February 26, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode, my guest, Christina Prokos, explains the importance of inner child work. The inner child is the version of you that needs attention. It is the aspect of Self that feels disassociation.
Christina breaks down:
- Why inner child work is painful.
- Why your inner child needs you to pay attention.
- And she explains how healing leads us to the truth of who we and, ultimately, to our purpose work, and Self-love.
She also talk about angels, soul retrieval, and spiritual bypassing.
Christina is also the co-host of The Soul Thrive Podcast, with Ivana Musich. I hope you enjoy this episode. Please let me know, write a review, leave a comment and follow me on IG the conscious diva. Thank you so much for listening.
About Christina:
Christina Prokos is a renowned psychic and intuitive counselor celebrated for her transformative work in soul retrieval, shadow work, and trauma healing. With thousands of clients transformed through her unique blend of spiritual insight and emotional depth, Christina empowers individuals and couples to break free from past wounds, reconnect with their inner child, and build authentic, thriving relationships. Her intuitive guidance and expertise have made her a sought-after force for profound, lasting change.
Links: https://www.christinaprokos.com
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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Conscious Hero
Podcast. I'm Tatiana, and joining me in
this episode is spiritual healerChristina Prokos.
Christina works as an intuitive counselor, a life coach,
spiritual healer, and psychic medium with a focus on soul
retrieval and inner child work. In this episode, Christina
shares insights about channelling angels, soul
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retrieval, spiritual bypassing and how intuition offers
insights beyond on logic. We also dive into the importance
of inner child work and why it'spainful and how it leads us to
the truth of who we are and ultimately our purpose, work and
self love. Christina is also the Co host of
the Soul Thrive podcast with Ivana Music.
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I hope you enjoy this episode. Please let me know by writing a
review or leaving a comment and following me on Instagram at the
Conscious Diva. Thank you so much for listening.
Welcome, Christina. So great to chat to you today.
Thank you so much for having me on.
I'm excited. Why?
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So I just did I just listened toone of your Angel meditations
and Archangel Shammuel and whichI know they're a little bit
older on your YouTube channel, but they started available.
Yeah, but really beautiful and they're very short, so it's
really nice. You could just kind of listen to
one and and I just thought, you know, why not like this is a
what we're going to talk about spirituality and how we tune
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into our inner child and how we heal.
It comes from a place of love. So I just thought, no, why don't
just tune into the Archangel chamual and have that kind of
the vibration of that common that's at the point.
Yeah, it's so funny. Those meditations I had done, I
think it was like over 10 years now and there are still like
very popular on my YouTube channel.
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Like, it's insane, but they work.
They wouldn't when I invoke evenlike today I was like, OK, I
need to work with Archangel Michael.
I really need your presence today because my energy isn't at
like 100%. And so I was like, I really need
support and added protection. So I was like, OK, Archangel
Michael, come in, you know, let's just do our thing and work
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together. So it's nice.
Working with angels, is that something you have always been
attuned to? Yes.
So I actually really did gravitate from the beginning of
my like actual embodiment of my spirituality.
I really was like, I love working with angels, Like I love
this energy. And I really felt I needed it
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because I wasn't too sure like where I was going to figure out
what my guidance was going to look like, what my path was
going to kind of unfold as. And then it was kind of like
calling in that added support and I was like, this feels
really attuned to also just likehow it was brought up and like
the belief in, you know, God and, and welcoming in a higher
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power and like working with the angels was kind of like also
very much talked a lot about in our like religion or what.
However, And so I felt like it was important for me to kind of
like incorporate that into my spirituality.
But then that helped me unlock so much more of my own
abilities, which was really, really nice 'cause I do feel
when you work with the angels, they definitely like help lead
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you in a really great direction and they help you and they teach
you a lot about you, which is really.
Nice, beautiful. OK, So can you expand on that?
But I'd love for you to just share maybe a little bit of your
story when you first became aware that you could tune into
angels and ask for their help, and then how that unfolded for
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you. Well, I think from when I was
really little, I had the abilityto kind of tap into spirit no
matter what. Angels didn't come into like
play until I was like 12 or 13 or 14.
My grandmother used to be very like, she was a very religious
woman. And so she would read a lot of
like the Bible and, and verses and all that stuff in Greek.
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So I'd kind of like take her little pamphlet and kind of like
try to read it too. And I, I, I can read Greek, but
it's also very hard. But there was always mentions
of, you know, specific types of angels in there.
And I was like, OK, what does this really mean?
If I was to kind of tap into that and over time, I would get
colours and I would get like symbols and I would get like
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Angel numbers. And I would, so I'd start to
kind of like tap in in that way.And I'd be like, oh, wow, this
is really interesting. I called on, you know, Archangel
Uriel. And Archangel Uriel came in and
now I'm seeing like 444 everywhere, you know?
And I'm like, oh, OK, I called in, you know, Archangel Shamuel.
And now I'm noticing that I'm having like a purge and I'm
crying. And I'm like allowing this
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energy to move through me. But I didn't start working
specifically with the angels until my 20s.
But they were, I would call on angels.
I'd be like, OK, I need added protection.
My grandmother would be like, call on your angels and like,
you have them with you, you know, working through your day
and your you when you go to school and your life and your
experience. I was like, OK, you know, like,
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that's a different concept. But for me, it was more seeing,
like, deceased loved ones and then, you know, tapping into,
you know, people's energies and understanding, like, what's
going on within themselves and recognizing patterns.
And then, like I said, working with the angels was like, the
first step of me stepping into my spirituality.
And then that helped bridge the rest of the awakening, right?
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So I really felt like it was a great anchor.
And at the time, I really gravitated towards, I don't know
if, you know, Doreen Virtue. However, she has changed.
Yeah, I know it totally. To be honest, I, I know why.
I mean, she didn't really do a lot of the shadow work aspect of
things. I don't think she's, she's
tapped into the subconscious parts of herself.
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And so when we're looking at like demons, you know, the fear
of demons, it's like, OK, well, you're just not willing to face,
you know, parts of yourself, right?
And that's a big part of when you're working with your angels,
Like they're also going to teachyou about you.
And I think that that's important.
You're going to have to like uncover parts of yourself
because I think people assume that when you're working with
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angels or when you're working with your guides or you're
activating your gifts that it's all positive.
Yeah, it's all love and light, but.
Right, it's like all of rainbowsand all those like beautiful
like thing and, and a lot of it,yes, it's beautiful.
I thought there was an element of you're going to hit the floor
and you're going to cry and you're going to have a moment
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where you're going to have to like really question who you are
as a person and what your intentions are and how you're
going to use these gifts. And when I was a kid, obviously
didn't understand that. And throughout my years, yes, it
became more and more evident that you're working with the
angels because you want to tune your frequency to certain
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aspects of yourself, and those aspects of yourself are tied to
subconscious parts of yourself. So you have to reflect and
become aware. So yeah, working with angels
became more in my 20s. When I was younger, I would see
deceased loved ones all the time, which was my norm.
I didn't know any different until I got a little older and
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realized like, no, not everybodyoperates like this.
And you're like, OK, this is weird now, but it is something
that my grandmother had. My great grandmother had
something that was passed on. And with it, it was, you know,
it was funny because I was having this conversation with
myself today and I thought to myself, like, I'm in a whole
different perspective with my energy and my gifts as well.
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And I was like, you know, you'rein a new part of yourself.
Remember where you were when youwere a kid.
Remember where you were when youwere a teenager.
Remember where you were in your adolescence and like, where you
are now as a woman And like, seethe evolution in that.
And what can you accept fully? Like, can you accept full?
Like I think a part of me didn'taccept my gifts full yet, you
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know, because it's like with it comes so much rejection and
sacrifice and so many other likeaspects of yourself, right?
And even though I've done so much learning and growing
throughout those years, I think today was the day where I was
like, I think I really need to like fully step into things and
fully like be OK with the fact that you not only see deceased
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loved ones, but you are working with like aliens too.
Like, it's like this like weird.And aliens are very much like,
you could, you could say they'rekind of angels, right?
You could say they're kind of guys.
Coming in proper dimensional. Yeah, so angels work in like 7th
dimensional perspectives and then, you know, they kind of
come in and they help our energy.
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And then we're working with. I'm working with 9th dimensional
perspectives now, which is really cool and interesting.
And I love that you're in the flow there.
There are some other, I want to ask you about the reoccurring
theme there, which is something that you do that you teach other
people is in a child work. And so you, even though you
didn't actually use that phrase,which I think has become quite
popular in the last, you know, 5-10 years, that's what, you
know, really when we're tapping into these energies, it allows
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us to really come in. So I'd love for you to explain
what firstly is in a child work for anybody that perhaps isn't
familiar with that or has heard about it.
And it's like, I don't know if Ineed to be doing that.
Yeah. Our formative years in our
childhood really do lay a huge foundation of what, how, how
we're going to operate and how our energy and our belief
systems are. And so when we have experiences
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that can be traumatic to a degree, we don't know how to,
from our, from our child's perspective, process that we
have no idea how to kind of integrate a lot of these
experiences because we don't understand language yet, or we
don't know how to communicate our, our full range of emotions.
And we don't know how to understand trauma.
And, and if we have adults in our life in our guardians, I
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would say, and our experience has had a huge emphasis on those
fundamental years, how you're operating in your day-to-day
life and your experiences is literally like a child, whether
we like it or not, we have theseaspects of ourselves.
So within ourselves, there's like this inner child and this
inner child has the ability to really guide us into destructive
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behaviors or anxiety and panic and PTSD and coping mechanisms.
And it also has all the wisdom and understanding as to why
we're attracting those types of experiences to begin with.
So I really do find inner child work is very profound because
when you sit and access those parts of yourself from your
childhood, you have the ability to re educate yourself.
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You have the ability to find a new point of attraction, a new
energy to bring in that's reallygonna align you with better
outcomes in your day-to-day experiences now.
And that works like really closeto shadow emotion within your
subconscious parts because this inner child, whether we
understand it or not, whether wewant to work with it or not, is
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leading. And I think that, you know, we
assume, even though we can be soeducated in ourselves, why do we
still react? Why do we still spiral?
Why do we still go towards our addictions?
Why do we still have these coping mechanisms?
And if we can understand that itis within the inner child and
you can just reflect and, and tap into that, you then have the
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opportunity to really say, I nowunderstand why I'm operating the
way I am now as an adult. So accessing this part of
yourself, and when you do this consistently, there's more and
more of this integration that starts to happen, this
education, this relief within yourself.
And it has the opportunity to really shift everything in your
life. And it really gives you the
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emotional intelligence, the emotional regulation that you're
looking for. It gives you more context around
your childhood experiences. And I've also met individuals
who will say like, oh, my childhood was really awesome.
It was really great. I was really happy.
Like there was like nothing there.
And I was like, we have to explore because you're choosing
something in your life right nowand that choice that you're
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making, good or bad, is still affecting or has affected your
inner child in some way, some form.
So it's a very powerful practice.
It is something that I think that I would recommend many
people to try to dive into. But with that too, you're going
to uncover a lot of pain, right?You're going to uncover a lot of
sadness, you're going to cover alot of anger.
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Learning to work with your innerchild and your subconscious
emotions, your shadow work, really brings in the opportunity
to bridge a really big gap of awareness, and the more and more
you do that, the more and more aware you get.
And what's your particular technique?
I work with my clients and I think when we're in when we work
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in the the spiritual realms manifest and present in in
really beautiful and unique waysfor.
Everyone. Which is really great, which it
makes this space super expansivebecause there's, there's,
there's someone for everybody. And so I'd love to, for you to
share how do you work with your clients to guide them to that
space? And, and then I'd love for you
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to connect that to fragmented soul work, because not everybody
who's doing in a child work needs to be, have, have be
retrieved and brought back and pulled into wholeness in their
body. But a lot of people do, and they
don't even realize it in that moment.
Right, right. So, so soul retrieval is another
element that I use a lot with this like a ancient schematic
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process, but it's been modernized for a lot of
intuitive now that want to work with this type of modality.
And so it varies. When I'm working with my client,
obviously I'm always reading their energy 1st and then I have
to see like where their energy is guiding me towards.
So at the beginning stages, it may just be a normal
conversation that we are having so that I can access as much
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information because even if you're talking to me, I'm
accessing your energy. So that for me is telling me a
lot more than what you're sayingto me.
Yeah, I'm just, I'm just going to interrupt for one SEC.
I'm sorry. But just to clarify for
listeners, that feels like it's very different to therapy.
Yes. Work very different because I'm
sure you you operate similarly to me, I'm sure that you are
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literally picking up channellingthe communication that's coming
through yes. So it comes to this amazing,
very supportive way that almost like taps right into their core.
Yes, in the highest space. Yes, so, so there's an element
of that where they're definitelyit is you're locked in.
I'm also feeling a lot of their what they're feeling.
So I'm locked into their own nervous system.
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I'm locked into their their their subconscious parts.
So I'm I'm actually actually exhibiting and mirroring back
the subconscious to them. So when we're working
one-on-one, there's a lot of that.
So I'm also sometimes tapping into parts of themselves that
they're unaware of that I'm bringing back into light so that
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they have the awareness to kind of say like, look, this is
what's showing up and this is how angry it is or how sad it is
or how annoyed it is or how happy it is, whatever that may
look like. So there's that element of that.
There's parts work that comes inwith this too.
But I like to meet my client where they're at.
I think when we first start off,I think there's this expectation
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with a lot of people that they want to integrate everything all
in one session. And it doesn't really work that
way, right? Like I also have to make sure
that my energy is safe enough toaccess your energy because I
don't want to come in and like really shocker system and I
don't want to come in if you're not fully ready to integrate
that part of yourself. And sometimes people come and
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they don't realize what they need.
And then and then all of a sudden we have the most amazing
type of experience ever. I think people who come with a
state of resistance, I tend to sit with that part of them a
lot. We have to build trust before I
go in 'cause I do work with a lot of clients who have had
sexual abuse happen or like extreme PTSD or CPTSD, anxiety
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disorders. Like I have to look at where
these patterns are coming from. So I see these patterns of
energy within them and I'm like working with that so that I'm
not hurting them or rewounding them as well 'cause I think
there's that element that's veryimportant for me.
It's like, I have no problem going into the depths.
I have no problem going into theshadows.
Especially when I'm doing soul retrieval, like I'm going into
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different realms consistently. To see where you have left that
fragmented part of yourself to bring it back home.
It's so hard because everyone's like, how do you work, right?
And you're like, how do I explain energy to you?
It's like very hard and it's notso tangible.
And I like to be mutable and I like to have a different range.
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It's not just one way of lookingat that, but I tried.
Unique to that person too. It's 100% that.
Client yeah. And so I think the education
part is important. Like I'll, I'll sit and I'll
educate as far as like what the emotion is, where this emotion
is coming from, so that they always have enough context.
So then when I go in and I do the work with them and they are
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doing the work, we're, we're creating this beautiful space of
energy for them so that they canfeel safe enough to integrate
these parts of themselves. But I want them to know why.
I want them to understand what it's going to lead with in their
life and their experience. I want them to go out after the
session and embody that in theirlife and their day-to-day.
It can't just be like, we're just doing this here.
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And then I'm going to go back tooperating in a specific way.
It's like, no, this needs to nowbe part of your life and your
experience. And I think that that's where
the conflict can come up sometimes because people just
want a quick fix and it it doesn't work like that,
unfortunately. Yeah, thank you for saying that.
It doesn't look like that. And we live in such an age where
everybody wants yeah, immediately and they're not
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willing to even not everybody. But often there's there's no no
willingness to create the space for just 1020 minutes in the
morning or whenever to integrateto follow up with what you have
uncovered for them. And I also feel too, like I
think people assume that the moment they start feeling
better, they're like, I'm good now.
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And it's like, no, that's when you have to go harder.
That's why you have to go harder, because now you're
feeling good. You have to go.
Harder. Yeah.
Oh my God, yes. Oh my God.
Yeah. Tons of spiritual bypassing.
Like now I'm good, everything's OK.
We've done this part. I know it now move on.
It's like, no, no, this is whereyou have to go even further now
to see, like where this is leading in your life.
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Because the next time you have an emotional trigger or an
emotional upset, like you need to know how to walk yourself
through that and access that part of yourself.
And most people like to stay. Like I said, you're right where
that spiritual bypassing kicks in, where it's like, yeah, no,
I've learned and I'm aware. And like, this is this is where
I'm at. I'm good.
Yeah. Yeah, no, there's.
More I I've done that. I did that like 20 years ago.
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I was like. Did you?
How did you? I don't need to.
I'm fine, I'm fine. You know, I'm 50 now.
So when I was, you know, youngerI and doing my spiritual work,
I, I would reach this point, youknow, through my, my own
practice. And it was pulling the wool over
my eyes, right? I'm tricking myself into feeling
that are facing my truth. And then people arise.
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And then I started to a little bit question, OK, why is that
still coming up? Why is that still coming up?
And and then my higher self would be like, because you're
not doing the work. So true.
Well, it's true. I think that everyone can fall
victim of bypassing. I think that there's this
element where we tell ourselves when you're doing spirituality,
it's supposed to feel good, likeyou're supposed to be happy and
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it's not. It's supposed to feel real.
It's supposed to feel authentic.And there's a difference there.
And I. Think and that can be painful.
Oh, my God, yeah. I mean, learning how to be your
true self while you're operatingwith all these emotions.
And then the relationships that you have in your life that are
like, there's conflict there allthe time.
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Of course, you're going to have to sit with these parts of
yourself and you're going to have to have so much.
Courage and bravery to face it because you're going to get
rejected. People are going to think poorly
of you, especially if they're used to you being a people
pleaser or are you abandoning yourself or you, you know, being
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the light for others. And if you can't give them that,
that access that dopamine hit like and if you're not operating
as super positive or even like, I think I had this conversation
with a friend of mine recently. I was like, I was reflecting on
my last year and I said this wasa crap year.
Like, I was like such a crap year.
But through it, I like, really learned so much more about
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myself. And she was like, yeah, you
really had it hard this year. I was like, yeah, but I wouldn't
take it back at all. Like I think that it really
taught me to step in my power even more and recognize, even
though I thought I had these beautiful relationships in my
life and beautiful people in my life, that when you're levelling
up, you're going to have to let go. 100%, yeah, 100%.
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I had AI actually emotionally had a similar year, 2024, and it
was leading. It was kind of seeing glimpses
of that even the year before. But last year I really, I was
like, no, I have to make some significant changes in life and
they're sad. They're making me really sad
because the truth of that hurts the truth of the conversations I
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need to have, you know, and, andthe action steps and what needs
to dissolve as a result of beingable to level up and step into
this, the highest version of myself.
And it's often difficult to explain that to somebody who's
not experiencing what you are, isn't sort of attuned or or
gets, you know, that's the lingo, right?
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That's, I think very important. I like that you said too, that
you communicated it. I think because sometimes what
happens is when we're in it, we're not communicating that
we're in it and we're not communicating to others what
this change is going to look like.
And what you're, what you're changing as far as your
boundaries are going to look like and what you're willing to
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energetically put forward. Because every year that we grow,
I mean, just physically, physically or our, our energy or
age, we don't have the capacity for certain things.
We just don't energetically, andwe want to learn what that looks
like with our relationships and what we can offer and what we
can't offer. And that's always evolving.
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And so having conversations withpeople and giving them the
opportunity to redefine the relationship with you, I think
is so important. And if they're not willing to,
then you got to let them go. Absolutely.
And and that's hard for the, forthe other person because they,
they maybe they're not open. They haven't evolved to a point
where now you're matching, you know, or you're no longer you've
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one person's evolved and moved on and and that's totally fine.
But there's, there's such a, there's such a sadness, you
know? Oh my God, yes.
The mourning period of that. Oh my goodness, the mourning.
I've been mourning for, I think a year and a half now, just the
version I was, the, how I was operating, what I, the, the
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thoughts that I had where I thought I was, was heading.
And I really had convinced myself like, I'm good, but this
is good. I'm happy.
And then I was like, oh, no, no,no, there's something wrong.
And I knew it because it's like,it's like at the back of your
head, you know, you hear it, right?
And I would hear my guides and Iwould hear my angels and I'd
pray and you're like, no, I'm good.
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Everything's OK. Like and then like you.
Can treat yourself. I was fooling myself into being
like, yes, because I'm natural, innately a happy person, so I
could go OK, no, no, I'm good. I'm good actually.
Exactly. Exactly.
Yeah. And then they like they go, no,
no, you've got to. And they get.
Louder and they get louder and then they're like you said you
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wanted this and in order for youwant this is your purpose,
Chris, you got to move forward in this.
And I was like, OK, I'm scared, but I'm going to lean into it.
And that's kind of what the inner child work is.
That's kind of what the shadow work is.
It's like leading into the discomfort and being OK with the
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mourning of it, the loss of it, the understanding of it, the
reeducating of it, and then finding a sense of empowerment
in that. And then that I was like, now I
know why I'm ready to, you know,execute this.
Now I know why I'm ready to do that.
And even a couple of days ago, Iwas telling my husband, I'm
like, I still don't feel accomplished.
He's like, that's good. He's like, you're not supposed
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to. And I was like, you're right,
I'm not. I'm supposed to.
I'm supposed to learn more and educate myself more and figure
out what that's going to feel like.
And maybe it's not about accomplishment.
Maybe it's just about being me. Yeah, right.
So, so it was a lot, 'cause likeyou can get lost in that.
You can get lost in like the next goal and the next goal and
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the next thing and the next thing and you're like, you lose
your sense of who you are in that.
No, and then you lose living in the flow.
You lose totally being in the information with spirit.
And I love that you that you just mentioned that you go back
and do your own inner child workbecause we have to even even as
people who work in this space, you, that's how you can step up
and be the highest good for and really serve others is to
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continually go with inward and, and peel back those layers.
Because we're carrying so much, not from this life, but also
ancestral trauma and all kinds of stuff that we're doing work
for our descendants, but also our ancestors.
Yes. So it's funny because I was, I
was on vacation and most people who are on vacation, they think
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like, I'm just going to tune outand I'm just going to check out.
And I was like, no, this whole week I'm going to do salt
retrieval. Like I'm going to spend a whole
week retrieving parts of myself because now I'm hit a new layer
of awareness. And then that layer of awareness
I'm now going to access. I was like, I can't believe I
left that there. Or I, I gave this part of me to
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this person or, you know, so it was like bringing these parts of
myself in. And then I was like, OK, now I'm
ready for the next thing. So I'm always doing the work.
I'm always trying to like be really present with practice
what I preach because I don't want it to be a deception in any
which way. I don't want it to be like, oh
so positive and so happy all thetime.
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There is a lot of positivity that comes with this, but there
is also a lot of grief that comes with this too, because
you're going to mourn so much. You're going to mourn like what
your parents didn't give you. You're going to mourn the person
that you thought you were, friendships, relationships, so
much. But it's going to make you
whole. And that's what this works all
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about. 100% and then when we step back into our wholeness,
then we're really truly able to serve and, and attract and do
what we're supposed to be doing in this life, right in this
human form. So it's, it's actually, it's
really beautiful. It's really beautiful work
because it always come, I would say to my clients, this work
comes from the highest place. It comes from source.
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We are held in love, in loving awareness.
And that's, that's what this is about.
It's about moving you into this space of complete wholeness so
you can really show up, you know, And it's, I think it's,
it's difficult sometimes the phrase the truth of who you are
is hard for people to even understand, to grasp that like
my husband had a really hard foryears.
He's like, what do you mean by that?
I'm like, how long have you beenmarried to me?
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Like. Right.
But don't you just love that youmarry a partner who's just like,
no thanks. And then you're like, OK, we've
got to do the work. Like, OK, you got to do some
stuff. No, it's, it's hilarious,
actually, Yeah. I, I love it though, because
he's like my husband is, is a reflection of like safety and
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protection and like, and then I can see where my avoidance is
like the mirror in like so many things.
And I'm like, OK, universe, thanks for bringing someone like
this in my life because he's always going to kind of direct
where I'm at. And I always have like an
opportunity to kind of be like, OK.
And then he's like then somehow all of a sudden it's like he
gets it. I'm like, OK, we're on the same
page again. This is great.
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Now we're moving in the great, great momentum.
Like this is a good energy. We're we're healing again, you
know, so there's so many beautiful layers to that.
But yeah, the relationships, I think that we bring in our life
and our experiences, I like looking at them as like our
mirrors and registering like, I'm hearing what you're saying.
OK, now I've got to become awareof this and integrate that part
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of me. Yeah, exactly.
So expand on what it means to mirror back something because I,
I think that again, is also a phrase that when you, when it's
explained to someone or presented, mirror, observe
what's being mirrored to you. Observe the kinds of behaviors,
whether it's in a relationship or just in your day and you
interact with a stranger in a store or whatever, Observe
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what's being mirrored back to you.
So I'd just love you to expand on that.
What is this practice? So so.
I'm going to go in a, in a, in ain a range.
I'm going to explain a range of something.
So third dimensional thought patterns, when you're operating
in your third dimensional process, you're operating in a
separation, you're operating in like you against me.
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And so healing is about recognizing that it's not you
against me, it's you and me, right?
And so when you register that there are unresolved traumas
within you and that this inner child is leading with a specific
type of energy, your subconscious is leading.
These parts of you are like vibrating and pulsating with an
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energy. They have a momentum.
That momentum is going to bring in relationships because that's
the way that the universe can communicate to you.
And the universe is going to then show you you.
It's going to show you parts of you, good and bad.
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Really the bad just means trauma, subconscious parts of
ourselves. So when a client comes to me and
let's say I'm working on making them understand the mirroring
process, I'm going, I'm taking your third dimensional thought
patterns and I'm moving you intoa fourth dimensional
perspective. Which means we have to unravel
your belief systems. You have to become aware of your
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limitations. You have to see your trauma.
You have to see it. And the only way you're going to
start to become aware of it is by registering that every
interaction that you're having is a point of attraction to your
trauma. And it is you, which is so
difficult for a lot of people because they're like, what do
you mean? Like I totally brought in this
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narcissist in my life and my experience.
How did this happen and how, howis this me?
And I'm like, look, I'm not saying you're a narcissist.
It's not so black and white. I'm saying that you could have
adapted behavior patterns that are similar to a narcissist to
cope with certain aspects of your trauma.
There could have been another aspect in your child or where a
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caregiver was a narcissist and how you develop certain coping
mechanisms. Codependencies in that
relationship would then reflect back as to why you brought that
relationship in your life to experience.
And the more and more you understand that because I think
people's, the perception of a mirror is like, I see me, this
is me. It's all parts of me.
It's like, no, there's still an unraveling of understanding as
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to why you brought that relationship in your life and
what that's teaching you about you.
That's right. And and also you could just be
in a store and then whereas you go, you're getting into an
argument with somebody. Oh my God, I only go wow.
That person was like this and this, and it's like actually
it's triggering something in youto mirror.
It's showing you as simple as a dysregulation within you.
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So for you to, to match the frequency of an argument or to
match a frequency of something. So, you know, uneasy, it's like,
well, that's how dysregulated you are.
That's showing you that you needto come back to yourself and
regulate your nervous system, right?
And I, I, I know this because I grew up with such a
dysregulated, I grew up in an environment where there was so
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much reactivity with my mother and like, I learned to be
reactive and I learned to just be dysregulated.
And so I couldn't understand until I sat down and realized
all the anger that I was manifesting in my life, all the
mirrors of these types of relationships, all these people
that were causing it's by dysregulation.
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I have to sit with that and I have to figure out how to
regulate my nervous system. And when I started becoming
aware of that, only then did that change in my reality.
Because that's key. It's like that person could
still be angry, but they're not angry with me anymore.
And whenever I'm around them, I'm regulated and they're calm,
right? So that's the shift that we're
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looking for. That also could mean too, that
that relationship dynamic or that person's out, they're no
longer around us anymore becausenow they don't serve a purpose
anymore. Totally.
Yeah, it's amazing how that happens.
Yeah, yeah. It's like.
Quick. Like what when you become aware
of something like I could think about last year for me and I was
like, Oh my God, I'm aware that this type of behavior, I'm being
gas slit right now. It's like narcissistic.
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I'm like, Oh my God, how much did I give of my energy here?
And when I said no more, I'm no longer manifesting for others
and I'm going to regulate my nervous system, they were gone.
Isn't that interesting? Gone, cleared right out and I
was like, OK, now I have to mourn this because I thought
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that that was a completely different relationship dynamic,
but now I'm registering. Oh my God, I was so dysregulated
in that. No wonder I was having physical
symptoms show up. That's another aspect too of
mirroring, right? Yeah, for sure.
Physical body starts to show allthe symptoms of what's being
mirrored emotionally. I know that's and that's really,
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really painful. Yeah.
My God. Yeah, but also I think people
don't have the awareness of understanding.
Like when I have a physical symptom show up, it's 'cause
it's mirroring my emotional state.
Yes, it's still a mirror. So I still have to go into that
and figure out, OK, what is being mirrored here within my
physical body. And I have to become aware, like
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if I'm showing symptoms of panicor anxiety or, you know,
dysregulation and I'm just pushing against myself and then
I'm just numbing myself or disassociating even more.
Like I'm re wounding my inner child.
I'm re wounding my sense of who I am.
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And then the universe is like, OK, well, clearly you're not
paying attention to the relationships around you.
So now physically, something's going to happen and you're going
to have to pause, stop everything that you're doing
because you're so out of alignment to yourself that we're
going to have to pivot here to make you aware of what you need
to change. That itself is a mirror.
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Thank you for so succinctly explaining all of that.
That's really great. And I have had those in my life
where a physical manifestation presents itself in a part of my
body that I've just literally forces me to go, what?
What's happening here? What have I absorbed from this
from this scenario that I'm not recognizing that's now causing
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it And and you it's you can't explain that to another person
who doesn't sort of get how energy does this to.
You. It's like you can't go to a
doctor and say, my God, my leg is just, I'm in this insane
pain. I can't walk, I can't move.
I feel crippled. You know what's going on?
Because they can't it it's they're not able to manipulate
the energy to actually come in. And I use manipulate not in a
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negative sense, but really understand what's, what's
presenting here, that your body is showing, you know, the signs,
the behavior or the pattern in such a way that's making you
literally stop, right? Just obsess and it's not like it
lasts for a year, it could be just a a few days.
Ago it could. Well, yeah, I mean.
Until you pay attention. The moment you start to become
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aware as to what the pattern is that you're doing and how you're
operating and your thoughts thatare aligned with that, it shifts
instantly. Like all of a sudden you're
like, oh, I, I get it now. And then your body goes, OK, we
can ease, we can move now we canflow again, 'cause.
Now you're. Gonna change this behavior
pattern, but most people don't operate like that unfortunately,
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because, you know, they don't want to see what it is that
they're creating, they just wantto.
Condition to not understand whatthat is.
You know, we're not, we're not raised in an, in an environment
in the, you know, at this time of human there we are, right?
We're just not, we're not in this space where we're educated
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to tune into our bodies and to feel where we're feeling the
emotion. Whereas of settling in, in, in
your, you know, you've got a pain in your chest.
OK, maybe you're not actually having a heart attack.
Maybe there's something else, another manifestation that's
showing you something or a pain in your neck or your thighs or
whatever, you know? Well, one of the elements of
what I walk through with my clients is we sit with the
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discomfort as much as we can. So I'll activate that.
So sometimes I'll be like, I learn we're in a session and I'm
like, OK, so talk to me about what's going on or whatever is
happening. It's like everything's OK.
And I'm like, I can feel the pulsation of like their stomach
or I can feel the pulsation of like something in their chest
brewing. I'm like, you know, I think we
kind of just have to sit with this area of your body and
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they're like, OK, so we go into it and then they're, I lock them
into it and then they're like, oh, I didn't even realize I was
carrying that. And then we we go and travel
towards the inner child to figure out what that is saying
emotionally. So, so there is like framework
for this too, which is like really great.
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And it really does shift a lot, which is really nice to see and
witness when someone gets that. Yeah, that's super fulfilling.
You know, I love that. It's beautiful.
It's it's you're doing really beautiful work.
Thank you. What are the other modalities
that you work in? I am a medium as well, so I do
talk to deceased loved ones. However, when I do speak to
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them, I like to work with deceased loved ones in a scale
where we're talking about the relationship dynamic, the
triggers and the trauma and the family lineage.
If it's like tied to family, like if it's a friend, like what
the symbolism of that friend wasfor that person that's crossed
over. So when I am talking to someone
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who's crossed over, I'm like, ifyou're going to come forward, I
need you to come with knowledge.And like we're here to help them
process their grief. And we're here to help them
understand what they need to continue working on an extension
of this process of their grief and what they need to focus on
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as far as healing goes. So like, that's an aspect
because at the beginning, when Ifirst started working with my
abilities, it was very basic. Like I was like, I don't even
know if I want to do this because this feels uncomfortable
and uneasy. And I don't know if this is what
I want to do, but I was always being forced back enough force.
The force is the wrong word. I was just.
Being sort of guided back. Guided back to it, right, even
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though I was in a state of resistance to it for a little
bit no, I know. And then right, right.
And then there's an evolution inthat.
And then it got, as I got betterat understanding emotion and
understanding trauma and workingwith people, like it didn't feel
good for me to just do a simple reading for you anymore.
I didn't feel like like this idea, like, what am I going to
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line up with? And like, tell me what the
universe is like, what's the next thing?
And does this relationship like or this person?
And I was like, this doesn't feel good.
Like I don't want to just sit down and talk about some guy you
met, no offense to that person. And like, do they like you?
I want to talk about why do you feel that you need this
validation from this person thatyou just met?
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Where is this trouble? It's about truth, right?
Right. Like I don't want to give
readings like that. I want to be able to give
readings. And so when I asked the universe
to heighten my awareness of thatand activate my full potential
of my gifts, they're like, OK, you're going to go through some
learning periods with this. So there's a lot of this
modality of talking to deceased loved ones, their guides,
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talking to ancestors, reading consciousness and energy,
tapping into alien thought patterns, being able to
integrate soul retrieval in our child traumas, subconscious
emotion, motion emotions and patterns, shadow work.
So like all of that is my range.I'm also open to now.
I'm in like a 9th dimensional perspective right now.
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And it's been really cool because I'm learning new things
and I don't know what that's going to look like or where
that's going to land with my work right now.
But all of these things kind of like lead to however that person
is showing up in my space, I pull one of those that they need
that they're potentially closer to vibrationally so that I have
the opportunity to work with them where I'm not pulling them
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to a completely different vibrational stance because it's
too much, right? Like I can come in with a lot.
I have to tone it to meet them and then lift them a little bit.
So you have to learn how to, andthe word manipulate comes back
into it, but manipulation in a very positive way where we have
the opportunity for them to elevate their energy, shift
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their consciousness and awareness through whatever
modality shows up. So those are just some
fundamental ways that I work with and those are my
modalities. You mentioned aliens before and
just now, and that's been a recent thing for you.
What are you? What aspects of this
consciousness are you working with?
So Palladian for sure, the Pleiades, which is very much
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tied to like kind of working with Christ consciousness,
elevating the energy, but at thesame time really kind of helping
humanity work through trauma. They're very kind and loving and
just patient and understanding. It's just a really beautiful
energy to work with. I don't know the full range of
it yet because I've just tapped into it, even though they've
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been telling me that I've had access to them as guides for me
for many years. They're like your awareness of
it wasn't there. I saw the whole style system
when you said the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
beautiful. It's really, really beautiful.
And so I'm working with them right now and it's been
fascinating. Like it's still so much that I'm
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trying to understand of what they want me to do with it.
But they're like, they're also right now I'm in a cocoon phase.
So they're, they've been communicating to me about your
upgrading your energy, your cells, your body, like your
diet, everything is changing. So you're half, you're going to
be tired and I'm so tired right now.
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And I, and they're like, and you're not going to be working
at the capacity that you think that you, you know, how you were
operating before. You're going to be working in a
completely different element. But they haven't shown me the
visions of it yet fully. They've shown me glimpses, which
is really cool. So it's been, it's been fun
getting to learn, but I'm not fully there yet.
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You know, I just know like accessing their energy and
sometimes they'll come in. And for instance, I did a live
event back in October and I'd had like 50 people in a room.
And I was like, OK, this is a lot of people for me to do
energetic readings on, but we'regoing to do what we can.
And my lady and guide came in and they're like, no, you're
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going to do all 50. And I was like, excuse me?
And they're like, yeah, you're going to do all 50 and you're
going to do it in two hours. And I was like, OK, like, it's
on, you know, and it's learning to like lean into that and
trusting that you have the capacity and the energy to do
that. And within two hours, 50 people,
I've read them and it was like, all right, cool.
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And everyone was like, this was a great experience.
And I and I was forming readings, talking to deceased
loved ones, their guides, their ancestors and doing soul
retrieval. Wow, you can.
Do that at the group in the roomor every single person every.
Single person, every single person.
And I was like. How many minutes were you
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talking to each person? It was about, I would say like 2
minutes a person. Wow, and that much information
came straight. Straight in, let's do this.
This is what we need to integrate.
And the person would be like, and like, they'd lock in, which
was like crazy because their guys were coming in and they'd
lock in and they'd be like, OK, no, yeah, that makes complete
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sense. You're right.
I'm doing this and I was like, OK, that we're doing.
This it's. Like such a beautiful fusion of
energy. So I'm really excited about what
that's going to look like movingforward.
Like I said, like this advancement in your gifts
because I love, love, love. I think like I'm a forever
student of the universe. And I think, like, for me, I
love being able to be mutable and be like, what works and what
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doesn't work and lean into that uncomfortable because I don't
want to just pigeonhole me. Like I don't want to be like,
I'm just a medium, which if you are, that's amazing because
you're doing such amazing work, right?
But I don't want, I didn't want that for me.
I was like, I want the full range.
Tell me what this really looks like and how can I really make
an impact? And they're like, in doing this,
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I think the, the most important part was like, you're going to
be faced with a lot of rejectionand you're going to be faced
with a lot of dislike. And I have been and I'm like,
and they're like, so we're preparing you for this too,
because there's going to be somereally beautiful experience in
this and there's going to be some people that are not going
to, they're not going to get it.It was similar for me and but
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for my messaging was you have tomake a, there was a radical
change that I that I had to makein my life.
And that was really sad. You know, something that I
really had to contemplate for, for months, but for ages and
then and then this catalystic event happened to really make me
go, Nope, that's it you, that's it.
You've been sitting along in your human timeline
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procrastinating about the messaging.
We've been telling you the action steps that you've been
asking for, and we're bringing this thing in to go.
It's time. Yeah, well, you're needed,
you're activated. That's what you're, you're
needed. Like like that's, that's the
other thing too. Like as much as we're, you know,
operating with the spiritual concept or this energy, like
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when you're activated, it's because your soul knows and you
are needed 100%. And so sometimes like, like it
goes back to like let go of thatidea or that concept of who you
thought you were because there'smore to you and you're needed
and you don't know where you're going to be needed.
You don't know where it's going to take you.
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You don't know, but you got to trust.
And hang into it. And so I think that's wonderful
that you went, as painful as that experience was for you.
And I'm sure it's still having some effects on you, right?
Yeah, 100%. It's right.
Gee, a comfortable experience. Yeah, last year.
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Was it last year for you? So last year was a very big
karmic year for a lot of people.End of the year for me last year
and actually the build up was really the last couple of
months. Yeah.
So it was very karmic and a lot of people were experiencing
ancestral stuff and the activation like that grief and
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that going through those karmic understandings, you're going to
have like a huge awareness of the why in 2025, which is like
what's happening now. And it's very interesting what
is going to manifest within thisyear.
I'm just going to say, if anyone's listening to this and
you had a year, I'm telling you it's it's going to get better.
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There's a reason you are needed.You are being activated.
So, and it's your time. It's your time.
Exactly. Trust.
Trust. Just really trust.
Make the changes. Trust.
We've we've been waiting, we've been waiting for the call and
that's what people don't understand.
We've been waiting like like little soldiers.
We've been waiting on the on thelines kind of being like, OK,
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when are you going to utilize us?
Like we're ready to kind of stepinto the game and they're like,
not yet, not yet, not yet, now, you know?
And so that's kind of where we're bridging this right now,
which I think is beautiful. It's amazing, isn't it?
It's really amazing time, actually, to be in human form
right now. Activate now.
Are you familiar with Diana Cooper at all?
Her. Work I yes yes I am yes a little
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bit not much I don't know much but I I do I see I see her
TikTok I see I see like videos and stuff that people post yeah
and she does angels right she works with.
Angel communication, but also the Pleiades.
She's actually fully tapped intoother world consciousness, which
is really, you know, we can say alien consciousness, but I like
to refer to it as otherworldly because really, I mean, it's not
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of this planet, but it's definitely of other planetary
systems. So a lot of Pleiades, we have a
lot of DNA, Humans, humans are, their DNA is very connected to
the Pleiades. And so she has a lot of other
stuff. But anyway, I listen to some of
her recordings too. Whenever I feel like I need a
major up leveling or I'm about to go through an up leveling,
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I'll to listen to one of her. They're like hour long YouTube
OK? And I'm going to look into that
today and. See really calls like and, and
you can go on her website and you can look up the Pleiades
and, you know, listen to that one and, and they're, they're
really amazing. I mean, the, the visual, the way
she guides you through it all isreally beautiful.
You can see the I'm really working right now with
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activating codes, like codes that are coming out of that I've
been seeing coming out of my hands and all around me.
And so I've been asking how, howcan I tap into this?
What? Why has this activated now?
And what am I supposed to be doing with these light codes?
So how can I integrate that intohow I work with other people and
for myself listening to some of hers around the light code
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activations? So yeah, you might.
Yeah. No, definitely.
I'm going to look into that today.
I definitely look into that. That's beautiful.
But yeah, light codes too. Yeah, activation light codes,
all of that as well. Yeah, I've, I've been, I've been
kind of tapping into that as well, which has been really
cool. But also how that's kind of
leaning into working with the inner child and shadow work too,
which has been like, like, I still want to stay in that
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frame, but in a way where it hasmutability, right?
Because I want to be able to help people access that aspect
of themselves. And it doesn't need to be
complicated, right? Like I'm complicated in the
sense of like all the different modalities that I'm operating
with at just like yourself, you've got the complexities of
all that, but you have like all these beautiful tools that you
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can meet someone with and be like, OK, I'm going to pull this
one out. I'm going to do this and we're
going to see how this works for your energy and how that's going
to help you heal. I think that's where that
activation's coming from. I think more and more people
have to become aware of the changes and the shifts that are
happening. Yeah, absolutely.
And So what offerings have you got?
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You've got your YouTube channel,you have a lot of things on your
website. You've also got the Solve 5.
You have your podcast. Yeah, they share all the things
that you. So I do one on ones, I do a lot
of healing sessions, I do group events.
I do like workshops and all of that as well.
And then I have Soul Thrive, which is a membership platform,
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and I teach every Saturday in there various topics on trauma,
inner child healing, which has been really lovely because I've
built a beautiful community of people.
And I just launched my podcast about six or seven months ago,
and that's been a lot of fun. And it's been like a learning
curve for me too. But the fun part is connecting
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with new people, which has been really, really beautiful.
And we talk a lot about inner child work and shadow work.
Yeah, that's kind of what I do. Well, and So what is your
website? Www.christinaprokos.com.
OK, awesome. And is there anything else you'd
like to share? Any you know about soul
retrieval work or inner child orjust you know, healing or
finding your truth in general? I think that I just want people
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to have a little curiosity, justa little curiosity right now
about where you would want your life to to go and what that
would look like. And maybe the inner child has
the opportunity to access that wisdom and that insight.
So just be curious, be curious alittle bit to like get to know
you on a different level. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciated this conversation so much.
It's been. Wonderful.
Awesome. It just totally flowed.
It was so good.
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Conscious Hero
Podcast. I'm Tatiana, and joining me in
this episode is spiritual healerChristina Prokos.
Christina works as an intuitive counselor, a life coach,
spiritual healer, and psychic medium with a focus on soul
retrieval and inner child work. In this episode, Christina
shares insights about channelling angels, soul
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retrieval, spiritual bypassing and how intuition offers
insights beyond on logic. We also dive into the importance
of inner child work and why it'spainful and how it leads us to
the truth of who we are and ultimately our purpose, work and
self love. Christina is also the Co host of
the Soul Thrive podcast with Ivana Music.
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I hope you enjoy this episode. Please let me know by writing a
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Conscious Diva. Thank you so much for listening.
Welcome, Christina. So great to chat to you today.
Thank you so much for having me on.
I'm excited. Why?
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So I just did I just listened toone of your Angel meditations
and Archangel Shammuel and whichI know they're a little bit
older on your YouTube channel, but they started available.
Yeah, but really beautiful and they're very short, so it's
really nice. You could just kind of listen to
one and and I just thought, you know, why not like this is a
what we're going to talk about spirituality and how we tune
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into our inner child and how we heal.
It comes from a place of love. So I just thought, no, why don't
just tune into the Archangel chamual and have that kind of
the vibration of that common that's at the point.
Yeah, it's so funny. Those meditations I had done, I
think it was like over 10 years now and there are still like
very popular on my YouTube channel.
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Like, it's insane, but they work.
They wouldn't when I invoke evenlike today I was like, OK, I
need to work with Archangel Michael.
I really need your presence today because my energy isn't at
like 100%. And so I was like, I really need
support and added protection. So I was like, OK, Archangel
Michael, come in, you know, let's just do our thing and work
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together. So it's nice.
Working with angels, is that something you have always been
attuned to? Yes.
So I actually really did gravitate from the beginning of
my like actual embodiment of my spirituality.
I really was like, I love working with angels, Like I love
this energy. And I really felt I needed it
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because I wasn't too sure like where I was going to figure out
what my guidance was going to look like, what my path was
going to kind of unfold as. And then it was kind of like
calling in that added support and I was like, this feels
really attuned to also just likehow it was brought up and like
the belief in, you know, God and, and welcoming in a higher
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power and like working with the angels was kind of like also
very much talked a lot about in our like religion or what.
However, And so I felt like it was important for me to kind of
like incorporate that into my spirituality.
But then that helped me unlock so much more of my own
abilities, which was really, really nice 'cause I do feel
when you work with the angels, they definitely like help lead
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you in a really great direction and they help you and they teach
you a lot about you, which is really.
Nice, beautiful. OK, So can you expand on that?
But I'd love for you to just share maybe a little bit of your
story when you first became aware that you could tune into
angels and ask for their help, and then how that unfolded for
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you. Well, I think from when I was
really little, I had the abilityto kind of tap into spirit no
matter what. Angels didn't come into like
play until I was like 12 or 13 or 14.
My grandmother used to be very like, she was a very religious
woman. And so she would read a lot of
like the Bible and, and verses and all that stuff in Greek.
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So I'd kind of like take her little pamphlet and kind of like
try to read it too. And I, I, I can read Greek, but
it's also very hard. But there was always mentions
of, you know, specific types of angels in there.
And I was like, OK, what does this really mean?
If I was to kind of tap into that and over time, I would get
colours and I would get like symbols and I would get like
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Angel numbers. And I would, so I'd start to
kind of like tap in in that way.And I'd be like, oh, wow, this
is really interesting. I called on, you know, Archangel
Uriel. And Archangel Uriel came in and
now I'm seeing like 444 everywhere, you know?
And I'm like, oh, OK, I called in, you know, Archangel Shamuel.
And now I'm noticing that I'm having like a purge and I'm
crying. And I'm like allowing this
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energy to move through me. But I didn't start working
specifically with the angels until my 20s.
But they were, I would call on angels.
I'd be like, OK, I need added protection.
My grandmother would be like, call on your angels and like,
you have them with you, you know, working through your day
and your you when you go to school and your life and your
experience. I was like, OK, you know, like,
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that's a different concept. But for me, it was more seeing,
like, deceased loved ones and then, you know, tapping into,
you know, people's energies and understanding, like, what's
going on within themselves and recognizing patterns.
And then, like I said, working with the angels was like, the
first step of me stepping into my spirituality.
And then that helped bridge the rest of the awakening, right?
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So I really felt like it was a great anchor.
And at the time, I really gravitated towards, I don't know
if, you know, Doreen Virtue. However, she has changed.
Yeah, I know it totally. To be honest, I, I know why.
I mean, she didn't really do a lot of the shadow work aspect of
things. I don't think she's, she's
tapped into the subconscious parts of herself.
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And so when we're looking at like demons, you know, the fear
of demons, it's like, OK, well, you're just not willing to face,
you know, parts of yourself, right?
And that's a big part of when you're working with your angels,
Like they're also going to teachyou about you.
And I think that that's important.
You're going to have to like uncover parts of yourself
because I think people assume that when you're working with
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angels or when you're working with your guides or you're
activating your gifts that it's all positive.
Yeah, it's all love and light, but.
Right, it's like all of rainbowsand all those like beautiful
like thing and, and a lot of it,yes, it's beautiful.
I thought there was an element of you're going to hit the floor
and you're going to cry and you're going to have a moment
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where you're going to have to like really question who you are
as a person and what your intentions are and how you're
going to use these gifts. And when I was a kid, obviously
didn't understand that. And throughout my years, yes, it
became more and more evident that you're working with the
angels because you want to tune your frequency to certain
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aspects of yourself, and those aspects of yourself are tied to
subconscious parts of yourself. So you have to reflect and
become aware. So yeah, working with angels
became more in my 20s. When I was younger, I would see
deceased loved ones all the time, which was my norm.
I didn't know any different until I got a little older and
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realized like, no, not everybodyoperates like this.
And you're like, OK, this is weird now, but it is something
that my grandmother had. My great grandmother had
something that was passed on. And with it, it was, you know,
it was funny because I was having this conversation with
myself today and I thought to myself, like, I'm in a whole
different perspective with my energy and my gifts as well.
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And I was like, you know, you'rein a new part of yourself.
Remember where you were when youwere a kid.
Remember where you were when youwere a teenager.
Remember where you were in your adolescence and like, where you
are now as a woman And like, seethe evolution in that.
And what can you accept fully? Like, can you accept full?
Like I think a part of me didn'taccept my gifts full yet, you
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know, because it's like with it comes so much rejection and
sacrifice and so many other likeaspects of yourself, right?
And even though I've done so much learning and growing
throughout those years, I think today was the day where I was
like, I think I really need to like fully step into things and
fully like be OK with the fact that you not only see deceased
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loved ones, but you are working with like aliens too.
Like, it's like this like weird.And aliens are very much like,
you could, you could say they'rekind of angels, right?
You could say they're kind of guys.
Coming in proper dimensional. Yeah, so angels work in like 7th
dimensional perspectives and then, you know, they kind of
come in and they help our energy.
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And then we're working with. I'm working with 9th dimensional
perspectives now, which is really cool and interesting.
And I love that you're in the flow there.
There are some other, I want to ask you about the reoccurring
theme there, which is something that you do that you teach other
people is in a child work. And so you, even though you
didn't actually use that phrase,which I think has become quite
popular in the last, you know, 5-10 years, that's what, you
know, really when we're tapping into these energies, it allows
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us to really come in. So I'd love for you to explain
what firstly is in a child work for anybody that perhaps isn't
familiar with that or has heard about it.
And it's like, I don't know if Ineed to be doing that.
Yeah. Our formative years in our
childhood really do lay a huge foundation of what, how, how
we're going to operate and how our energy and our belief
systems are. And so when we have experiences
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that can be traumatic to a degree, we don't know how to,
from our, from our child's perspective, process that we
have no idea how to kind of integrate a lot of these
experiences because we don't understand language yet, or we
don't know how to communicate our, our full range of emotions.
And we don't know how to understand trauma.
And, and if we have adults in our life in our guardians, I
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would say, and our experience has had a huge emphasis on those
fundamental years, how you're operating in your day-to-day
life and your experiences is literally like a child, whether
we like it or not, we have theseaspects of ourselves.
So within ourselves, there's like this inner child and this
inner child has the ability to really guide us into destructive
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behaviors or anxiety and panic and PTSD and coping mechanisms.
And it also has all the wisdom and understanding as to why
we're attracting those types of experiences to begin with.
So I really do find inner child work is very profound because
when you sit and access those parts of yourself from your
childhood, you have the ability to re educate yourself.
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You have the ability to find a new point of attraction, a new
energy to bring in that's reallygonna align you with better
outcomes in your day-to-day experiences now.
And that works like really closeto shadow emotion within your
subconscious parts because this inner child, whether we
understand it or not, whether wewant to work with it or not, is
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leading. And I think that, you know, we
assume, even though we can be soeducated in ourselves, why do we
still react? Why do we still spiral?
Why do we still go towards our addictions?
Why do we still have these coping mechanisms?
And if we can understand that itis within the inner child and
you can just reflect and, and tap into that, you then have the
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opportunity to really say, I nowunderstand why I'm operating the
way I am now as an adult. So accessing this part of
yourself, and when you do this consistently, there's more and
more of this integration that starts to happen, this
education, this relief within yourself.
And it has the opportunity to really shift everything in your
life. And it really gives you the
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emotional intelligence, the emotional regulation that you're
looking for. It gives you more context around
your childhood experiences. And I've also met individuals
who will say like, oh, my childhood was really awesome.
It was really great. I was really happy.
Like there was like nothing there.
And I was like, we have to explore because you're choosing
something in your life right nowand that choice that you're
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making, good or bad, is still affecting or has affected your
inner child in some way, some form.
So it's a very powerful practice.
It is something that I think that I would recommend many
people to try to dive into. But with that too, you're going
to uncover a lot of pain, right?You're going to uncover a lot of
sadness, you're going to cover alot of anger.
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Learning to work with your innerchild and your subconscious
emotions, your shadow work, really brings in the opportunity
to bridge a really big gap of awareness, and the more and more
you do that, the more and more aware you get.
And what's your particular technique?
I work with my clients and I think when we're in when we work
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in the the spiritual realms manifest and present in in
really beautiful and unique waysfor.
Everyone. Which is really great, which it
makes this space super expansivebecause there's, there's,
there's someone for everybody. And so I'd love to, for you to
share how do you work with your clients to guide them to that
space? And, and then I'd love for you
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to connect that to fragmented soul work, because not everybody
who's doing in a child work needs to be, have, have be
retrieved and brought back and pulled into wholeness in their
body. But a lot of people do, and they
don't even realize it in that moment.
Right, right. So, so soul retrieval is another
element that I use a lot with this like a ancient schematic
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process, but it's been modernized for a lot of
intuitive now that want to work with this type of modality.
And so it varies. When I'm working with my client,
obviously I'm always reading their energy 1st and then I have
to see like where their energy is guiding me towards.
So at the beginning stages, it may just be a normal
conversation that we are having so that I can access as much
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information because even if you're talking to me, I'm
accessing your energy. So that for me is telling me a
lot more than what you're sayingto me.
Yeah, I'm just, I'm just going to interrupt for one SEC.
I'm sorry. But just to clarify for
listeners, that feels like it's very different to therapy.
Yes. Work very different because I'm
sure you you operate similarly to me, I'm sure that you are
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literally picking up channellingthe communication that's coming
through yes. So it comes to this amazing,
very supportive way that almost like taps right into their core.
Yes, in the highest space. Yes, so, so there's an element
of that where they're definitelyit is you're locked in.
I'm also feeling a lot of their what they're feeling.
So I'm locked into their own nervous system.
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I'm locked into their their their subconscious parts.
So I'm I'm actually actually exhibiting and mirroring back
the subconscious to them. So when we're working
one-on-one, there's a lot of that.
So I'm also sometimes tapping into parts of themselves that
they're unaware of that I'm bringing back into light so that
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they have the awareness to kind of say like, look, this is
what's showing up and this is how angry it is or how sad it is
or how annoyed it is or how happy it is, whatever that may
look like. So there's that element of that.
There's parts work that comes inwith this too.
But I like to meet my client where they're at.
I think when we first start off,I think there's this expectation
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with a lot of people that they want to integrate everything all
in one session. And it doesn't really work that
way, right? Like I also have to make sure
that my energy is safe enough toaccess your energy because I
don't want to come in and like really shocker system and I
don't want to come in if you're not fully ready to integrate
that part of yourself. And sometimes people come and
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they don't realize what they need.
And then and then all of a sudden we have the most amazing
type of experience ever. I think people who come with a
state of resistance, I tend to sit with that part of them a
lot. We have to build trust before I
go in 'cause I do work with a lot of clients who have had
sexual abuse happen or like extreme PTSD or CPTSD, anxiety
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disorders. Like I have to look at where
these patterns are coming from. So I see these patterns of
energy within them and I'm like working with that so that I'm
not hurting them or rewounding them as well 'cause I think
there's that element that's veryimportant for me.
It's like, I have no problem going into the depths.
I have no problem going into theshadows.
Especially when I'm doing soul retrieval, like I'm going into
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different realms consistently. To see where you have left that
fragmented part of yourself to bring it back home.
It's so hard because everyone's like, how do you work, right?
And you're like, how do I explain energy to you?
It's like very hard and it's notso tangible.
And I like to be mutable and I like to have a different range.
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It's not just one way of lookingat that, but I tried.
Unique to that person too. It's 100% that.
Client yeah. And so I think the education
part is important. Like I'll, I'll sit and I'll
educate as far as like what the emotion is, where this emotion
is coming from, so that they always have enough context.
So then when I go in and I do the work with them and they are
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doing the work, we're, we're creating this beautiful space of
energy for them so that they canfeel safe enough to integrate
these parts of themselves. But I want them to know why.
I want them to understand what it's going to lead with in their
life and their experience. I want them to go out after the
session and embody that in theirlife and their day-to-day.
It can't just be like, we're just doing this here.
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And then I'm going to go back tooperating in a specific way.
It's like, no, this needs to nowbe part of your life and your
experience. And I think that that's where
the conflict can come up sometimes because people just
want a quick fix and it it doesn't work like that,
unfortunately. Yeah, thank you for saying that.
It doesn't look like that. And we live in such an age where
everybody wants yeah, immediately and they're not
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willing to even not everybody. But often there's there's no no
willingness to create the space for just 1020 minutes in the
morning or whenever to integrateto follow up with what you have
uncovered for them. And I also feel too, like I
think people assume that the moment they start feeling
better, they're like, I'm good now.
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And it's like, no, that's when you have to go harder.
That's why you have to go harder, because now you're
feeling good. You have to go.
Harder. Yeah.
Oh my God, yes. Oh my God.
Yeah. Tons of spiritual bypassing.
Like now I'm good, everything's OK.
We've done this part. I know it now move on.
It's like, no, no, this is whereyou have to go even further now
to see, like where this is leading in your life.
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Because the next time you have an emotional trigger or an
emotional upset, like you need to know how to walk yourself
through that and access that part of yourself.
And most people like to stay. Like I said, you're right where
that spiritual bypassing kicks in, where it's like, yeah, no,
I've learned and I'm aware. And like, this is this is where
I'm at. I'm good.
Yeah. Yeah, no, there's.
More I I've done that. I did that like 20 years ago.
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I was like. Did you?
How did you? I don't need to.
I'm fine, I'm fine. You know, I'm 50 now.
So when I was, you know, youngerI and doing my spiritual work,
I, I would reach this point, youknow, through my, my own
practice. And it was pulling the wool over
my eyes, right? I'm tricking myself into feeling
that are facing my truth. And then people arise.
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And then I started to a little bit question, OK, why is that
still coming up? Why is that still coming up?
And and then my higher self would be like, because you're
not doing the work. So true.
Well, it's true. I think that everyone can fall
victim of bypassing. I think that there's this
element where we tell ourselves when you're doing spirituality,
it's supposed to feel good, likeyou're supposed to be happy and
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it's not. It's supposed to feel real.
It's supposed to feel authentic.And there's a difference there.
And I. Think and that can be painful.
Oh, my God, yeah. I mean, learning how to be your
true self while you're operatingwith all these emotions.
And then the relationships that you have in your life that are
like, there's conflict there allthe time.
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Of course, you're going to have to sit with these parts of
yourself and you're going to have to have so much.
Courage and bravery to face it because you're going to get
rejected. People are going to think poorly
of you, especially if they're used to you being a people
pleaser or are you abandoning yourself or you, you know, being
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the light for others. And if you can't give them that,
that access that dopamine hit like and if you're not operating
as super positive or even like, I think I had this conversation
with a friend of mine recently. I was like, I was reflecting on
my last year and I said this wasa crap year.
Like, I was like such a crap year.
But through it, I like, really learned so much more about
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myself. And she was like, yeah, you
really had it hard this year. I was like, yeah, but I wouldn't
take it back at all. Like I think that it really
taught me to step in my power even more and recognize, even
though I thought I had these beautiful relationships in my
life and beautiful people in my life, that when you're levelling
up, you're going to have to let go. 100%, yeah, 100%.
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I had AI actually emotionally had a similar year, 2024, and it
was leading. It was kind of seeing glimpses
of that even the year before. But last year I really, I was
like, no, I have to make some significant changes in life and
they're sad. They're making me really sad
because the truth of that hurts the truth of the conversations I
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need to have, you know, and, andthe action steps and what needs
to dissolve as a result of beingable to level up and step into
this, the highest version of myself.
And it's often difficult to explain that to somebody who's
not experiencing what you are, isn't sort of attuned or or
gets, you know, that's the lingo, right?
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That's, I think very important. I like that you said too, that
you communicated it. I think because sometimes what
happens is when we're in it, we're not communicating that
we're in it and we're not communicating to others what
this change is going to look like.
And what you're, what you're changing as far as your
boundaries are going to look like and what you're willing to
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energetically put forward. Because every year that we grow,
I mean, just physically, physically or our, our energy or
age, we don't have the capacity for certain things.
We just don't energetically, andwe want to learn what that looks
like with our relationships and what we can offer and what we
can't offer. And that's always evolving.
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And so having conversations withpeople and giving them the
opportunity to redefine the relationship with you, I think
is so important. And if they're not willing to,
then you got to let them go. Absolutely.
And and that's hard for the, forthe other person because they,
they maybe they're not open. They haven't evolved to a point
where now you're matching, you know, or you're no longer you've
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one person's evolved and moved on and and that's totally fine.
But there's, there's such a, there's such a sadness, you
know? Oh my God, yes.
The mourning period of that. Oh my goodness, the mourning.
I've been mourning for, I think a year and a half now, just the
version I was, the, how I was operating, what I, the, the
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thoughts that I had where I thought I was, was heading.
And I really had convinced myself like, I'm good, but this
is good. I'm happy.
And then I was like, oh, no, no,no, there's something wrong.
And I knew it because it's like,it's like at the back of your
head, you know, you hear it, right?
And I would hear my guides and Iwould hear my angels and I'd
pray and you're like, no, I'm good.
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Everything's OK. Like and then like you.
Can treat yourself. I was fooling myself into being
like, yes, because I'm natural, innately a happy person, so I
could go OK, no, no, I'm good. I'm good actually.
Exactly. Exactly.
Yeah. And then they like they go, no,
no, you've got to. And they get.
Louder and they get louder and then they're like you said you
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wanted this and in order for youwant this is your purpose,
Chris, you got to move forward in this.
And I was like, OK, I'm scared, but I'm going to lean into it.
And that's kind of what the inner child work is.
That's kind of what the shadow work is.
It's like leading into the discomfort and being OK with the
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mourning of it, the loss of it, the understanding of it, the
reeducating of it, and then finding a sense of empowerment
in that. And then that I was like, now I
know why I'm ready to, you know,execute this.
Now I know why I'm ready to do that.
And even a couple of days ago, Iwas telling my husband, I'm
like, I still don't feel accomplished.
He's like, that's good. He's like, you're not supposed
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to. And I was like, you're right,
I'm not. I'm supposed to.
I'm supposed to learn more and educate myself more and figure
out what that's going to feel like.
And maybe it's not about accomplishment.
Maybe it's just about being me. Yeah, right.
So, so it was a lot, 'cause likeyou can get lost in that.
You can get lost in like the next goal and the next goal and
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the next thing and the next thing and you're like, you lose
your sense of who you are in that.
No, and then you lose living in the flow.
You lose totally being in the information with spirit.
And I love that you that you just mentioned that you go back
and do your own inner child workbecause we have to even even as
people who work in this space, you, that's how you can step up
and be the highest good for and really serve others is to
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continually go with inward and, and peel back those layers.
Because we're carrying so much, not from this life, but also
ancestral trauma and all kinds of stuff that we're doing work
for our descendants, but also our ancestors.
Yes. So it's funny because I was, I
was on vacation and most people who are on vacation, they think
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like, I'm just going to tune outand I'm just going to check out.
And I was like, no, this whole week I'm going to do salt
retrieval. Like I'm going to spend a whole
week retrieving parts of myself because now I'm hit a new layer
of awareness. And then that layer of awareness
I'm now going to access. I was like, I can't believe I
left that there. Or I, I gave this part of me to
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this person or, you know, so it was like bringing these parts of
myself in. And then I was like, OK, now I'm
ready for the next thing. So I'm always doing the work.
I'm always trying to like be really present with practice
what I preach because I don't want it to be a deception in any
which way. I don't want it to be like, oh
so positive and so happy all thetime.
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There is a lot of positivity that comes with this, but there
is also a lot of grief that comes with this too, because
you're going to mourn so much. You're going to mourn like what
your parents didn't give you. You're going to mourn the person
that you thought you were, friendships, relationships, so
much. But it's going to make you
whole. And that's what this works all
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about. 100% and then when we step back into our wholeness,
then we're really truly able to serve and, and attract and do
what we're supposed to be doing in this life, right in this
human form. So it's, it's actually, it's
really beautiful. It's really beautiful work
because it always come, I would say to my clients, this work
comes from the highest place. It comes from source.
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We are held in love, in loving awareness.
And that's, that's what this is about.
It's about moving you into this space of complete wholeness so
you can really show up, you know, And it's, I think it's,
it's difficult sometimes the phrase the truth of who you are
is hard for people to even understand, to grasp that like
my husband had a really hard foryears.
He's like, what do you mean by that?
I'm like, how long have you beenmarried to me?
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Like. Right.
But don't you just love that youmarry a partner who's just like,
no thanks. And then you're like, OK, we've
got to do the work. Like, OK, you got to do some
stuff. No, it's, it's hilarious,
actually, Yeah. I, I love it though, because
he's like my husband is, is a reflection of like safety and
(28:04):
protection and like, and then I can see where my avoidance is
like the mirror in like so many things.
And I'm like, OK, universe, thanks for bringing someone like
this in my life because he's always going to kind of direct
where I'm at. And I always have like an
opportunity to kind of be like, OK.
And then he's like then somehow all of a sudden it's like he
gets it. I'm like, OK, we're on the same
page again. This is great.
(28:25):
Now we're moving in the great, great momentum.
Like this is a good energy. We're we're healing again, you
know, so there's so many beautiful layers to that.
But yeah, the relationships, I think that we bring in our life
and our experiences, I like looking at them as like our
mirrors and registering like, I'm hearing what you're saying.
OK, now I've got to become awareof this and integrate that part
(28:45):
of me. Yeah, exactly.
So expand on what it means to mirror back something because I,
I think that again, is also a phrase that when you, when it's
explained to someone or presented, mirror, observe
what's being mirrored to you. Observe the kinds of behaviors,
whether it's in a relationship or just in your day and you
interact with a stranger in a store or whatever, Observe
(29:08):
what's being mirrored back to you.
So I'd just love you to expand on that.
What is this practice? So so.
I'm going to go in a, in a, in ain a range.
I'm going to explain a range of something.
So third dimensional thought patterns, when you're operating
in your third dimensional process, you're operating in a
separation, you're operating in like you against me.
(29:29):
And so healing is about recognizing that it's not you
against me, it's you and me, right?
And so when you register that there are unresolved traumas
within you and that this inner child is leading with a specific
type of energy, your subconscious is leading.
These parts of you are like vibrating and pulsating with an
(29:51):
energy. They have a momentum.
That momentum is going to bring in relationships because that's
the way that the universe can communicate to you.
And the universe is going to then show you you.
It's going to show you parts of you, good and bad.
(30:14):
Really the bad just means trauma, subconscious parts of
ourselves. So when a client comes to me and
let's say I'm working on making them understand the mirroring
process, I'm going, I'm taking your third dimensional thought
patterns and I'm moving you intoa fourth dimensional
perspective. Which means we have to unravel
your belief systems. You have to become aware of your
(30:36):
limitations. You have to see your trauma.
You have to see it. And the only way you're going to
start to become aware of it is by registering that every
interaction that you're having is a point of attraction to your
trauma. And it is you, which is so
difficult for a lot of people because they're like, what do
you mean? Like I totally brought in this
(30:59):
narcissist in my life and my experience.
How did this happen and how, howis this me?
And I'm like, look, I'm not saying you're a narcissist.
It's not so black and white. I'm saying that you could have
adapted behavior patterns that are similar to a narcissist to
cope with certain aspects of your trauma.
There could have been another aspect in your child or where a
(31:22):
caregiver was a narcissist and how you develop certain coping
mechanisms. Codependencies in that
relationship would then reflect back as to why you brought that
relationship in your life to experience.
And the more and more you understand that because I think
people's, the perception of a mirror is like, I see me, this
is me. It's all parts of me.
It's like, no, there's still an unraveling of understanding as
(31:44):
to why you brought that relationship in your life and
what that's teaching you about you.
That's right. And and also you could just be
in a store and then whereas you go, you're getting into an
argument with somebody. Oh my God, I only go wow.
That person was like this and this, and it's like actually
it's triggering something in youto mirror.
It's showing you as simple as a dysregulation within you.
(32:07):
So for you to, to match the frequency of an argument or to
match a frequency of something. So, you know, uneasy, it's like,
well, that's how dysregulated you are.
That's showing you that you needto come back to yourself and
regulate your nervous system, right?
And I, I, I know this because I grew up with such a
dysregulated, I grew up in an environment where there was so
(32:28):
much reactivity with my mother and like, I learned to be
reactive and I learned to just be dysregulated.
And so I couldn't understand until I sat down and realized
all the anger that I was manifesting in my life, all the
mirrors of these types of relationships, all these people
that were causing it's by dysregulation.
(32:49):
I have to sit with that and I have to figure out how to
regulate my nervous system. And when I started becoming
aware of that, only then did that change in my reality.
Because that's key. It's like that person could
still be angry, but they're not angry with me anymore.
And whenever I'm around them, I'm regulated and they're calm,
right? So that's the shift that we're
(33:11):
looking for. That also could mean too, that
that relationship dynamic or that person's out, they're no
longer around us anymore becausenow they don't serve a purpose
anymore. Totally.
Yeah, it's amazing how that happens.
Yeah, yeah. It's like.
Quick. Like what when you become aware
of something like I could think about last year for me and I was
like, Oh my God, I'm aware that this type of behavior, I'm being
gas slit right now. It's like narcissistic.
(33:32):
I'm like, Oh my God, how much did I give of my energy here?
And when I said no more, I'm no longer manifesting for others
and I'm going to regulate my nervous system, they were gone.
Isn't that interesting? Gone, cleared right out and I
was like, OK, now I have to mourn this because I thought
(33:53):
that that was a completely different relationship dynamic,
but now I'm registering. Oh my God, I was so dysregulated
in that. No wonder I was having physical
symptoms show up. That's another aspect too of
mirroring, right? Yeah, for sure.
Physical body starts to show allthe symptoms of what's being
mirrored emotionally. I know that's and that's really,
(34:17):
really painful. Yeah.
My God. Yeah, but also I think people
don't have the awareness of understanding.
Like when I have a physical symptom show up, it's 'cause
it's mirroring my emotional state.
Yes, it's still a mirror. So I still have to go into that
and figure out, OK, what is being mirrored here within my
physical body. And I have to become aware, like
(34:39):
if I'm showing symptoms of panicor anxiety or, you know,
dysregulation and I'm just pushing against myself and then
I'm just numbing myself or disassociating even more.
Like I'm re wounding my inner child.
I'm re wounding my sense of who I am.
(34:59):
And then the universe is like, OK, well, clearly you're not
paying attention to the relationships around you.
So now physically, something's going to happen and you're going
to have to pause, stop everything that you're doing
because you're so out of alignment to yourself that we're
going to have to pivot here to make you aware of what you need
to change. That itself is a mirror.
(35:19):
Thank you for so succinctly explaining all of that.
That's really great. And I have had those in my life
where a physical manifestation presents itself in a part of my
body that I've just literally forces me to go, what?
What's happening here? What have I absorbed from this
from this scenario that I'm not recognizing that's now causing
(35:41):
it And and you it's you can't explain that to another person
who doesn't sort of get how energy does this to.
You. It's like you can't go to a
doctor and say, my God, my leg is just, I'm in this insane
pain. I can't walk, I can't move.
I feel crippled. You know what's going on?
Because they can't it it's they're not able to manipulate
the energy to actually come in. And I use manipulate not in a
(36:01):
negative sense, but really understand what's, what's
presenting here, that your body is showing, you know, the signs,
the behavior or the pattern in such a way that's making you
literally stop, right? Just obsess and it's not like it
lasts for a year, it could be just a a few days.
Ago it could. Well, yeah, I mean.
Until you pay attention. The moment you start to become
(36:23):
aware as to what the pattern is that you're doing and how you're
operating and your thoughts thatare aligned with that, it shifts
instantly. Like all of a sudden you're
like, oh, I, I get it now. And then your body goes, OK, we
can ease, we can move now we canflow again, 'cause.
Now you're. Gonna change this behavior
pattern, but most people don't operate like that unfortunately,
(36:45):
because, you know, they don't want to see what it is that
they're creating, they just wantto.
Condition to not understand whatthat is.
You know, we're not, we're not raised in an, in an environment
in the, you know, at this time of human there we are, right?
We're just not, we're not in this space where we're educated
(37:05):
to tune into our bodies and to feel where we're feeling the
emotion. Whereas of settling in, in, in
your, you know, you've got a pain in your chest.
OK, maybe you're not actually having a heart attack.
Maybe there's something else, another manifestation that's
showing you something or a pain in your neck or your thighs or
whatever, you know? Well, one of the elements of
what I walk through with my clients is we sit with the
(37:27):
discomfort as much as we can. So I'll activate that.
So sometimes I'll be like, I learn we're in a session and I'm
like, OK, so talk to me about what's going on or whatever is
happening. It's like everything's OK.
And I'm like, I can feel the pulsation of like their stomach
or I can feel the pulsation of like something in their chest
brewing. I'm like, you know, I think we
kind of just have to sit with this area of your body and
(37:48):
they're like, OK, so we go into it and then they're, I lock them
into it and then they're like, oh, I didn't even realize I was
carrying that. And then we we go and travel
towards the inner child to figure out what that is saying
emotionally. So, so there is like framework
for this too, which is like really great.
(38:08):
And it really does shift a lot, which is really nice to see and
witness when someone gets that. Yeah, that's super fulfilling.
You know, I love that. It's beautiful.
It's it's you're doing really beautiful work.
Thank you. What are the other modalities
that you work in? I am a medium as well, so I do
talk to deceased loved ones. However, when I do speak to
(38:31):
them, I like to work with deceased loved ones in a scale
where we're talking about the relationship dynamic, the
triggers and the trauma and the family lineage.
If it's like tied to family, like if it's a friend, like what
the symbolism of that friend wasfor that person that's crossed
over. So when I am talking to someone
(38:51):
who's crossed over, I'm like, ifyou're going to come forward, I
need you to come with knowledge.And like we're here to help them
process their grief. And we're here to help them
understand what they need to continue working on an extension
of this process of their grief and what they need to focus on
(39:12):
as far as healing goes. So like, that's an aspect
because at the beginning, when Ifirst started working with my
abilities, it was very basic. Like I was like, I don't even
know if I want to do this because this feels uncomfortable
and uneasy. And I don't know if this is what
I want to do, but I was always being forced back enough force.
The force is the wrong word. I was just.
Being sort of guided back. Guided back to it, right, even
(39:35):
though I was in a state of resistance to it for a little
bit no, I know. And then right, right.
And then there's an evolution inthat.
And then it got, as I got betterat understanding emotion and
understanding trauma and workingwith people, like it didn't feel
good for me to just do a simple reading for you anymore.
I didn't feel like like this idea, like, what am I going to
(39:55):
line up with? And like, tell me what the
universe is like, what's the next thing?
And does this relationship like or this person?
And I was like, this doesn't feel good.
Like I don't want to just sit down and talk about some guy you
met, no offense to that person. And like, do they like you?
I want to talk about why do you feel that you need this
validation from this person thatyou just met?
(40:18):
Where is this trouble? It's about truth, right?
Right. Like I don't want to give
readings like that. I want to be able to give
readings. And so when I asked the universe
to heighten my awareness of thatand activate my full potential
of my gifts, they're like, OK, you're going to go through some
learning periods with this. So there's a lot of this
modality of talking to deceased loved ones, their guides,
(40:39):
talking to ancestors, reading consciousness and energy,
tapping into alien thought patterns, being able to
integrate soul retrieval in our child traumas, subconscious
emotion, motion emotions and patterns, shadow work.
So like all of that is my range.I'm also open to now.
I'm in like a 9th dimensional perspective right now.
(41:01):
And it's been really cool because I'm learning new things
and I don't know what that's going to look like or where
that's going to land with my work right now.
But all of these things kind of like lead to however that person
is showing up in my space, I pull one of those that they need
that they're potentially closer to vibrationally so that I have
the opportunity to work with them where I'm not pulling them
(41:24):
to a completely different vibrational stance because it's
too much, right? Like I can come in with a lot.
I have to tone it to meet them and then lift them a little bit.
So you have to learn how to, andthe word manipulate comes back
into it, but manipulation in a very positive way where we have
the opportunity for them to elevate their energy, shift
(41:46):
their consciousness and awareness through whatever
modality shows up. So those are just some
fundamental ways that I work with and those are my
modalities. You mentioned aliens before and
just now, and that's been a recent thing for you.
What are you? What aspects of this
consciousness are you working with?
So Palladian for sure, the Pleiades, which is very much
(42:09):
tied to like kind of working with Christ consciousness,
elevating the energy, but at thesame time really kind of helping
humanity work through trauma. They're very kind and loving and
just patient and understanding. It's just a really beautiful
energy to work with. I don't know the full range of
it yet because I've just tapped into it, even though they've
(42:31):
been telling me that I've had access to them as guides for me
for many years. They're like your awareness of
it wasn't there. I saw the whole style system
when you said the 80s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
beautiful. It's really, really beautiful.
And so I'm working with them right now and it's been
fascinating. Like it's still so much that I'm
(42:54):
trying to understand of what they want me to do with it.
But they're like, they're also right now I'm in a cocoon phase.
So they're, they've been communicating to me about your
upgrading your energy, your cells, your body, like your
diet, everything is changing. So you're half, you're going to
be tired and I'm so tired right now.
(43:14):
And I, and they're like, and you're not going to be working
at the capacity that you think that you, you know, how you were
operating before. You're going to be working in a
completely different element. But they haven't shown me the
visions of it yet fully. They've shown me glimpses, which
is really cool. So it's been, it's been fun
getting to learn, but I'm not fully there yet.
(43:34):
You know, I just know like accessing their energy and
sometimes they'll come in. And for instance, I did a live
event back in October and I'd had like 50 people in a room.
And I was like, OK, this is a lot of people for me to do
energetic readings on, but we'regoing to do what we can.
And my lady and guide came in and they're like, no, you're
(43:56):
going to do all 50. And I was like, excuse me?
And they're like, yeah, you're going to do all 50 and you're
going to do it in two hours. And I was like, OK, like, it's
on, you know, and it's learning to like lean into that and
trusting that you have the capacity and the energy to do
that. And within two hours, 50 people,
I've read them and it was like, all right, cool.
(44:17):
And everyone was like, this was a great experience.
And I and I was forming readings, talking to deceased
loved ones, their guides, their ancestors and doing soul
retrieval. Wow, you can.
Do that at the group in the roomor every single person every.
Single person, every single person.
And I was like. How many minutes were you
(44:37):
talking to each person? It was about, I would say like 2
minutes a person. Wow, and that much information
came straight. Straight in, let's do this.
This is what we need to integrate.
And the person would be like, and like, they'd lock in, which
was like crazy because their guys were coming in and they'd
lock in and they'd be like, OK, no, yeah, that makes complete
(44:57):
sense. You're right.
I'm doing this and I was like, OK, that we're doing.
This it's. Like such a beautiful fusion of
energy. So I'm really excited about what
that's going to look like movingforward.
Like I said, like this advancement in your gifts
because I love, love, love. I think like I'm a forever
student of the universe. And I think, like, for me, I
love being able to be mutable and be like, what works and what
(45:20):
doesn't work and lean into that uncomfortable because I don't
want to just pigeonhole me. Like I don't want to be like,
I'm just a medium, which if you are, that's amazing because
you're doing such amazing work, right?
But I don't want, I didn't want that for me.
I was like, I want the full range.
Tell me what this really looks like and how can I really make
an impact? And they're like, in doing this,
(45:42):
I think the, the most important part was like, you're going to
be faced with a lot of rejectionand you're going to be faced
with a lot of dislike. And I have been and I'm like,
and they're like, so we're preparing you for this too,
because there's going to be somereally beautiful experience in
this and there's going to be some people that are not going
to, they're not going to get it.It was similar for me and but
(46:05):
for my messaging was you have tomake a, there was a radical
change that I that I had to makein my life.
And that was really sad. You know, something that I
really had to contemplate for, for months, but for ages and
then and then this catalystic event happened to really make me
go, Nope, that's it you, that's it.
You've been sitting along in your human timeline
(46:29):
procrastinating about the messaging.
We've been telling you the action steps that you've been
asking for, and we're bringing this thing in to go.
It's time. Yeah, well, you're needed,
you're activated. That's what you're, you're
needed. Like like that's, that's the
other thing too. Like as much as we're, you know,
operating with the spiritual concept or this energy, like
(46:50):
when you're activated, it's because your soul knows and you
are needed 100%. And so sometimes like, like it
goes back to like let go of thatidea or that concept of who you
thought you were because there'smore to you and you're needed
and you don't know where you're going to be needed.
You don't know where it's going to take you.
(47:11):
You don't know, but you got to trust.
And hang into it. And so I think that's wonderful
that you went, as painful as that experience was for you.
And I'm sure it's still having some effects on you, right?
Yeah, 100%. It's right.
Gee, a comfortable experience. Yeah, last year.
(47:33):
Was it last year for you? So last year was a very big
karmic year for a lot of people.End of the year for me last year
and actually the build up was really the last couple of
months. Yeah.
So it was very karmic and a lot of people were experiencing
ancestral stuff and the activation like that grief and
(47:53):
that going through those karmic understandings, you're going to
have like a huge awareness of the why in 2025, which is like
what's happening now. And it's very interesting what
is going to manifest within thisyear.
I'm just going to say, if anyone's listening to this and
you had a year, I'm telling you it's it's going to get better.
(48:16):
There's a reason you are needed.You are being activated.
So, and it's your time. It's your time.
Exactly. Trust.
Trust. Just really trust.
Make the changes. Trust.
We've we've been waiting, we've been waiting for the call and
that's what people don't understand.
We've been waiting like like little soldiers.
We've been waiting on the on thelines kind of being like, OK,
(48:36):
when are you going to utilize us?
Like we're ready to kind of stepinto the game and they're like,
not yet, not yet, not yet, now, you know?
And so that's kind of where we're bridging this right now,
which I think is beautiful. It's amazing, isn't it?
It's really amazing time, actually, to be in human form
right now. Activate now.
Are you familiar with Diana Cooper at all?
Her. Work I yes yes I am yes a little
(48:59):
bit not much I don't know much but I I do I see I see her
TikTok I see I see like videos and stuff that people post yeah
and she does angels right she works with.
Angel communication, but also the Pleiades.
She's actually fully tapped intoother world consciousness, which
is really, you know, we can say alien consciousness, but I like
to refer to it as otherworldly because really, I mean, it's not
(49:20):
of this planet, but it's definitely of other planetary
systems. So a lot of Pleiades, we have a
lot of DNA, Humans, humans are, their DNA is very connected to
the Pleiades. And so she has a lot of other
stuff. But anyway, I listen to some of
her recordings too. Whenever I feel like I need a
major up leveling or I'm about to go through an up leveling,
(49:40):
I'll to listen to one of her. They're like hour long YouTube
OK? And I'm going to look into that
today and. See really calls like and, and
you can go on her website and you can look up the Pleiades
and, you know, listen to that one and, and they're, they're
really amazing. I mean, the, the visual, the way
she guides you through it all isreally beautiful.
You can see the I'm really working right now with
(50:01):
activating codes, like codes that are coming out of that I've
been seeing coming out of my hands and all around me.
And so I've been asking how, howcan I tap into this?
What? Why has this activated now?
And what am I supposed to be doing with these light codes?
So how can I integrate that intohow I work with other people and
for myself listening to some of hers around the light code
(50:24):
activations? So yeah, you might.
Yeah. No, definitely.
I'm going to look into that today.
I definitely look into that. That's beautiful.
But yeah, light codes too. Yeah, activation light codes,
all of that as well. Yeah, I've, I've been, I've been
kind of tapping into that as well, which has been really
cool. But also how that's kind of
leaning into working with the inner child and shadow work too,
which has been like, like, I still want to stay in that
(50:45):
frame, but in a way where it hasmutability, right?
Because I want to be able to help people access that aspect
of themselves. And it doesn't need to be
complicated, right? Like I'm complicated in the
sense of like all the different modalities that I'm operating
with at just like yourself, you've got the complexities of
all that, but you have like all these beautiful tools that you
(51:09):
can meet someone with and be like, OK, I'm going to pull this
one out. I'm going to do this and we're
going to see how this works for your energy and how that's going
to help you heal. I think that's where that
activation's coming from. I think more and more people
have to become aware of the changes and the shifts that are
happening. Yeah, absolutely.
And So what offerings have you got?
(51:29):
You've got your YouTube channel,you have a lot of things on your
website. You've also got the Solve 5.
You have your podcast. Yeah, they share all the things
that you. So I do one on ones, I do a lot
of healing sessions, I do group events.
I do like workshops and all of that as well.
And then I have Soul Thrive, which is a membership platform,
(51:50):
and I teach every Saturday in there various topics on trauma,
inner child healing, which has been really lovely because I've
built a beautiful community of people.
And I just launched my podcast about six or seven months ago,
and that's been a lot of fun. And it's been like a learning
curve for me too. But the fun part is connecting
(52:11):
with new people, which has been really, really beautiful.
And we talk a lot about inner child work and shadow work.
Yeah, that's kind of what I do. Well, and So what is your
website? Www.christinaprokos.com.
OK, awesome. And is there anything else you'd
like to share? Any you know about soul
retrieval work or inner child orjust you know, healing or
finding your truth in general? I think that I just want people
(52:34):
to have a little curiosity, justa little curiosity right now
about where you would want your life to to go and what that
would look like. And maybe the inner child has
the opportunity to access that wisdom and that insight.
So just be curious, be curious alittle bit to like get to know
you on a different level. Thank you.
(52:56):
Thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciated this conversation so much.
It's been. Wonderful.
Awesome. It just totally flowed.
It was so good.
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