#117 - Cole Makin' Moves & 2 Smooth - The County Line

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
And we rollin'.
They see me rollin'.
Yeah, I mean rollin' and tryin'to get me ridein' dirty.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I went through your catalog online yesterday.
No, whatcha find the beats on.
What's the name of that website?
Beat Stars, beat Stars.
Yeah, I found a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
I found some a lot of shit that I could get on.
You found some Beat Stars.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, I found two or three.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I be likin' that.
I be likin' that stuff.
I'm gonna move it down a littlebit.
I'm gonna move it up and down.
I be likin' it, I be wonin'.
I like when people go andactually check out my body at
work, cause my beat star dog gota lot of trap beats on there,
though like straight up trap.

(00:54):
I barely got any R&B on there,barely, but I'm finna.
Change that though.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Where are your R&B beats at?
Just not on Beat Star, I keepthem locked away in a key.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Why you do it like that, I don't know, man, cause I
guess I have people who rap andtry to get a R&B beat and
talkin' about sliding andwalkin' down on somebody and
doin' this dead in the thirdtour.
I mean that just it don't makesense to me.
I never liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
This might put you between a rock and a hard place,
but the guys that you get that,come on and talk about sliding
with the Draco.
Will they really slide with themotherfuckin' Draco?
Hell, no.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Hell, no man, if they is they ever decided to crash
out?
They better leave me out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
This my thing.
If you're gonna to me, ifyou're really doin' it, you
ain't speakin' on it To me, youain't puttin' it on Wags.
But I mean, you know, you got afew people.
They just they liked it andthey'll talk about it.
Really, tell them some damnbout it right now.
You know what I'm sayin'.

(02:08):
I don't know, if I was doin' itI wouldn't be talkin' about it.
Sho wouldn't be puttin' it onWags, nah.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I wouldn't either.
Nah, it's frustrating to mebecause I feel that it's just a
copycat game at this point.
Like you know, if you hearGunnar or Future can't nobody do
it like Young Boy.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Ah shit, he, just he on a whole different level yeah
he on a different level.
Hey, young Boy say everything.
Well now he probably would saypiss on somebody, gray, he tough
nah.
Chicago post in Chicago, noneof that.
Oh bluh man.
I be listenin' to him.
He don't kill.
I be in the car.
I be in the car gettin' it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
That's like a push ice-ty.
Ah, shit man, what I fuck withpush ice-ty, even though I don't
fuck with killin' people.
Brrr, big brrr yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I like some of his Brrr yeah me lit I like Gardo I
can't listen to it all the time,though.
No, no, no, no, no, not all thetime.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Nah, I gotta have some jodicis, don't worry.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
And I think that's the problem with, like, the
younger generation.
That's all they're consuming,so like, and music is
influential, it's veryinfluential.
So if you listen to that 24hours, seven days a week, you
know you're gonna eventuallybecome it.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And it's a reflection of culture, like art is the
truest reflection of culture.
So the fact that I don't blameyoung boy for rapping about the
things he raps about.
He's just talkin' about hislife.
It's not his fault that he cameup in those circumstances and
freedom of speech is absolute,so he should be able to say
whatever the fuck he wants to.
But at the same time, there area lot of kids out there who

(03:47):
have been influenced andcontinue to be influenced by the
likes of Young Boy, poohShiesty, all these guys who have
talent, but they're speakingabout sliding with the Draco.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
That's what they, like you said they came up on
that.
It was exposed at an early age.
You got kids that are fuck youmama, I hate you, slam the door,
go in there and cut some damnyoung boy and then go out and
just they be on the sag and justthey thugging.
It don't work like that.
That's not being authentic.

(04:19):
You can't help the fact thatSome folks ain't blessed to have
both their parents in theirlife and take care of them like
that.
People like Young Boy.
They didn't have that.
I don't know a situation, Idon't really know a background,
but like Safe Inc, somebody gotbrought up sing them on In the
hood.
You're gonna re-expose thattype of stuff, you're gonna rap

(04:41):
about that type of stuff.
But if you are not exposed tothat, you were brought up both
your parents.
Whatever the case may be, don'tbe thugging.
I bet you just be legit andjust be real.
People gonna fool with youheavier than you trying to fake.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
These kids have nowhere to turn.
Look at Philadelphia, Jackson,to a larger extent Meridian.
Most of the violent crimesbeing committed are by juveniles
, and so they, you know theydon't have the and it's our
generation that has perpetuatedthis, because we've had a bunch
of children and we're not takingcare of them.

(05:16):
A bunch of our generation hashad children at an early age and
Children having childrenCorrect, and so now we're
reaping the non-rewards ofChildren not having parents for
an entire generation, and thegangs filled that void.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
I don't know though.
I don't know Because ourgeneration, especially males, we
more likely in our child's life, now Life for real, I noticed
it, a lot of us.
I noticed it, our generation,the males, yeah, we do.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
We done stepped up to the plate.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
We there now, unfortunately you got something.
That's not, but it's more.
Now.
It's more coming and that's anencouraging time.
Yeah, it's way more coming now.
I will say that Because nowcoming up, shoot, you're just
eating him.
My dad is one in my life, but Isee other people who father
wedding too.
That's what we had in coming,but now, shoot, I'll be chilling

(06:12):
man, I'm gonna have to get mybaby Get what he gonna say, and
I'm gonna go pick mine up too.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
That's your idea.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
It's so important, obviously, for children to have
Not only their dad but justimportant men.
I think about that all the time.
Whenever I get into a toughsituation, I think about first
of all what would Steve, whatwould my daddy do Then?
What would Coach Dice do?

(06:42):
What would Coach Jackson do?
How would these influentialmales that I had At a young age
handle this situation that I'min?
And it's modeling at it'sfinest, because, as human beings
, that's what we do we model.
And kids are so impressionableand so malleable that it's very
important for them to have Astrong male figure to reference,

(07:07):
not only when they're in theirchildhood, but to watch
throughout their childhood, sothat when they're 25, 30 years
old and they are faced withtough circumstances, they're
like okay, I may not know whatto do myself right now in this
moment, but I had X amount ofstrong male role models when I
was a child that I witnessed.

(07:28):
How would they handle thissituation?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That may seem we all got that influence.
Hell yeah, I ain't gonna countfrom coaches to Some of your
parents.
Friends that you call uncles,all that Play uncles that we
call them.
It takes a village and I justbeen blessed man.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I always had my daddy , uncles, so, granddaddy, you
know what I'm saying.
I got friends, best friends,like Siobhan, who I know didn't
grow up in the house With theirdaddy.
But I mean, at the same time,look how he turned up.
He could have used that as anexcuse To go off and do reckless

(08:10):
stuff and crash shots.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So, draco, you know what I'm saying?
Straight Draco, right.
I'm glad you ain't got thestick Hanging out the rental
code.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Hanging out the rental code I ain't got the
stick, I'll be sagging.
I have about four face tattoosand some dreads.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Getting them bodies.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
He could have been like.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, I ain't had no father figure growing up.
If you, ma'am, tell you besurprised, that'll be some of
the excuse.
Well, I ain't had no dad.
Well, that ain't no excuse foryou to turn out like Bro.
You still know right from wrong, though, bro.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I feel like you should use you not having your
father around To be like damn.
I don't want to be like him.
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
That's what I would think.
That's what I would think.
That's what I would think I'dbe like damn if I wouldn't be
like mine.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Hell to the no.
What a no.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Y'all see where Boosie disowned his daughter.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, yeah, I seen it .
I seen it.
What do y'all feel?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
about it?
How do y'all feel about it?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
But see, I'm a Boosie fan.
Boosie has always been myfavorite rapper, favorite.
Anybody who truly know me, theyknow it.
You know what I'm saying like,but that ain't the first time
that I have seen him.
Last shot on his Like I didn'theard like Bruh.
They have all kind of stuff onYouTube Like they years back,

(09:32):
like when Boosie flashed outLike he flashed.
I'm talking about Ah blackie,ah dude, it like they say,
that's just how it is when heflashed out.
But I don't know, man, I don'tfeel like we know the full, the
full story, to what extreme itgot Took to.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I mean in his song Ungrateful, he tells that girl's
baby mama that he was.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
He was Basically flipping her with Bleak, with
Bleak yeah, but if you, if hegot a song that's what he was
talking about in the song.
I forgot what song it was like.
Uh, how the fuck did it go?
It's a old, we all know it.
I can't thank it, and he waslike we had in the backseat.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I can't remember what song it was About to rip ass
apart.
Nah, I went that one.
Wasn't Distant.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Lover.
He was like we left her shakingin the sheet.
Uh, he was talking about himand Bleak then.
She said she wanted me andBleak.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We left her shaking in the sheets, that's what he
was talking about then.
That was Distant Lover one,yeah, I think that's what it was
.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Oh man Like shit.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Boosie been, he been.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
If you go back and you listen to his music.
He been saying all this.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Distant Lover.
I fuck with Boosie.
Yeah, I fuck with Boosie, Ifuck with Boosie.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Shout out to Boo.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
If you see them, I wish I really like I literally
want to work with Boosie.
I seen him.
You tagged him On Instagram.
I seen him at least say it.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
There's a guy.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
He tagged him bro cause that beat Literally fits
him bro.
Oh yeah, especially what hegoing through now no doubt that
beat man, it was Boosie, he hearthat beat right now.
Especially what he got going onwith his baby mama and all this
other stuff, legal problems,all that man.
Let me ask y'all this.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
So you know for his you know part of his rent going
off Was when he took the carback from his daughter.
How y'all feel about I knowwhen you got it.
You know you spend it, how youwant to spend it.
How y'all feel about him buyinghis daughter For her 16th
birthday A 2023 AMG Benz.

(11:48):
She's 16 now.
I know there's something.
There's something he do withall his kids.
But If you had it, liked it Tospend like that, would you buy
your 16 year old daughter A 2000brand new, fresh out the line
AMG Benz At 16?
Would you do it?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Sitting here today, I would like to say no, I would
not.
However, I've never had thatmuch money, so it's hard.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's hard to say if you.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Me hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
It's 16.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But nah, she getting awesome, you getting the Honda
or something, something.
I wouldn't go that far Causelike I, I'm not even I spoiled,
like the way I spoiled mydaughter now, because I'd be
like damn, I ain't had it.
So like that's what gets meevery time she be wanting this
and I'm like, damn, well, I dogot the money.

(12:48):
Alright, come on, let go.
I do that.
I literally do that, but Iwouldn't.
I wouldn't.
When old boy got that, though,but him taking it back, I agree,
I don't care.
You disrespected the hell outof me.
I'm your daddy.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Call me a bitch ass.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
N word man, I'm your daddy.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I done took care of you forever, your whole
existence.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Regardless of what me and your momma got on, I have
still taken care of you and I'mstill your dad and you gonna do
that and you get online to theword.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
You could have called me on the phone and told me you
felt like that.
You didn't have to.
You know what I'm saying.
Call me a bitch, ass you callme a bitch ass man, I'll tell
you something I don't wanna dropthe.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think I already dropped it anywhere there.
It was by mistake people.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Do you not want people to hear you say that in
work, though?
I respect your podcast.
It welcomes them.
Word by black people.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'm weak, okay, woo, hey, okay, since we on that
topic, Okay so what if you like,had somebody that came in that
actually felt that way aboutblack people and they dropped it
on here?
Like I know, you were cut offfor one cause you I didn't see

(14:04):
you cut up.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
The racist stuff before in a podcast setting.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's different because the way I view it is,
it's an opportunity for someoneto civilly and respectfully
express themselves and how theyfeel, okay.
So if for one, if someone cameon and Used the n word with the
hard R and they were white, Iwould already expect that that

(14:30):
may be a possibility, because itwould likely be a conversation
About something serious, such asrace relations or something
like that.
So now, if somebody just set itout of the blue, I'm not gonna
get upset with anybody aboutwhat comes out of their mouth On
the podcast, because I knowthat that's my goal is to have

(14:51):
open and honest conversation.
Okay, okay, I respect that but.
And so everybody's entitled totheir free speech.
Everybody's entitled to whatthey wanna say.
I know you, I know, and that'swhat I say here.
Now I might reach across thattable.
Slap shit out of them.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I know that I'm telling you, brad, you never
know, until you actually make it, and then, when it happens,
you're like okay, yeah, I'mtrying to tell you.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I tell that story every time we civilly I really
know you dumb up.
Hey.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know what's crazy , though, cole Is, I've been in
a fight Because of race beforeand my perspective as a teenager
.
I was pretty confused aboutrace Because I thought about it
a lot.
My dynamics Me personallycompared to White people, say,

(15:42):
in private schools or even inother public schools, our
dynamics were different.
We were white, people were aminority.
So and then having thatexperience and not a lot of
other white kids Couldunderstand that dynamic.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
But at the same time Everybody wanna call me while
I'm doing it down, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
So, having said that, coupled that with my interest
in the civil rights era and whatwent on here in Nishaba County,
with the racial dynamic that wegrew up with, and then also
being Hanging out with peopleregularly, other white people,
who are openly racist and willuse the N word with the hard R

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it was a lot to take in.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It made you feel uncomfortable, though, when you
hang with white people who areopenly racist like that, knowing
that in your heart, you like me, and come on now.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Well, there's yeah in my heart.
That's how I feel.
Yeah, Come on now what?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
the fuck are you doing, can you?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
not see that.
That's a derogatory term and,like my whole thing is With the
N word, with the hard R, withwhite people.
You can say it, but you bettersay it all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't want to just say it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Don't say it just when you're around white people.
Let some brothers hear you sayit.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Keep that same energy .
And when you keep that sameenergy, just be prepared for the
consequences that Cause it willbe consequences.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
But most people who use that word cold.
That's the exact way theyhandle it.
They don't say it when thebrothers are around, they only
say it amongst white people, andI hate it, you know I don't.
But there are people that I'mso close to, who I've known my
entire life, who have used thatword and will continue to use
that word, that I just I can'thelp not being around.

(17:32):
Cause it's just them, that'sjust them, and so I have to just
instead of, you know, making afucking scene every time I'm
around them I just have to agreeto disagree with them on that,
and you know understand.
Understand that that's a flawthat they have.
That I'm not going to changeand it's not worth losing the

(17:54):
friendship or the family memberover.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
You can't change folks, bro.
I will say that you can'tchange folks.
Let's start with what they said.
Like if I tell you what you'redoing is bothering me and you
continue to do that withouttrying to stop, then I feel like
you just don't give a damnabout me, so we don't need to
have a friendship.
I get you, though.
I understand.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
And even though in Lee's case it's a little
different, because they're notdoing it directly towards him,
right, you know what I'm saying?
It don't have nothing to dowith him, even though they know
that he's not liked it.
But at the same time there'ssomebody who you've probably
been knowing your whole life.
So do I quit hanging aroundthis person Because they use,

(18:37):
even though I'm not liked it,they not disrespecting me
blatantly, directly, I feelwhere you coming from, though
Like I'm not going to end thisrelationship but at the same
time, just know I don't.
That's how you feel.
I don't fuck with it now.
So if you get out somewhere elseand we around and you use it
and they punch you in your mouth, don't look at me, don't look

(19:00):
at me.
Because you know how I feelabout it.
You know, so I respect itthough.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I respect it and it's taken, you know, ten years Ten
years.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Well, I got a lot of patience.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
I like to think I do, but I'm not so sure sometimes.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I be like this all the time.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Like people tell me all the time, I got a good
patience.
I believe I make beats andstuff, though, and that takes a
lot of time.
I think that will calm me down.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, it's good to have those outlets that Like, if
I'm upset, like I'm on thecomputer, if I'm upset, I'm
going to exercise Before.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I cut somebody out.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I want to try that.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's a good, that's a.
That is one outlet I have foundthat has helped me, like
walking, just getting out in theopen, like I go to the
Northside and just walk, run,like and it's really done to
help.
I don't do it now as much as Idid, but because I you know we
be a little more busy now butlike just going out there and

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just getting out in that freshair, just walking and running,
like it don't I mean it dosomething for your physical too,
but people don't understand howmuch it does for your mental,
your mental state.
Like it calm you down, but likeit relax you, it help you focus
better.
Like Like people got to.
Like Get out the house andstart moving, get active.

(20:24):
That should have changed yourwhole mental state.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
There are a lot of times mid-afternoon I'll get
sluggish, get in a you knowasshole mode and I can recognize
now, like man, you need to goget this energy out, you need to
go exert that energy and when Iget done, all that irritation

(20:49):
and aggravation Not all of it,but it's significantly reduced.
To where I can look in themirror and be like you back
level headed, you back toequilibrium now.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Now we gonna say I get aggravated.
Pretty quick, you know, I getaggravated.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Short fuse cold.
I do too, I do too.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I get aggravated fast here, bro, but I think that
happened when I became a dad.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I used to be like real, Just like chill I'm still
a nut Shalun, but it's like whenI became a father, Like I just
sometimes I just I just click.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think that is attributed to, yes, y'all being
fathers, but also us having morelife experience.
So there are some situationswhen we can see how the shit's
gonna play out, because we'veexperienced that situation
before.
So, as opposed to just watchingit play out in front of us In a
negative way, like we did thefirst time around, now we're
like, hey, hold on now.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I see how this shit gonna go, bro.
Let me go ahead and make a dealwith these roads.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Let me go ahead and cut it off.
Dave's friends said we knowD-roads.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Dave's.
We built D-roads.
Is Dave Chappelle the best ofall time as far?

Speaker 3 (22:01):
as as far as wood.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Comedian Stand up.
Comedian Stand up.
No, who is?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
It can't be, dave in my eyes, just stand up, stand up
yourself, I think, doing standup.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think Kat got him doing stand up.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Oh, that's a good point.
Hot take with a good point.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I think he got him doing stand up, but as far as
like actually just hitting onthat nerve of uncomfortable,
like just talking about thealphabet, community or politics,
racism, but isn't that part ofstand up conflict?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Okay, I'm not gonna say he's not the greatest, he's
not the greatest in my life.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
You can do comedy without doing that.
I'm not against it.
But what I'm saying is Dave,like the tiptoe on that thin
line, kat just say fuck it.
You know well, dave say fuck it, but you know what I'm saying.
He more so like Y'all know himfrom talking about this, y'all
know him from talking about this.
How many times you've seen Kattalk about something like this?

(23:00):
Did today talk about it?
Kat gonna have a whole story.
That's a good point, you know.
But Dave, I mean, he's funny tome.
Who?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
is the most overhyped Comedian Stand up.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I hadn't really thought about that.
Oh, I got one.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I got one I got one, we might have the same one.
I swear to God, you been sayingthat.
Dl Hugley bro, he is not funnyto me.
Dl Hugley gets on my mind Allthe luck I heard.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
I do not like DL.
He been talking crazy Tuesday.
He does talk crazy.
Well, it's not that I don'tlike him.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'm not a fan of his standard.
He's just not funny to me.
And he wanted the originalKings of Cumbia.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Man, they just drug him a lot.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
I don't say how he was just like a third or fourth
wheeler.
We just need one more person.
Come on bro.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
DL Hugley is one of those black men that I think has
signed on With the eliteliberal mindset and gone on with
it Lock, Stock and Barrel.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I believe he was just at the right place At the right
time and they just said come on.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
If you listen to DL Hugley, you still wear Jebos.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Airpods.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
What's the one with the Rhino?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Eco.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
EKKO.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, all that mess, Now one of my top two comedians
Of all time.
The creator that he deservedsaid you to entertain.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
That motherfucker's hilarious Bernie Mac Yo to the
good bro no.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Bernie to go.
Oh yeah, Bernie to go.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
But now I'm a fan of Steve Harvey's stand up.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
He underrated it to me.
I like Steve Harvey as a standup comic more than a game show
host or radio host or whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Of course he limited, then he versatile though man,
it's like he funny, no matterwhere he go.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
He's like one of the perfect hosts you could have for
anything, for anything.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, what's the new show?
He's got, he's a judge thejudge.
What's going on there?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't
know Judge.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Harvey, judge Harvey.
Yeah, yeah, judge Harvey, Igotta check it out.
I didn't see enough of it.
The episode I seen.
It was I, but you know howsometimes you gotta like keep
watching it For sure.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Kevin Hart's in top three in my opinion Stand up.
I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I'm cap.
At first I was one of the onethat like, ah man, he over
height, but like I watchsomething like, damn well, no,
you know, he grew on me big time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I put him in my top three.
He's a hustler.
I put him top five.
He is a fucking hustler.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, he a hustler, though, for real, he got that
bag, but see, I've never been afan of.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I've never been a huge fan of Cat Williams, not
like him more than now.
I never put him where I put DLHugh Glead, but I just I don't
know you don't watch his standup.
What about Richard?
Pryor, I do.
Did you watch?
Why me?
That's like way before.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But Richard Pryor like not saying that he's not
funny, but we didn't experienceyou know, at adult age or
becoming an adult.
No, like I'm not taking nothingfrom him, like I'm pretty sure
if I go back and watch him olderstuff him I'm gonna be cracking
up I have seen some stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
But, then, he died when we was like we weren't even
born yet.
Nah, we were born.
I thought he died like the 90.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
See when you born in 90?
.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, if he died in 92, I won.
I mean if he died in 91.
Let me see, hold on.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
We're also just talking black comics.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
I don't know, it's been a white comic.
Let me see what like.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Best of all time.
Hey, I'm gonna tell you who Icannot think of.
I would have to look for him onTikTok.
I wish I knew his name, bro, soI can give him a shout out.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I don't know if he followed me on TikTok.
I can't thank his name.
Richard Pryor died in 2005.
Oh, we was, we was.
I was 13.
We went in high school.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
We went in high school, we went over to middle
school, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I was listening to Pretty Ricky Grind on me.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Relax your mind, take time with me.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Hey, you know something, when you sit back and
listen to the spectacular rapnow you be like that shit is
cringy.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
Give me the lights.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Let me start kissing on you, girl Bold, messing in
your body, getting freaky girl,kiss you on your neck down to
your belly button.
And maybe your close up whileyou get this love, hey, but he
the hustler, though.
He the hustler at the group.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Man, but let me tell you something he was the hustler
Pleasure P.
Oh, my God he be snapping likea jazz thing.
Like man.
He was phenomenal, bro, all ofthem, but all of them was
phenomenal together.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
They got their own type.
Everybody wasn't the same.
Like Speck was the sex idol,pleasure was that silky, smooth
voice, because he really the onthe single Baby blue, baby blue,
whoa.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Then he go in.
He was just different.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And slick him with the toe.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yep, he was the toe.
That was what I was about tosay.
Slick him with the toe.
It was like the perfectcombination.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Spotted 30 in the morning.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
The internet also opened up the lines for
different types of people,opened up the opportunity for
different types of people toenter the game.
So, like somebody, commercially, a music executive, I don't
know a pretty Ricky story, butat some point along the way they
gave them the resources and thebacking to make their best shit

(28:45):
.
So we were limited in what wewere exposed to to a certain
extent, because at that pointnot everybody had the capability
to do what we're doing rightnow and make their own shit and
then put it directly to the, tothe consumer, through their
phone.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
How they came up with .
I mean, of course, the internetstill played a part, but it
wasn't like how how Soldier Boyused the internet.
You know what I'm saying Right.
Like pretty Ricky and them,they still had to.
They just had demos out of thestore.
They still had to physicallymarket themselves.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
And the internet has.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
It had changed.
Now, though.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh yeah, the internet has up the game.
It has exposed more people tobetter talent man.
The internet now it's makingeverybody better.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
The internet now is the A&R yeah, literally.
That's why.
That's why a lot of musicindustries do not like TikTok.
Tiktok is making people and,like me personally, I like the
shit.
I don't give a damn.
I don't like how people be likeman TikTok, just make anything
high.
No, I mean shit.
If it's funny, catchy, whateverthe case may be, and people

(29:54):
like it, what's the problem?
Yeah, they get into the bagExactly Just because you, just
because you know how to be superlyrical.
That don't mean nothing intoday's time, a lot of times
Nothing.
I love the fact that youlyrical.
I listen to lyrical rappers,but if you, finna, go to the
club, you ain't trying to hearnothing lyrical in no damn club

(30:16):
you trying to hear it.
Fuck the club up.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Fuck the club up.
You trying to turn your ACL inthere, but I'm not trying to go
in the clubs there.
I'm not doing that you tryingto hear it.
So that's where marketing comesinto play.
Like, if you are a lyricalrapper, instead of trying to get
your shit played on in the club, where people just drunk and

(30:38):
thugging, why not go tosomewhere like a coffee shop?
Why not go to some of yourpoetry slams?
Why not make some TikToks onthat type of vibe?
You could have your shitplaying with some fucking hot
tea beside you and people loveit.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
That's market.
Yeah, that's marketing.
Know where your shit need to beplayed.
If you rapping like that, youdon't need to be in the club
with it.
You need to be, like he said,where people who like that type
of shit gonna be.
It makes sense.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
It makes sense.
Use your hashtags to markettowards those people.
You know.
That's just how it is.
I'm not about to sit here and Iwouldn't play.
You weren't going churchplaying.
No, young boy.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
No, that's what I'm talking about Exactly.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
You want it Exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's simple.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
If you make gospel music, you're not going to go to
the club at two o'clock in themorning and cutting on your song
.
That's not marketing you, justbeing ignorant at this point,
yeah you just don't care youjust yeah, you're evil.
You need change.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Have y'all ever seen the guy from Mississippi who
some people claim Puff Daddycopied and created Big Will?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
I've heard about that , but I have heard of it.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I forget homeboys name, but he was a real guy from
Mississippi and his name was hehad either notorious in his
name or BIG.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I didn't look this up , yeah, and if you listen to me,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
But I'll tell you who an interesting story about how
I learned about this guy.
I was on a flight from Dallasto Houston in February and I ran
into this black gentleman atthe bar in Dallas waiting on my
flight to Houston.
And I get to talking to thisguy and we're exchanging names

(32:35):
and where we're from, wherewe're flying from, going to
general airport conversation,and he keeps talking about his
daughter and why he's having tofly here and fly there because
of his daughter being this greatartist.
Well, he was flexing.
He was wanting me to ask himwho the fuck his daughter was.

(32:56):
Well, I'm not that type of guy.
I'm going to strangle him alonga little bit until finally I
just had to ask him.
Long story short, he was goingto Jackson to his relatives
funeral.
This guy lives in Los Angeles.
He ends up being her, her's,dad.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Oh, wow, oh, the singer, her.
Yeah, it was her dad.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yes, and he and so Her dad, her dad, her dad, her's
daddy.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Her's dad.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
And so we get to talking about Mississippi, and
he's from southeastern Arkansasoriginally but got a lot of
family in Jackson and we weretalking about blues music,
Southern Soul music and I toldhim I really like my two
favorite types of music arecountry and hip hop.
So we started talking about hiphop and he tells me this story

(33:45):
that he's like because I saidsomething to the effect like
Mississippi hadn't gotten enoughrecognition in the rap game
throughout hip hop's history andhe was like, well, it could.
So I'm going to argue that oneof the best of all time was
created based off of a character, a real character in
Mississippi, who rapped.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I'm going to lift this up.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, I heard about that a couple of years back.

Speaker 1 (34:06):

Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's bars too.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
He eats that, but you know theyalways say like like main
industry really do be payingattention to like underground
stuff and shit, it's so thatthey can go create their own
version of it without having tobring that person out.
Why not just bring theoriginator out?
Can't make as much money, man,much of that didn't trick people

(34:31):
back in the day with that moneySigned 360s in.
There man look.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Because you got to try to develop these artists,
you got to try to put all of itInstead of if you just get this
person and just, hey look, thisis what we want you to do, this,
the image we're going to createaround you, do this, do that,
because that person alreadythere.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Problem is that they're market like let's use
the big example If they were totake the real big from
Mississippi and try to make himthe star, that big ultimately
became notorious BIG from NewYork.
His market is automaticallybigger from the jump as opposed
to Mississippi big.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
So they stand.
More resources out there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
And they stand more of a chance to make money
quicker if they just take thisguy to New York in that day and
time.
Now somebody from Mississippican make it on a big level
Because again the internet youcan go straight to the consumer.
You ain't got to rely on anexecutive to come pick you out
to slums.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
And I love it.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, it's liberated the game.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I love it for sure, but now and I tell everybody you
have to be willing to put theworking in though.
Oh, for sure, because thecontent and everything now is on
you.
Everything is on you.
So what you put into it is whatyou're going to ultimately get
out of it.
Everybody just looking for thisquick viral moment where the

(35:53):
quicker it comes, the quicker itfades away.
You got to work this shit Likeyou.
Be your labels now.
Or like executive now.
Be like man, what we?
Just the only problem we havingis we having a hard time
getting our artists to createcontent Because they just like
why I got to do this?
Or like man, that's the shitthat's getting people on.
That's how you get your likeyou said, it's direct to

(36:16):
consumer.
At this point you get chance togo straight to your fan base,
but you got to put the contentout.
It ain't got to be nothingextravagant.
Put your set your phone up onyour tripod, play your music in
the background and just do someshit.
Do some shit Like we pay for it.
Man, I'm on the shit.
I got fucking 10, 20s, four,fives and six ones.

(36:41):
People in the company talkingshit.
He ain't got number $200.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm slicking them long assnails.
He got.
They all in the company, but Igot a million views on this post
.
There you go.
I made it work.
And y'all going to stream themusic.
Pay for it.
Been out what March, March.

(37:02):
I checked the streams onyesterday collectively and I
already got over it's like amillion, it's like it's over a
million.
It worked With everything, Witheverything.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I was way more than that then.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Also, that's a really good song.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, appreciate it.
That's a really good song.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, it's way more than that.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
The quality of the song and y'all's efforts.
From a marketing standpoint, Ithink it's been a perfect storm.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
And it's so new to it's so many people who still
haven't heard it because it'sonly been out five, going on six
months.
Like perfect example KingGeorge, his song Can't Stay Too
Long, his biggest hit to this.
I don't know, keep On Rollingmight be his biggest hit now,
but his breakout song was Can'tStay Too Long.
That song came out in 2020.

(37:53):
I didn't hear it.
I didn't hear it until 2022.
That's two years, bro.
That's how long they but theykept bro.
It take a long time for songsto just surface, but you gotta
keep on working it.
Create content.
That's what you gotta do.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, and you gotta maintain that level of
commitment.
Or just like you said, just asquick as it came in a leap In a
leap.
So I mean, if you get a buzzonline, yeah it's better be
working.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
You gotta be working.
You better be working, becauseif you don't, you'll get lost in
the shuffle If you get a fire.
This side the hardest thing toget is the fire.
If you get a little bit of fire, you better be putting some
type of lighter fluid on thatbitch I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
you better be dumping it, the hardest thing doing it,
getting started it's gettingstarted.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
But once it starts, Once that motherfucker gets
started.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
You keep on throwing all type of bullshit on it.
I'm telling you, I find what Ican find and throw it on there.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Whatever you can put on there to keep it lit and make
it bigger.
That's what you gotta do.
That's what creating content is.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
King George is on top of the Southern Soul game right
now.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
But he's so dope.
He's so dope to me, like if Igo somewhere.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And he's just what 26 , 27, something like that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Somebody said that, but I heard somebody say that
he's like in his early 30s.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I went and Googled it Just looking at King George
before the age conversation evensurfaced.
He don't look 20, 20.
He looks to be like 42.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
He don't look dead old to me.
He do look like he, he looklike he probably all age.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
But I think also it's like I've seen videos of King
George and his concerts.
First of all, king George is anational treasure.
Like King George should be waymore popular than he is amongst
the American public.
But the videos that I watch isjust it looks like older people,
like early 40s, 50s at theSouthern Soul Fest and Mobile or

(39:58):
some shit, and so I've equatedthat to King George being old
and looking old.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
He don't look old to me.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
He don't look old to me, it's just his breast is torn
.
It's the type of music he hadbeen here before.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, he got an old soul.
He been here before.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Like, like.
As black people, that's what wesay Like we got an old soul.
The type of music he makes,what he talks about, His music
attracts an older crowd, but hegot a lot of young people,
because a lot of young peopleare starting to get into
Southern Soul.
Because that's what youespecially like, bro.
We in the South you not gonnanot hear no Southern Soul.

(40:41):
It's called Southern Soul, we inMississippi.
It don't get no more Southernthan where we at.
You damn right, it don't.
It do not get.
For anybody out there wholistening we are in Mississippi.
It don't get no more Southernthan Mississippi.
We are the, we are theSoutherness of the Southern.
We got a town called why Not?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'm telling you, we, down, we down here, we down here
Coming down in the slab.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Shout out to Eleanor, shout out to Louisa, shout out
to Alibaba.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It don't get no more Southern than Mississippi, but
have you been to the Delta?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
You feel me.
Have you been to the Delta, ohGod?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Ain't nothing down there.
Don't go to the Delta.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Bro, it's a.
I'm telling you, bro, like Ilove being from the South man.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I love being from the South too.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Like when I go somewhere else and like they be
like man, you gotta be you whereyou from, and I tell them I
don't miss it.
Man, you sound like that's whatthey say.
They be like man y'all.
Just they say we talk slow.
That what they say, but thatdon't mean like we talk slow,
like you know our intelligence.
They saying like we just layback when we talk Down here I'm

(41:49):
considered a fast talking person.
Yeah, you are Real deal, likefor real, but like if I go
somewhere else, like up north orsomething, they be like man,
you sound like you from theSouth.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I have to catch myself on this podcast because
if I just carry my everyday toneI can be, I can almost put
people to sleep sometimes.
So I have to be sure that Ikeep my pace up so that I don't
get long and drawn out, causethat's my natural draw.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, let me shoot it how we talk yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
But I do think people like listening to it,
especially people around here,because if you think about it
like we don't have a whole lotof media options to look, I mean
to see and hear people thatsound exactly like our neighbors
, yeah yeah.
That's why I think people likeHardy are so popular right now
is because Hardy's a trueSoutherner and we tend to

(42:43):
resonate with people all overthe country Like they're
interested in us, like you saidthey'd be like where are you
from, based?
On your accent.
And they don't see us onmainstream media or hear us on
mainstream media, so that whenone of us does make it, they're
like damn, I like thismotherfucker.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, and then, like they want to see what we do down
here, like I want to see itfrom y'all, like y'all from
there.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
But I think for so long the American public has
just been like those are just abunch of dumbasses down there,
we ain't fucking with them,we're just going to let them do
them and you hear some storiesdown here besides the racism,
you going to love it.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I promise you that you find some history down here
that don't have anything to dowith racism.
You find some stuff down here.
You got all your horror stories.
You got all your pimp stories.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
And we're not the you got all your music stories.
We're not as hostile from arace standpoint as the national
media would have the nationbelieve Currently.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, I don't care.
Some of it is I get what you'resaying.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
I get what you're saying, but, like I think we
said this last time we was onhere, down here racism is just
so bland, like it's notundercover.
You know it's here, so that'swhy it don't freaking bother us,
like people up north, ifsomebody calls somebody in word
up north, they oh my God, hesaid it and they make a whole

(44:09):
damn press release on it.
Down here we know somebody downthe street saying long you
ain't saying to me, cause youknow what time it is and that's
how it is.
I mean.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Other than that, what would be?
I mean, how often does thathappen?
How often has a white personcalled you to N-word to your
face, exactly?
So I mean on generally speaking, I think our relations are
better than the perception ofthem or across the country.

(44:39):
I'm not saying they're perfect,I'm not saying they're great,
but I do think they're betterthan what people around the
country think they are.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
You think it's getting a little better because
our generation, like we,actually fooled each other.
And the older generation, whojust hate each other goods, they
die now.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yes, I think that has a lot to do with it.
I think that has a lot to dowith it.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Cause I can guarantee you it's somebody who will race
his head and they probablyburning in hell.
Now I don't care, but theygreat, great, great
granddaughter got some mixedkids, mm-hmm.
Well, I'm just being honest,like I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I mean that's.
It's such a Nearsighted view tobe adamantly racist, white
person or black yeah, now whitepeople.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
now I'm not lying like you got some older black
people who just mm-hmm, yeah,ain't, ain't fucking with the
crackles, they don't want, theydon't want no grandkids mixed
with nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
No, they want that the black or the berry, the
sweeter, the juice.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Both way, like I'm being real, like yeah, that pure
black.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Darker the flesh than the deep of the roots.
What up to pop?
Now you're talking, but some ofthe best music has came out of
the state of Mississippi.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Oh, we're the birthplace of America the
birthplace.
Y'all can thank us, not mepersonally, but yeah, yeah thank
you Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I'm glad to be miss it.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
We just got a good.
We gotta get our shit to grow,man.
We gotta get more people manwith DD.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Old folks die.
I'm sorry they sound harsh butlike I think I'm not wishing
death on nobody, y'all just justjoke.
But what I'm saying is likeY'all are older, the older
politics are not in tune with.
I held our generation.
If y'all in in tune with us andwe I'm 30, you know we are, we

(46:40):
are adults, we take care ofourselves.
I was got kids, all of that ify'all not in tune with us, the
hell make you think you're intune with all the young boy
listeners.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Oh, my god, yeah, they're.
They're out of touch and theyway a lot of touch now.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
You had somebody more .
So of our eight, what's theyoungest you can be to be
president?
At it 35, 35.
Put somebody 35 president rightnow and see what happens.
No doubt real deal.
I'm being honest, I bet.
I bet they can relate to me,gonna relate more to us and a
younger generation.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I mean that that's a good point.
Have y'all seen those videos ofMitch?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
McConnell, dude, like he's terrible, he's terrible.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And Joe Biden?
They won't even let him outside.
They won't even let Joe Bidencome outside.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's time to damn camera.
Get on me.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
This old geriatric ass.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
He's freezing and man look, y'all stop putting that
man up there.
Y'all clearly see ARP a devil.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It is Look you think black folks you're gonna vote
for.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I don't know who, I don't mean.
The thing is, y'all get blackpeople vote.
They did last time.
They voted for last time.
You gotta get black people tovote.
That's a thing.
Um, I'm not.
I'm not having politics, though, but I have seen that and I'm
not blind to clearly see thisman.
It's not stable to be in front.
No damn camera on God talkingabout stuff.
If that the case, get to that.
That's that.

(48:03):
Types are mountain.
Yes, I'm a read.
If you can't stand in front ofthis camera and have a clean cut
conversation, stop beingstubborn, get your ass out the
way and let somebody else comedo that job, and then that's the
problem.
That is clearly the problem.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
But the another problem is the reason that they
won't get somebody else and theywant to keep him in that
position Is because he ain'treally running this shit.
Somebody else is running theshit.
He's just a figurehead, andwhoever whoever's running shit
don't want to lose control, sothey gonna Try them back out
there.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I just think politics is just who is the biggest
stubborn asshole?
Real deal, not.
I'm not like look, I don't knowpolitics.
I never been a politician.
I ain't really in the so that'swhy I don't really just touch on
politics.
But what I will always andforever say is y'all are out of
tune with the younger generation.

(48:59):
If you're not into the youngergeneration, create a job for
somebody who is in tune with theyounger generation.
Do something that.
Do something that you canclearly see what the damn
problem is with our age group,instead of two beers and trying
to be stubborn and keep freezingon the damn camera.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
If you saw this shit, you would laugh your ass.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Say what we need.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Cole, in this, in this moment, right here, what we
need is somebody running thecomputer with a screen and they
could look it up, pull it up onthe screen and then to smooth
could laugh his ass off watchingme telling you, bro, freezing
his shit, because this ain't thefirst time he did this, no,
this is like the second time intwo months.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Yeah and like and if he got a problem, hell problem,
why y'all keep putting y'allmaking a mockery?
That's what that is.
Yeah, they're trying to.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
They're trying to put up a front as if nothing is
wrong, when it's clearly aproblem that we have.
Before I even show the video,look at it, man.
Oh yeah, you clearly know somewe have entirely too many old
people running this country.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
We do.
I don't see them, I just Iain't know what the name.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Man, look, bro, forget that, I don't care, I
talk about everybody.
Hey man, look like a damn, helooks like a turkey a church,
sock church so.
Like mr Soco.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Connobie looking like a church so he looked like a
church.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
So yeah, he don't mean he need to cut that out man
, put somebody else right there.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
I feel like and this goes withany job, not just politics if
you know you are old or no, youeither finish retire or you can
retire earn.
Whatever the case may be, getthe hell out the way and let
somebody else do that.

(51:00):
Just like like boards, likepeople who be like on board
education or whatever.
It'd be a lot of older peopleon there.
I want about a young, about myage.
Come say something.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
We need term limits on whether it be a board,
whether it be everythingSenators, house representatives,
congress, all that shit.
You need to be able to get inthat bitch and do it for about
four or eight years and you needto get the hell on out the way,
get out the way, just like.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Have a work shadow.
You can go on, start coachingthis person up to do it.
You know, instead of jazz I'mnot saying just get the hell out
the way and just throw me inthere, because you throw me in
there I might not know what I'mdoing the first year, but I
ain't gonna say the first.
I said the first month, butgive me about about two months.
I know I make some shake, buthave a work shadow, get the hell

(51:46):
out the way.
That's all I asked his move.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
They want, though, because they profit so much from
being in those positions.
I Mean it's so obvious.
It's so obvious that if you getelected to Congress, you are,
and and God forbid if you getseniority in Congress like Mitch
McConnell.
I want to create so much youcreate.

(52:09):
Oh, it's not.
It's not about how much theyget paid by the government
itself.
It's how much they can get paidbased off of the relationships
that they build with people inWashington, whether it be
defense contractors, whether itbe other politicians.
They figure out ways throughRelationships over the course of
50 fucking years to make asmuch money as they possibly can

(52:32):
like.
Think about Hillary Clinton howmuch she's made since running
for president.
Just because she goes and shespeaks, she charges an ass ton
of money.
But it's because she's got allthese relationships and she's
built like they're just they'regreasing each other's pockets
and it's because they're thereto mother.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Lot of old money.
Lot of old money, not all money.
I just say you're too long.
Give me some of that damn moneyI'm running to.
I run into.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I want to go to the White House one day they said
there was a rumor that JoeBiden's son left his cocaine Hmm
at the White House.
Oh, it's a son.
Have you all seen those thosepictures and videos of Joe Biden
son smoking crack?

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Real tall.
He do cocaine crack.
That's what they say.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
And apparently I guess, when your father, the
president, is a lot of pressureagain I Ain't doing no drug so
there's also the the allegationsthat Ukraine and Joe Biden have
had a relationship and they'rein bed with one another.

(53:50):
Have fun, you claim and pay inJoe Biden.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I get what and I ain't feeling I don't even
change the study.
But get what, what?
I still got a week up and go towork in the morning tomorrow,
on Sunday.
No, I'm just saying in general,whatever the hell they got
going on, yeah, damn, because Istill got bills paid for.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, that is very true.
It's a.
It's hard to sometimes Wrap ourheads around as regular people.
What the fuck they got going on?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, like don't get it twisted like I understand,
like I said, a lot of olderpeople like they're watching
news and they be in tune withwhat's going on and politics, my
grandma's something out of time.
Y'all need to be watching thisso you can know what's going on.
But at the same damn time I gota light bill that need to be
paid.
Yeah, I can't sit here andwatch Mitch freeze on TV every

(54:38):
two damn hours.
I gotta get up and go to work.
So you know it's just.
Hey, it is what it is at thispoint I can't do nothing about
it.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Have y'all seen the video of Oliver Anthony Richmond
, north of Richmond?
He's a ginger white dude.
He got famous off of video asong a video of his song he's
singing, called rich men northof Richmond, talking about
politicians in Washington, andhe put it out and he has

(55:09):
skyrocketed to number one oncharts, billboard charts and
Basically become the mostpopular person in America.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
It's on tick-tock.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's everywhere.
Okay, so I Talk is a new a andR man.
It's everywhere.
I'm just me and I man.
You can.
You can blow up doing anything.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
You blow doing anything.
The quality's got to be there.
The quality's got to be there.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The quality definitely gotta be there, I
mean you know, excuse the wire.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Can't be there, though, and today's where?
No, there's no you can go get arandom.
You can use this Mm-hmm, thisis called an iPhone.
It got a camera.
You can use this stuff andPeople will rear, deal like, go
crazy over your content, and youcan use this stuff until you
get some money to get some newstuff.

(56:03):
That's all it is.
Look at, look at that.
Look at our earlier music.
All that stuff.
You what you got, you what yougot.
I had an interface just likethat and what?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
at what point do you have to decide to Continue
investing?
And In the quest for what, what, what is, what is to smooth
quest?
What are you, what are yougoing for, what are you striving
for, ultimately, through yourartistic efforts?
I.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Just want to be the best at what I do.
I want to go down.
I want it.
When it's all said and done, IWant to go down is one of the
greats to ever do it.
Whatever they look like, youknow saying I ain't got no, hey,
I want to know.
Yeah, I do want plex, I want awars, I want this.

(56:57):
But I want to go down as one ofthe one of the greatest to ever
do this music, shit, whateverthat looks like.
That's what I'm striving for.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Are you seeing steps in that direction?
It's, you see it.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
So you're seeing returns on your quote-unquote
Investment man, ten times oldalready, you've been touring huh
.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
How was st Louis?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
St Louis was dope.
St Louis was dope, it was, itwas real dope that was rocking
with us in st Louis.
Good vibe, it's good.
People shout out to thepromoter big ant, that put that
together.
Shout out big and yeah, big ant, cool dude.
I think that was his first timeactually doing an event.
So you know, shout out to himfor bringing me to the city,

(57:46):
first one to bring me to stLouis.
So that's be for promoter to.
You know, saying that they canbe the one that say hey To
smooth, I bought him to st Louis.
That's, that's like, that's abig thing for promoter.
You know I'm saying so yearsdown the line or here, maybe
later on this year.
You know we continue to do whatwe do and we skyrocket here.
Have debt on his resume.

(58:07):
What shit I'm the.
You know I'm the first one tobottom bottom to st Louis, right
?
You know?
Damn, for real.
Then they make that braintraffic his way.
People want to rock with himmore.
But Shout out to him and shoutout the st Louis Texas.
When they'll be.
Rest in peace when they.
I wasn't never Hooked to hismusic like the, but he was like

(58:30):
To me, he was like the bearwhite, so no side of the loop.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, it is fucking cold.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, he was like he liked the bear white of southern
.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yes, sir.
Voice deep, but like he can rapto.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I see I ain't never, I would never really just hip to
you ever listen much, but hehad a very distinct voice like
you're, like your mama, probablyknow who when they'll be war.
You know I'm saying like Restin peace.
When they think he died fromwhat, like colon counsel,
something, like it was something.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
I don't know.
I just heard that he passedhere recently.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
What I like.
A month ago, oh yeah, hey, hewas like fit the night, do y'all
look?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
at the website.
Daddy, be nice.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
What's on the?
I'm not gonna put that in mydamn God type in type in daddy
be nice.
What is, what is about?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
southern soul type it in.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
I swear to God, it's not.
It's not it's not porn I.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Don't have Like.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I don't have my phone in here with me.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
It's sound like some.
I swear to God.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
We'll look at after there, daddy, be nice.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
What is it about?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
like it's just music.
It's an entire websitededicated to southern soul music
charts, history, artistbiographies weekly charts, daddy
, be nice.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Dot-com, I think, is the name one last time you
looked at it probably two weeksago.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
I Ain't seen you on there yet, but I've been trying
to get daddy be nice to get hisshit together and get you on
that bitch.
Oh it, I've had, I've had to benice to be on the podcast, and
he did not, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
like something is Like it's starting up or is
already like no, he's been doingthis shit since early 2000s.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Oh, daddy be nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Yeah, and you ain't.
You ain't seen pay for it onthere.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
I haven't, but if Cole would look it up on his
phone right now, we could see.
You tell me what it is, what itis.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
You had to tell me, but I'm gonna but I'm gonna tell
you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I'm gonna tell you something this real when you
asked this.
Revert back to the questionhave, have you, have I, been
seeing a return on my investment?
I will say this One of my goals, I've already completed one of
my goals that I had for myselfand and one of my goals was, I

(01:00:52):
told my old ladies I said Idon't know what song it is, but
I said I don't care what numberit get to, but I said as long as
I get one of my songs to get onthe iTunes chart or the Apple
Music chart, it could be I thinkApple Music go to like 200, one

(01:01:17):
out of 200, or iTunes go tolike 117.
I said if I get on that bitchand it's the number 200 song, I
don't care, I achieve that goal.
Is that all genres?
This is well, it's whateversong you're, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Nah, this one, the all genre chart, it was the
actual blues chart.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It's the actual blues chart for iTunes, because you
know they break them down into.
You know categories or whatever.
So whatever song you're, whatyou call it categorized in, they
have a chart for it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
It's not called DaddyBeDicecom, it's called
Sudden Soul R&Bcom.
But he is the.
I get what you're doing, though.
I get what you're saying thatwent through me out.
But now like iTunes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Oh yeah, I done seen that iTunes, they have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
they do have the chart, though, with everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Yeah, but now shout out to him.
Shout out to him, but iTunesand and that that's the main
chart, you know what I'm saying?
That's curated by one person.
Yes, that's subjective.
That's subjective iTunes youcan't.

(01:02:27):
You can't submit your song toiTunes.
Hey, put this on the chart.
Not saying that that's what hedo, but iTunes.
You don't know how to talk tonobody from iTunes to get your
shit on the chart.
Either you got it or you don't.
Based off of plays.
Based off of play.
Based off of who fucking withyour shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Have you surpassed, from a number standpoint, where
you ever imagined you would goat this point?
Oh, just from YouTube to iTunes, to all the different platforms
.
I mean you're number is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I always knew I would do it, but the the time frame
in which it happened shocked me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Did you think pay for it was going to do it Like when
you recorded?
When y'all recorded that andy'all got done before y'all got
ready to hit send to put it outfor the world where y'all like
this bitch is about to pop.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
I think we feel like that about every song that we do
, but when it happens I tellanybody.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I felt like I felt like we had one Couple one this
is just from a personalstandpoint that my first blue
beat Me and Feezel did thattogether.
Yeah, who's?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Feezel, feezel.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I think one of the things that I don't on the
tracks to shout out the fees.
Yeah, you heard Spank, al, Ithink you should go with me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Yeah, he on the intro .
Yeah, he on the intro Smoothhotel.
Shout out the freaking feet.
We're going to give him aperiod one day, though, but but
I did one thing that did shockme too, though.
Out of out of 117 people on theiTunes chart, pay for it, pay
for it has made it to numberthree on that chart.

(01:04:09):
So what?
And the only two people thatwas ahead of this was ahead of
me was King George was numberone we keep on rolling and Ella
Jane free at last and pay for itwas number three.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
So what category was?
Is that chart?
That's blue, that's blue, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
And that's.
That's the iTunes charts.
I know curated charts from noperson, from not one person who
got that.
No, this is the iTunes chart.
If you got an iPhone, you cango.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I do wish that iTunes and or Apple music and Spotify
would designate Southern soul asa genre within all of their
different categories.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
I don't think they're going to do that.
They're going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
They're going to do that.
It's so distinct, it's realdistinctive.
It's just like how they do R&B.
Now, like you go to the R&Bcharges, you just gonna sound
like some pop on there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yeah, like they're gonna do that, they're gonna do
that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
It's too niche yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Too niche, like yeah, way too niche.
But I think if more people wereexposed to it then they would
like it because, like ourSouthern stars don't blow up
like they did in during Motownor during the really the 50s,
60s, like now.
It's very regional.
You very rarely see a verySouthern person go mainstream

(01:05:31):
commercial success Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
King George.
Oh, so I know, lord have mercy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I think you should.
But like I'll say this aboutSouthern soul music, like I
think it would be wise of you tosmooth to dabble in Nashville
circles, because a lot of whatMorgan Wallins doing has a lot
of Southern soul tendencies.
If you go listen to his 36track album that he put out here

(01:05:57):
recently and it's fuckingbreaking records every day.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
You like, you like.
I'm set on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I'm indifferent.
I get depends on what youdefine as an album, but I'll
answer that after I get donetalking to the double D's.
If you, if you go to Nashvilleand you pop in there and you
know, say you record a couple ofsongs with some up and coming
country singers, they gonna beable to get on a Southern soul

(01:06:25):
vibe.
They may not know what Southernsoul is, but when they hear it
they're gonna be like oh yeah, Iknow what the fuck's going on.
And the listeners white peoplethat listen to country music
they like that sound but theydon't necessarily know what.
Southern soul is and so if youmarry the two and it makes your
market that much bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
I think white people like pay for it Hell yeah, it's
different, bro, because it don'tsound like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
No lie.
Shout out to P2K.
P2k told me he said, bro, hesaid pay for it ain't even
really blues.
He said that shit really likeis damn near hip hop when you
think about it.
He was like, because you kindof you kind of rapping but you
singing at the same time.
He was like and I think that'swhat make people like, fuck with

(01:07:15):
it that much more because itdon't sound super bluesy.
You just took your style andyou made it into a bluesy type.
Then you got Chavon, they, himand Fizzer, they laying down the
damn the bass and the fuckinghorns and all that Pay for it
don't sound like nothing else.

(01:07:36):
It don't sound like what's outnow from a blues perspective.
That to me it don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
I thought what was awesome is all the skits that
came back.
I've seen the ones that you putup on Snapchat Tiktok, yeah,
yeah.
Have no fear, Mr Pipe is here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Bro, I knew.
I only know why I asked thatquestion about you.
Think white people like it.
I know they do, because thatTiktok with the man was in his
car with his kids.
Yeah, now, boy that I think Iwas in a bad mood until I saw
that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
And I'm talking about his key.
That brightened my day.
His key is in the backseat,saying it word for word, word
for word.
His key is now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
He was like man.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I played this song so much.
My kids know this shit Word forword.
He hit me up on Tiktok.
He said I'm going to send thisvideo to your IG.
Sent it to me.
I said that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
That's why I always say like music don't have a
color, it don't have a color,music do not have a color.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
This man told his men say if you ever in Arkansas,
please let me know.
Bro, we go to a bar.
Whatever he said, drinks on me.
This man don't know me from acan of paint White guy.
Just that's how music wouldbring it together.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
It's something about music, bro.
It literally would bring peopletogether that you do not know
when you since been on tour,you'd have had people show you
videos, especially the girl whowas in Texas showed the video
what she had a son, her son,singing it.
Shout out to Zoey and she cameto the show.
You know like what, she hadabout an hour hour to drive,

(01:09:15):
yeah, something like that,something like that and came and
like these people.
You know they meet them andthey tell their story and like
that's cool, that's really coolto me.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
They be like man my.
Every time I play this song, myson, my daughter, people send
me videos to my tool smooth page.
They kids when they playingpayfold.
These babies are singing itBecause they parents done played
it so much that the kid lovedthe song and it's a friendly
song.

(01:09:45):
It's no cussing in the song andit wasn't designed like this.
Just, I don't hardly cuss in mymusic anyway, I just don't,
because I'm all about expandingthe brand.
So I want to, you know, I wantto be in all type of markets.
I want kids to be able to hearmy music.
I want older people.
That's why I got a.
That's why I have a lot ofolder people that you know make

(01:10:06):
up a lot of my fan base, becauseI don't put out vulgar.
Yeah, I might talk about six,but here don't we all have six.
That shit ain't no secret, damnright.
You should be at five, at five.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
But it's how you, it's how you talk about doing it
.
You know what I'm saying Likesongs like slow rolling.
I ain't cussing slow rolling.
It's a love making song but alot of older people and younger
people fuck with it.
So I just make music that, thatthat hopefully touches
everybody, young and old, andit's been doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
So it's paid for to single off of an upcoming
project.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
It's going to stand alone.
It's going to stand alone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
It's there, it stands alone.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
So is there a follow up to smooth hotel?
I'm going to yeah yeah, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
I will say that on the kind of line we, we are
going to put out an extended ofthe Lux version to smooth hotel.
I can't just let smooth hoteljust stay like that.
Like we, we are doing extendedversion, probably about four or
five more tracks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
When's that?
Do you know when that's goingto drop?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
If I don't do it, at the end of this year it'll
probably be the first part ofthe nation.
But I got to do that, I got to.
I have too many people hearingme up about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I called Arthur Young's manager trying to get
him on the county line and he'sactually from his name's Damien.
He's from where, he tell me,somewhere.
I don't know if it's in a blackbelt, but it's not the maplest
somewhere in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
I was to or him or Arthur Young, his manager.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Trying to get that worked out.
If y'all talk to any KingGeorge's, arthur Young's, I know
, I think you in big mail Y'allgot a relationship, though I
will tell you that too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
I'm going to run that by big mail today.
Today, did you reach out to him?
You tried to reach out to himTo big mail.
Yeah, yeah, did y'all get thatworked out?
Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I think.
But I was given a number.
Who and the person who gave itto me said it was big mail's
number, but I think it ended upbeing a sister.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Yeah Well very seldom will you probably get their
number.
They may have like a booking,somebody like that.
You know what I'm saying, but Iget that worked out for you for
sure.
Big mail, that's the homieShout out to big mail, big mail.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Big mail's from the walk.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Me and big mail got a show coming up on this
September the 16th in Sugarlite,me and him performing in the
girl's show Sugarlite.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Where's big mail from Walnut Grove?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Nah, I think he from either Decatur or Newton.
I want to say mail from Decatur, I think, up the road, up the
road.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Up the road.
He a homeboy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, yeah, Shout out to big mail man.
Big mail is cool dude.
I ain't got time, yeah, I donebuilt.
We done well, we done builtsome good relationships.
Shout out to P2K, me and P2Ktalk on the phone a lot.
He the one that got the songwith King Joe you turn gotta
make a U turn.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I like that fucking song.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
I gotta turn around y'all P2K big mail, of course.
Oh yeah, I got a chance to chopit up with Sir Charles Jones,
so Sir Charles Jones want to dosome work with me, so we going
to be going out to Dallas to SirCharles Jones studio.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
OG Tribble OG right there Urban Mystic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
For show Urban Mystic .
Who else?
I'm missing somebody.
Damn, I'm missing somebody.
J1.
Fellow Mississippian.
So and I done talked to theseguys on the phone.
These guys done reached out tome like, hey man, what's your
number?
Let's chop it up.
Shoot on my number, we chop itup on the phone.

(01:13:56):
So yeah, we got some BC comingup.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
That's so important man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Networking.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I don't care if it's in music or podcasting or
whatever.
If you're a barber it's goingto be good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
It's not hard.
It could be a scary thing to me.
What's that Networking?
But it's something that yourwork does for you when you just
don't know it for real, like howthe shit just take off with pay
for it, like social media.
So I think social media makesit easier to I mean, ain't no
make it.
It does make it easier tonetwork.

(01:14:31):
It's nothing like that groundnetwork, though.
Nothing like it.
Like I can, like how he just cancall up one of these guys.
That's different.
I can't just call you.
What the hell do I just call inyour main page on Instagram or
something?
And try to get in contact withyou.
You know like that's weird, butyou know after they didn't
probably seen it.

(01:14:51):
And then boom, amen, what'syour number Get at me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I'll be doing that shit.
I'll call the motherfuckers yougot a page.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Hell yeah, I'll call them in a heartbeats.
You call somebody main page,hell yeah, do they answer?
Probably not Every night.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
You talking about the ?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
phone number that they.
No, no, no no.
I'm talking like the actualsocial media page.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Like you know, you can call people on Instagram and
Facebook, not a number they gotup there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
They want you to call them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
That's different.
Yeah, they want you to callthem.
You won't be talking to them,right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
You'll be talking to whoever they represent.
No, but you're actually doingthe right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
Call that number and they can put it up there for a
reason.
But I'm saying for the ones andI'm gonna say it on the podcast
Stop calling the damn TooSmooth page man, please bro.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Please stop calling me that page, bro, because I'm
not gonna answer.
I'm not gonna answer.
He get the phone call againlike I do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
We're not gonna answer that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Irked my nerve Go to the bio and it's gonna you
either gonna see a number or yougonna see an email.
I think it's gonna be like fans.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
It's gonna be like man, I'm gonna try and say I can
talk to them, but I'd ratheryou Like you're most likely to
get a response from a DM thantrying to call.
That is very weird.
He do respond.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
I do respond to DMs.
He respond to that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I just got my first DM fan mail too, that's for pay
for it.
Shit feel good, though I thinkI screen shot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I had somebody reach out at my DMs after the podcast
I did with gambling.
Yeah.
Caleb yeah, and she was tryingto get on, so I put her on.
Caleb yeah, nah, I'm weak man.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Hey, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you, let me telly'all something the more your
brand grows, the more shit itcomes with like this.
I'm telling you Because justimagine this Now I have 75,000
followers on my Toos move page.
You got to know the inbox belooking crazy sometimes, and I'm

(01:16:47):
talking about people would bein there saying some shit, but
that's what comes with this shit, though.
You got to think you got 75,000followers.
I may get 500 shares a day.
On a light day, think about howmany people are seeing this
shit from all over the country,all over the world.

(01:17:09):
So you're going to get someinboxes.
Some people may see you somepictures, some videos, but I
love it.
I take it all in, though.
Have y'all seen Tofer's Biblequiz?
I love Tofer man.
When I tell people who Tofer is, they don't believe it.
I don't know.

(01:17:30):
Sir, I just have one thing tosay to you you did your damn
thing on pay for it.
See, see, thank the God, see.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Thank the do say bottle.
See that me and Fee Zell wasdrinking on that day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Man of bars was up drinking at like eight o'clock.
I was still back there in thebed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Like we.
Literally I did something I'llnever do.
I brought my setup home likedown here, Because that's a lot
of shit to move, Hell yeah.
You done, seen it, and I gotmore since then.
So I told Nick.
I said, man, look this weekendright here, dedicated, we going
to get in the studio.
Got in there, I did.
I made a beat early thatmorning.

(01:18:08):
I made two before everybody gotthere, because that one on the
sick of time Did that then turnaround, and that's what we did.
Pay for it, man, fee Zell.
We did that.
Boom, did that beat.
I want to say did you, did youwrite?
You didn't record anything thatnight, though did you besides,

(01:18:30):
in about 10?
In about 10.
That was it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Yeah, I didn't record pay for it.
It was weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
It was weeks, yeah, yeah, but in about 10, we
actually went in and did somestuff on that too, and that was
and that's another rare momentbecause, like I rarely hit the
record button for Nick.
Now he do it himself and justsend it to him.
Look at two smooth.
So like I'm telling you like itwas a lot of rarity going on.
It was a lot of rarity going onthat day.

(01:18:57):
I never bring all my stuff downhere but I like forget it.
We're going to do it and then Ican't.
That's the last time I didn'thit the record, but before the
end I can't tell you when.
Right, at least for him.
Like that's just how we workhere.
Do his thing, shoot it to me,do my thing.
We there, we go.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
You been fucking around in Atlanta any.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
No, but I need to.
My boy Dula shout out to DulaDula been the he been.
That's oh shoot, I knew it wasone.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
We forgot the name oh guy Young guy, Young guy Shout
out to young guy man yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah, that's Dula.
That's who Dula produces for,so shoot you ever been younger?

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Really, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
So take he.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Son of a son.
Yeah, you are like, where's he?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
from Atlanta, he from no.
No, he from New, I don't wantto say he from.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
New he from New he wherever male from.
Male and guy know each other.
I think they came up liketogether.
Let me see.
So they, wherever male from.
I don't want to miss the whole,you know what I'm saying, but I
think it's like the New Decaturarea.
I think it ain't Hickory, is it?
It could be.
It could be.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
But like I'm telling you, I'm telling you brother,
I'm telling you brother, Me andyoung guy finna put some shit on
Me young guy and me, I got some, got some, got some shit.
I definitely, I definitely wantto go to Atlanta, though Dula he
goes out there and do somestuff and he tell me all the
time.
I just ask him to give me alittle heads up because you know
we've been going to places nowso but I want to go, I want to

(01:20:28):
go, I want to go work with, Ithink I think the thing that
really irks me a lot of timespeople try to box me in because
I do a lot of freaking, I do alot of R&B.
I love to do R&B, that's mymain thing.
But I do make a lot of trapstuff and make a lot of that.
That boot noise, not justsudden soul, but I'm saying

(01:20:50):
stuff for boosting them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
I like that boot noise.
Man, what I heard a couple, Iheard a couple on beat stores
yesterday's got that boot noise.
I bet your ass in here doingthe grid.
I got hey, I almost got my penand pad out.
I'm doing it.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
I'm telling you because man, like like I was, I
have been forced to be soversatile because Nick can rap
and he started out rapper.
But what's hitting now?
Sudden soul R&B.
So it's naturally I'm going tomake that type of stuff.

(01:21:23):
I don't put that stuff outthere because, for one, I don't
want somebody who either can'tsing or they want to rap about
sliding on somebody on one ofthe R&B tracks that arex, that
arex, my core, that is so theywill try it.
Man, that'd be hard man They'lltry to slide on the R&B track,
trying to be different.
Yeah, and I'm not against youbeing different, but I think it

(01:21:44):
just meant it just me.
You know some young blue typeshit, and I ain't just with him.
It's just like they won't evengo that route.
They won't go that route.
They won't even go to K camp.
Rap and K camp is freaking fire.
Yeah, he is Like he shout outat K camp.
I would love to work with Kcamp.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Really, I got some shit that man, I like seeing me
personally selfishly.
I like seeing smooth perform ashe performed on pay for it.
I like to hear him sing, but Ialso like to hear him rip that
motherfucker up.
Man, look, I can see smoothgoing and being the ultimate
Southern soul Drake type thatcan go to the top rapping or

(01:22:28):
singing at any time he versatilethough.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
For sure.
Now Nick is versatile, so I'dnever know what the hell Nick
are like of mine, that they justI don't know At that point I
just send the shit.
But you know he eventually hegone boom.
Yeah, like I fuck with thathard and he'll do it.
Now everybody else that I workwith, I don't try to box them in
, but it's more so that theydon't want to step out their

(01:22:51):
comfort zone a lot of time.
You know like this is what I do.
I'm gonna stay doing this.
So I'm not for to make a bunchof freaking R&B beats for you.
If this is what you're doing,you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
You gotta get out your comfort zone.
That's where you growth is it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Whenever you get out your comfort zone, that's when
you go on start to see stuff,set up, pray, pray, pray, pay
for it and turn around my labblue beat sent to the nigga and
he called me.
So that's what I'm saying Likeyou, step out that comfort zone.
I stepped out my comfort zoneand did that, we got paid for it
.
And now, whenever the hell hedo that one to this one you know

(01:23:27):
what I'm saying Like boom, likedamn, you really that show.
Yeah, I versatile, straight up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
So y'all are working on another Southern soul song
and we working on everything.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
We're gonna be on this.
Everything Like I.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
it's not a box bro, Literally y'all just doing what
y'all feel, whatever the hell.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Because you gotta think like I got like my will,
you got to pay for this doingwhat it's doing, but you still
got people who, who live in slowrolling.
Well, that's R.
It's R&B, yes, based off oflike a blues song, but it's R&B.
So that keeps us not confinedto that box.

(01:24:09):
You're not gonna see me outhere with no cowboy head and no
fucking boots.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
That shit ain't shot out of here by the who do that?

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
But that ain't happening that ain't me, I be
trying.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I don't even know not .
I be trying, bro.
I'm like bro man, just put someboots on, fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
No, I ain't got put no, I ain't got no problem with
the boots.
I don't have problem with theboots.
I'm not wearing a fuckingcowboy hat, but I ain't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I be like man.
I be wanting to wear a cowboyhat at Trail Rise Because you
know it fit the theme, you know,and he like wearing hats.
So I'm like shit, put the haton.
I ain't putting on no fuckingcowboy hat.
I don't blame you.
I ain't no cowboy, I don'tblame you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
You like the cowboys, that's football Got him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
I just like that cousin, cousin that he was the
Mississippi State.
That's it what they gonna dothis year.
So both that disappointed me sodamn bad.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
last year I bought the.
Hey, I'm not scared to saywe're four now.
I'm not scared to say so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
I'm just gonna take a game by game.
Hey, I ain't put no predictionson them, just be quiet until
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
I just want to see Dak put together.
I want to see him play 17 games, or 16 or higher.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I want to see him put together MVP type season so he
can shed a lot of folks up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
I think he can, if he can stay fucking healthy.
Yeah, because before he gothurt, minus the inceptions, but
you know like, I think city lambis a beast, I think that I
think that had what.
Tony Pollard is too, I think, Ithink that had what running
backs have.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
like they call it from the lightest thing he had
Pickitis, pick.
It is intercept,interceptionist.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
It just shows me a lack of interceptionist.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
It's like a focus.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Like yeah, but like it happened, like it's kind of
like freak, those like gettingyour head.
You can shoot like I had, Iain't gonna cap, I can shoot a
jump all day, but when it cameto free though I was, I was bad.
I don't know what it was about.
I'm fine, I'm not, I don't, orit could be this call.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
It could be he was diagnosing a two, three zone and
it was a three, two zone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Man, I think you just trying to be technical.
I think it was in his mind.
I think it was in his mind.
It's just like I'm telling you.
It's just like if you stub yourtoe, you're going to keep
thinking about how you don'twant to stub your toe again and
you're going to mess around andstub your toe again because you
keep thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
About the myself a self fulfilling prophecy.
Yo literally about the mistakeI don't cap man.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
I try, I try not to think about negative stuff
because I be feeling like you,that speaking stuff into
existence, shit is real, yeah.
So I ain't gonna lie.
I be kind of like man look, Iain't wishing none of that on me
, I'm knocking on wood, I'm whatshe look.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
I speak it into this.
If I want some good to happen,that's what I speak and that's
what come from it.
Every time You're going to havenegative, no matter what,
you're not going to get aroundthat shit because it's life.
You're going to have goodyou're going to have, back to
the day you leave it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
I will say that, though I feel like anytime a
bunch of negative stuffhappening, that really does mean
something's good bound tohappen, no matter how big or
small, because you didn't seemsomebody negativity happening to
you, even the smallest shit,going to bring your day up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Well, I feel like God maybe had to tissue before he
blish you know what I'm saying.
Might need, might need to seehow, how your faith is.
That too.
Before I give you, before I layall of this on you, let me see
if you can handle it.
Let me, let me prep you forthis.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
I'm like Lord, please come on.
We don't really do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
do you think that you can be successful if you don't
believe in God?
What's what?

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
showed.
What's your definition ofsuccess?
Everybody definitely says is itmoney?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Be one of the best in name the field Actor,
ballplayer, scientist.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
That's fine, then, like that if your, if your
version of being successful isjust being real and famous,
everybody knows you and,whatever the case may be, now,
hey, that's you.
That was some folks.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
It's your definition of success.
Some folks, success is beingcloser to God.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Do you think you can reach that level of success
without a belief in God?

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I don't think you reach a level of success without
a belief in anything.
You got to believe in something.
I don't mean, you guys do Evenif you don't believe in.
God.
You got to believe in God.
You got to believe in somethingyourself, other people,
something.
You got to have something tohelp you get somewhere.
You ain't going to do nothingon your own.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
They just get that out the way Now.
My belief is in God, butsomebody else believe may not be
in.
God, that's y'all, and that's,and that's whoever hey you know,
that's your belief, but that'swhere my belief is in.
I know what got me here and Iknow what's going to take me
there.
But, like I said, go back towhat's your definition of

(01:29:00):
success.
Is your definition of successMe having a million dollars in
the bank?
Me being all over TV?
You know everybody's definitionof success.
I sure want that, though.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
It's different.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I do want it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
But I am not going to trade in no belief for that,
though they just put it that wayno.
It ain't worth it.
Put it that way it ain't worthit, so I'm going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Though we got to die, we got to leave here one day.
What happened then?
I can't take it with me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
You know how.
Even you got to be to bury yourmoney and shit with you.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
That shit, man.
That's a mental problem.
Like for that to be part ofyour will.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
People you do have.
You still have gray robbers intoday's time.
They might it might not be ascommon as it used to be back in
the day, but if you got amillion people know you just
buried yourself with fivemillion dollars somebody going
to come out there with a shovelAin't no doubt Somebody coming.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
There you go.
It's more than worth their timeto dig your dead ass up to get
that money.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Exactly If I sit up here and spend six hours digging
your ass up for five milliondollars.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Hey, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Get it Shalty.
Somebody going to dig, yeah,dig with their hands for five
million.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
You got to be a sick motherfucker.
Yeah, you got to be sick thoughyou got to be sick, but you got
people don't care, because whatyou going to put, yourself
through to get that money.
What you going to have to see.
You going to have to re-ideadisturb a corpse.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
A corpse bro.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Do you do it shortly after he's been buried or do you
wait a couple years?
I would hope so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I would hope you wouldn't wait a couple years,
Because when you open up thatcasket it's going to be gruesome
.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
I think people just don't care though.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
It's going to be gruesome Because they say it
like I mean, you got to.
They always be like.
You know how they be likecaskies.
They might say you're a cask,oh it's an airtight casket.
Well, I heard a funeral diarysaying none of them are airtight
.
It gets so messy on the ground.
Now it was like when it rainedyour little one, they just
floated around in the casket.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I'm getting burned.
I'm getting cream out.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
So when you open up that casket.
You don't know what you'regoing to see.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, you do not know Gold andshit.
Man, you feel like this isprobably going to be bones in
her and like real, real talk,because you underground bro,
like this shit's not airtight,airtight wood.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't.
What's the word I'm looking for?
I can disrespect somebody gravefor no money.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I couldn't disrespect nobody grave for anything, it's
the idea of being buried in acasket to preserve the body.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
I think it's.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Or is it just more?

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
decorative If you want to preserve the body you
can mummify somebody Do what?
If you want to preserve a body,you mummify them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
I think it's more decorative Giving them a quote,
unquote of sending them off theright way, instead of just
throwing them in the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
A little piece of comfort, you know, like make
them look at peace, yeah, makethem look at peace.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Yeah, that's what, that's how I view it, but think
about how many humans way morehumans have just been thrown in
the ground than in a pine box orback in the day.
Oh yeah, I mean, we've probablyonly been putting people in
boxes for like 500 years or so.
Yeah, like our ancestors usedto just dig a hole or just kick

(01:32:17):
them off the hill or something.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
You'd be surprised how many remains.
People didn't found by justgoing out there digging up stuff
Like just for real.
People been out at four, five,hundred years, just digging up
people bones.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
I'm reading this book right now.
It's about the Sackler family.
They were very influential inbuilding the pharmaceutical
industry in this country.
Anyway, one of the Sacklers,arthur Sackler, he's the OG
Sackler.
He was obsessed with collectingEgyptian or well, collecting in

(01:32:53):
general, but particularly likeAsian art and art in general,
and he got an entire I think itwas like a pyramid from Egypt
and had it shipped to New Yorkand this thing was like, however
many millions of years old orwhat, thousands of years old or
whatever, and they rebuilt thatpyramid in the museum,

(01:33:20):
metropolitan Gallery of Art orsome shit in New York.
They moved a pyramid.
Yeah, they moved a pyramid.
They took it down, not apyramid, it was made out.
I forget what the fuck it wasmade out of.
They do understand pyramid.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
They used to bury people that died working on it
right, like slaves and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Yes, it wasn't a pyramid, it was something.
It was some structure that wasmade out of blocks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Okay, that's what I was thinking.
I was going to say damn, I dothat.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
How Excuse me I?

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
will have some sense of uneasy feeling to like visit
a period.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
I'm pretty sure it'd be cool to be looking at it from
the outside.
You didn't even get me going inthere, but I think there's like
a uneasy feeling, apparentlythose things are apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Those things are extraordinary, like encouraged.
They don't know how they werebuilt.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
And they still trying to go in there.
They gonna learn.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
They still trying to go in the pyramids.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Man food with mommy's all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Momifying is weird.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
You think it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
I think it is too, but like it, just I don't know
it's just another, another formof Admirations, like celebration
of death, I guess as a bearthey used to bear them with all
they stuff, like all the goldand everything.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
They starting to do some weird shit with, like the
dead.
Now I didn't see some shitthrough social media Like no lie
.
I seen one dude, his, hisbrother had passed and like he's
a street dude.
You know, I say I got a lot ofmoney.
He, he put on, he put the bluntat the funeral, put he the lit

(01:35:05):
blunt in his brother mile.
Bullshit, you, not you lookthis shit up.
Had the blunt lit in hisbrother mile and everybody,
whole family, just gatheredaround it, just celebrate, like
I'm talking about.
Disturbing is disturbing butyou looking at this like it make
you think this shit ain't real.
But it's, it's real peopledoing shit like that and.

(01:35:28):
I put no damn blood.
Man and for one.
My family ain't gonna let youeven try.
No bullshit like this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Think about how much weird shit went on before
everybody had a fucking camera.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Thank you, yeah, right now now you just able to
see it.
Think about all the shit wecouldn't see because it went all
man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Dude.
I saw yesterday in the newswhere this lady had built up a
YouTube channel with herbusiness partner about how to
Parent children and theyarrested her for child abuse.
Oh Wow yeah.
That's crazy.
She was like she built achannel, a YouTube channel, off

(01:36:10):
of parenting, like her parentingstyle and teaching it to people
, and what have you?

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
and the whole time she was torturing these children
.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
I believe money and it sounds like that, why they
say you cannot believeeverything you see, bro, I call.
You can't believe everythingyou see.
Everything you see ain't ain'twhat it is.
Everything the glitter ain't go.
I'm about to say thateverything the glitter ain't go,
ain't that?
What a bunch a and what it's on.
Yeah, yeah what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I've got four minutes .

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Everything sweet and everything that goes Go Hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
I Hear somebody see, you got seat one time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
That's who can sign, boy yeah yeah, I don't care.
Nobody say like Between ourlifetime.
We ask me B-Singles dog man.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
Darn it the people that people don't talk about no
of fun Darnia, john, oh callwhat was the name.

Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Call time is called Thomas.
Damn my boy right there.
See, I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
He's still like he doesn't kind of reinventing
himself, but like the peoplethat don't know about it, talk
about them.
Or like a fun Darnia John Calltime.
It's like music, soul, child.
Music, soul, child, bro.
Like man.
We have some man Freakin, let'ssee.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
What is that 90s R&B?
No, it's like didn't well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
It's 90s too, but it's like early 2000s, real
2000s air R&B was hard too, nowReese's oh my god, yes, Cisco's
Incomplete.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
I just heard that song yesterday, but I'm gonna
tear it up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Listen to that be this guy had that silver hair
for your.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Even though it seems I may have everything.
I don't want to be a lonelyfool.
This man said all of the money,the car, don't, none of this
shit matter if I can't have you.
That's love, bro.
That's what.
That's what this, this, that'swhat the world need right now.
We need to talk about lovemobile.
Who has a?

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
who is missing?
You said us sure.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
I should.
That's the goat.
Well, I mean, you know us he.
You know I'm talking aboutpeople that people don't really
talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
No, Usher, though usher started 90s, yeah, yeah,
but see usher, man, usher isdoing what I think he doing,
what Drake is doing now.
Well, he was a bit doing whatDrake is doing now, but that way
, what I mean by that is hekeeping up with the time, like
usher.
Every freakin there are errorhe dropping and he'll have a hit

(01:38:48):
with me.
Go back and look it up.
They just reinvented.
Go back and look at usher.
Always have a hit, no matterwhat error music.
Yeah, it's gonna be something.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
That's equivalent to Nick Saban.
Nick Saban changed with thetimes, or a coach that changes
with the time Success over along period of time.
Yeah, more than likely, or theyhave to.
They have to evolve, with yougonna have to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
You gonna have to, it's gonna.
You gonna get forced to,otherwise you're gonna continue
to get your ass beat.
That's right.
So, I'm telling you bro.
That's why that's why usher I'mtelling you usher will forever
be the goat to me and R&Bbecause this man constantly you
be like man ain't heard from nousher in the wild.
They say no, he's droppingsomething out Like I did good,

(01:39:31):
good, that shit.
He got with something on it.
It may got you ever thoughtyou're gonna see a usher feature
in 21 Savage song.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
No, exactly Know how to evolve with the time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
He just know how to go.
Bro, I'm telling you now, Idon't he also.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
That shows he's also staying connected in Atlanta man
.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
I don't disapprove with none of it, cuz you know.
You know what need to be done.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
You know, and just for you, you doing it for them
too before I lose this thought,I want to talk to you about this
1017 Gucci man with Zop.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
What drop?

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
top is he.
So he's a good talentidentifier.
But they are troubled souls.
Pusha Stee didn't see, that'show he was, but didn't big scar,
didn't he pass?
Yeah he passed and then fullyoh yeah yeah, like there's a
fool.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
Oh food young.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
There's four or five of them that they're pretty damn
good.
Push ice in particular.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Push ice, you like Pusha, I fuck with you like
pusha, but I just been on youlisten to big walk dog.
Fuck, yeah, man, I love big.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
Walk dog.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
I love walk dog.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Walk dog got them bars.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
Man, if anybody knows walk dog, please Put me in
contact.
I got some shit that I know hecan wrap on.
Well, I bet you it's gotta havea damn piano going.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Definitely got some she cold tovin.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Hey, go go walk dog team.
He be snapping um.
I think, though I think themost one, one of the most
successful Like team buildingstories is your guy there, yeah
yeah, see him.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
G.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Definitely so undefeated.
I fooled them.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Also, with 1017, you've got walk dog, who is
badass, you got big fizzle, yougot cootie.
Both of them both of them boysare from Arkansas and they can
go.
Yeah, so he's, he's got.
He identifies good talent, buthe's, you gotta be able to keep
him on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
I think if push ice there and and on food, you
didn't go to jail, it'll be adifferent ball game.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Yeah, I think it'd be a different ball game, I think
a little bit of a setback.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Yeah, he just did, he , he signed on.
You know who TL Eastinco is hefrom?
He from Alabama, he's fromBelsman.
Oh, he's from science by Gucci,from so and Sink oh, he already
had a couple hits.
Before he even got signed sinkor dodo, he said, uh, check this
, I'm checking off the checklist.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Hey, maybe.
How long did Gucci live inBessamer?

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Gucci, because he be.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
He be claiming Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
Now, I know, I know he he's from, he from them.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yeah, no, he from there, where he from.
Yeah, but like doesn't hehollers on foreign shit?

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Yeah, he grew up in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you grew up in Atlanta, but
you're gonna claim where yougrew up.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
I'm born in Marie, but I grew up in Philly, you
know but he's.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
It sounds like he spent like 10 or 12 years in
Bessamer.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
I don't know, but it like he still have ties there,
though it's like Rick Rose Shit.
Rick Roe got time in.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Mississippi even miss it Snoop Dogg from Mississippi.
A lot of people don't know that.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
There.
They themselves were born inMississippi, or their parents,
no, they were born here, Snoopwas born in McComb, wasn't he?
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:43:03):
Oprah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:05):
Oprah.
He fell from.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
I claim, is what they were born cause yes, cause, yes
, right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
I think Ross was born in.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
That's dope, though, like that, just another piece of
Mississippi dead for you don'tknow about so we've just got to
have people that had theirformative years here, which
don't don't get me wrong we havehad some of the most talented
and well-known, well-renownedartists, writers, people that

(01:43:38):
have participated in the artsthat have ever existed in the
United States of America, elvisPresley being one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
I just feel like we got something different.
It's in the water, it's in thewater, it's something, is just
something in the water, it'ssomething in the water.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Definitely.
Yeah, got no trouble to havesome talent down here.
Look at the resources we gotcompared going up north.
Hey, we making it, we making ithappen.
Yeah make a ham cam.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
I just feel like this will make our make, make us so
good at our crap.
Because we got to work there.
We, I told I had anotherinterview with somebody and I
told him that I was like lookhow much harder we got to work
as opposed to us not being fromNew York or some shit like.
Then we got out of, we reallygot out of talent.
We just ain't got the resources.

(01:44:24):
A lot of them got the resourcesbut they don't have half the
time and I ain't taking it awayfrom all, because some of them
they can really go, but some ofthem got half the talent but
they got the resource.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
I think, though, like a bigger, a bigger place like
New York, atlanta, somethinglike that is Saturated though
it's, so it's like super oversaturated.
Like miss, if you, you gonna, Ican find something, you gonna
find singers here.
You know you can find singers,you can find all that.
But like you go to Atlanta, alot of them probably trying to
do the same thing.

(01:44:56):
It's saturated, that's right.
Really so they have to theyhave to to Find a way to stick
out if you think about it, theSouth in general really runs.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
South got something to say pop culture and music,
country music, hip-hop music.
You look across the music, butmusical spectrum it's either.
Southern, southern artists orpeople heavily influenced by
Southern artists like JamesBrown.
Like it doesn't get any betterthan James Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Tabity.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Elvis Presley, I Mean hell.
Even right here in Philadelphiawe've got Marty Stewart, otis
Rush.
We got too smooth too smooth onthe rise coming up by the be.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I'm gonna tell you I don't.
I think this is what I think.
I Think people, people want towait till you get these
accolades to give you yourflowers, and I don't see why.
If you don't, you just dope.
I don't why you got the win, aaward.

(01:46:01):
You ain't got the win.
Producer of the year for me toknow.
You five you see I'm saying,yeah, I ain't got a way to see
you on BET.
I'm looking at all the shitthat you did before you got to
be.
That's what got you to be T youknow.
I'm saying the BT didn't justpick you and say, nah, like All
this shit that he did before BET, that's what I'm looking at.

(01:46:24):
But I'm gonna give your flowersthe a lot of people.
They want to wait till you getthe Grammy.
Man, I already shit.
We always nah, fuck this.
I'm fine now.
Fuck, fuck when I make it toBET, fuck when I make it to the
to the Grammy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
Give me my flowers now cuz, if you fool me heavy,
like you say you do, you knowthat's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:46:45):
You know what you know is you know, they say,
that's gonna be yeah, that'seventually is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
So why not take this trip with me?
Why I climbed to get there?
Don't sit here and have to help, don't watch me.
Find something to prop my owndamn Ladder up so I can climb up
this damn thing.
And then now you want to.
Yeah, I knew you, always knewyou, and now hold the ladder for
me.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
That's what they I have people say that now man,
I'll, and I do appreciate it cuzsome people are genuine about
man.
I always knew you, you this dayand the third.
But don't wait to a personAchieve and a crazy amount of
success before you give them.
They just do.
Before you get them, they fly.

(01:47:29):
I feel like that could be alittle disrespectful to somebody
who done put years of workingin and then you be like man I,
you know, I always knew you hadit, you know saying like now I
get that person, they fly whenyou see them put in the fucking
working in another words tosmooth saying Give my
motherfucking flowers, give memy flowers.
I don't work for them, bitch.
Every one of every rose, everydandelion, every tulip, late

(01:47:55):
nights early morning.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Oh yeah, you said dandelion.
But, yeah, it was our flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
Man for real.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
I ain't saying I ain't saying I'm not gonna like
fool anybody, like no, I'm afool with you regardless, but
you got your ones.
That, like he said, I alwaysknew you're gonna make it like.
No, like, give me my supportnow that this is what people
honestly don't know about whatwe do.
This is the hard part ofactually Like feeling the

(01:48:23):
support.
You know I'm saying we go outof town and we'll see a shit ton
of support from a bunch of damn.
I mean they had tables deckedout with food and liquor and
everything damn it.
I said damn you feel me you know, and this ain't no attack, this

(01:48:46):
ain't no attack on nobody inthe hometown, like that.
But I'm saying, if we just givethat love, give the same love,
reciprocated.
You know, I'm saying becauseyou never know, like st Louis,
how they decked this shit outfor us.
That type of shit they're gonnaalways show them a little.
They won't come back.
Guess we're going back Cuz weknow what they did.
No first impression matters,bro.

(01:49:08):
Yeah, I for real.
Just keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
I was talking with worm the other day, I'd posed to
him that we should start amusic festival mm-hmm Field
party music festival andPhiladelphia, show the county
all types of music and and makeit a also told tophor suggestion
to tophor wish you makePhiladelphia the cultural hub of
Mississippi, because thereain't nobody standing up right

(01:49:33):
now saying hey, it's us, y'allcome here, y'all come create
with us.
If you're an artist, come here.
There ain't nobody saying Ithink.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
I think starting to some like, the hardest thing of
anything is starting is to getstarted.
But once you do it, once you doit, it become clockwork.
It really becomes clockwork.
Yeah, never, I never sat backand be like damn, I know, I know
, I did not have a dream ofbeing a producer at 10 years old

(01:50:00):
.
Never, I always do music, Imean, of course, but never
they'll be like me.
I'm gonna be a producer.
But then turn around, lookthere, nick.
Hey, I think I'm gonna startdoing it, one to save us money,
to it, just make life easy forboth of us.
But then we start becomingclockwork.
This is clockwork.
Now you know what I'm gonna do.

(01:50:22):
Like what Andre three that youknow I'm gonna do it so that I
think, if it was to startsomething down here, everybody
like, yeah well, we know how thefirst one went and just try to
come up ways to make it betterfor the next year and keep it
going.
Nobody else doing it.
You gonna have people criticizeyou regardless.
So my will do it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:42):
That how I look at people gonna find something
negative to say I don't care,like, it don't matter what, you
don't.
They go, they gonna findsomething.
They gonna have somethingnegative to say about this when
they come out.
They gonna find something.
If this, if this episodereaches enough people, you gonna
have one or two people in thecoming.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
And guess what?
Oh, no doubt.
And guess what?
I don't give a fuck, like Idon't care.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
I mean and it may not be about what we talk about I
take on something about thecolor this couch they knit, bro.
They'll be in my video.
Why his nails?
What?
They could not come out latercolor, why is there so long?
Then somebody else a comment.
But see, I'm gonna tell youthis the good part about having
people, fans who really fuckwith you have somebody say well,
he got them near time.
I he gone, use his hand to dothis with you.

(01:51:31):
Have somebody's coming up Well,at least it near clean.
Yep, see, I'm saying see,sometimes you ain't got, you
ain't gotta fight all yourbattles.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
Yep, and now look at this way.
You need comments.
In a way, you need that.
So now I got this negativecomment, but it's still a
comment.
So, thank you for the staff forone and two.
Now I got another comment withsomebody defending me.
Now I got support and and I gotsupport and two comments and
Four views and then other peopleprobably see y'all arguing
under my damn pose and now I gotmore people coming to my pose.

(01:52:01):
Thank you for this freepublicity.
That's all it is.
That's how you got to look atit.
I didn't have people to man did.
I didn't did beat reviews.
They black man, they beat trashis hail one of his songs.
Like a player, I think I toldyou Like a player.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
I sent it into a beat review.
Most underrated song on mycatalog man like a player.

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
I, I sent that beat it was to.
It was to beat reviews, I'drather do beat views.
But the first one man, hey, Iwas the last beat of that night
and they fuck with that beathard.
He said, man, like they weregiving out stars and stuff.
I shot a producer grab.
That was like man, hey, man,it'd be dope life for real.

(01:52:41):
Man, probably about a weeklater it's this other dude, he
did one and I sent the samebeating man, hella, did it sound
like a Damn porno from thestart of something.
Hey, huh, I was confused there.
I like, okay, well, you know,whatever, whatever, but shit

(01:53:02):
like that just made me go hard.
Okay, well, that's, that's it.
Yeah, I'm gonna make somethingelse on your ass, but just know
I'm always remember that.
That's why I always say, bruh,when you do reviews, be careful
what you say.
I don't, I don't, I don't belike I will flame your ass, but
I'm more so will help you.
Like when I did a music review,the main thing I kept telling

(01:53:23):
people hey, well, your qualityjust not there.
I'm not saying that your trash,you just need.
You need to either look up tohow to make your quality sound
better or go to the studio anddo it.
You know, just do it like that.
They got people man, that's it.
Trash your foot.
That's just how, like a porno,nick did a song on that bitch.
Look at it Killed it, thank you.
That's why I'm saying what oneperson don't like, somebody else

(01:53:47):
gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
Oh, absolutely, I mean everything I would say
everything ain't for everybody.
I'm always remember that,though, and well, I mean, you
got to as a as a person.
You got to take criticism instride, and you got to use it
and and channel it in a positiveway for you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Yeah, but you know this fuel some people, people
who, who do reviews or whatever,and they just bash people who
are actually trying to get yourapproval.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
That's my whole shit.

Speaker 1 (01:54:13):
But then, like when that person boss up, they like
see, I mean you just got to taketheir criticism and use it.
They're gonna do that anyway.
You know, I'm saying like ifyou tell me my quality is not
good.
I'm just gonna try to make myquality better.
But at least you give me advice.
You ain't sitting up here.
Ah, man, that's your trash.
You fuck that.
Why the fuck you even doing?

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
this criticism?
That's, that's criticism.
Yeah, this is fake, is this isfake this spec.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
So when you now look at it, how this shit turning out
, and bro got some, bro gotplacements, they did.
I don't give a fuck though,yeah, whatever.
But who's to say now, the shoecan always, you know, I'm saying
the tables can always turn, nodoubt, tables always turn.
So now, who to say isn't theball in my court?
Now you probably won't come dosomething me, hey.

(01:55:03):
But oh, I remember you, I'mgonna remember.
I make no, I made that I makeporno music, remember and see I
screen shot stuff too.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
I Screen shot to take a picture is something
disrespectful.
So, just two years from now, ifour payoffs just happen across
again and you want to reach outor what it I'm, I'm gonna show
you this.
I did you this.
You right here.
Okay, I ain't gonna even bethis, but I ain't gonna work
with you.
Yeah, it's not, I'm not gonnawork with you.
Not being petty.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
It's not being real, it's just being real.
I rather you give me truecriticism, like because that
wasn't criticism.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
That's this you tried to disrespect me, you try to do
shit.
I didn't do nothing to you todeserve what you said, to try to
get it he, he, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
So you try to get a he he instead of the center
paper.
Like man, look, I think youneed to do this next time.
Sing out like this, sound likethey make your beat, like they
you.
This that's criticism.
Criticism because you actuallydo want to see your.
Structive criticism and I cantake it.
But you got some who can't takea structure criticism.
I just on them.
Now you got other artists whocan't take that shit for nothing

(01:56:11):
.
And if you can't take astructure criticism, you've been
not ever seen me.
Nothing.
Gotta be coachable.
There, there you go, man.
I go back to the Atlanta thing.
I ever go to a lamp, I Said.
I said I will always do thiswith.
I ever go and actually get inthe session with a bunch of
people who's already on.
Guess what I'm gonna do shutthe fuck up.
And I'm really gonna shut upand listen and look, cuz I want

(01:56:35):
to see how y'all operate.
I don't know, ain't never beendid that before.
I Feel so am I?
Yeah, like I think I'm.
I'm so much of a sponge bro.
I call.
I call Nick Brevin, I learnedsomething new.
And be like bro, I just learnedthis.
Or I want to learn this, youknow, that's just how it is, but
some folks ain't coachable bro.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Got to be coachable.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
I want to get y'all's opinion on this before we wrap
it up.
Dion Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:57:02):
Goat.
Do y'all like have?

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
y'all been keeping up with how he's handling his new
job at Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
Yeah, so what?

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
so he overturned the roster almost completely the
First one to ever do it.
It's within the guidelines,it's within the rules.
He's got 86 new kids on thatroster and Came out one day this
past week.
Two things he said there is noculture.
He said it's all about winningand basically he doesn't care if

(01:57:34):
the kids get along so long asthey're winning.
And and he also said that he'snot a Florida State Seminole,
that he graduated from TalladegaCollege.
He said a lot of Polarizingthings in some people's eyes.
Do y'all Support and agree withthe way Dion's handling
Colorado?
I?

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
Feel like at the end of the day, it's gonna boil down
to winning, simple as that Ialways do.
I mean, people can try to makeit out to be something other
than it, but Regardless ofEverything that you see it, he
said if he go on to have awinning season, nobody's gonna

(01:58:17):
talk about what he said, not adamn one person.
It's not gonna matter.
I Ain't saying that cuz heblack.
I ain't saying that cuz he DionSanders.
I ain't saying that cuz he inthe hall of fame.
I'm saying it because if he goon to have a winning season,
ain't nobody gonna curtain.
Nothing is he knew it, colorado, what he did at Jackson State,

(01:58:39):
ain't nobody gonna curb her.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
You, you, you, you tipped on culture, oh.
So my thing is, whateverColorado did before he got there
, it got you.
Y'all record that y'all hadlast year Is that prior to him
coming there?
So honestly and I we said itbefore we even got on her
Whatever the hell he do, if hejust win one more game is better

(01:59:04):
than what he did, which I didbefore he got there.
So Sometimes, man, that go backto the stubborn shit that I was
speaking on.
Whatever y'all used to do didn'twork.
Try something else, dosomething else, cuz you losing a
lot of people.
This is how you loseInteraction with this generation
, with whatever you ain't goingwith the time.

(01:59:24):
I ain't finna, I'm not finna.
Do all this old-fashioned stuff.
No more.
Like yo, we like, let's say,for instance, with the band and
stuff I play band at UWA bro.
So my first year was a lot oftraditional stuff, straight
traditional stuff.
I'll fight song First downwhite fuck, touch it.
Yeah, I went on at far but.

(01:59:45):
But you know, but the band atthe time was majority black, so
True enough.
Naturally, we finna bring inour culture along with more
up-to-date stuff.
So eventually it changed fromthe kickoff we playing freaking

(02:00:09):
Go big red to now.
Oh yeah, and we all got somered men we playing boozy.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
I like that way more.

Speaker 1 (02:00:21):
Exactly, and you are white.
So like I'm being honest, likeit went from us, go big.
So now we playing boozyFootball, team height, knocking
somebody out.
They damn cleat off a kickoffbecause they hear some damn
boozy, we that's.
That's.
That's the new culture now.

(02:00:42):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
I hope Deion goes undefeated.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
I really do too, bro.
I hope I hope.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
I think that what he's doing is Proving that
there's more than one way toskin a cat.
Now, what you said, nick, isobviously the truth.
If, if he goes one and eleven,or just, I mean, let's say he
has a sub par season, you know,wins less than he loses, has a

(02:01:09):
losing season it's not gonna beas important if he goes on the
wind like what he was saying.
But he really is just aDifferent version of the way he
was coached at Florida State.
I mean, it sounds to me likehis defensive coordinator his

(02:01:32):
name escapes me right nowcoached similar, similarly to
the way Deion coaches very inyour face.
Someone call it old school, butthe thing that Deion does very,
very well is that he is able tobe flashy and flamboyant but

(02:01:53):
also get up in your ass.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
He'll praise you the same way.
He'll come down on you and he's.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
He's like discipline is important.
A lot of people look at flashyand Flamboyant and think
Undisciplined.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Well, he's confident he is that and and that.
And Confidence tends to rub aninsecure person wrong.
Yes, very much so it does.
When you you what, you gonnaget mad at him for being
confident.
He's always been that way.
You have never known him to beany other way than how he is now

(02:02:29):
.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
So am I right or?

Speaker 3 (02:02:30):
am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
What's he saying when you look good?
Look good, feel good play good,look good.
Like yo shit hell.
So what Hell?
I can look good because I playgood, I feel good.
So what that?

Speaker 3 (02:02:42):
man said look at me.
What make you think?
What the fuck did he say?
He said the opinion that youhave of me is not the opinion
that I have of myself.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
Did y'all see the spat with Danny Cannell?
I did Between Deon and DannyCannell, right, all right.
So there was an interview.
Deon was in an interview thisweek and he was told that he's a
seminal.
But Warren Sapp visitedColorado this week.
He was at practice.
Blah, blah, blah.
The lady was asking Deon aquestion in the press conference

(02:03:17):
and she said but he's ahurricane in your seminal.
And he said oh, oh, hold on, Iain't no seminal, he's like.
I graduated from TalladegaCollege, hbcu.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
That what Deon said?

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
Yes, Danny Cannell saw that clip and basically said
something to the effect ofthere's a way to handle this
question and the way Deonanswered it, is not it?
I guess he was insinuating thatDeon was disrespectful to
Florida State because FloridaState let him be Deon, and Deon

(02:03:56):
roasted his ass.
In a response he was like ain'tnobody ever let Deon be Deon,
but Deon I've been this way I'vebeen him.

Speaker 3 (02:04:06):
I've been him.
I feel like, though, I've beenhim.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
They be trying to blatantly disrespect him in his
face and then like just themedia and then when he, when he
lashed back they can't take it,and that's what I.

Speaker 2 (02:04:18):
that's what I like about him the most is Deon says
what's on his mind.
He doesn't filter it based offof how it's going to be
perceived in the media.
All he cares about is makingthat seemingly making Colorado
better.

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
And they throw them a little rock and hit that man
all day until he decided tothrow a big ad brick.
And now y'all want to pressureeverybody how to get, but hurt.
Yeah, that ain't how they, thatain't how you know what type of
person he is.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
They're always been one way and they're fucking over
.
The NFL is fucking over MichaelIrvin.
Have y'all seen that shit?
I think I know what you'retalking about.
Oh, thank God.
So Michael Irvin was accused ofsexually harassing a woman at
the hotel Marriott Hotel.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
He stayed at, I see.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
And I think it was Arizona went for the Super Bowl
in February and I have a videotoo like he they've got a video
but there's no audio.
But I mean, if you watch thevideo and that's all the
evidence you have to go off ofplus witnesses.
And witnesses are saying didn'tshit happen.
The video is saying didn't shithappen?
And they're still have havingsuspended or fired and he's yet

(02:05:24):
to get back on televisionbecause it's stupid of those
allegations.

Speaker 1 (02:05:28):
So back to what I said earlier get them stubborn
assholes about this power.
That's what they need to do.
I'm telling you, bro, I went myhaving Michael Irvin, my boss.
I wouldn't either Readee likeUncle Shay.
Shay man, you not know.
Club.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Shay Shay man dude, I thought Shay Shay was gonna put
them hands on a job of ranchdaddy.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
Oh shit, you see the head they ain't run up.
Bro, have you seen?

Speaker 3 (02:05:54):
Dude, he was seen.
You seen, stephen A Can't wesay you ever seen a?

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Yeah, we seen a Some of us.
Never seen a what's it up.

Speaker 4 (02:06:04):
What's your wall?
They're like no, but it ain'tpretty, you see.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
Stephen A and Shannon's interview and he and
Stephen A Like I knew at thatmoment that it was over with
when they were talking.
You know after what happenedwith Hamlin and stuff, what
happened with her oh, demarHamlin, you know.
You know the show.
You know when Skip made thattweet.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
What he did, what he say Skip's a dumb ass.
He's not a dumb ass, but he's a.
He's a little skill, he's apeculiar individual.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
I used to love Skip, but lately he re-adeal.
He liked to say shit, now justto get in the press.
Yeah, and.
I understand your position ofyour job, but at the same time,
you got a lot of come on now,what did what?

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
did he do?
I think it was?

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
it was something like that.
It was a very important gameand they should have kept that
game going after that happenedand stuff.
An insensitive comment.
It was just insensitive, andyou know, true enough, the
internet is not a place to besensitive on, by far no please,
please, do not be sensitive onit.

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
You can't be.

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
You can't take shit to heart on the internet.
Because the internet is a placemy band already say this shit
all the time.
The internet is just a place togive people who are scared or a
dumb ass of voice.
That's all it is so.
But they just stay right to saywhat they want to say on the
internet, because I can'tphysically touch you.
When once you piss me off, butcoming from skill and you

(02:07:33):
working with a man who thenplayed in the NFL, who's a Hall
of Fame this day and a third,you know how he feel about that
situation man died.
They had to save him.
You shouldn't say anything.
That got do with nothing aboutthat, except you praying for
that man and left alone.
He's stupid.
Yeah, he's stupid.
I don't give a shit.
I never come in on celebrityposts.

(02:07:53):
I come in and say, man, youstupid shit.
I just wish that they see it.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
That situation, coupled with the Brony James
situation, has me worried thatsomething's going on.

Speaker 1 (02:08:12):
You know that's not the first time it happened.
At USC, though that happened.
I think it was a year before Aplayer had the same thing happen
.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
I think he's got Cardi Agery.
Some people speculate that thevaccines have something to do
with it.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
I don't think it's the vaccine.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
I think one vaccinated.
Do what you want me to tell youwhat I think this is.
I'm going to tell you.
Seriously, it got a lot to dowith the food that we're
consuming.
Believe it or not it's the foodthat, but the food that we're
consuming, bro it's killing us,bro.

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
Oh, you're saying the people that are falling out.
It's because of the food thatwe're eating.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
It just tastes so good, it's in the food.
Think about how many youngpeople in their 30s that are
dying from heart attack.
I know I have two of my friendsclose friends died.
One was 37.
The other one was 33, I think.
Heart attack, bro.

(02:09:13):
You're not supposed to die froma heart attack when you're 30.
When you're 30.
It's not supposed, you're notreally supposed to die from a
heart attack, no way.
But let alone being in your 30s.
These are your prime years andthese people dropping dead from
a heart attack.
It's in the food, bro, thisprocessed food that we love so

(02:09:33):
much and I'm a fast food lover,show tastes, good Lover.
It's in the food, bro.
What else can it be?
What else can it be?
People can say it's thevaccination.
I believe it's the food, bro,because everybody ain't
vaccinated and they still dyingfrom heart attack.

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
But everybody eat fast food.
I think, personally, people tryto find a vaccine.
They use a vaccine as an excuseto just be oblivious to the
actual problem.
Sometimes I'm not saying lookyour belief, your belief.
If you against it, be againstit.
But when shit hit the fan forsomebody who did take it, don't
blame the vaccine, becausepeople who did take the vaccine.

(02:10:11):
When shit hit the fan forsomebody who didn't take the
vaccine, the person with thevaccine gonna say, well, your
ass should have took the vaccine.
So that's what I'm going to do.
You know, we just basicallydoing this.
Stop doing this and do this.
Focus on that.
That's the problem.
This is what it is.
But y'all, y'all going streamall this music.

(02:10:33):
Stream stream too smooth, payfor it, search up too smooth,
search up cold making moves.
Working on the album yes, sir,working on the next album.

Speaker 2 (02:10:46):
Is that you working on the next two smooth album?
Are you doing a producer?

Speaker 3 (02:10:50):
He's out, he's out, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
Let me get on that bitch.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
Come on, we gonna talk for real Because I ain't
gonna cap this one.
I wanted to be.
This is my take on.
I'm gonna say this so we canwrap it up.
This is my take on albums.
Like you doing albums, yournext album really don't supposed
to sound like your first one.
I think you need to have yourproduction gets better.

(02:11:14):
You know, damn the music like,of course the theme of your song
, like smooth hotel, is R&B.
So if Nick drop another R&Balbum, of course it's gonna be
R&B, but I want the productionto be better.
I want it to sound a littlemore clear.
I want us to try new things, anew sound, whatever.
That's how I do.
I like albums Stepping outsideof that comfort zone.

(02:11:35):
Yeah, like Travis Scott albums,His shit always sound different
every time.
You're not gonna get an albumthat always sound the same I
think that's a truerepresentation of an artist
truly being an artist and makingwhat they feel like they're
supposed to make in that time?
Now it don't always work, but,like what I'm saying is, though
a lot of artists, they'll try todo a different genre, though

(02:11:56):
with that, don't do a differentgenre.
Try to stay in your genre, butjust make your production sound
more cleaner, like, let me, Igot some new equipment, now Let
me try to utilize this on thisalbum.
This album is gonna sound likemy new album is literally gonna
sound way more powerful than myfirst one.

Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Cole making moves.
We don't give a fuck about howyou feel.

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Well, everybody be putting new views and new
everything on your way.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
All type of custom words in my tag.

Speaker 2 (02:12:22):
Cole making moves.
We don't care about how youfeel, is that it?
Yeah, cole making moves?

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
we don't care about how you feel.
I had to improv on that thing.
I had somebody, I had toimprovise Cole.
I had somebody tell me.
I know they say look, cole, Iknow that you don't really care
about how we feel, but I'mreally ready for this album.
I holler.
Hey, I liked it.
I liked it that's.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
that's that could turn into a thing.
I'm telling you that could be athing.

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
Cole, love my tag bro .
And I never expected the tag togo like that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
I never.
I know you don't care about howI feel, you know, but but I
like that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:00):
I'm ready for this album.
Yeah, Like they do that I'msaying, bro, shout out, I'm Nick
you name.
Shout out Nick Finch and myhomeboy, Nick Finch man.
I'm telling you, bro, like they.
You got my name, boy, youbetter, but they, I'm telling
you, bro, people do that type ofstuff and it it make you feel
good.

Speaker 2 (02:13:18):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (02:13:19):
Because people, people really deal like they,
they pay attention and peoplethat support, like that, are all
way full with you.
Hey, don't let it be so longnext time.
It ain't man that ain't.
I'm going to give you somethingyou can play too, before the
thing starts.

Speaker 2 (02:13:35):
Hell yeah, y'all run this bitch back.
We appreciate y'all.
Kelly, hold on before we go.

Speaker 3 (02:13:39):
I got some advice for people that's upcoming doing a
thing, whether it's podcast andbusiness, whatever whatever you
doing, if you truly believe init, if you got a passion for it,
if you love it, stay consistent, man.
It's going to work.
It's going to work.
But it ain't going to work ifyou don't stay consistent.
If you get tired, take a breakand come back.

(02:14:01):
Don't take no long ass breaknow.
Don't stay gone too damn long,but keep going.
Stay consistent.
Consistency, believe inyourself number one, perfecting
your craft and working hard andstaying consistent is going to
happen.
I'm a living witness, he aliving witness.

(02:14:22):
We have seen more progress inthe last six months than we have
seen in the last six years.
We got the numbers to show itSix months of us just putting
our head down and just grinding.
We outworked ourselves by 12times what we did in the last

(02:14:42):
six years.
No lie, number wise, money wise, everything.
We will post the damn, whateverthe receipts to show you.
In the last six months,everything changed.
So stay consistent.
If you believe in something, ifyou know you got something, man
, keep going, it's going tohappen.
That's all I got to say.

(02:15:04):
Keep streaming that music.
Too smooth, cold, making moves.
I don't know what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
my name was Cold making moves too smooth Ay.

Speaker 2 (02:15:15):
Countyline congregation.
Countyline we love y'all Don'tever start that下去.

Speaker 3 (02:15:21):
He always says don't tell pe compartment.

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
Don't tell, don't tell anyone what to do.

Speaker 3 (02:15:26):
C mine Confirmation, he's so Curse Bye.

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