February 3, 2020 • 32 mins
This is a Music Video Podcast - or should I say a Podcast about Music Video. One of the biggest songs of 2001had one of the most epic videos. Check out how it was made and all the fascinating behind-the-scenes drama that went into creating this iconic Music Video.
You can see the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQa7SvVCdZk
And you can watch the Making The Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vaD_cF4t3w
Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hello and welcome to the commissioner.
My name is Randy SSON.
This episode is lady Marlo,featuring Christine Aguilera,
pink, Maya, little Kim and MissyElliot.
(00:28):
Um, okay, so this, I guess theyear was, it was 2001.
Um, um, so I actually got, um,this was a music video for the
feature film, Mullan Rouge, uh,directed by BOS Larman and it
was, um, starring you andMcGregor and Nicole Kidman.
(00:50):
Um, amongst many others John legAzama, I'm pretty sure was in
that movie as well.
Um, and I remember, um, thefirst time I heard the VI the
song, it was, uh, probably rightaround Christmas, new year's
right in the first of day, wedidn't shoot the video until
March, but I, the, they had beenmaking the song in recording the
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song for a while.
And, um, the, it was obviouslywhen I was a kid, the label be
version was a big hit.
Um, so I knew the song.
And then, you know, Christinaand pink Maya, Lil Kim, Missy
were all big stars.
So everyone knew the single was,you know, it was something, it
(01:34):
was even when the first time youheard it, it just felt like
something, you know?
Um, but it, the only person thatwas signed to Interscope was
Maya.
So Christina was on, I think RCApink was on Arista.
Lil Kim was on Atlantic Mistywas on Electra.
Um, but I was gonna becommissioning the video.
(01:55):
So, and all the othercommissioners, everyone, you
know, I think it was pretty wellknown in the industry of music
videos that, you know, if yourartist was on a soundtrack on a
different label, then thatperson would do the video.
Um, there were a few exceptionswith people who didn't like to
work with other people, but mostartists were pretty, pretty open
(02:16):
to it.
Um, there wasn't a lot of thatstuff going on most of the time
it was, you know, it was hard toget artists on different labels.
So, um, but this one worked outreally well.
And, um, I immediately had thisthought of a director who, you
know, because of all thedifferent personalities and the
different management teams andthe different, um, you know, all
(02:39):
the people involved, I thoughtof a director who could handle
the big personalities.
And, um, so I took this directorto a screening early on, on the
Fox lot.
Um, and it was pretty, it was,you know, they had assembled the
movie, but it still had bluescreen and stuff, but you could
still tell it was thisincredible movie and the music
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and the way they told the storyand the way they remade songs.
And it was pretty spectacular.
It was a, you know, uh, it wasone of those things even, and
Boz had come to the screeningafterwards and was making, oh,
this isn't ready, that isn'tready.
And, and I understand, likethere were some big holes in the
movie where you could see theywere still working on effects
(03:21):
and this is 2001.
So it was a much more, um,antiquated computer generated
Matt world, even though therewas computers obviously, and
things working, it was just, youknow, almost 20 years ago.
So things have rapidly, uh,increase in post production and
everything has just become amuch more, um, de regur in how
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they do it in the level thatthey do it.
So what he was doing and how hewas doing it while at the time
was cutting edge was still, youknow, in today's world a much
different, uh, animal.
So, um, we saw the movie and,um, it was still a few, few
months away.
This was probably January.
(04:03):
And then finally, as it wasgetting close, the movie was
getting close.
The soundtrack was gettingclose.
The song was done.
Um, we, I had a conference callwith the studio and Christina's
manager and, um, Pink's manager.
And I think Missy, I don't thinkLil Kim and May's management was
(04:25):
on this particular call.
They were involved in a lot ofstuff, but this particular call,
um, but they were, but they hadspoken with them for some reason
they couldn't get on the call,but I remember everyone decided
that they wanted a differentdirector than I had thought.
Um, and I was okay with it.
I thought, you know what?
I think it's the great call aswell.
(04:45):
So everyone decided that theywanted to use Paul Hunter.
Um, and so, you know, I, Ididn't see a problem with Paul.
I've worked with Paul and findhim to be an amazing director.
So I was happy to work with himon this one.
And, you know, um, he's prettycalm and good with artists and I
, who knew you.
I mean, I I'll tell you storiesas we go on, but who knew what
(05:08):
this was gonna be?
It could have been an easypeasy, not easy.
You know, I think this one fellsomewhere in between.
There were some intense moments,but overall it was just, you
know, a lot, it was just a lotof work, but it wasn't a, like a
nightmare video shoot.
Um, so I, um, um, I got withPaul Hunter and we went and
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screened the movie and, um, itwas in a much better place.
Like they had done a lot of workand a lot of the comping was in
there and, and it was still agreat movie.
And you could just tell it wasthis work of art, but, um, Paul
and I kind of sat outsideafterwards and he looked at me,
it was this funny, like helooked at me with this kind of
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grin and almost like who who'sgonna say it first, you know?
And, um, uh, he, he was like, Idon't, that was, he goes, that
movie was incredible.
I think that was cool.
He was like, I don't think wecan use any of the footage
though in the music video.
And I was thinking, I'm like,what?
(06:10):
Like, you know, it was gonna bea very expensive video and Fox
who was, the studio was puttingup half the money, which was
north of$750,000 on their end.
It was a, you know, it ended upbeing a 1.6 million video.
So each side put in, you know,$800,000.
So, you know, for Fox to come upwith$800,000 and, and not have
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their movie in the video waskind of a kind of a thing, but
it wasn't like a no way.
It was just kind of, I, I didagree with him though.
I saw, you know, how incrediblethe movie was, but it was also
with Nicole Kidman and you andMcGregor and John Zamo.
And at the time, um, it was, youknow, it kind of like what it is
(06:54):
today.
Although today there's a littlemore duality and blurred lines
kind of stuff where things don'treally, it's not his thing, but
it just felt like O on MTV, inparticular where this video was
going to play.
And at a time where there wasn'tYouTube and there wasn't access
to video on your phones and allthat stuff, basically you
watched MTV and you saw a videoand that's how you consumed
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music videos.
Um, there weren't a lot ofpeople of that age, you know,
Nicole Kim in youre at the timewere maybe in their early
thirties, I don't know, werethey 20 years ago, maybe late
twenties or early thirties, butthey weren't kids, you know?
Um, and so we were trying tofigure out a way to make it, so
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the dev, it seemed like anyways,that, you know, Christina pink,
Lil Kim Maya, Missy Elliot, werein the movie, um, even though we
weren't gonna use any filmfootage.
So, um, I remember talking to,um, I think it was Jeff Bywater
and Robert Craft were the twoexecutives over at Fox, um, and
(08:02):
explaining to them our thoughtprocess.
And I, you know, Paul was like,you know, basically he left it
to me to deal with this.
Um, but not in a bad way.
He was, you know, onto coming upwith the creative and doing the
thing.
And I mean, I ultimately, Ithink he would've done anything
right.
He loved the song and loved thevideo, but his preference was
(08:23):
not to do film footage.
And, um, so, you know, I thinkbecause the song was so big and,
and the studio was in kind of a,um, this was one of those movies
that, you know, like you justdidn't know, you just like, it
was out of the box.
It was so unique and such a coolthing.
(08:46):
Um, they went for it.
They said, you know what, let'ssee what it looks like.
They, they weren't like, no, noproblem.
They just were like, this is anincredible piece of art.
And, and it was, and it is stillto this day, an amazing piece of
art, the film itself, um, thevideo is an amazing piece of art
as well.
It's just, but it is a musicvideo, you know, it's straight,
(09:06):
straight music video.
Um, I think Thomas KLOS was theDP on this one.
I'm pretty sure he was, I don'tknow.
I have to look that up.
Um, but anyways, Boz wasobviously not happy about it.
He was somewhat insulted.
Um, and he took it personally,which, you know, was, it was
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never meant to be that way atall.
It had done his, he made thisbeautiful work of art movie that
was a standalone piece of art.
Um, and the video was justsupposed to be a video, you
know, to help solve, to getpeople, to go see that piece of
art, um, which ultimately itdid.
And it was, and the single washuge and the video was huge and
it did do that, but, um, we didagree he had these, um, curtains
(09:52):
that he had, you know, used inthe film, um, that we agreed to
fly in from Australia that yousee at the beginning.
And we had to hang them and usethem when Missy says, ladies and
gentlemen, welcome to the moonLA Rouge.
Those are from the actual movie.
Those are things, you know, like, so that was one of the things
like, he was like, okay, fine.
But we have to have like propsfrom the film in the video.
(10:14):
And so we obviously agreed tothat.
So the prep for the video waskind of a big deal.
Um, there was a making of thevideo, so that was a lot of
(10:34):
logistics dealing with MTV.
Um, E so I think we've talkedabout this before, just in the,
the process of making a video,but in particular with, with
artists, um, and definitely withglam artists, male or female,
there's always a hair there'smakeup.
Um, and then depending on theartist, if there's dancing,
(10:54):
there's a choreographer, there'sa stylist, right?
So we made, We had it.
So each artist would have theirown hair makeup person, but we
would have one choreographer cuzthey all had to have one move.
Right?
So Tina Landon was the onechoreographer and Trish
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Summerville was the costumedesigner for everybody.
Um, just so that the look wouldbe consistent.
There was a little bit ofpushback from some of the
artists cuz obviously pink wantsher person and Maya wants their
person and, and you know, likethere's nothing wrong with
wanting your person, but in theend, everyone agreed that Trish
would do it.
And um, she did a great job,obviously, you know, if you look
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at it, you see each artistreally shines through, um, in
their personality and what theywear.
Um, and so yeah, I meanobviously they had their own
entourage and assistance andeverything and trailers and
different stuff like that.
But um, there was basically likefour sets of hair, four or five
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sets of hair, five sets ofmakeup, one stylist, one
choreographer.
Um, and then, uh, that's how wegot ready to shoot.
So the shoot took place over twodays.
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It was March 17th and 18th, 2001, um, in downtown Los Angeles at
the Los Angeles theater.
As I said before, making thevideo was there.
Um, this was, you know, LAdowntown LA now is a, a pretty
vibrant place and there's a lotgoing on there.
(12:45):
It wasn't that way.
In 2001, it was just starting toget somewhat populated again.
Um, the, the theaters were thefirst thing to kind of get
redone, um, and the Los Angelestheater, while it wasn't in
great shape, it was still inpretty good working condition.
Um, and so we were, it had a bigparking lot.
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So we were able to like houseall production out there and
utilize the, the facility itselffor some in-house production and
the grip trucks and all the, youknow, put all that stuff kind of
on site and on the streets.
Um, we started day one.
Um, the first scenes that weshot were the Maya scenes.
We kind of, we tried to shoot itsomewhat sequentially, although
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there was a lot of stuff thathad to get done on the stage
with the girls, um, where eventhough, and it does crescendo in
the video with all four of themon the stage.
And so we, we did do that at theend of the second day, but we
did need to like get stuff donein silhouettes for the first day
and then try and get some stuffon the, the stage, um, all four
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girls by the end of the firstday.
So we started with pink, I meanwith Maya, um, and did her scene
, um, which was great.
She was, you know, on it.
And then we moved on to, um, Ithink it was pink in the BIR.
Um, and then, uh, so, andeveryone had to get there and
get through their hair andmakeup and go through styling
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and do the thing.
And so it was, you know, Mayawas, was good.
It took a while.
It took a minute, but we got it.
Pink was a little bit longer.
Christina took a long time.
It took a long, long time in dayone for her.
Um, as I recall, it was like, ah, I don't know, it was 10 hours
probably, you know, which is along time on a production.
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We didn't need her at the time,but it was still there.
Wasn't a point where shefinished and came out.
Um, there was kind of a big dealand, you know, the making the
video people were really, um,kind of, oh, we gotta get
Christina, you know, we, youknow, we really want Christina
and, and again, I, I don'tcommission videos for Christina
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Aguilera.
Um, so I had very little controlover, you know, how long it took
her to get done or whether ornot she would come out.
Um, so, you know, I went to herteam and talked about it and you
know, they like, like any goodmanagement team.
They were like, she'll come outwhen she's ready to come out.
And um, so eventually like wegot like a 15 minute warning,
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she was gonna come out, youknow, it took, we were kind of
sitting around waiting.
We had shot stuff on the stage,but each person had to do
individual stuff on the mainstage that we would later on
shoot all four of the girlstogether.
Um, so, um, you know, whileyou're waiting around and
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waiting around and waitingaround, you know, people do
things so pink had like, haddone most of her stuff for the
day.
Right.
And I think at, at one point shefi she wrapped, but you know, it
was a cool video and MTV wasthere and it was this big thing.
And, you know, it was for thisbig movie and so no one wanted
to go home.
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Um, and then Christina kind ofcame out of the trailer.
Um, and she, I mean, it waspretty shocking.
It was amazing, but it was kindof shocking.
It definitely was not thetypical genie in a bottle,
Christina Aguilera type thing.
Like she had this frizzy hair,it was almost like twisted
sister kind of thing where she,um, uh, had like her hair was
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teased out and her makeup wasreally extreme.
Um, and so, so it was a thing,right.
And everyone was, you know, itwasn't there wasn't, it wasn't
like anyone needed approval andno one had seen pictures of it
before, but it was took a minutefor everyone to get adjusted to
it.
Um, and so finally we getChristina to get, you know, on
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stage and we're doing some stuffand, um, you know, it takes a,
it takes a minute like firstcouple takes it's, you're
warming up and you're doing, andyou're fix figuring it out and
this needs to be louder.
And you're the dance move youmet?
You know, like I like anything,like no one comes on and does
things perfectly.
And so pink had been sittingnext to Paul and she had a, you
know, a couple drinks in her andI think it was like the third or
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fourth take.
And, you know, Paul was, youknow, okay, that was great.
Like, let this time, why don'tyou try and do it with this and
maybe lean a little bit moreand, and pink started yelling
out some, um, comments.
And I, I, I just thought it wasfunny and she was kind of
playing up for the cameras forMTV, um, cuz they were there
filming.
Um, and uh, you know, I didn'thonestly think anything of it,
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but it did not play well withChristina in her camp.
Um, so I like we did it for alittle bit more and pink was
doing it and kind of, you know,um, playing to the camera and
doing fun things with making thevideo and pretending to be the
director.
Um, and then, you know, we, wehad about, I don't know, 45
minutes left to that, you know,for in our day.
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And we had a bunch of stuff toshoot with Christina and um, we
shot this one.
Good, pretty good performance,you know, and we're starting, we
were finally starting to getsomewhere where it was like,
okay, now we got a thing andeverything's gonna be fine.
And like there's a vibe and wegot the techno cream going in
the right, making the rightmoves and she's hitting the mark
and then the lights are workingand the posy is, and um, we, you
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know, we finished the thing wehit cut and Christina just
literally walked off stage,walked outta the arena.
And then, and that, that was it.
Like I was, and I'm like, oh,what happened?
You know, maybe she had to,maybe she had to use the
restroom um, but thatwasn't the case.
She was just had had it with thepink thing and just was
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like, I will not be taking to,you know, didn't say anything to
me.
Um, she just laughed and thenher team came well, somebody
from her management team came upand said, cuz Irving a as
officer manager and he had gone,the Eagles were actually
playing.
I think it was the hell freezesover tour.
They were playing the staplecenter that night.
So he was there earlier.
He, they had a team people thatdid, you know, did her day to
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day thing.
Um, and he left.
And so somebody from her teamcame up and said, she's not,
she's not coming back liketoday.
And she may not come backtomorrow.
She's not happy with the waythis old production's going.
And she does not like to be toldby another artist what to do.
And so then I was like, oh,okay.
Um, nobody said anything.
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I'm so sorry.
I will, I will definitely makesure that doesn't happen again.
And they, they were pretty, Idon't wanna say smog, but you
know, they were definitely nothappy.
And they were letting me knowthat like there may not be a
video tomorrow.
So just, and then my, um, thisis 2001.
So there was, you know, back inthe day before the smartphones,
there were, you had a cell phone, which is the thing, but then
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we, there was that Motorola twoway pager.
That was kind of the, the thingeveryone used in the business.
And so I got a text from Irvingthat basically said, um, good
luck with your shoot tomorrow.
We won't be coming back.
And I'm like, oh no, it was justa misunderstanding.
And you know, not, he didn'trespond.
(20:13):
He was basically just saying,you.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Um,
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah.
So I called Craig Logan And he,he totally got it.
He was not, you know, trying todo anything other than like,
Hey, listen, she, pink was in areally good mood and she meant
nothing by it.
And I am so sorry and she is,feels terrible and this is not,
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you know, so, um, I said,listen, I get it.
Any help you can do in helping,you know, talk to Irving and,
and Christina's team to let themknow that that wasn't the case,
you know, would be appreciated.
And so, um, they did and, andyou know, they didn't Irving and
people said, we'll see, youknow, like let it sit for
tonight.
We'll see.
Tomorrow the MTV people had leftalready when this all went down
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and they were like, you know, oh, I heard something I heard,
we're not having a videotomorrow.
I'm like, I don't know whatyou're talking about, but you
did miss some fun things and youshould have been here.
And then they were like, yeah,we probably couldn't use it
anyway.
So, but anyways, we show up thenext day.
Um, and you know, everyone's alittle panicked, you know, um,
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we knew we had, uh, we had, wehad planned to origin, like, you
know, um, only have Missy therefor one day, cuz she really is
just in the beginning of thevideo.
Right.
She says ladies and gentle, well, welcome to the Mulan Rouge.
She produced the track, butshe's not really on the track.
Um, so we had just planned tohave Missy there for, you know,
five hours cuz, and she wasreally busy, so it worked out
fine.
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So, you know, we all show up forday two.
Everyone's kind of whatever.
I, um, I think I remember, youknow, making sure that we got
some flowers and then, um, pinkhad actually had flowers sent as
well to everybody apologizingand saying so sorry, I was outta
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hand last night, which was asuper classy move, you know?
Um, and then, um, Missy showedup and we got her on the MTV
thing and you know, just kind ofevery, you know, for me putting,
putting a brave face forward.
Um, um, and then eventually Igot a call like, I don't know,
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probably 15, 20 minutes beforeChristina showed up that, that
she would in fact be there, thatshe was gonna try, she was gonna
come today.
You know, she was late, but shewas gonna come and that there
can't be any more of that kindof, you know?
And I was, I, you know, totallysaid, of course not, sorry, I,
again, you know, like, didn'tknow, had you told me there was
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an issue I would've taken careof it earlier.
And so there was kind of like a,a uh, uh, everyone understood
what was gonna go on.
And there was a little bit of athing and um, and you know,
whatever she wanted, you know,she had a, she had a pretty, she
had a pretty big entourage, so,um, she wanted, I don't some
video games and stuff.
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So we were like, yes, yes, yes,of course.
Just come, please come, come,come, come, come.
And so, um, she did and she wasmuch faster because I think they
had made a lot of creativedecisions on day one.
So, um, we got her out andfilming and we got everyone on
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stage and they were all nice toone another.
And then we did the, and theneveryone showed up, like Irving
showed up and Jimmy showed upand Jim Polis who at the time
was the chairman of Fox studioshowed up.
And then we did the whole fall,four of them doing the dance
routine and the confetti.
And so it, it, it all actuallywent really, really well once we
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got everyone there and working.
Um, and, um, and then we, um,, um, we wrapped,
we wrapped on time, as I recall,as I recall, we wrapped on time.
Um, and everything went was,was, was in the end.
Everything was good.
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Everyone like Christina did agreat, if you see them making
the video, you'll see.
She was, she was a much more ina much better mood on day two.
Um, and, um, everyone was in apretty good place.
Um, so, and you, you would neverknow any of this, if you watched
them making the video, it justlooks like everyone showed up
and it was perfect, you know,which is kind of what they do.
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And I, I respect them for that.
You know, it's probably, that'swhy they make podcasts now, so
we can tell you the real story.
Um, but yeah, everything was, uh, every, we did, like I said, it
was late night, but we did wrapon time as I, Yeah.
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So we got to the tele city, um,there, as I recall, there was a
little bit of talk again aboutlike, Hey, are you sure you
don't wanna put film footage inthis?
And Paul was obviously veryadamant about it and I backed
him up completely.
And we said, no, cuz the footagelooked amazing.
Um, and then as I recall, um, wegot a cut, it took a couple days
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extra.
It took a while.
Um, but when we got the cut, Iremember putting it in.
I was nervous obviously, but I,you know, usually I, you know,
would get a cut and something ofthis size, it would be like,
make my changes and then showit.
Um, but it was, it was prettyclose.
There was there like they did agreat job with the edit.
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Um, I, I don't know the editor,maybe you'd have to talk to
Paul, but um, I don't rememberDustin Robertson did it maybe, I
don't know whatever it was.
It was a really good first cut.
Um, and so, you know, we madecopy, sent it out to everyone.
Um, people had some vanitychanges from the artist, but for
the most part, the, the, wherethings were stayed, where they
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were maybe this type of shot orthe close up or far away stayed
where there was one little issue, um, where Christina does the
ad lib during Lil Kim's verse.
And you know, they were, theydidn't wa like Kim's camp.
I, they called didn't want thatin there.
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Um, but Christina's camp reallydid.
Um, and if you watch the video,you can see that Christina did
win out on that one that can LilKim, they weren't mad.
I think they were just morelike, how come she's encroaching
on this section, but when youwatch the video now, 18, 19
years later, you see why,because it's like, she says that
line and it's the first time youreally see her in a close up of
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a performance.
Um, so it, you know, it wasn't,it wasn't strictly vanity.
It was for a conceptualintroduction of the artist into
the video performance part ofit.
Um, but yeah, I remember, youknow, like we did some things,
we did some beauty work, um, andthen delivered the video.
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Um, and it was one of that was,this was another one of those
videos that it just, it justclicked.
It worked, the song worked, thevideo worked, it helped sell
soundtracks.
It helped sell tickets to themovie.
The movie did well for a moviethat in today's world, I don't
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know.
I don't know what it would do.
I'm not saying it wouldn't dowell.
It just wouldn't be a nobrainer.
Um, you know, because it's notthe straight, although it is a
movie content, you know, likeright now, rocket man's a big
hit and Bohemian Rhapsody wasjust a big hit last year with a
star was born being something sothat, you know, Mo movies with
music.
But this is more of like aspecific musical based on time.
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And I'm not saying you couldn'tdo it, but it was it, uh, I
don't know, whatever it is, itdid work, you know, um, the
video, like I said, went intoheavy rotation on MTV.
It, it was, um, it won two VMAs,right?
It won video of the year, um, in2001 and best video.
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Um, and then, um, I think italso won best video from a film.
It was nominated for like six.
It was like nominated for bestdance, best pop, best
choreography, best artdirection.
Um, it didn't win all those, butI, I think it won.
Yeah, it won definitely video ofthe year and best video from a
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film.
So I know it won two.
I saw recently that ed Sherinwas wanting to remake the video
with Bruno Mars and JustinBieber, um, which I think would
be an amazing idea.
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Um, I would love to see that I'mnot sure that it works or that
it is a thing, but just becauseI work so hard on this video and
, um, you know, I love the song.
I think the song's a great song,so it would be fun to see.
Um, but yeah, this was, this wasone of those videos that at the
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time, um, you knew it wasspecial.
And now looking back on it some18, 19 years later, it wa it was
special and it was a moment intime and we did do some pretty,
pretty amazing things.
Um, I, I won't tell you thatcinematically, it was like
groundbreaking because I, I will, I, I wouldn't kill myself and
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it wasn't supposed to be, youknow, like the film itself was
the video was, you know, had areal purpose and that was to
showcase the girls and the songand the, the sexuality and
sensuality of the Mulan Rouge,because ultimately it is about a
prostitute and a John and astory.
And, um, so there is sensualityand sexuality and lustfulness
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and everything, and trying to dothat in a, you know, some at the
time somewhat, you know, modern,um, twist wi but, but it also
having the, you know, the MuongRouge era vibe so that there was
the BIR and the co theier, um,you know, like just trying to
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get, get all that.
And so it was definitely a, aart piece, a beauty piece with
that needed to have, um, youknow, some rhythm and, and
movement.
And Paul did an amazing job atthat, you know, not, and that,
I'm not saying it in a bad way.
It was, it wasn't supposed to bean art piece or, you know, some
sort of Kubrick ode to likecinema it, it was beautifully
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shot and beautifullychoreographer, choreo,
choreographed.
Yeah.
Beautifully shot, be beautifullychoreographed, incredibly
edited, you know, like all the,like a plus for everything.
Um, and that's why it holds atest of time.
Go watch the video.
You should watch it.
It's in the link.
Um, or if not, just, um, go ontoYouTube and check it out.
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It really is.
Um, it really is something andsomething I'm proud of.
So that brings us to the end ofepisode, three lady Marlo,
featuring Christina Aguilera,pink Maya, Lil Kim, miss Elliot.
Hope you enjoyed it.
Um, I, uh, enjoyed taking a ridedown the, uh, memory old memory
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lane.
Um, just listening back to someof the stuff I recorded.
I guess the word is corset.
You know, I couldn't figure outwhat I was saying, but it was
corset is what I wanted to say.
That's it?
My name is Randy Sason.
This is the commissioner.
Thank you for listening.
Um, as always, I'll leave youwith this turning up.
The volume is like zooming in,but with sound.
Hello and welcome to the commissioner.
My name is Randy SSON.
This episode is lady Marlo,featuring Christine Aguilera,
pink, Maya, little Kim and MissyElliot.
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Um, okay, so this, I guess theyear was, it was 2001.
Um, um, so I actually got, um,this was a music video for the
feature film, Mullan Rouge, uh,directed by BOS Larman and it
was, um, starring you andMcGregor and Nicole Kidman.
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Um, amongst many others John legAzama, I'm pretty sure was in
that movie as well.
Um, and I remember, um, thefirst time I heard the VI the
song, it was, uh, probably rightaround Christmas, new year's
right in the first of day, wedidn't shoot the video until
March, but I, the, they had beenmaking the song in recording the
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song for a while.
And, um, the, it was obviouslywhen I was a kid, the label be
version was a big hit.
Um, so I knew the song.
And then, you know, Christinaand pink Maya, Lil Kim, Missy
were all big stars.
So everyone knew the single was,you know, it was something, it
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was even when the first time youheard it, it just felt like
something, you know?
Um, but it, the only person thatwas signed to Interscope was
Maya.
So Christina was on, I think RCApink was on Arista.
Lil Kim was on Atlantic Mistywas on Electra.
Um, but I was gonna becommissioning the video.
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So, and all the othercommissioners, everyone, you
know, I think it was pretty wellknown in the industry of music
videos that, you know, if yourartist was on a soundtrack on a
different label, then thatperson would do the video.
Um, there were a few exceptionswith people who didn't like to
work with other people, but mostartists were pretty, pretty open
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to it.
Um, there wasn't a lot of thatstuff going on most of the time
it was, you know, it was hard toget artists on different labels.
So, um, but this one worked outreally well.
And, um, I immediately had thisthought of a director who, you
know, because of all thedifferent personalities and the
different management teams andthe different, um, you know, all
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the people involved, I thoughtof a director who could handle
the big personalities.
And, um, so I took this directorto a screening early on, on the
Fox lot.
Um, and it was pretty, it was,you know, they had assembled the
movie, but it still had bluescreen and stuff, but you could
still tell it was thisincredible movie and the music
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and the way they told the storyand the way they remade songs.
And it was pretty spectacular.
It was a, you know, uh, it wasone of those things even, and
Boz had come to the screeningafterwards and was making, oh,
this isn't ready, that isn'tready.
And, and I understand, likethere were some big holes in the
movie where you could see theywere still working on effects
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and this is 2001.
So it was a much more, um,antiquated computer generated
Matt world, even though therewas computers obviously, and
things working, it was just, youknow, almost 20 years ago.
So things have rapidly, uh,increase in post production and
everything has just become amuch more, um, de regur in how
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they do it in the level thatthey do it.
So what he was doing and how hewas doing it while at the time
was cutting edge was still, youknow, in today's world a much
different, uh, animal.
So, um, we saw the movie and,um, it was still a few, few
months away.
This was probably January.
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And then finally, as it wasgetting close, the movie was
getting close.
The soundtrack was gettingclose.
The song was done.
Um, we, I had a conference callwith the studio and Christina's
manager and, um, Pink's manager.
And I think Missy, I don't thinkLil Kim and May's management was
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on this particular call.
They were involved in a lot ofstuff, but this particular call,
um, but they were, but they hadspoken with them for some reason
they couldn't get on the call,but I remember everyone decided
that they wanted a differentdirector than I had thought.
Um, and I was okay with it.
I thought, you know what?
I think it's the great call aswell.
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So everyone decided that theywanted to use Paul Hunter.
Um, and so, you know, I, Ididn't see a problem with Paul.
I've worked with Paul and findhim to be an amazing director.
So I was happy to work with himon this one.
And, you know, um, he's prettycalm and good with artists and I
, who knew you.
I mean, I I'll tell you storiesas we go on, but who knew what
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this was gonna be?
It could have been an easypeasy, not easy.
You know, I think this one fellsomewhere in between.
There were some intense moments,but overall it was just, you
know, a lot, it was just a lotof work, but it wasn't a, like a
nightmare video shoot.
Um, so I, um, um, I got withPaul Hunter and we went and
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screened the movie and, um, itwas in a much better place.
Like they had done a lot of workand a lot of the comping was in
there and, and it was still agreat movie.
And you could just tell it wasthis work of art, but, um, Paul
and I kind of sat outsideafterwards and he looked at me,
it was this funny, like helooked at me with this kind of
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grin and almost like who who'sgonna say it first, you know?
And, um, uh, he, he was like, Idon't, that was, he goes, that
movie was incredible.
I think that was cool.
He was like, I don't think wecan use any of the footage
though in the music video.
And I was thinking, I'm like,what?
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Like, you know, it was gonna bea very expensive video and Fox
who was, the studio was puttingup half the money, which was
north of$750,000 on their end.
It was a, you know, it ended upbeing a 1.6 million video.
So each side put in, you know,$800,000.
So, you know, for Fox to come upwith$800,000 and, and not have
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their movie in the video waskind of a kind of a thing, but
it wasn't like a no way.
It was just kind of, I, I didagree with him though.
I saw, you know, how incrediblethe movie was, but it was also
with Nicole Kidman and you andMcGregor and John Zamo.
And at the time, um, it was, youknow, it kind of like what it is
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today.
Although today there's a littlemore duality and blurred lines
kind of stuff where things don'treally, it's not his thing, but
it just felt like O on MTV, inparticular where this video was
going to play.
And at a time where there wasn'tYouTube and there wasn't access
to video on your phones and allthat stuff, basically you
watched MTV and you saw a videoand that's how you consumed
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music videos.
Um, there weren't a lot ofpeople of that age, you know,
Nicole Kim in youre at the timewere maybe in their early
thirties, I don't know, werethey 20 years ago, maybe late
twenties or early thirties, butthey weren't kids, you know?
Um, and so we were trying tofigure out a way to make it, so
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the dev, it seemed like anyways,that, you know, Christina pink,
Lil Kim Maya, Missy Elliot, werein the movie, um, even though we
weren't gonna use any filmfootage.
So, um, I remember talking to,um, I think it was Jeff Bywater
and Robert Craft were the twoexecutives over at Fox, um, and
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explaining to them our thoughtprocess.
And I, you know, Paul was like,you know, basically he left it
to me to deal with this.
Um, but not in a bad way.
He was, you know, onto coming upwith the creative and doing the
thing.
And I mean, I ultimately, Ithink he would've done anything
right.
He loved the song and loved thevideo, but his preference was
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not to do film footage.
And, um, so, you know, I thinkbecause the song was so big and,
and the studio was in kind of a,um, this was one of those movies
that, you know, like you justdidn't know, you just like, it
was out of the box.
It was so unique and such a coolthing.
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Um, they went for it.
They said, you know what, let'ssee what it looks like.
They, they weren't like, no, noproblem.
They just were like, this is anincredible piece of art.
And, and it was, and it is stillto this day, an amazing piece of
art, the film itself, um, thevideo is an amazing piece of art
as well.
It's just, but it is a musicvideo, you know, it's straight,
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straight music video.
Um, I think Thomas KLOS was theDP on this one.
I'm pretty sure he was, I don'tknow.
I have to look that up.
Um, but anyways, Boz wasobviously not happy about it.
He was somewhat insulted.
Um, and he took it personally,which, you know, was, it was
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never meant to be that way atall.
It had done his, he made thisbeautiful work of art movie that
was a standalone piece of art.
Um, and the video was justsupposed to be a video, you
know, to help solve, to getpeople, to go see that piece of
art, um, which ultimately itdid.
And it was, and the single washuge and the video was huge and
it did do that, but, um, we didagree he had these, um, curtains
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that he had, you know, used inthe film, um, that we agreed to
fly in from Australia that yousee at the beginning.
And we had to hang them and usethem when Missy says, ladies and
gentlemen, welcome to the moonLA Rouge.
Those are from the actual movie.
Those are things, you know, like, so that was one of the things
like, he was like, okay, fine.
But we have to have like propsfrom the film in the video.
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And so we obviously agreed tothat.
So the prep for the video waskind of a big deal.
Um, there was a making of thevideo, so that was a lot of
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logistics dealing with MTV.
Um, E so I think we've talkedabout this before, just in the,
the process of making a video,but in particular with, with
artists, um, and definitely withglam artists, male or female,
there's always a hair there'smakeup.
Um, and then depending on theartist, if there's dancing,
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there's a choreographer, there'sa stylist, right?
So we made, We had it.
So each artist would have theirown hair makeup person, but we
would have one choreographer cuzthey all had to have one move.
Right?
So Tina Landon was the onechoreographer and Trish
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Summerville was the costumedesigner for everybody.
Um, just so that the look wouldbe consistent.
There was a little bit ofpushback from some of the
artists cuz obviously pink wantsher person and Maya wants their
person and, and you know, likethere's nothing wrong with
wanting your person, but in theend, everyone agreed that Trish
would do it.
And um, she did a great job,obviously, you know, if you look
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at it, you see each artistreally shines through, um, in
their personality and what theywear.
Um, and so yeah, I meanobviously they had their own
entourage and assistance andeverything and trailers and
different stuff like that.
But um, there was basically likefour sets of hair, four or five
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sets of hair, five sets ofmakeup, one stylist, one
choreographer.
Um, and then, uh, that's how wegot ready to shoot.
So the shoot took place over twodays.
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It was March 17th and 18th, 2001, um, in downtown Los Angeles at
the Los Angeles theater.
As I said before, making thevideo was there.
Um, this was, you know, LAdowntown LA now is a, a pretty
vibrant place and there's a lotgoing on there.
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It wasn't that way.
In 2001, it was just starting toget somewhat populated again.
Um, the, the theaters were thefirst thing to kind of get
redone, um, and the Los Angelestheater, while it wasn't in
great shape, it was still inpretty good working condition.
Um, and so we were, it had a bigparking lot.
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So we were able to like houseall production out there and
utilize the, the facility itselffor some in-house production and
the grip trucks and all the, youknow, put all that stuff kind of
on site and on the streets.
Um, we started day one.
Um, the first scenes that weshot were the Maya scenes.
We kind of, we tried to shoot itsomewhat sequentially, although
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there was a lot of stuff thathad to get done on the stage
with the girls, um, where eventhough, and it does crescendo in
the video with all four of themon the stage.
And so we, we did do that at theend of the second day, but we
did need to like get stuff donein silhouettes for the first day
and then try and get some stuffon the, the stage, um, all four
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girls by the end of the firstday.
So we started with pink, I meanwith Maya, um, and did her scene
, um, which was great.
She was, you know, on it.
And then we moved on to, um, Ithink it was pink in the BIR.
Um, and then, uh, so, andeveryone had to get there and
get through their hair andmakeup and go through styling
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and do the thing.
And so it was, you know, Mayawas, was good.
It took a while.
It took a minute, but we got it.
Pink was a little bit longer.
Christina took a long time.
It took a long, long time in dayone for her.
Um, as I recall, it was like, ah, I don't know, it was 10 hours
probably, you know, which is along time on a production.
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We didn't need her at the time,but it was still there.
Wasn't a point where shefinished and came out.
Um, there was kind of a big dealand, you know, the making the
video people were really, um,kind of, oh, we gotta get
Christina, you know, we, youknow, we really want Christina
and, and again, I, I don'tcommission videos for Christina
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Aguilera.
Um, so I had very little controlover, you know, how long it took
her to get done or whether ornot she would come out.
Um, so, you know, I went to herteam and talked about it and you
know, they like, like any goodmanagement team.
They were like, she'll come outwhen she's ready to come out.
And um, so eventually like wegot like a 15 minute warning,
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she was gonna come out, youknow, it took, we were kind of
sitting around waiting.
We had shot stuff on the stage,but each person had to do
individual stuff on the mainstage that we would later on
shoot all four of the girlstogether.
Um, so, um, you know, whileyou're waiting around and
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waiting around and waitingaround, you know, people do
things so pink had like, haddone most of her stuff for the
day.
Right.
And I think at, at one point shefi she wrapped, but you know, it
was a cool video and MTV wasthere and it was this big thing.
And, you know, it was for thisbig movie and so no one wanted
to go home.
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Um, and then Christina kind ofcame out of the trailer.
Um, and she, I mean, it waspretty shocking.
It was amazing, but it was kindof shocking.
It definitely was not thetypical genie in a bottle,
Christina Aguilera type thing.
Like she had this frizzy hair,it was almost like twisted
sister kind of thing where she,um, uh, had like her hair was
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teased out and her makeup wasreally extreme.
Um, and so, so it was a thing,right.
And everyone was, you know, itwasn't there wasn't, it wasn't
like anyone needed approval andno one had seen pictures of it
before, but it was took a minutefor everyone to get adjusted to
it.
Um, and so finally we getChristina to get, you know, on
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stage and we're doing some stuffand, um, you know, it takes a,
it takes a minute like firstcouple takes it's, you're
warming up and you're doing, andyou're fix figuring it out and
this needs to be louder.
And you're the dance move youmet?
You know, like I like anything,like no one comes on and does
things perfectly.
And so pink had been sittingnext to Paul and she had a, you
know, a couple drinks in her andI think it was like the third or
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fourth take.
And, you know, Paul was, youknow, okay, that was great.
Like, let this time, why don'tyou try and do it with this and
maybe lean a little bit moreand, and pink started yelling
out some, um, comments.
And I, I, I just thought it wasfunny and she was kind of
playing up for the cameras forMTV, um, cuz they were there
filming.
Um, and uh, you know, I didn'thonestly think anything of it,
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but it did not play well withChristina in her camp.
Um, so I like we did it for alittle bit more and pink was
doing it and kind of, you know,um, playing to the camera and
doing fun things with making thevideo and pretending to be the
director.
Um, and then, you know, we, wehad about, I don't know, 45
minutes left to that, you know,for in our day.
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And we had a bunch of stuff toshoot with Christina and um, we
shot this one.
Good, pretty good performance,you know, and we're starting, we
were finally starting to getsomewhere where it was like,
okay, now we got a thing andeverything's gonna be fine.
And like there's a vibe and wegot the techno cream going in
the right, making the rightmoves and she's hitting the mark
and then the lights are workingand the posy is, and um, we, you
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know, we finished the thing wehit cut and Christina just
literally walked off stage,walked outta the arena.
And then, and that, that was it.
Like I was, and I'm like, oh,what happened?
You know, maybe she had to,maybe she had to use the
restroom
She was just had had it with thepink thing
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like, I will not be taking to,you know, didn't say anything to
me.
Um, she just laughed and thenher team came well, somebody
from her management team came upand said, cuz Irving a as
officer manager and he had gone,the Eagles were actually
playing.
I think it was the hell freezesover tour.
They were playing the staplecenter that night.
So he was there earlier.
He, they had a team people thatdid, you know, did her day to
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day thing.
Um, and he left.
And so somebody from her teamcame up and said, she's not,
she's not coming back liketoday.
And she may not come backtomorrow.
She's not happy with the waythis old production's going.
And she does not like to be toldby another artist what to do.
And so then I was like, oh,okay.
Um, nobody said anything.
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I'm so sorry.
I will, I will definitely makesure that doesn't happen again.
And they, they were pretty, Idon't wanna say smog, but you
know, they were definitely nothappy.
And they were letting me knowthat like there may not be a
video tomorrow.
So just, and then my, um, thisis 2001.
So there was, you know, back inthe day before the smartphones,
there were, you had a cell phone, which is the thing, but then
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we, there was that Motorola twoway pager.
That was kind of the, the thingeveryone used in the business.
And so I got a text from Irvingthat basically said, um, good
luck with your shoot tomorrow.
We won't be coming back.
And I'm like, oh no, it was justa misunderstanding.
And you know, not, he didn'trespond.
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He was basically just saying,you.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Um,
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah.
So I called Craig Logan And he,he totally got it.
He was not, you know, trying todo anything other than like,
Hey, listen, she, pink was in areally good mood and she meant
nothing by it.
And I am so sorry and she is,feels terrible and this is not,
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you know, so, um, I said,listen, I get it.
Any help you can do in helping,you know, talk to Irving and,
and Christina's team to let themknow that that wasn't the case,
you know, would be appreciated.
And so, um, they did and, andyou know, they didn't Irving and
people said, we'll see, youknow, like let it sit for
tonight.
We'll see.
Tomorrow the MTV people had leftalready when this all went down
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and they were like, you know, oh, I heard something I heard,
we're not having a videotomorrow.
I'm like, I don't know whatyou're talking about, but you
did miss some fun things and youshould have been here.
And then they were like, yeah,we probably couldn't use it
anyway.
So, but anyways, we show up thenext day.
Um, and you know, everyone's alittle panicked, you know, um,
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we knew we had, uh, we had, wehad planned to origin, like, you
know, um, only have Missy therefor one day, cuz she really is
just in the beginning of thevideo.
Right.
She says ladies and gentle, well, welcome to the Mulan Rouge.
She produced the track, butshe's not really on the track.
Um, so we had just planned tohave Missy there for, you know,
five hours cuz, and she wasreally busy, so it worked out
fine.
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So, you know, we all show up forday two.
Everyone's kind of whatever.
I, um, I think I remember, youknow, making sure that we got
some flowers and then, um, pinkhad actually had flowers sent as
well to everybody apologizingand saying so sorry, I was outta
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hand last night, which was asuper classy move, you know?
Um, and then, um, Missy showedup and we got her on the MTV
thing and you know, just kind ofevery, you know, for me putting,
putting a brave face forward.
Um, um, and then eventually Igot a call like, I don't know,
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probably 15, 20 minutes beforeChristina showed up that, that
she would in fact be there, thatshe was gonna try, she was gonna
come today.
You know, she was late, but shewas gonna come and that there
can't be any more of that kindof, you know?
And I was, I, you know, totallysaid, of course not, sorry, I,
again, you know, like, didn'tknow, had you told me there was
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an issue I would've taken careof it earlier.
And so there was kind of like a,a uh, uh, everyone understood
what was gonna go on.
And there was a little bit of athing and um, and you know,
whatever she wanted, you know,she had a, she had a pretty, she
had a pretty big entourage, so,um, she wanted, I don't some
video games and stuff.
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So we were like, yes, yes, yes,of course.
Just come, please come, come,come, come, come.
And so, um, she did and she wasmuch faster because I think they
had made a lot of creativedecisions on day one.
So, um, we got her out andfilming and we got everyone on
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stage and they were all nice toone another.
And then we did the, and theneveryone showed up, like Irving
showed up and Jimmy showed upand Jim Polis who at the time
was the chairman of Fox studioshowed up.
And then we did the whole fall,four of them doing the dance
routine and the confetti.
And so it, it, it all actuallywent really, really well once we
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got everyone there and working.
Um, and, um, and then we, um,
we wrapped on time, as I recall,as I recall, we wrapped on time.
Um, and everything went was,was, was in the end.
Everything was good.
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Everyone like Christina did agreat, if you see them making
the video, you'll see.
She was, she was a much more ina much better mood on day two.
Um, and, um, everyone was in apretty good place.
Um, so, and you, you would neverknow any of this, if you watched
them making the video, it justlooks like everyone showed up
and it was perfect, you know,which is kind of what they do.
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And I, I respect them for that.
You know, it's probably, that'swhy they make podcasts now, so
we can tell you the real story.
Um, but yeah, everything was, uh, every, we did, like I said, it
was late night, but we did wrapon time as I, Yeah.
(25:05):
So we got to the tele city, um,there, as I recall, there was a
little bit of talk again aboutlike, Hey, are you sure you
don't wanna put film footage inthis?
And Paul was obviously veryadamant about it and I backed
him up completely.
And we said, no, cuz the footagelooked amazing.
Um, and then as I recall, um, wegot a cut, it took a couple days
(25:29):
extra.
It took a while.
Um, but when we got the cut, Iremember putting it in.
I was nervous obviously, but I,you know, usually I, you know,
would get a cut and something ofthis size, it would be like,
make my changes and then showit.
Um, but it was, it was prettyclose.
There was there like they did agreat job with the edit.
(25:51):
Um, I, I don't know the editor,maybe you'd have to talk to
Paul, but um, I don't rememberDustin Robertson did it maybe, I
don't know whatever it was.
It was a really good first cut.
Um, and so, you know, we madecopy, sent it out to everyone.
Um, people had some vanitychanges from the artist, but for
the most part, the, the, wherethings were stayed, where they
(26:15):
were maybe this type of shot orthe close up or far away stayed
where there was one little issue, um, where Christina does the
ad lib during Lil Kim's verse.
And you know, they were, theydidn't wa like Kim's camp.
I, they called didn't want thatin there.
(26:38):
Um, but Christina's camp reallydid.
Um, and if you watch the video,you can see that Christina did
win out on that one that can LilKim, they weren't mad.
I think they were just morelike, how come she's encroaching
on this section, but when youwatch the video now, 18, 19
years later, you see why,because it's like, she says that
line and it's the first time youreally see her in a close up of
(26:59):
a performance.
Um, so it, you know, it wasn't,it wasn't strictly vanity.
It was for a conceptualintroduction of the artist into
the video performance part ofit.
Um, but yeah, I remember, youknow, like we did some things,
we did some beauty work, um, andthen delivered the video.
(27:21):
Um, and it was one of that was,this was another one of those
videos that it just, it justclicked.
It worked, the song worked, thevideo worked, it helped sell
soundtracks.
It helped sell tickets to themovie.
The movie did well for a moviethat in today's world, I don't
(27:42):
know.
I don't know what it would do.
I'm not saying it wouldn't dowell.
It just wouldn't be a nobrainer.
Um, you know, because it's notthe straight, although it is a
movie content, you know, likeright now, rocket man's a big
hit and Bohemian Rhapsody wasjust a big hit last year with a
star was born being something sothat, you know, Mo movies with
music.
But this is more of like aspecific musical based on time.
(28:05):
And I'm not saying you couldn'tdo it, but it was it, uh, I
don't know, whatever it is, itdid work, you know, um, the
video, like I said, went intoheavy rotation on MTV.
It, it was, um, it won two VMAs,right?
It won video of the year, um, in2001 and best video.
(28:28):
Um, and then, um, I think italso won best video from a film.
It was nominated for like six.
It was like nominated for bestdance, best pop, best
choreography, best artdirection.
Um, it didn't win all those, butI, I think it won.
Yeah, it won definitely video ofthe year and best video from a
(28:48):
film.
So I know it won two.
I saw recently that ed Sherinwas wanting to remake the video
with Bruno Mars and JustinBieber, um, which I think would
be an amazing idea.
(29:09):
Um, I would love to see that I'mnot sure that it works or that
it is a thing, but just becauseI work so hard on this video and
, um, you know, I love the song.
I think the song's a great song,so it would be fun to see.
Um, but yeah, this was, this wasone of those videos that at the
(29:30):
time, um, you knew it wasspecial.
And now looking back on it some18, 19 years later, it wa it was
special and it was a moment intime and we did do some pretty,
pretty amazing things.
Um, I, I won't tell you thatcinematically, it was like
groundbreaking because I, I will, I, I wouldn't kill myself and
(29:53):
it wasn't supposed to be, youknow, like the film itself was
the video was, you know, had areal purpose and that was to
showcase the girls and the songand the, the sexuality and
sensuality of the Mulan Rouge,because ultimately it is about a
prostitute and a John and astory.
And, um, so there is sensualityand sexuality and lustfulness
(30:19):
and everything, and trying to dothat in a, you know, some at the
time somewhat, you know, modern,um, twist wi but, but it also
having the, you know, the MuongRouge era vibe so that there was
the BIR and the co theier, um,you know, like just trying to
(30:45):
get, get all that.
And so it was definitely a, aart piece, a beauty piece with
that needed to have, um, youknow, some rhythm and, and
movement.
And Paul did an amazing job atthat, you know, not, and that,
I'm not saying it in a bad way.
It was, it wasn't supposed to bean art piece or, you know, some
sort of Kubrick ode to likecinema it, it was beautifully
(31:09):
shot and beautifullychoreographer, choreo,
choreographed.
Yeah.
Beautifully shot, be beautifullychoreographed, incredibly
edited, you know, like all the,like a plus for everything.
Um, and that's why it holds atest of time.
Go watch the video.
You should watch it.
It's in the link.
Um, or if not, just, um, go ontoYouTube and check it out.
(31:31):
It really is.
Um, it really is something andsomething I'm proud of.
So that brings us to the end ofepisode, three lady Marlo,
featuring Christina Aguilera,pink Maya, Lil Kim, miss Elliot.
Hope you enjoyed it.
Um, I, uh, enjoyed taking a ridedown the, uh, memory old memory
(31:55):
lane.
Um, just listening back to someof the stuff I recorded.
I guess the word is corset.
You know, I couldn't figure outwhat I was saying, but it was
corset is what I wanted to say.
That's it?
My name is Randy Sason.
This is the commissioner.
Thank you for listening.
Um, as always, I'll leave youwith this turning up.
The volume is like zooming in,but with sound.
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