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January 23, 2019 94 mins

This week Mats talks to  David Sobeski in a conversation that lasted for nearly 3 hours so it will come in 2 parts. In part 1 we cover: 

David talks about how he grow up in an American middle class family in Pennsylvania on the US East Coast. He talks about his early interest for computers and how he got his first computer as an 8 year old and started to program very early. 

David is also sharing the experience from his university years and he early on learnt to under promise and over deliver. 

He talks about the importance of being a user of things, to be a listener and never loose your eyes of innocence when building products and that there are no dumb questions. 

He shares the experience from one of his first jobs at IBM and how he worked on the first smartphone ever, the IBM Simon phone and also how he left IBM because he didn't want to wear a tie. 

He also talks about how it was to work for Bill Gates at Microsoft and how Bill Gates was in meetings and as a manager. He talks extensively about Microsoft and how a lot of strong technologist strived to build the best products and out beat the competition. 

We learn about David's time at Yahoo and why Yahoo never became what Google is today. 

He tells us about his close relationship with Steve Jobs and the conversations they used to have around future of computing.

He explains why it should be called Computer Art rather than Computer Science. 

Listen to a truly inspiring technologist. 


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