But first, her (and us. And me).

Nirvana Rain speaks with Tamar about what inspired her to start her brand, But first, me.

[00:00:16.775] – TAMAR:
Hey, everybody, we are in a — I don’t want to tell you what we’re missing, but we are missing something very monumental to do this podcast recording. I’m not going to say anything further, but just saying that I’m keeping it at that. I’m so excited that I am spending my time with Nirvana Rain instead of with the presidential stuff. I’m just leaving it like that. Not saying anything further because of course, this goes online a little later. Yes. So I have never Nirvana Rain, she is near the White House area. Talk to me. Where are you. Tell me about [everything]. Thanks for coming. Go for it. Hello. Hello.

[00:00:55.985] – Nirvana Rain:
Thank you for having me, Tamar. My name is Nirvana Rain and I live in the DMD area, so I am literally in the middle of it all right now.

[00:01:10.235] – TAMAR:
Is it crazy there right now?

[00:01:13.925] – Nirvana Rain:
Um, probably, you know, but I kind of—I don’t really watch the news like that. You know, I kind of try and stay kind of like in my own little bubble just to kind of try and stay sane, because there’s a lot going on right now and can be, like, really heavy. Yeah.

[00:01:32.285] – TAMAR:
So that’s that’s that’s what I notice. And it’s like I love Twitter, but I hate Twitter because it’s meeting of the minds, but I’m trying to start following topics that are just not political because there is a sanity function of that. And I mean, I think that well, I don’t want to say because I don’t want, I don’t opine politics too much here. I think it’s just safer not to [laugh] do anything and have anything and let it even—obviously, I know what’s going on in the world. It’s like you have to know. But like, you can’t let it define how you feel about anything, because otherwise that’s just it’s harder. It’s definitely harder for you, you’re not going to sleep at night. I actually had someone cancel a podcast in the past because she’s like, I can’t sleep. This is “the elections are happening.” And I’m just like, I totally empathize with that, but I’m like, thank God, I don’t let that affect me.

[00:02:36.915] – Nirvana Rain:
Yeah, yeah, well you do what you can do right, like self care is so important and that’s going to look different for everybody, so you just have to figure out what works for you.

[00:02:53.175] – TAMAR:
Yeah, exactly. So this is the way you know, there’s something that somebody has to get hung up on. It shouldn’t be. That is basically it is a self care thing because at the end of the day, this is like politics is potentially the most polarizing thing out there. I mean, it’s the first three letters of the word. Yeah. All right. Well, cool. So tell me give me a little bit of background on who you are and like how we connect, because it was like very random and it was awesome. And we had a good chat in the past. So give a little context about that.

[00:03:30.125] – Nirvana Rain:
For sure, for sure. So like I said, my name is Nirvana Rain and I am the founder and CEO, of But First, Me, which is a self care and self love brand that encourages you to show up every day as your true, authentic self first. So the way me and Tamar kind of connected was I’m very new to this space. And, you know, I was just looking for ways like like just getting started with my brand. And so I Googled self-love, self care. And she came up and I thought her story was very interesting. And I’m like, I want to connect with her. And so I reached out and thankfully she reached back and then she one thing led to another and we connected. And then she’s like, can you be in your podcast? And I’m like, of course. And so now I’m here. So just really excited. Really, really excited. So thank you again for having me. Yeah.

[00:04:31.265] – TAMAR:
I’m so happy that you’re here and I’m so happy that that happened. And I mean, it’s a great story. I mean, I’m glad you found me here on self care on Google and I’m trying to think to make my site [rank] for that. I think you saw one of the articles that was [about me] and it’s definitely it’s like this is the start of hustle. You know, you really got to figure out how to make all these things work together in tandem. So, yeah.