that
it's actually decent.
I am shocked it is actuallydecent.
So maybe it's a sample forsomebody to skip for me.
Ryan (40:55):
And Steve, you're saying this is a sample, but it could
be a buy for somebody out therethat has no life.
The answer is no.
Steve (41:05):
No, they want a life.
They want a life.
Myke (41:08):
You buy the fragrance that's called for the market A
life in a bottle.
Ryan (41:12):
Yeah, okay.
Thank you guys for joining thisepisode and thank you, steve
for always stopping in herebringing up some really cool
fragrance stuff.
I feel like we have more funwith him figuring out this shit
than we do with ourselvessometimes.
But thank you so much and untilnext time, everybody Spray it
up, spray it up Yo.
Hello everybody, welcome to the Cologne Podcast.
Myke (00:06):
I'm Mike and I'm Ryan.
We're two best friends.
We're going on a fragrancejourney, smelling fragrances and
giving you uneducated opinions,and today we've got a very
special fragrance, one that'shad a hype machine so big.
Ryan (00:19):
Well, I mean pretty big, I don't know how big, but pretty
big right, larger than average.
Yeah, sized hype machine Socialmedia campaign that'll make you
and you know what we're goingto see if it's worth it.
Myke (00:35):
This fragrance I had seen the adverts, but then our friend
Steve from Everyman Fragranceyou may have known and loved him
from the Scent Geeks podcast hemessaged me because we're very
best friends and he said Ibought into the hype.
I bought a bottle and I sentback a screenshot and said I
bought it too.
Let's do an episode.
Ryan (00:55):
So yeah, he's here, we're about to do it, but first, oh,
did we even say the?
Myke (00:59):
fragrance, yet it's gravitate by particle and, as
usual, we have a Fragranticareview, but we thought we'd do
you one better.
We've got a positive and anegative.
We're going to hit you with thepositive first, let you know
everything you could come toexpect from this fragrance, and
then we've got Fragrantica fullof trolls ready to let you down.
(01:22):
Okay, first we're going tostart with the positive, and
this is from Timmy over onInstagram.
Ryan (01:29):
I'm going to do a smell test.
Let's see what's better theclone I've been using for three
years that was gifted to me bymy mother-in-law.
Or gravitate, here we go.
Mmm, it's masculine but chill.
Steve (01:39):
What is that?
Um, gravitate, it's that videoI'm doing for particle.
Ryan (01:43):
Can you take a break for a minute?
Hold on, I'll be done in just alittle bit.
Steve (01:49):
Well, it lasts 12 hours.
Ryan (01:57):
So, what the fuck?
Yeah, I'm done now I thinkwe're taking a shirt off.
Steve (02:05):
Oh my God, you guys weren't a life-beater.
Myke (02:07):
Come on, oh my Lord, okay, yeah.
So the premise of that is hesprayed it on, oh, I'm doing
this.
And then his wife in thebackground says uh, hey, timmy,
yeah, timmy, could you put onthat wife beater and come in
here and give me five minutes ofpleasure.
Ryan (02:24):
I don't need the last 12 hours, stop lying.
Oh my God, the last 12?
Myke (02:27):
minutes Let me just get in here Just five, five minutes,
all right.
And then we have, uh, we haveour review over on Fragrantica
from O'Yilla who just says scrap.
Ryan (02:44):
I feel like that's going to be me today, buddy.
Yeah, oh my.
Myke (02:48):
God.
Well, we're going to find out.
There's been a lot of money putbehind this to make sure that
we all know about it, so it mustbe good and I can't wait to
smell it with Steve and my bestfriend Ryan.
But first we got to do that onenight stand review, going back
in time to smell five differentpine word fragrances.
Ryan (03:09):
Five nights of pine word Hit the music Todd yeah.
One night stand review.
Well, mike, after spending thenight, five nights, with Pine
word, what did you think weresome of the lows and highs when
(03:31):
the what's the one that youliked and maybe the worst one,
the worst?
Myke (03:36):
one Merckwood for me.
I think so.
I think I got to go withMerckwood, but the best and
quite possibly one of the betterfragrances we've smelled in
2023.
Yeah, white fur.
Ryan (03:48):
It was shockingly good, shockingly good.
I wonder why that one was likeso, like a wearable fragrance?
Yeah, that would that.
We both.
I think we both said it's ahard sample to possibly buy,
right, depending on what youlike If the price was there it
would absolutely be a buy.
Myke (04:05):
Still about A little too much $50 more than I could spend
, you know, with a clearconscience on it.
But it was badass, it was superbadass.
Ryan (04:17):
The gingerbread one was nice too.
It was more of a I want to sayGourmand, I think more scent
memory type of fragrance, but itwas good.
And the tree stuff, whichthat's what I was trying to find
was something that we know, butsome of it was a little too
real and too earthy dirt andgrimy Right.
Myke (04:36):
So people out there interested in that.
I wouldn't be shocked if themajority of these might make
their way to being in a diffuseror some sort of you know thing
like that, as opposed to just afragrance.
Ryan (04:48):
Actually, let me read something from our Patreon.
If you're not a subscriber,make sure to head over to
patreoncom.
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We have giveaways.
We have extra episodes.
Yeah, we have early access.
We have one on one time with meand Mike.
We have Lives coming up yeah,we have everything.
Myke (05:07):
Oh, 2024 is going to be fucking wild over there.
It's going to be wild onPatreon.
Ryan (05:12):
And it's been while we got some great friends of the
podcast over there and one thatactually contributes quite a bit
.
He's sent stuff, he's been apatron, he's an avid listener.
But I want to read this commentbecause it was actually.
We did a review of Beaver byzoologist over there.
That's right.
We have a listener that goes bynot okay music and we did this
review of Beaver and it was areally rough fragrance.
(05:34):
Once a week we usually let thepatrons pick between two things
get an episode created andthey've been doing great,
they've picked some greatfragrances and we've had some
good times, but they ended uppicking Beaver and it was whoa,
it was rough.
Myke (05:46):
It wasn't as rough as some of the other zoologist
fragrances that are out thereand available, but it still
sings the same note, which iskeep going.
Ryan (05:55):
So he was replying to the episode and hearing our disgust
for it.
He said lol, I don't know.
I think maybe zoologist got itright.
When I think of the actualanimal, I think of stink glands.
Maybe this scent is some kindof olfactory journey into datasm
.
Is that the word Datasm.
Myke (06:15):
I don't know how to pronounce it, but basically it's
like emphasizing the offness ofsomething, and so I think he
was implying that maybe theyintentionally made it not as
wearable as it should have been.
Ryan (06:28):
Yeah, it's more of an art piece, right yeah, conceptual in
nature.
I think a lot of thosefragrances from Pine Word I feel
like kind of leaned to that.
Myke (06:37):
Yeah, it's the same thing as we saw with Sombur, which was
like nobody would ever wearthis.
This is disgusting and they'relike we did it.
We did it, boys.
Ryan (06:48):
We made it.
Your guys are going to fuckingpuke when you smell it, exactly.
Yeah, apparently I feel like in, you know, on Pine Word's
website, the gentleman that runshis name is Nick.
I believe he even kind of says,like he's not looking for
people to really talk about orcare, it's just something that
he's kind of passionate about.
He's not looking for, you know,shilling it and shit like that.
Myke (07:10):
So he's just having fun with it.
The guy really appreciates pinetrees.
Ryan (07:15):
Apparently, I will say you seriously, guys.
To get back to what this onenight stand review was kind of
really about, I will say thewhite fur is seriously good, got
to sample it.
Myke (07:26):
You really got to sample it.
If you are interested in citrus, you're interested in
coniferous plants out there.
This would be a nice combobecause it had that realistic
sort of zest off of an orangetype smell.
It had that realistic pine treetype smell and they worked so
well together Very well that Iwas like, ooh, I want to wear
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this, but it's too expensive andit's also such a thick,
concentrated fragrance as far asoils are concerned, you can't
even spray it on light clothes.
It'll stain the hell out of it.
Yeah, don't even try it, but itis beautiful, I agree.
Ryan (08:02):
And with that that's our one night stain review of Pine
words, kind of a on the houseepisode Right.
And now we have Steve.
He's been staring through thecamera at us over here waiting
for us to shut up and do thisthing.
Let's smell, gravitate byparticle and also say hi to our
friend from overseas, steve,hello, how are you doing guys?
(08:25):
It's good to be here.
I know you've been reallyexcited for us to smell this and
this has been going on forabout a month or two now.
You've been just biting at thebit for us to smell this thing.
Steve (08:35):
Yes, you in particular.
I really want to get your takeon this.
Obviously, this fragrance ishyped to hell.
Yes, mainly because they'vejust paid a load of influencers
to shill it on Instagram andwhatnot.
So I just kept getting spams onthis fragrance.
So in the end I annoyingly, Ididn't want to buy it because of
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the marketing, and it was soannoying, but I was also so
curious to smell it that I didbuy it, so I paid my own money.
I definitely did not get a freebottle on this shit.
So, yeah, and then I told Mikeabout it and he was like we're
going to get on it too.
So this is it?
Myke (09:12):
I'm excited you have smelled this.
We haven't, but we said nospoilers.
We're not going to go see yourreview, so this will be a hot,
fresh take for us.
On the skin, on the testerstrip, you go ahead and run the
box.
Steve (09:27):
I mean, can we just talk about the packaging?
Why are you undoing that?
Ryan (09:29):
Hey, good, because I actually did.
I was soon before you got hereand we were setting up
everything.
He put this down and I was likeI hate the packaging already.
I don't like it.
It's fucking awful, isn't it?
It's fucking terrible.
It like it's already likepredetermining like this may be
bad.
Myke (09:45):
What's bad about it?
Like listeners.
Ryan (09:47):
I guess, because what's just like two of the thinnest
piece of whatever cardboard thisis and it slides up and down to
reveal it.
Cool, but it's like so cheapand how that it's done.
I don't know if it looks.
Steve (10:00):
it's like a kid's toy, you know, like you've got some
sort of car or something andit's like in a box with plastic
around it and you slide it onand put it apart.
It's that sort of cheap toypackaging.
That's what it feels like to me.
Myke (10:13):
I'll tell you what it really is and it's kind of a bit
of an effort to get it out.
Ryan (10:16):
Yeah, to get that out, the bottle looks, but the bottle.
Steve (10:20):
I think the bottle is okay.
I like the bottle.
Ryan (10:23):
Yeah, I'm not judging bottles.
Let's see you ready.
Steve (10:25):
I'm ready, let's do it.
It's a stiff cap, really.
It's really stiff cap, god damnit.
Myke (10:32):
There you go, fucking sword in the stone.
You need to need to hit Arm Daya little bit more, ryan.
Ryan (10:38):
Jesus, and it's like the cheapest cap.
It's like I don't man, thecap's got some weight to it
though, though oh, I thought itwas metal.
I did too.
It feels maybe hard to wear.
Myke (10:49):
Maybe ours is.
I think it is metal, I thinkit's just a thinner metal and
it's not a magnet.
Steve (10:53):
It's not just for the listeners, it's not a magnetic
cap, but it is very stiff, it'svery solid.
You can lift it up by that capeasily.
Ryan (10:59):
Here we go guys.
Steve (11:02):
I'm excited.
Myke (11:04):
Good God, you wearing this shit, whoo.
Steve (11:10):
Right, right, let's also, before you kind of get into it,
let's try and come in at it ina non-judgey place.
Let's be open-minded.
Absolutely let's come in.
Let's forget the marketing,let's forget the packaging.
Let's imagine you're in afragrance store.
Someone's just sprayed a stripand said, oh, what do you think
to this, sir?
Let's just try and clear thepre-judgment sort of from the
head and just smell it as afragrance.
Myke (11:31):
When Ryan was spraying it, initially I thought sauvage in
the air.
Steve (11:34):
Really, I don't get that.
Ryan (11:37):
You're not going to believe me there, steve, but I'm
with you.
But I'll say this I smell it onthe card.
I do get sauvage, but like avery dainty sauvage just barely
there.
Myke (11:47):
I don't really get it, other than that initial spray.
I was like is this kind ofsauvage On the skin?
Is it not just like a showerjelly, sort of fresh?
Yes, yeah.
Steve (11:58):
I get that.
It's like sauvage in the sensethat it's a blue shower gel
fragrance, but like a side byside.
I don't think it smells likesauvage.
Tony from Fragdictid he thoughtit was very much like sauvage,
but I just don't get that.
Ryan (12:13):
I get it on the card.
On my skin it's just very.
When I say alcoholic, I don'tmean like a drink, I mean like
literally rubbing alcohol.
It's very kind of strong.
So I kind of oh, I really smell.
Myke (12:24):
I was kind of losing it on the card.
Honestly, I couldn't reallysmell it.
I can smell it more on my skin.
I just did a couple more sprays.
Ryan (12:30):
I mean, fuck, it's not.
Look, if we compared this toblue Atlantis, one that we
smelled that time, that was agem.
I feel like this pulls thepants down on that one, but it's
like I don't know, you know thething that sold me on, it was
the advert the guy had.
Myke (12:50):
You seen that?
Steve (12:50):
one, steve.
Yeah, I've seen.
And the trouble is all theadverts they all use the same
script.
So it would be a differentchiseled guy.
Yeah, talking about you know,oh, it smells this.
It's very manly, it's verywoody, my wife loves it.
In the last 12 hours they saythe exact same shit in every
advert.
Yeah, just because they're well, we say advert, it's not, you
(13:12):
know, it's a, it's a fray, aninfluencer, shill, isn't it
Right?
But so it's annoying.
But I mean, I think it smellsnice.
I personally, I don't think youcan say it's a bad fragrance.
Ryan (13:23):
I will agree.
I will agree.
I don't think it's a badfragrance, but it is very skin
scent.
Myke (13:29):
So far, because it's so generic smelling.
It also kind of makes it smellkind of cheap.
Oh, it absolutely smells cheap,Not like trashy cheap, just
like I probably wouldn't spendwhat we spent on it.
Well, you spent, I didn't spendit, Would you spend?
No, I took it out of the jointaccount.
Ryan (13:44):
Fuck you.
You wasted money on this shit.
God damn, oh fuck.
Steve (13:53):
It is a 100 mil bottle.
See, I think it smells like twodifferent fragrances.
So two fragrances I referencedin my video, and one of them is
in particular, is particularlywell respected.
So I don't know if you've eversmelled YSL, lom Ultime I have
not.
No See, it smells similar tothat.
That one it's definitely not aclone.
It does smell.
It's not like a side by sidedirect copy of it, but it's got
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a lot of similarities to it.
It shares a lot of notes.
That has rosen it.
This one absolutely doesn't, butit's got a lot of similar notes
and it does remind me of that.
Yeah, along with there'sBurberry Brit Rhythm or Brit
Rhythm Intense.
It smells a little bit of thatbecause that's got like a spicy
vibe, so that's kind of powderyspicy and it's got that as this
starts drying down it gets alittle bit sort of more sort of
(14:39):
peppery spicy, which kind ofreminds me of that.
So those are the two fragrances.
But LOM Ultime is really nice.
It's quite I think it might bediscontinued, but it's quite
highly regarded and that itsmells a lot too dissimilar to
that.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan (14:51):
It's not bad, but for me, like my personal opinion, like
this is To me, this smells likegravitate, maybe found some
thrown out Savage bottles behindUlta or something which is like
a store around here.
They sell cosmetics andfragrances and I feel like they
just like mixed it like one partof this and four parts water.
Myke (15:12):
So it smells like a watered down Savage, exactly.
Yeah, I don't know that.
It smells like Savage.
I mean Savage kills thisfragrance.
Oh, a hundred percent.
But yeah, to me it smells kindof young, like I feel like if
you got this for a teenagerthey'd be like hell.
Yeah, I think they did a goodjob of making a designer
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smelling fragrance.
But I mean you're getting closeto a hundred bucks for a
hundred mil.
I think, steve, you used adiscount code.
You told me about it.
I use the discount codes.
We've got it under 70 bucks,but yeah, I think mine was.
Steve (15:46):
I can't remember.
Yeah, I think I paid six, justunder 70 pounds.
I could have a look in a minutefor a hundred mil.
So it's like 67 quid.
I'll have a look.
Skin's terrible, I can't.
Ryan (15:57):
But it's not.
It's not the worst, it's justnot that great.
The card stock is the win forme.
Myke (16:01):
I think a high schooler could wear this, or a guy who
just doesn't care aboutfragrances would probably see
the advert that, like the womanin the background, is saying
like as soon as he sprays it oh,you know, get in here so I can
have a hot, passionate sex withyou.
You know, like if I was, youknow, a guy that wasn't in the
fragrances and needed a littlehelp, you know, with the
(16:22):
opposite sex, and I saw thatadvert and bought this, it'd be
like smells nice.
Steve (16:31):
I think it's.
It smells perfectly fine.
I think it's a good office andit's very inoffensive.
I think nobody's going toreally dislike it yeah cause you
can't smell it If you want that, that daily driver office, then
I think it's fine.
I think it, I think the openingis very pleasant.
I like this.
I agree Not.
We've not talked about thenotes.
Actually, that's normally myjob when I guest on here.
Myke (16:53):
Yeah, yeah.
You need to show and run howeasy it is to pull this after I
jarred it loose.
Ryan (17:00):
Okay.
Steve (17:01):
Hey, you loosened it.
Yeah.
So at the top there's bergamot,grapefruit, pepper and rosemary
.
See, I don't get too muchpepper in the top, I get it a
little bit further down and thenthere's paprius, cashmere wood,
apple and nutmeg.
In the mid and in the basethere's musk, cedar, vetifier
and it lists ambergris, but weknow that's unbroxied and that's
not going to be actualambergris.
(17:22):
So, interestingly, it doesshare a lot of similar notes to
a long old team.
It shares, like the cashmerewood, the cedar.
I'm just going to see if I canfind the notes for it.
Myke (17:33):
I kind of get that apple.
It says she has a lot ofsimilar notes.
Ryan (17:35):
What's that one fragrance?
I got you to smell at Drug andPorium the red bottle that I
said, hey, me and Todd used towear that.
They kind of smell similar tothat too.
Oh, lacoste red.
It does smell like lacoste reda little bit.
Myke (17:47):
I like that.
There is that sweet fruitinessthat when you said apple, I was
like, oh, I can kind of smellapple in there, which does make
me think of a YSL fragrance forsure.
Steve (17:55):
Yeah, well, it's interesting.
So if we look at like again,just compare the notes just to
kind of back my statement up.
So it's got the same notes.
It's got grapefruit, it's gotapple, it's got a cedar, it's
got vetiver, it's got cashmere.
We had all of those exact samenotes are in the long old team
as well.
So you can start seeing why itmakes sense that I said.
(18:17):
It sort of reminds me of it, tobe honest.
But long old teams got Rose,draenium, so it's got a few
others that kind of go in aslightly different direction.
Myke (18:25):
But do you think they were targeting that?
You think whoever did this waslike hey, here's an idea to kind
of I don't know.
Steve (18:33):
I mean it's funny because as far as I know, I'm the only
person that's referenced thatlong old team fragrance.
Myke (18:40):
Well, I'm more saying like whoever started this company
was like obviously we can't goafter a Ventus Sauvage.
Those are like two out in theopen.
Maybe we'll pick this one thatpeople can't even say or
pronounce and it could be.
Steve (18:55):
I think it's certainly the exact same genre as long old
team.
It's very clean, fresh.
This could be a signature scent, like you say.
It wouldn't be for a frag headbecause it's not exciting enough
, but you could easily wear thisevery day.
You could wear this in theoffice at a party in the evening
.
Yeah, there's, there's not asituation you couldn't wear this
fragrance Right, very likeunless you were going to a
fragrance meetup.
(19:16):
It's a smell interesting.
But other than that it'sabsolutely a daily driver for
the muggle or the average personyou know to the gym after the
shower something.
Ryan (19:26):
Yeah, look, I'm going to try to be fair with this.
I really do believe this is,like night and day, better than
the blue Atlantis thing wesmelled a few months back.
Steve (19:35):
So it doesn't smell bad.
Which do you prefer, Mike?
I have interest.
I mean, it's probably testingyour memory, sort of to be fair.
Myke (19:40):
But if you like the blue Atlantis over this dude, I will
say the blue Atlantis did take ashot at a more interesting that
black tea sort of thing.
It was fresh and it was likealmost like and now that I'm
thinking about it it makes sensethe name because it smelled
very wet and like very, you know, hydrated.
(20:01):
Hmm, this is like that drier,cleaner.
I think that this, overall, isa better wear.
I don't hate the blue Atlantisone like you did, ryan.
You were just so upset.
I think if you had saw a bunchof people in the fragrance
community pushing this one,you'd be losing your shit right
now on it.
Ryan (20:19):
Well, I mean I hadn't had a chance to look.
Have you seen Steve?
Have?
I mean you don't have to namenames, but have people in our
community?
Have they been pushing this andlike it's?
You know an eventus, you knowreplacement or something?
Steve (20:32):
No, so I've not seen the proper fragrance reviewers
pushing this like they did forthat one, like they've been paid
.
I'd seen a lot of more generalInstagram influencers pushing
this.
I was trying to find somegenuine reviews of this
fragrance and you can sort oftell the ones that are genuine,
if you see what I mean, becausethey don't start saying, oh, it
lasts 12 hours, it does.
They don't use that same script.
(20:53):
So there's one guy that I thinkwas a genuine review and he was
kind of like what he was saying.
He was he sort of sprayed itand said it actually smells
quite nice.
He did sort of say similar sortof things that you know, it's
not the most exciting, you knowdifferent.
It's obviously very safefragrance, but it's.
It smells very pleasant and Ithink that's probably as strong
(21:13):
as you're going to get with this.
There's definitely going to besome people that love this
fragrance, I think.
Ryan (21:17):
I agree, I do, I agree.
I think there will be somepeople that like it.
I don't hate this.
It's nice on the card.
It really is nice on the card.
Steve (21:24):
Up for them.
I just looked how much I paidfor it and I paid about 60
pounds total, including delivery, because I got a discount code.
I saved myself 15 pounds.
I don't know what that createsdoing dollars, but I would say
for me here, 60 pounds for ahundred mil.
I think I said in my video.
I said that for this fragranceI'm kind of okay with, but I
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wouldn't want to pay more thanthat.
Myke (21:46):
A hundred yeah.
Steve (21:47):
Yeah, I think that's the limit for me.
I think I wouldn't want to paymore than 60 pounds for this
fragrance a hundred mil, but Ithink that that's what price for
a hundred mil is.
Okay, I can confirm.
Well, for my test knitdefinitely, categorically
doesn't last 12 hours.
That's bullshit.
Ryan (22:03):
Yeah, I could tell you that real quickly.
Steve (22:05):
Yeah, which the thing is.
I said in my YouTube video thatwhat really annoys me is the
performance on.
This isn't actually bad, sothey don't need to sprout this.
12 hours bollocks, right, itdefinitely rains in and it's
quite close, wearing after acouple of hours, but it lasts
six, seven hours at a push ifyou kind of go heavy and stuff.
So which is fine.
Myke (22:25):
That's like a working day.
Steve (22:26):
Yeah yeah, that's plenty.
So they didn't need to bullshitand go like last 12 hours.
If they just said it lasts aworking day, that would have
been sufficient and not bullshit.
You know, that's what reallywell me up.
I got quite angry by video.
I was like it's just needlessbullshit.
Myke (22:43):
Here's a question I have about that, because I'm
rewinding my mind to before Ireally got into fragrances.
Yeah, I can't once ever thinkof going.
I wonder how long thisfragrance lasts.
Never Does this fragrance last10 hours.
I don't remember ever wonderinghow long the fragrance lasts.
Performs one.
Steve (23:03):
You don't put a number on it until you start kind of
sharing, reporting back to thecommunity, as it were.
Like I started doing videos,obviously people know how many
hours it lasts, they want toquantify it and there's so many
factors that can affect that.
I think before I would probablybefore as a sort of frag head,
I would probably spray somecorner in the morning If I
couldn't smell it a few hourslater after a bit annoyed, a bit
(23:24):
I can't really smell myself orwhatever, I wouldn't go.
Only lasted three and a halfhours.
Myke (23:31):
You said a timer on your phone.
Ryan (23:34):
Yeah, we've never like really extensively been like hey
, we put this on at eighto'clock and it's 530.
It lasted forever.
No.
I'm with you too?
I've really never.
I mean, you can just kind oftell when something's going to
smell good and last a little bitRight.
The whole 12 hour jargon.
I guess that's selling pointsto people, I don't know.
Myke (23:52):
I think it's like how long is long enough?
It's never really an issueuntil it's an issue.
I guess you know what I mean.
Like it's never an issue unlessit just really did terrible.
Steve (24:03):
Yeah, you know the thing is, I think, for me personally,
I've always said, if it lasts aworking day like six to seven
hours, I'm happy, because if youwere then going to an event in
the evening, if that was thecase, I would take a fragrance
with me and I would top upbefore I went to the event.
If, like, I was wearing thatfragrance to work and then I was
meeting some people after workfor drinks, I would absolutely
take a fragrance with me to topup because, yeah, which is 100%.
(24:26):
So I don't need it to last 12hours.
I just ideally I want it tolast until I finish my working
day and I can get home or getback to the gym or the shower
room or whatever, so I can topup and freshen up.
That's it.
That's what I need.
Ryan (24:39):
You just single-handedly destroyed big fragrance.
Yeah, trying to chill us withthis 12 hour bullshit, because
that's exactly what any saneindividual does, right, I'm like
man, I'm about to be somewherenice, I've got an extra thing
here.
I'm going to spray it on for awalk in.
I want to mean him.
Every time we do a businessmeeting, we bring a bottle with
this and we're like now we'llput it on for even walking the
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door.
Myke (25:01):
I don't have to have this 12 hour bullshit, right yeah,
our meetings never last thatlong.
Yeah, if I can get a good hourout of this.
We're probably doing prettygood.
Ryan (25:12):
We've literally been like we know this one won't last long
, but it smells good yeah.
Myke (25:17):
Now we'll do it and then open the door.
Hey, fellas.
Steve (25:21):
Yeah.
It's not big.
For me, when you're talkingabout performance, it's more.
I think, where it's more anadvantage?
If you don't need, if it's juststrong, in the sense that you
only need one or two sprays,because then you're getting
value for money, because it'sgoing to last longer, your
bottle's going to last longerFor sure.
You're saving yourself money.
That is when it starts becomingadvantageous, like strength and
performance.
Ryan (25:39):
You guys may have answered this already, but really quick,
price and trend price it's acold dead corpse, okay, but on
the trend.
But on the price it's $89 onthe thing and it's that whole
gimmick.
If you buy two it's cheaper, ifyou buy three.
Myke (25:56):
Oh yeah, who's doing that?
I hate that shit.
Steve (25:59):
Again, that website is shit.
Ryan (26:01):
It is so shit Thank you who does their marketing?
Steve (26:04):
Because it actively put me off their website because
it's so cheap.
It looks like some sort offucking DH gate, she and Temu
type situation it's like oh,who's bulk buying this shit?
Myke (26:17):
Just resell it.
Steve (26:18):
You're going to be like I'm going to get 12 bottles and
sell it to my friends.
Like nobody does that.
So the moment I go on there andthe moment a website does that
whole, oh, 10 hours left.
It's like it puts me off, so itactively put me off buying it,
but, as I say, I fell for itanyway.
Ryan (26:32):
And the other part I remember go ahead, go ahead.
Steve (26:34):
I was just going to say I fell for it.
Once years ago, I was buyinglike a new.
We moved into our house that wewere in.
Now, like years ago, in 2016,and we needed, like I wanted to
get a new bed, like new house,new bed.
I wanted to get like king size.
I was like, and I was likefound this website doing these
beds and it was like 11 o'clockat night and there was a
countdown and I was like, oh myGod, I've only got 49 minutes to
sign on a bed to get thisdiscount, and I was like
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panicking in my wife's bed.
I'm like, oh my God, I'mspending this money.
And then I ordered a bed and Iswear to God, in front of my
eyes it went past like themidnight and the countdown
literally started again.
It literally restarted in frontof my eyes.
I was like you fuckers, you gotme, you got me so valuable life
lesson you learned yeah.
I'd never fall for that shit.
Ryan (27:16):
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to say the brandname here, because I actually
like particular fragrance theyput out.
But their website is also dogshit, or at least it was at the
time and they do the thing wherethere's like there's only six
left, but when you refresh thepage it's like there's 11 left.
It's like a randomly like arandom number generator on it of
(27:36):
all things.
And so Scarcity mindset man,it's.
Myke (27:40):
What was it the FOMO thing we were talking about?
Yeah, I had to educate Ryan onwhat FOMO meant today.
Steve (27:46):
Yeah, I know Favorite missing out on that Exactly, I
should have about it.
Ryan (27:50):
Okay, who is?
I was going to ask this and Igot into probably some trim.
But who do you for real thinkgoes out and loves this so much?
They buy it, they got to wearit.
Who's the kind of person that'sgoing to wear fragrance like
this?
Hmm?
Steve (28:03):
Well, I think you're not going to smell this in store, so
I think it's who's going to buyit.
So who's going to fall for thatmarketing she is and I think,
it's going to be somebody inthere who's like a businessman,
maybe like 30, late 30s, 30s,40s, maybe he was quite
successful middle management andtotally falls for all the
marketing.
He looks at this and goes thisis, this is a fragrance I can
wear today to work.
(28:24):
Women are going to love it, I'mgoing to be attractive, I'm
going to be seen as successful.
It's just that guy that's goingto fall that he's wearing Chino
shirt to work.
It's that guy.
He's not into fragrances, right, he sees the marketing and
believes it and goes I'm goingto buy it and he'll probably
smell this and go yeah, thissmells nice.
He'll probably be quite happywith his purchase.
To be honest, that guy, I agree.
(28:45):
I was going to say a key holder.
Ryan (28:48):
A key holder, my God, nobody knows what that is.
It's just below a manager.
You're just like giving the keyto open up.
They were allowing you enoughto open the door and start
scooping ice cream to servepeople.
Myke (29:00):
They give you the key instead of the promotion and the
raise.
Ryan (29:03):
Exactly yes.
Myke (29:05):
Yeah, I kind of feel like it's one of two.
It's the guy that you'retalking about, steve, or it's
just a young dude that, again,doesn't know much about
fragrances, is on social mediaand it's like this is going to
get you laid, little guy, okay.
Steve (29:20):
When you say young, how young are you saying?
High school Really?
Yeah?
I don't think they're full.
The guys that are in themarketing adverts and the
shilling it a bit older thanthat.
Yeah, that is true.
Myke (29:32):
I don't think they're full for it.
God, there was a dude in likelate fifties and one I saw and
it was like this is he likesprays it on his wife's light
right next to him, or somethingshe's like?
Oh yeah.
Yeah, she starts kneeling down,kneels out of frame.
Steve (29:48):
I think people is going to be non-frag heads who can't
afford a Ventus, are going tosee this as like an Aventus,
like Cologne, that they canafford.
Like they're going to thinkit's the same sort of get the
same effect, same impact as aVentus, but they've beaten the
system.
They fell for the markets andthey've beaten the system.
It's going to yeah, that'sprobably it.
Myke (30:08):
It's going to be quick on it too, because we were
literally talking about doingthis episode.
I open up my laptop and I pullup Instagram just to check the
audio levels.
Before we piped in with you,and it was the first ad that
popped up yeah, yeah, Well, I've.
Steve (30:25):
I'm fucked now because I've just searched to look up
what the notes were forGravitate.
Myke (30:30):
So that's it.
I'm fucked.
Now You'll see it.
Steve (30:32):
It's going to be on my Instagram, on my Facebook.
It's going to be all over theplace again until I start like
keep hiding the adverts again.
Myke (30:39):
So yeah, every time it's like.
Steve (30:41):
It's just like the fucking weird creepy neighbor
that just keeps sticking theirhead over the fence.
That's it.
Myke (30:48):
So here's a question related to who's wearing it.
Steve, you got a full bottle ofthis bad boy.
Are you going to be wearingthis ever?
Steve (30:58):
So I wore this.
I wore this quite a bit, for agood few weeks actually, because
I, as I say, I think it's aperfectly pleasant fragrance and
I was in my YouTube video.
I was talking about as much asI'm into fragrances because of
my day job, where I'm kind of insales, so I'm seeing clients
and customers and things I don'twant to smell challenging.
I don't want to smell of Ood.
(31:18):
I don't want to smell of adonkey's asshole.
I want to smell, mass, appealing, clean.
So all these sort of shower gelfragrances are a really good
daily driver for my sort of dayjob.
So that's why I ended up buyingthis.
I thought I'll give it gobecause I just wanted an
alternative to like the Blur deChanel and the savages and all
that sort of shit.
So I did wear this for quite afew weeks and eventually.
(31:41):
So I got quite a few wearingsout of it and I did wear it a
fair bit and then eventually Iwas just like I like it but I
don't love it.
So why don't I just wear afragrance that I actually love?
I've got like Blur de Chaneland I've got other ones, and
there's another fragrance thatwe'll maybe do another episode
on that I thought I'd love with.
So in the end I thought, oh, Imight just stick it on eBay and
(32:04):
see what I get.
So there was a like an eBaysellers deal on and I stuck it
on eBay as an auction and itended up.
Somebody got into a bidding warand I ended up selling it for
more than I paid for it.
Myke (32:14):
So I actually made a profit on this right.
Okay, patreons, hear that,because we're going to be giving
this away to you on Patreon.
You could end up being a verywealthy individual.
Steve (32:24):
You could.
You could make tens of dollarsout of this right.
Myke (32:30):
No doubt.
Okay, you're going to skip it.
Sample it, oh, by it.
Ryan (32:35):
What are you going to do, steve, after buying it and
selling it on eBay?
Myke (32:40):
You're going to buy it again.
Steve (32:42):
I mean what I would say.
This is a real tough onebecause, like I say, I think for
the right person this is a goodfragrance, I think, but the
probably, if you're listening tothis podcast, you're not that
person.
Myke (32:55):
But if it was.
Steve (32:56):
You know some guy that you're meeting down the office
or whatever.
If you just wanted a dailydriver for work, you might tell
them to sample this, to behonest, because it's a bit
different.
But if you're a frag, if you'rein this community, if you're a
regular listeners, this podcastis it's got a bit of a skip,
isn't it really?
Myke (33:12):
I feel like even at this price in the US 75 bucks even at
this price you can find for 40,50 bucks less challenging great
smelling fragrances around thatprice that are probably better
than this.
Ryan (33:27):
Mont Blanc gets four out the gate for me.
Steve (33:30):
Yes, I mean.
My argument to this is and thisis why I sort of wanted to buy
this is you?
There is a risk that you startsmelling like other people,
though this is the thing.
Like I said, I've got Blur deChanel, I've got the odor
perfume and the perfume version.
Both odor perfume ispractically empty.
There's nothing left.
I've nearly finished theperfume.
I've got a lot of those.
(33:50):
I've finished a bottle of PradaLom.
So a lot of those clean officestyle fragrances because of my
day job.
I've worn, I've used, sosomebody like me, you want
something that's a bit different, so you don't smell like every
other person.
So that's where I try to moveaway from your savages and all
that sort of shit.
But it's hard because themoment you move away from it,
(34:11):
you just smell generic.
Where Blur de Chanel smellsgood, it's a shower gel
fragrance, but it's the bestshower gel fragrance really.
You know it smells very good.
So that's the challenge.
Myke (34:22):
Yeah, I, you know, I never thought of that sort of.
You get the safe, cleangenerics and then you start
smelling overly generic.
So then you look for anothergeneric fragrance that's less
generic because it's lessadopted.
Steve (34:36):
It's a fine line because you want to sell Massapilin but
you want to smell differentMassapilin.
If you don't want to smell, ohhe's really good, and you don't
want to think, oh he smells.
Like the guy that I met lastweek for that other client
meeting.
You know it's like I've been inthat situation where I've stayed
over in a hotel with my workcolleagues.
I've gone down to breakfast,I've sat down and I was like, oh
, I could smell Savage.
I'm like, oh, who's wearingSavage?
(34:57):
And two or three people haveanswered.
Oh, it's me Like at the sametime, literally at the table,
like three people are wearingSavage.
It's like that's, you don'twant to be that guy, do you no?
Myke (35:07):
I don't want to be the guy smelling Savage in general.
Steve (35:10):
Exactly Like you love Prada Luna Ross of Carbon, which
I do as well.
It's a beautiful fragrance, butit does smell like Savage and
like other people, and youprobably don't want to smell
like other people, do you?
Myke (35:21):
So not all the time, but God damn do I love wearing that
occasion Every time you wear it.
Ryan (35:26):
It's amazing.
For me, guys, this is a, thisis an easy skip.
It's.
I feel like Steve, and probablyyou a little bit, but
definitely Steve.
Steve is actually breaking thisdown great and giving it a fair
shot, and I really am trying to.
I'm probably going to be alittle bit biased, but I just
feel like just knowing we can goto drug and porium I can get
some for 40, 50 bucks that Ifeel like would just blow this
(35:47):
out of the water.
This is a little too quiet forme, A little too safe.
It does, to me, smell a littlebit like LaCos red maybe had sex
with Savage.
It smells a little bit likeboth, but it's like really
watered down and even if I couldget this for $40, I would not
get this.
Even if I got it that cheap,I'd be like it's just not worth
that to me Me personally.
Steve (36:08):
Well, I mean you guys, I'd listen to your cool water
episode by Davidoff and that youcan get.
For what did you get it forless than 20 bucks and yeah,
absolutely 16.
Ryan (36:16):
And it's killer.
It blows this out of the waterto me personally.
Myke (36:20):
But it is got its own personality For sure.
This is way more appealing thanthat, I honestly believe, if it
hadn't been for the reallycringy ads and the fact that
it's some company that mainlydoes like face scrubs and shit
like that.
If this was in a differentbottle by a designer and we
smelled it, we may go it's kindof generic but we wouldn't go
(36:42):
like it's a shitty fragrance, wewould just go, hmm, it belongs
on the shelf you know thedepartment store shelf, not my
personal shelf but I think wewould think that like it smells,
like it's a shitty fragranceSmells good.
Yeah, if I try really hard, Ican get a little bit of the
pepper there and a little bit ofthe apple.
But but all in all, yeah, Ithink it's a skip.
Just because it is so genericand I'm thinking about my own
(37:04):
personal collection going, Iprobably wouldn't wear this.
I got two bottles of Luna Russacarbon, so if I want to smell
that type of vibe, I'll wearthat.
I love that fragrance.
It's almost the same price.
We can get a hundred mil bottlefor 80 bucks.
So I would hands down alwaysbuy that over this at the same
price.
But if you can get it at adiscount and you know you're
(37:25):
looking for something, likeSteve is saying, that is less
worn, I don't think it's a badoption.
Steve (37:31):
Hmm, agreed.
Ryan (37:32):
Well, I guess the majority rules on this one, guys.
Steve (37:36):
It smells like Lomal team .
So if you like that fragrance,this might be worth a smell.
Lomal team is better.
It's better quality, it's gotrose and stuff which makes it
more interesting and because ofthe slightly different direction
, but it does smell like that so, which I think is discontinued.
So perhaps if you were a fan ofthat fragrance and you want a
poor man's version of it, assuch, this could be a show.
But yeah, there's other options.
Myke (37:56):
I thought this was going to be really, really bad, and
it's actually.
I'm surprised at how decent itis.
Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan (38:02):
It is definitely decent.
I don't want people tomisconstrue everything I'm
saying like it's not worth it tosomebody, but just for me.
It is a skip, but it's not abad scent.
It is very light, though I feellike it's really dissipating.
A 12 hour claim with me wouldnot be happening with this thing
.
Myke (38:18):
I don't think 12 hours, but I definitely think, yeah,
six to eight hours about youcould get just guessing on my
skin.
It's pretty there and I did twosprays, all right.
Ryan (38:28):
We'll see.
I feel like it's doing whatsomebody like Rajadav would say
is like it's not pulling outlike real strong emotions either
, or it's just riding the linesuper safe.
Myke (38:43):
Yeah, I don't know that saying if it's not a fuck yes,
then it's a fuck no, yeah.
Steve (38:48):
Let's be honest.
Like I said earlier, though,this isn't for the fragrance
community.
Ryan (38:51):
No right.
Steve (38:52):
This fragrance is absolutely never created with
the fragrance community in mind.
Trying to come up withsomething different, interesting
, break the mold, shake up theindustry.
This was 100% designed for the30-somethings scrolling on
Instagram that fall for theseads, I guess myself included.
Myke (39:09):
I guess because I felt ripped but you know, it's such a
bit, you know there was someirony in my purchase.
Steve (39:14):
It's 100% yeah, but yeah, that's 100% who this is.
And, as I say, I think the vastmajority of people that do fall
for the adverts will smell thisand probably be quite pleased
with the purchase.
I think they'll think it smellsnice and they'll be quite happy
with it, and they might evenre-up on it.
To be honest, but the peoplelistening to this podcast, the
(39:35):
vast majority of those people,will not necessarily kind of
enjoy this fragrance as much.
Myke (39:40):
Why ever run out when you could just buy three bottles and
get a discount?
Steve (39:44):
Yeah, basically they're trying to start a pyramid scheme
.
Buy loads of bottles, sell themto your friends.
When they sell them on you,take a cut of it.
It's just a fragrance pyramid.
Let's do that shit.
Ryan (39:57):
Well, let me ask this when you first were sampling this,
did your wife smell it from theother room and just go freaking
nuts on you Like the commercial,Throw you out on the bed.
Steve (40:06):
I heard her panties hit the floor Because they're not
those panties and they're notthese skimpy little lacy numbers
.
So I literally heard the thudand I was like I'm in here.
The chastity belt came off andit was here I heard the padlock
and the chains hit the floor andthey all went.
Ryan (40:29):
I'm in here, anybody listening?
I promise you that will nothappen.
Myke (40:33):
It's okay, I don't know.
I mean, depends on how genericyour wife is.
Okay, well, I think we've gotother fragrances to smell,
ladies and gentlemen, so we'regoing to slide out on this
episode.
But all in all, if I have tosum it up, I'm very shocked that
it's actually decent.
I am shocked it is actuallydecent.
So maybe it's a sample forsomebody to skip for me.
Ryan (40:55):
And Steve, you're saying this is a sample, but it could
be a buy for somebody out therethat has no life.
The answer is no.
Steve (41:05):
No, they want a life.
They want a life.
Myke (41:08):
You buy the fragrance that's called for the market A
life in a bottle.
Ryan (41:12):
Yeah, okay.
Thank you guys for joining thisepisode and thank you, steve
for always stopping in herebringing up some really cool
fragrance stuff.
I feel like we have more funwith him figuring out this shit
than we do with ourselvessometimes.
But thank you so much and untilnext time, everybody Spray it
up, spray it up Yo.
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