Australian Survivor - Brains Vs Brawn II Week 8 (w/ Rachel Echols) - The Cringe is Real

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This podcast was produced on the land of the
Wurundjeri people of the KulinNation.
Welcome to Australia.
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie.
This is kind of tragic.
Someone who is such aconnoisseur of reality
television.
The content is

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hideous.
So sorry about this.
Oh my God.

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Hi.
Hello.
How are you, Rachel?

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I'm good.
How are you?
I'm so

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good.
I

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like this new setup.

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Yeah, we're on the couch now.
It's

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really chill.
We're doing chill vibes.
I've got a huge glass ofwhiskey.
Yeah.
It's iced tea.

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It is iced tea.
It's Thai iced tea.
The white lotus.
Yes.
In celebration of the whitelotus season three, which just
finished.
What did you think?

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Look, I...
Maybe this, I don't think it'sthat controversial, but I really
liked it.
Yeah.
I thought it was great.
I just think that a lot ofpeople.

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Correct.

SPEAKER_00 (00:55):
Yeah.
I just think that people, Idon't know.
They, it just really went wild,like buck wild with theories
this season.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
But then people were like, it'sso slow.
It's so boring.
And I'm like, do you know theother seasons too are quite
slow, but also shorter to befair.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12):
Oh, were they shorter?

SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
Yeah.
Like season one was sixepisodes.
Season one and two.
or six and then seven episodesand this was eight episodes

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eight was perfect anymore if it was 10 i probably
would have agreed with thosepeople saying it was slow but
they wrapped it up perfectlyyeah i actually think it was one
of the better finales samebecause usually by the end you
kind of get the gist of what'shappening but this one i was
like oh okay

SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
yeah he really just was like Bloodbath, let's just
chuck it all out.
And I don't know, I just foundit, he did the things that you
weren't expecting him to do.
So even the theories andthoughts of, oh, there's always
an accidental death.
Monkey theory.
Technically, there was anaccidental death, but he just
came back to life, like JesusChrist.

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Adam called it with the blender.
Oh, I knew that too.
Oh, see, I didn't.
Ep 1 or whenever...
At the start, Adam was like, oh,that blender is featuring quite
heavily.
That's what I said.
It's going to kill someone.
And I was like, how?

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I think I only mentioned out loud.
I think maybe I mentioned it,but I was like, they just really
put a lot of visual on thatblender.
There's a bloody family in theblender.

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But I mean, it didn't actually.
It didn't.
But it kind of almost did.

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Well, it did.
I think he died.
He died.

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He saw...
Four monks.

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And then came back to life again.
But, you know, that was inthere.
And then it was just like, let'sgo left turn and kill everybody
in a way that seemed kind of offbrand.
But it was, I don't know.
I just thought it was wrappedup.
nicely and like right when youhad like those moments of yes
you know Belinda for example Iwas like girl get your bag you
did it get that fucking money soexcited and then the moment she

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said that to Paunchai and thenlike the saddest look as he was
waving but smiling I was like

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when she said my circumstances have changed I was
like bitch.
I love you.
I

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was like, you're just like them.
It was just like elation todevastation where I was like,
wow, money does change people.

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2025 is my circumstances have changed

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era.
And anything that Parker Poseysaid the whole season.
Yeah, great.
Just a queen, everything.
The face she gave when, becauseI actually loved like Piper's
wrap up too.

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Oh, see, I thought she was faking.
Well, yep, that.
But when she said, oh, actuallyI realized I'm a rich bitch and
that's me for life, baby.
I was like, she's faking.
That's what her mom wants tohear.
And then she's actually going torun off with the cult.
That's what I thought.
And then I was like, oh no, shejust, that was sincere.

SPEAKER_00 (03:50):
I was, I loved that because you were like, you just,
I don't believe you.
You're really giving that.
I'm the, I'm the one that wantsto, that understands the world
and understands culture in myfamily.
She's

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having her Ishka, like mystic phase, you know,
like she's, she wants to likewear her like elephant pants and
like do all that she's like avegan for like a week

SPEAKER_00 (04:09):
and like really is like i can do this for a year
because your rich family willpay for it like everyone else
it's

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such a like teenage i mean she's probably older than
that but i think she's like 20yeah she's drinking it's a young
girl thing that we all gothrough i went through that when
i was

SPEAKER_00 (04:25):
a young privileged girl especially like let's see
how the quote-unquote other halflives

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100 it's like you're experimenting and you're like oh
i've just realized that there'sthis alternative And I'm going
to run away from, especially ifyour parents are like religious.

SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
Yeah.
Religious.
And then just, you've never hadto.
worry about anything but I lovedthat arc for her because you
just knew that it was sosomething was not right and then
Parker Posey's face another memeworthy face of her just
understand like so excited andyou know I saw a great tweet
where somebody was like if Isend this photo of her face to
you it means that I'm right andI was like it's so good and

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she's like what about

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our three girlies

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love obsessed

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I'm so glad that I fucking loved their ending
because I thought they weregoing to be this like
exaggerated housewives inspiredcharacters and that was going to
end in tragedy and they werenever going to be friends again
and they were never going tospeak to each other again and
the way that it ended I was likeoh my god like it actually made

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me teary I was like these are mygirls

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and I just think that like that was easy to do
from episode one I was even likecan't wait to see these bitches
blow up like great and they didhave these like

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they had

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their moment they had their huge conflict and you
loved it but I loved the end itwas so realistic as a woman.
I was like, the way that he'swritten these, this very
complex, deep female friendshipof like friends that have been
that close since high school.
I was like, you've done a greatjob.
And yeah, again, was kind ofunexpected, but was like lovely.

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I just thought, and also like, Ilove Carrie Coon.
I mean, I loved all three ofthem, but I love Carrie Coon.
Me too.
And they all just played theirpart.
perfectly.
Carrie Coon's speech at thetable, her little monologue, I
was like,

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huh.
It was great.
I thought it was a great wrapup.
I'm excited for another season.

SPEAKER_00 (06:17):
Rick deserved to die.
Yeah.
Chelsea did not.
R.A.P.
Yeah, but also it was perfectthough.

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Unfortunately, she, yeah.

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The symbol of hope.
Messed

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around with the wrong guy.
His whole storyline, I've got tosay, is probably the one I was
least interested in.

SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
I think that I just think it was the most obvious,
right?
Totally.
It wasn't supposed to be asurprise.
I don't think that that was hisdad.
Everyone thought about it.
I don't think Mike White wastrying to make that a surprise.
We've all seen

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Star Wars.
I like the Sitala content.
She was stunning.
Oh, yeah.
She was fab.
And I loved the throwback video.
Oh, I love those.
And I loved Old Mate with theladyboys.
That was great.
Sam Rockwell.
That was...
That was like Emi Wen.

SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
Perfect.
Everything about that except...
And then another reason thatRick was...
fucking dog shit was just hisfriend saying i'm eight months
sober and then just going yeahlet's just have some whiskey are
you sure you're good i'm likemate

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cut to him in the hotel

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but you know him running in just his underwear
through like through thecommando

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rolling down the hallway i'm like we've been
there so good yeah i'm excitedand as one door closes another
opens handmaid's tale Do youfuck with Handmaid's Tale?

SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
I did fuck with it until, I don't know, I think the
last episode we watched was theend of whatever season.
Season five, the last one?

SPEAKER_02 (07:38):
Yeah, yeah, where they kill, oh, mate.
The commander?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that the end of the lastseason?
No, I think that was the end ofthe one before.

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Yeah, I think, and I didn't realise that, I knew it
would continue on, but then kindof missed it because there's so
much content.
A

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lot of people miss season five, and it was, like...
Yeah, incredible.

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Was it?
Okay, maybe I should go.
Pick it back up.
Also because I think my brainsaid, oh, I missed that.
But that was such a good endingwatching them all tear him to
shreds in the woods that I'mlike, that's fine.
That works for me.

SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
There's a really good, I shared it on the cringe
Instagram account.
There's a really good SBSpodcast called Eyes on Gilead.
It's all women talking about theshow, recapping it really well.
And they've done like a catchyou up episode.
It only goes for like, I don'tknow, half an hour, 45 minutes.
Oh, great.
They take you through all theseasons.

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Oh, that's really good.
So if you want to just jumpstraight into six, the one
that's on now, and it's thefinal one.
Yeah.
So that's exciting.

SPEAKER_00 (08:32):
I've been seeing ads for it and going, oh.

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Because it's too hard basket.
Because I think they had threeyears

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off even.

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Is that why?
I've forgotten everything.
Like Severance, they had twoyears off.
Oh, that was already longenough.
I'd already forgotteneverything.

SPEAKER_00 (08:43):
Yeah, we're re-watching season one.
Yeah, I had to.
Because there's no way I willremember.

SPEAKER_02 (08:47):
Yeah.
So this one I'm like, okay, it'sbeen a long time.
I shouldn't have left you.
But it's so good that we canjust catch up now with recaps.
Because I'm not watching itagain.
Especially not the trauma thatis this

SPEAKER_00 (09:02):
show.
No, see, I wouldn't watch it.
I would like a recap of the oneto four then.
And I would go back and watchseason five.
But I think, yeah, just in thattime frame, so many other things
came out.
So it just got lost.
And then I did see a trailer theother day and I was like, oh,
yeah, this looks dark and great.
And the guy, a guy that Iassumed would have been dead by
now.

SPEAKER_02 (09:23):
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (09:24):
the old guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bradley Whitford.
He, I love his character.
Me too.

SPEAKER_02 (09:30):
Cause he's like sinister and camp, but like, is
he good?
Is he bad?
Who knows?

SPEAKER_00 (09:35):
Yeah.
Love it.
Glad to hear he's still inthere.

SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
I think so.
Well, he was in the trailer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He died.
It was being like silly.
I watched the first episode ofseason six last night and I
won't spoil anything except thatI cried quite a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (09:50):
I cried a lot in that show in general, I think.
It's a lot.

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But good.

SPEAKER_00 (09:55):
Elizabeth Moss.

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And then at the very end, it's like directed by
Elizabeth Moss.
And

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I was like, yes, bitch.
Yes, queen.

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And she was on Watch What Happens Live

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this week.
Even for a Scientologist.

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Love it.
Yeah, I know.
That's the thing.
I

SPEAKER_00 (10:07):
always forget about that.
Yeah, me too.
Oh, girl.
Because her vibe is so not that.
It's just

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money and

SPEAKER_00 (10:12):
LA, right?
Yeah.
But she's a great actress and agreat director.

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Before we get into Australian Survivor this week,
boy, what a strange week to talkabout.
I do need to plug my live showbecause it is next

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week.
Oh my goodness.

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So grab your tikkies.
It's your last chance to comealong to my live show.
I've got Zelda Moon doing aperformance.
And I've got a lovelyconversation with Jean Litzer on
Drag Race.
Awesome.
Is Drag Race dead?
Come and find out.
And then Ash Flanders and I willbe recapping part three of

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Maths, which is now finished.
So we'll be closing a chapter onMaths and we'll also be doing
the last week of AustralianSurvivor, which is next week.
So if you want to know, if youcan't be bothered waiting for
the episode to drop and you wantto know our thoughts on next
week's Aussie Survivor,

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get a ticket and come along.
Tell me when.
Where?
What's

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happening?
It's Good Friday, April 18th atthe railway in North Fitzroy.

SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
Perfect.
Oh, the one on Park Street?

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Nicholson.
Yeah, near Park Street.
Oh, yeah,

SPEAKER_00 (11:24):
yeah.
Awesome.
Get your tickies, babes.
Get your

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tickies and we'll see you there.
All right.
Should we just– there's anelephant in the room.
And look, normally I don't dospeculation and tinfoil hats too
much on this pod, but Channel 10has forced my hand.

SPEAKER_00 (11:44):
The public have done what they've needed to do.
Like this is where I'm deep in aReddit to work things out.
Okay, good.
So we've

SPEAKER_02 (11:52):
read the same stuff.
And so if you don't know whatwe're talking about, obviously
Morgan left the show and...

SPEAKER_00 (12:01):
Well, technically was voted out.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (12:02):
technically was voted out, but...
After she got voted out, leftthe show.
She didn't want to remain on thejury.
And it begs the question, why?
And then we also had Mr.
Ben leave the show much earlierin the season after kind of
getting a bit of a sherry pie atit.
So we were already joking aboutlike, what did he do?

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And now it's like, oh, what didhe do?
And it's like, could they nothave just...

SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Addressed anything.
Addressed

SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
it.
And this is so Australiantelevision, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 (12:36):
It's a nightmare.
And I think that it is such a, Imean, Australian media in
general, but specifically,sorry, but Channel 10's like,
you know, attack to theirapproach rather to anything
remotely controversial.
Yeah.
The other side of it though is Ido wonder just on my little

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Reddit findings.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (13:01):
I think a large part of it is probably that, but
there is also a small part of methat wonders how much of it
potentially is coming fromMorgan herself.
It was filmed a long time ago.
She's not addressed anything.
True.
I just wonder if she also–

SPEAKER_02 (13:15):
Do you think she preferred it to be not made into
a big

SPEAKER_00 (13:18):
deal?
Potentially.
Yeah, true.
It just brings up a wholeconversation that any person of
colour has always had to hold.
And then

SPEAKER_02 (13:25):
she's got to fucking explain it to everyone and
educate everyone

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about what's not okay.
And be the one that, like, Ihave to post this.
And I don't think that that'snecessarily the full story, but
that could be a part of it, Ithink, where it's just like,
just don't show me a lot– I'llhave my own story to tell when I
want to tell it.
I don't want you to tell it forme.
I'm not happy with the way youmaybe dealt with things.
I

SPEAKER_02 (13:43):
hope she does get to tell it if she chooses to at
some point.
But also it just annoys mebecause I feel like that guy got
off like...
That's what I don't like.
Because he...
See, if he just left and we'dnever heard from him again, I'd
be like, sure.
But did you see his post?
No.
After he left, he posted beinglike, I was unwell.

SPEAKER_00 (14:05):
Oh, I think I just read this.

SPEAKER_02 (14:07):
Yeah.
Or someone did.
I don't know.
There was speculation out therethat he was unwell.
So I'm like.

SPEAKER_00 (14:11):
Oh, that he like tore a muscle.
He had a torn calf muscle orsomething maybe.
Which I'm like,

SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
but I've seen this show.
And when that happens, there's amedic.
There's a whole thing.
There's

SPEAKER_00 (14:22):
a go back to camp and say goodbye.
It's a whole emotional thingthat they try to pull.

SPEAKER_02 (14:26):
So I don't know.
I feel like they're kind ofprotecting him a bit.
Which I get.
There's some like crazy peopleout there that are going to
like, you know, come for him.
But I'm like.
Is that

SPEAKER_00 (14:36):
so bad?
Yeah.
To me, I'm just like, you, youwere the one that allegedly did
this behavior, had this, youknow, said these things.
Like I was more on the train ofthe racism.
I know there was a big thingabout sexual assault and I was
like, whoa, that seems.
Oh,

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I didn't quite get that far in my dig

SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
dive.
No, that was like the initialshortly, not shortly after,
well, shortly after he left, butwhen Morgan was still in the
game because people were like,They don't follow each other.
And then I was like, that seemslike a huge jump.
But the, yeah, I don't know.
I just think that the, theracism thing is like, he did it

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to himself.
Like if that is what happened,then I'm sorry, but why protect
it?
Like you, you said it.
I don't really care if you getup on sort of people.
Cause remember,

SPEAKER_02 (15:30):
remember rogue Ruben?

SPEAKER_00 (15:33):
Ruben.

SPEAKER_02 (15:33):
Rogue Ruben on whatever season that was.
It was with Nina, Sandra'sdaughter.
Oh, yeah.
And she said, I'm moreAfrican-American than you.
Exactly.
And they edited that into theshow, which I loved because it
just made this woman look sostupid because she was.
Nightmare, yeah.
And then poor Nina had to, like,she was so good about it.
She took it so well.

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She, like, listened to thisidiot and just, like, Shut her
mouth.
And then she's talked about thatlater on, like on her own
channels and stuff.
And it's hilarious.
She's just like, I wanted tofucking

SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
slap that bitch.
And everyone on social media,like Twitter and everything was
on her, like loved it.
And they were like, this iscrazy.
And to be fair, well, not to befair, but I did see the flip
side of that on social mediawhere people were like, Channel
10 shouldn't have aired that orthat shouldn't have made them.

SPEAKER_02 (16:20):
So maybe that's why after that experience, Channel
10 were like, let's just nottouch anything controversial.
This is a show about- you know,winning half a million dollars.
And I'm like, no, it's alsoabout social politics.
I think the social politics isinteresting.
Chuck it in there.
Also, it's like, why are we soafraid of having this
conversation?
Like, let's just fucking haveit.
But to do that, everyone has to,yeah, listen.

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Yes.
And we need to be transparent.
We can't have some of the infoand not

SPEAKER_00 (16:46):
all of it.
Exactly.
And it's already, and I get it'salready like an issue from
seasons past about the lack ofdiversity in Australian
survivors.
So...
It just– all those thingstogether make it even more icky.
But I just think, yeah, theprotection of him in any way and
also if it's for some kind of, Idon't know, defamation thing is

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what I sort of saw, is that hecould sue, yada, yada.
You're

SPEAKER_02 (17:12):
right.
They just don't want to touchany of it.
But it sucks because even rightnow, like, I feel so awkward
having this conversation becausewe don't know.
Yeah, 100%.
I don't want to, like, pointfinger at Tim and be like, you
fucking dealt with this.
Because I don't actually know.

SPEAKER_00 (17:24):
Yeah.
My thought is– if it'ssomething, regardless of what
went on, well, not regardless,but potentially between the two
of them, what Channel 10, likemaybe protecting themselves from
a defamation, like my brain islike, cool, I'm sure you have
enough money.
It's not, your station's notgoing to cease to exist if

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you're brought into a lawsuitfor defamation from this man.
So just wear the cost.
Totally.
But, you know, that is only ifthere's, you know, a...
a story there, a situationthat's happened, but either way,
I feel bad for Morgan.
Me too.
And we

SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
also, cause if you've been watching the jury
villa, it's my new favorite

SPEAKER_00 (18:05):
show.
I generally watch it all thetime, but I did go to watch hers
and then notice.
Well, that's the thing.
So

SPEAKER_02 (18:11):
she didn't have one.
I was like, no,

SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
cause I didn't have the exit thing.
Yeah.
She didn't even do that.

SPEAKER_02 (18:16):
So she'd like, literally must've been like,
nah, I'm done.
Yeah.
And you could kind of sense shewasn't having a good time.
Like even, When AJ was sort offucking with her last week and
she was like, whatever, dude, Ican tell you're not going to
work with me.
See ya.
I was like, oh, she's like kindof checked out a bit.

SPEAKER_00 (18:37):
She has.
But I also found thatinteresting that they sort of
put that in then because in mymind, if she was checked out
early, I don't know.
It was like.
It just made her look like bad,I think.
Because prior to that, shewasn't really in it very much.
And she's one of those like, whoare you?
What's your personality?

SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
They purpled her so hard.
And I mean, like...
She also wasn't a strongstrategic player, though.
She wasn't, like, interested indoing big moves and stuff.
Sure.
Let's be honest.
We don't think.
I don't know.
Well, yeah.
But, like, well, that'simagined.
There's, like, this other cutof, like, her puppeteering AJ
behind the scenes.

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Yeah, or her and Kate makingplans.
I think her and Kate were just,like, having a fun time.
And it's evident from Kate'sJury Villa.
She's just like, oh, like, thisis cute.

SPEAKER_00 (19:25):
Oh, okay.
I actually really want to watchKate's Jury Villa.
Yeah, Kate's Jury Villa's great.
She's a diva, obsessively.
She also

SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
opens up about her OCD and anxiety.

SPEAKER_00 (19:32):
Oh, I saw that on her Instagram.
So nice.
And I love that she slut droppedwhen she left.
That was, I mean, I know we'llget to that, but I was like, I
just like stood up, gave astanding ovation.
I was like, wow.
Do you know, because

SPEAKER_02 (19:46):
you're an F boy island girl.
Oh my God.
She is one half of the DJ dealwith that other girl.

SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
No, Ali was season two.

SPEAKER_02 (19:55):
Sophie?
Yeah, Sophie,

SPEAKER_00 (19:57):
the Kiwi.
Yes.
Love.
I realised this and I tried totell somebody and they were just
like, I don't know.
And I was like, this is reallydeep, dumb bitch shit that I

SPEAKER_02 (20:06):
know.

SPEAKER_00 (20:07):
And I was like, why does no one understand?
Yes, you've got me.

SPEAKER_02 (20:10):
It's like every hot blonde girl that DJs has to be.

SPEAKER_00 (20:14):
DJ, dancer, performer.
They

SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
need to be in like a duo.

SPEAKER_00 (20:17):
And I think she did pretty well.
Like even though she wasn't, youknow.
this crazy mastermind.
Like she kind of understood thestrategy of the game.
She also just didn't wanna leavecertain things like her.
BFF off anything, which sure,that's the way you want to play.
I think she was just like, ohno, I won't be doing anything
while Morgan's still here.

SPEAKER_02 (20:36):
True.
Except a gorgeous slut drop,which I loved as a, it's like
the Miss Vanjie of it all.
Like I've got my last minute ofcamera time and I'm gonna milk

SPEAKER_00 (20:46):
it.
And she's like, you know what?
No one has done on 10, I don'tknow, 10 seasons, whatever it
is, has done a slut drop as ifthis is a strip of art.
Do you

SPEAKER_02 (20:53):
reckon Miles was like, damn, I was going to do

SPEAKER_00 (20:55):
that?
The only other person that Ithink thought that would have
been Miles.
Like watching him pole dance ona tree.
Was it a tree?
Yeah.
Or the flag pole.
There's been a

SPEAKER_02 (21:05):
few poles in challenges and everyone's always
like, hey, Miles.

SPEAKER_00 (21:08):
Yeah.
Just waiting

SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
for you.

SPEAKER_00 (21:10):
Anyway.
But yeah, I feel bad for Morganeither way.
Yeah, me too.
Because I think she got a shittyedit.
She

SPEAKER_02 (21:15):
clearly had a shit time no matter what happened.
So we're sorry for that, Morgan.

SPEAKER_00 (21:19):
Exactly.
And I understand you just beinglike, keep me to the bare
minimum in this show because Idon't want to relive it.
But then to kind of in thoselast two episodes make it seem
like she was like...
And stop casting

SPEAKER_02 (21:30):
douchebag bogans, please.
Sure, if they're fun and notracist, great.
But if they're racist,

SPEAKER_00 (21:39):
just

SPEAKER_02 (21:39):
don't put

SPEAKER_00 (21:40):
them on.
It's not that hard.
Or just call it out and getthem...
Also, you can tell, becauseapparently, okay, this is
getting really deep.

SPEAKER_02 (21:46):
No, no, I think I know where you're going.

SPEAKER_00 (21:48):
About his followers?
Yes! Okay, I only just readthis, but apparently Ben follows
Trump, Pauline Hanson.
You have people, I know you havepeople that go to social media,
surely.
And in this climate, you can'tbe going, let's put a Trumpy on
there.
Fuck no.
Are you kidding?

SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
Maybe they thought it would be fun and
personalities will clash, butit's like, no, someone's just
going to feel...
legit victimized

SPEAKER_00 (22:11):
and shit.
And I feel like make thepersonalities clash because of,
you know, gameplay or age, eventhat kind of thing.
I feel like specifically thatlike quite right wing is like
not just making people clashbecause there is a very high
chance that that right wingperson is going to say some

(22:34):
fucked up shit.
With these tariffs.
With these tariffs.
They follow Trump and Paul.
Pauline Hanson, you have to belike, I'm sorry, this can't.

SPEAKER_02 (22:43):
I was in a meeting this morning at like 9am and
someone as light fodder.
Chat before the meeting waslike, so what about those
tariffs?
And I went, girl, not thetariffs at 9am.

SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
Not a meeting at 9am, firstly.
True.
No meetings at 9.30 as early as.
But it was

SPEAKER_02 (23:01):
like, you know, no, how's your night?
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (23:04):
it's going to be 27 today.
Lovely.
For

SPEAKER_02 (23:07):
the first time in my life, I would have preferred
that.
But hey, these tariffs, I waslike, fuck.

SPEAKER_00 (23:11):
I haven't even had a coffee.
I haven't had a

SPEAKER_02 (23:13):
coffee.
I'm staring at you on Zoom.
Anyway, let's get into Sundaynight's episode, which was
called House of Cards.
Because your house of cards isabout to topple.
That's all you've got.

SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
That's all you've got is a house of cards.
Your deck of cards.
Your deck of

SPEAKER_02 (23:27):
cards is about to topple.

SPEAKER_00 (23:29):
Queen Gina.

SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
So good.

SPEAKER_00 (23:31):
You're a celebrant.
I always think of that.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (23:33):
Miles says the postgraduates are rock solid.
But also, if it breaks...
Yeah.
It'll probably be me that breaksit.
I love Miles.

SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
Me too.
I've liked him pretty much fromthe start as well.
I think he got a bit of a bad...

SPEAKER_02 (23:48):
He's the only likeable game player because
AJ's playing the game, but AJ isnot likeable.

SPEAKER_00 (23:54):
He...
Don't get me started.
I mean, we'll get into AJ, I'msure.
But Miles is having fun.
His chaos is like not comingacross as malicious or anything
like that or mean or arrogant.
It's just weird.
He's just...
kooky dude and I love that

SPEAKER_02 (24:12):
exactly AJ and Zara chat and he's like AJ's paranoid
if he doesn't win the challengehe's out AJ?
I mean we're all thinking nothis was AJ I'm pretty sure oh
yeah sorry Kaelin sorry you'reright I was like AJ's not gonna
win the challenge AJ can't evenlike they get to the challenge

(24:32):
and AJ's just like alright

SPEAKER_00 (24:34):
I think maybe you said last week or something um
You just love his energy of notcaring.
And that is, I would say, Iwould care in challenges if I
was ever on it.
But I do love that he's justcommitted to the energy of like,
I won't be winning anychallenges in this

SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
game.
I think it's a move.
I think he's going to get to thefinal, if he does, and his whole
speech is going to be like, youguys didn't even know that every
challenge I threw, even theindividual ones, and they're all
going to be like, cool story.

SPEAKER_00 (25:00):
Okay.
Well, maybe you should.

SPEAKER_02 (25:03):
But no, you're right.
They're all gunning for Cailin.
Clearly, because this guy...
Fucking hell.

SPEAKER_00 (25:09):
So hot.
So

SPEAKER_02 (25:10):
hot.
That rig.

SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
Just everything.

SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
And the little, he's so cute.

SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
And I'm just, it's absolutely blinding my survivor,
like, experience because at theend of the day, he shouldn't,
like, if he loses, you shouldvote him out in a way.
But also I do see the strategyof, oh, I could beat him at the
end.
But my brain is like, I mean,you haven't been particularly...

SPEAKER_02 (25:40):
If it's a final two though, and it's him and AJ,
like if I'm on that jury, I'mvoting for puppy dog.

SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 (25:48):
Like he's got a chance.

SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
And he's like, his strategy hasn't been, okay, so
strong like AJ, but he has hadstrategy.
Like he could have and probablyshould have as he's showing.
His strategy was

SPEAKER_01 (25:59):
be a cutie.

SPEAKER_00 (26:00):
Be a cutie, middle ground, look a bit, seem to be
dumb and just helping everybodyout and like...
Then he just wins six individualimmunities.
Like, that's incredible.
I'm

SPEAKER_02 (26:09):
more impressed by that than AJ, like, messily,
like, calling the shots, eventhough he's, like, kind of not,
I don't

SPEAKER_00 (26:17):
know.
Yeah, yeah, fair.
But I get that being, like...
you could just vote him out assoon as he doesn't win.
But my brain's like, don't doit.
He's nice to look

SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
at.
Yeah.
Morgan and Miles chat, maybe wewant similar things.
Morgan asks about Caelan andwhat happens if he doesn't win
the next community.
So it's really just all eyes onCaelan and then we'll decide
what happens.
Miles also confirms this ideawith Zara.
How do you feel about Zara?
The PTA.

SPEAKER_00 (26:44):
I just...
Look, I'll say I'm obsessed withthe fact that she's not
president, but she's vicepresident of the PTA.
That is great.
I am obsessed with that.
It's a good detail.
Beyond that, I just...
I'm not...
I don't have strong thoughts.
My only thought right now is...
She does do what I think aresome dumb moves that are not

(27:05):
bold.

SPEAKER_02 (27:06):
She's got a good poker face.
Because I never know what'sgoing to happen.
Yeah, true.
Because people are always tryingto pull her one way or another.
And her face is always justlike...
That's true.
I'm like, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
That's the PTA.
And there's been two votes.
The two votes I feel like thisweek, I thought that she could
do something.
And then she didn't.
And I'm like, well, this isdumb.
So, I don't know.
Her vibe is that if I was there,I would...
take her to the end becauseshe's got people on the jury, I
guess, but I don't know.
She's just neither here northere for me.

SPEAKER_02 (27:39):
Fair.
I think so.
She's just kind of there.
She's there.
At the immunity challenge, it'sballs.
And if Kaelin wins this one,he's going to break a record.
And I love he's like, yeah,everyone.
So if you want me to break therecord, you better just

SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
chill.
Oh, you better just let me win.
My dumb bitch ass would be like,okay.

SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
Same.
Whatever you want, Kaelin.
And then he does it.
What a sexy little fish boy.
The

SPEAKER_00 (28:10):
last part of that challenge, pushing that up,
would have been actually sohard.
All of it.
The

SPEAKER_02 (28:15):
challenges have been real good this

SPEAKER_00 (28:17):
season.
Yeah, they've mixed it up andit's not been your standard.
Just this, this and this.

SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
And then they act all excited, but I'm like...
Then he says he's a challengeenthusiast.

SPEAKER_00 (28:32):
Oh, yeah.
Rather than a challenge beast.
And I was like...
Baby girl.
Baby girl.

SPEAKER_02 (28:39):
Back at camp, AJ suspects Miles wants to take
Morgan to the end.
So wants to take her out.
I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (28:51):
Which, sure.

SPEAKER_02 (28:52):
Because Miles is...
thinking a hundred like stepsahead.
Oh, absolutely.
A hundred different ideas aminute.
And it is, yeah, it would bekind of annoying to be around.

SPEAKER_00 (29:03):
It would, but also, I don't know how much he would
be, besides AJ, who also thinksthat way, how much he would be
talking all those little thingsto people.
You just know that it'shappening in his brain.
But also at this point, youshould be.
Like even Zara, to be fair, likeshe's been like, this is my path
to the end.
And I'm like, I mean, babe,you're not going to win.
Imagine she,

SPEAKER_02 (29:22):
anyway.
If Zara wins, I will actuallylove it.

SPEAKER_00 (29:26):
I don't know how I

SPEAKER_02 (29:28):
feel.
But also be like, editors, whatstory did you just tell?
I

SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
just, yeah, she's not getting that like winner's
edit, is she?
She's getting a potential finalthree though.

SPEAKER_02 (29:36):
I think it's Kaylin or Miles.
They're the only people gettingwinner edit.
If it's AJ, I'll be reallyshocked because they've not done
anything to make us like him.
In fact, they've activelytrolled him.

SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
Have they?
Or is that just his personality?

SPEAKER_02 (29:49):
Do you really think they've like tried to make us
like him?
They would have cut out allthat.
Awkward Kate stuff, I reckon.
I think they...
Exactly.
Exactly.
I think they put that in becausethey want us to be like, well,
this guy's a bit of a creep.

SPEAKER_00 (30:02):
I think maybe they...
I don't know.
I think you're right.
But they could also have beenlike, people might...
find this awkward and endearing.
Like, I didn't.
Because Kate's reaction waspretty chill.
Actually,

SPEAKER_02 (30:14):
you're right.
There are some AJ stans outthere.
Every now and then I'll have aguest on the pod and they're
like, AJ's great.
And I'm like...

SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
It couldn't be me.

SPEAKER_02 (30:21):
But,

SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
you know.

SPEAKER_02 (30:22):
He's

SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
got this, like, you know, level of...
If there's anything I hate morethan just a straight-up arrogant
kind of white man that...
A poker player?
Yeah, that's not...
fun about it that's not um kindof creating a character like i'm
like oh that's just youunfortunately

SPEAKER_02 (30:41):
Kaylin and Zara want Kate, but AJ still has a stiffy
for her.
So he wants Morgan out.
He does.
Like he acts like he's got thisstrategy.
He's like, oh, actually I wantto take out Morgan first.
I'm like, oh, how convenient.
Cause you think Kate's gotbeautiful

SPEAKER_00 (30:58):
eyes.
Yeah.
You're like, it's yeah.
And you try so hard to be like,exactly.
That's why he wants Kate out orwhatever.
And I'm like, well, I think hejust, everyone sees that
relationship.
Like Zara wasn't stupid then.

SPEAKER_02 (31:09):
Yeah.
AJ tells Kate this plan and shecries.
This was, I was like, she'slike, I can't do it.
I can't vote out Morgan.
I'm not going to do it.
It was beautiful television.
It

SPEAKER_00 (31:25):
was great.
But also that's where you werelike.
When she sort of said, oh, I'msurprised I got this far.
I was like, with that kind ofgame...
I mean, you have to have your...
I get you have to have yourstrong alliance, but, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (31:36):
And his full just, like, lack of empathy.
Like, he's like, chat GPT brainkicks in.
He's just like, oh, um...
Yep.
Okay.
It was like someone standingnext to a random crying being
like, I don't know what to

SPEAKER_00 (31:51):
do.
Didn't know what to do.
That was so uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 (31:53):
Yeah.
He's like, we'll do whateveryou're comfortable with.
But if you...
want to stay in the game you'regonna have

SPEAKER_00 (32:00):
to vote more but whatever makes you comfortable
bye yeah see ya

SPEAKER_02 (32:04):
it's gonna leave that there with

SPEAKER_00 (32:06):
you oh gosh

SPEAKER_02 (32:06):
imagine being in this game and like you're like a
Kate or a Morgan and just likepeople just kind of come up to
you and be like this is what youhave to do that would like

SPEAKER_00 (32:14):
you just

SPEAKER_02 (32:14):
I would hate

SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
that same and I just feel like no that's okay earlier
in the game yeah you know when

SPEAKER_02 (32:21):
there's a hundred people

SPEAKER_00 (32:22):
and there's great it's that's very that's why
Kaylin's strategy and otherpeople just like yeah yeah yeah
because you just you don't wantto be the one making plans you
know you want to kind of beinvolved but like not really
yeah because you don't want thattarget on your back but like to
be in what final six are theyfinal seven or six there's five
left now five now at this

SPEAKER_02 (32:41):
point there's six

SPEAKER_00 (32:42):
yeah so to be a final six and still having
people being like this is whatwe're doing this is what you're
doing you'd be like okay

SPEAKER_02 (32:48):
if you're a yes girl at this point yeah your chances
aren't looking

SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
good yeah or it is because they could take you all
the way to the

SPEAKER_02 (32:56):
end but then your cv is just like

SPEAKER_00 (32:58):
non-existent

SPEAKER_02 (33:01):
AJ tries to turn Kaylin against Miles, but he's
kind of like, this is, I do likethe boys all kind of imploding
on each other.
This is good.
This is like an interestingdynamic.
But it's so dodged.
I'm like, how does anyone listento this guy?
Also the double standard here iscrazy.
Like AJ's gone and done thatbehind Miles's back.

(33:23):
But then later on when he findsout, Not Miles is doing it
against him.
He like loses it.
I'm like, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
That's it's just, it's his, his ego is so, I, and
you can tell like, yeah, he'slike, I'm running everything,
everything, all roads lead backto me.
Like that to me is what makes melike, just truly not like him
because you just have no, youjust have such a big ego that
you think that that is true.
And therefore you, I just, theway he thinks that Miles is

(33:50):
like, well, you know, I could,Miles is the only person that
might be able to be, I'm like,Absolutely he would be.
I would vote for Miles over AJif I was on the jury.
Yeah.
Like the dude was on the bottomfor...
Fucking just so long.

SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
He served looks.
He served fashions.

SPEAKER_00 (34:08):
He's just been...

SPEAKER_02 (34:09):
He's been a fun time.

SPEAKER_00 (34:10):
Fun, chaos.
He didn't

SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
skis on anyone inappropriately.

SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I don't know.
I just think that AJ's doublestandards are just so
egocentric.
That

SPEAKER_02 (34:22):
line he says this week where he's like, I'm just
never getting votes and I'mnever going home.
I was like, oh...

SPEAKER_00 (34:28):
Yeah.
Excuse you.
Never getting votes on the juryeither.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (34:33):
totally.
Is that what you mean?
Oh, my God.
Miles tells Kate he's bummedKaylin won immunity again.
I'm like, yeah, we know.
And Kate's still like, I'm notvoting Morgan.
I can't do it.
She's my girl.
Can't do it.
So, the girls finally mobilizeor like kind of.

(34:54):
I was excited at this point.
I was like, they're going to doit.
I was like, they're doingsomething.
It's day 105 and they're like,let's do a plan.
They're like, there's two of us.
They kind of start to realizelike, oh, there's two of us.
Zara's there.
If we get her on.

SPEAKER_00 (35:09):
Get her to flip some shit.
They're like,

SPEAKER_02 (35:11):
let's get Miles out.
They think Zara won't, but thenthey're going to try Kaylin.
Because they've heard that hewants to make a big move for

SPEAKER_00 (35:21):
Resume.
And that he's really anxiousabout.
If he loses an immunity, whichhe should

SPEAKER_02 (35:28):
be.
Yeah.
Kate tells Cailin that Miles isafter him and that they have to
get rid of him now, which wasclever because that is a good
way to mobilize someone to joinyou.

SPEAKER_00 (35:38):
Especially Cailin, who was already like...

SPEAKER_02 (35:40):
And Cailin's got that old school Aussie survivor
thing of like loyalty.
He said, I can get to the endbeing a good guy, which was
like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
Yeah.
I don't like any...
Or people being like, oh, I just– it's integrity that I need and
things.
Yes, mateship.
Okay, it's also a game.
Like, you can be a fucking– Havefun.
Yeah.
Like, don't be an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 (36:00):
You're all going to giggle at Drew Villa afterwards.
Exactly.
Like, come on.
But, yeah, Kate tells Caelanthat Miles is after him.
So, it's kind of like game on,Miles.
Clever.
He does– buy it.
And I mean, it is true.
Yeah.
But AJ wants him out.
Like, they all want him out.
Yeah.
It's not specific to Miles.

(36:21):
Yeah.
But clever to package it in thatway to get

SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
him to flip.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
But, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (36:27):
Yeah.
At Tribal.
holey stuns in victoriabeckham's little gucci dress

SPEAKER_00 (36:35):
all of them entering like i just love the direction
that's like you must be sopissed off regardless of what
your feelings are i think

SPEAKER_02 (36:44):
it's them i don't think i think production like
what are you guys doing and they

SPEAKER_00 (36:47):
were like i feel like it's extra this season
though right yeah but likesometimes i

SPEAKER_02 (36:50):
think they came up with it like do you know what
it's giving it's giving likeschool camp And the girls are
like, let's come up with a danceroutine.

SPEAKER_00 (36:58):
Performing at the talent show.

SPEAKER_02 (37:00):
Yeah.
I've got some scrunchies.
Let's all do crazy hairdos.
crazy makeup

SPEAKER_00 (37:05):
and we'll do a dance.
And he can't smile because we'resexy or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 (37:09):
Yeah.
They're bored at Drew Villa justbeing like, let's come up with a
fun thing.

SPEAKER_00 (37:13):
And I feel like it's a very US Survivor thing to walk
in sort of straight faced,serious.
A bit slutty, a bit angry.
Whereas in the past, AustralianSurvivor has been really like,
because they come in andeveryone's always like, woo! So
they come in and they're likesmiling.
And so it seems really...
It's all Pauly.
Yeah, I feel like he went thereand was like, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 (37:34):
He's like, girls...
I'm

SPEAKER_00 (37:36):
pissed.
Stone faces.
I want looks of up and down andthen, you know, it's kind of
hard to.
This

SPEAKER_02 (37:40):
is why we need Sydney guys on every reality
show.
Yeah, true.
To bring the chaos.
To bring,

SPEAKER_00 (37:47):
yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
What were your thoughts when JLP said on day
105, and tonight's a little bitdifferent, I was like, girl, I
actually paused it and screamed.

UNKNOWN (37:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:59):
I

SPEAKER_00 (38:00):
thought it wasn't on a limb.
It's because it was so muchlonger of the episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, what's thisfucking nonsense happening now?
He's

SPEAKER_02 (38:08):
like, we're starting again with three tribes.
No.
But then straight away he knowsthat we're all screaming at home
and he goes, settle down.
Someone is going home.
And I was

SPEAKER_00 (38:18):
like, oh, thank God.
Yeah, I'm glad he did that too.

SPEAKER_02 (38:21):
Send people home.
Then he's like, but there'll beanother chance for...
Okay, so it's literally justanother immunity challenge.

SPEAKER_00 (38:30):
Which I was like, okay, that's fine in the end
because that could have shakensomething up, I guess.
But yeah, when he first saidthat.
And I had been thinking prior tothat that there hadn't been as
many of those little meddlingsthis season.
Yeah, they try

SPEAKER_02 (38:49):
and pull it back.

SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
I think because they see online that every other
tribal being like, this isdifferent, there's no vote.
There were still a few of them,but I think they pulled that
back.
So when they started to do that,I was like, oh no, this is why
they've been holding it back.
They're doing something fuckingdumb.

SPEAKER_02 (39:04):
It was fine.
It actually wasn't that muchdrama.
I almost thought it could havebeen more.
disruptive i don't know how butanother immunity great whatever
and with kaylin always winningit was actually a clever thing
to add yeah like let's givesomeone else

SPEAKER_00 (39:20):
a chance yeah and you know they were like let's
hopefully make it you knowprobably a kate or a morgan like
fuss making

SPEAKER_02 (39:27):
they even joked they're like maybe kaylin's
gonna win too next

SPEAKER_00 (39:30):
yeah

SPEAKER_02 (39:32):
but she wasn't eligible um So the five
vulnerable players thenparticipate in another challenge
and it's the deck of cards thatare about to topple.

SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
The deck of

SPEAKER_02 (39:41):
cards.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (39:43):
That looked hard as hell.
It did.

SPEAKER_02 (39:44):
It looked really annoying.
These ones where it's just likeyou have to be really patient
and like balance stuff.
I would try it once and then belike,

SPEAKER_00 (39:50):
all right.
Oh, I just find it.
That particular one.
it's the balancing of likebecause the how the cards itself
would be hard like the otherones where you're stacking a
tower that's not as hard that isjust like balance but this one
is like that's hard without theholding a thing and making sure
it doesn't fall over nonsenseexactly

SPEAKER_02 (40:12):
and djk takes it out diva diva so good aj stoked
because it's what he wants henow gets to keep He's a pretty
blue-eyed girl in the game.
Yeah, his little crush.
Exactly.
Then some intense whisperingbegins between Zara and Kate.

(40:33):
Kate is trying to get Zara toflip to Miles.
Loved this.
This is when Zara was givingfull poker face.
She's like, yep, cool.
She's

SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
like, I'm willing to do that.

SPEAKER_02 (40:43):
Yeah, exactly.
I love it.
I'm willing to do that.
It's like, that's not a yes.

SPEAKER_00 (40:48):
It's not a yes, but I would be there being like, oh,
that wasn't.
Yeah, you're right.
Her face is very like, I waslike, does she mean that or not?

SPEAKER_02 (40:55):
She was like, suits me.
And then how good was this edit?
They show us her vote and shejust writes down an

SPEAKER_00 (41:03):
M.

SPEAKER_02 (41:04):
The producers would have been like, how good?
You

SPEAKER_00 (41:07):
just know when there's something like that and
they have the same letter thatthe producers froth of being
able to be like, we can show thefirst letter until, unless it's
like cursive or something.
And a little curl, yeah.
Yeah, and they're like, was thatgoing to be an O or a Y?
Exactly.
So

SPEAKER_02 (41:22):
good.
And then the votes are read andit's two Miles and two Morgan.
But then more Morgans come inand she gone.
She's out.
And there's zero fanfare.
She literally just gets up and Vlines for the exit.

SPEAKER_00 (41:40):
She's on that next flight.
She's like, or maybe in anotherhotel, according to the Reddit,
but who knows?

SPEAKER_02 (41:46):
Oh yeah.
So she didn't want to stay.
At the villa with everyone.

SPEAKER_00 (41:50):
Yeah, but I don't know if they can just send you
straight home.
So maybe they were just like,okay, you can go to a hotel for
a few nights because they do abit of a health thing, I'm
guessing.
Yeah.
And then sent it, potentially,according to Reddit, allegedly.

SPEAKER_02 (42:01):
Not

SPEAKER_00 (42:02):
good.
No.

SPEAKER_02 (42:03):
But, I mean, it's all alleged, but I'm inclined to
believe it because we've beengiven nothing else

SPEAKER_00 (42:09):
to go on.
And something's gone on.
There'd be nothing, surely, in acontract that's like, oh, I just
didn't like the game.
Can you just edit me out?
Like there has to be a catalyst,I think, as to why.
I

SPEAKER_02 (42:22):
hope the fans are being nice to her because I can
imagine if you literally did notknow anything and you only were
just looking at the show,nothing else, you'd be like, oh,
what a diva.
Like I would think that.
Yeah, true.
I'd be like, what a bad sport.
She's upset she didn't win orwhatever.
And she didn't put anything onInstagram.
She's kicked the bucket, yeah.
And she's just left.

(42:43):
I don't know.
I think she just didn't have agood experience because I know–
I saw a few weeks ago KingGeorge tweeted saying– friend of
the book, King George– sayingher and Kate were boring
players, which I think– and, youknow, George is trying to be a
little bit incendiary, a littlebit, like, exciting.

(43:03):
Like, it's clickbait.
We get it, George.
But she snapped back.
She was like, nah, I'm notletting this guy– Oh, good on
her.
She tweeted back at him being,or instead of whatever, back at
him being like, you have no ideawhat I went through.
And that was when I was like,oh, shit went down.
Okay, yeah, it's something,right.

SPEAKER_00 (43:22):
And also, you know, I get the...
And he's not to know.

SPEAKER_02 (43:24):
Like, we don't know.
So, it's like...

SPEAKER_00 (43:26):
True.

SPEAKER_02 (43:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:28):
It's just, yeah, I don't know.
Wait, did he do that before sheleft?
Yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (43:31):
yeah.
Like a few weeks ago.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
It was when they were just kindof there being, sitting ducks.
And I had the same opinion.
I was like, she's

SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
boring.
And look, that's no differentto, you know, what I would put
on Blue Sky.
But I just thought maybe thathappened after she left.
And I was like, okay, well,that's a bit much, George.
But yeah, I'm always just like,what is this person doing in
terms of their gameplay?
He's

SPEAKER_02 (43:50):
always just trying to stir

SPEAKER_00 (43:51):
shit.
But she's like pregnant.
Oh, is she?
Stunning.
Because I did obviously go onher, but she hadn't posted since
like late march and she's notposted a single thing about
survivor so

SPEAKER_02 (44:02):
and look fair i think it's one of those things
that yeah unfortunately didn'twork out

SPEAKER_00 (44:07):
and she had a bad experience but at least she's
hopefully home and just livingher best yeah pregnant with
twins we wish you well yeahtwins believe it's twins yeah
wow two that's a lot One'senough.
One's great.
Love one.
Love one.
Love one.

(44:27):
Love one.
But yeah, that I was like, letme go watch the Jury Villa.
Let me find out a little bitmore about potential.
I think at that stage I was alsojust like, I want to find out
about her gameplay a little bitmore, like because we didn't
find anything or like if I go tothe Jury Villa and it's just her
being like, oh yeah, you know, Iwould have been like, okay, that
was just, so when all thathappened, that's when it really
stirred it up.
But I feel...

(44:49):
Bad for her, but really gladthat, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 (44:51):
I like she didn't give them anything.
She's like, nah.
Because

SPEAKER_00 (44:54):
it's like, I

SPEAKER_02 (44:54):
would do the same.
It's like, I'm not going to justcontinue to do

SPEAKER_00 (44:58):
this.
Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (45:01):
Episode 22 on Monday night.
I've got to say, I'm loving justtwo a week.
Can we just do that?
Oh, thank God.
Two is great.

SPEAKER_00 (45:09):
It's so stressful early in the season when it's
three.

SPEAKER_02 (45:12):
It's so much,

SPEAKER_00 (45:14):
TV.
Especially when, like, WhiteLotus started.
Because then I couldn't watchthe Tuesday night because I'd
watched the White Lotus onMonday.
And then, so then I'd be behindtwo episodes because I'd have to
watch, like, Monday nights.
It was just too much.
Too, too much.
And, yeah, I'm glad.
Two is fabulous.
Two is great, actually, because.

SPEAKER_02 (45:30):
One would leave us wanting more.

SPEAKER_00 (45:31):
Yeah, and there's 500 episodes.
We'd be going for the wholeyear.
It's

SPEAKER_02 (45:37):
called Polarising the Outcome and it's the final
five.
So that means it's the last timean idol can be played.
which is kind of the theme ofthe episode.
So Zara is thinking about herbest path, as is Miles.

SPEAKER_00 (45:53):
She says.

SPEAKER_02 (45:55):
Yeah, she's doing a lot of thinking.

SPEAKER_00 (45:57):
Doing a lot of thinking of her best path and
then ignoring it, but go off,

SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
go off, queen.
Exactly.
And Miles pitches AJ should benext.
And she was like, oh, I'mactually quite shocked at that.
And at this point, I'm like,well, there's only, you only
have four choices.
Literally.
Someone to get rid of.
So I don't think any pitch isshocking at this point.
You should all be thinking abouttaking out everyone else

SPEAKER_00 (46:19):
except yourself.
Literally.
And if somebody else suggestssomeone who's a big threat...
Even better.

SPEAKER_02 (46:25):
You're

SPEAKER_00 (46:25):
probably thinking about it.
Yeah.
So just go, that sounds great.
And then you can just kind of beon the periphery of it.

SPEAKER_02 (46:31):
I've got to say like gameplay wise, first half of
this game was so exciting.
And then it just, yeah, I'mstill loving all the characters
and everything, but strategywise, it has been a bit meh.

SPEAKER_00 (46:44):
I think it's because there have been so many
opportunities for something toflip the game a little bit.
And it just hasn't progressedbecause the person's maybe
chickened out or been like...
And the jury was stacked with

SPEAKER_02 (46:56):
all of the fun

SPEAKER_00 (46:58):
people.
Oh, like Karin?

SPEAKER_02 (46:59):
Karin's on the jury.
Logan.
Logan.
Yeah.
Like literally.

SPEAKER_00 (47:03):
Although I was getting a bit over Laura at the
end.
Sure.
Yeah.
Just to do with the, when wewere talking about like the
loyalty and the integrity orwhatever.
Not that she was saying that,but it was just very much like,
she was just starting to get abit sourpuss when she was like,
this person didn't want to votethe way I did.
I was like, okay.
She fucked it for herself.
Which sucks.
Cause at the start I was like,love you queen.
And then.
Oh, hang

SPEAKER_02 (47:23):
on.

SPEAKER_00 (47:23):
She

SPEAKER_02 (47:23):
wrote Logan.
No,

SPEAKER_00 (47:24):
Laura.

SPEAKER_02 (47:25):
Oh, no, Laura.
The witch.
Yeah, the witch.
Yeah, good.
No, because Logan also did thewhole why is no one doing what I
want thing, which I loved.

SPEAKER_00 (47:32):
It was a bit different from her, though.
Yeah.
I don't know.
She was like that kind of fromthe start and she was really
like– was actually– doing otherpeople's plans and trying
things.
Whereas Laura just was like, ifanyone in Alliance, like I think
Zara or people that would justwould say, oh, you know, I don't
want to do that.
She was like, well, that justpisses me off and ruins my game.
And I'm like, well, they're alsotrying to play a game, dude.

(47:52):
But they

SPEAKER_02 (47:53):
were all the people I wanted to last.

SPEAKER_00 (47:55):
They'll be great on the jury.
They will be great on the jury.
But like Karin and Logan, as Iwas always on the fence about
Logan, but just found her superentertaining.
Karin is everything.

SPEAKER_02 (48:05):
Love Karin.
She's so funny.
I

SPEAKER_00 (48:07):
reckon she'll

SPEAKER_02 (48:08):
be.
She'll be invited.
Yeah, she will be.
She'll be invited back.
With those confessionals andthat side eye, honey.

SPEAKER_00 (48:13):
And just great strategy, pretty good physical.
Like, she was quite anall-rounder.
Oh, she's a beast.
She's so, oh, yeah.
And, like, I think that Logan, Iwas, yeah, never, didn't, wasn't
necessarily a fan.
I didn't dislike her.
But I just, I found herpersonality so entertaining.
Yes.
And she is also somebody theywould put.
On to another season, I think,because she just had such a...

(48:34):
She's got, like, Shawnee

SPEAKER_02 (48:35):
vibes.

SPEAKER_00 (48:36):
Oh, and I love...
Silly girly.
Silly

SPEAKER_02 (48:38):
girly, yeah.
But that's who I was expectingand wanted on the actual, like,
game.
Yeah, yeah.
I wanted Miles there.
Miles is the one that I havebeen so excited about for so
long.
I'm so glad he's still there.
And I'm obviously rooting forhim to win now.
But,

SPEAKER_00 (48:53):
yeah, a couple more of those other players, yeah,
would have also been great.
I agree.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (48:59):
It's a funny one.
And I'm very much lookingforward to next week finding out
who it is.
But back to, gosh, where werewe?
Miles pitching again to Kaelin.
Oh no, now he's saying if AJdoesn't win immunity, we should
send AJ home.
So this is the bit, this is thebig stab in the back moment that
I'm like, again, it's not reallystabbing in the back when

(49:21):
there's five people left.

SPEAKER_00 (49:23):
Like, come on.
It would happen to you if youdon't do it first.
Exactly.
And

SPEAKER_02 (49:28):
you've also suggested the same thing for
some time.
Miles has been like, On thebottom forever.
Yeah.
So, I kind of think it's a bitrich to be pissed off, but

SPEAKER_00 (49:40):
whatever.
Also, I just think that...
I don't know.
I feel...
And maybe this is because I'venot been on it, but if you were
voted out because of that kindof backstabbing nature...
Yeah.
A, literally take it like thecompliment that it is.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, I couldn't beat you.
But B, like...
I don't know.

(50:00):
I, as a jury member might belike, I respect that game.
Like, obviously I'm pissed offthat you did it, but you know
what?
If you didn't do it to me, Iwould have done it to you and
well done.
You did it first.

SPEAKER_02 (50:10):
But he's even, cause this is also.
AJ tells us about a hundredtimes in this episode that
Cailin is his ride or die.
Like we get it.
And he's not even into the ideaof taking out Cailin.
Cause he, I think he thinks thatin his, in the end, he's going
to be there next to Cailin.
Who's never going to win.
Cause he didn't do strategy.

(50:30):
I don't know, dude.
I think he would get votes.
I think you'd get votes.
I think you'd want to be next toKate and Zara.

SPEAKER_00 (50:38):
He definitely should be taking Zara.
Any of them.

SPEAKER_02 (50:41):
The jury really likes Kate and they might just.

SPEAKER_00 (50:43):
I actually thought that, Kate would have maybe she
wouldn't have won but if shewell I don't know her

SPEAKER_02 (50:48):
jury villa entrance they go wild they love her

SPEAKER_00 (50:51):
I just and I also think the last remaining brawn
she was another example of beingon the like say she got to the
final yeah she would have onlybeen there from the bottom the
whole time which is just youplay hardest when you needed to,
which I would have been like,you get my vote for that.
But AJ, you know, the plan totake out AJ, because AJ also
constantly says this episode,you know, oh, Miles is not going

(51:13):
to turn on me.
Not once.
No, he's not going to turn onme.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (51:15):
which I'm like, that's dumb.
He's thinking about everypossible move except that.
So don't rule anything out.
He's also worried that Miles isgoing to do some idol trickery,
which is going to do something.
He's like, Miles is going to dosome silly move with his idol.
And this was, am I correct?
thinking that miles didn't oh nomiles told aj about this idol no

(51:37):
only aj knows only aj but likeeveryone it's a bad kept secret
everyone knows everyone's justlike i'm they're like miles yeah
because he's always so

SPEAKER_00 (51:44):
sneaky the jungle rat and also why would you not
have tried to flush it butanyway that's another story for
another true

SPEAKER_02 (51:51):
true true because if you don't know if they

SPEAKER_00 (51:54):
don't know but also this proves my point of like
they really don't know how someof them, how intensely
strategic.
He just seems like a chaosplayer.
This

SPEAKER_02 (52:03):
is where AJ's on his condescending bullshit again.
He's like, I'm never gettingvotes.
I'm never going home.
And he also says, I think Mileshas played a much smaller
version of my game, which Idon't agree

SPEAKER_00 (52:17):
with, honey.
I don't agree at

SPEAKER_02 (52:18):
all.
I was like, what are you talkingabout?

SPEAKER_00 (52:21):
And I think that if you think that, arrogance aside,
it's because Miles has done alot more than you even know.
So seeing those two at a finaltribal with AJ, obviously
probably going to have a goodspeech because he's very good at
Working his

SPEAKER_02 (52:40):
ass off.

SPEAKER_00 (52:41):
But I think that he absolutely is underestimating
the way Miles would actuallydestroy him in a final tribal
council.

SPEAKER_02 (52:48):
And then, this is the irony, like, Kaelin and AJ
are now discussing putting voteson Miles as an insurance policy.
And I'm like, okay, so that'sfine.
That's fair game.
But, like, God forbid your namebe

SPEAKER_01 (53:00):
mentioned.
I'm like, okay, honey.
So dumb.

SPEAKER_02 (53:04):
Right or die, right or die.
I forgot about that.
Immunity Challenge, it's morebalancing things.
I'm like, okay, we're really ina place of balance this

SPEAKER_00 (53:11):
week.
This is when they walk throughthe squares?
Yeah, for blocks.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (53:15):
And it wasn't like five blocks or six blocks.
It was like 12.
It was like 12 blocks.
And it was like...
Very tall.
And you had this kind of likefucked hook.

SPEAKER_00 (53:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (53:26):
It looked tedious.

SPEAKER_00 (53:28):
Just the way that you had to bend it.
And then also not even just thelike squares that you walked
through.
My little finger hands.
I'm

SPEAKER_02 (53:34):
surprised it wasn't another IKEA tie-in.
Because it looked like a littleAllen key.

SPEAKER_00 (53:38):
Yeah, like using, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (53:40):
Using the flubbenblaggen.

SPEAKER_00 (53:41):
That, yeah, the unhooking that.
And then also the like...
the pole that you had to duckunder was just another level of,
there was just so many elementsof that, that yeah, it would
have been really trying.
I also kind of wish they wouldput at the bottom, at the end of
the challenge, like it justdidn't, this is my curiosity,
like how long it actually took.

SPEAKER_02 (53:59):
I would like that.

SPEAKER_00 (54:00):
If it just like, I know you're going to give me a
fucking three minute cut.
That's fine.
But just be like duration ofchallenge, like two and a half
hours.

SPEAKER_02 (54:06):
I think they all are pretty long.
They must be.
That one.
These ones are so tediousbecause it's like someone's
going to win and then, oh, it'sall toppled and I can start
again.
It's like, oh.

SPEAKER_00 (54:16):
And yeah, it would take so long.
Really annoying

SPEAKER_02 (54:18):
to recap because I'm just like, not that I've spent
any time on the challenges,let's be honest, but this one I
was like, I kept writing downlike, Morgan's in the lead and I
was like, delete that.
Zara's in the lead, delete that.
But AJ again, no chance.
Sucks at this as well.

SPEAKER_00 (54:35):
No surprise.
No surprises there.

SPEAKER_02 (54:39):
And then finally it is between Zara and Miles, but
Miles cooks it on the 12thblock, which is like,

SPEAKER_00 (54:45):
oh.
The way he was so, like,obviously pissed off.
Yeah.
The way I would have just walkedinto the, like, on the 12th
block.
Are you kidding me?
I would have gone up to JLP and

SPEAKER_02 (54:58):
just slapped him in the face.

SPEAKER_00 (55:00):
I just would have walked straight past him and
been like...

SPEAKER_02 (55:02):
don't goodbye

SPEAKER_00 (55:04):
into the forest into the jungle like honestly the the
12th like if it happens earlierokay sure that last block last

SPEAKER_02 (55:12):
block i wouldn't do it again i would not do it again
i wouldn't even pretend

SPEAKER_00 (55:15):
i would literally just go sit down i'd be like
there's no i'm not yeah i won'tbe doing i won't be
participating yeah give me somewater medic please like ah yeah

SPEAKER_02 (55:24):
sprained i would fake an injury

SPEAKER_00 (55:26):
yeah give me some eyes my gay wrist yeah

SPEAKER_02 (55:29):
limp um and they'd be like it Seems like it's
always like that.
I don't know what you're talkingabout.

SPEAKER_00 (55:35):
How

SPEAKER_01 (55:35):
dare you.
How

SPEAKER_02 (55:36):
dare you.
Back at camp.
Zara and Miles discuss plans toblindside AJ.
And I was getting so hard forthat.

SPEAKER_00 (55:45):
I was like, do it! Do it! So excited.
And the way it was happening,the editing, like, this is
really the producers, well doneto you for blindsiding me.
But it was very like, thencutting back to AJ and AJ being
like, oh, Miles is not going togo for me.
He's not going to go for me.
And then cutting back to thisplan, I was like, this is
giving...
Like it's going to happen.

SPEAKER_02 (56:05):
I thought it was going to happen.
They really teased us with that.
Kaelin sets a rat trap becausehe's certain that Miles is
coming to snatch his wig.
So he is going to play...
Oh, what's he doing?
He thinks the idol is going toget played.
So, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:24):
Yeah, the insurance policy is Miles versus the Kate
thing, which honestly, smartplan if that was the case.
Like, well done you, Kaelin,being like, no...
That way, either way, somebodywe want goes home and it's not
me if he plays the idol in somefunny way.

SPEAKER_02 (56:39):
Kate tells AJ she's voting for Miles.
AJ's like, great, well then he'sgoing to go.
Because they think he's going toplay it.
But it's the final five.
There's five people left.
Why would anyone play

SPEAKER_00 (56:55):
it for another

SPEAKER_02 (56:56):
person?
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (56:57):
I get it.
This was a few votes earlierbecause Miles has been really
good and he can play it forother people.
But there's just simply no wayat that point, even if it was
somebody that you knew, likethey were all going on your one
person, I would still be like, Iwill be playing this for me
because I don't

SPEAKER_02 (57:14):
know.
But I think they thought...
Because he loves...
the showmanship of it all, thathe was going to do something
that looked really complex, butI still don't think

SPEAKER_00 (57:24):
anyone's that dumb.
And that it would have been agood, you know, oh, that's
another little thing for hisresume, like what he did, I
guess.
But again, he's smarter thanthat because he was, he could
have done anything like that.
But

SPEAKER_02 (57:37):
you're not going to risk it.
Like he's done some risky stuffto this point, but like now's
not the time for that.

SPEAKER_00 (57:43):
Yeah.
It's one week before the finale.
And if he was really unsureabout the AJ thing, then he
could have done it on Kate tohelp his trying to blindside.
But he's like, yeah, he's

SPEAKER_02 (57:54):
smart.
And then Zara figures out thatwith everyone voting for someone
else, her vote could be thedecider.
She can bloody well pick who'sgoing home.
It could have been.
I mean, it was.
AJ sits miles down and he's sopatronising.
He's like, look, I know you'reyou.
When he said, I know you're you,I'm like, fuck

SPEAKER_00 (58:15):
off.
Yeah.
The arrogance is unmatched.
I can't.
He just thinks, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (58:20):
He goes, can you please just play her out for you
so it's simple?
Like, if someone asked me to dothat, I'd almost want to not do

SPEAKER_00 (58:26):
it.
Especially if AJ asked me to dothat.
But that's what

SPEAKER_02 (58:28):
he was trying to do, right?
Or something.
Like, was it a bit of reversepsychology or something?
Like, you just do that for me soI know what you're doing.
I don't know.
And then Miles gets emotional.
And this is when I was like, weneed to edit.
Cause it was like, we haven'treally seen this sort of shade
from Miles before.
So it was like, cause he'salways being silly.
And then it was like, he gotemotional.

(58:50):
Cause he's like, I don't want tohave to backstab someone, but
also.
I

SPEAKER_00 (58:53):
have to, to win.
Yeah.
And yeah.
And that I understand that sure.
In this particular point of thegame, that would be pretty
difficult.
You know, we saw that in termsof like Kate and Morgan, but
yeah.
I don't know.
I just...
You just have to be like, okay,well, it'll be all...
Like, it'll be worth it when Ihave...

(59:14):
half a mil in the bank

SPEAKER_02 (59:16):
so yeah I just don't know if I've seen a genuine
friendship between Miles and AJI know they're like working
together I agree it feels gameyit doesn't feel like it's not
like Kate Morgan or like I don'tknow yeah

SPEAKER_00 (59:28):
Paulie

SPEAKER_02 (59:28):
and Nunes like where you're like these are like
iconic duos and they're gonna befriends outside yeah well it
looks like from socials thatthey are or something but I
don't know

SPEAKER_00 (59:39):
but I know what you mean they haven't really had
that bonding or they at leastthey haven't showed that level
of bonding So I

SPEAKER_02 (59:45):
was shocked when Miles got emotional, but I think
it's bigger than just that.
I think he's just like, wow,this was my dream.
I'm here.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think he underestimated thesocial side

SPEAKER_00 (59:55):
of it.
And he's doing so well.
I know.

SPEAKER_02 (59:59):
But then he's like taking out AJ's possibly 500k.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:04):
Absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:05):
At Tribal.
This is the bit when JLP has toawkwardly address that Morgan is
no longer with us because she,quote, decided to go home.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:17):
Okay, and then it's just...
So, bloody...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which I guess, how else can youdo it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're not allowed to sayanything, but...

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:27):
Yeah.
They must get briefed offcamera, right, so they don't...
audibly gasp and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:33):
Yeah.
Cause they didn't really.
They would have

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:35):
been told like, we're going to say that.
Don't you dare.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:38):
Yeah.
Which also gives, you know, theimpression that it was a, a
situation that quite a fewpeople knew about.
Yeah.
Versus it just being somebodythat decided to go home.
Cause then they might've justbeen like, Oh, well, you know,
they could have lied and beenlike, you know, she had to get
back to her family or something.
Yeah.

UNKNOWN (01:00:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:56):
JLP asks about resumes and pathways.
It's all, it's sounding likesome sort of career counsellor.
Yeah.
Now it's just a pathway.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:04):
Or just one of those, what are they called?
Those companies that like, therecruiters.
Recruitment.
Yeah.
It's like a

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:12):
recruitment

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:12):
office.
What are the sort of pathwaysyou're looking at?

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:16):
Can I interest you in this pathway?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:18):
We'll need to see your

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:19):
resume.
Let's see what's on the resume.
That pathway is not going towork for you.
Yeah.
Totally that.

UNKNOWN (01:01:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:25):
That'll be next season.
I'm like, as a recruiter, I'vegot the perfect skills in resume
building.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:33):
Yeah, that'll be in somebody's speech.
Like, just call me a recruiter.
What was

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:37):
Ferris, who worked in HR?
Oh, he did too.
I remember every now and thenhe'd be like, this is a HR
conversation.
And I was like, actually true,because you're really good at
just like bullshitting people.
Literally, which is what

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:49):
HR does.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:52):
oh, Miles says the numbers are about to get
awkward.
And I was like, yes, there'sfive of you left.
But particularly with the fourthat have voted together, the
so-called postgrads.
He

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:03):
had a good poker face in this travel as well.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:06):
He did a great job because you could tell he's so
tempted to be like,

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:09):
oh, I'm going to do a big move, JLP.
I'm going to do

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:11):
it.
But he's just like, no.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:13):
After this, the numbers will be awkward.
I'm like, well done.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:16):
He's like, this vote's really straightforward.
But next week, yeah.
But no, no.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:22):
Oh, fuck, next week's going to be good because
AJ's on one.
Oh, it's going to be so good.
We see them all vote.
Fuck, I want Miles to win.
Anyway, next.
We see them all vote exceptZara's so-called deciding vote
because, yeah, so Miles votesAJ, which throws that off.
Kaelin votes for Miles.
AJ votes for Kate.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:44):
Kate votes for Kaelin.
No,

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:47):
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:47):
Yeah, because it's one vote each, right?
Yeah.
It's like 1-1-1-1.
It's 1-1-1-1, yeah.
Which is wild.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:52):
It's like a square.
Final

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:54):
five?
That is insane.
So crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:58):
Yeah, weird.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:59):
Then Miles, but it says a lot about This season.
Yeah.
And just kind of how thestrategy has been going.
True.
Miles plays the idol forhimself.
I was like, good girl.
Clever girl.
And sadly, with a slut drop onthe torch first, DJ Kate.
It was worth it for the slutdrop.
And it's like, Zara, really?
Are you so whole bent on justdoing the predictable thing?

(01:03:22):
I, like,

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:22):
really hate her.
I was actually really pissedoff.
I was like, that's a dumb move.
Like, I just– like, I don'tthink you have a great chance of
winning anyway.
Why would you want AJ around?
Voting AJ off would have been alittle something more to make
your resume a bit better.
A little.

(01:03:42):
Like, she's– and also justputting yourself in a situation–
I mean, I think in anysituation, like putting yourself
in a situation where you are nowthree males to one female, like
at the very least going in, youcould have been two, two.
Yeah, Kate's your like...

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:59):
I just can't believe they all forgot about the Kaylin
thing.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:02):
Like

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:03):
what?
Outrageous.
And I think that even if Kate isyour biggest competitor for
endurance, sure.
Because we all

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:09):
know that's going to be the last one,

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:11):
right?
It always is.
But even like leading up tothat, I guess you've got...
kate who literally has no oneand nothing you would expect her
to throw you a bone if you savedher and brought her to the fight
because you have to be like wehave to be a girl's first guys
thing now number one and alsonumber two like even if she
could beat you i don't know ijust feel like you probably yeah

(01:04:34):
have still votes on the jury notanymore but i don't know

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:38):
and then how awkward aj turns to miles because hang
on who did you go miles was likeYeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:43):
You.
With a smile.
You.
Yeah, you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:46):
And I was just like, what?
Why?
So awkward.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:50):
It was so awkward.
But also Miles was like a littlechaotic face being like, wasn't
that fun?
Because also you would just belike, you just know his heart
would have sank because you'djust be like, you've ruined your
own game.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:05):
And then JLP clearly is like, next week's going to be
awkward.
And I'm like, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:10):
And Kaylin's like, ooh, a little snake or
something.
This

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:14):
is the double standard.
It's like, ooh, what a rat.
From the start, they've beenlike, what a little rat.
What a little backstabber.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
He's playing the game as you allare.
You're just like excluding him.
It just feels really not right.
nice

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:30):
no it's it there's two things that i hate with it
one is that it's you've been indifferent situations to miles
miles has been on the bottom andhas to has been on this tribe in
this tribe and really had nobodyso that is his only way of
playing and surviving i just

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:45):
think it's the game is fair and you just have to be
like fair game like gettingshitty yeah that really it's
just you just have to roll withit

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:52):
because what what do you want the game for and then
the other one

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:55):
owes you shit

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:55):
yeah the other thing that i hated with it from the
very start in jet like now he iknow he refers to himself as the
jungle rat yeah which is greatbut at the start i hated it yeah
because it's that whole yeahit's the whole like i think it
was great a few seasons ago whenbenjamin law was on it and he
talked about it because theyimmediately were like he's a

(01:06:16):
snake and you were like why whatand he made like this whole he
wrote an article yeah they'relike that's just a stereotype
that people are like asian menand women have like yes just
enjoy it and i felt very thesaying with them being like, I
just don't...
Little

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:31):
sneaky rat.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:32):
Yeah, and they would just be like, I just don't like
him.
Okay, why?
And

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:35):
Pauly as well.
They were like...
I also didn't get that.
They were like, what a snake allit says.
And they're like, literally theonly like, you know, gay person
out here.
And you're all just going to belike, he's really like...
sassy and shady and conniving.
It's like, okay.
You can't pretend these thingsdon't play into it because they
fucking do.
I'm watching it at home and I'mlike, this is insane.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:57):
The Paulie thing was also wild because I couldn't
recall yeah like and i stillcan't now and i've watched the
whole season but every episodei'd be like wait why did why is
he a snake like what they nevershowed it and it was never like
some huge thing that he didwhere he's playing the fucking
game it's a

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:14):
snake the game is snake

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:15):
exactly and i was just like okay you're just
really pinning and he was justit's always on the bottom and
they treated him so badly inthose points and i was just like
it's like

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:24):
white heteronormative culture being
pervasive and being like we'rethe mainstream if you go against
that there's somethinguntrustworthy yeah it's
literally that playing out onour screens

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:36):
literally that's what i saw this season aj is
doing something yeah you can belike oh aj just loves to change
the plans last minute

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:43):
he's entitled to do whatever he wants and when he
does it he sees it and expectseveryone to see it as genius
play correct

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:51):
it's fucking infuriating people around him

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:54):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:54):
just go oh he's just and they're He's just being a
bit fun and chaotic.
And he's never getting votes andhe's never going home.
Yeah, he's never been calledsnake or rat or anything like
that because he's just a whiteman that is doing the same
thing.
It pisses me off.
And so I'm glad for Miles in thesense that he seems to have
reclaimed his status, but insaying the name of Jungle Rat,

(01:08:18):
so to speak, but in saying that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:19):
He has been a good sport with that.
And he's made merch and stuff,which I'm like, great.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:23):
Yeah, fucking monetize that, bro.
Are you kidding?
Totally.
Have your moment.
Just own it and I hope you ownit to the end because that to me
was just, you know, he doesn'thave, he doesn't owe anybody
anything.
We're getting

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:39):
there.
Like it's still way better thanlike it was seasons ago where
this vibe was really aggressive.
I feel like it's now it's there,but it's covert.
I feel like it's just kind of,yeah a lot

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:52):
of see it felt like that as well also way back in
like i hated kent hated kent ohyeah and that was like a thing
he just straight up was like i'mgoing for that guy i don't like
him he's sneaky and i don't yeahhe's like i just don't like him
okay why

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:08):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:09):
at least be like that he's annoying or like say
that but he'll just be like ijust don't like him i just don't
trust him i'm like okay wellthat's just a stereotype that
you're just showing right nowyeah I mean, let's not talk
about that insufferable

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:21):
vlog.
That guy got voted out rightaway.
And Miles

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:25):
is likely going to win.
King Miles, I've liked you fromthe start.
I loved...
I mean, it was an old episode,but I will say that I did love
the...
How good he was at soccer.
How counted out he was.
How he said, I would love to dothis.
The golden foot,

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:39):
baby.
The music they put on

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:42):
him.
Yeah, this kind of entertaining

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:45):
music.
But now I'm like...
All of that is telling me thatMiles is going to win.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:50):
I would also be very happy with a Cailin win.
But I tell you what, if AJfucking wins

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:57):
this season, we riot.
We riot at midnight.
Don't.
I would just be like, what hasthe last three months been for?
Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:05):
Oh.
Four

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:07):
months?
I just feel like I've been like,I could have just not...
I'm going

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:10):
to need you to check in if that happens because I'm
not going to be

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:13):
okay.
I just will be like, cool.
So that's 29 years of my lifethat I can't get back because AJ
won.
God.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:22):
I do need to give a special honourable mention slash
shout out to the doctor at DrewVilla.
So when they finish, they gostraight to this doctor.
Oh, yeah.
And on Kate's episode, he'slike, oh...
Kate, I didn't expect to see youhere.
And I'm like, okay, calm down,fan girl.
Like, are you watching the show?

(01:10:43):
Like, it hasn't aired yet.
Are you just like, is the Doctorjust like there while they're
filming?

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:49):
And just watching the dailies?
He's

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:51):
like, ooh.
He's like getting involved withthe strat.
I'm like, put the Doctor on nextseason.
Or

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:59):
do like a Gogglebox thing.
I'm going to go home and watchall the...
You'll

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:02):
love it.
He's like, oh, Kate.
He's like all upset that hisfave has been kicked out.
I'm like...
Maybe

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:08):
it's because of what he hears from everyone else
coming to Jury Villa and he'slike, Kate's my pick to win or
something.
Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:15):
And of course he's all, and she's all like, oh my
God, I'm hot.
She's like, I'm like tanned andskinny.
And I was like, get it.
The real reason

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:22):
she went out there.
Yeah, absolutely.
She was like, so fun.
My hair's longer.
I want to get a tape on.
Yeah.
A tape

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:30):
on.
Oh God.
Well, we did it.
We did it.
Thank you so much, Rachel.
One week left.
I mean, obviously we're all,Aggressively team Miles.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:40):
Yeah.
Nothing, few that I wouldn'thate, but I wouldn't love if I'm
honest.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:45):
Honestly, the gaggery of Zara winning would
also be quite fun.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:50):
I don't know if I'd go as far as fun, but you know.
Maybe she can become thepresident.
As well, because I love, yeah,maybe that's all it takes.
I think as well, I did love likeKaylin actually being good at
puzzles.
Like that was such a gag memoment of like, yeah.
Can you not tell them I'm goodat puzzles?

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:07):
That was one of the best moments of the season.
Absolutely.
Hey, don't tell them.
Don't tell them I'm

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:12):
good at puzzles.
Don't tell them

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:13):
that I'm

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:13):
good.
And also, JLP agreeing.
I was like, slay.
King, like, you know, JeffProbst could never.
Jeff Probst is

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:20):
so serious.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:21):
Oh, my God.
So serious.
Like, JLP was like...
Kalen's still working on thatpuzzle and just, you know,
showing all these things.
Oh my God,

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:28):
Jeff Pope's made, I need to say, so I'm begrudgingly
watching season 48, which is soshit.
Is it?
I'm watching it because I'vewatched every season and I'm not
stopping now and we're coming upto 50, so I'm like, we're doing
it.
But he made the, I have thistheory that, because Jeff hates
JLP, right?
Because, of course, but I havethis theory that Other people at

(01:12:51):
CBS are watching AustralianSurvivor to try and get the
secret formula.
Fair.
And they're like trying to getJeff to be a bit more funny with
the chat.
And he made this joke in achallenge.
Because you know how JLP isalways, you know, with the
innuendo.
And it's so good.
But it's cheeky.
Release that nut sack.

(01:13:11):
Yeah.
He tried to do that with a balljoke.
And it was...
I'm not joking.
Like...
I like...
My body froze.
I want to sink into the couch.
I haven't even heard it.
He was like, what did he say?
It was like two of those ballsin that sack or something.

(01:13:31):
Just like in real life.
And I was like, sorry, mister.
It was something like that.
And it was so...
It was like grandpa trying tomake a funny joke, but it didn't
land.
But the conviction was like nothumorous.
I...
died.
Just off.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:49):
TV off.
I was like, I don't think I cando it.
Guess we'll find out whathappens next week.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:54):
Because I've got it on in the background.
It's like, I'll be like foldinglaundry

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:58):
or some shit.
I follow the tweets or blue skyon it to be honest, but I don't
watch it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:02):
There's actually some good, they cast it really
well.
I really like the cast, just forsome reason it doesn't work as a
show for me.
There's too many little thingsgoing on

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:10):
and I don't care.
And I do see some bits andpieces on TikTok, which is
helpful.
Like I saw a little bit of the,um, the girl with autism yeah
and like the the friendship withthat guy yeah that daddy and you
know just very so i think seethings like that but i think
that Yeah, I can see why they'dbe really interested in Oz
Survivor because even thebiggest Survivor fans online are

(01:14:32):
like...
Are living for it.
...over here.
They're like, this is what I'mwatching for.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14:36):
But

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:37):
that...

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:37):
Give it up, Jeff.
Anyway.
But, you know, we've got season50 and we've got...
That'll be great.
Australia Vs.
The World.
Australia

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:44):
Vs.
The World is probably moreexciting than 50, let's be

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:47):
honest.
A thousand percent.
I'm so excited for Australia Vs.
The World.
It's giving Drag Race, you know,UK Vs.
The World.
Especially with

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:53):
like Pav and Dave.
David.
It's going to be so fun.
Shawnee, King George.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:01):
I love Shawnee so much.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:03):
Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:04):
Yay.
Well, I'll see you soon.
See you soon.
Bye-bye.

UNKNOWN (01:15:09):
Bye.

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