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March 11, 2025 31 mins

Comic book disruptor and entrepreneur Pat Shand joins John and David to talk about his journey into becoming a comic book professional, comic books being a lucrative creative endeavor, working with difficult licensors, the reality of having a prolific workload, and the good side of fandom. Also, John remembers to pay people.

Part One of Two.

Timestamp Segments

  • [01:38] What got Pat hooked on comics?
  • [05:07] Making more money in comics.
  • [07:46] Pat’s first paid gig.
  • [11:53] Getting paid.
  • [17:02] Pat’s imprints.
  • [17:25] New opportunities.
  • [18:35] Working with licensors.
  • [21:56] The Grimm Fairy Tales Universe.
  • [24:59] Working in editorial.
  • [27:59] The best parts of fandom.

Notable Quotes

  • “I’m shocked to learn that there is a creative endeavor that is less lucrative than comic books.”
  • “To make a living doing prose, in a licensed way, the output has to be insane.”
  • “I’ve got to make sure I’m doing this right for Mike.”

Relevant Links

David's Fun Stuff!
Did Someone Say Fun Time? Let's GO!

John is at PugW!
Pug Worldwide

Pat Shand is Prolific!
www.spacebetweenentertainment.com

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