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Welcome to my 2nd season of The Crazybrave Songwriter Podcast where I’m going to have a chance to stretch out and talk about meaningful concerns for all musical artists.  

I LOVE the creative energy of my guest NICK NERY.  He is fun, dedicated to his music and delivers an eclectic style of music that is always evolving.  Nick’s music is a mixture of old school R&B, slick Rap phrasing and a blend of sexy bumps that entice the audience to pull in and listen.  His voice is smooth, vibrant and present over every track.

I am highlighting Nick’s song “Loving You” (Listen on Spotify)It's a silky R&B flavored tune that I can vibe too by putting on repeat while I work or dance around the kitchen.  Perfection!

In this episode, I'll be talking with NICK NERY about the beauty of using Vision Boards to imagine where your dreams might take you.  I'll tell my own story about how I was able to get a book deal by using my vision board to help make it happen.  Stay tuned to the end of the show to hear tips on how to use a vision board as a creative person. 

Visit Barnes and Noble to purchase Lisa's book "THE CRAZYBRAVE SONGWRITER"
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SIGNED COPY of Lisa's book from Lisa's website.  

The focus for this season is "wellness for creatives "  If you are a musician, singer, songwriter, painter or creative person, then I’ll be loading up this season with information on how to deal with our runaway brains, how to work with our ever changing moods and offer some coping strategies to deal with it all.  We’ll get a chance to hear from musical artists who speak about these things as they create new music. 

If some of you DON’T already know, I earned my Master’s degree in psychology, was a vocal and songwriting coach for over 20 years and have written a book about songwriting called "The Crazybrave Songwriter".  

So, Let’s move together this season and see what we can learn about ourselves. 


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Host: Lisa M Arreguin @ LivingCrazybrave.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Crazy Brave Songwriter
Podcast.
This is a podcast about themagic of making music one song
at a time.
My name is Lisa m I'm happy tobe your host for today.
Welcome to my second season ofthe Crazy Brave Songwriter
Podcast, where I'm going to havea chance to stretch out and talk

(00:22):
about super important andmeaningful concerns for all
artists.
The focus for the season iswellness for creatives.
If you are a musician, singer,songwriter, painter, or dancer,
then I'll be loading up theseason with information on how
to deal with our runaway brains,how to work with our
ever-changing moods, and offersome coping strategies to deal

(00:43):
with it all.
And we'll get a chance to hearfrom musical artists who speak
about these things as theycreate new music too.
If some of you don't alreadyknow, before I begin my career
as a songwriter and businessowner, I earned my master's
degree in psychology.
I was always interested in thecreative brain and why I think
the way I do.

(01:04):
So let's move forward togetherthis season and see what we can
learn about ourselves.
In this episode, I am having adown home conversation about the
importance of vision boards andabout how they work.
I get a chance to tell the storyof one vision board experience I
had personally that wasseriously life-changing.
Stay until the end of the showto hear five points you should

(01:27):
consider when making your owncreative vision board.
I love, love, love the creativeenergy of my guest, Nick Neri.
He is fun, dedicated to hismusic, and delivers a galactic
style of music that is alwaysevolving.
Nick's music is a mixture of oldschool r and b, slick rap,
freezing, and a blend of sexybumps that entice the audience

(01:50):
to pull in and listen.
His voice is smooth, vibrant,and present over every track.
I am highlighting Nick's songLoving You, A silk r and b
flavored tune that I can vibe toby putting on repeat while I
work or dance around thekitchen.
Perfection.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Check.
One, two, check one, two.
Testing, testing.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
We're not recording, by the way, are we?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
When did this tea get in here?
.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
It just materialized from the future world.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Wow.
Wow.
Well said.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Cheers.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Mu gra Cheers.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Mm-hmm.
.
Mm-hmm.
.
What's a, what's happening foryou right now in your music
world?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Painting?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Do you do oil or are you into acrylics?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I hate oils because I bought a 36 color variety set.
I used 10 because they take morethan days to dry.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, six months to cure it.
Person

Speaker 3 (02:57):
That doesn't, that turnaround doesn't work for me
because my founding is withindigital and graphic.
So it's kind of a wonder thatI've never had one of those
Google tablets.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Is your painting and music the same thing in your
head?
Are they different?
Two different things.
Do they relate?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah.
They, they relate because theyfeel the same.
, they feel the same.
It's the same sensation.
Like in my brain, they have thesame energy output.
The mediums have different pacesand beats overall in, in feel of
it is, is the same output.

(03:44):
But all you gotta do is thinkout of those templates.
And then you're practicing yourown style of art every single
time.
Like mm-hmm.
without everwasting paper, without ever
wasting paint.
But there is something about a58 by 72 piece that you did the
way you're looking at it andlike, wow.

(04:04):
I'm not gonna lie.
I, throughout the gimmicks,throughout the strategies, I've
been focusing on personalrelationships, uh, reconnecting
with old friends.
Samuel, he just called me oneday after he heard Loving You,

(04:26):
takes me out for dinner at thissalsa restaurant in North
Hollywood on Vine, and is justlike, Hey, what's up?
What are your plans for music?
How, Nick, you're such aninteresting case.
You, you sound, you have thevoice of a siren and I just

(04:48):
really wanted to help you, butyou pushed me away.
So that was four to six years.
That's four years ago.
And that's the music world thatI'm coming out of.
And then have been growing,cultivating my own ideas of what
music means to me for the pastthree years.
So now I'm at a place where Ifeel like I've drawn boundaries

(05:12):
and built the foundation.
And after this, it's just like Ihave every second of the day to
be unique and create a differentpossibility for myself while
maintaining a mind map and amovie reel about what I have.
So that's been like a, a moodboard.

(05:34):
And then I remember somebody ina chat room on Clubhouse was
like, okay, so what, how are yougonna get to to that?
And so now I'm like, okay, now Ihad, I've had a visual that I've
fleshed out from super simple.
And then now I'm just thinkingwhen I see this visual of the
network of cha decisions andchanges that I have to realize
that goal.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Tell me what's on your mood board.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's ranges from six months out to the, I think it
only ranges out to 10 years.
Some of the thoughts, becauseone of, one of the screenshots
is I, I photoshopped everything.
So like photoshopped my, um, iOSscreen for my banking and I just
made it like$104 billion.
And then I was like, okay.

(06:17):
And then I want to make, uh,this amount of streaming
royalties, I want this amount ofreal estate.
Um, and it goes down to I wantto be on sleeping on gems.
I want to be on daily fines.
I want to, and then I have mysongs Photoshop with the
streaming numbers that I wish tohave like on, on there.
And this is all backed by likemeditations of a weekly set

(06:40):
emails, uh, every Monday at 8:00AM So what is my mu music life
gonna look like in five years?
What is is gonna look like inthree years, two years, one
years, what?
Two weeks and one day?
And how am I keeping myselfaccountable to those goals?
So it has a bank statement.
It has the Spotify playlist, ithas my face over Amy Whitehouse
at Glassen, buried facing thecrowd, but mainly just the crowd

(07:01):
and the mic.
Right?
Cuz I don't wanna live anybodyelse's dream.
Me over Frank Ocean at the MTVMusic Awards when he did it the
first time.
Uh, me with like a crazyPhotoshop jacked body cuz that's
of specifically of the goal thatI want.
Um, and like me with a wife,

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Vision boards are fascinating because they work,

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What was it?
Detail?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I wanted to write a book.
Yeah.
And so I went to my favoritepublisher, hay House Publishing.
And they were having a contest,but you had to fly to New York,
you had to sit in their, intheir room.
And then you had to submit abook proposal mm-hmm.
.
And so I put on my vision boardthat I'm going to win first

(07:49):
prize at the Hay House contestcuz it's all expenses paid to
get your book made.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So I got my pennies together, flew to New York, sat
in a room of maybe three, 400people.
You could only apply if you werein that room.
So as I was writing the book, Ikept looking at first place
winner, first place winner.
And when it came down to it,, when it came down, I'm

(08:16):
missing some important elementsof the store.
But when it came down to it,right, right.
And I got the book proposal out.
Yes.
That it was important.
They called me on the day thatthey were announcing and they
said, congratulations, you areour sweepstakes winner.
And then she put me on hold andthen she went, oh, I'm so sorry.

(08:38):
She goes, I, she was soapologetic.
She said, you're actually ourfirst place winner.
In my head, I wanted thesweepstakes one, but I think on
a daily I was going, I need towin that first place prize.
I need to win that first placeprize.
So on my board was place, but inmy head I always thought I
should have put sweepstakes onthere, but I wasn't paying

(08:59):
attention close.
Mm-hmm.
.
And she was even confused.
The lady who called me

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Goes down to the specifics.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Down to the specifics.
Your vision board will work foryou if you're always in it.
But I won.
I won first place.
Yes.
.
Which was great.
I mean, I wasn't complainingabout anything.
I cried.
Yeah.
Because to get, to get to that,I had to jump lots of hoops that
were uncomfortable to get there.

(09:25):
Mm-hmm.
.
But I did.
And um, I was like, this reallyworks.
It really, it really works.
The power of your vision boardis awesome.
Thank you.
Um, just, um, be specific as youcan.
Mm-hmm.
, you know, I'veheard some amazing stories about
people cutting pictures of ahouse they want and then 10
years later they don't evenrealize that's the exact house

(09:47):
they bought.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
I love That's the one.
Don't you love

Speaker 1 (09:51):
That?
That's

Speaker 3 (09:51):
The one that gets me.
That

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Gets me.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's the house.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
The house thing.
the house thing.
House thing.
I'm like that too.
Do you have any thoughts aboutwhere songs come from?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, because they come from God.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Or my mind because the worst songs I've
made, I tried to make aboutsomething very specific.
Like there was a very specifictransaction I was trying to
process.
Cuz you can make a good song out.

(10:28):
Like with inspiration.
I'm not saying you can't dothat, but it's only through
inspiration.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
This is a bigger question about how do you know
what's good and what's not goodthat you're, that you're, that
you're putting out?
Or do you, do you even look atit like that?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Does the painting ever need to be done?
Does the song ever need to bedone?
You can keep and you know, yousee music and see how many times
somebody can re-releasesomething, but really, like,
until you're dead or croaked youdon't, it never has to be done.
You're the artist.
So plainly you can say it likethat.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Let's say you can't, you can't be a creative when
it's in you.
What happens to you?
What happens to a person?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
What happens to a person is mental implosion.
They're just never happy.
They never see the sun cuz thesun is your expression.
That's what I try to achievewith my music.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
So here's a question.
I heard another quote, um, byRochelle Farrell.
She said, people don'tunderstand that as an artist,
you take all your trash and allyour, your joy and all your
happiness and then you thinkabout all everybody else's trash
and all their stuff and you pileit all together and you put it
in a song and you have to makesense out of it.

(11:54):
.
And I go, that's pretty good.
I always think music is brokendown into lyric, melody, rhythm
and harmony.
That's the four pillars I thinkof it.
So you gotta have a song thathas melody, has to have lyric,
has to have rhythm, has to haveharmony, harmony just being
chords and layers, you know?
Mm-hmm.
, what comes to youfirst

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Beat comes first.
Cuz if you get real good, likeartificial intelligence with the
, with search query, and I'mlike, okay, I want bouncy, wavy
r and b, like specifically andsoul.
And then so bouncy, wavy, soul,r and b, somewhere 16 drops
along, there's a perfect beat.
Have that.
But, but that's what I was doing, uh, when I started making

(12:37):
music because I, I can't makebeats.
So the beat, but the beat has tocome first.
So I know that from being in thestudio with the producer when
the right beat comes on.
Okay, keep that one on.
Loving You.
The song, uh, in question isabout a girl that I went to.
Uh, the fashion institute withthat song is about the hallways

(12:58):
in the fiddle Orange Countybuilding.
This is like a really smallcampus, 500 square feet and just
always w looking forward torunning into her before class.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
What do you, um, advise for artists in this new
world?
Mm-hmm.
, um, of music?
What's your advice for them?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
My advice for artists is strategy.
Use your resources around youand don't impose on anyone.
You should be all right if youdo that.
I don't know if you're gonna bea big musician, but you're gonna

(13:38):
be whatever you put your mind to.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And now for your listening pleasure.
Nick Neri singing Loving You

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Was a piece of your time In the hallway in the back
of my mind.
See you days when cry.
Know you gotta push away, butfor now we'll be alright.

(14:45):
The flowers you to your forhours.
Come to me.
Why you work so fast?
Why you love so hard?
Why you saying me?

(15:08):
These are the, I just lovesomebody by of you.

(15:38):
Alright, thank you.
Why am I obsess with you so high?
Pass me by.
It's wonder, when will you come?

(16:05):
I'm home.
The flowers wait and lead you toyour van for hours.
Come and talk to me.
Why you work so fast?
Why you love so hard?
Why you saying me for leave mecovered.

(16:30):
These are the questions that youI love for do I just love my I
Ever Wanted was a piece of yourtime.
See you in the hallway in theback of my eyes.

(16:55):
See you on my off days when myceilings to cry.
No, you gotta push away.
But for now we'll be all.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
If you accept the invitation to bravely go where
few men have been before, it'stime to create a vision board
for yourself.
Here are five focus tips thatwill keep you on track.
First, make sure you clearlyconcisely, definitely and
distinctly know what you wantfor yourself.
I know that's a lot of lee words, but really put some thought

(17:29):
about what you specifically wantfor yourself.
And here's the key.
You must be excited about it.
Really super duper, extra tripleexcited about the thing that you
want.
Where do you feel the excitementin your body, your head, your
eyes, your gut.
Hone in on where you feel it andregister this feeling for future
use.

(17:50):
This excitement pushes a cosmicripple out into the pool of what
is possible and helps to keepthe ball rolling.
This is not woowoo stuff.
It is really an energy that canmove mountains and
scientifically plausible asquantum physics catches up with
what many of us already know tobe true.
Second, if you have multipleexcitements that you want to

(18:12):
have come true, narrow them downto no more than one for now.
Why?
Because the universe, God andthe angels like an uncomplicated
vision.
If you are mixed up, have a halfcooked up version full of doubt,
feel confused or unclear, theuniverse won't know how to best
help bring your dream to theforefront.

(18:33):
Confused minds beget confusion.
Clear minds makes for moreclarity.
Third, the most powerful of allthe things I did to see my
vision happen is that I was notattached to the outcome.
So how can I be excited andunattached at the same time?
Well, here's the trick.

(18:55):
I won the book deal because Iwas clear that if it didn't
happen, then life would be 100%okay for me.
I would still have a good lifestill, right?
Still do my thing.
So remain excited about thething that you want, but
remember, if you don't get thething that you asked for, that's
okay too.

(19:16):
I call this my love position.
I'm going to repeat myself herea little bit.
But this neutral position is apowerful one because it says
that although I want this thingin my life, I am once again a
hundred percent okay if itdoesn't happen.
This tells the universe thatdespite what's happening around
me, I can still do things tolove myself.

(19:37):
I can still breathe and I amfine as I am.
That I am valuable, as I amperfect, as I am wonderful as I
am.
That my life is a good one andthat I'm proud of what I've done
up to this point in my life.
The love position, do both ofthese at the same time and it
packs a powerful universalpunch.

(19:57):
Fourth, now make your visionboard.
It can look any way you want onyour computer like Nick does on
a corkboard like I did.
Or by using the traditionalmagazine cutout pasted on a big
gigantic board doesn't matter.
Remember to keep it simple,straightforward, concise, and
clear.

(20:18):
Fifth, it's not enough to makeyour vision board and put it
away in the closet.
Keep your vision board somewherewhere you can look at it every
day.
I like mine on the wall in myoffice.
So when I walk in or sit at mydesk, I can just for a moment,
remember my dream of excitementand flash a reminder to myself
that it's all gonna be okay.

(20:39):
This is Lisa again and I wannatake this moment to applaud the
team at Love and laughter musicgroup.com, A safe and
knowledgeable spot for musicianswho wish to learn more about
writing songs and recordinggreat music.
This episode is a product ofliving Crazy brave.com, another
hub where musicians cancultivate new awareness about

(20:59):
what it takes to honor thesacred art of making honest
music.
Let me leave you with this.
Darkness can only becounterbalanced by the light
becoming brighter in all of us.
Music creates light, so keep itgoing.
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