Bridgerton Season 3, Pt. 2 with Devon Hamilton

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Susan (00:07):
Hello and welcome to the conversation with Susan and
Whitney, the podcast where twofriends from college discuss
shared interests, insights, andhow we're navigating our lives
today.

Whittney (00:16):
This is an ongoing conversation about how we're
surviving and thriving.
We discuss the important

Susan (00:22):
and the trivial

Whittney (00:22):
and other fun topics in between.

Susan (00:25):
I'm Susan Field, a writer and teacher in Philadelphia,

Whittney (00:27):
and I'm Whitney Gould, a writer and marketing director
in New Hampshire.

Susan (00:37):
Whittney, you're the kind of friend who gets every shade
of Penelope green nails andinspires me to consider making a
more creative statement with mynext manicure.

Whittney (00:46):
Oh, Suze, thanks.
I try silly things with my nailssometimes, but, Penelope
hopefully would be proud.
Suze, you're the kind of friendwho inspires us to come up with
really creative names for likesand dislikes that are perfectly
Bridgerton themed.

Susan (01:02):
So on today's show, we're going to review episodes five
through eight of Bridgertonseason three, which tells the
love story of Colin andPenelope, otherwise known as
Bridgerton.
Whittney, you're our in househistorical romance expert here.
You've read the source materialby Julia Quinn, so just as with
our last recap, wheneverpossible, you're going to make
some parallels to the novel,

Whittney (01:23):
yes, I absolutely will, and I can't wait.
We're excited to say thattonight we are also joined once
again by our special guest.
we're calling our podcast sisterand soon as she is your real
life sister, Devon Hamilton.
So welcome Dev.

Devon (01:37):
Hello, so happy to be here for our discussion of the
much anticipated second half

Susan (01:43):
Where we left off last time we had recapped and
reviewed episodes one throughfour of season three.
They separated the season thistime.
So where it left off, we wereall craving more.
We wanted more of thosefantastic costumes, more humor
from the Featherington sisters,more of the plot, and obviously
more steamy carriage scenes fromPollen.

(02:04):
So did this installment live upto all our yearnings and our
expectations?

Whittney (02:09):
Dev shared that her friend had said that.
Even though she had read thebook, she was considering the
show to be a completely separateentity, and for this, session of
four episodes, I am completelyin that camp now, because the
plot has shifted enough from thebooks that I'm starting to view
them as Complimentary, butseparate storylines.

(02:33):
We've gone out of order from thebook series, and there are
enough shifts in even thisstory's plot, and shifts to set
up future stories that, it's notreally a faithful or super
faithful adaptation for meanymore.
That being said, both the booksand the show have their merits.
I just am not comparing them tobe like twins anymore, if that

(02:56):
makes sense.

Devon (02:59):
Yes, I This second half of the season met my
expectations in a different,surprising way from the previous
seasons.
This season ended up being lessof a love story about a man and
a woman and more of a love storyof a woman with herself.
Penelope owned who she was, shecame to terms with her mother
and her sisters, and she mendedthe key friendship in her life

(03:20):
with Eloise Bridgerton.
And through all of that selfdiscovery and actualization, she
also fulfilled her dream ofmarrying and being loved by her
beloved Colin.
So this was a surprising turn.
I didn't see this coming.
I was expecting this solelyfocused love story between
Penelope and Colin, and actuallyI've enjoyed Penelope loving

(03:42):
herself the most of all.
That's been the most rewardingpart of this season.
This season of self empowerment,especially the second half,
Penelope's example is inspiringsome of the other characters too
to create.
more connection with each otherand to search for what it is
that their spark is, what theirpassion and talent is, and let
that lead their lives a littlebit more.

(04:03):
So Penelope was a great examplefor a lot of people in LATAM,
and she was very inspiring.
And Penelope's actions took mylove for the character on to a
whole nother level, and I was soexcited to see where she ended
up at the end of this season.
And even though I was missingsome of those extra steamy love
scenes that I really wantedbetween her and Colin, the bold,

(04:25):
articulate, triumphant speechthat she gave at the end was
enough to satisfy me even morethan maybe a passionate love
scene would have.

Susan (04:32):
Yeah.
Steven, I want to echo yoursentiments.
The season was surprising inthat I never expected it to get
to this level of empowerment.
I was pleasantly surprised withthe way the season turned out
and I felt myself wanting tostand up and cheer.
I was like, go Penn.
Go women.
And even Colin really seemed tocome more into his own as well.
This season ended up beingreally inspirational and it

(04:54):
almost feels like Bridgerton allgrown up.
It's not just about these lovescenes and a man and a woman
connection.
You're right.
It was more about relationshipsin general and a love for the
self and how that can affect andimprove everything else around
you.
I really loved the way that thisseason evolved and it was
triumphant to use your word,Devin.

Whittney (05:14):
For this recap, we've decided to organize it a little
bit differently than we did ourfirst one.
In our first episode, we did alot of plot summary, But in this
one, we're going to share whatwe're calling our butterflies
and our bee stings.
So butterflies are things thatwe like.
Bee stings are things that justdidn't, hit us the same way.

(05:35):
And we're going to use those asa jumping off point for
discussion.

Susan (05:40):
That's right.
We have to credit Devin forcoming up with this plan.
butterflies and bee stings,which is essentially cheers and
jeers Bridgerton style.
And as Devin pointed out to me,Penelope was our butterfly of
the season.
She blossomed more than weimagined and, was liberated.
And it's also a reference, tothe glorious butterflies
released at the Danforth FinchBall, which I loved.

(06:02):
And bee stings have always beena negative on the show since
Lord Bridgerton was fatallystung by a bee.
So let's discuss our butterfliesare the things we love for
episode five, which is calledtick tock, there was a timeline
here.
For Penelope to admit to Colinthat she is Lady Whistledown,
Eloise placed this timeline onher and it was a tension filled

(06:22):
episode.
I love many things about thisepisode.
I really loved how Colin'sstory, stood up to Mrs.
Featherington because sheaccused her daughter of
entrapping Mr.
Bridgerton.
And he said, your daughter didnot entrap me.
I proposed to her out of love,nothing less.
And were you not so narrowlyconcerned over your own
standing?
You might see that Penelope isthe most eligible amongst you.

(06:44):
And in the future, I advise younot to sully our Bridgerton
name.
I love that someone finallystood up for Penelope because
one of the things that botheredme so much.
For most of her character art,but in the last or the first
four episodes, I was like, whyis no one standing up for this
one?
Why is everyone letting her bewalked all over?
So I loved that Colin finallystood up to her mother and in

(07:06):
general, stood beside Penelope.
And Colin admitting to Penelope,the reasons that he loves her.
She's so clever.
She's so brave.
It's not a superficial love.
He really appreciates the thingsabout her that we've always
seen.
I liked the way this love storydeveloped in this season with
Colin and Penelope feeling seenby each other, but also starting
to see themselves.

(07:27):
And it was beautiful to watchthat come together.
And, last thing I'll share isthat I love the tension in this
episode, how it was buildingwith that tick tock at the end.
There was so much anxiety andall these, big bombshell
moments.
We had, Penelope having a panicattack, cantonese shared the
news that they're having a baby.
Cressida announced she was LadyWhistledown.

(07:48):
It was like, mic drop.

Devon (07:50):
You bring up a really good point too, Susan, about
Colin standing up for Penelopeto her mother.
And we see these steps that wheneach person makes a bold move
out of their comfort zone, itseems to have a chain reaction.
So when Colin defends Penelope.
It puts Lady Featherington inher place, but then she starts

(08:12):
seeing herself and the world alittle differently.
She changes her ways towardsPenelope and the sisters, and
these things one by one affecttheir relationship with each
other.
So it's all about when peoplespeak out for for the injustices
that they see and hear, theyembolden other people to make a
change.
And there's been a positivereaction throughout the rest of

(08:34):
the season because people aremaking these moves.
So that's a great butterflymoment, a blossoming moment for
our characters.

Whittney (08:42):
So I agree with what both of you have said about
Colin standing up for Penelope.
This is one of the, maybe few,Parts about, the show that I
think are better than the bookfor me, because in the book, the
reason he stands up for Penelopeis because, Portia assumes that
he wants to propose to heryounger sister, Felicity, who

(09:04):
isn't part of the show.
When Colin comes to ask Portia,to if he can marry her daughter,
she assumes that, it's Felicity.
And so that was the impetus.
And that's another, womanagainst woman pittance, while
that happens and while that'svery believable, this was better
because it was just Colin andPenn against the world, and so

(09:28):
it was a much stronger scene forthat reason.
I also love that, Colin kind ofhas a history of this in his
character from season one on,right?
Because, He stood up for Marinaand he was, trying to speak out
and save Marina.
And then in season two, withCousin Jack, he came to Penelope

(09:49):
and to Portia to let them knowthat Cousin Jack was a
scoundrel, this feels very trueto his character.
And so we know that he's notjust doing this because he, has
ruined her, so to speak.
Like that this is his genuinefeeling.
I think that that in thisepisode is the winner.

Susan (10:08):
I loved what you said about there being a chain
reaction.
As soon as Colin stood up to themother, all of a sudden she was
snapped out of a daze.
She had been in this pattern ofbelittling Penelope.
And as soon as someone was like,Hey, listen up.
This is not how you treat yourdaughter.
And correct yourself.
She did.
I was really surprised and happythat she was receptive to it.

Devon (10:30):
It also reflects on the standing of the Bridgertons.
We can tell even those of us inthe audience who haven't read
the books that the Bridgertonfamily is like the gold standard
and they have this integrity andthe characters are Anthony and
Colin, especially in thisseason, are always searching and

(10:51):
striving for that integrity andtrying to uphold what they think
is right.
They always say the line, I aman honorable man, therefore I'm
going to do this.
And so someone of that integrityand that standard of the
Bridgerton name, is what Sayingthat to Lady Featherington
really, it did.
It helped snap her out of it.
And she realized that she needsto change her ways because at

(11:12):
this moment now she's going tobe an extension of the
Bridgerton family.
So maybe this is a chance forher to have her own evolution.
because she's going to be seenby society in a different way as
well, so then hopefully herbehavior can start to reflect
that.

Whittney (11:28):
Yes, in the show, Penelope and Portia have a much
deeper relationship from thispoint forward than they do in
the books.
It's very true, to Portia'scharacter that if, Penelope had
said those same words that Colinsaid, To Portia, she would have
dismissed it, but because she'sbeen trained in society to take
the word of a man over a woman.

(11:49):
That's at play here too.
And even though that'sdisappointing, once it happens,
she does over time, learn torespect the voice of a woman

Devon (11:59):
yes, you're right about that, about a man having to
speak out in order for it totruly make an impact on someone
with that sort of mindset thatLady Featherington has.
A butterfly moment would be Weget a great, we get a strong
love scene between Colin andPenelope, but wrapped up in that
is the bee stink.
I kept asking myself, can Penand Colin not find somewhere

(12:23):
that isn't cramped andconstricted to express their
love?
I imagine that would be a lushcarpet on the floor or a blanket
on the floor would allowPenelope to have a little bit
more of a liberating experiencethan this confined corner of
this velvet lounge bench.
I was watching it this episodewith my husband and we were

(12:44):
laughing about the awkwardnessof this Staying on this bench
and Penelope the whole time isshe's in a semi seated position
she's never able to fullyrecline because the back of the
chair, this lounge chair, isprohibiting her from doing so.
And so while it was a veryintimate moment, and Penelope is

(13:09):
asking what she can do, and shewants Colin to teach her, and
they're having a very intimateand beautiful exchange between
the two of them, at the sametime I was having trouble.
enjoying it because I justwanted her to be able to move a
little bit and lay back a littlebit.
Whenever they had their intimatemoments, when they had their
steamy moments, it was in acarriage, it was on this little

(13:32):
bench, it was against a door.
I wanted them to have a fullblown lay out in the bed type of
sex scene.
And we didn't get.
We didn't really get that, infull view.
We just got a little snap of itat the end, but.
So that was a bee sting for me.
I want Penelope to have a great,comfortable, bedroom sexual romp

(13:53):
without a lounge chair keepingher sitting upright.

Susan (13:58):
I'd agree with you on that.
It was tastefully done beautifulreally with the mirror and even
Penelope at one point takingcharge, like, tell me what to
do.
So again, her asserting herselfand taking that initiative and
blossoming into her own there.
And something that developsthroughout this entire story arc
is the two of them as apartnership.
But I agreed with you about thefurniture dev.

(14:19):
I was thinking with the carriagescene when the carriage driver
stopped and Colin was like, canhe not keep driving?
I was like, can they not find abed?
You're right.
Why can't they have that?
That space.
Maybe there's some symbolismhere, they're in these cramped
spaces and then by the end, thelast love scene that they show
they were in a bed and more roomto expand.
But in contrast, we haveBenedict he's just rolling

(14:41):
around on an open bed andthey're like all over no holds
barred.
So it maybe symbolizes somethingabout their characters.
And it's a slow unfurling withthe characters.
Penelope and Colin.
They get their time a little bitlater, when they're able to roll
around on the bed.

Whittney (14:56):
In the books, they have more love scenes, not just
the carriage scene and this one,there's a Bridgerton drawing
room scene.
That's not a complete sex scene.
And then they're big, sex scenemoment is actually in a bed,
Seuss, so I'm not sure why theydeviated from that plot point
because I agree with everythingyou just said, this furniture

(15:18):
did not look like the best,place to perform this action.
The reason I think they did itin the way that they did is
because the mirror scene issomething is a reference Colin
makes in the books in the fullblown love scene and in a room,
which happens actually aftertheir engagement ball.

(15:38):
They sneak away, to Colin'sbedroom and that's where it
happens.
and he says to her, I want to doit in front of a mirror.
and, but they say they'll dothat next time.
So it's kind of a tribute tothat in the book.
I know you were wondering ifthis was the scene where they
broke the furniture and there isan Instagram post that shows
that this was the furniture thatwas broken, they broke the leg

(16:00):
off of it

Susan (16:02):
When I heard that interview that Nicola and Luke
had broken furniture, I waswaiting for this, passionate
love scene where, they're thrownup against the bed or whatever.
But I was like, wait, they brokethe furniture on this.

Devon (16:14):
Very little movement.
It was a

Susan (16:15):
yeah, there was very little

Devon (16:17):
very little little movement in this sexual episode.

Whittney (16:21):
So this might be an unpopular, two opinions, my
other two bee stings, butCressida storyline, I didn't
really like Cressida in thebooks.
And so I guess she is better inthe, the series because, she's
very interesting to look atalways.
Let's, let's be real with herinteresting, elaborate hairdos

(16:41):
and, her fashion choices.
But, I kinda don't love herstoryline this year cause it
feels very oppression centered,like mean girl reacting to
oppression kind of deal.
And, the other thing is the, theCanthony baby news, I just
couldn't get excited about, andI felt awful about that, but

(17:03):
that just felt extraneous.
They were trying To make it athing, but I could not muster
the energy to care.

Susan (17:10):
I wondered why they chose to share the news during their
brother's engagementcelebration.
It seemed a very odd time toshare this news.
It made sense, I guess, with theway the scene was going, what
more bombs could we drop duringthis last episode with the clock
ticking?
So I get why the writers choseput that there, but it seemed
like poor timing to take thespotlight away from your brother

(17:32):
and Penelope.
I didn't like the way theyreleased the news.

Devon (17:37):
That was something that is a through line in a lot of
this season that didn't setquite right with me.
In that there were so many extrastorylines distracting from what
was Penelope storyline.
that some things seem sort ofthrown away, some things seemed
a little extraneous, and thereseemed to be a lot of overlap

(18:00):
between the siblings experiencestepping on each other's
moments.
And that part felt a little offto me about the season, so many
things happening at the sametime, and each sibling not
really getting their own time toshine, but things overlapping.
And I guess that can happennaturally in a family, but.
I thought maybe as siblingsthey'd give each other a little

(18:21):
bit more space because they havesuch a loving relationship

Whittney (18:24):
the only thing I can think about is back then, that
was news you would hope peoplewould drop at any second,
because that was the entirepoint of getting married was to
create a family.
So maybe it was more common toshare that kind of news than it
is now.
And so maybe it wouldn't havebeen considered a faux pas.

Susan (18:45):
Okay.
That's a good perspective.
Dev, I know you and I agree thatwe like the Cressida storyline.

Devon (18:51):
Cressida's storyline, I am here for it.
I am here for it.

Susan (18:54):
She was one of the most, visually intriguing characters.
And, I didn't always loveeverything that she said or did,
but she was a interestingcharacter that added a little
spice to the season.

Devon (19:06):
She was absolutely one of the breakout stars of the season
and I felt that she almostovershadowed or ran away with
this season in some ways for me.
That her scenes really left animpact and Jessica Madsen's
portrayal of Cressida and herconflicts and what was she was
going through.
There was something about herthat suddenly she had an
interest in a gravitas and apull about her.

(19:28):
She was one of the highlights ofthe season for me.

Whittney (19:30):
I totally agree that she's very interesting to look
at, but maybe because she wasnot an empathetic character in
the books, if they were going tochange her, I wish they had
changed her.
Maybe even more so than, thanthey have.
They've definitely given hermore depth and the, actress has

(19:50):
done a phenomenal job.
giving that character somelayers.
It's just, the character ingeneral is not super likable all
around.

Susan (20:03):
But we needed a foil, so Whittney, I know that we've
already talked about some of thedifferences or parallels between
the source material.
Is there anything else from thisepisode that was different in
the book

Whittney (20:13):
The biggest one is that Colin knows, Penelope as
Lady Whistledown before heproposes.
So he finds out, before thecarriage scene happens.
Cause they're arguing and thatpassion turns into the carriage
scene, love scene.
So that's a huge differencebecause entire second half is
built around trying to keep.
Colin from finding out thisinformation.

(20:35):
The challenge to unmask LadyWhistledown is not given by the
Queen in the books because theQueen isn't really that big of a
character.
She is a much, character in theshow than she is in the books.
Lady Danbury is actually the onewho throws out the challenge and
basically says let's be donewith this and figure out who

(20:56):
Lady Whistledown is.

Susan (20:58):
So the next episode, episode six is romancing Mr.
Bridgerton, which by the way isactually the title of the book
by Julia Quinn

Whittney (21:05):
My favorite part of this episode is Eloise and
Penelope coming back together.
And I've been wondering how theywere going to do this in the
show, because in the books,Penelope and Eloise do not have
any sort of falling out, andthere is not any sort of tension

(21:26):
between them at this point.
So I really loved this and Iloved that, it centered around,
what was best for Colin becausethat, is the only thing that
could surpass, theirrelationship for each other with
each other is, their mutual lovefor Colin.
So that was, my butterfly forthis episode.

Devon (21:45):
Yes, this episode, minus there being very little physical
intimacy, between Colin andPenelope, this episode is when
things really start taking offfor me.
And I want to call this episode,The Mother's Step Up, because
the scene between LadyFeatherington and Penelope.

(22:05):
was perhaps the most genuine andauthentic scene between any of
the characters I have seen thusfar.
Lady Featherington reveals herfailures of her own happy
marriage and sharing that hergreatest wish was for her
daughters to succeed where shedidn't in the marriage mark, was
truly a special moment betweenLady Featherington and Penelope.

(22:28):
And one of the best momentsbetween the two actresses
themselves.
Polly Walker and Nicola Coughlinhad such a quiet connection
between them.
They conveyed so much with theireyes.
They were having a connectionthat they hadn't had before,
that something had been missingbetween this mother and daughter
relationship that we've seen onscreen.

(22:48):
And they were finally able toconnect in a human and authentic
and genuine way.
And it was a marvel to see.
And it gave a glimpse of whatthey could have in the future if
they continue to nurture thisrelationship between the two of
them.
And we see it develop in thenext couple episodes.
And that was absolutely one ofmy favorite elements.

(23:10):
They spoke to each other withactual honesty and with each
other as equals.
The mother spoke to her daughteras, as a woman who's about to be
married and about to be on thesame level with her in society.
And they finally were able tosee each other for who they were
and the other mother who steppedup and I wanted to do my own
little personal cheer dance forwas Lady Calper stepping up for

(23:36):
her daughter.
And helping, seeing her daughteris in a desperate situation and
going out on a limb and steppingin and using her own agency to
try to help her daughter out ofthis situation that she's
created for herself with sayingthat she was Lady Whistledown.
And you saw the look in LadyCowper's face.
You knew she was going to helpCressida write the missive that

(23:59):
the Queen was demanding of herto prove that she was
Whistledown.
I was so happy because she was,she was doing a bold gesture and
showing her daughter clearly.
I love you.
And I'm going to do anything Ican to help you even dive into
this.
lie with you because I'm tryingto save you and we're on the
brink of disaster here, but youmean something to me.

(24:21):
And I loved that moment.
So both Lady Featherington andLady Cowper stepped it up.
The mothers really showed up inthis episode and it was
something I could get behind andcheer for.
So that was a huge butterflymoment.
Both ladies blossomed in theirown way.
Their characters had more depth,had more, had more emotion, had

(24:44):
more agency than we've seen inthe past, and it really helped
them come alive for me.

Susan (24:50):
Yes, it finally gave you that emotion and the depth that
you wanted to latch on to Dev.

Devon (24:54):
Desperately, I got it.
I was finally getting it.
The writers heard me.

Susan (24:59):
As for bee stings for this episode, we see here a
dynamic forming between Benedictlady Tilly and Paul Suarez, who
is one of lady Tilly's friends.
This was a bee sting onlybecause I didn't see this
coming.
And I wasn't entirely sure whythis threesome energy was
necessary.
But one thing I will say as aBeasting is, man, I miss Lord

(25:20):
Debling.
I'm like, wait, why did hedisappear and go on his
expedition?
He could have had Cressida.
I was hoping we'd see more ofhim.

Whittney (25:27):
That would have helped to redeem Cressida as a
character.
If he had swooped in and savedand showed her some kindness,
maybe that would change herbehavior.
On what you said about Benedict.
It is puzzling to me whatthey're doing with his
character.
They are potentially trying toshow that he is sowing all these
wild oats, like endlessly.
And, that that's why they'redelaying his story.

(25:50):
Cause his story was supposed tobe happening now.
And I don't know if it'shappening next or, or what the
deal is, but, I can't explain itbecause in the books his, he is
not, an LGBTQIA plus character.
He is, not as kind of openly,um, adventurous as, they make

(26:12):
him seem to be in the show.
he actually, ends up being acharacter that kind of likes to
be, um, not in society.
Later on, he then lives kind ofin a cottage in the country.
So, it, I think that they aredeviating pretty far from his
character in the books.

Devon (26:31):
And I agree with you, Suze, about Lord Debling.
The way some characters areintroduced and then dropped
without reference or explanationcan be frustrating.
I'm not quite sure where thedisconnect is in the writer's
room, especially when you'reright, Whittney, that Lord
Dublin choosing Cressida as hissecond choice would seem obvious

(26:52):
with the way that they weredeveloping it in the first half
of the season.
Cressida and Dublin would havemade a better choice.
A great match and it could haveredeemed Cressida.
Lord Dublin would have gottenthe wife that he needed to watch
over his manor while he goes onhis expeditions and it would
solve Cressida's problem ofbeing stuck on the marriage
mark.
So that was a bee sting for metoo.

(27:13):
We missed Lord Dublin and atleast we wanted some sort of
explanation about where he wentor what happened to him and why
he didn't want to hang aroundand snatch up another eligible
lady

Susan (27:23):
well, for episode seven, Joining of Hands, my butterflies
for this episode are I like theway the episode started.
It picked up on the cliffhangerfrom the previous episode where
Colin discovers Penelope in adark alley, sneaking the copy of
Lady Whistledown to the printer.
So this is when he realizesshe's Lady Whistledown.
Colin actually has tears in hiseyes and he's so angry and

(27:44):
Penelope is really mortifiedthat he discovered who she is.
And then we have another scenethat I appreciated.
The relationship between Pennand the Modiste, who knows that
she's Lady Whistledown, she's aconfidant and a mentor at this
point and on her wedding night,the Modiste says, there's no
such thing as true love withoutembracing your true self.
And that's really the, of thisentire season.

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It's all about, you have to loveyourself.
You have to self actualization.
You have to be your own personbefore you can have anybody else
or have a true partnership.
It summarized the whole seasonnicely.
And right after she has thisconversation with the Modis, she
runs into Colin again in DarkStreet.
I have to say, I was reallyenjoying these Dark Street run
ins because they were alwaysvery impassioned and a little

(28:31):
bit mysterious.
And then this leads to anotherimpassioned embrace where he
pushes her against the door and.
I like the heated moments here.
They turn from anger to passionso quickly.

Whittney (28:39):
Well, that's really like the push and pull of this
relationship, right?
It is such a deep love that youcan be so upset and angry one
second and it just like crossesback over.
That shows the tension betweenthese characters.

Susan (28:54):
Yes, and I was also pleasantly surprised that
despite Colin knowing she wasLady Whistledown and being very
upset, he was still going tomarry her.
And actually at their wedding,the Queen storms in to call out
that Lady Whistledown must behiding among the Bridgertons.
She's on their trail.

Whittney (29:10):
Yes, I, have to say one of the, small humorous
moments, of this episode was,when the Queen, was accusing the
Bridgertons of being LadyWhistledown and, I Saying only
the Bridgertons stay, Penelopeturns to leave and Colin's like,
excuse you, like we just gotmarried.

Susan (29:29):
Right.

Whittney (29:29):
you are a Bridgerton.
Thank you.
Yeah.
It's like, uh, you're in thistoo.
Usually it's a good thing to bea Bridgerton today.
It might not be because theQueen's calling us out.

Devon (29:38):
One of the butterflies of this episode, first, we just
have to call out the bride.
Penelope looked so gorgeous inher silk wedding dress and she
had such a glow about her.
And the bee sting side of, youof this whole thing is the fact
that she has joy in her eyes,but she also has the pain

(30:01):
because she still hasn'tresolved her, uh, rift with
Eloise.
She still has, she's feelingthat Cullen's just marrying her
because he's trying to be a manof honor.
She knows they've got thisconflict between them so that
the scene was very beautiful andlovely and we wanted this
wedding to happen, but at thesame time, It happened when she

(30:22):
had so much pain in her eyes,too.
Again, applauding NicolaCoughlin for striking this
balance of she's getting tomarry the man of her dreams, but
she's not getting to marry himin the happy manner she may have
hoped for.
That was frustrating a littlebit as the viewer, you're
rooting for Penelope, you wanther to have this truly happy
moment, and you realize or herhappiest moments are going to

(30:44):
happen after this wedding day,not necessarily this wedding day
being the peak of her, herhappiness.
But, A bee sting for me too,that I was questioning again for
the writers, why they werechoosing to juggle so many side
stories.
And I felt like Penelope andColin were getting shortchanged.
As well as Francesca's story,Francesca's story was suddenly

(31:07):
starting to be little tinysnatches, you see Francesca and
Earl, Kilmartin in thebackground.
And then Francesca and John getengaged and then they're going
to get married a few days afterColin and Penelope.
There's all those extra scenes.
They're very likable characters,Francesca and John.
They're visually appealing andstriking.

(31:29):
I wanted them to have their owntime on screen, not just bits,
pieces, and snatches throughoutthe episode.
It short changed both of thosestories that we wanted to
follow.
So And Francesca also, they adda little bit of attention where
Francesca seems to suddenly wanther own time and her own
attention and she wants thefocus to be on her but At the

(31:52):
same time, it's completelyoverlapping with what's going on
with Colin and Penelope, I wishthat the writers had possibly
set this up in a different way,where we could see each story
arc had a little more time togrow and breathe, and we could
settle into it and not just getthese very quick pieces of the
story.

Whittney (32:10):
I also agree with you very much, Dev.
Um, the Part about Francesca andJohn's story that annoys me the
most is the part where, they arepestering Violet to ask the
Queen if it's okay.
I thought that entire, aspect ofthe storyline was completely
unnecessary and completelyextraneous because it could have

(32:30):
been, hey, we're gettingmarried, hey, we're doing this,
more true to their characters,it didn't feel right for them.
And it doesn't feel rightknowing what I know about what's
going to happen with Francesca'sstory.
She doesn't like the limelight.
She wants to be away from it.
And I agree that I didn't likethat.
We had so much time and energy,diverted away from Colin and

(32:52):
Penelope.
Even Benedict's story, as we'vediscussed, I don't understand
it.

Devon (32:57):
Yes, the Benedict storyline, the writers can't
seem to make up their mind whatthey want to do with this
character, and it's causing meto doubt this character's
ability to anchor his ownseason.
it's Very wishy washy of whothis character is, and I
understand he's struggling tofind find his way, find his

(33:17):
identity, but at the same time,The writers seem to be
constantly changing their mindsabout what Benedict's identity
is.
In the first season, coming infresh, we didn't know anything
about the characters.
They seemed to jump in rightaway, hinting that he was either
a gay character or a bisexualcharacter.
And he was feeling comfortablewith exploring his feelings to

(33:39):
both sexes.
And I was fine with that andinterested to see where that was
going to go.
But then they dropped it.
Pretty suddenly in the secondseason, he had the short love
affair with the Modiste, andthen that was dropped without
mention again.
And now in the third seasonhere.
He's going back to having thisthreesome with both the man and

(34:01):
the woman.
We're just swinging back andforth and it's not so much that
the character's confused but thethe writers haven't decided what
they want to do with him.
And also, with his conversationwith Paul, Paul's trying to
figure out who he is, what hisinterests are, what his passions

(34:22):
are, and Benedict says, Oh, Idon't have any.
And I said, Really?
Because there was a wholestoryline about him painting and
wanting to be an artist andgetting into art school.
And then when someone asks him,Oh, do you paint?
And he says, No.
You're thinking, yes, you do.
What happened to all of lastseason where you got into art

(34:43):
school and then you were socrushed when you found out that
Anthony, paid for your seat.
And Eloise was encouraging youto do it anyway, because you
could still make it on your owntalent.
So suddenly they've takenBenedict's interests away from
him.
So I'm trying to figure out.
Who is this character, andwhat's he gonna be, and how can
he even anchor his own seasonwhen at this point in time, I

(35:06):
don't have any interest in himat all.

Susan (35:08):
I agree, Devin.
I'm a little confused too.
I couldn't tell if he wasactually bisexual or was he just
really into it?
Cause he was trying to impressTilly, I couldn't really tell
what was going on.
I wasn't sure if it was entirelynecessary other than, As we
said, to show he's really sowinghis wild oats and it's probably
going to take, a great love toget him to settle down and he's
really going to need the samekind of transformation or

(35:28):
evolution that Penn has gonethrough to figure out who he is
and to not hide behind, whopeople think he should be and
who is he, he needs to come upwith that himself first before
anyone else can love him beforewe can latch onto the character

Whittney (35:43):
Knowing what I know about his story, I think, you
just hit hopefully what they'redoing in a weird roundabout,
circuitous way.
which is they're trying to showthat if he has very few friends.
Fleeting interests in, maybehobbies or people.
His story will have a.

(36:03):
A long buildup, I don't know ifthey're trying to show A
parallel, like a foil there withall of these, love interests
and, hobbies.
I don't know, but, it, it'sstill quite confusing.

Susan (36:17):
Well, moving right along here, we're already on the last
episode of the season.
In episode eight, Into theLight, my butterflies are a
many.
We had this incredible scene atthe Dankworth Finch Ball.
Loved how Penelope paid for thisfor her sisters, but gave her
mother the credit.
Her sister's got everything theywished, including the orange and
purple ostrich feathers and thebugs, which we find out are

(36:40):
actually butterflies.
And of course, Penelope's speechat the ball, amazing.
Bravo.
The speech of empowerment ofself worth, basically that words
are power., she's going to aimto use her quill more
responsibly.
And then the release of thebutterflies, which symbolizes
this moment of liberation ofLady Whistledown and Penelope

(37:01):
from herself.
everything about this scene wasbeautiful.
And Colin, oh my God, Colinreally stepped up this season.
He says to Penelope I'm reallyproud of you.
And actually I think I've beenenvious of your success and your
bravery.
And I can't believe that someonelike you loves me.
And this was great.
He said, how lucky am I to standby your side and to soak up even

(37:25):
a little bit of your light?
Uh, I was like, damn, I loved itall.
I thought it was incredible.
I loved the way the episodeended where the lady whistle
down voice fades out andswitches to Penelope's voice.
it was beautiful visually andthe message behind it.
What a feel good, empoweringending.
It was a delight and I loved it.

Whittney (37:47):
One of my favorite, parts of this episode, one of my
butterflies was, the way thatColin comes around to realizing
that Penelope and LadyWhistledown are one and can't be
separated and that she's alwayshad this voice.
is when he goes back through andrereads all the letters that
she's written to him over theyears.
Because that was a tribute tothe length of time that they've

(38:10):
been friends.
And, and, especially in thebooks, this was a stronger,
more, highlighted, portion oftheir relationship.
So I really loved that because Ifelt like.
Just, Reinforces how deep thisconnection is and how, it was
right there in front of him allalong and it's, his fault he
didn't realize it,

Devon (38:29):
Yes, I loved Penn coming into her own.
This, This, Dankworth Finch Ballfelt it felt like it could have
acted as a series finale.
There was such a warm resolutionfeeling about it, where everyone
was being left in a really goodplace.
And it's the best way that youwant to leave a season, where
you feel it's reached itspinnacle, it's reached its high,

(38:52):
its point, and characters arewhere you hoped they would be.
One of the butterfliesdefinitely for me is the visuals
of not just this episode, butthis entire season.
There's been so many times whereI, can press pause and study the
details and the embellishmentsand the dresses and the colors.

(39:12):
For Lady Featherington and theFeatherington sisters.
They're always in scenes tooquickly because some of their
dresses are the most gorgeous.
And I'm really hoping that thecreators of this show are able
to put out a companion book.
I know many of our favoriteseries get a companion book
where it features The costumesand it features the production

(39:36):
and the set design.
And I would love to have anopportunity to sit down and
really study the colors and thedetails and everything that has
gone into this production,because it's truly breathtaking,
the designers have justcompletely outdone themselves.
It's such a visual feast for theeyes.
There is so much symbolism andthere are so many things that I

(39:58):
know that they've put in that Ihaven't caught.
This first time around I couldwatch the show on mute if I
needed to and just focus on thecolors and the details and it
would be enough.
It's so visually appealing and,it's a huge butterfly for me.
These dresses, you could just,eat them up and Lady
Featherington is one of myfavorite dress women on the

(40:18):
show.
On the screen and Cressida, hermoments of the season were such
highlights.
That power dress where she'scoming out to the queen as Lady
Whistledown.
Those are great, great butterflymoments.
As far as a bee sting, I waswatching this episode again with
my husband and I said, wait,they didn't show us what

(40:38):
happened to Cressida.
And Blake said, Yes, they did.
They showed her being taken awayin a carriage, and I was like,
what?
And so I paused, and I rewound,and then I saw it, and the flash
of Cressida in a carriagedriving away I had literally
missed it on a long blink.
I must have just looked down fora moment and I didn't even see

(41:00):
the scene and so that was alittle confusing.
It left me scratching my headbecause the writers went out of
their way to build an appealingarc for this character, having
us root for this character andsee the growth and we've
empathized with her and her painand her loneliness and her
desperation.
And then we get a long blink.

(41:21):
worth of a scene.
Her being whisked away in acarriage.
So that's a beast thing for me.
I thought that they should havesomething more for her.
I'll be interested to see ifthey continue her storyline I
certainly hope she isn't someonethat they just drop without a
mention again.

Whittney (41:35):
They definitely will come back to Cressida, they've
built her up as a character somuch, and she is one of the few,
foils still left, in this cast.
So, she has to come back in.
Also, I wanted to just quicklypoint out, butterflies symbol
rebirth.
And so I thought the release ofthe butterflies, um, at the

(41:57):
Dankworth Finch ball, there arelayers to the rebirth Cressida
will be reborn as well.
So, it's not just, Penelopebeing reborn, potentially the
Dankworth Finches, Because theygot their moment, right?
Portia had a rebirth.
Eloise Will be moving forwardwith a rebirth.

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Francesca, spoiler alert, willhave a rebirth.

Susan (42:20):
So one thing that was a little bit of a beasting for me,
was when Colin made a plea toCressida to drop the blackmail
that was really nice that hetried to do that.
And his speech was perfectlygood it made rational sense, but
I was like, that's never goingto work.
There's no way Cressida was justgoing to be like, Oh, you're
right, Colin, you're sorational.
I'm going to drop the blackmail.

Whittney (42:39):
And also Colin in general in this episode until he
has that moment of like, oh,wait, she's always been whistled
down, like sleeping on thecouch, that bored me, don't do
that to Penn,

Susan (42:49):
we wanted steam.
Can't have steam when they're at

Devon (42:53):
Yeah, he's like, yeah,

Susan (42:54):
Come on.
Penelope could have come out tothe couch.
They like confined spaces.

Whittney (42:59):
Yes.
Also, you're married now.
Like, who cares?
You know, get over it., this isyour, the rest of your life.
In general, it was showing thedownswing of his character,
right?
So that it could swing back up.

Devon (43:10):
It shows Colin thinks like a man and he thinks like a
man specifically in this era.
And in his mind, if he goes inand he makes a pretty speech,
this woman is going to back downand take back her, blackmail
threats.
And part of it is because hedoesn't understand and he
doesn't realize or is able torelate in any way how trapped

(43:35):
Cressida feels and how desperateshe is.
And that for her, this is theonly way that she sees to get
out of her situation.
She needs to have a source ofmoney in some way and her father
has taken away her dowry.
This is the only way that shesees to get it.
So she is at the point whereshe's just sort of biting at her
own chains.

(43:55):
She's trying to get out of thesystem and she needs money and
Colin's the source of it.
And so Colin was naive thinkingthat she would change her mind
just because he didn't reallytake into account her level of
desperation or understand itbecause he's never felt that
way.
So, Cressida didn't back downand Collin's plea didn't work,
but it worked out becausePenelope was the one who

(44:17):
ultimately had to resolve thesituation.
This was her, this was hersituation and she needed to
resolve it and she did and thatwas the best, outcome.

Susan (44:27):
And another bee sting for me was, um.
When Francesca kissed Sterling,their first kiss at their
wedding, first of all, I waslike, wait, is this their first
kiss?
These guys rushed theirmarriage, but never even tested
out their physical intimacy, youknow, just to see if they had
chemistry, like even a peck.
This was the first time we sawthem kiss.
That was a little weird that wehad had no development with that

(44:48):
relationship at all.
That was the first time we wereeven seeing them touch.
But then the look on Francesca'sface was like, something she
wasn't expecting.
And of course, this ends upbeing a juxtaposition to a
reaction.
She has to another character atthe end of the episode.
So I understand why they playedit this way, but I felt like we
got gypped with theirrelationship a bit because we

(45:08):
never even got to see.
Any real chemistry between them,other than that, they could sit
in prolonged silence I was alittle disappointed too, that
when they did kiss, it wasliterally a peck and then the
reaction wasn't what I expected.
Francesco was kind of like, Ooh,Ooh, that was it.
That's how I felt too.

Devon (45:27):
It was a little awkward, too, because it was very quick.
Again, the camera was on her forjust the briefest of seconds.
If I had blinked at the wrongspot, I would have missed her
reaction.
So I wish that sometimes thatthey would hold the camera on
things just a moment longer, um,to give them more of a meaning
as opposed to flashing away soquickly.

Susan (45:47):
What, what happens when Devin blinks?
We might miss plot

Devon (45:50):
Clearly, I, I miss all sorts of things, and

Susan (45:53):
They've got to, make, longer blink time on screen.

Devon (45:58):
A look or a, or a scene can't be less than a blink.
They need to, they need to holdit out a little bit longer in
order for it to mean somethingand for people to actually be
able to make sure everyone seesit.
For those, those who wereblinking, Francesca had a look
on her face, like she didn't getthe fireworks that she was

(46:19):
hoping for.

Susan (46:20):
There's a whole little plot development here where
Eloise asks if she can go withJohn Sterling and Francesca to
his family home in the Highlandsin Scotland.
But then Lord Kilmartin is like,Oh, well, it's great if Eloise
comes with us because, mycousin's coming with us too.
And they show Michaela Sterling.
And then all of a sudden itlooks like Francesca's world is

(46:42):
lit on fire.
The look that she gets on herface.
It's everything that she wasn'twhen her husband kissed her.
So Whittney, I really need toknow your thoughts on this.
can you talk about the sourcematerial?
What the heck is going on herewith this Michaela Sterling
character?
Why is she lighting Francesca'spantaloons on fire?

Whittney (47:03):
So this was the biggest, shocker for anyone who
has read the books because thischaracter in the books is not
named Michaela.
This character is named Michaeland it is John Sterling's
cousin, and it is a hugeforeshadow.
And so, the internet was ablaze,like did Julia Quinn sign off on

(47:24):
the gender swap, right?
Because this shows usFrancesca's story.
it's kind of a spoiler, but kindof not, but, obviously, uh,
she's not going to have ahappily ever after with John
Sterling.
And in the books, we don't evenreally know much about their
relationship because, it's kindof a footnote, it's a
background.
Note, because that's not herstory.

(47:45):
That's not the story of the bookthat focuses on her.
So the story of the book thatfocuses on her it starts with
grief, but, ends with, I guessit's going to now be Michaela
Sterling.

Susan (47:58):
Okay, so interesting.
Whittney, this is reallyinspiring me to read the source
material.

Devon (48:02):
Me

Susan (48:02):
So especially if we're going to have to wait a while
for the next, season to drop,but overall, that Michaela twist
really shocked me.
I was like, Whoa, I feel like myhead like spun around between
that and the threesome withBenedict.
I was like, wow, we're getting,we're getting a little bit of
something for everyone here.
But at the end of the show, itleft me with, okay, where do we

(48:22):
go from here?
What's going to happen.
I didn't know if maybe Eloisegoing to the Highlands, there
was going to be a love interestthere.
Of course, now we have thisMichaela Francesca storyline.
and now I'm very curious aboutBenedict.
Where does he go from here?

Whittney (48:38):
You've already met Eloise's love interest.

Susan (48:41):
no.

Whittney (48:42):
you haven't met Benedict.

Susan (48:44):
Okay.
Okay.
Nice little teaser there.
I'm now curious about who'sgoing to be the next Bridgerton
to have their love story.
I've seen a lot of things on theinternet.
I never know what's true or not,

Whittney (48:56):
so, it's definitely not Eloise.
It's either Benedict orFrancesca.
And I'm leaning toward Benedictbecause I know that Francesca's
story needs some time for theevents to unfold.
I don't think it's going to beFrancesca.
I will be highly surprised ifit's Francesca, but,, Benedict's

(49:19):
story is, a fan favorite.
And, Jess Brownell has said manytimes already that the writing
is already in full swing for thenext season.
Who will be featured.
They haven't announced yet, butshe said, it's the best rating
they've ever done.
And so my gut reaction saysBenedict.
And that's why this wholethreesome, Lady Tilly thing was
set up.
And that's why we have all theseseasons of his, him being a

(49:41):
bigger character in otherpeople's seasons than
potentially he would have been.
So if it's not Benedict, I'll behighly surprised.

Devon (49:51):
Do you think the season could be both Francesca and
Benedict?

Whittney (49:54):
Shonda said she will have eight seasons.
And there are eight kids andeight books.
So

Devon (50:00):
Yeah, that's a lot.
There's lots of Bridgerton.
It's a marathon, not a sprint,people.
This is a big commitment.

Susan (50:07):
It really is.
But it's beautifully done.
It's been really enjoyable towatch.
I really loved the actors andtheir performances in this
season and especially give ashout out to, Nicola Coughlin
and Luke Newton.
They did a fabulous job and Ireally hope that the two of them
get other roles in different.
Things beyond Bridgerton becauseI think both of them have a lot

(50:29):
of great strengths andqualities.
And I I'd love to see moreactually of all the Bridgerton
actors and outside projects.

Devon (50:35):
I saw something online about Nicola Coughlin filming
another series during the sametime that she filmed this
season.
big mood, there we go.
She had been on Dairy Girls,which was like her breakout hit.
I haven't watched that, but I'veheard wonderful things.
And then she came on Bridgerton,and now she's filming this other
show.
So I think she is only going tocontinue to rise.

(50:56):
I've heard that this season inparticular, the ratings have
been a smash.
it's Been extraordinarilypopular even over the other two
seasons.
There's just something verylikable about Nicola and people
feel very seen with hercharacter and she's just someone
different as a lead loveinterest and I love her.
I'm all for her.
I'm on the bandwagon of NicolaCoughlin all the way.

Susan (51:19):
me too.
Definitely.
I'm in full support.

Whittney (51:21):
Yes.
Same.
Overall, how would we rate theseason and how does it stack up
compared to seasons one and two?

Devon (51:30):
It's hard for me to compare these seasons now
because I was expecting them tobe following the same formula
and the second half of thisthird season was a departure.
And it was a refreshing one.
It was unexpected.
I loved the self empowerment.
I loved the confidence and thetriumphant ending.
Or we could say the triumphantbeginning of Penelope's

(51:51):
character into her new life.
And so it's hard for me tocompare the two previous
seasons, which I highly enjoyed,but they were definitely more of
a steamy romp.
And this was more of a selfactualization.
This season, it started off slowfor me.
And I was wondering about theleads.
I was, I was unsure if thisseason was going to work for me.
And it slowly, but surely builtup momentum and.

(52:15):
I started caring, and it endedat a high point with the Finch
Danckworth ball, and overall I'mreally pleased with this season.
It left me with a great feeling,and I want to go to the books,
and I want more.
So that's, all that the writerscould hope for.

Susan (52:29):
Yes,

Devon (52:29):
more.
Mm

Susan (52:30):
I agree with you, Devin.
I had a feeling of warmththroughout the last few
episodes.
It was warm.
It was uplifting.
I felt inspired, empowered.
It was just, just beautifullydone.
What you were saying, it got alittle bit of a slow start.
I actually think the way thatthey divided the season into two
different drops.
That wasn't helpful becausewithout having that Stop after

(52:52):
episode four, we could havecontinued and watch the arc
naturally develop.
It was hard, having that firstdrop and then having a month off
because it did get a bit of aslow start without that carriage
scene, that's really, whatcarried it through.
Some people might stop watching,it helps to have it all come out
at once for momentum purposes.
But, with that said, it was sucha strong season.

(53:12):
I really enjoyed it.
And it's hard to compare seasonsbecause They're, separate
entities.
They're all unique and strong intheir own ways.
Each season brings somethingdifferent and special.
But this one in particular feltvery empowering

Whittney (53:25):
the first two seasons were very, cohesive.
And the flow of the plot madesense.
This season that changeddramatically for me and the flow
of the episodes felt much moredisjointed and I think it's
entirely due to the fact thatNetflix asked Bridgerton to
develop the season to be splitin half like this, I think that

(53:47):
this was purely, a Netflixdecision that was communicated
to them and that the writers hadto make it work for that, but
that if they had chosen to dothe original single season drop
format that this season wouldprobably have looked a lot
different and that it would havebeen more faithful to the plot
and that it would have had thenormal, rise and fall of action

(54:10):
and, have more of a cohesiveplot with a rising tension
point.
Um, The book made more of animpact as far as a cohesive
plot.
And on this season, there were alot of these side plots that I
couldn't get behind.
I know we've talked about LordAnderson.
And I still don't understandthat, I think They're going to

(54:33):
spin off either a second seasonof Queen Charlotte, or they're
going to, do another season, aseries that is, Lady Danbury,
like childhood or adolescentseason, and they're going to
explore Marcus Anderson and,the, incident that they talked
about, about how she was tryingto leave and he told on her, so

(54:54):
I think that they might betrying to set up a spinoff
there, this season, while it wasgreat for its own reasons, it
didn't sing for me the way Ihoped it would.

Susan (55:04):
Those are really interesting points.
How the flow can really affect.
the season and we said beforeabout all the different side
characters there was a lot goingon and some of it seemed
potentially extraneous but I'dlike to think that the writers
know what they're doing and likeyou said maybe they're teasing
certain things but at a certainpoint they have to watch to make
sure that they're not trying tocook too many things on the

(55:26):
stove Devin in our first recapyou were really adamant about
saying that you wanted there tobe more for the characters to do
in general, and also moreemotional stuff for them to sink
their teeth into.
So I was curious, did you feelthat that ended up happening
this season?
And I was also curious if inparticular you felt that Lady

(55:47):
Featherington, the great PollyWalker ended up having more to
do and was more utilized in thissecond installment.

Devon (55:54):
Yes, absolutely.
It's incredible what happenswhen the writers allow
characters to talk for more than10 seconds at a time and give
them Several sentences in a rowas dialogue.
A character can actually revealsomething about themselves and
say something.
Bridgerton seems to have aspecial way of characters can

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talk and have a conversation inmultiple scenes and nothing is
actually ever said.
That seemed to be the hugetakeaway for us in Queen
Charlotte, characters hint atthings so much and they never
say them directly, which can beinfuriating to a viewer who
wants some actual storyline.
to develop.
And so in this season, we getthe wonderful Polly Walker.

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She gets her scene withPenelope.
She gets several scenes whereshe actually can express herself
and reveal something true.
A scene that really stands outto me is when Lady Danbury, she
gets two really strong sceneswith her brother, Lord Anderson,
and they harken back to theirchildhood and these unresolved
emotions and conflicts betweenthem and Lady Danbury, Because

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she gets to talk more than asecond, and she gets to show
actual emotion and revealsomething about herself, she
slips back into her nativeaccent for a minute.
And it connects to how she wasfrom, like, a royal tribe in
Africa, they mention this in theQueen Charlotte season, and when
she's impassioned and she'stalking to her brother, her

(57:25):
original dialect comes back in,and it, It instantly brought
depth and interest to hercharacter again for me.
So I was really happy that thewriters were not afraid to write
some meaningful, extendeddialogue for several of the
characters.
So my palate was quenched.
The thirst was quenched that Ihad for that.

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growth and evolution of thecharacters and just the stronger
bit of writing.
So thank you Shondaland forgiving me those wonderful
dialogue pieces that I wasmissing.

Susan (57:57):
The performances of all the actors were shining on full
display in these last fewepisodes.
And for what it's worth,Whittney, I really like Lord
Anderson.
He seems like a stand up guy.
I feel like he's very charming.
He's pleasant on screen.
So I'm curious to see what theydo with him in the future also.

Whittney (58:16):
I have a lot of unpopular opinions today, which,
Hey, I feel like normally when,the two of you are, not liking
something, I'm usually giving itmore of a chance.
So that shows my Bridgertonpassion, right?
That I'm just like, absolutelynot.
No Lord Anderson.
The end.

Susan (58:34):
It shows that you have connection to the source
material and we don't.
So we're coming at it from adifferent perspective because I
understand wanting to be loyalto the source material.
That's what, something thatyou're attached to and you do
form a different attachment whenyou read something in print
versus seeing it on screen.

Whittney (58:50):
I loved this book.
And so I think even though therewere changes that were positive,
that were made on the series, inthe end, I'm generally going to
be a person who prefers the bookover the screen adaptation.

Devon (59:02):
To head to my local library soon and add them to my
reading list.
I Look forward to having adiscussion with you again,
Whittney, about the sourcematerial.

Whittney (59:12):
That's a wrap on Bridgerton season three.
And as we discussed, because ittakes them two years to create
every season, right now they're,scheduled to release in 2026.

Susan (59:24):
It gives us time to read the source material in between
to whet that Bridgerton appetitethat we now have.
So maybe that's our goal in theinterim,

Whittney (59:33):
Yes.

Susan (59:34):
Let us know your thoughts on our recaps of Bridgerton
Season 3.
Do you agree or disagree withus?
Whose love story would you liketo see next?
We'd love to hear your opinions.
Please send us an email atsusanandWhittney at gmail.
com or DM us on Facebook orInstagram.

Devon (59:50):
Thanks again for having me on love talking with you
ladies.

Susan (59:53):
Thanks, Dev.
It's always a pleasure.

Devon (59:55):
And remember this is a marathon, not a sprint.
So we've got to pace ourselves,

Susan (59:59):
This is a slow carriage ride, not a fast one.

Whittney (01:00:04):
Um, yes, this carriage ride, this carriage driver is
taking the long, long, long wayaround.

Devon (01:00:11):
No long way around yet.

Susan (01:00:13):
Can the carriage driver not stop driving?
He's just going around andaround and around.
Oh my goodness.
Talk to you later.

Whittney (01:00:22):
Talk to you later.
Join us next time when we pickup where we left off and
continue the conversation.

Susan (01:00:29):
Check us out on Instagram at Susan and Whitney, or send us
an email at susanandwhitney atgmail.
com.

Whittney (01:00:34):
That's S U S A N, the word and, W H I T T N E Y.

Susan (01:00:42):
Our awesome music is by Offshane, and our scripting and
editing is by us.
Talk to you later.
Yay, I think we did a good job.