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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to
the Confident Musicianing
Podcast.
My name is Eleanor and I am aBritish American oboist studying
at the Royal Conservatoire ofScotland literally my dream
school and it took me a long wayto get there.
I applied and auditioned for 12schools in three different
countries.
It was a lot of hard work but,oh my gosh, so worth it.
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I want you to have theconfidence to work hard in
achieving your goals, so comewith me as we go on this journey
together.
So sit down, pull up a chair,take a seat or, if you're on the
go, welcome to the ConfidentMusicianing Podcast.
Listen.
Frustration is normal inpractice.
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It is normal in practice.
We all feel it, we all get it,and it's something that we need
to kind of deal with and getused to, because it's going to
be there, and to just kind ofbefriend it and move on.
Now, this is something that isvery difficult and I still
struggle with it.
I get frustrated all the time,but this is something that I
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think is very important to talkabout and that's why I am here
and you are here, and todaywe're just going to dive into
some things that have helped mewhen I get extremely frustrated
in the practice session.
So grab a cup of tea I have mytea here and let's get cozy and
let's chat about this.
So grab a cup of tea, I have mytea here and let's get cozy and
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let's chat about this.
If you're watching the YouTubevideo of this, we have lights.
We have blue lights, bluestringy lights.
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arrange something for that.
But this is this is the setup,and let's just dive into how we
can work through frustration.
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Okay, so I remember like this.
So this episode is kind of likeI've done an episode on
frustration before and that waslike 10, 9 months ago, and so I
thought it's really really,really important to revisit it.
So I'm kind of basing thisepisode off of that episode, but
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adding new things I havelearned since then, and so let's
just dive right into doing this.
So I think practicing forauditions, especially for
auditions, and things like that,when you feel the pressure, you
know you feel like, oh my gosh,I need to get this right that's
when frustration can really setin.
I feel like, if we are justplaying to play and it doesn't
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work, we're like, oh, all right,well, you know, whatever
there's no, there's no deadline,there's no pressure here.
Frustration can maybe not getin as much.
But when there's a deadline orthere's no pressure here,
frustration can maybe not get inas much.
But when there's a deadline orit's an audition or something
that we really need to get, youknow this thing good at that's
when frustration can set in.
And the first thing tounderstand is to understand that
it's normal.
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Frustration is normal.
You know, I started thispodcast episode, I started this
video saying that it's normalbecause it is Like, for instance
, think about your favoriteclassical musician or just any
musician, like a soloist likeHilary Hahn, maybe an orchestral
player, maybe like your teacher, someone that you know.
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Just picture them in your head.
Let's do this together.
Just like.
Picture them in your head head.
Let's do this together.
Just like.
Picture them in your head.
Maybe they're playing on stageor standing while they're, while
they have a pause.
Let me tell you something theyknow frustration.
They just do they knowfrustration, um, and I think
when we talk to any musician,they can say I know frustration.
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I think recently because, youknow, since we did the episode
about frustration last, I havemoved to the UK and I have
started playing on a Europeanstyle of reed and that's
something that is very new to meand very stressful, but it's a
completely different setup.
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So, like, my embouchure isdifferent, my, my breathing is
different, my air support isdifferent, the, the intonation
is different, and I rememberrecently I did an opera, I was
in an opera and it because I wastransitioning to this new thing
.
I was really struggling with myintonation in the opera and
that was really frustrating.
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If you wanna watch the operavlog, there is a vlog about the
opera on my YouTube channel.
I will link it below.
But I was really frustrated,like I really struggled with it
because I could not get thesesections in tune, because I was
transitioning to a new scrape ofread, a new type of read, and I
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think a really helpful thingwas to just understand that it
is normal.
And I think when we, if we feellike, oh my gosh, you know, I'm
so frustrated, and if we need tounderstand that it's normal,
maybe we're struggling with likefeeling like that, or maybe
we're struggling with comparison, we're like, oh my gosh, you
know this person probablydoesn't feel frustrated.
Talk to people.
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That's a great way to do this,just like talk to them, be like,
hey, I'm frustrated, have youever been frustrated with with
practicing, with playing, andthey will tell you yes, they'll
probably tell you yes, and thenyou can create that connection
with someone else anothermusician, where you can talk
about your frustration, and Ithink that that is a really
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great way to just findcamaraderie in something that
can feel really isolating,especially when you are in a
practice room and you're likewhat am I doing?
I'm very frustrated, but I'malso alone in this room, and
you're like what am I doing?
I'm very frustrated, but I'malso alone in this room and I
feel very lonely.
So there are things that we cando to understand that
frustration is normal.
The next thing is to let it washover you and don't hold it down
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Oh my gosh.
This is a really great thing tothink about For me.
You know, if I stub my toeright, if I just stub my toe, it
hurts.
You know, and I've alwaysnoticed when I do something like
that, that there's two options.
Your body can either tense upand you can be like oh ow, ow,
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ow, ow, ow, it hurt, it hurt, ithurt.
Or you can just let it washover you.
If you just relax your body,try it next time you stub your
toe.
If you just relax your body andlet it wash over you, I feel in
my experience at least the painleaves quicker because you're
just like all right, the pain'shere, let's wash it over, right?
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I think it's very I've.
I've had, um, let's wash itover, right?
I think it's very I've had.
I've heard some friends say it'ssimilar to like if you had like
an animal, like maybe a dog,that wants your attention, right
, if you don't give attention,it'll want it more.
It'll be like woof, woof.
You know it'll want moreattention.
But if you give it attentionthen it'll maybe maybe calm down
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, especially if the dog's upset.
You know, and that's the samething with frustration
frustration just wants to befelt, I feel.
You know, that's kind of howI've, how I have felt it in the
past.
So when we feel frustration, Ithink a great way to work
through it is to just let it sitthere, let it be, just be like
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oh yeah, frustrations here.
That's what I do.
I find that helpful.
You know, frustrations hereit's okay and I think that that
can be really helpful,especially, you know, recently,
when I am transitioning to theEuropean scrape, things have
been frustrating and if I, youknow, if I tense up or maybe I
don't think about it, and I, youknow, I beat myself up and I'm
like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, Ican't do, maybe I don't think
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about it and I beat myself upand I'm like, oh my gosh, oh my
gosh, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I never get anywhere with that.
But if I'm like, alright, I'mfeeling frustrated, this is
tricky, if you admit to yourselfthis is difficult, oh my gosh,
that can do wonders, in myexperience at least.
I'm like this is difficult, Iam frustrated, but that's okay,
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you know, and just let it washover you, kind of relax in the
frustration rather than try andpush it down.
Because I feel like when I atleast for me, when I push my
frustration down, it just wantsto come right back up harder.
But if I just let it wash overme and I'm like relaxed, then
that can really help me to feela bit better about frustration
and the whole situation.
So next time you stub your toe,try relaxing, see what it does
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and next time you feelfrustrated, try relaxing and see
what it does.
I think, especially recentlywith my transitioning to the
European style and even with theopera just so much frustration
if I can't get something and tojust acknowledge it and be like,
yep, hello, has really helpedme as well.
Now, the last thing I thinkwhich is helpful and I think
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it's something that might beobvious, but we really struggle
with it.
I think recently I have reallystruggled with this and I'm
really working on it and that isto stop and take a break.
For me, recently, I'm going tobe honest, I've struggled with
this.
This is difficult.
I feel like I need to keepgoing and whenever I stop to
take a break, I feel quiteguilty about it.
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I'm not going to lie.
Stop to take a break, I feelquite guilty about it, I'm not
going to lie.
But I think taking a break iswhat we need, especially when we
feel frustrated.
Like, do something we enjoy.
You know, doing something weenjoy is so helpful.
So like, maybe if I'mfrustrated with oboe, I'll put
the oboe down and I'll get theguitar up or something and just
play whatever, because you know,that's just like a fun
instrument that I just like todo, and there's no stress about
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it, you know.
Or maybe I draw something orknit, or go for a walk, touch
grass, you know what I mean.
Like just like, take a sec andjust be, like, okay, let's do
something we enjoy Dance, put on, you know, move, move your body
, especially if you're in apractice room where you're just
cooped up, you know, go for awalk, do a dance, you know, have
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, do something like that, call afriend, I don't know, just have
a practice break.
And if you are so frustratedthat you need to maybe take the
rest of the day off ofpracticing, that is okay too.
Rest is important and it'sproductive, it really is, and I
think that that you know if youneed that, then that's what you
need, and maybe you get to thein the middle of the day and
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you're like, actually I'mfeeling a little better and I
can go back, and that's okay aswell.
Just kind of being in tune withthis, I feel that that's
something that I've been needingto do sometimes recently,
especially, I mean yesterday.
This wasn't frustration, butthis was just absolute tiredness
.
I, I went to um to Perth,scotland, on a train and when I
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came home, I was just absolutelyexhausted and I planned to
practice, but then I thought Iam not going to get anything
done, it's not going to be goodbecause I'm so tired, and so I
decided to just let that be anddo something that was like low
effort, that I enjoyed, andthat's the same with frustration
Like yesterday I wasn'tfrustrated, but it's the same
idea.
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So, taking a break and it'sokay when you struggle to take
that break I struggled to takethat break too and I think the
greatest rebellion of thatstruggle is to actually do it
and to be like you know what.
We're going to do it and we'regoing to be fine, it's going to
be fine, you know.
Yeah, so those are my three.
Those are my three things.
I think you know.
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When we are doing practicingespecially, frustration can come
in many ways, but I thinkfrustration can definitely be
augmented when we don't actuallyknow what we're doing in the
practice session.
And that's something that Ihave felt and I feel like maybe
you could, you know, relate tothat.
But something that has reallyhelped me with that is actually
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planning my practice and writingthings down, and that is where
my new favorite thing, one of myfavorite things comes in.
I have been using Notablespractice journals.
This is a practice journal thatyou can use and basically you
write down what you're going todo and then you write a
reflection at the end and it hasreally good questions to kind
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of help you and guide you inthat as well.
Now I've practiced.
I did a practice journal before.
I got a notable journal about afew years ago and that was just
a blank journal and that wasgreat until I actually didn't
feel like writing another thingin a blank journal and kind of
starting that.
You know like when things areharder to actually start, and so
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I ended up not planning mypractice anymore and that just
got kind of bad.
My practice just went womp,womp, kind of worse and worse.
But with this, since it'salready laid out for me, I
literally just have to fill inthe blank and that is so, so, so
helpful.
So as soon as I found out thatnotable practice journals were
working for me, I had to tellyou about it and I had to give
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you a code.
So use code Eleanor15 for 15%off your order.
That is, e-l-e-a-n-o-r-1-5 for15% off your order.
Seriously, this has been sohelpful for my productivity in
my practicing, the effectivenessof my practicing, and also just
like general frustration aswell, because I know what I'm
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doing.
You know like that's a goodanchor and maybe you need to
still like, maybe take a breakor something, but you can
reflect about that break in yourjournal.
So these are great and I had totell you about them.
So use code Eleanor15 for 15%off.
I will link the link to getyour journal in the description,
in the show notes.
And yeah, do yourself a favorand get yourself a cheeky
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journal and let's plan ourpractice.
Okay, let's do a recap, shall we?
So the first thing isunderstanding that this is
normal.
This is so normal and if wehave a hard time understanding
that this is normal, talk tosomeone about it.
Let's just be like I'mfrustrated in my practice.
Have you been frustrated?
Tell me about your frustrationand then you can maybe you know
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it helps to make it feel a bitmore normal.
The next thing is let it washover you.
Don't hold it down If you, themore you push it in a corner,
the more it wants to spring backon you.
Try to just let it wash overyou and be like, yeah, I'm
frustrated and that's okay.
And the third thing if you needto stop and take a break, like
stop for whether that's a fiveminute break, a 15 minute break,
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a eight hour break, like maybeyou stop playing your instrument
for that day and you try againthe next day, whatever you need,
taking a break can be so, so,so beneficial.
All right, okay, that is aboutit for this episode.
Thank you so much for hangingout with me.
It was so fun to to chat.
Um, if you want, if you wantthe lights to be a different
color than blue, just let meknow in the comments and we can
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sort that out.
I'd love to just play aroundwith these lights.
It's great, as always.
All of the things to do withthis episode will be in the
description in the show notesfrom the blog post that goes
with this episode, as well asthe link to get your notable
practice journal.
Yeah, and I will see you in thenext episode or video.
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All right, take care.
Bye-bye.