#129 - Mary Ryan Brown - The County Line

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, I'm over my shoes and sometimes you make
invoits for this.
You make a knot.
There are profiles that youknow.
10 years on a dating app orlonger, you know, you start to
learn who's real and who's a botand you understand how to

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distinguish and differentiatebetween those two entities that
find themselves on dating apps.
So this particular young lady,very pretty okay, claims that
she is a mobile masseuse and her, but her profile looks very,

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very generic, sure, like AIgenerated it.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Not like a cartoon, not like CGI or anything like
that.
It just looks like thesepicture.
It looks like it's artificiallyintelligent in the way, like
the settings of the picture,like the girl looks the same in
all the pictures, but thebackground.
There's something off there.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, smooth features .
Why are we at a cafe in Tokyo?
Mm-hmm that twinkle in theireye.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
This is probably not good of me, mary-rynne, but
whenever I run into thesesituations, I do like to have
fun with them, sure and so, andwhat I mean by that is string
them along, and so she.
So I asked for I immediately.
I've just gotten to the pointnow on dating apps where I'm
just like, if I match withsomebody and then we have a

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message or two, I just I justsend them my phone number and
say text me.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
And it's worked very well.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Having a lot of phone number success, but the phone
number for this mobile masseuseis a Pennsylvania number.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh girl, oh my gosh, okay Well, do you think maybe
she's Amish and trying to likeget out of that oppressive
lifestyle?
Do you think that's apossibility?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm sure I don't think so, because she looks very
, very Latina.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, you know, the Pennsylvania Dutch have a very
rich Latinx heritage, as we allknow.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I was unaware.
Oh yeah, it's probablyincreased since all of the
border madness, so I'm sayingyeah well, you know they have a
shared interest in buildingstuff.
I would say For sure, for surethey're from the.
Yeah, I mean they've got a lotof similar strengths and

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participate in a lot of the sametrades.
I guess you could say yeah, thetrades, the trades.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, so she's got it .
She's Latina, possibly,possibly just full, 100% AI.
She's got a Pennsylvania numberand she wants you to catch
these hands, she wants to rub upon you.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yes, and she's very adamant about her being mobile.
So I mean, she's mentioned twoor three times that she will
come to me.
Okay, and you know I'm gonnaask you.
I'm on deep tissue massage, butshe said that all the different

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types.
She sent me a list this long ofall the stuff that she does,
all massage related.
By the way, no nefarious actswere listed in her list of
services.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
So you know, I don't think there would be different
prices for different types ofmassage, but massages, but what
do I know?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
There are, there definitely are.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I figured there would be a range.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, yeah, I know this because my husband goes and
gets massages all the time froma reputable, you know, human
person.
But yeah, there's differentprices for all the different
types.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, have you ever heard of this website?
It's called something rub Rubmakes, maybe, or something like
that, but it's these.
What it does is identifies likemostly Asian massage parlors
that are known for happy endingsor whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Sign me up.
Sign me up.
I'm very intrigued.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I've never, I've never grown the balls to
identify one of these or locateone of these places and then
actually go to it for just amassage.
Never, never.
Just to test the waters, youknow, just to see if the
atmosphere is right for thattype of thing, if it could be
surmised, if that goes on there.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's somebody's atmosphere for sure.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's one across from theRoosevelt, new Orleans, that's
like a foot massage place andit's like a walk up and I'm for
sure they're getting freaky inthere and I'm intrigued.
I really am.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Have you seen the reporting in the any of the
stories coming out of New Yorkwhere apparently the
prostitution is just rampantlike more than it has been
traditionally in New York?
And they're saying it's becauseof largely Latin American women
who are coming from these othercountries looking for a better

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life.
But they say it's like they'vegot little kids running around
with their literatureadvertising for them.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And that's the reality of human trafficking.
You know I don't pretend toknow a lot about the subject,
because I don't, but I know it'sreal and that's sad.
I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It is sad, it is yeah , but women.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
there's some divorced dad out there who's very happy.
He's just cranking up, you knowcreed on the way to go see
these women.
So good for him, I guess.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, I mean what there's.
There's definitely a market.
There's no shortage of demandthere.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
True, true, yeah, my dreams.
They still stop at stripper.
They do.
I think I could do it, I reallydo.
And I've thought about it evenmore.
I've put together a playlist.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh really, let's, let's, let's hear a little a
couple of track listings fromthat playlist.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Okay.
So there's a song calledfinessin by well, you can get it
a couple different ways.
There's a Lil Wayne version,there's a, there's a Kevin Gates
version and then there's like aNikki Heaton version, and I
love Nikki Heaton.
I don't do you know who NikkiHeaton is.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'll have the biggest celebrity crush on Nikki.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Me too.
Me too, I think she's probablythe most perfect woman to ever
exist.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
She's pretty damn close, she's pretty he looks
like AI.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
She really does.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
She's very talented too.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
She's very talented, she's beautiful, she has two
children.
She's just constantly out inthe country breastfeeding these
children.
I follow her on Instagram andthat's pretty much all she does,
and I think she has like aleggings line as well.
She sings well a bias.
I don't know she's great, butthere's a Nikki Heaton version
of finessin.
I would say that would.

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That's on the playlist to on byTina Shea.
Of course, some deep, deep LanaDel Rey cuts, including off to
the races.
Yeah, no classic rock for me,absolutely none.
Oh, and you know what like theshowstopper is, whether they
want it or not, is going to becriminal by Fiona Apple.

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But I'll put together thatclear if you can put it in the
show notes.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Sure, absolutely, if you want.
So how long is Mary Ryan, ifyou were to perform to that
playlist, how long does thatlast?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, you know, I've got a full hour of comedy now
and so I would say maybe I couldhave a little after party show
and I would say a full hour ofmaterial and maybe I can.
Maybe I can like throw in somebeside jokes, like in between
songs, just stuff nobody wantsto hear.

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You know, just like I finishedup one song and I'm like so
everybody did you know dogscould get abortions, and then
it's on to the next song.
Do you think there's a marketfor that?
Lee Carl.
Yes, that's who are sellingtheir bodies in New York.
Okay, do you think they wouldcome to my show?

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That's, that's the market Iwant to attract.
I want them to spend theirtheir harder money on my little
special.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Absolutely.
If you combine your hour ofcomedy with your stripping act,
I think those young ladieswalking the streets in New York
selling their bodies would.
I think they would definitelyresonate with your message.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I want to strip for strippers.
Yeah that's what I want.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
You know that's the ultimate audience.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
It is the ultimate audience.
Like I really do want to be acomedian's comedian and a sex
worker sex worker, If you knowwhat I mean absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I mean it's.
It's akin to like Boosie sayingthat he's your favorite rappers
, favorite rapper.
What's your favorite rapper?
Never held an Ozy like Lucy.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Amen, yes and amen I love it.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Do you think Boosie has a problem with social media?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh, like he doesn't know how to use it.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, for sure excessive.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
He doesn't get it and that'sokay.
What do you think he?
Is?
He gen X or is he millennial?
How many?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
millennial.
He's millennial he's 40.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, well, he's an elder millennial.
And yes, yeah, it's just, it'sthe, it's the whole fallacy of
like.
I think the young people aredoing this, so in order to
appear young, I'm going to do itconstantly, you know it's.
It's the equivalent of mesaying slay, slay, slay, slay

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all the time to like fit in withGen Z, which I really do.
I try not to do that, but Ifeel like he's just upping the
frequency of his social mediaoutput to like appear hip, but
it's actually producing theopposite effects.
Boosie, you want to hire me forPR?
Go right ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well, he wears it as a badge of honor that he runs
his own social media.
Yeah, and you know he's likehe's.
I mean, here's the thing If youhave had a following, a sizable
following, prior to theinternet, you're not good.
It really is not going tomatter how you use it, because

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you've already got such aconnection with people, with
fans, followers, whatever so,like he, he changes Instagram
accounts like every monthbecause one gets deleted and
then everybody has to find himagain and he has to, you know,
start all the way over from zero.
But it's just interesting howhe chooses to just be on there

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all, all the time.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
I like it.
It's authentic.
That's a buzzword, you knowauthentic.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, what does that?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
mean, I don't know, I don't know, and I feel like
we're all like trying to find it.
You know, like I see thesepeople on social media and
they're like, oh, I'm such a hotmess, you know, and I think
they want to be applauded asauthentic.
But I think even that can befabricated.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Absolutely.
We live in a weird time becauseeverybody is so thirsty.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I am 100%.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
And there's a yeah, look at us, look what we're
doing right now.
But it's the day and age thatwe live in, and particularly in
what it is that we are trying todo.
People have to see us, peoplehave to hear us.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, whether they like it or not.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, we're going to be in their face all day, every
day, like somebody told me theother day.
They were like Lee.
I see the county line stuffevery time I open social media.
I was like that's good, thatmeans it's doing what it's
supposed to be doing.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, for real.
So tell me how.
How have things been on thepodcast?
Like, who have some of yourfavorite guests been since?
When did we do our firstepisode?
July?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, I think it's probably been five or six months
since you and I spoke on thepodcast.
Oh, wow, I've had quite anarray.
I've had quite an array.
Actually, the end of last weekthis episode is not out yet, but
I interviewed, had aconversation with Tony T, the

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producer.
He is from a calm and he isdoing very, very well producing
music in the Southern soul space, which I'm a huge fan of, so
that was cool Went to his studio.
He showed me around, weconducted the episode in his
studio, which was cool.
Um, I also did an interviewwith one of my good friends, ben

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Hardy, where we did rolereversal and he played my.
He played host and asked me abunch of questions and we talked
shit for two and a half hours.
That was very enjoyable, um, so, yeah, we've had it.
We've had a lot going on.
Are you playing shows coming upsoon?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah.
I've got a show on December 2ndin Ocean Springs at a place
called the loft.
I'm excited about that one.
I'm on there with Olivia Cersei, who's hilarious.
She's out of Pensacola, andthen Mike Strecker, who's been
in the game forever and he'sawesome.
He's from New Orleans, so Ihave that one in December.

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I feel like I have some otherones coming up, but I'm drawing
a blank.
Um, I'm definitely John.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
So when was Tuscaloosa?
I remember you told me you wereplaying in Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, tuscaloosa was, I think three weekends ago, um
at a Chinese restaurant calledMr Chins and it was awesome.
That was like.
That was like one of myfavorite shows.
The energy in there was reallygood, so, yeah, how did that
come about?
The comedy world is like small.

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Um, I have a friend in theHattiesburg scene who had done
that show before and he hadrecommended me to the show
runner over there.
So shout out, Ben Compton, uh,for recommending me.
And um yeah, it's mostly wordof mouth in the comedy world, I
feel.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
But like the, the Chinese restaurant, I've never
heard of a Chinese restauranthaving stand up comedy.
Did they do that often with, orwas it?
Did you just know somebody withthe Chinese restaurant?
And they were like hey, mary,ryan, we got a spot If you want
to come.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
So I believe the yeah , I believe the show runner,
sydney, actually works at theChinese restaurant, so I think
that she has been putting onlike a monthly comedy night.
Um, so that one was really goodfun.
Um, I've also got a Valentineshow coming up.
I don't want to like drop toomany details about where it is

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or, um, what it's going to beabout, but it's going to be like
a special Valentine show.
That's all new jokes about love, so be on the lookout for that.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
So how long have you been performing comedy
consistently?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Consistently.
Well, it's been consistent eversince I started, so I started
in June of 2022.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
So, so we're about a year and a half in year and a
half.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Are you starting to feel like you're gaining some
traction towards whatever it isyou want to ultimately achieve?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, I have like really bad, you know and this is
not unique and it does not makeme special Um, I have really
bad imposter syndrome.
So anytime that I like get ashow or anything, I'm like this
is not enough, I should bebooking something else, I should
be booking another podcast, Ishould be writing more jokes, so
, no, I actually feel like morecomedically destitute than when

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I began.
Um, but I think that's justlike.
I assume you feel the same way,like with the podcast.
Like if you get some newfollowers, that's cool for like
five minutes and then it's, it'son to the next thing, um, but
that's what makes it fun is isthe pursuit.
I never want to feel like I'vetruly arrived.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, there's a fine line between um pushing yourself
and being hard on yourself.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Agreed, agreed, and I think the way that I talk to
myself is something that Idefinitely need to improve.
But you know, in the beginningI think I had a lot of people
with their eyes on me, who hadjust known me, you know my whole
life, and they thought it waslike this novelty that I had
started doing comedy.
And you know, seeing a blondewoman get on stage and say

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disgusting things and curse iskind of like watching a dog walk
on its hind legs.
Like it's interesting.
Um, but now, as sort of mymaterials evolved, as I've
evolved, I don't think I'm likeas angry and crass as I was in
the beginning, um, and I'mtrying to like evolve the way
that my act goes and and figuresome stuff out about myself.

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Um, I think that, like the, theviewership has kind of dropped
off.
It's not as like new as it was.
So I I, in a way, I feel likeI'm in this like sophomore slump
, but I also feel like I'm justtoo little to be like detected
by any radar and I'm just kindof like struggling for no reason
.
So what is?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
what is uh?
Can you go into the impostersyndrome and what you mean by
that a little more if you don'tmind?

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Like um sure, like I see comedians, like people that
like this happened in um, inTuscaloosa we're like I'm
headlining the show and I seecomedians who go before me and
I'm like, oh my gosh, they're areal comedian.
Like they're, their stuff is sosolid, I could never do that and

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I will have like a mini heartattack like right before I go on
stage, that like I'm not even acomedian and, um, there's no
way I could do what they'redoing.
And and then I like you knowheadline the show and I do, okay
, um, but I think that you know,I I watch, you know, local
comedians, regional, regionalcomedians, people on Netflix and
I just think, wow, I will never, ever be there, um, and I'm

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working hard to be there, but Ilike I literally feel so dumb,
like sometimes, sometimes, leighCarl, I really do feel like I'm
special needs and nobody hastold me and they're just like
letting me.
When you feel like that, yeah,they're like letting me live my
dream just because um they, theythink I deserve to to feel like

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a, somebody Like that's.
I really just feel so dumb allthe time.
Do you know what it takes to bea comedian?
I mean, I'm not a comedian, I'mnot a comedian, I'm not a
comedian.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Do you know what it takes to achieve the level of
success that you want to achieve?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yes, I, I think I do know what it takes and I don't
think I have it in me right now,like just with um, just with
being a mom and being a wife andlike having a career outside of
comedy.
Um, both in my teaching andthen in the writing that I do on
the side, I don't know if I'mlike in the space where I can

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take it to where I want to takeit.
I also think I'm a selfsabotage type person and and
that if I were to get thatopportunity, I would find some
way to just really screw it up.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
So, um, I don't think that's the case.
I don't think I don't.
I don't catch that uh vibe fromyou.
I think if you got theopportunity which you will, uh,
whatever opportunity that thatis in your mind you would knock
it out of the park.
You'd knock it out of the park.
I don't think you would, um,fudge it up.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Well, thank you, Thank you Um.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
What makes you think you would royally screw it up,
and what would that opportunitylook like?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, I mean I, I don't know, I feel like I've
always put myself in likesmaller boxes.
Um then, maybe what, what Ishould be giving myself, like
I've always kind of kept itsmall and I think that's like a
protective thing.
Um, I mean I, I don't know.

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Wow, we've gotten really deep,we, carl, we've gone from the
stripper playlist to, um, reallyplumbing the depths of all of
my insecurities.
So that's absolutely.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
That's what I do best .

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm so happy to be here, and I'm just so happy
right now, um.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Hey, and we're catching it.
Uh, we're catching it on livetoo, so awesome Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Is anyone saying anything?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh, we've got one person tuning in right now and
they wave big day, shout out,big Dave, what's up, big Dave?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Never, never, give up on your dreams.
I might, um, here's the deal.
So I don't know.
I think that, like, anopportunity I would really love
is to tour and to open forsomeone that I really love and
respect.
Um, that would be like a hugeopportunity.
Um, having my own podcast andhaving that take up, take off

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with sponsorships, that would begreat.
Writing for television issomething I'm really interested
in.
Um, and then like being, youknow, being an interviewer like
you, like that's something Iwould, I would really enjoy
doing, having my own talk showor something.
Um, yeah, and just like beingable to take my hour wherever I

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want to take it.
Um, being able to perform, youknow, in any comedy club I
wanted to perform in.
Like that would be super, superawesome.
Um, but I don't know, I have alot going on right now.
Like I have a lot of irons inthe fire and I think I like it
that way.
Even when.
I don't like it that way I likeit.
That way you know what I mean.
I do I understand what you say.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And and I've been in similar circumstances in which I
couldn't work on the podcast asmuch as I wanted to and I had
other jobs.
Right now I'm just on thepodcast, but I will say, once I
made that commitment and thatsacrifice and said, okay, this

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is what I'm going after.
There was a feeling ofliberation and also I began to
see more frequent success,indicators of success, and I
think that's just the way itgoes.
You know, what we spend ourtime on is where we see results,
where we spend the majority ofour time, and the podcast is

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totally taken off.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Where do you see that going?
Where do you want to be withthe, with the show?
I want it to be the best.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I want it to be up there with, whatever you name up
, the most popular podcasts.
Um, you know I want to be thebest.
Um, you know I want to go tothe top, mary Ryan, uh, but it
takes.
I used to think that, like andobviously I'm I'm learning all

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of this that goes with producing, hosting, editing, marketing,
all these different things thatgo into getting to that point.
I'm learning all these things.
But before I got as deep intothe podcasting game as I am now,
I just thought, okay, well,I'll just get a couple of very

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famous people to come on andtalk to my redneck ass and then
I'll just it'll hit like thatand then you know, I'll just
keep doing it from there.
That's not the case, um, atleast for me now.
I'm not saying that aconglomeration and a continual
um regular appearance of higherprofile people is.
I'm not saying that's not goingto help, uh, because it will.

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But the consistency, havinghigh quality on a consistent
basis, is really what uh drivesthe needle.
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
People, people need consistency, um, and like being
able to count on when anepisode's going to drop and that
the conversation is going to bedynamic, like, yeah, it's a big
deal, but like I will see, likethis morning, I was reading, uh
, an article about, uh, thedifferent methods and strategies

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you can take to monetize apodcast.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, and of course they were throwing out all of
these different methods Abouthow many downloads a podcast has
to have to get a certain numberof ad sponsorships, or how the
pricing works.
It was very in the weeds, but Ihad a little scare, uh, a
little bout of imposter syndrome, when I see you know, such and

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such podcasts has 10 milliondownloads, or I got this, the 10
million downloads, and I'm likeGod damn, 10 million, I fucking
like, like to your point.
You know I'm not going to beable to like to your point.
You're saying you're sittingthere watching, you're watching
that comedian, and you're like Ican't do that.
Same type of shit happens whenI start looking at numbers like

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that.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's hard but it's.
It's such a I mean, I don'tknow, not to get all woo woo,
but it really is a gift to behungry, to be hungry for
something.
Um.
So you know, if that means thatthere's a little bit of
imposter syndrome on the side orthere's a little bit of self

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doubt, like that's just part ofit, and I also have that, no
matter what I do, you know, ifI'm, if I'm sitting on my ass
not chasing a dream, I'm goingto feel like garbage.
And then if I'm off my asschasing that dream, I might feel
like garbage, but at least I'mmoving forward, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So, yes, I have a.
Uh, I have a problem withprojecting supreme confidence,
but I'm having very shittyinternal self confidence.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
They less brother, Hi get it.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's like damn.
How does it work like that?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that, like you candivorce yourself from so so much
of how you feel inside if youjust, you know, project that
confidence.
And it's easy, like any, anyold sociopath can do it.
You just stand with your feetapart and your chest wide open,
you put your hands on your hipsand you smile and all of a
sudden you know you're, you'reat the center of energy in the

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room.
It's not that hard and it cancertainly be kept up for like
short spurts of time, you know.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I have a weird obsession with noticing people's
posture and how they do carrythemselves, and I do understand
the importance of my grandmothertelling me to sit up at the
dinner table, sit up in thechurch for you, stand up, put
your chest out.
I understand what all thatmeans now, more so now because I

(28:42):
understand, like what you'resaying how to carry a room, how
to be the center of the room andlet people know that you are,
that you want to be the centerof the room, and you do all that
through body language and theway you carry yourself.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah, and it's not that hard.
I say that as I'm likeliterally sitting on the floor
like a gremlin drinking mycoffee through a straw.
But you know, when the timecomes, when the time comes to
really perform, lee Carl, I'mthere, I'm there, no doubt, no
doubt, and it's you know, Iwould say you for sure.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'll throw myself in there on this for a little bit.
Some people have a natural giftof gab, if you will, or a
natural charisma, you know, andit it's like some people have.
Some people are more, I think,more athletically gifted by God
than others.
Some people have to try reallyhard, mary Rhine, to be

(29:41):
charismatic and put a smile ontheir face and become the center
of the room.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, hitler had to really work for it, and I mean
it yeah, I think.
So I think he was like a.
He failed at a lot of thingsbefore he became the Beyonce of
dictators.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Trump.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Trump understands it, trump understands it.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He's fantastic.
He needs a comedy special.
He is a comedian, he is afucking comedian.
No, he, he for sure is yeah,and one of my favorite gingers.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Definitely, Absolutely he.
And he's so good off the cuffLike he's.
He's best when he's off script.
Yeah, he's a crap.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, he's a crowd working and that's something
that I'm like trying to work onis being better at being off the
cuff, because sometimes someonein the crowd will hit me with a
comment and I'm just like Ididn't.
I didn't pack the emotionalenergy to handle your comment, I
wasn't planning on this.
Can we just skip it?

(30:50):
And you can't.
You have to invite the energyin and like respond and really
pick up on, like what's going tomake that person laugh, what's
going to make the people aroundthem laugh?
But anyway, how's Sue Ellen?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
She is hoping and wishing that I would come see
her more.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, you need to.
You need to go see your mom andyou need to meet a nice girl on
hinge and take her to see yourmom.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
You know what I've learned throughout my dating
years Mary-Rynne Don't take thegirl home too early.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Amen.
Can I guess why, please May.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
I feel like Sue Ellen .
Just based on my interactionswith her on Facebook, I feel
like she is too good of a person.
I feel like she has too muchlove in her heart and she will
like accept this person becauseit's someone you love, so she's
going to love them too, and herlove is going to create this
like false image that that's theperson for you, when maybe it's

(31:56):
not.
It's just an overflow of herlove that she's always going to
have because she's such a goodperson.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
You hit the nail right on the head.
You hit the nail right on thehead so that that definitely is
a component and a contributingfactor in why I said it's.
It's not a great idea for me totake the girl home too early
because, being my mother's babyboy, she is very intrigued by

(32:25):
who I find intriguing, and soshe's like chomping at the bit
to see who it is, what she do,where's she from?
You know all the things themama's going to ask, but then,
to your point, she's going tofall in love as soon as she sees
the girl and she's just goingto pour herself all over her.
All her love and love Fall overher, all her love.

(32:47):
And you know that's just a itshould be.
I should be hesitant to putmyself in that situation.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Not everyone deserves your mother's love.
No, absolutely not and liketell me, what is it like being
the baby boy?
I want to be the baby boy.
What?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
is that Phenomenal?
It's phenomenal.
And I was the baby boy on bothsides, from a grandparent
standpoint, for a long time,until until the great grandkids
came.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I got showered with love what can I say?
But I'll tell you what it was ablessing.
I'd much rather have more, morethan enough love than none at
all.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
For sure, for sure.
Look, my parents are the sameway, like they're so nice and
you bring someone home andthey're just like why don't you
come on vacation with us?
Why don't you, you know, hangout with us and have dinner with
us?
Because my parents wanted theirkids to like, want to bring
people over, and so they werejust so and they're also just
good people, so they were sokind, and then we'd all get

(33:54):
enmeshed really quickly and noteveryone deserves to see how
cool your parents are, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
So at what point did you include your now husband in
a group text with your family?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh, he's still not in a group text with my family.
He doesn't want to be, and Idon't want to subject him to
that because it is a lot.
So how I grew up was likeenmeshed, not Italian, but
Italian, culturally, alwaystalking, always interacting.
And there are five of us I'mthe oldest of five and so we

(34:28):
have a big group chat.
He is not in that group chat.
He's been invited and he'srespectfully declined, so he's
like the boundary king, you know, he's like I'm not going to
know, I'm good and I don't wantto be in on all the inside jokes
, and so we just sometimes we'llput him in adjacent chats when
he needs to know information.
But no, he's still not in agroup chat.

(34:50):
Now, are he and my dad littlebesties who never stop talking?
Yes, you know, are he and mymom super tight?
Yes, is he tight with all mysiblings?
Absolutely, but the familyforever group chat, absolutely.
He's not getting in there.
He doesn't need to be in there,because that's where all of our
like deep cut inside jokes are.
And we have deep like I don'tknow if you have this, but there

(35:12):
are five kids in my family.
I'm the oldest.
We have deep family lore that,like not everyone needs to know
about, you know deep.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Best kept in, best kept in house.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Best kept in house.
Yeah, it's the KFC seasoningrecipe of inside jokes.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
So I don't, I don't blame him there, I don't blame
him there.
I mean, you know, it could bedifferent if, like, let's say,
you were an only child, maybetwo children.
Yeah, y'all got five.
That's seven people already,like that's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It's a lot going on and it's a lot of you know.
So I'm kind of a ham, I wouldsay.
And then my next brother he's aham.
And then my next sister, she'sjust kind of like coming into
herself.
She's 21.
And she's like hilarious now.
And then the youngest two aretwins.
And then there's my mom inthere.

(36:09):
She's sending, you know, theovon, podcast recommendations to
all of us, and then like adevotion the next minute, you
know.
And then an update on Brooks'ssoccer game the next minute, and
then like an update on all theWi Fi passwords the next minute,
you know.
so it's a lot of like whiplashin the group chat and I don't
want to put sweet little Andrewinto into all of that.

(36:32):
Like he, he grew up in a verynormal family.
I don't even think they have agroup chat.
They have androids.
His parents have androids.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Was that a red flag?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yes, now, they're lovely people, my in-laws.
I really, really lucked out.
They are incredible people, butI'm not going to gloss over it,
they have androids.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, you can't gloss over that.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
That's a problem, but it's okay.
I love them and I accept them.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Why do you think we, in your opinion, view green,
message people the way we do?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Because they're inferior.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say because webelieve that the Apple product
is that much more superior.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
It is.
It is Okay Because mymother-in-law you know she'll
send me pictures of Meadow whenthey take Meadow for the weekend
and they're the grainiest,worst pictures I've ever seen in
my life because of that Androidcamera Like it's an inferior
product for inferior people.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
So for you, is it just the camera, or are there
other features that you takeissue with?

Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't even know, I won't even touch an Android.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
to be honest, I can't speak to it.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah, I don't even know what to be mad at, but I am
.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
I'm just like ugh when somebody sends me a green
message.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Oh, so have any hinge .
Ladies sent you a green message.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
No.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
No, they haven't.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Count that as a blessing.
Lee Carl, that's good.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
And I'm with you.
I think hinge is the most legit.
Here's the thing you can makethem all as legit as you want to
.
Yeah, hinge just has the bestfeatures on their free version.
They have the best, the highesteffectiveness in the way of

(38:31):
matching people with that youwould actually want to see and
associate with.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I agree, I agree.
Now I can't really speak tohinge because, excuse me, I was
literally on there five minutes.
I see, andrew, you know westart talking, we go on a date,
I delete hinge.
So you know, I mean I really ama poster child for it's the app
that's meant to be deleted.

(38:59):
But I did know him for reallife, you know.
So there is that.
But yeah, I think hinge, justthe way the interface is set up,
from what I can remember itlike, allows you to get to know
a person a little bit more likeit does ask some questions about
values and preferences, whereasTinder is just like.

(39:21):
here's my cleavage do what youwant with it, which is also a
valid way to live your life, butI did enjoy hinge.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Lots of bots on Tinder and bumbles.
Okay, but what I've found is,if you're gonna, if you're gonna
use bumble, you need to.
You need to get the plan abovethe free version.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Preach and look, at least you're willing to pay.
So like, okay, you're gonnatake a girl from hinge or bumble
on a date.
What is the move?
What is the move?
Say she's in the area, what areyou doing?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well, every situation is different.
I've done this multiple times.
It depends on where they are.
But I mean, I just go meet upfor happy hour or something you
know, something very casual andfriendly, nothing too much, you
know.
I don't want to come off asbeing too zealous over zealous

(40:23):
Respect.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Respect, planning a whole first date and like
putting that sort of pressure onit, you know of like we're
gonna go do this and then we'regonna go on a picnic and we're
gonna go on a hike.
I'm already wanting to cancel.
No, thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, I mean generally, generally speaking
first dates.
Whether they initiate online ornot, I try to keep them as
casual and friendly as possible.
Yeah with very, very lowexpectations for anything that
comes after.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
For sure.
I think that's smart.
Think a happy hour is the move.
What is the?
What is the worst first dateyou've ever been?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
on.
The worst first date I've everbeen on actually did originate
from Tinder in New Orleans, andthe young lady was Russian.
And do you know who ChapelHeart is?
I do, I do yeah they wererandomly playing at this bar in

(41:26):
New Orleans that me and thisRussian girl went on this date.
She's an elementary teacher.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
And we got in an argument.
I don't even remember aboutwhat it was, but she ended up
walking out.
She stormed out on me, she toldme I was a dumbass American and
she said I'm leaving, I'm donewith you.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
And I said everybody needs to hear that at least once
in their life.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
I said let the door hit you where the good Lord
splits you.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Amen, that's bad, that's real bad.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
It's an experience.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I would say so, I'm trying to.
You glossed over the argument.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
And.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I think it was.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I think it was basically I had a little too
much to drink and she was beingtoo romantic about socialism.
I mean, she would know shewould, and I don't think I was.

(42:31):
I think I was very polite onceit got to that point.
I love that you know itprobably was not meant to be
Mary Ryan.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
No, I'm gonna say it wasn't.
When you know.
You know that kind of goes forlove and spite, like there are
just certain people that you'relike, all right, this is going
to be a lifelong relationship ofdisdain, we're never going to
like each other, and that sortof clarity is beautiful.
Like I don't think it should bediscounted when you know you

(43:06):
don't like somebody.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes, that happens to me very often.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's good, that's good.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I mean, I am a very much a people person and you
know I smile and people's faceand stuff and I'm gonna be nice,
but when it comes down toreally really liking a human
being, there aren't very many ofthose that I have.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
I feel that Just being honest.
I like.
A lot of people like if this isbad.
But if you are funny, if youhave a sense of humor, if you
have that gift of gab, you canget away with a lot.
For me, you know, I think asense of humor is a virtue in a

(43:52):
way.
So you can be committing taxfraud, but if you have a funny
bit about you know whateverabout tax fraud, I will like you
.
So I really do.
I sort of privilege funnypeople in my life.
I think I don't have a lot ofpeople that I just don't like,

(44:18):
but I don't interact with a lotof people.
My circle's pretty small.
It's the Family Forever Groupchat.
It's my in-laws with theirandroids which is really their
only flaw their lovely people.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
It could be way worse .

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It could be way worse , like they are never up in my
business.
They came to my show in Dallas,which is super nice.
They did not have to do that.
They're lovely, like they trulyare the best, except for the
huge android problem and theycould have razors.
They could.
I miss the razor.

(44:54):
I think I missed the era of therazor.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
What were we?
Probably 12, something likethat, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah 2005.
Yes, and just illegallydownloading Cyclone as a
ringtone so that every time youraunt called you she moves her
body like a cyclone.
That was nice.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Babybatch.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yes, yes.
Or what about Paralyzed byFinger 11?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I don't know that one that sounds like some white
people shit.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
It is, but you've never been a divorced dad.
I'm not paralyzed.
You've never heard this.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that song, I know that song
.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Great ringtone.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I used to play a motorcycle video game it was a
West Coast choppers video gameand it was like that song on
replay.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh, take me there.
That's where I want to be.
I used to play Guitar Hero whenI was that age and man, it was
Mississippi Queen.
That was like the only song Icould play on there.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's a really fun video game.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Guitar Hero Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
It's very addictive.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
It's very addictive, and when I would play Rock Band
with my friends, they'd be likewho's going to be the singer?
And I'd be like I couldn't, Icouldn't do it, no, no, don't
make me sing.
And then like I would get upthere and sing Evanescence or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Do you follow any people on comedians, like
comedians on social media, thatare really good at creating
their own skits and acting themout themselves?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yes, yes, I do.
I just opened for a guy calledDJ Redd.
Do you know who that is?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
So he's really big in the Cajun community.
People love him, like they.
He has like a million and ahalf followers on Facebook and I
was opening for him in GonzalezLouisiana.
He does these like Cajunparodies and skits and songs and
stuff and I mean this was thefirst time that I've been around
a comedian where, like, I'veseen them interact with true

(47:16):
fans and it was freaky it was.
I mean, there were women thatwere so obsessed with him they
were asking if he would take offhis shirt that he was wearing
so they could purchase his shirtthat he was wearing, which was
insane to me.
But he does a really good job.
He does a stand up show butit's also kind of a variety show

(47:38):
.
He does his songs, he does someprop comedy.
It's really out of the box andhe's found a way to bring what
he's doing in his parodies ontothe stage in a really
interesting way.
So he was one that just kind ofin real life.
I was amazed by.
I really like that Serena girl.

(47:58):
I don't know if she does standup, but she does great skits of
just like this really rude girlyou've seen or she does
different sort of characterarchetypes of like young women
living in New York.
She's very funny to me.
I love Andy, andy Marie.
She's Appalachian and do youknow who I'm talking about?

(48:20):
She's real country Kind of off.
Oh, I love her, I'm obsessedwith her, andy Marie on.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah, that sounds like West Virginia Country goth.
That's what I think of WestVirginia.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yeah, yeah, and she is.
She's fantastic.
She does these characters whereshe puts on that filter that
makes you ugly and she does likethe old lady in your church who
also works with crystals, and Imean, she's just off, she's
spot on.
I love her.
She is like unhinged.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes, I do, and I thought about creating my own
skit of when I'm stoned and theyasked me to say the blessing at
Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Do it.
Do it before their.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, I thought about it.
I haven't tried, but it's an.
It's an intriguing.
It's an intriguing little task.
Corporate Natalie, she's a goodone.
I follow her on Instagram.
Yeah, she's hilarious.
There's a guy is a black guynamed killer K or killer cam,

(49:25):
something like that.
He's a large, light skinbrother.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
He's hilarious.
I think he might be fromGeorgia or Florida or somewhere,
but his stuff's very relatable.
He's from somewhere in thesouth.
Yeah, there are.
There are a multitude ofdifferent ones that I like.
Have you thought about doingany of that yourself?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yes, yes, and I've done a few.
I did this thing and I'm goingto do it again this year.
We're every day in December uptill Christmas I post a reel and
I've archived a lot of thembecause it's hard for me to look
at my own work, but I've done acouple little characters here
and there, and then you know theboutique that I do pictures and

(50:08):
stuff for.
I I will do like littlecharacters, but yeah, I have
several.
I've always had this characterin my back pocket, named Rosalyn
Peters, who is this journalistfrom the 1940s who's like this
hyper sexual lesbian, who'snever not smoking a cigarette,
and that's one that I've I'vealways enjoyed doing when I

(50:31):
started vaping when I was like18.
That is when Rosalyn came to me.
Oh, are you there?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Are you still?
Are you still vaping?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
No, no, no, no.
I quit vaping because of abladder condition that I have,
and so, thankfully, I'm freefrom the chains of vapes.
What about you?
No, I'm not vaping.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
However, I did smoke an entire pack of cigarettes
this past weekend.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
But you know that's okay spontaneously.
That's fine.
Were you drunk or just sad?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I was drunk pretty much two days in a
row and stayed up until sunriseon both days.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
So that's great.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
It was fitting for me to smoke cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I love a cigarette.
I love them.
I haven't had one since like2017.
That's when I quit, but I'dthink about them every day, like
an ex lover.
I mean, I just miss them somuch and maybe I'll have one.
Maybe I'll have one, you know,a good one cigarette a year or

(51:42):
something.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
What's your?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
cigarette of choice.
Oh, this is hard.
Okay, so I started.
The first cigarette I eversmoked was a roll your own
American spirit that my gothfriend rolled up for me our
freshman year of college.
And so like that is like Ithink, um, britney, something

(52:07):
she has she has a joke about.
Like your first drink beingever clear is like losing your
virginity to a traffic cone,like I feel like your first
cigarette being a roll your ownAmerican spirit is sort of akin
to that comparison.
But I do love American spirits.
The light blue ones are verygood.
Marlboro 27 was always a really, really great one for me.

(52:29):
I've been known, I've beenknown to crush a camel red and
that's just.
It is what it is.
Menthol's get out of my faceblues.
Get out of my face silvers.
Away from me, satan.
I'm not doing it.
But I like the warmer, thewarmer cigarettes.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I like menthol, newports and Marlboro lights and
Marlboro reds.
Also like camels, I'll prettymuch smoke anything.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Sure, sure, no, no, no, I'm not picky if I've had,
like a couple of you know,cranberry vodka or whatever I do
like so what would you say?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Parliament's good to what would you say?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
the persona of a Virginia slim smoker is oh, now
that is a lady and I say ladywho has seen some shit, right, I
mean that's.
That's a lady who has like acollection of furbies in mint

(53:42):
condition in her dilapidatedtrailer, right.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I'd say if they're 100s, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Yes, yes, if they're 100s.
That's a lady who only listensto the song Delta Dawn.
That's the only song she everwants to hear, and that's okay.
Tanya Tucker, tanya.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Tucker sounds like she smoked a couple of Virginia
slims herself.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Respect.
Respect to Tanya Tucker.
Yeah, that's what I would say.
The persona of a Virginia slimsmoker is like.
That's a lady who sells likelizards in the Walmart parking
lot which, speaking of, I was ata love stop, go ahead.
Give me the love story.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Okay, sorry, give me the love story.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Sure, I was at a love truck stop the other day
picking up my daughter which isa very like single mom move to
like do the the changeover at alove truck stop.
But I was just getting her frommy in-laws we're meeting
halfway and there was this girlsorority girl looking and she
was standing in the truck stopparking lot with a chameleon on

(55:05):
her shoulder and I just thoughtthat was interesting, because
normally little white girls havelike a Pomeranian or something,
but this girl had a chameleonand I was like that is a lot
lizard Like that is the onlytime I'm going to see an actual
lizard at a truck stop and Ithought that was impressive and
I think more white women shouldget chameleons.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Well, they definitely need to get something besides
golden doodles.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
We have to.
This is a, this is an epidemic,mary Rhine, and it has become
insanely out of control andunhealthy for these, these women
, to anthropomorphize these dogsand treat them better than many
of the humans in their lives.
Preach.

(55:56):
What is the root?
What is the root calls in youropinion?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Oh, I mean okay.
So let's take it back to thelast time I was on the show and
I posed the question do dogshave souls?
And we kind of turned that overa couple of times, and I take
the strong stance that dogs donot have souls, that we
anthropomorphize them and weproject our own feelings and
emotions onto literal animals,which I think is a pretty human

(56:22):
impulse to impose meaning ontonon sentient objects.
Right?
Is an animal sentient?
Yes.
Does it have a soul?
No.
So I think we do that and that'sa normal human thing to do, I
think, because third wavefeminism has has lied to us and

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has told us that women can haveit all and that you can wait to
have kids and that you shouldstuff down that maternal impulse
and pour everything into yourcareer and be a boss, babe, and
climb the corporate ladder andpursue your dreams.
And I don't need a man, I don'tneed a man.
I think that entire narrativehas caused us to take all of our
like, caregiving instincts andplace them onto dogs.

(57:13):
I do, and again, I'm speakingvery generally here.
This is just like a trend thatI'm sort of seeing and I have
people I have friends that lovetheir dogs and they treat their
dogs like humans and whitepeople.
They will kiss their dog on themouth, you know, but then
forget to pick up their ownchild from daycare and I think

(57:35):
it's an issue.
I'll come right out and say itI love dogs.
I think dogs are cute.
I'm not advocating for animalabuse, but I'll shoot a dog, I
will.
I'll shoot a dog If the dog is,you know miserable or dangerous
or rabid or whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
I'm not just going to shoot a dog for sport, but I'll
shoot a dog if he's outside ofmy window barking and won't shut
up.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
I will hunt a dog down, just no, I will not.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I will not.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
But a dog's a dog.
A dog doesn't have a soul.
No matter how much you see ofyourself in that golden doodle's
eyes, that's just a reflectionof you.
That's not a real soul in there.
Do I think the birth rate inthis country?
Needs to go up.
Absolutely, absolutely, stopbreastfeeding your Pomeranian.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Have a baby, grow up the birth rate thing is yeah,
the birth rate thing isdisturbing actually.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I did it.
He was going to wipe our asswhen we're old Hopefully robots.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Doesn't look like anybody.
Yeah, yeah, the birth ratething is they'll definitely be
able to wipe.
They'll definitely be able towipe asses by then.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
I hope so.
They've already got sex workerrobots, now we just need elder
care robots.
I'd say that's a more desperateneed, if we're being honest.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I think our men and our women are growing farther
apart.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I do too, I do too, and I think that go on.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I think that is obviously contributing to the
birth rate, but I think that'salso the declining birth rate,
but I also think that it's acontributing factor or a symptom
of, or I think that the doganthropomorphizing is a symptom

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of the men and the women growingfarther apart.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
I agree, I completely agree.
And I think you know the powersthat be whoever they are I
don't necessarily think they are, you know, elite, lizard people
or anything the powers that beknow that the people need to be
divided.
You know that's why they dividepoor whites and poor black
people, right.

(01:00:03):
And I think that if you cancreate division in the home,
that's even more powerful.
If you can create thedistraction of division in the
home and keep the men and thewomen sort of at odds with one
another at all times, there's notime to rise up and like
overthrow.
You know the overlords.
And I think there's a fine linebetween like humor that

(01:00:26):
criticizes men and humor thatcriticizes women.
I do it all the time in my set.
There's a fine line betweenthat and like general true
vitriol toward the opposite sex,which I think you know.
You've got incels on one endthat are like women aren't.
You know women aren't shit andthey don't listen and they're
terrible and they're all horse.

(01:00:47):
There's that.
And then there's women on theother side being like, yeah,
I'll just buy a vibrator andnever talk to a man ever, and I
think both of those ideologiesare very dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
They're dangerous.
They're also evidence of asevere lack of awareness,
because if I, if I, hate womenI'm speaking generally here but
if, if me, if I hate women, inmost cases it's going to be
because I've had negativeexperiences with women.
That doesn't mean that allwomen are just like the women

(01:01:27):
I've encountered, and in mostcases it's probably my fault
that I've had negativeexperiences with women.
And so, as opposed to justsaying, looking in the mirror
and saying, well, maybe it's me,then it's just.
Every woman in the world isterrible.
Yes, every man.
You know same same thing forwomen when they hate men.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, every dude is not your dad.
Okay, Every woman is is notyour mom.
And I think that we haveunrealistic expectations of one
another.
Like I don't hold my husband tothe same emotional standard
that I hold, say, my best friend, Like he's just going to lack,
not to say he's not emotionallyintelligent he is, but his

(01:02:11):
ability to emotionally multitaskis not as attuned as mine is
and I believe that's biological.
You know, like all these womenwho are like my husband, my best
friend, my husband's my bestfriend, why don't you have like
a girl best friend?
You should have a girl bestfriend.
Love my husband to death, tellhim everything.

(01:02:31):
The emotional intimacy is there.
But at the same time, if I'mpissed because of something that
happened at Hot Works today,I'm probably going to call my
best friend about it.
You know, if I'm.
I just I don't, I don'tunderstand why and I used to do

(01:02:53):
this when I was younger andsingle and dating like I would
want a man to have the same sortof emotional ability to do the
mental gymnastics that that Ihad, and that's not fair, you
know, that's not fair.
Like I don't think my husbanddemands like a man's logic for

(01:03:16):
me, you know, I don't.
I don't think he wants me to bea dude, so I don't know, I feel
like I sound like a pig me alot of men, well, a lot of men,
a lot of men do want their wifeor their significant other to be
a dude.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
They do want them to love football.
They do want them to like togrill out, and it's weird.
It's weird when you know.
I mean, I wouldn't want a womanto want me to go dress shopping
, Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Exactly, exactly.
But I think people are enmeshedand people have an ancient
attachment style where they havethis false narrative that like
we have to do everythingtogether and we have to like all
the same things and like to me,what's much more beautiful and
much more like emotionally richis to come together at the end
of the day and talk about whatwe did and then have like a
moment where we can do somethingwe both enjoy.

(01:04:13):
But I don't need my husband togo everywhere with me.
He doesn't need me to goeverywhere with him.
Like again, yeah, I don't, Idon't like football or operating
a grill and I don't think heexpects Are y'all?
Are y'all all day, every daytextures, what no?

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
No, I mean like if no , no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
We have full time jobs like no and we've never
been.
I mean impossible, it'simpossible.
No, I don't need to go to thegym.
I don't need to go to the gym.
I don't need to go to the gym,it's impossible.
No, I don't need him to text meall day.
He did just text me and askwhere I got the Tupperware that
he brought to his work party.

(01:04:58):
So I mean he does like, sexedme, stuff like that in the
middle of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
You know where'd you get the Tupperware?
Well, that means he's getting.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
He's getting compliments on the Tupperware.
I know I'm actually I've gotlike I'm excited about that For
sure, and Sam's Club I got aSam's.
Club.
It's five nesting bowls in abeautiful earth tone.
It was.
It was a great buy 1999 atSam's.
But yeah, I meaninformationally.
If we see a funny meme or likesome one of our friends on

(01:05:29):
Facebook has done something youknow particularly embarrassing
or shameful like, we'llscreenshot that and send it to
each other.
But no, no, we don't text allday, every day.
That's.
That's insane, don't you agree?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I have found that it's absolutely.
I think it's insane, absolutely.
I'm much more of just like yousaid, come to get, come together
at the end of the day, and Ithink it's much more rich
because you both have theexperiences to share with the
other at the end of the day, asopposed to have already told
them every waking move thatyou've made throughout the day.

(01:06:08):
I've found, dating in dating,that emotional immaturity and
basically emotional illiteracyis rampant and it can be
difficult to it can be difficultto discern and tell myself that

(01:06:31):
I'm emotionally mature when,when I believe I make an
emotional, emotionally maturedecision, the woman flies off
the handle and call you know theword that I get have gotten a
lot as inconsiderate when reallyand truly I think it's just a

(01:06:55):
decision that they may notnecessarily agree with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
So can you give me an example and let me speak for
all.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yes, absolutely.
I'm up front with a woman andtell her I do not want to date
her but would willingly continuea casual relationship with her,
basically just making myintentions known which is

(01:07:27):
admirable, that is admirable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Don't string her along.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Right.
What she say depends on thewoman, but I have had not all
women respond in a negative way,but I have had a higher amount
than not respond in ways that Ibelieve are emotionally immature

(01:07:52):
.
So you know, cut look, forexample, call me inconsiderate
or call me.
Some have called me a whore,you know, which is fine.
I mean I have been throughoutmy life.
At times, I think I think it'simportant to whore around
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Look a ho phase, I would argue, is a fundamental
part of growing up.
Now I can understand that.
Now, being a woman on the otherside of that, if I was told I
don't want to date you but Iwant to continue a casual
relationship, to me that's likeyou're offering me, like the

(01:08:35):
opportunity to audit a collegecourse with the full knowledge
that I will not receive anycredit for said course.
So if you really love learning,you know, if you really love
just sleeping with Lee Carl likethat might be a great
opportunity for me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Allow me to clarify so when.
I say casual, I don't meanexclusively a sexual
relationship.
I mean I'm not going to yourfamily Christmas there it is
Getting you anything forbirthday.
You know it's not a formalrelationship, we are not
exclusive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Right and that was fun to me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
But I still cook supper.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Okay, well, that's good, yes, no, and that still
doesn't sound fun to me.
But again, you know, and that'sjust me.
But you know the fact thatyou're being forthright about
that like I think that's great,because a lot of people would
avoid that question altogether.
So I don't think that beingforthright about your intentions

(01:09:44):
is inconsiderate.
Now let me ask you this Are youever planning to have a family,
to marry a lady and, you know,do something about the birth
rate.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Absolutely.
I want to have like five kids.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Sure yeah, big old family group chat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Absolutely.
I want to have a bunch of kids.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Sure, so who?
Is with one woman with onewoman, and that's a flex.
So so, who is this woman?
Who is she?
What does she like?
How would you know?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Very independent, very smart, very funny,
obviously beautiful, great senseof humor.
But, above more than anythingelse, she does not need my dumb
ass.
She wants me, she enjoys beingaround me, but if she doesn't
have me, she's going to be justfine.
I find that quality to be oneof the most attractive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yeah, yeah, neatiness on both ends is just such a
boner killer.
Yeah, I agree, I agree, okay.
Well, it remains to be seen ifthis woman is on hinge.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Oh, I'm searching, I mean.
I may even I may even get thepay plan for 30 days, mary Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Probably.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
There are sacrifices that we have to make to find our
soulmate, and if it's paying2099 for a month for hinge just
so that I can find her, look,count me in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Yeah, I agree, I totally agree, you know, and if
all else fails, get out yourcrystals and just manifest her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Well, you know, I've known to, I've been known to.
What is the book called the,the present or the, where you do
manifest it's like this oh yeah, there's a lot of them where
you do manifest the gift thepresent, something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah, the secret.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
The secret, that's it .

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
What is the secret?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Girl, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
What hinge?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
No, not manifesting manifesting.
I think that is the most youknow.
So symptomatic of like maincharacter syndrome.
Like, as much as we want tobelieve it, we are not the main
character in this drama of life.
But I don't know what thesecret is.

(01:12:44):
I think I just like fell intowhat I had.
I did pray about it before, butI don't think I manifested it
and do any spellwork or anything.
But honestly, I had to work onmyself a lot, like I had to go
to therapy.
I was a terrible girlfriend inmy early 20s.

(01:13:04):
I was super clingy and justneedy and emotional and I had to
do a lot of work on myself anddo a lot of like surrendering to
a higher power before I think Iwas ready to like be in a
relationship, be in a healthyrelationship with someone else.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I think many people don't recognize how much work is
required to do it right, yeah,and to give the other person and
yourself the highest likelihoodof fulfilling the potential of
the relationship.
Yeah, it's a job, you know.
It is easier if you have agenuine connection with a person

(01:13:47):
.
Now, I'm sure many of thoselistening are been in situations
where they forced relationshipsand if there's a forced, if
you're forcing a connection oryou're trying to force chemistry
, you need to reassess from thejob.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
It'll never work and if they don't smell right, if
you get up in that little chestarea, this little nest area
right here, and you start tosmell onions, just quit, just
quit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
That's not the one that's nasty?
Yeah, that's or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
if the smell is not right, go away, because you
cannot outwit pheromones Likeyou simply cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
No, no, this is as natural as it comes.
Like I've noticed, sometimespregnant women have this glow
about them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Okay pheromones.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
It's the pheromones, yeah it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
No, I did not feel that way when I was pregnant,
but some people like beingpregnant, not me, not me would
not recommend, but some peoplelike it, so good for them.
But yeah, pheromones you can't.
And mine changed like perfumeafter I had the baby perfume
doesn't smell the same on me.
I'm actually on the hunt for,like my new signature scent

(01:15:01):
right now, because what used tosmell good on me doesn't smell
good anymore and it irritates me.
But yeah, how do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
this.
How do I know this Because?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I'm not sure.
How do I know this?

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Because, objectively.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I used to get compliments constantly on my
perfume, like constantly.
When I was in college.
My best guy friend and I thisis the smartest thing I've ever
done, truly, and that's sadbecause this isn't that smart.
But when I was in college, mybest guy friend and I we went to
this to the mall, and we triedon different colognes and

(01:15:39):
perfumes and we got all up ineach other's necks and we
smelled everything and he pickedfor me and I picked for him.
And that was so smart to havesomeone of the opposite sex
sniffing you and saying thissmells good, this doesn't smell
good, and for me it was Dior.
That's what smelled really goodon me.
I think it was some sort of YSLfor him, I can't remember and I

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would get complimentsconstantly.
I would go home and be sittingin a blanket and then my sister
would tell me that she wouldtake the blanket and sleep with
it.
That smelled that good and Ijust stopped getting compliments
, even though I didn't changeanything.
It was after I had the baby.
It just didn't smell the same,which is really sad because I
had worn that for like I don'tknow seven years and it just

(01:16:25):
didn't work anymore.
So I'm currently on the huntfor my signature scent again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Do you have any front runners at this point?

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
No, I don't, I don't.
In fact, this Friday we'regoing to be in New Orleans for
the two lane game and we'reactually going to the Louis
Vuitton store to smell perfumed,because my husband wears Louis
Vuitton.
It smells amazing on him.
He's had the bottle for fiveyears.

(01:16:55):
I think his ex-girlfriend gaveit to him honestly and it smells
so good so I'm like maybe LouisVuitton is the answer.
Who?
knows, but no, I don't have anyfront runners.
Everything smells jank and Idon't trust my own nose.
I need him to come smell withme.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Do you have a?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
signature scent.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Yes, but I don't have to have cologne to have it.
I just came out smelling good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
That's crazy.
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
I wear lotion, sometimes like on my neck, but I
don't wear cologne per se.
I rely on the soap anddeodorant and lotion the combo
of those three things to producethe signature.
Lee Carlton Smith's mail.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
And that's beautiful.
And that's good for you and Ithink you know gotta have soap,
gotta have deodorant.
I think the lotion is a niceextra for a man.
I think that's.
That's a little land gap and Ilike that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
I get.
I get ashy and dry.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
So I have to.
I have to apply during thewintertime.
Now, in the summertime, forobvious reasons, with all the
humidity and I'm outside all thetime, I don't have a problem
with dry skin.
Yeah, during the wintertime Ihave to.
I have to apply and reapply soI can stay healthy and glowing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Amen, amen.
Men's hygiene Such a funnything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Many of us do not have it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
I've noticed, so I've noticed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
It's so sad Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I've never dated a man who wasn't clean, because
right, that's a non negotiable.
That's a non negotiable.
You can be a little crazy,that's fine, but you got to be
using Irish spring regularly.

(01:19:04):
You can't stink, you can't, youcertainly cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
I mean even in the morning, like the like the whole
breath thing, like that's atough thing for anybody, but
Even still, even then, if I wakeup and I can, you know, just
smell just even a hint of ass,breath might not work out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
That's enough for me to take a valve of celibacy.
I'll tell you that.
I'll tell you that we're done.
We're done, I can't do it.
Yeah, hygiene is anon-negotiable.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I mean, that's got to you know, I mean, I'm not going
to say that, but you know, oneof the worst, one of the worst
situations is when a female hasnot tended to herself downstairs
.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Oh, we're going to talk about it, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Absolutely, we're going to talk about it.
I mean, it's a.
That's one of the mostunfortunate and distinct smells
that exist.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Even hygiene is tough and you know, I only know
myself, right, I've never beeninvited downstairs on another
lady.
So you know, I only know me.
It's a.
It's a delicate, delicate dance, I imagine, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Yeah, I wonder what's going on there?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Scented soap.
It's a pH, ph imbalance.
Some people they just get too.
They put too many scents downthere and you know the vagina is
a self-regulating organ.
So really you just need to keepit clean, but you don't need
all the bells and whistles.
Is what I understand.

(01:21:06):
You know it's a pH thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yes, I have, it's all the diet.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Right, it's diet, it's hydration, it's you know,
your clothes.
It's a lot of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, I've not run into it very often.
However, there was one timewhen I was involved with the
lady sexually and in true lecarform.
I told her that her vagina hada smell.
I was very.

(01:21:47):
I was like this is not a reasonfor me to ghost you.
You know, I feel that it's myresponsibility to tell you
what's going on and give you anopportunity to fix it.
I didn't say it just like that,but that's that's how my
thought process.
And so she took thatinformation in and went back to

(01:22:10):
her hygiene routine.
And so the next time I'm likehell, yeah, it's going to be all
fixed now.
No, it was worse.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
See, and that could just be a pheromone thing, can't
believe?
You told her.
Can't decide how I feel aboutit, but I think that might just
be pheromones too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
So what am I supposed to do in that situation?

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Goodbye.
You're never going to overcomethat Give up Quit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Well, eventually I finally did.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
It didn't work out, did it yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
No, no, yeah, but like I thought that the just the
you know, I very rarely had iton multiple occasions be rank.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, look, sometimes you can't fix it.
I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Apparently not, but it may be one of those things
Like you're saying, like only mynose smells it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Yeah, I really do.
I think it's a pheromones thing, but that is fascinating.
Again, I'm not a vagina experton anybody but me, so why would
so?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
you don't give me any credit for being honest with
her and telling her.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I do.
But when it is something thatpersonal and that physical, I
personally just and have, I havejust tapped out and said,
because I know it's not going towork, if you have to tell
somebody to clean it, like to me, it is a reason to ghost

(01:23:50):
somebody.
If you have, if you suspectthat their hygiene routine is
off, it is a reason to ghostthem.
You know, like, yeah, mm-mm,mm-mm.
So I don't know.
I mean, I give you a littlecredit.
I can't believe there was anext time.
I can't believe, like ifsomeone told me that it would be

(01:24:11):
my last day on the planet, wewould be done.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
We were on FaceTime when I told her and I wish I
could have had a screenshot ofher face.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
You told her on FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
That her Gucci steak.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
That's crazy.
That's crazy, but you know,more power to you.
I think you're going to meetjust the perfect woman someday
and I think it's 100% not goingto be that girl.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
I know it's not going to be that girl.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
How do we get you a podcast set up?
Did you ever do anything withthe list that I sent you of
equipment?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I think that Santa Claus is going to be bringing me
one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yes, and it definitely has to do with the
list that you gave me, so I'mvery, very grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Best news I've heard all day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, I would love to have a podcast so that I can
just traumatize my guests.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
How would you?
How would you?
How are you going to format itwhen you do?
Because I know you're going toget it.
You're going to get it done.
What's it going to be like?

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Well it's going to be called.
I don't want to say what it'sgoing to be called, but I'm
going to start by interviewingmy family, especially my dad,
because he likes to cry.
He's a very emotionally upfrontman and so we're just going to,
and he's got a lot of crazystories from his life, so we're

(01:25:50):
just going to cry about somestuff together but also laugh
about some stuff together.
But yeah, I think I would justinterview people that I find
interesting.
Again, not a lot of movers likebig, you know, influential in
the classical sense of the wordpeople at first, but maybe we
could, we could get there, butit would be like a comedy

(01:26:11):
storytelling conversationalpodcast.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Do you like Whitney Cummings?

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, I love her.
She's pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
She is pregnant at 40 .

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Apparently it was accidental, but I heard her say
the other day that she wants tohave another one because she
doesn't want her child to be anonly child.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Well, good for her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
That's crazy.
She kind of play with firethere.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Uh, be an old.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yeah, I guess.
But you know, like strangerthings have happened.
She's 40.
That's not disgustingly old.
Like she's saved some eggspreviously, that could also be
helpful.
I don't know if she has frozenany, but I know that a lot of
like higher profile women liketo do that.
Um, I mean, that's not thecraziest thing I've ever heard.

(01:27:07):
My mom had twins at 37.
Um, accidentally, not accidentBrooks and Bessie, you're not
accidents.
Okay, you know what I mean?
I'm not accidents, butspontaneously, non medically,
had had twins at 37.
So I don't think it's like thecraziest thing in the world, but

(01:27:29):
, um, I wouldn't want to bepregnant at 40.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
No, I think it would be.
Uh.
Well, before I answer that, Iwould say it depends on what my
30s consisted of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
You know, if there were which for a man it's so
different, because you know ourline of thinking is well shit,
I'll just wait till I'm 45 andthen impregnate a 25 year old
and cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Yeah yeah, the biological clock is a real curse
.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Um, it is a real curse.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
I don't envy women in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah, you shouldn't.
Um, pregnancy is so crazy Like,and I had the easiest one and
I'm still like mm don't know ifI'd recommend it Um, and I rode
nine miles on a Peloton the dayI gave birth and I still am like
mm, like not much about my lifechanged and it was still just

(01:28:32):
wildly inconvenient.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Um, but yeah glad I did it Glad.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
I did it.
So you said you weren't, youdidn't want to have quote
unquote influential people on atfirst.
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Well, like, I'm not gunning to get like anybody
specific.
Really I'm very interested inmy family's story and I think at
first, like, I just kind ofwant to record my family members
so that I have that forposterity.
I think they're veryinteresting people.

(01:29:11):
Um, I'd love to have my memo onthe podcast because she's
hilarious and she's so cute andlike she's 83 and she's gorgeous
and she's just, she's so funnyand just such a light.
So I would just like to havethose things on hand just for
posterity.
But I think other people wouldenjoy the stories of my family
as well.
Um, just because I think theyhave a unique perspective and

(01:29:34):
like, everything I learned aboutstorytelling I kind of got from
my dad, and a lot of what Ilearned from comedy I got from
my mom.
So I would just like to havehave their stories on hand and
ask them questions that I'vealways wanted to ask them.
We did that with my grandfatherbefore he died.
We set up a video camera andwe're like tell us everything.

(01:29:55):
You had polio, what was thatlike?
And like I kind of want to dothat, you know.
Um, and I'd like to have myfriends.
Like I think my friends storiesare super fascinating.
Um.
So yeah, I'd like to do that atfirst and then sort of expand
that there are definitely somepeople in the area that I would
love to have on the show that Ithink are really interesting.

(01:30:18):
Um, I think other storytellersand writers and comedians, that
sort of thing For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
You can definitely tap into that, because you
obviously have met a lot ofpeople in your travels thus far
on the comedy tours or comedygoing to do shows and meeting
people at different clubs andstuff like that.
So I think that's, I think thatsounds like we should get it
sooner rather than later.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Let's hope so.
County line people, if you'relooking for a different flavor
of trauma, trauma D Come see me.
Come see me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
When will you be?
So you said you've got.
Your next show is when.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
December 2nd in Ocean Springs at the loft Um, and I
have some stuff after that, butI don't have it in front of me.
So yeah, and then everyThursday night at Sopro in
Hattiesburg we have an open mic.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah, I need to come back and try my hand again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Come tear it up, come tear it up.
We have an every evolvingcomedy scene.
Well it's a blessing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
It's a blessing that y'all have that going on.
I mean, it sounds likeHattiesburg's had a, an
assemblance, some semblance of acomedy scene for the past.
What decade.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Even more, yeah, yeah , since 2010.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Yeah, that's awesome.
So, have you found that it's alittle more difficult to work
out, so to speak?
I mean, I know you've got Soproevery week, so that's you know.
You can always depend on that.
But outside of that, have youhad any trouble, if at all,

(01:32:17):
finding other places to justperform?

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
No, not really.
Um, because there's so much inNew Orleans and the people in
that scene have just been reallykind and gracious to me.
So I know I have that, umlunchbox comedy that I'm part of
.
We do shows all the time andand I feel very welcome and
accepted there and those areshows like all throughout, kind
of Cajun country, um.

(01:32:43):
So no, I feel like I have agood sort of set of places that
I can perform, but as far asweekly like working out new
stuff, yeah, sopro is, is theplace and that audience is so
mean, they're so mean, and Ilove it because, um, that's
really where, like you can sortof do the baptism by fire and

(01:33:05):
like work out new material andsee if it's really, is it
novelty or is it quality, andlike I feel like that audience
will let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
So give you a pretty good indicator of what, what
direction you're headed.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Well, our live has ended, Mary Ryan, um, beautiful,
oh Lord, yeah, so this has beenabsolutely very entertaining.
I appreciate you taking an hourand 45 minutes to come on and
talk shit with me.
I appreciate it and let's do itagain.

(01:33:41):
Any time rather than later.
Let's not do five, five monthsin between next time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Okay, all right, that sounds good.
Yeah, so thank you foreverything.
Stay on Hinge, don't give up.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Thank you, Mary Ryan Bye for now and G'day, if you do
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